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Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome

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to the show, Melissa Gates Perry. Hey, Melissa Good.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm thrilled to be here, thrilled to

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be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm

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excited to talk to you and to uh the entity

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that you channel as well are our lamb alam. Thank you.

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I'm gonna miss I'm gonna mess that up a couple

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of times. Please please ask please please ask him for

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my forgiveness ahead of time. But uh, you know, you know,

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I have a lot I've had a lot of channels

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on the show. I love talking to channelers because of

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the knowledge that comes through them. But I'm also just

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fascinated by the process. And I think most most people

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are who have not who are not channelers are interesting

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that are interesting.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you're I think you're completely right about that,

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and it's and it's always really amazing to be able

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to talk to people about what that feels like and

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what that's like for me. So I'm thrilled to be

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able to do that as well.

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Speaker 1: So my first question is what was your life like

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prior to this insanity?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was raised People say this, a lot of

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people have difficult childhoods. I had a particularly horrific childhood.

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It was just very, very difficult. My parents were, you know,

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sort of meant well, but were really drug addicts and alcoholics.

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And I was basically I'm old. So I was born

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in sixty four. I'm old to a lot of people

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on the planet. And I was raised in a bit

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of a hippie commune for lack of better terminology, and

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so there were just tons of people through our life

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when my sister and I were little, So there was

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a lot of fear, a lot of stress, a lot

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of just difficult situations. And so as a kid, and

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you'll hear this with other people who were channels, as

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a kid, I did an awful lot of introspective sort

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of thought, and especially at young ages, thinking about things

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that young kids shouldn't even be thinking about, around survival

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and what is the world, you know, what does life mean?

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of that, and so when I was pretty young, I

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just realized that I had a really strong sixth sense.

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I had a really strong sense about people. Oftentimes would

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sort of know what people were thinking when they weren't

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saying things out loud and that kind of stuff. And

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the thing is all human beings and Airlam tells me

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that all human beings are really born with that ability.

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And right now on our planet, what's happening is that

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so many people are waking up. I mean, it's a

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challenging time to be alive, but it's also a phenomenal

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time to be alive for that reason, you know. So

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as a kid, I went through a lot of trauma,

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and then as I got older, I just started to

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realize that I was sort of seeing and hearing a

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lot of things that my buddies and people around me weren't.

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But where Arilam actually showed up in my life, and

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chapter where he literally showed up in my life was

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and I don't want to go too far into the story,

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but I had a situation that was very, very frightening

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when I was twenty one years old and a friend

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of mine wrote me a letter and said, hey, we're

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in this situation together, and if anything happens to me,

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I want you to understand why. And he was involved

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in some very kind of you know, frightening. He was

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involved with a couple of frightening groups who were doing

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magical workings and energy work that was kind of negative

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and a lot of stuff like that. Well, three or

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four days later, he was in a car accident and died,

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and I became terrorized. I was so terrified because he

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had told me that he was fearing this was going

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to happen. Now, people could say coincidence whatever, but for me,

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it was terrifying. And the honest to goodness truth is

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I started praying to God to send me some assistance,

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meaning I literally was praying to God. And when I

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say that in the book, I say I wasn't praying

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to Christian God or the Buddhist God. I was praying

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to the God with a capital G. Right. When I

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say capital G, I mean the God who created everything,

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regardless of your religious background. And I spent about three

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days doing that and just saying, please, if you've made

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me different, like this, tell me what you want me

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to do, Tell me what you want me to do.

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my son was about two years old. I was a

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single mom, living in a trailer park, live in the dream.

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As I tell people, I was being the stereotype. But

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I'll tell you I woke up in the morning and

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Heirlam was there. And I would have been terrible fight

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of that, except that I had really hit that that

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rock bottom place where you're just you're really you're praying

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out of that place of need that is so deep,

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you know, that place of fear. And Ralam showed up

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the next day and initially, and I'm talking here and

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you're not getting to ask another question, but initially Arilamb

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showed up kind of as a presence, meaning it was

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like I knew that he was with me, because it

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was as if you know how when you're in your house,

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and if you're in your house and somebody else is

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in the living room, you know they're there, do you

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know what I mean? You don't have to have them

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right next to you to know that you're in the

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house with others. So his presence for me initially was

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like that. But it was very calming, and it was

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very peaceful, and it made me feel very safe. And

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then over the next year or two, I just accepted that.

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I thanked God for that, and I sort of said, great,

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you've sent me. I thought initially it was just going

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to be you sent me somebody to just help me

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feel more secure in life. But as it turned out,

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Erlamb was in communications on the other side, and we

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started talking not shortly long after, and then after that

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people started showing up.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. When you first started

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to talk to the me, you don't transchannel, so you

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just kind of you have a conversation with some k

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he's in the room.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, and yeah, so he does.

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Speaker 1: Not, does he? So he doesn't when you're talking to

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him or channeling him, it doesn't give you a burst

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of energy or comes through you in that way. How

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does that work?

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Speaker 2: I know that's weird, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: For me, like right now, Airlamb is standing here because

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we're having this conversation, So for me, it's as if

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he's standing right next to me, just like if my

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best friend and my brother were standing right next to

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me in this room. But they weren't talking right now.

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At the minute he starts talking, I don't hear him

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out in the room. I hear him in my head.

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So it isn't like I'm hearing him in the room

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as I would hear you in the room. But it's

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as clear as day. It's as clear as that to me.

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And let me give you another you know, when this

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first started happening, I went and I talked with a

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couple of pastors, I talked with psychiatrists. I did all

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of that, thinking.

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Speaker 1: By the way, how'd that work out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, well you know what, every single one of

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them said, You are not crazy, you aren't disassociative, you

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don't have your this is not a mental illness. This

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is something that's happening for you. And I was lucky

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in that way. I was very lucky. I didn't have

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anyone try to exercise me, and I didn't have the

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two therapists that I talked with about this, because I

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said to them, is this as real as I feel

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like it is? And they were both, you know, you're legit.

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This is what's happening to you. And of course that

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was twenty five thirty years ago. Now people now people

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are channeling, you know what I mean, people are channeling, so.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you give did you give the therapists that

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like a quick session or something like that to prove

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the situation?

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Speaker 2: You know. The Funnily enough, one of those therapists is

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somebody that sees me on a kind of a regular basis,

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So it's kind of funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's been

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nothing but a blessing to me. I mean, it's an

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interesting thing to explain to people because and a lot

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of people say to me, ah, I would not like that.

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I wouldn't like having someone present with me all the time,

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because what about when I want to be alone, what

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if I'm in the shower, what if I'm being intimate

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with my significant you know, I don't want that kind

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of connection. And what I say to people is, you know,

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Airlamb has such big fish to fry every day, meaning

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he's on the other side. He's not caring about any

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of the mundane things that I'm doing. Really he's not,

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so it's not intrusive in that way. And the other

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really amazing thing is that since the beginning, Airlamb always

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has said to me, you know, the second you don't

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want to do this anymore. You say so, and I'm out,

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meaning the door will be closed. I can close the

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Speaker 2: So it's not out of my control, and it's completely

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you know, it's been a great blessing for me, and

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it's been a great blessing for so many people. And

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that's the really phenomenal piece of it.

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Speaker 1: And when you started to do like this professionally, essentially

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coming out of the spiritual closet, if you will, right,

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how did your family, your friends, your people around you

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kind of because this, again it's a little bit outside

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the box. So yeah, I like asking me that question.

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Speaker 2: My immediate family have always been very supportive of me.

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I do have some extended relatives who have tried to

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get me saved up through Jesus a few times. And

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you know, they try to say, you know that this

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is not from God. But most of the people that

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know me and see my day to day life and

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understand who I am and they get my energy, they

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understand this is from God. Like you know what I mean,

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God made us all some creator whatever you believe. The

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other thing that I so It's not been a hard

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thing for me. I haven't had a lot of pushback

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from family and friends. Good and a lot of times

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my clients people will come in very skeptical. They'll come

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who have had other family members send them to me

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and they come in really really skeptical, and they leave

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feeling way better about the way that life is and

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what our souls are. And the other thing for Airlam

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is that you know him the other side where we go,

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where our energy goes after we have died. It doesn't

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negate any religious belief. It doesn't negate any religious belief

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and you've lived a phenomenally good life, if you get

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hit by a truck tomorrow, you're gonna have to pass

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through that entry point your soul will. Now, some people

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and Aralam says, that's perfectly okay. Free will is what

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all inclusive in that way, which I love. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like saying I don't believe in gravity.

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but you'll be surprised to find it's real. It's real,

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you know so well you can't.

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Speaker 1: You could also not believe in you know, electrons and

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protons exactly, and the concepts of quantum physics. But your

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belief in it and doesn't negates it's exactly right now.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's not real. And the other really

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good thing for me that's been wonderful is that as

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I've gotten a little bit older, I'm going to be

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fifty nine soon, so I'm you know, I've been doing

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this for a while, but as I've gotten a little

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bit older, science and scientists have started to catch up

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to this. Yes, So it's really wonderful when you when

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you hear different people Jodas Spendza and people like that

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talking about these things. Because this is all from where

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Airlam works. This is his backyard, this is where he works.

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Speaker 1: So it's really fast. It's fascinating to have a friend

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of mine who's a channeler and he decided to go

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and connect his head to a scam machine to see

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what actually is happening in his brain when he's channeling,

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and the science behind that was fascinating. I'm not sure

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it would be like you because he's a trans channel,

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like he fully trances out. He trances out, but the

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brain waves dropped down to I think gamma.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I had that done about ten years

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ago because I had it done because I just wanted

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to have it done, and I had some people that

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knew me and knew some people that could get that done,

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and because I don't trance to do it, like right now,

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I'm fully connected to Airlam completely and I don't trance

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to do it. But what they found was that the

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the the eight lowest levels of my brain waves right

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now while we're talking about this with that open channel

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to Airlam, they're in those beta waves. It's like I'm

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trans in a trance, but I'm not. Does that make sense? Yeah?

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You that was the really strange thing about it. It's

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almost like I'm sleeping on some level.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting. I've had a few channels who

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have your ability in the way you do it on

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that will just go hold on a second and yeah,

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on second, and then and they very similar. So it's

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and they have complete conversations and things like that. But

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some of them can actually go into a trance if

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they want to go and have them kind of speak

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through them. But it doesn't seem like Arelam does that.

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Speaker 2: I could do that, but you know what I like

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to be to be part of the conversation. I really

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like to be part of the conversation. And about twenty

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years ago, I had a friend who wanted me and

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I it basically would I would go into a trance

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and then she would tape record lots of airlimbs information.

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But what basically happened was then I like to be connected.

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I like to be able to know what's going on,

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and I also like to hear what he's saying. But

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you're right about that. Oftentimes, if he's really talking straight

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to someone, then I'm doing that very thing. I'm okay, oh,

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and he's saying this, and then I'll say what he's saying.

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sentence is exactly, but it's all me hearing him and

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being wide away, which I love. I love that piece

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of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, So is it possible I have a handful of

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questions for Ireland if he is interested in answering, and

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they are. They are, I'd like to call them. They're

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tough questions, questions that we get asked a lot about. Yes,

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and they're I call them minefield questions because.

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Speaker 2: You're going to take a quick drink if you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: Please please. They're kind of like minefield questions because those

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questions are so difficult to answer and they can spawn

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off into a bunch of different things, and a lot

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of people have very strong beliefs around these questions. But look,

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that's I love asking Channels this because I'm really curious

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to hear what he has to say.

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Speaker 2: So right, okay, are you ready? I am so ready.

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Airliam just said she is always ready, Alex, that's what

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he just said. He just said she is always ready. Yes,

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does have kind of a fun drive sense of humor aerlam,

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which I like.

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Speaker 1: So he was British in a former life, is what

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you're saying, right, I know?

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Speaker 2: Right? Actually Welsh? Yes he was he was Welsh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, so there comes out this as

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a humor. Okay. First question, what happens to souls if

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they decide to leave their life? Early or commit a suicide.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is a big question, and Aerlain is going

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to give you it's gonna be a little he's saying

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to me, it's gonna be a little bit of a

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long answer. Before you are born into this life, you

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will have made soul contracts with usually between five and

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ten people. Those are going to be your closest people.

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Those contracts consist of what are the lessons we're going

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to learn together? What are the experiences we're going to

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have together. These are positive experiences and negative experiences. What

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are we going to do together. We're going to have

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all these possible timelines and we're going to all come

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in together. So your parents, your children, your spouse's you know,

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sisters and brothers. You make all of these soul contracts

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before you're born as a group, and you tend to

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do that on purpose, and you'll work through different lifetimes

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like this, and what it is is in one lifetime,

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you could be the father figure who has trouble with addiction,

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and your children all agree to come in and try

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to learn and struggle and do the right things around

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that so that everyone heals, So that then your whole

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group wouldn't have to learn those lessons again. So that

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being said, on top of it, everyone has free will.

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The creator of this universe and all of the universes.

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The first rule of law is free will. Your free

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will can never be taken from you. Okay, So, as

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he's saying, all of your souls, y'all come in it

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in your lifetime together. Then somebody in your group, say

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it's a brother in a family commits suicide. That completely

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destroys all of the pre conceived agreements that you all

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had because you never agree to have anybody commit suicide.

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It's like leaving the game early, right, we're supposed to

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be born in and then your whole life is like that.

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I mean, it's not to make it sound he's saying,

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not that the word game is insinuating that it's not

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serious your life, because it is. But you're in the

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game together. You've agreed to do this together, and if

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somebody does not play it out to its end, then

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what you're literally doing is you're throwing everyone else's timelines

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off completely completely. Well, and so again Arilam is saying,

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right now, now, this isn't a judgment. In other words,

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say that you're the person who commits suicide, your soul

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moves back over to the entry point where Aerlam is at.

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But what happens is, rather than just you'll be meet

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by you'll be met by your people over there, and

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maybe the people in your family who have already crossed over.

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to go and decide what are you going to do next.

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You don't go through your life review right away, because

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what you've done is you've extinguished your life early. Now

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you've thrown everybody left back on the planet into complete turmoil,

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complete because that's not ever an option. And people hate

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to hear Aerlams say that. They hate to hear him

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say that because people want to believe that, and people

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can believe whatever they want to believe. But I'll tell you,

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and it's in the book. There's a whole chapter on suiciding.

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He calls it suiciding out of a lifetime. You're just

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it is. Arilam literally says that in Create, in the

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creator's eyes, committing suicide is worse than doing murder to someone.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And the reason is you and someone else might come

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into a life where one of you is determined that

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you might be the murderer and the other might be

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the victim in order to have lessons. But suicide is

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never used in that way. It's a no go, it's

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a don't do it. So if somebody does that, when

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they get to the other side, they have to their

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soul is held in a waiting area, and it is

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literally held in a waiting area until such time that

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every person, every life that that suicide impacted, has a

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chance to run its course and they come back over.

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But you know, the statistics say that if your great

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great grandfather committed suicide, you have what a sixty percent

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higher chance of doing it yourself. And that's a great

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great grandfather, right, So that soul has to wait it out.

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In other words, they literally have to wait it out.

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And the other issue is that that soul will have

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the opportunity and be made to feel, to actually feel

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every single thing that their suicide made all of those

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around them feel. Because now there they've they've messed up

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all of the all that covenant they signed, those agreements.

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They said, yes, we agree, you can't get out early.

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I've had so many people come to me and say,

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you know, I'm I'm depressed on this or that. I'm like, listen,

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you cannot you can't do that, do whatever else you

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need to do. I mean, there's there's a million and

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I know that it's a chemical imbalance, and I know

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that that seems very hard and a very harsh rule.

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But you and I know people who are suicidal are suffering.

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I get all of that, and airlamb does too, and

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and but it's just it's a no. It's a no.

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It's a no.

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Speaker 1: So now so the question then, what happens to the

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lives left on earth since they are they're now basically

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kind of like free, free flowing, if you will. They're

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not connected anymore. They're loss almost so it throws everybody

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else out of whack? It does do they continue to

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learn in other ways? Is their new timelines created well?

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Speaker 2: And Airlam talks about this in the book, And this

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is why a lot of this information is coming out

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through channels right now, and it's good. So if you're

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someone who has had a suicide close to you or

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someone that you care about, what you need to do

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first is you need to understand the best way to

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help your friend or family member is to get help

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for yourself, because if you can get to the point

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where you can stop feeling guilty yourself and you can

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really truly forgive them and let them go, that will

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take time off their waiting. So everything that you do

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after the suicide from earth affects the person on the

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other side. So you really need to work on yourself

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to understand it's not about you. And the other thing

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is is that people sometimes will go they'll go into

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that guilt place if only I had done this, if

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only I had done that, And then you end up

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feeling like you're not a good person because you didn't

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stop it. Right, You didn't stop it. It's not your

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responsibility at all. And I speak not only from Airlamb's

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point of view, but from my own. I had a

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very dear friend who committed suicide. And the really, really

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strange thing was, for the first three years after he

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was gone, I kept saying to Erlamb, have you heard

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anything from him? Have you heard any And he said, no,

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he's in rest, he can't do anything because he did

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this thing. And then all of a sudden, he did

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show up to me. He did show up with Airlamb

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and he said, if you could release me from your

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anger around this, then that is one thing I can

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check off my sort of to do list here, because really,

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if you commit suicide, you spend eons of time trying

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to wait it out or make it better for people

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that you left behind. It's just bad. It's bad karma.

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Speaker 1: And if you from what I've heard before, is that

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suicides also when they come back, they got to deal

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with every the same situation that they're left with, and

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so they because they have to go through it, they

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have to pass.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can't, you can't skip it. That suicide literally

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whatever it's whatever the life experiences that you're having, not you,

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but whoever the person would be, any life experience that

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you're having that's making you feel overwhelmed to the point

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where you're going to commit suicide. If you commit suicide, first,

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you're going to have to deal with everybody else's ramifications

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that loved you or or you or you were. It's

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why when really famous people commit suicide, it's the worst

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because how many people that didn't even know them now

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commit suicide Because do you see what I'm saying, Those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Robin Williams. Well, no, actually, but that's a good

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00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,559
question though. Look, Robin Williams had a disease, yes, so

475
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:56,319
how does that work?

476
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: Caveat here's the one. I was getting to that and

477
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,640
you got you psychic be right there. So if you

478
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,480
the one thing is is that if you have a

479
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,559
disease that is debilitating to the point where it's going

480
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:13,480
to kill you, then you most likely would have put

481
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,079
that into your timeline possibilities, meaning everybody in your group

482
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,480
would have agreed. Okay, one of the things that could

483
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,000
happen to me is I could get cancer and once

484
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:24,640
I get to the point where I can't take that

485
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,119
cancer anymore, or if I'm to the point where I've

486
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,680
lost my mind, or you see what I'm saying, like

487
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,240
if I'm not, if I'm because depression and suicide, depression is, yes,

488
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,839
a disease, but it's not something that's going to kill

489
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,440
you today, right.

490
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Speaker 1: Right, But what Robin Williams says, for an example, it

491
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:42,920
was literally going to kill him.

492
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: It was going to kill him and he knew it,

493
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,759
and right, so that is that's the only loophole to this,

494
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,440
That's the only loophole because Robin Williams. And I'm not

495
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:54,559
Airlamb is not telling me this is for sure, but

496
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:56,559
I'm going to use it as an example, and he's

497
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,519
telling me that that's valid. You know, he may have

498
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,480
made an agreement with all of his people and said, look,

499
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,279
you know there's a possibility that my end of life

500
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:08,839
is going to be this, and everybody would have agreed. Right. Yeah,

501
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,039
But just depression alone, it's not because you can you

502
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,559
can talk to people every day. You can call somebody

503
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,000
at any moment and say, look, this is where I'm at,

504
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,839
stop me from doing this, help me. So it's a

505
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,160
really big one that you don't want to do.

506
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 1: Well. That was a great answer to a difficult question. Now,

507
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,519
one other question that I've had I've had a curiosity

508
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,799
about is too, is at what point does the soul

509
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,880
enter the body? Is it in the womb, is it

510
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,319
a conception, is it at birth? What is the actual

511
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:43,160
Because I've heard multiple different.

512
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Ye, thanks so, Airlamb. And it's in the book as well.

513
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,960
And some people are going to hate this answer and

514
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480
some people are going to agree with this answer. Airlamb

515
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,880
basically says there are two things that play here. Firstly,

516
00:26:55,519 --> 00:27:00,640
the idea that two human bodies can create or organically

517
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,119
create another vessel. A body right to house a human soul.

518
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,359
That is a miracle all by itself, that piece of

519
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,200
it is a miracle. Yes, So once a soul, once

520
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,440
a soul, say that you you know, when you were

521
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,559
on the other side and you made agreements about who

522
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,279
your mother was going to be. Once your mother became

523
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,839
pregnant with you, you will go to your soul go

524
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,799
on the other side, goes to this area of what

525
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,519
Airlham calls the forgetting, and it's like it's it's basically

526
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:30,400
this place on the other side where your soul goes

527
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,480
there and it becomes very tightly condensed into a much

528
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:39,160
smaller area, and you forget everything. You forget your time

529
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,839
on the other side, You forget your agreements. Now there's

530
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,200
a reason that you forget your agreements, and that's because

531
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,839
if you knew everything going in, you would never take

532
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,200
any challenges, you would never do anything difficult right, you

533
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,559
wouldn't take the difficult lessons because you'd already know what

534
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,519
was coming. So once you're all in there and you're

535
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:58,440
in the area of the forgetting, and you're ready to

536
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,559
be born at at sixteen weeks gestation. This is what

537
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,599
Airlam says. Approximately sixteen weeks, the mother's body will then

538
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,559
either be fully ready like this, this pregnancy's gonna go

539
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,640
on organically. Everything is fine, She's gonna accept this pregnancy

540
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,599
and whatever that is. At sixteen weeks, the soul moves

541
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,759
into approximately the soul moves into the vessel and is

542
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,359
seated there. And that is a pretty instantaneous thing that

543
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,359
doesn't take very long. From what Airlam tells me, at

544
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,319
the moment of conception basically what happens on the other side,

545
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,279
so you could say, you know, I mean, at the

546
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,000
moment of conception, it's as if a flip a switch

547
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:42,440
is flipped on the other side.

548
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,079
Speaker 1: That's when a light bulbulb, a light goes on, right.

549
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,839
Speaker 2: A light bulb goes on, and you're and you're like, okay,

550
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,160
I'm going to go into the area. I'm gonna get

551
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
coalesced into a very tight area of energetic soul body.

552
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960
I'm going to have the comfortable, warm forgetting. And that's

553
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,559
about sixteen weeks earth time it takes to do that,

554
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:04,279
and then I will drop into that body. So but.

555
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:07,519
Speaker 1: To be interrupted, I don't mean to interrupt you but

556
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,599
at any moment between those sixteen weeks, there could be

557
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,279
a miscarriage, There could be multiple different things. If that

558
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:14,599
happens and then things.

559
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,599
Speaker 2: Like that, then the life happens. Then the whole thing

560
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,160
is put on hold and you're released back out of

561
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
that area until your mother would maybe get pregnant again.

562
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: Right, And it's just kind of like a almost like

563
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,200
a hot scotch hopscotch kind of thing. You're like, okay,

564
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,640
get getting ready to jump in, getting ready to jump in.

565
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,319
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, right, yeah, although from what an airline is,

566
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:39,039
he's kind of interrupting right now, but he's saying, normally,

567
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,400
if you're if the mother becomes pregnant, in other words,

568
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,519
she's now had the conception. Normally, if that, if that

569
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,039
conception is strong and wanted and there the agreements that

570
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,920
would be in place would have a lot of power there,

571
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:57,799
meaning if something happened, then it happened. But chances are

572
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,680
pretty good that you're going to end up there.

573
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:01,279
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, got it.

574
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: But sixteen weeks ish is when that's Airliam calls it

575
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,799
the seating, the seatinger of the soul.

576
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

577
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,920
And now back to the show. Now we've spoken, and

578
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,799
you've kind of hinted about this earlier, and I've talked

579
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,599
about this in many other episodes before, about the soul's blueprint,

580
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,359
about our agreements, about our ideas of what we want

581
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:30,920
to learn in these lives. I get this question all

582
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,720
the time, why or how can we still have free

583
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,920
will if we have laid out this beautiful blueprint that

584
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
we all have to walk anyway? So how how is

585
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,240
this free will fawing?

586
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is amazing and awesome. So and again

587
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,759
Airlim talks and I'm going to give you the overview

588
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:50,799
from what Aerlam is saying. So basically, you were born

589
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,400
into your life with maybe four or five or six say,

590
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:58,599
possibility arcs, meaning you'd still be running into the same

591
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,960
other souls, but the arcs of possibility are there. Free

592
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,519
will is always yours. So even if you came into

593
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,759
this lifetime fully well knowing that you were going to

594
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:14,039
be an accountant who gets in a motorcycle accident and

595
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,720
ends up in a wheelchair, say that that is your mate,

596
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,680
and then your whole lesson plan is to overcome that challenge,

597
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,240
be a great human, go on to be a lawyer.

598
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,319
After that, Mary, have children do all that stuff. You

599
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,599
don't have to do it. You could do none of

600
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:36,160
those things. You are never on a path that is

601
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,759
set in stone. You could literally ignore all of the

602
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,960
lesson plans that you put in place. You will not

603
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:46,839
be judged for that, but you won't get credit for

604
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,279
them because you didn't do them. You see what I mean.

605
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 1: But would there be.

606
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,039
Speaker 2: You'd have to do it again?

607
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,039
Speaker 1: Well, those specific lessons, Yeah, but then there'll be a

608
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,119
whole bunch of new stuff that you'd be learning along

609
00:31:59,119 --> 00:31:59,319
the way.

610
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could. You could do other things, and you

611
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720
might get credit for those things. It's say that because

612
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,240
it's not so much the specific thing, it's the lesson.

613
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,319
Say that you want to come in and you want

614
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,279
to learn about suffering, you really want to come in

615
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,759
and suffer but overcome it. Well, you could put all

616
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,599
these possibility You're gonna put these possibilities in your timeline.

617
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,559
That would be the best ways to do those things.

618
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960
But chances are even if you don't go with those

619
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,799
specific ways to suffer, you'll find another way to get

620
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,680
to that lesson. So that see what I mean? And

621
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,440
if you really, really, really avoided all of your lessons

622
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:34,319
and you got to be a ninety year old man

623
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,400
and then you pass back over. You're going to be

624
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,559
met by your people, and when you have your life review,

625
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:42,000
because everybody has one, they're going to say, well, you

626
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,599
went in with these objectives and you didn't really hit

627
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440
on any of them, but you had a great time

628
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,039
in this life and you were a really good person,

629
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,279
or you didn't hit any of your objectives and you

630
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,440
were kind of you weren't a good person, and it's

631
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:57,279
like you were terrible, and so you're gonna have to

632
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,119
go back around again. You're not going to be able to,

633
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,559
you know, walk, You're not going to avoid those the

634
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:02,319
next time around.

635
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,359
Speaker 1: Well, from my understanding is that when you were you know,

636
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,200
let's say i come down in this in this lifetime,

637
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,920
and I'm supposed to be a basketball player, yes, in

638
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,839
the NBA. Uh, And as I'm going through life, I

639
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,279
decide to become an astrophysicist. Yep, And I start going

640
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:27,839
down that path because I got interested in astrophysicism astrophysics.

641
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:32,279
But then from what I understand is that your guides,

642
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,599
then you know, source the universe will start to kind

643
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,400
of nudge you in the direction that you're supposed to

644
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,039
be going based on the agreements you laid out. You

645
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,640
can ignore those, And from my understanding, you ignore those

646
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,519
at your own peril, because the first one is a

647
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,119
gentle whisper, the next one's a little pat on the back.

648
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:54,599
Eventually it's going to be a sledgehammer across the head.

649
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,279
How does that work? How's that?

650
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: Well? It can be, And it depends on which piece

651
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,880
of your lifetime. You sort of aren't listening to the

652
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,319
really big lesson plans that you lay down for yourself.

653
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,639
It's not likely that people are going to stray very

654
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,920
far from those. Then there are a lot of peripheral things, right,

655
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,000
there are a lot of things in the periphery that

656
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,000
you want to add into the lifetime. I mean, it's

657
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:19,639
very much like making sort of a karmic soul salad

658
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,159
in a way. Right, it's mostly going to be the lettuce.

659
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,920
It's mostly the stuff that you know you're going to

660
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,480
go there for. So, yes, your guides will give you nudges. However,

661
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,000
and Airlim states this all the time to me, a

662
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:36,280
guide can never do anything to you. They're not allowed

663
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,519
to do that. They can't do anything negative to you,

664
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:44,239
and there's no repercussion from them if you don't do

665
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,480
the things that you really should be doing. However, me

666
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,599
be cause I know you've got a butt. I can

667
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:54,199
see the butt happening. However, if you are really going

668
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,519
against your life path, you're the thing that's making you

669
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,679
light up, the thing you're supposed to be going there

670
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960
to do. Because if you avoid your life path to

671
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480
that degree, you're going to be missing some of the

672
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:09,320
other people you're supposed to be meeting and helping. Right, So,

673
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,719
if you really do that, yes, the great hand of

674
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,039
the creation will sort of give you a push here

675
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,239
and there or make you you know, it'll send things

676
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,400
into your path to get you going in the right direction.

677
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:24,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, yeah, because that's because from what I heard

678
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:27,559
from near death experiences is that sometimes they've gone they've

679
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,480
they've gone so far off the path that the near

680
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:34,079
death experience or the accident is a wake up call

681
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:34,360
for them.

682
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: Hey. Absolutely, either you get out of.

683
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: This life now, or you got to go back down

684
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,760
the path that you're supposed to be on, that you

685
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,199
agreed upon. So that's what I've heard from multiple near

686
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:44,800
death experiences.

687
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: That's why I want to ask and that is completely valid.

688
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,360
And the other thing about the near death experiencers is

689
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,880
that they go where they go and to the I mean,

690
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,280
you know you now you can hear hundreds of people,

691
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,159
thousands of people talking about this, and it's so amazing

692
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:03,480
because they are all going to the same place pretty much.

693
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,840
It's where pretty much, and it's where Airlam is working

694
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,079
with a millions of other guides, right So they show

695
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:12,639
up there and sometimes they don't let them come all

696
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,360
the way in because it is meant to be a

697
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320
wake up call. You know, they're saying, look, you don't

698
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,920
really belong here right now, but you've got to get

699
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,639
it together. Man. You know, you're supposed to be doing ABC.

700
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,639
And I think that a lot of times from what

701
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,559
Erlam has shown me. And oftentimes in readings, I'll have

702
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,960
people come through in readings who say, you know, I

703
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,840
am very torn, I feel like I'm on the wrong road.

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,480
I feel like I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do.

705
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,280
And their people will show up and give them details

706
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,480
about where they're supposed to be headed, which is really awesome.

707
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,039
Speaker 1: Now, this is another interesting question. I've heard of this idea,

708
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:48,400
and this might make people's heads explode a little bit.

709
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm used to exploding heads.

710
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,199
Speaker 1: I mean, the head might explode a little bit and

711
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:55,800
there might be a little bit of smoke that comes

712
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,800
out of the ears. With this question, I've heard that

713
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:06,880
you can or I heard that you can experience multiple

714
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,239
lifetimes at the same time. Can you explain how that's

715
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,440
possible within our world of time and linear time that

716
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,079
we've created.

717
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: So from what Aerlam tells me, because he talks a

718
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,840
lot in the book about time space and frequency, right

719
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,880
and Nikola Tesla was all about the frequency. If you can,

720
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:31,239
if you can get your brain tuned into the right

721
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,480
frequency at the right timing rate, you can sort of

722
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:38,840
be anywhere all the time or all the time nowhere

723
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,639
if I know, that's confusing, but that's what Aerlin is saying.

724
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,320
So what that generally means, Aerlam is telling me that

725
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,280
on this planet right now, people are you're not able

726
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,800
to be living two timelines on a single planet. Now,

727
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,480
souls that are very highly highly seated, meaning they've had

728
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,960
tons of lives and they're not dealing with the kinds

729
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,159
of things that these are the souls that come back

730
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,519
to this planet now to be huge helpers, you know,

731
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,719
the people who come up with you know, the Nikola

732
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,800
Tesla's or the great you know, Jesus or the Buddha,

733
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,199
these kinds of souls. They have the capability of living

734
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,920
multiple lifetimes simultaneously, but not on a single planet, meaning

735
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,039
they're not living. You're not You and I are not

736
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:27,199
being two different human beings on this planet now because

737
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,880
our head would explode. We don't have the in these bodies.

738
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Our bodies right now are coming into a big change.

739
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,079
That's the other thing. It's a phenomenal time to be alive.

740
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:39,599
It's a challenging time to be alive, but it is

741
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,719
an amazing time to be on this planet because we

742
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:48,320
have the opportunity right now to just explode into much

743
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:53,079
more positive, hot, higher level souls, right into that next

744
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,679
level soul, no pun intended. We really that's where we

745
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,519
are right now. So it's just an amazing time to

746
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,159
be alive. But so says that he's saying to me

747
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800
right now. He actually what he said was Melissa stand topic.

748
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,800
He just told me the stant topic. So yes, it

749
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,320
is possible, but it's not really possible for the general

750
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,920
humanity that's on the planet right now, and to make

751
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,400
people's head explode more. I mean, Airlam talks all the

752
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,679
time about other planets that are inhabited, and you know

753
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,519
that there are other universes and all of that stuff

754
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:25,000
like that is a reality. But in our universe right now,

755
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:28,320
it's it's not for us. We're not doing that right now.

756
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,679
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and regardless of me, it's kind of

757
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,400
like this is for a lot of space for if

758
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,320
it's just us. Yeah, that that doesn't make a lot

759
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,800
of logical sense, even in a scientific state, and in

760
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,679
science right I mean, even physicists are saying, guys, there

761
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,039
has to be something out there. Yes, what they are,

762
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:46,679
I don't know.

763
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a stretch. But the idea is that

764
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,239
Airlam says, you know, so really you if you wanted

765
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,239
to say that you live to be an eighty eight

766
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960
year old man and you pass away, and you do

767
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480
you basically did everything here that you need to do,

768
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,039
and you did pretty pretty well at it.

769
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

770
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:10,800
and now back to the show.

771
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,159
Speaker 2: You'd get to the other side, and of course you're

772
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:15,599
going to meet up with the folks that went on

773
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,800
before you in your group, in your pod, your soul pod,

774
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:21,119
and you're gonna look at the life you just had.

775
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,159
But you do have the opportunity at that point to

776
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480
determine do I want to go on with these folks

777
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:27,679
right now? Do I want to have another life on Earth?

778
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,679
Do I want to go to some other planet? You

779
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,280
know what I mean? Maybe half your POD's going to

780
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400
go to some other planet and then come back together,

781
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,280
because we keep coming back together with the people that

782
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,079
we're in it with, and the people we struggle the

783
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,079
most with are the ones we've been with the longest.

784
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: But from what I understand too, this is this is

785
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,360
the Harvard or the Yale of experiences, Like this is

786
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,079
a tough.

787
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is yeah. Earth is Earth is no joke.

788
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,480
I mean, you have to really all this. But that's

789
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,039
the other really wild thing is that right now. A

790
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,519
lot of times Airlamb will let me see what I say. See,

791
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,079
I mean, like see in my mind's eye, I have

792
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:05,360
a door, like I have a physical door that I

793
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,880
can close. It's like an office door. And if I

794
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,400
want to have a weekend where I'm just going to

795
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,159
go eat cheeseburgers and lay on the beach and drink

796
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,000
a cold Servesa and kind of just let this not

797
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,840
be thinking about any of this. I can literally close

798
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,639
that door and then I don't have to see because

799
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:24,400
I see lots of souls and people coming and going

800
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,360
all the time on the other side through that door.

801
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,239
I can see it in the hallway. And oftentimes Araline

802
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,360
will say, oh, you know, there's a huge influx of

803
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,119
souls being born onto the planet right now, and that

804
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,760
has been ramping up more and more. Obviously, souls are

805
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920
wanting all the souls who are the big, the big cheeses,

806
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,760
like the souls who are really high level souls who

807
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,119
have been through a ton of stuff. They want to

808
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:48,119
be on the planet right now because of this huge

809
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:53,119
shift we're having right Yeah, your podcast is one of

810
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:55,400
the you know, this is a place where people are going.

811
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,760
You know, I need to look into this. I want

812
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,639
to grow, I want to think about what this means.

813
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,000
So it's a phenomenal time for that. Now.

814
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: I've heard of something recently that was it caught my

815
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,000
ear and I love to hear what you have to

816
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,480
say about it. Family karma or ancestral karma. But you know,

817
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,639
we all understand, hopefully most people understand the concept of karma.

818
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,360
I think it's pretty much in the zeitgeist of humanity

819
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,519
at this point, that karma, you know, you do something wrong,

820
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
something comes back at you to a certain extent. I mean,

821
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,239
that's basic, the very rudimentary level of that. But but

822
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,119
then this concept of ancestral karma, meaning that like your

823
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,880
great great great grandfather in your in your line, you know,

824
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,519
fell off of an Aztec building or Aztec pyramid, and

825
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,119
now you are still afraid of heights and you have

826
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,159
to fight through that or something or something along those lines.

827
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and Arilin was saying, so, so what this,

828
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:55,440
what this is connected to is is that say that

829
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,599
three generations back, your grandfather was an alcohol who hit

830
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,840
everybody in the family. I'm not saying he was, I'm

831
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,960
just saying as an example, right, and then, but nobody ever,

832
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,519
no one ever confronted him on that because of the

833
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,000
time in our history or whatever it was, or say

834
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,199
it was four generations back. Well, then what's happening is

835
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,440
not only on a physical level, but on a psychic

836
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,920
and spiritual level, that energy never got stopped with your grandfather.

837
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:27,760
No one ever stopped him, and nobody ever healed from

838
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,199
that karma, Right, nobody ever healed from that abuse. The

839
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,159
chances of his children going on to do some form

840
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,599
of that abuse are pretty high now. Even if they don't.

841
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,000
It was never dealt with psychically or spiritually back then.

842
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:45,719
So what it is is that there's this unseen energetic

843
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,239
body that the family keeps carrying forward until someone say,

844
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,719
like you, says, hey, I was looking through great Grandma's papers.

845
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:56,760
You know, I've got a trunk of stuff from her.

846
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,320
Was great great Grandpa Bernie? Was he a kind of

847
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,480
a drunk and a hitter. Well, everybody would need to

848
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,360
see that that was the truth, talk about it, bring

849
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,280
it out in the open, let light be on it,

850
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,960
and then everybody healed from that. And also everybody in

851
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,079
your family would want to look at themselves and look

852
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:17,119
at each other and say, are we carrying any of

853
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:20,320
that with us? Are any of our behaviors like that

854
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,719
at all? Do we do anything that reminds us of that?

855
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,719
So you need to people need to stand up and

856
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,880
physically and emotionally, but then spiritually released from that because

857
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,599
hidden secrets. Right, if three generations back, uncle Ernie was

858
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,920
somebody who inappropriately touched all the cousins, right, but no

859
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000
one spoke of it. We won't speak of it. We're

860
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,679
just gonna Ernie, just don't get near Ernie. Well, then

861
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,199
you know how that goes down through the generations, because

862
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,000
even if you don't go on to be somebody who's

863
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,719
inappropriately touching children, yourself, you're living with that scar. Then

864
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000
you're going to raise kids and you can't help but

865
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,880
give them that scar. And that's why aralamb Is, like

866
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,000
everybody on the planet right now, needs to look at

867
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,599
our histories. We need to look at where we are wounded.

868
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,440
Where are we wounded? Where are we wounded? And it

869
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,639
can be a wound that's old, it could be a

870
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:15,480
wound that you're carrying that your mother gave to you.

871
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,880
And that's where that karma is. That's what it means.

872
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:21,880
Man healable and it's fixable.

873
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,679
Speaker 1: Good good to know now. I've also in my studies

874
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,119
of Yogic philosophies and Eastern philosophies the concept of enlightenment.

875
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,119
When the Buddha found enlightenment, Jesus found enlightenment, and so

876
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,800
many other masters have found enlightenment over the years. I

877
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,199
heard on a karmic level that when a soul does

878
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,639
get to the level that it transcends needing to come

879
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:52,679
back or incarnate. At this level, it's such a powerful

880
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,840
thing that they fix the karma for their soul group

881
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,519
and can go back five or six or ten generations

882
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,199
and clear karma for everybody that's basically in their group.

883
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,199
Is that a true?

884
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,119
Speaker 2: That is absolutely true? And how that works is And

885
00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:08,239
a lot of times Rilam will say this, and he's

886
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,000
saying this right now. Oftentimes you will find one person

887
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:15,519
in a pod, a soul group who says, I'm going

888
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,320
to come in this time with everyone else, and i

889
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,119
am going to take the hit for everybody, meaning you know,

890
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,480
I'm going to come in and I'm going to be

891
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,320
born into a big family all of you. But I'm

892
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,199
going to get I'm going to get childhood cancer at

893
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,719
nine and I'm going to suffer for the next ten

894
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,360
years of my life. But I'm going to do it.

895
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,239
I'm going to do it with incredible courage and nobility,

896
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,719
and then I'm going to die young and it's and

897
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,679
I'm going to give that time up and I'm going

898
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,480
to give this to you as a gift. All of

899
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:47,280
that pain that you guys are going to have from this,

900
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,360
I'm giving it to you as a gift. So I'm

901
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,199
going to sort of sacrifice myself in this lifetime in

902
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,280
order to gift you. And all you all have to

903
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,840
do is you have to find a way to overcome

904
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,280
this pain of the loss of this child without becoming

905
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:04,079
drug addicts, without being angry, without you know, you've got

906
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,239
to grow through it. And if everybody can do that,

907
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,840
we all move up a couple levels or more.

908
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: But no, but I'm talking about like the ultimate level,

909
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,599
meaning like you you've reached the end of Jesus. Jesus, Yes,

910
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,679
everybody around.

911
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:19,039
Speaker 2: Jesus say thing about that there is an ultimate level.

912
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,360
But an Airlam has said to me a lot of times,

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,199
once you get to that level, many many times, those

914
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,880
souls who are at that level where they never have

915
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:34,079
to reincarnate, they are literally ascended beings. Half of the time,

916
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,159
Airlam says, they quietly come back into lifetimes on very

917
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,559
difficult planets in order to try to help as many

918
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:43,840
souls up as they can.

919
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,679
Speaker 1: Right, which is which is what what Jesus and Buddha

920
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,000
and these kind of these kind of souls did. But

921
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:54,360
when they do reach that enlightenment, does that help the

922
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,639
soul group? Meaning like it. It can they wipe out

923
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,079
karma for the entire soul group by their own by

924
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:02,239
their own ascension.

925
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,599
Speaker 2: By their ascension, they can. But oftentimes, and Airlin is saying,

926
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:10,159
oftentimes and most of the time, the souls around them

927
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,480
will have already been raising up anyway. Meaning you, he's saying,

928
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,880
you never get a soul who's very close to ascension, right,

929
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,559
familied up with a whole bunch of souls who are

930
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:25,079
just started twenty or fifty levels below. It doesn't happen, right.

931
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,119
Speaker 1: So everyone's kind of coming.

932
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of yeah, you stay at the same level.

933
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,639
And the reason that you do that is because you're

934
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,039
always agreeing. You keep agreeing to come back in for

935
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,239
the big lessons. And the other thing he is saying

936
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,039
right now to remember is that oftentimes the people with

937
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:43,360
the hardest lives, the people who are struggling, struggling, struggling,

938
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:46,840
but get through it, they're oftentimes the people who are

939
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,000
bringing their group with them. You know, they're they're they're

940
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:53,760
bringing everybody up. So he's saying, and now he's saying,

941
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:57,119
it seems very simple, but it is one reason that

942
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,800
you should always or anyone should always embrace their worst challenges,

943
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,440
really embrace those challenges and grow through them on purpose.

944
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Do it on purpose, he's saying, make those decisions to

945
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,800
stick with the hard things on purpose, like know it,

946
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:15,239
like own it say. He's saying, you know, say to yourself,

947
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,239
my soul chose these things on purpose because they're hard,

948
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,039
and I can do this. And he's also saying to

949
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,199
me that right now, the reason that so much channeled

950
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,639
information has come through is because if a person starts

951
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:28,960
to understand they have a soul and that they can

952
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,199
work through that soul. In other words, you can look

953
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,400
at your whole life through the eyes of your soul.

954
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:36,639
How much good work are you going to be able

955
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:39,559
to do? A ton? The A ton was my part.

956
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,079
Oftentimes I use vernacular and sometimes Alex I will even

957
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,079
swear in a reading, which I'm not going to do here.

958
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,679
Speaker 1: I appreciate.

959
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,599
Speaker 2: Occasionally, occasionally I'll swear in a reading and Arilan will

960
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,480
say to the person she swears, I don't swear.

961
00:49:55,639 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: I've heard of of channels who do swear. We'll be

962
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:07,320
right back after a word from our sponsor, and now

963
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,119
back to the show.

964
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,679
Speaker 2: Like I personally swear, but he doesn't swear, so no, no,

965
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,000
but the other but the the other side. Some do,

966
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:16,960
but he doesn't. He's pretty prod.

967
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's proper.

968
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: He's a proper, little more proper than me, he'll say.

969
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,679
He'll say, be sure to tell them that was your

970
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,559
choice of word.

971
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,679
Speaker 1: Now, another idea that I think that I love to

972
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,440
dig into a little bit is the concept of co creation.

973
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,559
Are co creating our reality and what we kind of

974
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,360
want to have in our lives and what we can create?

975
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,039
The the secret and the law of attraction idea that

976
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,199
was seated in the early two thousands was the very

977
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,719
beginning and kind of manipulated in a way like hey,

978
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,599
I want a new car, and a new car is

979
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:58,119
going to show up. Like that's not the way it works.

980
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,719
But generally, can can can you guys talk about co

981
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,199
creation of your reality that you're in?

982
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay? So an Airlam calls this manifestation, right, co creation manifestation.

983
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,480
So manifestation is one thousand percent true. I mean those

984
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,920
are his words right now. It is one thousand percent true.

985
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,280
And the thing that people need to understand is it's

986
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,679
one thousand percent true that you can manifest positive things

987
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:26,679
into your life and it's one thousand percent true that

988
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,559
you can manifest negativity into your life. So with manifestation.

989
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,760
And in the book Airlam talks about something called a

990
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,440
faith heeather. It's an electromagnetic tether that every soul has

991
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,519
which goes up through your crown chakra. It attaches you

992
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:44,119
to the other side. It attaches to your soul, but

993
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,039
it comes through your funnel cortex kind of this way.

994
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,000
And it's a faith heather. So anytime that you're praying,

995
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:54,360
that you're manifesting, that you're meditating, you're literally using this

996
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:58,559
energetic piece of your brain that isn't physical, but it

997
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,239
is connected to your soul. He calls it faith teather.

998
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,679
So what Ralam always says and what I think the

999
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,960
secret and things like it missed. They made it so

1000
00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:12,360
simple and it is simple, but it's specific and he's

1001
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,920
just saying it's simple, Alex, but it's specific and he

1002
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,480
wants He's saying, I want your listeners to understand this.

1003
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,360
To manifest something, it isn't that you are praying for it.

1004
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,159
You're not praying that it happens. You are praying it

1005
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,360
that it is. So when you are praying for something,

1006
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,280
the best way to do that or manifest or meditate,

1007
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,159
however you want to do it. It's that you connect

1008
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:46,320
your feeling of it already being you physically emotionally have

1009
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,360
to sit and feel the feeling of having that job,

1010
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:56,440
or having that home, or having that relationship, feel the

1011
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,639
way you want it to feel with someone else, or

1012
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:02,400
the healing or the healing of a relationship, or whatever

1013
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,360
it is if you want to. If you have zero

1014
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:09,599
dollars in your bank account, but you know that your

1015
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,880
life would be changed for the positive, if you could

1016
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:14,960
spend two weeks on a beach in Fiji, then you

1017
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:18,960
need to spend your time not thinking necessarily initially about

1018
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,400
the how of it. Don't worry about the how of it.

1019
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,280
You need to literally meditate or pray and feel yourself

1020
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,840
sitting in the sand on the beach in Fiji. Listen

1021
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,320
to the ocean sounds while you're doing that, feel the sand,

1022
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,400
feel the heat of it. You have to emotionally feel

1023
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,000
it as if it's already here. And what that's doing

1024
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,880
is that sends the energy from your soul. That intention.

1025
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,039
It's everything is intention. And I know that people talk

1026
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:47,440
a lot about intention, and Aroline is saying, right now,

1027
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:52,039
you literally must do it literally this way, that is

1028
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,960
the literal format to do it. And the other thing is,

1029
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,639
at the same time, as you're already there, you're thanking

1030
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:01,960
the you reverse the creator, God however you want to

1031
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,880
say that, or you know, female however you want to

1032
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,239
look at God. But you're also having that incredible grip

1033
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,480
because if you're sitting on the beach in Fiji, how

1034
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:14,360
grateful are you going to feel? That immense you know,

1035
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,559
that feeling you get inside when you're so grateful. It's

1036
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,079
it's just the most grateful thing. So you have to

1037
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,599
have all that feeling and then you have to sort

1038
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,320
of let go of it and know that it's going

1039
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,400
to happen. Of course, you still have to dig the ditch, right,

1040
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,280
so you're still gonna you know, all of that was

1041
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,440
the universe will start bringing that to you through the

1042
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:35,280
dark matter fabric. And I don't want to get too

1043
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,159
deep down the rabbit hole, but there's a Airlim does

1044
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:41,519
a whole section on dark matter and what dark matter is.

1045
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Dark matter is what God gave us. Is sitting out there,

1046
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,599
it's everywhere around you, and it's literally a field that

1047
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,840
is waiting for you to tell it what to do.

1048
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: Is it the quantum field?

1049
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,199
Speaker 2: It is, it's a part of the quantity. He calls

1050
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:59,079
it dark matter fabric. So it's everything that's between everything else,

1051
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,280
and it literally can go. It can be made into anything.

1052
00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:06,639
But it needs intention. It literally it needs at.

1053
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: It needs a programmer, and it's the.

1054
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Code M but it'll it'll program anything. So if you

1055
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,280
sit all day alone thinking I know that I'm going

1056
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,280
to die alone of tonail cancer, if you think that

1057
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,400
over ten years, there's a pretty good chance you're going

1058
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,000
to manifest that for yourself. Now Erilyn is saying he

1059
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:26,400
just said the caveat is. He's not saying that everything

1060
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,519
bad that happens to everybody is because they were thinking it.

1061
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:33,360
But if you can catch yourself and stop that behavior,

1062
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,960
worrying is the worst kind of praying. It's the worst.

1063
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,360
You don't want to.

1064
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: Do it again. The dark matter fabric d matter fabric

1065
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,519
very sounds very similar to the matrix, meaning that one

1066
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:46,880
I know, once.

1067
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: You understand the thing about it is, though, is the

1068
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,280
dark matter fabric. It doesn't. The dark matter fabric is

1069
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,159
there for every soul and it doesn't have any bias

1070
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,840
one way or the other. Code so nothing nothing that

1071
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,159
you would pray for is too big of a prayer,

1072
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,920
no healing, no amount of prosperity. And the other thing

1073
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:09,320
that's so interesting because Herilin just said, don't forget to

1074
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,719
tell them this part. So the other thing is that

1075
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,239
the universe loves when one person can help more people

1076
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,360
and more people and more people. So if you're praying

1077
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,000
for something, and you and I talked about this, I

1078
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:23,719
won't go into that, but you and I talked about this.

1079
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,840
So if you are praying and meditating and manifesting for

1080
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,960
something great to happen to you, and that that great

1081
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,079
thing happening to you is going to actually help tons

1082
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:36,239
of other people have great things as well, the dark

1083
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,239
matter fabric and the universe loves that, like loves it.

1084
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,199
I can't say loves it big enough because the whole

1085
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,760
idea here is that the snowball wants to be getting

1086
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,960
bigger in the positive direction. And if you're really what

1087
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,480
it is.

1088
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: And if you're aiming for that, if you're aiming outside

1089
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,119
of yourself, if being of service to others.

1090
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: Yes became, and all the things you need are going

1091
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,360
to come as well, and not just the things you need,

1092
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
meaning it's not just that you would only get, you know,

1093
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,199
a good sturdy tent to live in. It means that

1094
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,440
all the things you need and if things that make

1095
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,280
you give you joy, it would be a car or

1096
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,719
a house or whatever. Great as long as it's also

1097
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,480
helping other people, which is why I loved doing the

1098
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,119
readings and why I love the book because I'm you know,

1099
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,559
it's a way for all this stuff, all these lessons

1100
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,400
and all this talk from Arilam to get out there

1101
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,599
to people. So I love that.

1102
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,079
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask

1103
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,239
all of my guests. Okay, what is your definition of

1104
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,639
living a good life? You could answer, or are Arilum

1105
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:32,079
can answer?

1106
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm gonna let Airliam answer first because his

1107
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:38,400
answer and mine are going to be very different. Well

1108
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,119
not very but a little, you know. Okay. So Arilam

1109
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:44,159
is saying, from a sole perspective, living a good life

1110
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:50,239
is coming into this lifetime successfully traversing all of the

1111
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,559
lessons you would have laid down for yourself, while also

1112
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:56,719
finding other lessons that give you joy and happiness and

1113
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,840
harmony that you didn't even program into your situation, meaning

1114
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,920
you just you know. And he's also saying, filling yourself

1115
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,400
up with joy all the time. And he's saying, if

1116
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
you can leave this lifetime understanding that even the challenges

1117
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:13,000
were some of the biggest blessings. And he's just saying,

1118
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,559
he knows that sounds a little cliche, but it's so

1119
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:19,280
simple and it's so true, and embrace your challenges because

1120
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,679
those are the things that you're going to look back

1121
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:23,960
on and go, I'm glad that I grew through that.

1122
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:25,800
I'm glad I live through that because now look what's

1123
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,079
happened after it. Right, So that's what he's saying me.

1124
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,239
I would say a successful life for me is just

1125
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,559
to be able to reach a ton of people, have

1126
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:39,000
a really good time, and you know, just do the

1127
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:41,480
things I love to do. And the other thing I

1128
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:44,679
think for people, and this is a hard one for people,

1129
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:46,920
I think, is that it took me a while, and

1130
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,719
I think it wouldn't have taken me. I shouldn't say

1131
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,280
that it didn't take me as long as some people.

1132
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,239
But I think on our planet right now, people should

1133
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,559
just start being exactly who they are without fear, do

1134
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,840
you know what I mean? Like, of course, because here

1135
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,519
I am, I was a twenty three year old with

1136
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:05,239
suddenly being a channel. I had to get over it

1137
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,920
really quickly, like I couldn't pretend anymore that I was

1138
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,079
with the status quo right or that I was going

1139
00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:14,760
to be the way that other people thought I should be,

1140
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,920
or whatever it is. I just think human beings right

1141
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,320
now are on this precipice of having the time. The

1142
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,800
timeframe is perfect for everybody to just get really, really

1143
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,599
deeply into the most positive aspects of themselves. You know

1144
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:31,400
what I'm saying, Like you don't ever want to hurt

1145
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360
other people, but if everybody could get super free to

1146
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:36,639
look they want to look and be who they want

1147
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:38,920
to be. And I suppose it in a way, it's

1148
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,320
a little bit of like a spiritual libertarianism right right.

1149
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,880
It's like it's like everybody just be nice and everybody

1150
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,519
get to be completely freely who they are. And if

1151
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,920
you want to be an organic goat farmer, go for it.

1152
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,880
Be the best one you can be. If you want

1153
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,360
to be an accountant, if you want to be a

1154
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,800
stay at home mom, if you want to be you know,

1155
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
a designer who design it's buttons for you know, high

1156
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,920
end club, whatever you want to do, just be a

1157
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,920
super good human while you're doing it.

1158
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1159
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,679
and now back to the show.

1160
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,639
Speaker 2: Is that's my luck, that's what I want, that's my thing.

1161
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:21,000
I always want to do that.

1162
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:24,039
Speaker 1: What is your definition of God?

1163
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, I was. It's funny I was raised. Aerlam just

1164
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:31,119
folded his hands and said, you can answer this one.

1165
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,960
So he folded his hands and said go ahead. So

1166
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,280
I was raised. Even though I was raised in that

1167
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,760
hippie commune and it was very difficult. Most of my

1168
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,360
family around were pretty hardcore born again Christians, and I

1169
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,320
got nothing against born again Christians at all or any religion.

1170
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,760
But through my experiences with Erlam, you know, God, to me,

1171
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:53,559
God is not female. God is not male. God is

1172
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:57,159
sort of all things. Firstly, there's no doesn't seem to

1173
01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:00,840
be any from what I understand of God. When I

1174
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,360
ask when I want to pray to God, because I do,

1175
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,400
I pray to God occasionally. When I do that, Heirlamb

1176
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,639
and everybody that's right on the other side there they

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all step aside. Whoever's around my prayers. The energy of

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my prayers go up up up into this sort of

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never ending white light that's way far above us. I

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don't think that God is punitive. I really don't, I think,

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and I don't think that God is. I think that

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God is the creation force from which all things come.

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And I think that originally God just created our universe,

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all the universes, everything that's in creation. I think God

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did that specifically to be able to watch us have

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lives and have offspring. I really do think that's what

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it is. And I think God is a benevolent, non

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threatening I think all of the threatening pieces of God

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that we learn on our planet are from men's mouths.

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Speaker 1: Oh, obviously, you know.

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Speaker 2: So to me, God is just the and also God

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is to me like an all forgiving creation source that

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lets us, I mean think about all that we're allowed

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to do. I mean, if God was a different, if

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God wasn't just this all knowing, sort of awesome, perfect

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space of creation, that that creative God wouldn't let us

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do all the crazy stuff we do. I mean we

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get in trouble all the time, you know.

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Speaker 1: So now where can people find out more about you

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and your book?

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Speaker 2: And okay, so the book, I'll hold it up here,

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I'll do this please. The book is called Being Humans

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and it's a channel. It's channeled Guide. It is simultaneously

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chapters about my childhood, and then airlamb uses those chapters

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as learning tools about soul growth and what to do

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with that. And then Airlam talks about everything. He talks

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about what I call the lobby, birth and rebirth, death, suicide,

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everything you could ask, A lot of what you didn't

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ask today is in this book. Airlam speaking on that specifically.

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You can find me at Melissagatesperry dot com. I'm also

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Melissagates Perry on YouTube, I'm on Instagram, all the places,

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all the different places that you can find smiling faces.

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I'm on all those places. And the book is at

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Amazon and all all different places.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, cool, And then do you or Alam have

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any final words for our audience?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Arilam is saying. So he's saying, Alex, thank

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you so much for allowing me to speak on your

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program today. He is saying, He's saying, and thank you

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to all of your listeners. It's a wonderful time for

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you all to be on the planet. And oh, he's

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also saying, anyone who wishes to contact their guide or

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have more of kind of an impact of their guide,

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in their lives, just simply has to ask for that.

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Just say to your guide anytime, Hey, I don't want

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you talking to me particularly, but if you want to

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send some good stuff my way, that.

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Speaker 1: Would be great.

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Speaker 2: You can do that. So he's saying that, and I

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would just like to say that you, sir, are phenomenal.

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You're doing the good work. You are doing the good work.

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And I'm telling you all this stuff you have online

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and the masterclasses and the people, and I am I

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just feel so so proud to be a part of

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being on your show and being one of your people.

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I'm proud to do that because it's you know, every

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bit of this stuff is stuff that people can just

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grow and you can bite off a little, or you

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can bite off a lot. You can start where you

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are and just start learning. And that's what you're doing.

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You're doing the good work.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much. Madam. Thank you so much

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for the book and for the work that you're doing

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to help awaken souls around the world. So I thank

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you and I appreciate you awesome. Thank you for spending

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this sacred time with us today. If you feel called

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to explore this conversation further. You'll find the show notes

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for this episode at Next levelsoul dot com. Forward slash

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