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<v Speaker 1>H M. Welcome back to the Telosive Tech Podcast, Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. Hi Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick was here. You just missed him, Randy, I was

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<v Speaker 2>star linking.

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<v Speaker 3>I apologize.

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<v Speaker 4>I was frozen starlink.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that when we're there, It's.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a verb introverbal like Google lean. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>so we uh, I think we should just sit the

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<v Speaker 4>ground running with this one. Obviously, question before I do,

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<v Speaker 4>because Mike doesn't know what I'm there's hidden layers here

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<v Speaker 4>is this episode going out tomorrow on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So then, so I kind of, I low key little

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<v Speaker 4>bit but with intention, trolled Drew and on Twitter. But

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<v Speaker 4>there was a reason for this, and I have a

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<v Speaker 4>very strong and if I'm wrong, he'll probably troll me

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<v Speaker 4>right now, tell me I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though I'm right, I have a feeling him and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Are about to say the exact same things. I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>surprised you said some stuff that made me say some

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and what well, anyway, so Drew believes as of

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<v Speaker 4>this episode going out, he believes that people are going

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<v Speaker 4>to unsub from his channel, and he understands and I

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<v Speaker 4>think people are going to unsub from.

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<v Speaker 3>My channel, to which I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>So today is the last day, and I really the

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<v Speaker 4>reason why I want to record this morning is because

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<v Speaker 4>today's the last day we can physically possibly talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the iPhone sixteen Pro.

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<v Speaker 2>This man has no I could be a fourteen Pro.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have no idea, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does look a lot like my phone I'm

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<v Speaker 2>staring at right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It does look like it.

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<v Speaker 4>So starting with Drew, I just need to ask right

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<v Speaker 4>from the offset. I know, as recording it hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 4>out yet, but what are your final sixteen Pro? What's

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<v Speaker 4>your takeaway?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me switch to it here?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you how I can't do any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just checked. I saw if the option was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was there. I don't know what changed. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't restart all right computer.

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<v Speaker 2>For background information, we've had a lack of a time

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<v Speaker 2>with the people who are on the newer iOS versions

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<v Speaker 2>trying to connect their phones to the stream yard. Okay, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>I have an upgrade and it's perfectly working great without it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike is so proud iOS seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm staying at iOS seventeen and mac os whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The iPhone sixteen series is disappointing through and through in

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<v Speaker 1>every way, shape and form. Oh wow, no one should buy.

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<v Speaker 4>It, Drew verbatim in my video that's gonna go out

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<v Speaker 4>today when I finish editing it. I cannot recommend this

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<v Speaker 4>phone to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I need to buy this phone.

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<v Speaker 1>This I likes, like I've order it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, you guys were saying the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same thing about the fourteen Pro and I got it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've had nothing but experiences the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, there's something No, there's something so wrong about

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<v Speaker 4>this is different, this is bad, this is terrible. My gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is the worst phone I have ever used.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you taking your words back about Drew joining the

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<v Speaker 2>Pixel Club?

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<v Speaker 1>You used an Android At one point I.

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<v Speaker 4>Touched your Android for a couple of minutes, and I

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<v Speaker 4>would take that experience over what I had to endear

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<v Speaker 4>with the sixteen Pro, who pretty bad. I cannot in

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<v Speaker 4>good conscience, I cannot condone, support, encourage, or recommend anybody

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<v Speaker 4>getting an iPhone sixteen right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we'll start with you have Drew do his thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm I'm very I'm very passionate.

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<v Speaker 2>But and he's like, here's the acts. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>slam it down on the iPhone, but first let's cut

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<v Speaker 2>away for an advertisement with tays that Drew.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called engagement. Mike. You gotta you gotta keep them

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<v Speaker 4>sticking around for the whole show. I just laying it

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<v Speaker 4>all out right now to leave. It's really bad and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Very passionate about this, but in hearing what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, and I will.

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<v Speaker 4>I will give it. And so you guys will.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear from me.

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<v Speaker 4>You are YouTube, you will hear it from me, and

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<v Speaker 4>it will be new to you. But to anyone who

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<v Speaker 4>when this video goes out this or the podcast my

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<v Speaker 4>video hopefully is out later on today. But I'll talk, No,

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead, you go ahead, Drew. What what has been

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<v Speaker 4>the two weeks look like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Name anything? You guys, just say anything about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you keeping the phone?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, say anything anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what I guess everybody knows by now by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they're hearing this. Yes, I am keeping it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's terrible and no one should buy it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, where's your fifteen pro?

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<v Speaker 1>Not in here? Not in this room?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it in the house, Is it with us?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it in the pocket?

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is using it.

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<v Speaker 4>All?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I I didn't think this through. Randy. You're right, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to catch your guys' reaction to all the

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<v Speaker 1>change ups. It's all happening now in real time. All

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<v Speaker 1>has been revealed. But you're you're gonna unsub though. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like what I'm about to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it go.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a sponsored video.

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<v Speaker 4>What's what's what is? I gotta hear it?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, I bent the rules. I went against my thought.

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<v Speaker 1>We lost my he's unsubbed from the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't tell me, tell me I needed there.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'll leave them there.

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<v Speaker 4>You did sponsored video.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you know, Louise was in the market. You

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<v Speaker 1>audio listeners are missing out, Like, as you know, Louise

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<v Speaker 1>was in a need for an upgrade. She was still

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<v Speaker 1>rocking the iPhone ten. It was showing signs of age.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't doing too well. It was struggling to open

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<v Speaker 1>things and getting very slow and everything. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>company that uh sent me those mags Safe battery modules.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, we really want you to showcase the case

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<v Speaker 1>for the our new cases for the iPhone sixteen series,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I'm not planning on upgrading to the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone sixteen series. Like I know everything about the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen already. I'm probably not gonna keep it because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a fifteen Pro and it's fine, so I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate a case for a fifteen Pro. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in you sending cases for a phone I don't own.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already got too many phone cases. So they said,

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<v Speaker 1>what if we paid for the phone. We're like, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>send we'll cover the sixteen promacs if you show it

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<v Speaker 1>with our case. And I was weak.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you did? That's literally selling out?

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<v Speaker 1>He did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you ever come for me about sponsorships ever? Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never come for anyone for sponsorships. I just chosen

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<v Speaker 1>not to do them up until recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everyone doesn't do it until they do. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>a virgin anymore. Wow, he lost his sponsorship Virginity.

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<v Speaker 1>You just unsubscribed. I understand everyone. I know, I'm terrible, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You are dropping your sixteen Pro review today, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And everything I'm telling you now is in the video.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all explained and my rationale, my thinking behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it was because especially after the last video

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<v Speaker 1>where I didn't do a sponsored piece for the mag

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<v Speaker 1>Safe battery packs because I just wanted those and they

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<v Speaker 1>sent them to me. But I was like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want payment. I just want to talk about them

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<v Speaker 1>and why they boost the battery. And then a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of comments thought it was sponsored anyway. Yeah, there were

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people that were like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored video, and I was like, well, they're not paying me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly the same as like someone who's being

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<v Speaker 1>fed a script. I'm like, they they gave me complete control.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't give me a script. I still haven't signed

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<v Speaker 1>a contract. They just they covered the price of the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing more than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone's a piece of innocence die today because a long

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<v Speaker 4>time ago that the flood gates are open, and and

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<v Speaker 4>now that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this blood gate, I'm not gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like taking drugs the first hit, It's like, now

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<v Speaker 4>there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what it's like to do drugs? Man?

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<v Speaker 4>I've I had surgery. Leading up to surgery, it felt

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<v Speaker 4>really good to be on morphine.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I thought it was going to go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just like this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, you did a sponsorship, that is, and you did

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<v Speaker 4>it for You did it for monetary gain.

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<v Speaker 3>And by this sense, I mean a phone that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the worst part her phone you don't like. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the part that I'm I get sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>They were no one was going to sponsor me to

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<v Speaker 1>buy an iPhone twelve for three hundreds, which was our back.

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<v Speaker 4>But what you were going to do for oh, for

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<v Speaker 4>for Louis a twelve?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she she didn't want to spend more than three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks on her replacement phone. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that means another lightning iPhone, that means more sharing. I

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<v Speaker 1>separate chargers, separate cables for everywhere, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want her to have Type.

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<v Speaker 2>C Did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What did it cost? Sponsorship?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything?

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<v Speaker 4>Now that you are a dirty, contaminated man, you are

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<v Speaker 4>no longer pure. I checked the car facts. You are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a salvage title.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a salvage title.

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<v Speaker 4>But your damaged goods, your everything.

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<v Speaker 3>We can keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not gonna sand.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say this. I got a leaked screenshot

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<v Speaker 2>of the cases that you're reviewing. And I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>understand why you're You're.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about Instagram, aren't you? Yeah you are his Instagram posts?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you are.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not understanding. But why what I get like

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<v Speaker 2>you're jumping in just like drugs? But did you really

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<v Speaker 2>have to go that hard that there's now a big

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<v Speaker 2>lighter built into your iPhone sixteen case a Snoop dog

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<v Speaker 2>and Martha Stewart.

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<v Speaker 1>I was Snoop DOGG getting in everything don't get and what.

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<v Speaker 4>Up home slash Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like Camra control.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, all that being said, I will look at you

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<v Speaker 4>differently now, but to be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it's it's already looking very differently right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's him, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate your laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you never find peace.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be never any piece you're supposed to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we weren't fact checking.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, Oh, Mike, I gotta tell you something. I

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<v Speaker 4>Did you tell him?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Mike, you can't convince me that you don't that

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<v Speaker 4>you're not jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not what you talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because we have the same I.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, I sent Drew a text. They're into the debate,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just said, you can't convince me that's not Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen you two in the same room together,

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<v Speaker 5>so it is. I just texted the group chat. I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen you do this exact stare. I've seen you do

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<v Speaker 5>this exact look.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Mike, that's you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't tell me that's not you. So I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so you're saying collectively, you have you do Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and he does perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why he's always running together. We're running together because

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<v Speaker 4>he can't make it.

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<v Speaker 2>If he supports me.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be I don't. I don't know you're You're

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<v Speaker 4>just I look at you differently. That's my If you're

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<v Speaker 4>watching on YouTube, stop what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have us in the background, look at this

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>JD. Vance and Mike are the same person. I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>Mike do this exact look, this is why.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh wait here go the other way?

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<v Speaker 4>And JD. Vans are the same person. That is That

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<v Speaker 4>is gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't gone gray yet, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's guy. So you can look like you're more

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<v Speaker 4>seasoned than you're ready to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Mike is what JD wishes. He looked like, that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't wish that, but thanks for thinking that he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what he's thinking, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, yeah right, well okay, anyway, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we got that out of the way, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we got that out of the way, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>attacking me. That's fine, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just that you did it for a phone. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't like tell him to like just do the fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>pro maat They wouldn't know the difference. Nobody knows the difference.

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<v Speaker 4>They wouldn't know. All right, I'll talk about my part now.

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<v Speaker 4>The iPhone sixteen is the most incomplete phone that Apple's

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<v Speaker 4>ever put out there, and it's not even close unless

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<v Speaker 4>you're willing to do a beta, which I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>recommend people do. You don't even get any of the

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<v Speaker 4>headlining features. I thought last year, like, how could it

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<v Speaker 4>get weirder than the headlining feature is titanium, but at

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<v Speaker 4>least titanium game day one, whereas like the headline feature

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<v Speaker 4>is Apple tell and now and now the headline is

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<v Speaker 4>Everything's Apple. Every time I go to the store and

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<v Speaker 4>I see the ring, I'm like this isn't this, This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't a feature yet, this isn't even the animation yet.

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<v Speaker 4>And at best case scenario in America, we'll get it

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<v Speaker 4>this month, but everywhere else next year, and even then,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever we get this month is it's not the full thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Just pardon my but it just pisses me off because

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<v Speaker 4>now by the time we theoretically get everything next year,

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<v Speaker 4>how long into the cycle have we already been into

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<v Speaker 4>iPhone sixteen by that point half a year? And some

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<v Speaker 4>people who upgrade it just to get these features, only

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<v Speaker 4>to then be pressured and prompt especially for the techies

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<v Speaker 4>who can do the upgrade again for the seventeen. This

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<v Speaker 4>is worse than what I saw with iPhone fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not even close.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because at least I because iPhone fourteen gave you

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<v Speaker 4>everything at launched. Still it was just an upgrade cycle

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<v Speaker 4>that didn't need to happen. But at least I Phone

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen you got everything day one. This one you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be waiting at least six months in America and then

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<v Speaker 4>everything that's rolling out around the world. We got listeners

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<v Speaker 4>in Europe everywhere else like just those guys, they're sol

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<v Speaker 4>They're still waiting for digital wallets and stuff to be

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<v Speaker 4>a thing for their IDs.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they are always behind.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is nothing new to them.

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<v Speaker 3>But for us, like this is worse than the whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I feel software locked now. It's just like everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>software locked. It doesn't matter, It genuinely doesn't matter. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a guy who votes with my dollar, and by

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<v Speaker 4>principle alone, I can't keep this phone and I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to. I can't recommend it to anybody because it's

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<v Speaker 4>not what is It's false advertisement. It's not what the

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<v Speaker 4>advertisement is right now, not in the legal sense that

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<v Speaker 4>it's false advertisement therefore Apple should get sued. But it

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<v Speaker 4>is misleading directly, it's manipulative and all the wrong ways,

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<v Speaker 4>and again, just quite frankly, it pisses me off. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the worst I've seen Apple when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>a product launch. I could stomach iPhone fourteen if somebody

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<v Speaker 4>was coming from a really old model and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really care for many anyway, I totally get why.

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<v Speaker 4>It just for me as like there was nothing new

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<v Speaker 4>introduced in I fel fourteen, but at least you got

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<v Speaker 4>everything that you needed the day that you would pick

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<v Speaker 4>up your phone. You're not getting anything brand new with

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<v Speaker 4>this phone. What a camera control button? That thing freaking sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the worst rushed, half big piece of crap I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever touched. You can't even click to half click down

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<v Speaker 4>to have it auto focus on you, then click it

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<v Speaker 4>again to take a photo. You can't just click it

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<v Speaker 4>to record. The only reason why I would have used

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<v Speaker 4>the button was so I can click to record when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm using the main camera sense sensor. But it's not

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<v Speaker 4>even doing that, and so that's something that might come

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<v Speaker 4>later too. Why is that a software update for camera control?

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<v Speaker 4>It's it was rushed, It's crap. It's a piece of

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<v Speaker 4>it's terrible. It's just the whole thing's terrible. The AI

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<v Speaker 4>is trash, The camera controls trash. The phone for me

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<v Speaker 4>personally extremely uncomfortably hot, more than a way than I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever experienced on the iPhone fifteen Pro when I was

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<v Speaker 4>testing it. It is too hot for me. The bezzels

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<v Speaker 4>are too thin for me. I hate the bezels.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I can't like the thin borders.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do not.

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<v Speaker 4>I have so many excidental input with the meatia. Part

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<v Speaker 4>of my thumb that it actually prevents me from scrolling.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it too until I got a case.

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<v Speaker 4>Until you got Yeah, maybe the case fixes it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be forced.

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<v Speaker 3>To get a case.

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<v Speaker 4>You sell out, but no, So the camera gets extremely

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<v Speaker 4>hot or the whole phone gets extremely hot. The bezels

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<v Speaker 4>are so thin that when I'm at because it's so

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<v Speaker 4>thin in the way I hold the phone, I'm activating

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<v Speaker 4>camera control in the camera app when I'm not trying to,

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<v Speaker 4>and it screws up the whole shot. Anyway, the the

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<v Speaker 4>ultra wide forty eight megapixel letdown no difference. I can

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<v Speaker 4>see difference when I when I zoom in and I

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<v Speaker 4>pixel peep. Not a big deal let down.

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<v Speaker 1>I much rather when you just take a photo is

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<v Speaker 1>still twelve megapixels. I'm still twelve Yeah, I'm like the

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<v Speaker 1>main sensor Wi's up to twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>When there's nothing that's offered to you. Even when I've

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<v Speaker 4>I've took photos in video and everything in ultra wide,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can then see in raw. I took a

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<v Speaker 4>raw photo just to see and even when I punch

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<v Speaker 4>in nothing because it's still like you just said, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a twelve megapixel. It's scaled down and it does nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still noisy, it's still fuzzy, as fuzzy as my

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<v Speaker 4>studio display camera's going right now, which is an ultra wide.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks just like this material this or this like quality.

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<v Speaker 4>So huge letdown, and I just I was expecting more

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<v Speaker 4>things that I did like. I absolutely love the five

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<v Speaker 4>five X telephoto. That's I'm having so much fun with

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<v Speaker 4>that one. I've taken a lot of photos with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I will miss that. And I love the photographic styles,

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<v Speaker 4>the new update of the photographic styles.

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<v Speaker 3>I have so much fun with that.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's I think those are diferent too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm going from the top of my head here

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<v Speaker 4>about the things that I liked and don't like, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think I hit the keynotes. Oh no, here we go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So the things I liked was the five X. I

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<v Speaker 4>liked the different image formats, the jakepeg XL, which is

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<v Speaker 4>the Happle middle ground between doing a raw photo without

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<v Speaker 4>having the taking up too much memory in your storage.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like that. But I like the cool features

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<v Speaker 4>that come with a heat file, like live photos and

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<v Speaker 4>being able to just kind of manipulate the image more

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<v Speaker 4>within on the device. I like using that more and

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<v Speaker 4>I like saving as much space as possible. But for

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<v Speaker 4>what it is, I did like playing with the other

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<v Speaker 4>image formats, and that was more. That's more like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>the four K one twenty cool, but it's so niche.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm indifferent about it. I wouldn't use it all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was cool to have. But whatever like that

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<v Speaker 4>to me didn't really mean much.

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<v Speaker 1>Us yet I was moving to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, the biggest the thing with the negative stuff

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<v Speaker 4>with the audio mics. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I say in my in the video, so I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you guys here I I equed the hell out of

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<v Speaker 4>those things too, to make it sound as best as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>And if anybody can fix audio, it's the producer who

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<v Speaker 4>writes music for a living and knows how to make

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<v Speaker 4>things stand out in a mix. I know audio frequencies.

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<v Speaker 4>I could not save that thing for the life of me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I try it.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounded better not touching the thing, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, well, let me do a side by side,

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<v Speaker 4>But then it sounds exactly the same as one without

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<v Speaker 4>the new studio mics. So I'm like, just stick if

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<v Speaker 4>you're if you're a content creator. Ladies and gentlemen, just

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<v Speaker 4>stick with a dedicated mic because it is so so.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's a software thing. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>it's a software thing that gets fixed because I want

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<v Speaker 4>to like it. I love the idea of it, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The the audio mix.

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<v Speaker 4>Made me like I don't need That was my first

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<v Speaker 4>when using the audio mix. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>need this phone. It serves me no purpose. It was

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<v Speaker 4>everything else without content creation that made me start to

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<v Speaker 4>hate the phone. With all this the accidental inputs. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>if I put a case on it, fine, but then

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<v Speaker 4>you know cases aren't free unless you're a sellout, So

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<v Speaker 4>for me it didn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have to drop money. I have to roast

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<v Speaker 3>you the whole episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to I understand, like I tweeted, I understand, I.

432
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<v Speaker 3>Have to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm speaking for the people, but for all us normies.

434
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<v Speaker 4>You have to pay, so I have to spend more

435
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<v Speaker 4>money to keep me from having accidental inputs. And just

436
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<v Speaker 4>the placement of the Chemera control completely trash all things

437
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<v Speaker 4>that out the iPhone sixteen. There's more. I had six

438
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 4>good things to say about it. Six bad things to

439
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.759
<v Speaker 4>say about it, but the bad are so heavy that

440
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<v Speaker 4>I can't recommend it to anybody. Nobody should get that phone. Well,

441
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<v Speaker 4>I'm coming from an iPhone twelve. Get a fifteen, but

442
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<v Speaker 4>I like promotion. Give him fine fitteen pro for cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>We better post our videos at the same time so

444
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<v Speaker 1>that everybody understands I haven't seen your video and you

445
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen mine, because we have very very uh in

446
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<v Speaker 1>sync opinions on all this.

447
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Which is yeah, minus me doing some cop outs, you know,

448
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 4>ad read, I will tell you that you should still

449
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<v Speaker 4>not get.

450
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<v Speaker 3>This phone and mean it, and I for not for

451
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<v Speaker 3>the time being.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Like I want to tell you what I want is

453
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<v Speaker 4>an base iPhone sixteen again for anything else, just for

454
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<v Speaker 4>the thinner bezels. I would want that.

455
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<v Speaker 7>However, well sucks too and like it's all bad, so

456
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<v Speaker 7>I have to stay with iPhone fifteen, which I'm fine with,

457
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 7>but I'm so disappointed, Like, oh my god, what I

458
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<v Speaker 7>would I would rather go through.

459
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<v Speaker 4>The growing pains of an iPhone fourteen as they're trying

460
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<v Speaker 4>to calibrate these chip you know, skipping a generation. I

461
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<v Speaker 4>would rather go through that every year than whatever the hell,

462
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<v Speaker 4>we just got with iPhones.

463
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<v Speaker 1>This is Mike realizing that after that huge debate we

464
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<v Speaker 1>had a few months ago. Randy's just keeping the fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I am Mike anything, you should be happy. Look

466
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<v Speaker 4>at that.

467
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<v Speaker 3>That's Mike's that's Mike st.

468
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<v Speaker 2>It's working on something better. But yeah, that's not bad.

469
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<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to just keep using the fifteen.

470
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<v Speaker 3>I guess or I would buy.

471
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<v Speaker 4>I would be open minded to finding a fifteen pro maybe,

472
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<v Speaker 4>but at that point, like the money's already paid for,

473
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 4>already bought the thing. I have nothing wrong with the

474
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>phone necessarily. I just didn't want the software locking. But

475
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:06.039
<v Speaker 4>we're all software locked?

476
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<v Speaker 1>What about the burning.

477
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<v Speaker 3>I I pretend I don't see it.

478
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<v Speaker 2>I made this while you're talking about it as well, Randy, Well,

479
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 2>that's it, that's my rant. Yeah jeez. Well, I'm glad

480
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't upgrade. From all the comments I've heard on

481
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>hardware and software from you guys, it doesn't sound like

482
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<v Speaker 2>a fun you're being on Apple's ecosystem for this new version.

483
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<v Speaker 1>I have my own theories, but I'd like to ask

484
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<v Speaker 1>you both, why do you think Apple is so comfortable

485
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>releasing a phone where it's headlining feature. You know, is

486
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this a marketing problem or is this a company problem

487
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 1>that we're getting more and more okay with releasing things

488
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 1>that are unfinished. Is that just like industry wide thing?

489
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Or what do you think is causing this? Wire companies

490
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 1>suddenly okay with releasing hardware without half the features they promised.

491
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<v Speaker 4>Working pressure, peer pressure, that's it.

492
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Could be pure pressure from their peers. No, they're fellow companies,

493
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>like you mean, like other they see the AI going

494
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>on at Google or at Chat GP with Chat GBT,

495
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, we need to we need to catch up,

496
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<v Speaker 1>So let's release the phone even though we haven't figured

497
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<v Speaker 1>out a bunch of the features yet.

498
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<v Speaker 4>Like, okay, I'll explain a little bit further. Everyone has

499
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 4>realized that it's the software that makes the experience more

500
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 4>than anything else, Not titanium, not a five x zoom

501
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 4>out of forty eight megapixel ultra wide. It's the software.

502
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 4>And if everyone else's software even gives the perception of

503
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<v Speaker 4>innovation over Apple, what's left for Apple? You know what

504
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean? Like, at that point, you have you have

505
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 4>everything that looks like it's an Android fund with the customization,

506
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 4>without any of the new Android baked in AI buzz,

507
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>but even I think that's flawed. And those guys are

508
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 4>under weird pressure because of Chat cheeps. Everyone's trying to

509
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 4>be on top because they can't they can't stand not

510
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 4>being perceived as innovating because they're a public company. They

511
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 4>gotta please shareholders annually they have to justify their salaries.

512
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 4>So Apple already gets criticism from a loud minority that

513
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<v Speaker 4>has to do with sixty hurts, Why why you know

514
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that all these other little things that is

515
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 4>hardware based. But they always were like, yeah, but our

516
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>software top notch until an eight, and there's nothing wrong

517
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 4>with the software now. But if you don't look like

518
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.440
<v Speaker 4>you're still innovating on that front, never mind spatial computing

519
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 4>or you know, log formats or whatever the case may be,

520
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 4>just from the experience of it, and it's all.

521
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Through the UI.

522
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 4>If it doesn't look like it's innovating, even just for

523
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 4>the sake of innovation, then you look like you're behind.

524
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:33.759
<v Speaker 4>And Apple is getting more and more competition with software

525
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 4>because of companies like Chat, GPT, and I'm like, everybody's

526
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 4>got some baked in software or AI thing happening, and

527
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 4>the infrastructure is changing because now everything wants to be

528
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>a cloud based or an AI based thing, at least

529
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 4>right now. And it's been like this for two years now,

530
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>because if you think about this, Drew Marquez's video about

531
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Dolly was two years ago. A lot has changed since then.

532
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 4>So much has changed, and then the tech in the

533
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 4>tech sector two years is almost obsolete. After a certain point,

534
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 4>you have to keep moving. So AI has been in

535
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 4>the discussion for over twenty four months, and what has

536
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Apple done to show for it. Nothing, but they did,

537
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 4>but they didn't call it AI machine learning, this computational

538
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 4>photography that, but blah blah blah blah blah blah.

539
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 3>And if you just would have said, now we could

540
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 3>you know the app.

541
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<v Speaker 8>Apple's overall goal, at least how I see it is

542
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 8>they tried to make as much native, first party stock

543
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 8>apps as useful as possible where you don't have to

544
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 8>go download third party apps like the touch up thing

545
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 8>where you can circle something and it goes.

546
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 4>Away or whatever the case is. Now that that can

547
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 4>get rid of more apps that have those features because

548
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 4>now you can just do it in the photos app,

549
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

550
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>If Apple could just do it at.

551
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 4>First part or even system level, then it makes them

552
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 4>competitive because they still have the in house ecosystem. The

553
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>vertical streamline is still happening, so anything they can do

554
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 4>to stay tightly niched in the vertical side of things

555
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 4>is a win for Apple. But when Google comes around

556
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 4>and they start showing how everything is pulling stuff in

557
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 4>and never mind, you know, we know security has never

558
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 4>been like, hey.

559
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 3>It's the most private whatever.

560
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 2>They don't care.

561
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<v Speaker 4>It's like, let me give you the tools and then

562
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 4>you do with it. When Google starts doing it, or

563
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 4>you got Microsoft with earned Surface and the copilot, you

564
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 4>know surface this, who cares if it's bad or not.

565
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 4>It shows that they're doing something drastically new. And Apple's

566
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 4>just sitting there because they only got one product to

567
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 4>launch once a year. They only got one iPhone, they

568
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 4>only got one MacBook Pro to launch once a year.

569
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 4>They don't get the luxury of doing multiple launches a

570
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 4>year of the same product line. You only get to

571
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 4>do it once, so they have to wait a whole

572
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 4>cycle at least twelve months before they can revisit that again.

573
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 4>And then what happens. This happens, it's rushed, it's put together.

574
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I bet they started talking about this maybe a little

575
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 4>over twelve months ago. I don't think AI was ever

576
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 4>in the discussion, clearly because it's still not out. I'll

577
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 4>give them the camera control. I'll say that they were

578
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>talking about that. I mean, the rumors even said that

579
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>was coming, right, So I give it to them on

580
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 4>that that maybe like, hey, we want to make the

581
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 4>camera even better. So I believe that that was an

582
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 4>Apple you know, two year plan. Let's make the camera

583
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 4>even better, let's make the functionality even better.

584
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<v Speaker 3>But within the.

585
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Two years, what happens. AI starts really blowing up. You

586
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 4>see the evaluation of in video just shoot up so crazily.

587
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's crazy because Nancy Pelosi's buying stock. That's

588
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 4>how you know, before it happened, they saw the writing

589
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 4>on the wall. So that's what I mean by peer pressure.

590
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 4>It's that you have a trajectory that's maybe twelve to

591
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>twenty four months out.

592
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>But some things they have to stop, and like we

593
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 3>need a.

594
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 4>Correct course to at least give the illusion that we're trying.

595
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Because let's call it, let's call it what it is.

596
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Apple Vision pro ain't doing all that hot, And I

597
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 4>think they knew that from the get go. But they

598
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 4>thought they had two years to get that established. But

599
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 4>no one's talking about Apple Vision Pro. Everyone's talking about AI,

600
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 4>and that made Apple go holy crap.

601
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 3>So WWDC last year they were like.

602
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's a special computing in the future.

603
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Da da.

604
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 4>All that happened in the back of the in the

605
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes, like holy crap. People are talking more

606
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 4>about this other stuff with CHATCHIBT this and you know,

607
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 4>GPT four blah blah blah blah, Bay and all these

608
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 4>other things and all these other competitors. Sure it's easy

609
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 4>to kill rabbit r one or AI pen. Those things

610
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 4>are just whatever. That's not your threat. It's what Google

611
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 4>and all your other competitors that make phone, Samsung and

612
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 4>how they're implementing the same universal understanding of AI and

613
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Apple's just like spatial computing.

614
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Didn't work.

615
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 4>So that's what I mean by peer pressure.

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00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Hmm okay, how about you, Mike, do you disagree? Do

617
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you have theories more?

618
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>There's somehow made them more angelic with Apple Intelligence and

619
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the Sonoma background and all that for those listening and

620
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 2>not understanding what's being showed on the screen. But it

621
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>does show that Apple seems to be lacking, at least

622
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>with what your guy's opinion is on the most recent

623
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>devices and software and all that. It's lackluster, it's not impressive.

624
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>It leaves a whole lot more on the table that

625
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>could be used or utilized for something else. And so yeah,

626
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 2>yearning for something that's a lot more useful or a

627
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>lot more cohesive, or at least in the way that

628
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Apple puts it is easy to use but also robust

629
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<v Speaker 2>to use. There it doesn't feel glitchy, doesn't feel a tentative.

630
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like a whole bunch of what's it

631
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<v Speaker 2>called particle boards nailed together opening that stays together as

632
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 2>a house. It seems like that's what this year is

633
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 2>somewhat showing behind the dry wall, is that there wasn't

634
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of planning on the wires or on the

635
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 2>insulation or segmenting the rooms for what they've got that

636
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 2>they're building their ecosystem house as. And it does draw

637
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>some concern for me, which is why months ago, when

638
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you were saying I want pixel or I think I

639
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 2>want pixel, I was thinking sure, because that's where I

640
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>think logically and naturally, what people do they jump from

641
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>ecosystem to ecosystem, and yeah, it's a headache, but it's

642
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 2>always nice to try something new out, and especially in

643
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the circumstance where there's a lot of letdowns with the

644
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>hardware and software from Apple this year, it's not a

645
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>terrible time to check out something new. And if you

646
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 2>don't like it, then well, now, you know, go back

647
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 2>to what needs to be improved upon and maybe make

648
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 2>your voice a little bit more heard or I don't know,

649
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>somehow again into some of those QA teams and voice

650
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>your opinion on what they could do better. But it's tough.

651
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>It's tough to watch you guys wane so much in

652
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>your excitement, especially from the event. You guys are pretty

653
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>pumped for what was being shown, but seeing what it

654
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 2>is now and your guys' thoughts on in Drew having

655
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 2>a stooped to the level so low that he has

656
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 2>to do a sponsorship just to keep the sixteen to

657
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 2>give his wife at fifteen because yeah, I'm like lightning

658
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 2>so much. I mean, I can just get attacking because

659
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>lightning isn't that bad. But uh yeah, okay, whatever, it's funny.

660
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I would say that it's a very interesting I mean,

661
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 2>it's always an interesting time in the tech world. But

662
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like we've said in the past, it's becoming a lot

663
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>more abundantly clear that we're hitting a slow climb right now.

664
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<v Speaker 2>It's not a shooting star pretty much. It's we don't

665
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 2>have the much velocity or acceleration right now. We're very

666
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>much cruising and slowing down a lot by air resistance

667
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 2>or water whatever curriculism in comparison that I'm making right now,

668
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be some push for why you want

669
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>this and why we are offering a robust product from

670
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<v Speaker 2>a company like Apple.

671
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 3>I will say this.

672
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 4>Something that like I'm like, ah, I like having a

673
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 4>thunderbolt port on an iPhone because I can plug in

674
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 4>my mic, which requires power to turn on to run

675
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.679
<v Speaker 4>this one. And it only works on a Thunderbolt iPhone,

676
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 4>not a you know, a two dot zho speed It

677
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 4>won't power it. The idea of utilizing the hardware to

678
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.880
<v Speaker 4>its maximum potential excites me, which is why I was

679
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 4>optimistic about the camera control button. But the software is

680
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 4>what dictates how that goes. For example, software is just

681
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 4>crap on camera control. It is what it is. Sometimes

682
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 4>when you plug in your MIC directly into the phone,

683
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 4>you won't know According to Drew, you wouldn't know if

684
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 4>it stopped working or not. And that's a software thing.

685
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 4>There's no indicator of it telling you it's not working anymore.

686
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 4>Where the phone's done recording or whatever the case may be.

687
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 4>That's all software that's causing that.

688
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 3>So everything that.

689
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 4>I have had a let down on had to do

690
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 4>with software. With the exception of me complaining about the

691
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>ultra wide not being that impressive, that's just the limitations

692
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 4>of the sensor itself. So that's hardware. With the exception

693
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 4>of that, everything else is really software based. That's causing

694
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 4>all that to happen, and.

695
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>And it dictates everything. Software is what determines your experience

696
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that I can see. It kind of

697
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 2>weaves into what you're saying before at the USBC as well.

698
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 2>The thing that software doesn't really touches devices that don't

699
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>rely on it as much.

700
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 4>With the audio mix is software. Yeah, worst thing I

701
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 4>could have ever use. Mike, you made a comment to it.

702
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 4>He said it sounds thirteen seconds sound out better than

703
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the video, And I'm like, he's right,

704
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 4>he's right. That was software doing that, because according to them,

705
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 4>the hardware is top not for studio mics like, Oh, well,

706
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 4>I saw what they did with the MacBook. This has

707
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 4>to be great.

708
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Did they get I was gonna make a great edit

709
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>of all of your excitement leading up to the team

710
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of like on the podcast. I think I have all

711
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>the clips, I just haven't assembled it of you being

712
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>excited on the podcast, you being excited in your videos,

713
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and then the video of you being like and here

714
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>we go it's it sounds soul, and then the next one. Sorry, guys,

715
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm out. I can't. I'm just gonna use my mic

716
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>like it's a great compilation of Randy's already hurting enough

717
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know where I'm gonna post anyways and

718
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter anyways. But uh, getting back to it, Yeah,

719
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I do seceed with the whole USBC thing. It is

720
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>nice having one port for all solutions. It's something I'm

721
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>appreciating with my Reobie products is that I've got three

722
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>or four batteries that can go into two or three

723
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>different devices, and I always have one charging and the

724
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 2>battery can be used in those devices without a problem,

725
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 2>where I've got two others that have very unique batteries

726
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>that can't find anything else and so it's slightly the same,

727
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 2>but like being able to have the same port to

728
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>plug into is great. But as I was saying as

729
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>well to you, Randy, with the whole software thing, those

730
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 2>aren't dictated by software, so it doesn't matter for me,

731
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't impact me as much. But being able

732
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to balance hardware and software and offer a robust solution

733
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>is a tough game. And I think Apple's just showing

734
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 2>here with their pushes to be a little bit more relevant,

735
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>has shown that they aren't optimizing as much as they

736
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe should have for their launches for their products.

737
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you know the tech community talks a

738
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 1>lot about like one hundred and twenty hurtz, why isn't

739
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that on the base model? And I understand most consumers

740
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care, but the justification of like, even if they

741
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>don't care, why not at it really came down to cost, right,

742
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like the cost of an LTPO panel that could

743
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 1>do that higher refresh rate wouldn't be justified. But then

744
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 1>they put camera control on the cheapest iPhone and I

745
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's got to be close to the same

746
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>amount of pricing to speck it up a little bit

747
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 1>for one hundred and twenty, and I'm wondering if internally

748
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 1>they were just like, yeah, but one hundred twenty hurtz

749
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't help us sell Apple intelligence features. But camera control

750
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>we can pitch as visual intelligence, Like you need that

751
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 1>button with the only I mean, it's not a button,

752
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you need that feature. You gotta hold that down to

753
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 1>launch visual intelligence, which you can't do on older phones.

754
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I just picture that boardroom meeting

755
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>where they're like, well, let's add camera control, which is

756
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more cost. You know, it's sapphire glass,

757
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>which isn't cheap. It's surrounded with stainless steel, and then

758
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you have to up the IP rating because it's a

759
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 1>physical button, so you have to build it into the chassis.

760
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 1>It complicates everything. Opposed to just swapping out a display,

761
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the phone has to have a display, Like that's not

762
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 1>a part you can remove. But instead of going with

763
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 1>the basic sixty hertz panel, just use the one twenty

764
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>hertz panel that you're already using in the pros. Like,

765
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the argument that the average consumer wouldn't

766
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 1>care about one twenty doesn't work as well when Apple

767
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>starts pushing new hardware features into the base model sixteen,

768
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>because I always looked at it as like, you know,

769
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the base model sixteen, they're just trying to keep as

770
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>cheap as possible so that they still have decent margins

771
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 1>on a lower price. But now that they're doing this,

772
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>they put the A eighteen chip in there almost, you know,

773
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>just as powerful as the A eighteen Pro, just a

774
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>couple less cores. They're throwing camera control in there. I'm like,

775
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 1>they're I don't know, my opinion is they're panicking. It

776
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>almost feels like it's like they're panicking about like halfway

777
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 1>through the development cycle of iPhone sixteen lineup. Whenever that

778
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>took place, they just suddenly went, oh, crap, we don't

779
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>got anything like this is not gonna be a good year.

780
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 1>This is not a substantial upgrade. There's very few changes

781
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that people are gonna care about. And then the marketing

782
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>team was probably just like, yeah, you're not hitting our

783
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>quota for it. We need to talk about this many

784
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>things on a new iPhone, And they're like, what what

785
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>do we got? What can we do? How do we

786
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 1>get people excited? Well, go to the news, everyone's talking

787
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 1>about AI. We have to we have to do more

788
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 1>AI stuff we got to lean into AI. Could we

789
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 1>do one hundred twenty hertz? Yeah? Maybe, But how does

790
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that help us align with the AI stuff? It's like,

791
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I guess it doesn't, but the camera control could because

792
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 1>visual intelligence, And it's like is it ready yet? No,

793
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>But as long as we're talking about it, that means

794
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that plays into the whole marketing of built from the

795
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>ground up for Apple Intelligence. It's like camera control, that's

796
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 1>what it's built for. It's like it's built for it,

797
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and yet at launch it doesn't have it. It's just

798
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, even when it does launch, it's

799
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be just a couple features. It's going to

800
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 1>be like proof read and jen Moji and other stuff.

801
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would care more if I was

802
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>interested in the intelligence features, but all of them seem

803
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 1>really dumb to me, which is why I'm not too

804
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 1>bothered by it. I'm like, I'm just reviewing it as

805
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.639
<v Speaker 1>it is. I don't even want to talk about we'll

806
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>get there. I'm sure we'll make videos about how Apple

807
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence does down the road. But to me, that's the

808
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>vibe I'm getting from Apple is that they are internally

809
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 1>realizing that as a company and a brand. They've kind

810
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of matured all their tech that can't really make it

811
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 1>that much better. Their biggest competitors not Google, it's themselves.

812
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Their biggest threat is last year's iPhone. And that's why

813
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling everybody just go out by a fifteen refurbished

814
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>or renewed. You can several hundred dollars and get a

815
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>near identical experience.

816
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 4>So I appreciated the type to Siri for the beta

817
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I was using. I really liked that because I was

818
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 4>able to in some prompts I forget. I wish I

819
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 4>could remember what I did, but I was able to

820
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 4>drill down, like tap on the thing and open up

821
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 4>another thing, and I can scroll. And then when I

822
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 4>was done, I was able to just swipe up on

823
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.000
<v Speaker 4>the home bar, and it took me right back to

824
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 4>the app I was already in, not the home bar,

825
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 4>It didn't not the home screen, It didn't move me anywhere,

826
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 4>it kept me right around that. I was like, this

827
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 4>is what I wanted. I did. I do simple math

828
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 4>with types of Siri, way better than hope up the

829
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 4>camera app.

830
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 6>Do this.

831
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I would just go twenty five hundred times three or whatever, right,

832
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 4>and I would write the word times.

833
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:47.760
<v Speaker 3>And and just and that was it and give me

834
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<v Speaker 3>the answer.

835
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I was like, okay, I'm just give an example.

836
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<v Speaker 1>But the calculator app keeps throwing me off though because

837
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.679
<v Speaker 1>of the delete key. Yes, I used to be able

838
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to swipe and that yep, I swiped on the number

839
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to delete, and now they've changed it, and I'm like, ah,

840
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm having to relearn everything. But Apple doesn't know how

841
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to live with the fact that a lot of their

842
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>tech that there's there's no way to improve upon it.

843
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Really like they've created a well rounded, well made smartphone

844
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 1>experience and then they have to force themself what what

845
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>can we add to it? What can we do more of?

846
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 1>And it's like nothing.

847
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 4>They make it cheaper ish, Bye bye innovation to them. Now,

848
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 4>well people will you know, people are going to lose

849
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 4>their freaking minds over this is if the iPhone seventeen

850
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 4>base model has promotion. Now all of a sudden, it's

851
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 4>a big deal. Apple's back baby and stock starting the skyrocket.

852
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>And the techies will love it, but not the not

853
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the everyday consumer.

854
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they nobody will know any difference regardless. But for

855
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the sake of saying that we improving on our products.

856
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 4>That's low hanging fruit that they can address at any point,

857
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and they just chose not to. As evident by what

858
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 4>you just said, they rather put money towards a camera

859
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 4>control button than the display panel, which I would say

860
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 4>that the same, the same. The display panel is so

861
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 4>much more cheaper, cost efficient, and you can still what

862
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 4>like these iPhones, they're the base iPhones, aren't actually eight

863
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty dollars American.

864
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>That's that's if you.

865
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 4>That's if you do the the the activation thing with

866
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 4>your carrier. Only in the base models will they say

867
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 4>it's this price. My military discount shows me a base

868
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 4>model for seven and twenty dollars, but it's only seven

869
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty dollars if I activate with T Mobile,

870
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 4>not outright outright it's I think seven to seventy or

871
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 4>something like that. Fifty something like.

872
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they're still doing that all these years later.

873
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Only on the base models, because that's the best selling model,

874
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 4>because it's the japestmore.

875
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought the pros were. I think it's the decoy model.

876
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.320
<v Speaker 1>It's the The job of the base model is to

877
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>make the pros look good.

878
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 3>It's not working.

879
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Though they are pretty that's probably its best feature.

880
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I think the macro mode focused ultra widess. I

881
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 4>was shocked that that came to a base model.

882
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I was happy, but shocked. I was like, wow.

883
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I still think it confuses more people than anything because

884
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 1>then when they hold their phone close to things, it

885
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 1>does that macro switch crops in.

886
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 4>But the base iPhone main sensor here is not the

887
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 4>same depth as the pros and I was reading up

888
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 4>I needed to verify something because to my understanding, the

889
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 4>main sensor the fusion cameras they call it now for

890
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 4>the sixteen Pro, it's the same as fifteen Pro. So

891
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I did by side by side, and sure enough I

892
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.599
<v Speaker 4>was able to get closer on a Base fifteen because

893
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 4>you're you have more room to get closer with it

894
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 4>and still maintain clarity without it getting too out of

895
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 4>focus with it, and with that, it won't trigger the

896
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 4>macro mode if it's If it's not too close and

897
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 4>you're able to get closer, it will still confuse people, yes,

898
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 4>and they won't know why they're getting worse photos for it.

899
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 4>But for what it is, you can get a lot

900
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 4>closer on a base iPhone than are a pro because

901
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 4>the camera sensors on the pros are just they're too big.

902
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 4>There's a certain once you get too much, it's done.

903
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was really hoping I kept the macro mode

904
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 4>on or at least the ability to switch between the lenses,

905
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 4>hoping that the forty eight megapixel wouldn fix that problem.

906
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 4>After I took the photo, and I still look just

907
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 4>as gross. And that's a me problem. But I looked

908
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:04.599
<v Speaker 4>just as gross as I did with any of the

909
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 4>other pros that had that same issue, from what fourteen Pro,

910
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 4>fifteen Pro, and now sixteen Pro it's the same problem.

911
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but now you get two lenses and you

912
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 4>still get those four they treated like four lenses that

913
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 4>you ever met. There four different ones for the costume two.

914
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>The four lenses.

915
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, is

916
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 2>is there actually a macro setting on the zooms on

917
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 2>the sixteen or yes? Okay, I like that now. Yeah,

918
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Before on the fourteen and maybe thirteen or whatever and

919
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>on it was an issue with me where you put it.

920
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 2>To get the quote unquote macro shot, you have to

921
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 2>put it in ultra wide and then get really close.

922
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 2>But that wasn't clear like that was they didn't have Yeah,

923
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 2>like there was that was the pros macro capability on

924
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the pros. But even so they didn't list like here's

925
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>how you get a macro shot in the phone. It

926
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 2>was just you see it online. You're like, how do

927
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I do that? And you have to do all this

928
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>research and then you try doing it phases in and

929
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 2>out and having a nice setting in there that says, hey,

930
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 2>this is dedicated for macro shots. Yes, I appreciate. Even

931
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>though it seems very like this.

932
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Is because it goes off all the time. It still

933
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>does when you're just when you're holding something at a

934
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 1>reasonable distance, it'll still switch over to the ultra wide

935
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and crop in to be like that's more InFocus. That's

936
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the example. My wife was doing the side by

937
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>sides with her iPhone ten and the sixteen promacs, and

938
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 1>she took a picture of a sunflower and the iPhone

939
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ten produced the better image because it was using the

940
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>main sensor in the sixteen was like, oh, this is

941
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 1>too close, So it switched to the ultrawide and then

942
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>crops in and now everything's kind of compressed and there's

943
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>less depth, and it was like, okay, that's that's an

944
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>everyday experience she just went through. Where now this twelve

945
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars phone is performing worse than this seven year

946
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>old life Drew.

947
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Do you on your sixteen pro now? Do you have

948
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.239
<v Speaker 4>the same overheating problem?

949
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel as bad, But I'm wondering if that's

950
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 1>more to do with the size. I can still overheat it,

951
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 1>though I definitely don't think that there's a massive difference

952
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 1>in the thermals. They made it seem like it was

953
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, and I got it to overheat pretty easily.

954
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 1>It didn't overheat to the point of shutting down, but

955
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it did get to the point where it dims the

956
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.599
<v Speaker 1>display and it drops the refresh rate, and I'm like, okay,

957
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.559
<v Speaker 1>so you can still overheat. I still have to be cautious,

958
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:43.119
<v Speaker 1>but I do think like being physically larger probably helps

959
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.320
<v Speaker 1>dissipate because the chip is the same size whether you

960
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.039
<v Speaker 1>get the Pro or the Pro Max, but the heat

961
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 1>sink that's surrounding it is physically larger on the Promax,

962
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So to be fair, there are some things I like

963
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 1>about it. Now that I'm managing social media for so

964
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>many different accounts, Having the bigger screen has been nice.

965
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I like how much information I can read all at

966
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 1>once instead of trying to cram everything on my little screen.

967
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 1>So my use case has changed a bit where a

968
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>smaller phone. As much as I love the convenience and

969
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 1>portability of the mini iPhones, as long as I have

970
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>this current job, having a big phone is pretty useful

971
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 1>with that. But I predict within the next five to

972
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>ten years, I think Apple's going to remove camera control.

973
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be like a three D

974
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>touch thing where they're like, not enough people are using this,

975
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>let's get rid of it. Maybe less than five years,

976
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 1>It'll depend on how the usage data is, but I'm

977
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 1>predicting this is one of those things that's everyday people

978
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>are not going to use, and Apple's going to realize

979
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we're wasting time and money. They don't give up too quickly.

980
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>They like to commit to things for a while. But

981
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>in the same way that no one really used three

982
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>D touch, even though that was a good feature, camera

983
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>control I think is going to turn into one of

984
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>those things that just like, hardly anybody uses and they

985
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:05.039
<v Speaker 1>will get rid of.

986
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 2>That's my Can you still pinch to zoom on the

987
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>sixteen's and sixteen pros or do you have to use

988
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 2>the camera?

989
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course.

990
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, if they force you to use

991
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the camera control button to zoom, then that's a different

992
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>story because then people are going to try to figure

993
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 2>out how zoom and they use it, and then that's

994
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 2>data Apple saying oh, look they used it.

995
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>No one, Yeah, I would return the phone if it

996
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 1>did that. That would be horrible. That would be a

997
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>deal breaker for me. But I've tried to show it

998
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 1>to so many different people on how camera control works,

999
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and no one figured it out. There wasn't a single

1000
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>person in my family who was visiting.

1001
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But we're somehow getting a wider shot of Randy on

1002
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>his phone compared to the camera that he's using. That's hilarious.

1003
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Can see even it was the least intuitive thing I've

1004
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 1>ever seen appleship. I was like, how are they How

1005
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 1>are they okay shipping this like it was So I

1006
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 1>kept trying to explain to people how it worked, and

1007
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.199
<v Speaker 1>they would they would just open the camera and try

1008
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 1>to zoom and it wouldn't work, and I'm like, no,

1009
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to press down lightly, and then they would

1010
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>just do a quick tap.

1011
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Control strewed me. It just did it right now, that's

1012
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 4>the same one to talk about accidental input. Sorry, Mike,

1013
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 4>all right, Drew, keep going.

1014
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I just well not even the accidental intentional input

1015
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 1>is confusing because it's such a small surface. You can't

1016
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 1>do much zooming. Your finger has to turn into this

1017
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 1>inch worm. And even older cameras that had a little

1018
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 1>dial on the top, it was not it didn't work

1019
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that way. You didn't inch like a you know, disposable

1020
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>film camera like refilling the film. No, it was like

1021
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to zoom on an old camcorder, you

1022
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>would like have a little rocker or a dial at

1023
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the top, and you would push it one direction and

1024
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>then it would zoom at a consistent rate, in and out,

1025
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as you let go, it would stop.

1026
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 1>It would snap in place. And that's not what camera

1027
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 1>control does. It's just like your fingers an inch worm,

1028
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's an uncomfortable position. You get way more control

1029
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's way more intuitive to just pinch on the screen,

1030
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 1>which is what everybody's gonna do. And I don't think

1031
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 1>people are going to use visual intelligence even when that ships.

1032
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a very useful feature. It's really

1033
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 1>not any different from Google Lens, which has been available

1034
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>for it feels like a decade it's been around. There's

1035
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>there's ways you can launch an app on your phone

1036
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 1>and have the phone tell you what it's seeing, like

1037
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 1>reviews on what it's looking at. That's that's not a

1038
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 1>new thing. That's not.

1039
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Apple's version of it.

1040
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1041
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 4>I hate camera control, but my action button. Let's play

1042
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 4>a game. What's it map to.

1043
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Mine is still camera because I.

1044
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Mine is camera.

1045
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's faster and easier because you can hold it down.

1046
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 1>You can't hold down camera control to launch the camera.

1047
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>You have to click it in and that's it.

1048
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to click in and then let go.

1049
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.039
<v Speaker 1>But if it's even slower because if the display is off,

1050
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Randy will tell you, yeah, the display is off and

1051
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 1>you press camera control, it just wakes up the display.

1052
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:21.159
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't launch the camera.

1053
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 2>So even though that, at least with my current phone,

1054
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I can just raise it out of my pocket and

1055
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it wakes up with that.

1056
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you can still do race to Wag, but

1057
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>if you just press it once with the display off,

1058
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>which my use case, that came up a lot. Is

1059
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the reason I like the action button. Was that if

1060
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm traveling somewhere or I'm out and about and I

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<v Speaker 1>see something I want to take a picture of really fast,

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00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 1>or I want to take a video it's like a

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00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.039
<v Speaker 1>helicopter flying by or whatever. I'm reaching in my pocket,

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00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel the action button. The display isn't on yet.

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00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I hold down the action button so that by the

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00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 1>time I get here, the camera's already launched. Work with

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01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>camera control because pressing at once just wakes the display.

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01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.960
<v Speaker 1>You have to press it a second time to launch

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01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the camera. And it's not a hole down, it's a

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01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.480
<v Speaker 1>press and release, whereas action button, it's just one motion,

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01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 1>just click down and then it's open. So I still

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01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 1>use the action button for camera all the time, even

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01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>though there some people are like, well, camera control is

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01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>nice because I have a way to launch the camera instantly,

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01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, action button's better at that. Some people

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01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 1>want to use their action button for something else, like

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01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the flashlight. But again, like you've explained, you can. You

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01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 1>can just swipe to the right to launch the camera

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01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>two from the lock screen, or you can press those

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01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 1>little toggles at the bottom. Those those have been around

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01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 1>for seven years now, so yeah, there's no reason to

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01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>buy sixteen. In my opinion, any size, any storage, even

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01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the base model, is not worth it. It's a pretty color,

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01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 1>But you can find an iPhone fifteen for like six

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01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks for furbished now and it'll be ninety five

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01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent the exact same experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So the only thing you don't get on iPhone fifteen

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01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:16.360
<v Speaker 4>that I think is worth anything is the updated photographic styles.

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01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 1>People don't use those to that I use them. I like,

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01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.159
<v Speaker 1>do you use photographic styles on your phone? Mike?

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01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Is that the filters?

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01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, it looks like filters, but Apple tries to convince

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01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you they're not filters. Then no, this is this is

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01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 1>at the core level. It's processed fundamentally maintains skin textures

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01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and tones.

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01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 2>My whole thing is I take a photo with regular

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01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 2>settings as shown here with JD Vance, I guess, and

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01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.679
<v Speaker 2>then later I put in my added things that I

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01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:57.559
<v Speaker 2>want to I don't want to take a picture like this,

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01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.840
<v Speaker 2>weird color shifted.

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01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:03.599
<v Speaker 4>Mike look so vice presidential.

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01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I need image playgrounds to generate an image of Mike.

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01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Somebody asked me if I used that yesterday because I

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01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:19.360
<v Speaker 4>posted there. They said, hey, do you have access to photograph.

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01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 4>What the hell.

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01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Why you were lagging there for a minute? Sorry?

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01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Why, I don't know. Yeah, somebody asked me because I

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01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 4>posted a teaser to something, it's my album. I think

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01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 4>that I think I'll make the announcement.

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01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Today making an album.

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01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it's actually I'm actually announcing the album today.

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01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:42.599
<v Speaker 3>I believe.

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01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm waiting for iTunes to give me the because this

1114
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 4>is going to go up on Saturday. It's going to

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01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 4>be announced you today or tomorrow. So I'm talking about

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01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:50.960
<v Speaker 4>it openly year. But I'm waiting for iTunes to tell

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01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 4>me that the pre saved link is actually live, because

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01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.320
<v Speaker 4>when it is, then I can actually like start to

1119
01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 4>properly promote it. I haven't got that email yet. But

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01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 4>the album is done. And I teased a fake version

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01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 4>of what my what the cover art is going to

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01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:09.639
<v Speaker 4>look like, and so I went and back in March.

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01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 3>I took the emojis.

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01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Of the hands. I took the bubbles emojis and erased

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01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 4>the other bubbles and kept one of them. I took

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01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 4>some stars and I just warped it. This was March, okay, March,

1127
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 4>and so I do it. I'm like, this kind of

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01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 4>looks like my album cover. So I make it, and uh,

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01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.440
<v Speaker 4>I remember things like, man, I wish we could have

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01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:31.840
<v Speaker 4>more control over the emojis.

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01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 3>I need to find out three months later.

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01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 4>There is I need to find out three months later.

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01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 4>That's basically what the image playground or gen moji whatever.

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01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 3>That's what gen moji is is you can.

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01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Kind of manipulate your your things. So that is part

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01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.239
<v Speaker 4>one of my teaser. And then by the time this

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01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.039
<v Speaker 4>goes out, you'll that will reveal to be the actual

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01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:56.199
<v Speaker 4>what the actual cover art is, along with the tide

1139
01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 4>and everything like that. So if I don't make it

1140
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 4>to the deadline, then uh, the podcast YouTubers get a

1141
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:03.679
<v Speaker 4>sneak peek of my cover art.

1142
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, it's yes, that's the.

1143
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Whyrew is not zooming in on it instead.

1144
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, something worry about like to like, I'm not doing it.

1145
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:14.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing it again.

1146
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Zoom. Wow, look at that.

1147
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:19.039
<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing album cover.

1148
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I sent to the group chat what it reminded me

1149
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of but.

1150
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 4>Jem Yeah, but so something I realized that I wanted

1151
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 4>a generative.

1152
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Very similar Uh what there you go? So, but no,

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01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I did not use You don't need moji, Randy, You're

1154
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:57.079
<v Speaker 1>better than that you know that there's another feeling I

1155
01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have that I mentioned in the review video, which is

1156
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>anything that is hyped this high will always be a disappointment.

1157
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no way just from a development standpoint, you

1158
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 1>know that internally Apple is pushing the software team. You know,

1159
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you, guys, have to get this done. You

1160
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 1>have to get it out as soon as possible. When

1161
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.320
<v Speaker 1>there's those kind of stakes and there's that kind of

1162
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 1>pressure coming down from the marketing team and the executives

1163
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at the company that are like, you have to get

1164
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 1>this out, there's no way that it's gonna actually work

1165
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as intended. Like even when they release it to the public,

1166
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 1>even when it's out of beta, technically, it's still gonna

1167
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.239
<v Speaker 1>be rushed. It's still gonna be missing things. It's still

1168
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:42.599
<v Speaker 1>not gonna work as great as Apple says, because the

1169
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:46.239
<v Speaker 1>circumstances leading to its development are just, in my opinion,

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01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it won't succeed. It can't. Like they're already pushing it

1171
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.239
<v Speaker 1>too hard. You're gonna break it, and you're just gonna

1172
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 1>be like deadline, Deadline's coming up, Deadline's coming up. Ship

1173
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Ship chipship, and then it sucks. So true, it don't

1174
01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.800
<v Speaker 1>buy a phone for Apple Intelligence. I don't care.

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01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Why do you have that mindset for this but not

1176
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 4>for ROBOTAXI This is literally what I was saying in

1177
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.519
<v Speaker 4>in the ev podcast, who says, don't you're like it's

1178
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna be controlled by a control like.

1179
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Temper your expens totally different. I think no, I think

1180
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that's totally different. I think FSD driving around a city

1181
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:28.599
<v Speaker 1>block for one minute is way more achievable than what

1182
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is Apple Intelligence even trying to do. We can't. We

1183
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.239
<v Speaker 1>can't even explain.

1184
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 4>Decribe Apple Intelligence and a single sentence go good, very good.

1185
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:53.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll search the web for that as it's gonna be

1186
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 1>asked when it launches. It's finally out of beta. Siri,

1187
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.320
<v Speaker 1>what's my what's my calendar look like? I don't know's.

1188
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:07.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you ask.

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01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you caught Nick's podcast, Randy, but

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01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick was not very impressed. He's running the beta and

1191
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he said the chat GPT is far better than Apple

1192
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence at this point, it's not even close.

1193
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 4>But he, unlike us, is sticking with a sixteen bro.

1194
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 4>I try to talk him out of it, and he's, oh, well,

1195
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 4>you you sold out, so it's different you. Yours is

1196
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 4>paid for. Yeah, you're you're, you're just you're just another

1197
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 4>washed up has been sell out?

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01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Who that's true?

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01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 4>No, that one felt even that one felt too much.

1200
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry that one. That one.

1201
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'd be saying the same thing to you

1202
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:53.000
<v Speaker 1>if you did it.

1203
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:55.559
<v Speaker 4>I know, but that's I'm cooler than I'm nicer than you,

1204
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm better than you, So I can't I feel nicer, Mike,

1205
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 4>you can go straight to.

1206
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:13.239
<v Speaker 9>Debate, which is kind of like hell right, So I

1207
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 9>tell I'll tell you this much because I don't think

1208
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:16.479
<v Speaker 9>he's going to be back anytime soon.

1209
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.359
<v Speaker 4>On the show, he asked we we we.

1210
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Were, uh, you should do one, you should do it

1211
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:23.079
<v Speaker 1>in person.

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01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, we shall see, but I want to week off.

1213
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Please.

1214
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.399
<v Speaker 4>Well we record it this week, so he's here for

1215
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 4>the weekend. That's we're done.

1216
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Do it for next week. You two always have lots

1217
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about.

1218
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 4>And we'll have a lot to talk about while we're

1219
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.840
<v Speaker 4>touching grass. So he wants my phone.

1220
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, why because it has your bank information on it?

1221
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Because it's white.

1222
01:08:58.000 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>No, he said, he likes the black Titan.

1223
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm sorry, Nick, if you're listening to this.

1224
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but.

1225
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:05.880
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's in conversation I have to bring up.

1226
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Now he's straighted. He's already at the Apple story exchanging

1227
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:09.039
<v Speaker 4>his phone.

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01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

1229
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 4>Not only that he hates something happened with his Ultra

1230
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 4>too black.

1231
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh and it gets scuffed. I saw some people reporting. Yeah,

1232
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they took their time on that. Everyone was

1233
01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.600
<v Speaker 1>like a black titanium would scratch too easily, so they

1234
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 1>took an extra year to figure it out. And they

1235
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 1>still didn't figure out. They were like, did you guys

1236
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 1>finish Nope, let's ship it.

1237
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.640
<v Speaker 4>When uh, when he said that happened, he was like,

1238
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I instantly regret this. So he's been He already went

1239
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:39.880
<v Speaker 4>back to the series one Ultra and.

1240
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, everything everything he bought basically has been returned.

1241
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh I don't know. I don't know about two things

1242
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 4>because one wait, he's keeping the sixteen pro Max and

1243
01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:58.119
<v Speaker 4>that's why I told him. I was like, you don't

1244
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:01.159
<v Speaker 4>want my that one. He's he wants the white one

1245
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:04.840
<v Speaker 4>because he wants continuity. If he's not keeping the black

1246
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Ultra to or whatever the series two, then he he

1247
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 4>wants continuity with his line.

1248
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.199
<v Speaker 3>So I thought him, don't take mine?

1249
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how drew question? Speaking of white things? Are you

1250
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 4>did you?

1251
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 1>No? I haven't decided who I'm voting for.

1252
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Well that's good, Yes you have.

1253
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you're you're voting for Mike.

1254
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I know that was running.

1255
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Are you keeping or are you going to keep? What

1256
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:46.479
<v Speaker 4>is your relationship between you and air Pods for?

1257
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Because you're not wearing them?

1258
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're not wearing them.

1259
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

1260
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:56.760
<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with you?

1261
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh? I like saving?

1262
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Could I not sponsor that either?

1263
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Apparently not?

1264
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, that wasn't part of the deal. Also, though, if

1265
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you watch the review, you know that there was a

1266
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 1>deal breaker issue with their pot.

1267
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.159
<v Speaker 4>I saw the dealer, I saw, and I think we

1268
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:17.359
<v Speaker 4>even though about it on the show.

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01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Didn't we the bleed through? I don't remember talking about it,

1270
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, whenever we mentioned it. The the bleed through

1271
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.640
<v Speaker 1>on Airpod's four was particularly bad, to the point where

1272
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:32.439
<v Speaker 1>my wife is driving the car, a Model three from

1273
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:34.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. You know how noisy it is in

1274
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:41.159
<v Speaker 1>those things, and she's going seventy miles per hour. I'm

1275
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:43.800
<v Speaker 1>not blasting music. I didn't like turn up the volume

1276
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 1>as loud as possible. I'm just editing a normal video

1277
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:49.560
<v Speaker 1>at an average like fifty percent volume. She could hear

1278
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.399
<v Speaker 1>it in the car.

1279
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a whole lot of her problem. Sounds

1280
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:55.319
<v Speaker 3>like you've ran in the time of your life.

1281
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:57.119
<v Speaker 4>Sounds like you should have kept those thugs.

1282
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:02.319
<v Speaker 1>To me, that defeats the point of headphones if everybody

1283
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:04.279
<v Speaker 1>can hear what you're listening to. I'm just going to

1284
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 1>use the MacBook speakers anyway. So that's kind of a

1285
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:12.039
<v Speaker 1>deal breaker. But I kind of regret returning them. So

1286
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I did return them, just so we're clear. But as

1287
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.680
<v Speaker 1>soon as I went back to Airpod's pro this morning

1288
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:22.520
<v Speaker 1>or no, we were using them last night for a meeting,

1289
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I want they were kind of dirty, you know how

1290
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.319
<v Speaker 1>AirPods get. I wanted to clean them. So I grabbed

1291
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the rubber seal to like, you know, say it, say it,

1292
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm cleaning the airport, and the rubber part tears again

1293
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:49.640
<v Speaker 1>second time. These are my second pairs, my first pair

1294
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:52.359
<v Speaker 1>of the rubber so I saw it in the process

1295
01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of tearing. It didn't rip all the way off, but

1296
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just like two years later, here we go again,

1297
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and I and I AirPods, you said it, not me.

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01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 9>We were thinking it the moment you went like this,

1299
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 9>you were we were thinking it.

1300
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, I saw that thoughts were Jewish.

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I sure he doesn't all the way off?

1302
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Or is it just no? I saw the tear start,

1303
01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:36.199
<v Speaker 1>and that's when I stopped. I was gonna pull them

1304
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way off, and I was just like, it's tearing.

1305
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So I stopped right then and put it back on

1306
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and just said, Okay, it works for now. It is

1307
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 1>still attached. But I guess they're just getting dirty now.

1308
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I I loved everything about AirPods

1309
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Pro when I first got them, but the longer I've

1310
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 1>owned them, the more I've hated them. And I don't

1311
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 1>think I'm ever buying AirPods Pro again, or at least

1312
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to buy headphones with rubber seals anymore,

1313
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:08.239
<v Speaker 1>because they can't break.

1314
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 4>Over ears don't just squid where.

1315
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It's easy to say now because I haven't worn over

1316
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.039
<v Speaker 1>ears in a while, but last time I remember wearing

1317
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 1>over ears that really made my head uncomfortable. So but

1318
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend five hundred and fifty bucks on.

1319
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying air pods. I'm just saying the size

1320
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:26.840
<v Speaker 4>of working.

1321
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.119
<v Speaker 3>What's the okay question? Because you were explaining this thing

1322
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 3>with you in the car with Louise. This is a

1323
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:32.039
<v Speaker 3>genuine question.

1324
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:37.279
<v Speaker 4>What is your What is your function for using any

1325
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 4>type of headphones, whether in ear, on ear, or over ear?

1326
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 4>What what is what is your purpose? Is it to

1327
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:49.479
<v Speaker 4>just have an isolated experience? Is it to have a

1328
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 4>better sounding experience? There's different answers will tell you why

1329
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.199
<v Speaker 4>you should or shouldn't have over ears or in ears

1330
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.960
<v Speaker 4>or on ears or anything like that or anything.

1331
01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like having more than one thing, as you know,

1332
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have two phones. I don't want

1333
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to have so I like having one pair of headphones

1334
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.359
<v Speaker 1>that can kind of do everything. But my use cases

1335
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are more for doing online calls like this, like I'm

1336
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.920
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot more meetings at my new job, and

1337
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you don't want the mic to pick up the speakers

1338
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.159
<v Speaker 1>and everything, So I use it for work calls. But

1339
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I also do a lot of yard work, and I'm

1340
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 1>using machinery that makes noise when I'm mowing the lawn

1341
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 1>and everything. The mower's loud, So I like having active

1342
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.960
<v Speaker 1>noise cancelation, which is what was appealing to me to

1343
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.119
<v Speaker 1>AirPods for. But then there's also times where like I

1344
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 1>want to watch a video or a live stream that's

1345
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:40.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of late or very early in the morning, and

1346
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.399
<v Speaker 1>my wife is trying to sleep and she's right next

1347
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to me. So I just want something I can throw

1348
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:48.880
<v Speaker 1>on and listen that doesn't disturb people around me. And

1349
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.039
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of the deal breaker with airpod's for

1350
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like, anytime I wear these, everybody around me

1351
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to know that they're playing things, and it's

1352
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:01.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of I hate that little faint headphone sound. Immediate

1353
01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:05.399
<v Speaker 1>it happens. Yeah, it's like I I'm hearing noise. It's

1354
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:07.279
<v Speaker 1>not enough for people to know what you're listening to,

1355
01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:09.079
<v Speaker 1>but they can tell you're listening to something. It's a

1356
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:12.680
<v Speaker 1>very frustrating sound. So I was like, I want something

1357
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:16.720
<v Speaker 1>with less bleed through but good a n C. But

1358
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:19.399
<v Speaker 1>also because I use it when I'm doing your work,

1359
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:23.079
<v Speaker 1>it has to be somewhat water resistant because I sweat

1360
01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:25.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and as you know, I have to adjust

1361
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 1>my headphones all the time because how sweaty it gets.

1362
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Here here's a sweaty man.

1363
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna ask almost ridiculous question, but is it possible

1364
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.840
<v Speaker 4>in those. It sounds like everything with Airpod's four meets

1365
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 4>stack rats here except the bleed through part. So here's

1366
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 4>the ridiculous question. Is it possible you could just turn

1367
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.680
<v Speaker 4>it down a little bit more, you know what I mean,

1368
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 4>and you can still have the experience, Like.

1369
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you sound just like everybody around me

1370
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 1>whenever I'm using can you turn them down a little lower?

1371
01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.159
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, fifty per cent, I hear.

1372
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.199
<v Speaker 4>It, not me necess I don't care. I'm deaf anyway,

1373
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:10.600
<v Speaker 4>so I don't care. But you you having it sounds

1374
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:16.079
<v Speaker 4>like like because it sounds like up until this one part,

1375
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.239
<v Speaker 4>like you don't want anything with silicon SIPs again, like

1376
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 4>the Airpod's pro is that thing for you.

1377
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:24.079
<v Speaker 1>But they're dying too. They didn't charge this morning when

1378
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I when I me too, my left AirPod was dead and.

1379
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yep, it's always the last, so I'm

1380
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:33.560
<v Speaker 4>more likely.

1381
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>To go with some kind of over years. I don't

1382
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 1>think Airpod's max, but I I'm sick. Mike and I

1383
01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:41.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about this when we were driving through Nevada as well.

1384
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of headphones that only last like a year

1385
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and a half. And then the batteries have shot. I'm

1386
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:50.439
<v Speaker 1>tired of that. So it also for this application, it

1387
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>makes too much sense to have some something that I

1388
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>can plug in wired so that I don't have to

1389
01:17:55.079 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 1>be doing this musical Hello, it's so great, swish.

1390
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 4>I take for granted, I'm gonna pla, I'm gonna plug

1391
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 4>my album again. That's what the way I'm selling my

1392
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:16.680
<v Speaker 4>own product there. Yeah, Jack, hang on before you say anything, Mike.

1393
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.359
<v Speaker 4>The only thing that I don't like about my over

1394
01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:22.279
<v Speaker 4>years that I take for granted, or I don't take

1395
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:24.199
<v Speaker 4>for granted anymore, that I realized, like oh man, I

1396
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:28.079
<v Speaker 4>like that is I love the spatial audio that comes

1397
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.760
<v Speaker 4>with the AirPods, and I mixed my album to be

1398
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.720
<v Speaker 4>that where it works with spatial audio so you could

1399
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 4>get a good experience no matter what type of headphones

1400
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:41.560
<v Speaker 4>you got. I know it works great in stereo, it

1401
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:48.000
<v Speaker 4>works good on speakers, but I purposely was post production

1402
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.720
<v Speaker 4>equivalent when I was mixing the album to make sure

1403
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:54.960
<v Speaker 4>that they sounded exceptionally well in spatial audio without me

1404
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:58.600
<v Speaker 4>doing an official Doby mix, because that costs more money

1405
01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.960
<v Speaker 4>to stream, and I don't want to pay more money

1406
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 4>for that. So the only thing the only reason I'm

1407
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 4>holding on to these things is so I can listen

1408
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 4>to playback of certain music for example, for me for protecting,

1409
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:14.640
<v Speaker 4>to hear it in spatial audio and be like, wow,

1410
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 4>that's amazing. These over ears. I don't know of any

1411
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:20.960
<v Speaker 4>over ears that are wired that can just plug in

1412
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 4>and then they're good that also can give me a

1413
01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:28.520
<v Speaker 4>spatial audio experience. If they can, then I'm right there

1414
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.399
<v Speaker 4>with you, Drew, and I think you should do to. No,

1415
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:33.520
<v Speaker 4>they don't plug in, they don't plug in. That a

1416
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:38.199
<v Speaker 4>real plug in lossless plugging it. No, No, I need

1417
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:43.560
<v Speaker 4>the bigger jack, the not the three point five millimeters one. Yes,

1418
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:48.520
<v Speaker 4>the one she tells you not to worry about you, You,

1419
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:50.920
<v Speaker 4>the one she tells you about.

1420
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I need it.

1421
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I need it to the mutual studios support spatial I

1422
01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:58.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1423
01:19:58.399 --> 01:19:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I really, I have no idea.

1424
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I know that the I know they do lossless, but

1425
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:04.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

1426
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Do lostless, which is that's kind of what I'm eyeing

1427
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm not sure if I want to go

1428
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.600
<v Speaker 1>through that because they don't have much IP rating of

1429
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.640
<v Speaker 1>any kind. But the Beat studio pros look pretty good.

1430
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.479
<v Speaker 4>If the studio pros have over ear spatial audio and

1431
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 4>it's a wired plug in. Then I think when my

1432
01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Airpot's pro inevitably crap out, I will do over ears.

1433
01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:30.279
<v Speaker 1>They do by the way they do. They have spatial

1434
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.319
<v Speaker 1>audio and lossless playback.

1435
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Text me a link right now.

1436
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, I'm texting you the link from Apple because

1437
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that's the page that has the spatial audio stuff. But

1438
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you can find them on Amazon for much cheaper than Oh,

1439
01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:48.680
<v Speaker 1>don't do this.

1440
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.439
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I'm not buying an iPhone, so I'm gonna

1441
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:51.399
<v Speaker 4>buy some headphones instead.

1442
01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Guess what. The Amazon cheaper pair also has an exclusive

1443
01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>color that you can can't get from Apple.

1444
01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:02.039
<v Speaker 4>What's the color?

1445
01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>White?

1446
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

1447
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow? White brown? So you can't get the clean white

1448
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.119
<v Speaker 1>beat Studio pose from Apple. You have to get them

1449
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:16.439
<v Speaker 1>from Amazon. And they are cheaper.

1450
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 4>So oh wow. See I told you I would pay

1451
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:25.920
<v Speaker 4>three fifty for Airpod's Max to have that I don't

1452
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:27.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about.

1453
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You can buy him on Amazon for one seventy This generation, yeah,

1454
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>same generation. They are renewed. That's the one I'm looking at.

1455
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You've just rocked this man's world.

1456
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:48.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't need him right now.

1457
01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Though I don't need it, we're just impressed.

1458
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll get you a sponsorship, Brandy.

1459
01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I bet you would. You're such a pro at that.

1460
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, oh, did they sell out of the white ones thing?

1461
01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:08.479
<v Speaker 4>The exclusive?

1462
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Wait?

1463
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 4>Where's the white I don't see white.

1464
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not on that listing.

1465
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:15.199
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, meanwhile, you guys are doing that.

1466
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just playing with the calculator app that I just downloaded.

1467
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Why did you download a calculator app?

1468
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:25.560
<v Speaker 2>No, the well, okay, it's the calculator app. I downloaded

1469
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>iPad os eighteen or whatever it is, and now it's

1470
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:32.439
<v Speaker 2>absolutely math notes update.

1471
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:37.119
<v Speaker 4>I bet they did those jerks.

1472
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's do it.

1473
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Wait, I can have some fun here while you guys

1474
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>are looking at stuff. But pretty much the orange is

1475
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:51.479
<v Speaker 2>what the iPad or math notes filled in. And unfortunately

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01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the equation thing sucks, but it sometimes works, And by sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm being a little bit too harsh, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like functions like why of X, like why parentheses

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01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>X parentheses. It's just it likes why equals something in

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01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the function of X.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Then it'll tell you, okay, there's a graph for that.

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01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.600
<v Speaker 2>You want to see that, and then you can play

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<v Speaker 2>around with the graph or even where you are in the.

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<v Speaker 10>Graph does does the Beats studio prof So anyway, Well,

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<v Speaker 10>now I have a question because one thing that will

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<v Speaker 10>be a deal breaker regardless when it comes to work

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01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.520
<v Speaker 10>is does it have a flat profile with playback?

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<v Speaker 4>I need. I can't have something that has high base,

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01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.319
<v Speaker 4>like can I adjust the eq if it's base heavy

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<v Speaker 4>or low? Try?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Does it give you a flat profile?

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01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 4>A flat profile is basically you know a blank canvas

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01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:02.800
<v Speaker 4>that you can then actually manipulate in.

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01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Where would you find that out? Would it be in

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01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>MIDI set or what it would be?

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<v Speaker 3>Because this thing would even come with.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna answer your question with the question, doesn't this

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<v Speaker 4>thing come with its own app? I don't know, because

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01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:22.359
<v Speaker 4>if it did, it would be in the app settings

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01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:26.520
<v Speaker 4>that that you adjust eqs because I made the description,

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01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.279
<v Speaker 4>but I don't see anything that's talking about the sound

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01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:30.600
<v Speaker 4>profile unfortunately, And I know.

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01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.479
<v Speaker 1>That I would love to use my phone to check

1506
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the app store being used as continuity camera? What is this, Mike?

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01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:40.560
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't understand what v of T is equal to

1508
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>T square plus five?

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01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Is basic stuff?

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01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Impressed?

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01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Come on? So anyway, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything sold on headphones?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, I wouldn't be sold calculator.

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01:24:58.079 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>It's a classic episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I won't buy anything that is heavy on a certain

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01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.720
<v Speaker 4>sound frequency because that kind of screws up the whole

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01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:12.439
<v Speaker 4>audio mixed portion of things, which is what I use

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01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:16.680
<v Speaker 4>headphones primarily for. If I'm not taking call, I mean

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01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 4>calls like this is the secondary things like oh, since

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01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm here, I always throw these on and the AirPods

1521
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:24.159
<v Speaker 4>were giving me issues anyway. But I listened to a

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01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 4>flat profile on purpose because that gives you the most

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01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:31.399
<v Speaker 4>that's the most authentic playback that you can get. If

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01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.119
<v Speaker 4>something is heavy on the base, it might be heavier

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01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:38.560
<v Speaker 4>than what either the musician was intending, or even YouTube videos,

1526
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:42.439
<v Speaker 4>then you hear like weird mudtlely noise happening. You don't

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01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 4>like that. I don't like that.

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01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:49.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think that on Apple all of the settings

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01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in EQ is built into the settings app. There's an app,

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01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.079
<v Speaker 1>but it's only on Android, which makes me think that, Okay,

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01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>there must be settings on iOS and they just build

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01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>it in by default.

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01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Or they just don't exist, or they just don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlikely. Why does beats make cases?

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01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>But sorry, I think we went over we did.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay.

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01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even realize time flies when we're having fun

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01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:26.439
<v Speaker 2>talking about beats, headphones later beat to death.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad we see on iPhone sixteen, Drew. I was

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01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:35.239
<v Speaker 4>expecting that, to be honest, but I am so disappointed

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01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 4>that you are such a sellout. Now I can't I

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01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:38.479
<v Speaker 4>can't look at you the same.

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01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm writing you out of my will now, like the

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01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:43.279
<v Speaker 4>whole thing, it's done.

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01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I understand.

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01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you deserve everything that comes to you when

1549
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:49.640
<v Speaker 4>you get dragged about sponsorships.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I do. I will say as my last thing

1551
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:58.159
<v Speaker 2>in which as one who enjoys Office three sixty five,

1552
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of Microsoft to be bringing back the

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01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>one time purchase.

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01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I think it's often does that happen.

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01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>It's been like three or four years I think since

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01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the one time purchase has been around. I think it

1557
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>was twenty twenty one or something like that.

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01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But how much is it?

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01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:13.720
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>PC World States eighty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty thousand dollars. No, I think it's about if I

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01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>recall in another articles, around forty to sixty No. One

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01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and one hundred and forty. I'll get that metric

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01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>on the next podcast. But I think it's around one

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01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:35.239
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty four a one time two three the

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01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:36.199
<v Speaker 2>software packages.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to the bottom of this, but hey,

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01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a in an ocean of memberships. Here's a company offering

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01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>one time purchases. Left is doing something good here.

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01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I would jump on this so bad do it?

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01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Office is great.

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01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>The calculator app is angering me, but maybe I just

1574
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:56.199
<v Speaker 2>don't understand how you use it. Excel is awesome, but.

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01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:59.079
<v Speaker 4>A one time purchase is the way to go. Logic

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01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 4>final cut, and now Microsoft Office the best suite of

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01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:04.880
<v Speaker 4>office applications exactly.

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01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>That's the best thing we should highlight of Apple being

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01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>so distracted by intelligence is they haven't gotten around to

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01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>turning all of their pro apps into memberships yet. We're okay,

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01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>who now?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I would really hate to have him to start

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01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:21.920
<v Speaker 4>to pirate things again. I mean, what, No, don't do that.

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01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.640
<v Speaker 4>That's illegal. Guys, don't do that. I don't do that.

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01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:26.720
<v Speaker 4>I said, don't do that. I would hate to do

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01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:28.880
<v Speaker 4>that because it's illegal and you shouldn't do that.

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01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:31.399
<v Speaker 2>But you said hate too, but you're gonna have no.

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01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:33.199
<v Speaker 4>I would hate to because it's wrong.

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01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Audio listeners are like Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Video Randy's spin right now. It is like, yo, he's

1591
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 4>on fire. Those are bars right there. Everyone on YouTube

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01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:51.159
<v Speaker 4>drop a winky emoji at the end, so let me

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01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:52.359
<v Speaker 4>know you made it this far in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your We'll see you all on you tour, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>next week. YouTube cat YouTube