Speaker 1: What's up, video gamers. You are listening to the Games
Speaker 1: for After Dark podcast episode one, houndle plus six. My
Speaker 1: name is more saying, I'm your host, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by Jean Luke Psyche who's on some sort of podcast
Speaker 1: appearance streak. At this point, I think you're the You're
Speaker 1: on a streak, mate, hows it feel?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Honored? Honored to s sound like it. I'm very I'm
Speaker 3: very tired. I just woke up.
Speaker 2: I'm wakey, sleepy head.
Speaker 1: That voice is, of course, the dulcet tones of Michael P.
Speaker 1: High Am the peace popetually late.
Speaker 2: Aye, that's facts, that's facts.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: I was getting I was getting breakfast earlier, and I
Speaker 2: was I was eating. I was eating. Oh yo, this
Speaker 2: is what you do. You get a sausage mcgriddle and
Speaker 2: you put the hash brown inside that ship and hell
Speaker 2: at once dog, that ship is hidden. But also it
Speaker 2: got me late because I was I was eating kitchen
Speaker 2: on the damn this is good. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm forgetting something. Check slack. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, we're doing the podcast.
Speaker 1: And making her triumphant return. Is the one and only
Speaker 1: Lucy James Games.
Speaker 4: I'm back.
Speaker 1: There's a voice. I haven't heard that voice in eighty
Speaker 1: four Missed You.
Speaker 4: It's like six weeks or something, which like a very
Speaker 4: like an age in podcast non appearances.
Speaker 3: I think one hundred was the last one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So you did the smart thing where you
Speaker 1: went on a break and was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be on a break, fully, whereas I went on a
Speaker 1: break and I was like, except for the podcast, I was.
Speaker 4: On a break, but I absolutely got roped into stuff
Speaker 4: was away.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was. Well, it reached the point where
Speaker 1: I I'm sure, I know it's the same for you,
Speaker 1: but like I was on a break and then I
Speaker 1: did so much work that when I came back, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to go on a break again
Speaker 1: because I worked through most of that break.
Speaker 4: But we go we're going on holiday, Yeah we are.
Speaker 4: We're going for you, me, Cardi and Crooper. We're going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have a nice little time over there.
Speaker 1: Be good.
Speaker 4: What's popping in Brighton And we're going to the Toy
Speaker 4: the Toy Museum. We're gonna go. They have a lot
Speaker 4: of barcades, so a lot of bars, big and it's
Speaker 4: obviously next to the beach. And we just got his dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just got on Airbnb. We've got board games
Speaker 1: and we're going to fill that Airbnb with Fox and
Speaker 1: I'll be.
Speaker 2: Sick in Brighton. You love to see what what FC do?
Speaker 2: They rock in Brighton?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is it Arsenal? Is it A? I don't man, you
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: I think they probably have their own right, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I don't think they have any Premiership teams.
Speaker 1: If Simon card is listening to this, they're probably He's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be big mad. But I think it's I
Speaker 1: think Rep Leicester. Wait, Brighton and Brighton and Hove Albion
Speaker 1: f C.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of words.
Speaker 3: Then we've missed you.
Speaker 1: We've missed you so much, according to Google. Brighton and
Speaker 1: Hove Albion Football Club, commonly referred to simply as Brighton
Speaker 1: Hole Albion, is an English professional football club based in
Speaker 1: the city of Brighton and Hope. They compete in the
Speaker 1: Premier League, the top tier of the English Football League.
Speaker 1: It's good. It looks like they took a huge l recently.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, yeah, yeah, they took a huge
Speaker 1: old recently. They lost too nail On the Saturday the
Speaker 1: seventh of August to get half get half. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck that is, but you hate to see.
Speaker 2: It, fuddy, We'll turn to a footy podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing next on August the twenty first against
Speaker 1: August the fourteenth against Burnley, damn, which is.
Speaker 2: Just another is that another FC?
Speaker 1: I don't know what Burnley is, honestly, you know what
Speaker 1: f C.
Speaker 2: FC also stands for free company.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Free companies are part of.
Speaker 1: May, which brings us nicely onto what we've been playing, doing, seeing, experiencing,
Speaker 1: engaging with. And you know what, because Lucy has been away,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask her to go up first. You know
Speaker 1: the stage I've.
Speaker 4: Been engaging with. So I've recently gotten into the Sopranos
Speaker 4: for the first time, and I've become on it like
Speaker 4: I've never seen it before. I've not had it spoiled.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what the fuss was about, but now
Speaker 4: I understand. So that's like my back burner thing, but
Speaker 4: not necessarily gonna be what I'm talking about today while
Speaker 4: I was gone. It is the time of year where
Speaker 4: I hyper fixate on the sims. I have talked about
Speaker 4: sims on the podcast before, and like Calli and I play,
Speaker 4: and I've got a group chat with Callie and Georgia
Speaker 4: where we're talking about the new SIMS pack yep, because
Speaker 4: it's it's cottage living, which is basically based on the
Speaker 4: Cotswolds in the UK, and it is my favorite SIMS
Speaker 4: pack in actual years. It is incredible. You can get
Speaker 4: chickens and cows and I have a little farm and
Speaker 4: live off the grid. It's just very very cute, and
Speaker 4: I love that. But the main thing, the main thing,
Speaker 4: and I'm ashamed it has taken me so long to
Speaker 4: being friends with all of you. Final Fantasy fourteen ziv.
Speaker 4: I finally downloaded it.
Speaker 2: You love to see it.
Speaker 4: So last Friday we had a recharge day at work,
Speaker 4: so we weren't we weren't reworking, and I was just like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm just gonna do it. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna bite the bullet. I'm gonna download it. I beat
Speaker 4: the first boss, which is the Final Fantasy fourteen launcher,
Speaker 4: because holy shit, square next to the one you play
Speaker 4: their game. But then I got in and I honestly
Speaker 4: didn't find it as overwhelming as I feared that I would.
Speaker 4: I remember trying to play it in like when it
Speaker 4: first came out, when it first came to PlayStation four.
Speaker 4: I remember downloading it and playing it then and I
Speaker 4: was like, just I had no clue what I was doing,
Speaker 4: and so I kind of went in. I watched. I
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't watch a sort of like Beginner's Guide
Speaker 4: until actually I was thinking I was waiting on another
Speaker 4: password reset email and I decided to read one, which
Speaker 4: gave me like a little kind of bit of understanding
Speaker 4: about what I was doing. And then I so I
Speaker 4: picked well first when I'm doing the trial, So I
Speaker 4: don't have Bunny Lady, which I really wanted, but I have.
Speaker 4: I have gone for cat Lady. Yes, who is called?
Speaker 4: Is it Lucia Lucia Jams? I just couldn't think of
Speaker 4: a name.
Speaker 2: Yo, you can do a lot worse, trust me.
Speaker 4: I saw your threat the other day, like incredible Final
Speaker 4: Fantasy fourteens. I think my favorite one is still I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a Destiny tun name. But someone was John Fortnite Kennedy,
Speaker 4: which is but yeah, I started playing and playing as
Speaker 4: an Arcanist. All right, Arconist, I have my little creature.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah you have to. You got the bunky the carbon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got my car buncle and I'm level
Speaker 4: eleven right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 4: So I mean do you all does everyone start in
Speaker 4: like the same location or is it.
Speaker 2: There's there's three there's three starting locations. It just depends
Speaker 2: on what initial class you pick. But all roads lead
Speaker 2: to the same story.
Speaker 4: Okay, because I'm now in Summerfold.
Speaker 2: You're in Limbs, so you're in You're in Ligma low Mensa. Yoh,
Speaker 2: that's that's my place, man, That's where all the evens go.
Speaker 1: Did you say Leigma?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Anyways, carry on.
Speaker 4: It's like I found that place just impenetrable. At the beginning,
Speaker 4: I was like, I know I need to go here,
Speaker 4: but I can't figure out how to get that. But
Speaker 4: then it's a mess. And then I unlocked all of
Speaker 4: the this through these crystals that let you sort of right, yeah,
Speaker 4: unlocked all of those, and now I feel like to
Speaker 4: get But then also it really sparked something in me.
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm currently staying at my mom's and I've
Speaker 4: got my tablet here, and I downloaded Final Fantasy twelve
Speaker 4: onto like I am. However, many hundreds of miles away,
Speaker 4: I downloaded Final Fantasy twelve onto a box that is
Speaker 4: in the south of London that I can now play
Speaker 4: through a tablet and a controller in the northeast of England,
Speaker 4: which is amazing. Yeah, it had it like it reminded
Speaker 4: me a bit of twelve, so I was like, let's
Speaker 4: go back in.
Speaker 1: It's not or fourteen was aza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there there is a there's an Evilise, Yeah,
Speaker 2: parallel Dalmasca is a version of Dalmasca called Dalmasca is
Speaker 2: in the World of.
Speaker 1: Four because the Vieira in like the rabbit people at
Speaker 1: the Vieria, right, so they come from twelve and the
Speaker 1: other Evilise games, I guess. So yeah, I get like
Speaker 1: the way I kind of obviously. I've also I've been
Speaker 1: playing the game on and off.
Speaker 4: Because he was streaming it the other day. Right, so
Speaker 4: what are you up to?
Speaker 1: I am I'm in. I'm i am still working my
Speaker 1: way through a realm Reborn. I'm still in the starting
Speaker 1: area ish slowly make him my way through it and
Speaker 1: making my way through in front of point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's still the frustrating thing about it for me
Speaker 1: is I almost got to the good bit, which is
Speaker 1: the first expansion and then my whole, my whole thing
Speaker 1: happened with my character just vanishing into oblivion as if
Speaker 1: someone snatched Tuckis I go up and just deleted his ass.
Speaker 1: So I had to create a new Tugis Figo. So
Speaker 1: now I'm going through it. But yeah, I was doing
Speaker 1: it on stream, like I just hopped on and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm just gonna treat it
Speaker 1: like and like I'm just chatting, like talking to the
Speaker 1: folks in the chat and then in the background, I'll
Speaker 1: be playing Final Fantasy. And it was It was good fun.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I do have many
Speaker 1: many questions about it though, first being like, so we're
Speaker 1: we're on the free version. There are limitations to like
Speaker 1: your friends list, right, because I remember because I was
Speaker 1: trying to add Lucy and it was just like not
Speaker 1: finding anyone. How do you add someone in this game?
Speaker 1: Do you all have to be on a paid one?
Speaker 1: Because my younger brother actually started and he's been trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and he seems to think that
Speaker 1: one person in your party needs to have a paid
Speaker 1: version and then that person can invite other people on
Speaker 1: free versions to them.
Speaker 3: Let me, there's no way that's how that actually works.
Speaker 3: That can't be You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't start parties, I think when you're on the
Speaker 2: free trial, But I don't know if there's any limitations
Speaker 2: on getting friend requests.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can only carry nine hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: nine gil as well, which I person. Every time I
Speaker 4: like am getting near that, I just go to the
Speaker 4: market and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, see I realized that, and I just like,
Speaker 1: I fast travel everywhere now because it costs money to
Speaker 1: use the ether, right, so I'm just like bouncing everywhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can have up to three hundred thousand, girl.
Speaker 4: Apparently I can mine taps out at nine ninety nine.
Speaker 2: And ah damn, that sounds like you problem. You can
Speaker 2: get a bigger wallet your brokies, Yeah, you can't. You
Speaker 2: can't get a friend request.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. That wack as fuck.
Speaker 2: That's so absolutely that's I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: That's kind of fucked up.
Speaker 1: And the weird thing is like it just acts like
Speaker 1: no one exists. So it wasn't like, oh, here's Lucy,
Speaker 1: you can't add her because you're on a free version.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, she doesn't exist. Damn.
Speaker 2: It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Like you don't you cannot make any social connections
Speaker 1: until you pay ten dollars or whatever.
Speaker 2: This is. This is a commentary society as a whole.
Speaker 4: This is what Hideo Kajima is fighting against.
Speaker 1: Yeah, marand strand the game exactly. But yeah, so that
Speaker 1: is one limitation I immediately found. But I mean, like
Speaker 1: I'm not super. The reason I wanted to do it
Speaker 1: is because like it would have been fun to like
Speaker 1: jump in with other other people who are going through
Speaker 1: the same you know, phase of the game, and just
Speaker 1: like pull each other through. But you know, it's not
Speaker 1: a major deal. Since I'm detached from a lot of
Speaker 1: what's happening, I'm skipping most of the dialogue, and this
Speaker 1: time around, I'm skipping all the side quests.
Speaker 5: Because there's no reason to do side started to do.
Speaker 4: I've heard from you.
Speaker 2: All the born is like yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. I mean, my og Turkeys Fuegos
Speaker 1: did everything like max that ship out like.
Speaker 3: You kind of had to. I feel like, at least
Speaker 3: because like they didn't rebound, like they've recently rebalanced it,
Speaker 3: so you don't need to do it because I when
Speaker 3: I first started, I felt like I had to like
Speaker 3: grind out a couple of side quests a little more,
Speaker 3: or like grind enemies. Not the case now it feels
Speaker 3: like so thin.
Speaker 4: There was only one that I felt like I had to,
Speaker 4: and I mean it was very early on like level five,
Speaker 4: and it is basically a tutorial that teaches you how
Speaker 4: to get clothes. But it was like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 4: need to all be level five clothes and armor to
Speaker 4: come talk to me. And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: don't have any of that school classes. Do I have
Speaker 4: to do the like the Arcanist school.
Speaker 2: Thing, like you don't have to? Well you it's like
Speaker 2: a thousand percent recommended Yeah, that's it's it's an easy
Speaker 2: way to level, but also the very important skills and
Speaker 2: abilities are locked behind doing your class quests.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm doing I'm doing the Archer stuff with
Speaker 1: that absolutely salty archer who hates me constantly. I forgot
Speaker 1: his name, but he's just like the biggest hater, Like
Speaker 1: he would be invited to Dave Chappelle's Player Haters Ball
Speaker 1: because every time I got anywhere out of Bowl and Arrow,
Speaker 1: he's like, Fuck this guy, why are you, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I am like, like I said, I'm enjoying this part
Speaker 1: of the game. I am. I was saying this on
Speaker 1: my stream, but like I keep I was explained my
Speaker 1: history with that game and how many times or the
Speaker 1: third time I'm going through a lot of this content,
Speaker 1: and people are like, why you keep playing this? Why
Speaker 1: do you keep coming back to this? And I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: any game that the mention of make that can make
Speaker 1: Michael Hym cry on on site, I need to give
Speaker 1: it a shot. Yeah, But then like I'm desperate to
Speaker 1: get to the bit where the good shit happens, like
Speaker 1: the and and that seems to be the first expansion,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm very slowly working my way through it.
Speaker 1: My other questions are, my character looks like ass.
Speaker 4: In all your mind, looks very cute.
Speaker 1: Like my Physically, my character is cool because he's one
Speaker 1: of those dragon lads. He's read he looks like a Tucky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks like a Tucky's way, but everything he wears
Speaker 1: looks yeah dog.
Speaker 2: The the outfits early the early level outfits are like
Speaker 2: raggedy shit dog. Also don't be classes, but also like
Speaker 2: it's it's tough in the streets. You don't get the
Speaker 2: you don't get access to like decent like some of
Speaker 2: the some of like the level of thirty and forty
Speaker 2: armors actually look pretty cool. But then you start to
Speaker 2: open up like a lot more options for customization at
Speaker 2: level fifty. Yeah, okay, because that's when you get like
Speaker 2: access to like the a lot of the different a
Speaker 2: lot of different clothes that you can just glamor or
Speaker 2: you can just cast glamor onto your shitty looking armor
Speaker 2: and then it look cool because I'll have cool jacket,
Speaker 2: I got a nice skirt. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In my hair, myke takis has got no drip's anti drip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, depressing. Everyone's got to go through it, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've involved in there a lot of time. Like
Speaker 3: you go to the there's like fan sites where people
Speaker 3: like do their own like fashion, like like ah, you're
Speaker 3: trying to look like a professional, Like here's the outfit
Speaker 3: you want to get, and like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: like because I'm like yeah, like I'm I'm doing the
Speaker 3: culinary job and I'm like i want to I want
Speaker 3: to fucking look good, and I'm like thirty, but all
Speaker 3: the good ships like level sixty and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna look like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, there peep the Peep the fashion show from
Speaker 2: Extra Life twenty nineteen. You could see us, see what
Speaker 2: you see what you can do with hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So Lucy, are you like, how do you do
Speaker 2: you feel like you have a grasp of like what
Speaker 2: you should be doing? Yeah, because that's the most that's
Speaker 2: the most important thing I think.
Speaker 4: For There's only really been a couple of times where
Speaker 4: I've not and it was mostly just because I wasn't
Speaker 4: familiar with the layout and I didn't realize. I mean,
Speaker 4: first of all, I mean we how to call yesterday
Speaker 4: a lot of us and I was explaining that I
Speaker 4: accidentally set the I'm playing on PS five accident set
Speaker 4: the PlayStation controls the hard even to be the PC one.
Speaker 4: And because the touch the touch pad on the the
Speaker 4: PS five can work as a mouse, so you can
Speaker 4: use the controller as a mouse, which I thought was
Speaker 4: very cool but not practical when you are in the
Speaker 4: middle of combat. Oh yeah, And I accidentally set it
Speaker 4: to that, and I couldn't figure out for the longest time,
Speaker 4: like twenty minutes, how to switch it back. And then
Speaker 4: I kept like not quite being able to figure out
Speaker 4: where stuff was on the map until I realized that
Speaker 4: if you go in the journal, it shows you exactly
Speaker 4: where it is on the map, or even if you
Speaker 4: just like go into the map, it shows you where
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be. And then just you know, after
Speaker 4: a few hours, when I figured out the map a
Speaker 4: little bit more on my head and kind of got
Speaker 4: my bearings. Bit, I'm like just breezing through at the minute.
Speaker 4: But I have come up to my mum's and I
Speaker 4: didn't bring my PlayStation because obviously that thing, how the
Speaker 4: hell are you supposed to try thing? So I'm interested in, like,
Speaker 4: is it a cross account, like if I download it
Speaker 4: on my laptop? Oh okay, oh no.
Speaker 2: So, but the thing is so was another question with
Speaker 2: the free trial, I think you can only access it
Speaker 2: on one platform. Yes, if you want, if you get
Speaker 2: if you have if you subscribe to the game and
Speaker 2: you get like the full version, you need to have
Speaker 2: a copy of the game on the platform as well,
Speaker 2: like I have to buy. I had to buy it
Speaker 2: on PS four even though I already have playing it
Speaker 2: on PC. But I mean it's the same subscription.
Speaker 4: Though, yeah, I could remote play into the PlayStation. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be as good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like you still handle like
Speaker 2: lower level stuff.
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. The other question I guess, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, listen, what kind of like your what's your
Speaker 1: experience with MMOs broadly.
Speaker 4: Mmm, relatively low? Honestly, I get a bit of wow
Speaker 4: as everyone has dipped their toe into wow. I feel
Speaker 4: at some point I played around midst of pander.
Speaker 1: For people like that. I imagine who might be looking
Speaker 1: at it, Like in terms of tips on combat, Michael
Speaker 1: and jel Luke, like is it does it? Obviously? People
Speaker 1: are going to okay, and it looks like you just
Speaker 1: press one, then two, then three, then four and then
Speaker 1: five on on the hot bar, which shit kind of is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but like, how do you where does the
Speaker 1: depth in the combat come from in that game? Like,
Speaker 1: as as new players, relatively speaking for us, what should
Speaker 1: we be thinking about in combat to make the most
Speaker 1: of it and keep that part of the experience engaging.
Speaker 2: Well, I will say that with each class and each
Speaker 2: job in the game, it'll it will ramp up. And
Speaker 2: I think that there's a level of complexity that I
Speaker 2: think most like MMOs and RPGs get to. So for example,
Speaker 2: I got a level seventy boost for Black Mage and
Speaker 2: I jumped into it. I'm like, I have no fucking
Speaker 2: idea what the hell any of this is. But for Ninja, Monk,
Speaker 2: Dark Knight, all the other jobs that I play, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: I know this shit like secondhand. I know all the
Speaker 2: attack rotations, I know the situational like, oh, if I'm
Speaker 2: in this situation, this is how I change up my
Speaker 2: attack rotation. Or if I got cut off in the
Speaker 2: middle of a rotation, this is how I can bounce back.
Speaker 2: I think that's necessary. The simplicity and the early levels
Speaker 2: are necessary for like, it's training you to like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: once you get the sixty, once you get the seventy,
Speaker 2: and you have to handle these boss fights where there's
Speaker 2: so much shit happening in a fight or in a
Speaker 2: dungeon that like understanding how you play your class is
Speaker 2: second nature and you don't have to necessarily. You're not
Speaker 2: thinking about like, oh, how do I play this, It's
Speaker 2: more like, Okay, how am I going to adapt to
Speaker 2: this situation? Or like you know, it's I think the
Speaker 2: early levels of especially in around me Born, I think
Speaker 2: maybe it spends a little too much time with the
Speaker 2: simple aspects of each class, But I think that you
Speaker 2: will think that later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because right now, I'm obviously I've done it a
Speaker 1: couple of times now, so like my attack rotations are,
Speaker 1: I've just set it up, so I just go through
Speaker 1: each ability as I needed to happen, and like by
Speaker 1: the time I reached the end of the hot keys,
Speaker 1: the enemy is usually dead.
Speaker 4: I'm just like what, I've just got carbuncle putting him.
Speaker 1: Work oies carbuncle. But yeah, do you, Lucy, how do
Speaker 1: you foresee your time with this going? Do you do
Speaker 1: you reckon? You're going to stick with it long term?
Speaker 1: Do you want to stick with it?
Speaker 4: I want to have it in the background, like going
Speaker 4: long term, souse. I want to experience those those highs
Speaker 4: that you've all talked about, but annoyingly like bloody by
Speaker 4: the time I can go back to the South. I
Speaker 4: don't know how much trial is. It's a month long
Speaker 4: trial right forever?
Speaker 1: No, it's forever.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, And like I sound fine, Yeah, I got
Speaker 4: I got pinged boys by the NHS to say that
Speaker 4: I came in close contact with someone with COVID and
Speaker 4: my test is next, which is fine. Obviously that's great,
Speaker 4: but like the rules in the UK right now are
Speaker 4: so weird where it's like the government one day says
Speaker 4: make sure that you absolutely self isolate, and then they're
Speaker 4: getting rid of that rule from Monday if you're double jabbed.
Speaker 4: But then they're like, oh, but the NHS is very
Speaker 4: backed up, so maybe don't go out. So I'm just
Speaker 4: going to ride out like the full isolation period. But
Speaker 4: it's like very weird.
Speaker 1: It's so it's we were talking about this earlier. It's
Speaker 1: no wonder that no one takes that shit seriously here
Speaker 1: because the government is like, hey, make sure you isolate,
Speaker 1: but do what you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you download that app which like tells you
Speaker 4: when you come in close contact with people who've had COVID,
Speaker 4: it goes, don't worry. You're under no legal obligation to
Speaker 4: download this app or even abide by it.
Speaker 2: But that's weird. Do you have to take that up
Speaker 2: with like Boris Johnson or something? Do we do we
Speaker 2: have to fight Bojo Bojo the Bozoojo, BoJack Horseman.
Speaker 4: Joe the Clown. Uh No, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just like Mum and I isolating. We're watching, uh,
Speaker 4: watching a lot of property shows and with me playing
Speaker 4: the sims at the same time. It's having It's just
Speaker 4: a lot of inspiration really, so.
Speaker 2: You're prepared when you come back to the bait. Are okay?
Speaker 2: Now I can afford this two million dollar house.
Speaker 4: If not, at least I know how to decorate it
Speaker 4: with things I inevitably will buy from Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 1: What else? Is there anything else that you've been playing experiencing.
Speaker 4: I will I will pass this along because pass because John,
Speaker 4: you've seen the other thing that what I have seen,
Speaker 4: which sounds that's a really weird link.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's like you both witnessed the crime and
Speaker 1: now you're going to this is Russam Luke.
Speaker 3: You say, right, I've seen the crime. That is the
Speaker 3: suicide Squad, which isn't a crime at all. Well, I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess they they're committing crimes. No, well they did
Speaker 3: commit crimes. Actually no, they commit hell of crimes in
Speaker 3: that in that movie. I am curious what you all
Speaker 3: thought of it, those of you have seen it, because
Speaker 3: I fucking loved it.
Speaker 4: Because I was like, oh no, I really really liked it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. It's maybe one of my favorite movies
Speaker 3: I've seen in like a hot minute, Like I absolutely
Speaker 3: adored it, and I think the reason why is because
Speaker 3: it is just unapologetically a dreams Gun movie. First, like,
Speaker 3: as someone who's like familiar with his older work like
Speaker 3: Super and Slithers, I was like, this is just like
Speaker 3: DC just gave no ship and just said told him
Speaker 3: do whatever you want, man, like our our DC universes
Speaker 3: and shatters the last suicide Squad. It's terrible. Just just
Speaker 3: make it whatever you want. And I think that's what
Speaker 3: made me, Like I I liked it more in retrospect,
Speaker 3: like I really like the Guardians movies, but I think
Speaker 3: I like this more than those movies because because I
Speaker 3: think I think for me, those movies still got that
Speaker 3: they got the James Gun brand on them, but I
Speaker 3: and I think they wouldn't. I don't think they would
Speaker 3: work without James Gun, but they kind of got that
Speaker 3: Marvel stank all over them.
Speaker 4: They have the sheen of Ye Disney.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you know, like the villain like
Speaker 3: Rodan from the first one, like anyone to remember Rodan,
Speaker 3: and like you know, just yeah, some of like that
Speaker 3: Marvel stuff that kind of creeps in there because you're like, ah, right,
Speaker 3: this is like that Disney Marvel Sheen where Dan Isn't
Speaker 3: that the villain from from Guardians? That's that's the name.
Speaker 3: That's how much I about him. You've been playing system.
Speaker 1: I was like, how the fuck did the Kaiju roll
Speaker 1: down uppear in that movie? And I did not even
Speaker 1: see him? But yeah, I get what you mean, Ronan
Speaker 1: the Accuser le Pace Lee pace h Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know what movie does have a giant Kaiju
Speaker 3: esque monster and at the end suicide Squad uh uh. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's it's just it's so weird and it's so like,
Speaker 3: it's such a breath of fresh air I feel like
Speaker 3: in the current landscape of comic movies because it's like
Speaker 3: it's unapologetically like I said, it's not apologtically James Gunn,
Speaker 3: which means it's hell of violent. It's got this very bizarre,
Speaker 3: weird sense of humor. It's and it's mostly character driven,
Speaker 3: which is what I really liked about it is it's
Speaker 3: like that movie's best moments are just when the characters
Speaker 3: are just like talking with each other and interacting, and
Speaker 3: it like, you know, fuses with the fight scenes in
Speaker 3: a way that are like clever like something that that's
Speaker 3: kind of a problem with certain like Marvel or big
Speaker 3: budget movies is like a lot of times they like
Speaker 3: do the fight scenes independently from the actual like script writing.
Speaker 3: So it's like, ah, we went and shot this fight scene,
Speaker 3: and then we like went and penned the movie over here,
Speaker 3: and then we found a way to merge the two together,
Speaker 3: and so like that's how you get this weird like
Speaker 3: disconnected where the fight scenes just kind of feel whatever,
Speaker 3: Like they're like, ah, this is a fight scene, versus
Speaker 3: like this movie where where every every fight scene felt
Speaker 3: so it wasn't just a fight scene, but it told
Speaker 3: you something about the characters. Yeah, Like there's this amazing
Speaker 3: scene where Edris Elba's character, who is so good in
Speaker 3: this movie.
Speaker 4: He's really good in this movie.
Speaker 3: I was that he was extremely hot in this movie.
Speaker 4: Is like wow, Lucy James, no, no, sod wow, He's
Speaker 4: when he's good, he's really good. But sometimes he phones
Speaker 4: it the fuck in Like whatever.
Speaker 3: That's start.
Speaker 4: That Star Trek movie he was in was shocking, But
Speaker 4: then like.
Speaker 2: What's the fifth Star Trek?
Speaker 3: Was it the third one? Because I didn't see that
Speaker 3: one so because I don't even remember.
Speaker 4: It was Beyond Day, Beyond Beyond, Yeah, Star Trek Beyond.
Speaker 2: He Wow, he's on.
Speaker 1: I g he's on the film.
Speaker 4: He phoned it in and like I thought, he phoned
Speaker 4: it in a little bit, and like Jungle Book as well,
Speaker 4: and there was something else he was in. I was like,
Speaker 4: come on, but then he kept wow.
Speaker 2: Respects.
Speaker 4: He was so good in this. I thought he was
Speaker 4: so good in.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that TikTok of someone singing a
Speaker 1: Jason Drulo song and it's like only only uh, this
Speaker 1: TikTok is only for Jason would you call it? It's
Speaker 1: like stitch this, but only do the Jason Drulo bit
Speaker 1: and like Jason da waiting for this moment, he just
Speaker 1: goes Jason and then that's it. The other guy sings
Speaker 1: the rest of it and Jason Derula is in the background. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's he's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And other other person I was surprised how
Speaker 3: good was was John Cena, who I think is like
Speaker 3: I'm kind of whatever about kind of whatever about John
Speaker 3: Cena as as those people are as most people are.
Speaker 3: He's fine, but I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: He follows me on Twitter for some reason. Really, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what.
Speaker 3: I can't say anything.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about Johnson might be listening.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've always thought he's kind of whatever and
Speaker 3: all his acting stuff. I'm like, he's fine. I guess
Speaker 3: I don't know, like you know, he's No, He's not
Speaker 3: the Rock, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Interesting you would say that, say that. Did you
Speaker 1: see that tweet from Dave Bautista the other day about
Speaker 1: so like he quote quote tweets it and it's like
Speaker 1: a tweet that's just shitting on a bunch of other
Speaker 1: wrestling actors and it's like, really weird. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find it now. But DA on Twitter is like maximum spicy,
Speaker 1: like he is also homies with jam Yeah he really yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah. I love the fact that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find it. But it's basically like people shipping on The
Speaker 1: Rock and John Cena and saying like they're just bad
Speaker 1: actors or they only do comedy stuff, and Dave Bautista
Speaker 1: is the only w w E wrestler to come out
Speaker 1: and is actually a good actor, and like his Cord
Speaker 1: tweet is basically the equivalent of him quote tweeting it
Speaker 1: with facts and is like holy ship brutal. I think
Speaker 1: he might have deleted it by now.
Speaker 4: But too spicy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I entirely disagree either, Like the
Speaker 1: man is amazing asn't like he's right, Like he's the
Speaker 1: best WW actor that has come out of it.
Speaker 3: I would agree, I would agree blade Runner, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: blade Runner, like he he can, he can do all
Speaker 3: all the different facets in a way.
Speaker 2: We're like, isn't.
Speaker 4: He He's gonna be in June Dune, sorry Dune June.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so here's the tweets someone that
Speaker 1: that that like. I had a bunch of people, including
Speaker 1: w W E on Fox and said, well, Batista is
Speaker 1: the only one that can act. He's actually challenged himself
Speaker 1: in different roles and worked with great directors. The rock
Speaker 1: is a muscled up Tony Robbins. Sina has found a
Speaker 1: good comedy stick that works for him to be fair,
Speaker 1: but not a great actor by any stretch. And then,
Speaker 1: and then, and then Dave Bautista Cord tweeted it with
Speaker 1: tiptoes in and whispers, just dropping this off, not trying
Speaker 1: to stir anything up. Just want to leave this hair
Speaker 1: and be on my way. Carry on. Oh he's like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: you hate to see this, but shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but John Cena is great in it.
Speaker 3: He's great. He's great, and I think they they've found
Speaker 3: the right role where he like plays the right He's
Speaker 3: just awkward enough. There's something about the way he's portrayed
Speaker 3: where he's he's got this like level of awkwardness that
Speaker 3: I think can almost feel like bad acting. But it's
Speaker 3: just like the way his character is and like it
Speaker 3: writes this weird line where like it totally works, and
Speaker 3: I hear it's like it works maybe because it's John
Speaker 3: Cena too as well.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know he's embodying, it seems because he
Speaker 1: plays like a military kind of person, doesn't he He's
Speaker 1: peacemaker yea. And like that character, that character is getting
Speaker 1: his own spin off, John Cena as that character in
Speaker 1: a series I believe on HBO. But like it makes
Speaker 1: sense because in wrestling he played a white rapper for
Speaker 1: a really long time and like it was weird and
Speaker 1: awkward and like really made it work, and then went
Speaker 1: into what like the All American Wrestler where he was
Speaker 1: like very militaristic and and like saluting the flag before
Speaker 1: doing like parle drivers and shit like that. So like
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense that he would now be played Peacemaker,
Speaker 1: who's basically a combination of the those two roles, awkward
Speaker 1: and very militarist.
Speaker 3: So I don't know of a of a spinoff would
Speaker 3: work because I think part of the reason, I mean,
Speaker 3: what else Now it's not out yet, so who knows.
Speaker 3: But I think part of the reason it works is
Speaker 3: because like he's playing that like you know, oh, I
Speaker 3: love freedom and I'm I'm just doing what I think
Speaker 3: is right. And then like you just have Edred's elbow
Speaker 3: just being like, shut the fuck up, dude. So it's
Speaker 3: like it's really good. Their chemistry is a huge part
Speaker 3: of work.
Speaker 1: How is Joel Kineman in it? Because I really like
Speaker 1: Joel Kinnerman.
Speaker 4: I really like I thought it was good.
Speaker 1: But he's he's he's like hit and missing so many things.
Speaker 1: Like there's episodes of keep forgetting what it's called the
Speaker 1: TV show now, the TV show that we didn't breakdowns
Speaker 1: on for many many Yeah, that's the one I keep
Speaker 1: my brain always. Whenever I try and remember the name
Speaker 1: of that show, my brain goes. It's called Binary domain
Speaker 1: and it's not called binary and Harry told me that
Speaker 1: is a different thing. But like he there's episodes of
Speaker 1: that where he's amazing and there's episodes where he's absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where I stand on Joe Kinneman,
Speaker 1: but I think he's a very very handsome man.
Speaker 3: I love uh Rick Flaggan there one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's because he's.
Speaker 3: So unforgettable or so forgettable and that that first uh yea,
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, whatever, Yeah, he works. I think
Speaker 3: mostly because of the like the script takes him in
Speaker 3: a direction where like he starts off very like like generic,
Speaker 3: you know, leader of the squad, like you know, Rick
Speaker 3: flag like whatever, but like they kind of give him,
Speaker 3: uh like a like a motivation to do like that
Speaker 3: I think kind of like humanizes him and makes you
Speaker 3: root for him, and so like you you are invested
Speaker 3: in like him at the end in a way that
Speaker 3: I didn't expect. He's not like the best character in
Speaker 3: the movie, but like by the end, I was like, ah, damn,
Speaker 3: you kind of made me care about Rick flag Ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how is my boy? The one? Nonnie king Shock.
Speaker 3: He's the best, He's the absolute best, everyone's the best,
Speaker 3: but King Shark is he's so good.
Speaker 1: I've read a lot of Suicidis Squad in my time,
Speaker 1: and the King Shark stuff is always the best stuff
Speaker 1: because he's like he's the X factor in any scenario
Speaker 1: where it's like in the middle of a conversation, he'll
Speaker 1: be like, I'm just gonna eat this person and it
Speaker 1: will just gobble down a person and like.
Speaker 3: Yep, there's a lot of that. Yeah, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how he's portrayed. In the comics. He's he's a little
Speaker 3: more like slower in this movie. I guess like he's
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't like talk as much. He's very
Speaker 3: very simple, simple words.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. In the comics, he's he's very much aware
Speaker 1: that he's a shark, so he will he's like constantly
Speaker 1: referring to the fact that he's a shark, and he
Speaker 1: knows that because he's a shark, he's superior to most
Speaker 1: other beings around him, and we'll take advantage of the
Speaker 1: fact that he's a shark. We're very sharp teeth. He's
Speaker 1: not terribly smart, but like he This is my favorite
Speaker 1: scene is when he's like about to start a fight
Speaker 1: and he's just walking towards his enemy and shouting I'm
Speaker 1: a shark, I'm a shark. I'm a fucking shark. And
Speaker 1: it's just like.
Speaker 3: Amazing there is there's definitely like that kind of energy
Speaker 3: where there is like they'll be fighting a bunch of
Speaker 3: people and you know, everyone's just like trying to shoot
Speaker 3: everyone with guns and he's just running straight at them,
Speaker 3: just hands out and it's just like, what are you
Speaker 3: going to do? He's freaking king shark and he's coming
Speaker 3: right at you like you are going to die, and
Speaker 3: it is It's exactly what you want out of that character.
Speaker 1: It's very very cute, fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's terrible. Yeah, no, I think they nailed every character.
Speaker 3: Harley Quinn's great as Margot Robbie nails it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an amazing throwback to Birds of Prey with
Speaker 4: like in particular fight scene and it's very very well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her fight, her standout fight scene is like they
Speaker 3: turn they turned Harley Quinn into like John Wick in
Speaker 3: that fight scene, Like it's so good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: James Gunn modeled that version of Harleyquin off the ukham
Speaker 1: City version of Harlequin.
Speaker 2: Really shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he likes he likes that version that's a
Speaker 1: good fact. Yeah, Oh that's why I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to go and try see it's out here on like
Speaker 1: The Green Night, which fucking pisses me off, Whereas I'm
Speaker 1: so mad that I can't watch The Green Knight, but
Speaker 1: that is out here. I just need to. I'm still
Speaker 1: very like nervous about going to theaters, even more so
Speaker 1: in this country where everyone like he's got to head
Speaker 1: up their ars and they're just being idiots. So I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I this is the only this is the
Speaker 1: first time I've been like so up for being like
Speaker 1: the all digital future where if they just make everything
Speaker 1: available day one at a higher price, I would pay it,
Speaker 1: because these are the first two movies that have come
Speaker 1: out that have been like, oh those two movies Two
Speaker 1: Sides Word and Green Night, where I've been like I
Speaker 1: would have paid twenty pounds for that. I wouldn't for
Speaker 1: Black Woodow and I still haven't, but like I would
Speaker 1: have paid for those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you not have access to HBO Max. There
Speaker 3: is like the licensing different in the UK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have that hair in the same way.
Speaker 4: It's on Oh wait did it did it ever launch?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Because I mean HBO stuff is on now TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, it's the whole Like movie system
Speaker 1: is different here where I don't know because of the
Speaker 1: size of the country and that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 1: think people are more likely to wait and to release
Speaker 1: their movies then force it through because marketing is so
Speaker 1: North America's center centered. But it is mad that The
Speaker 1: Green Knight, based on you know, Arthurian Legend, which is British,
Speaker 1: is not available in the UK to watch, but it
Speaker 1: is in America. British actor Dev Patel like, come on,
Speaker 1: get get a grip everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really bummed about that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to watch it. It's got like every
Speaker 1: time I see it, because firstly it was sold as
Speaker 1: like this is Dark Soles the movie twenty four and
Speaker 1: in like every poster I see of it, I'm like this,
Speaker 1: I want every single one of the posters because they
Speaker 1: look so good. But I'm hoping there's a scene where
Speaker 1: Dev Patel just furiously rolls through a room full of pots.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's gonna be But yeah, anything else Joan nick
Speaker 1: uh No.
Speaker 3: I downloaded like four indie games on my switch yesterday,
Speaker 3: but I haven't I haven't actually played any of them
Speaker 3: because I got switched again. I got too many dang
Speaker 3: video games going on.
Speaker 2: How's brinks is good?
Speaker 3: She did throw up on the table right here, We're
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure. I mean, so when we
Speaker 3: got her, Jenn and Max were just like, yeah, she
Speaker 3: throws up a lot, that's just a thing. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: we're like, oh, okay, And sure enough, she loves to
Speaker 3: throw up specifically under the bed, which is like cool
Speaker 3: on the carpet, under the bed, the worst, the worst spot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: appreciate that. What is fine, But we're just like, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure what it is, because sometimes
Speaker 3: it seems hairball related. But then yesterday, like literally I
Speaker 3: was just sitting here at my desk and then I
Speaker 3: just turn and I see her just like doing this
Speaker 3: like like muscle spasm wretching, and I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 3: I just like like she started throwing up, and then
Speaker 3: she threw up a little bit, and then she turned
Speaker 3: around and like stuck her head like behind the computer
Speaker 3: to like throw up again. And I was like, absolutely
Speaker 3: had to, like shit, move her on the on the ground.
Speaker 3: And that one seemed like not to get into it, but it
Speaker 3: was like a little more like liquidy yellowy, And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, no, like baby, are you okay? But
Speaker 3: she seems she's doing fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, does she eat quickly?
Speaker 3: No, so actually kind of the opposite. Well, it depends.
Speaker 3: Sometimes she'll just go in there and like scarf it down.
Speaker 3: Other Times she'll take her paw and she'll scoop up
Speaker 3: her food and look it off her paw, lady, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, as so cute. I have a video for
Speaker 3: doing that. I'll I'll send to.
Speaker 1: You if if it brings you any measure of solace.
Speaker 1: Kiki is a big throw up her as well.
Speaker 2: She does the same oka she quicker throw her up.
Speaker 1: She she she's throwing up at least once a day
Speaker 1: with a banter, and she's doing it like purely that
Speaker 1: she's not sick. She'll throw up and then just casually
Speaker 1: walk awayd and be fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like threw up and we're sitting there like,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, you okay, and then she just like loo.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And for me, I think it's because she eats
Speaker 1: too quickly, because Kiki is also like a very like
Speaker 1: fucking she is all about eating constantly. She if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you're eating. She's watching you eat if
Speaker 1: she she can hear her food packet from like two
Speaker 1: floors away, and she's just all about eating. I have
Speaker 1: to when I'm giving her food, I have to trap
Speaker 1: her in a room so I can give the other
Speaker 1: one food first, because because she will eat her mom's
Speaker 1: food before her mom can get to it, so I
Speaker 1: have to like, yeah, I have to like trap her
Speaker 1: in a room, feed the other one, then go into
Speaker 1: that room and feed Kiki. But like because of that,
Speaker 1: she would just eat. She eats super quickly and will
Speaker 1: throw up all the time for fun. But yeah, my Kiki,
Speaker 1: she she doesn't like scoop it. She like picks up
Speaker 1: the food in her mouth and then puts it on
Speaker 1: the floor. So so she takes it out of the
Speaker 1: plate and then puts it on the floor and then
Speaker 1: eats it. I'm like, what are you doing that for
Speaker 1: a little seasoning? Yeah, she like pick a bit up,
Speaker 1: put on the floor, eat it and then pick anop
Speaker 1: it up, put on the floor, look at it for
Speaker 1: a second, eat it, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's cute.
Speaker 4: I remember what I used to do to food when
Speaker 4: I was a kid, Like I would only ever eat
Speaker 4: kit cats. I would bite the chocolate off both like
Speaker 4: both ends, and then I would meticulously take the chocolate
Speaker 4: off every side. I like saying it now I sound
Speaker 4: like a serial killer. No, that is mad behavior, trying
Speaker 4: to connect with your cat man.
Speaker 1: That is when you have food, and also extremely bored,
Speaker 1: because that is when you're a kid.
Speaker 4: I mean they used to, I mean they used to
Speaker 4: think I had OCD as a child because I was
Speaker 4: so meticulous about how I ate. I don't think I do.
Speaker 4: I think I just have very I'm just very anxious,
Speaker 4: and I think it's a child that would manifest. Is
Speaker 4: like taking immense amounts of control over my food. I
Speaker 4: used to eat in like a specific order. I used
Speaker 4: to only eat on one side of my mouth for
Speaker 4: some reason, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I had a phase where, for some reason, when I
Speaker 1: was taking crisps out of a packet, I would try
Speaker 1: not to let my fingers touch the sides of the
Speaker 1: packet when I was trying to get one out, which
Speaker 1: is like again mad behavior. But like I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like operation where like you try and like
Speaker 1: like almost like doing limbo, like trying and pull it
Speaker 1: out without touching, letting your fingers touch the foil on
Speaker 1: the way out.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's that's just like you know, that's I
Speaker 2: feel like everyone does that to some degree. You don't
Speaker 2: want to get you don't get the dust on your
Speaker 2: on your fingers. No, I think I'll have to.
Speaker 1: I think I just created like a minigame because I
Speaker 1: was that bored.
Speaker 2: You create games with your food. Like every time I
Speaker 2: have like a plate of food, it's always like rice
Speaker 2: and then meating vegetables, and I'm like, okay, it has
Speaker 2: to be very like portion wise, so like when I'm done,
Speaker 2: the last bite is perfectly proportioned as well, and I
Speaker 2: would eat from the outside going in. And there's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, always create games with yeah, fucking eat.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Homo ludens. What just again? Could
Speaker 4: you joge to warn us, Homo sapiens, Homo ludens? Because
Speaker 4: people who play.
Speaker 1: People who play with their food the brain. I mean,
Speaker 1: you should always have a gam It's because it's because
Speaker 1: of abandoned, isn't.
Speaker 2: It fucking here?
Speaker 1: Even my favorite thing about it is the amount of
Speaker 1: copy and people are taking right now because it's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's real, it's gonna show up I'm just like podcast man.
Speaker 3: What was it on their website? It was called.
Speaker 2: Like hold on, They're not Silent Hill dot com.
Speaker 3: No, no, it was like this insane. Uh, the real
Speaker 3: time patch, the real time Experience patch has been delayed
Speaker 3: to the technical issues.
Speaker 1: Who the what the what.
Speaker 2: Do you actually publish on this?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 1: I have the app downloaded, and it blows my mind.
Speaker 1: I did the big question of this is the whole
Speaker 1: thing is the most annoying thing that has ever happened
Speaker 1: to video game? I think one of the most annoying things.
Speaker 1: And it's happening at a time where people are more
Speaker 1: ridiculous and more crazy than ever where they will they Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're more bored than ever. So like when I was
Speaker 1: I remember I tweeted a couple of weeks back where
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this. This isn't Kajima because
Speaker 1: it's fully amateur hour and Kajima has got a little
Speaker 1: more talent than that. When he pulls this ship off,
Speaker 1: this wacky shit, he knows what he's doing. This is sounds.
Speaker 1: He doesn't leave trails, no, he just this. This is
Speaker 1: just like making up as you go along and fucking
Speaker 1: up every step of the way. And I was like, also,
Speaker 1: this is this is like really fucking annoying as well,
Speaker 1: So like if he was Kajima was marketing a game,
Speaker 1: it would just piss everyone off. The amount of people
Speaker 1: had replied to me in defense of it and be
Speaker 1: like big mad that I was upset about it. I
Speaker 1: was like, what are you talking? Why are you You
Speaker 1: are ridiculous, You are of your mind? Why are you
Speaker 1: defending this? And why are you so into this thing
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist? And it is genuinely people think that
Speaker 1: it's either Silent Hill, a new Metal Gear, or the
Speaker 1: best game ever. Like the amount of replies that I've
Speaker 1: seen to like the new delay on that patch that
Speaker 1: I like, take your time. We all know this is
Speaker 1: going to be the best video game experience that's been
Speaker 1: ever created. I'm like, based on what? Why is that
Speaker 1: based on? Because what you've had is delays to is
Speaker 1: something that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: That delays for the app for your trailer? Is that
Speaker 3: what it is?
Speaker 1: The big the big question mark is why is Sony
Speaker 1: attached to this? Like why at any point did Sony
Speaker 1: attach themselves to this? Because it's so weird, like they like,
Speaker 1: I bet you there's got to be a reason for it.
Speaker 1: But I bet you the people that Sony are like,
Speaker 1: do not fucking mention us ever again, because we will.
Speaker 1: We will send a fucking astro bought assassin to your house.
Speaker 3: I mean, their their their logo weirdly looks like the
Speaker 3: the like Sony Studios the PlayStation studios logo even as
Speaker 3: like the same font people, which is like more like
Speaker 3: that's not like, that's just weird to me of like
Speaker 3: what do you like? Everything about it screams like like
Speaker 3: we're trying to We're trying to emulate what like a
Speaker 3: professional video game company does, like without any understanding of
Speaker 3: how to actually do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the studio is actually one man and like
Speaker 1: seven farmyard animals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's this might sound really mean, but there's
Speaker 3: like I'm getting like big, like Tommy wisou energy from
Speaker 3: all this.
Speaker 1: No, Tommy released a trailer for his game, for his
Speaker 1: for his movie, for his movie Sorry like he released.
Speaker 1: He released a trailer for The Room, and then he
Speaker 1: released a movie, The Room, And then he put a
Speaker 1: billboards for the movie The Room. True he did, and
Speaker 1: then there was a movie based on the making of.
Speaker 4: So he also magically made six million dollars that no
Speaker 4: one can figure out how he made it to make
Speaker 4: the room in the first place.
Speaker 1: Real talk, though, like Tommy, clearly incapable of making a
Speaker 1: movie a good movie, lagged his way through it. Still though,
Speaker 1: put the movie out and it banged and it succeeded.
Speaker 1: This Hassan carman dude clearly no ability to make a
Speaker 1: game based on what we've seen, blagged his way through
Speaker 1: it and hasn't produced anything. So in the ranking, Tommy,
Speaker 1: what's so number one is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for the guy, but it's also just
Speaker 4: like I don't understand what he's promising or what this
Speaker 4: thing is, and it's it's annoying because it's like everyone
Speaker 4: thinks it's the new consumer thing when it's just I'm so,
Speaker 4: I just want it over what it is.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I've seen scammers and cultists deliver
Speaker 1: their pitch with more certainty and more detail than this
Speaker 1: man has delivered his video game pitch. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Listen, nobody knows what it is, but it's provocative.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's got us talking talking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gone us, Michael, Uh, he's rustled us Michael,
Speaker 5: get us away from here, tell us about or something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: I am on a journey to play every single Final
Speaker 2: Fantasy Hell yeah, God, for some reason I started. I've
Speaker 2: been replaying eight real quick because it's on game Pass
Speaker 2: the remaster, and uh there's let's see. I played Final
Speaker 2: Fantasyes seven, eight and nine and four and six when
Speaker 2: I was very young and then so when I think
Speaker 2: back to those games, I can't really remember what happened
Speaker 2: to them. I remember squall, I remember like, yo, Renaul
Speaker 2: she was she was like she was no, But it's
Speaker 2: deeper than that. Listen. She set the tone for the
Speaker 2: type of girl I'm attracted to. Yeah, I was like
Speaker 2: that way, she's the one, and ever since I just
Speaker 2: realized that I've always been chasing her in my life.
Speaker 2: So shouts out to my partner right now and then.
Speaker 1: No often, but I've not quest this. You don't like
Speaker 1: a teacher with.
Speaker 2: Oh yo yo she Oh my god, yo dog five.
Speaker 2: Fantasy eight is just.
Speaker 1: This is this is this is an interesting this is
Speaker 1: an interesting, potentially weird place we can go. But let's
Speaker 1: go there. Video games, video game characters that may have
Speaker 1: defined your taste in in partners. Yeah, yo, because you've
Speaker 1: said Reno, say what you need to say about christ
Speaker 1: the Queen.
Speaker 2: Like quis uh uh god, she's bad. But like I
Speaker 2: also realized I was, like, damn, I guess there was
Speaker 2: a point when I was into I was into white girls,
Speaker 2: Like damn. Maybe I don't know, because to be honest,
Speaker 2: Renaula looks like she's at least like Asian American.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's Asian.
Speaker 2: I will claim her like we on the behalf of
Speaker 2: Asian Americans, we claim Renolanka.
Speaker 1: As a South Asian American, a South Asian person. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you've done this because it makes.
Speaker 2: Me, oh my god. But anyway, if I'm a fantasy a,
Speaker 2: oh man, it's it's I'm still early into my replay
Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn, everything looks familiar, but I don't.
Speaker 2: It's just a really weird phenomenon. Like I remember blue fields,
Speaker 2: I remember this map, I remember where to go, I
Speaker 2: remember these backgrounds, what places look like. I just don't
Speaker 2: remember what happened. I was like, Damn, Squall was really
Speaker 2: a dickhead.
Speaker 3: Sucks.
Speaker 2: It sucks. And so the thing for me is like
Speaker 2: does he I can't remember if he ever grows up
Speaker 2: like he does.
Speaker 3: But it kind of it kind of and that's what
Speaker 3: frustrated me because I played it for the first time
Speaker 3: this year and I ended up not really like making it.
Speaker 3: And a lot of it was that I found a
Speaker 3: lot of the characterizations to be annoying, like where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I get where they're coming from, Like I get I
Speaker 3: get all these characters, and like, yeah, there are some
Speaker 3: characters that I did really like, but like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like he's that type, he's your the right hand man
Speaker 2: who he's of the Final Fantasy.
Speaker 1: Also this type, he's every other character they tried to
Speaker 1: do like Edgy more grounded, like teen style thing because
Speaker 1: that was what was popular around the time eight was
Speaker 1: coming out. It's very much like the Twilight era of
Speaker 1: characters even though but like Zell is the only one
Speaker 1: who's like old school Final Fantasy where he's still an
Speaker 1: anime archetype. He loves to eat and punching.
Speaker 3: Him and Selfie are like a good I think I
Speaker 3: think they kind of yeah like anime levity to it
Speaker 3: and like but yeah, like squall Man like because like
Speaker 3: half that.
Speaker 2: Game is hot and he's got a sick jacket and
Speaker 2: a sick gun. Blade but sure, you know, like you're
Speaker 2: a douchebag bro.
Speaker 4: But also, David Borianna has played school in Kingdom Hearts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true introduction to him. That's actually a really
Speaker 3: good casting too, to be fair, that's a good choice.
Speaker 3: But like half that game is Squall's inner monologue, and
Speaker 3: it's either him just being like, oh I hate everyone
Speaker 3: and you're like, shut the fuck up, or then like
Speaker 3: later when he like turns around, it's him being like
Speaker 3: he'll be like, oh, fuck you guys, and then he'll
Speaker 3: be like, actually, I really care, but I just don't
Speaker 3: want to say it, and I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: Annoying ship.
Speaker 1: Like the support is good. At least Renault is great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish Renault wouldn't spend so much time
Speaker 1: being hung up on Squall, Like.
Speaker 2: But damn, this is just how life is.
Speaker 1: That's that's life. Yeah, sometimes the dickhead the ship one
Speaker 1: gets all the attention from the hoty, from the baddie.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, damn, like U shit, Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see it all the way through because like I know,
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to. I'm enjoying it though,
Speaker 2: like it's it's really weird, like going back. So I
Speaker 2: was talking about this on the Optional podcast. I shouts
Speaker 2: out to my boy pal, to myle and like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, there's a lot of themes that you just
Speaker 2: don't pick up on when you play games earlier in
Speaker 2: your life. And then so for me, when I played it,
Speaker 2: I was like ten years old, and all the characters
Speaker 2: to me like, oh, they're grown ups. They should have
Speaker 2: they probably have everything figured out. And now I'm thirty,
Speaker 2: my early thirties now and I'm playing this, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: like these motherfuckers is young and like think about bell
Speaker 2: and Bellen Garden and just like I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: like these these characters at a young age are forced
Speaker 2: into a military academy to be elite soldiers. This possibly
Speaker 2: can't blow up in their face haha. And that just
Speaker 2: never occurred to me when I played it. When I
Speaker 2: was SANS, I was like, Oh, cool junction system, Oh
Speaker 2: cool looking characters who were grown ups who do like
Speaker 2: summoned shit all the time, because that game is like
Speaker 2: you just fucking spam summons the whole time. So I
Speaker 2: think I thank the Lord for giving us a three
Speaker 2: times like speed boost to speed through the garden force
Speaker 2: spells that you spam all like ten times during a battle,
Speaker 2: which looked cool, but after one hundred time, you know,
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's there's just a lot of things I'm
Speaker 2: picking up on themes and story bits that just like
Speaker 2: you see with a lot more clarity, because who the
Speaker 2: fuck at ten years old understand.
Speaker 3: Cannot imagine a ten year old ten year old me
Speaker 3: would not.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine a ten year old understanding the fucking
Speaker 2: junction system. But I did, and I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: moll the fuck. Like everyone everyone now is like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, kids these days they play Fortnite, they're so
Speaker 2: good at video games. Like bitch, I was good at
Speaker 2: video games at ten. I figure out the junction.
Speaker 1: You haven't lived until you just fucking grinded the heel spells,
Speaker 1: just storing them up before a boss fight. Fucking draw system.
Speaker 1: Junction system, junction system. Like before we move on, we're
Speaker 1: not getting away from the whole What video game character
Speaker 1: gave you the gave you the hearts back in the day.
Speaker 3: Another one, I'll volunteer, I'll start. I mean, for me,
Speaker 3: it was it was Chia was my first first love.
Speaker 3: That it's it's it's so funny because like when Georgia
Speaker 3: started dating me, she knew, she knew, like Chia was
Speaker 3: my girl. She was like she got like real, like
Speaker 3: all right, I can see what this Chia is all about,
Speaker 3: Like what she got that I don't. She's like, I
Speaker 3: don't get her. I don't like chi A like, don't
Speaker 3: I'll get these annoying She's annoying. She talked about kung Fu,
Speaker 3: and Georgia started.
Speaker 1: Just kicking the ship out of Everyone was right, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh is it both here? Oh yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you played twelve? You must
Speaker 2: have been and you're already a team.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's the same. It taste, tastes keep
Speaker 1: on changing, like it could be someone.
Speaker 4: It was two thousand and six that came out to six,
Speaker 4: I've would have.
Speaker 3: Been like fifteen Bastilla nice sald Republic, like mad in
Speaker 3: love with her Holy ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thinking about like thinking about like video game dudes,
Speaker 2: because I like, there's a point in my life when
Speaker 2: I just played like a lot of shooters and there's
Speaker 2: like all big bad military man and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I really missed Captain Price.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of how I'm playing like countlesstriping,
Speaker 1: just seeing two arms jumping, like, damn, those are some
Speaker 1: nice arms, got veins. I never seen his face or
Speaker 1: his buddy, but damn.
Speaker 2: That's how shallow I think for for dudes the Steiner fro.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, relaxed, Oh my guy, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to find dudes lock from Final fans. Come on,
Speaker 2: I can get that. I can get down some pixels,
Speaker 2: like I'm fine.
Speaker 1: With that Terra to snake easy. I can that that
Speaker 1: is that is a that is a good looking man.
Speaker 1: Fat Joe Valentine was one of mine. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: Joe's got it going on. She knows have to deal
Speaker 1: with some Leon's pretty good as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah Leon and.
Speaker 1: Leon.
Speaker 3: Yeah she has some mad crush on Leon.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if like Jill in any
Speaker 1: way defined like who I look for because she.
Speaker 3: Didn't really have a personality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyone that looks like Jill Valentine, I would
Speaker 1: you look like Joe Valentine? Here here your boy?
Speaker 4: Oh you know?
Speaker 2: For me all too also was eight to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Resident Evil got a lot of got a lot
Speaker 1: of fine ladies, and like.
Speaker 2: There might be Zo tis over the place. But everyone's hot.
Speaker 1: Everyone's hot. Yeah, put some respect on Barry, Yeah, Nemesis,
Speaker 1: look at that lad, Oh babies.
Speaker 2: People into monsters. I respect.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised there hasn't been any like mass effect characters
Speaker 1: or like, oh, I mean.
Speaker 4: It would be Garris for carrying Garris. Yeah, but you
Speaker 4: know that's two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I I think I might have
Speaker 2: moved on to hand Tie by that. Oh fucking I
Speaker 2: think I really really not related to hand Tie. I
Speaker 2: really like Hinata from.
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, Yeah, she was like really sweet. Yeah she
Speaker 1: was she was nice. Oh she likes more yeah crows.
Speaker 3: Because I was like, yeah, I want to girl kick
Speaker 3: my ass.
Speaker 2: I just removed soccer.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you love girls that are like ask kickers,
Speaker 1: don't you interesting? Yeah? I just remember Mark from the
Speaker 1: First Dragon.
Speaker 3: Mine was Alistair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's his voice is wrong in Oh is
Speaker 4: It Color?
Speaker 1: He's wrong in.
Speaker 4: Still Safe.
Speaker 2: There's kind of like Zell. He's kind of like.
Speaker 3: That sweet boys, just an idiot.
Speaker 1: I just remember, like firstly back in the Day Lady
Speaker 1: from Devil Mike cry three. Let's get modern day like
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy seven remake teetha. I'm trying to get to
Speaker 1: John beat my Ass.
Speaker 2: Seven remake Barrett, like when he takes off his his
Speaker 2: song glass when he like, I don't like his sunglasses.
Speaker 2: I think they're like very like, like you need to
Speaker 2: get rid of those sunglasses. It looks like a w
Speaker 2: W wrestler when he takes when he takes him off,
Speaker 2: like his eyes.
Speaker 3: When he's when he's when he's caring for his his daughter's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, that's enough for the first section. You've been
Speaker 1: playing Halo as well, right.
Speaker 2: I say really quickly. I remember why I don't play
Speaker 2: competitive games anymore. Halo is great, but goddamn, do I
Speaker 2: get frustrated. I'm playing a lot of Pokemon Unite, and
Speaker 2: that's also like between Halo and Pokemon Unite, I think
Speaker 2: my blood pressure is back to what it should be,
Speaker 2: like it's normal again because I have low blood pressure,
Speaker 2: so maybe these games are actually helping me in some
Speaker 2: sort of way. But I just get so fucking heated,
Speaker 2: like I'll do okay, but oh god, I just Halo's great.
Speaker 3: I just Halo.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't playing Mass Chief Collection because
Speaker 2: I just want to download it because I like set
Speaker 2: up my Xbox with like my old TV in my room.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I'm gonna play. I want
Speaker 2: to play some Xbox video games like Infinite was the
Speaker 2: beta was Pomb, but I didn't get in it, and
Speaker 2: so I was like, I just want to play MCC
Speaker 2: real quick. And I'm like, I just keep playing. And
Speaker 2: I played for like three hours and like I maybe
Speaker 2: had like twenty percent of time I was having like
Speaker 2: a good time. The other eighty percent, I was just like, man,
Speaker 2: fuck this game, but I'm gonna play another match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you on match.
Speaker 2: I used to be nice. I used to be nice
Speaker 2: in Halo. Halo two and three, I was I was
Speaker 2: nice with it, but I don't know. And then so
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like maybe it's controller. So
Speaker 2: then downloaded on my PC because the game passed, you know,
Speaker 2: I get on my Xbox and get on my PC,
Speaker 2: same subscription. So I'm playing with keyboard and mouse, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a lot better and maybe I'll
Speaker 2: just keep playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had the same thing when I was playing
Speaker 1: Infinite like I can't deal with these days. I think
Speaker 1: I'm more comfortable with games where the time to kill
Speaker 1: is really really really like low like if you one
Speaker 1: shot kills, I'm okay with like stuff like I can't strike.
Speaker 2: It's that valerie.
Speaker 1: That valerie and that kind of stuff I really struggle with,
Speaker 1: Like you've got to shoot through a shield and then
Speaker 1: you gotta go through their health and they can put
Speaker 1: a shield up, and I'm just like kill me. I
Speaker 1: just hate it.
Speaker 2: There's a very specific way to play Halo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you run towards them, hold down the fire button,
Speaker 1: and then when you arrange melee and if they somehow
Speaker 1: get away from you, throw a grenade at the ground
Speaker 1: so it bounces in front of them and then jump.
Speaker 2: Away you And if you have higher ping than them,
Speaker 2: good luck. Good luck, yeah, because they will bail you first.
Speaker 1: Even though they didn't the Infanebato was actually pretty good
Speaker 1: for that, like they it didn't have that vacuum effect
Speaker 1: on the melee where you just need to be somewhere
Speaker 1: near them and it would just like pull you in
Speaker 1: towards them. Now, it's like because I was playing it
Speaker 1: like that and so like I'm out there looking like
Speaker 1: a fucking clown, just melee in the middle, and I
Speaker 1: think it would like draw me in. Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: bots looking at me, like what a fucking idiot and
Speaker 1: just like shooting me. The bots in that game are
Speaker 1: like programmed to be dickheads, like they are. Firstly, you get.
Speaker 4: Tea bag you, they won't tea bag you.
Speaker 1: Some of them will, yeah, some of them apparently will.
Speaker 1: Now they won't apparently, but yeah, like some of those
Speaker 1: bots were ruthless. I was like, holy ship. And then
Speaker 1: so some of them are like walking into a wall
Speaker 1: and shooting throwing grenades at their own feet and you're like,
Speaker 1: what's going on here? But yeah, I played that bit
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of fun, honestly, But beyond that,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not going to really take up any time.
Speaker 1: I'm playing the same things as I was last time
Speaker 1: talking about a fin of Fantasy, playing the Forgotten City
Speaker 1: very slowly because I'm really enjoying that game so so good.
Speaker 1: It's got one of those things where you know in
Speaker 1: a in like Skyrim or Oblivion, where you're playing the
Speaker 1: game you're like, yep, Fantasy, high Fantasy, and then you
Speaker 1: start a quest line, which is like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: very different and very strange, and there's like weird occult
Speaker 1: shit happening here, and the Mark of the all the
Speaker 1: strangers sending you like, oh is it was it? You
Speaker 1: started getting like messages from in Skyrim the Dark Brotherhood stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I got to a bit in the Forgotten City
Speaker 1: where I encountered that kind of thing and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so good.
Speaker 4: I really want to play that after I finished Death Store,
Speaker 4: that's my next.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then I'm playing I'm streaming out all
Speaker 1: wild still and it is phenomenal. It continued to shirt yeah,
Speaker 1: shirt yeah shirt. So I was streaming yesterday and I
Speaker 1: am came and hung out in the in the chat
Speaker 1: and I was like, it was a good time. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Like we we we started streaming.
Speaker 1: I played only like an hour of the game because
Speaker 1: like Joey Noel showed up and she was like, please
Speaker 1: show me the cat and then we played with the
Speaker 1: cat for like forty minutes on stream.
Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, it was over from there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Someone's like I I added the textas speech thing on
Speaker 1: donations for for the thing, and someone like did the
Speaker 1: texta speech for me? And it was like someone typed
Speaker 1: in the words hey, Kiki. I was like, I'll do that,
Speaker 1: and I turned around and did it. And she like
Speaker 1: immediately responded. It was like all over me. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is but yeah, those are those are the games
Speaker 1: that I'm playing, same old, same what. I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: I can finish Death Door and Forgotten City this weekend
Speaker 1: and start something new. I need to finish Mass Fact
Speaker 1: three as well, because I'm supposed to be on a
Speaker 1: podcast about that very soon. But yeah, that's start on that.
Speaker 1: As Michael Hyan would say, yep, We're gonna head over
Speaker 1: to listener questions. If you want to send us a
Speaker 1: listener question, you can email us at after that podcast
Speaker 1: at GameSpot dot com, or join our discord by dming
Speaker 1: me or Lucy and we'll do a quick background check
Speaker 1: on you to make sure you know or wrong, and
Speaker 1: then give you a little invite. First question comes from
Speaker 1: Trusty patch notes. Lucy, can you read that please?
Speaker 4: She said, Crewe. What is a game that you expected
Speaker 4: would be right up your alley but just didn't click
Speaker 4: with you? For example, Enter the Gungeon definitely checks all
Speaker 4: the right boxes for me, but I'm just not having
Speaker 4: fun playing it.
Speaker 1: I have I have one that is going to upset
Speaker 1: at going to be spicy. It is spicy. I've been
Speaker 1: I've made peace with this near Automata. Oh, everyone knows
Speaker 1: the kind of games that I like. That should be
Speaker 1: a game I adore, it should be. There's something about
Speaker 1: it that I just do not find enjoyable to play,
Speaker 1: and I think I think it is the quest design
Speaker 1: kind of, but it's also it's like a little bit. Firstly,
Speaker 1: I think that game has the most phenomenal soundtrack in
Speaker 1: video game history. Like the soundtrack, it's fucking incredible. I
Speaker 1: love the character design like I love to be nine
Speaker 1: s all the characters, yes, Michael. Another one that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember who exactly what it was, may
Speaker 2: I think it might may have been to be No.
Speaker 2: That made me realize that it's my tastes in anime
Speaker 2: girls specifically, is that anime girls with with with gray hair?
Speaker 1: Yep ye.
Speaker 2: For me? I was especially especially if it's like short
Speaker 2: hair anime girl with gray gray white, platinum colored hair. See,
Speaker 2: that's for me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was thinking the same thing most
Speaker 1: of the way that game. I was like, I really
Speaker 1: like the Zeno TV and like she's very attractive as well,
Speaker 1: And then the moment A two showed up, I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck to be I am all about a two yo.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: It must be a thing for me too, because literally
Speaker 3: every custom character I ever make has like white short hair.
Speaker 4: Mine is not mine is not white short hair. Mine
Speaker 4: is like every time I make a custom character, every
Speaker 4: time I make a sim it is always the red hair,
Speaker 4: green eyes that I always go for, and they are
Speaker 4: usually some kind of bullshit stealth archer depending on what
Speaker 4: I'm playing. But yeah, I feel out numbered here with you.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Narro Automata is one game that there's something about the esthetic,
Speaker 1: like the grayness of it, which I understand why it's
Speaker 1: that way, and something about the combat and the quest
Speaker 1: design just didn't click with me in a in a
Speaker 1: really enjoyable way. I think partly it's the it's the
Speaker 1: kind of like the shooty part of it.
Speaker 2: Oh those are that's good.
Speaker 1: No, No, not that part, not the actual like when
Speaker 1: it flips to a bullet hell shooter, the fact that
Speaker 1: you've got the little robot I forgot it's called now Pod. Yeah, Pard,
Speaker 1: I found to be a bit annoying, and like the story,
Speaker 1: the characterization, love everything about it except for the bit
Speaker 1: where I play it, which is like really hard to
Speaker 1: like really reconcile because I want to experience that game again,
Speaker 1: but I know that I don't want to play it.
Speaker 1: So I just listened to the music and look at
Speaker 1: pictures of a two.
Speaker 2: It's good man, So actually bouncing off like tasting characters again.
Speaker 2: This this relates to my answer is Tales of Brasaria. No, No,
Speaker 2: Tales of Bara, Tales of Vesperia. So I got the
Speaker 2: the remaster came out a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I played Tales of Sifonio when
Speaker 2: I was like twelve or whatever, and I thought that
Speaker 2: game was dope. Another game that I don't remember shit
Speaker 2: about because I played it when I was a dumb
Speaker 2: young baby. But like Tales of Espiria, I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: this is I can't believe they're doing a remaster. Yeo,
Speaker 2: this is like one of the best Tail Tail series games.
Speaker 2: And I didn't I don't have that much experience with
Speaker 2: the Tail series other than Simphonia back in the day.
Speaker 2: So I was playing Vesperi and I was like, ah,
Speaker 2: I give it it like ten hours and it just
Speaker 2: wasn't clicking. But Urie is that dude? Is that dude? Fine?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is nice.
Speaker 2: Man, So like he's kind of like my tasting dudes,
Speaker 2: and you know what related to Near, Like I love
Speaker 2: Near Automati, I love Near Replicant. Going back to tasting dudes,
Speaker 2: I actually think O G.
Speaker 1: Dad Near Oh yeah yeah Dad. Weirdly, I like the
Speaker 1: original need more than I like Automata.
Speaker 2: There are yeah, there are weird things there. There are
Speaker 2: things that that Replicant does better than Automata, and like
Speaker 2: vice versa.
Speaker 1: But speaking speaking of tails, we have a preview up
Speaker 1: on YouTube looking for fresh games of Tales of Arise,
Speaker 1: which Max PILMOUTHO took a look at and apparently is
Speaker 1: pretty interesting and good. So if you want to check
Speaker 1: in on that franchise, there you go.
Speaker 2: But as has a platinum haired boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Lucie. Any games that you think that should
Speaker 1: have been up early but weren't.
Speaker 4: Kingdom Hearts three, oh yeah yeah, never finished it, big fact,
Speaker 4: never finished it?
Speaker 3: I feel like finished it?
Speaker 4: Did you finish?
Speaker 1: I know I reviewed it? I finished yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 1: years ago yeaheah yeah. The funny thing is like someone
Speaker 1: reached out to me. I won't say who reached out
Speaker 1: to me to be on a Kingdom Hearts panel to
Speaker 1: be like discuss it, yeah, And my reply to them
Speaker 1: I was like, politely, I think the story is dogshit
Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about it anymore. And
Speaker 1: I said that politely as someone who loves Kingdom Hearts.
Speaker 1: I think that where it is now is absolute dogshit
Speaker 1: and I do don't want anything to do with it,
Speaker 1: and I'll get some hate for it, but I feel
Speaker 1: like the Square Enix storytelling and characterization part of Kingdom
Speaker 1: Hearts has ruined the marts for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I just I just didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I've outgrown Kingdom Hearts in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: It is just a game that you have to put
Speaker 4: a lot of mental effort into, which is weird because
Speaker 4: it's you know, you're hitting, You're playing with Disney characters,
Speaker 4: hitting little squidgy things with giant keys, like it's it's
Speaker 4: a weird It's a weird one because there's still like
Speaker 4: I the first time I played it, you know, I
Speaker 4: was crying at the title screen music, and there's so
Speaker 4: much of it. I absolutely love and King of Hearts
Speaker 4: two will forever be one of my favorite games. But
Speaker 4: like three, there was just maybe it just felt like
Speaker 4: I didn't have the rose tinted glasses, was a bit
Speaker 4: too new and a bit too shiny, and I just
Speaker 4: didn't feel it didn't make me feel like I was
Speaker 4: eleven years old again. And that's not the game's fault.
Speaker 4: That is me just changing who I am as a
Speaker 4: human being. That's mine.
Speaker 1: Look at the growth, Look at the character there, John Nick.
Speaker 3: Probably hollow Night.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Jordan, where are you at? Where's Jordan when
Speaker 2: you need him?
Speaker 3: You got Metroid Vanie, you got Dark Soul's Lore, you
Speaker 3: got beautiful uh two D hand drawn like in theory.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this game is absolutely for me. And
Speaker 3: I just bounced off it so hard. I still want
Speaker 3: to give it like another shot. So like I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm hopeful, I want, I want to love it, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, just something about it didn't. It didn't
Speaker 3: click with me. I don't know if it was just
Speaker 3: the the difficulty or the the how kind of everything,
Speaker 3: because it's so dark and like it's beautiful. But after
Speaker 3: a certain while, I found myself sort of like having
Speaker 3: difficulty telling things apart within what area and.
Speaker 1: The map system is awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like what they're trying to do
Speaker 3: with the map system, where like you intentionally like you
Speaker 3: don't know where you are and you can like get
Speaker 3: an upgrade that does tell you where you are, but
Speaker 3: it takes up a slot. Like there's some cool ideas
Speaker 3: in there, Like I I that I respect, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. It's like when I was playing it, if
Speaker 3: it did anything for me.
Speaker 1: So the thing that I so, I'm exactly the same
Speaker 1: with you, and I own that game maybe four times,
Speaker 1: and I tried to force myself into playing it by
Speaker 1: starting to stream it, and I got like three episodes
Speaker 1: into that, three streams into that, and I realized just
Speaker 1: didn't like it. It does. The thing that I dislike
Speaker 1: about it is it it robs you of one of
Speaker 1: the most like enjoyable aspects of Metroid venues, which is
Speaker 1: like exploring an area but also charting that area as
Speaker 1: you go along. So like in Metroid, like you walk
Speaker 1: down a walk down a corridor and the map starts
Speaker 1: to fill out that corridor and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: see where I'm going here, and like you, by the
Speaker 1: end of a session, you've got like different like a
Speaker 1: hodgepodge of filled out areas, and it gives you the
Speaker 1: idea of, you know, I'm going to check that, whereas
Speaker 1: in Hollow Night you have to like you go through
Speaker 1: an entire area and then you have to sit at
Speaker 1: a bench and that's when the map will be like
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna fill this out for you. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then you have to find a character like hidden
Speaker 1: in the environment that will sell you a map of
Speaker 1: an area. I'm just like, I hate that. I really
Speaker 1: don't like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also thought like the whole like you know,
Speaker 3: go collect your souls when you died thing. I wish
Speaker 3: that game didn't have that mechanic, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 3: because something I like about like a like a good
Speaker 3: metro naanias you can go off in so many different
Speaker 3: directions that if you get like stuck one place, you
Speaker 3: could be like, oh, I'll go somewhere else, and like,
Speaker 3: you know, that game could be really damn hard and
Speaker 3: some of the bosses to get stuck on and you're like,
Speaker 3: I want to go, I'll go try a different area
Speaker 3: and maybe go try a different boss, but the game
Speaker 3: discourages you from doing that because you're like, well, no,
Speaker 3: I have to go back to that boss because they
Speaker 3: have all my dang, I don't know them almost stuff
Speaker 3: alm the stuffs, and I got to go get it back,
Speaker 3: so like or like you just have to like decide,
Speaker 3: like like at some point I would get so frustrated
Speaker 3: that I'd be like, all right, I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere else. I'm gonna have to abandon my stuff,
Speaker 3: and like that felt bad and I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Got Carl Urban and Thor Ragnarok going behold my stuff.
Speaker 1: There's nothing there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's gonna be for episode one oh six of
Speaker 1: Games Spot after Dark before we head off. Jean Luke,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? And what have you been
Speaker 1: up to?
Speaker 3: You can find me at John League. Sipeke I am.
Speaker 3: I wrote up a quick, small little video about Split Game. Well,
Speaker 3: I think that game is pretty dang cool. If you're
Speaker 3: like Halo, you should check that game out because that
Speaker 3: game is That game is awesome. For those who don't know,
Speaker 3: it's basically like a small indie studio made a free
Speaker 3: to play shooter that's Halo meets Portals and it plays
Speaker 3: exactly like Halo, but you have everyone has a portal
Speaker 3: gun and it's as awesome as it sounds. It's really
Speaker 3: really good. Like it's I've been like introducing it to
Speaker 3: a lot of people I've been playing with, like Jake
Speaker 3: and Cally and and I'm always like, hey, you guys
Speaker 3: gotta try this, and like everyone I get to try
Speaker 3: is always like, oh, this is like awesome, This is
Speaker 3: like really really cool. So if you guys haven't checked
Speaker 3: it out, you should. But yeah, I did a little
Speaker 3: video on that that should be up. The video is
Speaker 3: actually edited by our brand new person to the video team, Davante.
Speaker 3: We'll have to get get him on the podcast at
Speaker 3: some point for sure, but yeah, yeah that should be
Speaker 3: DeVante's first video that he's put together that I'm really
Speaker 3: excited to see. So yeah, definitely check that out.
Speaker 1: Sick awesome. I think it's free in most places as well, so.
Speaker 3: It's a it's one hundred percent free, and it's on
Speaker 3: Xbox PS four and PC, and it's all cross play,
Speaker 3: so you can.
Speaker 2: You can play with on PC and Wrexham console.
Speaker 3: Like honestly, I think there is no like way to
Speaker 3: turn it off, at least on PC, so that half
Speaker 3: the time I am getting paired with people on console
Speaker 3: and I am top of the leader board just detroying everyone.
Speaker 3: It is so much fun, like holy shit, and and
Speaker 3: so I'm like going off on this game, but like
Speaker 3: right now, like people don't know how to use the
Speaker 3: portals that much, so they're just kind of playing it
Speaker 3: like a shooter. So if you go in on PC
Speaker 3: you know how to play the portals, you will have
Speaker 3: such a good time completely reckoned people. I highly get
Speaker 3: in while the getting is good on that game.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what high level competitive play
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 1: I know, you see what you've been up to where
Speaker 1: I can people behind you.
Speaker 4: I'm on pre production on a bunch of stuff, so
Speaker 4: nothing immediately. I don't think they'll be coming out. I
Speaker 4: went to Lucy James games where because I forgot to
Speaker 4: mention this like up front and it doesn't really fit
Speaker 4: in the show at all. But fucking Trevor Moore died
Speaker 4: last week, and I am still fucking sad. Like I'm
Speaker 4: I'm never really hit hard by celebrity death, but like
Speaker 4: Trevor Moore, Yeah, absolutely comedic Genius Whites Kids, you know,
Speaker 4: was one of those shows that like when I first
Speaker 4: started using YouTube, because obviously being in the UK we
Speaker 4: didn't get the show. I would just watch those sketches
Speaker 4: over and over again, and man, that is super sad.
Speaker 4: And so I just retweeted a very very good thing
Speaker 4: that someone did and kind of like pay respects to
Speaker 4: Trevor Moore, but yeah, send me your favorite whites kids,
Speaker 4: you know, sketches at Loose Dams Games.
Speaker 2: Michael, you can find me and all my bullshit at
Speaker 2: Michael p highm on Twitter. And speaking of tasting of
Speaker 2: video game characters that influenced your tastes in people, shooton
Speaker 2: Akaiyama from Yakuza. Oh my god, he is I've been
Speaker 2: on record. I published this on GameSpot dot com saying
Speaker 2: that shoon A Kayama from the Aux series is the
Speaker 2: finest video digital man alive alive in video games ever.
Speaker 2: If you don't know what I'm talking about, look him
Speaker 2: up and watch his bucking me tie performance, because it
Speaker 2: is a thing of Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can get behind that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I guess I can say this now
Speaker 2: at the I will what time does this was? What
Speaker 2: time does this? Podcast?
Speaker 3: Published Friday Friday, eight am eight am.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the listener is gonna get it in before.
Speaker 2: If you listen to this, then I guess I should
Speaker 2: announce that I am gonna be leaving game Spot in
Speaker 2: two weeks. No, yeah, so damn that that that that's
Speaker 2: weird to say. Oh shit, Oh it's almost almost five years,
Speaker 2: coming up on five years. But yeah, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be leaving game Spot on I think I'll
Speaker 2: talk more about what I'm what I'm doing at a
Speaker 2: at a later point. But yeah, for the listeners of this,
Speaker 2: you get a little exclusively.
Speaker 1: Leaving games Spot, but not leaving the game Spot after
Speaker 1: Dark podcast because we'll have you back on. Hey, that's
Speaker 1: you know easy.
Speaker 2: I'm not going I'll say is I'm not going far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not going far. You'll be hanging around, It'll be
Speaker 1: all right, yep. Meanwhile, you can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at more h where I'm doing stuff, just posting things,
Speaker 1: just you know, putting words on the internet and hoping
Speaker 1: for the best. I'm not what my working on. I'm
Speaker 1: working on you're working on like ten different working on
Speaker 1: many things and nothing somehow. Yeah, I guess we should
Speaker 1: plug Born to Run on giant bomb dot com and
Speaker 1: also the very online show, which is something that Lucy
Speaker 1: is doing with myself and Jeff beck Law, and please
Speaker 1: check that out. We'd love it if you check that out,
Speaker 1: and you know, just leave a match saying how I'm
Speaker 1: here from Games for after Dark and this ship rocks awesome.
Speaker 1: Please do more of it and pay all the staff more,
Speaker 1: pay your respect. Yeah, and then you can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitch as well. I stream three times a week
Speaker 1: Twitch or TV or fashional h come and watch. It's
Speaker 1: a good time for the cat cam, but the cat
Speaker 1: cam and we will see you next week where we
Speaker 1: will be exclusively recording episode one oh seven of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Straight back
Speaker 2: Piece