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Presston Handy, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 5: Us, Hey Ben, thanks for me having me in again today.

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It's it's nice when we this is a really heavy deal,

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but nice when we have some local legal issues in

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the world of sports to talk about involving sports characters

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and not talking about boring things like antitrust and eligibility rules.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I hate having to talk about this, but obviously everyone

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wants to get the latest on what is going on

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with the Parker Kingston case, and so we we heard

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a few days ago obtually that he was arrested. He was,

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it was not he was held and detained without bail.

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The arrangement arraignment occurred today, I believe, and kind of

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give us the latest on on park for Kingston and

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what's going.

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Speaker 1: On with him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, again, this is a heavy stuff to talk about,

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but it's caught the tension of the Utah sports world.

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So you know, one thing we talked about yesterday is

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why was he held without bail, and we talked about

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certain statutory guidelines. It's interesting the judge today said, I

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reviewed the probable cause dam and I found, by clearing

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convince and evidence that mister Kingston was a danger to

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the community, and that's why I held him without bail.

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So what happened today is they showed up at court.

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He's hired a lawyer. Her name is Cara Tungaro. I

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don't know ker personally. She specializes in criminal defense, very experienced.

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county prosecutor as well, so she's been on the other side,

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which being on the other side always helps. And I

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think she's a very experienced attorney and she specializes in

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sex crimes. So I think he's got good counsel and

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probably went through a vetting process there. So today, around

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one o'clock they show up at this arraignment and the

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purpose of an arraignment and incidentally, in one of the

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articles I've read, and again we're all just reading articles

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right now. We had some court documents yesterday, but showed

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a picture of him in you know, prison gear, and

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that's a pretty sobering thing to see anyone in that.

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few days a lot, you know, and so you know,

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the legal system allows for certain things. But they showed

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up today for him to enter a plea. He entered

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a plea of not guilty, and there were certain conditions

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set forth. The one thing that or his attorney wanted

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was to have him released, and she said, you know,

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if you'll release him on bail, he will be leaving

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Washington County because we'll get into the terms of that.

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but apparently they it was one hundred thousand dollars bill

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and that basically just secures that he'll show up at

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future hearings, you know. And ten thousand dollars is you know,

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a lot of money, and you get that back if

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you comply with the court orders and show up at everything.

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some things setting for some conditions of his release, and

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some of those, most notably they noted that these are interesting.

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the judge about it. And part of them are that

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he has to he has to leave Washington County. He

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can't go to Saint George unless he has to appear

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in court. He has to wear an ankle bracelet for

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a GPS ankle bracelet monitor for sixty days, and has

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to check in with pre trial services. He has to

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get off of all social media apps. You know. Apparently

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social media apps, and I think that's apparently how they met.

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protective order was put in place. He can't talk with

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her family, or her roommates, or any potential witnesses on

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this case as they prepare to, you know, prosecute this case.

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Speaker 4: Well, why would those stipulations be in place? Would you say,

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is there any you know? I mean, because don't you

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need witnesses? Don't you need to be able to converse?

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I mean, is it just him today? Can't get his lawyer?

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Speaker 5: Yes, don't see him? Just him?

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Speaker 5: They they you know, and we're not talking. Let's just

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talk about it. Any kind of criminal case. You know,

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someone may want to influence a or threaten or put

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pressure on a certain witness. And we're not suggesting that,

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but those are I think those are just very standard

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things that are put in place. It all needs to

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go through his lawyer, basically, you know, so he doesn't

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I'm just hypothetical. Didn't say what is she doing? I

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wish she wouldn't press charges. I wish she wouldn't do this.

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it a professional arms lake distance and let the legal process,

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let it all go through his attorney, and that it

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will all go through his attorney. And apparently they're supposed

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to appear on February twenty third. I'm sorry, February twenty fifth,

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and I think what's going to happen there. It didn't

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outline it exactly, is that there's going to be a

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schedule set for he's gonna he was released today un bail.

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agreed to it. I don't know if he's been fully

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released yet. That wasn't reported. But they will set a

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schedule of everything leading up to trial when they meet

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Speaker 4: So he goes before the fifth Judicial District in the

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Saint George's district before. Is it Judge John J. Walton?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly fifth dis record. I don't know Judge Walton.

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up to see what his experience was. You know, it's

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random how judges get assigned. You know, there's a rotation,

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and there are judges that have a criminal calendar, there

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are judges that have a civil calendar, and you know

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They've tried to keep him different, spaced out a little

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bit and separated lately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the procedures are of entreat to me.

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They gave him an ankle monitor, so we understand that

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he was helped without bail because they thought he was

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a flight risk, and then they gave him an ankle monitor.

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I guess is there any details as to why they

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think he's a flight risk?

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Speaker 5: You know, we just heard that. I heard that just

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in passing yesterday. I don't know that that's true unless

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he's a pilot and owns his own private jet. I

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don't know that that. What the judge said is I

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found by clear and convincing evidence that mister Kingston was

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a danger to the community. And that sounds pretty heavy.

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an alleged felony and the charge felony, that's kind of

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one of the standards, and that might be that might

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be a status story thing where that So that's why

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he held him. I think people would have probably thought, oh,

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you can't let him out just yet. But he's going

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to get out and he just needs to comply with

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the terms of his release, you know, and I'm sure

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he will, you know, because now the court's looking at

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him and he he wants to present his defense. And

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what will happen now, Ben is you know, for the

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last year, the law enforcement and the prosecution, they've been

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able to talk to people and look at things and

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look at evidence, and he hasn't had a lawyer, and

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now his lawyer will have a chance to dig into everything.

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See who they'll have to they'll have to disclose who

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all the potential witnesses are. They'll have to disclose their

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evidence what it is, and she'll have a chance with

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her team to do an investigation and look to see

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how these things line up, see what witnesses you know,

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could potentially you know, hurt his case, who could help

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his case, some who could be questioned and maybe you know,

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impeached or you know, certain things, and you know, and

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he'll he'll have to be very helpful in you know,

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he was one of the people there, and he'll have

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to be helpful with his side of the story. And

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we know that the uh we spoke about it yesterday

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the probable cause AFFI David, you know, and the one

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of the things we talked about it said in an

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interview at Dependent he claims that all sexual activity with

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the victim was consensual. And they went on to say

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based on communications obtained from his cell phone, so we

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know that it can be inferred that he went to

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a partner with the attention of having sexual intercourse. What

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we don't know, and this is something that I'd really

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like to know, is when did they interview him. Was

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it right after was it two weeks, three weeks when

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evidence was fresh or was it just a month ago

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when they finally decided, hey, we bet we better interviewed him.

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So we don't know that, I mean a.

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Speaker 4: Lawyer at that time. But he just got a call

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maybe from a police officer, and he's just answering questions, right.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what it appears to be that he did

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not have a lawyer, because the first time we hear

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about Tara Tara Tungero is in the reports in the

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paper today or the articles today. Yeah, we never even

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heard of that before. I think had he been represented,

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we would have heard about it. So I think he

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was interviewed without counsel, which sometimes is really dangerous. But

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you know, I'm guessing he just told the truth. And

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you know, we talked about a little bit about whether

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there was DNA evidence. Don't need DNA evidence. He's admitted

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to the to the activity, right, He's admitted to what happened.

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come down to. And so none of us know about

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what evidence or witness testimony or things maybe some texts

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has that might really be bolstering their claim. We just

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Speaker 4: How quickly can a trial begin, right, Like, what are

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the different avenues that this can go and how quickly can.

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Speaker 1: It be done?

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Speaker 5: Well, let me speak from a little bit of ignorance.

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We handle civil cases, and in civil cases there are

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set deadlines. You have different tiers of cases and deadlines

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of fact discovery, expert discovery, disclosure of evidence, disclosure of witnesses.

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how the criminal calendar says that. I would think his

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side would want a speedy, a very speedy resolution to this.

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I mean, that's in his best interest not to drag

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this out. I mean, you know, again, I tried to

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emphasize this as a legal process. There's a victim who

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feels her cause is very just. There's a prosecution that

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to support and prove their case. But there's also a

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defendant in this case, Parker Kingston, who has constitutional rights

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a conflicting story, and he's going to want to get

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a chance to tell his story. I would think, you know,

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and we can maybe talk about it. I was very

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wrong on the Jake Retslof case. I thought that was

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going to drag out for a couple of years, because

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civil cases can really drag out, you know, And and

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monetary settlement, and Jake retslaf in many ways bought his

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than the allegations and the defenses. It's night and day difference.

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Speaker 4: Carraton God, I've been doing a little bit of research.

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Speaker 1: She also has.

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Speaker 1: I think she was.

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Speaker 4: Former Salt Lake County prosecutor for seven years. She's a

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criminal defense attorney since twenty thirteen. She's a solo criminal

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defense lawyer. I don't know if there's any other partners

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in her firm. Numerous She's had on numerous feeny jury trials,

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including capital Hama side cases. She's known. She's known for

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as both a former prosecutor and a seasoned defense attorney.

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I found that interesting that she's and you mentioned that

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as well tested you know, she's very hands on it.

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now past bar president. And I find it, you know,

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very strategic move a female also representing a male in

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you know, rape cases that she's taken on, but any

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thoughts on the representation of Parker Kingston.

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Speaker 5: Only what I've heard, and I think she's very experienced.

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I think it's good that she was in she was

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that she might have a a a relationship with the prosecutors. Well,

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District's Attorney's office, so you know, it gives her a

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different perspective. I think, I think it's good that he

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has a woman represented him. I think that you know,

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the the accuser is a woman, and there might be

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she might I think, I think he I'm sure that

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he looked at his options and he got a very

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experienced criminal defense attorney, so you know, you know, you know,

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facts are out there, evidence is out there, allegations are

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to make any decisions on really what the resolution is,

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what the truth is, but need to let the legal

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process play its way out. And so you know, he's

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got constitutional rights and he's he'll be well represented.

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Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Presenthandyhandylaw Utah dot Com Handy and

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the the you know, I would like to see data.

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were actually able to prove rape in those cases. I'm

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like how many of these you know, go one way

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what's been happening in these maybe a higher profile rape cases. Recently,

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both directions, but it seems like it's almost like a

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Speaker 5: Well, one thing I would caution everyone is every case

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is different. Every case stands alone on its facts. You know,

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when we occasionally have a client say, well I heard

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what all this evidence is and what they're relying on

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and be able to tackle it. And you know, she'll

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the line a higher burden. Civil is by a preponderance

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of evidence. Criminal is beyond a reasonable doubt. A lot

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of people say, well, what does that mean really, but

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that is the standard beyond a reasonable doubt. So the

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prosecution has a heavy burden and they have to prove

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every element of their case. He doesn't have to prove anything,

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you know. It's it's good to, uh, if you're defending something,

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to call questioning things and see where there are weaknesses.

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we know there's a fifth minute, a fifth Amendment or

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right to uh. You don't even have to testify, you know,

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you know, avoid self incrimination. So I think his his

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attorney will tackle this and look at all of it

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and see how they want to strategically approach all of that.

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Speaker 4: And we salute you, We appreciate you. I always appreciate

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our time talking sports Cord. For those that are listening

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what services do you provide them? Why should they call

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Speaker 5: Well, Ben, We've first off loved coming in here with

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another tough opponent, it's gonna be a quad three game

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at home.

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Speaker 1: At some point.

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Speaker 7: I think this was a quad to might even at

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the start of the season, might have been a quad

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one game. Look the Big twelve stuff. It doesn't matter

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who you are, what you play, how you play it.

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I've covered this team for a long time, covered this

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conference since Bau has gotten into it.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's not easy.

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Speaker 7: And this is a Colorado team that didn't have a

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good outing per Tad Boyle. He said it was a

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good old fashioned, a whooping Texas beat down.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be motivated.

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Speaker 7: I know it's a young team, but they're looking for

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revenge and what better way for the Buffs to come

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into provo to the Marriott tomorrow and to spoil Jimmer

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for Debt's retirement. Look, they're gonna try to play spoiler.

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ESPN the Fan Hotline and welcome.

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Speaker 1: In Pat Rooney.

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Speaker 7: He represents the Daily camera over there in Boulder, Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Pat, Thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you bet, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Of course, let's break this matchup down.

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Speaker 7: Who are the Colorado Buffaloes and what do Cougar fans need.

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Speaker 1: To know about this basketball team?

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Speaker 6: That's a good question. Who are the Buffalos? I think

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if you ask Tad Boyle, he would tell you that

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this is a team without an identity right now. You know,

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defense and rebounding is something Tad Boyle has preached throughout

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this time. He's in the sixteenth season now at Colorado,

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and those are areas that this team has struggled in

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kind of mightily really throughout the season, even when they're

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winning games and non conference play, they were kind of

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outscoring people for the most part, and it wasn't the

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defense that was winning the games. Now they're playing better defenses,

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the offense is struggling a little bit. They're having a

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hard time keeping pacing. Quite frankly, they've been bad on

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the road, especially of late, getting kind of run out

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of the gym in their last few games. So you know,

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I in your intro, I do think Colorado will come

476
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:07,920
out and have a better showing than the other night.

477
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,279
They would almost have to, but for the most part,

478
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,000
they've had a good track record of bouncing back after

479
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,720
ugly games under Tad Boy. I don't think they're gonna

480
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:19,400
win on Saturday, but I think they'll put up a

481
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:19,880
better fight.

482
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough on Saturday.

483
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 7: You mentioned a lot obviously BYU has this this guy

484
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,799
that no one knows, right, no one knows who agent

485
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,000
bonds AJ d Bons. Excuse me, no idea, Richie Saunders.

486
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,400
From your standpoint, you just say you don't think they'll win,

487
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,160
and look, it's a tough matchup. They got a three

488
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,079
headed monster. But from your vantage point when you watched

489
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,079
them on tape, what do you see? Because AJ is

490
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,759
AJ right, But I feel like from what I've gathered

491
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,880
from coaches just the last couple of weeks, Houston, Arizona,

492
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:53,079
you know everybody that they played, Oklahoma State, even Baylor,

493
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,039
it sounds like it's Richie Saunders who teams are really

494
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:57,920
worried about, not saying that AJ is not a good player.

495
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,359
We know he's gonna be a top two pick, but

496
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,079
it seems like the the top King, as they call

497
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,079
him in provo, is the guy that they're that they fear,

498
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,240
you know when.

499
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 6: I when I watch b YU and you know, I

500
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:09,920
think Richie Saunders is is kind of the guy that

501
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,279
that really makes them go, you know, So be my

502
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,160
first chance to watch him in person this season. They

503
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,880
just had the one game last year as well here

504
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
in Boulder. But I love Richie Saunders. You know, I

505
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,440
think he's uh, you know, kind of the glue.

506
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: You know.

507
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,599
Speaker 6: It's like you said, Aj Devonsill, looking forward to seeing

508
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,000
him as well. He's always going to do his thingers

509
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,680
the reason he's gonna be one of the top picks

510
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,079
in the NBA draft. But uh, you know, as far

511
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,599
as a guy that's a veteran leader, been through the battles,

512
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,519
you know, I think Richie Saunders is the guy that

513
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,039
is going to I don't know, make or break this

514
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,039
team in March, but I think he's the biggest factor

515
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,079
for a deep March run out of byu. Uh just

516
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,839
you know, the way he could lead that team and

517
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,400
the way he can do a little bit of everything

518
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,279
to help that team win.

519
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 7: You mentioned Richie making a deep march a man in

520
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:55,759
his run. We saw he was able to do in

521
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,480
the tournament last year. BA fans are going to love

522
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:02,160
hearing that from you. In this know the faux segment. Look,

523
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,240
who's going to be tasked with guarding Aj. Who's going

524
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,960
to be tasted guarding Richie on this Buff teams of

525
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,319
this Buffs team. I'm interested to see what the matchups

526
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,920
are going to be tomorrow afternoon.

527
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. The Buffs have been searching

528
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,359
for a defensive stopper, if you will, all year. I

529
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,920
think in the in the case of AJ, Debonsta, either

530
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,279
Bang Got Dak or Seveastian ron Cheek will I will

531
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,039
guess get the opening assignment against him. I would expect,

532
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:33,559
you know, because BYU, it's unlike Texas Tech, BYU is

533
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,680
not a team that can necessarily, you know, maybe really

534
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,319
make you fret from three point range. You'll finding those

535
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,359
open shooters when you double teams. So I think we'll

536
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,960
see kind of more double teaming on the ball than

537
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,599
we usually see out of Colorado, especially when it gets

538
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,119
to the ball gets to AJ and Richie Saunders I

539
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,000
think one of the big guards, you know, Tableau's kind

540
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,920
of shuffled the lineup, so we will see who is

541
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,599
in the lineup, but some combination of either jayaln On

542
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,720
hotlland or the other freshman Josiah Sanders, would maybe get

543
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:06,920
the opening draw against him. But again, I would think

544
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720
this is a game where we might see the Buffaloes

545
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,599
double a little bit more than they typically do, just

546
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:15,799
because you know, they played Texas Tech the other day

547
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,079
and you know prior to that at Arizona and BYU

548
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,920
teams that can really make you pay if you leave

549
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,559
shooters alone from three point range. And I'm not saying

550
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,960
BYU doesn't have plenty of capable shooters, but the numbers

551
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,079
say that's not an area where they're going to necessarily

552
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:31,359
beat the Buffs on Saturday.

553
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:32,559
Speaker 1: You big a really good point.

554
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 7: Cougar's a struggle from three and also not the identity

555
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,680
I think of this team like it was last year.

556
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:39,880
So definitely could see that on the scouter report and

557
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,279
Agent getting doubled, maybe even triple. We've seen the tape

558
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,839
guys try to do that in the Big Twelve Conference.

559
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,599
From your vantage point of this Big Twelve Conference is

560
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,799
this an exciting year. I mean, there's so much talent.

561
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,359
It's always the toughest thing, right. I think it's still

562
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720
the best basketball conference in America. I know the SEC

563
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,559
is going to get the most teams in, but I

564
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,400
just think the Big Twelve, you know, it's it's like

565
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,799
the SEC of football, Like anybody can get you on

566
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,400
any given night. But from your standpoint, how do you

567
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200
evaluated this season as a lot of projected lottery picks

568
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,599
going into the NBA next season.

569
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, that part of it's for sure fun and you know,

570
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,200
like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing your guys

571
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,000
play live on on Saturday. Yeah, you know, I told her,

572
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,079
I think I felt like last year the Big Twelve

573
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,079
was it was as deep and balanced as any any

574
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,119
league in the country, including the SEC. This year, you know,

575
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
I think it might be a little bit top heavy. Obviously,

576
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:36,960
the middle pack is still very strong. You know, a

577
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
couple of teams struggling at the bottom where you know,

578
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,599
the Buffs are trying to stay out of the bottom

579
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,279
bottom at this point. You know, a couple of teams

580
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,119
I think have been pretty disappointing. Baylor for sure, although

581
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,839
they've played better of late. I think Kansas State has

582
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,440
been been pretty disappointing. I think the middle pack is

583
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,359
maybe kind of what we taught, but it certainly the

584
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,799
top of this conference is as good as any conference

585
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,599
in the in the country. The bus don't get Arizona

586
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,240
Soil the end of the regular season, but you know,

587
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,519
every time I tune into them, it's, you know, you

588
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160
feel like you're watching a Final Four team. And you

589
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
could say that certainly about Houston and on a good night,

590
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,960
a lot of the other teams as well. So you know,

591
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,839
I'm still big on Texas Tech. You know, they don't

592
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,640
maybe have the depth of some of the other teams,

593
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,559
but you know, I still think that that team is

594
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,920
athletic and you know, even within that starting five, pretty

595
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,680
balanced and j T. Topping can dominate any game on

596
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,400
any night almost the same way as the Bonds to.

597
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Is JT Topping the Big twelve Player of the year?

598
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,519
Speaker 7: I mean in European I feel like aj is pretty

599
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:39,640
much solidifying and locking up newcomer.

600
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,559
Speaker 1: But is j T Topping a Big twelve Player of

601
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:42,400
the Year in your opinion?

602
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's gonna be an interesting uh interesting,

603
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,599
But I think if you took the vote right now,

604
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,359
I would probably go with j T. But I'm already

605
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,400
doing that. I'm managing a little bit. You know, I

606
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,400
think maybe, you know, because of Richie Saunders, maybe JT.

607
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:03,000
Topping is a little bit more individually, you know, kind

608
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,720
of responsible for that team's success that than Aj is

609
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:09,400
by himself. And but you know, I think it's a

610
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,000
it's it's close. They could go either way, and I'm

611
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,519
sure the you know, i'd say, certainly the jury is

612
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,480
not out yet on who exactly that that person I

613
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,319
think I was putting today, I would go with JT.

614
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,079
Top And yes, but uh it would be a close vote,

615
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,519
and I uh uh, you know, certainly certainly time you know,

616
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,880
to to kind of flip that over the last month

617
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,000
of the regular season here, I just think j T.

618
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,039
Topp and you know, the way the way he can rebound.

619
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,000
You know, he's a defensive presence in the middle, and

620
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,480
I think he might be a little bit more integral,

621
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,240
you know, without him, you don't know if Texas Tech

622
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,839
is a top twenty five team. Maybe they are, but yeah,

623
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,640
I think without the bonds to you know, b Yu

624
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,599
is still you know a brigod to because of Richie Saunders,

625
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,240
you know, and maybe kind of close to where they

626
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,839
are anyway.

627
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, Texas tex still the top of twenty five. Think

628
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,359
I believe eighteen and six overall eight and three conference.

629
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,359
In the net they're five and six and Quad one

630
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,119
games four to O. In Quad two they take on

631
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200
number twenty two BAU the last game of the season.

632
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200
If very well could come down to that, j T

633
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,000
top and Richie Samas. Look, if I had to give

634
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,880
a vote today, look we were rejective with it. We

635
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,279
do cover BYU, but I think JT right now is

636
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,720
the front runner with Richie behind, and even Joshua Jefferson

637
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,440
might have something to say that about Iowa sait. It's

638
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,319
a lot of good big twelve players in this conference,

639
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,960
but this Colorado team young. I like a lot of freshmen,

640
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960
but how do you retain all of it? Look at

641
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,960
the day of the nil the transfer portal, it's just

642
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,640
tough to retain high level talent. But I like what

643
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,640
Colorado has and a lot of young guys. Is just

644
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,559
I don't know how you can sustain all of those

645
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:43,680
guys going to the next season.

646
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 6: And that's the big question mark. You know. Ted Boyle

647
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,519
has been saying since the outset of the season that

648
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,440
the key is going to be retaining all their guys.

649
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,839
You know, they don't really play. And you see, the

650
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,880
only guy who's going to kind of exhaust his eligibility

651
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,279
is Elijah Malone, you know, a backup center at this

652
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,400
point who's playing sparingly. As far as everyone on the floor,

653
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,119
most of them, you know, are schedul know on paper,

654
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
schedule be back, even be back for multiple years, you know.

655
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640
And this is how Tad Boyle has built teams, the

656
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,079
teams that he's had success with the Colorado the recruits

657
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,680
and developed type program and he's talked about the need

658
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,599
to retain the young guys. I just think it's gonna

659
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,279
be very hard for this team to do.

660
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: So.

661
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 6: You know one freshman to look at it, it's Isaiah Johnson.

662
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
He's been the team's leading scorer, has probably played beyond

663
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,559
kind of where he was recruited. He's a little under recruited,

664
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,480
but he's a great shooter, plays with a lot of poise,

665
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,200
uh and has has had some big game you know,

666
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,720
fearless going to the basket. He's a wily little guy,

667
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:47,200
but uh, he can get to the free throw line,

668
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,160
can score through contact, at the rim. You know, it's

669
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Colorado going to be able to retain a guy like

670
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,839
that for a couple more years. I don't know that

671
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:57,880
that's gonna be a big question. There's not a lot

672
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,200
of nil money at Colorado right now, and there's a

673
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,839
new ad as well, so I you know that's gonna

674
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,519
be the big question. Taed Boyle has seemed confident that

675
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,960
they're going to be able to do it. But I

676
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,400
think with every big game Isaiah Johnson has down the stretch,

677
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,400
it's going to get harder and harder to do.

678
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,679
Speaker 7: So you bring up a really good point in the

679
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,159
day of nil and this this this kid's Fenoumena. This

680
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,760
freshman sixty one, one hundred seventy pounder from Los Angeles, California,

681
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,239
averaging over sixteen points per game, over two point seven rebounds,

682
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,840
two point five assists. It shoots forty nine percent from

683
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:34,119
the field. Those are very good numbers. It's going to

684
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,480
be tough. You mentioned the innil Colorado new ad. Your

685
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:40,000
thoughts on the new ad. I know that that got announced,

686
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:40,880
you know, not too long ago.

687
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've met him a few times. Hoping to sit

688
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,639
down with him next week to talk about some basketball

689
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,960
matters actually, so we will hopefully stay tuned for that

690
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,199
down the road. You know, I've been impressed. He's, you know,

691
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920
younger guy, a lot of energy. I think in this

692
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:59,199
day and age, it's kind of and maybe it's take

693
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,079
nothing way. Rick Jor has done a great job at

694
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,599
Colorado on the whole during his tenures. The outgoing kind

695
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,599
of retiring athletic director. He's going to kind of stay

696
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,679
on in an advisory role. But I think, you know,

697
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,400
some some new energy, some new insights, some new way

698
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,599
to approach things. You know, there's I go around to

699
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,599
these for instance, you know, visiting you know, some of

700
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,519
these still in the second year of the Big twelve.

701
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,440
Some of these venues are still new to me. I

702
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,320
like walking around checking them out, seeing, you know, kind

703
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,559
of what all the perks and amenities are. And the

704
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,760
more I do that, the more I see how some

705
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,800
of those amenities are are kind of lagging at Colorado.

706
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,280
So I think someone with with with some of his

707
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,239
kind of administrative and kind of sports business background will

708
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,840
be good going forward. And I'm certainly curious to see

709
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,480
how he handles the basketball program going forward.

710
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, new ad, younger guy, that's good. But in this

711
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day and age, you have to pay for players to

712
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stay and pay to play.

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Speaker 1: That's the name of the game.

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Speaker 7: Here with Pat Rooney on the line, he is covers

715
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all things ready to Colorado buffs at the Daily camera

716
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,239
over there in Boulder, Colorado on the line with his

717
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discussing some basketball news. Let's transition now, Pat, let's go

718
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to football. How long do you think Coach Prime will

719
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be there? I like what Coach Prime is models, how

720
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he has young men. I don't think I've ever seen

721
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a head coach publicly says I'm going to find you

722
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one thousand dollars for a mouthpiece. That's an expensive mouthpiece, Pat,

723
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But I love the I love how disciplined Prime is,

724
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what he brings. But how long do you anticipate him standing?

725
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But I love him being in the Big twelve. I

726
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think it's great for the conference.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm gonna be honest. He's stayed longer

728
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than I thought he would. You know, I thought he

729
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might jump at an opportunity to move up the ladder,

730
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or you know, maybe jumping down. You know, the more

731
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I've been around, I think the NFL is less and

732
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less likely. But you know that after a second season

733
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when they had the good year, solid year with Travis

734
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Hunter and his son shador Sand, I thought he might

735
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jump to someone that might, you know, give him more

736
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and I owe money to work with and you know,

737
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kind of more of the person amenities who were just

738
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talking with basketball. So he's already stayed a little longer

739
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than I thought he would. And you know, going forward,

740
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I think it's a matter of his health. I've written

741
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this kind of before and Colins and so forth. At

742
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this point, I think it's less about him necessarily looking

743
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for another opportunity or a bigger challenge or or kind

744
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of any of those other things. I think for him

745
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right now, at this point, it's probably more a matter

746
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of his personal health and how much longer he wants

747
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to do it. You know, he's had some pretty serious

748
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,960
health issues have been pretty well detailed obviously. Last year

749
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with recovering from the bladder cancer took a lot out

750
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of him physically, and you know, I think that's gonna

751
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be the biggest thing going forward. If he says healthy,

752
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I could see him doing it for several more years.

753
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If he has more help setbacks, you know, I think

754
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that's that'll be the big question. Mark, and I think

755
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,480
it's more a matter of that than you know, kind

756
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of moving up the coaching lafe or if you will,

757
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going forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always always want the best for people's health.

759
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Speaker 7: These days, we've seen a lot of people from people

760
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,800
in our personal lives to you know, public figures, a

761
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,239
lot of people. I think there was an actor I

762
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,880
forgot the name of the guy who forty eight just

763
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,320
passed away, Like, look, you never want to see that.

764
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And we look we here at ESP and the fan

765
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here on Cougar Sports. You know, wish Coach.

766
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Speaker 1: Prime you know all health. I know him and Kalani

767
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have a great relationship.

768
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Speaker 7: Hope he's able to keep coaching young man because I

769
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came from a very disciplined household, it came from a

770
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military background. I love how coach Prime is all about

771
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,079
his business. If Coach Prime you know where to to,

772
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you know leave, Is there anybody in the program or

773
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step down? It would be due to the health that

774
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you mentioned anybody in the program right now? Coaching waiting,

775
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:45,320
what do you like about what they have on this

776
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,320
Colorado or Buffalo's football staff.

777
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like describing this person as necessarily a

778
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coach in waiting because he's yet to actually coach a

779
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,079
game at Colorado, but the new offensive coordinator, Brendon Mary

780
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,840
and the former head coach at at Sacramento State. He's

781
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,719
bringing in his go go offense. It's going to be

782
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run heavy, vertical passing. We will see how it works.

783
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,840
But given his coaching background, he's kind of a younger,

784
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dynamic guy. I think if you know, Dean Sanders were

785
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to make a decision or if something were to change

786
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in the coming months or year or whatever, you know,

787
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I think that's the guy would look to, obviously as

788
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,840
you have to coach a game at Colorado, so uh,

789
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you know, tap the brakes on that a little bit.

790
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But you know, he so far, the reviews have been,

791
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you know, pretty good about what they've been able to

792
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do in recruiting, and you know, athletes, his attraction to

793
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what he's bringing to the table as far as the

794
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,199
offense goes so and they have a young quarterback, and

795
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you know, if they do well this upcome and fall,

796
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:48,440
you know, certainly if they put points on the board,

797
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,440
you know, I think he would be the guy that

798
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,920
you would maybe look at, you know, to to kind

799
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of take the reins from from Dean Sanders if it

800
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came to that.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about the offense. You've mentioned the quarterback.

802
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 7: I thought Colorado, even in the ups and downs, I

803
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,079
thought they played well. The competitive nature of that TCU game.

804
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,280
I still look at that game of like I felt

805
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480
like that sort of things may be unraveled, but I

806
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,920
felt like they were in a lot of games, you know,

807
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before that middle part of the stretch.

808
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Speaker 6: You know, it's just interesting what happened to that team

809
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:22,719
down the stretch, because they had a good mid season

810
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,599
win against Iowa State at home and I think it

811
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got him to three and four, and you know, they

812
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had a new quarterback. It looked like they were figuring

813
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things out right, and they had a bye week after that.

814
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But then you know, they came out of that bye

815
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,960
and just you know, they laid an egg in the

816
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first game after that, and can kind of really never

817
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,559
really recaptured that momentum. So that was surprising to me,

818
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Especially after that win against Iowa State. They kind of

819
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,760
had a feel of a team that was that was

820
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figuring it out a little bit. But I do like

821
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the quarterback Julian Lewis kind of really showed his potential

822
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,519
down the stretch this past year, and you know they're

823
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,719
they're they're kind of hinging on him going forward. You know,

824
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,079
losing Jordan's seaton, that left tackle, you know, there's there's

825
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,119
no way to sugarcoat that's a huge loss. Even even

826
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with him, that was an average line at best. You know,

827
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maybe maybe above average in some of those early games,

828
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,559
but it still was not a great offensive line top

829
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:19,480
to bottom. And they're not going to be better without him,

830
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,880
so that was a big loss. If they can protect

831
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Julian Lewis, I think they'll be able to move the ball.

832
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,800
They'll always have a good cast of receivers. They always

833
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,519
seem to have a good number of athletes there. But

834
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as always with Colorado, it's just gonna come down to

835
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:37,400
how much they've improved. If they have improved upfront, really

836
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on both sides of the ball.

837
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, the game is won and lost in the trenches,

838
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,079
no doubt about it at all. And look, I love

839
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,519
I'm looking forward to the bu Au Colorado matchups with

840
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,000
coach Prime, you know, for the US to come as

841
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,840
long as he's there. I love this Robbery Brewin and

842
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,039
in basketball, I love Tad Boyle, great coach, love his

843
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:59,559
his his mindset and what he stands for. I know

844
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,199
you say, you b YU are winning this one. Do

845
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,719
you think the Buffs keep it close? You think it's

846
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,039
single digits? I know it's a jersey retirement for a

847
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,000
certain BYU basketball great that you know you probably heard of.

848
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,119
Speaker 1: But the Buffs able to keep this to single digits?

849
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,760
Does bo you win this one by twelve?

850
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 6: I think they'll keep it close for a while. You know,

851
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,639
you know Colorado is they come off a terrible offensive game,

852
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,840
right and then they've been bad on the road. I

853
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,239
think they're gonna be motivated for at least the start

854
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,840
of this game to have a better showing. But if

855
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,760
this turns into a track meet, they're not gonna be able

856
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,679
to keep pace with BYU. So it might be single

857
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,639
digits at halftime. I think BYU pulls away in the

858
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:45,480
second half. I think it's a double digits win by

859
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,440
the end. But you know, hey, the buff lost by

860
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,559
thirty four the other night. I'm guessing it's not gonna

861
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:51,199
be worse than that.

862
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 7: No, it can't be worse than thirty four. I don't

863
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,800
think it's gonna be that type of that. I think

864
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,719
they'll definitely be very much improved.

865
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 6: Come how it is you have to have me back

866
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:58,840
on again?

867
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 7: Though, all right, okay, we'll book that bed right now

868
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,119
here on a Friday, the day before Valentine's Day. If

869
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,519
that happens I did, we definitely will contact you every

870
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,400
back on. I will be just as shocked as you.

871
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Pat normal.

872
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,559
Speaker 7: Those things don't happen in college athletics, back to back

873
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,880
like that. Look, uh, I just followed you on Twitter.

874
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,639
I look, I I tracked people down. Look, I'm twenty nine,

875
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,639
I'm young. I just have my first kid not too

876
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:24,760
long ago. I shouldn't say I my wife had the kid.

877
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,440
I was there, you know, supporting, because you know that's

878
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,840
what you do. That's literally what is you do with

879
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,639
the better three force tells you and you I always say,

880
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:36,800
I'm buying what I've invested in the mortgage, in the stock.

881
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,400
I really don't get to say. You know, that's what

882
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,639
it is, all these fun things. But the best part

883
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:42,239
that you love about being a girl dad, because my

884
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,519
first child is a girl as well.

885
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:48,519
Speaker 6: Nice, nice best part of our watching them grow, how

886
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,440
little years minor kind of over grade school now and

887
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:55,199
seeing how bright and sharp and just witty and the

888
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,639
different personalities between the two of them. It's been great.

889
00:43:58,199 --> 00:43:59,199
Speaker 1: I look forward to those days.

890
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 7: She's fifteen months so, uh, we're still brand new in

891
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:03,840
the par but but but I love that par Uh.

892
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 6: Probably not the first one to tell you this, but

893
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,480
it goes fast.

894
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: You're not know.

895
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 7: A lot of people told me that I'm like, wow,

896
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,000
she's gonna be too this year. That was quicker than

897
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,639
I thought. So I respect my olds and everything that

898
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,239
I'm told I you're not wrong. I and try and

899
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,480
enjoy every single moment as she's just started to walk,

900
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,719
because I'm gonna look up, like my mom said, and

901
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,320
then I'm gonna be looking at college and all of

902
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,079
that and you know, marriage down the line, those crazy things.

903
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:26,920
So before I let you go, the pat, what's the

904
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,559
best way we can support you what you do and

905
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:28,880
how you do?

906
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Speaker 1: Where can we find you work?

907
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Speaker 6: Buff Zone dot com or or Daily Camera dot com

908
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480
is uh the buzzone dot com is kind of our

909
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,519
our Colorado coverage website. But Daily Camera dot com click

910
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,440
on sports you like up all our coverage from basketball

911
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,039
and uh, you know, my good friend Brian Howells the

912
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,400
lead on the football beat, and I was always putting out,

913
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,400
Uh you know, really really great and interesting work on

914
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,000
that program as well, So uh, that would be the

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place to.

916
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Speaker 1: Go Buffzone dot com or Daily Camera.

917
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Speaker 7: You can also follow him on XEM and give them

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a plug here at p Roni zero seven as well. Pat,

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,320
thanks for your time today, save travels and hopefully enjoy

920
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,519
your trip to Provo, Utah.

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00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, heading out soon and thanks again for having me

922
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anytime of course.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll let him go.

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Speaker 7: That was Pat Rooney of the Daily Camera there in Boulder, Colorado.

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six zero four two nine. That would do it for

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another week of cougar sports. Happy Valentine's Day to all

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of you people out there, whether you're celebrating with your

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lovely wife, a husband, a significant other, boyfriend, or if

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you're celebrating with friends, I know the ladies like to

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do Galentines. Whoever you with, please be safe this weekend.

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BYU men's basketball ticking on the Buffs Colorado tomorrow looking

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for back to back wins.

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Speaker 1: I believe they will do so.

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Speaker 7: Andrew Peterson and myself will have it tomorrow on the

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pregame show one pm to two pm right here on

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your Utah ESPN Radio Network. Jimmer Fredett getting his jersey retired.

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Shout out to all of our guests that joined us.

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Brandon Sejourney of the Daily Herald, Matt Brown of Extra

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Points dot Com, Tad Walsh of the Desert News Look.

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Gotta talk about the church stuff. New Apostle Clark Gilbert

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now an apostle