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<v Speaker 1>Here we are, two days to go, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>ball drops. I love that symbolism on a brand new year.

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<v Speaker 1>The last few hours of twenty twenty four, Gary Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Walker in for Bill Cunningham, and as we begin today,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as you have no doubt heard in the

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<v Speaker 1>news over the weekend, the passing of Jimmy Carter, a

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<v Speaker 1>president too. I remember very well that presidency. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it that much as a consumer because I was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school getting ready to graduate high school. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Carter's lasting legacy for me is he signed into being

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<v Speaker 1>not only the Departments of Energy, but also the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Education in nineteen seventy nine, the year I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from high school, and I have watched education in this

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<v Speaker 1>country precipitously drop in efficacy ever since, number one in

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<v Speaker 1>the world before the institution of the DOE, number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four in twenty twenty four in the world. Thanks Federal government,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Jimmy Carter did other things, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did many many, I believe, good hearted and Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>liked things even after he left the White House. But

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can deny that his only term as president was

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<v Speaker 1>troubled at best. That being said, gonna shift our gears

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<v Speaker 1>now to what's going on as the new year dawns

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel. I believe it's a little bit after seven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the evening there. And from that vantage point

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<v Speaker 1>we have David Rubin, the former mayor of Shilo, Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and also the man behind the Shilo Israel Children's Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find them and fund them at Israel children

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. David Rubin, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary jeffn for Willie.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, hello, Gary Jeff, How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well, sir, And how are things How are

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<v Speaker 1>things in the Promised Land today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just like any any other day in the past

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half, we we go on with our

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<v Speaker 2>lives and you know, as celebrating Karnaka here, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we live our lives even though there's a war going

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<v Speaker 2>on in seven fronts, which is absolutely insane that we're

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<v Speaker 2>a country about the size up New Jersey fighting a

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<v Speaker 2>multiple multi front war on seven fronts, and somehow we

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<v Speaker 2>managed to carry on our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy easily, Yes, not easily, but you do happy. Hanag Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention that as well, here at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still in the middle of the celebration of light. Now, David,

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<v Speaker 1>with the passing of Jimmy Carter, I wanted to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>was it was it a fundamental turn of events in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine or when it happened for Jimmy Carter

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<v Speaker 1>to help negotiate the Camp David Accords between Israel and Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that? How did that change things in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's let's look at it this way. Okay, there

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<v Speaker 2>were two things that come to mind about Jimmy Carter's presidency,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that's not not even to go into.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm speaking as a foreign observer, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I did grow up in the United States, and even

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<v Speaker 2>though I am an American citizen dual citizen with Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm not going to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>domestic issues of if you want to call him, domestic

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<v Speaker 2>issues of the gas lines and people were standing online

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<v Speaker 2>for gas, sitting in their cars online for gas for

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour and a half before they could get

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<v Speaker 2>gas as a result of Carter's economic and foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to get into all of those issues.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I look if we look at foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And again this is putting aside Carter as a as

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, basically honest person. He wasn't a corrupt individual,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly he did a lot of humanitarian work after

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<v Speaker 2>he after he of the presidency. But what I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>what stands out to me is the second that President

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan came into office. That's when the American hostages were

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<v Speaker 2>released from Iran, and they were taking during Carter's presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>It was as a result of a very weak presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, in terms of Israel and the peace agreement

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<v Speaker 2>with Egypt, well it was good that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>piece agreement with Egypt, but overall it started the process

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel giving up parts of its tiny piece of

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<v Speaker 2>land in exchange for a promise of peace. And this

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<v Speaker 2>happened with Egypt. We really always have a peace with

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<v Speaker 2>Egypt is a piece of paper. We don't have much

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of diplomatic relations. It happened with Jordan as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and and they're all still considered potential enemies of Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt is not Egypt is not attacking Israel right now

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<v Speaker 1>and shows no signs that they're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, as I just as I just said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all considered potential enemies of Israel, meaning they they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>forsworn fighting against Israel, and they and they they always

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<v Speaker 2>go against Israel in terms of diplomatic relations. Uh there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, after October seventh, when one thousand, four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli civilians were massacred Egypt, you know, it didn't didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come with a statement against it. They decided to mediate

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<v Speaker 2>between Israel and the Commas terrorist organization. There's something that's

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<v Speaker 2>not right there in that piece. It doesn't smell right.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't smelled right for about forty years, and most

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis feel the same way. So unfortunately, a land for

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<v Speaker 2>peace process has never worked, It never can work. The

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<v Speaker 2>only kind of peace process that can work is what

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<v Speaker 2>we have with the United Arab Emirates for example, in

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<v Speaker 2>which we have peaceful peace. We signed a peace agreement

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<v Speaker 2>based on peace, based on good relations, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only kind of peace agreement that has a chance of working.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're demanding parts of the historic land of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>it can possibly work.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you know what, and that happened during President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's first term. Right, part of the Abraham accurts that

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<v Speaker 1>you're referring to with the UA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, that's right, And that was the novelty.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the creative approach that had not been done

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<v Speaker 2>up to that point. And now, granted Trump, yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>managed to make those piece agreements, but he still hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>started to understand that that forcing Israel to leave any

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the land of Israel and hand them over

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<v Speaker 2>to Muslim terrorists is not going to burn peace. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't quite grasp that. But he came a long way

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<v Speaker 2>from Jimmy Carter and Obama and all the others.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he gets it now. Doesn't he get

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<v Speaker 1>it now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, based on most of his foreign policy advisors, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that he gets it. Yeah, he's He's done

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing job of appointing a team around him that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to advise him on foreign policy. God willing,

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<v Speaker 2>they will, they will be approved. And you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>like prospective Secretary waltz and and Mike Huckabee is the

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<v Speaker 2>ambassador to Israel, and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Hegseth as well as a Defense secretary. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a remarkable team that that really understands that the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East is not like Switzerland and Austria, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like two nice, friendly neighbors that don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Hoosis are still a big challenge for Israel

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<v Speaker 1>in this seven front war that you say you're fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>and we see that you are fighting and defending the

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<v Speaker 1>Promised Land. And the Huthis, of course are nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>an arm of Iran, just like Hamas, just like Hesbulla,

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<v Speaker 1>just like these other groups that we're doing Iran's bidding

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<v Speaker 1>as proxies. And it is the answer to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the source, I mean, and will that be allowed to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>To get at the Ayatolas and the Mullahs in Iran

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<v Speaker 1>and get this finished once in for roll, David Rubin,

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<v Speaker 1>are you optimistic?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, yes, I'm optimistic. I'm always optimistic. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the arms of the octopus, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to cut off the arms of the octopus. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy a you have to destroy his below. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to destroy the Jutis and you know the Yemen

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<v Speaker 2>Jutis UH as well, the terrorist organization which you know

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<v Speaker 2>masquerades as the Palestinian authority, and you know it is

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<v Speaker 2>recognized by the UN as an independent country, even though

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<v Speaker 2>there are anything but them. They never have been. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they they're all terrorists and they and they

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<v Speaker 2>all need to be cut down. But again, those are

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<v Speaker 2>the arms of the octopus. The head of the octopus

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<v Speaker 2>is Iran, and and yes, Israel is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to confront Iran and confront them militarily. Hopefully it'll happen

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<v Speaker 2>very soon. It seems to me like everything is on

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<v Speaker 2>hold until Trump comes in. It seems to be the

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<v Speaker 2>approach of Israel's Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. I know he's in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with Trump and hopefully there will be good coordination

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<v Speaker 2>and and the head of the octopus will be will

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<v Speaker 2>be chopped off.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting to see that Cutter asked Kamas to

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<v Speaker 1>not so politely leave after Trump's win in November. That

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<v Speaker 1>was that was a good sign of things to come,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, it was something that had to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They you know, everyone's trying to make a little gesture

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<v Speaker 2>to Trump, and even those who are not friendly to

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<v Speaker 2>the American way and are not friendly to American values,

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<v Speaker 2>like like a country like Katar.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you know, these are people who identify with with

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim brotherhood, with with all of the radical Muslims of

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. So I don't think we can trust them,

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<v Speaker 2>and frankly, I don't think we could even trust the Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the bottom line is that Israel can only

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<v Speaker 2>trust God and ourselves. And we're you know, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>with the good alliance with the United States, and I

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<v Speaker 2>as we discussed earlier, I expect the Trump administration to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good friend of Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a caller last Friday, David talking to David

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<v Speaker 1>Rubin from the Shiloh Children's Israel Children's Fund. It's Israel

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<v Speaker 1>Children dot org if you'd like to know more, and

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<v Speaker 1>David had the caller said in the discussion, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how we got there. He said, I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>am for the Jewish people, but I'm a guesst Zionist.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I did. I looked up Zionism

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<v Speaker 1>and you hear that term thrown all around by these

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<v Speaker 1>pro Hamas protesters, and the Zionists must go and the

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<v Speaker 1>Zionists must die. Zionism is a political and religious movement

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<v Speaker 1>that supports the creation of a Jewish state in Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and the concentration of Jews in the region. Zionists believe

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<v Speaker 1>that all Jews are one nation, that the only solution

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<v Speaker 1>to anti Semitism is to establish a Jewish state in

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<v Speaker 1>what is called Palestine. I see nothing wrong with Zionism

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe that Israel is for Jews. Before it

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<v Speaker 1>was established as the Jewish state after World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Holy Land for two thousand years that

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<v Speaker 1>God gave to the Jewish people. What's what's wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>the term Zionism and why is it misused and mischaracterized

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<v Speaker 1>the way it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because those are those are the people, as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know say, I'm before that, I'm more of the Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm against Zionists, and it's like it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're also against the They're also against the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you you open up your Bible, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all about God's relationship with the Jewish people, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish people have chosen to be kingdom of priests and

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<v Speaker 2>holy nation that we're supposed to be moral leaders in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Moral leadership doesn't mean allowing yourself to be destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, you know, you have to take all that

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<v Speaker 2>with a slight grain of salt because we're because we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about haters of Israel. Now. The only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>to them by God. And that's Israel. That's Israel, that's Zionism,

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<v Speaker 2>and Zionism is the national the national movement of the

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<v Speaker 2>people of Israel who were exiled from the Land of

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<v Speaker 2>Israel two thousand years ago by the Romans. The Romans

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<v Speaker 2>renamed Israel and Judea, which were the Jewish names. They

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<v Speaker 2>the word Philistines. That's what the history, the objective facts

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon and their kingdoms, that those were Jewish kingdoms, those

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<v Speaker 2>We scattered around the world for two thousand years. We

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, and the Arab nations that surround us

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<v Speaker 2>and have seven hundred times a land mass, then Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're not too happy about it. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, could they believe that only Muslims should be

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of caliphate like iss wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing David, that's that's gonna be. That's the dichotomy there is,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you are peaceful and you obey the laws

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel, you can be a Muslim and live in Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a Christian and live in Israel. You

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<v Speaker 2>But if you are only that, you could even be

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's that that is Israel. Israel is a free country,

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<v Speaker 2>a democratic country, and we're we're the only one in

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're here with thriving and thank God, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to thrive even though we're we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have these these wars hoisted upon us

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<v Speaker 1>We wish you well, sir. We were running short on time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention again the Israel Children's Fund. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel Children's dot Org is at the exact address. What's

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<v Speaker 2>Israel, Yes, yes, Israel Children dot Org. All right, just

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<v Speaker 2>those two words, Israel Children dot org and people can

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<v Speaker 2>find out about our programs for the terror victim children

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<v Speaker 2>here in Israel at Israel Children dot Org.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and God bless you.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year, thank you, Happy New Year to you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, David Reuben, as we begin this Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>Show the Monday before the ball drops, Dave Hatter with

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Salt Typhoon telecom hack by the Communist

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Party. We couldn't reach Dave Hatter for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>We were calling and his phone wasn't ringing. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>hate that when that happens? Gary jeff In for Willy

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bill Cunningham Show on this Monday before the

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<v Speaker 1>year is up. So we decided we'd ask what is

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<v Speaker 1>up with our tech guy, Dave Hatter? And here he is, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Hatter, what's going on in Happy new year?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Gary Jeff, Happy new to you and all your listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I don't know if my lead line bunker

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<v Speaker 4>Typhoon guys got me or what. But yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Yeah, those things a trifle case, Garry Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Salt Typhoon, the US has added a ninth

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<v Speaker 1>telecom lump company to the list of targets. First and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this salt typhoon, Dave? And why should I care?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I hate these names. You know, when you talk to

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<v Speaker 4>cybersecurity people and particularly the government, they've defined a whole

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<v Speaker 4>category of cyber attackers as advanced persistent press. These are

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<v Speaker 4>generally nation state actors that have essentially unlimited money, unlimited expertise,

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<v Speaker 4>unlimited time to hack. Right in the Big four are

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<v Speaker 4>China and Russia around in North Korea. That's not to

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<v Speaker 4>say there aren't others out there. But you know, those

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<v Speaker 4>people see those as the real enemies. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>China is by far the biggest enemy because they have

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<v Speaker 4>the most resources. And you need to look no further

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<v Speaker 4>than the fact that virtually every new military equipment they

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<v Speaker 4>make seems to look exactly like ours. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that's any coincidence. You know, they're hacking American companies

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<v Speaker 4>and they're stealing data. And when people say I have

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to hide, I don't, you know, I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 4>about this. Well, that's part of it, right. They're stealing

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<v Speaker 4>trade secrets, they're stealing military secrets, They're stealing anything and

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<v Speaker 4>everything they can because why would you want to invest

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<v Speaker 4>in a new drug or a new plane or a

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<v Speaker 4>new fill in the blank areas? Yet you can just

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<v Speaker 4>steal the information you need from us. Instead of billions

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars and you know, maybe dozens of years to

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<v Speaker 4>come up with some new things, they just steal it

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<v Speaker 4>from us. So Salt TI Food is one of these

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<v Speaker 4>crazy names they come up with, these off the wall names.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know why or how to explain it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's an advanced persistem threat hacker that has a

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<v Speaker 4>parent infiltrated now at least nine major telecom that works,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, think of people like Verizon, T Mobile, AT

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<v Speaker 4>and T and uh. You know, it's it's really disturbing

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<v Speaker 4>to me as more and more information about this comes out.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a great headline over the past

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days that basically you have the federal government

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<v Speaker 4>basically just trying to point the finger at people on

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<v Speaker 4>this while this continues. They've come out and said, you

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<v Speaker 4>know that you should use encrypted apps. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>no longer good enough to just send a text to

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<v Speaker 4>someone unless you have intod encryption. You're using an app

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<v Speaker 4>like Signal because essentially did it as infiltration, they're able

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<v Speaker 4>to suck up everything that's traversing these telecom that works,

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<v Speaker 4>which is basically everything now. So it's a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I've got my phone and I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>text you, then somebody who has infiltrated my provider can

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<v Speaker 1>get whatever I'm texting you instantly, right, Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling.

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<v Speaker 4>You into encryption, That's what I'm telling you. I'll send me.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not using encryption. So like if you have an

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<v Speaker 4>Apple phone, then I have an Apple phone. If you

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<v Speaker 4>Those messages are encrypted into end, but if you send

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<v Speaker 4>a message to some say an Android user, it may

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<v Speaker 4>or may not be encrypted. Most likely won't be, especially

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<v Speaker 4>if they're on an older phone. And that's where they've

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<v Speaker 4>recommended that people switch to apps like Signal, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think also is quite interesting and ironic ary Jeff, because

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<v Speaker 4>you may recall, I know you and I've talked about

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<v Speaker 4>it before, how our government is constantly saying, oh, encryption

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<v Speaker 4>is bad. We like backdoors, you know, we want to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to suck up all your communications. And now

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<v Speaker 4>they've suddenly realized, wait a minute, they haven't have said this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is me paraphrasing, but maybe backdoors are bad. That

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<v Speaker 4>seems to be how they got into this telecom network,

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<v Speaker 4>and that indo end encryption is good because of course

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<v Speaker 4>now their stuff is being sucked up as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Signal is a good choice. It's an end to end

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<v Speaker 4>encrypted app. But the problem is then you've got to

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<v Speaker 4>add me to Signal. It creates friction, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a pain. But until we get a better handle on

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<v Speaker 4>this and understand what's really happening, this is a serious

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<v Speaker 4>problem in theory, any kind of communication that was not

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<v Speaker 4>into encrypted, any your bank information, any anything you've done

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<v Speaker 4>that's reversed this one of these networks theoretically has been

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, you either need to go back to my

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<v Speaker 1>never call them. Only if you've got an iPhone, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the good list. You got an iPhone, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the good You got a flip phone, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a Google phone, I'm not even gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you again, and and I will just dismiss your

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<v Speaker 1>text as junk and block you forever. Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too drastic.

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<v Speaker 4>It might be a little too drastic. And the voice

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of in a separate realm, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>typically that wouldn't be into end encrypted adviceory using one

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<v Speaker 4>of these end to end encrypted apps. So this this

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<v Speaker 4>bear's watching you know. Now we've got a ninth company

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<v Speaker 4>that's been added, but only after they put out guidelines

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<v Speaker 4>to help these companies determine, you know, these are the

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<v Speaker 4>these are the indicators of compromise to look for to

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<v Speaker 4>determine that you have been infiltrated. And you know this

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<v Speaker 4>has now been weeks, if not months. It's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really pretty scary considering that everything is digital now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>think about it, Cary, Jeff, what do you not do

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<v Speaker 4>in some sort of digital way, whether it's a phone,

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<v Speaker 4>it's with a computer. Forget the particular mechanism, but you

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know, Dave Patter that you have had some issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of issues with any Chinese held company,

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<v Speaker 1>including TikTok, which is I guess owned by Byte Dance.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, Donald Trump has just in the last week

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok band that's supposed to take an effect at the

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<v Speaker 1>first of this coming year, and he has asked them

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<v Speaker 1>to reconsider that legislation that was signed under Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and the Congress that is leaving. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know where you come down on that, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not a fan of government regulation or the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the appearance of regulating free speech and free

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise and the like. But at the same time you

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<v Speaker 1>were very distrustful, as anyone should be, of the communist

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you asked an interesting question. Yes, I have been

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<v Speaker 4>warning people about TikTok and any sort of Chinese controlled

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<v Speaker 4>application as a reminder, and I've got all this linked

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<v Speaker 4>if you just looked me up on LinkedIn. I just

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<v Speaker 4>using Kamu and other Chinese controlled apps for shopping, And

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<v Speaker 4>have a law. The Hill did a nice piece on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a linked in there about how in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one they passed the law in China and it

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<v Speaker 4>basically mandates that any company that is a Chinese company

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<v Speaker 4>must turn over any data the Chinese Communist Party wants

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<v Speaker 4>any time they want it. So this this again, this

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<v Speaker 4>is all well documented, right, So, whether it's TikTok or

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<v Speaker 4>Tamu or fill in the blank, they have to turn

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<v Speaker 4>over any information that is requested of them. These apps

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<v Speaker 4>are all incredibly aggressive in the data they want to

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<v Speaker 4>I encourage people go to the Apple app store and

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<v Speaker 4>look at the privacy label for TikTok. It is trying

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<v Speaker 4>to collect anything and everything that it can from their phone,

422
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<v Speaker 4>stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with you watching

423
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<v Speaker 4>some stupid video online. Same thing with shopping on Tamu.

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<v Speaker 4>It's collecting all kinds of information that really has nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with the shopping experience, because that data is

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<v Speaker 4>valuable in and of itself, both for monetization purposes, but

427
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<v Speaker 4>it's also useful for you know, mind control, propaganda persuasion purposes,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the real knock on TikTok in my point.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me just give you a couple of headlines

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<v Speaker 4>in the last few days. It's a great segue off

431
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<v Speaker 4>the fact that, you know, our own government says that

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<v Speaker 4>the Chinese Communist Party has hacked our teletoon networks. So

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<v Speaker 4>here's a headline from Recorded Future breaking the cycle Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>Communist Party propaganda infrastructure rapidly expands, so there's one for you.

435
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<v Speaker 4>And then from Washington Times, Chinese communists military writings revealed

436
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<v Speaker 4>plans for strategic influence operations throughout or through TikTok, So

437
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<v Speaker 4>this isn't me just making this stuff up, Gary Jeff.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite the fact that I have been warning about it

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time, more and more people are getting

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<v Speaker 4>wise to this. So I'm obviously really disappointed of the

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<v Speaker 4>position that President Trump has taken on this. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's wrong. The data collection is bad, it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm concerned about that. But I'm much more concerned about

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that as they build in more granular and

445
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 4>detailed profile about you, and they can use their heating

446
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 4>feature well documented by Forbes, where they use TikTok to

447
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<v Speaker 4>promote pro Chinese narratives and anti you know, and repress

448
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<v Speaker 4>anything that might be anti CCT. You know. Here again

449
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<v Speaker 4>Washington Times, this story is this. In the past few days,

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese communists military writing revealed plans for strategic influence operations

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<v Speaker 4>through TikTok. You know, they're using it as it Imagine,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Jeff, imagine if you could step back until let's

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<v Speaker 4>say nineteen sixty two, You're in the height of the

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<v Speaker 4>Cold War. Do you think the United States would allow

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<v Speaker 4>Russians to put a device into your house that could

456
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<v Speaker 4>listen to you and could send you Soviet propaganda and

457
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<v Speaker 4>capture all of your most intimate details and everywhere you

458
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<v Speaker 4>go and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing probably not, Dave, you'd hope not.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, you hope not right, And you know this, this

461
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<v Speaker 4>is capturing more Again, don't take my word for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look at the Apple privacy label for TikTok go

463
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<v Speaker 4>see what people who are in the know are warning

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<v Speaker 4>about this. So, yeah, it's very disappointing to me. I

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<v Speaker 4>have been for banning TikTok for a long time, not

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<v Speaker 4>so much because of the data collection. Again, it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'll also get Gary Jeff Well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook's doing the same thing. Well, but they're not a

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese company controlled by our adversary who is hacking our

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<v Speaker 4>networks and stealing our most sensitive information. And we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to let them put a tool in your pocket to

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<v Speaker 4>persuade you and propagandize you. It's it's not So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent for banning TikTok okay, and I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 4>President company the light for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all right, so I got the answer finally that

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for. Now we've talked about the communist

477
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<v Speaker 1>Chinese who's worse, the communist Chinese Party and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do to infiltrate every every asset of Facet

479
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<v Speaker 1>of Our Lives or Chrome Google Chrome, Google will start

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<v Speaker 1>tracking all of your devices in about two months, in

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<v Speaker 1>about eight weeks, all every device. How do they do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And what what should you do to keep them from

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<v Speaker 1>tracking your devices?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Where'd you brought this?

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<v Speaker 1>Call Hillary Clinton? Maybe she can smash it with some

486
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<v Speaker 1>hammers and stuff. Anyway, God, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I have my issues with Google as well,

488
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<v Speaker 4>primarily because you are not their customer, you are their product.

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<v Speaker 4>And despite them, you know, constantly painting this picture of

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<v Speaker 4>their being privacy friendly, then you see this sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know there's been some noise and some possible

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<v Speaker 4>action that Chrome, so Chrome is Google's web browser, would

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<v Speaker 4>be a forced divestiture and they would have to spin

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<v Speaker 4>it off. So when you use the Google search engine,

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<v Speaker 4>Google dot com and you want to search for something,

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<v Speaker 4>you might be using the Safari browser on your iOS phone.

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<v Speaker 4>You might be using the A browser on or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Edge browser for Microsoft on a Windows PC. But

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<v Speaker 4>most people use Chrome, right, which is a web browser.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just trying to make this distinction because a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people seemed confused by the idea of a

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<v Speaker 4>web browser versus a website. So Google dot com the

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<v Speaker 4>search engine is a website. Any browser can can can

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<v Speaker 4>be used to access it's Chrome is Google's browser, right,

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<v Speaker 4>It's by far the most popular browser, That's what most

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<v Speaker 4>people use. There's this possibility that Google will be forced

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<v Speaker 4>to spin it off. We'll see where that goes. But

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<v Speaker 4>if they did, then they would potentially lose a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of information that they used to track you across the Internet.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus they if you read through that article in Forbes

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<v Speaker 4>about this, they point out that, you know, people's habits

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<v Speaker 4>for using the Internet have changed. Not everyone is on

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<v Speaker 4>a full blown computer anymore. Many people are on a phone,

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<v Speaker 4>people are on TVs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is connected now, for better or worse, mostly worse

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion. But they want all that data rights.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one thing to know what you did from your

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<v Speaker 4>phone and where you went with your phone. It's another

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<v Speaker 4>thing to know what you're watching on TV or where

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<v Speaker 4>you went with your car and what you did in

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<v Speaker 4>your car. And Chrome can only give them the tracking through.

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<v Speaker 4>Chrome can only capture so much of that, and so

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<v Speaker 4>they're talking about things like browser fingerprinting or just this

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<v Speaker 4>fingerprinting is the idea that rather than use a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of cookies and to track you, each device essentially has

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<v Speaker 4>its own unique signal, and if they can capture that

528
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<v Speaker 4>fingerprint right, then they can track you potentially across multiple devices.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter whether they end Chrome anymore. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>matter whether you have cookies or not. It's a unique

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<v Speaker 4>way to track you. It's more difficult to disable, it's

532
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<v Speaker 4>more difficult to even know that it's being used, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where they're trying to go. So yeah, as a

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<v Speaker 4>general rule of thumb, my advice to people is find

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<v Speaker 4>privacy and security friendly products and avoid anything from Google

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<v Speaker 4>very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Phishing attacks doubled this year of twenty twenty four, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it getting any better next year, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Gary, Jeff? I think for all the reasons we

540
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<v Speaker 4>just discussed, right, more people are online, more people are

541
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<v Speaker 4>you know, sending texts, sending emails, social media, you name it.

542
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<v Speaker 4>Everything is digital now. And you know, any report you

543
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 4>look at from any source will generally tell you fiber

544
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 4>attacks are on the rise. Phishing is a big part

545
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<v Speaker 4>of it because it's attacking someone's device, trying to find

546
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>a vulnerable piece of software or something and exploit that

547
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 4>takes a much higher level of skill than it does

548
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<v Speaker 4>to send some sort of phishing email or text that

549
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 4>looks realistic to the naked eye and then tells you

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<v Speaker 4>there's some sort of crisis and you have to click

551
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 4>on this thing to solve it. Right, So it's easy

552
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 4>and cheap to send phishing attacks out at scale. The

553
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 4>bad guys keep getting better and better at leveraging tools

554
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 4>like catchypt to improve the quality of those emails and

555
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 4>texts so they look more realistic. Use all this leaked

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<v Speaker 4>and skull and data about you to send information in

557
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<v Speaker 4>there that makes you think it's legit. So no, I

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<v Speaker 4>think you're absolutely right. Sadly, I don't think you're going

559
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<v Speaker 4>to see any decline in this anytime in the near

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<v Speaker 4>future because it's it's cheap and it's effective. Right, They're

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<v Speaker 4>making enormous amounts of money off this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly, well, is it something that we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be vigilant about as consumers, as the average person, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much government can do. There's only so

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<v Speaker 1>much I want the government to do. So you really,

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to defend yourself and your own devices

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<v Speaker 1>and your family's devices, and education is the number one

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<v Speaker 1>tool you can use to do that, I believe, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's good to have people like you on

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<v Speaker 1>the air getting the word out saying, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't click on that, don't don't you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead, You're You're absolutely right here, Jeff. Education and awareness,

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<v Speaker 4>if not the single most important thing, are certainly tied

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<v Speaker 4>because you can do all kinds of technology at this

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<v Speaker 4>but they continuously evolve their tactics, right, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you can spend money on antivirus and all kinds of stuff,

577
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, businesses depth that we do that. Don't

578
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 4>misunderstand what I'm saying here, but a big part of it,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you're an employee in a business or you're just

580
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<v Speaker 4>an individual out there that wants to protect your assets, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>understanding the kinds of a tax. You know, QR codes

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<v Speaker 4>Scanning random QR codes can lead to disaster because you

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<v Speaker 4>can't look at one and know whether it's legit or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's an example of how they constantly change their tactics.

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<v Speaker 4>They go where people are. They use social engineering to

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<v Speaker 4>catch you up guards. So being aware of that and

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<v Speaker 4>being skeptical, stopping taking a breath, go out of band

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00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 4>to verify things will go a long long way towards

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<v Speaker 4>you not eventually getting scammed by one of these things.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, education aware is absolutely critical.

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<v Speaker 1>I know sometimes you join the folks at Local twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen you on here. We watch that in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning because there's nothing else on, and we watch that

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<v Speaker 1>and they often have QR codes. I won't even scan

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<v Speaker 1>the QR codes on my TV screen. I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just very very skeptical. And you figure it's the friendly

597
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>folks from Local twelve. It's Bob and Shelan and all

598
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<v Speaker 1>of them. But now I'm not even scanning their QR codes.

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<v Speaker 1>You've convinced me, Dave, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A bad habit to get into scan you know, it

601
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<v Speaker 4>could to the local news station get hacked and somehow

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<v Speaker 4>of course QR code. Sure, they're certainly not going to

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<v Speaker 4>put malicious stuff out on their own. But like if

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<v Speaker 4>you're walking down the street and you see a QR

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<v Speaker 4>code on the bus stop no or a parking meter.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's well known scams across the country where

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<v Speaker 4>bad guys printed their own QR codes. Put them over

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<v Speaker 4>the legitimate QR code on a parking meter where you say,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you scan it and you go down the

610
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 4>rabbit hole, you know, your money, to steal your id.

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<v Speaker 4>All the above. So again, this isn't some stuff I'm

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<v Speaker 4>making up. It's all easily, you know, easily you could

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<v Speaker 4>go find it. It's documented.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, awaren be careful, be careful tomorrow night. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of dropping balls. I'm sure your aluminum foil hat will

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<v Speaker 1>protect you. Dave Hatter down in the bunker to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Thank you, sir, appreciate your time as

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<v Speaker 1>always a break and then Leishai Lemish from shen Yun

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<v Speaker 1>afternows into another hour of This Bill Cunningham Show for

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<v Speaker 1>December thirtieth, twenty twenty four. Only precious hours left until

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<v Speaker 1>we celebrate a new year. Gary, Jeff Walker and for

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<v Speaker 1>Willie and in this half hour the guy I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to interview, but I get the chance today,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm pumped about that. And something that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>below the radar, I think on a lot of people's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fields of interest, and maybe it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of ties into some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Hatter was saying in the last half hour about

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<v Speaker 1>the influence of the Communist Chinese Party in America. Shen

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<v Speaker 1>Yun is a cultural dance sensation that sweeps this nation

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<v Speaker 1>with performances every year, and they're currently on tour here

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<v Speaker 1>in the States, and we have with this someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>mceed does somewhat over fifteen hundred of the Shenyun performances.

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<v Speaker 1>He joined the company in two thousand and six. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a man born in the United States, earned a bachelor's

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<v Speaker 1>degree in Chinese history from Pomona College as a master's

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<v Speaker 1>in international relations, and it's spent lots of time studying, working,

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<v Speaker 1>conducting research throughout East Asia, authored articles on Chinese current

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<v Speaker 1>affairs published in both English and Chinese. And he's our

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<v Speaker 1>guest now, Leshai Lemish, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW. How are you today, sir, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, thanks for being on. Like I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>may see people may see the posters when Shan Yun

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<v Speaker 1>is coming to a city or community near them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have to work also at a bar and every

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<v Speaker 1>year some cute little Chinese woman will come in and

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<v Speaker 1>ask if they can put up the shen Yun poster

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<v Speaker 1>for their performance here. I always say sure, put it

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<v Speaker 1>right there in the window. And I have never been

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me number one, Leshai, Tell me what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing never having been to a shan Yun performance.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, you can see us in Cincinnati February sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be the easiest THI.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, so I don't have to wait that long.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, just around the corner of Valentine's Day right

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<v Speaker 4>after that. What you're missing? What you've been missing? First

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<v Speaker 4>of all, we have a new show every year, so

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<v Speaker 4>all the shows that we've had before are gone. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a new show this year. I'll be a new show

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<v Speaker 4>next year. So you missed all those but every year

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<v Speaker 4>we have a new production. It's really a celebration of

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand years of Chinese culture. So it's ancient ancient legends, stories,

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<v Speaker 4>folk tales, ethnic dances, and the mainten art form that

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<v Speaker 4>we perform is classical Chinese dance, which is very very

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<v Speaker 4>different from ballet. It's very very athletic in a different way,

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<v Speaker 4>very expressive, and has five thousand years of history. It

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<v Speaker 4>kind of grew in tandem with Chinese martial arts, and

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<v Speaker 4>so the same move that you could see martial arts

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<v Speaker 4>could be used to avoid a spear, let's say, in battle,

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<v Speaker 4>can be used on stage for dance. And it's all

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<v Speaker 4>the flipping and tumbling that we have. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people think it comes from gymnastics, but actually it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>Gymnastics and acrobatics borrowed it from classical Chinese dance with

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese gymnasts about fifty years ago. And there's music, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a live orchestra, there's animated backdrops, there are solo performers

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<v Speaker 4>with the rhu and singers, and then there's the embcs

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<v Speaker 4>like myself. Just go on stage, introduce each piece, give

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of cultural background, then let the real

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<v Speaker 4>artists do to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody dodging spears on stage?

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes, but that's usually planned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, no, I understand. It's not an actual battle

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<v Speaker 1>that you're waging, although.

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<v Speaker 4>We are weaving a battle off stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I'm getting to that. What is so

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to the Communist Chinese Party About five thousand years

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<v Speaker 1>of tradition and culture being exhibited as Chinese around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in the United States. What what's the CCP

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<v Speaker 1>have against this?

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<v Speaker 4>So the few things going on with that. So the

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<v Speaker 4>first thing is the Chinese Communist Party has a history

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<v Speaker 4>about seventy five years in power in China, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>China has five thousand years of history. And when the

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<v Speaker 4>Communist Party came to power, they realized that they were

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<v Speaker 4>a Soviet import. This was not something native to Chinese culture.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, it was antithetical to many things about Chinese culture.

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<v Speaker 4>Chance culture is very spiritual. It believes in repercussions to

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<v Speaker 4>what you do in this lifetime, be it reincarnation or

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<v Speaker 4>seeing your ancestors, or heaven and hell, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>They have that strong belief that goes around comes around,

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<v Speaker 4>and Communism comes in and says, nope, this is all

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<v Speaker 4>it is. It's just materialism, atheism, utilitarianism, this is it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so to be able to do what they needed

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<v Speaker 4>to do, they had to wipe out the traditional culture.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's how you have Mao's campaigns like the Culture Revolution,

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<v Speaker 4>where you're taking monks and nuns and making them marry,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're raising temples to the ground, you're burning artwork,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're making students beat up their teachers and beat

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<v Speaker 4>up their parents. And you couldn't do that if people

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<v Speaker 4>believe there were consequences to what they did, so they

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<v Speaker 4>really have to replace it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the same thing that we have seen in

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<v Speaker 1>our country, Lee Shai, with the protests against Civil War

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<v Speaker 1>statues or the Founders of America and the statues being

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<v Speaker 1>attacked and vandalized and torn down. It's all Marxist and

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<v Speaker 1>Communists in its intent and in its in its origins.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same kind of thing. You've got to erase

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<v Speaker 1>real history and tradition so you can replace it with

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Isn't that the same same kind of Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Uh yeah, I mean, you know principle,

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<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what my Chinese friends are saying, people who

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<v Speaker 4>live through the culture revolution in China, which wasn't that

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<v Speaker 4>long ago in the sixties and seventies, and they say,

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<v Speaker 4>this is exactly the same thing. It's this militant, one

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<v Speaker 4>sided you're either with us or against us. If you

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00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>dare to speak up, we're going to cancel you. That's

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what they went through in a culture revolution. Is thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's scary because it's happening here now and then they

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<v Speaker 4>see how the Chinese Communist Party is kind of supporting

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<v Speaker 4>it behind the scenes, propaganda wise, sometimes financially spies. We're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing all these different things that they're doing. And going

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<v Speaker 4>back to your first question, our performance is about reviving

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<v Speaker 4>traditional Chinese culture. If you see our billboards, it says

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<v Speaker 4>China before Communists. That's what we're performing on stage. And

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<v Speaker 4>so it's these ancient legends and stories, but more importantly

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<v Speaker 4>what's behind them, right, the virtues and the ideals loyalty, courage, integrity, face, compassion,

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<v Speaker 4>these kinds of things. And then the Chinese Communist Party

739
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<v Speaker 4>is terrified of that because Chinese people even see the

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00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 4>show and say, oh yeah, I remember my grandmother used

741
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<v Speaker 4>to tell me about this stuff. This is these are

742
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 4>our real roots, and we found it not in China,

743
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<v Speaker 4>but you know, in Ohio or in New York, or

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<v Speaker 4>in Tokyo or London wherever we're performing. And that's because

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00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 4>you really couldn't do this in China. And so Sanin

746
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 4>was created in New York by elite artists from China

747
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<v Speaker 4>who many of them escaped persecution in China and they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to use production. It's going to be reviving

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<v Speaker 4>traditional Chinese culture. We're also going to show what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>in China today. So of the twenty pieces or so,

751
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 4>the show is about twenty different stories, each about four

752
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 4>or five minutes long, couple pieces showing what's happening in

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00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 4>terms of the tyranny and persecution and encourage and resistance

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<v Speaker 4>to it in China. And the CCP certainly does not

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<v Speaker 4>like that. And then we actually had people from China

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<v Speaker 4>elite artists come out and say this is what we

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<v Speaker 4>want to do, and they left everything behind and risked

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<v Speaker 4>everything to come out and join us. Some of them

759
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 4>didn't make it. Some of our arrests are just trying

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<v Speaker 4>to join us. And so that's the one place we

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<v Speaker 4>can't perform right now is China. So they're very afraid

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<v Speaker 4>of what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>How ironic, the one place you can't perform is is

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually a celebration of what that country's really all

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<v Speaker 1>about without the commies. It's amazing and that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And not only that, so the Chinese embassies and consulates

767
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<v Speaker 4>around the world are doing everything they can't to stop

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<v Speaker 4>us from performing. So in the very beginning when we started,

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<v Speaker 4>this is two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 4>they would write letters to the theaters and say, this is

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<v Speaker 4>an anti China performance, right, the celebration of Chinese culture

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00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 4>is anti China. And if you don't cancel it, you

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<v Speaker 4>will never have a Chinese production performing your theater again,

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<v Speaker 4>and it will be bad for your city's sister city

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<v Speaker 4>relationship with whatever city in China, and US chinnel relations

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00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>will be affected. All these things. And then in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States has had no traction. It actually kind of

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<v Speaker 4>worked for them a little bit in some you know,

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<v Speaker 4>former Soviet Bloc countries and other countries like South Korea,

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<v Speaker 4>but are really really afraid of the CCP. But in

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<v Speaker 4>the US, people are like, what is this, No, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to tell us what we can and cannot

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<v Speaker 4>see in America, and in fact that that actually it's

784
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<v Speaker 4>somewhat like promoting our show. People are like, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 4>go check it out. We don't know what this is.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we had mayors and people like that

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<v Speaker 4>that were getting letters things, do not see the show

788
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<v Speaker 4>if they okay, let's go check it out. And so

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<v Speaker 4>they changed tactics after that, and then what we started

790
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<v Speaker 4>seeing is they would slash our tires on our buses,

791
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<v Speaker 4>and it would do it in such a way that

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00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 4>the tire would not the slate right away, but would

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00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 4>explode at high speeds. Unfortunately, we have security. We found

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<v Speaker 4>these things, but this happened multiple times, often within a

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<v Speaker 4>few days.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you know it's the Communist

797
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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Party doing that?

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<v Speaker 4>Lisha, Well, it's not the ambassador himself out there, that's

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, and they usually hire people like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>two or three steps down. But there's been a re

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<v Speaker 4>wave of arrest of Chinese spies. So all along we've

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<v Speaker 4>been saying, listen, there are people spying on us. We're

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<v Speaker 4>getting death threats, we're getting our email hats, we're getting

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00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 4>people trying to follow us wherever we're going. And we

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<v Speaker 4>had little kind of anecdotal evidence of that here and there.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the last few years, our federal agents and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, various forms of our security systems have found

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<v Speaker 4>these people. And so, for example, there were these two

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<v Speaker 4>guys who were arrested Chinese nationals living in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States who arrested for this scheme where they were trying

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<v Speaker 4>to bribe an IRS agent who was actually an undercover

812
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<v Speaker 4>FBI agent in order to revoke Chinyan Performing Arts as

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<v Speaker 4>nonprofit status and finally was arrested for that because they

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<v Speaker 4>had been tracking him for a while and it eventually

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<v Speaker 4>had this undercover agent posed an IRS agent and they

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<v Speaker 4>got them. And then now there's other people that were

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00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 4>connected to him or being arrested too. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>huge network. And of course it's not just Shenyun, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's military secrets, technological secrets, all this stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think one of the main messages that Shinyn is trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get across is that listen, China is not the CCP,

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<v Speaker 4>and there in fact people in China who are on

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<v Speaker 4>our side. Sometimes they would send people to spy on us.

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<v Speaker 4>This happened I remember in Vancouver and this person came over.

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<v Speaker 4>It was from the Public Security Bureau in China, sent

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<v Speaker 4>a spy on us. And after the show he came

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<v Speaker 4>to one of our security people and said, listen, I

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<v Speaker 4>came here to spy on you, but rash on your side.

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<v Speaker 4>Good job, keep up the good work. When we get

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<v Speaker 4>emails from China all the time saying come perform in China,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait for you to come over here, and then,

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<v Speaker 4>but now they're doing this new tactic, which is trying

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<v Speaker 4>to smear us on social media, trying to get their

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<v Speaker 4>propaganda narratives into mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I see that the New York Times is playing

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<v Speaker 1>along apparently with but the New York Times along For

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who hasn't been paying attention to the Old Gray

838
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Lady or whatever all the news that's fit to print,

839
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<v Speaker 1>anybody knows that the New York Times is an anti

840
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<v Speaker 1>American publication by their editorials and what they put out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not surprised by this. What was the New

842
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<v Speaker 1>York Times been doing to nyun Lisha.

843
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean they're coming out with article after articles,

844
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 4>sometimes several articles in one week, just trying to attack

845
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<v Speaker 4>Chanan from every angle they can think of. And even

846
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<v Speaker 4>they they they even like the latest one is like, oh,

847
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<v Speaker 4>Shanud has made a lot of money. Yeah, it's a

848
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<v Speaker 4>very successful performing arts company. We go, we perform in

849
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<v Speaker 4>front of a million plus people every year, two hundred cities.

850
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<v Speaker 4>We got one hundred ninety four cities this year, you know,

851
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<v Speaker 4>five continents. It's a huge success. You know, theaters are

852
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<v Speaker 4>sold out. I'm sorry, is that is that wrong? In America,

853
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<v Speaker 4>you know. So they're trying all these different things. But

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<v Speaker 4>the overall narrative of the New York Times is eerily

855
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<v Speaker 4>similar to the stuff that the CCP has been using

856
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<v Speaker 4>for propaganda against Chenyun and against the founders of shiny

857
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<v Speaker 4>In the following Bunge practitioners Fellow Bone community for twenty

858
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<v Speaker 4>five years, saying they're anti China, saying that they're weird,

859
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 4>all these different things, you know, and that's it's very troubling,

860
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 4>especially for people. I'm not ethnic Chinese, but the majority

861
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<v Speaker 4>of the performers in the company are who've been in

862
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<v Speaker 4>the company for so long and people who left China,

863
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 4>and they remember what it was like in the nineteen

864
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<v Speaker 4>nineties when they were practicing. Following going one day, they're

865
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<v Speaker 4>just meditating in the park, just happily doing a spiritual practice,

866
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<v Speaker 4>and the next day the CCP says, no, your enemies

867
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<v Speaker 4>of the state, you cannot practice this. If you do,

868
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 4>you're going to go to jail. And then they thought

869
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 4>this is just a big misunderstanding. They would go to

870
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 4>the petition's office and go to the government say you

871
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 4>got it all wrong, very innocently right, because nobody knew

872
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.519
<v Speaker 4>anything about politics back then, and then they would be arrested,

873
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.480
<v Speaker 4>and then their family members would go they'd arrested too,

874
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.440
<v Speaker 4>and before you know, they're own labor camps. And that

875
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 4>was what they faced, a whole machinery of the biggestaship

876
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 4>in history coming after them. And then they fled to

877
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 4>the United States, often with scars, sometimes with family members

878
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 4>who were killed from torture. And then they come here

879
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 4>and they have freedom in America and they create this

880
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 4>amazing performing arts company. It's a huge success from nothing.

881
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 4>It started from absolutely nothing, no government support, no corporate support,

882
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 4>just you know, hard work and talent they built that.

883
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 4>We had one company and now we have touring around

884
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 4>the world simultaneously and now to see, you know, the

885
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 4>New York Times come after us, like what is this China?

886
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<v Speaker 1>Well, should kind of an off track part of the discussion,

887
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<v Speaker 1>But you've done so much study about China and Chinese

888
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>culture and been around the world. Should Americans be concerned

889
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 1>about the tens of thousands military age Chinese men that

890
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>came across our open border during the Biden administration? Is

891
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 1>that is that a call for concern when it comes

892
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to Chinese spies and the other things you mentioned that

893
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>are going on now as you go around the country

894
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<v Speaker 1>with Shan Yun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean what was that number? I saw the

896
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 4>other one hundred and seventy six thousand or something like

897
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 4>that came in. Yeah, and well, they're definitely finding a

898
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of spies. And listen, you know, as a performance

899
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.519
<v Speaker 4>of Chinese culture with Chinese people and Chinese supports and volunteers,

900
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, a lot of wonderful people. But that doesn't

901
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 4>mean that we don't have people here with my intent

902
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 4>in the country trying to do different things. You know

903
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 4>that they're spies across all the different industries and they're

904
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 4>catching who knows a tiny fraction of them. Some of

905
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 4>them are working in you know, governor's offices, in mayor's office.

906
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 4>They're catching these kinds of people too. Some are in

907
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 4>the media. They're they're catching all these different people. And

908
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 4>it's clear that the CCP, and it's very publicly, has

909
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 4>stated what their biggest enemy is, and it's the United

910
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 4>States that they want to overtake, and they fear following

911
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 4>going and they fear Shinyan and they've made this one

912
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 4>of their biggest enemies. That we have internal documents that

913
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 4>they leaked out. It got leaked out from some of

914
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.519
<v Speaker 4>our supporters, like I mentioned over the summer, laying out

915
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.119
<v Speaker 4>their entire strategy, trying to weaponize social media, trying to

916
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 4>use mainstream American media to turn Shinyan, and following going

917
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.599
<v Speaker 4>community against the United States to have like a conflict

918
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 4>creative year, you know, divide and conquer and this. And

919
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<v Speaker 4>then a big reason for that, of course, is they're

920
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 4>geopolitics and what they want to do with Taiwan and

921
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 4>all this other stuff. But there's there's definitely they're definitely

922
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 4>people in our midst that are trying to start up trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I just I'm looking forward and maybe I'll talk

924
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:07.199
<v Speaker 1>my wife into coming to see Shan Yun when they

925
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>were in Cincinnati February fifteenth. I look forward to meeting

926
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you too. It's nice to talk to you. Leshai Lemish,

927
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the MC for Shan Yun. How would you in one sentence,

928
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>how would you sum up Shan Yun in the performance

929
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're about to see here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's an amazing celebration of five thousand years of

931
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 4>Chinese culture. A whole other world you're gonna be transported

932
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 4>to through dance. And music and costumes in animated backdrops,

933
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<v Speaker 4>and a few surprises.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, fantastic, Thanks Leshai. We'll continue to report on

935
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<v Speaker 1>the way on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 5>To be true to ourselves, we must be true to others.

937
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 5>We will not behave in foreign places so as to

938
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 5>valet our rules. And and here at home, well, we

939
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 5>know that the trust which our nation earns is essential

940
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<v Speaker 5>to our strength.

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<v Speaker 6>We've learned from personal experience at poor people the first

942
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<v Speaker 6>of all, people who are often scorned or derogated. Adjust

943
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 6>as intelligent as we are. They're just as ambitious as we.

944
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 6>They are just as hard working as we. They have

945
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 6>family values are just as good as ours. They just

946
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<v Speaker 6>need some help.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh hello, quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm broadcasting right, God, no segment. I think that

949
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 1>you are just as good, just as intelligent, just as beautiful,

950
00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:03.159
<v Speaker 1>just as ambitious, and just as capable as I am.

951
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 1>But you just need some help. As President Carter said

952
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in Always There, Always, that was Christmas Man, everything was

953
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>good you it was fine. I was here and I

954
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 1>was hoping for a Christmas stooge report. But you were

955
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you were, You were gone, baby gone, now baby, now

956
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 1>you had that clause duty. Well, Santa Calt. I mean,

957
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are you going to do? Exactly what

958
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I did? I did remark because I know this and

959
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't talk about it really, but your father,

960
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>your dear father, for many years, was the neighborhood Santa Claus,

961
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.079
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he? That is correct, and you have carried on

962
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 1>this tradition. And I find that so life affirming and

963
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.159
<v Speaker 1>so wonderful that you have followed in your father's footsteps

964
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 1>in that regard. And Sega Clause is now universally loved

965
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>all over the tri State because of that.

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00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 8>He started things off, and God bless him. And you know,

967
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 8>I just continue on the tradition. Air Gary, Jeff, That's

968
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 8>all I do. I know it's very hard touch, it's

969
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 8>hard to do. It's hard touch fun to do. Very

970
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 8>few things that happen around me touch my heart like that.

971
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<v Speaker 8>You know, you see people, you see people out and

972
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 8>this and that, and kids and some kids are scared

973
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 8>to death of him.

974
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Others come up to him like you know that Santa

975
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>is their dad. So it's a have you ever gotten

976
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>up from a second class session with a wet lap segment? No? Okay, good? No,

977
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>at least they controlled themselves while they were in the

978
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>presence of the great. So far, so good, so far,

979
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>so good. What do you got, Seggy?

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<v Speaker 8>All right, yeah, Gary, Jeff, let's see the stooge report

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<v Speaker 1>Four what no, sega. Last Monday was my belated birthday

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<v Speaker 1>party because my birthday was Sunday the twenty second, and

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<v Speaker 1>we celebrated Jim Labarber's birthday because we share a birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>The prof. Right, the prof. But since you weren't here,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't mind. We had to do the

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<v Speaker 1>because it could plug. You just said it right and proud, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and a chorus of people yell, Garry was wonderful. So

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<v Speaker 1>you had a room full of special guests. We had

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00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>special guests in the studio, yes, sir, So let's see.

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<v Speaker 8>Also, we want to thank a Lear's Prime Market for

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<v Speaker 8>their efforts all season long, Gary Jeff for all year long,

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<v Speaker 8>Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits, Winding, Tobacco

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<v Speaker 8>NFL says that the Bengals regular season finale in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 8>Saturday at eight o'clock. The action here on seven hundred WLW,

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<v Speaker 8>and then the NFL says, you know what, if the

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<v Speaker 8>Bengals win, they're gonna have to agonizingly wait to see

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<v Speaker 8>if they make it or not to say it. The

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00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 8>Chiefs and Broncos play Sunday. Dolphins and Jets both play

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<v Speaker 8>Sunday with kickoffs at four twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals may not know until eight or nine o'clock. And

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<v Speaker 1>they got in Slim and noon, and Slim has left

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<v Speaker 1>the building. Assume him.

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<v Speaker 8>Bengals running back Chase Brown mri yesterday high ankle spring

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<v Speaker 8>of course they lose a day with you know how

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<v Speaker 8>how he progresses. They play Saturday instead of Sunday that game.

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<v Speaker 8>But I would think that Chase Brown's a tough dude.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a game. He's gonna be out there. He's a gamer.

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<v Speaker 1>If he can, if he can walk, he will play

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 8>Bengal fans Joe Burrow and t Higgins are up for

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<v Speaker 8>the FedEx Air and Ground Player that we awards this week.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course, Burrow with that unbelievable game four hundred and

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<v Speaker 8>twelve yards passing three touchdowns. Higgins eleven catches one hundred

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<v Speaker 8>and thirty one yards, including the game winner in overtime.

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<v Speaker 8>Go to Bengals dot com slash FedEx to vote through.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Wednesday, let's see more on Bengals line tonight

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<v Speaker 8>six oh five right here on seven hundred WLW Final

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<v Speaker 8>Monday Nighter of the Game, A regular season set regular

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<v Speaker 8>season Monday Nighter Detroit and San Francisco at seven thirty

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<v Speaker 8>Fox Sports thirteen to sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Lions. You know what, I really really was amazed

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<v Speaker 1>at Sequan Sequon Barkley's season two thousand nine yard ninth

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<v Speaker 1>player in NFL history to rush for two thousand yards

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<v Speaker 1>in his season and you know, fifteen games of sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>games so far. Now should there be an asterisk? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>If he broke Eric Dickerson's record, he's one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>one yards behind him. I don't even know if he's

1041
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 1>going to play for the Eagles with since they've clinched

1042
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the NFC East with the action over the weekend. But

1043
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 1>if he played and he broke Eric Dickerson's record, all right,

1044
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>should there be an asterisk? Like because he did a merit?

1045
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 1>He did it in so many games versus seventeen games

1046
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 1>versus sixteen games or that's.

1047
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<v Speaker 8>All up to the National Football League. I don't know,

1048
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 8>but pretty impressive, amend you run for two thousand yards?

1049
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 8>I do every day on this show if somebody's chasing

1050
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 8>college foot Thank you. Congrats to Chuck Martin and the

1051
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 8>Miami RedHawks. They won the Snoop dogg Arizona Ball Saturday.

1052
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 8>They rolled over Colorado State forty three to seventeen. So

1053
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 8>a big one there for the RedHawks. College basketball tonight,

1054
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 8>number sixteen, that's right, you heard it right, sixteen. Cincinnati

1055
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 8>Bearcats open Big twelve play at Kansas State six thirty

1056
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 8>here on seven hundred WLW. I say number sixteen because

1057
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 8>the AP Top twenty five new poll came out, and

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01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.719
<v Speaker 8>uh uh oh, there's that's the wife.

1059
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh oh, I must be in trouble.

1060
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<v Speaker 8>You want me to answer that? No, that's okay. Number

1061
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 8>sixteen Bearcats. They are up to number sixteen and in

1062
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 8>the AP poll of ten and one, and also Defiance

1063
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 8>and Miami. Tonight the RedHawks play Hello, Hello, Denise, So

1064
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:20.440
<v Speaker 8>what are you wearing? I'll have to call her back.

1065
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 8>Why I never bring that phote in here? What I

1066
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.519
<v Speaker 8>was going to say, at least turn turn, turn the

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01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 8>sound off.

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01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do that.

1069
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 8>I apparely I apparely know how to work it. So

1070
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.559
<v Speaker 8>I'll have to call her back. All right, Well, if

1071
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.599
<v Speaker 8>you want to, you can. You can go in and

1072
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 8>do that now on the air. Okay, sure, I'm sure

1073
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.079
<v Speaker 8>I did something wrong. And also in the AP Kentucky

1074
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.559
<v Speaker 8>is tenth this week, so they stay number ten this week.

1075
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 1>P doue a number twenty. This is the best bear

1076
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Cats basketball team we've seen in a little while. Amen

1077
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to that.

1078
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 8>See what happened the night against k State, and see

1079
01:02:58.760 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 8>you can get a good start.

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<v Speaker 1>For the We we're seven and eleven last year in

1081
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve, and they're an inaugural season, so we're

1082
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a little different this year, looking for improvement. Probably a

1083
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:11.599
<v Speaker 1>little different this year with a team that Wes Miller's

1084
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 1>got Well segment. Thank you for your love and your lust,

1085
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.599
<v Speaker 1>get us out dot Duge Report, Sir Gary.

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01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.559
<v Speaker 8>Jeff on this New Year's eveve everybody's take care and

1087
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty four is almost over and now looking toward

1088
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:27.079
<v Speaker 8>them twenty twenty five. We leave you with the immortal

1089
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:29.719
<v Speaker 8>words of the Stood Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, short and sweet. There you go. You turn

1091
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.920
<v Speaker 1>your phone off. I don't know, I don't know how

1092
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it. We have a special guest, the wild Man,

1093
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 1>coming up next on seven hundred WLW. Yeah. On the

1094
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 1>back side of another bingals victory, the wild Thing himself

1095
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on the telephone, Old Man Walker joins us the sports

1096
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>commando for a few moments. Wild Man, Yeah, you've been

1097
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you've been making me hang on forever from Babbling's say.

1098
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:11.519
<v Speaker 7>Going on and on, come on man.

1099
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, he had to get his sports out of the way,

1100
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 1>wild Man. When we just took care, we took care

1101
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Stooge report stuff, which is I'm.

1102
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.920
<v Speaker 7>Gonna have done what he did in in five minutes.

1103
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, Well, it's all about it's all about

1104
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 1>filling the time with content. Wild Man, Sometimes you gotta

1105
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:31.079
<v Speaker 1>stretch it out. Baby. So were you were you bathing

1106
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.360
<v Speaker 1>in nacho cheese? After the Bengals victory.

1107
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 9>On Well, I was nervous like everybody yells, especially after

1108
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 9>the blunder the blunders of the clock management by Zach Taylor.

1109
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:48.039
<v Speaker 9>But Joe Burrow, without a doubt, is the greatest quarterback

1110
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 9>in Bengal's history bar none. The things that guy can do,

1111
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:54.239
<v Speaker 9>and with t Higgins and Jamar Chase as his two

1112
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.480
<v Speaker 9>wide receivers, man that offense, there's no telling what they

1113
01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 9>can do. And they gotta they gotta recite t Higgins.

1114
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 9>I know, you know what I'm gonna tell you right now.

1115
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 9>They've got to resign t Higgins because Joe has already

1116
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 9>made you know, has already made mention that they got

1117
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:07.400
<v Speaker 9>to do it.

1118
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:08.599
<v Speaker 1>And I think Joe will.

1119
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 9>Restructure his contract because a lot of a lot of

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01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.400
<v Speaker 9>quarterbacks are high paid athletes, will do that in order

1121
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 9>to uh, you know, to get other players in the

1122
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 9>Remember Ken Griffy Junior gave the Reds a discount for

1123
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 9>it to come here. The Reds did that. So t

1124
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 9>Higgins is going to resign. We know Jamar Chase is

1125
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:29.599
<v Speaker 9>going to be signed, but that all the scenarios that

1126
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.360
<v Speaker 9>we're talking about. Gary Jeff so and so has to lose.

1127
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 9>Number one, the Bengals have to beat the Steelers. But

1128
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 9>here's the problem. The Ravens play before the Steelers. If

1129
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 9>the Ravens win, will Mike Tomlin play all his guys

1130
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 9>the whole game?

1131
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Think about it?

1132
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.519
<v Speaker 7>Because they're already in the playoffs anyway.

1133
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 1>What's the same scenario. Then, it's the same scenario the

1134
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Bengals are facing with the teams that have to lose

1135
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 1>in order for them to make You know, does Kansas

1136
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Does Kansas City? Kansas City play Patrick Mahomes and Pacheco

1137
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest the Travis Kelcey do they play

1138
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 1>their frontline characters since they've already cinched up everything in

1139
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the AFC West.

1140
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Well, Carson West.

1141
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:19.360
<v Speaker 9>Carson Wentz is not a is not the quarterback that

1142
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 9>the Cleveland Browns do on the field yesterday. Carson Wentz

1143
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 9>is a good quarterback. I told you that I don't

1144
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:26.239
<v Speaker 9>think the Chiefs are gonna lay down. I don't think

1145
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 9>they will lay down. They may, you know, rest a

1146
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 9>couple of guys, But if you sit around for two

1147
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.760
<v Speaker 9>weeks and don't play, you get rusty.

1148
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 7>You get rusty. Players are creatures of habits.

1149
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:37.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1150
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 9>Some guys of course need some rest. But I don't

1151
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 9>look for the Chiefs. But the thing is, if the

1152
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:45.159
<v Speaker 9>Ravens win their game over the Browns, like like the

1153
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:48.000
<v Speaker 9>Browns are gonna upset them, the Ravens are in. They

1154
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 9>win the division and the Steelers are in. So why

1155
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.280
<v Speaker 9>should the Steelers really risk some injuries to some of

1156
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:53.840
<v Speaker 9>their guys.

1157
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they're gonna play some guys. I'm just saying

1158
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 7>throwing that out there.

1159
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 9>Then the Bengals have to wait on the New York

1160
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.239
<v Speaker 9>Jets playing the Miami Dolphins in New York. I don't

1161
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 9>know what the weather report is, Gary Jeff.

1162
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it's where the Jets, where the hometown Jets will

1163
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:11.239
<v Speaker 1>be roundly booed by the fans for the is they

1164
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.639
<v Speaker 1>deservedly should for the terrible season that they put out

1165
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 1>on the field. Aaron Rodgers is way too old to

1166
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.199
<v Speaker 1>even step onto an NFL turf.

1167
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 7>Aaron Rodgers has not had that bad of a year.

1168
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:24.079
<v Speaker 7>Breese Hall, they made a big deal.

1169
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:28.119
<v Speaker 1>He can't remove. He's a statue wild man. They're gonna

1170
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 1>eat him for lunch, not protecting him more than damn.

1171
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Miami is gonna eat the Jets for lunch. So you

1172
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.079
<v Speaker 1>can just forget about a Bengals win.

1173
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:40.480
<v Speaker 9>And Los Breestall hasn't done crap for the Jets this year,

1174
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 9>So don't lay it all on Aaron Rodgers. Don't lay

1175
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.960
<v Speaker 9>it on Aaron Rodgers. It's not all Aaron Rodgers. Look

1176
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 9>at his numbers. His numbers are not that bad. But okay,

1177
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:50.800
<v Speaker 9>you're gonna have that game, and of course you got

1178
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.760
<v Speaker 9>the Chiefs and the Broncos, and we're gonna have to

1179
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 9>wait to see at what happens there.

1180
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 1>The quarterback, the quarterback that's been sacked more than Joe

1181
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Burrow this year is playing for the New York Jets

1182
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 1>because he cannot move, and their line isn't worth a

1183
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.960
<v Speaker 1>dam right, he can't move isn't worth a damn. He

1184
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:08.719
<v Speaker 1>can't move.

1185
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 9>He's still got some good receivers, but they don't have

1186
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:15.280
<v Speaker 9>no run in attack. Gary Jeff, where you've been, Brice Hall,

1187
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.640
<v Speaker 9>they made a big deal all season long, all these

1188
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 9>fantasy football experts, Breese Hall, Breese Hall, Briestall hasn't done crap,

1189
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 9>hasn't done crap. He's been a total disappointment. And that's

1190
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 9>one of the problems with their offense.

1191
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to it. Let's get back to the

1192
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Bengals in their season. Is Joe Burrow a better quarterback

1193
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 1>than Josh Allen.

1194
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:38.520
<v Speaker 7>I think they're right. I think they're head to head.

1195
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Speaker 7>I think they're right.

1196
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You're a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes.

1197
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.800
<v Speaker 9>I think Mahomes has got him just by a nose

1198
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.840
<v Speaker 9>and and a couple of and a few.

1199
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Alright, Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson.

1200
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 9>I think about Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow tied tied.

1201
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 7>Lamar can do things, but Joe can do things.

1202
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Kant should, Joe should? Joe receives should, Joe receive

1203
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of consideration for m VP, even even the Bengals.

1204
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.720
<v Speaker 9>Oh, Absolutely, considering the line that he's had this year,

1205
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 9>how many times he's been sacked. Absolutely, But if I

1206
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 9>had a vote, I'm sorry, I gotta go with Josh Allen.

1207
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:25.600
<v Speaker 9>I got to go with Josh Allen. He's been a supert.

1208
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:28.159
<v Speaker 9>He's something else.

1209
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:28.760
<v Speaker 1>He really is.

1210
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 7>Now, can't Buffalo break the jinks? Who knows? We'll find out.

1211
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, Buffalo's akin to going to Super Bowls

1212
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and losing them, just like the Bengals.

1213
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, four of them, four straight years, Just.

1214
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Like the Minnesota Vikings who lost four Super Bowls back

1215
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in the day, in the in the era of the

1216
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Purple People leaders in fran Tarkington. Uh. But it's it's

1217
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:55.840
<v Speaker 1>all down to the Bengals beating the Steelers on Saturday Night.

1218
01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:57.920
<v Speaker 1>That has to happen before any of the rest.

1219
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 9>So exact, Damondo's Arnold, Sam Arnold giving up for dead

1220
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 9>by the Jets and goes to Minnesota.

1221
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:06.199
<v Speaker 7>He could run for mayor and win in the landslide.

1222
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, have you have you met the mayor of Minneapolis?

1223
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:14.159
<v Speaker 1>You have you seen that turkey too? No, no, you

1224
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to know that guy. All right, wild man,

1225
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 1>we will watch with the rest of the world, and

1226
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:23.159
<v Speaker 1>we will see what happens. The Bengals hanging on by

1227
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a thread.

1228
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.039
<v Speaker 9>Feel good about the Bengals beatnes Steelers, I really do.

1229
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.560
<v Speaker 7>I feel about Steelers. Got to be shake shaken a

1230
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:29.119
<v Speaker 7>little bit.

1231
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 9>With the offense the points that Bengals be able to

1232
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:32.960
<v Speaker 9>put up on the board the last four weeks. But

1233
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:35.199
<v Speaker 9>like you said, and you wear that line out, we'll

1234
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:36.119
<v Speaker 9>see what happens.

1235
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:37.800
<v Speaker 7>I'll talk to you next.

1236
01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Year, all right, wild Man, take care, Dennis Wildman Walker,

1237
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Gary Jeff In for Willie and the Bill Cunningham Show.

1238
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Wiliford from Gun Owners of America. Our next guest,

1239
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the Great American Bill Cunningham, is getting a much deserved

1240
01:10:55.079 --> 01:11:00.319
<v Speaker 1>rest somewhere. He is laying down in his folding lawn

1241
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.880
<v Speaker 1>chair under his sun lamp, with cucumber slices over his eyes,

1242
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 1>drinking a tall, frosty non alcoholic smoothie and saying, damn,

1243
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was working, but everybody needs a break, Bill,

1244
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 1>and thus you've got me again today, Gary jeff Walker

1245
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:23.119
<v Speaker 1>in for Willie on this Monday before the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to be with you. I'm going to flash back

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<v Speaker 1>now to November of twenty seventeen and the small community

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01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of Sutherland Springs, Texas, a church Sunday morning, shots fired

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<v Speaker 1>inside that church at the time, the worst mass shooting

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01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in Texas history. A place where they respect and allow

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01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>our Second Amendment rights, and because of that a good

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01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:58.000
<v Speaker 1>guy with the gun was able to stop the carnage?

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<v Speaker 1>Was I able to stop the bad guy with the

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01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:06.479
<v Speaker 1>gun who was on his way to commit more murder

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<v Speaker 1>in Mayhem? But a man named Stephen Williford, the hero

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, wasn't going to allow this guy to

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<v Speaker 1>get away, and he didn't. And I remember seeing him

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01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:26.119
<v Speaker 1>on the news and I thought to myself, I want

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01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to shake that man's hand. Someday. I want to meet

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01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that guy, the good guy with the gun from Gun

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<v Speaker 1>Owners of America. Stephen Williford joins us now on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. Stephen, Happy New Year. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>had a good Christmas. How are you?

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<v Speaker 10>I had an excellent Christmas and I'm doing great. How

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01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:46.479
<v Speaker 10>are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>GOODA take us all back to that day and what transpired,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get to what's ahead for twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 11>Well.

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<v Speaker 10>So the guy started shooting through the walls and windows.

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<v Speaker 11>Of your gear own church and murdering people.

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<v Speaker 1>So where were you?

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<v Speaker 11>I was at home.

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<v Speaker 10>I was actually in my bedroom relaxing, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 10>have shoes on even and he started shooting through the

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01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:18.239
<v Speaker 10>walls and windows, and the people in church first thought

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01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:22.239
<v Speaker 10>it was fireworks and somebody was popping fireworks, and then

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01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 10>the light fixtures overhead started bursting and glass started flying

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01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:31.119
<v Speaker 10>and people started falling, and they realized it was a shooting,

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01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 10>and they thought it was a drive by and he

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01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:38.039
<v Speaker 10>would be gone well. Instead he circled through three sides

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01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:41.399
<v Speaker 10>of the building, shooting through the walls and windows, and

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01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.800
<v Speaker 10>then went in through the doors, shooting through the doors,

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01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 10>and moved from pew to pew, and my daughter made

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01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:53.960
<v Speaker 10>me realize it was shooting going on. I grabbed an

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<v Speaker 10>AR fifteen and a handful of ammunition, put into the

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01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:07.000
<v Speaker 10>magazine and grinnered across the street and.

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<v Speaker 11>He had just shot Chris.

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<v Speaker 10>Workman in the back, paralyzing him for life through the

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01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 10>view and he moved to shooting, and he was gunner,

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01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 10>shooting at point blank range. And I yelled out as

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01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.960
<v Speaker 10>I was running across the street, and he heard me,

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01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 10>and he came out of the church shooting at me,

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01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 10>and I ran behind to pick up for cover, and

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01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:35.359
<v Speaker 10>he hit the truck in front of me, shattered the

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01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 10>windshield of the car behind me, hit the house behind me,

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<v Speaker 10>and I put six out of six rounds on him.

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<v Speaker 10>He was able to get in his vehicle, which was

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<v Speaker 10>sitting in the middle of the street, driver's side door, open,

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01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 10>engine running, and he fled the scene and I flagged

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<v Speaker 10>down a truck and we chased him eleven point six

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01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 10>miles before he committed suicide. He had a Class three

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01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:09.239
<v Speaker 10>body armor and a ballistic bulletproof helmet, and that's why

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01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 10>most of my shots didn't count.

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01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:14.039
<v Speaker 11>But I was able to put a.

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01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 10>Shot between the plates and one high and his legs,

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01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.960
<v Speaker 10>and a bust of one across his forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, my gosh, I mean, are you thinking anything at

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01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 1>that moment? All you were thinking was this guy is

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01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 1>shooting the church and I've I've got to stop him.

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01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I've got the power to do that because I've got

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01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a weapon, I've got AMMO, and I've got the training

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01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to go after this guy. I mean, I can't even

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01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:47.439
<v Speaker 1>imagine what's going through your mind when you first realized

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01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 1>what was happening and what you had to do. What

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01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>did you think?

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<v Speaker 10>Make no mistake, I did not shoot him because I

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01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 10>hated him. I shot him because I loved everybody in

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01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:03.680
<v Speaker 10>that church. Generation in Southerland Springs, I grew up on

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01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 10>a dairy right there in Southerland Springs. My great grandfather

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01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 10>bought the property and I was fourth generation there and

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01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:13.960
<v Speaker 10>I never wanted.

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<v Speaker 11>To live anywhere but Southerland Springs.

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<v Speaker 10>Total population is under six hundred people. I knew almost

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01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 10>everybody in that church, and I was just resolved stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, right. So, I mean, there wasn't a whole lot

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01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:33.119
<v Speaker 1>of thinking that went into it. You just knew you

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01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 1>had to react and act.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely absolutely, I truly believe that God called me for

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01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 10>that moment, had protected me in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, amen, Yeah, because he came out of the church

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01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:52.319
<v Speaker 1>shooting at you when you yelled, and absolutely.

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<v Speaker 10>So absolutely, Gun Owners of America has been fighting to

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01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:01.680
<v Speaker 10>keep your right to be able to do to defend yourself,

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01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 10>and to keep AR fifteen's legal nationwide.

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<v Speaker 11>Please go to gun owners dot org and find up.

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<v Speaker 10>I now work for them, and I go from state

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01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:16.239
<v Speaker 10>to state fighting these laws. They take me in to

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01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.479
<v Speaker 10>state capitals and I speak on behalf of Gun Owners

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01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:21.079
<v Speaker 10>of America.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So as we look twenty twenty five in

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01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the eye here, in the next thirty six hours or whatever,

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01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:35.199
<v Speaker 1>there are new laws that are being enacted or certainly

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01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:40.640
<v Speaker 1>being attempted to be enacted with or without court challenges. Specifically,

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01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I understand in Delaware and Minnesota, which are two prime

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01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>suspects for states that want to deprive Americans of their

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01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 1>constitutional rights, their individual constitutional rights, at least their pasttrack

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01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:02.279
<v Speaker 1>record says, So what is being proposed and what's going

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01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to happen? What are the new gun laws in the

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01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:09.159
<v Speaker 1>states in twenty twenty five that you would be opposing

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01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and you were looking forward to fighting along with gun

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01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:13.479
<v Speaker 1>owners of America, Stephen.

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01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:17.239
<v Speaker 11>Well, things like the assault weapons ban.

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01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:24.520
<v Speaker 10>And we have one watch for the date of January seventeenth,

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01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:33.840
<v Speaker 10>because the Sloop bill is going before the before the

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01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:41.000
<v Speaker 10>Supreme Court, and that bill basically we are pushing to

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01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 10>try to overturn Maryland's assault weapons ban, and.

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<v Speaker 11>The on the seventeenth, the Supreme.

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01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 10>Court will let us know whether they are going to

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01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:58.000
<v Speaker 10>hear the case. And if the Supreme Court here's this case,

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01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 10>we are ninety seven percent sure that they will overturn

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01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:11.439
<v Speaker 10>assault weapons as if they call them bands nationwide all

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01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:15.800
<v Speaker 10>the way. California will even have to deal with it

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01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 10>if it gets overturned as second amen as a infringement

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01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:23.880
<v Speaker 10>on the Second Amendment and we are going to restore

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01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.880
<v Speaker 10>a bunch of our rights that won't let any state

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01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 10>make an assault weapons BAM or a high capacity magazine baan.

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<v Speaker 10>We are fighting all the way to the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 10>to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who oppose your right and my right to

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01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 1>own and bear firearms and oppose our god given constitutional

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01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>right to do so under the Constitution of the United

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01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:58.079
<v Speaker 1>States of America, they demonize certain kinds of weapons because

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01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to do so, from what I understand, because

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01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the weapons may look formidable, they may look scary, but

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01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>they also mischaracterize those weapons as assault weapons. An AR

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01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.560
<v Speaker 1>fifteen is not an assault weapon, is it.

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01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:17.479
<v Speaker 11>No, it is not.

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01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:22.920
<v Speaker 10>It's a tem automatic sporting rifle. And just because it

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01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.079
<v Speaker 10>may look like an M sixteen.

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01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:25.279
<v Speaker 1>It is not.

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01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.399
<v Speaker 10>And even if it were, I believe our constitution would

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01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.199
<v Speaker 10>provide that we be able to even own that.

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01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:38.279
<v Speaker 11>And again, they really.

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01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:41.479
<v Speaker 10>They want to focus on something that isn't the problem.

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01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:46.640
<v Speaker 10>Even the FBI stats say more people are beat to

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01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:52.520
<v Speaker 10>death with hammers every year than murdered with a rifle

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01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:55.439
<v Speaker 10>in general, and that's all rifles, whether it's a bolt

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01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 10>action or anything else. More people are beat to death

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01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:08.840
<v Speaker 10>with so by their measure, should we be going after

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01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 10>Stamley Hammers for damming hammers?

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01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Maybe?

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01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess. There's a famous story that I always cite

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01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>when I come into these conversations with people who oppose

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01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:25.880
<v Speaker 1>gun ownership, and it dates back about gosh, twenty five

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01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:30.119
<v Speaker 1>or thirty years There's a story in California, and it

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01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.520
<v Speaker 1>may have been a Vietnamese immigrant who had moved to

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01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the country legally whatever, but he beat his neighbor to

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01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:40.319
<v Speaker 1>death with a bag of frozen squirrels that he had

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01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>out in the garage in a freezer. People with ill

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01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:48.960
<v Speaker 1>intent are going to use whatever they have handy if

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01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they want to perpetrate this kind of evil, if they

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01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:54.199
<v Speaker 1>want to murder someone, if they want to cause physical

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01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:59.159
<v Speaker 1>harm to someone. The gun does not by itself spring

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01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:03.079
<v Speaker 1>up and start shoot people. It is the person behind

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01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the gun. And again, being a good guy with the

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01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 1>gun is the only way to stop a bad guy

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01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 1>with the gun. And I'm sorry we don't have enough

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01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement around us all the time, especially now, to

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01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:21.640
<v Speaker 1>defend ourselves when we need to. And gun owners of

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01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>America and people like you are speaking out, and you're

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01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a living example that a good guy with a gun

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01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is the only way to stop a bad guy with

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01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a gun, And some of these states are proposing in

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01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five even more restrictive areas that are gun

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01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:42.199
<v Speaker 1>free zones. This is where the majority of these kinds

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01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:45.199
<v Speaker 1>of mass shootings happen in gun free zones.

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<v Speaker 10>Correct, ninety four percent of all mass shootings happen in

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01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:59.159
<v Speaker 10>gun free zones. So if you are in a gun

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01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:04.479
<v Speaker 10>free zone, it is way more likely. And remember remember

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01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.600
<v Speaker 10>that when second count police are minutes away, please make

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01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:12.199
<v Speaker 10>it there in time to mop up blood, take evidence,

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01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:17.199
<v Speaker 10>and hopefully hopefully arrest someone and hope that a judge

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01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:21.560
<v Speaker 10>or a jury doesn't let that person off. Bad guys

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01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.920
<v Speaker 10>are going to get guns, and bad guys are going

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01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:25.800
<v Speaker 10>to ignore your gun free zones.

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01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:30.399
<v Speaker 11>And that's where they prefer to attack.

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01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:32.399
<v Speaker 10>Is in a gun free zone because they know they

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01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.840
<v Speaker 10>have rest chance of resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the Minnesota gun law that has been

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01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>proposed in twenty twenty where it's perfectly okay to burn

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01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>down the town as we saw back in the BLM

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01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Rights in twenty twenty, but it's not okay for a

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01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:55.079
<v Speaker 1>law abiding citizen to have a gun with what's called

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01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a binary trigger. What is a binary trigger? And why

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01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.159
<v Speaker 1>is it stupid that Minnesota is trying to ban binary

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01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:06.039
<v Speaker 1>triggers in twenty twenty five.

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01:24:07.279 --> 01:24:11.119
<v Speaker 10>First, they're just looking to ban whatever they can get

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01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 10>the hands on, and it sounds really nasty to a

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01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:21.239
<v Speaker 10>binary trigger. I own two binary triggers, and it functions

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01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 10>just like a regular sem automatic if you have it

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01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.560
<v Speaker 10>in reglar mode, but you can switch it over to

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01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 10>binary mode, and it fires once you pull the trigger,

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01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:32.359
<v Speaker 10>and it fires once when.

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01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 11>You let go of the trigger.

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01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 10>Okay, so it fires on the pull and on the

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01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 10>release of the trigger. And there's not been any crimes

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01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.359
<v Speaker 10>committed with binary triggers.

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01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:48.880
<v Speaker 11>They just want to ban something so they can say, look,

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01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 11>this is what we're doing.

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01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:51.279
<v Speaker 1>It's all positive.

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01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:54.359
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's all postering.

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01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Again.

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01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.159
<v Speaker 11>Rifles in general every year.

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<v Speaker 10>And this is FBI stats kill less people than hammers.

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<v Speaker 11>Think about that for a moment. And knives over double bond.

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01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:19.600
<v Speaker 10>So rather than ban a rifle, knives killed twice as many,

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01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:22.560
<v Speaker 10>don't you think, you know, if you were real serious

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01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:24.199
<v Speaker 10>about what mattered.

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<v Speaker 11>And I'm not advocating for banning knives, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to get to that Stephen because

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01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:34.319
<v Speaker 1>if hammers were the problem, even though hammers kill more

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01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>people than rifles every year in this country, according to

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01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the FBI, if hammers were the problem, every construction site

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01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in America would be a blood bath. It's not the

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01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>inanimate object that is the issue. The issue is societal.

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01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.079
<v Speaker 1>It is the person who was holding that object. And

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01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you cannot restrict people who have the right to defend

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01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>themselves and their families from owning a gun because somebody

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01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.039
<v Speaker 1>did something stupid or evil with a gun.

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<v Speaker 10>Understand, the guy that murdered people in seven and Springs

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01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:12.600
<v Speaker 10>had an AR fifteen and so did I.

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<v Speaker 11>That AR fifteen that I own is a tool, and

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01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:18.920
<v Speaker 11>any tool can be.

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01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:24.039
<v Speaker 10>Used to do something magnificent or it can be misused

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01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:29.560
<v Speaker 10>to create devastations. And you know, you put a hammer

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01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:34.000
<v Speaker 10>in the hands of a gifted carpenter and he can build.

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01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:38.720
<v Speaker 11>A mansion, or he can are a.

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01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 10>Criminal that's going to have ill intent, can murder a

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01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:47.199
<v Speaker 10>man with a hammer. It's an inanimate object, yep. It

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01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:51.279
<v Speaker 10>has no conscience, and so is a rifle, so as

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01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 10>a pistol. So there's a knife or cane for that matter,

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01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.520
<v Speaker 10>or even a vehicle that you can take and run through.

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01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:02.640
<v Speaker 11>A Christmas party and murdered many people.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened in Germany in that in the Kindle.

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<v Speaker 11>Market, and just a couple of years ago it happened here.

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01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:13.279
<v Speaker 11>That may have been in Minnesota. I don't remember exactly

1489
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.600
<v Speaker 11>where that was where he ran through the Christmas parade

1490
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:17.720
<v Speaker 11>and murdered one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the things that they are guarding against in New

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01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>York and Times Square for the New Year's Eve celebration,

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01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Wiliford, Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners of America,

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01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being a part of the Bill Cunningham

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01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Show today and thanks for the words of wisdom, and

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01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:39.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being a hero with a gun. God

1497
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>bless God, bless you. Got another student's report on the

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01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>way and another special guest before we're done. News next

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01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW one ten.

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<v Speaker 12>Left in overtime, the Bengals trying to win it from

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01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:55.720
<v Speaker 12>the three yard line of Denver Burrow looking to throw

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01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:56.439
<v Speaker 12>his pass.

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01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:57.359
<v Speaker 11>It is.

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01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>My tea touchdown.

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01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:05.720
<v Speaker 7>It's Ovengals, and.

1506
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:10.399
<v Speaker 12>The final playoff spot in the AFC will not be

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01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:15.399
<v Speaker 12>decided until the final week of the regular season. The

1508
01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:20.600
<v Speaker 12>Cincinnati Bengals are still alive as Joe Burrow hits T

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01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:23.279
<v Speaker 12>Higgins for a game winning touchdown.

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01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:26.960
<v Speaker 13>Dan, that's three touchdown passes over three hundred yards passing.

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01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 13>His streak is still alive two hundred and fifty or

1512
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:35.199
<v Speaker 13>more yards passing, three touchdowns or more for eight straight games.

1513
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 13>I mean, you already had the NFL record. He's continuing

1514
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.720
<v Speaker 13>to build on it. This is a magical season. Joe Burrow,

1515
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:47.840
<v Speaker 13>Jamar Chase and Gee Higgins. What a threesome?

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01:28:52.119 --> 01:29:01.479
<v Speaker 1>He quiet, I'm broadcasting guy segment. Have you ever had

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01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:06.039
<v Speaker 1>a threesome that exciting? No, Joe Burrow, Jamar, Jason T. Higgins,

1518
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>just keep playing, keep winning. See what happened. That's one

1519
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:13.319
<v Speaker 1>heck of a threesome. That's what they said. They're getting

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01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:14.439
<v Speaker 1>it done.

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01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.079
<v Speaker 8>They can keep the third guy because I don't think

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01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:18.399
<v Speaker 8>Number one is going anywhere.

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01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, no, And and I don't think Jersey one

1524
01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:23.439
<v Speaker 1>is going anywhere.

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01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:26.680
<v Speaker 8>Maybe that guy in California might Uh is a Bengal fan,

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01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:31.319
<v Speaker 8>that one, that what one point two billion fan?

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01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear that.

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01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:34.920
<v Speaker 8>I don't think so, But I mean, what if he is,

1529
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:39.640
<v Speaker 8>maybe he could contribute to the to the coffers.

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01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You mean, just a little public contribution from a from

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01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a private source to help the Bengals sign Higgins. Why

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01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>not we all do? Pretty big Bengals fan? Should should

1533
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.199
<v Speaker 1>we do? Should we do like a crowd sourcing a

1534
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:57.039
<v Speaker 1>crowd funding? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, I think that's why we it.

1535
01:29:57.119 --> 01:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But who knows.

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01:29:57.800 --> 01:29:59.920
<v Speaker 8>I mean, maybe they can work it out, their work

1537
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.560
<v Speaker 8>their magic down there, Gary, Jeff and keep all three

1538
01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:07.920
<v Speaker 8>be nice to Burrow's not going anywhere chasing that.

1539
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they can keep number five around for a while.

1540
01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It'd be nice to have somebody on defense who can

1541
01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>tackle consistently to.

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01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:18.560
<v Speaker 8>Make some of those deferred payments to mister Burrow, kind

1543
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.560
<v Speaker 8>of like Ken Griffyth juniors. Oh, I know the Reds

1544
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:23.880
<v Speaker 8>are still pay I think this was this was the

1545
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:26.319
<v Speaker 8>last year and how many years ago to do?

1546
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Is now a few? Yeah?

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01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:33.399
<v Speaker 8>Well, Bobby Bonias, I think still getting paid till for

1548
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:34.800
<v Speaker 8>like five or six more years.

1549
01:30:34.840 --> 01:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So from the mass like it's like if you want

1550
01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the billion dollars in the mega millions and you all

1551
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.359
<v Speaker 1>for the thirty year payout they made it, it's like

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01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:46.079
<v Speaker 1>a holiday Bobby Bonilla day.

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01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:49.159
<v Speaker 8>I think it's July the first he gets a check

1554
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:51.279
<v Speaker 8>for like I don't know how many millions of dollars.

1555
01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:55.680
<v Speaker 8>Really skill played in played in twenty years easily, maybe

1556
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:56.439
<v Speaker 8>thirty years.

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01:30:56.520 --> 01:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. So maybe mister Burr was a

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01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>for some of that.

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01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.520
<v Speaker 8>Then give it to number five, give them to number one,

1560
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:06.760
<v Speaker 8>gives them to number five.

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01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Fans are happy, everybody will be happy. Well, you know, Joe, uh,

1562
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Joe bought his offensive Lineman samurai swords. They wanted guns,

1563
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they wanted guns, but great. I think the samurai swords

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01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>may be more dangerous than the guns. I just had

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01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Gunners of America on the air for last half hour. Yeah,

1566
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, more people, according to the FBI's stats,

1567
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:33.079
<v Speaker 1>are killed in America every year. What you think that

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01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:35.199
<v Speaker 1>the weapon might be a rifle. We hear about the

1569
01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>dangers of AR fifty assault weapon. Right, No, hammers. More

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01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:43.199
<v Speaker 1>people in America are killed with hammers, murdered with hammers

1571
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>than rifles. Seg. But you never hear that on the news,

1572
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. And I'll tell you what else you

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01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>don't hear on the news. You don't hear that the

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01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:52.359
<v Speaker 1>UC Bearcats are ranked number sixteen in the latest on

1575
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna mention it because Matt Reese just said they

1576
01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:59.439
<v Speaker 1>were seventeenth ranked on the news at two thirty. I'll

1577
01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:01.319
<v Speaker 1>have to go in. They are in disciplined the news.

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01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Can you yes? Can I watch.

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<v Speaker 8>feel in beautiful Western Hills called Derbot Heating and Cooling

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<v Speaker 8>at five one, three, five, nine, eighty four forty nine

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<v Speaker 8>or go to Derbin Heating and Cooling dot com. But

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<v Speaker 8>Brett Derbot is a great American who owns that fine company.

1585
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<v Speaker 1>I hear his name mentioned quite often on the Stooge reports,

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01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure he's a fine America.

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01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.720
<v Speaker 8>He is a great American. Came and helped us out

1588
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.199
<v Speaker 8>and got our heat back on. Really yep. Nice Bengals

1589
01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:42.479
<v Speaker 8>update brought to you by Good Spirits, Winding Tobacco and

1590
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<v Speaker 8>big with Good Spirits and Party Town. Thirteen convenient Northern

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<v Speaker 8>Kentucky locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.

1595
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:58.760
<v Speaker 8>Bengals regular season finale against at Pittsburgh is Saturday night

1596
01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:02.239
<v Speaker 8>at eight. If the Bengals win, they have to agonizingly

1597
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:05.760
<v Speaker 8>wait for the Chiefs and Broncos and Dolphins and Jets

1598
01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:09.119
<v Speaker 8>results both Sunday. Those kick off at four twentive.

1599
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So the Jets and the Dolphins are playing the last

1600
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:19.359
<v Speaker 1>game on the schedule next Sunday or next day they

1601
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have they have a Sunday night game, I believe. So

1602
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have to if they beat Pittsburgh, Denver's got

1603
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to lose to Kansas City and the Dolphins. The Jets

1604
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>can ease out one more win this year over the

1605
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins. Ain't gonna happen.

1606
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 8>It is Aaron Rodgers pulled himself out of the game yesterday.

1607
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:40.199
<v Speaker 8>That guy ought to just say that's it because his

1608
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.600
<v Speaker 8>career and he can't move his career is. His career

1609
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.840
<v Speaker 8>has just gone down the toilet ever since he went

1610
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:49.840
<v Speaker 8>to New York. Bengals running back Chase Brown has a

1611
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:53.520
<v Speaker 8>high ankle sprain. His availability on Saturday will depend on

1612
01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:56.680
<v Speaker 8>how much he progresses throughout the week. More tonight on

1613
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.720
<v Speaker 8>Bengals line six oh five. Here on seven hundred WLW.

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01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.359
<v Speaker 8>After six thirty, the show goes excuse me to ESPN

1615
01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:07.119
<v Speaker 8>fifteen thirty. All right, let's see what else you can

1616
01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:10.399
<v Speaker 8>vote for Joe Burrow and t Higgins. They're up for

1617
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:13.199
<v Speaker 8>the FedEx Air and Ground Player of the Week awards.

1618
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.920
<v Speaker 8>Go to Bengals dot com forward slash FedEx to vote

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01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:24.479
<v Speaker 8>and vote often. Like Chicago, Let's see tonight number sixteen Cincinnati.

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01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Bearcats sixteen Big twelve play to.

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01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:30.720
<v Speaker 8>Kansas State with the action six thirty here on seven

1622
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:35.159
<v Speaker 8>underd WLW and then Defiance and the Miami RedHawks Tonight.

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01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:39.760
<v Speaker 8>You're off early tomorrow because uh one thirday Xavier plays

1624
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:40.000
<v Speaker 8>at the.

1625
01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Great American Show will only last from noon to one

1626
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.439
<v Speaker 1>thirty tomorrow. I'm going to pack all this action into

1627
01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:51.119
<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes instead of the usual play hours WOW and

1628
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>afternoon basketball. Also, I will also be doing a nightcap

1629
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night at nine WOW. And it is a recap

1630
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite Greater American History on the radio interviews

1631
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 1>with the likes of my radio heroes through the years,

1632
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Lee Habibe, Pat Saint John Radio Hall of Famer, Yes,

1633
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>John Records, Landecker, who I grew up listening to in

1634
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Chicago on WLS in the early nineteen seventies, Sir, and

1635
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>one Shotgun Tom Kelly who has a book and a

1636
01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:31.439
<v Speaker 1>star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame all featured tomorrow night.

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01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>As we counted.

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01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 8>About that huge What are you going to do for

1639
01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:40.159
<v Speaker 8>New Year's Eve? Is huddles open? No, We're going to Ripley.

1640
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:42.600
<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, we're going to go see our friends in Ripley.

1641
01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:46.880
<v Speaker 8>That I talked to Brookie's Saloon. Every Saturday morning, We're

1642
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:48.560
<v Speaker 8>going to go to Doug and Angie's house and have

1643
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:50.239
<v Speaker 8>his seafood spectacular.

1644
01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>About that nice? I have every hour another entree of

1645
01:35:55.399 --> 01:36:01.199
<v Speaker 1>delectable gifts. Treasures from the ocean will be featured on

1646
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the menu. Maybe some lobster tales, who knows, some oysters Rockefeller,

1647
01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>some coconut shrimp, some tuna on the grill every hour.

1648
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to crash that party segment. Get us out

1649
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Stooge Report.

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01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:19.560
<v Speaker 8>Gary Jeff in honor of a beautiful day here in

1651
01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:22.359
<v Speaker 8>the Tri State, Then go Bengals, who day. We leave

1652
01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:25.680
<v Speaker 8>you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

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01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Philly, you gotta get off the doll fours and next

1654
01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:32.479
<v Speaker 3>year come with me to the Little Brown Drug in Delaware.

1655
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:35.079
<v Speaker 4>It is is a is a great day to see

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01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:36.680
<v Speaker 4>hors racing its best.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice, Thank you, seg yes, sir, And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have another special guest at the end of the

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01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Steward Report, the one the only fur Ball joins us. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Furman, how are you?

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01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to talk to the segment.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still here. He's still He's still in the studios.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend, I heard you're I heard you talking over

1664
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:04.359
<v Speaker 3>there with SEGGI okay, number one, you're upset. Tomorrow is

1665
01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>going to be like only like one O, one thirty.

1666
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I promise you're gonna build the station for three hours

1667
01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:09.159
<v Speaker 3>of work that I know.

1668
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I know you.

1669
01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.359
<v Speaker 3>New Year's Eve. You're going to Ripley. You're going to Ripley, Ohio?

1670
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Is that right? You go anywhere for a preemeal. It's unbelievable.

1671
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:19.199
<v Speaker 3>No one knows whore Ripley is. It's not even on

1672
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:21.720
<v Speaker 3>the freaking mapping. And you'll go there for a.

1673
01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever really, have you ever been to Ripley, Ohio?

1674
01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you know the people I know in Ripley, Ohio?

1675
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you?

1676
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that, Ohio. How's that you don't believe Ripley?

1677
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not? It is. It's the lovely little

1678
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>village on the Ohio River, and they're full of great people.

1679
01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And there's what do you mean control me? What you're

1680
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna me? That's your middle name? Yeah, your middle name? Yeah?

1681
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:51.159
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

1682
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't understand how wonderful Ripley really is. It's it's

1683
01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it is the jewel of Brown County, Ohio. How now,

1684
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Brown County?

1685
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:02.199
<v Speaker 3>If it's brown, flush it down.

1686
01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if itit's Brown, flush it down. What other vitriol

1687
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>have you got for me?

1688
01:38:07.479 --> 01:38:07.960
<v Speaker 7>For a ball?

1689
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's hear it? Give it that one pho.

1690
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:12.840
<v Speaker 3>First of all, let me tell you why I'm going

1691
01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:15.840
<v Speaker 3>a little nuts. Okay. I just came from Costco. My

1692
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:18.199
<v Speaker 3>wife asked me to go to Costco. I tell you what,

1693
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I'd rather be in a plane with turbulence to go

1694
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:23.199
<v Speaker 3>to Costco. How's that? It is unbelievable, you know what?

1695
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Those people are either stupid or they're just nervy. Okay.

1696
01:38:26.159 --> 01:38:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I get online and the line was like seven people

1697
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:31.560
<v Speaker 3>deep at every line. Okay, And the guy comes on

1698
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:34.199
<v Speaker 3>there with a woman and they're sharing the bill. Hey,

1699
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:36.319
<v Speaker 3>come on, doing at home, don't do it for this

1700
01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.920
<v Speaker 3>item is yours? Just side his mind. I'll pay for this.

1701
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Are you freaking kidding?

1702
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 4>Me.

1703
01:38:40.840 --> 01:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I almost walked out. Really, how stupid could you be?

1704
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:46.159
<v Speaker 3>How nervy could you be? You want to split the bill?

1705
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:50.479
<v Speaker 3>I get it, it's okay doing at home. Don't do it?

1706
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:53.039
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, hold on, let me get this right, Andy,

1707
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Because you made a significant point. I think that needs

1708
01:38:56.439 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to be re emphasized because if you've noticed women out

1709
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:04.479
<v Speaker 1>to lunch or and I see it all the time

1710
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>at the bar where it's two or three women who

1711
01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>come in to have a few drinks and then it's

1712
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>time for the tab and they're trying to figure out

1713
01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>which one is which, and who who had what, and

1714
01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>how much they and all of the rest of that.

1715
01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But did you say this was a guy and a

1716
01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>woman at Costco?

1717
01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1718
01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me tell you something. I will tell you

1719
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:27.760
<v Speaker 3>this though, I applaud the restaurants, at least the Greater

1720
01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati because for the last several years, when you go

1721
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.239
<v Speaker 3>get the meal, do you want one check? Or you're

1722
01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:36.000
<v Speaker 3>splin to ask you? They asked you prior to the meal,

1723
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:38.680
<v Speaker 3>which is wonderful because I don't want to go through that.

1724
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:41.399
<v Speaker 3>But I went through it today at Costco, the guys

1725
01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:44.479
<v Speaker 3>spend over two hundred and fifty bucks or they and

1726
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:45.760
<v Speaker 3>they're splitting the bill.

1727
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Years now, andy, let me finish, all right, Yes, So

1728
01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:54.119
<v Speaker 1>three guys come into the bar and there are and

1729
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say several tabs, and one will always step

1730
01:39:58.039 --> 01:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>up because he's a guy and go, no, I got

1731
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>this round. No, don't worry about it. And he looks

1732
01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.479
<v Speaker 1>at his buddies and they all agree. That's how men are.

1733
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Women are the ones who usually are haggling over who's

1734
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna owe what and how are we gonna split it up.

1735
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:16.399
<v Speaker 1>But this guy, this supposedly male of the human species,

1736
01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>was was bartering with or haggling with a woman. If

1737
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you're a guy, you just pay it and maybe maybe

1738
01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>she pays you back later, maybe she doesn't. I don't

1739
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>know what their relationship was. But with women you get this.

1740
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:34.079
<v Speaker 1>With men you should never have this happen. I mean,

1741
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to sound misogynist, because I am. But no,

1742
01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>if it's a guy involved in this discussion, then he's

1743
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>not really a man. I mean, you know, you want

1744
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to you want to you want to check, you want

1745
01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:48.079
<v Speaker 1>to check the hanging downs on that guy.

1746
01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Right, we probably probably we probably wearing streights shop. He

1747
01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:56.680
<v Speaker 3>went shoppings because he has none. But I will tell

1748
01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you this. It's another thing at Costco. And here's the situation.

1749
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.079
<v Speaker 3>They give a lot of those free samples out. Yeah,

1750
01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:05.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't convinced. Fifty percent of the people that go

1751
01:41:05.239 --> 01:41:08.479
<v Speaker 3>to Costco don't buy Diddley. They go there for free sample.

1752
01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 3>You should see the lines who were just a free sample.

1753
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Some guy came there the motor scooter and he held

1754
01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:16.039
<v Speaker 3>up the whole line, the whole aisle, you know, to

1755
01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>get a slice of pizza. Are you freaking kidding? It's unbelievable.

1756
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.880
<v Speaker 3>They give away it, the drinks and pizza and cookies.

1757
01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Come on, really, they don't buy it.

1758
01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Again, this is not a universal thing, but I believe

1759
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people who go shopping in the

1760
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:40.039
<v Speaker 1>motorized chairs and the scooters are in motorized scooters for

1761
01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:43.079
<v Speaker 1>a reason. And many times that reason is all the

1762
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>free pizza they've eaten at Costco. What do you think?

1763
01:41:46.039 --> 01:41:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you very much. But I just want

1764
01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to change this because I really and there's such good

1765
01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:54.520
<v Speaker 3>news out there, because I finally I've seen an athlete,

1766
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:57.079
<v Speaker 3>and I've heard an athlete who has honesty, and I

1767
01:41:57.119 --> 01:41:59.640
<v Speaker 3>love honesty. And it was Eric Dickerson of all people

1768
01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:02.800
<v Speaker 3>who set the single season rushing record back with the Rams.

1769
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Back in nineteen eighty four.

1770
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Tay Kwan Barkley is one hundred and one yards away

1771
01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:11.920
<v Speaker 3>from that record. And they asked there a differenson yesterday

1772
01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:13.800
<v Speaker 3>what he thought. You know what he said, I don't

1773
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:15.880
<v Speaker 3>want to break the record. Yeah, it I know, the

1774
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.199
<v Speaker 3>politically correct thing to say. What it would have been,

1775
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:20.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, I wish him well, I hope

1776
01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:22.199
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't. No, no, you know what he said, I

1777
01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.680
<v Speaker 3>don't want to break the record. And then you know

1778
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:26.760
<v Speaker 3>he said, then he says to the reporter, you know,

1779
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.800
<v Speaker 3>and the reporter says, well, records are made to be broken.

1780
01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>You know what he said.

1781
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.119
<v Speaker 3>You said that because you never had a record. You

1782
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:33.319
<v Speaker 3>know what, it's playing records.

1783
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Don't love that.

1784
01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I do. I do hope say Kwan Barkley breaks the record.

1785
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>But I look, the Eagles are playing for nothing. They're

1786
01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:44.359
<v Speaker 3>playing the Giants on Sunday. They're playing for nothing. They've

1787
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:47.159
<v Speaker 3>already clinched. Okay, they got the number two. So I

1788
01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:49.640
<v Speaker 3>would think it would be wise not to play say

1789
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Kwan Barkley because he needs he needs one hundred and

1790
01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:54.279
<v Speaker 3>one yards to break the record, and that's that's rough.

1791
01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Let him be helpful.

1792
01:42:55.039 --> 01:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know how hard it is and how hard pressed

1793
01:42:56.960 --> 01:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I am to never agree with you on anything, but

1794
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I told wholeheartedly agree with you on this right And

1795
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the next time somebody just randomly says, well, records are

1796
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>made to be broken, I'll just look at it.

1797
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a right to have one?

1798
01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a record?

1799
01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's your record. Yeah, thank you.

1800
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a broken record, over and over and over again.

1801
01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>What so you see? You see sixteenth in the country, Andy,

1802
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>this is pretty exciting for U see basketball. It's been

1803
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a while.

1804
01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:26.279
<v Speaker 4>You don't what though?

1805
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.560
<v Speaker 3>If you're not in the final four from five to sixteen,

1806
01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:32.399
<v Speaker 3>five to twenty five doesn't mean anything. It's nice, it's great.

1807
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Like I like the coach. I do like them. I mean,

1808
01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I think things are doing well over there. I like

1809
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they've kept a team intact in this

1810
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:43.720
<v Speaker 3>era of nil, which is very unusual. And there's a

1811
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:45.840
<v Speaker 3>good opportunity for them maybe to have these guys come

1812
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.239
<v Speaker 3>back next year because you see what happened. Did you

1813
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:50.720
<v Speaker 3>see what happened at University of Miami and Florida. Jim

1814
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Laarrenega quit. He quit on Thursday. He said he can't

1815
01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:56.239
<v Speaker 3>handle it anymore. Let me tell you something. You know,

1816
01:43:56.880 --> 01:44:00.239
<v Speaker 3>several years ago he was coaching George Mason University and

1817
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:02.159
<v Speaker 3>he got a big because they went to the final four.

1818
01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:03.800
<v Speaker 3>He got a big to go to the final four,

1819
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:04.439
<v Speaker 3>George Mason.

1820
01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Where you do?

1821
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:05.760
<v Speaker 4>He left?

1822
01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:07.560
<v Speaker 3>He up and left and he went to Miami. All right,

1823
01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 3>So it's okay for him to do that, but it's

1824
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:12.720
<v Speaker 3>not okay for his kids up and leave if they

1825
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:14.720
<v Speaker 3>go to the final four and look for more money

1826
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>with their hands out at another university. What are you

1827
01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.279
<v Speaker 3>a hypocrite? He's a hypocrite. No, he quit, he couldn't

1828
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>face the music. I love this. I love these situations

1829
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:25.760
<v Speaker 3>where you know it's okay for the coach to do it,

1830
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:27.880
<v Speaker 3>but the players can't do it. Give me a break.

1831
01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's what else. It burns my biscuits, Andy about

1832
01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:37.039
<v Speaker 1>coaches in college football or back. Yeah, my biscuits. Anyway,

1833
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh I happy Hanukah. By the way, it's still going

1834
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>on so anyway, So anyway, what really bothers me is

1835
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>these coaches, whether it be football or basketball, they get

1836
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:53.199
<v Speaker 1>they get their team to a bowl game or you know,

1837
01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even the playoff and they go to another

1838
01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>school and they don't. They ought to be forced to

1839
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>coach the team that they got to the bowl before

1840
01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they can go off and recruit for the new school.

1841
01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Don't you think, well, it's difficult, because I agree, but

1842
01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:12.560
<v Speaker 3>it's very difficult because the NCAA rules of the portal situation.

1843
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:15.079
<v Speaker 3>The portal is open, so they got to recruit the kids.

1844
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:16.439
<v Speaker 3>They never get them out of the portal. So the

1845
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.119
<v Speaker 3>whole thing is asked backwards, it really is, and then

1846
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.039
<v Speaker 3>they got to do something about it because it's not right.

1847
01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:24.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean right now. You know, back in the day,

1848
01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.520
<v Speaker 3>when the coach is going to Mama and Papa in

1849
01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the kid's house in the living room trying to recruit them,

1850
01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:31.159
<v Speaker 3>the questions asked by the kid were how many games

1851
01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:33.359
<v Speaker 3>will we be on TV? And once the schedule? And

1852
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>will I start?

1853
01:45:34.079 --> 01:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>And how much? And how much? How many? How many

1854
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>unmarked bills are in that envelope?

1855
01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Right? Yeah, well they's got that too. That was not

1856
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:42.840
<v Speaker 3>going to say because that was under the table. But

1857
01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:45.119
<v Speaker 3>the point is now, the first question is that he

1858
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.199
<v Speaker 3>asked the coach how much money do I get? And

1859
01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:49.399
<v Speaker 3>it's a shame because I don't think I love the

1860
01:45:49.439 --> 01:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>University of Cincinnati. I followed other the years. I don't

1861
01:45:52.279 --> 01:45:54.800
<v Speaker 3>know if they could compete in that conference with schools

1862
01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:56.800
<v Speaker 3>with the likes of Beyonce Stands at Colorado.

1863
01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:59.399
<v Speaker 1>There. These are questions. They are going to have to

1864
01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:03.119
<v Speaker 1>be answered in another time. So let's say that because

1865
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>we're out of time.

1866
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, you saved me for the end.

1867
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Huh.

1868
01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the best for last, always for all. I have

1869
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.039
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic New Year.

1870
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Because I was an ass.

1871
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 1>That's why no I had you on the air, because

1872
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:18.199
<v Speaker 1>you're an ass.

1873
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:22.840
<v Speaker 3>There you go, all right, Happy Holidays, Field, a merry Christmas,

1874
01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Happy New Year, Happy Hank, Happy Kwanza, and a healthy

1875
01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:27.159
<v Speaker 3>new Year. And I hope you wife is healthy too,

1876
01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:28.479
<v Speaker 3>because I know shoes little under the weather.

1877
01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Have a good day, sir, talk to you tomorrow at noon.

1878
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Until then, BAM Voyage seven hundred W l W