Speaker 1: Here we are, two days to go, and then the
Speaker 1: ball drops. I love that symbolism on a brand new year.
Speaker 1: The last few hours of twenty twenty four, Gary Jeff
Speaker 1: Walker in for Bill Cunningham, and as we begin today,
Speaker 1: of course, as you have no doubt heard in the
Speaker 1: news over the weekend, the passing of Jimmy Carter, a
Speaker 1: president too. I remember very well that presidency. I don't
Speaker 1: remember it that much as a consumer because I was
Speaker 1: in high school getting ready to graduate high school. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carter's lasting legacy for me is he signed into being
Speaker 1: not only the Departments of Energy, but also the Department
Speaker 1: of Education in nineteen seventy nine, the year I graduated
Speaker 1: from high school, and I have watched education in this
Speaker 1: country precipitously drop in efficacy ever since, number one in
Speaker 1: the world before the institution of the DOE, number twenty
Speaker 1: four in twenty twenty four in the world. Thanks Federal government,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Jimmy Carter did other things, and
Speaker 1: he did many many, I believe, good hearted and Jesus
Speaker 1: liked things even after he left the White House. But
Speaker 1: nobody can deny that his only term as president was
Speaker 1: troubled at best. That being said, gonna shift our gears
Speaker 1: now to what's going on as the new year dawns
Speaker 1: in Israel. I believe it's a little bit after seven
Speaker 1: o'clock in the evening there. And from that vantage point
Speaker 1: we have David Rubin, the former mayor of Shilo, Israel
Speaker 1: and also the man behind the Shilo Israel Children's Fund.
Speaker 1: You can find them and fund them at Israel children
Speaker 1: dot org. David Rubin, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: This is Gary jeffn for Willie.
Speaker 2: How are you, hello, Gary Jeff, How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, sir, And how are things How are
Speaker 1: things in the Promised Land today?
Speaker 2: Well, just like any any other day in the past
Speaker 2: year and a half, we we go on with our
Speaker 2: lives and you know, as celebrating Karnaka here, and you know,
Speaker 2: we live our lives even though there's a war going
Speaker 2: on in seven fronts, which is absolutely insane that we're
Speaker 2: a country about the size up New Jersey fighting a
Speaker 2: multiple multi front war on seven fronts, and somehow we
Speaker 2: managed to carry on our lives.
Speaker 1: Happy easily, Yes, not easily, but you do happy. Hanag Guy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that as well, here at the top,
Speaker 1: we're still in the middle of the celebration of light. Now, David,
Speaker 1: with the passing of Jimmy Carter, I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: was it was it a fundamental turn of events in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine or when it happened for Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: to help negotiate the Camp David Accords between Israel and Egypt.
Speaker 1: How did that? How did that change things in the
Speaker 1: Middle East.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's look at it this way. Okay, there
Speaker 2: were two things that come to mind about Jimmy Carter's presidency,
Speaker 2: and you know that's not not even to go into.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm speaking as a foreign observer, even though
Speaker 2: I did grow up in the United States, and even
Speaker 2: though I am an American citizen dual citizen with Israel.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going to get into the
Speaker 2: domestic issues of if you want to call him, domestic
Speaker 2: issues of the gas lines and people were standing online
Speaker 2: for gas, sitting in their cars online for gas for
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half before they could get
Speaker 2: gas as a result of Carter's economic and foreign policy.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to get into all of those issues.
Speaker 2: But if I look if we look at foreign policy.
Speaker 2: And again this is putting aside Carter as a as
Speaker 2: a you know, basically honest person. He wasn't a corrupt individual,
Speaker 2: and certainly he did a lot of humanitarian work after
Speaker 2: he after he of the presidency. But what I remember,
Speaker 2: what stands out to me is the second that President
Speaker 2: Reagan came into office. That's when the American hostages were
Speaker 2: released from Iran, and they were taking during Carter's presidency.
Speaker 2: It was as a result of a very weak presidency.
Speaker 2: And yes, in terms of Israel and the peace agreement
Speaker 2: with Egypt, well it was good that there was a
Speaker 2: piece agreement with Egypt, but overall it started the process
Speaker 2: of Israel giving up parts of its tiny piece of
Speaker 2: land in exchange for a promise of peace. And this
Speaker 2: happened with Egypt. We really always have a peace with
Speaker 2: Egypt is a piece of paper. We don't have much
Speaker 2: in terms of diplomatic relations. It happened with Jordan as well,
Speaker 2: and and they're all still considered potential enemies of Israel.
Speaker 1: Egypt is not Egypt is not attacking Israel right now
Speaker 1: and shows no signs that they're going to.
Speaker 2: Right well, as I just as I just said, they're
Speaker 2: all considered potential enemies of Israel, meaning they they haven't
Speaker 2: forsworn fighting against Israel, and they and they they always
Speaker 2: go against Israel in terms of diplomatic relations. Uh there.
Speaker 2: You know, after October seventh, when one thousand, four hundred
Speaker 2: Israeli civilians were massacred Egypt, you know, it didn't didn't
Speaker 2: come with a statement against it. They decided to mediate
Speaker 2: between Israel and the Commas terrorist organization. There's something that's
Speaker 2: not right there in that piece. It doesn't smell right.
Speaker 2: It hasn't smelled right for about forty years, and most
Speaker 2: Israelis feel the same way. So unfortunately, a land for
Speaker 2: peace process has never worked, It never can work. The
Speaker 2: only kind of peace process that can work is what
Speaker 2: we have with the United Arab Emirates for example, in
Speaker 2: which we have peaceful peace. We signed a peace agreement
Speaker 2: based on peace, based on good relations, and that's the
Speaker 2: only kind of peace agreement that has a chance of working.
Speaker 2: If they're demanding parts of the historic land of Israel,
Speaker 2: it can possibly work.
Speaker 1: But and you know what, and that happened during President
Speaker 1: Trump's first term. Right, part of the Abraham accurts that
Speaker 1: you're referring to with the UA.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's right, And that was the novelty.
Speaker 2: That was the creative approach that had not been done
Speaker 2: up to that point. And now, granted Trump, yes, he
Speaker 2: managed to make those piece agreements, but he still hadn't
Speaker 2: started to understand that that forcing Israel to leave any
Speaker 2: parts of the land of Israel and hand them over
Speaker 2: to Muslim terrorists is not going to burn peace. He
Speaker 2: didn't quite grasp that. But he came a long way
Speaker 2: from Jimmy Carter and Obama and all the others.
Speaker 1: But I think he gets it now. Doesn't he get
Speaker 1: it now?
Speaker 2: Well, based on most of his foreign policy advisors, I
Speaker 2: would say that he gets it. Yeah, he's He's done
Speaker 2: an amazing job of appointing a team around him that
Speaker 2: is going to advise him on foreign policy. God willing,
Speaker 2: they will, they will be approved. And you know, people
Speaker 2: like prospective Secretary waltz and and Mike Huckabee is the
Speaker 2: ambassador to Israel, and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth as well as a Defense secretary. This is
Speaker 2: a remarkable team that that really understands that the Middle
Speaker 2: East is not like Switzerland and Austria, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's not like two nice, friendly neighbors that don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about each other.
Speaker 1: So the Hoosis are still a big challenge for Israel
Speaker 1: in this seven front war that you say you're fighting,
Speaker 1: and we see that you are fighting and defending the
Speaker 1: Promised Land. And the Huthis, of course are nothing but
Speaker 1: an arm of Iran, just like Hamas, just like Hesbulla,
Speaker 1: just like these other groups that we're doing Iran's bidding
Speaker 1: as proxies. And it is the answer to go to
Speaker 1: the source, I mean, and will that be allowed to happen,
Speaker 1: To get at the Ayatolas and the Mullahs in Iran
Speaker 1: and get this finished once in for roll, David Rubin,
Speaker 1: are you optimistic?
Speaker 2: Well, look, yes, I'm optimistic. I'm always optimistic. But if
Speaker 2: you look at the arms of the octopus, you have
Speaker 2: to cut off the arms of the octopus. You have
Speaker 2: to destroy a you have to destroy his below. You
Speaker 2: have to destroy the Jutis and you know the Yemen
Speaker 2: Jutis UH as well, the terrorist organization which you know
Speaker 2: masquerades as the Palestinian authority, and you know it is
Speaker 2: recognized by the UN as an independent country, even though
Speaker 2: there are anything but them. They never have been. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, they they're all terrorists and they and they
Speaker 2: all need to be cut down. But again, those are
Speaker 2: the arms of the octopus. The head of the octopus
Speaker 2: is Iran, and and yes, Israel is going to have
Speaker 2: to confront Iran and confront them militarily. Hopefully it'll happen
Speaker 2: very soon. It seems to me like everything is on
Speaker 2: hold until Trump comes in. It seems to be the
Speaker 2: approach of Israel's Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. I know he's in
Speaker 2: touch with Trump and hopefully there will be good coordination
Speaker 2: and and the head of the octopus will be will
Speaker 2: be chopped off.
Speaker 1: It was interesting to see that Cutter asked Kamas to
Speaker 1: not so politely leave after Trump's win in November. That
Speaker 1: was that was a good sign of things to come,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, look, it was something that had to be done.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They you know, everyone's trying to make a little gesture
Speaker 2: to Trump, and even those who are not friendly to
Speaker 2: the American way and are not friendly to American values,
Speaker 2: like like a country like Katar.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then you know, these are people who identify with with
Speaker 2: Muslim brotherhood, with with all of the radical Muslims of
Speaker 2: the Middle East. So I don't think we can trust them,
Speaker 2: and frankly, I don't think we could even trust the Egyptians.
Speaker 2: I think the bottom line is that Israel can only
Speaker 2: trust God and ourselves. And we're you know, of course,
Speaker 2: with the good alliance with the United States, and I
Speaker 2: as we discussed earlier, I expect the Trump administration to
Speaker 2: be a good friend of Israel.
Speaker 1: I had a caller last Friday, David talking to David
Speaker 1: Rubin from the Shiloh Children's Israel Children's Fund. It's Israel
Speaker 1: Children dot org if you'd like to know more, and
Speaker 1: David had the caller said in the discussion, I don't
Speaker 1: know how we got there. He said, I am. I
Speaker 1: am for the Jewish people, but I'm a guesst Zionist.
Speaker 1: So you know what I did. I looked up Zionism
Speaker 1: and you hear that term thrown all around by these
Speaker 1: pro Hamas protesters, and the Zionists must go and the
Speaker 1: Zionists must die. Zionism is a political and religious movement
Speaker 1: that supports the creation of a Jewish state in Israel
Speaker 1: and the concentration of Jews in the region. Zionists believe
Speaker 1: that all Jews are one nation, that the only solution
Speaker 1: to anti Semitism is to establish a Jewish state in
Speaker 1: what is called Palestine. I see nothing wrong with Zionism
Speaker 1: because I believe that Israel is for Jews. Before it
Speaker 1: was established as the Jewish state after World War Two,
Speaker 1: it was the Holy Land for two thousand years that
Speaker 1: God gave to the Jewish people. What's what's wrong with
Speaker 1: the term Zionism and why is it misused and mischaracterized
Speaker 1: the way it is?
Speaker 2: Well, because those are those are the people, as I.
Speaker 1: Know say, I'm before that, I'm more of the Jewish people,
Speaker 1: but I'm against Zionists, and it's like it is.
Speaker 2: Well, they're also against the They're also against the Bible.
Speaker 2: You know, if you you open up your Bible, it's
Speaker 2: all about God's relationship with the Jewish people, and the
Speaker 2: Jewish people have chosen to be kingdom of priests and
Speaker 2: holy nation that we're supposed to be moral leaders in
Speaker 2: the world. Moral leadership doesn't mean allowing yourself to be destroyed.
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, you have to take all that
Speaker 2: with a slight grain of salt because we're because we're
Speaker 2: talking about haters of Israel. Now. The only thing that
Speaker 2: I would take issue with in that definition of Zionism,
Speaker 2: that's a very ah it's a very secular definition. And
Speaker 2: you know, I define Zionism as and as do a
Speaker 2: majority of Israelis at this point, Zionism is the return
Speaker 2: of It's about the return of the Jewish people to
Speaker 2: the land of Israel, to the land there was promised
Speaker 2: to them by God. And that's Israel. That's Israel, that's Zionism,
Speaker 2: and Zionism is the national the national movement of the
Speaker 2: people of Israel who were exiled from the Land of
Speaker 2: Israel two thousand years ago by the Romans. The Romans
Speaker 2: renamed Israel and Judea, which were the Jewish names. They
Speaker 2: renamed the land Palestina, giving it a Roman derivative of
Speaker 2: the word Philistines. That's what the history, the objective facts
Speaker 2: on the ground are that after being an Israel for
Speaker 2: many hundreds of years as a sovereign nation in the
Speaker 2: time of Samuel the Prophet and King David and King
Speaker 2: Solomon and their kingdoms, that those were Jewish kingdoms, those
Speaker 2: were that was Israel. And yes, we're exiled from the land.
Speaker 2: We scattered around the world for two thousand years. We
Speaker 2: were homeless people, and now now we are back and
Speaker 2: we you know, we've been back for close to one
Speaker 2: hundred years, and we're not planning on leaving anytime soon.
Speaker 2: By the way, and the Arab nations that surround us
Speaker 2: and have seven hundred times a land mass, then Israel,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not too happy about it. So they're
Speaker 2: you know, could they believe that only Muslims should be
Speaker 2: allowed to live in the Middle East, that there should
Speaker 2: be some kind of caliphate like iss wanted.
Speaker 1: Seeing David, that's that's gonna be. That's the dichotomy there is,
Speaker 1: because if you are peaceful and you obey the laws
Speaker 1: of Israel, you can be a Muslim and live in Israel.
Speaker 1: You can be a Christian and live in Israel. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be Jewish to you can be an
Speaker 1: Arab and and live in Israel.
Speaker 2: But if you are only that, you could even be
Speaker 2: in the Israeli parliament.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's that that is Israel. Israel is a free country,
Speaker 2: a democratic country, and we're we're the only one in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. By the way, and and we're you know,
Speaker 2: we're we're here with thriving and thank God, we're going
Speaker 2: to continue to thrive even though we're we have to.
Speaker 2: You know, we have these these wars hoisted upon us
Speaker 2: every couple of years.
Speaker 1: We wish you well, sir. We were running short on time.
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention again the Israel Children's Fund. Uh,
Speaker 1: Israel Children's dot Org is at the exact address. What's
Speaker 1: the exact address.
Speaker 2: Israel, Yes, yes, Israel Children dot Org. All right, just
Speaker 2: those two words, Israel Children dot org and people can
Speaker 2: find out about our programs for the terror victim children
Speaker 2: here in Israel at Israel Children dot Org.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and God bless you.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, thank you, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 1: All right, David Reuben, as we begin this Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show the Monday before the ball drops, Dave Hatter with
Speaker 1: some tech talk coming up next, thought, perhaps we were
Speaker 1: part of the Salt Typhoon telecom hack by the Communist
Speaker 1: Chinese Party. We couldn't reach Dave Hatter for a moment.
Speaker 1: We were calling and his phone wasn't ringing. Don't you
Speaker 1: hate that when that happens? Gary jeff In for Willy
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show on this Monday before the
Speaker 1: year is up. So we decided we'd ask what is
Speaker 1: up with our tech guy, Dave Hatter? And here he is, Hello,
Speaker 1: Matt Hatter, what's going on in Happy new year?
Speaker 4: Thanks Gary Jeff, Happy new to you and all your listeners.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't know if my lead line bunker
Speaker 4: was just on extra high today or if the Salt
Speaker 4: Typhoon guys got me or what. But yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, those things a trifle case, Garry Jeff.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Salt Typhoon, the US has added a ninth
Speaker 1: telecom lump company to the list of targets. First and foremost,
Speaker 1: what is this salt typhoon, Dave? And why should I care?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I hate these names. You know, when you talk to
Speaker 4: cybersecurity people and particularly the government, they've defined a whole
Speaker 4: category of cyber attackers as advanced persistent press. These are
Speaker 4: generally nation state actors that have essentially unlimited money, unlimited expertise,
Speaker 4: unlimited time to hack. Right in the Big four are
Speaker 4: China and Russia around in North Korea. That's not to
Speaker 4: say there aren't others out there. But you know, those
Speaker 4: people see those as the real enemies. And I think
Speaker 4: China is by far the biggest enemy because they have
Speaker 4: the most resources. And you need to look no further
Speaker 4: than the fact that virtually every new military equipment they
Speaker 4: make seems to look exactly like ours. And I don't
Speaker 4: think that's any coincidence. You know, they're hacking American companies
Speaker 4: and they're stealing data. And when people say I have
Speaker 4: nothing to hide, I don't, you know, I'm not worried
Speaker 4: about this. Well, that's part of it, right. They're stealing
Speaker 4: trade secrets, they're stealing military secrets, They're stealing anything and
Speaker 4: everything they can because why would you want to invest
Speaker 4: in a new drug or a new plane or a
Speaker 4: new fill in the blank areas? Yet you can just
Speaker 4: steal the information you need from us. Instead of billions
Speaker 4: of dollars and you know, maybe dozens of years to
Speaker 4: come up with some new things, they just steal it
Speaker 4: from us. So Salt TI Food is one of these
Speaker 4: crazy names they come up with, these off the wall names.
Speaker 4: I don't really know why or how to explain it.
Speaker 4: And it's an advanced persistem threat hacker that has a
Speaker 4: parent infiltrated now at least nine major telecom that works,
Speaker 4: you know, think of people like Verizon, T Mobile, AT
Speaker 4: and T and uh. You know, it's it's really disturbing
Speaker 4: to me as more and more information about this comes out.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a great headline over the past
Speaker 4: couple of days that basically you have the federal government
Speaker 4: basically just trying to point the finger at people on
Speaker 4: this while this continues. They've come out and said, you
Speaker 4: know that you should use encrypted apps. You know, it's
Speaker 4: no longer good enough to just send a text to
Speaker 4: someone unless you have intod encryption. You're using an app
Speaker 4: like Signal because essentially did it as infiltration, they're able
Speaker 4: to suck up everything that's traversing these telecom that works,
Speaker 4: which is basically everything now. So it's a real problem.
Speaker 1: So if I've got my phone and I decided to
Speaker 1: text you, then somebody who has infiltrated my provider can
Speaker 1: get whatever I'm texting you instantly, right, Is that what
Speaker 1: you're telling.
Speaker 4: You into encryption, That's what I'm telling you. I'll send me.
Speaker 4: You're not using encryption. So like if you have an
Speaker 4: Apple phone, then I have an Apple phone. If you
Speaker 4: send me a text using I Message, Apple's native text platform.
Speaker 4: Those messages are encrypted into end, but if you send
Speaker 4: a message to some say an Android user, it may
Speaker 4: or may not be encrypted. Most likely won't be, especially
Speaker 4: if they're on an older phone. And that's where they've
Speaker 4: recommended that people switch to apps like Signal, which I
Speaker 4: think also is quite interesting and ironic ary Jeff, because
Speaker 4: you may recall, I know you and I've talked about
Speaker 4: it before, how our government is constantly saying, oh, encryption
Speaker 4: is bad. We like backdoors, you know, we want to
Speaker 4: be able to suck up all your communications. And now
Speaker 4: they've suddenly realized, wait a minute, they haven't have said this.
Speaker 4: This is me paraphrasing, but maybe backdoors are bad. That
Speaker 4: seems to be how they got into this telecom network,
Speaker 4: and that indo end encryption is good because of course
Speaker 4: now their stuff is being sucked up as well. So yeah,
Speaker 4: Signal is a good choice. It's an end to end
Speaker 4: encrypted app. But the problem is then you've got to
Speaker 4: add me to Signal. It creates friction, it's kind of
Speaker 4: a pain. But until we get a better handle on
Speaker 4: this and understand what's really happening, this is a serious
Speaker 4: problem in theory, any kind of communication that was not
Speaker 4: into encrypted, any your bank information, any anything you've done
Speaker 4: that's reversed this one of these networks theoretically has been
Speaker 4: captured by our adversary.
Speaker 1: So basically, you either need to go back to my
Speaker 1: flip phone or when I meet someone and get a
Speaker 1: new number, make sure if they've got an Android, I
Speaker 1: never call them. Only if you've got an iPhone, you're
Speaker 1: you're on the good list. You got an iPhone, you're
Speaker 1: on the good You got a flip phone, it's fine,
Speaker 1: if you got to go, If you got an Android,
Speaker 1: you got a Google phone, I'm not even gonna talk
Speaker 1: to you again, and and I will just dismiss your
Speaker 1: text as junk and block you forever. Is that a
Speaker 1: little bit too drastic.
Speaker 4: It might be a little too drastic. And the voice
Speaker 4: is kind of in a separate realm, you know, because
Speaker 4: typically that wouldn't be into end encrypted adviceory using one
Speaker 4: of these end to end encrypted apps. So this this
Speaker 4: bear's watching you know. Now we've got a ninth company
Speaker 4: that's been added, but only after they put out guidelines
Speaker 4: to help these companies determine, you know, these are the
Speaker 4: these are the indicators of compromise to look for to
Speaker 4: determine that you have been infiltrated. And you know this
Speaker 4: has now been weeks, if not months. It's uh, it's
Speaker 4: really pretty scary considering that everything is digital now. I mean,
Speaker 4: think about it, Cary, Jeff, what do you not do
Speaker 4: in some sort of digital way, whether it's a phone,
Speaker 4: it's with a computer. Forget the particular mechanism, but you
Speaker 4: know your bankings online, your shopping Zoneline, your entertainment zoneline,
Speaker 4: and they are theoretically sucking all of that up.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, Dave Patter that you have had some issues,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of issues with any Chinese held company,
Speaker 1: including TikTok, which is I guess owned by Byte Dance.
Speaker 1: But uh, Donald Trump has just in the last week
Speaker 1: and has asked the Supreme Court to rule on this
Speaker 1: TikTok band that's supposed to take an effect at the
Speaker 1: first of this coming year, and he has asked them
Speaker 1: to reconsider that legislation that was signed under Joe Biden
Speaker 1: and the Congress that is leaving. And I just want
Speaker 1: to know where you come down on that, because I
Speaker 1: know you're not a fan of government regulation or the
Speaker 1: you know, the appearance of regulating free speech and free
Speaker 1: enterprise and the like. But at the same time you
Speaker 1: were very distrustful, as anyone should be, of the communist
Speaker 1: Chinese and anything they've got their fingers in.
Speaker 4: Well, you asked an interesting question. Yes, I have been
Speaker 4: warning people about TikTok and any sort of Chinese controlled
Speaker 4: application as a reminder, and I've got all this linked
Speaker 4: if you just looked me up on LinkedIn. I just
Speaker 4: recently wrote a blog posted by why folks should stop
Speaker 4: using Kamu and other Chinese controlled apps for shopping, And
Speaker 4: I mean it's all the same thing, right. They actually
Speaker 4: have a law. The Hill did a nice piece on it.
Speaker 4: I have a linked in there about how in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one they passed the law in China and it
Speaker 4: basically mandates that any company that is a Chinese company
Speaker 4: must turn over any data the Chinese Communist Party wants
Speaker 4: any time they want it. So this this again, this
Speaker 4: is all well documented, right, So, whether it's TikTok or
Speaker 4: Tamu or fill in the blank, they have to turn
Speaker 4: over any information that is requested of them. These apps
Speaker 4: are all incredibly aggressive in the data they want to
Speaker 4: collect from their machine or your device. Would's say, you know,
Speaker 4: I encourage people go to the Apple app store and
Speaker 4: look at the privacy label for TikTok. It is trying
Speaker 4: to collect anything and everything that it can from their phone,
Speaker 4: stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with you watching
Speaker 4: some stupid video online. Same thing with shopping on Tamu.
Speaker 4: It's collecting all kinds of information that really has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with the shopping experience, because that data is
Speaker 4: valuable in and of itself, both for monetization purposes, but
Speaker 4: it's also useful for you know, mind control, propaganda persuasion purposes,
Speaker 4: which is the real knock on TikTok in my point.
Speaker 4: So let me just give you a couple of headlines
Speaker 4: in the last few days. It's a great segue off
Speaker 4: the fact that, you know, our own government says that
Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist Party has hacked our teletoon networks. So
Speaker 4: here's a headline from Recorded Future breaking the cycle Chinese
Speaker 4: Communist Party propaganda infrastructure rapidly expands, so there's one for you.
Speaker 4: And then from Washington Times, Chinese communists military writings revealed
Speaker 4: plans for strategic influence operations throughout or through TikTok, So
Speaker 4: this isn't me just making this stuff up, Gary Jeff.
Speaker 4: Despite the fact that I have been warning about it
Speaker 4: for a long time, more and more people are getting
Speaker 4: wise to this. So I'm obviously really disappointed of the
Speaker 4: position that President Trump has taken on this. I think
Speaker 4: it's wrong. The data collection is bad, it's a problem.
Speaker 4: I'm concerned about that. But I'm much more concerned about
Speaker 4: the fact that as they build in more granular and
Speaker 4: detailed profile about you, and they can use their heating
Speaker 4: feature well documented by Forbes, where they use TikTok to
Speaker 4: promote pro Chinese narratives and anti you know, and repress
Speaker 4: anything that might be anti CCT. You know. Here again
Speaker 4: Washington Times, this story is this. In the past few days,
Speaker 4: Chinese communists military writing revealed plans for strategic influence operations
Speaker 4: through TikTok. You know, they're using it as it Imagine,
Speaker 4: Gary Jeff, imagine if you could step back until let's
Speaker 4: say nineteen sixty two, You're in the height of the
Speaker 4: Cold War. Do you think the United States would allow
Speaker 4: Russians to put a device into your house that could
Speaker 4: listen to you and could send you Soviet propaganda and
Speaker 4: capture all of your most intimate details and everywhere you
Speaker 4: go and everything else.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing probably not, Dave, you'd hope not.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you hope not right, And you know this, this
Speaker 4: is capturing more Again, don't take my word for it.
Speaker 4: Don't look at the Apple privacy label for TikTok go
Speaker 4: see what people who are in the know are warning
Speaker 4: about this. So, yeah, it's very disappointing to me. I
Speaker 4: have been for banning TikTok for a long time, not
Speaker 4: so much because of the data collection. Again, it's a problem.
Speaker 4: And then I'll also get Gary Jeff Well, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: Facebook's doing the same thing. Well, but they're not a
Speaker 4: Chinese company controlled by our adversary who is hacking our
Speaker 4: networks and stealing our most sensitive information. And we're going
Speaker 4: to let them put a tool in your pocket to
Speaker 4: persuade you and propagandize you. It's it's not So I'm
Speaker 4: one hundred percent for banning TikTok okay, and I'm hoping
Speaker 4: President company the light for this.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so I got the answer finally that
Speaker 1: I was looking for. Now we've talked about the communist
Speaker 1: Chinese who's worse, the communist Chinese Party and what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do to infiltrate every every asset of Facet
Speaker 1: of Our Lives or Chrome Google Chrome, Google will start
Speaker 1: tracking all of your devices in about two months, in
Speaker 1: about eight weeks, all every device. How do they do that?
Speaker 1: And what what should you do to keep them from
Speaker 1: tracking your devices?
Speaker 4: Well? Where'd you brought this?
Speaker 1: Call Hillary Clinton? Maybe she can smash it with some
Speaker 1: hammers and stuff. Anyway, God, you know.
Speaker 4: You know I have my issues with Google as well,
Speaker 4: primarily because you are not their customer, you are their product.
Speaker 4: And despite them, you know, constantly painting this picture of
Speaker 4: their being privacy friendly, then you see this sort of thing,
Speaker 4: so you know there's been some noise and some possible
Speaker 4: action that Chrome, so Chrome is Google's web browser, would
Speaker 4: be a forced divestiture and they would have to spin
Speaker 4: it off. So when you use the Google search engine,
Speaker 4: Google dot com and you want to search for something,
Speaker 4: you might be using the Safari browser on your iOS phone.
Speaker 4: You might be using the A browser on or you know,
Speaker 4: the Edge browser for Microsoft on a Windows PC. But
Speaker 4: most people use Chrome, right, which is a web browser.
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to make this distinction because a
Speaker 4: lot of people seemed confused by the idea of a
Speaker 4: web browser versus a website. So Google dot com the
Speaker 4: search engine is a website. Any browser can can can
Speaker 4: be used to access it's Chrome is Google's browser, right,
Speaker 4: It's by far the most popular browser, That's what most
Speaker 4: people use. There's this possibility that Google will be forced
Speaker 4: to spin it off. We'll see where that goes. But
Speaker 4: if they did, then they would potentially lose a lot
Speaker 4: of information that they used to track you across the Internet.
Speaker 4: Plus they if you read through that article in Forbes
Speaker 4: about this, they point out that, you know, people's habits
Speaker 4: for using the Internet have changed. Not everyone is on
Speaker 4: a full blown computer anymore. Many people are on a phone,
Speaker 4: people are on TVs.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Everything is connected now, for better or worse, mostly worse
Speaker 4: in my opinion. But they want all that data rights.
Speaker 4: It's one thing to know what you did from your
Speaker 4: phone and where you went with your phone. It's another
Speaker 4: thing to know what you're watching on TV or where
Speaker 4: you went with your car and what you did in
Speaker 4: your car. And Chrome can only give them the tracking through.
Speaker 4: Chrome can only capture so much of that, and so
Speaker 4: they're talking about things like browser fingerprinting or just this
Speaker 4: fingerprinting is the idea that rather than use a bunch
Speaker 4: of cookies and to track you, each device essentially has
Speaker 4: its own unique signal, and if they can capture that
Speaker 4: fingerprint right, then they can track you potentially across multiple devices.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter whether they end Chrome anymore. It doesn't
Speaker 4: matter whether you have cookies or not. It's a unique
Speaker 4: way to track you. It's more difficult to disable, it's
Speaker 4: more difficult to even know that it's being used, and
Speaker 4: that's where they're trying to go. So yeah, as a
Speaker 4: general rule of thumb, my advice to people is find
Speaker 4: privacy and security friendly products and avoid anything from Google
Speaker 4: very well.
Speaker 1: Phishing attacks doubled this year of twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: I don't see it getting any better next year, do you.
Speaker 4: No, Gary, Jeff? I think for all the reasons we
Speaker 4: just discussed, right, more people are online, more people are
Speaker 4: you know, sending texts, sending emails, social media, you name it.
Speaker 4: Everything is digital now. And you know, any report you
Speaker 4: look at from any source will generally tell you fiber
Speaker 4: attacks are on the rise. Phishing is a big part
Speaker 4: of it because it's attacking someone's device, trying to find
Speaker 4: a vulnerable piece of software or something and exploit that
Speaker 4: takes a much higher level of skill than it does
Speaker 4: to send some sort of phishing email or text that
Speaker 4: looks realistic to the naked eye and then tells you
Speaker 4: there's some sort of crisis and you have to click
Speaker 4: on this thing to solve it. Right, So it's easy
Speaker 4: and cheap to send phishing attacks out at scale. The
Speaker 4: bad guys keep getting better and better at leveraging tools
Speaker 4: like catchypt to improve the quality of those emails and
Speaker 4: texts so they look more realistic. Use all this leaked
Speaker 4: and skull and data about you to send information in
Speaker 4: there that makes you think it's legit. So no, I
Speaker 4: think you're absolutely right. Sadly, I don't think you're going
Speaker 4: to see any decline in this anytime in the near
Speaker 4: future because it's it's cheap and it's effective. Right, They're
Speaker 4: making enormous amounts of money off this stuff.
Speaker 1: Sadly, well, is it something that we just have to
Speaker 1: be vigilant about as consumers, as the average person, because
Speaker 1: there's only so much government can do. There's only so
Speaker 1: much I want the government to do. So you really,
Speaker 1: you really have to defend yourself and your own devices
Speaker 1: and your family's devices, and education is the number one
Speaker 1: tool you can use to do that, I believe, And
Speaker 1: that's why it's good to have people like you on
Speaker 1: the air getting the word out saying, you know, don't
Speaker 1: don't click on that, don't don't you go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, You're You're absolutely right here, Jeff. Education and awareness,
Speaker 4: if not the single most important thing, are certainly tied
Speaker 4: because you can do all kinds of technology at this
Speaker 4: but they continuously evolve their tactics, right, So, I mean,
Speaker 4: you can spend money on antivirus and all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 4: and you know, businesses depth that we do that. Don't
Speaker 4: misunderstand what I'm saying here, but a big part of it,
Speaker 4: whether you're an employee in a business or you're just
Speaker 4: an individual out there that wants to protect your assets, yes,
Speaker 4: understanding the kinds of a tax. You know, QR codes
Speaker 4: Scanning random QR codes can lead to disaster because you
Speaker 4: can't look at one and know whether it's legit or not.
Speaker 4: And that's an example of how they constantly change their tactics.
Speaker 4: They go where people are. They use social engineering to
Speaker 4: catch you up guards. So being aware of that and
Speaker 4: being skeptical, stopping taking a breath, go out of band
Speaker 4: to verify things will go a long long way towards
Speaker 4: you not eventually getting scammed by one of these things.
Speaker 4: So yeah, education aware is absolutely critical.
Speaker 1: I know sometimes you join the folks at Local twelve.
Speaker 1: We've seen you on here. We watch that in the
Speaker 1: morning because there's nothing else on, and we watch that
Speaker 1: and they often have QR codes. I won't even scan
Speaker 1: the QR codes on my TV screen. I just I'm
Speaker 1: just very very skeptical. And you figure it's the friendly
Speaker 1: folks from Local twelve. It's Bob and Shelan and all
Speaker 1: of them. But now I'm not even scanning their QR codes.
Speaker 1: You've convinced me, Dave, it's.
Speaker 4: A bad habit to get into scan you know, it
Speaker 4: could to the local news station get hacked and somehow
Speaker 4: of course QR code. Sure, they're certainly not going to
Speaker 4: put malicious stuff out on their own. But like if
Speaker 4: you're walking down the street and you see a QR
Speaker 4: code on the bus stop no or a parking meter.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's well known scams across the country where
Speaker 4: bad guys printed their own QR codes. Put them over
Speaker 4: the legitimate QR code on a parking meter where you say,
Speaker 4: and then you scan it and you go down the
Speaker 4: rabbit hole, you know, your money, to steal your id.
Speaker 4: All the above. So again, this isn't some stuff I'm
Speaker 4: making up. It's all easily, you know, easily you could
Speaker 4: go find it. It's documented.
Speaker 1: So yeah, awaren be careful, be careful tomorrow night. Lots
Speaker 1: of dropping balls. I'm sure your aluminum foil hat will
Speaker 1: protect you. Dave Hatter down in the bunker to celebrate
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Thank you, sir, appreciate your time as
Speaker 1: always a break and then Leishai Lemish from shen Yun
Speaker 1: afternows into another hour of This Bill Cunningham Show for
Speaker 1: December thirtieth, twenty twenty four. Only precious hours left until
Speaker 1: we celebrate a new year. Gary, Jeff Walker and for
Speaker 1: Willie and in this half hour the guy I've never
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to interview, but I get the chance today,
Speaker 1: so I'm pumped about that. And something that's kind of
Speaker 1: below the radar, I think on a lot of people's
Speaker 1: you know, fields of interest, and maybe it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: and it kind of ties into some of the things
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter was saying in the last half hour about
Speaker 1: the influence of the Communist Chinese Party in America. Shen
Speaker 1: Yun is a cultural dance sensation that sweeps this nation
Speaker 1: with performances every year, and they're currently on tour here
Speaker 1: in the States, and we have with this someone who's
Speaker 1: mceed does somewhat over fifteen hundred of the Shenyun performances.
Speaker 1: He joined the company in two thousand and six. He's
Speaker 1: a man born in the United States, earned a bachelor's
Speaker 1: degree in Chinese history from Pomona College as a master's
Speaker 1: in international relations, and it's spent lots of time studying, working,
Speaker 1: conducting research throughout East Asia, authored articles on Chinese current
Speaker 1: affairs published in both English and Chinese. And he's our
Speaker 1: guest now, Leshai Lemish, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. How are you today, sir, I'm great.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, thanks for being on. Like I said, you
Speaker 1: may see people may see the posters when Shan Yun
Speaker 1: is coming to a city or community near them. And
Speaker 1: I have to work also at a bar and every
Speaker 1: year some cute little Chinese woman will come in and
Speaker 1: ask if they can put up the shen Yun poster
Speaker 1: for their performance here. I always say sure, put it
Speaker 1: right there in the window. And I have never been
Speaker 1: So tell me number one, Leshai, Tell me what I'm
Speaker 1: missing never having been to a shan Yun performance.
Speaker 4: Well, first, you can see us in Cincinnati February sixteen.
Speaker 4: That would be the easiest THI.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so I don't have to wait that long.
Speaker 4: No, no, just around the corner of Valentine's Day right
Speaker 4: after that. What you're missing? What you've been missing? First
Speaker 4: of all, we have a new show every year, so
Speaker 4: all the shows that we've had before are gone. It's
Speaker 4: a new show this year. I'll be a new show
Speaker 4: next year. So you missed all those but every year
Speaker 4: we have a new production. It's really a celebration of
Speaker 4: five thousand years of Chinese culture. So it's ancient ancient legends, stories,
Speaker 4: folk tales, ethnic dances, and the mainten art form that
Speaker 4: we perform is classical Chinese dance, which is very very
Speaker 4: different from ballet. It's very very athletic in a different way,
Speaker 4: very expressive, and has five thousand years of history. It
Speaker 4: kind of grew in tandem with Chinese martial arts, and
Speaker 4: so the same move that you could see martial arts
Speaker 4: could be used to avoid a spear, let's say, in battle,
Speaker 4: can be used on stage for dance. And it's all
Speaker 4: the flipping and tumbling that we have. A lot of
Speaker 4: people think it comes from gymnastics, but actually it's the opposite.
Speaker 4: Gymnastics and acrobatics borrowed it from classical Chinese dance with
Speaker 4: Chinese gymnasts about fifty years ago. And there's music, there's
Speaker 4: a live orchestra, there's animated backdrops, there are solo performers
Speaker 4: with the rhu and singers, and then there's the embcs
Speaker 4: like myself. Just go on stage, introduce each piece, give
Speaker 4: a little bit of cultural background, then let the real
Speaker 4: artists do to work.
Speaker 1: Is anybody dodging spears on stage?
Speaker 4: Sometimes, but that's usually planned.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I understand. It's not an actual battle
Speaker 1: that you're waging, although.
Speaker 4: We are weaving a battle off stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm getting to that. What is so
Speaker 1: threatening to the Communist Chinese Party About five thousand years
Speaker 1: of tradition and culture being exhibited as Chinese around the world,
Speaker 1: and especially in the United States. What what's the CCP
Speaker 1: have against this?
Speaker 4: So the few things going on with that. So the
Speaker 4: first thing is the Chinese Communist Party has a history
Speaker 4: about seventy five years in power in China, right, and
Speaker 4: China has five thousand years of history. And when the
Speaker 4: Communist Party came to power, they realized that they were
Speaker 4: a Soviet import. This was not something native to Chinese culture.
Speaker 4: In fact, it was antithetical to many things about Chinese culture.
Speaker 4: Chance culture is very spiritual. It believes in repercussions to
Speaker 4: what you do in this lifetime, be it reincarnation or
Speaker 4: seeing your ancestors, or heaven and hell, whatever it is.
Speaker 4: They have that strong belief that goes around comes around,
Speaker 4: and Communism comes in and says, nope, this is all
Speaker 4: it is. It's just materialism, atheism, utilitarianism, this is it.
Speaker 4: And so to be able to do what they needed
Speaker 4: to do, they had to wipe out the traditional culture.
Speaker 4: And that's how you have Mao's campaigns like the Culture Revolution,
Speaker 4: where you're taking monks and nuns and making them marry,
Speaker 4: and you're raising temples to the ground, you're burning artwork,
Speaker 4: and you're making students beat up their teachers and beat
Speaker 4: up their parents. And you couldn't do that if people
Speaker 4: believe there were consequences to what they did, so they
Speaker 4: really have to replace it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing that we have seen in
Speaker 1: our country, Lee Shai, with the protests against Civil War
Speaker 1: statues or the Founders of America and the statues being
Speaker 1: attacked and vandalized and torn down. It's all Marxist and
Speaker 1: Communists in its intent and in its in its origins.
Speaker 1: It's the same kind of thing. You've got to erase
Speaker 1: real history and tradition so you can replace it with
Speaker 1: something else. Isn't that the same same kind of Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't know, Uh yeah, I mean, you know principle,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what my Chinese friends are saying, people who
Speaker 4: live through the culture revolution in China, which wasn't that
Speaker 4: long ago in the sixties and seventies, and they say,
Speaker 4: this is exactly the same thing. It's this militant, one
Speaker 4: sided you're either with us or against us. If you
Speaker 4: dare to speak up, we're going to cancel you. That's
Speaker 4: exactly what they went through in a culture revolution. Is thing.
Speaker 4: It's scary because it's happening here now and then they
Speaker 4: see how the Chinese Communist Party is kind of supporting
Speaker 4: it behind the scenes, propaganda wise, sometimes financially spies. We're
Speaker 4: seeing all these different things that they're doing. And going
Speaker 4: back to your first question, our performance is about reviving
Speaker 4: traditional Chinese culture. If you see our billboards, it says
Speaker 4: China before Communists. That's what we're performing on stage. And
Speaker 4: so it's these ancient legends and stories, but more importantly
Speaker 4: what's behind them, right, the virtues and the ideals loyalty, courage, integrity, face, compassion,
Speaker 4: these kinds of things. And then the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 4: is terrified of that because Chinese people even see the
Speaker 4: show and say, oh yeah, I remember my grandmother used
Speaker 4: to tell me about this stuff. This is these are
Speaker 4: our real roots, and we found it not in China,
Speaker 4: but you know, in Ohio or in New York, or
Speaker 4: in Tokyo or London wherever we're performing. And that's because
Speaker 4: you really couldn't do this in China. And so Sanin
Speaker 4: was created in New York by elite artists from China
Speaker 4: who many of them escaped persecution in China and they said, okay,
Speaker 4: we're going to use production. It's going to be reviving
Speaker 4: traditional Chinese culture. We're also going to show what's happening
Speaker 4: in China today. So of the twenty pieces or so,
Speaker 4: the show is about twenty different stories, each about four
Speaker 4: or five minutes long, couple pieces showing what's happening in
Speaker 4: terms of the tyranny and persecution and encourage and resistance
Speaker 4: to it in China. And the CCP certainly does not
Speaker 4: like that. And then we actually had people from China
Speaker 4: elite artists come out and say this is what we
Speaker 4: want to do, and they left everything behind and risked
Speaker 4: everything to come out and join us. Some of them
Speaker 4: didn't make it. Some of our arrests are just trying
Speaker 4: to join us. And so that's the one place we
Speaker 4: can't perform right now is China. So they're very afraid
Speaker 4: of what we're doing.
Speaker 1: How ironic, the one place you can't perform is is
Speaker 1: you're actually a celebration of what that country's really all
Speaker 1: about without the commies. It's amazing and that's right.
Speaker 4: And not only that, so the Chinese embassies and consulates
Speaker 4: around the world are doing everything they can't to stop
Speaker 4: us from performing. So in the very beginning when we started,
Speaker 4: this is two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 4: they would write letters to the theaters and say, this is
Speaker 4: an anti China performance, right, the celebration of Chinese culture
Speaker 4: is anti China. And if you don't cancel it, you
Speaker 4: will never have a Chinese production performing your theater again,
Speaker 4: and it will be bad for your city's sister city
Speaker 4: relationship with whatever city in China, and US chinnel relations
Speaker 4: will be affected. All these things. And then in the
Speaker 4: United States has had no traction. It actually kind of
Speaker 4: worked for them a little bit in some you know,
Speaker 4: former Soviet Bloc countries and other countries like South Korea,
Speaker 4: but are really really afraid of the CCP. But in
Speaker 4: the US, people are like, what is this, No, you're
Speaker 4: not going to tell us what we can and cannot
Speaker 4: see in America, and in fact that that actually it's
Speaker 4: somewhat like promoting our show. People are like, oh, let's
Speaker 4: go check it out. We don't know what this is.
Speaker 4: And you know, we had mayors and people like that
Speaker 4: that were getting letters things, do not see the show
Speaker 4: if they okay, let's go check it out. And so
Speaker 4: they changed tactics after that, and then what we started
Speaker 4: seeing is they would slash our tires on our buses,
Speaker 4: and it would do it in such a way that
Speaker 4: the tire would not the slate right away, but would
Speaker 4: explode at high speeds. Unfortunately, we have security. We found
Speaker 4: these things, but this happened multiple times, often within a
Speaker 4: few days.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you know it's the Communist
Speaker 1: Chinese Party doing that?
Speaker 4: Lisha, Well, it's not the ambassador himself out there, that's
Speaker 4: for sure, and they usually hire people like you know,
Speaker 4: two or three steps down. But there's been a re
Speaker 4: wave of arrest of Chinese spies. So all along we've
Speaker 4: been saying, listen, there are people spying on us. We're
Speaker 4: getting death threats, we're getting our email hats, we're getting
Speaker 4: people trying to follow us wherever we're going. And we
Speaker 4: had little kind of anecdotal evidence of that here and there.
Speaker 4: But then the last few years, our federal agents and
Speaker 4: you know, various forms of our security systems have found
Speaker 4: these people. And so, for example, there were these two
Speaker 4: guys who were arrested Chinese nationals living in the United
Speaker 4: States who arrested for this scheme where they were trying
Speaker 4: to bribe an IRS agent who was actually an undercover
Speaker 4: FBI agent in order to revoke Chinyan Performing Arts as
Speaker 4: nonprofit status and finally was arrested for that because they
Speaker 4: had been tracking him for a while and it eventually
Speaker 4: had this undercover agent posed an IRS agent and they
Speaker 4: got them. And then now there's other people that were
Speaker 4: connected to him or being arrested too. This is a
Speaker 4: huge network. And of course it's not just Shenyun, you know,
Speaker 4: it's military secrets, technological secrets, all this stuff. And I
Speaker 4: think one of the main messages that Shinyn is trying
Speaker 4: to get across is that listen, China is not the CCP,
Speaker 4: and there in fact people in China who are on
Speaker 4: our side. Sometimes they would send people to spy on us.
Speaker 4: This happened I remember in Vancouver and this person came over.
Speaker 4: It was from the Public Security Bureau in China, sent
Speaker 4: a spy on us. And after the show he came
Speaker 4: to one of our security people and said, listen, I
Speaker 4: came here to spy on you, but rash on your side.
Speaker 4: Good job, keep up the good work. When we get
Speaker 4: emails from China all the time saying come perform in China,
Speaker 4: I can't wait for you to come over here, and then,
Speaker 4: but now they're doing this new tactic, which is trying
Speaker 4: to smear us on social media, trying to get their
Speaker 4: propaganda narratives into mainstream media.
Speaker 1: Well, I see that the New York Times is playing
Speaker 1: along apparently with but the New York Times along For
Speaker 1: anybody who hasn't been paying attention to the Old Gray
Speaker 1: Lady or whatever all the news that's fit to print,
Speaker 1: anybody knows that the New York Times is an anti
Speaker 1: American publication by their editorials and what they put out.
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by this. What was the New
Speaker 1: York Times been doing to nyun Lisha.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean they're coming out with article after articles,
Speaker 4: sometimes several articles in one week, just trying to attack
Speaker 4: Chanan from every angle they can think of. And even
Speaker 4: they they they even like the latest one is like, oh,
Speaker 4: Shanud has made a lot of money. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: very successful performing arts company. We go, we perform in
Speaker 4: front of a million plus people every year, two hundred cities.
Speaker 4: We got one hundred ninety four cities this year, you know,
Speaker 4: five continents. It's a huge success. You know, theaters are
Speaker 4: sold out. I'm sorry, is that is that wrong? In America,
Speaker 4: you know. So they're trying all these different things. But
Speaker 4: the overall narrative of the New York Times is eerily
Speaker 4: similar to the stuff that the CCP has been using
Speaker 4: for propaganda against Chenyun and against the founders of shiny
Speaker 4: In the following Bunge practitioners Fellow Bone community for twenty
Speaker 4: five years, saying they're anti China, saying that they're weird,
Speaker 4: all these different things, you know, and that's it's very troubling,
Speaker 4: especially for people. I'm not ethnic Chinese, but the majority
Speaker 4: of the performers in the company are who've been in
Speaker 4: the company for so long and people who left China,
Speaker 4: and they remember what it was like in the nineteen
Speaker 4: nineties when they were practicing. Following going one day, they're
Speaker 4: just meditating in the park, just happily doing a spiritual practice,
Speaker 4: and the next day the CCP says, no, your enemies
Speaker 4: of the state, you cannot practice this. If you do,
Speaker 4: you're going to go to jail. And then they thought
Speaker 4: this is just a big misunderstanding. They would go to
Speaker 4: the petition's office and go to the government say you
Speaker 4: got it all wrong, very innocently right, because nobody knew
Speaker 4: anything about politics back then, and then they would be arrested,
Speaker 4: and then their family members would go they'd arrested too,
Speaker 4: and before you know, they're own labor camps. And that
Speaker 4: was what they faced, a whole machinery of the biggestaship
Speaker 4: in history coming after them. And then they fled to
Speaker 4: the United States, often with scars, sometimes with family members
Speaker 4: who were killed from torture. And then they come here
Speaker 4: and they have freedom in America and they create this
Speaker 4: amazing performing arts company. It's a huge success from nothing.
Speaker 4: It started from absolutely nothing, no government support, no corporate support,
Speaker 4: just you know, hard work and talent they built that.
Speaker 4: We had one company and now we have touring around
Speaker 4: the world simultaneously and now to see, you know, the
Speaker 4: New York Times come after us, like what is this China?
Speaker 1: Well, should kind of an off track part of the discussion,
Speaker 1: But you've done so much study about China and Chinese
Speaker 1: culture and been around the world. Should Americans be concerned
Speaker 1: about the tens of thousands military age Chinese men that
Speaker 1: came across our open border during the Biden administration? Is
Speaker 1: that is that a call for concern when it comes
Speaker 1: to Chinese spies and the other things you mentioned that
Speaker 1: are going on now as you go around the country
Speaker 1: with Shan Yun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what was that number? I saw the
Speaker 4: other one hundred and seventy six thousand or something like
Speaker 4: that came in. Yeah, and well, they're definitely finding a
Speaker 4: lot of spies. And listen, you know, as a performance
Speaker 4: of Chinese culture with Chinese people and Chinese supports and volunteers,
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of wonderful people. But that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that we don't have people here with my intent
Speaker 4: in the country trying to do different things. You know
Speaker 4: that they're spies across all the different industries and they're
Speaker 4: catching who knows a tiny fraction of them. Some of
Speaker 4: them are working in you know, governor's offices, in mayor's office.
Speaker 4: They're catching these kinds of people too. Some are in
Speaker 4: the media. They're they're catching all these different people. And
Speaker 4: it's clear that the CCP, and it's very publicly, has
Speaker 4: stated what their biggest enemy is, and it's the United
Speaker 4: States that they want to overtake, and they fear following
Speaker 4: going and they fear Shinyan and they've made this one
Speaker 4: of their biggest enemies. That we have internal documents that
Speaker 4: they leaked out. It got leaked out from some of
Speaker 4: our supporters, like I mentioned over the summer, laying out
Speaker 4: their entire strategy, trying to weaponize social media, trying to
Speaker 4: use mainstream American media to turn Shinyan, and following going
Speaker 4: community against the United States to have like a conflict
Speaker 4: creative year, you know, divide and conquer and this. And
Speaker 4: then a big reason for that, of course, is they're
Speaker 4: geopolitics and what they want to do with Taiwan and
Speaker 4: all this other stuff. But there's there's definitely they're definitely
Speaker 4: people in our midst that are trying to start up trouble.
Speaker 1: Wow. I just I'm looking forward and maybe I'll talk
Speaker 1: my wife into coming to see Shan Yun when they
Speaker 1: were in Cincinnati February fifteenth. I look forward to meeting
Speaker 1: you too. It's nice to talk to you. Leshai Lemish,
Speaker 1: the MC for Shan Yun. How would you in one sentence,
Speaker 1: how would you sum up Shan Yun in the performance
Speaker 1: we're about to see here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's an amazing celebration of five thousand years of
Speaker 4: Chinese culture. A whole other world you're gonna be transported
Speaker 4: to through dance. And music and costumes in animated backdrops,
Speaker 4: and a few surprises.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, Thanks Leshai. We'll continue to report on
Speaker 1: the way on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 5: To be true to ourselves, we must be true to others.
Speaker 5: We will not behave in foreign places so as to
Speaker 5: valet our rules. And and here at home, well, we
Speaker 5: know that the trust which our nation earns is essential
Speaker 5: to our strength.
Speaker 6: We've learned from personal experience at poor people the first
Speaker 6: of all, people who are often scorned or derogated. Adjust
Speaker 6: as intelligent as we are. They're just as ambitious as we.
Speaker 6: They are just as hard working as we. They have
Speaker 6: family values are just as good as ours. They just
Speaker 6: need some help.
Speaker 7: Oh hello, quiet.
Speaker 1: And I'm broadcasting right, God, no segment. I think that
Speaker 1: you are just as good, just as intelligent, just as beautiful,
Speaker 1: just as ambitious, and just as capable as I am.
Speaker 1: But you just need some help. As President Carter said
Speaker 1: in Always There, Always, that was Christmas Man, everything was
Speaker 1: good you it was fine. I was here and I
Speaker 1: was hoping for a Christmas stooge report. But you were
Speaker 1: you were, You were gone, baby gone, now baby, now
Speaker 1: you had that clause duty. Well, Santa Calt. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, what are you going to do? Exactly what
Speaker 1: I did? I did remark because I know this and
Speaker 1: I know you don't talk about it really, but your father,
Speaker 1: your dear father, for many years, was the neighborhood Santa Claus,
Speaker 1: wasn't he? That is correct, and you have carried on
Speaker 1: this tradition. And I find that so life affirming and
Speaker 1: so wonderful that you have followed in your father's footsteps
Speaker 1: in that regard. And Sega Clause is now universally loved
Speaker 1: all over the tri State because of that.
Speaker 8: He started things off, and God bless him. And you know,
Speaker 8: I just continue on the tradition. Air Gary, Jeff, That's
Speaker 8: all I do. I know it's very hard touch, it's
Speaker 8: hard to do. It's hard touch fun to do. Very
Speaker 8: few things that happen around me touch my heart like that.
Speaker 8: You know, you see people, you see people out and
Speaker 8: this and that, and kids and some kids are scared
Speaker 8: to death of him.
Speaker 1: Others come up to him like you know that Santa
Speaker 1: is their dad. So it's a have you ever gotten
Speaker 1: up from a second class session with a wet lap segment? No? Okay, good? No,
Speaker 1: at least they controlled themselves while they were in the
Speaker 1: presence of the great. So far, so good, so far,
Speaker 1: so good. What do you got, Seggy?
Speaker 8: All right, yeah, Gary, Jeff, let's see the stooge report
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Speaker 8: NFL says that the Bengals regular season finale in Pittsburgh
Speaker 8: Saturday at eight o'clock. The action here on seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 8: and then the NFL says, you know what, if the
Speaker 8: Bengals win, they're gonna have to agonizingly wait to see
Speaker 8: if they make it or not to say it. The
Speaker 8: Chiefs and Broncos play Sunday. Dolphins and Jets both play
Speaker 8: Sunday with kickoffs at four twenty five.
Speaker 1: Bengals may not know until eight or nine o'clock. And
Speaker 1: they got in Slim and noon, and Slim has left
Speaker 1: the building. Assume him.
Speaker 8: Bengals running back Chase Brown mri yesterday high ankle spring
Speaker 8: of course they lose a day with you know how
Speaker 8: how he progresses. They play Saturday instead of Sunday that game.
Speaker 8: But I would think that Chase Brown's a tough dude.
Speaker 8: He's a game. He's gonna be out there. He's a gamer.
Speaker 1: If he can, if he can walk, he will play
Speaker 1: on Saturday night.
Speaker 8: Bengal fans Joe Burrow and t Higgins are up for
Speaker 8: the FedEx Air and Ground Player that we awards this week.
Speaker 8: Of course, Burrow with that unbelievable game four hundred and
Speaker 8: twelve yards passing three touchdowns. Higgins eleven catches one hundred
Speaker 8: and thirty one yards, including the game winner in overtime.
Speaker 8: Go to Bengals dot com slash FedEx to vote through.
Speaker 8: I think Wednesday, let's see more on Bengals line tonight
Speaker 8: six oh five right here on seven hundred WLW Final
Speaker 8: Monday Nighter of the Game, A regular season set regular
Speaker 8: season Monday Nighter Detroit and San Francisco at seven thirty
Speaker 8: Fox Sports thirteen to sixty.
Speaker 1: Go Lions. You know what, I really really was amazed
Speaker 1: at Sequan Sequon Barkley's season two thousand nine yard ninth
Speaker 1: player in NFL history to rush for two thousand yards
Speaker 1: in his season and you know, fifteen games of sixteen
Speaker 1: games so far. Now should there be an asterisk? Though?
Speaker 1: If he broke Eric Dickerson's record, he's one hundred and
Speaker 1: one yards behind him. I don't even know if he's
Speaker 1: going to play for the Eagles with since they've clinched
Speaker 1: the NFC East with the action over the weekend. But
Speaker 1: if he played and he broke Eric Dickerson's record, all right,
Speaker 1: should there be an asterisk? Like because he did a merit?
Speaker 1: He did it in so many games versus seventeen games
Speaker 1: versus sixteen games or that's.
Speaker 8: All up to the National Football League. I don't know,
Speaker 8: but pretty impressive, amend you run for two thousand yards?
Speaker 8: I do every day on this show if somebody's chasing
Speaker 8: college foot Thank you. Congrats to Chuck Martin and the
Speaker 8: Miami RedHawks. They won the Snoop dogg Arizona Ball Saturday.
Speaker 8: They rolled over Colorado State forty three to seventeen. So
Speaker 8: a big one there for the RedHawks. College basketball tonight,
Speaker 8: number sixteen, that's right, you heard it right, sixteen. Cincinnati
Speaker 8: Bearcats open Big twelve play at Kansas State six thirty
Speaker 8: here on seven hundred WLW. I say number sixteen because
Speaker 8: the AP Top twenty five new poll came out, and
Speaker 8: uh uh oh, there's that's the wife.
Speaker 1: Uh oh oh, I must be in trouble.
Speaker 8: You want me to answer that? No, that's okay. Number
Speaker 8: sixteen Bearcats. They are up to number sixteen and in
Speaker 8: the AP poll of ten and one, and also Defiance
Speaker 8: and Miami. Tonight the RedHawks play Hello, Hello, Denise, So
Speaker 8: what are you wearing? I'll have to call her back.
Speaker 8: Why I never bring that phote in here? What I
Speaker 8: was going to say, at least turn turn, turn the
Speaker 8: sound off.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 8: I apparely I apparely know how to work it. So
Speaker 8: I'll have to call her back. All right, Well, if
Speaker 8: you want to, you can. You can go in and
Speaker 8: do that now on the air. Okay, sure, I'm sure
Speaker 8: I did something wrong. And also in the AP Kentucky
Speaker 8: is tenth this week, so they stay number ten this week.
Speaker 1: P doue a number twenty. This is the best bear
Speaker 1: Cats basketball team we've seen in a little while. Amen
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 8: See what happened the night against k State, and see
Speaker 8: you can get a good start.
Speaker 1: For the We we're seven and eleven last year in
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, and they're an inaugural season, so we're
Speaker 1: a little different this year, looking for improvement. Probably a
Speaker 1: little different this year with a team that Wes Miller's
Speaker 1: got Well segment. Thank you for your love and your lust,
Speaker 1: get us out dot Duge Report, Sir Gary.
Speaker 8: Jeff on this New Year's eveve everybody's take care and
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four is almost over and now looking toward
Speaker 8: them twenty twenty five. We leave you with the immortal
Speaker 8: words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 1: Thank you, short and sweet. There you go. You turn
Speaker 1: your phone off. I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to do it. We have a special guest, the wild Man,
Speaker 1: coming up next on seven hundred WLW. Yeah. On the
Speaker 1: back side of another bingals victory, the wild Thing himself
Speaker 1: on the telephone, Old Man Walker joins us the sports
Speaker 1: commando for a few moments. Wild Man, Yeah, you've been
Speaker 1: you've been making me hang on forever from Babbling's say.
Speaker 7: Going on and on, come on man.
Speaker 1: Well, he had to get his sports out of the way,
Speaker 1: wild Man. When we just took care, we took care
Speaker 1: of the Stooge report stuff, which is I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna have done what he did in in five minutes.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Well, it's all about it's all about
Speaker 1: filling the time with content. Wild Man, Sometimes you gotta
Speaker 1: stretch it out. Baby. So were you were you bathing
Speaker 1: in nacho cheese? After the Bengals victory.
Speaker 9: On Well, I was nervous like everybody yells, especially after
Speaker 9: the blunder the blunders of the clock management by Zach Taylor.
Speaker 9: But Joe Burrow, without a doubt, is the greatest quarterback
Speaker 9: in Bengal's history bar none. The things that guy can do,
Speaker 9: and with t Higgins and Jamar Chase as his two
Speaker 9: wide receivers, man that offense, there's no telling what they
Speaker 9: can do. And they gotta they gotta recite t Higgins.
Speaker 9: I know, you know what I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 9: They've got to resign t Higgins because Joe has already
Speaker 9: made you know, has already made mention that they got
Speaker 9: to do it.
Speaker 1: And I think Joe will.
Speaker 9: Restructure his contract because a lot of a lot of
Speaker 9: quarterbacks are high paid athletes, will do that in order
Speaker 9: to uh, you know, to get other players in the
Speaker 9: Remember Ken Griffy Junior gave the Reds a discount for
Speaker 9: it to come here. The Reds did that. So t
Speaker 9: Higgins is going to resign. We know Jamar Chase is
Speaker 9: going to be signed, but that all the scenarios that
Speaker 9: we're talking about. Gary Jeff so and so has to lose.
Speaker 9: Number one, the Bengals have to beat the Steelers. But
Speaker 9: here's the problem. The Ravens play before the Steelers. If
Speaker 9: the Ravens win, will Mike Tomlin play all his guys
Speaker 9: the whole game?
Speaker 1: Think about it?
Speaker 7: Because they're already in the playoffs anyway.
Speaker 1: What's the same scenario. Then, it's the same scenario the
Speaker 1: Bengals are facing with the teams that have to lose
Speaker 1: in order for them to make You know, does Kansas
Speaker 1: Does Kansas City? Kansas City play Patrick Mahomes and Pacheco
Speaker 1: and all the rest the Travis Kelcey do they play
Speaker 1: their frontline characters since they've already cinched up everything in
Speaker 1: the AFC West.
Speaker 7: Well, Carson West.
Speaker 9: Carson Wentz is not a is not the quarterback that
Speaker 9: the Cleveland Browns do on the field yesterday. Carson Wentz
Speaker 9: is a good quarterback. I told you that I don't
Speaker 9: think the Chiefs are gonna lay down. I don't think
Speaker 9: they will lay down. They may, you know, rest a
Speaker 9: couple of guys, But if you sit around for two
Speaker 9: weeks and don't play, you get rusty.
Speaker 7: You get rusty. Players are creatures of habits.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: Some guys of course need some rest. But I don't
Speaker 9: look for the Chiefs. But the thing is, if the
Speaker 9: Ravens win their game over the Browns, like like the
Speaker 9: Browns are gonna upset them, the Ravens are in. They
Speaker 9: win the division and the Steelers are in. So why
Speaker 9: should the Steelers really risk some injuries to some of
Speaker 9: their guys.
Speaker 7: I mean, they're gonna play some guys. I'm just saying
Speaker 7: throwing that out there.
Speaker 9: Then the Bengals have to wait on the New York
Speaker 9: Jets playing the Miami Dolphins in New York. I don't
Speaker 9: know what the weather report is, Gary Jeff.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's where the Jets, where the hometown Jets will
Speaker 1: be roundly booed by the fans for the is they
Speaker 1: deservedly should for the terrible season that they put out
Speaker 1: on the field. Aaron Rodgers is way too old to
Speaker 1: even step onto an NFL turf.
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers has not had that bad of a year.
Speaker 7: Breese Hall, they made a big deal.
Speaker 1: He can't remove. He's a statue wild man. They're gonna
Speaker 1: eat him for lunch, not protecting him more than damn.
Speaker 1: Miami is gonna eat the Jets for lunch. So you
Speaker 1: can just forget about a Bengals win.
Speaker 9: And Los Breestall hasn't done crap for the Jets this year,
Speaker 9: So don't lay it all on Aaron Rodgers. Don't lay
Speaker 9: it on Aaron Rodgers. It's not all Aaron Rodgers. Look
Speaker 9: at his numbers. His numbers are not that bad. But okay,
Speaker 9: you're gonna have that game, and of course you got
Speaker 9: the Chiefs and the Broncos, and we're gonna have to
Speaker 9: wait to see at what happens there.
Speaker 1: The quarterback, the quarterback that's been sacked more than Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow this year is playing for the New York Jets
Speaker 1: because he cannot move, and their line isn't worth a
Speaker 1: dam right, he can't move isn't worth a damn. He
Speaker 1: can't move.
Speaker 9: He's still got some good receivers, but they don't have
Speaker 9: no run in attack. Gary Jeff, where you've been, Brice Hall,
Speaker 9: they made a big deal all season long, all these
Speaker 9: fantasy football experts, Breese Hall, Breese Hall, Briestall hasn't done crap,
Speaker 9: hasn't done crap. He's been a total disappointment. And that's
Speaker 9: one of the problems with their offense.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to it. Let's get back to the
Speaker 1: Bengals in their season. Is Joe Burrow a better quarterback
Speaker 1: than Josh Allen.
Speaker 7: I think they're right. I think they're head to head.
Speaker 7: I think they're right.
Speaker 1: You're a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 9: I think Mahomes has got him just by a nose
Speaker 9: and and a couple of and a few.
Speaker 1: Alright, Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 9: I think about Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow tied tied.
Speaker 7: Lamar can do things, but Joe can do things.
Speaker 1: Lamar Kant should, Joe should? Joe receives should, Joe receive
Speaker 1: a lot of consideration for m VP, even even the Bengals.
Speaker 9: Oh, Absolutely, considering the line that he's had this year,
Speaker 9: how many times he's been sacked. Absolutely, But if I
Speaker 9: had a vote, I'm sorry, I gotta go with Josh Allen.
Speaker 9: I got to go with Josh Allen. He's been a supert.
Speaker 9: He's something else.
Speaker 1: He really is.
Speaker 7: Now, can't Buffalo break the jinks? Who knows? We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Buffalo's akin to going to Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and losing them, just like the Bengals.
Speaker 9: Yeah, four of them, four straight years, Just.
Speaker 1: Like the Minnesota Vikings who lost four Super Bowls back
Speaker 1: in the day, in the in the era of the
Speaker 1: Purple People leaders in fran Tarkington. Uh. But it's it's
Speaker 1: all down to the Bengals beating the Steelers on Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: That has to happen before any of the rest.
Speaker 9: So exact, Damondo's Arnold, Sam Arnold giving up for dead
Speaker 9: by the Jets and goes to Minnesota.
Speaker 7: He could run for mayor and win in the landslide.
Speaker 1: Well, have you have you met the mayor of Minneapolis?
Speaker 1: You have you seen that turkey too? No, no, you
Speaker 1: don't want to know that guy. All right, wild man,
Speaker 1: we will watch with the rest of the world, and
Speaker 1: we will see what happens. The Bengals hanging on by
Speaker 1: a thread.
Speaker 9: Feel good about the Bengals beatnes Steelers, I really do.
Speaker 7: I feel about Steelers. Got to be shake shaken a
Speaker 7: little bit.
Speaker 9: With the offense the points that Bengals be able to
Speaker 9: put up on the board the last four weeks. But
Speaker 9: like you said, and you wear that line out, we'll
Speaker 9: see what happens.
Speaker 7: I'll talk to you next.
Speaker 1: Year, all right, wild Man, take care, Dennis Wildman Walker,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff In for Willie and the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Stephen Wiliford from Gun Owners of America. Our next guest,
Speaker 1: the Great American Bill Cunningham, is getting a much deserved
Speaker 1: rest somewhere. He is laying down in his folding lawn
Speaker 1: chair under his sun lamp, with cucumber slices over his eyes,
Speaker 1: drinking a tall, frosty non alcoholic smoothie and saying, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I was working, but everybody needs a break, Bill,
Speaker 1: and thus you've got me again today, Gary jeff Walker
Speaker 1: in for Willie on this Monday before the new year.
Speaker 1: Great to be with you. I'm going to flash back
Speaker 1: now to November of twenty seventeen and the small community
Speaker 1: of Sutherland Springs, Texas, a church Sunday morning, shots fired
Speaker 1: inside that church at the time, the worst mass shooting
Speaker 1: in Texas history. A place where they respect and allow
Speaker 1: our Second Amendment rights, and because of that a good
Speaker 1: guy with the gun was able to stop the carnage?
Speaker 1: Was I able to stop the bad guy with the
Speaker 1: gun who was on his way to commit more murder
Speaker 1: in Mayhem? But a man named Stephen Williford, the hero
Speaker 1: of the day, wasn't going to allow this guy to
Speaker 1: get away, and he didn't. And I remember seeing him
Speaker 1: on the news and I thought to myself, I want
Speaker 1: to shake that man's hand. Someday. I want to meet
Speaker 1: that guy, the good guy with the gun from Gun
Speaker 1: Owners of America. Stephen Williford joins us now on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. Stephen, Happy New Year. I hope you
Speaker 1: had a good Christmas. How are you?
Speaker 10: I had an excellent Christmas and I'm doing great. How
Speaker 10: are you doing today?
Speaker 1: GOODA take us all back to that day and what transpired,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to what's ahead for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind.
Speaker 11: Well.
Speaker 10: So the guy started shooting through the walls and windows.
Speaker 11: Of your gear own church and murdering people.
Speaker 1: So where were you?
Speaker 11: I was at home.
Speaker 10: I was actually in my bedroom relaxing, and I didn't
Speaker 10: have shoes on even and he started shooting through the
Speaker 10: walls and windows, and the people in church first thought
Speaker 10: it was fireworks and somebody was popping fireworks, and then
Speaker 10: the light fixtures overhead started bursting and glass started flying
Speaker 10: and people started falling, and they realized it was a shooting,
Speaker 10: and they thought it was a drive by and he
Speaker 10: would be gone well. Instead he circled through three sides
Speaker 10: of the building, shooting through the walls and windows, and
Speaker 10: then went in through the doors, shooting through the doors,
Speaker 10: and moved from pew to pew, and my daughter made
Speaker 10: me realize it was shooting going on. I grabbed an
Speaker 10: AR fifteen and a handful of ammunition, put into the
Speaker 10: magazine and grinnered across the street and.
Speaker 11: He had just shot Chris.
Speaker 10: Workman in the back, paralyzing him for life through the
Speaker 10: view and he moved to shooting, and he was gunner,
Speaker 10: shooting at point blank range. And I yelled out as
Speaker 10: I was running across the street, and he heard me,
Speaker 10: and he came out of the church shooting at me,
Speaker 10: and I ran behind to pick up for cover, and
Speaker 10: he hit the truck in front of me, shattered the
Speaker 10: windshield of the car behind me, hit the house behind me,
Speaker 10: and I put six out of six rounds on him.
Speaker 10: He was able to get in his vehicle, which was
Speaker 10: sitting in the middle of the street, driver's side door, open,
Speaker 10: engine running, and he fled the scene and I flagged
Speaker 10: down a truck and we chased him eleven point six
Speaker 10: miles before he committed suicide. He had a Class three
Speaker 10: body armor and a ballistic bulletproof helmet, and that's why
Speaker 10: most of my shots didn't count.
Speaker 11: But I was able to put a.
Speaker 10: Shot between the plates and one high and his legs,
Speaker 10: and a bust of one across his forehead.
Speaker 1: Also, my gosh, I mean, are you thinking anything at
Speaker 1: that moment? All you were thinking was this guy is
Speaker 1: shooting the church and I've I've got to stop him.
Speaker 1: I've got the power to do that because I've got
Speaker 1: a weapon, I've got AMMO, and I've got the training
Speaker 1: to go after this guy. I mean, I can't even
Speaker 1: imagine what's going through your mind when you first realized
Speaker 1: what was happening and what you had to do. What
Speaker 1: did you think?
Speaker 10: Make no mistake, I did not shoot him because I
Speaker 10: hated him. I shot him because I loved everybody in
Speaker 10: that church. Generation in Southerland Springs, I grew up on
Speaker 10: a dairy right there in Southerland Springs. My great grandfather
Speaker 10: bought the property and I was fourth generation there and
Speaker 10: I never wanted.
Speaker 11: To live anywhere but Southerland Springs.
Speaker 10: Total population is under six hundred people. I knew almost
Speaker 10: everybody in that church, and I was just resolved stopping.
Speaker 1: Him, right. So, I mean, there wasn't a whole lot
Speaker 1: of thinking that went into it. You just knew you
Speaker 1: had to react and act.
Speaker 10: Absolutely absolutely, I truly believe that God called me for
Speaker 10: that moment, had protected me in that moment.
Speaker 1: Also, amen, Yeah, because he came out of the church
Speaker 1: shooting at you when you yelled, and absolutely.
Speaker 10: So absolutely, Gun Owners of America has been fighting to
Speaker 10: keep your right to be able to do to defend yourself,
Speaker 10: and to keep AR fifteen's legal nationwide.
Speaker 11: Please go to gun owners dot org and find up.
Speaker 10: I now work for them, and I go from state
Speaker 10: to state fighting these laws. They take me in to
Speaker 10: state capitals and I speak on behalf of Gun Owners
Speaker 10: of America.
Speaker 1: All right, So as we look twenty twenty five in
Speaker 1: the eye here, in the next thirty six hours or whatever,
Speaker 1: there are new laws that are being enacted or certainly
Speaker 1: being attempted to be enacted with or without court challenges. Specifically,
Speaker 1: I understand in Delaware and Minnesota, which are two prime
Speaker 1: suspects for states that want to deprive Americans of their
Speaker 1: constitutional rights, their individual constitutional rights, at least their pasttrack
Speaker 1: record says, So what is being proposed and what's going
Speaker 1: to happen? What are the new gun laws in the
Speaker 1: states in twenty twenty five that you would be opposing
Speaker 1: and you were looking forward to fighting along with gun
Speaker 1: owners of America, Stephen.
Speaker 11: Well, things like the assault weapons ban.
Speaker 10: And we have one watch for the date of January seventeenth,
Speaker 10: because the Sloop bill is going before the before the
Speaker 10: Supreme Court, and that bill basically we are pushing to
Speaker 10: try to overturn Maryland's assault weapons ban, and.
Speaker 11: The on the seventeenth, the Supreme.
Speaker 10: Court will let us know whether they are going to
Speaker 10: hear the case. And if the Supreme Court here's this case,
Speaker 10: we are ninety seven percent sure that they will overturn
Speaker 10: assault weapons as if they call them bands nationwide all
Speaker 10: the way. California will even have to deal with it
Speaker 10: if it gets overturned as second amen as a infringement
Speaker 10: on the Second Amendment and we are going to restore
Speaker 10: a bunch of our rights that won't let any state
Speaker 10: make an assault weapons BAM or a high capacity magazine baan.
Speaker 10: We are fighting all the way to the Supreme Court
Speaker 10: to make it happen.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: The people who oppose your right and my right to
Speaker 1: own and bear firearms and oppose our god given constitutional
Speaker 1: right to do so under the Constitution of the United
Speaker 1: States of America, they demonize certain kinds of weapons because
Speaker 1: it's easy to do so, from what I understand, because
Speaker 1: the weapons may look formidable, they may look scary, but
Speaker 1: they also mischaracterize those weapons as assault weapons. An AR
Speaker 1: fifteen is not an assault weapon, is it.
Speaker 11: No, it is not.
Speaker 10: It's a tem automatic sporting rifle. And just because it
Speaker 10: may look like an M sixteen.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 10: And even if it were, I believe our constitution would
Speaker 10: provide that we be able to even own that.
Speaker 11: And again, they really.
Speaker 10: They want to focus on something that isn't the problem.
Speaker 10: Even the FBI stats say more people are beat to
Speaker 10: death with hammers every year than murdered with a rifle
Speaker 10: in general, and that's all rifles, whether it's a bolt
Speaker 10: action or anything else. More people are beat to death
Speaker 10: with so by their measure, should we be going after
Speaker 10: Stamley Hammers for damming hammers?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 1: I guess. There's a famous story that I always cite
Speaker 1: when I come into these conversations with people who oppose
Speaker 1: gun ownership, and it dates back about gosh, twenty five
Speaker 1: or thirty years There's a story in California, and it
Speaker 1: may have been a Vietnamese immigrant who had moved to
Speaker 1: the country legally whatever, but he beat his neighbor to
Speaker 1: death with a bag of frozen squirrels that he had
Speaker 1: out in the garage in a freezer. People with ill
Speaker 1: intent are going to use whatever they have handy if
Speaker 1: they want to perpetrate this kind of evil, if they
Speaker 1: want to murder someone, if they want to cause physical
Speaker 1: harm to someone. The gun does not by itself spring
Speaker 1: up and start shoot people. It is the person behind
Speaker 1: the gun. And again, being a good guy with the
Speaker 1: gun is the only way to stop a bad guy
Speaker 1: with the gun. And I'm sorry we don't have enough
Speaker 1: law enforcement around us all the time, especially now, to
Speaker 1: defend ourselves when we need to. And gun owners of
Speaker 1: America and people like you are speaking out, and you're
Speaker 1: a living example that a good guy with a gun
Speaker 1: is the only way to stop a bad guy with
Speaker 1: a gun, And some of these states are proposing in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five even more restrictive areas that are gun
Speaker 1: free zones. This is where the majority of these kinds
Speaker 1: of mass shootings happen in gun free zones.
Speaker 10: Correct, ninety four percent of all mass shootings happen in
Speaker 10: gun free zones. So if you are in a gun
Speaker 10: free zone, it is way more likely. And remember remember
Speaker 10: that when second count police are minutes away, please make
Speaker 10: it there in time to mop up blood, take evidence,
Speaker 10: and hopefully hopefully arrest someone and hope that a judge
Speaker 10: or a jury doesn't let that person off. Bad guys
Speaker 10: are going to get guns, and bad guys are going
Speaker 10: to ignore your gun free zones.
Speaker 11: And that's where they prefer to attack.
Speaker 10: Is in a gun free zone because they know they
Speaker 10: have rest chance of resistance.
Speaker 1: All right, So the Minnesota gun law that has been
Speaker 1: proposed in twenty twenty where it's perfectly okay to burn
Speaker 1: down the town as we saw back in the BLM
Speaker 1: Rights in twenty twenty, but it's not okay for a
Speaker 1: law abiding citizen to have a gun with what's called
Speaker 1: a binary trigger. What is a binary trigger? And why
Speaker 1: is it stupid that Minnesota is trying to ban binary
Speaker 1: triggers in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 10: First, they're just looking to ban whatever they can get
Speaker 10: the hands on, and it sounds really nasty to a
Speaker 10: binary trigger. I own two binary triggers, and it functions
Speaker 10: just like a regular sem automatic if you have it
Speaker 10: in reglar mode, but you can switch it over to
Speaker 10: binary mode, and it fires once you pull the trigger,
Speaker 10: and it fires once when.
Speaker 11: You let go of the trigger.
Speaker 10: Okay, so it fires on the pull and on the
Speaker 10: release of the trigger. And there's not been any crimes
Speaker 10: committed with binary triggers.
Speaker 11: They just want to ban something so they can say, look,
Speaker 11: this is what we're doing.
Speaker 1: It's all positive.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's all postering.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 11: Rifles in general every year.
Speaker 10: And this is FBI stats kill less people than hammers.
Speaker 11: Think about that for a moment. And knives over double bond.
Speaker 10: So rather than ban a rifle, knives killed twice as many,
Speaker 10: don't you think, you know, if you were real serious
Speaker 10: about what mattered.
Speaker 11: And I'm not advocating for banning knives, you know.
Speaker 1: I was just going to get to that Stephen because
Speaker 1: if hammers were the problem, even though hammers kill more
Speaker 1: people than rifles every year in this country, according to
Speaker 1: the FBI, if hammers were the problem, every construction site
Speaker 1: in America would be a blood bath. It's not the
Speaker 1: inanimate object that is the issue. The issue is societal.
Speaker 1: It is the person who was holding that object. And
Speaker 1: you cannot restrict people who have the right to defend
Speaker 1: themselves and their families from owning a gun because somebody
Speaker 1: did something stupid or evil with a gun.
Speaker 10: Understand, the guy that murdered people in seven and Springs
Speaker 10: had an AR fifteen and so did I.
Speaker 11: That AR fifteen that I own is a tool, and
Speaker 11: any tool can be.
Speaker 10: Used to do something magnificent or it can be misused
Speaker 10: to create devastations. And you know, you put a hammer
Speaker 10: in the hands of a gifted carpenter and he can build.
Speaker 11: A mansion, or he can are a.
Speaker 10: Criminal that's going to have ill intent, can murder a
Speaker 10: man with a hammer. It's an inanimate object, yep. It
Speaker 10: has no conscience, and so is a rifle, so as
Speaker 10: a pistol. So there's a knife or cane for that matter,
Speaker 10: or even a vehicle that you can take and run through.
Speaker 11: A Christmas party and murdered many people.
Speaker 1: That happened in Germany in that in the Kindle.
Speaker 11: Market, and just a couple of years ago it happened here.
Speaker 11: That may have been in Minnesota. I don't remember exactly
Speaker 11: where that was where he ran through the Christmas parade
Speaker 11: and murdered one.
Speaker 1: Of the things that they are guarding against in New
Speaker 1: York and Times Square for the New Year's Eve celebration,
Speaker 1: Stephen Wiliford, Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners of America,
Speaker 1: thank you for being a part of the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show today and thanks for the words of wisdom, and
Speaker 1: thank you for being a hero with a gun. God
Speaker 1: bless God, bless you. Got another student's report on the
Speaker 1: way and another special guest before we're done. News next
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW one ten.
Speaker 12: Left in overtime, the Bengals trying to win it from
Speaker 12: the three yard line of Denver Burrow looking to throw
Speaker 12: his pass.
Speaker 11: It is.
Speaker 1: My tea touchdown.
Speaker 7: It's Ovengals, and.
Speaker 12: The final playoff spot in the AFC will not be
Speaker 12: decided until the final week of the regular season. The
Speaker 12: Cincinnati Bengals are still alive as Joe Burrow hits T
Speaker 12: Higgins for a game winning touchdown.
Speaker 13: Dan, that's three touchdown passes over three hundred yards passing.
Speaker 13: His streak is still alive two hundred and fifty or
Speaker 13: more yards passing, three touchdowns or more for eight straight games.
Speaker 13: I mean, you already had the NFL record. He's continuing
Speaker 13: to build on it. This is a magical season. Joe Burrow,
Speaker 13: Jamar Chase and Gee Higgins. What a threesome?
Speaker 1: He quiet, I'm broadcasting guy segment. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: a threesome that exciting? No, Joe Burrow, Jamar, Jason T. Higgins,
Speaker 1: just keep playing, keep winning. See what happened. That's one
Speaker 1: heck of a threesome. That's what they said. They're getting
Speaker 1: it done.
Speaker 8: They can keep the third guy because I don't think
Speaker 8: Number one is going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, And and I don't think Jersey one
Speaker 1: is going anywhere.
Speaker 8: Maybe that guy in California might Uh is a Bengal fan,
Speaker 8: that one, that what one point two billion fan?
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that.
Speaker 8: I don't think so, But I mean, what if he is,
Speaker 8: maybe he could contribute to the to the coffers.
Speaker 1: You mean, just a little public contribution from a from
Speaker 1: a private source to help the Bengals sign Higgins. Why
Speaker 1: not we all do? Pretty big Bengals fan? Should should
Speaker 1: we do? Should we do like a crowd sourcing a
Speaker 1: crowd funding? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, I think that's why we it.
Speaker 1: But who knows.
Speaker 8: I mean, maybe they can work it out, their work
Speaker 8: their magic down there, Gary, Jeff and keep all three
Speaker 8: be nice to Burrow's not going anywhere chasing that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can keep number five around for a while.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have somebody on defense who can
Speaker 1: tackle consistently to.
Speaker 8: Make some of those deferred payments to mister Burrow, kind
Speaker 8: of like Ken Griffyth juniors. Oh, I know the Reds
Speaker 8: are still pay I think this was this was the
Speaker 8: last year and how many years ago to do?
Speaker 1: Is now a few? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Well, Bobby Bonias, I think still getting paid till for
Speaker 8: like five or six more years.
Speaker 1: So from the mass like it's like if you want
Speaker 1: the billion dollars in the mega millions and you all
Speaker 1: for the thirty year payout they made it, it's like
Speaker 1: a holiday Bobby Bonilla day.
Speaker 8: I think it's July the first he gets a check
Speaker 8: for like I don't know how many millions of dollars.
Speaker 8: Really skill played in played in twenty years easily, maybe
Speaker 8: thirty years.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. So maybe mister Burr was a
Speaker 1: for some of that.
Speaker 8: Then give it to number five, give them to number one,
Speaker 8: gives them to number five.
Speaker 1: Fans are happy, everybody will be happy. Well, you know, Joe, uh,
Speaker 1: Joe bought his offensive Lineman samurai swords. They wanted guns,
Speaker 1: they wanted guns, but great. I think the samurai swords
Speaker 1: may be more dangerous than the guns. I just had
Speaker 1: Gunners of America on the air for last half hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, more people, according to the FBI's stats,
Speaker 1: are killed in America every year. What you think that
Speaker 1: the weapon might be a rifle. We hear about the
Speaker 1: dangers of AR fifty assault weapon. Right, No, hammers. More
Speaker 1: people in America are killed with hammers, murdered with hammers
Speaker 1: than rifles. Seg. But you never hear that on the news,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And I'll tell you what else you
Speaker 1: don't hear on the news. You don't hear that the
Speaker 1: UC Bearcats are ranked number sixteen in the latest on
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention it because Matt Reese just said they
Speaker 1: were seventeenth ranked on the news at two thirty. I'll
Speaker 1: have to go in. They are in disciplined the news.
Speaker 1: Can you yes? Can I watch.
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Speaker 8: Bengals regular season finale against at Pittsburgh is Saturday night
Speaker 8: at eight. If the Bengals win, they have to agonizingly
Speaker 8: wait for the Chiefs and Broncos and Dolphins and Jets
Speaker 8: results both Sunday. Those kick off at four twentive.
Speaker 1: So the Jets and the Dolphins are playing the last
Speaker 1: game on the schedule next Sunday or next day they
Speaker 1: have they have a Sunday night game, I believe. So
Speaker 1: the Bengals have to if they beat Pittsburgh, Denver's got
Speaker 1: to lose to Kansas City and the Dolphins. The Jets
Speaker 1: can ease out one more win this year over the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 8: It is Aaron Rodgers pulled himself out of the game yesterday.
Speaker 8: That guy ought to just say that's it because his
Speaker 8: career and he can't move his career is. His career
Speaker 8: has just gone down the toilet ever since he went
Speaker 8: to New York. Bengals running back Chase Brown has a
Speaker 8: high ankle sprain. His availability on Saturday will depend on
Speaker 8: how much he progresses throughout the week. More tonight on
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Speaker 8: After six thirty, the show goes excuse me to ESPN
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Speaker 8: You're off early tomorrow because uh one thirday Xavier plays
Speaker 8: at the.
Speaker 1: Great American Show will only last from noon to one
Speaker 1: thirty tomorrow. I'm going to pack all this action into
Speaker 1: ninety minutes instead of the usual play hours WOW and
Speaker 1: afternoon basketball. Also, I will also be doing a nightcap
Speaker 1: tomorrow night at nine WOW. And it is a recap
Speaker 1: of my favorite Greater American History on the radio interviews
Speaker 1: with the likes of my radio heroes through the years,
Speaker 1: Lee Habibe, Pat Saint John Radio Hall of Famer, Yes,
Speaker 1: John Records, Landecker, who I grew up listening to in
Speaker 1: Chicago on WLS in the early nineteen seventies, Sir, and
Speaker 1: one Shotgun Tom Kelly who has a book and a
Speaker 1: star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame all featured tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: As we counted.
Speaker 8: About that huge What are you going to do for
Speaker 8: New Year's Eve? Is huddles open? No, We're going to Ripley.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, we're going to go see our friends in Ripley.
Speaker 8: That I talked to Brookie's Saloon. Every Saturday morning, We're
Speaker 8: going to go to Doug and Angie's house and have
Speaker 8: his seafood spectacular.
Speaker 1: About that nice? I have every hour another entree of
Speaker 1: delectable gifts. Treasures from the ocean will be featured on
Speaker 1: the menu. Maybe some lobster tales, who knows, some oysters Rockefeller,
Speaker 1: some coconut shrimp, some tuna on the grill every hour.
Speaker 1: I'd have to crash that party segment. Get us out
Speaker 1: of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 8: Gary Jeff in honor of a beautiful day here in
Speaker 8: the Tri State, Then go Bengals, who day. We leave
Speaker 8: you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 3: Philly, you gotta get off the doll fours and next
Speaker 3: year come with me to the Little Brown Drug in Delaware.
Speaker 4: It is is a is a great day to see
Speaker 4: hors racing its best.
Speaker 1: Very nice, Thank you, seg yes, sir, And with that,
Speaker 1: we have another special guest at the end of the
Speaker 1: Steward Report, the one the only fur Ball joins us. Now,
Speaker 1: Andy Furman, how are you?
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to the segment.
Speaker 1: He's still here. He's still He's still in the studios.
Speaker 3: My friend, I heard you're I heard you talking over
Speaker 3: there with SEGGI okay, number one, you're upset. Tomorrow is
Speaker 3: going to be like only like one O, one thirty.
Speaker 3: I promise you're gonna build the station for three hours
Speaker 3: of work that I know.
Speaker 4: I know you.
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve. You're going to Ripley. You're going to Ripley, Ohio?
Speaker 3: Is that right? You go anywhere for a preemeal. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: No one knows whore Ripley is. It's not even on
Speaker 3: the freaking mapping. And you'll go there for a.
Speaker 1: Have you ever really, have you ever been to Ripley, Ohio?
Speaker 1: Do you know the people I know in Ripley, Ohio?
Speaker 1: Do you do you?
Speaker 3: I don't believe that, Ohio. How's that you don't believe Ripley?
Speaker 1: Believe it or not? It is. It's the lovely little
Speaker 1: village on the Ohio River, and they're full of great people.
Speaker 1: And there's what do you mean control me? What you're
Speaker 1: gonna me? That's your middle name? Yeah, your middle name? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You don't understand how wonderful Ripley really is. It's it's
Speaker 1: it is the jewel of Brown County, Ohio. How now,
Speaker 1: Brown County?
Speaker 3: If it's brown, flush it down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if itit's Brown, flush it down. What other vitriol
Speaker 1: have you got for me?
Speaker 7: For a ball?
Speaker 1: Let's hear it? Give it that one pho.
Speaker 3: First of all, let me tell you why I'm going
Speaker 3: a little nuts. Okay. I just came from Costco. My
Speaker 3: wife asked me to go to Costco. I tell you what,
Speaker 3: I'd rather be in a plane with turbulence to go
Speaker 3: to Costco. How's that? It is unbelievable, you know what?
Speaker 3: Those people are either stupid or they're just nervy. Okay.
Speaker 3: I get online and the line was like seven people
Speaker 3: deep at every line. Okay, And the guy comes on
Speaker 3: there with a woman and they're sharing the bill. Hey,
Speaker 3: come on, doing at home, don't do it for this
Speaker 3: item is yours? Just side his mind. I'll pay for this.
Speaker 3: Are you freaking kidding?
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 3: I almost walked out. Really, how stupid could you be?
Speaker 3: How nervy could you be? You want to split the bill?
Speaker 3: I get it, it's okay doing at home. Don't do it?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, hold on, let me get this right, Andy,
Speaker 1: Because you made a significant point. I think that needs
Speaker 1: to be re emphasized because if you've noticed women out
Speaker 1: to lunch or and I see it all the time
Speaker 1: at the bar where it's two or three women who
Speaker 1: come in to have a few drinks and then it's
Speaker 1: time for the tab and they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: which one is which, and who who had what, and
Speaker 1: how much they and all of the rest of that.
Speaker 1: But did you say this was a guy and a
Speaker 1: woman at Costco?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you something. I will tell you
Speaker 3: this though, I applaud the restaurants, at least the Greater
Speaker 3: Cincinnati because for the last several years, when you go
Speaker 3: get the meal, do you want one check? Or you're
Speaker 3: splin to ask you? They asked you prior to the meal,
Speaker 3: which is wonderful because I don't want to go through that.
Speaker 3: But I went through it today at Costco, the guys
Speaker 3: spend over two hundred and fifty bucks or they and
Speaker 3: they're splitting the bill.
Speaker 1: Years now, andy, let me finish, all right, Yes, So
Speaker 1: three guys come into the bar and there are and
Speaker 1: and I'll say several tabs, and one will always step
Speaker 1: up because he's a guy and go, no, I got
Speaker 1: this round. No, don't worry about it. And he looks
Speaker 1: at his buddies and they all agree. That's how men are.
Speaker 1: Women are the ones who usually are haggling over who's
Speaker 1: gonna owe what and how are we gonna split it up.
Speaker 1: But this guy, this supposedly male of the human species,
Speaker 1: was was bartering with or haggling with a woman. If
Speaker 1: you're a guy, you just pay it and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: she pays you back later, maybe she doesn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what their relationship was. But with women you get this.
Speaker 1: With men you should never have this happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound misogynist, because I am. But no,
Speaker 1: if it's a guy involved in this discussion, then he's
Speaker 1: not really a man. I mean, you know, you want
Speaker 1: to you want to you want to check, you want
Speaker 1: to check the hanging downs on that guy.
Speaker 3: Right, we probably probably we probably wearing streights shop. He
Speaker 3: went shoppings because he has none. But I will tell
Speaker 3: you this. It's another thing at Costco. And here's the situation.
Speaker 3: They give a lot of those free samples out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't convinced. Fifty percent of the people that go
Speaker 3: to Costco don't buy Diddley. They go there for free sample.
Speaker 3: You should see the lines who were just a free sample.
Speaker 3: Some guy came there the motor scooter and he held
Speaker 3: up the whole line, the whole aisle, you know, to
Speaker 3: get a slice of pizza. Are you freaking kidding? It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: They give away it, the drinks and pizza and cookies.
Speaker 3: Come on, really, they don't buy it.
Speaker 1: Again, this is not a universal thing, but I believe
Speaker 1: that a lot of people who go shopping in the
Speaker 1: motorized chairs and the scooters are in motorized scooters for
Speaker 1: a reason. And many times that reason is all the
Speaker 1: free pizza they've eaten at Costco. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. But I just want
Speaker 3: to change this because I really and there's such good
Speaker 3: news out there, because I finally I've seen an athlete,
Speaker 3: and I've heard an athlete who has honesty, and I
Speaker 3: love honesty. And it was Eric Dickerson of all people
Speaker 3: who set the single season rushing record back with the Rams.
Speaker 4: Back in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3: Tay Kwan Barkley is one hundred and one yards away
Speaker 3: from that record. And they asked there a differenson yesterday
Speaker 3: what he thought. You know what he said, I don't
Speaker 3: want to break the record. Yeah, it I know, the
Speaker 3: politically correct thing to say. What it would have been,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I wish him well, I hope
Speaker 3: he doesn't. No, no, you know what he said, I
Speaker 3: don't want to break the record. And then you know
Speaker 3: he said, then he says to the reporter, you know,
Speaker 3: and the reporter says, well, records are made to be broken.
Speaker 4: You know what he said.
Speaker 3: You said that because you never had a record. You
Speaker 3: know what, it's playing records.
Speaker 4: Don't love that.
Speaker 3: I do. I do hope say Kwan Barkley breaks the record.
Speaker 3: But I look, the Eagles are playing for nothing. They're
Speaker 3: playing the Giants on Sunday. They're playing for nothing. They've
Speaker 3: already clinched. Okay, they got the number two. So I
Speaker 3: would think it would be wise not to play say
Speaker 3: Kwan Barkley because he needs he needs one hundred and
Speaker 3: one yards to break the record, and that's that's rough.
Speaker 3: Let him be helpful.
Speaker 1: You know how hard it is and how hard pressed
Speaker 1: I am to never agree with you on anything, but
Speaker 1: I told wholeheartedly agree with you on this right And
Speaker 1: the next time somebody just randomly says, well, records are
Speaker 1: made to be broken, I'll just look at it.
Speaker 3: Do you have a right to have one?
Speaker 1: Do you have a record?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your record. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's a broken record, over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: What so you see? You see sixteenth in the country, Andy,
Speaker 1: this is pretty exciting for U see basketball. It's been
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 4: You don't what though?
Speaker 3: If you're not in the final four from five to sixteen,
Speaker 3: five to twenty five doesn't mean anything. It's nice, it's great.
Speaker 3: Like I like the coach. I do like them. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think things are doing well over there. I like
Speaker 3: the fact that they've kept a team intact in this
Speaker 3: era of nil, which is very unusual. And there's a
Speaker 3: good opportunity for them maybe to have these guys come
Speaker 3: back next year because you see what happened. Did you
Speaker 3: see what happened at University of Miami and Florida. Jim
Speaker 3: Laarrenega quit. He quit on Thursday. He said he can't
Speaker 3: handle it anymore. Let me tell you something. You know,
Speaker 3: several years ago he was coaching George Mason University and
Speaker 3: he got a big because they went to the final four.
Speaker 3: He got a big to go to the final four,
Speaker 3: George Mason.
Speaker 1: Where you do?
Speaker 4: He left?
Speaker 3: He up and left and he went to Miami. All right,
Speaker 3: So it's okay for him to do that, but it's
Speaker 3: not okay for his kids up and leave if they
Speaker 3: go to the final four and look for more money
Speaker 3: with their hands out at another university. What are you
Speaker 3: a hypocrite? He's a hypocrite. No, he quit, he couldn't
Speaker 3: face the music. I love this. I love these situations
Speaker 3: where you know it's okay for the coach to do it,
Speaker 3: but the players can't do it. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: Here's here's what else. It burns my biscuits, Andy about
Speaker 1: coaches in college football or back. Yeah, my biscuits. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Oh I happy Hanukah. By the way, it's still going
Speaker 1: on so anyway, So anyway, what really bothers me is
Speaker 1: these coaches, whether it be football or basketball, they get
Speaker 1: they get their team to a bowl game or you know,
Speaker 1: or maybe even the playoff and they go to another
Speaker 1: school and they don't. They ought to be forced to
Speaker 1: coach the team that they got to the bowl before
Speaker 1: they can go off and recruit for the new school.
Speaker 3: Don't you think, well, it's difficult, because I agree, but
Speaker 3: it's very difficult because the NCAA rules of the portal situation.
Speaker 3: The portal is open, so they got to recruit the kids.
Speaker 3: They never get them out of the portal. So the
Speaker 3: whole thing is asked backwards, it really is, and then
Speaker 3: they got to do something about it because it's not right.
Speaker 3: I mean right now. You know, back in the day,
Speaker 3: when the coach is going to Mama and Papa in
Speaker 3: the kid's house in the living room trying to recruit them,
Speaker 3: the questions asked by the kid were how many games
Speaker 3: will we be on TV? And once the schedule? And
Speaker 3: will I start?
Speaker 1: And how much? And how much? How many? How many
Speaker 1: unmarked bills are in that envelope?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, well they's got that too. That was not
Speaker 3: going to say because that was under the table. But
Speaker 3: the point is now, the first question is that he
Speaker 3: asked the coach how much money do I get? And
Speaker 3: it's a shame because I don't think I love the
Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati. I followed other the years. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they could compete in that conference with schools
Speaker 3: with the likes of Beyonce Stands at Colorado.
Speaker 1: There. These are questions. They are going to have to
Speaker 1: be answered in another time. So let's say that because
Speaker 1: we're out of time.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, you saved me for the end.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yes, the best for last, always for all. I have
Speaker 1: a fantastic New Year.
Speaker 3: Because I was an ass.
Speaker 1: That's why no I had you on the air, because
Speaker 1: you're an ass.
Speaker 3: There you go, all right, Happy Holidays, Field, a merry Christmas,
Speaker 3: Happy New Year, Happy Hank, Happy Kwanza, and a healthy
Speaker 3: new Year. And I hope you wife is healthy too,
Speaker 3: because I know shoes little under the weather.
Speaker 1: Have a good day, sir, talk to you tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 1: Until then, BAM Voyage seven hundred W l W