WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.039 By Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this bridget 2 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.519 shot daft in the tri State. Terrible weather everywhere, and 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:16.679 it's going to stay here for the next several days. 4 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.960 Maybe person next week may get a little bit better, 5 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:19.879 may not, who knows. 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:22.440 But we're in the middle of I think. 7 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:26.839 The tenth or eleventh polar vortex that has struck the Midwest. 8 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:29.079 And we'll see what happens there. Big show plan in 9 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.879 about thirty minutes or so. We've scheduled Jay Ratliff to 10 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.320 come up. There's new information about that Delta plane that 11 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:39.799 crashed in Toronto, which involves the steep rate of descent allegedly. 12 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.359 I'm watching this morning on one of the cable channels, 13 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:44.920 I think it was a CNN. They had an F 14 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.640 eighteen pilot on saying you're supposed to descend about eight 15 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.759 hundred feet a minute. It was descending at fifteen hundred 16 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.560 feet a minute. So as the plane landed, it crushed 17 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.560 one of the tires, and then the plane went to 18 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.960 the right, and then the wing blew off jet fuel 19 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.679 and flames everywhere. Then a road on its belly. So 20 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.959 away we go with that. Plus later on is David 21 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:09.040 Kubicki of Columbia Township to talk about marijuana and how 22 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.680 there's a sense in some of the cities and townships 23 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.560 that's the bait and switch tactics going on in Columbus. 24 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.959 We'll see what happens with that, but until then, brad Winstrip, 25 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.079 Doctor brad Winstrip twenty five years as a soldier and 26 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.680 about twelve years in the Congress, and he was appointed 27 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:28.920 by President Trump to the Advisory Council on Intelligence things 28 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.280 of that character. And brad Winstrip, welcome again to the 29 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.400 Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, before we talk 30 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:37.040 about the Avian flu and the plane crash and Iran 31 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:41.760 and Ukraine and talk about all matters about Israel, et cetera, 32 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.079 tell us first of all, what is brad Winstrip doing 33 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:45.599 these days? 34 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:50.159 If anything, Well, I'm working on doing some consulting and 35 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:55.079 business development type programs. And most of the outreach to 36 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.920 me has come directly from people that are interested in 37 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:03.200 national security and the supply chain and energy. And so 38 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.120 we'll see where we might be able to take the 39 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:10.800 experiences of twelve years in Congress and military background to 40 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:12.879 try and build a healthier, safer nation. 41 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.319 Let's talk about the avian flu because many of us, 42 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.840 in the back of my mind, COVID is somewhat fresh. 43 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.240 All hell broke loose in March of twenty twenty before 44 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.759 that it was out there h one, the so called COVID, 45 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:30.000 and obviously I think we've done this before, originated in 46 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.960 the lab as a leak by mistake, and the Lab 47 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.199 of virology there in Muhan. We believe that's what happened, 48 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.719 but no one wanted to say that because it would 49 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.879 pin the tail on the Chinese donkey, and you can't 50 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.000 do that. As we sit here this Tuesday afternoon, how 51 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.080 much of a concern do you have, and you were 52 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.680 the guy in charge in the Congress of the COVID subcommittee, 53 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.560 how much of a concern do you have now that 54 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.360 we're going to have a similar result with this particular 55 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:56.080 avian flu. 56 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.400 No. I think we learned a lot of lessons from COVID, 57 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:03.360 and that's to take things lightly or think that it'll 58 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.400 just be under control. And so the avian flu is, 59 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.919 you know, something we need to be very much concerned about. 60 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.759 So you have a virus that's affecting. 61 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:16.560 Poultry, and that's why we've had to kill so many 62 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.039 because we don't want it spreading more and more, and 63 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.439 so that creates a shortage, and you know it affects 64 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:27.960 us economically and at the grocery store. So what can 65 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.199 happen and what has seemed to be happening. You take 66 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.879 the case in Louisiana where there was a death related 67 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.319 to the avian flu. But the avian flu that was 68 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:44.360 in the person who became ill and passed away was 69 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.879 a mutation of what we're finding in the animals. And 70 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.439 in this case, you're looking at the viruses that are 71 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:55.360 in the animals on that particular farm where the person 72 00:03:55.439 --> 00:04:00.360 became ill, and it appears that the mutation occurred within 73 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.520 the human being because none of the animals had this 74 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.039 same sequence as a human being. 75 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:07.759 Viruses are very crafty. 76 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:10.960 They will mutate, as most of America that after COVID, 77 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.240 but they will mutate, and they're always trying to survive 78 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.920 and they need to get into your cells to survive. 79 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:18.680 And when they do, they cause damage. 80 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.399 So this human avian flu is different from what's in 81 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:27.240 cows and poultry, but seemingly through mutation that occurred within 82 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.680 the human being, not before going to the human being. 83 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.839 So you know, again, some things that may kill a 84 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.439 cow or a chicken won't necessarily kill a human, but 85 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.759 if it mutates, it can find that capability, which was 86 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.439 the thing with COVID. When you looked at the coronavirus 87 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.439 that became COVID, it had something on it called if're 88 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.519 and cleavage site, which made it more infectious to humans. 89 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.160 And we had never seen in nature and still have 90 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.800 not in nature a coronavirus of that type with a 91 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:02.079 fear and cleavage site. 92 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.959 But we do know that in the lab they were. 93 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:09.759 Adding for your and cleavage sites to certain coronaviruses and modifying, 94 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.519 so you know, this seems to be something in nature, 95 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.759 but it really stresses the importance of the things that 96 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.879 we do as far as surveillance. You know, I went 97 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:22.560 to Cambodian laos and this is this is a place 98 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.600 where I think USAID has a good role because we're 99 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.160 using our soft power to try and help a nation 100 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.879 be healthier. And the USAID as they're working with their scientists, 101 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.199 training more of their scientists so that they know how 102 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:37.279 to do surveillance. 103 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:40.720 And we went to the wet markets, the. 104 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.079 Animal markets where they're you know, swabbing the birds that 105 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.040 are in there. To check them from the types of 106 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:47.399 viruses that there are. 107 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:49.600 So you record all of these. 108 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.480 Things, and what the potential for the future is that 109 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.279 you see these and you understand the components of a virus. 110 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.120 I believe that AI can be the way to predict 111 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:03.560 what might occur in nature, rather than actually making a 112 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.279 more dangerous pathogen in the lab, which was gain of 113 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.240 function research. 114 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.759 And so when you talk about the coronavirus unique in 115 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:17.279 nature because of certain receptors, isn't it probable, if not certain, 116 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:22.639 that COVID nineteen was concocted in a lab in Wuhan 117 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.240 that the American taxpayer partially paid for. 118 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:30.000 We paid for that kind of research. Is that true? 119 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:31.959 Yeah? I mean it's all in our report, and people 120 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.439 can go online and look at the Majority Report on 121 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.199 the Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus Pandemic and. 122 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:40.199 You'll get every bit of it. 123 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.600 You'll get all our transcribed interviews, and we have it 124 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.600 very orderly and broken down into sections, and people can 125 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.000 see the forensics that would lead one to believe that 126 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:52.360 this came from a lab. And yes, we were funding this, 127 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:56.519 and you know, now you're getting into what we see 128 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.040 within our agencies and the processes that are very, very 129 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.879 foul from what they should be. And again, this we 130 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.879 need to do, and we are doing a certain type 131 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:12.319 of doze on NIH and the agencies and the grant 132 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.079 process and oversight and all of these types of things 133 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.639 of what we're putting taxpayer dollars into. 134 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:20.600 You know, keep in mind that. 135 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.199 The particular study that was done in Wuhan, China using 136 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.279 gain of function research that we just described was denied 137 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:32.480 by DARPA. DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. 138 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.439 They said no, no, no, that's too dangerous and we're 139 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.879 not going to do that. We're especially not going to 140 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.879 do it over there. And yet go over to NIH 141 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.399 and you get the grant. So our our government's too big, 142 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:47.160 it's not organized, and it's it's not as precise as 143 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.600 it should be, and we've we've got to make those changes. 144 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.759 But we want to point out to go ahead. 145 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:54.959 Yeah, with what the rate of confidence do you say 146 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.839 that the H five and one, which is described today 147 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:02.720 as the most recent bird virus is not man made. 148 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.920 I believe it's not man made. I believe it's it's 149 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:13.439 it's natural. But I also think between COVID and things 150 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:17.839 like this, episodes like this, it does stress the importance 151 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.240 of surveillance for viruses to find out what is out 152 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.000 there and what could possibly be changed. And we certainly 153 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.839 have to know what's going on in laboratories too, don't 154 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:32.600 get me wrong, but in this particular case, I think 155 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:37.159 it's it's something that's been a concern for some time, 156 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.320 and not not any reports that I know of of 157 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.320 this type of work going on in a lab, except 158 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.679 for the possibility of creating vaccines. You know, you take 159 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:51.279 a virus and that and from that virus is what 160 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:55.039 drives you towards making a vaccine against that virus. But 161 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.039 with gain and function research, what they were trying to 162 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:02.840 do is create a virus before it actually existed and 163 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:07.200 then create the vaccine in case it ever existed. But 164 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.759 if it gets out of the lab, it's dangerous. So 165 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:12.600 this is this is natural, but you know, there's things 166 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:14.759 we're doing and we need to do more of in 167 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:18.159 my opinion, which is like wastewater when a plane comes 168 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:22.200 in from another country, especially one where there's high suspicion 169 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.919 of a pathogen, then you can check the wastewater from 170 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:29.639 the plane and see what kind of viruses are present there. 171 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:33.120 These are the types of things that can be our sonar, 172 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.960 if you will, our radar to get us ahead of 173 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.240 the curve, and we can put out warnings. When I 174 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.080 was in Cambodian Laos, an eleven year old girl died 175 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.840 of av and flu. She lived in the rural areas, 176 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.840 and therefore it was able to be contained right then 177 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.480 and there. And those are the types of processes that 178 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:55.840 didn't always exist before, and so this has to. 179 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:56.960 Happen more and more. 180 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.679 And I think the world after COVID is especially more 181 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.679 aware of the potential dangers and why it's good to 182 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:03.960 niftyse things in the butt. 183 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.759 As we sit here Tuesday afternoon, there's many issues. The 184 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.679 weather's an issue, job creation is an issue, taxes, doge 185 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:17.559 Elon musk Trump, Iran emmin An attack allegedly Benjamin Netchnaw 186 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:21.960 who has received sixteen hundred two thousand pound bombs. And 187 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.879 that's not for anything relative to Gaza. We got all 188 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.600 hell break and loose. People are concerned, schools are closed 189 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.840 quite often, can't get the snow off the city streets. 190 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.360 How much concern and worry should Tony Bender and his 191 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:38.039 family have in Boone County that h five one is 192 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.480 going to metastasize like COVID nineteen did. 193 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.240 I think at this particular point, unless there's some uncontrolled 194 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.600 outbreak somewhere, I feel like we're on top of it. Unfortunately, 195 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:57.120 you know, someone in Louisiana died, and again this goes 196 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:00.320 more towards surveillance and a quick reaction for us. And 197 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:05.279 then not only that, but to have treatments available. You know, 198 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:08.480 we have to be able to work on anti virals 199 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:13.799 and antibodies that can fight against a sudden outbreak of 200 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:17.279 a new vaccine or of a new virus that presents, 201 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.039 especially if it's a mutation of something that's already out there, 202 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.120 you have a little bit of a heads up because 203 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:29.120 you've got the base virus that then mutates. So it 204 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:34.080 takes effort, but I think you know, you can rest comfortably. 205 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.399 I think that you know we're taking the actions necessary 206 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.559 when you see the destruction of you know, animals in 207 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.919 an effort to present disease, and you know, in this 208 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.840 case with eggs, for example, there's a shortage and we 209 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.080 got to suffer a little bit in the name of prevention. 210 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.600 So this isn't something keeping you up at night. Tell 211 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.519 the American people if you can. What is the Presidential 212 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.320 Intelligence Advisory Board. You're on there with twelve others wanted 213 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.879 by President Trump. What is the Presidential Intelligence Advisory Board. 214 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.480 Well, you know, we are. 215 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:14.240 There to advise the president and discuss capabilities that exist 216 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:16.679 in this world that are threats to the United States 217 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.039 and advise the president on those. And you have people 218 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:25.519 on there that have experience in this realm. And I'm 219 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.480 looking forward to working on it and carrying out the 220 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:34.840 President's agenda to have intelligence community that can be seen 221 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:40.240 in a light of high integrity and character and that 222 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:44.159 we're doing things right, and that it's not its own 223 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.679 little country, that it belongs to the people. The intelligence 224 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.639 community belongs to the people. And then we will carry 225 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.240 out and be able to make sure that the President 226 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.039 gets the best advice on intelligence from around the world. 227 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:03.159 Lastly, how much when you were on the Intelligence Committee 228 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.320 and you were head of the subcommittee on COVID things 229 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.279 of that character, you were given the most sensitive information 230 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.279 of the world. And I'm looking at reports out of 231 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.320 Israel that Benjamin Netchin Yahoo now has possession of eighteen 232 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.960 hundred two thousand pounds bunker buster bombs. He's been given 233 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.639 a green light to go after Iran Iran itself. This 234 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.399 is not about the Iranian people, the Persian people. This 235 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.840 is about the government they have. The religious leaders in 236 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.399 Iran think the way to heaven is to kill innocent men, 237 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.679 women and children. When it comes to exchanging prisoners, we 238 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:43.799 have something like twenty five or thirty innocent people being 239 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.000 traded for hundreds or thousands of murderers, those convicted of 240 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.720 killing and taking back in charge of Gaza Hamas as 241 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.480 a non factor. Well, when you were in the house 242 00:13:55.480 --> 00:14:00.440 and you had so many intelligent studies, was there belief 243 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.440 that somehow the intelligence that we had about the October 244 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.080 attack so many other things, the intelligence community has failed 245 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:11.679 repeatedly to keep American safe and advice as far as 246 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.039 what we know, do you have concern about the danger 247 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.519 of the world in which we live? And whenever something 248 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.559 happens that dooge raises his ugly head and the media 249 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.200 blames Donald Trump for the plane crash in Toronto, They 250 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.200 blamed Donald Trump for the Metavac plane that went down. 251 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.039 They blamed Donald Trump for everything. So in the Intelligence Committee, 252 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.120 as an American, how pleased are you now that Trump 253 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:35.799 is in charge instead of Joe Biden. 254 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.000 Well, I think that what we're going to see is 255 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.600 we're going to take the politics out of it. You know, 256 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:48.960 Donald Trump, President Trump is for America America first, and 257 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.200 some people don't like that. I always say America first, 258 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.200 but not alone. We you know, we live in a 259 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.279 very small world these days when it comes to gathering intelligence, 260 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.360 you know, you want to be able to make your 261 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:05.159 best decisions. And I think with this president, for example, 262 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.399 he's sort of in the Reagan realm of peace through 263 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.919 strengths and what can we have in place to be 264 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:12.559 a deterrent? 265 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:14.919 So the components that you use. 266 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:19.639 To be a deterrent are strong one strong military. You 267 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.080 can use diplomacy, you know, as best you feel necessary, 268 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.120 with your State Department and with the President and leaders themselves. 269 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.679 But intelligence, having the intelligence of what you're up against 270 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.360 to understand what the battleground looks like out there gives 271 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.600 you gives you great authority, especially when you are carrying 272 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.679 out diplomacy. And then the other tools that we have 273 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.879 that are non kinetic would be like sanctions. And if 274 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:49.080 you look at what the Trump administration before did with Iran, 275 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.360 really held them at bay, it weakened them. You know, 276 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.840 we didn't want to go in and kill the Iranian 277 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.360 people because most of them don't particularly care for their leadership, 278 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.240 but they are on the thumb of that leadership. You know, 279 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.080 tro sanctions and other means, we really brought them to 280 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.879 your knees. And you know Obama administration, going back to 281 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.840 the abomdministration, they were worried about Iran getting a nuke. 282 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.200 Well today they don't have one. So maybe we've been 283 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:20.240 doing some things right without having to use a military action, 284 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:24.559 either ours or Israels. So the idea of having good 285 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:28.200 intelligence and you know, if you can do what you 286 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:33.960 can to slow production, reduce dollars that can go towards 287 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.279 developing a nuclear weapon, those types of things, you take 288 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:40.480 the intelligence that you have and all the tools that 289 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.559 you have to try and make a difference and bring 290 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.000 about peace and not conflict. 291 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:50.519 Wonderful Congressman, the next Congressman and Soldier brad Winstrip, thanks 292 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.039 for coming on. I know it's a big deal to 293 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.360 be on the Presidential Intelligence Advisory Committee, but H five 294 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.639 N one is out there. The price of eggs is 295 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:02.440 tripled because you killed thirty or forty million chickens, and 296 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.759 that's the way to handle the outbreak. All of a sudden, 297 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.839 prices are going to go up for bacon and sausage, 298 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.599 all that kind of stuff. But we'll see what happens 299 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.079 down the road. Once again, Brad Winsterm, thank you for 300 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.000 your service and thank you for coming on the Bill 301 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.680 Cunningham Show. And Brad, you're a great American. Thank you 302 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:16.119 very much. 303 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:17.079 It's a pleasure. 304 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:17.599 Thanks Bill. 305 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:20.160 Well, let's continue with more coming up after the news 306 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.680 is going to be We've scheduled Jay Ratliffe new information 307 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:27.319 about the delta plane that crashed yesterday afternoon about three o'clock. Also, 308 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:32.480 later on, we've scheduled David Kubicki, township trustee in Columbia. 309 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.799 Many of the township trustees and municipal governments are extremely 310 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.519 unhappy with Mike DeWine what they want to do with marijuana, 311 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.160 to kill the Golden Goose and more. Plus we've scheduled 312 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.240 Frank LeRose at some point today. So let's continue. Weather 313 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.440 is terrible, but things are great at your home of 314 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.519 the Red's News Radio seven hundred Wuldow. 315 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:54.440 Billy Cunningham. 316 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:58.880 Yesterday afternoon that Delta plane crashed in Toronto. The video 317 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:03.079 is available on filming websites is frightening, it's scary, and man, 318 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.799 with all the answers, at least most of the questions 319 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:09.839 is my aviation consulting the great Jay Ratliffe and Jay Ratliffe, 320 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.279 welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And what do 321 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.799 we know as we sit here about twenty minutes before 322 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:18.599 one o'clock on Tuesday afternoon about why this thing happened 323 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.200 and it was a miracle, no one was killed. We're 324 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.319 looking at the fireball, But what do we know at 325 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.440 this point if anything, Jay Ratliffe, Well, one of the 326 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:26.759 things that. 327 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.759 It's rare is for us to have an aircraft that 328 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:33.240 is on its top during an emergency situation and not 329 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.680 be talking about fatality. So you were right, quite the 330 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.880 miracle there for that. But one of the things that 331 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:43.480 is probably the most apparent now as we've received one 332 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:47.440 of the latest videos of the landing was how apparently 333 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.039 as the aircraft was coming in the CRG nine hundred, 334 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.880 the bombardier's mean landing gear on the right side especially 335 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.160 seemed to collapse or the gear itself was off to 336 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.759 the side of the run. That caused the aircraft to 337 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.799 tilt quite a bit and as a result, the right 338 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.039 wing struck something that ended up causing it to be 339 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.960 taken off. The aircraft turned, the other wing went up, 340 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.319 caught the wind and then it flipped and we go 341 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:16.160 from there. So the National Transportation Safety Board is not 342 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.079 leading the charge here because it is a Canadian accident. 343 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:23.480 They will be assisting the Canadian authorities, as will Bombardier, 344 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.640 the aircraft manufacture. All three will get together, the black 345 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.119 boxes will be reviewed. They'll be looking at every bit 346 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.440 of evidence and to determine exactly what the cause or 347 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.680 causes were that brought this accident around. We do know 348 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:40.839 that the first responders did a great job getting to 349 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:45.839 the aircraft, the flight crew, and you know, twenty year plus, Bill, 350 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.839 I've been talking about bragging on flight attendants as emergency 351 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.759 evacuation specialists. That's exactly what they were here. And remember 352 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.200 this aircraft's and burted. It's on top. So what you 353 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.279 have is flight attendants that are trained normally to once 354 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.359 given the order the aircraft doors open, Well, they had 355 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:06.480 to first disengage those emergency slides, which they did because 356 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:10.000 of those would have gotten in the way, impeding any 357 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.880 sort of a fast evacuation. And for those that were 358 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.960 kind enough to take video. As they were getting off 359 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.319 of the airplane, we could hear the flight attendants constantly 360 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:23.640 telling passengers leave their belongings behind. Some still chose to 361 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:28.079 slow down the evacuation by bringing stuff. But probably the 362 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:31.920 best story of all of this bill was the reports 363 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:34.680 from people on board that said that instead of at 364 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.079 the time that the aircraft came to stop, everybody kind 365 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:42.039 of doing a man for themselves. Everybody was concerned about others. 366 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.119 They were assisting their fellow passengers and getting off the aircraft, 367 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.039 and you know, that was really good to see in 368 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:48.359 a crisis such as that. 369 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.400 What's amazing is that these passengers were like bats in 370 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.880 a cave, hanging upside down, I would think, completely disoriented, 371 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.160 and as the plane is landing, it's completely normal. Well, 372 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.160 within about three seconds it goes from hey, life is good, 373 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:08.200 we're on the ground, to life and death, and that's amazing. 374 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.319 I watched an F eighteen fighter pilot this morning on 375 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.359 CNN talk about it looked to him like the rate 376 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:16.920 of descent was wrong. He said, we descend about eight 377 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.279 hundred feet a minute. This was descending fifteen hundred feet 378 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:23.000 a minute, and so his point was the plane was 379 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.160 landing at a sharp angle, which collapsed the right landing 380 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.160 gear that cause the plane to larch right. Then the 381 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.200 wing was taken off jet fuel everywhere. Does that make 382 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.839 sense to you that the level of descent was a 383 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:35.640 little too sharp. 384 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:36.759 Yeah. 385 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.279 I had him at about eleven hundred feet a minute, 386 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.400 right close to five hundred feet on their descent rate. 387 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:47.319 And of course, one of the things that when you're 388 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.640 dealing with a crosswind is this crew was supposed to 389 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.799 have thirty to forty miles an hour. One of the 390 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.000 things you do is you increase the speed of your 391 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.599 descent to offset what's going to be happening. When you 392 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:01.640 have that, you get into trouble if you come in 393 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.960 too slow. Now, as far as the angle of attack, 394 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.279 as far as them coming down, that is still going 395 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.279 to be left to be determined from the investigators. But 396 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:14.640 it does look like they landed hard, and again it 397 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.319 may be something where its crew related where they came 398 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.440 in too hard, landed and it collapsed that landing gear 399 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.799 that led to the sequence of events that took place. 400 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.319 They might have had a mechanical situation with the main 401 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:31.759