1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:22,600 to Vpete calendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,640 your support. All Right, I said I was going to 11 00:00:29,719 --> 00:00:31,359 move on, but I got a call here from Mike 12 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:34,679 who wanted to talk about the Russia collusion hoax. So 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,479 let me bring Mike on real quick, and then I'll 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,119 tell you about the White House ballroom. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Mike, Welcome to the show. 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Sounds good, great, How are you, sah? 17 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:44,359 Speaker 1: I'm all right. 18 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Are you on a speakerphone in a bathroom? Uh no, 19 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,280 it's very hollow, very echoe. 20 00:00:52,439 --> 00:00:54,679 Speaker 3: Okay, let me see if I can change speakers. I'm 21 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:55,159 so sorry. 22 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:55,759 Speaker 1: That's all right. 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,359 Speaker 3: How about this a little bit better? 24 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:00,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit cleaner yet. 25 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,079 Speaker 3: All right, when you're coming through kind of thing. But 26 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:06,719 we'll see what we can do. I appreciate you taking 27 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:10,280 the call, and this I think falls in the category, 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,040 Pete of be careful what you wish for. Because if 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,319 the president and the magna crowd and you know, talk 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,040 radio hosts want to you know, bring back for public 31 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:31,480 discussion the Russian collusion hopes quote unquote, then in many ways, 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,719 that's a great discussion to have because it will remind 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,799 people of three things, three big, big factors that have 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,840 been proven and been discussed and found by various investigations. 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,799 And you've put out lots of various facts, but I 36 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:56,879 don't think any I'm really refused. The three overall overarching 37 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:04,480 headlines from this whole situation. Number one is is that 38 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:10,439 Russia actively engaged in activity to interfere with the twenty 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,439 sixteen election. 40 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Nobody has never denied that. I've never denied that. 41 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, right, And that doesn't But that. 42 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Doesn't prove hang on that, that doesn't prove any of 43 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:23,400 the accusations that were made. So just simply saying that 44 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:26,919 they meddled in the election does not is not proof 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,759 of any of the further accusations, right, Nor is. 46 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:39,159 Speaker 3: It proof that that Russia was able to meddle with 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,599 machines and actually change votes. 48 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Correct, that was never that was never uh, that was 49 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:51,240 never asserted. Even Obama's administration did not assert that correct. However, Wait, 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,719 but however, the tagline that Democrats have been using for 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,879 nine years was that Russia hacked the election. I've got 52 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:02,479 the audio clips, I've got all the montage. It's it 53 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:07,280 was a constant drumbeat. And so whether there was there 54 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:11,080 while there was never any explicit allegation that Russia hacked 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,080 into the voting machines and changed the votes, the tagline 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,719 that y'all used of Russia hacked the election that it 57 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:24,159 sent a message to many Democrat voters. And if you 58 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:27,159 ask your fellow Democrats, you will encounter a great number 59 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,360 of them that do, in fact believe that Russia hacked 60 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,960 into the voting machines. That's what the polling shows, and 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,280 it's shown that for the last nine years. 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,479 Speaker 3: Whether you want to use term hacked or, as I 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,919 said at the beginning, interfered with, there's very there's just 64 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:51,479 no question that Russia actually engaged in an American election. 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,919 Speaker 1: All right, but hang on, Mike, a couple of things. 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Hang on, I'm gonna let you go. 67 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:59,319 Speaker 2: But like the the first thing there is that that's 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,000 not unusual. Well, they've been doing it for years. We've 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,680 been doing it to them for years, decades, right, so 70 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:06,879 that's not unusual. And then you got to ask how 71 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,439 did they interfere? What were they doing? 72 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Right? What was the Russian government? And you've got the 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,120 troll farms? 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Right, so we know about that, they had the Ira 75 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:19,439 troll farm and that's what you know. Muller issued the 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,560 indictments for these Russians whatever, But what were they actually 77 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,879 able to do? What did they actually influence? And as 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,079 Aaron Mante has reported on the Idea that that like 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,160 one hundred thousand dollars spent on Facebook ads and some 80 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:37,319 memes that that somehow flipped people's votes, there's no evidence, 81 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:40,160 never has been any evidence to show that it had 82 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:40,759 any impact. 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,639 Speaker 3: We can't nobody is going to be able to prove 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,160 that X number of votes we were changed because of 85 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,279 all the Russian interference? All right, but what do you 86 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:55,120 think they did the Russian in fact interfere? 87 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: What do you think they hang on? 88 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,759 Speaker 2: What do you think they did besides what I just said, 89 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,879 what do you think Russia did to interfere? 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,759 Speaker 3: Well? What the what the Mulla investigator investigation showed What 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,600 the Byparson Senate investigation showed is that there were a 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 number of, as you said, troll forms, number of social 93 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:20,839 social media misinformation that was put out there, so substantial interference. 94 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:24,000 So that part is definitely not a hoax. The second 95 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,399 that's that's not the hoax. 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: No, that's not the hoax, though, Mike, you're conflating that 97 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:32,000 with the Russia collusion hoax. That's why I call it 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,839 the Russian collusion hoax. 99 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: The allegation was that leads me to my second point. 100 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,360 That leads me my second point. The second point is, 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,480 in addition to the fact that Russian it's clear that 102 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,319 Russian operatives actively interfered with the twenty sixteen campaign, the 103 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,120 second fact is there's a bunch of evidence to show 104 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:55,959 how the Donald Trump campaign welcomed that interference. You had 105 00:05:56,319 --> 00:06:03,079 numerous political operatives excuse me, campaign officials, uh, that have 106 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:06,959 played guilty and or been convicted of crimes for that 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,360 very instance. What you got, you got Michael flann. 108 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: And hang on a second. 109 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,639 Speaker 2: Those guys, those guys we mentioned Pepadopolis came up the 110 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,639 other yesterday. 111 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: His name was brought up yesterday. 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,199 Speaker 2: So don't say I don't talk about that the the 113 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,160 guys that you were mentioning, like Maniford, what was his 114 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,040 what was his charge? 115 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: You remember his crime? 116 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,639 Speaker 3: Well, at least we had to My third point. 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,199 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,639 what was what. 119 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,199 Speaker 3: Was tied drom y'all tied in? 120 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you make I'm not going 121 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:41,120 to let you make the to get on the role 122 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,879 that you want to get on. Where you just pepper 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,439 a bunch of stuff out there, throw some names without 124 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:47,720 telling us what were all of the charges for? 125 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,319 Speaker 1: What were all of those people charged for? 126 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's see here if I can remember all this 127 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,480 stuff we've got Manaport was convicted let's say very financial crimes. 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,399 I think there was an obstruction of justice. Uh and 129 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,560 he uh, you know, tried to thwart the investigation. 130 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,759 Speaker 1: What was that camp? What what was the collusion? 131 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,839 Speaker 3: What did Rogers sound? 132 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: What was the what was the collusion about with Manifact? 133 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:16,120 What was the collusion about with Manaford? 134 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:20,759 Speaker 3: Uh? There was the interaction with a bunch of uh 135 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:26,040 Russian operatives that he lied about. And again that's my 136 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,759 third point is that in addition to welcoming the interference, 137 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,879 when facts started coming out about this the campaign and 138 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:40,240 these were these Trump operatives worked very very hard to 139 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:44,639 instruct any of the investigation into this information. 140 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so hang on my point, my point, Bill, My gosh, Mike, 141 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,040 you got to stop. 142 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,079 Speaker 2: Mike, you just got you got you got to break 143 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:56,000 this down into uh smaller chunks here, because you're you're 144 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 trying to build a theory of a case with me, 145 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:03,399 but you're building it on misinformation or lack of information. 146 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:07,120 So I asked you about Maniford. You said, financial crimes. 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,079 What was the collusion? What was the Papadopolis charge? 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,319 Speaker 3: I don't have it right off the top of my head. 149 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: That was the Roger Stone charge. 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: I believe he was. I think it was an instruction 151 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,000 of justice charge. 152 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Was because why. 153 00:08:25,079 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: Uh he lied to investigators or he refused or. 154 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: He refused to participate in the subpoena that was given 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,360 to him by the j sixth Committee. 156 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Right right, right, So that's not collusion. So like that's 157 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:38,879 that's not collusion either. 158 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:41,919 Speaker 2: See No, But Mike, what you're doing is you're throwing 159 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,919 these things in there like, oh, they got this guy, 160 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:45,840 they got this guy, they got this guy. Convictions that 161 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,080 and that somehow stacks up as proof of collusion when 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,519 it doesn't in fact, in fact, he let me make 163 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,039 this one point. 164 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go again. 165 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,799 Speaker 2: In fact, if you are being investigated by the very 166 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:03,080 intelligence agent sees that you believe is framing you, which 167 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,639 we now know they were, they were involved in this 168 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,240 very thing, and so why would you cooperate with them? 169 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,879 You saw what happened to Mike Flynn when he took 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,039 a meeting. He thought it was a friendly meeting, and 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,240 they put him into a perjury trap. So why would 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,759 you participate and then you get charged with the obstruction. 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,639 This is the whole point. 174 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: The term that you're that you try to use again 175 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,399 is the collusion hoax? All right? 176 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Correct? 177 00:09:32,919 --> 00:09:37,039 Speaker 3: And collusion is different. There is no there is no evidence. 178 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,919 Muwal said there was no evidence of illegal collusion. But 179 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,879 to say that it's a hoax is absolutely acting. 180 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,519 Speaker 1: It was a hoax. 181 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:47,519 Speaker 3: It's taking one little truth and trying to make everything else. 182 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,559 It's not, I think, not want active experienced by Russia, 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,120 an active cooperation by now campaign, who welcomed that. 184 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,799 Speaker 1: There was no there's no proof of that. 185 00:09:56,919 --> 00:09:57,879 Speaker 3: There's no time of proof. 186 00:09:57,919 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: No, there's no there is no there is no no 187 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,399 proof campaign. There is no proof that Russia colluded with 188 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,279 the Trump campaign because what did the what did the 189 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,159 report say? The ICA said that, uh, that they they wanted, 190 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:15,080 they aspired to have Trump win, that there was. 191 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: An active engagement. 192 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: Can we use another word without in terms of uh 193 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,600 Trump campaign? If they didn't colude. 194 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: That's what you guys accused him of. I'm not gonna 195 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,320 know what Mike. 196 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: See, here's the thing. I'm not letting you retcon this. 197 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,159 I lived through this. I know what was said about Trump. 198 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,559 I wasn't even a Trump supporter and I knew what 199 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:39,120 was being said about Trump. I knew the argument you 200 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:41,440 guys were trying to make. I'm not going to let 201 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,960 you retcon me. I'm not gonna let it happen. I'm 202 00:10:44,039 --> 00:10:46,200 using that term because that's exactly what occurred. 203 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: The media hoax occurred. The hoax occurred. It was completely fabricated. 204 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:56,960 It was fabricated. 205 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: That discussion about whether it was in fact that. 206 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: You think the Steel DOSSI was real. 207 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,399 Speaker 3: The Steel dossier was not the only thing that I'm. 208 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: Not asking you that I'm asking you if the Steele 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,440 dossier was real. 210 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: There was a lot more besides the dossier. 211 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Why can't you just say it wasn't Why can't you 212 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,639 just say if it? Do I think it was real? 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Do you think it was real? 214 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,759 Speaker 3: A lot more there was real? 215 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Mike? Mike, stop talking, Mike. 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to make an argument. I'm asking 217 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,360 you what you think? Do you think it was real? 218 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Real? Defined as how true? Do you think a lot 219 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,200 of things? A lot of things in it that were 220 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:40,679 later proven to be true. Some things were not, Oh 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,720 my gosh. But the point is the point. 222 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: It was completely discredited. 223 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: More, there was a lot more of the investigation other 224 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:48,360 than dossier, a lot more. 225 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been covering. I've been covering a lot of it. 226 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,519 You should go back and listen to the podcasts. I 227 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,440 appreciate the call. All right, if you're listening to this show, 228 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,000 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 229 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,039 of current events, and I know you do too. And 230 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,919 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, 231 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,679 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 232 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,879 I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Your subscription 246 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:54,960 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 247 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,240 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 248 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Here's a Pete tweet from Moral Compass, who says that 249 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,440 call with Mike shows how when the left loses the argument, 250 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:08,600 they redefine terms like collusion. 251 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: Like, I stand by Russia collusion hoax, because that's what 253 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:19,360 we were told Donald Trump was doing, that Russia had 254 00:13:19,399 --> 00:13:24,799 dirt on him, they had compromat Russia, or that Trump 255 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,440 really liked Vladimir Putin, he was Putin's puppet, he was 256 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:36,440 doing the bidding of putin the whole Alpha Bank lie, right, 257 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:43,360 that hoax, Like, here's the thing, and this is a 258 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:48,799 It's difficult for people who are embedded in an institution 259 00:13:49,159 --> 00:13:54,519 or a community or a political party to see that 260 00:13:54,639 --> 00:14:02,879 people around them may behave badly. And I think that 261 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,080 is why a lot of people in the media on 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,159 the left, but I repeat myself, that's why they cannot 263 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:15,720 break free of the Trump derangement syndrome, even when the 264 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:22,039 evidence is now clear from all of these different intelligence 265 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,799 agencies and the analysts that did the work and kept 266 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,159 saying to their superiors like no, no, this isn't provable. 267 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:32,919 There's no evidence to support this. This is low confidence 268 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:39,200 and everything. And there's also this belief that our guys. 269 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:39,679 Speaker 1: Wouldn't do that. 270 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: There's no way, like, like, I understand not liking Trump, 271 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,080 but there's a whole bunch of other stuff that he 272 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:49,480 actually has done and said that you cannot like him 273 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:52,759 for you know, you don't have to go with these lies. 274 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,159 And I don't understand this point. I mean, like you 275 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,000 were lied to also, Democrats, It wasn't us. Now, there 276 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,120 was a whole bunch of extra crap piled on top 277 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:07,600 of us at the time by people like you that 278 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,120 called me even though I didn't even support Trump. In 279 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:15,679 twenty sixteen, I got called Putin's puppet. Oh, you're just 280 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,559 helping the Russians, You're a spy. I got all of 281 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,919 these names called to me, as did all Trump supporters. 282 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:27,039 So no, I'm not going to let people now try 283 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,399 to rewrite what I remember going through, because while you 284 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,200 guys may have been dishing it out back then, like 285 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:40,759 we remember what it felt like to take that. This 286 00:15:40,919 --> 00:15:45,240 is from Superstan the man on Twitter. He sounds super 287 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:48,919 Democrats love and count on your last caller. They can 288 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,279 be lied to and manipulated, knowing if the truth is 289 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,720 ever presented to them, they'll never believe it and stay 290 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:56,799 firmly in the Democrat camp. And he sounds intelligent. Mike 291 00:15:56,919 --> 00:16:00,440 is that's saying. Mike is a smart guy. But and 292 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,320 that's why I think sometimes it's difficult for him to 293 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,960 try to make these arguments. 294 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:07,879 Speaker 1: But let me jump over and get Nick on. Hello, Nick, 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,480 how you doing. I'm good? What's up? 296 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to gas like your show, but I 297 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,679 will tell you I am your twin. I am like you. 298 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 I am not left, I'm not right I'm in the middle. 299 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,399 We don't kiss Trump's but we don't care. But he 300 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:25,720 is a good president. I am sixty years old. I 301 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,600 moved to Waxhaw nineteen years ago. So all the Liberals 302 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 are coming from the blue run states because they don't 303 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:36,440 like it. But I will tell you this, people are brainwashed, 304 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:39,879 so don't and this is true. I'm known a guy 305 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:43,120 since I was twenty one. I'm sixty years old. I 306 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,399 wouldn't believe it if I didn't hear it out of 307 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:48,320 his mouth. He thought Trump when he was running for 308 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,840 the second time, he was going to be a dictator. 309 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:53,519 And you know what I told him, change the channel, 310 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,039 get off the channel, because they literally brainwash you buy 311 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,279 the phones and TV and if you change the channel 312 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,400 and open your eyes. But here's the problem. The Lord 313 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,680 made a lot of us, a lot of us. He 314 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,279 didn't give a blank. He gave a train ticket. And 315 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:11,440 I hate to say it, there's a lot of us 316 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,960 in this world. We grew up in the sixties and 317 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:17,640 seventies and we understand stuff. But that's what I like 318 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,640 about you. You always get to the truth. Try people 319 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,160 don't like to hear the truth, and that is the 320 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,720 honest to God truth. 321 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Nick. I appreciate the call. I got to run. I 322 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:31,759 appreciate the call. Thanks for the kind word. 323 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 4: Thank you, and I keep listening. 324 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: All right, thank you. 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They tried to pressure 358 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:53,599 a whistleblower over at the office of the Director of 359 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:59,359 National Intelligence, the top senior analyst. They wouldn't show them 360 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,519 the Steele DOSSI. So he's like, I'm not going to 361 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:05,839 concur with this ICA. You need to concur this way, 362 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,720 we'll get the Pentagon on board. He's like, I'm not 363 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:09,200 going to do it unless you show me what you're 364 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,960 telling me exists. They refuse to show him. He doesn't 365 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,799 sign on. They say you're not going to get a promotion. 366 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,880 That's the new information that came out yesterday. So this 367 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,279 is in that same time period. December eighteenth, twenty sixteen, 368 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,559 a top aide to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign said it 369 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:30,359 was an open question whether President elect Donald Trump's advisors 370 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,519 colluded with Russia to hack into Democratic Party emails to 371 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:41,480 try to sway the November eighth election. John Podesta, the 372 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:46,119 Clinton campaign chairman, said there was evidence that Trump associates 373 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,680 had contact with a Russian intelligence official and the website 374 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,240 WikiLeaks before US intelligence agencies accused Russia of being behind 375 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:59,640 computer attacks of Democratic emails, including Podesta, and what we 376 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,000 found doubt what four days ago. What we found out 377 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:10,960 was that the FBI never saw the compromised servers. They 378 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,799 never could confirm because CrowdStrike that was hired by the 379 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:21,000 Democrat Party to track down who hacked them. CrowdStrike said 380 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,279 it was the Russians and then refused to offer any 381 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:28,720 proof to the FBI, which is why the FBI said, yeah, 382 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:34,279 we don't think this was them. Low confidence was their 383 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:41,480 assessment at the time. Low confidence, and then it got 384 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:46,480 changed for no reason. Nobody understands why, except this Steele 385 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:47,559 dossier comes along. 386 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: I guess. 387 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,559 Speaker 2: But they said low confidence and then it got changed 388 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:57,359 to high confidence in order to promote this idea that 389 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,519 Russia hacked the election. It was purposefully conflated. I said, 390 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:07,079 here's the I have the audio. 391 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,039 Speaker 1: Here you go, Russia hacking the election to elect Trump. 392 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,839 Speaker 5: What is the end of our boxras Every votes were 393 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,400 definitely affected, But you're Russia hacked the election to tilted 394 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,039 to mister Trump. 395 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:18,279 Speaker 2: The Russians definitively hacked the election. 396 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: Russia did hack the election, no doubt. 397 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: The Russians hacked the election. 398 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Russia hacked the election. 399 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: Packed Russia hacked the election. President elect Donald Trump still 400 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,880 not sounding convinced that Russia hacked the election. 401 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:34,279 Speaker 5: If you can get them to accept that Russia hacked 402 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,240 the election, see if you can get him to accept 403 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,079 who won the Civil War. The Director of National Intelligence, 404 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,440 the head of the National Security Agency, the head of 405 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,799 the FBI, all of these intelligence experts saying Russia hacked 406 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,480 the intelligence at Russia hacked the election. 407 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,599 Speaker 2: The FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the former Director of 408 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,279 National Intelligence, James Clapper. 409 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:55,279 Speaker 1: I mean, they've all said this. So to believe that 410 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:56,039 that's wrong. 411 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: You have to believe they're all involved in an elaborate 412 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:05,160 conspiracy to get Donald Trump. Yes, yes, I do. And 413 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,279 the evidence bears that out because he was promising to 414 00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:12,319 come in and blow up all of these institutions that 415 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,720 they cared more about than the democracy. And that's what 416 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:22,640 really should concern people, is that this small group of 417 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,359 people were able to weaponize and manipulate in order to 418 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,920 try to. 419 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: Well rig an. 420 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: Election to quote Donald Trump, right, that was the that's 421 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,400 the point. It was to put their thumb on the 422 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,400 scale and try to stop Trump from winning. And then when, 423 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,519 horror of horrors, Hillary Clinton does not win, which most 424 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:49,839 of them thought she would. When she doesn't, now you 425 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,400 got to kneecap the guy. And that's why in December, 426 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,519 they're still talking about Russia collusion. Their word. So no, 427 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,519 I don't drop the word collusion, and I'm not dropping 428 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:04,119 the word hoax, because that's what this was. It was 429 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,720 a hoax. The DNC email hack was pinned on Russia. 430 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,359 No evidence presented to the FBI to this day. And 431 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,079 then that's when the Clinton campaign starts saying that they 432 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,119 did it to help Trump. I think it was a 433 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,640 nick who called in before the news. It says, friend, 434 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,039 truly believe that Donald Trump is a dictator or would 435 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,880 be a dictator or something. And I remembered a very 436 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,640 similar conversation I had with an old neighbor and sweet 437 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,839 old lady, but she was from California. 438 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: She was a liberal and so and when she found. 439 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: Out what I did, she would come over and want 440 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,240 to talk politics with me. 441 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: And she was very concerned. This was five years ago whatever. 442 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: She was very concerned that Donald Trump would become a dictator. 443 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,519 And I said, well, what is your evidence to support that? 444 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,519 And she said, I just I think he's not going 445 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:06,119 to leave office if he gets elected again. And I said, 446 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,559 but he did leave office, well but January sixth, Well, yes, 447 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,720 but he did leave office, right, Like, wouldn't that have 448 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:17,880 been the perfect time when you've got an army of 449 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,359 your supporters out front, admittedly unarmed, but still like, you 450 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,279 got all these people out there. If you were going 451 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,559 to be the dictator, then wouldn't that be the perfect. 452 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: Time to do it? 453 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: But he didn't, That's what I mean, Like, so what 454 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:39,519 other evidence do you have to support this idea that 455 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,799 he's going to be this thing that you fear, so 456 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,400 therefore saying, look, this is part of the problem when 457 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,559 when you suffer from the TDS, when you think Donald 458 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:50,240 Trump is a Nazi, all of his supporters are Nazis. Right, 459 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,400 you're saving democracy. The lane in which you get to 460 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:01,960 ride in to prevent literally the next Hitler, the orange hitler. Right, 461 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,160 that lane gets very wide, and you can start justifying 462 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,279 all sorts of stuff, like accusing him of being a 463 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:21,000 Russian asset based on concocted intelligence assessments. Right, you are 464 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,759 totally justified in doing that because you're saving democracy, you're 465 00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:30,200 saving America. It's a very dangerous path, it's a very 466 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:35,079 dangerous way of thinking. I'm glad the information has all 467 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680 been declassified, or I don't know, there could be more 468 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,759 stuff coming out. I don't even know. I'd love to 469 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:46,640 find out if there's more stuff, but this sincerity and 470 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,640 certainty that democrats in the media. But I repeat myself 471 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:57,759 that they had about this Kakammy theory and they hammered it. 472 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: I remember it. 473 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,599 Speaker 2: That's just a small sam It was a constant drum beat. 474 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240 I covered it, We talked about it on the show 475 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,960 all the time, and I kept waiting for where's this evidence, Like. 476 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,559 Speaker 1: Oh, what do you think this means? What do you 477 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,799 think this means? Oh, the hack and like okay, but 478 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,559 there's never anything. 479 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: Julian Assange has said that no state actor gave WikiLeaks 480 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,319 the DNC emails. They didn't get it from Russia. No, 481 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:29,480 But I know it's very difficult to convince people that 482 00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:31,960 they've been deceived, that they have been deceived. You know, 483 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,559 stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 484 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,000 to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of 485 00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:41,359 our past while transcending generations. They help us process the 486 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,839 meaning of life, and our stories are told through images 487 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,680 and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in 488 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:51,480 nineteen ninety seven and mint Hill, North Carolina. 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They are your life told 499 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 through the eyes of everyone around you and all who 500 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:30,720 came before you, and they will tell others to come 501 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,039 who you are. Visit creative video dot com. Let's go 502 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,400 back to that December twenty sixteen Reuter's story. As they're 503 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,759 interviewing John Podesta, former chairman of the Hillary Clinton campaign. 504 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,680 He had his emails hacked along with the DNC, and 505 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:56,799 he accuses the Russians of doing it in order to 506 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,960 help Trump win. Remember Ryan's previous incoming White House chief 507 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,200 of staff. At the time, he rejected the notion that 508 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,839 Trump Bore his associates were aware of and in touch 509 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,920 with the Russians during the hack attack. He said, even 510 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,279 the question is insane. Of course, we don't interface with 511 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:22,240 the Russians. Russia denied the US accusations also, but on Friday, 512 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,039 US President Barack Obama suggested that Russian President Vladimir Putin 513 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:38,160 personally authorized the Democratic Party email hacks. How would he 514 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:44,440 know that? This is right after that Intelligence community assessment 515 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,319 got revised, But there wasn't anything in there that said 516 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:53,160 Putin personally authorized the hacking of the DNC emails. There 517 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,960 was never any evidence of that. So why would Obama 518 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:03,440 say it? This is the smear, This is the hoax. Right, 519 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:05,559 You take these things and wait till you hear more 520 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,079 like knowing what we know now going back and reading this, 521 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,960 see people want to forget what the climate was like 522 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:15,079 and what was being said and what was being reported 523 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:16,559 on right. 524 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: Leaked email Where was I? 525 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,319 Speaker 2: Trump and his team have rejected claims that Russian hacking 526 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,000 helped him win the election and blame Democrats for trying 527 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:34,240 to delegitimize the election results. Leaked emails revealed details of 528 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,319 paid speeches Clinton gave to Wall Street Party in fighting, 529 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,400 and comments from top aids to Clinton who were shocked 530 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440 about the extent of her use of a private server 531 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,759 to send emails while US Secretary of State. Podesta pointed 532 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:59,759 specifically to Trump associates Roger Stone and Carter Page. Remember him, 533 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:07,759 I do, Carter Page. Podesta accused Stone of having advanced 534 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,119 warning of the Russian hacks, accused him of meeting with 535 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,359 Julian Assange of WikiLeaks. Podesta accused Page of having met 536 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,279 with the person in the Russian hierarchy who was responsible 537 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:25,480 for collecting intelligence and what we found out right, they 538 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,880 took the wire tab warned that, they went to the 539 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,000 fis A court. They lied in their fires A court 540 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,240 application so they could eavesdrop on Carter Page. And the 541 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:41,480 lie that was in that warrant application was when the 542 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:46,559 FBI asked the CIA, Hey, we're going for a warrant 543 00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:50,200 on this guy Carter Page. Is he one of yours? 544 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,640 Basically do you have any association with this guy? And 545 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,759 the CIA said yes, yeah, he's one of ours. He's 546 00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:02,039 not an agent or anything, but he's a businessman and 547 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,759 he when he goes to Russia and does whatever business 548 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,319 dealings he does over there, he comes back and briefs us, 549 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,920 He tells his stuff that's going on. And the FBI 550 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:20,240 with knowing that, when they filled out their warrant application. 551 00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:23,599 They said he has no contacts with any Intel agencies. 552 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,359 Speaker 1: So they lied. 553 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,039 Speaker 2: Klin Smith was the lawyer who did that, and he 554 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,640 got a slap on the wrist by the DC bar. 555 00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,680 He's still practicing law. I think they suspended his law 556 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,599 license for like a year or something. So they lied 557 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,920 to get the wiretap on Carter Page. Like they're just 558 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:52,799 throwing around all of these accusations at these people in 559 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,799 Trump World. They're just lying. They were lying then, and 560 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:03,759 they had no information that proved Russia did this. You know, 561 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,799 Russia probably had all of the emails off of Hillary 562 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:11,640 Clinton server, you know that right like that when Komi 563 00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:15,519 was asked, you know, is it possible that her server 564 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,720 was hacked by foreign governments? And he said it's it 565 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:26,799 is quite likely, yes, because there was unprotected and they 566 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,000 knew about her emails and her server and they probably 567 00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:35,720 had real time access to it. That's not Trump's fault. 568 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,960 And we also know, based on the now declassified intel 569 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:48,200 that the that the leadership buried was that Vladimir Putin 570 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:52,160 actually thought Hillary was going to win. People inside the 571 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,519 intelligence that was coming out of Russia from people that 572 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,200 were around Vladimir put Like, he thought Hillary was going 573 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,079 to win and actually had no preference, did not care 574 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:08,800 one way or the other because he didn't think the 575 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:15,119 policy towards Russia would change either way. He didn't care. Now, 576 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,760 what they do care about is sewing chaos. Hence the 577 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,199 memes and the Facebook trolling and all of that, like 578 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,559 that that's to sew chaos. Russia wants us to fight internally, 579 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,679 and so that's why they were on both sides of 580 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,719 the BLM thing. They were running Facebook message or groups. 581 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,159 They did a rally here in town for a was 582 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,320 it Black Matter Lives or something like that. It was 583 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,320 like a play on the words. 584 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: There was a story. 585 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: Charlotte Observer did a story about it and how the 586 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,480 guy that was that was organizing it and he got 587 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,599 he met the person who was like the money person. 588 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,519 It was some Russian woman with a bodyguard that you know, 589 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,079 was like seven feet tall and six hundred pounds, like 590 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,960 a massive mountain of a guy. Didn't say anything, so like, yeah, 591 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,360 they they interfered. Yeah, absolutely, did it change votes? There's 592 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719 no evidence of that, and studies were attempted, but there's 593 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,239 no evidence of that. Yeah, So again, like that's why 594 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 I'm saying, like this is gaslighting to tell me that 595 00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:20,360 what I lived through and what I saw that I 596 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,119 didn't and I know I did. All right, that'll do 597 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,719 it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 598 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,960 I could not do the show without your support and 599 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,719 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 600 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,159 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 601 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:36,920 them you heard it here. 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