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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of Dragging That.

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nineteen fifty one, here is the big overtime.

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Speaker 2: He The story you were about to hear is true.

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The names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant. You're assigned to homicide detail. A twenty

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two year old girl has been abducted. Her family receives

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an anonymous message. The abductive demands thirty thousand dollars for

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the safe return of the girl.

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Speaker 3: Your job get.

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Speaker 4: Him Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. Well

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police violence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.

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Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 5: It was Tuesday, October eighteenth. That was cloudy in Los Angeles.

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We were working the early morning watch out a homicide.

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My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Thad Brown, Chief

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of Detectives.

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Speaker 3: My name is Friday.

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Speaker 5: I was on the way back from the Stat's office

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and it was three twenty six am when I got

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to Room forty two homicide.

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Speaker 3: Hi Brian, Hi, that's the mugshots you wanted. Joe Ego, Oh,

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thank you?

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Speaker 6: The Captain Levia Hey waiting for me in the garage.

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Speaker 3: You call back. I'm going to write now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I guess I better hustle it. See you

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out there right, Brian. I'm sorry to wake you.

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Speaker 7: Ben.

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Speaker 3: This is Joe. How are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Oh a hi Joe?

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Speaker 3: What time is it? Three thirty am? How's a sore throat?

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Speaker 2: Is it not better?

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Speaker 3: I want to be back to work tomorrow. We need

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you now. Ben, you want to be ready about twenty minutes.

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I'll pick you up. Twenty minutes.

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Speaker 8: Okay, what's a minute.

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Speaker 3: Man by the name of Martin Sullivan official down at

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the Third National Bank.

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Speaker 5: He's got a twenty two year old daughter, already had one.

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Speaker 3: She's gone.

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Speaker 5: Less than fourteen hours before at one o'clock the previous

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afternoons with Sullivan was last scene driving off in a

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car with a man who'd represented himself as a friend

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of her father's.

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Speaker 3: About eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 5: That night, the Sullivan family received an anonymous letter demanding

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thirty thousand dollars for the safe return of the girl.

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It had been the only contact made thus far by

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the abductor. As soon as we got word of what

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had happened from the girl's father, a broadcast and an

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APB had been gotten out. The entire force throughout the

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city had been alerted. Three forty four am. I pulled

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up in front of Ben's house.

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Speaker 3: That good morning. Hi, you made good time. Hey, where

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are we headed?

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Speaker 5: The Sullivan home out on Castro Boulevard. Thad Brown's out

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there now with Brian and In leeds to go on.

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Speaker 3: No, not so far.

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Speaker 5: The girl disappeared a little before one o'clock yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Note from the abductor came through last night. They're asking

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thirty thousand.

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Speaker 5: I don't get it. Sullivan hasn't got that kind of money.

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And I know that poor guys almost out of his mind.

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Missus Sullivan too, they're all broken up in How did

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it happened? Well, the girl was taken from a business

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school that she goes to. Man had her called out

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a class. He told her father was sick, said he

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was a friend of the families.

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Speaker 3: How about the teachers, what was their story?

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Speaker 5: Well, I said the girl didn't want to go with

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a man at first, but he finally talked her into it,

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kept telling her father was dying.

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Speaker 3: Yea's the thing. Did he use the car?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, blue sedan, that's all we know. Witnesses didn't get

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the make of the license number. Any description on the man. Yeah,

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they say about five feet nine hundred and sixty, brown

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suit and dark hair.

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Speaker 3: You know that's it. Here's a copy of the letter

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that the Sullivan's got. You can read. It's the usual.

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Speaker 9: All right, I have your daughter, Judy get thirty thousand

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dollars quick. If you want her back alive, don't call

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police or I'll kill her. Contact you later, signed the

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wool who's the kid?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I could think of a better name.

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Here we are. Who's got the original note? Joey? I

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am lad there checking it for Prince and handwriting.

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Speaker 6: Hi Joe Romero in living Thank you Doe.

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Speaker 8: That's the way I see it, mister Sullivan. You understand

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exactly what.

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Speaker 3: You have to do now.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I'll do as you say, all right, sir. Here

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the two men will help you. Serge in Friday and

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Romero Central homicide. Alright, mister Brown, are you sure about

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all this?

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Speaker 6: I keep thinking he might get frightened, he might do

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something to it.

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Speaker 9: Believe me, mister Sullivan. It's the only way I know

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how you must feel. But we can't do anything else.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 9: I want to see missus Sullivan first, when you excuse me,

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be ready in a moment.

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Speaker 6: All right, fine, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Cheap? Any development?

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Speaker 9: Back here in the dining room? Yeah, it's it on

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the table. Second note from the guy?

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Speaker 3: When did it come? Half an hour ago? Guy?

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Speaker 9: I had delivered by a special messenger. He used a

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plain envelope messenger. Kid didn't know anything about it, doesn't

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remember what the guy looked like.

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Speaker 5: Let's see Joe, Yeah, he says, meet me an Alesioned

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park five o'clock this morning, near a bulk and drive

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come alone, Bring thirty thousand. We'll return girl. They'll tell

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the cops. I'll kill her if you do. It's the

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same signature wolf. Not much time, Chief, it's four am.

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Speaker 9: Now I know what we'll have to do. As he says,

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there's no other way. Sullivan's going out there alone, as.

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Speaker 8: You're going with him, You and Romera and be hidden

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in the trunk of his car.

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Speaker 3: All right, anything else? Any plan you want us to follow?

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Got him? That's four or fifteen am.

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Speaker 5: Ben and I went out back to the garage where

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mister Sullivan's car was parked. We jammed ourselves into the

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trunk compartment and Brian closed the door on us. The

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latch was rigged so that we could push open the

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door from the inside. A few minutes later, mister Sullivan

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came out, got in the car, and we drove off.

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At three minutes to five, we pulled up at the

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designated meeting place up in Allegian Park, We waited, nothing happened.

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Five minutes past five a m. Still nothing outside. It

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started the thunder rain starting, man, Wendy, Yeah we're here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kinda coming up the road toward us.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like yeah, man, yeah, coming over this way, Yeah,

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sounds that way doesn't come already? A right?

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Speaker 5: Easy coming back here?

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Speaker 3: Watching now.

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Speaker 8: Right, riding imbout chiefs that you. Yeah, I'm not after meeting.

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Speaker 3: I'm breaking m LA.

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Speaker 9: Mister Sullivan, you want to drive back home? We'll contact

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you there, yes, sir, all right, come on, let's get.

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Speaker 3: Over the car. Right. What's the story? Did he scare off?

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Speaker 9: The guy had no intention of following through the league?

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How come he told us he phoned a couple of

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minutes before five am. We tried to trace the call.

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He wouldn't stay on the line long or what do

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you have to say? A couple of things. Number one,

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he wants more money. Number two, he knows we're working

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the case.

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Speaker 8: What was the reaction? Names, he doesn't care. We'll never

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get him anyway.

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Speaker 3: Well, how's the thing stand now?

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Speaker 6: Fifty thousand dollars he wants it. In the next twelve hours.

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Speaker 5: More than sixteen hours had passed since word of Judy

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Sullivan's abduction had been phoned into homicide. During that time,

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an APB containing the descriptions of the suspect, his car,

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and his victim had been dispatched to law enforcement agencies

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throughout the entire area. The same descriptions were being broadcast

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every hour. The Sullivan home had been placed under strict surveillance,

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and mister Sullivan instructed to contact the suspect without the

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knowledge of the police. The girl's father had raised almost

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ten thousand dollars in cash to buy him off, and

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the serial numbers on each one of the bills had

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been copied by a police stenographer and rechecked by a

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homicide officer. So far, the wolf, as he called himself,

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had made three separate contacts, but he'd covered his tracks well.

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We knew he was somewhere in the city, four hundred

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and fifty square miles of it. We knew we had

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to find him. Six eighteen am we checked back into homicide.

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Speaker 3: What's doing Broy here?

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Speaker 10: Just copy the letter Fellas Special delivery came in about

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twenty five minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, huh, that's the same handwriting. It looks like.

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Speaker 9: Check the postmarks Jill must have mailed it right after

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he grabbed a girl. Let me see, stay away from Sullivan.

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If the girl's found dead, it's your fault.

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Speaker 3: Stay away, woolf It seemed to make up his mind.

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Speaker 5: Huh They checking the original of this for Prince Tom Yeah,

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no word yet.

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Speaker 3: How about that second note? Anything on that? Uh? Huh?

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Speaker 6: Stah lifted a couple of princes running on R and I.

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Speaker 3: Who's watching Sullivan house now?

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Speaker 5: Gomez and Thaxter chiefs out there too. He's still afraid

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the girl's father will try to make a deal with

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Speaker 3: He tried it yet? No, not yet. Well, he couldn't

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blame him if he did. He's worried, sick. I'm got it.

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Speaker 8: Homicside from now a right?

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Speaker 3: Try? How do you spell it? Okay? Right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks a lot, Record Bureau. Those two prints still

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lifted from a letter. Run him to the single print file.

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Any luck, they got a mink.

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Speaker 5: The fingerprint that was lifted from the suspects letter was

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identified as belonging to a Donald Alfred Kiefer, WMA, aged

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twenty nine, five feet eight inches, one hundred and seventy pounds,

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brown eyes, dark brown hair.

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Speaker 3: He had one.

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Speaker 5: Previous arrest for forgery in Los Angeles ten months before.

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At the time of his arrest, Keeper's occupation was listed

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as a bank clerk at the Third National Bank. I

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went down the hall of the record bureau to pull

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the crime report. Brian checked by Layton Prince to see

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if they'd gotten anything off the last note from the suspect.

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Ben went to check with Don Meyer and handwriting. Seven

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twenty three am. Chief bad Brown got back to the office.

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I showed him Keeper's crime report.

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Speaker 3: All right, what's the rundown on it? Well, at the.

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Speaker 5: Time Keifer pulled the forgery job at the bank, mister

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Sullivan was one of the vice presidents. He was the

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one that preferred charges against Keifer, and he saw that

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he was prosecuted.

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Speaker 3: Where's this Keifer? Now, let me check that it was

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placed on probation.

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Speaker 5: On May sixteenth this year, he returned to his home

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in Omaha, Nebraska. That's thirteen eighty McK and I avenue.

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Speaker 3: You call Omaha. I got the call in now.

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Speaker 5: Ben took an exemplar of Keefer's handwriting from the package.

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Speaker 3: Don Meyer's going over it.

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Speaker 8: Now, Chief Hi, what about that last note?

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Speaker 3: I got the report right? Here.

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Speaker 10: How's it look well, Stallft, that's some prince off It

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brought him out with the ion fume gun. They matched

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with the first. There's something else, what's that? They examined

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the paper for watermarks and texture. Both notes are written

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on the same paper. Impressions show both pieces the paper

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from the same TABN checked the density of the carbon

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and the pencil they used. Both specimens match same pencil.

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Speaker 3: Joe, Hi, did you catch up a down run man? Yeah?

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He went over. The handwriting looks pretty good. What's the word?

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As close as you can get here.

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Speaker 9: They're two exemplars Flanc's crosses double loops, his ale open

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as prasure on the Downstow Donald Keefer the wool, same handwriting.

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Speaker 5: By noontime, Donald Keeper's description had been broadcast throughout the

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entire area. Bulletins were dispatched to all departments, and a

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supplementary APB was gotten out. Special details were stationed at

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every post office in the city to watch for notes

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from the suspect that might come through the mail. The

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bus depots, railroad terminals, the airports, and all main roads

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leading out of the city were kept under strict surveillance.

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The entire Los Angeles area was broken down into single

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square mile districts and a house to house canvas was started.

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A squad of men were assign to cover each square mile.

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Outlying towns and cities were requested to do the same.

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By four o'clock that afternoon, one of the greatest dragnet

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operations in the history of the city was underway. We

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were sure Donald Keeper was somewhere inside. Five twelve pm,

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we got the call back from the Omaha police.

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Speaker 3: Is that so again? Please?

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Speaker 8: What was that six x ray four to one nine

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Nebraska plates?

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Speaker 3: Right? Find lieutenant? Thank you, Bry They made the car.

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Speaker 9: That and a lot more. The Omaha cops are looking

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for Keeper too, and they want him for a robbery.

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Speaker 3: There're two months ago.

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Speaker 9: Huh he used to stolen blue Sedanan in robbery in

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nineteen thirty nine, model Nebraska plate six x ray four

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one nine.

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Speaker 3: What about his family and friends? They've been checked.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they say Keifer left Omaha about six weeks ago.

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I don't know where he was heading. We better get

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that car description in the communic cases. Huh, apb in

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a radiogram?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right?

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Speaker 9: Friday, Mary, Yeah, what are you tied up with? Just

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got a call back from Omaha. Make on Keifer in

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the car, give it to me. You two get out

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to sell them in the house. Fat so you can't

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see Harris out there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what happened? Mister Sullivan has disappeared.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police

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force in action.

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Speaker 5: Wednesday, October nineteenth, five forty eight pm, Ben and I

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drove out to the Sullivan home where we checked with

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Bert Harris, the man who had been assigned to watch

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mister Sullivan.

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Speaker 3: He told us that at about three o'clock.

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Speaker 5: That afternoon, the father of the missing girl had a

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phone call.

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Speaker 3: He said he had to go down to the bank,

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and Harris went with him.

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Speaker 5: While he were at the bank, mister Sullivan succeeded in

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decoying Harris with a fake telephone call. While Harris was

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answering the call, Sullivan disappeared.

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Speaker 8: Did mister Sullivan get any more money while he was

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at the bank.

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Speaker 3: By yeah, five thousand dollars? Did you get the serial

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numbers off the bills? I shouldn't let him get out

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of my sight. I forget it right now. We've got

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to find out where he's going to meet Keifer diould

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you talk to missus Sullivan about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So she doesn't know anything about it. Where is she now?

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Back in the sitting room, lying down? Now, let's try

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her again how she might be able to help. Okay,

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it's back this way. What time he got, Jim, it's

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five minutes past six?

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how's that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where are you? Oh? Where are you? Where are you?

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All right? We'll be right out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, missus Sullivan he met with Keifer out and Laurel Canyon.

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Speaker 3: Did he get his daughter back? Yeah? He did. Wrapped

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in newspaper.

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Speaker 5: All units in the area were notified immediately that a

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contact had been made with the suspect, Donald Keefer. We

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got in the car and we drove out to Laurel Canyon.

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The entire area had been blocked off. We found Martin

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Sullivan standing in the middle of the road. At the

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end of East Winding Way. Five hundred feet down the

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hill was a private residence where Sullivan and telephoned his

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the only building in the immediate vicinity. A few yards

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beyond the point where East Winding Way ended back in

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a clump of tall grass, we found the body of

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twenty two year old Judy Sullivan. We notified the crime

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lab chief Fat Brown in the corner. Despite the severe

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emotional shock, mister Sullivan told us the story.

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Speaker 9: He said, Judy was all right. I believed him. I

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wanted her back, Judy. I tricked the officer, the one

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watching me. Keifer said to come alone, no police. Did

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you see his car, mister Sullivan. I wanted her back.

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I wanted Judy back. I did as he said. I

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drove out here at six o'clock.

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Speaker 6: I waited. I put the money on the front seat,

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like you said.

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Speaker 3: Did he get the money, sir?

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Speaker 9: And then I got out. I left the parking lights on.

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I stood up there by the end of the road

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and I waited, and then he drove up. He took

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the money, and then he came up to me. He

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had a gun. I wanted Judy back. He had a gun.

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Speaker 3: Did you see his car? He said?

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Speaker 7: She was up.

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Speaker 9: There beyond the road. She was tied to a tree.

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He said, I wanted her back.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, mister Sullivan, did you see his car.

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Speaker 9: I went to look for Judy. He drove away. She

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wasn't there by the tree. I couldn't find her.

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Speaker 3: Not the way back.

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Speaker 7: I saw the bump on the way, Yes, sir, lord,

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let me find it.

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Speaker 9: Although I left kill him before he collapsed completely.

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Speaker 5: We showed the dead girl's father a picture of Donald

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Keefer and he identified him definitely. The information was immediately

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relayed back to Central Division and rebroadcast over our entire

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radio system. Teletypes were dispatched to sheriff's offices and communications

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sent to law enforcement agencies throughout the country. Nine fifty

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two PM, the house to house search was intensified. The

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dragnet operation in which we hoped to trap the killer

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was drawing slowly inward. A few minutes before midnight, Ben

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and I drove back downtown to the crime lab to

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check with Lieutenant Lee Jones.

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Speaker 3: Ay, Fillas, come on back, anything yealy?

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Speaker 11: Just checking over these tolls here, I'm rapped around the

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girl's body inside the papers, any thing about it?

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Speaker 3: What's that? Oh?

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Speaker 11: Yesterday's papers. Every story about the girl's disappearance has been

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clipped out.

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Speaker 3: How about the towels, any laundry marks at all?

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Speaker 11: Way, nothing so far, Joe, every one of them clipped

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off log posts the body.

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Speaker 3: Yet they're doing it now, nasty one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, any footprints or tire marks out where? They

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found the body.

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Speaker 8: Oh, lots of them.

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Speaker 3: Got two of the men checking them.

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Speaker 8: Now, one thing, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Men? I don't know. Under the seam here this towel.

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Speaker 11: Wait a minute, give me that pair of snippers. Way jo, Yeah,

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there you go, thanks, pressed back under the seam.

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Speaker 3: Here there it's one tag he missed. Yeah, can you

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read the marking?

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Speaker 11: Greenway Apartments, Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Twelve thirty four am.

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Speaker 5: We located the Greenway Apartments in the East Wiltshire district

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and we checked with a manager. He identified Keeper's mugshot,

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but he said he hadn't been home to the apartment

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since the day before. We called the crime lab and

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we went up to check the suspects apartment. One look

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was enough. Lieutenant Lee Jones found specimens of the Sullivan

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girl's blood in the wash basin and the bathtub drains.

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Speaker 3: In an adjoining garage, we found.

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Speaker 5: The car which Keefer had used, a blue Sedan Nebraska

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plates six X ray four one nine. A cancelation of

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the want order for the car was issued in a

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stake out placed at the apartment in the garage in

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case Keeper.

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Speaker 3: Decided to return.

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Speaker 5: All that night and into the next day, the city

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wide dragnet went on, was no sign of the killer.

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At ten minutes past two that afternoon, the first piece

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of ransom money showed up. It was at a used

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car lot on the corner of Beverly and Naylor Streets.

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Two hours later, another piece of the money turned up

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at a busy downtown department store. In both cases, the

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man who passed the stolen money was finally identified as

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Donald Keefer. Details were strengthened in both areas where the

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money appeared. The search went on six forty two pm.

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Then and I got a call to Meat Chief Thad

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Brown at the Hollywood Division station. Tommy Bryant from Central

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Homicide was within us.

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Speaker 3: This is the way it stacks up. Now.

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Speaker 9: This pin map over here, This is where we're concentrating

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the search in this area here.

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Speaker 8: How about the lead we had on him downtown? Didn't

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it work out?

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Speaker 9: The last twenty minutes we picked up three possible leads

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on the man out in this neighborhood here. He's divined

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south of Franklin, west of Librea, north of Santamoni.

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Speaker 3: More ransom money show up? You got it there, Brian

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rate it off? Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Five thirty five Sunset and Highland newsboy thought he show

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key for crossing the street. Twenty minutes later, a sales

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girl in the diamond store up on Hollywood Boulevard, I

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thought you saw him. Ten minutes after that, he was

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reported seen near the intersection of Hollywood Boulevard and Lost Parmis.

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You figure the reports were reliable and they were all

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checked out. Didn't put too much faith in him til

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a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 9: How's that five dollar bill was passed at a cigar

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store Hollywood Boulevard and Hawthorne. Ransom money. We've already doubled

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the number of men and cars in the area, men

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stationed at every intersection to keep an eye on pedestrian traffic.

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We're covering everything, streets, stores, covering the whole neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I'll get it, Brian, Yeah, just a minute, you chief?

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Oh that Brian?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where how when was that? No?

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Speaker 9: Stay there, We'll be right there. Goodbye. Another piece of

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rentsom money?

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Speaker 3: Where to turn up?

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Speaker 9: The theater in Hollywood Boulevard between Fairview and Hawthorne.

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Speaker 3: Who passed the money?

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Speaker 9: They think it was Keifer and positive they say he's

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in the theater right now.

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Speaker 5: The information on Keifer was phoned into communications immediately, and

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within a few minutes men and cars converged on the neighborhood.

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The one half mile area around the theater was completely blockaded.

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Every exit and entrance to the theater was covered. Seven

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twenty three pm, Ben and I, along with Chief Thad

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Brown and Tom Bryan, met in the theater manager's office.

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Brown outlined our plan of operation. At seven thirty two pm,

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a detail of fourteen men walked down the side aisles

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on the main floor of the theater and took up

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their posts on either side of the orchestra pit. The

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picture was stopped and every light in the theater was

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turned on. Chief Brown, Brian Gomez, Faxter, Ben and myself

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went down the aisle and up onto the stage.

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Speaker 3: Chief Brown made the announcement.

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Speaker 12: Ladies and gentlemen, you're hold it quiet for a minute, please, We're.

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Speaker 13: Probably to interrupt the picture of This is a very

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important matter.

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Speaker 12: We're police officers and you've read about it. To the

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Maidens girl to the name of Judy Sullen was abducted

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and murdered day before yesterday. We think we embraced the

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man who murdered her to this there. We believe he's

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in this diner. Now we've gotta search the theater.

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Speaker 3: Robi Rowan, we'd like.

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Speaker 2: To ask your co operation.

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Speaker 8: Don't need to be Maggie.

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Speaker 3: You're afraid.

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Speaker 13: Those who way to lead, now they do.

474
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Speaker 3: So see what the man.

475
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Speaker 4: Each one of you will be checked as you go out.

476
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,559
Speaker 8: Of the door.

477
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:49,519
Speaker 13: But the benefit of the man we're looking for it.

478
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240
Don't try to escape. Every exit is covered. Hi, heard

479
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:59,319
you lucky. Don't place any more lives in jerim all right, ha.

480
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,559
Speaker 9: Come on, Ben, backstage show.

481
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: We can make it from America. All right? Come on,

482
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,720
throw here down here?

483
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Right? Will you in here?

484
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: Come on over here, hair conditioning unit for the theater. Yeah,

485
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,920
I don't see him to you, you can't get out.

486
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,720
There's just two exits. We've got them both covered.

487
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 8: Look out there he is all right, keeper, hold it.

488
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: All right.

489
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 10: Throw your gun over here, come on, throw it out.

490
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it, all right. Let's take him. Yeah,

491
00:25:58,519 --> 00:25:59,960
all right, okay, you got my gun.

492
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: I had to be in your shoot.

493
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: Actually, your force meant the cups on him. Ben here right,

494
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,079
get your hands off of me, all right, taver got

495
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,680
the same for you too. I hold it all right, Ben,

496
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You are right, all right? Try the cuffs on him.

497
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Speaker 9: Now, yeah, yeah, it's starting to rain again.

498
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: Really poorn out there.

499
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.

500
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Speaker 10: You better get him out of the car.

501
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: What's the hurry? How you mean, why spoil a good rain?

502
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

503
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were changed to protect the innocent.

504
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Speaker 4: On January nineteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

505
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eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

506
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In a moment the results of that trial, Donald Alfred

507
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Keeper was tried and convicted of murder in the first degree,

508
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and on the recommendation of the jury, he received the

509
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death penalty. He was executed in the lethal gas chamber

510
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at the State Penitentiary San Quentin, California. You have just

511
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heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files.

512
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Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,

513
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,359
Los Angeles Police Department. Bartney Arborough is Sergeant Ben Romero

514
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,880
also heard work with Connor and Vic Perrin. Script by

515
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,680
Jim Mozy, music by Walter Schumann, Hell Gibney.

516
00:27:38,319 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 14: Speaking Counterspy Fights International Intrigue. Next on NBC, Welcome Back Now.

517
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,799
Speaker 1: This episode sounded familiar to me and not just in

518
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,440
the sense that I've heard it a few times already,

519
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:12,599
but that it sounded like another episode, and indeed it was.

520
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,319
Uh And you actually have to go back to nineteen

521
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,440
forty nine and one of the very early episodes of Dragnett.

522
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:27,279
This was just when the Fatima sponsorship had started, back

523
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,759
on September tenth, nineteen forty nine, in the Sullivan kidnapping. Now,

524
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:37,200
this wasn't so much a script reuse as you often

525
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,079
hear on many detective programs, but it took the same case.

526
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,279
But there were some key changes that were made, and

527
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
a lot of these are minor, but he added up

528
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,519
to quite a bet. One thing is that when the

529
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,640
ransom was paid, this was back when Raymond Bird was

530
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,599
playing at Backstrand, and it made the papers after she'd

531
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,559
been killed, and he said that he hoped that it

532
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:11,200
would stick in people's minds as a reminder we don't

533
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,079
make deals with killers, so essentially offering a bit of

534
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,759
a condemnation of the victim's father for making the payment.

535
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:25,359
In the nineteen forty nine episode, it's established that the

536
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:31,160
killer had been sent to jail for forgery on the

537
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,119
basis of the actions of the father, so this was

538
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160
a bit of revenge, and that's not in the nineteen

539
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,519
fifty one version. And there's also more of the killer

540
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,839
being like, I'm so much smarter than police. That was

541
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,920
referenced once, but it was a much bigger element in

542
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,279
the nineteen forty nine case. And there's a sense in

543
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:01,000
which you get a lot less melodrama and a lot

544
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:08,759
more just straightforward documented case of how the crime was solved. Well,

545
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,000
this is kind of a testament to how Dragnet had

546
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:17,480
refined itself since the beginning, with these little adjustments in

547
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,880
tone and style. Obviously, the big statement about not paying

548
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,359
killers could come off as preaching, and Dragnet had kind

549
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,240
of and that was not the direction the show was going,

550
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,759
particularly in comparison to many other programs on the air

551
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,200
in the same genre. Now, of course, an important announcement

552
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,400
about the launch of the Dragnet TV series. They had

553
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,640
two episodes that were already filmed and ready for air,

554
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:55,119
and Dragnet would end up on in every other week

555
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:01,440
schedule for this first season alternate with the TV version

556
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:06,519
of Gangbusters, while still continuing the radio version. Well, now

557
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:10,119
we turn to listener comments and feedback, and we have

558
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,519
some comments We start on Spotify. Regarding the Big Affair,

559
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,799
Mechanics sixty six rides, I disagree about how to deal

560
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,680
with the police. Politely but firmly state I want to

561
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,559
cooperate with you, officer, but first I will need to

562
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,160
consult with my attorney and also have him or her

563
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:33,440
present at all times. That's certainly a valid approach, probably

564
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,480
the safe approach, and again better than sitting there trying

565
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:46,400
to just snow the police with an obviously false story.

566
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,759
And of course there are episodes of drag now where

567
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,279
with no lawyer present, the guilty person keeps giving contradictory

568
00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:01,160
statements to the police, which is not something that you

569
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would want brought up in court. And then Harrison adds, Wow,

570
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:11,720
partial cast credits is a welcome edition. It's awes when

571
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,240
we get them. And then we have another comment for

572
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,920
Mechanics sixty six. This one is regarding the Big Bungalow.

573
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,759
Friday should have given the informant speech to Romero when

574
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:28,920
he complained about paying for Red's lunch. I can understand

575
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,359
the sentiment, but no explaining it to the listener as

576
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,759
the voice of the police is one thing. As he

577
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,400
is informing us as people who are outside the police

578
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,559
and have been exposed to various media myths and portrayls.

579
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,079
What the situation with informants is with Ben Romero, he

580
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,599
already knows. And imagine if you're a police officer and

581
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,079
you make a complaint to your partner, he says, you

582
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,440
ought not to complain about it. The informants play this

583
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,400
vital role in the police department. We after respect them

584
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
and we should be glad for the services they provide.

585
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,480
That is annoying. That is not Joe Friday in the

586
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,440
nineteen fifties. That's Joe Friday in the nineteen eighty seven movie.

587
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:28,400
Plus cripping about the job is practically Romero's favorite pastime. Plus,

588
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,279
as we'll learn later, Romero was actually the detective who

589
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:38,400
helped bring Friday along on the force and really is

590
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the only partner that had an equal rank with him.

591
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,799
You don't pull that on a mentor unless you want

592
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,640
a very early look. And of course we should mention

593
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,119
that this is Barton Arborough's last episode, that we'll hear

594
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,720
him as Ben Romero, and we'll talk more about that

595
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,720
next week. Regarding the Big Hands, James says, in response

596
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,319
to one of the comments that you read I distinctly

597
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:09,000
remember an episode that took place after Miranda rights became

598
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:12,199
a thing. It made for some interesting dialogue between Joe

599
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,199
Friday and the Chief. Now I thought of the Dragnet

600
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,519
nineteen sixty six TV movie, but I think James was

601
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,880
referencing an episode of the radio program, which wouldn't have

602
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,400
been referencing Miranda versus Arizona since that was decided in

603
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:36,599
nineteen sixty six. There was another California case in regards

604
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,840
to the admissibility of evidence that had a big impact

605
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,519
on Joe Friday, and it was one of the last

606
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:48,480
radio episodes, the Big Ruling and then the Butcher five

607
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,079
O three two ass you travel back in time to

608
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,280
nineteen fifty, you have to produce a detective radio program,

609
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,400
and you have an unlimited budget. Give me five cast members,

610
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,280
the themes, along the showwriter, and it would be factor fiction.

611
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Did I leave anything out? Well, No, It's tough to say,

612
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:11,760
because it's tough to come up with an original Haunts

613
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,159
In terms of nonfiction. I don't know if there's a

614
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,679
particular thing that stands out as a story that must

615
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:22,800
be told. In terms of fiction, I think I would

616
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,639
probably lean on a couple of adaptations. I'm not going

617
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,199
to try to create my own noir detective. I would

618
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,760
honestly want to make a second season of the New

619
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,199
Adventures of Neural Wolf with Sydney green Street, but I

620
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,320
would want them to be closer to the book in

621
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,760
terms of the tone of the story and to actually

622
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,320
adapt stories of Rex Stout, And as I said, i'd

623
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,440
want green Street back in the main role. Honestly, I'd

624
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:03,119
love Bob Bailey as Archie Goodwin. I think he's got

625
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:07,400
a great voice for it. I love Tim Hutton in

626
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,159
a Neural Wolf mystery, but the voice is very, very

627
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:18,480
New York and doesn't match with the profile of Archie

628
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,920
Goodwin as someone who comes from the Midwest. I think

629
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:29,880
baileywood evoke that better. For Inspector Kramer, i'd want Ed Bagley,

630
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:35,239
and for Fritz, I'd go with Hans Conried. And if

631
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,599
you want one that is out of this world, I

632
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:45,559
would produce a Martian Manhunter radio program. Now, if you're

633
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,159
aware of the Martian Man Hunter at all, you're aware

634
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:54,760
of him as a Justice superhero from DC. However, when

635
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,760
he was introduced in comics, he was not only a Martian,

636
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,639
but he was a detective stranded on the planet who

637
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,119
solved mysteries. And I think a weekly series about a

638
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Martian in mid nineteen fifties America solving mysteries that would

639
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,719
be fascinating. And I think i'd have the Martian man

640
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,639
Hunter played by Michael Rennie. Now, in terms of who

641
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:25,239
would write, if you were talking about a neuro Wolf series,

642
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,000
I'd probably pair someone who had a lot of experience

643
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:34,679
with adaptation, like John C. Wilson or Ernest Conoy with

644
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,360
a talented mystery writer, and I'd probably want to compare

645
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,559
samples to get just the right person. And then for

646
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:49,480
Martian Manhunter it would probably be Robert Rith and Ernest

647
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:54,440
Conoy theme song. I would have them write an original

648
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:55,239
theme tune.

649
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: I would not even.

650
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not pick stock music or something already existing.

651
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:09,880
No somewhere I'll find You or anything like that. We

652
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,079
would we would have something original, but I don't know

653
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,960
what it would be since I wouldn't be the one

654
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,239
riding the music. But thanks so much, appreciate the question.

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Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day.

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Thank you so much to Richard, Patreon supporter since October

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659
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much for your support, Richard, and that we'll do it

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be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragonet. But

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join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny doll

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Or where.

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Speaker 15: Two years ago you had Curley sent up to the

667
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,599
pen and that's right for the male department store jobby.

668
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:56,760
Then just a few days ago he swore that he'd

669
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get you for that, that he'd kill you, didn't he?

670
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So what happened when he escaped and came hit a

671
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,159
heart for a few days ago? I know all about

672
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:05,840
that from reading your report. Thanks to some quick thinking

673
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,760
on your part, the police nabbed him instead. Plus the

674
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,960
loot from the department store robbery. You know who deserves

675
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,639
a real credit for that, the girl I had a

676
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,559
date with tonight until you spoil things with your phone.

677
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: Call, Johnny.

678
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 15: As you know, either you or the police wounded Curly Waters,

679
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,559
which is why he was taken to the hospital and

680
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,280
placed under guard instead of being locked up.

681
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,039
Speaker 16: So well, well, I see you managed to locate him.

682
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,320
Here's lieutenant you, Okayed Dollar?

683
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:30,599
Speaker 15: Any reason why I shouldn't be Howie?

684
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 16: Has mister Wells told you what's happened now?

685
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: But I think I can guess.

686
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 15: Curly Waters escaped from the hospital.

687
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 16: Yes, I had three good men there watching over him,

688
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480
but he managed to get by them, how with help one.

689
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Speaker 8: Of his old pronies, Kimpy Taylor.

690
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Speaker 16: Yes, Gimpy created as turbans out in the hall, and

691
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,280
when they went after him, Curly crashed out through the window.

692
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When they went back in after him, Gimpy took it

693
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on the lamb.

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Speaker 3: Three good men, did you say you'll.

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Speaker 1: Be with us then? In the meantime, send your comments

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your host, Adam Graham signing off.