Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Good morning, good morning, good morning, Cecily, good morning,
Speaker 1: good morning. I'm here.
Speaker 2: I'm a boss bitch, I am a bus but you guys,
Speaker 2: how it's.
Speaker 1: Our job to do this, and we did.
Speaker 2: I got the date wrong on when Beverly Hills Housewives
Speaker 2: were returning.
Speaker 1: I know, I.
Speaker 2: Got it mixed up with Southern Charm is what happened.
Speaker 2: So Southern Charms coming back early December, and in my
Speaker 2: mind that was Beverly Hills, which is so crazy. And
Speaker 2: then I saw it online and someone posted a photo
Speaker 2: of Durte smoking in the car, which I don't even
Speaker 2: remember seeing and with just like current mood, and I
Speaker 2: was like, wait, what's this? And then I found and
Speaker 2: then I texted Stephanie. I was like, you better watch
Speaker 2: right now because we've got to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, wait, but we're still watching
Speaker 1: Orange County. I don't I'm not used to them overlapping
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 2: They do it sometimes, and I'm glad for it. Do
Speaker 2: you have any macro notes, because I do, but let's
Speaker 2: hear from you. Oh Macro Now.
Speaker 1: I feel putting on the spot. Okay, yeah, macro note.
Speaker 1: I feel that this is not going to be my
Speaker 1: season because already, well I told you this off the air,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like I'm going to have the
Speaker 1: least popular takes and I feel like people are going
Speaker 1: to get mad, and then I'm already feeling defensive of
Speaker 1: like my opinions. It's just my opinion. Goodbye Kyle. I
Speaker 1: like I'm on Kyle's side. I know, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: I'm also can't I'm seeing what everybody used to see
Speaker 1: about Dread. I'm seeing the she's so tone deaf. I
Speaker 1: was I'm so mad at Dury from this episode. Interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, I first of all, I want to say,
Speaker 2: and we have it's a collective hug. Everybody pricks gather
Speaker 2: around Stephanie because she feels she reads a lot of Reddit,
Speaker 2: and she feels like, oh, she has the wrong take
Speaker 2: on the OC because based on what other people, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes she and I see it differently. But I'm saying
Speaker 2: Reddit is not the world. There's a few people that
Speaker 2: are posting on Redd. That doesn't mean that's what everybody thinks.
Speaker 2: I had a different take on Kyle. I was not
Speaker 2: liking her this episode. We'll get into that. We are
Speaker 2: full on get into you are your macro notes. One
Speaker 2: macro note is that I'm in.
Speaker 1: Love with bows.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, I mean in like, okay, let me just
Speaker 2: give an even bigger macro note. And before anyone's like, oh,
Speaker 2: is she in like some crazy good mood?
Speaker 1: Did she have a lot of coffee? No coffee? Terrible mood? Honestly?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And I say that.
Speaker 2: But yet I loved I watched it this morning and
Speaker 2: I loved this episode, Like, I'm so happy they're back,
Speaker 2: especially coming out of OC, which is just like, not
Speaker 2: what we're here for. This is the ship we're here for,
Speaker 2: this is what we signed up for, and I think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great season.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, because and I ask you this
Speaker 1: knowing that we're almost done, we will be done this
Speaker 1: week with the season of OC, why are you upset
Speaker 1: with OC?
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's a single person there I'd
Speaker 2: want to be at a party with, except for Gina.
Speaker 1: As we know, I don't need to.
Speaker 2: I mean, you, guys, I love my Gina, but I'd
Speaker 2: like to remove Gina and put her in a better place.
Speaker 2: She does not belong in Orange County. We all know
Speaker 2: that she knows that she can do better than Travis
Speaker 2: and look, Travis, if he wants to come with her, great,
Speaker 2: but like now's a good time to just pick up.
Speaker 2: She should go back to Jersey, she should be in
Speaker 2: New York. She just doesn't like let's move in to Bachloe.
Speaker 1: What's she going to do there? Because I think she
Speaker 1: truly wants to be very famous and she's scared.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not checking me about. Let's get her on
Speaker 2: a reboot of New York. Let's get that girl. Let's
Speaker 2: get her a better life, because she's the only person
Speaker 2: that I would want to spend time with, and that's
Speaker 2: in that cast. Not that I want to spend time
Speaker 2: with a lot of people in the Beverly Hills cast,
Speaker 2: but they're what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to
Speaker 2: be the fabulous, amazing, holy shit. I know that's not
Speaker 2: how the show started, but that's what it became, and
Speaker 2: I that's what I watch for. I want to see
Speaker 2: all that shit. I love it and I love like
Speaker 2: these women are for real. There's no bullshit like they
Speaker 2: are for real.
Speaker 1: These women on this on Beverly Hills are for real.
Speaker 2: They are for real in their money, in their money,
Speaker 2: like in watching their crazy outfits and their crazy homes,
Speaker 2: like they're.
Speaker 1: Not like, doesn't make it, doesn't bug you that Erica
Speaker 1: Jane is like still like insistently bugs me. Oh it
Speaker 1: does bug me. Although I will give another positive macronot
Speaker 1: to Erica. She looks so beautiful without her makeup.
Speaker 2: There was a point where she was caught like without
Speaker 2: a lot of makeup when she was getting her glam
Speaker 2: and I was like, that woman is gorgeous. Why does
Speaker 2: she cover that up? But yes, it still bugs me.
Speaker 2: That's still But we're going to get into that. It's
Speaker 2: a story like that. Weirdly, they're not really covering yet.
Speaker 2: I mean they they mentioned it, they mentioned it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into it. I mean I love it.
Speaker 1: That's it, sure, Sure, I love it. Okay. So, so
Speaker 1: they're showing we're catching us up.
Speaker 2: Kyle's working out real hard, she's really working at she's
Speaker 2: so healthy Stuffane.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. She's just so healthy.
Speaker 1: She's just always kick, she's just amazing. Look they show
Speaker 1: all these views of Beverly Hills. This is just they
Speaker 1: open up with, like, look at Beverly Hills. None of
Speaker 1: these women live in Beverly Hills. They always a good poet.
Speaker 2: They're in the valley. Yeah, a lot of them are
Speaker 2: in the valley. I think Garcella's maybe. I don't think
Speaker 2: she's in the valley. I feel like she was in
Speaker 2: like Baldwin Heights or something, Yeah, which is not Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills at all. Definitely not yod Beverly Hills adjacent like
Speaker 2: Sudden W're Sutton. Sutton is probably in Beverly Hills. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but she moved. Yeah, Eric is aid cam Pasadena.
Speaker 1: Right, She's probably in the valley. I think she's on
Speaker 1: the Honestly, for a minute, I thought she was on
Speaker 1: the east side. Thought she moved to like Los Felis
Speaker 1: or something. Your point in Beverly Hills though, right, none
Speaker 1: of this is like Beverly Hills. Actual Beverly Hills people
Speaker 1: are not really the people that would be on a
Speaker 1: show like this.
Speaker 2: Is that is one hundred percent most of them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a billion percent. They should change it to Los Angeles
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: That would make more sense. But that's that's a good point.
Speaker 1: It's a good point.
Speaker 2: So Garcel's oh as hard as Kyle's working out. Garcel's
Speaker 2: just actressing. She just wants to know she is actressing
Speaker 2: and she is a producer.
Speaker 1: Bitch. She's dressing so hard. It's like crazy, how hard
Speaker 1: she's actressing. She is killing it. And she did you know,
Speaker 1: she never thought she would be actressing this hard at
Speaker 1: this age.
Speaker 2: At this age, she didn't she knew she'd be actress.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you remember this, because she's
Speaker 2: never mentioned how she was on the Jamie foxx Show
Speaker 2: actressing back then actressing the fuck out of the Jamie
Speaker 2: fox Show and now actressing so hard in Atlanta producing
Speaker 2: Garcelle Productions. Like she's just killing it.
Speaker 1: Boss. Oh god, yes, such a boss. Bitch. Sudden is
Speaker 1: still very rich, very drunk.
Speaker 2: I nothing has changed there, yeah now, but then your
Speaker 2: favorite thing probably happened because all of a sudden, she's
Speaker 2: on her way somewhere. It's probably nine thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: and where is she off to Jennifer Chili.
Speaker 1: Child, chriss snacks and juice. She's juice.
Speaker 2: Why are you calling a juice when you're opening and
Speaker 2: saying that you have a seventy five year old bottle
Speaker 2: of vodka, which doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let me get you your juicey stucid juice. Wait, quirky,
Speaker 1: I have a tattoo. Cookie, I have a tattoo. Do
Speaker 1: you want to see it?
Speaker 2: I have a tattoo, Sudden, you want to see my
Speaker 2: juicy tattoo?
Speaker 1: First? God, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna say, I'm like, they're just
Speaker 2: at some point, Sudden's like, oh, this is my real buddy. No,
Speaker 2: you're drinking buddies nine thirty in the morning and you're drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a weird because Sutton. I think Sutton
Speaker 1: is like fairly out of her mind. That's me. But now,
Speaker 1: but Jennifer Tilly is like maybe worse, Like I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: I don't get that she's on the show. I mean
Speaker 2: you have to love that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like she's not doing anything though, she's just sort of
Speaker 1: out of it. She just says things that don't really
Speaker 1: make sense. I don't know then, and she's Sutton. She's
Speaker 1: like kide of ways. Well it looks like your pantoys eating,
Speaker 1: like your pulls on your way, And I just love her.
Speaker 1: I just love her.
Speaker 2: Jim for some reason, she's like, Okay, Sutton, you're so worldly.
Speaker 2: I just forgot how worldly you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting to me how so many of
Speaker 1: these sort of I don't want to say they get
Speaker 1: a pass, but they always like when they have bigger
Speaker 1: fish to fry, certain people get off the hook. So
Speaker 1: like season probably we're going to be hearing more about
Speaker 1: Kyle and you know, and then so basically Sutton gets
Speaker 1: off the hook for being a crazy person.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, we'll see. Although they seem to have
Speaker 2: formed some sort of like bond, which I'm not super
Speaker 2: thrilled about, but well, we'll get to that, and I
Speaker 2: want to form the bond clarify. Yeah, they're trauma bonding
Speaker 2: for sure, but I want to clarify that. When I
Speaker 2: say that they're more real than the OC, it's just that,
Speaker 2: like not just their wealth, but it's sort of like
Speaker 2: they are I don't know exact what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: They're just I don't even want to say more likable,
Speaker 2: but kind of more likable. Would it be okay to
Speaker 2: say more fabulous in the worst way. Like it's more
Speaker 2: it's like the OC are just genuinely mostly horrendous people
Speaker 2: that you would never like be on the same side
Speaker 2: with morally politically, they're just awful Okay, do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Whereas Beverly Hills you're.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, yeah, I probably wouldn't be invited to their parties,
Speaker 2: Like they're not going to have me either, but I
Speaker 2: don't want to be a member of a club that
Speaker 2: would have me. That's a and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: At least it's more fun to watch their shit, like
Speaker 2: and the OC. They're always going like, let's go on
Speaker 2: a mud run, Let's go do this weird outdoor activity
Speaker 2: that nobody wants to do. Let's just be super drunk,
Speaker 2: and like, oh, we're so lucy and ethel with Emily
Speaker 2: and Gina, right and who I love.
Speaker 1: But do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is just a little more I guess it's just
Speaker 2: more old school to me, and I like that, That's
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're not real more like the way New York used
Speaker 1: to be when we love.
Speaker 2: Yeah the first place, Yes, when we sort of hate
Speaker 2: watch them too. And then there was always somebody like
Speaker 2: back then it was Bethany. They were like, Okay, well
Speaker 2: we love her. That's who is this year for you?
Speaker 2: For Beverly Hills. Yeah, m I think it's Bose.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be our new woman Bose
Speaker 1: who I just think. I mean, we'll see. But like
Speaker 1: what I mean, her whole thing right now is just
Speaker 1: that she's retired from the corporate world.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, she is the true boss. She is
Speaker 2: the real she's the real deal. She was she walked
Speaker 2: so they could fly, is what I want to say
Speaker 2: about her. I love her. I loved her little jokes.
Speaker 2: I loved that her connection to Durret. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was, but there was something that I just
Speaker 2: immediately liked about her. The way that she was speaking
Speaker 2: about She's like it's like, either you know, Seeya, you
Speaker 2: have a bad aura or whatever. We're best friends and
Speaker 2: I love you, and that's how I feel about her.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. I mean, you haven't even it's been
Speaker 1: one episode. I mean we've been texting.
Speaker 2: You don't know what we've been doing. Do you know
Speaker 2: that I haven't dm'd her and that we're not real
Speaker 2: good friends? Now?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't. I well know, is that true? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh I got her snacks and juice. I got you
Speaker 1: some snacks and juice.
Speaker 2: So then so it's cool girl summer that they're trying
Speaker 2: to get hashtagging, which is too late. And then somebody
Speaker 2: brings up Merse, like, can we please let that man
Speaker 2: rest in peace?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Sometimes you got to let like the
Speaker 1: season before be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna you're not making that happen. It
Speaker 2: didn't really happen the first time. And it's sad. And
Speaker 2: and then so then Sutton is being so annoying cause
Speaker 2: she's like, well, everybody knows about Dolly, and so I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously we're gonna have to have a surrealist gala.
Speaker 1: That Kyle's really dumb. She didn't know what.
Speaker 2: I'll give Kyle a pass on this sudden just drunkenly
Speaker 2: is like, you know about Dolly, and she's thinking, like,
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1: Why would you not think that?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: And I only know this recently, But it's act actually
Speaker 1: is pronounced Dolly, that's how. That's how it's Dali Dhali.
Speaker 1: It's actually pronounced that way. Because I believe you, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I didn't know it either, But I
Speaker 1: have a friend who was who's a fan of the artist,
Speaker 1: and was at someone's house and was saying, oh, oh
Speaker 1: you have a Dali And I was like, oh, is
Speaker 1: that how it's pronounced, and then she said yes, so
Speaker 1: when so it's not Salvador Dolly, So when Sutton was
Speaker 1: the one who was incorrect, and then she tried to
Speaker 1: throw shade to Kyle. When Kyle's like, oh, oh, Dali, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Dolly, and Sutton's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I did that. I did that impression that
Speaker 1: you like when I go, oh, disgusted, She's like, yeah, Kyle,
Speaker 1: like she doesn't really know surrealis yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, actually except Kyle. But no, Kyle is the one
Speaker 2: who knew how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly at that that already pissed me off about Ston.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying too hard.
Speaker 2: You don't don't. Don't get it twisted on that. I
Speaker 2: try to bring that back. Don't get it twisted on that.
Speaker 2: So Sudden and Kyle have this like I guess dinner
Speaker 2: or they're talking about that they had a dinner, they
Speaker 2: had they reconciled at this dinner because because Sutton was missing,
Speaker 2: she had to put this in. She's like, I just
Speaker 2: would find all this stuff online that I wanted to
Speaker 2: send Kyle, and I just missed her. I'm so rich.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I didn't know where to
Speaker 2: send all the presents.
Speaker 1: That bugged me. That whole little thing bugged me so badly,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, Kyle's probably was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's not worth it to be in
Speaker 1: fights with all these people, So finally I'll go, I'll
Speaker 1: go meet you for lunch. But Sutton acts like she's
Speaker 1: doing such.
Speaker 2: A favor to people agreed by forgiving that the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's even worse than Erica in my opinion. But so Erica,
Speaker 2: this probably triggered you. She has money again, and I
Speaker 2: just wrote gross because we know this because she's going
Speaker 2: to buy new FURNI because the old one is just
Speaker 2: like bad memories of Tom. You know that awful you
Speaker 2: know my ex husband, Tom, who stole millions of dollars
Speaker 2: from like crash victims, that guy.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm triggered because I you know, it
Speaker 1: was really hard. First of all, I had to live
Speaker 1: in a mansion.
Speaker 2: There was some might call she said, some might call
Speaker 2: it a mansion, and then they show the mansion and
Speaker 2: you're like.
Speaker 1: Girl, fuck off, that was okay. Yeah I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't, And just to buy all her new furniture
Speaker 2: at showrooms at the Pacific Design Center, Like you can't
Speaker 2: go to Living Spaces.
Speaker 1: Oh, she had got it because she's obviously getting something
Speaker 1: for free, because she name checked Pacific Design Center and
Speaker 1: they showed the outside of Pacific Design Center just all.
Speaker 2: Times I saw wicked there by the way living Spaces.
Speaker 1: So she guys, today's show is brought to you by
Speaker 1: Living Space.
Speaker 2: Never get that jingle out of your head as long
Speaker 2: as you live. But that's where we would get our couches.
Speaker 2: We would not be able to go to this. Oh
Speaker 2: it's so annoying. But she's like, yeah, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonat want of money and buy a new couch.
Speaker 1: Well, and also she says that her house is so small.
Speaker 1: She's like, my house is so small, even though I've
Speaker 1: heard it's like twenty five hundred square feet, but she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so No, I'm not kidding. I think somebody was
Speaker 1: talking about that at some point. She doesn't live in
Speaker 1: a small house.
Speaker 2: I heard. I thought you were saying that, she said.
Speaker 2: I've heard like she doesn't even know the square footage.
Speaker 1: Like, no, she's no that I heard that. I know.
Speaker 1: I was still doing the voice, but she supposedly her
Speaker 1: house is like twenty five hundred square feet, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: is that a mansion? No, that's you know right, it's
Speaker 1: all sized house.
Speaker 2: You've got a house that you did, Yeah, you're And
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I mean it's I just have a
Speaker 2: living room and a bedroom and then two other bedrooms
Speaker 2: and are closets. Well, no, that's a three bedroom then studio.
Speaker 1: Right though, that's exactly right. That's true because remember when
Speaker 1: they showed her house a while ago, she had one
Speaker 1: of the rooms was being used as a closet for
Speaker 1: all her stuff, all her clothes.
Speaker 2: More rooms are being now she's got a bigger space
Speaker 2: for that Bill who She has to say that because
Speaker 2: she knows they're still coming for her, because she says that,
Speaker 2: she's like Tom's about to go on trial?
Speaker 1: Is he is he able to say? Yes? They they
Speaker 1: determined that he is able to stand trial. Oh that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how. I didn't know that, but
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Okay, great, but I hope he goes down.
Speaker 1: I think they have have they Is she got an immunity?
Speaker 2: I mean probably, she's on the show talking about it,
Speaker 2: but like not really. Yeah, so I think that her
Speaker 2: whole thing is like, well, I didn't know about it,
Speaker 2: so I shouldn't have to, Like, how do I get her?
Speaker 2: Why do I have to give up my money? Wasn't
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't do it Tom did. It's all Tom,
Speaker 2: even though recall that she used to talk so much
Speaker 2: about how amazing Tom is, like he's just the greatest guy. Ever,
Speaker 2: how quickly the narrative changes when she's going to possibly
Speaker 2: get in trouble right right now, he's horrible and he
Speaker 2: was abusive and she was in a terrible marriage.
Speaker 1: Don't buy it.
Speaker 2: So Durret is now her best friend, and Durite's skulks
Speaker 2: and I have to say she looked gorgeous though.
Speaker 1: I loved that little jumpsuit. I finally had some work done.
Speaker 1: Yeah they all have, right, I mean, oh, you're saying
Speaker 1: Durite looks amazing. I think she looked at me.
Speaker 2: I love that little gray, little little jumpsuit thing she
Speaker 2: was wearing. I've DMed her before or maybe just put
Speaker 2: it on Insta. She was wearing these very like, really
Speaker 2: cute square sunglasses. I later found out they were dire
Speaker 2: and out of my price range, but I texted her
Speaker 2: I was like, can you just.
Speaker 1: Tell me where these are? Front?
Speaker 2: I really love your sunglasses, and she did not right back.
Speaker 2: But to be fair, she probably didn't see it because
Speaker 2: it went to her like business DM. Although I doubt
Speaker 2: she's getting that many dms. Is she probably I asked
Speaker 2: her word, I think she's the well until we get
Speaker 2: to the party that she did. She didn't do so
Speaker 2: well at the party, but so she skulks in and
Speaker 2: she's like, I want you to help me. I want
Speaker 2: you to help me decorate my new house so small.
Speaker 2: So that's we have to deal with now, Dreid.
Speaker 1: Like I went, I saw celebrity therapist doctor jen doctor
Speaker 1: Jen Man, who cannot get a reality show to save
Speaker 1: her life. I can't stand that she is the worst.
Speaker 2: Anybody who even does that, like like celebrity female doctor
Speaker 2: Drew and she's cuckoo crazy totally.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, you know, you're probably triggered by you know,
Speaker 1: having to be like around you know, Tom's furniture, which
Speaker 1: was so beautiful and glamorous and in a mansion, and
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to give me that furniture,
Speaker 1: I'll take it, you know, but yeah, you you deserve
Speaker 1: some new furniture, okay, right, right, she deserves it so, so
Speaker 1: deserves it.
Speaker 2: So then so Darita immediately is like, well, I have
Speaker 2: some news. I've got a lot of news. And Erica
Speaker 2: can't sit down because she's put on so much body
Speaker 2: tanner and these are very expensive whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they chose a thing.
Speaker 2: I guess it was just a weird bench that was
Speaker 2: not for sale, or she's like, I'll just buy this one.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something that is so not relatable
Speaker 1: about her? About these people, Erica Jane has like the
Speaker 1: most insane body, Like she looks like she's fourteen, and
Speaker 1: yet she's constantly doing sort of the the Emily thing
Speaker 1: on Orange County Housewives, where she's like, I just need
Speaker 1: a sandwich. I'm starved. She's always pretending to be starved
Speaker 1: and acting like she just eats so much, and it's
Speaker 1: like she's not on a s which is making her sick. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course it's not true. She cannot eat everything she
Speaker 1: wants unless she's dancing like eighteen hours a day, which
Speaker 1: I seriously doubt.
Speaker 2: I don't. It's funny though, I think she's I think
Speaker 2: she's gorgeous, and I think her body is slamming, but
Speaker 2: I don't think she's like that tiny, like compared like
Speaker 2: Dret is the one that's super tiny, But she's not
Speaker 2: the one doing this.
Speaker 1: She's never eating. Did you I mean I think she's
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight. I don't think I think she.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not saying she's too skinny, but she's
Speaker 1: in insane shape.
Speaker 2: Like did you look at her legs? Oh, she's the
Speaker 2: fuck out. I think she. I think she. I think
Speaker 2: she works out a lot. She looks the most. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's one of the healthiest. To me. It's funny that
Speaker 2: you bring that, because when I look at her, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a healthy body image. I think, like, she doesn't
Speaker 2: look scrawny. I like that she is always eating.
Speaker 1: Maybe she maybe she's not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think she looks really pretty but boring.
Speaker 2: Drete has news. She's like, okay, bad news, good news.
Speaker 2: So we're I don't know where we ever got to
Speaker 2: the good news. Yeah, I don't think we did. We
Speaker 2: didn't because she's just whatever. And she's like Pikay and
Speaker 2: I have separated, and so Erica has to pretend like
Speaker 2: she's not heard that, right, she's like, oh shit, and
Speaker 2: then she's like crying for some reason.
Speaker 1: Eric is like, I'm just I can't. Oh. She immediately
Speaker 1: makes it about her for god knows how, how or
Speaker 1: why it's become about her. That was so bizarre to me.
Speaker 1: She's crying, then Dret's comforting her, right, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: so weird, Like, oh you're sad, okay, and then she
Speaker 1: gets interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, this gets interesting because dere all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we're getting a narrative that I don't remember, which we
Speaker 2: kind of maybe talked about a little bit last season,
Speaker 2: but where she's like, well, you know, I mean pk'
Speaker 2: is an alcoholic. Now we're gonna that's gonna We're gonna get
Speaker 2: PK's side, which I found fascinating. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: she's coming in real hot on this separation, and it's
Speaker 2: because while he was an alcoholic, he's an alcoholic. He
Speaker 2: has issues, right, And they do a lot of flashbacks
Speaker 2: where it's like, well, PK, didn't you know he's awful.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that he didn't even He was like
Speaker 2: I don't think you have PTSD. I think you're just obnoxious.
Speaker 2: You are annoying like he's an asshole. She should have
Speaker 2: left it a long time ago, but it doesn't sound
Speaker 2: like she left him in this case, right, which was
Speaker 2: shocking to me.
Speaker 1: I I have I have some mixed feelings about that
Speaker 1: whole thing about her spilling his Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was disgusting. She she calls him an alcoholic in like
Speaker 1: eight different scenes. You just can't wait to tell everybody,
Speaker 1: including strangers, he's an alcoholic. Yes, he's in AA he's
Speaker 1: working the steps. Like shut up. But oh my god,
Speaker 1: she says out later to your best friend. Bo's she
Speaker 1: is my best friend, so we'll know. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like he got sober. He's he's like in the program,
Speaker 1: he's working the steps. She's like, oh, boss, Like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's good. Right.
Speaker 2: That is so obnoxious that she said that, and it's
Speaker 2: so inappropriate. It's so on so many level. But it's
Speaker 2: also very derete. That's what she does. She just she's
Speaker 2: just got a mouth and it just spills its way
Speaker 2: too much. She has no boundaries, but she's setting something up.
Speaker 2: She wants p K to be the bad guy. She
Speaker 2: neither needs it in her mind or for the divorce.
Speaker 2: That she's coming after his money. So she's got to
Speaker 2: set up the narrative now, and she needs Kyle to
Speaker 2: help her. But she and Kyle are not They're not
Speaker 2: good and they.
Speaker 1: Also didn't like by the way, this when when Erica
Speaker 1: Jane is like, I'm gonna cry and then Drete tells
Speaker 1: the camera she's like, yeah, it's ironic that I'm confiding
Speaker 1: in her after she talks about my marriage at Bravocan
Speaker 1: and then they show the little flashback of uh, what's
Speaker 1: you know what they had that fight at the reunion
Speaker 1: because she's breaking up. Yeah, and she's like, PI, k yeah,
Speaker 1: which very yeah, which and which is so weird because
Speaker 1: now exactly what you said, which is why I find
Speaker 1: her so fake. Now she needs that narrative, she needs
Speaker 1: it to be like you know, she's like, yeah, our
Speaker 1: marriage actually was basically in trouble, but you know they
Speaker 1: all knew yes, no, that is that is ridiculous. But
Speaker 1: then she tries to let her off the hook. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what it was really like Andy being shady,
Speaker 1: Like they gave like they gave her a shady question,
Speaker 1: did they also?
Speaker 2: Why would she yes, they did, they gave her a
Speaker 2: shady question, but like everyone knows that. And when they show, okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to get to So she and Kyle are
Speaker 2: still not getting along.
Speaker 1: They're having and that's brought up.
Speaker 2: So she's having this conversation with Erica, right is this
Speaker 2: is a scene where we're kind of seeing both. We're
Speaker 2: hearing Durte's side and then we later hear Kyle's side,
Speaker 2: sort of back and forth as to why those two
Speaker 2: just don't get along. Kyle, it cuts to Kyle for
Speaker 2: a minute, who's upset because Moe just moved out and
Speaker 2: then her daughter Alexia just moved out.
Speaker 1: So she's just it's.
Speaker 2: Just poor porsia. It's like, yeah, I don't really like
Speaker 2: it when it's just porsia.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't.
Speaker 2: She's like, it's just really quiet when it's just poorsia.
Speaker 1: See like you now again, I didn't. I didn't see
Speaker 1: it that way at all. I felt like she was saying,
Speaker 1: like she she's used to being in this huge, bustling
Speaker 1: house with like you know, she's she has a lot
Speaker 1: of kids, and she's saying, it's just weird to have
Speaker 1: like just one of my kids.
Speaker 2: Right and a camera crew. It's hard it's crazy. It's
Speaker 2: really it is a lot though. I mean, she and
Speaker 2: Mo were together a very long time. He's kind of
Speaker 2: moved on. Sounds like whatever she moved on to didn't
Speaker 2: work out. So she's kind of fucked and she's kind
Speaker 2: of some of her friendships got fucked. But when we
Speaker 2: see the reasons, I'm just not team Kyle on this.
Speaker 2: So is this when who Erica comes over to Kyle's house?
Speaker 2: So we're going to do a cut back and forth
Speaker 2: between through Erica's point of view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just something else to say though about
Speaker 1: the dereet Oh.
Speaker 2: We're going to go back and forth. Sure, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a weird.
Speaker 1: Where Dereee is saying that when she's talked about how
Speaker 1: he is an alcoholic and stuff, and she's like, she's
Speaker 1: trying to put across this narrative that they would have
Speaker 1: these huge fights, you know, huge fights that nobody knew
Speaker 1: how much they were fighting. She's like, because she says
Speaker 1: that she was having she's telling us that she's been
Speaker 1: having trouble in our marriage for the last year, but
Speaker 1: even before that it had just has never been great,
Speaker 1: and that he poured alcohol in his problems, and that
Speaker 1: that's caused the huge, huge fights, and then he decided
Speaker 1: to quit drinking, but now she's going to be mad.
Speaker 1: Then he quit drinking, got some clarity and broke up
Speaker 1: with her. Ass well that's that.
Speaker 2: We don't know that yet though that's coming from his
Speaker 2: We're going to get to his point of view, right.
Speaker 1: But then, so eric Jane says to her, though she's
Speaker 1: like so, but we see her at the reunion going, yes,
Speaker 1: my marriage is better than ever. So Erica Jane's like, well,
Speaker 1: what happened between then and now? That's where she says, well,
Speaker 1: it was only like a week ago. Do we believe though?
Speaker 1: Do we do? Do we believe that once they started
Speaker 1: filming only the week before? I don't know, then a
Speaker 1: week ago we sat down like two mature adults and
Speaker 1: decided to separate. This is just such bullshit. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's what she needs. So then Jane says, well, I'm
Speaker 1: going to lunch with Kyle later. Should I talk to
Speaker 1: her about it? And DREI He's like, no, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to. And this gave me shades of
Speaker 1: Orange County when Shannon's like talks to Heather deubro and
Speaker 1: is like don't tell anybody anything, like you're saying it
Speaker 1: on camera.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's all already out there because we know
Speaker 2: that Kyle's already dealt with it to some degree, which
Speaker 2: we will get to, right. So the back and forth
Speaker 2: was a little bit exhausting, but some of the first
Speaker 2: I have one more thing to say. Sorry, sorry, But
Speaker 2: when Kyle, when Kyle's talking about being in her house
Speaker 2: alone and how she was used to there was like
Speaker 2: a used to have like a lot of guys in
Speaker 2: the house, you know, or she's the only woman in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: And then when she talks about how she doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to work her two I'm sorry. I found her
Speaker 1: so relatable. It's just like I totally get that. I
Speaker 1: have to ask Xander all the time, like how the
Speaker 1: TV works. There's too many speakers and things and I
Speaker 1: don't get it. And then she's like, yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: work the pool heater.
Speaker 2: Like she just that was cute when she was trying
Speaker 2: to I could relate. When she had the TV She's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want that. She's like trying to turn something on.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, I don't want that.
Speaker 1: So yes, So that's where I first That's where I
Speaker 1: first was like, Okay, I think I'm gonna be liking
Speaker 1: Kyle a lot this season. And that's where you were
Speaker 1: like fuck her.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't say fuck her. I just don't believe her.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to believe vander Pump. I'm starting to like
Speaker 2: revisit every I'm starting to believe Kim Richard's and Kathy.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think Kyle is a manipulative I
Speaker 2: don't totally trust her.
Speaker 1: Now, this is a weird the fight.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is where it comes up yet,
Speaker 2: but they're both talking about how they didn't get along,
Speaker 2: Kyle and Deurite, and there's a dumb thing where they're
Speaker 2: sitting next to each other. It's some Bravo thing and
Speaker 2: they're like, who's your favorite. It's a dumb question that
Speaker 2: Andy's like, who's your favorite Richard's sister And she goes
Speaker 2: to take a shot dree and Kyle like makes her
Speaker 2: not take the shit, you know, kind of bumps the
Speaker 2: thing as a joke, like bumps the shot glass. And
Speaker 2: then she's like, well, I mean, obviously, Kathy, like it's
Speaker 2: a joke. It is clearly a joke, and that is
Speaker 2: that's a go to. That's what one of the reasons
Speaker 2: that Kyle is mad at her.
Speaker 1: That's that's not the only reason though, but she also
Speaker 1: the thing that happened at the reunion, Durree was being
Speaker 1: a total couz where she's like, you know, Kyle, you
Speaker 1: really trying to basically butt into her relationship with Kathy
Speaker 1: and acting like she has her own private relationship with Kathy.
Speaker 1: And by the way, she's still doing that this season.
Speaker 1: She still does a relationship with Kathy.
Speaker 2: I think they became friends, and I think durit even
Speaker 2: though she can be really annoying and we're gonna see,
Speaker 2: but I think that she was trying to help but
Speaker 2: not I think she was like, well, you guys just
Speaker 2: need to communicate, or something like.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I would find that. So I thought it
Speaker 1: was bad.
Speaker 2: I just think that and maybe it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of the ed the Bravo edit, because they were putting
Speaker 2: they were putting Kyle in black and white and slowing
Speaker 2: slowing down her words. They're giving her a villain edit
Speaker 2: for sure. They're like, she's a master manipulator. And then
Speaker 2: it showed Kyle and she was laughing, you didn't like
Speaker 2: they were trying to. I mean it worked on me. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm very easily swayed. But I just wrote, is.
Speaker 1: Kyle the master manipulator? But like, yeah, but I noticed that,
Speaker 1: and like based on what that's that's what Dart wants
Speaker 1: you to think. Sure, but why would they choose to read?
Speaker 2: I mean, usually the producers choose the way we think,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, it's not like
Speaker 2: they're always just choosing the worst person to like make
Speaker 2: They're not. I think that the narrat I mean, they
Speaker 2: know more than we do. And how many people have
Speaker 2: to say it Kyle's not my least favorite. I mean
Speaker 2: I like Kyle. I have no crazy big issues with Kyle.
Speaker 2: But if every cast member has said it over fourteen seasons,
Speaker 2: I don't know, could be a could be a problem.
Speaker 1: Well, and they also say that about Dree. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff they say about Dere And it really
Speaker 1: does depend on that. My best friend, she's not she's
Speaker 1: not bose because they have they have Kyle saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Durite doesn't.
Speaker 2: Listen, and then she doesn't lets she talks, she don't
Speaker 2: live on right, Like for sure, Dearite's annoying as fuck,
Speaker 2: and she's obviously losing her mind. She's not great, but
Speaker 2: like you know, they show it, you know, all the
Speaker 2: time lapses where she's talking, then the time lapse into
Speaker 2: like later in the night she's still talking. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I meanwhile, Garcel, can we just I texted stuff? I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, so she's Oliver's in town? Her her
Speaker 2: son who.
Speaker 1: Who cheated exactly? Who like cheated on his wife? I
Speaker 1: don't know how, Like, why are we always trying to
Speaker 1: give Garcel's sons like these great edits?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean her son, member, don't let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: We had a whole thing about, you know, the dreet
Speaker 1: son getting told to shut up by Rika Jane like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all about her sons. I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I know, I am so with you and Garcel always
Speaker 2: working and she's like, as a young model, it was
Speaker 2: a lot to bring Oliver to all the sets. Did
Speaker 2: I mention that I was a young model and I
Speaker 2: was acting and Oliver just like did so great on
Speaker 2: the set.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we get it. You're killing it great.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Garcel. I really am and now
Speaker 1: she has to use her son to be like to
Speaker 1: talk to do spout off her resume some more. She's like, yes,
Speaker 1: She's like, guess what Oliver Mom's playing. I'm I'm executive
Speaker 1: producing a movie and would you believe it, I'm playing
Speaker 1: a cougar? What me? And She's like, he used to
Speaker 1: love to come to the sets with me. And you
Speaker 1: know what's so amazing is he's so interested in coming
Speaker 1: to see me on the set this time. No, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's just trying to be on the show. He's trying
Speaker 1: to be a cast member on the.
Speaker 2: Show, right, And he brought his girlfriend, his girl. She's like,
Speaker 2: is your girlfriend here? Is Is she in the house? Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's sleeping. She sleeps real late. She gets around one.
Speaker 2: It's just how we do it, you know. I tried
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's get up and go hiking. No, she's
Speaker 1: not about that.
Speaker 2: So when she gets up, when she is good and ready,
Speaker 2: she'll come out and say hello to you.
Speaker 1: That so weird.
Speaker 2: I understand that at all. So then Dark goes to Kathy's.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was really but I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: They were getting ready for the surrealist ball already of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But by the way, one really quick note which
Speaker 1: was ridiculous to me was in the very beginning, when
Speaker 1: they're showing everybody and they're all, you know, people are driving,
Speaker 1: they showed Durit driving through Beverly Hills, waving toward toward
Speaker 1: Kathy's house, as if to let us know these two
Speaker 1: are good friends. She can't even drive by her house
Speaker 1: without waving. She's like, hello, Kathy, And they show Kathy's
Speaker 1: mansion and I was like, oh my god, stop, did
Speaker 1: you notice that at the beginning, I thought she.
Speaker 2: Was going by Sutton's house. That's so funny. That makes
Speaker 2: more sense that it's Kathy's house. That's very annoying.
Speaker 1: Kathy's house, because then they showed it again when she
Speaker 1: went over there.
Speaker 2: We think Kathy lives in Beverly Hills, right, she probably does,
Speaker 2: Oh bel air, Oh she might be.
Speaker 1: I don't know, she might be. At that point.
Speaker 2: I think you're maybe behind a gate, so that'd be
Speaker 2: more bel air. Yeah, well never there should be a
Speaker 2: tour of that, but that would be dangerous for them,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: So basically, before before she goes over to Kathy's house,
Speaker 1: we have a A. It's twelve fifty six on a Thursday,
Speaker 1: and we get the headline that has hit E news,
Speaker 1: Ryll's housewife of Beverly Hills, dream Kemsley and p K
Speaker 1: Kemsley break up after nine years of marriage, Radar Online,
Speaker 1: Daily Mail, like all the big tabloids. And then they
Speaker 1: show everybody reacting like having a freaking heart attack right right,
Speaker 1: and though they didn't know this exactly exactly, and then
Speaker 1: Kyle's on the phone with Erica and Erica's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew, she told me a Pacific Design Center. But
Speaker 1: I'm such a good friend, like I even though I
Speaker 1: was a Pacific Design Center because I'm sponsored by them.
Speaker 1: Even though I was there with her, I didn't even
Speaker 1: say anything.
Speaker 2: Even though I was there at Pacific Design Center, I
Speaker 2: didn't tell you not to tell you.
Speaker 1: You're such a hero, Erica, You're like the best friend
Speaker 1: anyone could have. You're so trustworthy. She is just amazing.
Speaker 1: So is this one? Because we're going to come back
Speaker 1: to Kathy.
Speaker 2: We have a second with Kathy where Durid's basically saying, well,
Speaker 2: Kathy was supportive when Kyle iced me out, so that's
Speaker 2: this is my only option I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: friends with Cam Richards. That's crazy. So Kathy's all I get. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just out of her mind. But then first,
Speaker 2: is this where we go sit with Mauricio and Pek
Speaker 2: for a second they pop in.
Speaker 1: Yes, but so before Durite goes over to Kathy's house,
Speaker 1: This is where she's just like smoking in her car
Speaker 1: and she has to So she goes to Kathy's house
Speaker 1: and what is Kathy having done to her face? She's
Speaker 1: she looks like she's on an IV. There's an ivy
Speaker 1: pole there, there's people surrounding her. It's like out of
Speaker 1: a sci fi movie. She looks crazy. She barely makes
Speaker 1: eye contact with Durit and Darite's talking to the camera
Speaker 1: and yeah, and she's like, it's ironic that Kyle's icing
Speaker 1: me up. But Kathy offers me so much support. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great support. She didn't look at you when you walked in. Right,
Speaker 1: She's just sitting there with her arms out by her side,
Speaker 1: getting an IV and having things done to her face,
Speaker 1: and Durite's liked is in her bedroom doing going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we it's ridiculous. So, yes, a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: But first we pop over to Mauricio. First of all,
Speaker 2: I was like, Mauricio, I had this weird reaction. I
Speaker 2: was like, I missed you. But then PK shows him
Speaker 2: like I did not miss you, didn't And they're sitting
Speaker 2: so close together. Did you notice how like Mauricio is
Speaker 2: such a close talker and annoys me.
Speaker 1: I didn't really notice that that was weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, but so now this triggered me. Now hear me
Speaker 2: out on this. Okay, I'll give you how annoying deurit is.
Speaker 2: Kyle sent PK a text, but not dereit even though
Speaker 2: they're in a fight. That's your old friend of a
Speaker 2: decade and you're going to send the husband a text.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's going to come back later. That is
Speaker 1: taky as fuck.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because then PK has his side of
Speaker 2: the story and he's like, yeah, the problem.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, what happened?
Speaker 2: He's like, what happened is I got sober and then
Speaker 2: I became clear, which I thought was a scientology reference
Speaker 2: for a second, which with PK as very possible.
Speaker 1: H was like, did he get clear?
Speaker 2: Is he through all the stages of sciential She good
Speaker 2: for him, but getting sober made him see everything better
Speaker 2: and really see the whole Diurite situation.
Speaker 1: And so then he left her, which was shocking to me.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile Durite is talking to Kathy and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not telling the kids. I mean they're only eight
Speaker 1: and ten. Okay, only eight and ten, they're not four
Speaker 1: and five. I think your ten year old is going
Speaker 1: to fucking notice that you got separated from his dad.
Speaker 2: That's r they know, they know now. So then Kathy's like,
Speaker 2: what happened and she goes, he's.
Speaker 1: A full blown alcoholic. He's just a horrible alcoholic. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's not your fucking story to share.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, well I just had some Like first
Speaker 2: of all, she says something that was so interesting to me.
Speaker 2: First of all, she needs some Alan on meetings, Like
Speaker 2: she needs to take care of her stuff, because she's
Speaker 2: saying like, well, I stood by him with this. The
Speaker 2: DUIs this, and I totally get it. You think you
Speaker 2: think if you're gonna be the one. It's kind of
Speaker 2: the John Mulane. It's like it flashed back a lot
Speaker 2: of people who've had this and I myself probably have
Speaker 2: where you're.
Speaker 1: Like I stood by you when you were like rock bottom.
Speaker 2: But then they climb out of rock bottom and they
Speaker 2: don't want to be like now, they're just like, well,
Speaker 2: this is the toxic dynamic, right, this isn't good and
Speaker 2: there is something to that. And I think Duri, honestly,
Speaker 2: if she's being truthful, if she's if we're seeing something
Speaker 2: that she doesn't see, like she could benefit from some
Speaker 2: conversations about that. That's a real thing and it's not
Speaker 2: healthy and it's not healthy for her. But it's definitely
Speaker 2: not healthy for her to like spill PK stuff. Even
Speaker 2: though we don't like PK, it's not okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, on camera kind of liking PK during this,
Speaker 1: PK sounds like he's I don't. I mean, obviously he's
Speaker 1: not great and there is a lot of stuff, but
Speaker 1: he's really not great, Like I think he really did.
Speaker 2: I really do think he's set up that quote unquote robbery.
Speaker 2: They were in debt, he owed a shit ton of money.
Speaker 2: It was a way to make money, and I think
Speaker 2: it went wrong and they went too far. And maybe
Speaker 2: he didn't tell her because he didn't want her to
Speaker 2: have to be accountable, you know, like if he knew
Speaker 2: she wasn't a good liar or something, so he made
Speaker 2: he didn't tell her maybe she wasn't supposed to be home,
Speaker 2: but that was shady as fuck, and I think that
Speaker 2: was all Pk' poss He's awful. But she's also, you know,
Speaker 2: a head in the sand this whole time.
Speaker 1: So Kathy is like to Dury, She's like, do you
Speaker 1: guys still get together? And then she raises her eyebrows
Speaker 1: like a movie villain, and it's like, huh, what do
Speaker 1: you do? Like do we have sex?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Right, obviously not. And then Kathy's like, do you get
Speaker 1: jealous if he goes out? She's like no, what, No,
Speaker 1: it's such a weird conversation. This is so weird. He's
Speaker 1: so weird. And I don't I did not. I'm not well.
Speaker 2: I don't want her back, honestly, we don't need her
Speaker 2: as a friend of Yeah, her question are so stupid,
Speaker 2: like do you and p K?
Speaker 1: I have a question?
Speaker 2: Do PK sometimes dress up like turtles and then rub
Speaker 2: your bodies against each other? And Dory's like, no, Kathy, no,
Speaker 2: And now she's like rethinking, like maybe I really should
Speaker 2: make up with Kyle because this is awful, right, Like
Speaker 2: Kathy thinks she's asking all the right questions, but none
Speaker 2: of them makes sense.
Speaker 1: Are you guys still like rubbing your privates together?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But also, by the we're going to find out later,
Speaker 1: Kathy is not Durit's friend either, right, Kathy is about Kathy.
Speaker 1: She doesn't give a fuck about any of these people.
Speaker 1: I think Kathy is absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: Totally, and I don't know why. She doesn't need the show,
Speaker 2: So I don't really get it. I get what she's doing,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't understand what she's up to.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need it, she's not Does she have a
Speaker 2: line of something I don't remember?
Speaker 1: Does she have tequila? Yell? Yeah, but she doesn't even
Speaker 1: really need that, yes, because remember one of the narratives
Speaker 1: was that she was really angry that they wouldn't like
Speaker 1: talk about her to her alcohol line.
Speaker 2: Oh they ordered, they went into Yeah, Renna ordered something else, Kardashians.
Speaker 2: She ordered Chris Jenner's tequila line to be an asshole.
Speaker 2: I kind of miss Renna. I know you don't, but
Speaker 2: I feel like we need her on that wall right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was the only one who was speaking
Speaker 1: truth to power about Kathy mm hmm.
Speaker 2: About really everybody in some ways. Sometimes she was a
Speaker 2: little she was a little nasty, but okay. So back
Speaker 2: to Sutton and Jennifer Chilly.
Speaker 1: They're playing dress up, which was annoying. I have a costume.
Speaker 1: Want to see it? A costume? Quoki, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then I just wrote have a little merse because
Speaker 2: they're still trying to get merse back in there, which
Speaker 2: is just exhausting. So they're all getting ready for the ball,
Speaker 2: which I was like, oh my god, we have to
Speaker 2: do this now. I thought I thought they were like
Speaker 2: gearing up for something who's gonna happen at the end
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I had thought that originally, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's that's that's our storyline for
Speaker 1: this show. They got to get everybody together.
Speaker 2: Ten am on a Wednesday. Clearly it's you know, because
Speaker 2: I don't know what time. I don't know when they're
Speaker 2: filming this, but right now, it gets dark in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles at like four point thirty, so they started this
Speaker 2: at eleven because there was a lot of daylight on
Speaker 2: this party. Yeah. I don't know why they didn't mention
Speaker 2: that it was like a brunch. It goes in tonight
Speaker 2: but whatever, Well they're.
Speaker 1: Kidding, isn't it. It's kind of summer I think when
Speaker 1: they're filming maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just it's a ball where you're wearing
Speaker 2: these crazy costumes.
Speaker 1: That's not a daytime thing. What are we doing? I know?
Speaker 1: But if they were filming it in the summer, like
Speaker 1: you said, it doesn't get dark until like nine o'clock,
Speaker 1: So what are they going to do? Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: to start it. I don't know. But meanwhile, while they're
Speaker 1: everyone's getting ready for the party and Kyle's Kyle's getting
Speaker 1: ready and she calls Kathy. They FaceTime and Kyle's like,
Speaker 1: what should I wear to this party? And Kathy Kathy
Speaker 1: says like, how about a turban? Then we get a
Speaker 1: flashback to the reunion where Durite's wearing like the turban
Speaker 1: over her head kind of and Andy's like, what's up
Speaker 1: with that? And she's like fashion fashion, fashion, fashion fashion,
Speaker 1: And people pointed out she looked like an estophag.
Speaker 2: She looked like Sutton's esophagus. Well that's what she went as.
Speaker 1: Kathy and Kyle are basically like laughing at Dereite from
Speaker 1: that that, like they're having an inside joke. About it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Durite's just been over to Kathy's house thinking that that's
Speaker 1: her friend, and she's being she's so caddy.
Speaker 2: No one is to be trusted in that and any
Speaker 2: of the in the entire show, but certainly not in
Speaker 2: the Richard's Sister family, right for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, so then so we all we show up to
Speaker 1: the party.
Speaker 2: There's some a couple of weird oh yeah, son, surreal
Speaker 2: whatever this is. When I had mentioned that, it seems
Speaker 2: like it's like eight thirty am. Jennifer Tilly shows up
Speaker 2: really way too early. It just seems so they're doing
Speaker 2: this weird thing where everyone gets out of their town
Speaker 2: car and they do like a little freeze frame and
Speaker 2: it's just not working there.
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of stumbling. No one looks great. It's way
Speaker 1: too early.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly's like, oh, like she just I don't know
Speaker 2: who steered her this direction, but yeah, she has no
Speaker 2: business being there.
Speaker 1: And then Durit shows up. Okay, so let's talk about
Speaker 1: Duried's dress, okay, because this is good, you're gonna have.
Speaker 1: This is the one time where I was like actually
Speaker 1: on Durite's side because against fricking Sutton Ston just wants
Speaker 1: to be Sutton's trying to be Caddy, but she's just
Speaker 1: so awful at it. She's the worst. She's the worst.
Speaker 2: She thinks she's so civilized. That's the thing is so annoying.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I guess she went to the wrong
Speaker 2: wing of the museum because she's weird, like a modern
Speaker 2: outfit and this is supposed to be surrealist. What does
Speaker 2: she get like a adult, like, what does she have?
Speaker 1: Like? What does she get out of this? The only
Speaker 1: one who was really kind of surrealist was Erica Jane.
Speaker 1: I don't understand high balls. Yeah, I mean, who's doing
Speaker 1: the theme correctly? And who cares? She didn't make fun.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of people who weren't doing who
Speaker 1: did sort of a modern theme, including your girlfriend Bow's,
Speaker 1: but she wasn't complaining about that. You didn't see her
Speaker 1: going after the new cast member and going, well, what's
Speaker 1: that that's just like some random dress. Well, she was
Speaker 1: just in this beautiful white cascading dress.
Speaker 2: Whereas durit had like a like a satellite, I mean,
Speaker 2: she had like a direct TV dish.
Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you're right though, who cares, because like,
Speaker 2: the whole thing is to be weird and out there
Speaker 2: and do whatever you want to do and or dari
Speaker 2: and they made her feel bad. Immediately She's like, oh, so,
Speaker 2: I guess this is lack of condom and dura.
Speaker 1: It's all she already.
Speaker 2: She takes her hat off and keeps adjusting it and
Speaker 2: trying to fix her hair. She's out of sorts. She's
Speaker 2: having a tough time. Deree at this moment, right can
Speaker 2: blame her? Bow's is amazing. I feel like you don't
Speaker 2: see the bows that I see yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know because I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know enough about her. You know, she seems well fine,
Speaker 1: But what I mean you love her? What? What like?
Speaker 1: What do you love about her?
Speaker 2: I think she's beautiful. I think she's funny. I think
Speaker 2: she made funny things. When Kathy came in and took
Speaker 2: her extensions out, she was being really funny in her
Speaker 2: confessionals about that. I like that she ran a bunch
Speaker 2: of market like businesses on the marketing side.
Speaker 1: She's legit. She didn't just marry somebody for money. She
Speaker 1: like worked.
Speaker 2: She is a true boss bitch. I think she's amazing.
Speaker 2: I just think I don't know yet. I could listen,
Speaker 2: I could be God, this is going to be terrible.
Speaker 2: If she's done really bad things, I'll eat my words.
Speaker 2: But I'm hungry, so i'll eat them. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get a hashtag going. I'll eat those whereas I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: I think she's cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know, she's just she's a she is fresh
Speaker 2: air on this show. But then Dary just hones in
Speaker 2: and tells her immediately the PK's an alcoholic. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you love that. I mean it was ridiculous. Yeah, so yes,
Speaker 2: she's like what.
Speaker 1: Bosa is like, well, what is your deal? And she immediately, well,
Speaker 1: my husband and I separated because he's a horrible alcoholic.
Speaker 1: But he's doing But then he's doing the program. He's
Speaker 1: like doing the twelve steps. I just wrote, girl, stop,
Speaker 1: yeah stop.
Speaker 2: And then Bose's trying to relate because she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm widowed. But the truth is we were separated,
Speaker 2: so it was really complicated. I thought that was an interesting,
Speaker 2: very you know, real thing to talk about. I will
Speaker 2: say Garcel looked pretty when she showed up. She did it,
Speaker 2: She did she had a good edit. When she got
Speaker 2: out of her limo, she looked good. There was a
Speaker 2: good wind on her in that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, it's interesting because you like this new woman.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's a similar vibe to Garcel, and
Speaker 1: not just because they're both African American, but because it's
Speaker 1: a similar like I'm a boss bitch like and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna my storyline is going to be that I'm
Speaker 1: just like super successful.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think she was. I'm gonna push Garcel does the
Speaker 1: same sort of like kind of behind the scenes, mixing
Speaker 1: it up with like you know, saying like, oh, I
Speaker 1: mean I'll.
Speaker 2: Push back a little, only because she was asked what
Speaker 2: she did, like someone didn't know and they're like, what's
Speaker 2: your story?
Speaker 1: And she's just like, oh, I used to do all this,
Speaker 1: but she really did.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't get the sense that she well,
Speaker 2: we don't know yet, it's too soon to tell, but
Speaker 2: I just think.
Speaker 1: She's I just like her.
Speaker 2: I just like you like who you like. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: heart wants what it wants now. Darret and Garcel are
Speaker 2: still going at it. And I don't blame Dread in
Speaker 2: this moment because Garcel did say what I said, which
Speaker 2: is that the home invasion seemed staged. I agree with
Speaker 2: Garcela on that, but I don't like the way she
Speaker 2: said it because I don't think that dar knew it
Speaker 2: was staged.
Speaker 1: Does that? Do see what I'm saying. I do see
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Some on the on the on yie
Speaker 1: old reddit we're saying, and I kind of agree with
Speaker 1: this that right now Garca is out like bitch eating
Speaker 1: crackers level of irritation with so she's just going to
Speaker 1: hate anything that Darite does is going to get on
Speaker 1: Garcel's nerves.
Speaker 2: She just doesn't like her. She doesn't like her. They
Speaker 2: don't really even if.
Speaker 1: We don't see when she's saying like oh there are
Speaker 1: microaggressions and Durite's racist and all this stuff. And the
Speaker 1: weird thing about Dree is she just doesn't She says
Speaker 1: she understands, but I don't think she really ever understands.
Speaker 1: And I think Garcel just got tired of like.
Speaker 2: Harry, I see that, and I you know, Durita has
Speaker 2: said some really awful questions, like questionable things like I
Speaker 2: have we have brown people who work for us? Right?
Speaker 2: She says some really, and I could see how Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much i'd want to put up
Speaker 2: with that if I was garcel either.
Speaker 1: Right, I get it. I get that those two are
Speaker 1: not meant to be friends. But I also agree that
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's if you're Garcela and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're that was real, and then you're
Speaker 1: hearing that, you're gonna be fucking pissed.
Speaker 2: Yes, I exactly. Those two have a right to not
Speaker 2: like each other, and maybe we just don't force it.
Speaker 2: Just let them live their lives.
Speaker 1: Neither. Everybody needs to just let them be. We can't.
Speaker 1: We can't, but no one is gonna let Kyle and
Speaker 1: to Read be. They all want them to talk about it,
Speaker 1: especially Erica. But they were real friends. They've been friends
Speaker 1: for a long time. So Eric and Kyle are arriving,
Speaker 1: Kyle's getting nervous in the limo, and I just gonna
Speaker 1: say something, yeah, Kyle, when she's saying, you know, people
Speaker 1: are coming up to her and somebody has a monkey puppet,
Speaker 1: you know, like you do at a surrealist party. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Kyle seemed very judge to me. She's not very nice,
Speaker 2: interesting and please don't forget that you met her and
Speaker 2: she wasn't very nice to you. I met her at
Speaker 2: the first season and she was okay. She took a
Speaker 2: picture with me and she was okay, but she wasn't
Speaker 2: like famous yet. It had only been one season that aired.
Speaker 2: But you remember you met her at something at yogurt
Speaker 2: place and she was rude.
Speaker 1: No, she was really nice to me at the yogurt place.
Speaker 1: The store story was that she I had met her,
Speaker 1: like that was first season, so she wasn't like famous yet,
Speaker 1: and I and I met her there and she was
Speaker 1: actually super super nice and kind of basically gossiped about
Speaker 1: okay mail. But then when I met her a while
Speaker 1: later when she was more famous, our kids were in
Speaker 1: a play together, and I tried to kind of remind
Speaker 1: her of like, hey, we met at a yogurt chop
Speaker 1: and you know, and she was kind of like like
Speaker 1: she's but and she didn't really engage me. But I've
Speaker 1: also like I also understand not trying to like make
Speaker 1: a lot of excuses for her, but I do understand,
Speaker 1: like she we weren't friends, and I'm sure if you're
Speaker 1: on a TV show and people you know, you're just
Speaker 1: there with your kid wanting to you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: don't want to engage with like new people. You don't know. Listen,
Speaker 1: it happens, and I'll give you this. I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you this.
Speaker 2: You know. In the nineties, in the late nineties, early
Speaker 2: two thousands, I was a very big fan of AUTI
Speaker 2: different go I still am you love Annie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Annie. I sometimes you.
Speaker 2: Don't meet your heroes, but I like, there was a small,
Speaker 2: little like festival she was playing, and there was not
Speaker 2: that many people there, although it was kind of a
Speaker 2: big deal because for some reason Bruce Springsteen showed up. Oh,
Speaker 2: but there really weren't that many people there, and people
Speaker 2: didn't really know who Annie was. I mean they knew,
Speaker 2: you know, she had her fans, but she certainly was
Speaker 2: not famous. And before the thing, we happened to be
Speaker 2: getting out of a car at the same time, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Annie, I'm here for you. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm such a fan, and she was like, uh huh.
Speaker 2: She was really mean to me. I mean really like,
Speaker 2: maybe she was having a bad day. Maybe she's anger.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is I'm saying Kyle as well, maybe she's
Speaker 2: anxious about people that she doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Some people are like that or some people are just assholes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like I didn't. I don't think that Kyle
Speaker 1: was an asshole. I think she was just like not
Speaker 1: wanting to engage.
Speaker 2: Oh, I understand, and I'm not saying that makes her
Speaker 2: an asshole. I just got a vibe at this party
Speaker 2: that she was just being judgy. She just has a
Speaker 2: like look you up and down. Not that vander Palm,
Speaker 2: for example, doesn't have a worse version of that. They're
Speaker 2: all kind of assholes, but Kyle is no different.
Speaker 1: Also, keep in mind that Kyle has a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to ride this hard for Kyle, but
Speaker 1: she's going into a situation she already feels awkward. She
Speaker 1: already knows she's going to have to deal with Dread
Speaker 1: who she has not spoken to since the reunion, and
Speaker 1: she's feeling awkward about the whole night. That's that's fair,
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know. I don't think she
Speaker 1: adores Sutton either, so this is kind of like.
Speaker 2: Work for her, right she recognize her to the help.
Speaker 2: I just noticed. I just thought she was there's just
Speaker 2: there was just a little and maybe it was an edit,
Speaker 2: an editing problem, or an editing issue. Maybe they are
Speaker 2: trying to make her look a certain way, but I
Speaker 2: just something I saw now, Like, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: she's not gorgeous or a great mom. She's all those things.
Speaker 2: She could be the best of them, but the way
Speaker 2: she's being edited is not great. I'll just say that,
Speaker 2: and we'll see. It's too soon to t oh, we'll
Speaker 2: see the season. Yeah, I guess I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing the bad edit yet. I believe you that. That's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting that that same feeling got you. That's okay,
Speaker 2: And that's and now we have the big question, which
Speaker 2: is what up with Morgan, because let's not forget all
Speaker 2: of last season she had a new she had a
Speaker 2: girlfriend named Morgan Wade, which I guess that didn't work
Speaker 2: out because Garcela asks her about it and this kind
Speaker 2: of was this kind of made me laugh.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, it was too much for Morgan.
Speaker 2: She didn't like that much attention, basically saying the relationship
Speaker 2: didn't work out because all eyes were on them. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but then Garcel's, well that video didn't help. Let's not
Speaker 2: forget that. Fuckain, that's not that's not.
Speaker 1: What that was. Actually, that's not what that lot line
Speaker 1: in the show is about. She's saying. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, whatever have you been or whatever, And
Speaker 1: then she says, oh, well, you know there was a
Speaker 1: thing with a with a with a woman whose name
Speaker 1: I won't mention it. And that's when Garcela's like, well
Speaker 1: we all fuck it too camera. She's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: all know who it is, right, we all hung out.
Speaker 1: She was in the season. Yeah, she was. You brought
Speaker 1: her up all the time, Like, now you're not going
Speaker 1: to like say who it is?
Speaker 2: No, she meant the video, she says, the video didn't help.
Speaker 2: She meant, I don't think she.
Speaker 1: Well, she's saying that there was so much speculation about
Speaker 1: her sexuality that she didn't like.
Speaker 2: Right, and the video didn't help. Kyle made a video
Speaker 2: with her where she's they were like having sex. It
Speaker 2: was like a music video that Kyle was in. So
Speaker 2: if you if you guys, don't, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 2: it's it's not that it's none of our business or
Speaker 2: our business. You're on a reality show, you have a
Speaker 2: new girlfriend. I think it's awesome that she did that.
Speaker 2: I think it's great she had a girlfriend and she
Speaker 2: was exploring her sexuality, and she can talk about it
Speaker 2: as little or as like she doesn't have to talk
Speaker 2: about it at all, or she can tell us everything.
Speaker 2: We're all down for it and we support that. However,
Speaker 2: Garcela is saying, yeah, you made like a weird sex
Speaker 2: deo with her that you guys put out on the internet.
Speaker 2: Not a sex tape, but they made like this really
Speaker 2: cheesy music video, and it's like, Okay, you kind of helped.
Speaker 2: You can't blame the paparazzi and the tabloids for making
Speaker 2: it too much, like putting too much out there when
Speaker 2: you did it, That's what girls said.
Speaker 1: Garcel is saying, and I agree. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if Kyle knew how much attention that was going to get. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, it was probably a bad move,
Speaker 1: and maybe she was like who knows, really excited, not
Speaker 1: all the time. It all blew up right right. It
Speaker 1: was not Kyle's fault.
Speaker 2: I mean, Morgan agreed to do that, so Morgan can't
Speaker 2: be mad at But whatever reason, it's either not working
Speaker 2: out or they just want it to be really private.
Speaker 2: I assume it didn't work out. I mean, she was
Speaker 2: freshly divorced, not even divorced, freshly separated, totally figuring out
Speaker 2: her life, and Morgan is, you know, half her age.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is Morgan's life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure what's happening, but I
Speaker 1: think for definitely she's trying to now have her life
Speaker 1: be her life. I thought the whole thing was a
Speaker 1: little bit weird because she was saying stuff without saying it,
Speaker 1: and it felt like it was like, okay, so are
Speaker 1: you saying because she's like, yeah, well, the media puts
Speaker 1: so much attention on it that I eventually I was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I am feeling certain kind of way about women.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I get it that you don't want
Speaker 1: to like you're you're not saying you're coming out as gay,
Speaker 1: and that's of course her prerogative. But it was a
Speaker 1: little weird because then they're all like, okay, so you're
Speaker 1: saying hey, because Garcela goes well, even just the fact
Speaker 1: that you're saying it is like really big. She's like yeah,
Speaker 1: she says she didn't say anything.
Speaker 2: Right, but they kind of she's sort of saying it
Speaker 2: without saying it in a way right.
Speaker 1: But and then she's also saying like which I thought
Speaker 1: was kind of bad for our freaking day and age,
Speaker 1: like that were so obsessed with people's sexuality, which is
Speaker 1: a problem. And then she's saying like, well, I felt
Speaker 1: like I was going to be embarrassed, like if my
Speaker 1: kids found out that, you know, ye what I was doing,
Speaker 1: like that they were going to be embarrassed about me.
Speaker 1: And I loved when she said that. She kind of
Speaker 1: told Porscha and Portia goes, I don't you could never
Speaker 1: do anything or say anything that would make us love
Speaker 1: you less. And I was like, that was really sort
Speaker 1: of crying. I like that.
Speaker 2: And when she said I've never felt, you know, more
Speaker 2: proud as a mom, like she raised this really great kid,
Speaker 2: and she raised really good kids.
Speaker 1: She's a good mom. I agreed with that.
Speaker 2: I think Garcel's point, though, again, isn't her about her sexuality.
Speaker 2: It's saying like, you can't blame, can't be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's too much scrutiny, and then make that She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sexy video you made didn't help. If you don't
Speaker 2: want people to talk about it, you've done this thing.
Speaker 1: And I think Garcel loves to talk about other people
Speaker 1: and you know what they're put out there when Garcel
Speaker 1: gives nothing of herself on the show. And yet it
Speaker 1: is so fucking judgmental of like, well, you know, if
Speaker 1: you don't want people to say you're gay, then don't
Speaker 1: act gay or whatever. It's like who you're She's actually
Speaker 1: bringing something to the show. She's trying to live her
Speaker 1: life on the show, and you're not true? That true?
Speaker 1: That true that she makes a lot of really snide
Speaker 1: comments Garcel, And sure you like that. Do we appreciate
Speaker 1: that on a show? Yeah, but like also brings something
Speaker 1: then to the table side straws a lot. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of side strawing in her little confessionals. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you.
Speaker 2: The only person everybody, all, this whole cast is pretty
Speaker 2: They all talk shit, no one's to be trusted except
Speaker 2: maybe Erica. Is Erica so far the only one that
Speaker 2: doesn't really talk shit about each other, Like she just
Speaker 2: takes it all in and listens. So far, she really
Speaker 2: hasn't been she hasn't really been stirring it up. But
Speaker 2: that's so far. I had the exact same thought. I
Speaker 2: was like, is Erica Jane the only real friend is
Speaker 2: she the only person I would confide in in.
Speaker 1: This whole group?
Speaker 2: I think so at this point, yes, now we're almost done,
Speaker 2: but let's not ever forget that Kathy shows up in
Speaker 2: a Missus Roper mumu, you know, surrealist ball. She just
Speaker 2: with all these crazy extensions that she has a hot flash,
Speaker 2: so she has to take her extensions out and she
Speaker 2: just starts tearing them out of her head.
Speaker 1: But also, what is she wearing. She's wearing a bloomoo
Speaker 1: I know, but why it's not a costume. It's like
Speaker 1: she was home getting ready in that dressing gown and
Speaker 1: was like, I'll just go to the party. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of well, missus Roper was very surrealist. I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: And then she meets my friend Bo's and is like, no,
Speaker 2: it's Boss. She's trying to make a joke and it's
Speaker 2: nice to meet Boss. She's like, I know who you are.
Speaker 1: And Boz herself is like Bose herself is like no,
Speaker 1: it's Bos. And then everyone's like yeah, it's Bos and
Speaker 1: she's like nah, she's that.
Speaker 2: She just starts point out her extension and I thought
Speaker 2: Bos was being very funny. He's like we're at a
Speaker 2: ball sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, are you taking your hair out?
Speaker 2: And she's like, I have never because even if my
Speaker 2: wig is a little I will just hold my wig up.
Speaker 1: I'll just hold it the whole time. I have never
Speaker 1: seen anyone do.
Speaker 2: And that it just shows it just like cuts to
Speaker 2: her extension, sitting in its own little chair. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kathy is just out of her freaking mind. I know
Speaker 2: that's part of the charm. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I don't find it charming though, especially this shit we
Speaker 1: know about her. She uses the F word, oh, and
Speaker 1: the horrible and the N word. She's terrible person.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, just we all just pretend she's not. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think she's terrible, and everybody just pretends, which is why
Speaker 1: you're saying that we miss Renna, because Renna was like,
Speaker 1: can we all stop pretending that Kathy is something she's not?
Speaker 2: That is so true and Renna would never say that.
Speaker 2: Renna doesn't say anything that's like anti LGBT or a bacist. Like,
Speaker 2: why why did we turn on Rena so hard? I
Speaker 2: feel like I never really did, but everyone else did not.
Speaker 2: Just yet she was a little crazy, Okay, I'm forgetting.
Speaker 2: Our memory gets short because you know, each one's worse
Speaker 2: than the next.
Speaker 1: She really really mean and would like scream at people
Speaker 1: and you and I. That's right. She would go crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was pretty awful. She screamed. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: yelled at everybody and she was and she was another
Speaker 1: one that was like you're an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And then her lips.
Speaker 2: Now I'm remembering, like the squinty eyes and the big
Speaker 2: lips like, we don't, we don't need that back. No,
Speaker 2: we don't, we don't. We can do better. So now
Speaker 2: Kyle is going to have her big conversation I guess
Speaker 2: with Dert. Yeah, yes, they pull one of them pulls
Speaker 2: the other. First, let's never forget yellow Cat. Oh shit,
Speaker 2: I wrote that down and I Yellow Cat, who I
Speaker 2: didn't understand was she doing?
Speaker 1: She was doing Erica's songs so they know each other.
Speaker 1: Was that Erica's song? Yes, she was doing Pat the Puss. Oh.
Speaker 1: I thought she was just doing another like a pussy song.
Speaker 2: I believe she was doing Pat the Puss because Erica
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it wasn't, but I thought she was.
Speaker 2: I think they knew someone that says like, these two
Speaker 2: I think know each other, because Eric is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I always find her really annoying. But I mean I
Speaker 2: didn't hate this. Yeah, I think they I think they
Speaker 2: cross paths. I think it's her nemesis. Interesting, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: look Kat okay. So yeah, Kyle. Uh. Once she first
Speaker 2: kind of says she's like, yeah, sorry about you know,
Speaker 2: your PK split. If I were Durid, I'd be so
Speaker 2: mad in that moment. Yeah, Like okay, so, but you
Speaker 2: texted him? Why why would she text PK at all?
Speaker 2: I think the Vians M well that I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that's so rude. She's been friends with Duri forever.
Speaker 2: I think that's just awful. Even if they're in a fight,
Speaker 2: what are they in a fight about exact? I still
Speaker 2: don't really understand why she's so mad at Duri.
Speaker 1: I don't m it. Well, Okay, I could be totally
Speaker 1: wrong here and about the beginning of it, but I
Speaker 1: do think that Deree was talking a lot about Kyle's
Speaker 1: marriage and they weren't. Dereet was upset and this came
Speaker 1: up on the reunion that Kyle wasn't coming to Deree
Speaker 1: to talk to her more about her split with Mauricio,
Speaker 1: and Durreek kept saying like, but we're such good friends,
Speaker 1: and Kyle was like, I and remember that Kyle was
Speaker 1: starting to be healthy and be sober and going for
Speaker 1: like walks with her other friends. And then Dereete was
Speaker 1: getting salty because Kyle wasn't like inviting her to go
Speaker 1: on to ten mile hike, and Duritte's whole thing was like,
Speaker 1: we're such good friends, and Kyle's like, but we're not
Speaker 1: though we're not like best friends, like I have a
Speaker 1: right to not come to you with stuff like I
Speaker 1: have other friends. And then Duritz started to get her
Speaker 1: feelings really hurt about how no, we're such good friends,
Speaker 1: and then Kyle basically sent her that text Kyle was
Speaker 1: under the gun at the last reunion. Everybody's mad at
Speaker 1: her and they were coming at her for all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. And then Kyle sent dreat the text which
Speaker 1: so I'm on her side during this, which was basically
Speaker 1: like can we not bring up like can we not
Speaker 1: out a bunch of stuff that you know that I
Speaker 1: did confide in you? And then Derete was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be silenced I'll say whenever the buck
Speaker 1: I want. It's all because she's salty about thinking that
Speaker 1: they're better friends.
Speaker 2: Okay, I totally hear all that, and it makes sense
Speaker 2: the way the way you put it, It totally makes sense.
Speaker 2: But I just can I push back one more time.
Speaker 2: I still feel and we're not going to fight you
Speaker 2: and I aren't going to We're not on the show.
Speaker 2: We just have we just watch and have write down
Speaker 2: our thoughts. It's like a Rorshac test, but not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Kyle has done this so
Speaker 2: many times. Like I said, I'm starting to really question.
Speaker 2: She had the same problem with vander Pump. She's had
Speaker 2: the same problem with her sisters. Whether it's now I
Speaker 2: know Kim is not a reliable narrator, I see that,
Speaker 2: but she had the same problem with her. Then she
Speaker 2: had the problem with Kathy. I how did she have
Speaker 2: that problem with Kim? Well, she had issues I guess
Speaker 2: with Kim where she Kim is horrible alcoholic, yes, but
Speaker 2: she supporting her.
Speaker 1: After years of having to clean up Kim's messes, but
Speaker 1: maybe feels about pique.
Speaker 2: To be fair, if we're really going to say that
Speaker 2: that Kyle is okay, to sit there and say you're
Speaker 2: an alcoholic in the thing, which she did first season
Speaker 2: maybe durit feels like she was picking up that, like
Speaker 2: everybody's got a version of that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I feel like Kyle has issues with
Speaker 2: people all the time, and it always comes back to
Speaker 2: she's either outing their shit but not her own, or
Speaker 2: she's trying to control some sort of narrative, which is
Speaker 2: what she claimed Lisa did, and that's why Lisa's like, no, bitch,
Speaker 2: that's what you did that.
Speaker 1: So that was the goodbye Kyle, like that said, I'm done.
Speaker 2: You are so full of shit, And I'm starting to think,
Speaker 2: like maybe it's true, but because everyone's sort of saying,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hello, Kyle, if.
Speaker 1: She called me, if she wants to hang out, I'll
Speaker 1: hang out with her.
Speaker 2: I mean she's cool, she's everybody looks stunning.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, Well, I told you
Speaker 1: before we started that I was going to have a
Speaker 1: different opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, she hasn't done anything terrible, though, I think it's okay.
Speaker 2: Like I'm maybe maybe I'm being weirdly sensitive and like
Speaker 2: I said, maybe I'm being really swayed by what I
Speaker 2: think is kind of a weird edit edit, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't say that word. I don't know. Like something
Speaker 1: they know about me is I'm more of like a
Speaker 1: person who thinks for myself. But like not everybody can
Speaker 1: think for themselves. Like some people are just going to
Speaker 1: be more swayed, you know, by what they're told to believe,
Speaker 1: and like that's just not.
Speaker 2: Me, right. One thing to know about me, though, is
Speaker 2: that I'm just such an EmPATH, so I can tell
Speaker 2: when people are mean to the help uh huh, and.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Now that's just me.
Speaker 2: Now, not everybody feels like that. I just think you
Speaker 2: should be really nice to the you know, the guy
Speaker 2: with the puppet, the guy with the monkey puppet. Like
Speaker 2: he's just trying to live his life. He didn't choose this,
Speaker 2: This wasn't his first he wanted to be a writer.
Speaker 1: He well, we don't know, maybe he did choose this life.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna fit.
Speaker 2: We're so I mean this, you know, this is the
Speaker 2: beginning so much it's going to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically, Kyle, they they're talking and Kyle's like,
Speaker 1: sorry about PK or whatever. I know, we both have
Speaker 1: a lot of feelings going on. And this is where
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm on Kyle's side. She's trying to
Speaker 1: be calm, and she's like, and I think you're upset
Speaker 1: about what I said on Amazon Live, which what she
Speaker 1: had said on Amazon Live was like we're Deurit is
Speaker 1: carrying on this narrative that we're like best friends and
Speaker 1: we're not. We've like maybe traveled together once or twice,
Speaker 1: and like we don't go to lunch or hang out,
Speaker 1: which I do feel like Kyle has a right to
Speaker 1: be like, some of these people are show friends and
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And the cast comes in and out,
Speaker 1: and yes, I get together with them and we're friends,
Speaker 1: but that's not my best friend. I have another argument. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so then I agree. Due it's like, well, that's just
Speaker 1: the straw that broke the camel's back. And meanwhile, Jennifer
Speaker 1: Tilly is like, I'm trying to listen in I have
Speaker 1: a ear piece, Sutton want to see it. Sutton's trying
Speaker 1: to listen in Duri. It's like, no, that was just
Speaker 1: the final straw. I got tired of being pushed around
Speaker 1: and used and abused by you, and which is like
Speaker 1: a lot you're doing too much to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that. I don't
Speaker 2: know how she was in any way abused.
Speaker 1: Exactly because Kyle's was like, we're not the friends that
Speaker 1: you think we are. Sorry, And then and then Kyle's like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna just get crazy and aggressive or whatever,
Speaker 1: and Durie it's like, I'm sick of your shit, and
Speaker 1: Kyle's just like, okay, I don't why are you acting?
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? If I'm Kyle, I'm probably
Speaker 1: feeling the same way, like we're at a party. Really,
Speaker 1: you're just good. We can't have a civil conversation.
Speaker 2: But I think that Kyle's manipulative, and so she wants
Speaker 2: to have that conversation on the thing. I think she
Speaker 2: does this and gets people all rap, you know, riled up,
Speaker 2: and then acts like why are you acting like this?
Speaker 1: Oh? I thinks manipulative. I think dereating. I'm just really
Speaker 1: good friends with Kathy. Sorry, Kyle, Sorry that when you
Speaker 1: were having real problems with your sister, I didn't side
Speaker 1: with you. That's not a good friend either.
Speaker 2: You're right about that. I think they both are because
Speaker 2: no one's good friends with Kathy? What is Kathy even?
Speaker 1: Right? So why are these people going hard for Kathy?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Why is dere like? But Kathy and I are such
Speaker 1: good friends. No, you're not, girl. You went to her house,
Speaker 1: she barely acknowledged your existence and then made fun of
Speaker 1: you to her sister getting ready for the party.
Speaker 2: Right. You know what this you know what this season needs.
Speaker 2: It needs a little it needs a little Heather to
Speaker 2: bro because we all we've talked about this for two
Speaker 2: years now. I'm like, well, Heather's leaving the OC. Obviously
Speaker 2: she's got to be. She moved to Beverly Hills literally, yep,
Speaker 2: she should, she should be on the show. But how
Speaker 2: would she fit in? I guess at this point who
Speaker 2: would she sided?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: Oh she's friends with Sutton for some reason. Oh no,
Speaker 2: remember I don't need that. Yeah, no, that would Oh god,
Speaker 2: Heather suffers fools too easily. I don't like that. I
Speaker 2: don't understand that, because Heather's better than that. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I'm bringing her into it, But it was
Speaker 2: I think it was quite the I thought it was
Speaker 2: quite the premiere.
Speaker 1: It really was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It did bring it. I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: it is real, though I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: it is. Like, you know, they all still want to
Speaker 1: stay on the show. Well, sure, we're going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of Kyle going, oh, I can't deal with this.
Speaker 1: Well you went back on the show. You know how
Speaker 1: all these people feel about you.
Speaker 2: And she doesn't need to because she's got a lot
Speaker 2: of money out of Marisa. I mean there, she's fine, right,
Speaker 2: they've got she's good for life, right, she kids are
Speaker 2: going to be TV. Yeah, she's going to be selling something.
Speaker 2: There'll be some know whatever she wants to push, right,
Speaker 2: I get hat the puss girl.
Speaker 1: Yep, hat the pussy mm hmmm. All right, everybody, We
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in, and uh we will
Speaker 1: be back every week with this show. Yes, and we'll
Speaker 1: not forget it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't yeah for housewives and should I should we
Speaker 2: plug the other thing? We're going to look into what
Speaker 2: I'm forcing Stephanie.
Speaker 1: Oh uh huh.
Speaker 2: We're going to listen to if you are following us
Speaker 2: on ninety day the other way, which you should be,
Speaker 2: because now it's just gotten good after twenty one episodes.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a listen to Statler's podcast and
Speaker 2: we're going to do a special report because I mean
Speaker 2: Statler gets to talk. Yes, if I have any to
Speaker 2: do with it.
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it out already?
Speaker 2: I think, so she keeps acting like it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's not out when it's out,
Speaker 2: and I will be letting you guys know. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna we're on it.
Speaker 1: But our girl Statler is very seriously like acting up
Speaker 1: on social media.
Speaker 2: He's got some stuff going on around Insta. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we're gonna we'll cover all that, all of it. Mm
Speaker 2: hmm okay, all right, thanks every all right, bye, goodbye,
Speaker 2: Kyle