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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, gooday, everybody, Good morning. Hi Cole, how's it going?
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Speaker 1: Talk about talk about porn and.
Speaker 3: Being gay, slots on camera and all that that entails.
Speaker 3: We are here on the on the the aftermath of
Speaker 3: a very weird night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta say, I'm not that surprised.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess I went into it thinking I don't like
Speaker 1: it could happen again, and it will.
Speaker 3: For those of you who don't know we're talking about
Speaker 3: we're talking about Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilt and I'm
Speaker 3: just kidding, we're talking about the elections. This is the
Speaker 3: morning after the elections, the time of this recording, and
Speaker 3: you know, tensions are I don't know, I feel that
Speaker 3: at this point. It's like I was really panic leading
Speaker 3: up to it, and now I'm kind of like.
Speaker 2: You know, what it happened. I'm just like it happened.
Speaker 3: At this point, we just have to take care of
Speaker 3: ourselves and each other and hope nothing horrible goes wrong
Speaker 3: and just hold on for the crazy ass ride. We've
Speaker 3: been there once, you know, we've been there. Yeah, jeez, AnyWho.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We thought it was like the worst
Speaker 1: thing then too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, the stakes felt higher this time. But I mean,
Speaker 3: whatever here we are.
Speaker 1: They actually hire or is it where we made to
Speaker 1: feel that?
Speaker 2: I don't even care enough to talk about it.
Speaker 4: We have.
Speaker 3: What I care about is our is our very handsome
Speaker 3: guest who I've been wanting to get on this podcast
Speaker 3: for a while and I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: Please everybody welcome Davy Wavy. Hi, Davy. Hey, can you
Speaker 2: hear us?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, you sound great.
Speaker 3: You sound great, You look great. Tell us about this
Speaker 3: background right now? Well, it's my living room, your living
Speaker 3: room where I feel like in Rhode Island.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's giving cabin.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very rustic.
Speaker 4: This is my little highway away from you know, all
Speaker 4: the excitement of filming gay porn.
Speaker 5: I just kind of hang out here with my cat.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you still have your palm Springs home? Too?
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: I sold it a couple of years ago. So I'm
Speaker 4: here in Rhode Island full time.
Speaker 5: My family's nearby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them. You're from Rhode Island.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Most of the people that I love are out here,
Speaker 4: and yeah, just kind of it feels important to stay
Speaker 4: grounded and connected with them.
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been having a lot of conversations
Speaker 3: lately with people where I feel like, as we you know,
Speaker 3: enter our forties and beyond, a lot of people are
Speaker 3: very future minded about where they want to plant themselves.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been hearing a lot of people
Speaker 3: leaving Los Angeles, leaving San Francisco, moving closer to family,
Speaker 3: or going to places where they can actually afford property.
Speaker 5: Totally. Yeah, I own this house like it's in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Also, like there are parts of Los Angeles, aspects of
Speaker 4: Los Angeles that I loved. I just never felt and
Speaker 4: this might be more on me than Los Angeles, but
Speaker 4: I never found my tribe. I never found my people there.
Speaker 4: And on weekends I would go to Palm Springs, which is,
Speaker 4: you know, an older crowd, more kind of like the
Speaker 4: Bearer community.
Speaker 5: People who eat food that was. That was definitely more
Speaker 5: my cup of tea. So that was kind of my
Speaker 5: gradual move from.
Speaker 1: Oh, well that was your problem and going to Palm
Speaker 1: Springs every weekend. Of course you're not going to find
Speaker 1: your tribe in La if you got a Palm Springs
Speaker 1: every weekend.
Speaker 3: Well, and also, if from what I'm hearing is correct,
Speaker 3: you hang out with people who don't eat food. Is
Speaker 3: that what you're saying Los Angeles? Your Los Angeles experience
Speaker 3: was that was my.
Speaker 5: Los Angeles experience? Yeah, very much so. Yeah, so it
Speaker 5: was not it was not my cup of tea.
Speaker 2: How long did you live here?
Speaker 5: A couple of years.
Speaker 4: But like, I'm more of a nature guy, Like I
Speaker 4: don't drink, I don't party, like I don't go to bars.
Speaker 4: I'm really boring. I'm boring and very much an old soul.
Speaker 4: So Palm Springs is a better fit, but Rhode Island
Speaker 4: even better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Where in the state are you?
Speaker 4: Like? It's so small, doesn't really have parts. People always
Speaker 4: ask that, and I'm like, well.
Speaker 2: They're like, none of your business. Actually I don't need
Speaker 2: you to come and looking for me.
Speaker 4: No, it's more than it's like it's thirty minutes across
Speaker 4: the state. So I'm kind of just like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: near Providence, as every place in Rhode Island is.
Speaker 3: What was it like growing up in Rhode Island or
Speaker 3: in your part of Rhode Island.
Speaker 5: I really like it here.
Speaker 4: I know it's not cool to like really love the
Speaker 4: place that you grew up in. But it has beaches,
Speaker 4: it's close to the mountains if you like to ski.
Speaker 4: We have four seasons. It's a progressive community relatively speaking.
Speaker 4: And there's a really great food scene here in Providence.
Speaker 4: A lot of universities here, so there's like this really
Speaker 4: cool creative culture.
Speaker 5: It's not a bad place. It's actually really.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Rhode Island?
Speaker 2: I have been, right, Yeah, I've been through.
Speaker 3: On a road trip, I stopped in Providence and it
Speaker 3: was beautiful from what I remember.
Speaker 5: What did you do in Providence?
Speaker 2: I was with.
Speaker 3: Family, so we just kind of like bopped around and
Speaker 3: looked at sites and ate food and then does.
Speaker 1: It look like does it look like Provincetown.
Speaker 4: No, there's parts of it that do. But Providence is
Speaker 4: like a small city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bigger than Province Town certainly, right, Like from
Speaker 3: my memory, it's more of a city than it is
Speaker 3: a little beachside cape.
Speaker 5: Yah.
Speaker 2: A million people here, a million? Wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I keep every time I hear Providence, I think
Speaker 3: of a thirty Rock line where Queen Latifa says she
Speaker 3: she plays like the mayor of Providence or something, or
Speaker 3: or the governor Rhode Island. Queen Latifa in one episode
Speaker 3: of thirty Rock, and she's talking like in her like
Speaker 3: politician voice about Providence. And she's like, and we also
Speaker 3: have a flourishing, thriving Italian criminal community.
Speaker 2: Is that actually true?
Speaker 5: Very very true? Yeah, it was like the mod headquarters
Speaker 5: in New England.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: It's also very Catholic. So like when I grew up,
Speaker 4: I went to Catholic high school. I went to an
Speaker 4: all boys school.
Speaker 2: But were you Catholic or your family?
Speaker 5: My family was Catholic. Yeah, that never got molested. Oh fortunately, yeah,
Speaker 5: was just too eager. They were like too bad.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I went through Catholic high school and we
Speaker 4: did like the Confessions and oh man, it was that
Speaker 4: was a lot to go through.
Speaker 2: But you know, did you struggle as like a young
Speaker 2: gay boy.
Speaker 4: I did, Like there were so many instances of being
Speaker 4: in like Catholic high school I remember this. We had
Speaker 4: to do it a confession every month, and I remember
Speaker 4: literally being in like a closet with this priest and like,
Speaker 4: you couldn't even write this. And you know, he had
Speaker 4: this big belly and he kind of had his hands
Speaker 4: up like this. And these priests when they do the confess,
Speaker 4: they're like in full drag.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: He has like the red slippers, the you know, the
Speaker 4: tunic with the gold embroidering, and and he's asking me
Speaker 4: to confess, and I said something about having like relations
Speaker 4: with the boy, and he was like he kind of
Speaker 4: just like perked right up and he was like, oh, well, well,
Speaker 4: what did you do? And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: think God probably knows what I did.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And he was like, well, a vague confession gets a
Speaker 4: vague forgiveness, so.
Speaker 5: You need to tell me the details. And I was like, this.
Speaker 3: Queen, Wow, a vague confession gets a vague forgiveness.
Speaker 2: He's used that line before the title.
Speaker 3: He has used that line to get more drama out
Speaker 3: of his.
Speaker 1: What do you call it confessions?
Speaker 4: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, And feel free to take that
Speaker 4: line and run with it.
Speaker 5: I know you, I like played priest before.
Speaker 3: I've played priest twice, and I've actually won an award
Speaker 3: for one of my performances as a priest, not the
Speaker 3: one you'd expect.
Speaker 1: I've never I always play like a like a guard
Speaker 1: or like a prison warden. You like, I I think
Speaker 1: I think I have. I think I'm playing a doctor
Speaker 1: later finally, Yeah, Like people always ask if I'm a
Speaker 1: doctor tattoo and they're like, oh, are you a doctor
Speaker 1: or nurse? I'm like, no, I'm also not a fucking
Speaker 1: koala and I point out my koala tattoo.
Speaker 2: You get very at this.
Speaker 1: I don't like people asking me about my tattoos. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's invasive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I played a I played a priest in
Speaker 3: one cocky Boys movie and it was.
Speaker 2: A very serious movie.
Speaker 3: And then I played a priest in a in a
Speaker 3: naked sword raging, stalling movie that was written by Jackie
Speaker 3: beat so it was a very jokey, silly like. I
Speaker 3: played a horny priest that was basically just trying to.
Speaker 1: Find the one that was trying to get a confession
Speaker 1: out of David.
Speaker 3: That was me.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh maybe it was.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was a scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Adam, you have the I think the emotional gravitas to
Speaker 4: like the spiritual weight right to play a priest.
Speaker 5: I think it's good casting.
Speaker 3: I think so it worked out great. I love that
Speaker 3: Cockyboys movie. I feel like that's some of my best
Speaker 3: work as an actor. I think actually some of my
Speaker 3: best work as an actor was in a Himorrhos movie
Speaker 3: as well. Journeys, which we can get into later, because
Speaker 3: I want to keep asking a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well. First of all, I do have a photo that
Speaker 2: I would like to pull up. Oh God, if you
Speaker 2: don't mind, Okay, this was.
Speaker 3: This was a screenshot from your first It's listed as
Speaker 3: your first ever YouTube video. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3: It is true, Davy, did you drink the potion? That's
Speaker 3: seventeen years ago? You look the absolute same. What is
Speaker 3: happening here?
Speaker 5: I don't know what's happening. I think it's because I
Speaker 5: don't drink and I go to bed early.
Speaker 2: That could do it? Are you well hydrated, well rested?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was That was in Washington, d C. I used
Speaker 4: to work at a nonprofit called Family Equality Council, which
Speaker 4: advocated for gay and lesbian parents, and I was their
Speaker 4: online marketing manager. And they gave me a webcam and
Speaker 4: so I went home and like played with it, and
Speaker 4: there was this new website called YouTube and I heard that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, let me make a video.
Speaker 4: And I think in the first couple of videos, I
Speaker 4: just talked about books that I was reading. I mean,
Speaker 4: they're terrible, like there's no editing, the sound is off.
Speaker 4: But it was like my seventh or eighth video. I
Speaker 4: had moved to Toronto for the summer and I looked
Speaker 4: out my window. My neighbor was jerking off and it
Speaker 4: turned out that he kind of in hindsight, I think
Speaker 4: he was like a webcam boy, but he every day
Speaker 4: at four o'clock he would jerk off, and I made
Speaker 4: a YouTube video about it, and for early YouTube, it
Speaker 4: went as viral.
Speaker 5: As a video could go back then launched my career.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you were.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like when people when I talk about
Speaker 3: you and my experience in Himorros, I always explain and
Speaker 3: tell me this is correct, that you were one of
Speaker 3: the earlier YouTube users who was able to monetize his content.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And well, and thank god I was early, because I
Speaker 4: wasn't good like it was. It was just kind of
Speaker 4: like the first person to arrive at the party. The
Speaker 4: first couple of years I did it, you couldn't even monetize.
Speaker 4: Google hadn't even bought YouTube yet. Once they did, they
Speaker 4: started running ads and that was a, you know, a
Speaker 4: big game changer. Of course, now people go in with
Speaker 4: the intention of making money. I just really wanted to
Speaker 4: document these experiences that I was having in life. And
Speaker 4: at first when people started following and commenting, I remember
Speaker 4: initially like turning the comments off and being like I
Speaker 4: don't want this, Like I didn't ask these people their opinion,
Speaker 4: what's going on here? And then realizing at some point, oh,
Speaker 4: like this is kind of there's an opportunity here, there's engagement,
Speaker 4: there's a community that's being built.
Speaker 1: What changed it for you where you like actually wanted
Speaker 1: to engage with the people.
Speaker 4: God this sounds so like righteous in earnest, but I realized,
Speaker 4: coming from this like nonprofit background, that I was.
Speaker 5: Reaching more people through my YouTube.
Speaker 4: Channel than I was through like the work that I
Speaker 4: was doing at this nonprofit. And I think I felt
Speaker 4: something of a responsibility to create content that contributed to
Speaker 4: this community. And initially my content wasn't particularly dirty. It
Speaker 4: was a lot about coming out of the closet talking
Speaker 4: to family and friends, which is as a twenty three
Speaker 4: year old, which I was in that picture. That's the
Speaker 4: stuff that I was navigating. As I got older, you know,
Speaker 4: into my thirties and forty one, now it became more
Speaker 4: interesting for me to talk about sex because that was
Speaker 4: the personal journey that I was on. So I guess
Speaker 4: I've just always made the content about the things that
Speaker 4: I was interested in.
Speaker 3: So it was essentially a video diary that you were
Speaker 3: just sharing with the world, and it caught on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and wasn't even a shirt with the world.
Speaker 4: I just thought in twenty years would be fun to
Speaker 4: look back and see where I was or what was
Speaker 4: important to me.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really how it turned out.
Speaker 1: Do you That just aspired a question for me, like,
Speaker 1: do you find that you became more sexual in your
Speaker 1: thirties than you were in your twenties.
Speaker 4: I think I was hornier in my twenties than I
Speaker 4: was in my thirties, but I think by my thirties
Speaker 4: I was like, God, there's got to be more to
Speaker 4: this than what's being presented. And I think I also
Speaker 4: started to become better equipped with the language to talk
Speaker 4: about sex and sexuality and what I was experiencing. There
Speaker 4: were a few things that happened, these kind of tantric
Speaker 4: experiences that opened the door a little bit, and I
Speaker 4: was like, fuck, Like, I think I'm gonna walk through
Speaker 4: and do this. It's YouTube. A lot of my audience
Speaker 4: was young, like teenage girls. They were like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're not here for this journey is what we signed
Speaker 4: up for, which is fine. I think I kind of
Speaker 4: augree them.
Speaker 3: But do you find it once you became a lot
Speaker 3: more open about the sexual side of things, that you
Speaker 3: kind of opened the door to a whole new audience.
Speaker 3: Did your audience grow, did it shrink? Did it take
Speaker 3: a while for that to hit? How did that process
Speaker 3: go for you?
Speaker 4: The audience definitely shifted, and it shifted older, it shifted
Speaker 4: more mail, shifted more queer. Now YouTube is a smaller
Speaker 4: piece of the puzzle for me. I still make content,
Speaker 4: but YouTube's also changed. The algorithms have changed, yea, how
Speaker 4: they measure engagement. It's all kind of a different cup
Speaker 4: of tea. And I'm totally at peace with the fact
Speaker 4: that I'm like, I'm on the other side of my
Speaker 4: relevancy curve on YouTube. But I think for the folks
Speaker 4: that are really interested in this content, it's still interesting
Speaker 4: for them to follow along and see behind the scenes
Speaker 4: of a Himorrhos film that we're making, or get like
Speaker 4: a producer's commentary for a scene that we released, or
Speaker 4: talk about what really happens and the role Trimex can
Speaker 4: play and how good sex might differ from what people
Speaker 4: see see on screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did you start Hemorrhos?
Speaker 4: We just celebrated the seventh anniversary. It feels longer than
Speaker 4: that because we for a lot of reasons, but we
Speaker 4: also started filming earlier than that so that I'd have
Speaker 4: a library of content to like.
Speaker 5: So when we launched, it wasn't like here's one video,
Speaker 5: maybe I'll make another.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's been like a probably eight and a
Speaker 4: half nine years.
Speaker 3: For our listeners who may not know, can you tell
Speaker 3: us what Hemorrhos is, what's the brand and kind of
Speaker 3: how it started?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: What's fucking funny is like I'm still terrible at talking
Speaker 4: about what Hemorrhos really is. Yeah, I am, because it's
Speaker 4: like there's a part of me that's like, Okay, the
Speaker 4: tagline we often use is like, Okay, it's like porn
Speaker 4: but better, and it's.
Speaker 5: Like, well, what the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 4: And a lot of times people will be like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like consciously created porn or mindful porn,
Speaker 4: or I've heard the term grass fed porn.
Speaker 2: I use the word intentional like that.
Speaker 3: That's a word that I use often to describe himros
Speaker 3: dot TV.
Speaker 1: Intentional about what.
Speaker 3: Just in what it's delivering and what it has to
Speaker 3: say about sexual connection.
Speaker 2: It's you know, a lot of the content.
Speaker 1: Does that have to say about about it? What are
Speaker 1: you intentionally trying to say about it?
Speaker 4: So, just to back up, when we film a project,
Speaker 4: we hire a sex coach and we'll go to usually
Speaker 4: a really remote location, will film twelve scenes and they're
Speaker 4: connected to some larger like kind of umbrella theme. So
Speaker 4: we just did a scene where we reimagined fairy tales
Speaker 4: through a queer lens. So we reclaimed a lot of
Speaker 4: the narratives through this gay, erotic lens. So with like
Speaker 4: Beauty and the Beast, instead of Belle going to the
Speaker 4: castle and being a victim of Stockholm syndrome and being
Speaker 4: subversive because she reads and then fucking a water buffalo.
Speaker 4: In our version, the boy goes to the castle and
Speaker 4: every time he passes a mirror, he sees a reflection
Speaker 4: of himself as the beast. So it's this idea that, like,
Speaker 4: the beast is not something else, but it's the shadow
Speaker 4: side of our own.
Speaker 5: Self, which we all have.
Speaker 4: And in the scene the beast steps through the mirror,
Speaker 4: they have this really intimate you know they fought they had.
Speaker 5: It's very beautiful.
Speaker 4: But the idea is that instead of running from your shadow,
Speaker 4: keeping it locked away, it's about integrating your shadow, learning
Speaker 4: from it. So each scene kind of has this message
Speaker 4: in it that we collaborate on with the sex and
Speaker 4: Intimacy coach, And even when we're filming, like each day
Speaker 4: starts with the workshop and the coach works with the
Speaker 4: models to help facilitate connections and to connect them with
Speaker 4: the content we're filming that day. I also get that
Speaker 4: for most models creating porn, they're not interested in that.
Speaker 4: It's like I just want to show up, I want
Speaker 4: to fuck, I want to get my check. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: is more about a willingness to go a little bit
Speaker 4: on a sexual.
Speaker 5: Journey of discovery.
Speaker 4: Sometimes stuff comes up for folks, it's kind of opening
Speaker 4: this door. But it's an opportunity to create something that
Speaker 4: maybe feels like it has a little bit of a message,
Speaker 4: or that might feel more authentic to the to the
Speaker 4: models and the scene. But again, it's not for everyone, right,
Speaker 4: but I think for people who are sick and tired
Speaker 4: of mainstream porn, it's a really great alternative.
Speaker 3: Do you find that there's a lot of vetting of
Speaker 3: the models before a project?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm really shitty at it.
Speaker 4: So, like I used to interview models for the scenes,
Speaker 4: and you get on the phone and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: like are you comfortable stepping into your authenticity on camera?
Speaker 5: Like is that going to be really fun for you?
Speaker 5: And everyone's just like oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh for sure, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can do that. That's really awesome.
Speaker 4: And then you get on set and you know, the
Speaker 4: exercise they do in the workshop is like eye gazing,
Speaker 4: and someone's like, I'm out, you know. So now we
Speaker 4: work through referrals. So if there's a model that we
Speaker 4: really like, like we just shot a scene with with
Speaker 4: Joonah Wheeler, and it's like, who's awesome, And it's like Jonah,
Speaker 4: hey do you have other people that you've worked with
Speaker 4: who you think would be receptive to this approach, who
Speaker 4: aren't going to roll their eyes when we do a
Speaker 4: workshop and they have to talk about their feelings, right,
Speaker 4: And that's been better.
Speaker 5: That's been a better process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you find the sex coach like
Speaker 1: that works with the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been pretty organic. We started with just a couple.
Speaker 4: There's all these like sacred intimates and tantric instructors. There's
Speaker 4: a handful of these folks kind of sprinkled throughout the
Speaker 4: country and they do workshops often through like Eastern Mountain
Speaker 4: and Upstate York or the Body Electric School. Some of
Speaker 4: them have their own practices and they are also really
Speaker 4: connected with one another and will sometimes refer me to
Speaker 4: someone else or because we've been doing this for a while.
Speaker 4: Like Don Shein, who does a lot of projects with
Speaker 4: the Body Electric School, he reached out to me and
Speaker 4: he was like, Hey, you know, I'm a rounder guy,
Speaker 4: I'm a furrier guy. I have this idea of shooting
Speaker 4: a project at a gay campground. It was really fundamental
Speaker 4: to me coming into my own skin as a younger guy,
Speaker 4: and I would like to write some scenes that we
Speaker 4: could film, and I was like, yeah, let's chat about it,
Speaker 4: and then we filmed that over the summer out in
Speaker 4: rural Missouri at Serenity Farms campground.
Speaker 3: I've worked with him ros I want to say, like
Speaker 3: maybe six times now, and like it has been some
Speaker 3: of the most challenging work I've done as an adult
Speaker 3: film actor, as well as some of the most rewarding.
Speaker 3: I remember when I met you, and just to give
Speaker 3: you call this like little bit of background, I met
Speaker 3: Davey at the Gay Ends, I want to say, in
Speaker 3: eighteen when they first came back. You were giving the
Speaker 3: keynote address like the day before the Awards show.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like the brunch.
Speaker 3: It was like the brunch before the show kind of,
Speaker 3: and Davy, you were asked to speak.
Speaker 2: Do you remember what.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious just so I know what the prompt
Speaker 3: was that they gave you, Like, why were you asked?
Speaker 5: I remember this so vividly.
Speaker 3: Please tell me because I remember a lot about it too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I want to hear your side of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, My version of this was, Yeah, they asked me
Speaker 4: to speak at this brunch. They were like, oh, you're
Speaker 4: doing something really unique with him ros TV. Why don't
Speaker 4: you share it? And I remember walking into that room
Speaker 4: and I had the mentality that like Google and YouTube
Speaker 4: had instilled in us, which was very collaborative.
Speaker 5: It's like if another.
Speaker 4: YouTuber succeeds, gets a book deal, gets a TV show,
Speaker 4: it lifts all of us up, and so we would
Speaker 4: celebrate that. What I didn't anticipate with porn was the
Speaker 4: like competitive cattiness and ego that would come into play.
Speaker 4: And like I walked into that room and you know,
Speaker 4: saw a lot of people who who had greatly influenced
Speaker 4: me as a you know, gay man growing up, and
Speaker 4: like there was one studio and I didn't know anyone.
Speaker 4: I was like, can I sit at the table with
Speaker 4: you guys?
Speaker 5: And they were like no, yeah, no, of course not.
Speaker 4: They like keep moving, the seat's taken. And it was
Speaker 4: the first time where I really felt like I was
Speaker 4: like speaking to a group of people that like wanted
Speaker 4: me to fail.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I just talked about.
Speaker 4: Him Ro's TV. And I had mentioned that at the time,
Speaker 4: one of our most popular models I think was like
Speaker 4: eighty six, and like people thought it was a joke
Speaker 4: and they were laughing, and there were two people who
Speaker 4: came up to me afterwards and were like, hey, I
Speaker 4: think this is really interesting and great.
Speaker 5: And Adam were you were one of them. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was really like I was a little shell shocked.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the background about what you had experienced
Speaker 3: with other studios and studio heads and stuff. I remember
Speaker 3: being in the audience and listening to you and being
Speaker 3: fascinated a by the mission statement and be the story
Speaker 3: about was it Norm Was that his name?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the elder man.
Speaker 3: He shared a story about filming somebody in his seventies
Speaker 3: doing basically like a jerk off video on a porch,
Speaker 3: and just like you know that like eroticism is in
Speaker 3: all of us, and like that was kind of like
Speaker 3: what you were trying to state, right, and that like
Speaker 3: that's the potential of what we can do as porn
Speaker 3: studios is like kind of like reignite the eroticism in anybody,
Speaker 3: regardless of age or gender or shape or you know everything.
Speaker 2: Like that is this kind of correct.
Speaker 4: It's this idea that like, for sure, we can show
Speaker 4: these like beautiful adonis chiseled men, but it's also nice
Speaker 4: for people to see a reflection of themselves.
Speaker 5: Yes, when they consume porn.
Speaker 4: Right, because otherwise it sets the this idea that like
Speaker 4: if all you see is cad MADEX kid madex ca matic,
Speaker 4: that like that's how you need to look. You need
Speaker 4: to be hung and chiseled and you know, perfectly sculpted
Speaker 4: to be worthy of desire or touch or connection. And
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us internalize that that message
Speaker 4: as gay people, and so I think there, yeah, I
Speaker 4: was trying to speak to this opportunity to showcase a
Speaker 4: broader spectrum of sexiness, and they just thought it was
Speaker 4: like hysterical.
Speaker 3: So I was looking at more like just to finish
Speaker 3: my story, like not from the studio perspective, but from
Speaker 3: the performers. I remember listening to and being fascinated, but
Speaker 3: then kind of looking around me and everybody I knew
Speaker 3: who were performers were like kind of partly tuning you out.
Speaker 3: And that's part of why I decided to come up
Speaker 3: to you, was because I was like, this is so
Speaker 3: unfair that these people are not listening because they're so
Speaker 3: busy wanting to be stars and getting ready for the
Speaker 3: Red carpets and all that thing. And so that's why
Speaker 3: I kind of came up and was like I love
Speaker 3: what you're doing. I'm whatever language you're speaking, I speak
Speaker 3: it and I understand it and I'm interested. I want
Speaker 3: to say it was like three months later you had
Speaker 3: me in Provinstown on that first shoot with Travis Matthews,
Speaker 3: the director.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's really cool what you do.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I really I really appreciated you reaching out
Speaker 4: because yeah, I just felt like really.
Speaker 5: Overwhelmed by it.
Speaker 4: And I think there was a huge skepticism of like
Speaker 4: the business model, like is there really an audience for this?
Speaker 4: And because I was coming from YouTube, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: who is this guy to speak to us like we create?
Speaker 4: Like what does he think he's doing? And the mentality
Speaker 4: was very much like Okay, we have one pizza, like
Speaker 4: this is this is the market for porn and everyone's
Speaker 4: fighting for like the biggest slice of pizza that they can,
Speaker 4: Whereas my approach was like, hey, let's order another pizza.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like let's make the pizza bigger.
Speaker 3: Since you brought it up, I am curious what made
Speaker 3: you decide? When was that like aha moment for you
Speaker 3: as a YouTube created to be like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm going to create a studio and do something a
Speaker 3: little different.
Speaker 1: Like a more inclusive version of.
Speaker 3: More inclusive, more intentional, and very clearly different from what
Speaker 3: else was out there, a different kind of pizza.
Speaker 4: It was a little bit out of necessity because the
Speaker 4: YouTube business model had changed so much over the I
Speaker 4: guess at that point, maybe ten years, I've been creating
Speaker 4: content where once YouTube bought it, it was ad revenue.
Speaker 4: But then YouTube was like, oh, we're showing Coca Cola
Speaker 4: ads before a video where someone does anal douching, and
Speaker 4: Coca Cola doesn't like that.
Speaker 2: So so you.
Speaker 4: Know, it went from creating all this ad revenue to
Speaker 4: then there being no ad revenue, to then creating income
Speaker 4: through video sponsorships. So I could work with a company
Speaker 4: that makes anal douches and promote those in a video,
Speaker 4: and that's great, except you give up a lot of
Speaker 4: creative control, and if your numbers drop then and you know,
Speaker 4: you can't command the same price point.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of pressure. And so my assistant at the.
Speaker 4: Time we were doing like a corporate retreat in Hawaii,
Speaker 4: which was really just a big brainstorming session, it was
Speaker 4: obvious that a subscription model would be really financially beneficial
Speaker 4: and he was like, why just create a porn site
Speaker 4: and we both kind of laughed and then we're like, wait,
Speaker 4: but yeah, maybe, and if we did, what aspect of
Speaker 4: the market isn't being filled because it's like the world
Speaker 4: doesn't need another men dot com right right, Like that exists.
Speaker 4: You don't need a Twink studio like that exists.
Speaker 1: So does it ever?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So that was kind of the space that we identified
Speaker 4: and it felt very on brand with what my journey
Speaker 4: was on on on YouTube, and so that's that's how
Speaker 4: it was born.
Speaker 2: M h wow.
Speaker 3: And how has the audience been since the beginning? Like,
Speaker 3: pretty good response, pretty quick response. Did it take a
Speaker 3: while to get off the ground, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's It's been really interesting because just last month I
Speaker 4: screened some of our upcoming content at a retreat that
Speaker 4: I was at, and we showed oh as Jacob ethan
Speaker 4: Dale was in a scene. He co wrote the scene
Speaker 4: with us where he was coming up against as an
Speaker 4: Asian model, some of the racism that he experiences on Grinder,
Speaker 4: and we imagined the scene that felt really celebratory of
Speaker 4: who he was, and we filmed it with some really
Speaker 4: great crew and we screened the scene and people were crying,
Speaker 4: and it was like, oh, like I think it shows
Speaker 4: a different possibility of what erotic content can be. And
Speaker 4: not all of the scenes that we film are like that,
Speaker 4: but I do kind of like this idea of every
Speaker 4: Monday new scene comes out and someone logs in and
Speaker 4: like you don't really know what flavor you're going to get,
Speaker 4: and you might be like, you know, sitting there with
Speaker 4: your dick out ready to like you know, ready to stroke,
Speaker 4: and then this really emotional scene, maybe you're.
Speaker 5: Crying while you're jerking off.
Speaker 2: What do I do?
Speaker 5: But this is really hot.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to play coaster for your for
Speaker 1: your ark off journey.
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is it's cool, Like I like
Speaker 3: I've been I've been in tears and several hemorro scenes
Speaker 3: like like there's it just we access something really deep.
Speaker 3: Shadow Work seems to be a common theme in a
Speaker 3: lot of hemorros scenes. It's like addressing the demons within,
Speaker 3: or addressing parts of our past or or addressing things
Speaker 3: that we want to kind of reappropriate from an empowered perspective.
Speaker 3: Are these like things you have gone through personally that
Speaker 3: you thought maybe you could channel into erotic content.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course, and going back to being
Speaker 4: raised Catholic, right that we're taught to just push it away,
Speaker 4: push it away, push it away, and in actuality, our
Speaker 4: shadow self is offering so much to us, to to
Speaker 4: if we're willing to listen, to grow and to evolve
Speaker 4: as a person. Oh I'm feeling this really strong response
Speaker 4: or ooh, I'm really into this thing that kind of
Speaker 4: feels fucked up, Like what is this really about? And
Speaker 4: if you're willing to kind of pull on those strings,
Speaker 4: there's usually something really juicy on the other side. I
Speaker 4: think we're kind of taught to just push all of
Speaker 4: that away, put in a neat little box tucked.
Speaker 5: On the bed, like it's.
Speaker 4: Fine, everything's fine, Like I'm gonna be fine. And this
Speaker 4: is the opposite of that. This is unpacking it. And
Speaker 4: obviously you can't do that in like a super The
Speaker 4: videos are fifteen minutes long, twenty minutes long, Like, it's
Speaker 4: not These aren't uncovering the secret to life, but it's
Speaker 4: showing people. It plants the seeds in people's minds and
Speaker 4: ask questions that they might not otherwise be accessing.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting space to like
Speaker 1: or want someone to reflect on themselves, like during like
Speaker 1: when they're watching important because a lot of times it's
Speaker 1: like you just you know, put something on that's going
Speaker 1: to get you off. Yeah, you know, and it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like something I need to I need to
Speaker 1: not what is cool?
Speaker 3: What is some shadow work that you think you could
Speaker 3: channel into some erotic content?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll give I'll give you an.
Speaker 3: Example, because I feel like one of the ones Davy
Speaker 3: and I have kind of joked about a lot in
Speaker 3: the past is being roughed up by like bigger, stronger
Speaker 3: older men when we were younger, right, isn't that is
Speaker 3: that one? Am I giving away secrets? I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: feel like that's one that you and I have talked
Speaker 3: about a lot where I feel like it's a theme
Speaker 3: for you, and I'm always like, Davy, there it is
Speaker 3: again where you like being like manhandled.
Speaker 5: I don't know, having boundaries violated by.
Speaker 3: You said, it's so much better, thank you older totally, Yes,
Speaker 3: having boundaries violated that is a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't know. I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not kinky and so like I don't get a
Speaker 1: lot of like I feel like I just don't have
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 5: I have an example, that's sure.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 4: So, like like when we filmed Norm, who Adam you're
Speaker 4: talking about, right, yeah? And I think he was in
Speaker 4: his eighties when we filmed him. He since passed away.
Speaker 5: Oh really yeah, yeah, he was in his eighties.
Speaker 4: And I was so confronted by seeing the body of
Speaker 4: a naked eighty something year old man, like we don't
Speaker 4: see that, and especially in a well And he wasn't
Speaker 4: just like you know, this wasn't like someone that you
Speaker 4: see getting changed in the locker room, like he was
Speaker 4: jerking off.
Speaker 5: He was ecstatic. He was in his body.
Speaker 4: He was very alive and radiant and fully living in
Speaker 4: his erotic energy. And it was like I think, especially
Speaker 4: as someone who who started creating YouTube content at the
Speaker 4: age of twenty three, and our youth is a currency,
Speaker 4: our body is a currency. And listen, like we're all
Speaker 4: on a journey to bankruptcy when it comes to you, right,
Speaker 4: And so when you're looking at Norm, you're seeing a
Speaker 4: version of yourself that you're going to meet someday, hopefully
Speaker 4: if we make it that far. And it really it
Speaker 4: holds a mirror up to you in a way that's
Speaker 4: really confronting. So I think for a lot of people
Speaker 4: seeing that scene, we interspliced it with Joey Mills and
Speaker 4: Blake Mitchell having sex and in the scene Norm was
Speaker 4: it was called Blessing of the Elder and he was
Speaker 4: basically doing like a meditation or a chant, blessing the
Speaker 4: younger generation of gay men to come into their the
Speaker 4: fullness of their sexuality, their authentic sexual selves. And to
Speaker 4: cut between as Norm touched his body, Blake touching his
Speaker 4: like younger, more muscular body. For gay guys, like seeing
Speaker 4: that is really that strikes a nerve, that's it's triggering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really struggled on that Joshua Tree shoot with Norm. Well,
Speaker 3: that was I think kind of an earlier him RHO shoot.
Speaker 3: So those and we were filming documentaries on each of
Speaker 3: us as well. The workshop portion of that shoot was
Speaker 3: three hours a day, which was more than the current
Speaker 3: more like forty five minutes to an hour in the
Speaker 3: morning workshop when we were actually shooting the scene where
Speaker 3: it was kind of like a hot tub party, it
Speaker 3: was like me Alex Meekham, Calvin Banks, and Max Adonis
Speaker 3: basically having this hot tub party where Norm is there
Speaker 3: and we all kind of like surround him and give
Speaker 3: him love and hugs, and like he jacks off and
Speaker 3: it was so sweet. Like the shooting of that portion
Speaker 3: was really beautiful, I thought, But like I had also
Speaker 3: just lost a mentor a couple weeks prior, and I
Speaker 3: think there was just a lot going on in my
Speaker 3: head and I wasn't as able to be present for
Speaker 3: that shoot, but I was kind of like, holy shit,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to have sex with a man in
Speaker 3: his eighties what And I felt and like, looking back
Speaker 3: on it, I feel really like a little bit ashamed
Speaker 3: that I first had that initial reaction because I know
Speaker 3: what you were trying to do with that scene.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's a very real reaction though, And the
Speaker 4: invitation to each model was to engage with Norm in
Speaker 4: whatever way like felt okay for you that maybe it
Speaker 4: was like in your garden of consent, but at the
Speaker 4: edge of it, right, yes, and that might just be
Speaker 4: waiting at him or giving him a hug or you know,
Speaker 4: holding him, or you know, it could be helping him
Speaker 4: jerk off. But it was it was imagining a world
Speaker 4: where our elders were more revered and not really kind
Speaker 4: of considered these like invisible and the reality is a
Speaker 4: lot of these older men have made this world possible
Speaker 4: for us through their sacrifice and their sweat. And what's
Speaker 4: also true is that they lived in a different world
Speaker 4: where their relationship with boundaries is different than what we
Speaker 4: have for sure, and so some of our apprehension may
Speaker 4: be well founded in experiences that we've had. Adam, you've
Speaker 4: said it, but I quote you so often on this
Speaker 4: and maybe you've said this on the podcast before, but
Speaker 4: something you've said to me was like, because I think
Speaker 4: we're both kind of at this inflection point where it's
Speaker 4: like men that are older than us, it is I.
Speaker 5: Think you put it.
Speaker 4: You said, it's it's yes until you say no, and
Speaker 4: guys that are younger than us it's no until you
Speaker 4: say yes.
Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, I say that a lot about consent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, And that's a really those are
Speaker 4: opposite perspectives and that can create a lot of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's so annoying when someone is when it's
Speaker 1: no until when it's.
Speaker 2: Yes and no.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a different era, it's a different era, for sure.
Speaker 3: But I also wanted to tell that story to illustrate
Speaker 3: like just what's possible with what you can create with porn,
Speaker 3: and I like that that's kind of what you do.
Speaker 3: Is There's been not only that scene, but a lot
Speaker 3: of scenes where I think going into it, I have
Speaker 3: this big apprehension and I'm just like, oh God, this
Speaker 3: is going to be a tough shoot and we've got
Speaker 3: to just get through it. But for some reason, and
Speaker 3: once the cameras are rolling and we are in that scenario,
Speaker 3: I lean right into it and somehow open up. Do
Speaker 3: you know if other models have experienced Hemorrow shoots that way?
Speaker 1: But you're a performer. You're a good performer, so you
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 3: While that's true, I'm not performing. I'm actually giving myself
Speaker 3: because like what Himorros does is it's a.
Speaker 1: Performance when you can convince yourself. I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: are that you are into it?
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, But like I'm not just convincing myself. I'm
Speaker 2: you're letting yourself yourself. I'm leaning in, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's part of it. That's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like some people cannot do that. They're just like, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't what I want.
Speaker 3: Well, that's when making adult films is work right like,
Speaker 3: and we have you know, Davy. We have performers all
Speaker 3: the time on this show who talk about the difference
Speaker 3: between and enjoying yourself on a set versus just working.
Speaker 3: And I think that there's a difference in what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about here is where I think spiritually, you and
Speaker 3: him Row shoots give performers do the space to not
Speaker 3: only come to work, but also to kind of confront
Speaker 3: these things that might be a little different. There's some
Speaker 3: spiritual work to do here in order to also provide
Speaker 3: something that is erotic and sexy for the audience to consume.
Speaker 4: I think it's like, instead of becoming this character or
Speaker 4: this thing, it's finding that thing inside yourself and accessing it.
Speaker 4: And that's like what I think some of the best
Speaker 4: performers that we work with are able to do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's what's really fun to capture. I think now
Speaker 4: our approach, I mean, going into our eighth year of
Speaker 4: this is probably a little softer that models have all
Speaker 4: the concepts ahead of time. We do a lot of
Speaker 4: prep work around, like Okay, which scene is going to
Speaker 4: feel like a reach but a healthy reach for you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: And which scene maybe would you not want to be in.
Speaker 4: And it's also though, why like on the other side,
Speaker 4: after models do a shoot with us, we offer five
Speaker 4: post filming counseling sessions. Sometimes accessing that place inside yourself
Speaker 4: means opening that box that we like to keep tucked away,
Speaker 4: and maybe that box isn't so easy to pack back
Speaker 4: up again. So those counseling sessions can help people integrate
Speaker 4: what's come up.
Speaker 3: And now.
Speaker 4: It's also why when a model film's with us, whatever
Speaker 4: they shoot with us, we give to them to use
Speaker 4: on their only fans because it feels like we've captured
Speaker 4: something that's so personal to who they are. It feels
Speaker 4: disingenuous to be like, well, that's ours, because it's it's
Speaker 4: also theirs, and so they can really sun their only
Speaker 4: fans after it comes out on Himro's TV.
Speaker 2: We as performers really appreciate that option.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, some good content.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Can you think of three scenes at least in the
Speaker 3: last couple of years or you know, three that come
Speaker 3: to mind that you were like particularly proud of providing.
Speaker 5: We did this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did the scene with court Fox. He was
Speaker 4: the coach we worked with, and we did it in
Speaker 4: Illinois and it was called tears, and it was Nico
Speaker 4: Nova and Vander Pulaski, and it was written to have
Speaker 4: three different types of tears. And Nico is like the
Speaker 4: like Meryl Streep of.
Speaker 2: Just like he can cry on command.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and so like the first tears were like
Speaker 4: him disappointing his dom, which was Vander. And then it
Speaker 4: was the tears of the punishment, right because he was
Speaker 4: getting like paddled or spanked.
Speaker 5: And and then the.
Speaker 4: Final tiers were the tears of affirmation when Vander you know,
Speaker 4: affirmed him for who he was and that he was
Speaker 4: worthy and deserving. And in each case, like the tears,
Speaker 4: they were real, and it was like, I think the
Speaker 4: whole scene maybe took forty minutes to film, and when
Speaker 4: it ended, we were all just kind of like like
Speaker 4: just standing there in silence of like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I can't believe that. Yeah, how generous of a model
Speaker 4: to give that to us and to the world to watch,
Speaker 4: you know, But Nico's are really you've worked with with
Speaker 4: nicos Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I was on that. I was on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The self sess that I mean talk about confronting something
Speaker 3: deep is like that was it was me and Nico
Speaker 3: playing like younger and older versions of the same person,
Speaker 3: and we essentially like come together in this really beautiful moment.
Speaker 3: But I was on that Illinois shoot as well. There
Speaker 3: was something you were There was something very magical about
Speaker 3: that week. I feel like every scene was kind of
Speaker 3: like that, where like going into it, there was just
Speaker 3: a lot of prep and then once the camera started rolling,
Speaker 3: the scenes were done in forty five minutes. Almost every
Speaker 3: scene felt like it went that way that week.
Speaker 4: Was there a scene do you remember any of the
Speaker 4: I mean, this was like a couple years. Was there
Speaker 4: any scene that was like really impactful for you that
Speaker 4: you are more memorable?
Speaker 3: I had a variety of scenes that week where I
Speaker 3: was a sub in one and like a dominant another,
Speaker 3: and you know, there was you know, the Brat taming
Speaker 3: one where me and Jackson are beating the crap out
Speaker 3: of Glittery Bottom and trying to you know, he was
Speaker 3: playing a brat so we had to kind of and
Speaker 3: this was before Brat Summer.
Speaker 2: Everybody, by the way.
Speaker 3: But the final scene was where it was all the
Speaker 3: performers together and there was like maybe seven or eight
Speaker 3: of us, and I was cast in basically like the
Speaker 3: like figurehead who kind of like directed what everybody did.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that it was the one?
Speaker 3: It was the one in the barn, and that was
Speaker 3: the one I was the most nervous about because I
Speaker 3: was essentially leading this group sex activity kind of. But
Speaker 3: then once the camera started rolling, I just channeled a
Speaker 3: side of myself that I mean, it's beyond dom sub stuff.
Speaker 3: Like it was like I was like, you do this,
Speaker 3: you serve him? Everyone come like it.
Speaker 1: Was I was.
Speaker 2: It was almost an out of body experience, like you
Speaker 2: facilitated it, facility.
Speaker 3: I was a facilitator for sure of this like almost
Speaker 3: ritualistic erotic experience. And I almost don't even remember what
Speaker 3: I said. You know, it was like I was channeling
Speaker 3: something so that I think is the one I'm the
Speaker 3: most excited to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately we forgot to hit record And I'm kidding, no.
Speaker 5: Do you think you would ever consider.
Speaker 4: Being like like a coach in some capacity or some
Speaker 4: sort of like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I have I have a mental health background, and
Speaker 3: I think I mean i've because I was a LGBT
Speaker 3: psychology master's, Like that's what got me into making porn
Speaker 3: in the first place. So I feel like eventually I'm
Speaker 3: going to kind of lead in that direction. I don't
Speaker 3: know how it's going to look yet, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I could do that.
Speaker 5: Nervous.
Speaker 4: Well, it was so funny that you were nervous about
Speaker 4: filming that scene because what I remember is this like
Speaker 4: really grounded confidence that you embodied. And I was like,
Speaker 4: oh this, I was like this queen like like oh.
Speaker 2: Wow, Like you didn't tell me this.
Speaker 1: I know you do, because you get Siria, you get
Speaker 1: like you have this like seriousness. He puts like I
Speaker 1: know because I know you that You're like you're nervous
Speaker 1: in there, but you're like, m You're like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: really the game taking it seriously Like he's really like thinking, like.
Speaker 3: I did feel very grounded in that scene, and I was,
Speaker 3: and it was kind of like I don't think I
Speaker 3: was until we started filming, until the camera started rolling,
Speaker 3: and then I just like landed in this role kind of.
Speaker 2: It was really beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I didn't say anything to you because it
Speaker 4: seems so effortless that I was like that you just
Speaker 4: stepped into this. I was like, oh, like this is
Speaker 4: this is a really easy place for Adam to access,
Speaker 4: Like this seems very available to him and and I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, I was just really impressed.
Speaker 2: Wow, awesome, that sounds that feels great to hear. Thank you.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I wasn't fishing at all. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 3: is there anything you're kind of like really excited about
Speaker 3: coming up and he shoots or anything like what's in
Speaker 3: the near future and far future for Davey Wavy and
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 4: In December, we're going to Spain to film a scripted series,
Speaker 4: The Mansion Neil King, And it's gonna be a nine
Speaker 4: day shoot for us.
Speaker 5: That's really really long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and will.
Speaker 4: Release YouTube version and we'll also have the spicy erotic
Speaker 4: version on Himro's TV. But it's kind of inspired by
Speaker 4: White Littus. I know, Adam, you saw the script. So
Speaker 4: that's in December, and then in January we're going to France.
Speaker 4: We rented this castle to do a shoot that's inspired
Speaker 4: by video games, and that one's still very much coming together.
Speaker 4: But I mean, any excuse to you know, be in
Speaker 4: a castle in France eating chocolate and French foods and croissants.
Speaker 5: Sign me up.
Speaker 3: You shoot things really ahead of time? Does that mean
Speaker 3: you have like content lined up for like a ways.
Speaker 5: Almost two years of content.
Speaker 2: Yes, nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we filmed, we filmed twelve scenes each shoot,
Speaker 4: and so it's like if we just released another French
Speaker 4: castle video French Castle, French Cat, there needs to be
Speaker 4: like eight weeks in between. Otherwise it feels like okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: we get it. You filmed in a castle in France?
Speaker 2: Do you film? Do you release one a week? Is
Speaker 2: that how it works?
Speaker 4: Yeah, release one a week and each shoe is like
Speaker 4: each scene from different shoots. They're broken up by about
Speaker 4: two months.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's still like I think five scenes from
Speaker 4: the Illinois shoot that haven't come out yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, that's so exciting.
Speaker 1: Have go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, need to I need to myself for having it
Speaker 2: through December.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I need to reactivate my Hemorrhos membership. Speaking
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Speaker 2: Cole, Do you have any other questions for Davy Davy?
Speaker 2: Are we missing anything? Is there anything else you'd like
Speaker 2: to share with our listeners.
Speaker 5: I'll just plug that we're doing.
Speaker 4: We are kicking off as of this week our year
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Speaker 2: How long is this sale going on till?
Speaker 5: We will do it through through New Year's Eve?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 5: It's always like to make a sale of the year.
Speaker 1: So if they listen to that, still have like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll have time.
Speaker 3: That's why I asked, because this will this will come
Speaker 3: out around Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: I think so amazing. Cool.
Speaker 5: Yea, thank you for you, sir.
Speaker 1: I think that that's great. I'm happy to meet you.
Speaker 3: Right, Davy Cole Cole, Davy Cole is available.
Speaker 1: I was shut up.
Speaker 3: He is also an actor. Awesome anyway, thank you so
Speaker 3: much for joining us. I've been wanting to do this
Speaker 3: for a months. I'm glad it finally worked out. We
Speaker 3: appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for thinking of me.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, chat you guys, Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3: Tune in next time for our season three finale, y'all.
Speaker 3: It's almost the end of the year. So I'm Adam Ramsey.
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