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Speaker 1: I made a decision sunny sound. I had a vision night.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Everyboddy was up for crying out loud and it's Friday.

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We got some docs to talk about, we got gossip

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to talk about. That's a bunch of shit to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did want to tell you this. I got

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so irritated the other day because so as you know,

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Xander is over committed. Yes, every freaking activity the go

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get her, He's a go getter. I got so mad

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the other day because of course I should be to

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say I should be saying this on Patreon, but I'm

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not okay, And you know what, I'm too loose with

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the like a lot of people at my kids school, No,

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I have a podcast these days, like they've met, I've

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had it mentioned to me, like, oh you have a podcast, Yes,

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I remember those days right right, listen if you are

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it's this that disease, zip it tend it's Patreon. I

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don't know whatever. I don't want to anyway. I get

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over volunteered, as you know, and I have been working

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really hard at like trashing emails that I just don't

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want to be involved with. And I feel kind of

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a twinge of being bad if I had a therapist,

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which I don't write this minute. They would probably be

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very proud of me. Yes, I would probably chime around

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and go, I just deleted all these emails. You should

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feel liberated. Well, so, okay, my friend Tiamura made me

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feel better about this because so he's he's not in

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the school play which is going to be having its

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opening night very soon, but he's the assistant director. So

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my friend Tamra I was like, I'm already getting all

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these emails that are like, hey, the kids are going

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to be in tech Okay. I get an email that says,

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here's all it's tech rehearsal week starting right now. So

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he's this is tech rehearsal week that we've just passed.

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The email was like, the kids need to be there

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from from after school till like seven o'clock at night.

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Then next week is the show, right Also, they need

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to be there to rehearse Saturday and Sunday, so basically

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it's seven days a week starting We're talking on a Monday.

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I get this email. It was like yesterday, Yeah, Saturday, Saturday,

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he was at rehearsal. Sunday he didn't have to go

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starting to day that We're recording seven days a week

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through the show, and I was like, oh, hell no

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to do college applications. Yeah, this is crazy because also

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schoolwork right, So and I was I got so mad

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that like, why did he agree to do this play?

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It was such bad timing. Why didn't I mom up

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and go.

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Speaker 2: Well, because you didn't know? How are you supposed to know?

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It was going to be like, oh, hell, we should

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have known.

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Speaker 3: I forgot. I forgot how crazy it gets tech week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also when your kid wants to do something

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and wants to be like you kind of feel good

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about it.

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Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, okay, go for it. But here's the thing,

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it's not only the kid that gets hurt. It's the moment.

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Why are you going to I was just gonna say,

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get the emails that are like, so we need people

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to sign up to bring meals? Yet for all the kids,

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who's going to hello, are we gonna get a peak

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that day? This day, this day, this day, this day.

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And in my mind, I'm just like, listen, if you

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guys want to just order pizza every night, and like

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I'm happy to chip in for that. Yeah, I am

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not organizing snacks for this now. So then I told

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my friend Camera and I I was like, I have

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just been like deleting all the emails. And she goes, good,

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she goes Xander's in a service position. He's not even

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in the play. He's helping out right, So you don't

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have to do anything in that.

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Speaker 2: Let us let the actors take it their parents, let

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their moms have to go over there and bring the pizzas.

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Speaker 3: But it's like the tech that I can't imagine chain.

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It's like this person, Oh my god, it's like you're

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almost at the finishing I know, but it's like the

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mom who does everything, who I've named checked here before,

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I won't do it right now. Is like first they're like, hey,

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her name's Nancy. They're like, Nancy, could you do a

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sign up genius? And she does because she's the best, right,

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But like so she sets up a sign up genius,

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but everybody's like, but then you get these emails that

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are like, what do you mean by a heavy snack day?

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It's like, oh my god, oh my god. First of

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all figured out, but second of all, I don't want

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to I don't even want to be in this conversation.

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So I I've been there's been like forty emails.

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Speaker 2: I just delete, delete, delete, delete, good you should it's enough.

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Speaker 3: But I told Xander. I was like, listen, I got

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this email and this is your schedule, and this just

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like no, like no, can't be at school that after that,

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you're going to have literally two weeks before the deadline

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for all the UC applications. We're talking about the next

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four years. Like I don't really care that much about,

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like you assistant directing this play. So I had bad

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at him, but I was like, listen, you know we

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didn't really we should have thought this through. This is

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really bad timing. So you can't. You can't do every

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single rehearsal. He was like okay. So he just sent

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me a text and he was like, mom, I talked

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to the teacher and I only have to be there.

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I don't have to go every day. I could just go.

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The most important days for tech are Monday and Thursday,

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so perfect, all right, I'll take Tuesday and Wednesday, and

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then I maybe he doesn't have to be there on

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the weekend, and then I think he'll have to here

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opening night. But he doesn't have to be there for

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all the performances because it's done. Oh good, Like he's

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literally out there directing, right, there's a director, right, so

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he doesn't that he can skip. We'll probably show Opening

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night and like closing night.

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Speaker 2: Good good, Wow, I felt better. That is a lot.

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That's a lot, especially with the applications coming up. Yeah, no, no, no, no,

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you had to step in.

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Speaker 3: Ugh, yeah I did. How are the kids doing with

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their I mean na is only applying to Santa Barbara, right,

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and same with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are working with they have a counselor

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at their school that they're working with, and they don't

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want my help.

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Speaker 3: So I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Keeping up checking in like we got it, we got it.

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We got both of them, Like we got it, I

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got it. I understand. You know, they'll tell me they're

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gonna send it to me when they have it written,

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stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see. Yeah it's exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. So

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we're gonna be like in the same boat again, I know, right,

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starting starting to Yeah, well the younger, the twins and

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the twins, right, yeah, it's going there, the twins and

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then the holidays are coming.

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Speaker 2: Somebody on Facebook invited me to Thanksgiving. That was really sweet.

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Speaker 3: I know you're coming with me if you're not right,

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if you're not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Have the kids right, So we'll see. I think I am.

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I think I'm cooking for them yea, oh really, yeah,

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Adam didn't win that. They don't really like going to

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Adam's family. They like when they like being home and

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smelling the turkey and all that, and then their friends

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can come over and hang out.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, that definitely sounds

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more fun. Yes, yeah, no traveling nothing right, Yeah. Yeah,

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So that that's that. So Elbie's birthday with today's the third. Yeah,

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her birthday is the twelfth. Got to do a twenty first?

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Oh my gosh, what are you gonna do? So, okay,

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here's what I'm gonna do. I'm whoa, I may not.

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I may not take her to Vegas. I'm trying to.

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I'm trying to think. Here's the thing. She's got a

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very exciting life. She doesn't really need the addage. She's

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got a lot of things planned. I don't know that

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this is there's plenty of time for us to take

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a trip. It could be after she graduates. Yeah, where

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she's feeling more relaxed and she doesn't have like a

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lot of stuff. It seems like she does have a

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lot going on. She's going to she's got different raves happening,

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she's gonna be working with this company that I talk about.

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On Tuesday, She's planning a trip to Oregon with her

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girlfriend to see a bunch of their guy friends.

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Speaker 2: Nic.

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Speaker 3: It was like, maybe what I do instead is I okay?

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So I was like, one thing that I know she

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really needs, that she wants and needs is headphones. Because

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her AirPods, like she bought them years ago. Yeah, I

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think she's literally had those for three or four years.

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so they're not charging upright, huh. So I said, well,

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do you want new AirPods or do you want headphones? Right?

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Most people are using headphones.

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the young kids are on the planes with headphones. Yeah,

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full on headphones. Yeah, at the gym and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I told John, I think we should buy

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her like some good headphones. Right, there's the beats and

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there's like another kind. But I was like, Elbe's a

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little bit of a brand whore, not like she has

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to have those Apple like five hundred dollars ones, so

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we looked up but I wanted to get her some

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nice ones, so we looked up these. I can't remember.

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there's some five series for anyone's. And it was really

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funny because I was going to Costco and I was like,

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maybe we should look at the headphones. Then I was

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between two, like a JBL pair and the Sony pair,

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and I was like, you know what, fuck surprises. She's picky,

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like it's her twenty. I want her to be I

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don't want to spend like three hundred dollars right and

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have it be not the fact the thing that she right.

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loves surprises. He has like a thoughtful gift. But I

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was like, honey, I wish I could be like that. Yeah,

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I know, I don't have that. I just don't. Yeah,

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really likes to put a lot of thought into it

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and he likes it to be a surprise. Yeah. But

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I was like, I hear you, But I think we

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should ask her. I think we should just tell or

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what we're getting her and give her a choice, right,

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because one of them, I was like, not sure. I

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didn't know if she would love the way the Sony's looked.

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a little smaller. So John was like, are you think

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really like we're gonna and I was like, yeah, I

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want to ask her. I don't blame cute. So I

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sent her the picture of both the ones that we

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were looking at, and I was like, Hey, sorry to

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ruin the surprise, but we're replacing your AirPods with headphones

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for your birthday, and I want to make sure. Here's

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two that are that are researched, and I want to

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know which ones you like the look of better. Yeah,

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And she freaked out and she was like, oh my god.

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She was like the Sony ones. Those are the exact

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ones I've been wanting. And she's like those that's it.

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I can't believe this, Like wow. So she's super excited.

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Oh that's so cute, and I felt like, better find

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off on it, right, Oh, I gotta do for her birthday,

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and then possibly I'm going to offer to pay for

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her plane ticket to go to the race to Oregon.

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Where's she going in Oregon. She's going to University of

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Oregon to go visit somebody. Okay, nice, Yeah, that's great. Oh,

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I also have the twins. And then you have the

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twins birthday. Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to

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do for them. How old Sadie wants a tattoo? Did

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I tell you that? Yeah? Really, So Sadie's going to

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get a tattoo. Okay, it's going to be expensive, yeah,

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for her birthday, and then I don't know about Xander.

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Xander seems tough, like a tough one. And then for Christmas,

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then you have the Christmas Welby wants these really nice speakers,

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her djaying that she's, you know, going to be doing

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right if she sticks with it, that's that'll be cool.

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me the what she was sending me a few of

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them and debating whether to get them. And I know

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she doesn't have any money because as we discussed, her

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bank account balance is low. So that will be a surprise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't even thought about Christmas for these kids

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I'll get them little things. Sony's always the high I mean,

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it's all he's easy makeup and stuff like that. Sonny,

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shirts and stuff like that. I don't know, he's just

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maybe he'll come up with a concert or a sporting event.

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or something. Oh, maybe we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That'll be hard because Adam could probably

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get him into stuff like that, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he will tell me, like he'll he'll know

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like stuff that Adam can't get. So then I'll ask

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me tickets to a Laker game or something or not

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Laker game, but whatever, something like that. Yeah, he knows,

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we'll ask me, and then that'll be that.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever like, are you ever just looking on

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like Facebook and you just start you see stuff and

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you're like, oh, I'll buy that. That'll like be something

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for like Christmas and then you forget about it. Yes,

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all the time. It's like a week before Christmas and

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you're like.

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Speaker 2: What was that. Sometimes I'll take a screenshot of it.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Oh my god. My photos are littered with screenshots, screenshots.

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I think I'm gonna buy right right for people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny, I know only one I know, No, no,

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I do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I see things like, oh, he could use this screenshot. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm like, oh, I never even looked that up right right,

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It's like my job is done once I've taken the screenshot. Yes.

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Speaker 2: I do that with like documentaries too. When people are

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recommending shows and stuff, I'll take a screenshot of it,

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like on our Facebook page.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so speaking of So, somebody on our Facebook page

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talked about Don't Gate Brandon, and so I went and

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so it's like I said, so I talked about it

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last week, so hopefully people have seen it, so we're

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going to talk about it. There might be some spoil alerts,

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but so it's called Don't Date Brandon, and it's on

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Paramount Plus and also Amazon Prime, yeah, and YouTube.

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Speaker 3: My ears are fucking with me right now.

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Speaker 2: I feel like my voice is really high. No, because

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I've been having allergies. Anyway, Sorry, So I watched that. Okay,

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it's a three part episode, and it's basically it's it's

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this These two wives come together, two ex wives of

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this man named Brandon, who is a psychopath and just

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basically like is he's very good with technology, and he

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makes he's he marries this one woman, and he has

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this ex wife, and he has a daughter with the

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ex wife, a little little daughter, and so they have

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to communicate. So he tells the new wife, don't talk

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to my ex wife because she's she's nuts, and we're

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going to download this app, this parenting app, and that's

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how we're going to talk to her. And there'll be

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messages from the ex wife going, you know, you have

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to work around my schedule and being really super difficult,

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and the new wife's like wow, like she's crazy, and

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then the ex and then making it look like the

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ex wife is like stalking them, like just getting into

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their business. And so he gets like a restraining order

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against her, and he tells the new wife, don't ever

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reach out to her because then you'll violate the restraining

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order and blah.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: This goes on on Smart Smart right, So this this

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is going on for a while and then.

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Speaker 3: Then what happened so also these So then they bring the.

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Speaker 2: Ex wife on and she's like, I never I never

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done any of these things. He's creating this whole you know,

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uh conversations on the app between us that is not

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meep talking. So the what the new wife starts to

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get suspicious.

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Speaker 3: Now then there and there's this all this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Then there's another ex girlfriend that is like, uh like

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hitting on him and she sees it. She sees a

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message like who's this you know, Sydney chick. He's like, oh,

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I dated her in the past, and she just won't

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let it go. And she's like, well, do you know,

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does she know that you're were married? So she gets

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this random message like from some chick like you know,

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trying to hit on her husband. And she's like, well

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did you tell her that you're married now? And blah

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blah blah, and and he's like, I'm going to do

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you one better. I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get

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her arrested. I'm gonna go to her place and then

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he and then he leaves and he goes, he drives,

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she leaves it there. They live in Portland. He drives

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to Seattle, where this girl lives. He sends her a screenshop.

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Speaker 3: You went better. I'm gonna go see her.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see her in person and get her arrested.

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Speaker 3: Fuck you right, like like what?

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Speaker 2: So then she gets a picture of her being like

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this blonde girl getting arrested with the cop out and

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he's like, see she's getting arrested. Spoiler alert, that's from

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the internet. It's not real, like he's doing all these things.

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So the first two episodes is about these stories going

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back and forth and I'm just like, okay, gets there,

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Like they show that there's video surveillance of him like

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breaking into the house and stuff, and I'm like, what are.

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Speaker 3: They gonna get to?

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Speaker 2: I kept falling asleep, Like these girls were going back

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and forth.

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Speaker 3: They were kind of annoying.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how, and but they were just kind

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of just like they meet, then they joined forces, and

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now they're going to try and take the guy down.

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And now he's on the run and they can't find him.

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He at one point kidnaps his daughter and gets in

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the car with her and is driving, and the police

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are chased because now there's a like he's got a

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warrant out for his rest. Oh, also he's doing like

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financial fraud shit, like he's making up all these things

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with this company and like swindles money from this company.

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They talk to the cops about that. So now this

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guy's got a warrant out for his arrest. These two

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ex wives are after him, the financial police are, everybody's

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after him. He's missing. He gets his daughter, picks up

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his daughter. Now there's like a police chase with the

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daughter in the car. The daughter is texting with her

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mom saying like sos, like he's on the run. The

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cops are chasing us, and she's twelve years old in

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the car, and the cops pulled back because of the

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because he was driving erratically with the kid in the car.

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So then he drops her off at some restaurant pizzeria,

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gives her him ten bucks for a piece of pizza,

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and then leave. So now like the daughter's traumatize and

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it's just basically.

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Speaker 3: This whole story.

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Speaker 2: And then then in the third episode that's when they

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show so anybody that's seen this okay. There's a video

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camera in the bedroom. She puts up video cameras outside

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of the house and in her bedroom. She has a

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guy friend come to spend the night with her. So

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because she's scared, all her friends are checking in on

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her because he's like harassing her. He's like, first of all,

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he's threatening to kill himself. He's already been, he's threatened

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to kill himself. He's already been like on the run

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with his daughter. He's dangerous. So they're doing all these

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check ins with her and her friends every hour to

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see she's okay. She has a guy friend come. They're

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in the bedroom. There's a bottle of vodka next to

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the bed.

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Speaker 3: She's laying.

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Speaker 2: You could see her laying like with her hand on

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her head. She's laying with her with her heads at

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where your feet are at the bed, and the guy

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is laying in her bed with his head at the headboard,

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so they're lying that way, so you can only see

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the back of her head. All of a sudden, this guy,

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he thinks he cuts the security cameras, but he doesn't,

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so you see him coming into the bedroom with a

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gun and a light a flash like pointing at the guy.

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He walks into the bedroom. She barely flinches, like she

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kind of just looks up and then puts her head

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back down on her hand, like not surprised somebody fucking

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walks into your bedroom. I had to rewind that somebody

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walks into your bedroom with a fucking gun and a

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flashlight at the guy's head, you're gonna fucking jump up,

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like she's just kind of laying there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if she was drunk or what, but

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that was weird to me.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, He's like, he gets like he's he gets into

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it like a tussle with her. He grabs her, he

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puts her in a headlock and they're fighting, and then

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the guy gets the guy fo her friend. Guy gets

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on top of him, gives him like a choke hold

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and knocks him out, put him unconscious. Then the police come,

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then he's arrested. And then the point of the thing

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is you think it's going to be a better documentary,

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no wonder. It's like on Paramount, it wasn't that great.

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It was just another story of a psycho guy with

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these two wives. And then they come together and they

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do a podcast about him, and now they show him

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you know, being in the in the interrogation room with

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the cops and they're just like, you know, they're like, well,

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he's telling a whole different story about what happened in

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the bedroom, and they're like, well, what if we told

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you that you didn't cut the cameras and we have

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video of you and what you did. It turns out

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the gun was a taser gun. Turns out he had

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he had duct tape like inside of his jacket so

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that he could easily grab it, and he had zip ties.

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He had a crossboat, like he was planning on kidnapping

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the white and raping her and like possibly killing her.

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And later they found like ammonia and she found like

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ammonia stuff and bleach in her garage that she didn't

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put there. It could have been worse, so this guy

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could have probably killed end up killing her. But the

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two wives, the ex wives, get together and they do

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a podcast and blah blah blah.

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477
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Speaker 3: Hey so this podcast that these so okay, I don't

478
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000
have Paramount plus and I didn't know about the whole

479
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:07,079
times on YouTube thing. So one of our listeners was like,

480
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:09,920
you know, they have they tell the story in more

481
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,680
detail on their on this podcast called ex Wives, Undercover, Liars,

482
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,839
Cheaters and Love Cons. So I'm like, okay, let me

483
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,680
go check this out. Listen no offense to the person

484
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,759
who recommended it, not for me. I started listening to

485
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,599
it and I was like, what, there's a lot of episodes.

486
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,640
So then I realized there's six seasons. Yeah, I just

487
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,759
saw that these women and the picture is so funny.

488
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:42,039
They're they're very blonde. Yes, they look kind of alike too. Yeah,

489
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,160
well I guess the guy had a type. Yeah. So

490
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,599
they're they're super blonde, very made up, and they're looking

491
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,680
at the camera like, yeah, we're tough for detectives. Yeah,

492
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,079
so hey, good for them, more power to them. But

493
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,279
they're also like super southern. So right away I was like,

494
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,480
you know, and then and then he did, Okay, So

495
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,240
I start listening to an episode and it's not the

496
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,519
story about the guy. So then I have to go

497
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,279
look through the seasons, and I realized season one is

498
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,759
like a bear story. Okay, yeah, okay, Oh my god,

499
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,440
it is so drawn out. I started listening to it

500
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:23,000
and I was like okay, or like, yes, you have

501
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,759
to hear about each of their whole backgrounds, and that's

502
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,720
how the documentary was. Yeah, and I was like, get

503
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,920
to those, get to it. Does it need to be

504
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,599
three episodes? No, And there's a lot of like ohkay,

505
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,079
and then when we met, like he said this to you,

506
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,799
but he said this to me, but then I found

507
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,720
out oh yeah, and he oh, and don't forget there's

508
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,079
a lot of that. Yeah, this toory was not succinctly told.

509
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,160
It didn't have a good narrative arc right to keep

510
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,680
my attention.

511
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't listen to their story, So I

512
00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:59,680
did you listened.

513
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,319
Speaker 3: To the whole thing? I listened to a lot. I

514
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,079
listened to many episodes because I just sort of kept

515
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,880
going and then it would go to the next one.

516
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,759
But then, yeah, so I didn't I didn't really even

517
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:11,599
get to the part where he broke into the house.

518
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,799
I was getting to the part with like I heard

519
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:19,079
about his the ex wife and the latest wife they

520
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,680
did to her, and all the lies I knew they

521
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,559
there's it's spoiler from the beginning, they tell you like

522
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,599
we both were married to this guy who turned out

523
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:31,480
to be like a psycho, right right. But then I

524
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,720
was like, Okay, I'm not going to finish this podcast

525
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,759
because I just can't. I just don't like it. I

526
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:40,440
don't like I don't like it. Yeah, so I unfollow it.

527
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,559
But somehow, I guess because I've searched it. I was

528
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,200
listening to another podcast that I'm going to recommend to you,

529
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,200
and every time an episode ended, they it would pop

530
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,680
back up. Have you ever had that happen? So all

531
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,960
of a sudden, I'm like coming up on Xlow Takes

532
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:59,640
Club and I was like, wait, I thought I got

533
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,920
rid of the They're still following you. That's the worst.

534
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:09,079
Now they're stalking me right right now. Start a detective

535
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:13,319
agency and you to like find out why they keep stalking.

536
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: You, yes, like get them off your back. Oh god,

537
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,799
I don't know. I mean maybe people enjoyed it. I

538
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,200
just I just found it very like daunting and just

539
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,559
just you know, too much background about them, Like just

540
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,039
get to the point you know, like dateline, like they'll

541
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,160
do you know, they lived in this beautiful town, a

542
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,079
small town of only a population of two thousand people,

543
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:36,880
and blah blah blah.

544
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: You know, they do a little bit of that.

545
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: Fast forward, like I don't need to know the town,

546
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:41,680
what kind of town they live in.

547
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 3: Remember we've talked about this before, but remember when we

548
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,759
both used to watch The City Confidential because it was

549
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,599
it was American Homicide. What was the show that we

550
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,759
both really liked with Bill Curtis, Oh yeah, American Justice.

551
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,680
American Justice. Yes. So they also had another one that

552
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,240
was the same company. It was A and E and

553
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:05,200
it was City Confidential, which was American Justice, but with

554
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,960
a lot of talk about the city right. And I'd

555
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,039
always be like, oh my god, I don't need fifteen minutes.

556
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,559
I'm not the city right.

557
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 2: They always do that, but least Data Late Line keeps

558
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,200
it to like four minutes, right, you know. It's just

559
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400
like there's just too much just I don't know. It

560
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640
was just kind of I kept falling asleep, to be honest.

561
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:27,160
Then I had to wake up and go, Okay, where

562
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,960
did I leave off? Where did I It just was

563
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,440
like just get to the point the third episode was

564
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,480
the most interesting because they had the video of everything, right,

565
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160
but it's like, Okay, we get it. He was an

566
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,160
asshole and he you know, conned the two of you.

567
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,799
Speaker 3: Which I think the problem is there's such a glut

568
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200
of things about like con men, right, Like there is

569
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,480
all these guys that are like up to no good,

570
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,759
right trying.

571
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: To Yeah, go on Netflix and watch one of those

572
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,960
those are you know?

573
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: Those are better? Speaking of Netflix, I forgot to tell

574
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,279
you that.

575
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,119
Speaker 2: I I was like, I just needed something to watch

576
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,960
at the gym. H.

577
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: My new thing is just watching like documentaries at the gym. Yeah,

578
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,960
and I rewatched Okay, is it called American Nightmare. It's

579
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,559
the one with the Chris.

580
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Watts, Chris Watts and the two daughters. I just rewatched

581
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,720
Shane and Shane, And that's a good documentary. It is

582
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:25,480
with that guy Chris Watts. How he's so like, I

583
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,079
don't know what's going on. Oh and when he went

584
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:31,000
to the neighbor's house, yes, and the neighbor.

585
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: Was like, Dude, this guy's acting weird.

586
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:33,359
Speaker 2: Yes.

587
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: I love that. It's like, you, guys, can you hang

588
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,319
back after he leaves? You gotta talk to you about something? Right,

589
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,480
low key yeah. And then he's like, yeah, this guy,

590
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:45,799
I don't he doesn't normally like bring stuff out to

591
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,279
his truck, and he did, and the cops are like,

592
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,119
I don't know. That sounds kind of normal, right me?

593
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:51,400
Uh huh yes.

594
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: And then he was like on Good Morning America out

595
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:56,720
front talking about is why I'm really worried about my wife?

596
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: Yes, just what associates? Come home? Just really come home? Yeah,

597
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,200
that was that is a good documentary. So then he

598
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:09,240
turns out to be seeing this yoga instructor. It was like,

599
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,880
not that cute. Jnan is like really a lot cuter

600
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,440
than yeah, right right, Okay, So then that led me

601
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,680
to what rewatching? And there's no need There was no

602
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,119
need for me to rewatch this, but I was just

603
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,519
like home at watching Netflix and I'm like, I'm gonna

604
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,920
watch this Scott Peterson memory again.

605
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,119
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, what the fuck that guy is so guilty.

606
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that anybody. And what's his name? Who?

607
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,720
We love? Gara Goes, Gara Goes. He's so kind of

608
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,759
smartmy when he talks about this case. And I'm telling you,

609
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,119
we do love him, but he is such he's such

610
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,079
a shmoozy. Yes, yes, stuff he brings up, it's like,

611
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200
oh my god, are you kidding me? Right now? They

612
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680
go through all the stuff they find with Scott Peterson,

613
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,519
he's such a liar with the boat that he just

614
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
happened to buy that he didn't tell anybody about because

615
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,599
he wanted it to be a surprise, and they're like

616
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,759
a surprise for whom and he goes, oh, surprise for

617
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,799
the father in law. The father in law, and then

618
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,599
they go like the father in law was like, why

619
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,279
would he give a ship that you bought a boat?

620
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,559
He doesn't care. And then he had the story about

621
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,000
how he went fishing, but then he told somebody else

622
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,319
that he was golfing. Remember, Yeah, could not keep his

623
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:31,319
story straight. And then do you remember that when they

624
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:36,359
were they were looking, he drove out to the marina

625
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:40,200
when he felt, oh yeah, drove that whole trip again

626
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,000
to just check and make sure they hadn't found something, right,

627
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,519
they were the police retailing him. He was acting so shifty.

628
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:54,039
But they came out with that podcast or whatever that

629
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400
was like, but no, but the neighbors had had that

630
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,799
house broken into. Oh yeah, cross, which is true, and

631
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:03,039
I had nothing to fucking do with anything. Yeah, I

632
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:06,559
mean it was like and then the Amber fry coming out,

633
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,079
Oh how about I know I'm in Paris, It's New

634
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,280
Year's Eve. That's so crazy. I'm having such a great trip.

635
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,440
And she already fucking knows. She's on the phone with

636
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,760
this guy going oh really and remember her.

637
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,079
Speaker 2: Voice, Yes, she had that like baby what yeah, Oh,

638
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,199
what are you gonna do for me when you get home?

639
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: And he's like, I love so into you Amber. Yeah,

640
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,039
I lost my wife. But first he tells her, I

641
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,280
got to I have to tell you something, like because

642
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,760
his friend finds out that he's dating the girl and

643
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,760
he's like, he's married, tells the friend and then her

644
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,960
friend is like, dude, this guy's married. So then she

645
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,400
confronts him and he goes, yeah, I really needed to

646
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239
tell you, like, but I lost my wife. Uh huh

647
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,719
she died right. So then later when she's like, oh,

648
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960
but I loved when she was on the phone with him,

649
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,400
and she's like, I find you said you lost your wife.

650
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:07,719
How did you lose your wife before she actually went missing? Right?

651
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 2: Wasn't that when she was being FBI was recording her.

652
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,679
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, she was taught she knew something was up.

653
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,880
She went to the police and she's like, thank god,

654
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,480
she told me he lost his wife. But that was

655
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,400
like weeks ago before she actually went missing.

656
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was thanks to her. He got caught pretty much,

657
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:25,840
and he.

658
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: Went fit supposedly fishing with the boat. Didn't whatever it was,

659
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,119
he didn't have something that you would have needed for

660
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,519
the actual fishing or fishing.

661
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 2: He didn't have that with him. It was something about

662
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:43,000
the ankor he made anchors, made those anchors cement anchers. Yeah,

663
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:46,559
and then they find the bodies exactly where he said

664
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,679
he went right fishing, right, And now we're supposed to

665
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,400
believe that like Garago's new trial, right, I mean, the

666
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,559
Innocence Project is trying to get him off.

667
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: Last I heard, it's probably not. You know, there's an

668
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,239
this is going to lead to another thing we want

669
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,679
to talk about. But there's the Innocence Project that actually

670
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,840
is the progressive trying to get people who have been

671
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:17,000
wrongfully right convicted exonerated. There's another one, there's a different

672
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,360
innocence LA base that is way more like Republican. And

673
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,840
you know who's into it is Emily from oc Housewife.

674
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,519
Oh right, that's her. That project. That's her project. It's

675
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:33,280
not the actual it's not the real project, the different one.

676
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,599
It's a spinoff. Interesting, I didn't know that. It's not

677
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,679
the one that they get like volunteers, like law school students,

678
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,719
right right, it's not the good one.

679
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,639
Speaker 2: So let's talk about OC sure real quick. So the

680
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,679
season was so fucking boring.

681
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,079
Speaker 3: All the way through, right, totally.

682
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: I can't stand Camera, She's just the worst. And then

683
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,480
there's Gretchen, who I can't stand either. So now we're

684
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,079
watching these to idiots fight the whole time, and you

685
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,519
give either Shannon, Oh you don't, well Shannon Madore, Yeah, why,

686
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,119
well she's she's.

687
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Just awful and whiny and just like she I mean,

688
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,559
she's not I'm me an alcoholic. Can I get a

689
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,280
belvetyre instead of yeah yeah yeah with a line?

690
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nobody. It's like that show. They need to

691
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,360
revamp that show. Yeah, you know. So then at the

692
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,039
end of the season, but you know, I like Heather Debro,

693
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,880
I know, yes, well when they did the Trevor Project episode,

694
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,880
that was really nice.

695
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: I like that. Yes, she bugged me for a long time,

696
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,719
but now it's like, totally understand why she's got like

697
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,920
several kids. She's fighting the good. She has a trans

698
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,960
son who's the same age as my kid. I got

699
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,199
to hand it to her. She almost uses every episode.

700
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: To she's fighting the good fight for sure. Yes, yeah,

701
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,880
so then you know, then the end of the episode,

702
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,199
they they come to find out shockingly like it didn't

703
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,880
surprise me.

704
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have surprised to any right.

705
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:09,159
Speaker 2: That Maga Barbie Gretchen is like liking horrible anti trans posts. Yeah,

706
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:13,159
And I was just like, what the fuck? And so

707
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,679
then I was like watching I can't wait for the reunion,

708
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,679
but I was watching like some bunch of YouTubers talking

709
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,199
about it, and then they're trying to spin it where

710
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,119
Tamar by the way, Todombala fatch this one. She's got

711
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,559
a lot of fucking nerve. She's got a son who

712
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,360
is outrageously fucking al right against trance.

713
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: Like horrible, Like she's what is she talking about?

714
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,599
Speaker 2: Jesus loves the gay. He's like, what the fuck? Like

715
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,440
she's got a lot of fucking nerve. I don't know

716
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,840
why nobody ever says that, and like why don't they

717
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,159
call her out too, Like you got a lot of nerve?

718
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,639
Speaker 3: So years ago, her son Ryan went on this crazy

719
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,119
you know, he's just a drug addict, criminal domestic violence

720
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,559
against his ex, you know, broke her hand or something,

721
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:04,920
you know, shocking, but he went on this diatribe about

722
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,199
like murdering trans people. Oh god. But he at the

723
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,239
same time, there was another thing that he went on

724
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,679
a diatribe about, which was about a story that was

725
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,599
like from the sun, like the you know whatever British

726
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:25,440
tabloid about a woman who whose kid was five and

727
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,840
they transitioned. So he was going like what the fuck,

728
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:33,360
like crazy, and Tama responded to that and was like, yeah,

729
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,639
that's really sad. That's way too young. Okay. But then

730
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:42,440
he also like separately tweeted a crazy thing about that

731
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,880
again what I said before. So Tama posts and she's like,

732
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:53,239
I am horrified by his thing. I don't agree with

733
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,639
that or whatever. But she had already she did something

734
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:58,639
else that he said, okay, so then she had to

735
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,840
go like, now regarding my other comment, like that was

736
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,800
just me being a concerned mom, like you know, so

737
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,639
she kind of didn't really change her views exactly, Like

738
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,159
she didn't educate herself, right, It really rubs me the

739
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,639
wrong way. Her whole thing is like I do not

740
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,480
stand with my son on that. That's horrible, Like that's

741
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,199
not how I believe right yet, But she dident it

742
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,599
about like, yeah, that's so sad. That's way too young,

743
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,119
you know.

744
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: Right right now, it's like now they're trying to say

745
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,440
that that by the way, Gretchen's the way she responded

746
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,800
when they like, what did you think of her reaction

747
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,400
when they confronted her, I was like, oh, yeah, she's

748
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,599
totally like she's didn't even try to defend.

749
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: She didn't.

750
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: She just was like, what I don't understand. I need

751
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,679
to see what you're talking about. Yeah, give me a

752
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,559
fucking break, you know what they're talking about.

753
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: Then she's like, that's crazy. I didn't I've never even

754
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,880
seen that before. Then Gina in the sprinter van is like,

755
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,880
well she does follow those accounts. Remember when Gina goes, well,

756
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,079
I can't find the actual post that you liked, because

757
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,599
why because Slade went and unliked her unlow she sent

758
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,840
him all the screenshots right right, wow. But now dumb

759
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,079
people are like, well, she's like, I think Tamra did

760
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:21,480
this to me. I think, you know, that's the whole thing.

761
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,119
They think Tamra was behind it because Tamra talked to

762
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,280
some bloggers and leaked right episode, leeaked what was going

763
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,280
to happen in the season, right, so Tamra, which I

764
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,280
don't like any of them obviously, but Tamra was like, okay, yeah, sure.

765
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,679
So in twenty twenty three, where like a lot of

766
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,039
these likes were from, I was able to see into

767
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,360
the future and know that Gretchen was going to come back.

768
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:53,480
That was really the long cone exactly two years prior.

769
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:57,719
I was liking posts and also the posts that she liked.

770
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,199
Some of them were pretty egregious. But some of them

771
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840
are just right wing talking points right right, like if

772
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,159
you're going to frame.

773
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Somebody for shitty likes, deal a little better. Of them

774
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
are like kind of just things that like.

775
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Republicans say right right, like gender ideology, like they're

776
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,960
teaching kids they can choose their gender in elementary school.

777
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,519
These democrats have gone crazy. I'm out, Yeah, Like, I

778
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:23,719
don't think you would choose that one to go like,

779
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:27,039
oh this will get that's true. That is true, Yeah,

780
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,800
that makes sense. You would choose much worse things. All

781
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,639
of them were worse, right, saying, like right, if if

782
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:36,960
the ones that are not that egregious are liked. I

783
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,599
think we can believe that the worst ones are.

784
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: Also like exactly exactly. Yeah, so did you find those

785
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,199
posts on Reddit? How do you find those posts? All

786
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
the things that she thretened in? Yeah, just look it

787
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,320
up on run reddit. Just go look at just look

788
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,480
up transphobic posts.

789
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: I looked it up.

790
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see a whole all the screenshops. Yeah, it's

791
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:06,920
like Matt Walsh blog, which is just gross, right I

792
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:12,000
saw that. Yeah, yeah, it's it's like she's so dumb.

793
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:13,920
She is the dumbest.

794
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: She's just like she's just like Jesus, you know, against

795
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,320
this what I don't know, right, I don't think it's

796
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,239
and what do you think you believe it all that

797
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,639
she did that? If Heather Debro was accused of that,

798
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,960
or if even if it was like Gina or anybody else,

799
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,960
you'd be like somebody made the comment, like if it

800
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,679
was Lisa Rinna, like I don't.

801
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Think no, no, no, but it's Gretchen. It's Gretchen, right,

802
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,760
come on, she's not trying.

803
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: To pretend to be anything else, right, So now she's

804
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,199
gonna come with receipts and ship on the reunion. I

805
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,360
can't wait. So she's not going to have any receipts.

806
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,519
I can't wait. Very easy to go back and just

807
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:57,480
unlike stuff. Of course, right, we'll look up those accounts.

808
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:58,719
Go go look at.

809
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:03,519
Speaker 2: The Clearly Slade did that overnight while they were in Amsterdam.

810
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: That's why the next is right right, Yeah, I think

811
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,480
he did it. This is what I think happened. I

812
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:13,239
think that the night before how she had been crying

813
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,000
all night. Yeah, I think that she knew this was

814
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:19,679
going to come out, and she knew. So Slade unliked

815
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,639
stuff then, but wasn't smart enough to just unfollow the accounts, right,

816
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:25,079
what a dumb ass.

817
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: So when she got called out and they realized she

818
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:30,159
was still following the accounts, then she had to try

819
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,360
to come up with a strategy for se right. Wow,

820
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:40,079
that's so crazy. They need a revamp at fucking OC. Yeah,

821
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,760
just just blow them all up. Okay, before we go,

822
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,519
I have a recommendation.

823
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:51,679
Speaker 3: Yes, for a podcast, you kind of you have to

824
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,480
pay for it, but I just I just paid for

825
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:56,920
it for one month, okay, and then you can like

826
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:02,599
unfollow or whatever. But it's called Beth Dead, okay, Okay,

827
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:06,800
and it's just look up Beth, Beth found it, Beth's dead,

828
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,519
got it.

829
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: And you can decide listen to the first there's two

830
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
episodes that are out that are free, okay, and if

831
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,000
you want to listen to the rest of the season,

832
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,960
which I was just like, fuck, I gotta know how

833
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,639
this ends.

834
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't lay Monica of We know I'm not

835
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,880
a huge Dax fan, but whatever. Monica is his producer.

836
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,440
So she made a podcast about a podcast that apparently

837
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,639
goes way back precedes us even It was called Totally Lame.

838
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: I want to.

839
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:42,159
Speaker 3: Say l A. I M okay. This woman Elizabeth Lame

840
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,639
I think her name is, and her husband Andy, and

841
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,880
they had this podcast together and Monica was a big

842
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,679
fan of this podcast, and then she had another one

843
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:54,599
that was like a spin off to that after she

844
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,920
had a kid called like totally Mommy something so totally

845
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,920
lame and then Totally Mommy and talked about like life

846
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:09,039
as a mom or whatever. And Monica was upset because

847
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:13,239
their podcasts like abruptly kind of stopped and then there's

848
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:19,519
a story behind, like a scary thing happened, weird wow,

849
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,039
fan of the podcast, and I was like Lynette and

850
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:30,719
I similar experience. Really just somebody that became like really

851
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,000
obsessed with the podcast or a social relationship and things

852
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:38,280
get real fucked up. Oh my god, I can't. I'm

853
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,000
gonna listen on the way home. It's really good. And

854
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:44,360
you know how normally we don't love.

855
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: We don't love when there's a lot of like backumble background,

856
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,519
but you're gonna like it on this one because they're

857
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,920
just good broadcasters and it's interesting, okay.

858
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 3: And you kind of want all the backstory.

859
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: And the girl whose podcast it was just tells a

860
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,039
lot about kind of where she was in her life

861
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:04,719
during that time.

862
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,679
Speaker 3: She does a lot of the responding to the fan.

863
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,880
And they have a whole like web page. I mean

864
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,719
it was way back, so it was sort of like

865
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,719
when you first started the parent experiment instead of like

866
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,000
a Facebook group had web page. Yeah, I rememberould go

867
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,519
on there, and at one point they had like thousands

868
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,079
of they would answer listener questions. So they play all

869
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:31,320
these clips in episode one of them giving advice and

870
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,239
then they talk about like do they stand by that advice.

871
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,639
It's very good.

872
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,039
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait. I trust your opinion. Yeah, I'm

873
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,280
going to listen, so you can just like buy the season.

874
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,639
Speaker 3: I will will Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I'm excited,

875
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,760
got me, I'm excited. All right. Before we go, we

876
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:59,199
have one more shout from last week, which was maybe

877
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,360
we did them all? Did we do them? Woll okay?

878
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,039
So the ones that we do every episode holder Wide Foundation,

879
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:10,639
you guys in honor of the Borderline shooting boys who

880
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:15,039
were killed. And our friend Heather Hoyt, who I love

881
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,199
and her daughter were friends with that family and so

882
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,039
they are. They've helped with this foundation and they do

883
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:27,280
a thing and it's holder Wide dot org. Go read

884
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
about it. Yeah. And Adam Learner. Adam can get you

885
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,559
a car. He's a car broker. Adam's got a car

886
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,440
dot com. You know what to do. You've heard that

887
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,480
ad a lot of times. So check them out.

888
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: And Mike, if you need plumbing, go to UH Drained

889
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890
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give you a nice discount and I'll help you with

891
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,000
plumbing issues.

892
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, check them out. All right? All right, everybody, thank you.

893
00:48:55,559 --> 00:49:00,199
You're a parent. Now, don't f it up. It's I

894
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:02,760
think that ankles