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I am one of your hosts, Pandora taylor Field, and
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Speaker 2: Sir, Yes, and we are here because this has just
been a long time coming, and I mean the time
has come. We're here to talk Daredevil season one, the
Netflix show. I am very much looking forward to this discussion.
We are doing this in celebration for Daredevil Born Again
that's gonna be dropping next year, because this is twenty
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Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're basically going to be reviewing season one, two,
and three in celebration leading to Dreed Devil Born Again.
So originally the reviews that are on our feeds are
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Speaker 1: And maybe Kyle. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know he was a part of some of them.
I think maybe I'm misremembering that. But anyways, so there's
there just Travis and Dellen.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I think I think it at least them
for all at least I don't know if Kyle bounced
on one of those episodes or not, but yeah, check
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unless you had anything else you want to add.
Speaker 1: Before we get into it.
Speaker 3: No, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, uh, have you watched anything else in this
kind of like Netflix, Marvel Era or is this your
first time getting your toes wet?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I got like a little bit of exposure. I think
I've seen about half of the first season of The Punisher.
I really like that show, and for whatever reason, I
just just put it down one day and just never
went back to it. And know now now, now that
we're going through these, I feel like it's gonna be
incentivizing me to check out some of those that I'm
a little bit more interested in.
Speaker 3: Like maybe not so much Iron Fist.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much positive stuff I've heard from
like that and The Defenders and.
Speaker 3: What other shows are there.
Speaker 4: There's does Lucas show or okay, and then yeah Jessica
Jones of course, But no, I watched about half of
the Punisher show, well half of the first season at least,
and then this show, actually I like, now that we're
going through it again and we've watched the full first season,
now I I didn't like. I realized I actually watched
a lot more of the first season than I thought.
I thought I had only seen like the first three episodes,
but I actually seen like majority of the first season.
So it was I mean, yeah, it's it's lots of
fun jumping back into it, and yeah, it's it's really
really you know, to hint at my thoughts, it's, uh,
it's really top quality stuff. So I'm definitely interested in
checking out some of the other properties you know that
Netflix tack with this, so mm hmm you yeah, man.
Speaker 2: I love iron Fest yeck. I believe there were two
seasons of that show. Really really enjoyed it. I thought
it was great, super sad that you can come back.
What else I've seen Jessica Jones, although that was a
very long time ago and I really don't remember much
of it aside from David Tennant's character. I never saw
Luke Cage and yes, I've never seen Daredevil and never
saw Defenders either. So I never watched Punisher either, so
very limited on my affiliation with this kind of small,
little scale universe they created on Netflix. So that being said,
kind of yeah, getting into this show has been an
absolute delight, and I'm happy that because I'm happy that
there are things that I'm sort of familiar with and
I get sort of clue into because there are there
are not like crossover really, but there's similar things in
here that you see in Iron Fists. So I'm kind
of I'm happy that I kind of have my toes
wet a little bit and I kind of already am
a little bit immersed in this kind of world that's
going on. But I am actually really really surprised with
how attached I've become to these characters in this show,
and just overall, it's just it's it's just been a
lot of fun. I feel like I had one more
point I was gonna make about it, but hmmm, yeah,
it'll come back, remember it'll come back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I mean it's funny how this
has really been a long time coming. Like the show
first air twenty fifteen, last season was twenty eighteen, and
now we're doing our little retro for it in twenty
twenty four, and I'm so glad this is happening though,
because like it's just a good excuse for us to
not only just watch the show, but have a full
on discussion about it. And I know there's some people
out there, especially like Travis and Dill and the ones
that have seen it. You know, I'm sure they're a
little interested what we think about it. But no, it's
it's it's really really good. I like what you said,
how like they're doing a really good job at making
us attached to these characters, and it's not just Matt Murdoch,
like like it's the side characters around him. I think
they're doing a really good job and just fleshing them out.
Like Karen, I really really like that character and how
she's set up like in the early portions of the
show of just being like almost like a victim and
then like this is like the first case that Matt
Murdock and crew are like tackling like she's she's she's
here for the long run now and just a really
interesting character. And I think it's it's an interesting case
where not just Matt goes through some like really good
growth in this like even our villain that we'll talk about,
like like he goes through some interesting development and just
the things that make him vulnerable. Like, I think there's
a lot of interesting layers the show has. And yeah, great,
great first season. I think it's really really solid, and
it's nice we don't have to wait for season two.
You know, I didn't want to jump into it until
we recorded this just so that I didn't have any
like knowledge of things that might be happening. So I'm
I'm excited now that after we record this, I can
finally jump into that season two, because yeah, I'm totally
hooked on the show.
Speaker 3: I'm really really looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: And it's also kind of a blessing that we're watching
this now because we don't have to wait so long
for Born Again, right, you know these people that watched
it back in twenty eighteen, they had to wait years
upon years too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did were Born Again.
Speaker 4: It's it's funny too, like watching this and knowing that
like now they're on Disney Plus these shows, but like
originally their Netflix series, and I'm kind of just forget
that they still like kind of I guess are like
they still comment on like some MCU things right, Like
they talk about some events happening like in New York,
and I'm like, what the hell are they talking about?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 4: They're probably talking about like Avengers stuff. But I'm like,
I think I just kind of assumed that they completely
kept it to the side, like no references at all.
They're not saying like Captain America or anything, but just
like them talking about certain things in the city.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, this is.
Speaker 4: Actually like still Marvel Universe, so it doesn't happen a lot,
but like when it does happen, I feel like it's
a good reminder of being like, oh yeah, this is
like it's contained in Hell's Kitchen, but it's still you know,
there's supposedly heroes out there, and now that we're having
Daredevil born again like it is in the in the MCU, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but it's it's fantastic.
Speaker 4: The fight choreography is just like it's so next level,
Like it's it's so entertaining just the fight scenes that
we have, and they do such a great job with
the cinematography, and you know, like if anyone out there
has seen the show, they know about those those awesome
like hallway fights and just extended like fight scenes that
they just execute so well. And there's so many moving pieces,
so many like stunt devils and stuff just doing doing
doing their thing, and uh, yeah, it's really really well coordinated,
and it's a it's a pretty dark show, like dark
theme wise, but also like there's a lot of night
scenes and a lot of like stuff like in dark
buildings and whatnot. It never is it never at any
point does it feel like it's you know, if you
watch like Game was The House of the Dragon, like
there's some really dark episodes where you like can't see
shit and it's just awful.
Speaker 3: It never felt like that.
Speaker 4: Like I felt like they had a good balance of
lighting even though there was a lot of portions of
it being dark. So that's really nice because if you
have a lot of dark scenes and they just don't
look good, I feel like that would really take me
out of the show. But no, I think every episode
was around the fifty five, like just under the hour mark,
and for me, they were just flying through, like like
I was just flying from episode episode for this one
and yeah, no.
Speaker 3: It's super super good show. I'm really really really digging it.
Speaker 4: And yeah, really really liking the character Daredevil here and
just seeing his kind of evolution and I'm excited to
see where he goes in the next two seasons and
what other characters we kind of meet along the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Charlie Cox is fantastic as there. I
really really do. He's fantastic. Matt Murdoch and now my
first ooh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have been Spider Man No Way Home.
Speaker 2: That would have been my first kind of actual affiliation
with him, and I knew who he was and when
he appeared on screen that was It's just it's a cool,
cool crossover to kind of like bring him in there,
and I think, yeah, that was the first time when
he was really brought into the fold of the MCUs.
A lot of buzz, a lot of excitement around that,
and then obviously seeing him in she Hal got to
be a little bit more mersed with his character there
because he had a lot more a lot more room
to kind of shine. And then there's Echo, but it
was really just a one off fight scene. There wasn't
really anything else really with him in that show, but
it was still cool.
Speaker 1: So getting to.
Speaker 4: Really bring up that go because you know, like I
feel like the show is you know it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was a show.
Speaker 4: But like that scene when Daredevil appears, in my mind,
I was trying to remember where he appeared in that,
Like I'm like.
Speaker 3: Was that shee Hulk or something like?
Speaker 4: I just completely wrote echo out of my mind. I
could not piece it together until you just mentioned that now.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's brief, very very brief. I can't
remember it. Like, he didn't kill those guys, did he?
I can't remember because he's not a murder in this
in the season at least.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: He said he'll never go that far.
Speaker 2: I'll never go that far. Yeah, but he like he's
he does such a good job. He just gives me.
He gives me like broke Bruce Wayne vibes and like
this is the MCU's Batman. Itx like he just has
that that vibe to him, And I like how.
Speaker 1: This is just his his origin story.
Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna get into the show and
he was already gonna be full suit, just doing his
thing running around.
Speaker 4: I was surprised how late it took for him to
get the suit. I thought I thought he was just
gonna be like the man in the the black mask
covering like for the first little behalf of the episodes.
But yeah, it wasn't until the very very end when
we actually see him in the suit and yeah, it's
a nice looking suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a really really nice looking suit. But
I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think when they had Karen Page be introduced and
she was a victim, it was just a case for
Foggy and Matt Murdoch, and I like how that kind
of transitioned into her joining the team. I thought that
was actually a really clever way of going about it
that I like her character. I like that she kind
of had her own narrative going on with ben Yurick's character,
she was very interesting.
Speaker 1: And when you're talking.
Speaker 2: About heroes that exists in this universe, you can see
and I'm sure everyone excuse me, jesus, I'm sure everyone
already knows this, but you can see in his office
the newspaper clippings in the back of his wall. You
can see the Hulk from the movie The Incredible Hulk
where it was like Hulk versus Abomination, and so you
can see Hulk actually there having like.
Speaker 1: Smashed up the city stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But when you say you're wondering, like, oh, what event
took place for probably the first this is gonna sound
bad three to four episodes. I just assume that this
took place after the Thanos snap and they're try like rebuilding.
Then it clicks. It's like, oh, this is way off. No,
we're not there yet.
Speaker 4: This is like it must have been the Avengers, yes, right, yes,
with Loki and everything, which is a big event.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Aliens and and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: But we get a few other characters that are introduced
to and some are I guess gonna come back in
future seasons, and I'm kind of steering just towards this
one episode. This is kind of like one of the
Middler episodes of the season. His name was Stick, and
I get he was there to serve as kind of
like that mentor introductory character to Daredevil, but then you.
Speaker 1: Just have him killing this this.
Speaker 2: Kid and then going off and then having him talk
to one like another student or a pupil or some
other boss man at the end of his episode, and
then he's just gone after trashing apartment.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of weird. Just I feel like
I need a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more just to because they're throwing in this sidelined
storyline all of a sudden, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that I was.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was a little bit torn on that because I
like the idea of this like another blind individual, like
showing him like how to kick ass as a blind person,
right like, like it's, uh, you threw me off. I
like the Santa hat you're throwing on very festive, looks beautiful,
But no, I like the idea of what it was,
and like I kind of just assumed it was going
to go that route of like, yeah, he's he's kind
of a little bit more extreme than like than the
ways that Matt goes about it, and that's would kind
of be like the the driving force that's uprates them,
Like that's like the big difference between the two of them,
Like Matt doesn't want to go to those extreme levels.
And I mean it just it just seems like Stick
is just fall on criminal right like like it like
you just fall on doing criminal, criminal activities, even though
he's like somewhat justifying it in uh in it being
I don't know the right thing to do for Yeah.
Speaker 2: His lime boy hands you a ice cream wrapper bracelet
he made and just crumples it up.
Speaker 1: You're done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I I like those like flashback scenes as well.
I'll just shadow to I. I like the like the
young actor that plays young Matt. I think he does
a pretty good job at like being that super vulnerable boy.
I like the scenes between him and his father. I
just want to quickly shout those out. But yeah, get
getting back to Stick. I also felt like I felt
like they were really going to be showing us like
a lot more with him here. I think he'll be
back at some point, But I just I felt like
by the end of the show it was like, oh yeah,
what happened with Stick? I was a little bit like,
I don't know, just feeling like there was some miss
stuff there. But I also don't think I would have
swapped out like the ending of the show for like
some more Stick stuff, Like it was a lot more
interesting having it with Fisk and Murdoch versus h I
don't know the Stick dynamic, but I'm pretty sure it
was the same actor that plays kill Bill. I'm don't
have to look that up before.
Speaker 2: He was also in Soccer Punch, right, as like the
old mentor guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, You're totally right.
Speaker 1: He's been a few things, Glenn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyways, what else was I gonna say? Oh, and
just talking about the characters with Karen Page and Foggy
and Matt Murdock. I I feel like there's so many
moments in the show when all of our characters are
in peril, like, not just Matt, Karen definitely, because she's
basically like the whistleblower that the big company is coming
out to just murder her essentially and scare her dead.
But I liked all the moments of kind of just
like wholesomeness, like when they're just kind of like working
at the law firm together or just kind of like
having fun together and chatting. Like there's many moments when
there's things that kind of are maybe I don't know,
breaking the team apart, especially later on in the show.
But I really liked all the scenes. I just feel
like they have really good chemistry, all three of them.
You know, Karen and Foggy have some nice moments of
like when they go out drinking, they're just kind of
like bonding, Like there was just some really fun times.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I just think they're all really good together, and.
Speaker 4: Foggy I was thrown off because it's I first saw
this guy in Mighty Ducks. He was the guy that
had like the killer slap shot. I don't know if
you remember that movie, but I don't pash you're in
a Mighty Ducks fan, I feel like you would have been.
Speaker 1: I've never I don't even know if I've ever watched it.
Speaker 4: Well, that's surprising Elden Hinson. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: My first time with him are seeing him on screen
was he's actually in The Hunger Games Mocking j Part one.
Speaker 1: He plays a character called poll Ox.
Speaker 2: No really, he's one of the teammates of Catnus Eberdeen.
Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, for what that's worth. But I really like
this character. He was fantastic. I like how charismatically humorous
he is. He's just great. And I love that episode too,
when he finds out.
Speaker 2: The truth and that really caught me off guard, when
he finds out the truth about Matt Murdock and they
have this whole situation unfolding and it's just it's going
through flashbacks, so their relationship and their friendship that's starting out,
it's just this crazy dynamic and I like where we
get to the end where they they've reconciled and they've
kind of overcame that, and yeah, it's just it's such
an interesting dynamic and Karen obviously doesn't know, and so
I'm really excited to see when that's gonna kind of
become a factor and how that's gonna tie in.
Speaker 4: But I what do you got I gotta throw in there.
Scot Glenn is not Bill from Kill Bill, I have
to That's David Carridine. So he's got the same squaw
about him. Though he's got the same charisma. I can
just picture him with like a big katana, you know,
just dueling Uma Thurman. But yeah, I know, like when
when Foggy finds out about matt secret identity, at first,
I was like a little bit annoyed because it was
reminding me a little bit of you know, good old
Goblet of Fire when Ron's super jealous of and like
I'm not saying Foggy is jealous of that, but it's
just like he's just really like whiny and bitchy towards him,
and like, to me, Matt's just like bleeding out there,
and like fogg He's just like giving him hell, and
it's just like man, this is a little that uh,
this is a little bit too much right now. But
I do like how the main issue he had it
wasn't just that he didn't tell him. It's like they're
like they're lawyers, right, Like they're supposed to be doing
everything by the book, and like like it's big. It's
a big like moral thing that like lawyers have is
to like do it properly and like actually go through
the proper legal procedures, and Matt's basically just throwing that
to the side. And he seems very hypocritical because when
he is Matt Murdoch, like the blind guy with the cane,
that's kind of how he always goes about like doing
the law. Obviously, you know it's right, he knows when
people are lying, which is a little bit of a
cheat code. But I don't know, I feel like he
doesn't doesn't necessarily abuse that power, like like like he
could definitely be using it in more nefarious ways than
he is, which is good in my books. And I
mean there is a lot of gray areas I think
with the Man in the Mask at this point, the
man in the mask being daredevil like just through like
the media coverage, right, like like they think that he
killed a couple of cops or something. I can't remember
exactly where it was at this point in the show,
like what he was being accused of, but from Foggy side,
like this guy's pretty sketchy. And then now it's like
been Matt this whole time. Like also just all the
times that like he says, like you knew I was
lying at any time He's like yeah, pretty much. It's
just like, oh man, that's like super embarrassing for any
little white lie that he might have tried to pull
in the past. And so yeah, I think at first
I was a little bit annoyed by it, but by
the end it was it was all right, and I'm
glad it didn't go on too long, like they did
kind of reconcile fairly quickly, which was which was nice.
But yeah, no, and then, like you said, Karen doesn't know,
and do you think she's gonna find out?
Speaker 3: I think she's gonna find out at some point.
Speaker 2: I'm going to put my chips down that she finds
out in season three. Oh okay, I think they had so
many reveals in season one. I mean, you got Claire
and Foggy, so I don't think we're gonna get anyone else.
Speaker 1: I think I'll just still save it as reveal. M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what do we have here? We got Wesley
we could talk about because I talk about like the crew.
Speaker 1: That's around, like, uh, Dona Frio or Dona Frio say his.
Speaker 3: Name, Dona Frio.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, No, I'm I mean, I think the
show and yeah, just just Fisk in general, I think
the show does a really good job at like setting
up fisk I just like we like we don't even
know who he is for the first couple of episodes,
really like the people don't even say his name, and
then we only really see like Wesley being the guy
that's kind of the in between, and I think they
do a good job of just like a big and
pending doom is coming, which is Fisk. And and yeah,
like Donafrio's I don't even know how he say his name.
I'm gonna keep saying it interchangeably, so I apologize in
advance to anyone that I might offend here.
Speaker 3: But donad Frio he does.
Speaker 4: He just does such a fantastic job. And I think
like the real subtle acting that like the role kind
of demands because I think there's many moments when he's
just kind of like like a lot is being said
through just his like mannerisms and his body language, like
whether like when that one Russian guy like comes in
and ruins the dinner and it's like, oh my god,
like this is this is so we.
Speaker 1: Want to make that deal?
Speaker 3: Come on, No, I want to talk to the bos
then bank this out right now.
Speaker 4: Like it's just oh man, I was just so cringing
in that moment because it's like this guy's just so dead,
Like this guy has no idea what he just did,
but he just got his death sentence essentially.
Speaker 3: But No, I think he does a really good.
Speaker 4: Job at being like showing when he has a lot
of anger that he's holding back or maybe a lot
of like vulnerabilities that he's holding back. And I think
that side of Fisk was something that I was kind
of caught off guard by, Like I don't know, like
even in the Spider Verse version of Fisk, like when
he has I think the flashback is like Vanessa like
finding out like really what he is. Like in that version,
it's just like he's super vulnerable because he's trying to
keep like his personal life and like the villain side
of him completely separate, and he's like, really, I don't know,
he just looks really vulnerable in those moments where in
this show there's very there's many moments when he is
very vulnerable, but it's mostly due to do with Vanessa,
which I think was just something I was not expecting
at all. I just assumed he was going to be,
I don't know, just like an absolute menace and like
scary throughout the whole thing. I just wasn't expecting to
have a couple layers in there. I don't know, how
are you feeling about that? Were you surprised when he
was just all all over Venessa. I feel like at
times I was a little bit annoyed by it, because
it's like, oh man, this guy's so pathetic. He's just
like just moaning and grown in over to Vanessa here.
Speaker 2: But well, yeah, it caught me off guard when they
were kind of showcasing him go through different emotions and
then we've got a flashback of him being like a
kid and just going through all this kind of trauma
and tribulation with his dad. His dad is an absolute
piece of shit, and yeah, he just it's a whole
thing where you think that his parents are both dead
and then oh, you find out the mom is alive
and that.
Speaker 1: Our characters like Ben and.
Speaker 2: Karen are basically finding out, oh that this is the
mom and then I mean Ben pays the price ultimately,
which is pretty shitty. But he's just he's supposed to
be the be all end all, like leading this criminal
organization from the Shadows, and he just starts to get
sloppy and makes bad decisions. It becomes emotionally compromised, and
you have our character there is like his his compatriots
kind of start to call him out on that, but
he's still just disregarding it and ignoring it. And yeah,
sure with Vanessa, he really does open up. And Vanessa's
clearly fucked up as well because the city's exploding and
he's doing bad things and she's just getting turned on
by it and it's just totally eating it all up,
which I just realize is Vanessa Fisk. That actress that
plays her also plays Laura and Man of Steel, Superman's
mother opposite of uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, not that one the mom on on Krypton.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, yeah, I don't know the mum's name,
but interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I just think that he's he's
very different from the the.
Speaker 1: Fisk that we are sorting of the Fisk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess Fisk the Kingpin that we see in Hawkeye.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's where he came. So eleanor I don't
know that one. I like.
Speaker 2: I like this one a lot more than the one
that we've seen in Hawkeye. And this one definitely isn't
terrifying because the time, like it's like his shirts. Yeah,
he's he's definitely. Yeah, he's just more he's more calculated.
He's not as big as he is in Hawkeye. In
the Hawkeye version, he's a lot more bigger. Even in
the Echo, Uh, he's a bit bigger. But this is
definitely a I feel like it's a king pin that
is getting to be He's still learning the ropes to himself, right.
It's like it feels like his origin story almost in
a way. And I think that's a good thing because
you have Daredevil and you have him both opposite sides
of the coin, both developing and both kind of going
on their paths becoming more of who they they are,
and I mean he's dealt with betrayals because his own
team is trying like poison Vanessa killer and all this crazy.
Speaker 1: So there's a.
Speaker 2: Lot going on in his world, and especially too, because
he ends up coming out publicly and opening up publicly
to everyone like Hey, I'm rich and I'm gonna help
the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeada yaha, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: For yeah, for Fisk, I feel I feel like, on
one hand, I like, like how I already said I
thought they set him up really good, and I do
like how what you mentioned there that it like this
is show is called Daredevil, but it really follows like
both Matt and Fisk, like pretty equally, Like obviously more
so Matt, but like there's many moments that were just
following Fisk and even just looking through the episodes, like
a lot of the description is like Fisk threatens to
rip Hell's kitchen apart murder, or Fisk and Murdock wrestle
with the consequences fisk worlds. It's just like the like
there's always Fisk and Matt like in the descriptions for
the episodes, and there's many times that we're following like
just Fisk when he's interacting with the other heads of
the criminal organization, and like, I think it's a really
nice balance of just focusing on both the characters. And
I'm interested in seeing how that advance is going forward,
because you know, Fisk is temporarily dealt with right now,
but he's he's definitely gonna be getting some some big
revenge plays I would imagine in the future here, and
I'm I'm I'm interested in seeing that. And I I liked,
I like the build up. There was still some moments
when I feel like a lot of Fisk's power and
influence is just kind of like like it's just kind
of like given to us, and it's like, okay, yeah, no,
that that's just the way that the world is. And
there's not many moments when we see him like directly
making moves and I'm not saying that's like a bad thing,
because obviously he can be making moves in the shadows,
and there is some like big, smart, big brain plays
that he makes that like would you know, take some
strategy and and some some smart thinking to pull through
and just some diving backstabbing that goes on in the
criminal world. But I feel like I still maybe would
have wanted to see like more of him doing like
more of like the crime stuff, because it's just kind
of like him and Vanessa going on dates and then
like big stuff's going around going on around him and
like there's always just like a thousand bodyguards around him,
and it's just like, Okay, he's the kingpin and that's
just the way that the world is right now. And
I feel like we don't, I don't know, get a
lot of time to like dissect exactly like how like
how how does he even get in this situation?
Speaker 3: Like like he went from murdering.
Speaker 4: His dad as as we young lad to just where
he is now, and it's just that's just the script,
you know, like like that's just where he is. Like
we don't really focus in on like what he took
to get there.
Speaker 1: And uh he went to the farm, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: I guess so, and he just just got big, you know,
he got some nice white suits and uh yeah, just
got them all suited up with armor. But uh no,
And it's a very minor gripe. Like I did really
like all of the like Wesley stuff. We haven't really
talked about him yet, but that was a really really
cool character I really really liked that character. Actually, I
thought he had a really almost like Agent Smith like
like something to him where he just he seemed like
a robot, Like he just seemed like very like analytical
and just I don't know, like no no messing around,
no mucking about with this guy. And I really liked
his dialogue, whether it was with him and Fisk or
him with the other heads or him and Karen, Like
he could be very intimidating without looking like like a
big bad guy with like a big scar or something.
Like he's always wearing a suit and looks really well
clean and everything. And yeah, no, I just really liked
all of his interactions with our characters. And like I
said before, like how we're just kind of dealing with
him at first, and we don't even see Fisk until
a little bit later on. And yeah, no, really interesting character.
And what a fucking idiot though, Like what a way
to go out it. He just has this loaded gun,
leaves on the table. Karen's just as faster than him,
gets the gun. You really think that I was gun
on the table. That's the last mistake he'll ever make.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no kidding, But.
Speaker 3: You know before that, before that he was. He was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get my thoughts after this quick ad break
and we are back.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: From the moment he appears on screen, he was just
a fantastic character right up to his death. How he
plays that that policeman father figure to kind of work
in their advantage.
Speaker 1: It's just so much stuff that he was just doing.
Speaker 2: And when he has his first meeting with Foggy and
Matt that was pretty cool too. Just he's got this
tensity that he brings, and so when he does get killed,
it's very unfortunate because Fisk says like, oh, he was
more than just a henchman. He was like a friend,
and there's this whole kind of like dynamic. But just
the fact that he like takes one of his guards
guns and then just goes off alone. I think it's
just stupid, stupid idea. Stupid idea that guard too. When
Fisk confronts him and he's like, oh, he took my
gun and he wants said that we need to stay there,
and Fisk is like you motherfucker and starts beating the
shit out of him for doing what he was told
to do.
Speaker 1: Just brutal, absolutely brutal, but.
Speaker 4: I likes my last day. He kept working for Fisk
after that. He's very loyal. He to keep working for Fast.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Oh my goodness, Where.
Speaker 3: You want to go next? What was his name? Ben? Ben?
Speaker 1: Ben? That's the one.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of these shows, there's always,
you know, like the the badass cowboy reporter that especially
you know, he's been around the blog for a few times,
so a lot of people kind of know his name
and his reputation, and I don't know, Yeah, I just
really liked his inclusion in the show, and mostly just
his dynamic with Karen. Like I assumed he was going
to be interacting a lot more with our other characters,
but it was mostly just like him and Karen kind
of doing things, like he interacts with Daredevil a couple times,
but for the most part, he's kind of like training
Karen and like bringing her under his wing on like
kind of how to manage this world and how to
stay alive. Most importantly, like I like when he meets
her at the auction house and it's just like all
these other like like he just says, like you're basically
fucked by being here, Like now you have to buy
something to get out of here. It's kind of funny,
and it ended up being the supplies they kind of
needed for the office, so it kind.
Speaker 3: Of worked out. But a lot of it was a
lot of junk.
Speaker 4: But No, I really liked the two of them together,
and I I was like, at first, I was a
little bit annoyed, how like this is what he's been
all about, and then she's getting into it and he's like, no,
we're not doing this anymore. And then and then he
just kind of jumps back on her team. But it
does make sense that, like he knows how dangerous this
is and he's not young and spry like he used
to be, Like he can't just you know, do dumb
shit like this anymore, and he doesn't want her to
go down that route. So it makes sense. But I
like how they kind of I don't know just all
their moments that they're bonding and near like I can't
remember it's the penultimate episode or not, but like when
Karen phones him and just like kind of has that
hard to her, like, you know, thank you for just
kind of being there, and like there's many times that
she can't really rely on Foggy or Matt because Matt's
gone off being Daredevil and Foggy's just insecure and but
hurt over Matt being Daredevil's. So yeah, I thought it
was a really really great character inclusion. And you know,
sad that he died, but it's it's nice that he
got like the big life insurance policy on himself because yeah,
risky business. And then you know, his his his wife
that sadly has dementia kind of losing it, but at
least she's got some some money to be supported by.
And yeah, no, I liked all those moments, like the
scenes between him and his wife, just like I don't know,
like anytime there's like those scenes where it's like a
dementia patient or something when he's like talking to her
and then they have this nice moment and then like
right after she like completely forgets the conversation, just so
like gut wrenching.
Speaker 3: It's just so sad. Reminds me of The Notebook. It
shuts up to that movie.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I really liked all those scenes with
Ben and yeah, wrist and peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked his character a lot. He was really
really good working on screen with Karen. I think that
they had some good chemistry between the two of them,
and it was just need to see this reporter that
has gone through so much chaos and bribery and just
political okay craziness, and so here he is at this
this point of his career and he's trying to get
he's trying to be there for his wife, and then
Karen Key's pulling him back in and it ultimately pays,
I mean, he pays with his life. And that scene
was just so intense when he's doing his thing and
he's gonna type up the truth bomb and then Fisk
is just sitting there and then you think the conversation
is going good, but he's like, you.
Speaker 1: Put my mother into this, my mother, and then he.
Speaker 2: Fucking dolphin dives at Ben starts choking a life out
of him.
Speaker 1: Jesus so I'd expect to death. But I really really
like Ben. I liked him a lot.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, man, KEM thinkin just he just goes
full aggressive mode and just really pops off. I like
how at the again, can't really remember if it's a
penultimate episode, it might have been a little bit before
that when he's fighting no boo. I think that's the
Ninja's name, I can't really remember. No Boo is the
guy that dresses up in like the ninja robes and.
Speaker 1: Rights and then he lights him one.
Speaker 4: Fine you got no Boo, So like during that sequence,
and then when Fisk is like after where he's just
beaten on Daredel and he's just doing like the big
on like gorilla monkey fist thing, it's the same move
that he did in Spider Verse when he killed the
like Spider Man, you know, like the first Peter Parker.
So it's just a good signature move that I because
it's just like like it's just a power move, right,
It's like a Donkey Kong type level, uh, you know
move from like Smash Bros or something.
Speaker 3: So it was nice to see that showcase there.
Speaker 4: And and then when he just strangles Ben or the
the nice iconic uh killing of that Russian guy with
the with the car door and just fucking removes his
whole head.
Speaker 3: It's just so vicious.
Speaker 4: And that's what's nice, is like when you see him
like he is clean, you know, like he's wearing suits,
but like you see scenes like that and you're like,
oh man, this guy's like the devil, Like like he
is evil. So I like when those I don't know,
just just seeing both sides of it, and then of
course seeing that, like you know, he kind of had
that in him since he was a young kid because
of just the trauma that he went through from his
dad and then his dad beating on his wife or yeah,
his mom, and then and then he just has enough and.
Speaker 3: It's just going at him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes and I'm pretty freaking hard. Geez Louise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, well said, where else should we steer to
right now?
Speaker 3: Any other characters that we haven't talked about yet?
Speaker 1: I could talk about Claire What do you what do
you think about her?
Speaker 2: And how she just kind of like found found him
in the dumpster and took him in and became kind
of like as private as his private doctor he was,
she was the healer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I really like Claire. I this oh my gosh, what's
her name, Rosario Dawson?
Speaker 1: Yep, you got Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just like her in general. I feel like most
things that I see she's she's really great in. And
I really liked the situation that like Matt kind of
gets himself in for her to like just be in
that care. I think that they have really great chemistry together,
and she's just really funny with some one liners and
really going out of her way to like just always
kind of patching him up for the brink of death
like that that's gonna be a lot of like mental
taxing as well as like all of her first aid
kids are gonna be gone. She's probably gonna keep stealing
stuff from the hospital to keep this guy alive.
Speaker 1: And he keeps reopening his stitches too, fuck man.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no, he's he's not a good patient.
He does not you know, wait to be fully recovered.
But I liked how that's like she is willing to
do all that because like she feels like she believes
in what the Daredevil is doing. So this is kind
of her her way of like helping out the cause
and her just living you know, in Hell's Kitchen like
a lot of the other characters that were with but
like just singing like the bad side of it. And
I yeah, I like how her and Matt are kind
of button heads once, like she sees more of like
the intense side of what it takes to really go
about like with doing what he does. And that's what's
an interesting thing about the character is like it's not
like he's just doing it because this is what's required
of him. Like he does enjoy it, you know, like
this is kind of a release for him. And that's
that's tying back to like just his father, right, and
like like his father was a fighter, and this is
just like a way to kind of vent out his
emotions and whatnot. And it's just like it's it's therapy essentially, right,
just like exercising is. But like beaten on people I
guess is as well, especially you know, like human traffickers
and like people that really deserve it, like just bad people.
So I liked how they kind of were button heads
at times, but at the end of the day, like
they still found some some mutual agreeances I guess on
how to go about it. And but no, I like
Claire a lot. I liked, oh, I forget his name,
but the nice gentleman that found Matt in the dumpster,
like the neighbor, the little Spanish boy. So yeah, no,
I like the whole dynamic of him and Claire.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think the moment that they have their their meeting and.
Speaker 2: They just had that tension and you know that it's
obviously kind of like a love.
Speaker 1: Thing going on a little relationship, I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: And I thought that, like it was tough for me
to kind of figure it out because I thought, well,
Karen definitely seems to have feelings for him, but then
you have Foggy and Karen that.
Speaker 1: Really hit it off well, but then Foggy goes back
with his X.
Speaker 2: So it's just there's a whole like love triangle, just
situation going on with all these characters.
Speaker 4: I like a Foggy He's mentioned too, how like match
just a lady killer, like all the ladies just love.
Speaker 3: That, you know, it makes sense.
Speaker 4: He's Karen's obviously, you know, googly eyes for him when
they first meet, and then Claire and then you know,
fast forward when we meet Tatiana.
Speaker 1: So that's right, Yeah, lady killer. It's a lady killer.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm I want to say she was
Claria was in Iron Fist, but I can't fully remember,
but I'm excited to see her come back becau. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love for Zara DAWs and she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Zombielaing to Soca like she's just such a fantastic actress.
Speaker 3: The Rundown Run Down.
Speaker 1: Fuck. I love that movie.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 4: Okay, the other I guess just factions like the Criminal Underworld.
I like how they kind of just have their like specialties,
Like I like the Chinese lady with her her blind
workers that they're just like perfect, Like Heroin I was
fuck lab workers, Yeah, really fucked up. How Like it's
not just like they're born blind, Like it's literally like
a chemical just burn on their eyes. But I guess
it's effective, right because they can't see anything, so they're
not really good.
Speaker 2: But they believe in their purpose too, right, because what
did she say? Like I gave them purpose and when
Daredevil kind of fucked it up, she was like, oh,
you took away their purpose in life, Like how they're
going to be They're going to be miserable.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of.
Speaker 4: A life that is though, you're just kind of a
you know, a pawn at that point. But uh, I digress,
but it Yeah, with all that being said, I still
like just seeing like the different I guess specialties that
the factions had, like the the Russians and just their
their brute their brute soldier mercenary type outfits and then uh,
you got Nobu and it's just like Ninja's. So yeah,
it was kind of interesting to see how that was unfolding.
And I kind of assumed that they're all just going
to be stabbed each other in the back. That's usually
how these things go when you got criminal. I mean,
we just watched The Penguin. That's kind of what that
show is all about. Just people stab each other in
the back. And I'm always interested in some nice criminal masterminding.
So yeah, I liked how that was set up. And
I can't remember what the like the money guy's name was.
He's just like was it the right owl?
Speaker 1: That is what I see here on owl? Yeah? Im owls,
Yeah that's his name. Owl.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, I thought it was. I thought it
was something more European. But anyways, I liked his character
how he was just kind of this like I don't know,
Sneavely Weasley, little like bankerman who like, yeah, I would
never throw a punch in his life, but he's just
like the money guy. So he's kind of cocky and
arrogant in that sense. And I don't know he was,
I say, I like him, but like I liked his
use in here. I wouldn't really need more of him,
I don't think going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he I thought he was gonna be quickly
done when Daredevil found him in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: But that was not the case. We got Stick instead.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think he pops up at interesting times
as a character, and that we learned that Okay, him
and Madame gow I think was her name, they had
basically orchestrated this whole okay like turncoat thing against Fisk
and his compatriots. So that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's he's definitely just.
Speaker 2: A loud mouth, kind of important semi important character in
this show. And yeah, the other characters that are with
him too, like Nobu, I thought he was pretty cool,
but again he got he was expendable as per Fisk,
and so I mean, who else do we have here?
Actually we do have the tailor who's like making the
clothing for Fisk as well. Oh yeah, but he wasn't
necessarily like super super bad, even though they kind of
apply it. It just turns out like, Okay, he's just
doing this because he's kind of forced. His hand is
forced and locked in the situation by Fisk.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, he definitely is like a prisoner in that situation.
Seems like Fisk is someone close to him, so he's
just kind of doing doing what he has to.
Speaker 2: An interesting thing about that character, or I guess the
actor and hence my nickname is his name is Matt Gerald,
and he's actually from Avatar.
Speaker 1: He plays like the main grunt.
Speaker 2: Ah he says a few times, and he comes back
in Avatar too, I believe is one of the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like the second in command to uh whatever
Orange course. Yeah, that's right. Seeing him in this role,
I was like, Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: He's the he's making Daredevil suit, which it is just great.
Speaker 3: I can totally picture him now, So yeah, that's funny.
Oh I was gonna something.
Speaker 4: Oh, I really liked all the moments when you have
Matt kind of just describing like what he sees in
the world, like a world on fire, which is like
very fitting for the Daredevil character, just just from great
imagery there.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they're just obviously very fitting for the character
called Daredevil.
Speaker 4: And in Hell's Kitchen, like it's all just very it
all just fits really well. And I like seeing I mean,
we already kind of talked about his suit, but once
he gets like the actual Daredevil suit at the end,
it's just so badass with the with his baton things
that he has. It's just, yeah, really really sick character.
And obviously when you have a really well like choreographed,
like hand to hand martial arts sequences, like it's yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna pretty much love those sequences. That's
why I love like shunk Chie so much. Like there's
a lot of just some great fight choreography, hand to
hand combat in there and in here. Yeah, it was
just really really well done and just really well choreographed, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with the chography was great. Every
time you know he's being trapped by cops, those fight
scenes are always super super fun. And you get this
crazy scene where he ends up beating the guy that
he that Matt Murdock had to protect. So Foggy and
Matt were hired by Fisk and Wesley to go and
defend this guy who was obviously bad, and they managed
to sort of get him out, and then he he
is out on the streets and then so Matt turns
into Daredevil and goes and chases him and comes at
him and then he makes him reveal the name Fisk,
and then the guy's like, I shouldn't have done that,
and then just smacks his head on a fucking pull
And I was just shocked when I saw this, Like,
holy shit, Like this show has varying degrees of hitting
that rated R.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I gasp in that scene. I like knew
it was coming, but I still just, oh my gosh.
I'm like, they don't actually show it, right, I can't remember.
I can't remember.
Speaker 3: But then yep, they.
Speaker 4: Show it, and uh, I mean he should have just
gave him all the information if he was just gonna
do that, right, Yeah, basically, come on, if you're gonna
go out reveal everything. But nonetheless, oh, I just want
to talk about Matt and his dad again, and just
like the flashbacks of Little Matt, and I really really
liked all those sequences. I liked how they I think
they did a good job at showing like that the
dad like he understands what he's doing is like morally wrong,
and he wants to like be a good example for
his son, but he's also balancing like this is also
how he gets money to like, you know, support his son,
and he just really wants a better life for young
Matt there, and he just really feels like a loving
father even though he's kind of stuck in like the
criminal world, you know, throwing fights. And I just really
liked how that little arc for that character went. And
when he you know, just put all the money on me,
I'm gonna fucking kill this guy, and then he does it,
and then he's running for his life afterwards and just
puts it all in Matt's name, And yeah, no, he
got what was coming to him, you know, the bad
guys got him. But no, I really really liked all
of those flashback sequences and I don't know, I I
think it was a good amount of them too. Like
it really I think did a good job at like
showing certain lessons and like foundational growth that like young
Matt would have got that carries into like Matt Murdock
the lawyer, and it just I don't know, I like
it really feels like those two characters are one and
the same and like Matt is who he is because
a lot of those sequences that happened between him and
his dad back in the day. And yeah, I just
I thought all of the scenes were really good and
I thought the young the young boy actor was it
was was good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well said trying to think what else is
there too to cover?
Speaker 3: Kind of hit all the big what kind of hit
all the big things?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh the one Russian guy that was like kind of
forced to work with Matt. You know, Matt was like
trying to keep him alive as much.
Speaker 3: As possible, and he's just like, suck my dick.
Speaker 4: Then he goes out dies, Matt like resuscitates him, brings
him back to life, and he's just still not wanting
to cooperate with him.
Speaker 3: Uh. Kind of a funny character.
Speaker 4: I like how like in the end, like he did
end up revealing some things for him, but uh yeah,
that guy was sour, very very vicious and the flashback sequences,
but when him and his brother are in like basically
the Russian Gulags and they like rip the rib off
of like the dead guy, like that's like their weapon
to get out. Oh my god, man, I could like
feel it in my own ribs when he was doing that.
It was it was gnarly. So good job at showcasing
how hard those characters were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were going pretty hard. Jeez, Luise, Oh my goodness.
But yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: They were fun characters. Fortunate the one getting axed and popped,
and yeah, the other one who's just kind of like
going on this killing spree, and yeah, Daredevil kind of
saves him. And then you get this, as you said,
this reluctant team up after all this like very toxic
conversation inside this warehouse, and it was that whole scene
was crazy because that's when obviously you have the cops
killing cops with fist giving the orders. But then even
when they have the one cop who went in their
bag like just to check it out, and he's tied
up to the post, and you got Matt.
Speaker 1: And the one Russian guy just kind of like leaving.
You then have the SWAT coming in.
Speaker 2: They're like they know how to play it, right, They
got to blame this on Daredevil and make Daredevil the
bad guys. So they're like, oh, no survivors and they
just pop the cop.
Speaker 1: And it's like, holy shit, like this is just crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he knew he was fucked when he's like, oh,
officers dead, Like what, Yeah, you don't want to hear
that before live ye Oh my goodness, what else do
we got here?
Speaker 1: I can't think of.
Speaker 4: Anything else, anything else really to talk about.
Speaker 1: Still my notes.
Speaker 2: Well, so in closing, for me, this this show has
been an absolute delight. It's been a complete surprise, and
the attention to the characters is great, and just being
able to start off as a pretty much just like
an origin story has been awesome.
Speaker 1: I really really like it, and I think.
Speaker 2: Charlie Cox has a wonderful job as Matt Murdoch, and
I think that.
Speaker 1: It's it's just been a good time, and I'm excited
the fact that.
Speaker 2: We got two more seasons and I might I know
we're not gonna cover it. We're not going to cover Defenders,
even though Matt Murdock is in there. I think I
might watch it just for my own personal benefit, just
to get a little bit more Matt Murdoch. I just
see how he's kind of connected with all these other characters.
But yeah, ultimately, I'm gonna I'm gonna give this season
one a. I'm gonna go ten out of ten, just
because I really really like it so far. I think
it's absolute banger and I just don't have any problems
with it.
Speaker 1: I just I really really like it.
Speaker 2: Actually, No, no, no, I remind myself nine point five out
of ten in the middle of the season Stick episode.
Speaker 1: I just don't like how it's super super just out
of place.
Speaker 2: I feel like it needs to play more of a
connection to the main story. I don't like when it's like,
to me, it feels incomplete because they're banking on this
being a season two thing, and it's like, no, season
one should just be a complete whole season one and
I think that they're trying to establish that by having
Stick be the mentor instructor for Matt Murdoch, but you
still have this dynamic of him going to some bigger
higher boss or pupil or something like that. It's like, ah, well,
that's that's a season two thing or season three thing.
This season one needs to be just a complete cycle
circle story. So if that makes sense, Yeah, great show.
Speaker 4: Yeah this was of surprise to me. I knew this
show was going to be amazing because I had seen
most of this first season, and I you know, like,
although I had seen it before, as I was going
along like it was, it was still very fresh to me.
It wasn't ntil like after the moments happened, it's like, oh, okay,
I kind of remember this happening, but I couldn't really
remember what was going to be happening, and so it
was a nice fresh experience for sure. Again, And yeah,
I don't think it's a perfect season one for me.
I think I have a little bit of holdbacks with
some things around Fisk and it's really like nitpicky stuff
like how I was mentioning of just like he just
seems like he would be like he is the kingpin,
but we don't see a lot of like what.
Speaker 3: Got him there, And I.
Speaker 4: Don't know if this would have been better or worse
if we got more of that. It's just like in
those moments, that's how I was feeling, and some of
the moments when he's really like losing his shit over Vanessa.
Speaker 3: And just being pathetic.
Speaker 4: I think it's acted well, but it just for me,
it seemed a little bit corny, a little bit cheesy,
but I was still still very very solid. I'm with
you with the stick stuff as well. I think they
could have done a little bit more this season with it.
So I think I'll also give it a nine point
five because it is still fantastic. We didn't really mention
him a lot. Charlie Cox but like he's just he's
so fantastic as mad here and I can't, like it
must be so difficult playing like a blind person just
for like not looking around and like just trying to
fight those urges when you would like normally, you know,
discourse with someone by looking at them, like just I
think he does a good job at all of the mannerisms,
and obviously he's he looks like he can kick ass,
and he looks like he's gotten his ass kicked.
Speaker 3: They do a good job with the makeup and everything.
Speaker 4: And there's many moments when they just show, like especially
when Claire is like stitching them up and stuff. I'm like,
this guy should be dead like tonight, like he like
he is. They found him in a dumpster like stab wounds,
Like I don't know if he's like Wolverine that he
just gets like crazy regeneration, but it seems like he
should be on bed rest for like months with some
of these beings he gets. But hey, Murdocks never stay down, right,
they get back up. So yeah, I liked all that stuff,
and I think I may I might be wrong, but
I think Punisher is in season two, so I'm I'm
very excited to see Frank Castle and of course John
Bernthal's performance because he was really really good from what
I had seen in the first season of Punisher. So yeah,
looking forward to it. Glad we're finally on this journey
kitchen together.
Speaker 1: Yes, very very happy about this.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean you can come back and tune
into our season two retro when we get to that.
Speaker 1: But again, these are gonna be dropping.
Speaker 2: I think right away on the patron feed, but I
think we're gonna be aiming for monthly. So season two
probably be January, and then season three will be February,
and then March is uh yeah go time, so born again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so oh that is it.
Speaker 2: That concludes our first episode one one season one retrospective
of Daredevil.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: We're excited to come back with our next one, so
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Speaker 1: Have a good one bye,