WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.600 Mister fake entertainment too. Rights, I'm so glad you guys 2 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.320 brought up disability. Guys like Sid holland Nash specifically has 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:08.599 always been given off a vibe of seeking the relief 4 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.720 of not working. They are of a certain vintage that 5 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.199 were sons and grandsons of the generation that returned from 6 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:16.839 the war and worked someplace for thirty years. Guys with 7 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:20.079 crooked fingers, busted backs, who walked into the retirement sunset 8 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:22.640 with a gold watch and a handshake, then dying three 9 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:25.399 years later in the recliner on a golf course, forced 10 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:27.920 to sit at home, receiving a check in early retirement 11 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.559 with nothing but time. Feels like such a dream scenario 12 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:33.880 for these blue collar bounce around guys of the eighties 13 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:37.640 and nineties. I had not thought of that as not 14 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:39.479 wanting to work in exchange for money, as not a 15 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.560 wrestler carningy thing, but just a product of the eighties 16 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.039 and nineties who saw your parents and grandparents have no 17 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:48.280 fruitful retirement years. 18 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:50.200 Interesting, and it gets. 19 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.640 In your head and you try to have retirement years 20 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:55.479 while you're actively working, essentially, which some of these guys 21 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.600 were able to pull off. Very interesting. Philip wants no 22 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:01.920 question for Jack. In those periods when Sid was wrestling 23 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:06.519 away from WWE, did Bo Justice become bow Vicious? No, 24 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:11.000 he did not. He was absolutely always Bo Justice. But 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.359 because I had the Sid Vicious galub and he was 26 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.439 a totally separate wrestler, he had nothing to do with 27 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:20.400 the other Sids, and that was Sid Vicious. So there's 28 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:24.840 your answer. Chris has an interesting theory, he says on 29 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:26.879 the Sid Tribute show, you mentioned how by the time 30 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.079 the Jacks figures came out, Diesel and Razor were long 31 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:30.680 gone from the company. I don't know if you were 32 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.120 aware of this, but remember in Spider Man the animated series, 33 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.200 how hob Goblin was featured before Green Goblin and was 34 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.480 so prominent despite not really being a huge deal in 35 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.200 the comics. Apparently toy Biz mistakenly made way more Hobgoblin 36 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.159 figures than anyone else, so they decided to feature Hobgoblin 37 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.519 more prominently than they normally would have so kids would 38 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.000 buy the toy So it made me remember that. Actually, 39 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:54.280 I remember Hobgoblin being way pushed to the forefront of 40 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:55.920 that show in a way that didn't make any sense. 41 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:57.959 So it made me think maybe this is why they 42 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:01.280 introduced the fake diesel and racer. Maybe Jacks was pissed 43 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.640 to find out their big new action figureline feature two 44 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:04.680 guys in the first way. 45 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:05.760 Oh wow, who. 46 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.439 Weren't even on their show anymore. Some toy exact probably 47 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.800 didn't watch wrestling and didn't understand why you couldn't switch 48 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:14.439 them out like other actors. I'm not saying this is true, 49 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:15.439 but it's something to think about. 50 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.479 So, yeah, I just don't think they'd have would they 51 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:19.840 have that kind of pull over the company, they being 52 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.000 the toy manufacturer, the toy manufacturers, I mean, the company 53 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.039 was that they were just brand new that they came 54 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:29.000 out in ninety six, the Jacks Ones, So would they 55 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.599 have had It's not like they'd been like long, you know, 56 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.039 like long time associates. 57 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:36.240 Yeah. 58 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:37.960 See, I would almost put the pressure the other way. 59 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.000 I would think WWF would be worried about looking stupid 60 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.400 to them. Then Jack's coming to them and complaining per 61 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:48.000 se and getting anything changed. I would think it would 62 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.000 be more likely that WWF would try to get cute 63 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:54.080 and like try to avoid a discussion about having toys 64 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:55.759 on the shelf of guys who didn't work there. Anymore 65 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:56.719 just by coming up with fire. 66 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:00.240 I mean, but I would also say, you know, we're 67 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.439 making money off these guys, so yeah, who can you know? 68 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:03.479 That? 69 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.879 To me is always the Vince rationale exactly. 70 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:08.599 And I think, and I think what Chris is getting 71 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.680 at is maybe Jacks would actually accept, knowing nothing about wrestling, 72 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.759 that it's actually perfectly acceptable to just call somebody else 73 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:18.840 Razor and Diesel. Yeah, the fans wouldn't care about the 74 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.120 person under the costume. It's really interesting. He also says, ps, 75 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.159 the CID Hasbro has the same body slam as the 76 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.840 first Hogan Hasbro, but it's labeled power bomb on the package. 77 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.479 It is possible to make him do an okay power bomb, 78 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.919 but it's obviously meant to be a body slam. Yeah, 79 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:34.520 that's interesting, the same move, but you just give it 80 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:35.159 a different name. 81 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.800 Gorg Yeah, I know, I mean that was like one 82 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:44.319 not before I wanted more common moves. The the press 83 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.080 slam certainly was that a lot of those guys had. 84 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.120 Gordon was also inspired to write on the Bow Justice Front. 85 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.759 He writes, as a kid, my friend Dan had two 86 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.319 l J and Piper figures, and his fig fed the 87 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:56.599 main figure was naturally rowdy roddy Piper, but the other 88 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.280 was his twin brother, a jobber, ripping ritty by er. 89 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:01.599 There we go. 90 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.120 He also had two Awa Rick Flairs. Wow, one was fine, 91 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:06.840 but the other one had a face that was accidentally 92 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:11.360 burnt on a radiator. He was dubbed. Yeah, you had 93 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.479 to say it, I have to say it retarded Ron Flair. 94 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:20.680 Oh my god, Rick sometimes ron Flair would have been 95 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:25.319 funny enough. But yeah, Rick sometimes manager and an occasional jobber. 96 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.199 We still joke about this thirty five years later. 97 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:33.720 That's great, that's amazing, good stuff, Ron Flair, Rick and 98 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:34.839 Ron Flair. 99 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.959 Something like he's still when he's workshopping names and asking 100 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:40.120 Dusty for permission when. 101 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:41.879 He's first breaking in right right. 102 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.279 Steve wants you to know, Boss, that Pierce being Bond 103 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:48.160 was a massive deal in Ireland. All I bet, I 104 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.720 bet it was. The country, he writes, was in the 105 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.759 middle of a massive boom. So in Irish Bond was 106 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.879 the icing on the cake. Until I left school in 107 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.879 twenty eleven, our Irish language textbooks would have a celebrity 108 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.399 profile on a famous Irish person, and it was almost 109 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.639 always peer and for Boss and I'm gonna mispronounce it 110 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.240 drug hada d r o g h g d a 111 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.480 is pronounced Oh, he does it for me, okay, because 112 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.879 he's doing it to connect pronunciation, it's pronounced draw hada. 113 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:14.199 I guess that's something he read during the course of 114 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:14.879 the episode. 115 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.160 Oh made it. Probably I read. I did read a 116 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.560 bunch kick because when when we talked about Pierce and 117 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.079 we did his kind of early years in bio, we 118 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.600 I did talk about his Uh. Yeah, probably there are 119 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:28.959 probably a bunch of Irish names that I had no 120 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:30.319 idea what the fuck they were, right. 121 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:38.920 Yeah, that's that kind of thing's gonna happen. William writes, 122 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.399 I imagine Sid dispensing Vienna's with his softball bat, much 123 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.079 like a little league coach during practice. Oh my god, 124 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.120 big boys sausage on the two hot. I want to 125 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.920 see you dig. 126 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:56.839 Oh I I I believe that I could see that. 127 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.720 And he also brings the uh the Arkansas Intel. Vienna 128 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.480 sausages come forty eight cans to a case. It's usually 129 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.319 two layers of twenty four cans, separated by a thin 130 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.759 layer of cardboard and sealed and plastic. I would say 131 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:12.639 that it measures about ten by twenty one hundred and 132 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:16.480 fifty thousand cans makes four three twenty five cases. I 133 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.000 would say it would probably be around ten six foot 134 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:23.120 tall palletts. Can you imagine Sid's garage? Oh god, it 135 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:25.240 hits the automatic door button from his head when he 136 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:28.079 comes home again, you know, expecting to be able to 137 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:33.439 use the garage. Oh and Frank has not donning his part. 138 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.360 He hits the automatic door button from his house, so 139 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:37.319 the door opens as he's walking out to the garage, 140 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.319 and it's all just a wall of sausage. 141 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:39.680 Yep. 142 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.879 And there's always a few dented cans that leak the 143 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.240 gelatinous liquid. The smell that comes out of the garage 144 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:50.399 and a hot Arkansas summer day is enough to kill 145 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.600 one of Bischoff's prized elk. God damn Frank. Else it 146 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.519 says softball is huge in Arkansas, with no pro sports 147 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.000 teams except for the minor league baseball team, so college 148 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.279 sports are huge, and the men's baseball team and women's 149 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.040 softball team are highly revered. For what it's worth to 150 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.120 probably work rice fields is that's one of the few 151 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:09.680 crops that grows well. Very interesting. A lot of Arkansas 152 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.120 and town from William, which we appreciate. But yeah, apparently softball, 153 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.199 you know, it doesn't hit the same way in Arkansas 154 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.319 as it does to some other places that are like 155 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.959 he played softball? Like, what the fuck is that? Apparently 156 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.920 it was a respected thing. 157 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.240 I'm sure, I'm sure I would imagine that it wasn't. 158 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.879 But it must have been something bigger than we all 159 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:32.360 would think. 160 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.680 Right on our Buried a live episode, Blake has this 161 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.160 to say about who I can only assume is Jerry Lawler. 162 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.319 I bet Jerry just jerked off into his underwear and 163 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.560 goes to sleep. He then he pisses on the wall 164 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.120 at three am because half his dick hole is covered 165 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:55.000 in dried comh. 166 00:07:55.040 --> 00:08:00.759 Yeah, he totally yeah, because remember so he goes to 167 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:05.879 bed naked, so it's like all over the fucking bedspreads. 168 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.680 It's his time of year, bossy. Oh, I think he 169 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:10.879 had another fruitful Christmas season. 170 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.399 An I'm I am sure that he was thrilled. I'm 171 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.959 sure he and I'm sure he did nothing but enjoy 172 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.519 waking up Christmas morning to all the Santa Claus gifts 173 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.240 that he gave himself, like going through his stocking as 174 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.560 if he doesn't know what he's getting. 175 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.600 The sound of like him pushing something around inside his 176 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.559 stocking to get to the something lower. 177 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:39.600 Yep, yep, all by himself. He gave himself these gifts. 178 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.480 He's taking selfies in the Ralphie pink bunny costume. 179 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.600 Yep, yep. And then then all of a sudden, then 180 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.600 cut to the sound of like sizzling eggs and bacon 181 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:57.200 making himself a nice Christmas morning breakfast. Nothing wrong with 182 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:01.200 us at all, this is this is incredibly acceptable. Uh 183 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.399 not uh psychopathic behavior. 184 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.399 Oh, we're gonna miss him when he's gone. I know 185 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:22.600 the jammies he wears. Oh, just like the softness touching his. 186 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:34.080 The weird like innocent attempts at overhead selfies'. 187 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:39.360 Jared Lawler has a weird innocence. That's awesome, that's true. 188 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.240 And that's what he does. Like he does these like weird, 189 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:48.679 little fucking innocent selfies. Like such a problem. 190 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.159 You're in your you live next to him. You don't 191 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.360 know him that well, but your kitchen window, your kitchen 192 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.840 window look up looks into his backyard and you're like 193 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:00.000 washing a dish and Christmas morning and you look up 194 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.840 and he's standing in his yard in the Ralfie suit 195 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:04.600 just looking at you, not moving. 196 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:12.200 Oh my god, he's looking like right at your face, like. 197 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.480 Contact expressionless face expression, you know. 198 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:19.279 And you're like okay, you know. And you go down 199 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.279 and you start unloading some dishes from the dishwasher. You 200 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.720 come back up at the window and he's ten feet closer. 201 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.879 Run that one through rock. Oh my god, that's funny, 202 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.159 like absolutely impossible for him to make that distance in 203 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:35.960 that amount of time. 204 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.879 Oh, I just got silly. It's good light. Here we go. 205 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:44.360 So you look up. He's ten feet closer. You duck down. 206 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.840 You look up. He's ten feet closer. You duck down. 207 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.559 You look up, he's ten feet closer. He's like almost 208 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.080 up to the window. Now you duck down. You look up. 209 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.120 He's nowhere to be found. You look up. He's on 210 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:54.600 your roof. 211 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.679 Yeah, you're duck down. You look up. 212 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.200 He's halfway across the roof. You keep going. He keeps 213 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:04.320 going until he's like totally out of sight down the horizon, 214 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:06.559 and you look up. 215 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.879 He's in the air. He's just like the air. 216 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:16.559 He's floating, just floating. He's not that's the twist. He's 217 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.159 not coming to get you at all. He's looking past you. 218 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.480 You know, he's just like a wind up doll. 219 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.320 Oh God, goddamn funny at Lawler. 220 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.639 Such a creep hockey night. 221 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.840 CTE rights. I hope we get a lot of lap Sid. 222 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:37.480 We did. He's one of my favorites. Sid always reminds 223 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.000 me of Daffy in the old duck Ammic cartoon. He 224 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.759 recognizes that the business he's in is fake nonsense, but 225 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.399 isn't quite self aware enough to pick up that he's 226 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:49.159 as fake as the rest of it. Yep, be very 227 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.399 true of Sid. Let's see, Adam writes to us. Scenario 228 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.879 Sid stands at the pearly gates and the great hereafter 229 00:11:58.159 --> 00:11:59.720 all he has to do to enter paradise is to 230 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.759 cut a live promo without fucking up. Now, armed with 231 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:04.759 more than half a brain and vivid images of playing 232 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:08.039 softball racing through his mind, Boss, can he do it? 233 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:08.799 What say you? 234 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:11.759 Yes? 235 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:12.399 You can do it? 236 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:13.600 Yes now? 237 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:16.519 Clarkson writes, I would imagine that most of the Solar 238 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.919 system says, in one way or another, brother to themselves 239 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.360 as a way to add to the fun of listening 240 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.360 to any of the shows. However, this podcasting entertainment vehicle 241 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.240 is so far up my ass that when I dropped 242 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:27.840 something in the kitchen a couple of days ago, I 243 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.960 said brother out loud to myself, as one might use 244 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.440 damn or shit. I was not listening to the show 245 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.159 at the time, nor was I thinking about it or 246 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:38.840 anything involving wrestling. It was thinking, for me, we have 247 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.720 reached full integration. Brother. Yes, Oh I can attest to that. 248 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:47.679 I say brother all day. Yeah, when anything even mildly 249 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.919 unexpected happens, I say it. 250 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:51.679 So I've started doing it too. 251 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:53.600 I say it like I'm listening to MPR, Like someone 252 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:57.039 says something on the radio and I'm like, brother, I 253 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.759 just I just want to it's boring, So I just 254 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.159 want to make it seem like what the person and 255 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.480 just said is somehow objectionable or suspicious. 256 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.679 I forget I did it, you know, I did it 257 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:13.440 in the presence of people recently. Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, 258 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:17.919 like it was just a I forget what happened. There 259 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.080 was someone's like a brother, and it's like, you know, 260 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.320 I'm like, oh wait, this person doesn't don't know what 261 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.200 I'm You don't know what I'm talking, no idea why 262 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.840 I just made that noise. You don't know why I 263 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.600 would say that word at that time for any reason 264 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:30.919 at all. 265 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:36.120 Two of us. Oh God, Ken has a good one, 266 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.200 he says, Uh co chairs, Sid stinks, never was a draw. 267 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.559 This tribute should be great. But if anyone had to 268 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.559 work with someone like Sid, he'd be the co worker 269 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:44.840 you hate the most. 270 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.919 Yeah, that one loves him apparently, but I imagine he's 271 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.759 he was not easy to be around. 272 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.960 Yeah, he's he's he's he's kind of a pain in 273 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.559 the ass, the salt of the earth. He knows how 274 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.399 to ye, he knows how to keep people in his 275 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.320 good graces, but the second you get in the way 276 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.440 of his convenience, you're fucked. Like he doesn't care about 277 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.559 you anymore. But you can be useful to him. You know. 278 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.320 That's different than right, him being a nice guy. 279 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:12.799 Right. 280 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.799 This is from Meyer Mania the Homie Sean Let's hit 281 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:16.240 It Boss. 282 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.519 In early nineteen ninety nine, between his stintson WW ANDWCW, 283 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.159 I had the privilege of seeing Sid in Quincy, Illinois. 284 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.799 Harley Race had just started World League Wrestling the WLW, 285 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.799 a nice little indie outfit in the Midwest that still 286 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.519 exists around Saint Louis. To hype his TV taping at 287 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.200 the Quincy High Gym. He booked the Master and Ruler 288 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.919 of the World. This was my first pro wrestling show. 289 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:42.960 I was in seventh grade from a town of roughly 290 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.039 one hundred people and going to Quincy, population forty thousand 291 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.679 was the big city to a kid like me. My 292 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.240 dad was one of the few lapsed dads that knew 293 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.879 it used to be better, but still watched the product 294 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.840 and didn't shame me for doing the same. That night, 295 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:02.960 Sid drew probably a few hundred to the gym, not 296 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.039 a big crowd, but a decent amount for a town. 297 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.480 Matt Size Gordon solely worked for WLW in one of 298 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.799 his last ventures in the business before he passed, so 299 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:13.240 I got to see him Man Harley, though admittedly I 300 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.480 had no idea I was in the presence of Bumpman 301 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.679 and the pimp king of the cad at the time. Also, 302 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:23.000 Trevor Murdoch was on the card, who was and probably 303 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.759 still is the highest profile wrestler to be developed out 304 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:31.759 of Hardley's territory. Sid squashed whoever. He was such a 305 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.080 giant beast compared to the others on the card, But 306 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:37.480 the absolute highlight was before he finished off the jobber. 307 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.200 He gave that snappy Sid look to the crowd. Our 308 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.600 eyes met. I yelled power bomb as loud as I could. 309 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:51.600 Sid's eyes grew wide, and he asked power bomb yes, 310 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.600 to which I nodded and pumped my fists as this 311 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:59.320 poor bastard jobber took probably the biggest ride of his career. 312 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:01.799 I'll never forget it, and to this day, my dad 313 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:05.399 will still bring it up from time to time. I've 314 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:08.200 been to several w W and AW shows since, from 315 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.399 Wrestlmingia twenty two to All Out, but I'll always remember 316 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.559 my dad taking me and my sister out to eat 317 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:18.600 at Steak and Shake, going to buy WW the Music 318 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.960 Volume three at Walmart, and heading over to Quinsey High 319 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.559 for my first live journey into the sport of king. Yes, 320 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:31.679 all the best from one of year ogs. 321 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:33.360 Who is it? 322 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:36.919 Oh, Sean? Oh? 323 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.559 I thought you cut out for a second. Oh no, Well, 324 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:44.159 there's absolutely great stuff, Anthony writes to your co chairs. 325 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.360 I liked at the time to memorialize it of that 326 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.559 fucking cast to help do that. Sid isn't a guy 327 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.279 that comes to mind when you think about your wrestling 328 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.799 with Aunt Rushmore or even your top twenty favorite wrestlers 329 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.559 of all time. But he had something very rare, and 330 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.120 that's believability. His intensity was attention grabbing and an intangible 331 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.679 that helps you suspend your disbelief while watching wrestling, And 332 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.920 for that in his star power, I consider him underrated nowadays. 333 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.480 I quickly familiarized myself with them in nineteen ninety two 334 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.799 when I started watching wrestling weekly. Kind Of hard to 335 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:11.599 believe nowadays, but back then I only knew of him 336 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.240 thanks to VHS rentals at blockbustered my local mom and 337 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.559 pop video stores. I can think of three major pay 338 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.000 per views I would run over and over again, WWF 339 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.160 SummerSlam nineteen ninety one, Hey now our first episode, Royal 340 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:24.680 ronint ninety two, and wrestle Mania eight. Absolutely, that's a 341 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:27.440 holy trinity right there. Three shows that sid played a 342 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.880 huge role in his heel on Hogan. He'll turn on 343 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.279 Hogan was excellent, Perhaps the final feud of a babyface 344 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.279 Hogan that mattered his barbershop interview hyping WrestleMania eight was legendary. 345 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.599 Who else could bought a chair shot, get baby powder 346 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:40.559 all over their face, take that and look like a 347 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.119 psycho killer and have it improved the segment. Only Sid 348 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:43.640 could do that. 349 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:45.160 Yeah, exactly. 350 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.240 My favorite memory of Sid and when I always treasure, 351 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.960 was attending the nineteen ninety six Survivor series as an 352 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.119 eight year old. Wow, I'd imagine my excitement as my 353 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.519 parents told me the day of the show that we 354 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.640 were going to go. I still remember that train ride 355 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.200 to Madith the Square Garden, checking all the wrestling magazines 356 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.279 of the new stand in Time Square, seeing people were 357 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.079 encroasting makeup in the garden, which made me feel uneasy 358 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.559 as I was a huge WWF fan. The garden wasn't 359 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.319 sold out, but it was. That's wild because that was 360 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.039 you know, that was still a fresh thing, just like 361 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.400 a month old at that point. Yeah, that's a good point. 362 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.799 The garden wasn't sold out, but it was rocking. As 363 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:16.279 young as I was, I went with the momentum of 364 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.160 the crowd that night. I didn't boo brat Hart, but 365 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.680 I did cheer Steve Austin too. I was swayed in 366 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.599 a cheering Sid to win the title that night as 367 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.880 he defeated my then favorite Seawn Michaels in the main event. 368 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:26.240 Can you imagine that showed up to an eight year 369 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.839 old and deciding to boo Shawn Michaels even though you 370 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:29.559 love the guy. 371 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.240 Because that's yep. I mean, hey, you know what, I'll 372 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.680 tell you what. I had a similar experience the opposite 373 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.400 way the year prior when I went to that Worcester 374 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:44.799 in High Gear Tour show and I go there expecting 375 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.799 the bou Shawn Michaels, and everyone's cheering for him, and 376 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.640 I'm like, well, I guess I better cheer for Shawn Michaels. 377 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.039 It was an electric night and something I never experienced before. 378 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.079 I never saw the top face get turned on in 379 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.039 my fandom. SidD the power to do that here in 380 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.599 New York, first against hulccan at ninety two Rumble and 381 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:02.319 again against Don Michael's. I will choose to remember the nights, 382 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.680 the highs rather of Sid's career and how fun it 383 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:06.400 was to be a fen during his ninety one ninety 384 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.400 two run and the fall of ninety six, where the 385 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.000 seeds of the Attitude era were planted. As always, thanks 386 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:12.839 for the cast, guys, I've been a loyal listener for 387 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:14.920 years and years now. I look forward to the lapse 388 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:16.839 treatment in a RAAR review of a raw during a 389 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:19.119 great time period. I will finish up my email bass 390 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:21.799 and the coachairs. What is your favorite Sid figures? Glube 391 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.200 Hasbro or Jacks? Oh my god, it's not even close, 392 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:26.839 Globe even close. 393 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.599 Yeah, just just for the fact that he's he's got 394 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.000 those those giant fists, you know, and he can do 395 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.960 the he can do the club into the back. 396 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.839 Yeah, perfect, yep, And it just it just it's the 397 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:42.680 only figure that actually looks like Sid, right, it resembles him. 398 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.079 The hair works in the back, the musculature is right, 399 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.079 he's a little taller than the other figures. It's great. 400 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:50.240 And he's got the sing lead on which was to 401 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.960 cover the stab, the the the surgery scar from the 402 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:58.519 broken ribs. As we found out, Blake, the Master, who 403 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.680 would ever say the Jacks Sid is their favorite? Why 404 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.640 even't put that on there? Honestly, that thing was a nightmare. 405 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:07.160 I mean it looked so weird. 406 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:08.119 Toy sucked. 407 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.720 I mean his face was horrible, horrible. His eyes were 408 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.880 just like white dots. Yeah, and they were like wide eyed, like. 409 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:21.039 It looked very weird. 410 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:24.440 Blake writes, the Master and Ruler, it feels like a 411 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:27.119 darker place without Sid. I know he didn't give a fuck, 412 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:29.200 and that's why we love him. We admire his business 413 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.319 view of this Carney circus that has ruined our one 414 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.920 chance on this rock we call earth. I think that's 415 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:35.880 the intangible that he had that people couldn't put their 416 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.200 finger on. Everyone wants to not give a fuck, and 417 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:41.079 no one knows how except Sid. The man left a 418 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.599 big money to play softball in Arkansas. Man, there's no 419 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:47.680 more giving not a fuck than calling Arkansas home, which 420 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:49.799 leads me to my personal Sid anecdote. And like everything 421 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:51.960 in this lapsed life, it's bullshit, but it's real bullshit. 422 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:53.759 For all my life, I've had a family in Memphis, 423 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.079 brother Lawla Coca Cola Middle Schools hoof anyway to get 424 00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.160 to Memphis from the West, one must first drive through 425 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.039 West Memphis, Arkansaw, which anyone worth their salt knows this 426 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:03.599 is where the Master and the rule of the world 427 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.359 hails from. So every year, for probably thirty years, when 428 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.000 I would drive down there, I would have my head 429 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:10.359 on a swivel in West Memphis looking for large Cadillacs 430 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.079 or town cars driven by a curly headed monster. It 431 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.400 never happened, and I guess it never will now. I 432 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.599 do have faith. One day, though, something will happen on 433 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:19.519 that drive, and when it does, I'll say, can we 434 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:21.480 do that again? Then my wife will look at me 435 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:23.480 with a dead eye and crooked mouth and drool while 436 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:29.079 she says we're live, pal which I'll say, it's fine, 437 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:32.920 yest in Peace, Power and pussy Master, lapsed locker room 438 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.160 lad Brother, Blake, Josh Geert, thank you very much for 439 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:39.200 bumping up that pledge. We love it. Zack has a 440 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:43.279 very provocative question. It's just one line, boss, Imagine working 441 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:45.319 at a shooting range? 442 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:53.839 Is that it? Yep? Imagine working in a shooting range. 443 00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:58.640 I mean Bend was shooting range before? 444 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:00.440 About it? 445 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:07.160 Okay, working work? 446 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.680 Get your ask. Yeah, you can't go out there having 447 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.759 fake fights at the shooting range. Okay. I think that's 448 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.559 where Tony van Silva was a shooting range and I 449 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:27.039 think so too. Okay. A tool Belt for Daddy has 450 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.200 an interesting take on our premium live event live calls 451 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.480 on Patreon. He says, the tag the co chairman used 452 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:34.200 is we watch you don't have to, But the truth 453 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.880 is I watch so I can also listen to the 454 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:37.519 live call. 455 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:38.920 There we go. 456 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.559 The reason people watch modern WWE how weird is that? 457 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:46.599 That's I'm sorry, Roshan Patel, thank you very much for 458 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.599 your pledge. Welcome into the inner circle. Triple Biz writes. 459 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.240 Vince sleeps in one of those water tanks from Empire 460 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:53.799 strikes back. 461 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.799 Oh yes, yes he does. 462 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.079 He does. 463 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:03.079 With a fucking you know, with a mouthpiece, you know, 464 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.240 like a face mask. There, Yes, he's and then when 465 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:08.920 he's uh yeah, when he wakes up, he floats up 466 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:09.319 to the top. 467 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.319 Twenty twenty four was a year of pulling random shows 468 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.680 for the entirety of our you know, actual formal show 469 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.000 coverage on the main field, and that men ECW and 470 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:24.960 that men Living Dangerously and that meant that Roberta decided 471 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.240 that it's time to write this email about a night 472 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:36.000 that Roberta spent in the midst in two thousand. 473 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:38.319 Greeting as coach chairman, just writing in to share some 474 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:43.279 bleak memories that your ECW Living Dangerously episode dislodged about 475 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:48.599 one of the longest, dumbest nights of my life. This 476 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.960 period was the peak of my contrarianism infected wrestling fandom. 477 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.920 I was laid to the dirt sheets wrestling Internet, but 478 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.759 when I discovered it I became one of those kinds 479 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:03.839 of fans. Everyone listening knows what I mean. So I 480 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.240 got into ECW way more, which led me to July 481 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:12.720 twenty first, two thousand, when I attended my one and 482 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:18.400 only ECW event, when myself and four other teenage losers 483 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:21.240 packed into a tiny car and drove two hours to 484 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:25.240 the mediocre city of Decatur, Illinois for a house show 485 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.200 attended by eight hundred other lost souls. We had no 486 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.359 idea this was a dying promotion at the time, but 487 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:37.359 I invite you to take in this card. Bill Wiles 488 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:44.400 defeated Julio Fantastico means nothing to me. FBI defeated Christian 489 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.799 York and Joey Matthews means nothing to me. Willie Frasier 490 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:53.480 defeated Red Dog means nothing. Yes, Chris Chetty and Nova 491 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.960 defeated Easy Money and Chris Hammrick. I remember, I know 492 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:01.160 the names Chris Chetty and Nova. S W. Champ Just 493 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:04.519 Incredible defeated Kid Cash. I know, I think I know 494 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:09.440 Kid Cash. I know Just Incredible. Tommy Drina Dreamer, Danny 495 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:15.000 Doring and Amish Roadkill defeated Simon Diamond, Just Johnny Swinger 496 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:20.599 and c w Anderson, Sandman Into Jerry defeated Scottie Anton 497 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:28.200 and Rhino Rob Van Dam defeated Steve Corino. Some highlights. 498 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.559 Seeing RVD that close that closely was still was, and 499 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:36.000 still remains one of my all time live wrestling highlights. 500 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:42.160 And now the in retrospect low lights. Yes, teenage me 501 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.680 was way too excited to see France scene then managing 502 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.400 just incredible in person. The crowd loved Sandman's entrance. One 503 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.319 of the dirt bags in my group sprinted over to 504 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.920 where Sandman came out into the crowd to get some 505 00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:59.039 cheap beer poured on his face. As a proud daygo, 506 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.720 I bought an f the eyeshirt we chanted absolutely appealing, 507 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.319 appalling things rather all night that I'd rather not repeat. 508 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.119 And here's where it really goes off the rails. The 509 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.759 wrestlers were signing autographs and hanging out after the show 510 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.759 at their hotel. For some reason, I have a red 511 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:21.920 roof Inn burned in my head. RVD smartly was nowhere 512 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.759 to be seen. Many of the wrestlers there were already 513 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:32.119 absolutely Shitthouse, especially Sandman. I didn't drink and was pretty sheltered, 514 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.880 so this site was pretty eye opening and sad to me. 515 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.640 I got autographs all over the sleeve of my ECW 516 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:44.599 Extreme music album. One friend stole a folding chair to 517 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:49.799 get autographed. No wrestlers wanted to talk. They looked miss. 518 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:53.319 Awesome. 519 00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:58.000 A man with a mustache, glasses, jean shorts, and black 520 00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:03.079 graphic shirt danced alone on a dance floor to DMX's 521 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.720 party up. I can't shake this one. This is where 522 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.079 I really started to rethink my fandom. The oldest member 523 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.119 of our group was fixated on getting a picture with 524 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.759 Justin Credible. He kept blowing us off but telling us 525 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:22.319 to stick around, so we had to stick around. I 526 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.640 called my mom more than once to let her know 527 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.319 my arrival. ETA was getting later and later, tired and 528 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.319 annoyed at my friends. My ECW fandom was dying by 529 00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.559 the minute. At two am, Just Incredible by then so 530 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:39.759 drunk and high he was on another planet, agreed to 531 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:46.079 take a picture our group of five. Justin Francine, Sally Graziano, 532 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.839 Huge in person, and a few ring rats walked down 533 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:54.160 this hotel hallway and into a parking lot, where he 534 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:56.720 took a pick with us. I wish I had a 535 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:02.319 copy to share, but I remember him basically hanging off 536 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:02.920 of us. 537 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:04.720 No. 538 00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.559 About ten minutes from home at four am, We've got 539 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.640 pulled over. We were definitely out way past local curfew laws. 540 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.759 We show the police our autographs to back up our story. 541 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:21.000 I wish I knew what was going through their heads. Mercifully, 542 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.960 my mom was too relieved I wasn't dead to be 543 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.000 mad at me when I walked in. About seven hours later, 544 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.119 two guys in the group came over to ask if 545 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.799 I wanted to go with them to Peoria for that 546 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.200 night's ECWTV taping. My mom laughed in their faces and 547 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.480 told them to take yes. While she wouldn't have allowed it, 548 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.720 I didn't want to go anyway, so she saved me 549 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:46.640 from having to say no. This night pretty much murdered 550 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.519 my interest in ECW. Boss, I want you to feel 551 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.839 vindicated about your feelings towards this promotion. 552 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.720 That that's as east W as memories of guests right there, man, yep, 553 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:02.559 and a huge miss huge, a missed opportunity. Uh you 554 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.200 know when the Misfits and Action were created in w 555 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.920 CW by Vince Russo, famously, Hugh Morris was renamed Hugh 556 00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.920 g Erection. Remember that, Yes, I would suggest in the email, 557 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:19.000 or maybe think of it. Hugh Gin person might be. 558 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.519 I mean good for for Gracian Yeah. 559 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:28.079 H h g h middle named g I N last 560 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.599 name person. Yeah, yeah it works. That does sound like 561 00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.440 such a great atmosphere of Boston. Are you so mad 562 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.799 you missed all those ECW shows? 563 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.359 Yeah, I'm so. I imagine that the arena smelled like 564 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:43.119 piss and shit, uh and and peppers and onions. Sure, 565 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.200 so I'm good. I'm good never having experienced that, never 566 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.480 wanting to, never desiring it, never needing it. 567 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.480 Well, A tool belt for Daddy has Living Dangerously memories 568 00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.680 as well. Greetings co chairs. 569 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.559 Listening to. 570 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.039 Listening to the Living Dangerously two thousand rundown reminded me 571 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.039 of the first ECW event that came through the Saint 572 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.680 Louis area, which I attended April sixteen of that year, 573 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.920 a mere week after Awesome debuted Mike Austin and WCW 574 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.960 in two days after dropping the belt to Taz. While 575 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.319 labeled as Russell Palooza two thousand, it was essentially just 576 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.319 a TV taping and if memory serves, was more of 577 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.400 an Angle Palooza. But I digress Taz was not on 578 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:23.759 the show. 579 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:25.680 The Angle Pull. 580 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.000 Day prior was a fan fest that we attended. 581 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:29.359 Sounds like a Curt Angle special. 582 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.720 I kind of like that, like just to a show 583 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.839 that's only angles. Yeah, Angle Pollute. 584 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:36.599 It's called a Vince Russo book. 585 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.640 I know exactly, I've seen it before. The day prior 586 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:41.599 there was a fan fast that we attended. We bought 587 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.559 posters that we got autographed by a dozen or so 588 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.039 of the guys in true CW fashion. The poster was 589 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.319 left over from an April seventh event in Warren, Ohio, 590 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.039 and still featured Mike Awesome as schedule to appear. On 591 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:54.759 my poster, Sally crossed out Mike Ausam's name, prompting Mikey 592 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:59.359 to change the phrasing to read Mikey is Awesome. Sal 593 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:04.759 also wrote dl z nick with an arrow to Mike's 594 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.759 name on my Buddies poster, the word which I now 595 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.759 understand to simply be Dick and Carney. Oh I see 596 00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:14.839 dizz brother Dyl's nick became at the time a mystery 597 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.599 that had to be unraveled. Sale told us to ask 598 00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.720 Joey what it meant. Joey played dumb, as did Fran 599 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:20.960 scene so as the twenty year old idiots we were. 600 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.039 We wrote DL's nick on eight pieces of poster board 601 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.240 and took it to the show the next night, chanting it. 602 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.680 When the FBI came out, Sal saw us, shook his 603 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.039 head and laughed. Fast forward a month and much of 604 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.079 the same group are attending hardcore Heaven and Milwaukee, another 605 00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:36.720 show I can't wait to come out of the hopper 606 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.000 thanks to more Rhino and Lori Fullington Shenanigans. I believe 607 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.440 the FBI were in the opening match, which normally gets 608 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.079 our Dil's nick chant on the pay per view audio 609 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.680 along with Sal's these fucking guys again reaction to it, 610 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.000 but it also features a brief power outage thanks to 611 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.400 the Wien concert taking place in the same building at 612 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.119 the same time. All told, we probably attended a half 613 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:00.559 dozen shows over the year two thousand and then. While 614 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.559 the shows weren't necessarily great, the memories are. And I'll 615 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.039 always have a soft spot for Sal's fat ass, and 616 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:08.759 he attaches a picture of. 617 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.119 He's also got soft spots in his fat ass as well. 618 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.160 Yes, man, Yeah, that was it. That was an era, man, 619 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.200 That was the time to be an ECW fan, That's 620 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.160 for sure. That's a unique one, so thanks very much 621 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.000 for those. That's of course, part of our Living Dangerously 622 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.759 two thousand coverage, which is Mike Awesome leaving the company 623 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.759 and the details on his contract coming to WCW and 624 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.200 all that and his last pay per view appearance as 625 00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:38.240 a ECW champion. Teddy says Jack calling the match while 626 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.839 the Boss falls asleep is still infinitely more entertaining than 627 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:46.039 any other wrestling podcasts, So uh, lick her up in 628 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.839 the new year, Boss, that's the suggestion, and says I'll 629 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.799 bet Hogan still wakes up in a cold sweat, knowing 630 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.480 he never got his win back against Yokozuna before he died. 631 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.559 Surely he tries to go back to sleep by convincing 632 00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.880 himself it's okay because he won their first match, but 633 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.680 surely up all night and probably wakes Fish Off up 634 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.720 in Wyoming to yell at him for never signing a 635 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:09.119 nine hundred pound yokes at the very end. Yeah, BJ Lalande, 636 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.799 thank you for opping that pledge. 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We talked about it and Unburied Alive nineteen 649 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.280 ninety six. He doesn't think it was good because he 650 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.840 doesn't understand who he really is. 651 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.920 Oh shit, yes, that's exactly. 652 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.920 Joe writes, happy follow the JP. This is obviously we're 653 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.400 going back a bit since officially past Labor Day. I've 654 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:25.880 been going back and forth on what to write you 655 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.360 guys for about a month. Still can't decide because there 656 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.639 is just too much. Long story short. I came upon 657 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.440 the podcast in the most lapsed way. I just downloaded 658 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.480 all your old episodes from the way back machine and 659 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.400 loaded up a new MP three player. I immediately joined Patreon, 660 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.760 because pay for what you support. That's the key. Joe, 661 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:46.039 let's fucking go. Let's like the way longer email to come. 662 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:47.599 And you will be rewarded. 663 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.840 And that's the thing. It's all you get nothing out 664 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.039 of it. Have wrestling gifts. Longtime supporter. Great to see 665 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.400 Pa again. Thanks for the support, man, Frank from Askogie. 666 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.639 We appreciate the cake. We appreciate all that you do, 667 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.199 Ryan writes. During this Jack and JP joked about having 668 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.960 Summer Slam in February, which sounds absurd. 669 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:06.400 But I'm surprised they don't. 670 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.239 Honest man, he points out, if it would occurs somewhere 671 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.639 in the southern Hemisphere, like Australia, then it could accurately 672 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.079 be called Summer Slam because. 673 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.039 They could be Yeah, you know, you could have Summer Slam, 674 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:18.280 you know, anywhere, honestly, Yeah, anywhere below the equator. Summer 675 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.920 Slam could happen in the winter, and should happen in 676 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.119 the winter, that right, you think? So, yeah, our winter, Yeah, 677 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.000 would have to. I tell you it's what it's actually 678 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.639 a dream of mine. I want to go down to. 679 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:31.239 That. 680 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.639 There's a there's a city at the southernmost tip of 681 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:42.119 South America called Ushuaia, and they have a massive winter 682 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:49.000 Solstice party, like an event celebration, but it's their winter Solstice, 683 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.039 so it's June. Wow, so I want to go in June. 684 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.519 Like I was like, you know, I've I've experienced winter 685 00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.880 where it's warm, but I've never experienced my summer when 686 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:02.559 it's cold, and I want to do that. 687 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:05.599 I've never even heard of that. That's crazy. 688 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:12.000 Yeah, I had I did a thing for uh when 689 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.360 my kid was in like kindergarten. They had us put 690 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.559 on a you know, they had us put on a 691 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.360 show for them, Like they said, can you you know, 692 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.559 they want us to arrange a holiday like a non 693 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:31.159 denominational holiday party, a holiday show with the kids and stuff. 694 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.039 And I was like, all right, well when we go 695 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.000 hard on this and like pick a bunch of different 696 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.039 like random right, you know, winter celebrations. And then I 697 00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:40.559 found I like, well, wait a minute, you know, not 698 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.719 everybody celebrates winter when we do. There's a whole half 699 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.119 of the world that we kind of ignore, you know, 700 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:52.519 that we don't ever really consider that they celebrate, you know, 701 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.199 winter during our summer, like they deserve to have some recognition. 702 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.800 And so I found out I found out this this 703 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.320 this city down in South America, like honestly, like you can't. 704 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.360 I think it's the southernmost tip of the world. 705 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.480 Wow, I've never heard of this in my whole life. 706 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.239 Yeah, yeah, it's wild. I want to go. I want 707 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.719 to go, although the thought of the plane ride does 708 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:19.920 fucking turn me completely off. 709 00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.039 But oh, what's the total what's the total damage on that? 710 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.360 I have no idea. I did look it up one time, 711 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.079 but I haven't done it in a while. It's it's 712 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:33.000 in Argentina and it's like way way way down. Yeah, 713 00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.760 and uh, I would love yet, I'd love I would 714 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:41.280 love to go. And I think I think I think 715 00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.360 you can even take I don't maybe I maybe I 716 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.719 I imagine this or not. I don't know, but I 717 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.039 think you can take like I don't know, like it's 718 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.840 close enough to Antarctica, like you can take you know, 719 00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:00.159 like uh, maybe helicopter trips Antarctica. I don't remember if 720 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:01.519 that was actually the case or not, if I just 721 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:07.000 made that up. But yeah, oh no, it's a here, 722 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:08.880 it's a well, it's it's still a ways. I guess 723 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.480 it's six hundred and eighty miles from the Antarctic peninsula. Wow. 724 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.639 Yeah, that must be a multi multi hop journey. 725 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.079 Oh yeah, I would imagine. So I mean it's way way. 726 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:21.960 Down multiple forms of transit there. 727 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:29.000 I imagine that that Apple Maps would not have a 728 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:35.039 an easy an easy route maybe Nationals. Actually, I bet 729 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:35.320 it does. 730 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.400 It doesn't sound like a direct trip, let's put it 731 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:37.800 that way. 732 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.000 No, no, no, I'd probably have to make a couple 733 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:40.440 of stops. 734 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.760 Well, unfortunately for us, Tim made a stop at a 735 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.920 liquor store in Rhode Island over the summer because hul 736 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.840 Cogan was out promoting his beer. Remember this is America 737 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.840 whatever it was called, weel American beer and. 738 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.119 Is he going to be the secretary of of of embibment. 739 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.559 It's zero to beer, of tobacco, alcohol and fire. 740 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:02.000 There we go. 741 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.119 Yeah, yes, yes, it means to be seen. 742 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.320 Haul Cogan was doing a tour Rhode Island liquor stores 743 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.639 on August twenty seventh and August twenty eighth in support 744 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.679 of his beer Bent brand, Real American Beer. I waited 745 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.360 in line for several hours at Heritage Liquors in Cramson, 746 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.760 Rhode Island to get my chance to meet him, and 747 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.039 figured I would mention Sid since I had just rewatched 748 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.519 their match following his passing, I recorded the attached audio. 749 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.559 The first part is muffled because his agent or handler 750 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.480 took my phone to take photos, but it clears up 751 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.760 shortly after. The part they got me and I initially 752 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.880 missed was him saying, freaks me out. Dude. You guys 753 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.000 might get a kick out of it. Oh yeah, thank 754 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.840 you for the bottom of my heart, for everything you 755 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.159 guys do. The cast has been an integral part of 756 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.000 my life for these past few years. I also touched photos, 757 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.119 one of me and him and one of his Jordans. 758 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.760 Ha ha, that's wild. 759 00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.840 Oh we've got a dispatch from the field. What do 760 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:00.760 you say you want to hear from the. 761 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:02.719 I got to hear this ship. 762 00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:06.239 I'm sorry. 763 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.800 Yeah, it's it's always three. 764 00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:19.360 That's I know. 765 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.440 It's so said, always like that freaks me out. 766 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.400 Yeah he was. He was a little different. 767 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:27.320 Oh yeah, I'm. 768 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:28.880 Sure you got story. Is little good. I'm sure you 769 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.400 got story. You want to hear me? Yeah? 770 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:30.760 Bad? 771 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.159 Thanks man, take care? 772 00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.480 Hey, thank you. That brought freaks me out. He's always 773 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.480 a little different, freaking out. You're talking to me, brother, 774 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:42.880 that freaks me out. 775 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:48.360 H It comes in threes, dude, could I be am? 776 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.320 I wait a minute? Am I the third man? 777 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.000 Who who roller? 778 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:02.639 Wait? 779 00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:11.039 Monkeys. Yep, good point, that's exactly it. John wants this monkeys. 780 00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.559 John wants us to know that comedian Patrese O'Neill wrote 781 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.079 for WWE in two thousand. 782 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:21.000 Boss Oh Boy, Oh Boy, the late great stand up comedian, 783 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.519 spent perhaps the shortest stint on WB's creative team as 784 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.719 anyone in history, sometime around November of two thousand. As 785 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.119 the story goes, according to Patrise O'Neil's manager, Jason Steinberg, quote, 786 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.679 someone from WE at the time saw Patrese perform one 787 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.440 night in New York, and shortly after that we were 788 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:42.039 approached by them about Patrise working there. And according to 789 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:48.280 O'Neill's widow von de Carlo, they had him up to 790 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.079 Vince's house in Connecticut and he went on one week 791 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.880 of shows. That's it. At the end of that week, 792 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.920 according to his story, Patrese told me himself, when we 793 00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.559 worked together on his VH one show Web Junk, McMahon 794 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.679 handed him a thirteen week contract in his travel info 795 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.760 for the next month of TV tapings. Patrese took one 796 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.159 look at it and told her I have shows. That 797 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.119 was Patrese, a comedian through and through, even in the 798 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.480 face of a dream job. That's also an example of 799 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.599 how it is to work for Vince McMahon. He makes 800 00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.320 wrestling his life and expects you to do the same 801 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.079 while under his employ As De Carlo told me, Patrese 802 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.320 described working for ww Creative as a quote cult. 803 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:36.039 Oh, come on, that's unfair that the. 804 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.800 Vibe felt like, quote you can do the rest of 805 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.039 your life. When Vince says so. 806 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.280 It's so true, man, so true. And we've heard that. 807 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.480 It's like over and over again from people who come 808 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.760 out the other side. It's like, yeah, he doesn't say 809 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:55.800 you can't have a life, but you don't know when 810 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.440 you can have a life. Like, Okay, I guess I'm 811 00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.440 working this Saturday month morning and afternoon. I thought it 812 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.519 was my day off, but Vince decided that there's something 813 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:05.719 that has to be resolved today. 814 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.360 I didn't say you had a day off, right exactly. 815 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.440 I didn't say, hey, you know, you can take the 816 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.480 next two days to yourself and enjoy your family, enjoy 817 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.559 the night off, go out to the town. I didn't 818 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.519 say that. I said good night, Wow, see you. 819 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.000 In the wow, see you in the morning. And Vince 820 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.400 needs it now. Vince needs you now. It's not complicated. 821 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:31.199 Aren't you having fun? 822 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:31.519 Right? 823 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:33.039 This is fun? 824 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:33.760 Your dream job. 825 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:40.920 Working is life, Life is work, Life is a work. 826 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.159 What Robbie oh Sullivan, Welcome to the ept or, Nathan Cooper, 827 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.199 Chris Jones, s L Brown, Matias Soto Ramirez. How about 828 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.320 ah ah ah you coming in with the big pledge, 829 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.400 Lucky Lugucci and Matt Anderson and Justin Schiller and William Lenhart. 830 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.880 We want to thank everybody for ledging to that cast 831 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.320 on Patreon and helping it, help making it more than 832 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.679 even a going concern. Justin Wrights. I discovered your show 833 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.400 after watching the movie Iron Claw. This is a new way, 834 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.239 new way. After I watched the movie, I needed to 835 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.880 get an emergency spinal fusion surgery. I would be later 836 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.159 for months, so I decided to google the hoonare X 837 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.079 to learn more. I stumbled upon the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast, 838 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.039 and allow me to say, The Lamentable Tragedy is the 839 00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.880 most in depth, top to bottom, unbelievable piece of work 840 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.519 I ever heard on a single subject. Unable to move much, 841 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.400 I listened all about Fritz and his boys and realized 842 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.639 the movie was not a fourth as good as your guys, 843 00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.760 work a little about me. I'm forty one, hulkamaniac as 844 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.159 a kid and lapsed the first time. After Hulk left, 845 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.679 I peaked in the nWo, but it wasn't the same 846 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.400 in high school. I peaked in on the nWo in 847 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.559 high school. I broke my ribs playing football and the 848 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.639 school provided me transportation to school. It was nineteen ninety eight, 849 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.760 and I'm sure you'll both appreciate this. I rode to 850 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.519 school with the special needs kids and they were all 851 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.280 into wrestling. I started watching again and was all about 852 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.559 the attitude. Ear. I even't had to turn to my 853 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.719 DX sucket shirt. You're right, I even had to turn 854 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.519 my DX cucket shirt inside out at school. Living in 855 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.119 New Jersey, I was able to get ECW simulcasts on 856 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.480 Friday nights. I was hooked again. I went with the 857 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.119 Wrestling Buddy to the two thousand and one King of 858 00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.280 the Ring, another show you expertly covered. It was so 859 00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.000 close we got hit with glass when Shane came flying 860 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.159 through from the other side. 861 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:22.760 Wow. 862 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.360 I was totally ready for a lasting golden era of wrestling. 863 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.519 After the con Continental Arena exploded when Booker t put 864 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.280 Steve Austin through the announced table. Sadly it was not 865 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:33.639 to be. I was lapsed again after the Invasion pay 866 00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.400 per view, as were so many As were so many 867 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.840 between going to college, the brand split, pissing me off, 868 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.559 no NWL one flair, I just gave up. Fast forward 869 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.360 to twenty twenty. My nephew was four. We couldn't leave 870 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.159 the house and wrestle Mania was free on the network, 871 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.199 so I sat my nephew down and watched it with him. 872 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:49.880 I tried to tell him how cool wrestling used to 873 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.320 be and how much I loved it. I thought it 874 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.519 could be our thing. Fast forward four years. I got 875 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.960 hooked again, and most kids today are more than happy 876 00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.239 to tell you they don't give a shit about fake fighting. Sure, 877 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.039 my girlfriend was relocated to Saint Louis for work. Finally 878 00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:04.920 feeling better, I went to see her. As fate would 879 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.599 have it, aw Dynasty was in town the next weekend, 880 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.079 a tremendous show Osprey Danielson Swerve Takes the Belt Off Joe. 881 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.360 I was elated. On the way home that night. She 882 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.159 told me she loved me, but she's never going to 883 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.960 that stupid shit again. Wow, you have since broken up 884 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.599 and I can't help but think the sport of King's 885 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.519 had a hand in it. Life got hard again after 886 00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:25.320 the break up. My dog of eighteen years died and 887 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.760 I was told I need another back surgery. Most of 888 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.440 my days spent in a chair, playing video games, rehaving 889 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.840 and listening to my favorite obsession, the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast. 890 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.280 The past few months, I've realized how deep I needed 891 00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.440 in my ass. I can no longer sit in the 892 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.039 sidelines and be a free loading bitch. Money is tight 893 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.039 since I can't work, but three sixteen for what you 894 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.320 both provide me is worth its weight in gold. I 895 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.119 can't thank you enough. Really, finding you guys really proved 896 00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.519 to me laughter as the best medicine. I've included two 897 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.639 photos of my King of the Ring experience, the only 898 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.480 remaining photos for my disposable camera that day, me and 899 00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.679 my wrestling buddy I'm in the angle shirt and a 900 00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.880 fresh faced Kurt walking to the ring before the industry 901 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.519 took him to the woodshed. Thank you both, God, bless you, 902 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.079 Praise be to the Warlord and the Lapsed Editor is 903 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.599 going to be the Cinderella story of the TLFX games. 904 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.239 Ah and didn't turn out to be well man, we're 905 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.320 sorry that you've been in such dire straits. We're glad 906 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:21.320 to provided LEAs some comfort. And please don't strain that wallet. 907 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:24.480 You know this is not We're not looking to to 908 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.320 nickel and dime people that need every penny. We're just 909 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.440 grateful for the support and others are doing their part, 910 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.800 and so keep that in mind. Best of luck to 911 00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:35.360 you and your recovery, and glad to have you as 912 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.280 a listeners. That's the first one I've heard that came 913 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.719 to us because of Ironclaw. 914 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.119 Yep, right, Well, it's about time you find a particular podcast. 915 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:50.880 Yeah, in a particular orifice. Scott Michael Ferry such a great, 916 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.039 such a great observer of wrestle Mamia on the moat 917 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.079 tier and he wrote this one that I had to 918 00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.920 save and read. This episode is twenty one minutes long, 919 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.079 but it probably took me thirty minutes to get through 920 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:04.400 it because I kept rewinding to hear how hard Jack 921 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:08.079 burst into laughter right after Mama Sorrow said that a 922 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:14.119 street signed to the temple could be death. Do you 923 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.719 remember that they're using a stop signed ECW? She goes, oh, 924 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:19.639 that could there is Let me. 925 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.599 Tell you my mom fears nothing more than getting hit 926 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:30.039 in the temple, hyper specific all right, like that, like 927 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.719 like that is a I remember the first time she 928 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:35.280 told me. And you know, I've never even looked this 929 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.320 up to see if this was true or not, but 930 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.760 like that, if you get hit in the temple, you 931 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.360 could die. Yeah, right, is that true? Yeah, if you 932 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.400 could hit anywhere in the head, you could die. But well, 933 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.519 all right, I mean yeah trying that's not like specifically 934 00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:49.039 the temple. 935 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.800 I think the temple can knock you out like a 936 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.360 little more easily. Yeah. 937 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.440 Well, she's like basically any blow to the head to 938 00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.159 the temple and you die, right, you know that's she's 939 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.800 been like fear of God about that. 940 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:03.880 I mean, you're going back and forth. 941 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:04.400 I was a kid. 942 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.920 I actually because Scott Michael pointed that out. I went 943 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.280 back and like listened to one hundred times Left Massa 944 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.199 because it's like if I remember, it's been a while now, 945 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.320 but if I remember, correct, You're going back and forth 946 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.039 with your mom about you know, the danger of hitting 947 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:18.559 some of the stop sign and it's hit him in 948 00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.719 the temple, and you go, that could be serious injury. 949 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.039 She goes, well, it could be death. She like she 950 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.440 corrects you almost, yeah, right, exactly. Now, Now I know 951 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.400 while you're going back and forth with her about the temple, 952 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.159 because you knew what we could light a fire over her. 953 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:38.320 Absolutely, I know, I know, I I yes, gotta gotta 954 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:39.800 kind of get her going on some of that show. 955 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.239 That's a pleasure. Brett recalls that this is the U 956 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.480 when you were doing Vince's voice on The Buried a 957 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:49.679 live episode and Jim Ross is in his full heel 958 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.679 mode and Vince is trying to you know, kind of 959 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.039 big legalm and pretend to be more refined than JR. Yes, 960 00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:01.039 And at one point, I don't remember this, Vince says, 961 00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:09.239 I probably don't. He is a barbecue fan. Where Brett 962 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.320 nails it when he says laps Vince will always be 963 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:14.280 the undisputed champion, and that turned out to be true 964 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.119 in the t lf X games Man, and that is 965 00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.360 very true. Jeff Wright's coming home from a Salesforce training 966 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.320 on customer Journeys to hear Vince called nineteen ninety six 967 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:29.559 WWE a customer Journey was a vibe. Hey, I want 968 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.960 to send a huge thank you to Robert Reynolds. This 969 00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:34.559 kind of fell through the cracks. Do you ever go 970 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.679 to Nordli's. Do they have any around you Nardelli's, I 971 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:40.920 mean nor Deli's. 972 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.400 Yeah go and yeah, absolutely the homie s Connecticut fucking 973 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.760 sent us a fifty dollars gift card to Nardelli's. 974 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.519 Oh so put that to use because there's none close 975 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:50.760 to me. 976 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.960 No, it's a Connecticut thing. Oh it is only Connecticut, 977 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:58.159 I think, or at least that they're at least that's 978 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.679 I've never seen them outside of Connecticut. Maybe like maybe 979 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:06.679 close to the border in New York, but not not 980 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.639 other than that, right man. 981 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.679 That's uh, that's awesome. We appreciate that. And I couldn't 982 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.960 do this, but I appreciated. Christopher Grieve, who's such a 983 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.239 wonderful guy, such a great Solar System member, so awesome 984 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.239 Mote Tier series as it gets there for you, sent 985 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.119 us some cheese on PayPal, and he wanted us to 986 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.880 do a live call of Hulk's RNC address. 987 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.679 Oh I can't go that. I can't. 988 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.760 Yeah, let us know, let us know if you want 989 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.000 to back man, because I I thought about it. It's like, 990 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.960 now as soon as we go there, it's over, you 991 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:47.119 know what I mean. Ethan Suppley, who's Ethan Suppley. 992 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:50.559 Oh he's an actor. 993 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.320 Okay, this is tim. I don't know if you guys 994 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.400 read episode comments and Patreon. But Jared Saines brought up 995 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.000 a point that I replied to regarding Ethan so plays 996 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.199 connection to wrestling. Figured I would tip you guys in 997 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.440 case you ignore comments like I usually do. Okay, Ethan 998 00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.719 slip papers and mal Rats and also played Vader's son 999 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:14.239 and Boy Meets World. Is that qualifying for mal Rats 1000 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:16.239 laying the son of Vader. 1001 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.679 No, because he needs to actually wrestle. It needs to 1002 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:26.000 be some kind of legit wrestling connection. But it's close. 1003 00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.119 It's a good effort. I will say that because mal 1004 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:33.440 Rats is. But there's actually I mean, look, mall Rats 1005 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.199 is actually easier really than we all think. 1006 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:38.519 Is it because of Burnley? 1007 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.800 No? No, actually not even well, I mean that that's possible, 1008 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:51.039 but actually, uh, Kevin Smith himself, because Kevin Smith went 1009 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:56.719 like a three episode story thing on AE. That counts. 1010 00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:01.519 That absolutely counts. I mean that opens up Kevin Smith. Well, 1011 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:03.280 I don't know if all of Kevin Smith. 1012 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.000 If that, if that counts wall Rats, then maybe we 1013 00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:07.880 don't need to read what I just sent you. I 1014 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.679 want to just put it in your back pocket. But 1015 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:14.440 the whole Brodie Lee character that that uh you know, 1016 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.840 the former debuties lu Carper played was inspired by the 1017 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.559 movie as well, and it was laid out very cleanly 1018 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:20.559 in the email I just sent you. 1019 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.880 Yeah, take it, take a read. People are interested. There 1020 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:25.719 you go on an email, the email. 1021 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.960 Everyone wants to wall rats to qualify so bad. 1022 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:40.360 Yeah, read the email. It Mike co co chairs and 1023 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.239 analyzers of anal assimilation for a long time. I'm a 1024 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.400 longtime listener who remains comfortable being a free loading bitch, 1025 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.400 mostly because I am a sole breadwinner of a family 1026 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:55.639 of three. You're philosophical, but uh no, no, I mean 1027 00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:02.960 there's society. Your philosophical banter about stage combat and simulated 1028 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:08.880 athletics keeps me entertained during mundane household chores like sweeping, vacuuming, mopping, 1029 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:13.119 and scooping catshit out of litter boxes. I don't have 1030 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.280 an elaborate stop sob story or embellished past to tug 1031 00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.760 on your heartstrings like other Carney inspired listeners. But I'm 1032 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.199 a lifelong wrestling fan from the Bronx who still wears 1033 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.519 wrestling shirts to the chagrin of my wife and my 1034 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:31.039 mother and who flashed a too sweet when my son 1035 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.960 was born while wearing a bray Wyat shirt, sparking a 1036 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.920 yearly tradition of wearing that shirt and flashing the two 1037 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.519 sweet on his birthday with him. And yes, the shirt 1038 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.599 still fits size large, which means I'm not a complete failure, 1039 00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:50.239 although I get goosebumps making late night grub Hub and 1040 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.679 door Dash orders instructing the delivery person to not ring 1041 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.440 the beetle or call me and to leave the food 1042 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.880 on the chair near my doors xactly delivery on the 1043 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.880 app and watch them through the door, ignoring their phone 1044 00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:08.079 calls because I clearly said not to in my instruction. 1045 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.639 I love that, and waiting for them to leave so 1046 00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.559 I can shuffle out of my socks and grab the 1047 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.320 food while looking left and right to see if anyone 1048 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:20.400 notices this shameful transaction. At one am, I enjoy the 1049 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.000 meal and destroy all traces and evidence of it before 1050 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.599 my wife wakes up to maximize the shame. I heard 1051 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.119 your desperate plea to the Solar System to see how 1052 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.480 mall rats could qualify for cinemat, and I hold this 1053 00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.360 bit of information. I hope I hold this bit of 1054 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:39.239 information will support the cause. From the Wikipedia page of 1055 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.320 Jonathan Hubert rests in peace aka Brody Lee. If Cape 1056 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.679 Fear can count because of Bray, Whatt and Whale and mercy, 1057 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.559 I feel this should qualify Malrats. Quote. He came up 1058 00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.960 with the name Brody Lee from the movie Mallrats absolutely 1059 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.360 by combining the names of actor Jason Lee and his 1060 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.280 character Brody Brooks, though his style and appearance have also 1061 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:03.599 brought them parents is to Bruiser Brody mistakenly thinking his 1062 00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:07.960 ring name was derived from Bruiser. All right, yeah, it 1063 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.719 totally qualifies it. Okay, if so, I may borrow some 1064 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.559 bucks from my some piggybank to hear the co chairs 1065 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.760 Deep Dive, one of my favorite movies from my. 1066 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:18.760 No one needs to be in the agenda for twenty 1067 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:19.679 twenty four boss. 1068 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.400 Yeah, yeah, I think that's uh. I think that's fair. 1069 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:27.719 I think that's fair. A mall rats. I love mal Right, man, 1070 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.840 I love all of you know the Kevin Smith movies. 1071 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.360 Oh yeah, yeah, he had such a he had such 1072 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.119 a hold on the culture for a while there. 1073 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.559 It's like, yeah, and I mean, you know, he's uh, 1074 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.320 it's such a if you watch I mean, I can 1075 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.400 watch his movies, and I do enjoy his movies, but man, 1076 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:57.840 they there are there are not many movies that reek 1077 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.760 so hard of the nine. Yeah, as his movie, that's 1078 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:04.159 so true. I mean. 1079 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.760 You mean time. It's not a negative thing. 1080 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.239 Not a negative thing, not a negative thing. It's just 1081 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.079 like you you you know, he he was, he was 1082 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.679 part of that that mid nineties independent film boom. 1083 00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:23.639 Yeah, absolutely, when you had so many, so many of 1084 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:28.639 these kind of like you know, student filmish like movies. 1085 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.800 Yep, My god, so many people coming in mall rats. 1086 00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:34.719 Now that I'm looking through this, Wow, they want it 1087 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.280 back right. It's it's there, It's there, It'll come good. 1088 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:39.719 It's good to know it's big. It's a big confirmation 1089 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.960 here on this episode. So a slew of thanks here. 1090 00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.119 We want to thank David Lee, Martin's, Joe Napoli, Double Bizz, 1091 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:52.559 Heather Barber, Huey Vambino, Chris turg Laferra, Matt White, Tim Lee, 1092 00:57:52.679 --> 00:58:00.119 Sean Van de Velde, Joe detallve Geno, Methodology change A, 1093 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:06.599 David Christian, Valentine, Brandon Kaiser, Matthew Hardaway, Brandon Collard, Stephen Tackett, 1094 00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:11.559 Daniel Jim Rocco, James Harvey, Garrick Taylor, Ben Buck Tavio, 1095 00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:16.880 Matthew Munns, Chuck Angeline, Heath, Horschman, Jesse Harrison, and Ali 1096 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.760 all for their recent pledges to the One and the 1097 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.079 Only true cast. This kind of supports what makes all 1098 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.719 the difference. Always need to remind folks that if Patreon 1099 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:28.800 isn't your thing, you can send us a one off 1100 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.239 digital tip by typing the lapsed fan at gmail dot 1101 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:33.840 com into your PayPal account send us funds that way, 1102 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.960 as many have done. Michael Hooper did that recently. Just 1103 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.440 simply wrote tip in honor of TLFX. Thanks for all 1104 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.599 the content that nice and we o nice little almost 1105 00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:47.440 like a fist bump. Blake writes, we discuss past family 1106 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:51.000 members who also watched wrestling as if they suffered afflictions, 1107 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.639 and we are sick with the same thing and our 1108 00:58:53.679 --> 00:59:00.400 parents are looking for genetic explanations. Mmm, it's true. George 1109 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.840 McAllister also hit us on PayPal. He writes, Dear Jack 1110 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:05.400 and JP, got a little bonus this month for all 1111 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.039 my hard work over the course of the year. Just 1112 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:08.800 wanted to share the love and give you another twenty 1113 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.199 pounds this month. Keep up the great work. Isn't that 1114 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:14.519 like just great citizenry at the end of the day, 1115 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:19.519 I agree, I agree Jesus Christ talk about straightforward good stuff. 1116 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:24.480 This one is newish to the solar system. It's from TC. 1117 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:27.320 Grew up a WB fan. Started my journey down memory 1118 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:29.400 lane with the Dark Side of the Ring wrestling documentaries. 1119 00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:32.079 I keep hearing about Lapsed Wrestling podcast being mentioned in 1120 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:34.119 the podcast of Dark Side of the Ring. There's another 1121 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:36.960 new one people can push that way, So I finally 1122 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.079 took a listen. Let me tell y'all, I'm now bent 1123 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.960 over with all my hands by my ankles, taking it 1124 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:43.639 all the way up. You get the point. Saying it 1125 00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.079 as well as hearing it always makes me cringe. Everything 1126 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.159 you both do is gold. I'm broke at the moment, 1127 00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:49.599 but the day I get all my funds in order 1128 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.519 that that HOPPERA is open, I will bless and curse 1129 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.559 you all with a shit show to cover, because I 1130 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.719 personally believe y'all best work is when you both hate 1131 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:57.920 the show and mostly everyone in it. I was high 1132 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.880 as fuck one night THHC not to tea but not painkillers, 1133 01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:03.800 and I was listening to the EPs to episode three 1134 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.360 twenty four Bash at the Beach nineteen ninety five while driving, 1135 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.840 Thank god it was late, because my god lapsed. Vader 1136 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.599 had me in tears and cramping. I could barely drive. 1137 01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.639 I went back to listen to it sober as we 1138 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.519 speak while I'm working, and I had to pause it 1139 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.679 because I start dying from imagining some huge, bald guy 1140 01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:22.280 ripping through a parking lot of people just indeat. 1141 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:23.719 Yes. 1142 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:24.199 What was. 1143 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:31.239 What was key about that to my memory is that, 1144 01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:34.280 first of all, it's like the sound of the little 1145 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.639 rocks on the parking lot crunching under his boots. 1146 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:38.119 Yes. 1147 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:42.000 And it's that he's not he's not like blasting through 1148 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.119 people to get to the food. The food's inside. There 1149 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:48.239 are people outside. He's not just hitting them. He's like 1150 01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:52.440 pursuing them, even after he's knocked them over. Like he's 1151 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.599 not pushing them out of the way. He's trying to 1152 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.280 fright them and defeat them and then go get the 1153 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:03.599 food a fox him up basically. 1154 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:08.039 Well, And I remember the thing that I loved the 1155 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:11.199 most too, was that there was there was like an 1156 01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.960 idea of a guy who like didn't know, you know, 1157 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.760 he's trying to get out of the way but he 1158 01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:21.039 keeps going the same way as Vader. He can't get it. 1159 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:22.039 He can't get it right. 1160 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:23.599 That's odd. 1161 01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:28.480 He fucking gets killed. 1162 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:31.760 Last, but not least, there's the listen of my favorite 1163 01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:34.920 LAPS characters below. Thanks so much for everything, keep taking 1164 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.480 us on rich historical trips have failed, but once great promotions, 1165 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.760 and continuing to remind us that wrestling is a carnival 1166 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.960 full of crazy carnies that live in their own world 1167 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.000 and worry about nothing but themselves. First ps adding driving 1168 01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.320 high as fuck while listening to that fucking cast as 1169 01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.199 one of those do at your own risk things. Number 1170 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.559 one is Kevin Nash, Number two is Vince McMahon, Number 1171 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:56.519 three is hul Cogan, Number four is said and that's 1172 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.440 before the tribute, and number five is Macho Man. Honorable 1173 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.239 mention Vader. Well, we're glad to have he as a listener. Pal, 1174 01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:06.960 good stuff. Yeah, hilarious. Email Jennifer, who's been lapsed since 1175 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:11.039 twenty fourteen the wrestles owne Days Wow, writes this, Dear 1176 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.719 coach Chairman, I'm sending you this email upon one revelation, 1177 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.920 even though I did not start watching wrestling until twenty 1178 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:18.639 three oh four. Who was the man who was my hero, 1179 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.280 who was the wrestling god? Who do you think it was? Boss? 1180 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:22.679 She's from two thousand and three? Four? 1181 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.239 Oh I gibble jibbling bits. 1182 01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:29.920 Yes, even in twenty oh four. The first iconic hero 1183 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:35.119 of wrestling for me was Hulk fucking Hogan. To think 1184 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.119 about that, Think about people who discovered Hulk Hogan during 1185 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.239 the two thousand and three run That's Insane. Let me explain. 1186 01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:43.960 I was first introduced to the sport of kings to 1187 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.000 the second PS two WW SmackDown game, Shut your mouth. 1188 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:48.960 After that I took some interest in the product, though 1189 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:50.920 wouldn't say I really became a hardcore fan until couple 1190 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:52.880 of years later. However, in two thousand and three, I 1191 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.480 was introduced to a very special VHS tape. My dad's 1192 01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.719 roommate Mick, a longtime friend in Rocker type, made a 1193 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.639 mixtape of most of Hogan's exploits of three After No 1194 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.920 Way Out two thousand and three, including his entire run 1195 01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.400 as Mister America. What's Better. Mick filled the tape with 1196 01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.199 divas segment. So Don Marie was flashing her naked tits naked? 1197 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.039 I don't think so? Not her? Did she did? 1198 01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:12.519 She show it. 1199 01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:14.199 I know she made I. 1200 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:15.519 Don't have to show them. I mean she might have, 1201 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:20.440 like you know then you know, quote unquote, you know nude. 1202 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:25.760 Maybe she did. Actually, I know she made out with 1203 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:30.079 Torri on that pay per view. I watched that more 1204 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:33.920 than once, but I don't know if she ever should 1205 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.480 because now I'm actually wondering if she did. I know, 1206 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.159 of course the cat did. That was the only time 1207 01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:40.119 I thought they ever went ahead and did it on Yeah. 1208 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.880 Well, and then you had uh Jacqueline always fucking right, 1209 01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:47.280 losing it all the time. 1210 01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.440 And said was doing a sable rather Sable was doing 1211 01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:53.480 a strip tease in between segments with Hogan beating on 1212 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:55.480 Piper and fucking two thousand and three, Yeah, I remember that. 1213 01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:57.159 That was That was when Vince was after her and 1214 01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.840 she ended up going with Brock. And it's probably closed 1215 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.400 a couple times on that fucking. 1216 01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:03.679 Deal, I imagine. 1217 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:05.559 Honestly, I wasn't watching week to week. I couldn't even 1218 01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:07.800 watch SmackDown for years. But outside of the occasional raw, 1219 01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:09.679 I could peer my eye into the world of wrestling 1220 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.280 through this five and a half hour mixtape. Except I 1221 01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.559 could watch this whenever I wanted, not only on Monday nights. 1222 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.000 I have to say, as a nine year old kid, 1223 01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.280 I completely bought into this Hulk Hogan. For one thing, 1224 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.440 I was constantly being told both by my dad and 1225 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.599 the storylines that Hulk Hogan is some kind of legend 1226 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.000 who must be respected as the greatest sports entertainer of 1227 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.199 all time. I completely bought into the feud with him 1228 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.239 and Vince. I was interested to see him beat on 1229 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.760 Shaan O'Hair, and I found the Mister America gimmick really funny. Really, 1230 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:34.960 the week to week goof of fence Piper attempting to 1231 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.960 expose mister America's Hogan was perfectly tuned for a nine 1232 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:39.840 year old barely in a wrestling I had never been 1233 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.559 thought about that. The kids watching that just thought it 1234 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.079 was the greatest thing. Yeah, I'm quote, that's that's wild. 1235 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.960 I am not Hulk Hogan brother, because I knew nothing 1236 01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.000 any way. I was just able to accept old man 1237 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.159 Hogan as a hero one could get behind, a badass 1238 01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.239 fighting against the system who just wanted to get a 1239 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.000 big pop from the fans. Basically, he was my stone Cold. 1240 01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.880 How weird is that Bizarres the real stone Cold? To me? 1241 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.400 Some jackass on an ATV who drinks beer and pranks 1242 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.159 Eric Bischoff, who is and has only ever been raw GM. 1243 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.000 Why does it say sob on his vest? My dad 1244 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.480 would say, to fuck with us. By the time I 1245 01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:15.199 properly got into wrestling, my hero is definitely John Cena, 1246 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.320 at least in those preteen days before I would be 1247 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.039 too cool and jaded for him. But in my first introductions, 1248 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:22.159 the big guy, the star of the show, the going 1249 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:26.079 concern it was still Hulk Hogan. Even after WCW folded, 1250 01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:28.400 the WW was successfully getting at least one kid in 1251 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:32.480 America to still believe in hulk Amania. Whether or not 1252 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:34.719 this email has ever seen, cheers or cheers to you 1253 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:37.599 and ps, I can totally send a link to digitized 1254 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:39.920 version of the tape. I ripped it years ago. Get 1255 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:41.800 I get the gist. I get the gist because I 1256 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.760 made those two. That's good. That is just a whole 1257 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.639 wild relevatory to me. To think that there are people 1258 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.320 out there that like looked around, took the stock of 1259 01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:52.960 WW in two thousand and three and said, yeah, this 1260 01:05:52.960 --> 01:06:00.000 guy's the coolest guy. That's just that's insane. I totally agree, Steve. 1261 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:01.599 He's had a great point he says, I'm sitting here 1262 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:03.880 listening to the live call and thinking, Wow, the guys 1263 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:05.920 are being a little hard on Solo so CoA. Then 1264 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.960 you say he looks like a falafel, and now I 1265 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:10.800 can never see that and I will never take him 1266 01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:12.639 seriously for the rest of his life. 1267 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.440 That's right, nor should you. He's in his face right now, 1268 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:22.400 Oh on a stupid baby face, fat face. 1269 01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:25.559 Why poor guy's sending me control that he's a bad ass. 1270 01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:26.719 Can't stand him. 1271 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:28.559 He's not a bad look at his face. 1272 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:37.159 He's a bitch. He's an idiot. Oh shit, Solo so CoA. 1273 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:41.639 If he's Solo suck you say anyone's name like that, 1274 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:47.920 He's only idiots souls and look at he's just a dufus, 1275 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.639 just a complete dufis. 1276 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.400 Chocolate equals Detriment pointed this out from the lapsed funk. 1277 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.599 I bet you don't remember saying this laps fucking four 1278 01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:02.199 hours and thirty three seconds quote. I'm gonna touch you 1279 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:05.519 where you stink, and I want you to accept it, 1280 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:13.480 understand it, and celebrate it. There's something gems in there, man, 1281 01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:15.920 that it's gonna take a long time to resurface. But 1282 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.760 the hours and hours. We were in a trance, a 1283 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.239 Terry funk trance. I really was so true and I 1284 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.800 still remember I still remember the smell of opening the 1285 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:26.559 box I got from his estate sale. 1286 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:27.840 Oh yeah, just. 1287 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.880 That smell of like someone else's stuff, do you know 1288 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.119 what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it hadn't been touched in 1289 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:33.400 twenty five years. 1290 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.039 Because there's a hint of that mustiness to it. 1291 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:37.840 Yeah, like you know, you get an idea of what 1292 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:42.800 his living room smelled like. You know, yep, yep, My god, 1293 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.039 Kevin McClory. You think our homie Steve in Ireland doesn't 1294 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.320 have thoughts on this guy ooh from the Bond film. 1295 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.599 It's amazing to me that McClory tried to make himself 1296 01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:55.679 out of his rags to riches story. He was born 1297 01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.960 and lived in doing log Hair, a very wealthy part 1298 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:00.760 of the city that had a lot of British presence 1299 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.119 even after independence was passed. He probably went to one 1300 01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:04.880 of many private schools in that part of the city. 1301 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.239 One of Ireland's most famous ones is ten minutes up 1302 01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.039 the road. He was a posh kid. 1303 01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:10.960 I love this. 1304 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:12.719 Why do you love it? Tell people who don't know 1305 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:13.360 I love. 1306 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.680 This because again, he comes, he comes across, he talks 1307 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:21.119 about himself like he's this, like he's this underdog, but 1308 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:22.600 he's really just a fucking failure. 1309 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.079 Well, he's a fraud as far as an underdog, that's 1310 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.119 absolutely a failure. He succeeded, I would say. 1311 01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.880 No, not at all. He had no money when he died. Well, yeah, 1312 01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:36.079 but he had nothing. Got what he wanted though, No, no, 1313 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:43.640 no he did not, especially especially since his estate gave 1314 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:44.239 it all away. 1315 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.279 Yeah. No, he'd be horrified to know what happened after 1316 01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:52.239 he passed. Kevin McClory just quickly. This is a guy 1317 01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.199 who claimed co authorship rights to a lot of the Bond. 1318 01:08:54.960 --> 01:09:00.479 Ip Yes, yeah, he well he yeah he. He actually 1319 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:06.920 wrote the first ever Bond script prior to Kubby Brockley 1320 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.199 coming on board with Ian Fleming. And Ian Fleming then 1321 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:16.720 they they end up separating on a very sour note, 1322 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:22.000 and Fleming took what they'd written and made Thunderball, made 1323 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:25.600 the book Thunderball, and thus started and didn't give credit 1324 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:28.920 or didn't give a paycheck or anything, and thus started 1325 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:34.239 an incredible a fifty year battle, a fifty year battle. 1326 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:39.000 Obsessed with winning this fight, obsessed with basically being owed 1327 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:41.359 every red scent that the Bond franchise ever made. 1328 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:46.039 Yeah, he was really insisting owned. He created Bond and 1329 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:50.199 deserved to own Bond. And he just spent his entire 1330 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:55.479 life with this vendetta with only one victory, not two victories. 1331 01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:59.159 I guess where he got to produce the Thunderball film 1332 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:04.560 on alongside Kubby Brockley and Harry Saltzman, but then also 1333 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.439 make his Thunderball remake with Sean Connery. But besides that, 1334 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:12.920 I mean, he just failure. It's a complete shit show. Yeah, total. 1335 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:15.720 Matthew writes. I don't know why Jesse the Body Ventura 1336 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:19.079 claiming asylum in Budapest made me laugh out loud, but 1337 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:19.520 it did. 1338 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.640 I don't know why they laugh either. It's fucking funny. 1339 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.640 It is funny. Jesse Ventor is saying Budapest like it's 1340 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.600 a city everybody knows which it is. 1341 01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.720 But you know why, I've been to Budapest, you know, 1342 01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.880 and I've been there and I claim asylum. 1343 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.800 He's saying Budapest because he thinks you're going to be 1344 01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:44.279 impressed that he knows what Budapest is. 1345 01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.800 It's exactly what it is. I mean, you know, I've 1346 01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.720 been all over the traveled the world. I'm a globe trotter, 1347 01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:56.640 not ashamed to admit it. And you know, sometimes when 1348 01:10:56.680 --> 01:10:58.800 we're out there doing these things, and you know, I say, 1349 01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.439 you know what, I think it's about time I claim, 1350 01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:04.039 as Shylom in Budapesh. 1351 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:21.399 It's the laps Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 1352 01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:25.000 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 1353 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.199 Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed 1354 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.279 Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to 1355 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:32.119 take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote 1356 01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.439 for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling 1357 01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:37.319 Podcast of the Year, click on the show's notes, follow 1358 01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:38.760 the link and do the right thing. 1359 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:57.119 He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco 1360 01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:58.520 and JP Soorro. 1361 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.079 He writes, Ricky Steamboat and joined Coffee is something I 1362 01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:09.039 never thought I would laugh at. That is what we're 1363 01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:14.439 here for. Hard to step out, Yes, Yes, oh my god, 1364 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:18.439 it's so good. Another PayPal hit from the Hodie Alexander, 1365 01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:22.239 who writes at jukebox request good boss, oh man, please 1366 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:25.479 sing missawis theme to the vocals of Lex Luger selling noise. 1367 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.600 I don't think this will disappoint however it comes out. 1368 01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:31.880 I will do it at some point. I can't do 1369 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:33.439 that tonight. I will do that at some point. 1370 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.439 But that don't don't let us forget remind us. Yeah, 1371 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:39.760 you're you're just the victim of where you fell on 1372 01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:45.399 the l box order there, so don't uh, don't fret, 1373 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:51.079 don't don't lose faith. Fred Denstrow, Ronnie Rudy Casserras, longtime support. 1374 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.079 Always great to see him in the soup. Thanks for 1375 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.000 the support, man, John Calla Hill, Thank you very much. 1376 01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:01.079 Mason Thompson, we appreciate it so very much. Kifa Jay 1377 01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.720 Perhaps I want to thank you for the support. Mike Poohland, 1378 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:09.199 Chris Mann, Gindi Draws, thank you very much for the support. 1379 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:13.239 Very tall man, very strong pledge. I want to thank you. 1380 01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.920 Leo B. Forsyth, Jerome Cussin Maya good longtime supporter. Always 1381 01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:21.399 good to hear from Maya Austin Tyson. Doesn't get much 1382 01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:24.880 better than that. Ross Muller and Brandon Kaiser, the homie, 1383 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:29.680 Ricardo Barland, thank you very much for your pledge. Shells 1384 01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:36.119 KF and Brad Murphy, Liam McGrath, Tim z Elendbach ossified Caddie, 1385 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:39.640 we'll take it. Brune, thank you very much for your pledge. 1386 01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:42.359 Johnny Fees, thanks for bumping up what comes our way. 1387 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.479 Same to you, Jason Panditex's thanks so much for the support. 1388 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:49.800 Sammy Conduit. We want to thank you for really boosting 1389 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.720 your support to a level that indicates a high level 1390 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:59.000 of seriousness and a high appreciation. H I appreciation for 1391 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:02.479 the CoA chairman interrupt you, Sami writes, I'm back. I sorry, 1392 01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:06.479 I sinned. That's all right, it happens. We'll come in, 1393 01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:08.760 they come out, they cycle in, they cycle out. It's 1394 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.319 the nature of life. But we're like you said earlier, 1395 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:14.600 we're always here with a with the seat at the 1396 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.880 table for you. We have a place setting just for 1397 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.840 you when if you decide to show up. Huey Bambino 1398 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:26.880 as well, and Jason Panitec's thanks very much for all 1399 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:32.279 the support. Let's see who's next as we round third 1400 01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:37.000 here on this feedback marathon. Chris l thank you so 1401 01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:41.800 much for the cake, Andy Yellinick, Steve King, Kevin Jolly 1402 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.800 badly drawn Bob. We'll take it. William Murphy and Mark 1403 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:48.720 Henry Jay whoever you are. Jay, thank you very much 1404 01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:53.119 for the pledge. Connor Stewart and Justin John Harris Stevenson, 1405 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.760 thank you very much. Great to make John Harris Stevenson's 1406 01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.720 acquaintance lately sounds like a true blue member of the 1407 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:05.079 Solar system, willing to do what it takes to offer support. 1408 01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:09.640 Ray Sanson, Thank you. Mike Berres Berese, Thank you very much. 1409 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.479 Ben Oudsley. We appreciate the support. James Wilson and the 1410 01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:19.960 aforementioned Scott our Young Jake. We appreciate the cake basically, 1411 01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:25.359 and this one is one that I knew we'd get 1412 01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:29.039 to eventually. Do you know the hawk to a girl? 1413 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.800 Do you know what that is? 1414 01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:33.039 I've heard of it. I don't really know. 1415 01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:38.079 All right. Joe Boys Joe from Denton, the county seat 1416 01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:41.239 of Denton County, forty miles north of Don Hondolas. I 1417 01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:44.039 think Texans emphasized our geography, he writes, because it is 1418 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:46.760 so plainly unremarkable. Anyway, I sent you a tongue in 1419 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:48.920 cheek tweet inquiring about your thoughts on HUK to his 1420 01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.159 future endeavors, and you asked me to post the question 1421 01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:53.560 an email, so for posterity stake, I'm going to post 1422 01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:55.520 the tweet verbatim, and then I'll provide some context as 1423 01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.000 to why and what the hell the tweet was a 1424 01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.600 big draft of the cast. For me, is the commentary 1425 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.479 on modern consumerism and the context of extreme onlinism and 1426 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.359 social media. Jack's rants and this arena received hearty amens 1427 01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:08.239 in my household. All this to ask Jack, what does 1428 01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:10.920 the future hold for hawktua? Okay, the other day I 1429 01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:12.960 was sitting around and became angry that I knew who 1430 01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.800 Hawktoua was. I'm forty four, and other than tweeting at 1431 01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.399 you occasionally and leaving Patreon comments, I have minimal social 1432 01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:19.920 media presence, and I would like to think I have 1433 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.399 pretty good social media restraint. So why in God's name 1434 01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.000 do I know who this knitwit is? I kept thinking 1435 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.520 back to one of Jack's many rants on digital media consumption, 1436 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.800 and although I'm going to butcher this statement, it went 1437 01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.039 something to the two. Now, if the idea of fifteen 1438 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.439 minutes of fame existed before social media, I shuddered to 1439 01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:37.119 think what will become of influencers who get fifteen seconds 1440 01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.159 of fame only to spend the rest of their waking 1441 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:41.279 lives trying to make people give a shit about them again. 1442 01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:43.399 And as I thought of this rant, I smiled and 1443 01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:46.479 nodded slowly. I wish no ill will towards Huktua. I'm 1444 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:48.359 just saddened that I'm going to have to join a 1445 01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:51.159 monastery to dodge howktua two point zero, and I'm not 1446 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:53.279 even sure if that will do the trick. I would 1447 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.159 love to hear your thoughts on how social media has 1448 01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:58.079 spawned an infinite number of self help hucksters, whether it 1449 01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:02.359 be financial, diet, pet, relationship advice, or whatever fuck else. 1450 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:04.520 All of a sudden, so many people have life figured 1451 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.760 out and they're dying to share their secrets with you, 1452 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:11.359 like subscribe and comment. I'm a Cardlin super Mark, So 1453 01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:13.800 I think back to two of my favorites. One thing 1454 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.840 he said is life is not that complicated. You get up, 1455 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:17.560 you go to work, you eat three meals, you take 1456 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.039 one good shit, and you go to bed. Another thing 1457 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:21.720 he said is if you're looking for self help, why 1458 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:23.359 would you need to read a book by somebody else. 1459 01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.159 That's not self help. That's help, that's help. There's no 1460 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.159 such thing as self help. If you did it yourself, 1461 01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:33.560 you didn't need help. George was so inspirational, concludes because 1462 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:35.680 he became funnier and sharper with age. God, I missed 1463 01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:38.439 that guy. Yeah, if he was around, man, we would 1464 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:40.720 have the vocabulary to talk about a lot of the 1465 01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.800 absurdity we observe on a daily basis. Since it's passing. Okay, fellows, 1466 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:48.840 you're the best. Take care. So Hawktua. This is a 1467 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:51.520 girl from Nashville who was interviewed by one of these 1468 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.720 like content people who hang around like bars and nightclubs 1469 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:57.439 and try to get girls to say things on camera 1470 01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:02.600 like do you give a head or yes one thousand percent? 1471 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.159 And like now you know, it's a way for these 1472 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:10.159 guys to get fucking polished off, you know, because oh 1473 01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:12.640 my god, you have followers. Oh my god, you have content. 1474 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.680 Oh my god, you talk. Oh my god, I saw 1475 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:19.760 your videos. And so she's one of them walking around 1476 01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.600 and uh with her friend, and this content creator asks her, 1477 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:26.359 what does you have to do keep a man satisfied 1478 01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:27.600 or something, and she goes, you got to give him 1479 01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:29.439 that hawk tua, meaning you spit in his dick. And 1480 01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:32.239 that's like, you know, like how iron She just do 1481 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:33.880 the hawk to a lot of people joked about that 1482 01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:37.319 Originally she said a lot of pizazz and a lot 1483 01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:39.199 of personality and a lot of spark, and she had 1484 01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.560 a Southern charm and blah blah blah, and she was 1485 01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:47.119 blonde and tan and brother, yeah, I didn't mean to 1486 01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:52.199 alarm you. And so Hawktua became like a shorthand thing, 1487 01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:54.920 and you know, everyone was talking about it. They named 1488 01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:57.199 her hawk Tua, and then she got a podcast called 1489 01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:02.640 Talk Tua and she's famous because she made a joke about, 1490 01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.079 you know, a good hearted joke and with this big 1491 01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:08.079 smile on her face, laughing like one of the guys 1492 01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:09.880 about spitting on a dick, how you gotta do that? 1493 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:13.840 And so she got like a thing where it's like, 1494 01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:15.880 oh my god, she's everyone's after her. Who is she? 1495 01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:17.880 What's her story? You know how this hall goes like 1496 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.319 who's the hawktail girl? Yeah, you understand, she's here all 1497 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.640 of a sudden, like she gets offered two thousand dollars 1498 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.159 to do something in its news, and she starts making 1499 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:28.800 a nightclub appearances, whether the fuck she did concerts, She 1500 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:33.000 shows up at things like that. And I'm glad I 1501 01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:35.479 waited on this because it's a respond to this one, 1502 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:40.640 because now she's in the middle of a crypto controversy. 1503 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.920 Some may call it a really scam yeah, rug pull 1504 01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.840 as it's as it's said in that world where you know, 1505 01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:50.399 a celebrity backs a certain coin and then the value 1506 01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:53.960 of everyone buys in and then the value crashes overnight, 1507 01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:56.880 but the people who started the thing make off to 1508 01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.720 the bank with kind of like preferred shares. It's a 1509 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.000 big the thing, and if I miscast it, it's because 1510 01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:06.279 I don't care enough to understand the details. So and 1511 01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.560 now it's like she's just another fucking creepo, like, you know, 1512 01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:15.640 scam adjacent influencer type. And that's what Joe's getting at. 1513 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:19.720 So I guess the idea is like, why, you know, 1514 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.520 why do people like this become famous? What does this 1515 01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.119 say about where we're at? It goes back to Paris 1516 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:27.119 Hilton in a lot of ways. Pam Holderson, I mean, 1517 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.359 it's all it's all the same shit. I mean, you 1518 01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:32.359 make you just become known because you have a sex 1519 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:35.840 tape or because you're making sexually explicit gestures and references 1520 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:39.079 or indicating your openness to such. But what I noticed 1521 01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:41.079 about her is we're in an era and now where 1522 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:46.720 everyone is just waiting for the only fans, so anyone 1523 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:49.720 cares about if you're hot online all anyone cares. 1524 01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:55.640 It's actually it's actually, you know, it's I I there 1525 01:20:55.640 --> 01:21:00.279 are some people that I know and and I see 1526 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:05.159 on their social media, and it's actually disturbing how many 1527 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:11.840 how people have the the I mean, it's it's the 1528 01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:16.439 social media internet protection, you know, that weird thing of 1529 01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:20.319 asking these women when are you gonna start an only fan? 1530 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:22.800 It's like the only thing people care about. 1531 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:27.119 Now, right, people like just and it's like, I mean 1532 01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:29.760 it's because I ask you this. I mean, this is 1533 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:31.680 what when it comes down to it. And that's actually 1534 01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:33.960 what I tell my kid all the time. When when 1535 01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:38.239 you know, when she you know, is texting some some 1536 01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:42.760 you know kind of like any kind of bully shit 1537 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.479 or or some stuff, she's doing it necessarily on purpose. 1538 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:46.880 I mean, she's getting it from all these things. And 1539 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:51.239 I say, would you say that to their face? If 1540 01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:52.760 you would say that to their face, then say it 1541 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.520 to whoever you want. But if you couldn't go up 1542 01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.319 to this person and look them in the eye and 1543 01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:06.119 say this ship, then don't say it. I mean, it's 1544 01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:13.800 just vile. It's viral, you know, yep, and not just 1545 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:17.279 say it behind the fucking typing. You know, that's this 1546 01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:19.560 is the This is this weird little cage that people 1547 01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:25.159 have where they're typing. You know, I mean say ship, 1548 01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:27.520 you know, use your real voice if you're going to 1549 01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:31.199 do it, let people hear you say it. Don't just 1550 01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:34.680 sit around there and and and fucking and type it 1551 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:38.520 and and you know, hide behind your computer or your 1552 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:42.640 phone or whatever. I've listened. I've said ship on this show. 1553 01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:49.079 I've said ship over the ears, and you know, I uh, 1554 01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:50.920 you know, I don't know if I'd say everything that 1555 01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:52.439 I said to their face. And this is me. I'm 1556 01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.359 total hypocrite. Don't get me wrong. I can you can 1557 01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:59.960 call me out on all that ship. But you know 1558 01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:03.000 I'll say this. I'm saying it here, I'm saying in 1559 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:04.600 front of a bunch of people, and I'm not hiding 1560 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.399 behind it. It's just it's me saying the ship. I'd 1561 01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:08.520 say that. I'll say that much. 1562 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.880 Yeah, you know, yeah, it's not a pseudonym. 1563 01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:15.479 I'm not. I'm I going underneath a you know type 1564 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:17.840 and stuff and like running away basically, you know, like 1565 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:22.640 being a little fucking chip like I mean, yeah, you know, 1566 01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:30.439 it's just it's yeah, I I I can't, I really 1567 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:31.199 can't stand it. 1568 01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:36.920 Like, let's just fucking stop it. It's all because phones 1569 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:46.560 made everything better, right and uh you know it's all 1570 01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:50.279 get rich quick. That's always that. That's our fatal that's 1571 01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:55.039 our that's our our achilles heel in this country and 1572 01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:55.880 it always will be. 1573 01:23:56.399 --> 01:24:00.399 And and listen, I'm not there's no I actually have 1574 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:04.000 no issue with you know if you with people doing OnlyFans. 1575 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.079 I mean I've I've heard some incredible success stories of 1576 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:09.439 people who are just making a ton of money and 1577 01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:11.840 they're able to kind of keep their own integrity. And 1578 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.800 it's not like you know, but it's just this idea 1579 01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:20.680 that anybody has, the like where do you get the 1580 01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:26.399 entitlement to fucking tell somebody you should you should go 1581 01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.199 on this website so that I can pay to see 1582 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:29.760 you nude. 1583 01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:35.319 It's and it's just like it's not like it'sn't telling 1584 01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:37.720 the person, it's just like asking is there one this 1585 01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:39.079 this supposition. 1586 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:40.760 Or are you going to do it? But I mean 1587 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.319 it's the should, it's the you should do this, you 1588 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:43.960 should do this. 1589 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:47.800 If a girl is a certain age, like the internet 1590 01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:49.840 convinces itself that they could coax them to do it, 1591 01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:53.359 and you know what, they probably can. Like I was 1592 01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:56.479 thinking the other day, like, you know, we didn't have sexting, 1593 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:01.520 like only fans, Like I mean, god, Uber turned everyone 1594 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:03.680 in a cab driver, and this is gonna turn everyone 1595 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:07.680 in a porn star. Yeah right, Because it seems you 1596 01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:10.840 deal drugs in the hood. It's like you go to 1597 01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:16.000 McDonald's and make you know, minimum wage, which is higher 1598 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:17.760 than has ever been. I get it. Blah blah blah, inflation, 1599 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.439 make all your jokes shut the fuck up. But I 1600 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.159 don't do you know how much fucking money I can 1601 01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:25.960 make work in these corners? Do you have any idea 1602 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.600 how much money m M for someone who knows that 1603 01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:34.800 it's in the odds are infinitesically small that I'm gonna 1604 01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.479 be able to break out into into a high earning 1605 01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:42.000 positions in white collar America like who's shipping? Who here? 1606 01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:43.880 You don't want to hire me, I don't want to 1607 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:46.399 work for you, and you can pretend you want to 1608 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:49.279 hire me, but when push comes to shove, you're not 1609 01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:54.439 gonna pay me the fucking money. I can make movie packs, okay, 1610 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:59.119 And that's exactly what's happening only fans side. I'm like, God, 1611 01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:01.840 look at my account. Oh my god, six hundred thousand 1612 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:05.399 dollars on a podcast that doesn't exist for the purpose 1613 01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:07.960 of a real showing someone on your phone with the dollar. 1614 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.680 That's it. It was just just cares about fucking direct 1615 01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:20.359 deposits and receipts and and it's it's so weird because 1616 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.640 I feel like she became famous because people were like, 1617 01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.359 is she gonna get naked? And she doesn't, and she didn't, 1618 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.399 And she actually has a pretty cool personality. I've seen 1619 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:30.720 her kind of carry on and interview formats and stuff. 1620 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:32.960 But you know, whatever, you're gonna fall into that, or 1621 01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:34.720 you're gonna be like that girl in the UK who 1622 01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:38.520 who went viral for lining up a fucking one hundred 1623 01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:40.840 guys showing up at a condo somewhere in England and 1624 01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:44.640 just airing her out. And then everyone's like, oh me, 1625 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.520 good documentary about her anguish, when really that's just somebody 1626 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:52.279 else attaching themselves to the the pure and interest of 1627 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.640 this girl taking that many dicks. It was kind of like, 1628 01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:59.560 you know, it's like whenever whenever, like a journalist or 1629 01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:03.039 a documentary and does something about porn. I'm always very suspicious, 1630 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.199 you know, even if they take the subject hyper seriously 1631 01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:09.239 and they and their work is relevatory, they just want 1632 01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.920 to be around porn, you know. They went like a 1633 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:17.920 pretext to watch these people get absolutely waylaid, of course, 1634 01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:21.680 and I just I just think it's kind of a 1635 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:28.520 it's kind of a strange and unfortunate thing where we've 1636 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.960 now like seem to have reached a point in terms 1637 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:37.000 of online discourse where everyone's posting these these pictures of 1638 01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:39.560 themselves and instead of it being vanity like it used 1639 01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.760 to be, instead of it being you know, something designed 1640 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.520 to kill and crush your enemies with jealousy, it's now 1641 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:51.279 actually a bit of commerce. It's actually trying to set 1642 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:53.239 the hook. So you go down this rabbit hole of 1643 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:57.119 links where you end up being asked to pay for 1644 01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:00.640 the only fans, and it's all over the place. It's 1645 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:03.159 you know, and it's more explicit on some platforms than others, 1646 01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:05.920 and it's crypto adjacent. So a lot of it like 1647 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:08.960 ends up being like you build up a following by 1648 01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:12.399 teasing showing nudity, and then that following is then leveraged 1649 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.399 to try to get people into a into a new 1650 01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:18.359 crypto coin and build that up. And it's all built 1651 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:21.600 on this idea. It's the it's the oldest salesmanship in 1652 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:26.399 the book, that like you're smarter than everybody else, you 1653 01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:29.239 know how to make money quicker than everybody else. Here's 1654 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:33.520 a guy with an open collar who is like young 1655 01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.000 and tan, and he's had spiked hair, and he says 1656 01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:40.800 he's got one hundred million dollars and he he's he 1657 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:45.319 flips property like it's like the set. You know, I 1658 01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.880 always picture like these run down neighborhoods and like there's 1659 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:51.680 this like this this renovation going on for no reason, 1660 01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:54.920 and this jackass shows up in like Gucci shoes walking 1661 01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.359 around the construction site. You know, I don't care how 1662 01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.359 much money he's making. You couldn't fucking pay me enough 1663 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:04.079 to carry on like that douchebag. And the way he's 1664 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.800 got to think and look and act and consider, and 1665 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:11.039 the disdain he has to have for people, and the 1666 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:17.600 rent seeking fucking you know, heard of everything he does. 1667 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:23.439 So I don't know, I'm I'm very uh. I don't 1668 01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:25.159 want to go in on her. I don't think she's 1669 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.199 like some kind of disaster because she's had a chance 1670 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:31.720 to show that she actually is a pretty interesting, like 1671 01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:35.720 kind of personality, interesting in that she's not somebody that 1672 01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:37.720 you like Paris Hilton, you look at like she doesn't 1673 01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:41.399 even talk, she can't talk, like she can't say anything, 1674 01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:44.840 Like she just can stand there. But that doesn't mean 1675 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:49.359 she It doesn't mean she can't easily be convinced that 1676 01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:53.159 everybody but her is a sucker and end up scamming 1677 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.000 fuckers and end up in the company of people who 1678 01:29:56.119 --> 01:30:02.640 use her following for nothing but ill gotten gains. So 1679 01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:05.079 it's become a much more complicated story this talk to 1680 01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.319 of things since the serial was sent and we went 1681 01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:08.840 in a lot of different directions there. But I hope 1682 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:13.800 that satisfies what you were looking for, Joe. 1683 01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:14.680 And I just don't know shit about it. 1684 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:18.800 If you know, if you're in high school today, you're 1685 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:24.039 just waiting to see the nudes, yep, exactly, just waiting 1686 01:30:24.039 --> 01:30:25.760 to see the nudes, and when they become a. 1687 01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:31.279 Vade, waiting to get off your your your parents, uh finances, 1688 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:33.319 so you can start paying for the ship on your own. 1689 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:37.279 And what happens when nobody wants to pay for your 1690 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:42.640 only fans anymore? Because that's coming. What's next, Yeah, I 1691 01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:45.199 know that's gonna be. The platforms new enough that most 1692 01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:46.560 people are still young. 1693 01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:50.119 Somebody's gonna get bored. We're still in the earl, gonna 1694 01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:52.079 get bored. Somebody's gonna get bored. And you're gonna get 1695 01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:55.960 old unless people are gonna want to look at it. Yep. 1696 01:30:56.399 --> 01:31:00.159 And you're not gonna save that money. You're gonna by 1697 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:03.960 all kinds of things to convince yourself that you've hacked 1698 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.520 life and can afford a lifestyle that will have no 1699 01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.159 consistency to it. The earning. The earning stream will have 1700 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.199 no consistency to it. There will be like a year 1701 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.520 where all of a sudden, you make sixty percent less 1702 01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.119 than you made, and you're gonna have all these fucking 1703 01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.560 bills for this lifestyle. And maybe maybe I'm wrong, Maybe 1704 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.640 these maybe these girls are stashing it away in like 1705 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:26.880 some kind of like investment vehicle when it's just sitting 1706 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:28.880 there and growing and they're not gonna use it all 1707 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.720 at once. But I somehow doubt it, because if that's 1708 01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:35.159 your mentality, then I should have no fucking idea how 1709 01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:37.239 much you make, because you sho gonna be running around 1710 01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:41.560 parading it attention seeking behavior. It'll be your downfall every time. 1711 01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:47.439 That's all I'll say about that. Moving forward here on 1712 01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:49.520 the Feedback Show, We're almost done bossed. Do you believe 1713 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:50.119 me when I say that? 1714 01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:53.239 I never believe it when you say that. 1715 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:55.720 Growing up in Ireland, Steve says, you'd be amazed by 1716 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:57.760 how many characters like McRory you meet in day to 1717 01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:01.239 day life completely agree with the co chairs that it 1718 01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.039 boiled down to Ireland versus Britton feelings. This is back 1719 01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:09.199 to the bond stuff. Fleming was probably friends with or 1720 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:11.800 related to, people in government who helped negotiate the Treaty 1721 01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:14.960 for Irish Independence that didn't grant Ireland full independence, and 1722 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.279 then to a highly contentious relationship between our countries and 1723 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.399 McCrory growing up and oh sure, growing up in an 1724 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:23.319 Irish free state would definitely have heard of this and 1725 01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:25.560 the stories of Bloody Sunday and other similar massacres and 1726 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.880 war crimes during the East Rising War of Independence in 1727 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:32.119 Civil War, McCrory probably convinced himself by out smarting Fleming 1728 01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:36.520 he had struck a blow for Irish nationalism. Is that 1729 01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:38.600 what he was after was he just pissed that Fleming 1730 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:42.800 was a brit I mean, there's part of that for sure. 1731 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.520 You know, there there was definitely some stuff that implied 1732 01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:48.880 that that he was. Yeah, that there because I mean 1733 01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:54.279 I think even I think we I think there was 1734 01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:54.960 something in. 1735 01:32:54.880 --> 01:33:05.079 There about even Fleming looking down McClory because he was Irish. Yep. 1736 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:08.439 I think that's probably most of it. And he's such 1737 01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:11.159 a stubborn fuck that he just made it his lifelong 1738 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:14.000 obsession and didn't have as much to do with Bond 1739 01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:15.680 a claim on Bond as it had to do with 1740 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:16.720 his politics and his. 1741 01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:19.800 No And I always said too, I think it's a 1742 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.199 mix of that. I also think it's just came having 1743 01:33:22.199 --> 01:33:25.720 a chip on his shoulder. I think that if if 1744 01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:32.760 if there had been if if Fleming had given him 1745 01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:38.560 money or given him credit on the book, or even mentioned, hey, 1746 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.920 I'm going to turn this one into a book. I'll 1747 01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:44.960 give you credit for it, then nothing would have happened. 1748 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.319 It all stemmed from the fact that Fleming didn't give 1749 01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:53.880 credit in any way to Kevin McClory or give him 1750 01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:59.560 a paycheck. And that is it. I mean, that is 1751 01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:01.920 not it it, But that's like one of the key 1752 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:07.960 reasons it's just pure ego, trementous and and and and 1753 01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:11.399 and listen the national the politics stuff. Sure, I have 1754 01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:16.560 no doubt that that that that. Uh uh, I would 1755 01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:19.479 say it's probably a third of it. A third, Yeah, 1756 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:23.560 you know, i'd probably I would. I I do think 1757 01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:27.920 that the the ego thing, I think that was the majority. 1758 01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:31.960 So I don't know what the what the percentage would be, 1759 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:35.119 but that's the majority. But then you know, right there 1760 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:40.479 also the politics and then also the greed. 1761 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.239 Well basically let me know if you disagree with this, 1762 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:45.640 Kevin McClory. 1763 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:50.720 I completely agree with that. 1764 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:54.600 Al from Queen's has an interesting one. First time, long 1765 01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:57.359 time congratulations on tlf X. I have one question that 1766 01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.199 I'm hoping you'll answer. Tlf started ten years ago based 1767 01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:01.920 in the premise that it used to be better. My 1768 01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.439 question is this, was it better ten years ago when 1769 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:07.119 you started TLF than it is today? So not was 1770 01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:09.600 it better when we were you know, young, and I'm 1771 01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:10.880 better in twenty fourteen? 1772 01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:12.359 Well? 1773 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:12.520 Was? 1774 01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.640 I mean twenty fourteen, that's the thing, right, I remember. 1775 01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:19.239 Well, the prospects for the network were better, that's for sure. 1776 01:35:20.079 --> 01:35:21.680 Yeah, I mean the network was better. 1777 01:35:22.319 --> 01:35:24.359 Sure, the idea of this like emerging way that we 1778 01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.640 could watch everything WW had and the vault was fucking 1779 01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:28.920 intoxicating and led to the creation of the show. I 1780 01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:32.960 couldn't possibly be that excited now about that because it's 1781 01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:35.880 going in the opposite direction. We've had it and it's 1782 01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.640 been taken away from us a little bit in Peacock 1783 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:41.640 and now even more coming up in terms of ease 1784 01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:46.399 of access. Ye. Yeah, I mean it was kind of 1785 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:51.039 before politics was about you know, who's going to lead 1786 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:53.079 to the destruction of the country. First it was less 1787 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:53.479 like that. 1788 01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:54.319 Yeah. 1789 01:35:54.399 --> 01:36:02.439 Yeah, that's fucking annoying. It's uh see twenty fourteen, what 1790 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:08.800 else was better? There weren't as many like empty haulied 1791 01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.000 out stores and stuff. 1792 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:13.319 Yeah no, no, yeah, we were still in a pre 1793 01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:14.479 COVID America just. 1794 01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:18.239 Or world significantly, so we just lost Party City. Those 1795 01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:25.199 are all closing. Wow, it's like, fuck, that's I think 1796 01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:28.520 that sucks. Don't give a care if Party City is open. 1797 01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:30.800 I just mean, like, you know, in general, like you 1798 01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:32.880 didn't have to Yeah when when stuff like that starts 1799 01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:35.159 going away, Yeah, you didn't feel like anything that has 1800 01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:37.680 hitting history to it is on the brink of fucking 1801 01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:43.720 leveraged bankruptcy. Bullshit fucking you know, can't pay its debt, 1802 01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:50.039 so we're going to close everything. Situation. What else? Social 1803 01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:55.039 media was better? Way better? Yeah, better because people used 1804 01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.880 it in much more moderation because their phones weren't quite 1805 01:36:57.920 --> 01:37:00.600 as powerful in terms of being able to access and 1806 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:03.560 update the image. The images wasn't such a big part 1807 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:05.000 of it. That hit me the other day. It's like, 1808 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.000 what really fucked us is images on social Like if 1809 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:13.399 it was mostly text, we'd be we'd beat each other's throats, 1810 01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:16.520 but it wouldn't be there wouldn't be this commercial aspect, 1811 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.079 and people wouldn't be able to make as much money 1812 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.640 off of keeping people at odds with each other as 1813 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.039 they can by. 1814 01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:27.199 Well also too, you know that the pictures don't to me, 1815 01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:30.600 weren't as much of a of a of of of 1816 01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:36.199 a problem as it is these these short videos, these 1817 01:37:36.239 --> 01:37:40.760 TikTok videos. But now everyone has everyone's doing them, and 1818 01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:43.800 you know, and there's just no there's like, there's no 1819 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:46.680 thought put into it. There's no it's just like it's 1820 01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:51.520 just you know, it's it's like I'm gonna do a 1821 01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:55.000 transition change and you're gonna see me in the morning 1822 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:58.920 looking like a fucking you know, a blob of goo, 1823 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:02.039 but then in two seconds I'm gonna be all gussied 1824 01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:06.600 up and looking fell Yeah. Those really, you know, like 1825 01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:10.159 the whole thing, like the fact that you can't go anywhere, 1826 01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:17.000 there's not everybody. Everybody is doing these shorts, these minute 1827 01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:20.880 long shorts, and it's like you just you cannot get 1828 01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:21.479 away from it. 1829 01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:26.600 I was like, like they have disabilities, like they're acting 1830 01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:33.640 like they have like like spontaneous impulse control problems, you know, 1831 01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:36.399 like they have to they have problems. They have to dance. 1832 01:38:37.079 --> 01:38:42.279 Everyone's dancing. Nothing against dancing, but George Carlin once said, 1833 01:38:42.399 --> 01:38:45.760 you know, people who are dancing appear insane to those 1834 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.399 who can hear the music, and. 1835 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.359 Which is actually funny because I did do one of those. 1836 01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:55.159 We went to a wedding and it was a very 1837 01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:55.840 small I. 1838 01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:58.199 Mean I see people like this on the street. 1839 01:38:57.880 --> 01:39:02.960 But they have you dance in the headphones. They like, 1840 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:03.640 give you a headphones. 1841 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:05.399 Ye mean, I saw that. 1842 01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:08.720 It's so fucking funny. It actually is the most funniest thing. 1843 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:10.319 Is Yeah, when you have the headphones on though, it's 1844 01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:11.359 like totally fine. 1845 01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:13.600 Just right right, But then you know, I took video 1846 01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:15.800 of it. And it's just like you're just a bunch 1847 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:17.000 of fucking idiots moving. 1848 01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:21.439 From you hear their shoes clapping on the ground while right, yeah, 1849 01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:23.680 it's spectacular, and that's that's where we're at. To me, 1850 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.279 to me, like, if it's on TikTok, I can't hear 1851 01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:29.039 the music, I just hear I just see people acting like. 1852 01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:33.960 But it's also the way that TikTok has you know, 1853 01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:36.680 I'm not a fan of TikTok. I think TikTok is 1854 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:41.359 a complete disease and I hate it. I hate it 1855 01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:49.600 because it's it's an attention ruinings yes, uh form of escapism, 1856 01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:55.279 and so I I don't let my kid go on TikTok. 1857 01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:57.840 And actually I recently took just pretty much all videos 1858 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:00.119 away and it was funny. So the the other day, 1859 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.079 you know, she was like, well, can I have you know, 1860 01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:06.720 can I can I still use Pinterest? And I was like, yeah, fine, Pinterest, 1861 01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:09.439 Like you know, I know my wife does Pinterest. I 1862 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:11.319 know you just you just post, you know, put a 1863 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:14.520 bunch of things up there that you're interested in. They 1864 01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:18.920 do videos now, they do TikTok shorts basically got to 1865 01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:21.319 demo the products in the same fucking thing. And I'm 1866 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:25.000 like no, like no, we can't do this, Like we 1867 01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:28.279 need to move away. It's just like fucking Ryan, it 1868 01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:32.039 is stupid ass toys. I gotta get away from it 1869 01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:37.920 because it is. It is toxic. It's and listen, it's 1870 01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:41.960 bad enough for adults, Okay, it is, but it's worse 1871 01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:48.199 for kids. And unfortunately kids are are are you know, 1872 01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:51.840 it's these things are a magnet to kids and it's 1873 01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:57.119 a disaster. It's a disaster. All the ship is a 1874 01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:01.000 disaster for for for this general of kids. And you know, 1875 01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:04.520 I would imagine, you know, when our kids are older 1876 01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:07.399 and they've got kids, if they choose to have kids, 1877 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:13.560 they they will there will hopefully be a better understanding 1878 01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:16.439 and a better way to go about it. But it's 1879 01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.880 like the fucking wild West with this generation, you know, 1880 01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:23.760 because they're kids. They're like the first or second generation 1881 01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:29.000 who's growing up with phones in their hands. Yeah, and 1882 01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:31.720 it's a way of life. It's like it's not necessarily 1883 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:34.000 like you know, it's not like we can hide this stuff. 1884 01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:36.119 It's not like we can say, choose this path. It's 1885 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:36.720 the only path. 1886 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:40.199 Because they need it. They're gonna need it. They're going 1887 01:41:40.239 --> 01:41:42.840 to need their phone, and I get that, but it's 1888 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:47.359 also like they they when they're there. We were all 1889 01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.800 adults when we got these phones, and we kind of understand, 1890 01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:56.239 you know, we understand what it is like, we understand 1891 01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:58.279 what is going on with this, and yes, maybe we 1892 01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:01.600 all get sucked in sometimes is where scrolling through something. 1893 01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:08.119 But at the same time, I'm not getting manipulated by it. 1894 01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:13.760 I'm not sitting there basing what I'm doing. I'm not 1895 01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.319 being getting interested in skincare because of the videos that 1896 01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:22.000 I watch. I'm not basically deciding that this is what 1897 01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:29.600 I need to do to be accepted, to be you know, admired, 1898 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:35.479 to be seen. And that's the problem. Sure, they're not there, 1899 01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:37.920 they're you know, that's that's the real issue. 1900 01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:40.920 It's amazing how I'm supposed to be this great democratizing 1901 01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:44.039 technology and supposed to give us access to all kinds 1902 01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:49.239 of perspectives and the styles, trends, thoughts, outlooks that different 1903 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:51.960 from ours. That was the promise of the Internet, and 1904 01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:52.920 in connected. 1905 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:54.880 It will it will at some point, it will when 1906 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:57.720 when they fucking everyone seems to use it to make 1907 01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:01.720 sure that they're exactly like everybody else, right, which is 1908 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:04.319 hilarious because why do you even need the phone then 1909 01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:07.920 just copy each other, right, And I mean it's like 1910 01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:09.920 it's funny because the whole idea is that, you know, 1911 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:13.399 these kinds of things were supposed to open the idea, 1912 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:17.119 open the mind to being more yourself than not. 1913 01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.279 Not it's not that at all, because that's boring, Like, 1914 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:25.399 you know, yeah, the Arab Spring. It's like, you know, 1915 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.600 Facebook leading to like cultural revolution in a country that 1916 01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:35.039 then installs a government that's ten times worse because the 1917 01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:37.960 will of the people. It's like, we've been through enough 1918 01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:40.760 repetitions of pretending that this technology is going to set 1919 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:43.479 us free, and we realize that in almost every case, 1920 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:47.920 the unintended consequences overwhelm any positive effect it has for 1921 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:50.399 every relative you can stay in touch with. Because of Facebook, 1922 01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:53.760 you're at war with six more, right, And that's just 1923 01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:55.800 something that would not be the case if the platform 1924 01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.760 didn't exist. That is the platform's fault. That is not 1925 01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:02.680 to suggest that people made the platform to create that, 1926 01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:05.600 but they're certainly not adjusting the platform to prevent it 1927 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:09.680 because you can't, you cannot, for a second, do anything 1928 01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:13.800 that will discourage people from staying on platform. It's very, 1929 01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:17.319 very simple, and even as everyone's been made a hip 1930 01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:20.560 to that, they can't stop. They even get worse. And 1931 01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:24.920 these these these these people are are just taking their 1932 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:30.239 phones out and recording themselves dancing in public. Yeah, and 1933 01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:33.520 I hope they're having fun, But I don't get the 1934 01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:36.800 sense they're doing the video to have fun. I get 1935 01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:40.880 the sense they're doing the video because there's something missing, yes, 1936 01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:43.159 and they're trying to smile through it. I can't help 1937 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:44.760 but see tragedy in a lot of these things. And 1938 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.119 maybe I'm just something, just a weirdo, and that's but 1939 01:44:48.279 --> 01:44:51.079 I don't know. There's there's too many in the email 1940 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:53.000 are touched on it. There's too many of these like 1941 01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:57.039 life coach people who end up, you know, doing the 1942 01:44:57.079 --> 01:44:59.640 heart felt like video in two years about how they 1943 01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:03.359 had to like get divorced and you know, their kids 1944 01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:05.960 fucking hate them, and it's like and they were out 1945 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:08.000 there trying to tell us how to live, you know, 1946 01:45:09.640 --> 01:45:15.319 try to tell us, like, you know, just just eat 1947 01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:19.800 a California diet and everything's gonna be fine. Yeah, and 1948 01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:24.840 California has highest doors right in Cana. Fucking misery all 1949 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.520 over the place. I don't know, it's it's very uh, 1950 01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:32.640 we're a very weird time where when people are their 1951 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:40.079 most vulnerable, they seem to think that projecting confidence online 1952 01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:43.920 is the answer. And it's like I just see it 1953 01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:47.039 as a as a as a cry for help, not 1954 01:45:47.079 --> 01:45:49.840 for not for a sign of a some kind of 1955 01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:53.760 personal rediscovery. You know, these are damaged people. You know. 1956 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.359 It's like like the a lot of like the alternative 1957 01:45:57.359 --> 01:45:59.680 medicine world and like the yoga and spiritual healing world 1958 01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:01.520 and stuff, a lot of people like had drawna they 1959 01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.960 had drawn to that because they ended up getting some 1960 01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:07.039 kind of a chronic disease that modern medicine couldn't allay 1961 01:46:07.079 --> 01:46:10.079 their pain well enough, right, And so of course, I mean, 1962 01:46:10.079 --> 01:46:12.560 if you're in fucking agony and you've been given this 1963 01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:15.479 fucking life sentence for agony, of course you're going to 1964 01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:19.039 seek out somebody that promises, you know, somebody. First of all, 1965 01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:22.760 that says, of course you know, of course you're not 1966 01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:24.800 getting any better because you're trusting doctors, and that would 1967 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:28.079 be stupid, and I'm not of course, you know they're 1968 01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:31.199 idiot doctors, just like they're idiot anybody else. But you know, 1969 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:34.479 it's like I don't know anything about this shit, so 1970 01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:38.399 that's why you should follow me, you know, right right right. 1971 01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:40.560 It's like, well, I don't know. I think you need 1972 01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:46.520 to know something before. And it's but they know how 1973 01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:50.680 to find people that they can get to think that way. 1974 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.960 They're sort of like like a population of potential leads. 1975 01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:01.600 Oh this person, this person's dissatisfied, this person, you know, 1976 01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:04.920 is in a miserable place because they've been dealt a 1977 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:06.880 bad hand. Now is the time for me to move 1978 01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:11.640 in with my brand of you know, it's amos spirituality 1979 01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:16.119 almost you know, yep, And it becomes really dark, really dark, 1980 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:20.039 because everybody's smiling, but no one's smiling on the inside. 1981 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:22.119 Everyone's everyone's transacting. 1982 01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:24.239 I don't know. 1983 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:27.319 Thanks a lot for putting us down that road, Joe. 1984 01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:34.720 So let's see. David said, Tina Turner was the face 1985 01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:37.920 of the new South Wales rugby League. So we're trying 1986 01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:41.600 to get Tina for something that's supposed to qualify a movie. 1987 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:44.319 Do you know why people bring up Tina Turner for cinema? 1988 01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:47.960 I don't know, I remember either. 1989 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:49.039 I don't remember why. 1990 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:53.359 Brett and the Heart's still in their pjs. Jeff bretton 1991 01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:55.760 the heart's still in their pj's presents, all open, kids 1992 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:58.159 playing with the new toys. Brett smiles at the bounty 1993 01:47:58.159 --> 01:47:59.880 he is able to provide his family and looks at 1994 01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.560 watch his watch to realize that Christmas story is about 1995 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:06.680 to start fresh when the cordless rings stir it. 1996 01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:12.239 Man, I'm on, crackhead, I cead. 1997 01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:17.279 You just joined Christmas a second ago. 1998 01:48:18.479 --> 01:48:29.279 Uh here smoke crack creaky Huh do you know that 1999 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:32.000 that's good will hunting qualified? Because an hour Summer SLAMO 2000 01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:35.000 five episode Edge tells Vince, it's not your fault, over 2001 01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:40.079 and over. It's not your fault. You're from North Carolina. 2002 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:49.640 Uh no, no, unfortunately, not unfortunately, not to. 2003 01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:52.920 That aforementioned phone call, Andrew says, picturing Davy's Christmas phone 2004 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:55.720 called to Brett, and Davy is actually calling from the 2005 01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:57.359 next room. 2006 01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:01.039 Oh yes, that's that is exactly it is that Davy 2007 01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:06.680 is dabe. Oh how'd you find me? 2008 01:49:08.279 --> 01:49:08.720 I was. 2009 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:12.600 I was in different places. 2010 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:18.239 And poly cautiously, I picture steam Beat walking up to 2011 01:49:18.279 --> 01:49:20.119 his opponent with a cup of coffee like Lumberg and 2012 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:24.039 office space. Yeah, let's talk about the finish. Ricky steam 2013 01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:29.319 Cup goes up to somebody. You guys hanging out? Are 2014 01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:29.840 you friends? 2015 01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:34.039 Yeah? What's going on? Guys? What are you doing? Yeah? 2016 01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:36.840 Only here to talk about the match? Yeah, no, okay, all. 2017 01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:42.560 Right, only here? Uh Brett wants. Brett wants a tournament 2018 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:45.800 of runners up into l f X. Like characters that 2019 01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:49.920 weren't able to make it, like Lap Sean Connery laps, 2020 01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:53.840 local businessman whose business is disrupted by a movie abyss 2021 01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:57.800 Hult Cogan, but the action adventure comedy star Diana Hart, 2022 01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:01.640 Shane Douglass, Shawn Michaels, Hogan, Linda Hogan. 2023 01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:05.680 I'm sorry. I like the idea of Hulk Hogan, not 2024 01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:09.760 the wrestler, but the action movie star, adventure comedy star. 2025 01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:11.319 That's fucking money. 2026 01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:15.319 It's something to think about. It won't happen, but I 2027 01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:19.439 guess it's fun to think about. Uh, Tim, Well, Tim, 2028 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:21.600 thank you. I read the email about the Princess Diana thing, 2029 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:25.039 and I understand that it wasn't just a pop Rozzi 2030 01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:27.000 to blame, but apparently her driver. Did you know this? 2031 01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:29.319 Her driver was trashed? 2032 01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:33.039 I didn't know that. Actually I did not know that 2033 01:50:32.680 --> 01:50:35.479 her drivercohol is a problem. 2034 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.399 We were talking about her, of course, in the context 2035 01:50:37.399 --> 01:50:40.359 of some of the British premiers that we took in. 2036 01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:44.560 Yeah because she was there and yeah before she met 2037 01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:45.039 her demise. 2038 01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:48.079 Lucky Night ct writes on her ECW coverage. To me, 2039 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:50.960 ECW's popularity was its doom. It was at its best 2040 01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:54.199 when watching it felt transgressive. Staying up until twelve to 2041 01:50:54.239 --> 01:50:56.359 one am and flipping channels because you weren't sure who 2042 01:50:56.359 --> 01:50:58.079 they mailed the tape to this week was part of 2043 01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:01.399 the experience. Once I got regular TV, a big part 2044 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:06.399 of the magic was gone, he declares. Jeff writes ECW 2045 01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.239 ECW don Kallis looks like a local radio DJ whose 2046 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:12.000 show was brought down when Howard Stern came into the market. 2047 01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:13.880 Absolutely agree with that. 2048 01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:19.119 Jerome likes the Living Dangerously two thousand episode because we 2049 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:21.960 talked about Mike Costumes ECW contract and delve into it deeply. 2050 01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:24.199 And so he says, this podcast allows us to tell 2051 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:26.680 anyone who asks that we listen to a legal analysis 2052 01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:31.199 podcast whereby documents are discussed and broken down for better understanding. 2053 01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:33.600 Of contract law. It's not wrong. 2054 01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:35.600 I mean, look, you can say it if you need to. 2055 01:51:37.039 --> 01:51:40.119 Abel I agree with what that. I agree with Entertainment 2056 01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:43.079 from Phoenix Abel co chairs. Like so many others in 2057 01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.560 the Solar system, I love hearing about Eric Bischoff's slow 2058 01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.159 moving but smart equipped ranch life, especially when it involves 2059 01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:52.520 what he eats. Although many although many of his older 2060 01:51:52.520 --> 01:51:55.479 social media posts Pretna are now deleted, I can distinctly 2061 01:51:55.479 --> 01:51:58.079 remember one where Bischoff described his evening dinner after recently 2062 01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:01.079 arriving back in Cody. Although I can't call the words verbatim, 2063 01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:03.800 I remember Bischoff talking about smoked salmon being cooked over 2064 01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:07.479 an open flame with melted cheddar. Of course it sounded incredible, 2065 01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:10.039 even for someone that doesn't even eat fish. To hell 2066 01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:13.479 with Minnesota and their mint jelly. Thanksgiving with the Bishoffs 2067 01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:14.399 is where I want to be. 2068 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:19.520 Here we go. That's very funny, William wants to know. 2069 01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:22.039 Now, I'm curious. Was Jim's cheese steak named in the 2070 01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:25.199 ECW bankruptcy. I would think that if uber Eats existed, 2071 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:27.760 then there would have been a constant stream of cheese 2072 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.600 steak deliveries to Big sal And, seeing how these guys 2073 01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:33.199 weren't even getting their seventy five dollars pay days, there 2074 01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:34.920 would have to be some kind of tab or line 2075 01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:41.239 of credit between gyms and AJHG Corp. Tremendous. Oh. The 2076 01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:45.479 ECW game William Hilarious for PlayStation William says was absolutely 2077 01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:48.359 one of the worst games ever played. The animation was terrible, 2078 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:51.399 even for the time. The announcing was awful, just repeating 2079 01:52:51.399 --> 01:52:53.640 the same few lines and not really time to the action. 2080 01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:56.880 The gameplay was pathetic. I can't imagine how Acclaim would 2081 01:52:56.920 --> 01:52:58.960 put their name on it. It felt so rushed and 2082 01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.800 halfway finished, I wrung what little joy got out of it, 2083 01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:03.800 but I put it away permanently after a couple of weeks. 2084 01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:06.279 We're talking about that ECW video game. What a piece 2085 01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:09.399 of shit that was? Tool Belt for Daddy asked the question, 2086 01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:10.920 Am I the only one who would love having the 2087 01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:12.079 life of lapsed Bischoff? 2088 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:19.600 Listen, it's not a bad life. I'm not making fun 2089 01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:22.119 of the life. I'm making fun of him. 2090 01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:23.199 Living my life. It's him. 2091 01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:30.239 It's him, all right, because it's so phony, all right, 2092 01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.199 that's the problem. I think of him whenever I see 2093 01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:36.840 Yellowstone on TV. Yeah, of course, I'm sure he thinks 2094 01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:37.600 of him severaltimes. 2095 01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:41.199 He's also someone I gotta find this before you read 2096 01:53:41.239 --> 01:53:44.880 this next thing, Oh Christopher, he writ some Patreon I'm 2097 01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:47.560 picturing easy listening to this, all set to be offended 2098 01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:50.039 at any mention of him and starting to vent when 2099 01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:51.960 the coach here is get to the last thirty minutes, 2100 01:53:52.319 --> 01:53:55.520 then he hears the comment about the butter churn from 2101 01:53:55.600 --> 01:54:01.800 sharper Image and realize this, you have a point. 2102 01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:07.359 Exactly, It's exactly. It's about he's about to like he's 2103 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:10.119 he's like on the verge of going into a rant, 2104 01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:11.760 and then he's like, oh, yeah, you know he wants it. 2105 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:28.359 He's the laps Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 2106 01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:31.960 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 2107 01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:34.159 Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed 2108 01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:36.199 Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to 2109 01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:39.079 take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote 2110 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:41.399 for The Lapse Fan to win the award for Wrestling 2111 01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:44.279 Podcast of the Year, click on the show's notes, follow 2112 01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:45.720 the link and do the right thing. 2113 01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:04.079 He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack NCRN SEO 2114 01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:05.479 and JP Soro. 2115 01:55:06.560 --> 01:55:09.800 Hey coachairs. Listening to the latest ECW episode and the 2116 01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:12.640 guy talking about the myth of the Paul Hayman kool 2117 01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:17.119 Aid compelled me to write you all an email when 2118 01:55:17.119 --> 01:55:20.880 the wrestler says it wasn't the Paul Hayman kool aid, 2119 01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:23.560 it was being on TV that kept those guys little 2120 01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:27.119 ecw It got me thinking about again how TLF uses 2121 01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:29.520 pro wrestling of the nineties and two thousands as a 2122 01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:34.119 mirror to modern society. TLF has essentially been my thirties, 2123 01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:36.279 and now as I approach my forties, I think a 2124 01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:40.159 lot about what I call the millennials curse, this idea 2125 01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:43.239 that we're told our whole life to make sacrifices and 2126 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:45.960 give up important life events in the name of being 2127 01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:50.039 successful or important. Many of us will never know our 2128 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:53.680 true value because we were tricked in our twenties into 2129 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:58.279 thinking we were important. And if an employer can convince 2130 01:55:58.319 --> 01:56:01.640 you that you matter, they can convince you to work 2131 01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:05.319 for less than your worth. Does that sound like Paul 2132 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:08.560 Hammond and vinsick manned anybody else? I think any millennial 2133 01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:12.600 who chased professional success can relate to everything Danny Doring 2134 01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:15.640 says when he talks about the chase of fame. It 2135 01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:18.880 talks about the chase of fame is what appealed to 2136 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:22.960 him more than the alleged Paul Hamon kool aid. As 2137 01:56:22.960 --> 01:56:25.399 a child of the nineties, you were told to chase 2138 01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:28.720 success in recognition. You weren't told to look for comfort 2139 01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:33.000 or stability. You were told that you had to be relevant, 2140 01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:37.680 that you had to succeed. As I talked about before, 2141 01:56:38.079 --> 01:56:40.520 my degree is in journalism, and although I was lucky 2142 01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:43.159 to get out of the business early in my career, 2143 01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:49.319 I watched many friends fall for the so called relevance 2144 01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:53.119 of getting clicks on social media and online articles. It 2145 01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:56.399 didn't matter that they weren't paid a fair wage or 2146 01:56:56.439 --> 01:57:00.439 had their or had fair working hours and standards. They 2147 01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:04.880 were quote relevant and relevance was all you needed to 2148 01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:08.359 have a happy life. I think, unfortunately it took a 2149 01:57:08.359 --> 01:57:12.039 global pandemic to start to break some of that mindset. 2150 01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:14.640 But I just look at what I call the millennial's 2151 01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:18.520 curse as this idea that fucked up our brains and 2152 01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:21.560 screwed ourselves out of comfort in twenties and thirties because 2153 01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:25.720 we were constantly told to be relevant, no matter, to matter, 2154 01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:29.119 to be important. I think we were told that money 2155 01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:32.079 would come, But I'm sure that a lot of listeners 2156 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:37.760 hold some sort of grudge for the shit work we 2157 01:57:37.800 --> 01:57:40.720 did at shit pay in the name of this idea 2158 01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:44.439 that we wouldn't be quote failures if our job title 2159 01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:47.880 wasn't prestigious. The money never caught up in the same 2160 01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:50.800 way we were promised, and many of us had to 2161 01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:54.239 look at ourselves in the mirror and say fuck every 2162 01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:57.159 adult in the nineties who told me I was better 2163 01:57:57.239 --> 01:57:59.640 than someone who put in an honest living in a 2164 01:57:59.680 --> 01:58:03.359 trade job. That's why I could never truly blame wrestlers, 2165 01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:06.479 because I see the idea of the wrestler in many 2166 01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:09.159 of the creative friends I have who will never know 2167 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:13.199 their value as always. TLF is almost Shakespeare and the 2168 01:58:13.239 --> 01:58:17.399 way you hold up the mirror to society though through art, 2169 01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:20.800 it amazes me how you find these parts of nineties 2170 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:24.840 wrestling that explain modern americane. 2171 01:58:25.239 --> 01:58:29.159 Yes, Jeff, that's an almost perfectly written email. Man. I 2172 01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:31.079 say almost because I want to try to say something 2173 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:35.479 about it, but it's all there. It's so true. It's 2174 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:38.279 so true. I mean, when you chase relevance, you serve 2175 01:58:38.319 --> 01:58:42.840 everyone but yourself. You serve the algo, you serve the 2176 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:45.920 platform owners, you serve the people who don't have to 2177 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:48.560 worry about being relevant. They just somehow are able to 2178 01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:52.680 tax your work and get a little little bit of it. 2179 01:58:52.720 --> 01:58:55.119 And it's all these coding people who decided to find 2180 01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:58.680 who decided to set up, you know, all these ways 2181 01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:02.600 to set up the platform and own the stream of 2182 01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:05.520 advertising in such a way that they get paid even 2183 01:59:05.560 --> 01:59:07.680 if they couldn't produce a single creative thing in their 2184 01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:11.159 fucking lives. Yep, but they know how to build a platform. 2185 01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:14.319 And so there are the new gods and they control 2186 01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:20.359 the gates. Yes, it is an empty promise. Yes, it's 2187 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:24.279 easier to underpay somebody when you feel when you're able to, 2188 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.720 you know, make them feel like you value them. Paul 2189 01:59:27.800 --> 01:59:30.079 was great at that, and he was good because he 2190 01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:31.960 was clearly making stars out of people who had no 2191 01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:33.760 right to be in the wrestling business, such as it 2192 01:59:33.800 --> 01:59:38.079 was constituted at the time. They didn't Spike Dudley bless 2193 01:59:38.079 --> 01:59:41.720 his heart, worked his ass off, great guy from all accounts, 2194 01:59:42.439 --> 01:59:44.279 would have made ten cents in the wrestling business of 2195 01:59:44.319 --> 01:59:50.119 Paul Hayman didn't a have ECW and b couldn't look 2196 01:59:50.159 --> 01:59:52.800 him in the face and say I value you, you 2197 01:59:52.840 --> 01:59:56.720 know right? But it's true. Yeah, that is very much 2198 01:59:56.800 --> 02:00:00.800 a condition of nineties kids, I think because we were 2199 02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.840 we and especially as YouTube came out, we were kind 2200 02:00:04.840 --> 02:00:07.640 of sold this idea that we'd all we all could 2201 02:00:07.640 --> 02:00:09.640 be famous if we just tried hard enough. 2202 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:13.119 Right, or if we just you know, had the right video. 2203 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:17.960 Right exactly, And we don't really know what it means. 2204 02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:20.920 We don't really know what it gets us to be famous. 2205 02:00:20.960 --> 02:00:23.920 We just know we want to find out right, right. 2206 02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:28.520 It's the Counting Crow song. It's uh, mister Jones, it's 2207 02:00:28.560 --> 02:00:30.039 we all want to be big, big stars, but we 2208 02:00:30.079 --> 02:00:31.520 don't know why, and we don't know how. 2209 02:00:32.560 --> 02:00:32.960 Mm hmm. 2210 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:36.560 Yeah. And that's that's the thing is so many people 2211 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:39.920 find out that like it's just it's all, there's no 2212 02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:43.359 money to be made, Like you're just now if you're 2213 02:00:43.359 --> 02:00:46.800 a creative person, you're now just giving it away in 2214 02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:48.760 the hopes that I don't know, it's it's no different 2215 02:00:48.760 --> 02:00:51.600 than hoping someone discovers you would have fucking you know, 2216 02:00:52.520 --> 02:00:55.680 at to Speak Easy or at a fucking nightclub. Yeah, 2217 02:00:55.760 --> 02:00:59.560 a big digital place where you hope someone finds you. 2218 02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:03.279 It's very strange. It's very strange thing that people everyone 2219 02:01:03.279 --> 02:01:06.760 thinks they're about to be discovered somehow. It's very weird. 2220 02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:11.279 But I mean, hey, you know it's no different than 2221 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:15.560 than Wizard of Oz and yeah, sure, Schwabs Schwab's Pharmacy 2222 02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:18.600 and sitting there hoping somebody sees you put you in 2223 02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:21.640 a picture so good. You know, it's just a different 2224 02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:23.239 way of doing it. I mean, in a weird way 2225 02:01:23.640 --> 02:01:25.560 that's at least better because it required you to go 2226 02:01:25.600 --> 02:01:27.600 to something right, and so you know, you had to 2227 02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:30.199 go to California and then go to Schwabs and buy 2228 02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:32.600 a fucking you know soda. 2229 02:01:33.039 --> 02:01:35.239 It's self selected in a way for people who at 2230 02:01:35.359 --> 02:01:39.439 least cared enough to make the trip right, and who 2231 02:01:39.479 --> 02:01:42.039 cared enough to scrounge together the money to afford the trip. 2232 02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:46.359 And now there's no barrier to entry, and there's a 2233 02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:50.359 million applications and the reason the one person gets picked 2234 02:01:50.399 --> 02:01:54.720 is is completely arbitrary. And you know, Tktua is Hoktua 2235 02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:56.680 because this guy walked up to her when she was 2236 02:01:56.760 --> 02:02:00.880 leaving a nightclub or whatever, a bar and interviewed her. Yep, 2237 02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:03.319 And that guy was doing that for the same reason, 2238 02:02:03.560 --> 02:02:08.319 chasing views that he you know, thinks he can convert 2239 02:02:08.359 --> 02:02:11.479 into a I guess, a career. I think I think 2240 02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:12.800 one of the things I'll say it's the fust thing 2241 02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.560 I'll say about this, it's like, I think a lot 2242 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:19.039 of this creator economy stuff, it dangles this lifestyle in 2243 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:22.199 front of people, it gives them, and I think that's 2244 02:02:22.239 --> 02:02:23.920 why a lot of them fall in love with, like, 2245 02:02:25.439 --> 02:02:27.479 you know, like policies where no one has to work 2246 02:02:27.560 --> 02:02:32.039 or anything. It's like they think there might actually be 2247 02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:35.800 a way to survive and pay all your bills if 2248 02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:40.600 you just stay online enough, right right, Well I can't, 2249 02:02:41.239 --> 02:02:43.119 it's all. It's always going to be the time you 2250 02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:46.960 spend offline that's going to allow you, yep, to to 2251 02:02:47.039 --> 02:02:51.199 create security for yourself. But I think that that's that's 2252 02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:53.239 a lot of the a lot of the frustration, and 2253 02:02:54.000 --> 02:02:56.479 you know, the venom you see online is like this 2254 02:02:56.640 --> 02:03:00.479 consistent frustration with the fact that you can't tweet through it, 2255 02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:04.840 like you can't you can't read reimagine society in a 2256 02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:08.720 way where suddenly you can afford everything because you just 2257 02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:13.239 keep like you know, making political arguments all the time 2258 02:03:13.279 --> 02:03:17.159 about why things should change and then collecting evidence that 2259 02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:20.279 proves your point, all towards this world where like you 2260 02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:22.800 don't have to work, and it's like and the definition 2261 02:03:22.840 --> 02:03:24.000 of work is you don't want to do it, by 2262 02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:28.560 the way, that's a you know point. Yeah, I think 2263 02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:34.520 there's like this this really fading idealism that we can 2264 02:03:34.680 --> 02:03:40.760 just advocate until eventually we can just get paid to 2265 02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:44.880 express our thoughts all day, especially if we dress it 2266 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:48.079 up like in well produced videos. It's like, no, no one, 2267 02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:51.159 no one's going to pay for your thoughts. I mean 2268 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:55.199 maybe they maybe you can stumble on a little niche 2269 02:03:55.239 --> 02:03:57.479 audience that will do that. And I'm saying it's impossible, 2270 02:03:57.520 --> 02:04:01.000 but it seems like a lot lot of people think 2271 02:04:01.079 --> 02:04:03.760 that that is a world that they can force into existence. 2272 02:04:04.800 --> 02:04:05.079 Yeah. 2273 02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:07.840 I mean that's that they didn't have anything to say yet. 2274 02:04:07.880 --> 02:04:08.800 They didn't have anything to. 2275 02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:14.239 Say yet, and and the and that's the I mean, 2276 02:04:14.279 --> 02:04:17.560 that's that's that's exactly it. Like they want to find 2277 02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:20.359 they want the they want the status, but they don't 2278 02:04:20.359 --> 02:04:21.119 want to put the work in. 2279 02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:22.840 They don't want to live a life so that they 2280 02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:25.960 actually have something to say. They want to just say things. 2281 02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:31.279 It's like all right, or look hot. It's like, oh god, right, right, 2282 02:04:34.239 --> 02:04:36.479 Michaelson writes to us after the Bird Alive show. I 2283 02:04:36.520 --> 02:04:38.960 know it was, yeah, it was bird Alive. We're talking 2284 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:41.560 about what the first Undertaker Mankind match was on TV, 2285 02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:45.520 and he points out that there's a Colosseum video that 2286 02:04:45.520 --> 02:04:49.079 has an Undertaker Mankind dark match that we had called 2287 02:04:49.119 --> 02:04:52.439 out as not He'd pointed it out and we said, 2288 02:04:52.439 --> 02:04:54.239 well that that wasn't ever on TV. That was the 2289 02:04:54.239 --> 02:04:56.239 first time they wrestled was on TV, but in fact 2290 02:04:56.840 --> 02:04:59.039 it was included on the Colosseum video of the show. 2291 02:04:59.119 --> 02:05:00.840 I think it might be revent to the Taker we're 2292 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:03.760 thinking of here or something like that. I can't remember 2293 02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:05.920 the exact show, but I did want to give him 2294 02:05:05.960 --> 02:05:08.800 a fistbump for that because it wasn't a foul correction 2295 02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:12.159 at all. If it was on Coliseum video, then video 2296 02:05:12.239 --> 02:05:14.399 exists of the match. I thought it was just I'm 2297 02:05:14.399 --> 02:05:15.760 going to look up the first time these two ever 2298 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:19.920 wrestled and call that out. When we did the show 2299 02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:24.520 where Dan Peterson commentates in Italian, Choppin Eaquals Detriment had 2300 02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:27.119 the translation. He says. The translation by Dan Peterson says 2301 02:05:27.279 --> 02:05:29.800 it's no secret and Nors calls him out for no taxes. 2302 02:05:30.000 --> 02:05:31.920 It's no secret that most of the taxes are here 2303 02:05:31.920 --> 02:05:34.520 in Milan instead of tax cheats. What he means is 2304 02:05:34.680 --> 02:05:36.960 Milan is the capital of Lombardi, which is the most 2305 02:05:37.000 --> 02:05:39.479 effluent state in Italy, and for years they have been 2306 02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:42.039 disgruntled that all their tax money goes to Rome to 2307 02:05:42.039 --> 02:05:44.680 support the poorer South. In fact, there's been a separatist 2308 02:05:44.760 --> 02:05:48.319 movement in Lombardi, Ala, Catalonia and Spain for the same reason. 2309 02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:51.079 So what Dan Peterson is saying is you're coming out 2310 02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:54.000 here saying you guys cheat on your taxes, but which 2311 02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:57.720 is especially rich because they feel like they pay the 2312 02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:59.079 taxes of the rest of the country. 2313 02:05:59.119 --> 02:05:59.319 Wow. 2314 02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:01.680 So I actually had more resonance that I bet micro 2315 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:02.680 Tunda had any idea. 2316 02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:05.479 I'm sure he's just doing a stupid gimmick. 2317 02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:08.199 Jeff says Ian Fleming would be a creepy ass deviant 2318 02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:11.039 art redditor and not an author if he came along today. 2319 02:06:12.880 --> 02:06:16.880 Oh absolutely, And I mean still be smoking a cigar 2320 02:06:16.920 --> 02:06:19.319 with a cigar, I mean cigarette with a cigarette. 2321 02:06:18.880 --> 02:06:22.239 Holder, and just two more before we kick it over 2322 02:06:22.399 --> 02:06:25.560 to Blake as we finally do the house cleaning that 2323 02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:28.279 can only be necessary around the first of the year. 2324 02:06:29.079 --> 02:06:32.439 This one's from Amber I Gabe. Yeah, well, get what 2325 02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:32.920 did I say? 2326 02:06:33.720 --> 02:06:33.840 Is it? 2327 02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:34.239 Blake? 2328 02:06:34.479 --> 02:06:36.520 Oh? I have a letter from another letter. It's just 2329 02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:39.880 a quick closing thought from Blake, and then we go 2330 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:43.640 to and actually, isn't it isn't Blake, It's Ben Blake. 2331 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:48.840 But this quickly from Amber dear co chairs. I'm visiting 2332 02:06:48.840 --> 02:06:51.079 my partner's folks for a few weeks, and while they 2333 02:06:51.079 --> 02:06:53.119 are nice people, it's been a bumpy few days because 2334 02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:54.960 I came out to them as a trans woman roughly 2335 02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:57.720 a week before. They are both conservative, so I wasn't 2336 02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:00.319 sure how it would go. Her mother is supportive, just 2337 02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:02.199 doesn't really address it though. He laughs when I make 2338 02:07:02.239 --> 02:07:04.920 sissy jokes at my own expense, which helps ease tension. 2339 02:07:05.039 --> 02:07:08.199 He's a former National Security Agency NSA, so he's got 2340 02:07:08.199 --> 02:07:10.680 that intimidating, stoic demeanor. One night, he told us a 2341 02:07:10.680 --> 02:07:12.520 story about one of his military buddies who picked up 2342 02:07:12.520 --> 02:07:13.920 a tie woman at a bar and took her to 2343 02:07:13.920 --> 02:07:15.600 his room. When they find out that she was a 2344 02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:17.640 he then his friend kicked her out of his room. 2345 02:07:17.840 --> 02:07:20.399 He's probably heard this story before. The devious trans the 2346 02:07:20.439 --> 02:07:22.720 trap who seduces the innocent straight guy only to reveal 2347 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:26.960 a cock size scott All scattle broad. Typically, the devious 2348 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:28.560 trans gets a beating in the end. There's a whole 2349 02:07:28.560 --> 02:07:31.199 Sopranos episode about this story, plus it shows up in 2350 02:07:31.239 --> 02:07:34.479 numerous movies and books. Rick Steiner probably as nightmares about 2351 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:36.439 oh about this kind of thing because he's an insecure, 2352 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:39.239 fake bitch. So her dad's telling this to us completely 2353 02:07:39.279 --> 02:07:41.760 oblivious to how awkward this is for everyone, especially me. 2354 02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:44.039 His future daughter in law constantly struggles to feel like 2355 02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:48.039 a real person. Sometimes I feel faker than Shane McMahon's punches, 2356 02:07:49.720 --> 02:07:51.359 and they have been hit on by straight minute bars. 2357 02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:53.199 I've heard tell him I'm trans up front. Okay, yep, 2358 02:07:53.520 --> 02:07:55.399 I have friends who are attacked on the street just 2359 02:07:55.439 --> 02:07:58.600 because I think a lot of trans people got file wrestling, 2360 02:07:58.640 --> 02:08:02.000 because those journeys are also right with shame and pain. Yeah, 2361 02:08:02.079 --> 02:08:04.319 it's scary because you never know how people will react 2362 02:08:04.399 --> 02:08:07.319 when you tell people your trans up front. I know 2363 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:09.920 from experience that men like his friend consider trans women 2364 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:11.960 to be men. Therefore it's okay to hit them, especially 2365 02:08:12.039 --> 02:08:14.119 if there was an attraction from their side. I'll never 2366 02:08:14.159 --> 02:08:17.640 understand why men's masculinely is so threatened by trans women 2367 02:08:17.720 --> 02:08:21.560 queer people because news flash, hormone tree Okay, okay, Anyway, 2368 02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:23.560 that night I retired to the bedroom and broke down 2369 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:26.159 for a while because this shit is scary and empathy 2370 02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:28.359 is short, is in short supply. But I put it 2371 02:08:28.359 --> 02:08:34.680 all aside and turned on that cast male bag. Addition, 2372 02:08:36.119 --> 02:08:38.319 I love these shows because you never know what's gonna happen. 2373 02:08:38.359 --> 02:08:41.800 Plus Boss often serenades us undeserving Fox with wrestler themes. 2374 02:08:42.960 --> 02:08:45.960 We asked them too late tonight. Maybe next time, Amber, Yeah, 2375 02:08:46.039 --> 02:08:48.720 where else can you get bushwhacker Luke rambling on about 2376 02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:54.359 stone necklaces to make what to make? You forget that 2377 02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:57.439 your father in law will never understand you as usual, 2378 02:08:57.600 --> 02:09:02.560 You guys make everything tolerable for a few hours. PS. 2379 02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:04.520 Last night, my pardner rast if I wanted to watch 2380 02:09:04.560 --> 02:09:07.159 a w since her parents have cable. I immediately said no. 2381 02:09:07.680 --> 02:09:12.560 Coming out to them as trains is one thing, but 2382 02:09:12.720 --> 02:09:15.840 even but even I'm not bold enough to inform them 2383 02:09:15.840 --> 02:09:20.359 that I'm a fan of this bullshit non ballet buffoonery. Wow, 2384 02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:25.479 thanks guys, Amber, thank you Amber. That is that is something, man. 2385 02:09:25.399 --> 02:09:31.640 Yeah, that is that's that's that's a that's tough. I 2386 02:09:31.680 --> 02:09:33.680 can't even, I mean I can't. I have no no 2387 02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:35.520 frame of reference for that. I just know that that 2388 02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:40.479 stuff is difficult, and uh, you know, glad, I'm glad. 2389 02:09:40.600 --> 02:09:43.920 I'm glad that we that we can be there. 2390 02:09:44.880 --> 02:09:45.760 I'm sorry, I say that again. 2391 02:09:46.039 --> 02:09:48.319 We can be there, I said, I'm I said, I'm 2392 02:09:48.359 --> 02:09:49.640 just glad that we can be there. 2393 02:09:50.079 --> 02:09:52.239 Yeah. Yeah, that's that's awesome, that putting in. 2394 02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:54.920 The cast, because it's I know that that whole situation 2395 02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:58.000 that could be really tough. You know, it can be 2396 02:09:58.039 --> 02:09:58.840 really really tough. 2397 02:09:58.960 --> 02:10:01.800 Glad that putting in the cast can help, even just 2398 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:08.520 a little bit. Absolutely, So, We've got a tremendous listenership 2399 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:12.119 and it's going to keep continuing in the length of 2400 02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:17.079 this fucking show. I think I attest to that this 2401 02:10:17.159 --> 02:10:20.000 episode here to kick off twenty twenty five, I'm going 2402 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:22.680 to close here as far as the readings with Ben, 2403 02:10:22.720 --> 02:10:24.359 and then we'll hear from Gabe and send you on 2404 02:10:24.439 --> 02:10:28.560 your way to make a twenty twenty five count. Ben writes, 2405 02:10:28.600 --> 02:10:30.920 I've been listening to tlf for years, and probably more 2406 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:33.159 intently than most, even though I'm not and never have 2407 02:10:33.239 --> 02:10:36.600 been a fan of professional wrestling. I love that subject 2408 02:10:36.640 --> 02:10:38.720 line is a brief synopsis in the closing days of 2409 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:42.800 TLFX that notwithstanding I think that everything I've learned from 2410 02:10:42.840 --> 02:10:45.960 that cast mostly boils down to this life is almost 2411 02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:49.840 entirely just one big fucking work. So like what you like, 2412 02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:53.600 laugh at what you think is funny, support and cultivate 2413 02:10:53.640 --> 02:10:56.119 the things you care about, do good when you can, 2414 02:10:57.039 --> 02:10:58.640 and give a shit about the people who give a 2415 02:10:58.640 --> 02:11:01.960 shit about you. Thank you for ten rock hard years, 2416 02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:06.520 co chairman, and thank you for truth a mania. Best 2417 02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:14.239 regards Ben Broler, And with a highly concerning note, we 2418 02:11:14.319 --> 02:11:18.000 turn it over and you over to Gabe, who's still walking, 2419 02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:22.279 who's still battling, Just like a certain podcast, I know 2420 02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:24.960 we'll see you next time. Well, fans, we told you 2421 02:11:25.600 --> 02:11:29.159 he would survive. We told you he lived. If you've 2422 02:11:29.199 --> 02:11:33.039 been following us throughout TLFX, you know that there's been 2423 02:11:33.119 --> 02:11:35.439 challenges for one of the great Solar System members there 2424 02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:39.399 has ever been in one, Gabe who we were proud 2425 02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.920 to share the details of a GoFundMe and some of 2426 02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:44.560 the things he went through with open heart surgery. And 2427 02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:46.800 as we embark on a new year and put the 2428 02:11:46.800 --> 02:11:48.880 first decade of LAPS behind us and look forward to 2429 02:11:48.880 --> 02:11:52.000 the next, it's a very good thing, I would submit, 2430 02:11:52.039 --> 02:11:53.920 and I'm sure the boss would agree that we still 2431 02:11:53.920 --> 02:11:57.319 have Gabe in our corner and he's back. Well, I'm 2432 02:11:57.319 --> 02:11:58.640 not sure if he's on his feet or not. He's 2433 02:11:58.680 --> 02:12:01.359 probably sitting down now I am. 2434 02:12:01.479 --> 02:12:08.479 I am sitting now. Sure. Look, it's it's true. I 2435 02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:14.560 was almost compromised to a permanent endow. I was hoping 2436 02:12:14.600 --> 02:12:17.560 that Jack would pick up on that one. The rumors 2437 02:12:17.560 --> 02:12:19.399 of my death have been greatly exaggerated. 2438 02:12:20.399 --> 02:12:22.159 You've heard from Gabe over the years, one of the 2439 02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:24.039 earliest supporters of the show, one of the first to 2440 02:12:24.039 --> 02:12:24.399 come to the. 2441 02:12:24.399 --> 02:12:26.119 Table and say, hey, I really take what you guys 2442 02:12:26.119 --> 02:12:28.800 are doing. How about some some sponsorship, just all kinds 2443 02:12:28.800 --> 02:12:30.600 of stuff like that. You know him of course from 2444 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:33.920 the Whole Ballgame podcast. That is kind of a bit 2445 02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:36.039 of offspring from what we've been doing all this time. 2446 02:12:36.560 --> 02:12:42.279 And ship we're TLF cosplayers. Man, We're a TLF cover band. 2447 02:12:42.520 --> 02:12:45.000 That's what we are. Really honest here. 2448 02:12:45.520 --> 02:12:48.359 Boss, cover band. I like that. 2449 02:12:48.399 --> 02:12:50.680 I don't mind that at all. I mean, listen, the 2450 02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:54.399 more the merrier on that, keep it up. I appreciate 2451 02:12:54.439 --> 02:12:55.199 cover bands. 2452 02:12:55.520 --> 02:12:58.199 How uh, Well, while Gabe is listening, Boss, how great 2453 02:12:58.239 --> 02:12:59.760 is it to hear him back on on the air. 2454 02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:03.279 Oh, it's fantastic. I mean listen, the the the the 2455 02:13:03.319 --> 02:13:06.920 trials and tribulations, the trial of your life in many ways. 2456 02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:11.840 So I mean it's there's nothing better. It's so great 2457 02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:13.520 to be able to hear your voice and have you 2458 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:14.039 back here. 2459 02:13:17.239 --> 02:13:25.479 Thank you. That means a lot, you know. Uh, I 2460 02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:27.199 wrote some notes down because I didn't want to go 2461 02:13:27.239 --> 02:13:32.159 into this blind and babble on for forever and get 2462 02:13:32.399 --> 02:13:35.239 get you guys, you know, kind of an update and 2463 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.520 kind of get you caught up with what my last 2464 02:13:39.439 --> 02:13:43.079 it was. Uh, it was nine weeks on Friday. Since 2465 02:13:44.119 --> 02:13:46.520 you guys are familiar with Christmas vacation, yes, I mean 2466 02:13:46.680 --> 02:13:51.840 we're all Christmas Christmas heads here, So nine weeks ago 2467 02:13:51.880 --> 02:13:56.560 today or well nine weeks ago Friday as we're recording this, 2468 02:13:58.600 --> 02:14:02.399 I was played open like the Griswold family, Turkey on 2469 02:14:02.479 --> 02:14:05.279 a on a surgery on a in an operating room. 2470 02:14:05.359 --> 02:14:08.399 And I'm not exaggerating, Like, guys. 2471 02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:11.560 They break the breastbone, don't they. 2472 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:16.920 They So what they did is they they have this 2473 02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:23.199 device called a ribspreader, And so I still have bruises 2474 02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:28.399 on the bottom of my biggest fat roll, which is 2475 02:14:28.439 --> 02:14:31.119 getting smaller, which is a great side effect of surgery. 2476 02:14:32.479 --> 02:14:36.680 But uh, it's where they anchor the ribspreader, right, So 2477 02:14:37.119 --> 02:14:37.960 they anchor it there. 2478 02:14:38.119 --> 02:14:40.119 That was Owen Heart's nickname, by the way. 2479 02:14:43.520 --> 02:14:49.159 Oh Man, straight to hell, all of us wonderful. And 2480 02:14:49.600 --> 02:14:52.720 they use a what is essentially it's a surgical saw, 2481 02:14:52.760 --> 02:14:56.880 but essentially it's a circular saw, and they, you know, 2482 02:14:56.880 --> 02:14:59.920 they make an incision first with a scalpel down my chest, 2483 02:15:00.079 --> 02:15:03.640 which I have this really wicked ass like fourteen and 2484 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:04.680 a half inch scar. 2485 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:08.119 Right down the center, right down the center. You're gonna 2486 02:15:08.119 --> 02:15:09.840 have to get a scott Steiner tattoo to cover that 2487 02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:13.039 one up. Yeah, or a Lesnar one too, you know, 2488 02:15:13.520 --> 02:15:14.560 sword right. 2489 02:15:15.359 --> 02:15:17.399 No, No, I don't think so. I think I think 2490 02:15:17.439 --> 02:15:21.039 I'll let the scars I'm wearing open, uh you know, 2491 02:15:21.159 --> 02:15:23.199 button up shirts wide open the rest of my life. 2492 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:27.680 I earned it. I support that anyway. So they use 2493 02:15:27.720 --> 02:15:30.359 the scalpel and then they they use a circular saw 2494 02:15:30.359 --> 02:15:35.359 and they directly in half cut the breastbone between the 2495 02:15:35.399 --> 02:15:40.279 two ribs, and then they anchor the ribs spreader. They 2496 02:15:40.279 --> 02:15:44.600 put the the arms of the rib spreader on either 2497 02:15:44.640 --> 02:15:47.199 side of the breastbone, and then they turn a crank. 2498 02:15:49.680 --> 02:15:53.079 Boss thoughts, and I. 2499 02:15:55.960 --> 02:16:01.840 I can't even I mean, listen, it's it's what really 2500 02:16:02.239 --> 02:16:06.439 the problem is is that I'm hearing imaginary sounds in 2501 02:16:06.520 --> 02:16:11.920 my head of what this sounds like spreading of bone 2502 02:16:12.319 --> 02:16:17.000 and flesh, and just like it's just it's just a 2503 02:16:17.079 --> 02:16:19.479 sound that the human ears were not meant to hear. 2504 02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:23.039 Yeah. Yeah, luckily I didn't have to. 2505 02:16:23.560 --> 02:16:26.760 Yeah, no, listen, that's great, but I'm hearing it. I'm 2506 02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:29.039 hearing it now and there's nothing you can do about that. 2507 02:16:29.800 --> 02:16:31.760 Well, if it makes you feel any better. I hear 2508 02:16:31.800 --> 02:16:37.600 the tick of my artificial heart valve constantly all the time. 2509 02:16:38.040 --> 02:16:41.799 It's very very Edgar Allen Poe tell Tale heart sort 2510 02:16:41.799 --> 02:16:45.000 of stuff going on. It's just a I should send 2511 02:16:45.040 --> 02:16:47.319 you guys, just a because my phone picks it up 2512 02:16:47.319 --> 02:16:50.040 really well. Because my breastbone isn't completely healed, so you 2513 02:16:50.040 --> 02:16:53.760 can hear it outside my body in a quiet room. 2514 02:16:53.920 --> 02:16:58.159 It's really really crazy. But yeah, so they did that. 2515 02:16:59.000 --> 02:17:01.879 What I continue to be confounded by and astonished by 2516 02:17:02.120 --> 02:17:05.360 is the the ability of the human body to heal, 2517 02:17:06.040 --> 02:17:10.600 even human bodies that you haven't necessarily taken the best 2518 02:17:10.600 --> 02:17:13.639 care of. Like I said, nine weeks ago, they did 2519 02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:20.799 that to me. Today, I have slight discomfort occasionally, but 2520 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:21.840 I have no pain. 2521 02:17:23.319 --> 02:17:25.280 Unbelievable, it is. 2522 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:26.079 It's nuts. 2523 02:17:26.200 --> 02:17:28.399 We've exchanged texts, but his first time I've heard your voice, 2524 02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:31.239 Ince went down. I honestly expected kind of like a lethargic, 2525 02:17:31.920 --> 02:17:34.000 you know what I mean, kind of like a voice 2526 02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:36.239 that still spoke, because I know you were probably barely 2527 02:17:36.280 --> 02:17:37.559 able to speak in the beginning. Right. 2528 02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:41.159 Oh, yeah, it was man, those first I was in 2529 02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:49.680 the hospital for seven days, and it was especially the 2530 02:17:49.760 --> 02:17:52.920 for like waking up and recovery and then kind of 2531 02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:59.719 transitioning from recovery into the main room. The best indicator 2532 02:17:59.760 --> 02:18:03.319 I have of this is I had very little appetite 2533 02:18:03.319 --> 02:18:06.200 for at least five weeks after surgery. I lost seventy 2534 02:18:06.200 --> 02:18:08.479 five pounds from the day I went into surgery to 2535 02:18:08.600 --> 02:18:13.120 about five weeks out. It's insane. Yeah, it's absolutely nuts. 2536 02:18:13.159 --> 02:18:16.879 I mean I I was eating like six eight hundred 2537 02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:20.799 calories a day. Just Jesus, there's just nothing, like nothing 2538 02:18:20.840 --> 02:18:23.719 sounded good. But I think it was day two or 2539 02:18:23.799 --> 02:18:28.040 day three, I was in my hospital room and my 2540 02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:32.079 wife was there and she was talking to me, and 2541 02:18:32.120 --> 02:18:35.600 there was a little little cup of green jello that 2542 02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:41.360 they had brought me, and I scooped a spoonful of 2543 02:18:41.399 --> 02:18:43.920 the green yellow and fell asleep before it got to 2544 02:18:43.959 --> 02:18:46.959 my mouth. Oh my god, I mean it just like 2545 02:18:47.079 --> 02:18:47.520 I mean. 2546 02:18:47.399 --> 02:18:50.079 This is like straight like Sean Michael's nineteen ninety. 2547 02:18:49.959 --> 02:18:53.760 Five correct, I may as well have been Matt Hardy 2548 02:18:55.399 --> 02:18:58.120 in a diner or Jeff Hardy in the diner in 2549 02:18:58.159 --> 02:19:01.000 North Carolina. It was it was it was like that. 2550 02:19:02.200 --> 02:19:04.200 Just they had me, you know, they had me on 2551 02:19:05.000 --> 02:19:11.360 nerve blockers and you know, pretty serious painkillers and stuff 2552 02:19:11.360 --> 02:19:15.280 for the first week, and then they sent me home 2553 02:19:15.319 --> 02:19:15.879 with some too. 2554 02:19:16.520 --> 02:19:18.479 But I tell the people, if you could gave what 2555 02:19:18.600 --> 02:19:20.239 was the issue that they remedied. 2556 02:19:21.079 --> 02:19:25.040 It's I'll be as brief as I can, but it's 2557 02:19:25.079 --> 02:19:30.040 an absolutely nuts story. So we talked about weight loss. 2558 02:19:30.239 --> 02:19:34.239 I have been a rotund individual for my entire life, 2559 02:19:34.280 --> 02:19:36.440 and I've never I've always kind of battled with it. 2560 02:19:36.520 --> 02:19:40.319 And in February of this year, I went to the 2561 02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:42.600 doctor finally to get it rectified. As you guys know, 2562 02:19:42.680 --> 02:19:48.879 I have a new baby here, twenty month old, little 2563 02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:52.319 piece of heaven, and I just wanted to get it right, 2564 02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:54.040 you know what I mean. Like I was, I was 2565 02:19:54.120 --> 02:19:58.879 pushing towards four hundred and that was scary, and so 2566 02:19:59.520 --> 02:20:01.600 I went to the doctor and we we worked on 2567 02:20:01.639 --> 02:20:04.079 a plan, and they got me on some blood pressure 2568 02:20:04.120 --> 02:20:08.520 medication and and then I started on wigov which is 2569 02:20:08.959 --> 02:20:11.120 you know, one of the famous, you know, weight loss 2570 02:20:11.159 --> 02:20:17.959 drugs that are derived from the diabetes drugs UH. In July, 2571 02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:22.559 I went through two rounds of July. I hit the 2572 02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:25.559 top dose. Wigovy's kind of an incremental dose. You get 2573 02:20:25.639 --> 02:20:28.000 higher and higher and higher. Got to the top dose 2574 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:30.600 in July. Fourth of July weekend, I was sick as 2575 02:20:30.600 --> 02:20:33.920 a dog. Couldn't figure out why. And then three weeks 2576 02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:36.239 later I was even sicker, and I knocked me on 2577 02:20:36.319 --> 02:20:38.840 a commission. For like five days, I was throwing up 2578 02:20:38.840 --> 02:20:41.840 everything that I ate, even stuff that I'd eaten two 2579 02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:45.600 three days ago. To Wogovy does two things. It slows 2580 02:20:45.639 --> 02:20:52.319 down your digestion digestion, and it it regulates your insulin, 2581 02:20:52.559 --> 02:20:55.200 so you you create insulin like a normal human being 2582 02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:58.120 instead of somebody who has absolutely no metabolism. 2583 02:20:58.600 --> 02:20:58.799 Right. 2584 02:20:59.159 --> 02:21:03.319 And so I was at the top dose. My body 2585 02:21:03.399 --> 02:21:06.360 was just not digesting food fast enough, and so I 2586 02:21:06.399 --> 02:21:08.920 was it was making me sick. I didn't know that, 2587 02:21:09.079 --> 02:21:10.520 but I woke up in the middle of the night 2588 02:21:10.719 --> 02:21:17.879 on a Thursday night, and I was just so ill, 2589 02:21:17.920 --> 02:21:19.639 and my wife was like, you have to go. You 2590 02:21:19.719 --> 02:21:23.280 have to fucking go to the er. Stop this. So 2591 02:21:23.319 --> 02:21:25.520 I went to the ar and I told him what 2592 02:21:25.559 --> 02:21:29.120 was wrong, and they said where I was pointing was 2593 02:21:29.200 --> 02:21:32.120 essentially my spleen and that doesn't make any sense. So 2594 02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:37.200 they did a full body scan CTE and found what's 2595 02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:41.840 called an aortic aneurysm and a big motherfucker, a big motherfucker. 2596 02:21:43.159 --> 02:21:47.680 So essentially the high blood likely the high blood pressure 2597 02:21:47.799 --> 02:21:49.360 for as long as I was living with it, I 2598 02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:51.680 mean I was, I was one forty over one ten, 2599 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:53.840 just normal sitting down. 2600 02:21:55.559 --> 02:21:55.680 Uh. 2601 02:21:56.520 --> 02:21:59.840 It just the blood flows through the aorta out of 2602 02:21:59.879 --> 02:22:03.000 the heart at such a pressure that it bulges out. 2603 02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:05.159 And that's what the aneurysm is. It's just a big 2604 02:22:05.200 --> 02:22:07.079 bulge in the the aorda. 2605 02:22:08.520 --> 02:22:12.280 Let's say, aneurysms are fucking scary motherfuckers. There's like, you know, 2606 02:22:13.079 --> 02:22:17.600 there's just no real warning. They just fucking yeah none. 2607 02:22:17.639 --> 02:22:20.440 I mean, John, that's how John Richard died. John Richard 2608 02:22:20.479 --> 02:22:23.280 didn't know there was anything wrong, and he just walked 2609 02:22:23.319 --> 02:22:25.319 on set and it dissected and that was the end 2610 02:22:25.319 --> 02:22:30.280 of it, and mine was. The threshold for surgery is 2611 02:22:32.399 --> 02:22:34.879 three and a half centimeters to four centimeters, and mine 2612 02:22:34.959 --> 02:22:41.159 was five point five. And so they did, honestly, they 2613 02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:44.719 just sent me directly to a cardiothoracic surgeon after I 2614 02:22:44.760 --> 02:22:47.879 went to the ECHA cardiogram, went to the ECHA cardiogram, 2615 02:22:48.200 --> 02:22:50.760 and they found and this is this was the kicker, 2616 02:22:50.799 --> 02:22:53.479 and this is kind of it was a combination of 2617 02:22:53.479 --> 02:22:58.000 the blood pressure in this piece. That that that made 2618 02:22:58.000 --> 02:23:05.319 it made it really an issue, was most people's aortic 2619 02:23:05.399 --> 02:23:09.239 valve in their heart has three little flaps on it 2620 02:23:09.319 --> 02:23:13.680 that open and close, open and close. Mine only had two. 2621 02:23:13.719 --> 02:23:18.000 They call it a bicuspid valve, which is a birth 2622 02:23:18.040 --> 02:23:22.600 effect that's hereditary. And I've had my entire life and 2623 02:23:22.639 --> 02:23:26.920 had absolutely no idea. I'm forty one, and. 2624 02:23:26.399 --> 02:23:28.719 So do all these issues come downstream from that game. 2625 02:23:28.799 --> 02:23:31.159 But it had nothing to do with your dialing it 2626 02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:33.120 in on the weight loss and going hard. 2627 02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:36.319 No, No, the weight loss thing was just just a 2628 02:23:36.360 --> 02:23:38.760 way to get me to the emergency room. Had I 2629 02:23:38.799 --> 02:23:42.040 not had a stomach ache, you know, I'd still you know, 2630 02:23:42.360 --> 02:23:43.479 I wouldn't have had a surgery. 2631 02:23:44.120 --> 02:23:46.920 I have an account of, like you said, the metabolism 2632 02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:48.040 issue with the drugs. 2633 02:23:48.239 --> 02:23:49.120 Yeah, that's amazing. 2634 02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:51.600 I have no reason to get a heart scan, and 2635 02:23:51.639 --> 02:23:55.959 a lot of people don't, but by god, you should 2636 02:23:56.959 --> 02:23:59.239 figure it out. Just something, you know. 2637 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:04.879 Just wellness policy. I mean, look since Eddie, right, I 2638 02:24:04.879 --> 02:24:08.399 mean I haven't heard of many if Eddie like that, 2639 02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:12.719 where you know, there's like this this uh premature sort 2640 02:24:12.760 --> 02:24:16.120 of failure of the heart from these these wrestlers. And 2641 02:24:16.120 --> 02:24:20.159 that's been the huge thing, is like regular cardiogram for 2642 02:24:20.239 --> 02:24:22.239 these guys, and they're much more aware of heart health 2643 02:24:22.280 --> 02:24:24.879 and in early signs. 2644 02:24:26.680 --> 02:24:31.799 Yeah, so you know it. It was it was weird happenstance, 2645 02:24:31.879 --> 02:24:40.399 and and and I ended up at the cardiothoracic surgeon. 2646 02:24:40.479 --> 02:24:42.719 He's like, yeah, you got to have the surgery. That's 2647 02:24:42.879 --> 02:24:44.559 kind of all there is to it. And I was like, 2648 02:24:44.840 --> 02:24:47.000 it's non invasive, right, you can figure that. No, we 2649 02:24:47.079 --> 02:24:50.200 got to crack the open. Yeah, uh, you know. And 2650 02:24:50.280 --> 02:24:52.319 of course then the fear starts and you start to 2651 02:24:52.399 --> 02:24:56.719 like really kind of think about what your life is 2652 02:24:56.799 --> 02:25:01.479 and was and will be, and you know, all of 2653 02:25:01.520 --> 02:25:02.280 the Brett Hart shit. 2654 02:25:03.520 --> 02:25:05.920 Well, I'm not sure when is a good time to 2655 02:25:06.159 --> 02:25:08.559 bring this up, but I suppose it'll probably be here 2656 02:25:08.600 --> 02:25:11.959 because when we heard, we were like, oh, man, like 2657 02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:14.840 you know, sharing the word every time we do a 2658 02:25:14.840 --> 02:25:17.000 podcast that you guys are trying to, you know, raise 2659 02:25:17.040 --> 02:25:20.319 the funds to be able to live somewhat seamlessly on 2660 02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:22.520 the other side from a you know, a stability point 2661 02:25:22.520 --> 02:25:24.600 of view. And I'm sure that was challenging. We'll talk 2662 02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:28.639 about that, but it remains challenging. But we're like, what 2663 02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:30.920 can we do? You know, that's a little something extra. 2664 02:25:31.639 --> 02:25:35.000 What can we do that's a little I don't even 2665 02:25:35.040 --> 02:25:37.159 know how to describe like what came over. 2666 02:25:37.079 --> 02:25:43.280 Us life affirming I would I would go there just no, no, 2667 02:25:43.559 --> 02:25:44.079 don't laugh. 2668 02:25:44.719 --> 02:25:45.479 Well, well go ahead. 2669 02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:47.159 I mean I don't want to characterize it any any 2670 02:25:47.159 --> 02:25:49.200 other way than you would as the person who we 2671 02:25:49.239 --> 02:25:53.479 thought we'd try something for. And man, am I so 2672 02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:55.319 happy that we're able to come back and just talk 2673 02:25:55.360 --> 02:25:57.559 about it. Is like this fun thing as opposed to like, 2674 02:25:58.319 --> 02:26:01.200 you know, a missive that could have been one last one, 2675 02:26:01.319 --> 02:26:03.360 you know, I mean, this is serious surgery, as you know, 2676 02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:05.719 and is anyone who just listened to your description told 2677 02:26:05.760 --> 02:26:07.600 and just go ahead if you wouldn't mind. 2678 02:26:07.559 --> 02:26:16.440 You yeah, so well, it's interesting, right. I. Uh, Jamie 2679 02:26:16.440 --> 02:26:19.799 and I have become as we talked about on the 2680 02:26:19.799 --> 02:26:22.680 show before, Jamie and I have become good friends with 2681 02:26:22.680 --> 02:26:27.360 with Dana Massey, who's Matt Matt Jackson's wife, and she 2682 02:26:27.559 --> 02:26:29.280 came to Chicago, which is about a two and a 2683 02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:31.799 half hour drive for us, for the pay per view 2684 02:26:31.840 --> 02:26:37.239 that was in Chicago. I don't even remember what it 2685 02:26:37.280 --> 02:26:39.399 was because we were only there for about twenty minutes. 2686 02:26:41.360 --> 02:26:43.719 We went and saw her and you know, hung out 2687 02:26:43.719 --> 02:26:50.200 a little bit, and we drove home the next morning, 2688 02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:53.360 which is a Sunday morning, and I suppose I would 2689 02:26:53.360 --> 02:26:57.120 have gotten the mail on Friday or Saturday, but I 2690 02:26:57.120 --> 02:27:01.079 came home to I think in large part thanks to 2691 02:27:02.159 --> 02:27:04.959 Blake reaching out to you guys and you finding a 2692 02:27:06.920 --> 02:27:11.159 sort of place to plant this flag for the first time. 2693 02:27:12.239 --> 02:27:16.000 And uh, there's a bit there's a big, you know, 2694 02:27:16.040 --> 02:27:21.799 sort of FedEx style envelope, and there was a oh god, 2695 02:27:21.840 --> 02:27:22.600 it's right next to me. 2696 02:27:22.639 --> 02:27:23.280 Where is it at? 2697 02:27:23.600 --> 02:27:28.760 It's down here somewhere. I believe it was the January 2698 02:27:28.920 --> 02:27:35.079 nineteen ninety two p W I inside p W Pro 2699 02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:38.719 Wrestling Illustrated. Sorry that all these fucking website pisses me off. 2700 02:27:38.719 --> 02:27:40.520 I always get it mixed up with my It's like 2701 02:27:40.520 --> 02:27:42.959 when you want to say Starcade and you say star 2702 02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:45.799 cast instead because of that big old fat of a goo. 2703 02:27:46.239 --> 02:27:49.360 Fuck you, Connie. Now I'm kidding, you know I love you? 2704 02:27:50.159 --> 02:27:55.399 Where count anyway? 2705 02:27:55.479 --> 02:27:58.079 I claim Connie? Like that. 2706 02:28:00.000 --> 02:28:00.319 Anyway? 2707 02:28:00.680 --> 02:28:03.879 Conn Thompson sounds like someone who works at the church. 2708 02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:07.120 Look here, Gabe, you just don't want to fall out 2709 02:28:07.159 --> 02:28:11.680 of the truck. Okay, whatever did you do? You know we're. 2710 02:28:11.520 --> 02:28:14.559 Involved right now, Gabe, and correct me if I'm wrong 2711 02:28:14.639 --> 02:28:15.879 in some fellow, Yo. 2712 02:28:16.799 --> 02:28:21.920 We are. We are engaging. Hell yeah, hell yeah. 2713 02:28:22.959 --> 02:28:25.079 Let the people know what was in that hot little 2714 02:28:25.120 --> 02:28:26.280 envelope of yours. 2715 02:28:27.239 --> 02:28:31.840 The January nineteen ninety two Pro Wrestling Illustrated with a 2716 02:28:32.120 --> 02:28:34.440 really terrible picture of Rick Flair on the cover. 2717 02:28:35.239 --> 02:28:37.239 It's the haircut Jim hed hair. Yeah. 2718 02:28:37.319 --> 02:28:45.760 Oh god yeah, Spartacus and uh uh what do they 2719 02:28:45.760 --> 02:28:50.200 call those things? Like a little drive? Right? A thumb 2720 02:28:50.280 --> 02:28:50.879 drum drive? 2721 02:28:50.959 --> 02:28:52.040 Yes, flash drive? 2722 02:28:52.360 --> 02:28:56.520 Flash drive? And I'm like, and of course you know 2723 02:28:56.600 --> 02:29:02.479 it says on the on the uh I see this 2724 02:29:02.639 --> 02:29:05.879 from you guys because they see the returner drives. I'm like, 2725 02:29:05.879 --> 02:29:09.719 what the hell could this possibly fucking be? And I 2726 02:29:09.760 --> 02:29:11.520 opened it up, I put it in and say, you know, 2727 02:29:11.600 --> 02:29:13.399 the fire. There's a couple of files on there, but 2728 02:29:13.440 --> 02:29:16.360 the one that's important says listen to this Gabe in 2729 02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:21.559 all cats. I'm like, all right, well I might as well, 2730 02:29:21.600 --> 02:29:24.959 and I sit here at my computer for the next 2731 02:29:25.600 --> 02:29:31.159 two hours and forty five minutes. That's correct, And you 2732 02:29:31.239 --> 02:29:36.040 guys just deep dive this fucking magazine for me, just 2733 02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:43.159 for me. Uh. And my wife went had gone into 2734 02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:44.799 the other room to take a nap, and she didn't 2735 02:29:44.840 --> 02:29:46.600 know what was going on. When she came out, I 2736 02:29:46.680 --> 02:29:55.280 was listening to it and I was crying, and she 2737 02:29:55.520 --> 02:29:58.719 was like, well, what what, What's what's wrong? Why is this? 2738 02:30:00.120 --> 02:30:05.879 And And what it comes down to is there are, uh, 2739 02:30:06.280 --> 02:30:07.959 there are things that I've shared with you guys over 2740 02:30:08.000 --> 02:30:15.120 the years that you know, we've had countless conversations and 2741 02:30:15.159 --> 02:30:18.360 for you to remember little things like this was just 2742 02:30:18.399 --> 02:30:23.840 it was just so life farming, like I said, and encouraging. 2743 02:30:25.120 --> 02:30:28.200 But every year on Christmas, as we mentioned, I'm a 2744 02:30:28.200 --> 02:30:30.200 big Christmas guy and you guys are too. I think 2745 02:30:30.200 --> 02:30:33.000 it's you know, that's that's evident. 2746 02:30:32.920 --> 02:30:36.360 Very much, and we may even overdo it. 2747 02:30:36.360 --> 02:30:37.040 I don't. 2748 02:30:37.040 --> 02:30:37.280 I don't. 2749 02:30:37.639 --> 02:30:43.799 I've never shared that about you're talking about having recorded 2750 02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:46.239 the unwrapping and fucking Santa's Workshop. 2751 02:30:48.799 --> 02:30:53.719 Man, I I listened first thing every morning, you know. Anyway, Uh, 2752 02:30:54.600 --> 02:30:58.000 in my stocking every year would be a p w I, 2753 02:30:58.079 --> 02:31:01.840 a wrestler, and the third one that I can't remember 2754 02:31:01.840 --> 02:31:04.639 off the top of my head, and. 2755 02:31:04.760 --> 02:31:06.879 The wrestling insider right. 2756 02:31:07.719 --> 02:31:11.760 Inside wrestling that's the one. And uh, this was one 2757 02:31:11.799 --> 02:31:13.719 of them at one point for sure, but it was 2758 02:31:14.159 --> 02:31:19.159 I'd always wake up before everybody else would. And the 2759 02:31:19.159 --> 02:31:22.239 only day night of the year that my parents would 2760 02:31:22.319 --> 02:31:25.879 leave the tree lights on would be Christmas Eve. And 2761 02:31:25.959 --> 02:31:29.680 so it's still dark outside and I'm just sitting on 2762 02:31:29.719 --> 02:31:33.159 the couch by the light of the Christmas tree reading 2763 02:31:33.879 --> 02:31:36.479 p w I before my parents wake up, you know, 2764 02:31:36.600 --> 02:31:42.120 including those rankings and all of the bullshit letters, and 2765 02:31:42.120 --> 02:31:44.440 and just thinking like, man, man, I would love to 2766 02:31:44.440 --> 02:31:48.479 see this promotion that I've never heard of. And and 2767 02:31:48.680 --> 02:31:51.840 you guys dove that that magazine and it was just 2768 02:31:52.600 --> 02:31:57.319 I mean, it may be overused on the cast, but 2769 02:31:57.760 --> 02:32:00.399 it was electric, it was electrifying. It was it was 2770 02:32:03.159 --> 02:32:06.600 life affirming, and I can't thank you guys enough for it. 2771 02:32:07.120 --> 02:32:09.319 Well, boss, I know not to speak for you, but 2772 02:32:09.360 --> 02:32:12.399 I mean we've wanted to do something like that for 2773 02:32:12.440 --> 02:32:15.000 a while because you always talk about the rankings pages 2774 02:32:15.159 --> 02:32:18.280 right right right, and it's like we had, we got, 2775 02:32:18.360 --> 02:32:20.360 we gotta hands on copies of these things as time 2776 02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:23.040 goes and it's like, what if we did it this way? 2777 02:32:23.040 --> 02:32:24.799 What if we did a one of one, you know 2778 02:32:25.079 --> 02:32:28.559 kind of thing. And I don't know as much as 2779 02:32:28.760 --> 02:32:30.360 we did it for que at a certain point it 2780 02:32:30.399 --> 02:32:31.040 was like, this. 2781 02:32:31.120 --> 02:32:33.760 Is just fucking fun. Yeah, Oh that's that was the 2782 02:32:33.799 --> 02:32:36.440 thing about it. I mean, yes, I'm I'm glad it 2783 02:32:36.479 --> 02:32:40.200 meant something to you game, but it was just fun selfishly. 2784 02:32:40.760 --> 02:32:43.680 Look, and that's that's the other thing. That's the other thing, right, 2785 02:32:43.799 --> 02:32:45.719 is like I'm listening to this thing and we're going 2786 02:32:45.760 --> 02:32:51.319 through it. I don't remember the last because I don't look, 2787 02:32:52.159 --> 02:32:54.000 and I think I'm not I don't think I'm in 2788 02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:57.000 the minority here. But it's very rare that I watch 2789 02:32:57.079 --> 02:32:59.559 along with anything that you guys do. You know, you 2790 02:32:59.559 --> 02:33:01.360 don't do it ton of watch along as anyway. But 2791 02:33:01.760 --> 02:33:04.000 I've seen these shows so many times that it's just 2792 02:33:04.040 --> 02:33:07.040 like I don't need it I just need them, right 2793 02:33:08.319 --> 02:33:12.319 And this thumbing through it page by page with you 2794 02:33:12.639 --> 02:33:17.280 was the most engaged that I've been with you guys 2795 02:33:17.280 --> 02:33:20.319 for a long period of time, like ever, and it 2796 02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:24.680 was just it was there was a magic about it 2797 02:33:24.680 --> 02:33:26.520 that I can't overstate. 2798 02:33:26.799 --> 02:33:28.920 Well, we lost you know, we lost physical media. We 2799 02:33:29.000 --> 02:33:32.639 lost it along the way right right, And here's a 2800 02:33:32.680 --> 02:33:35.719 way to to give us a reason to rediscover it. 2801 02:33:35.760 --> 02:33:38.000 Because you can pick up as many old pwy's at 2802 02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:40.520 as many yard sales or whatever, or as many vintage 2803 02:33:40.559 --> 02:33:44.440 shops or you know, antique places or wherever you find 2804 02:33:44.440 --> 02:33:47.559 these things as you want, but it's you have to 2805 02:33:48.879 --> 02:33:51.360 you have to share the enthusiasm of holding that in 2806 02:33:51.399 --> 02:33:54.920 your hand with somebody else to really get closer to 2807 02:33:54.920 --> 02:33:56.959 to that moment we had, the moment you had near 2808 02:33:57.000 --> 02:33:57.319 the tree. 2809 02:33:58.840 --> 02:34:04.360 Yes, yeahactly, I can feel like it's crazy to think about, 2810 02:34:04.360 --> 02:34:06.000 but I can close my eyes, I can feel it 2811 02:34:06.040 --> 02:34:07.360 now and right like. 2812 02:34:07.639 --> 02:34:09.520 That's you know, that's what we've been trying to do 2813 02:34:09.639 --> 02:34:11.360 for ten years and trying to do another ten It's like, 2814 02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:14.520 get back to is to let you know, Gabe that 2815 02:34:14.559 --> 02:34:17.719 we were by the tree too, in our own little way, 2816 02:34:18.600 --> 02:34:23.040 and we and there's No, there's no shame in trying 2817 02:34:23.079 --> 02:34:27.280 to go back there. In fact, it's vital. It's vital, 2818 02:34:27.399 --> 02:34:30.159 and well this is great because I haven't had the chance. 2819 02:34:30.200 --> 02:34:30.600 I know you. 2820 02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:35.120 Expressed gratitude that whatever I mean. But that that that 2821 02:34:35.159 --> 02:34:37.479 you actually took it in like that is is exactly 2822 02:34:37.559 --> 02:34:39.879 I think what we were hoping for. So oh for sure, 2823 02:34:40.159 --> 02:34:46.360 like that was you. You you kind of organically took 2824 02:34:46.360 --> 02:34:49.280 it exactly what we were what we were hoping for. 2825 02:34:50.280 --> 02:34:57.399 Well, look, you know, my the soundtrack to my recovery. Unfortunately, 2826 02:34:57.440 --> 02:35:03.559 because I devoured this so quickly. Uh was was ruled 2827 02:35:03.559 --> 02:35:07.040 by the master and ruler of the world, and so 2828 02:35:07.760 --> 02:35:10.280 it was. It was wonderful, don't get me wrong, but 2829 02:35:10.360 --> 02:35:13.319 that was the soundtrack to my recovery. Was was you 2830 02:35:13.319 --> 02:35:16.559 guys going on and on about fucking Vienna sausages every week? 2831 02:35:17.440 --> 02:35:20.040 Jesus Christ, I think he went on, Have you had 2832 02:35:22.239 --> 02:35:22.559 I have? 2833 02:35:22.719 --> 02:35:24.559 Yeah? Yeah, I mean anybody that grew up in the 2834 02:35:24.559 --> 02:35:28.520 Midwest has had them. They did, just they're you know, 2835 02:35:28.559 --> 02:35:30.520 they're not my preferred potted meat. 2836 02:35:34.200 --> 02:35:36.639 Taste. Like we couldn't bring ourselves to try it. 2837 02:35:37.079 --> 02:35:43.479 Uh, Okay, have either of you had, Pete? Yes, it 2838 02:35:43.559 --> 02:35:47.959 tastes nothing like that, but it's the it's the exact 2839 02:35:48.000 --> 02:35:49.559 same consistency. 2840 02:35:49.079 --> 02:35:51.840 Of like, So I guess that I would have guessed 2841 02:35:51.879 --> 02:35:54.879 mom a snappy hot dog. Well, I would have guessed 2842 02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:58.639 like kind of a like honestly to me, it looks 2843 02:35:58.680 --> 02:36:02.120 like a hot dog, just kind of it's it's like 2844 02:36:02.200 --> 02:36:03.959 too soft, like it's MUSHes. 2845 02:36:04.079 --> 02:36:06.760 Correct. Yeah, yeah, there's a little case thing on the outside, 2846 02:36:07.159 --> 02:36:09.920 but you bite into it and just MUSHes. That's why 2847 02:36:09.920 --> 02:36:12.280 most people eat it with crackers because it'll just mush 2848 02:36:12.319 --> 02:36:17.360 on the crackers because it's fucking gross. Yeah. No, not 2849 02:36:17.440 --> 02:36:20.719 a not a great delicacy. But you know, to each 2850 02:36:20.879 --> 02:36:27.120 to each their own. Fuck in West Memphis either you guys, 2851 02:36:27.280 --> 02:36:29.520 we were talking about the tree. Are you guys familiar 2852 02:36:29.559 --> 02:36:34.680 with Simone de Beauvoirs, Sure, okay, one of my favorite 2853 02:36:35.079 --> 02:36:37.680 philosophers of all time. As a matter of fact, I 2854 02:36:37.760 --> 02:36:39.959 used to have a cat named Simon that I named 2855 02:36:40.280 --> 02:36:43.079 He was a boy, but I named him after her. 2856 02:36:43.719 --> 02:36:47.879 She said, what is an adult a child blown up 2857 02:36:47.879 --> 02:36:48.479 by age? 2858 02:36:48.799 --> 02:36:52.520 Yes, that's great and that's correct. 2859 02:36:52.639 --> 02:36:56.280 And I interpret that two ways. I interpret that as 2860 02:36:56.360 --> 02:36:59.399 exactly what it sounds like, like. We hold on to 2861 02:36:59.520 --> 02:37:04.239 it all children, and the faster you acknowledge that, the 2862 02:37:04.280 --> 02:37:06.760 faster you can, you can live your life successfully. 2863 02:37:06.879 --> 02:37:24.000 Yes, the LAPSTNG Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 2864 02:37:24.040 --> 02:37:27.239 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 2865 02:37:27.520 --> 02:37:29.440 Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed 2866 02:37:29.479 --> 02:37:31.479 Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to 2867 02:37:31.520 --> 02:37:34.360 take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote 2868 02:37:34.399 --> 02:37:36.680 for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling 2869 02:37:36.680 --> 02:37:39.559 Podcast of the Year, click on this show's notes, follow 2870 02:37:39.600 --> 02:37:41.000 the link and do the right thing. 2871 02:37:55.440 --> 02:38:00.920 He's The Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and. 2872 02:38:01.399 --> 02:38:01.520 I. 2873 02:38:01.559 --> 02:38:06.319 Also, you can look at it as a little bit 2874 02:38:06.840 --> 02:38:14.440 less bubbly a worldview. We lose our childhood, we lose 2875 02:38:14.879 --> 02:38:19.200 that innocence as we grow. It's blown literally blown up, 2876 02:38:19.840 --> 02:38:23.399 a child, blown up by age. Whether that's what she 2877 02:38:23.479 --> 02:38:25.440 meant or not, I don't know, but I think about 2878 02:38:25.440 --> 02:38:28.319 it a lot, especially when we talk about the shame 2879 02:38:28.399 --> 02:38:31.920 of enjoying professional wrestling and the pain and all of 2880 02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:36.520 that stuff. The reason I think it's it's important to 2881 02:38:36.559 --> 02:38:41.239 talk about now, at least for me, is that, whether 2882 02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:46.399 you want to or not, going through something like this 2883 02:38:46.840 --> 02:38:51.559 gives you a little bit of perspective, and as cliche 2884 02:38:51.639 --> 02:38:53.280 as that sounds, I mean. 2885 02:38:53.200 --> 02:38:55.399 That's that's a huge part of the reason that we 2886 02:38:55.440 --> 02:38:57.600 felt this is how we should start the year, because 2887 02:38:58.079 --> 02:39:02.159 you're you're now coming back to us having come up 2888 02:39:02.159 --> 02:39:05.000 to a line that we all hope no one in 2889 02:39:05.040 --> 02:39:06.360 the Solar System has to walk up to. 2890 02:39:06.520 --> 02:39:10.559 But yeah, but you know, you're so in the inner 2891 02:39:10.600 --> 02:39:13.680 sanctum of what we do, and we know you so 2892 02:39:13.799 --> 02:39:18.040 much more than we do the other Solar System members 2893 02:39:18.079 --> 02:39:19.959 that we're really turning to you for this. So so 2894 02:39:20.000 --> 02:39:21.879 don't hesitate, don't worry about cliches. 2895 02:39:22.399 --> 02:39:35.120 Yeah, it's it's I shame doesn't really doesn't really factor 2896 02:39:35.159 --> 02:39:39.319 in for me much anymore. I think there's there's uh, 2897 02:39:40.280 --> 02:39:42.600 there's always something below the service that's always going to 2898 02:39:42.680 --> 02:39:44.920 be there. It's just it's just kind of inherent and you, 2899 02:39:45.120 --> 02:39:47.799 especially if you've dealt with it for a long enough time, 2900 02:39:48.040 --> 02:39:54.159 it's part of you. But you know this what we're 2901 02:39:54.200 --> 02:39:57.319 doing here, you know, talking about it, what you guys do, 2902 02:39:57.840 --> 02:40:02.680 listening to you guys so masterfully do what you do, 2903 02:40:03.719 --> 02:40:11.000 and then even kind of extracted and blown out into 2904 02:40:11.159 --> 02:40:13.680 you know, at a thirty thousand foot view, the things 2905 02:40:13.719 --> 02:40:17.520 that Blake and I are doing with stupid, silly voices 2906 02:40:17.600 --> 02:40:23.959 and sort of unvarnished bullshit where we don't filter ourselves 2907 02:40:24.000 --> 02:40:26.040 for better or worse. One day we're going to get 2908 02:40:26.079 --> 02:40:31.520 in trouble. But like it, just you have to soak 2909 02:40:31.559 --> 02:40:35.239 in every little piece of everything. And I went back 2910 02:40:35.239 --> 02:40:39.440 to the hospital on Thursday of this week because so 2911 02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:43.239 because I have this mechanical heart valve, my blood has 2912 02:40:43.280 --> 02:40:46.280 to be thin forever. So I'm on blood thinners and 2913 02:40:46.639 --> 02:40:50.639 so it doesn't clot up on the non biological material 2914 02:40:50.760 --> 02:40:53.159 and send a blood clot to my brain and kill me. 2915 02:40:54.760 --> 02:40:57.000 I have to get tested every once in a while, 2916 02:40:57.079 --> 02:40:59.719 and the blood thinner stuff that you take is a 2917 02:40:59.719 --> 02:41:01.920 little finicky and they have to figure out the right 2918 02:41:01.959 --> 02:41:04.200 dosage and all this stuff. And I went two weeks 2919 02:41:04.200 --> 02:41:05.840 in a row and it was too low, which means 2920 02:41:05.920 --> 02:41:08.159 blood was too thick, and so they had to take 2921 02:41:08.200 --> 02:41:11.760 me to the hospital and pump me full of IVY 2922 02:41:11.760 --> 02:41:14.280 blood thinners for three days to get my numbers back right. 2923 02:41:14.559 --> 02:41:19.799 You know. So I was climbing the walls. But uh, 2924 02:41:20.040 --> 02:41:31.120 the point is that it's it's just don't oh oh sorry, 2925 02:41:31.159 --> 02:41:33.079 I knew I was going somewhere with that I watched 2926 02:41:33.079 --> 02:41:35.280 Saturday night's main event in the fucking hospital and the 2927 02:41:35.319 --> 02:41:37.680 nurses were walking in and out. I could not have 2928 02:41:37.760 --> 02:41:38.360 killed less. 2929 02:41:38.520 --> 02:41:38.959 That's it. 2930 02:41:39.600 --> 02:41:43.840 Yeah, it was. You know. I wish they would stop 2931 02:41:43.840 --> 02:41:46.040 with these fucking half measures and just do what they're 2932 02:41:46.040 --> 02:41:49.079 supposed to do on something like this, But you know 2933 02:41:50.399 --> 02:41:52.079 I can beggars and choosers. 2934 02:41:51.680 --> 02:41:54.479 Right, hospital thoughts, Yeah. 2935 02:41:54.319 --> 02:41:57.159 Exactly, for Christ's sake, I did like the bike rack. 2936 02:41:57.200 --> 02:41:59.239 Why couldn't you have the bike rack at ringside too? 2937 02:41:59.360 --> 02:42:02.159 Give me a break, Like we can't see the people's knees. 2938 02:42:02.200 --> 02:42:07.520 This is a problem for us. Yeah, anyway, anyway, that's 2939 02:42:07.559 --> 02:42:10.520 my point is just that let it go, guys, let 2940 02:42:10.520 --> 02:42:14.120 it go. Like if you like something, just enjoy it. 2941 02:42:14.680 --> 02:42:16.719 And and it doesn't mean you have to be loud 2942 02:42:16.719 --> 02:42:22.079 about it. But like nobody, none of it fucking matters, right, 2943 02:42:22.159 --> 02:42:25.360 it's and you know, Blake's taught me a lot in 2944 02:42:25.399 --> 02:42:28.040 this regard, even before all of this shit went down. 2945 02:42:28.079 --> 02:42:32.719 But his go to his mantra is it's fine, and 2946 02:42:32.840 --> 02:42:35.520 it is it always is, even if it's not. 2947 02:42:35.879 --> 02:42:39.319 It's fine, right, even if it's not, the power of 2948 02:42:39.360 --> 02:42:45.719 declaring it so helps, Yeah, to say it's fine. Helps 2949 02:42:45.840 --> 02:42:48.879 even if it's not. 2950 02:42:50.200 --> 02:42:53.440 If I can, before you know, we we wrap and 2951 02:42:53.479 --> 02:42:55.159 I don't want to take up more, too much more 2952 02:42:55.159 --> 02:42:57.600 of your time. We've been going on for half an hour, 2953 02:42:57.680 --> 02:43:01.000 but I want to address solar system, if that's all 2954 02:43:01.040 --> 02:43:01.440 right with you. 2955 02:43:01.600 --> 02:43:03.159 Absolutely. 2956 02:43:08.639 --> 02:43:14.399 The outpouring that I saw from the solar system was 2957 02:43:15.440 --> 02:43:18.479 and I don't use this term lightly. I really thought 2958 02:43:18.479 --> 02:43:24.760 about it. It was debilitating, it was huge, it was swift, 2959 02:43:25.120 --> 02:43:32.120 it was kind, it was overwhelming. Lots of people donated 2960 02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:36.520 names that I recognize. Some are out there. Someone donated anonymously, 2961 02:43:36.600 --> 02:43:41.040 so I'm not going to blow up their spot. Some 2962 02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:44.559 as little as five bucks, but it it doesn't matter. 2963 02:43:44.760 --> 02:43:47.280 It's about the it's about the Hello ship. 2964 02:43:47.920 --> 02:43:50.040 Well some some of them only had seven bucks in 2965 02:43:50.079 --> 02:43:52.120 their pocket, but if you stick with them long enough. 2966 02:43:54.799 --> 02:43:57.120 I did not, unfortunately, get a truck. 2967 02:43:58.760 --> 02:44:01.959 Did I. But before you go on, which I really 2968 02:44:01.959 --> 02:44:04.200 want you to, I wanted to ask when you first 2969 02:44:04.200 --> 02:44:06.879 came out of the Boss, I'll I'll que you up next, 2970 02:44:07.879 --> 02:44:08.879 did it hurt to laugh? 2971 02:44:08.920 --> 02:44:09.319 And like? 2972 02:44:09.399 --> 02:44:12.440 Could you not listen to us? I was? I was thinking, 2973 02:44:12.520 --> 02:44:14.200 we are you actually going to hurt this guy? 2974 02:44:14.159 --> 02:44:14.280 Ye? 2975 02:44:15.040 --> 02:44:20.239 Yes, yes you are. And you did yes, Fox, they 2976 02:44:20.239 --> 02:44:21.719 sent me home, and well, it gave it to me 2977 02:44:21.760 --> 02:44:24.239 to the first day I was. I was there after surgery. 2978 02:44:24.280 --> 02:44:26.840 But I have a heart shaped pillow that's very thick 2979 02:44:26.879 --> 02:44:29.399 and very fluffy, and they pull it full of stuff 2980 02:44:29.920 --> 02:44:32.600 and it was for me to use when I laugh 2981 02:44:32.840 --> 02:44:35.280 or cough or sneeze. I was supposed to hug it 2982 02:44:35.799 --> 02:44:41.879 to protect my breastbone. Oh and most every night in 2983 02:44:41.920 --> 02:44:44.760 the hospital when I had you guys on, because I 2984 02:44:44.799 --> 02:44:48.920 couldn't stand to watch the nineteen inch flat screen television 2985 02:44:48.959 --> 02:44:55.159 in the room without my glasses on. Yes, I laughed 2986 02:44:55.200 --> 02:44:58.159 a lot and hugged that pillow quite a bit. Because 2987 02:44:58.159 --> 02:45:02.440 of your ridict Us College podcast. 2988 02:45:04.159 --> 02:45:06.799 Well, I'm glad you had a way to mitigate the impact. Boss. 2989 02:45:06.840 --> 02:45:07.840 Did you want to say something there? 2990 02:45:07.920 --> 02:45:10.520 Well, yeah, I was actually curious. Did anyone give you 2991 02:45:10.559 --> 02:45:11.920 seven dollars? 2992 02:45:12.360 --> 02:45:15.079 I don't think so. I think I think there was one. 2993 02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:17.440 I think one guy gave three sixteen, which is pretty 2994 02:45:17.479 --> 02:45:18.079 fucking cool. 2995 02:45:18.440 --> 02:45:19.120 Yeah, that's great. 2996 02:45:19.520 --> 02:45:26.280 Yeah, I did want to shout out Dickie, a man 2997 02:45:26.319 --> 02:45:29.520 who I have never even spoken to, who's another you know, 2998 02:45:29.639 --> 02:45:32.799 died in the wool member of the Solar system, and 2999 02:45:34.959 --> 02:45:40.120 we were Yeah, As a matter of fact, Blake and 3000 02:45:40.159 --> 02:45:42.799 I swore vengeance for finding out that he gave that 3001 02:45:43.440 --> 02:45:47.159 fucking branding iron to Brandon from New Jersey, who, by 3002 02:45:47.200 --> 02:45:49.559 the way, is responsible for those drones. 3003 02:45:49.600 --> 02:45:54.440 I've decided, well, it's my understanding that he actually gave 3004 02:45:54.479 --> 02:45:56.719 it to John Pollock, the homie from post wrestling, but 3005 02:45:56.760 --> 02:45:58.799 I could be wrong about that. I think there may 3006 02:45:58.559 --> 02:45:59.520 be Jackson. 3007 02:45:59.239 --> 02:46:04.520 Pollock pretty sure he painted some of the paintings in 3008 02:46:04.559 --> 02:46:07.000 the hotel room or the hospital. 3009 02:46:06.680 --> 02:46:08.559 Room with the browning iron. 3010 02:46:08.639 --> 02:46:14.280 Yes, whoever whoever he gave it to, he won it. 3011 02:46:14.360 --> 02:46:16.360 He didn't take it back to Australia because he didn't 3012 02:46:16.399 --> 02:46:19.479 want to pay for custom yard. I don't blame him there, no, 3013 02:46:19.520 --> 02:46:20.360 I it's no I know. 3014 02:46:20.479 --> 02:46:23.639 I'm the first thing I thought of, like ad Belluh 3015 02:46:24.040 --> 02:46:27.920 he they the fuck is this? 3016 02:46:29.239 --> 02:46:29.879 It's a weapon? 3017 02:46:29.959 --> 02:46:33.280 Sir? Yeah, it's a good point. I guess that's true. 3018 02:46:33.600 --> 02:46:37.600 Ship it for three hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, No, 3019 02:46:37.760 --> 02:46:43.159 I all jokes aside. Like I was, I was astonished 3020 02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:45.799 time and time again by the generosity of people through 3021 02:46:45.799 --> 02:46:50.000 this thing, especially it's such a crap shoot and you 3022 02:46:50.079 --> 02:46:53.559 kinda like the thought went through my head like you 3023 02:46:53.680 --> 02:46:57.000 kind of only get one shot at doing a GoFundMe 3024 02:46:57.040 --> 02:46:57.520 in your life. 3025 02:46:57.559 --> 02:46:58.040 That's true. 3026 02:46:58.200 --> 02:47:00.879 Yeah, you know what I mean, Like it's like it 3027 02:47:00.920 --> 02:47:05.319 hasfe story. Yeah, if you have any shame at all, right, 3028 02:47:05.360 --> 02:47:08.959 And while we talked about losing it in this case, yes, 3029 02:47:09.000 --> 02:47:13.920 I have a fair amount of shame. So so I 3030 02:47:14.000 --> 02:47:15.799 went back and forth a lot about whether or not 3031 02:47:15.799 --> 02:47:17.920 to even do this. But like again we're back to 3032 02:47:17.959 --> 02:47:20.840 this life affirming thing where it's like, holy shit, the 3033 02:47:20.879 --> 02:47:26.319 generosity of people is just astonishing. People complete strangers, people 3034 02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:29.319 from the podcast who listen to the same podcast as you, 3035 02:47:29.479 --> 02:47:33.120 giving you two hundred three hundred, four hundred five hundred dollars. 3036 02:47:33.760 --> 02:47:39.559 And it's like that is that doesn't make any logical sense. 3037 02:47:40.360 --> 02:47:44.520 But what connects us is so much stronger than what 3038 02:47:44.600 --> 02:47:50.079 divides us. And today right now, fucking especially that shit 3039 02:47:50.200 --> 02:47:51.040 we got to hold onto. 3040 02:47:51.399 --> 02:47:56.000 Yeah, well I just think I mean ten, well, twelve 3041 02:47:56.079 --> 02:48:00.239 years ago, twenty years ago, it's not really not really 3042 02:48:00.280 --> 02:48:04.399 an option available to people to build a community around 3043 02:48:04.440 --> 02:48:07.559 something called a podcast such that they consider you, you know, 3044 02:48:07.639 --> 02:48:11.280 brothers and sisters in arms, not just fellow spectators. You know. 3045 02:48:11.879 --> 02:48:16.319 It's just it's a new I think it's an underappreciated 3046 02:48:16.399 --> 02:48:19.479 part of what podcasting is and it's unique to podcasting. 3047 02:48:19.520 --> 02:48:23.879 Well, I'm saying this what podcasting can be. That's right, correct, Yes, 3048 02:48:24.280 --> 02:48:27.719 thank you for that. What it strives, I think, what 3049 02:48:27.799 --> 02:48:30.120 it strives to what everyone kind of strives to want. 3050 02:48:30.440 --> 02:48:33.280 That's that's the testament. That's the testament to to why 3051 02:48:33.520 --> 02:48:36.399 we why we would bother doing as much as we do, 3052 02:48:37.079 --> 02:48:40.000 because like we just keep going and people keep showing 3053 02:48:40.000 --> 02:48:41.000 that actually. 3054 02:48:42.680 --> 02:48:43.040 Matters. 3055 02:48:44.200 --> 02:48:46.920 I guess you can say it matters. Yeah, it matters, 3056 02:48:46.920 --> 02:48:49.280 and it matters in as much as to me, it 3057 02:48:49.280 --> 02:48:51.559 doesn't matter until it's made manifest in the real world. 3058 02:48:51.559 --> 02:48:53.399 And this is real. This is real support. This is 3059 02:48:53.440 --> 02:48:57.120 not people pretending to support you because they want to 3060 02:48:57.120 --> 02:48:59.239 be part of a crew or correct. 3061 02:48:59.600 --> 02:49:02.200 Right, when you're talking about cash. 3062 02:49:02.319 --> 02:49:05.040 There's in the United States of America. I mean, until 3063 02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:07.440 there's money exchange, no one believes anything. 3064 02:49:08.120 --> 02:49:20.479 Yeah, it's we we joke about fellowship, right, but the 3065 02:49:20.479 --> 02:49:23.680 reality is I I think back on on our dinner 3066 02:49:23.719 --> 02:49:29.280 in Philadelphia quite a bit, just for the uninitiated or unaware, 3067 02:49:30.239 --> 02:49:33.520 Blake and I, you guys have heard us, you know, 3068 02:49:33.600 --> 02:49:37.159 on the show before talking about our podcast we wanted 3069 02:49:37.159 --> 02:49:40.000 to advertise with with the Boys here and try to 3070 02:49:40.000 --> 02:49:42.680 get the name out on the podcast. And we knew 3071 02:49:42.719 --> 02:49:44.159 we were all going to be in Philly together, and 3072 02:49:44.159 --> 02:49:47.639 so we invited Jack and JP and we went into 3073 02:49:47.639 --> 02:49:50.239 some steakhouse. It's fantastic. 3074 02:49:50.239 --> 02:49:53.399 It's the best stake I've ever heard some steakhouse. 3075 02:49:54.159 --> 02:49:59.280 Yeah, look, I wasn't going to go there, but it 3076 02:49:59.360 --> 02:50:03.200 wasn't wasn't an inexpensive a fellowship. 3077 02:50:02.879 --> 02:50:05.719 Especially especially when you order the Butcher's cut with no 3078 02:50:05.799 --> 02:50:08.879 price on a menu. They just represent that such a 3079 02:50:08.920 --> 02:50:10.719 thing exists. Verbally, I'm just glad. 3080 02:50:10.760 --> 02:50:15.440 I'm just glad that we all we all felt for that, right. 3081 02:50:15.639 --> 02:50:17.879 But yeah, it was just like we got them and 3082 02:50:17.920 --> 02:50:20.000 we kind of like looked at each other. My favorite 3083 02:50:20.040 --> 02:50:23.319 part of the evening, however, was when Jack and JP arrived. 3084 02:50:24.280 --> 02:50:26.959 So Blake and I are there and we're just wearing 3085 02:50:26.959 --> 02:50:32.719 shirts and jeans, right. The bouncer threatened to not let 3086 02:50:32.799 --> 02:50:36.479 Jack and JP in because they were wearing sweatpants. To the. 3087 02:50:39.079 --> 02:50:40.000 No, it was it was just me. 3088 02:50:40.079 --> 02:50:42.120 I had the ath Leisure, I had the Vioris on 3089 02:50:42.520 --> 02:50:44.920 you know, which, Yes, I could have bought a twenty 3090 02:50:44.920 --> 02:50:46.120 dollars pair of chinos that would have. 3091 02:50:46.120 --> 02:50:49.760 Been like way less expensive. That's what hilarious anyway. 3092 02:50:49.600 --> 02:50:51.719 And and Jaff walks in and he's like, they're not 3093 02:50:51.719 --> 02:50:53.040 gonna let us in, and I was like, what do 3094 02:50:53.040 --> 02:50:55.120 you mean? And he said he just told me I 3095 02:50:55.159 --> 02:50:57.159 couldn't come in. And I was like, well, we're already in, 3096 02:50:57.200 --> 02:50:58.319 so let's walk to the table. 3097 02:51:00.879 --> 02:51:04.159 And he just looked at me like he was watching 3098 02:51:04.600 --> 02:51:07.319 a ship take off that had his wife on it 3099 02:51:07.360 --> 02:51:11.239 and he knew he was never gonna get to it. 3100 02:51:11.239 --> 02:51:13.799 It's like, okay, here, here's what I'll do. You say 3101 02:51:13.840 --> 02:51:16.159 I can't get into the dress code. Okay, buddy, thanks 3102 02:51:16.200 --> 02:51:17.319 a lot. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 3103 02:51:17.319 --> 02:51:19.120 go I remember this now. I'm gonna go talk to 3104 02:51:19.159 --> 02:51:21.079 them about it because they're waiting on me. I got people, 3105 02:51:21.079 --> 02:51:23.200 they're waiting on me, and then by go talk to 3106 02:51:23.239 --> 02:51:24.760 them about it. What I mean is I'm going to 3107 02:51:24.799 --> 02:51:26.479 walk up to them and then follow them into the 3108 02:51:26.479 --> 02:51:31.079 dining room. Correct, And I'm again, and you, my friend, 3109 02:51:31.479 --> 02:51:35.440 won't do a goddamn thing about it. That's exactly what happened. 3110 02:51:36.719 --> 02:51:44.399 So you know, uh, eight later, that's. 3111 02:51:44.200 --> 02:51:46.079 More of a burn's cut than a Butcher's cut. 3112 02:51:46.639 --> 02:51:55.479 Yeah, I think about that night a lot, not because 3113 02:51:55.520 --> 02:51:59.879 the steak was so good, but because the the com 3114 02:52:00.040 --> 02:52:02.399 and he was was incredible and we had such a 3115 02:52:02.399 --> 02:52:06.159 good time and we laughed and we it was it 3116 02:52:06.239 --> 02:52:13.840 was just great. And and that's uh, that's the relationship 3117 02:52:13.840 --> 02:52:17.959 that you guys foster with your people and we are 3118 02:52:18.120 --> 02:52:24.040 their people. Everybody listening, that's I think what will continue 3119 02:52:24.079 --> 02:52:27.479 to find it and be responsible for for tlf's continued 3120 02:52:27.479 --> 02:52:33.799 success and dominance. Good hearts. Unlike me, and it's been, 3121 02:52:36.559 --> 02:52:39.120 it's been here it is again so life affirming to 3122 02:52:39.280 --> 02:52:41.600 be a small part of what you have all created 3123 02:52:41.639 --> 02:52:46.079 for us. And it's really important what you do, not 3124 02:52:46.239 --> 02:52:53.559 because uh, you've helped me and my family get through 3125 02:52:54.120 --> 02:52:57.719 what is the yeah you said it at the top, 3126 02:52:57.799 --> 02:53:02.600 the trial of our lives thus far, but that but 3127 02:53:02.680 --> 02:53:07.639 that it's not unlike everything else around, what it is 3128 02:53:07.639 --> 02:53:11.799 that you do, it's not fake, right, and and that's 3129 02:53:12.200 --> 02:53:15.319 that's a thing. That's a real fucking thing. Guys. 3130 02:53:15.479 --> 02:53:18.840 Well toast to you, Gabe. And the bottom line here 3131 02:53:19.639 --> 02:53:22.719 to me at least, is that we make a podcast 3132 02:53:23.120 --> 02:53:26.479 and we tried to think about people who we'd like 3133 02:53:27.280 --> 02:53:30.559 to share company with. Around wrestling that we talk about 3134 02:53:30.559 --> 02:53:32.040 it all the time. We just didn't have access to 3135 02:53:32.079 --> 02:53:34.360 in our immediate lives. We just you know, we didn't 3136 02:53:34.360 --> 02:53:36.239 have a lot of wrestling fans around us growing up. 3137 02:53:36.239 --> 02:53:38.280 There were some, but they were fair weather. They would 3138 02:53:38.280 --> 02:53:41.440 never understand why we'd spend the hours we spend not 3139 02:53:41.479 --> 02:53:46.840 only watching, but then dissecting, joking, meming, just creating these 3140 02:53:47.040 --> 02:53:51.360 these infinite halls of mirrors, of references and this impossible 3141 02:53:51.479 --> 02:53:56.239 to penetrate series of inside jokes and everything everything it is. 3142 02:53:56.479 --> 02:54:01.159 And just by doing that, if after ten years it 3143 02:54:01.200 --> 02:54:04.440 can create a vibe, for lack of a better term, 3144 02:54:04.479 --> 02:54:06.920 that that helps you a little bit and helps others. 3145 02:54:07.079 --> 02:54:08.959 And that's all we have to do is just be 3146 02:54:09.079 --> 02:54:12.799 true to yeah, right, how how much goddamn fun we 3147 02:54:12.799 --> 02:54:16.600 can have with this stuff. Then sign me up for 3148 02:54:16.600 --> 02:54:18.680 another ten years and. 3149 02:54:18.440 --> 02:54:21.920 Basically do what we've been doing since college. You know, 3150 02:54:22.000 --> 02:54:24.799 on our own what it is. 3151 02:54:24.959 --> 02:54:27.360 You're stuck with me forever. As long as you guys 3152 02:54:27.399 --> 02:54:30.520 are even remotely public figures, you're just screwed. 3153 02:54:31.559 --> 02:54:33.799 The point is it just blossoms. It blossoms. You don't 3154 02:54:33.799 --> 02:54:35.159 have to just sit down and stay. We're gonna make 3155 02:54:35.200 --> 02:54:37.639 a podcast, it's gonna mean something to people. No, you 3156 02:54:37.760 --> 02:54:40.719 just fucking do it. I mean that's the thing too, 3157 02:54:40.840 --> 02:54:43.920 like that that was never that was never an intention, 3158 02:54:44.639 --> 02:54:47.920 never we sought out to do. It's like you know, 3159 02:54:48.000 --> 02:54:52.360 I always I always think about, you know, the one 3160 02:54:52.399 --> 02:54:57.680 email that that always has stuck in my mind and 3161 02:54:57.760 --> 02:55:00.559 I apologize. I don't remember the gentleman's name, but the 3162 02:55:00.600 --> 02:55:04.239 guy who got in the car accident, and you know, 3163 02:55:04.559 --> 02:55:07.360 like that that always sticks because that was to me, 3164 02:55:07.479 --> 02:55:09.319 that was something like I was like, holy shit, Like 3165 02:55:11.719 --> 02:55:17.040 I never I never would have thought that number one, 3166 02:55:17.280 --> 02:55:22.399 we would be that to somebody. And then in this case, 3167 02:55:23.719 --> 02:55:26.360 I never would have thought that we would have had 3168 02:55:27.360 --> 02:55:32.319 the you know, would have built a community that would 3169 02:55:32.399 --> 02:55:37.079 be willing to help. That's right, a stranger, a stranger, 3170 02:55:37.600 --> 02:55:40.239 Like that's fucking Christmas right there. 3171 02:55:42.399 --> 02:55:47.479 Oh man, uh yeah, yeah, you know, next time and 3172 02:55:47.680 --> 02:55:52.920 next time there's a big wrestling event in h south 3173 02:55:54.040 --> 02:55:56.360 Southeast Missouri, we should all meet up and go to 3174 02:55:56.440 --> 02:56:02.799 Lambert's gonna throw me home home with a throat rolled baby. 3175 02:56:04.360 --> 02:56:09.680 I uh. I when I was god well before any 3176 02:56:09.719 --> 02:56:12.920 of this bullshit, like two thousand and nine ten, I 3177 02:56:13.000 --> 02:56:16.639 was working in Memphis, but my my ex was in Chicago. 3178 02:56:16.760 --> 02:56:19.000 So I was driving back and forth to Memphis every 3179 02:56:19.000 --> 02:56:24.959 two weeks, and I'd go basically right through Sykeston, uh, 3180 02:56:25.399 --> 02:56:28.280 every two weeks. And and on that drive down, you 3181 02:56:28.360 --> 02:56:30.479 bet your ass, I went to the Lamberts. 3182 02:56:30.680 --> 02:56:34.680 Wow, it's great to show us the ways. Yeah, talk 3183 02:56:34.719 --> 02:56:40.159 about the show me State, show me them fucking Airborne 3184 02:56:40.239 --> 02:56:41.799 more like to state. 3185 02:56:42.120 --> 02:56:44.520 We can just we can just take a three a 3186 02:56:44.559 --> 02:56:46.879 quick three hour drive down to West Memphis too, and 3187 02:56:47.879 --> 02:56:49.440 go see the sights. 3188 02:56:51.159 --> 02:56:53.239 Let's go to Saint Mary's Cathedral and see if they 3189 02:56:53.239 --> 02:56:59.399 got me Viennas and stock Well, no, I guess we 3190 02:56:59.479 --> 02:57:04.920 already got the ball of water too. You know, I 3191 02:57:04.920 --> 02:57:08.959 gotta tell you something. So actually today yeah, all right, 3192 02:57:09.040 --> 02:57:13.799 so today today, you know, I I I had my 3193 02:57:13.799 --> 02:57:16.879 my my daughter was that was in had a competition, 3194 02:57:17.399 --> 02:57:19.239 and so I was there and I said, you know what, 3195 02:57:19.280 --> 02:57:23.680 I was thirsty and I didn't have my water bottle. 3196 02:57:24.200 --> 02:57:32.680 So I actually went out. I was like, I got 3197 02:57:32.639 --> 02:57:33.120 a ball water. 3198 02:57:35.319 --> 02:57:38.120 That's the that's the anthem for t l f x 3199 02:57:38.319 --> 02:57:41.280 X the next ten years. Everybody in our in the 3200 02:57:41.319 --> 02:57:43.040 sound of our voice, you go and order a water 3201 02:57:43.079 --> 02:57:48.399 in public, You order a ball of water. It's a 3202 02:57:48.440 --> 02:57:49.079 great idea. 3203 02:57:53.159 --> 02:57:56.879 The ball of water conversation leads me to just one 3204 02:57:56.959 --> 02:57:59.399 question that I'll leave you guys with. And maybe you 3205 02:57:59.399 --> 02:58:01.520 guys are going to bound upon this elsewhere. Maybe you 3206 02:58:01.559 --> 02:58:07.719 already have. We uh, we got the Terry Funk retrospective, right, 3207 02:58:08.120 --> 02:58:10.239 and that was what like twenty five parts? 3208 02:58:12.319 --> 02:58:17.440 And then I can't even answer that. Twenty five hours 3209 02:58:17.479 --> 02:58:20.200 at least on a twenty five parts or twenty five hours, there's. 3210 02:58:20.079 --> 02:58:22.719 A whole hell of a lot. And then we got 3211 02:58:22.760 --> 02:58:26.559 we got SID and and I remember I remember tweets. 3212 02:58:26.639 --> 02:58:29.840 I believe it was tweets or certainly misses from Jack 3213 02:58:29.879 --> 02:58:32.639 going like, you know, I don't know that anybody else 3214 02:58:32.719 --> 02:58:35.959 is going to warrant quite as much, quite as much 3215 02:58:36.559 --> 02:58:39.159 delving into the past as Terry did. But you know, 3216 02:58:39.200 --> 02:58:43.399 we'll see how things go. We got like at least 3217 02:58:43.479 --> 02:58:50.239 thirty hours of SID, right, Like, have you just blocked 3218 02:58:50.280 --> 02:58:55.000 out all of the year? Whenever Flair dies? That is 3219 02:58:55.159 --> 02:58:57.680 going to be once a week you're gonna get six 3220 02:58:57.719 --> 02:58:59.360 and a half hours over lair. 3221 02:59:01.200 --> 02:59:03.440 I don't know, boss, I think we better check our 3222 02:59:03.440 --> 02:59:04.680 short term disability leave. 3223 02:59:08.319 --> 02:59:10.600 I mean, you know, it's funny. There was prep at 3224 02:59:10.639 --> 02:59:12.479 one point and when he was really sick and then 3225 02:59:12.959 --> 02:59:15.000 but it's a you know that was back then. It's 3226 02:59:15.000 --> 02:59:16.520 a whole different fucking ball game. 3227 02:59:16.559 --> 02:59:18.760 Now it is the whole it is. It's the whole 3228 02:59:18.760 --> 02:59:19.120 ball game. 3229 02:59:19.959 --> 02:59:21.079 Damn, it's the whole ball game. 3230 02:59:21.879 --> 02:59:23.840 It's a great question, Gabe, and I've been lying if 3231 02:59:23.840 --> 02:59:26.280 I you know, as always it's like. 3232 02:59:26.840 --> 02:59:28.440 Wait, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. 3233 02:59:28.520 --> 02:59:31.360 No, no, I don't know. Yeah no, it's always like oh, 3234 02:59:31.440 --> 02:59:33.799 you guys, like it's taking so long, and then like 3235 02:59:34.200 --> 02:59:35.760 you can do another one. 3236 02:59:35.920 --> 02:59:40.319 Yeah, right, no, right, it's so Look, you know what 3237 02:59:40.920 --> 02:59:42.799 the funny thing Blake and I were talking about the 3238 02:59:42.840 --> 02:59:48.159 other day, like the how thorough and how deeply researched 3239 02:59:48.239 --> 02:59:53.079 all of this ship is is so daunting that early 3240 02:59:53.159 --> 02:59:55.760 on when we were starting this baseball thing, it was like, well, 3241 02:59:55.760 --> 02:59:57.879 I'll do you know, I'll jump into the you know, 3242 02:59:57.879 --> 03:00:01.159 I have a history, I can do the No, we 3243 03:00:01.200 --> 03:00:03.040 just want we watched the baseball games and we do 3244 03:00:03.079 --> 03:00:06.200 stupid voices that we just we can't. There's no fucking way, 3245 03:00:06.319 --> 03:00:07.600 there's no we can't do it. 3246 03:00:07.719 --> 03:00:07.920 Yep. 3247 03:00:08.239 --> 03:00:12.799 It's it's unbelievable. The dedication and the sort of commitment. 3248 03:00:13.319 --> 03:00:16.200 I think that's the word that you have to take 3249 03:00:16.399 --> 03:00:18.680 to do something like this, and I think you guys 3250 03:00:18.680 --> 03:00:21.840 mentioned it earlier. It's it's not about doing something that 3251 03:00:21.879 --> 03:00:24.639 other people are going to go that shit's amazing. It's 3252 03:00:24.680 --> 03:00:29.159 about doing shit that you guys like and like attracts 3253 03:00:29.280 --> 03:00:32.520 like right like people. People see right through bullshit and 3254 03:00:32.559 --> 03:00:36.239 there is no bullshit outside from all the bullshit. 3255 03:00:36.200 --> 03:00:38.959 And that's that's t LFX. Like we told ourselves at 3256 03:00:38.959 --> 03:00:41.360 the beginning, as we have always joked about, Boss, We're 3257 03:00:41.399 --> 03:00:42.639 not doing this for you out there. 3258 03:00:42.639 --> 03:00:43.600 We're doing this for us. 3259 03:00:43.639 --> 03:00:45.079 And if you want to and if you want to 3260 03:00:45.079 --> 03:00:47.280 come along for the ride, that's fine, but don't expect 3261 03:00:47.360 --> 03:00:49.959 to have any role beyond that in what we decide 3262 03:00:49.959 --> 03:00:52.440 to do. And it turns out by doing it for us, 3263 03:00:52.719 --> 03:00:55.840 we also end up doing it for them. Damn right. 3264 03:00:56.360 --> 03:00:58.920 It's a beautiful thing and Gage is a testament to it. 3265 03:00:58.959 --> 03:01:02.559 Gage, It's it's a shocking thing to know. And this 3266 03:01:02.639 --> 03:01:04.280 I think this is the first thing I ever said 3267 03:01:04.319 --> 03:01:07.799 to you guys when I met you Jack for lunch 3268 03:01:08.280 --> 03:01:13.120 in Boston. Oh yeah, cream clam chowder. Uh at what 3269 03:01:13.159 --> 03:01:16.319 was the name of the Ale House Union Oyster House Union, 3270 03:01:16.360 --> 03:01:19.159 Oyster House. We got we got clam showder I told 3271 03:01:19.200 --> 03:01:22.879 you right then and there. The reason that this means 3272 03:01:22.920 --> 03:01:24.920 so much to me and I want it is because 3273 03:01:25.440 --> 03:01:28.200 you and Jack, you and JP are me and my 3274 03:01:28.319 --> 03:01:30.760 best friend from high school, my wrestling friend from high school. 3275 03:01:30.840 --> 03:01:33.280 We talk to each other the exact same way we 3276 03:01:33.360 --> 03:01:38.760 know each other. It's it's just, you know, we aren't 3277 03:01:38.799 --> 03:01:41.600 as different as we like to believe. We are us 3278 03:01:41.799 --> 03:01:46.479 University and and that's how you guys, And I'm I'm 3279 03:01:46.600 --> 03:01:51.120 just really really, I'm really fucking thankful for you, guys. 3280 03:01:51.959 --> 03:01:53.600 Let's get it. Well, we're thankful for you. That's what 3281 03:01:53.799 --> 03:01:56.600 That's what it's about. We're all lapsed. That's all it is. 3282 03:01:57.040 --> 03:01:59.920 It is and long made continue. Happy New Year, Gay, 3283 03:02:00.159 --> 03:02:02.159 We're very glad that twenty twenty five will have you 3284 03:02:02.200 --> 03:02:02.440 in it. 3285 03:02:03.079 --> 03:02:07.879 Let all the acquaintance be forgotten. Bitches A city. 3286 03:02:07.959 --> 03:02:11.600 Preceding announcement as a t J DeSantis production, its contents 3287 03:02:11.639 --> 03:02:13.360 is intended for private use only