WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.919 Hey, your love tester's busted. Go on and nickelback. 2 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:06.679 Hey buddy, have one on a half. 3 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:14.240 Hey, hey, this drink is delicious and my flood feels looser. 4 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.199 What do you call it? Well, it's called a flaming mo. 5 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.960 It's called a flaming moh. That's right, the flaming mo. 6 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:22.359 My name is Mo, and I invented it. That's why 7 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.000 it's called a flaming mole. What what are you looking at, 8 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:25.359 Homer R. 9 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:25.920 It's a flaming mo. 10 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:26.280 I'm mo. 11 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:46.960 Four finger discount, dude. 12 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.439 Everybody, welcome to four Finger Discount. And we are all 13 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.359 incredibly excited because this week we've gone all the way 14 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.119 back to season three. We thoughts the end of the year, 15 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:49.920 at the beginning of the year, depending on when you 16 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:52.520 listen to this episode, we thought we'll not do a celebration. 17 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:55.200 Let's not do a season twenty review. Let's save those 18 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:57.640 for twenty twenty five, an exciting year that's going to be. 19 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.920 Let's do a classic review. One of the all timers 20 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.960 of The Simpsons is in the top ten list of 21 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.680 so many online magazines and online websites like IgM and 22 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.040 Always people who constantly review the Simpsons. It is flaming Mos. 23 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:12.760 I'm Dano and I am Guy. 24 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.319 Yes, uh, it's season twenty is twenty twenty five's problem? 25 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.760 As Dan I said, we're going to either wrap up 26 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.280 the year or begin the year, because he was doing 27 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.400 a lot of calculus before we actually push the big 28 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.640 record button. Some of you hearing this in twenty twenty four, 29 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:31.000 someone twenty twenty five. But whatever year and whatever time, 30 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:35.560 whatever space, whatever frame of mind you're in, flaming Mos 31 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.319 it just makes everything better. I don't happiness, It's just 32 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.480 a flaming moad. I don't understand the science of it, 33 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:43.000 but flaming Mos makes it good. 34 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.319 Well, I just thought, what's a New Year's e? Theened 35 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.239 episode of the Simpsons, and this is not New Year's 36 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.159 E theme, but I thought, what are people doing during 37 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:55.159 the holiday season getting boozy? So let's do a bousy episode. 38 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.920 So flaming Mos. And I was surprised we hadn't already 39 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.000 gone back and revisited this one. To be completely honest. 40 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.840 For a guy on Springfield, that is true. And we 41 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:03.760 got on Springfield here, and as I was watching this, 42 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.079 I thought, I'm going to find somewhere where Ken Brockman, 43 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.360 says Guy and then say I'm Ken Blackman and this 44 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.960 is guy on Springfield. I can somehow I make that work. 45 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:12.719 We're going to call this guy on Springfield again. There's 46 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.759 not much you can't make work. So look, I imagine this 47 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.039 could happen. I'm pretty sure that it's some stage in 48 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.280 the many many episodes of The Simpsons and the many 49 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:23.199 that Kent. 50 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.199 That Ken Brockman has appeared on that Yeah, he has 51 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:29.240 said the word guy. At some stage. You can do 52 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:30.639 your editing magic. 53 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:32.280 Or what I can do is I can get a 54 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:35.639 word that begins with and then just add it to that. 55 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.479 I you guy, You're just you're making it too complicated. 56 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.280 But we're here just like a flaming moment, which seems 57 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.520 like a very complicated dream. It does, indeed. Yeah, but 58 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.439 we're here to review flamingos, as we said. And yeah, 59 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.199 I'm so excited because I I always do this. I 60 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.199 forget how good these episodes are because I don't revisit 61 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.360 the older ones anywhere near as often as I should. 62 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:56.800 I think when you've got kids, that doesn't help because 63 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:58.759 the kids always want to watch their shows. I mean, 64 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.800 the kids do watch the Simpsons lot out, but all 65 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.800 of the Simpsons. I still find it's funny when I 66 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.599 always talked about my mum's band of the Simpsons until 67 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:08.280 I was six, and I watch the Simpsons now and 68 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.599 go I kind of get it now. 69 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.719 Well even yeah, even in this episode, I mean there's 70 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.000 a bit of sort of I won't say adult content. 71 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.000 But not a kids This isn't a kid's episode behind 72 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.319 you mean, oh, absolutely not. I mean I have no 73 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.319 idea what's going on, even early on. 74 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.520 With Bart walking past the TV when it's on Springfield, 75 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:31.360 which is you know, pretty racy, one might say rybald infotainment. 76 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.719 I mean to hear a young young boys whoa DNA? 77 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.879 I mean ten, So he's entering that phase of his life. 78 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.759 But he still finds that he says, all teena and 79 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.280 then he says other girls are trying to kiss me. 80 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.479 I guess because they're the girls from school there. Yeah, yes, 81 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.319 exactly that you don't have that screen remove of Well, no, 82 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.879 they're women on TV. That's wholly different. Yeah. So what 83 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:57.639 do you think of Flamy Mo's overall though, because can 84 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.800 very easily taken if you watch this episode, be seen 85 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.280 as a villain. Right, he stole Homer's idea and when 86 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.639 I was a kid, I always thought when I watched this, 87 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.039 Moe's the bad guy and he does bad things. But 88 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.680 at least they established at the start that Moe's business 89 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:16.040 is really bad, really devastated, so it gives some justification 90 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.000 to his desperation as to why he would do so. 91 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.639 Doesn't make it right, No, at least they explained someone 92 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.959 like Moe who desperately needs his business to thrive, why 93 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.639 he would do this. And then by the end, Moe 94 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.240 was willingly going to sell the idea and give half 95 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.000 the profits to Homer. So that was his what would 96 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.360 you call he's not his hero moment, but he's his 97 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:37.959 face turn his face turned. Yes. But by the end 98 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:39.639 of the episode, you're thinking, oh, okay, he is a 99 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:41.720 good friend to Homer in because he was going to 100 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.639 do the right thing by the end. That's true. That's true. 101 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.000 I mean, yeah, look at I think it is very 102 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:52.399 easy to view Moe was the villain in this episode. 103 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.759 Certainly you're saying about the escape patch, where you're saying, oh, 104 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.360 his business is not doing all that great. 105 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.639 I don't know if it necessarily justifies at all that much. 106 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.920 I mean, he really jumps in thevery very quickly say no, no, 107 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.319 it's blamy mo. It's made by mole because I'm me, 108 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:12.079 I mow and I made it. It's that was a 109 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.079 pretty good mole on my part actually, I mean even 110 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:18.879 by my standard savvy businessman, savvy business man. Yeah, and 111 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.040 there's no room for friends in business. How many? 112 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.279 How many times have we heard since Jerry McGuire came 113 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.199 out in ninety six, it's not show friends, it's show 114 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:27.519 business exactly. 115 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:29.680 So yeah, what do you think overall that of just 116 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.639 the story of this new invention comes around, everyone's just 117 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:35.000 like that, it's the flavor of the month. 118 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.600 Well, you're speaking to the right man here, because you 119 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.680 know how many times have just like limited various Yeah, I. 120 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.439 Mean, I mean there was no limit. There was no 121 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.279 limited with this, but it was. But it's the hot 122 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:49.879 new thing. Well, it's like when I drive down We've 123 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.319 mentioned before, you said they've got a great selection of 124 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:53.959 foods or coffees or whatever. But the place near the 125 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.000 Coals and Shannon Avenue here, the little cafe, the ever 126 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.040 we drive past it, the line is out the door, 127 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.240 and I'm thinking, is it that good or just the 128 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.759 idea of I want to be part of the crew. 129 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.279 I think it's partly I want to be part of 130 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.000 the crew, although I think that place has kind of 131 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.519 earned its Bonafard's by now. I mean, if you want 132 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.480 me to speak specifically about that place. Look, it's tiny, 133 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.079 but it does make good coffee. The staff are always really, 134 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.079 really friendly. They've got a good selection of grub. It's 135 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.199 like and and a nice place out the back to 136 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:23.759 go and sit. I mean it's like, you know, partly 137 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:28.199 market garden, partly nice place to spend a nice sunny day. 138 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.360 So yeah, I mean they're they're doing well, but yeah, 139 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.040 I get part but partly Yeah. Well, sorry, I had to. 140 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.720 I had to street team for Funk. I'm gonna spoil 141 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:37.160 one of my trivia questions. I've got a lot of 142 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:38.759 them for this one. Here. It's not they've got a 143 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:43.199 bernad on the front gate. You know. I enjoyed, well 144 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.160 it may I. 145 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:46.959 Enjoyed this episode so much that I actually didn't write 146 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.480 down that many trivia questions. I was like, really, okay, yeah, 147 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:52.720 it's like I'm just enjoying going with the flow of 148 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.720 flaming those. Having said that, there's a new cafe just 149 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.639 across the street from Funk naricoles. 150 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.160 It used to wait out the recipe. It used to 151 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:06.839 it used to be got hunk. I went there because 152 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.279 I was driving pass was like, you know what. 153 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.680 After we recorded, Yes, I was like, I'm gonna go 154 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:15.000 get a kebab from Sam's in town driving Sam and 155 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:15.360 it's like. 156 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.720 Under new management and it looks like it's I'll go 157 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.160 and try it. It was okay. 158 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.480 I think I've read something the other days like it'd 159 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.680 be more disappointing than when you stray from your old takeaway. 160 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:29.800 There are many things watch the point. I actually said 161 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.639 this to Nicola the other day. I said, I pulled 162 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.879 myself up quite often on the podcast now saying there's 163 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.000 nothing worth actually know what. There are many things worse, 164 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.319 but it's still very annoying. And you're right though, when 165 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.319 the price of my favorite place to get supeaki from 166 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.160 it's just gone through the roof to the point where 167 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.279 I'm going, I don't want to spend fifty bucks on 168 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.160 two chickens souv larkis. It just seems like a lot 169 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.480 of money when all you're getting is the soup larky, 170 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.360 like one of us each, you know. So we went 171 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:56.000 somewhere else and I went, it's it's good, and you 172 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.959 know what, it's fourteen dollars less, and you know what, 173 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:00.279 I'm going to go here for now on it. But 174 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:04.120 I feel like I'm cheating on the place. But you know, understandable, 175 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.040 fourteen dollars is a lot of money twenty twenty four 176 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.199 for people who want to buy some bread and some milk, 177 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:12.720 and that's it. That's what you're going to pull it. Yeah. 178 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.959 I like the idea of, oh, it's the new joint 179 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.839 in town, because we've all been susceptible to that. Yeah, 180 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.360 the new nightclub, the new nightclub, the new pub, the 181 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:21.800 new restaurant, whatever. 182 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.120 This could be the place, this could be this could 183 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:25.399 be it. 184 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.439 Yeah, this could define my identity. This could be my regular, 185 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.439 This could be my cheers, this could be my mos, 186 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:32.159 this could be my place. 187 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.720 And after about eighteen months two years ago, why are 188 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.919 we still coming here? It's not that great? Is there? 189 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:39.279 Is there a new place? It was a new place 190 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.000 opening up in a few months. Let's try that place. Well, 191 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:42.200 let's try that place. Absolutely. 192 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:46.360 I mean not to name names or malign establishments, but 193 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.840 you know, I was talking about steakhouses in Geelong with 194 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.480 the you know friends and loved Ones the other night. 195 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.279 And there's a place that used to be the steak 196 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:55.440 Joint in Geelong. 197 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:01.200 Now it's the most expensive, and people are going a 198 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.279 stage joint that I do not particularly want to free. Yeah, 199 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.360 it feel like they're living off the rep a little bit. 200 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.799 Absolutely, and more people, more and more people are saying 201 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:12.559 there's more and more people are like, oh, yeah, you 202 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:17.639 know what, it's not that great, So times change state joint. 203 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:19.879 He's trying to put down the competition early. He's opening 204 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:23.639 up a new state joint. That's I'm planting c. 205 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:29.080 Yeah, but everybody jumps on the bandwagon. I mean, yeah, 206 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.360 we saw the cues went around the block for flaming mos. 207 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.360 Most just regular old modes. Good for Mo, even he 208 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:36.960 done a bad thing, I still felt nice that Most 209 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.159 finely getting something because he's always been there when Homer 210 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.080 needed him. Right, that's true, and I get that he's 211 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.919 still on Homer's idea, But Homer has relied on Mo 212 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:49.320 for many Granted, Moment profited from Homer's alcoholism, but he 213 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.159 was an ear for Homer to vent his frustrations on 214 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.399 and when Homa just wanted to get stuff out. Has 215 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.159 always been the one I think, you know, I think 216 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.679 most first line, this is what's the matter Homer. That's 217 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.639 he's the guy that Homer goes to talk to and 218 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.360 get his feelings out because he's got no one else. 219 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.279 He can't talk to his friends, he's embarrassed, you can't 220 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.240 talk to his family, doesn't want to talk about his 221 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.000 family to his family. So because I mean, therapy might 222 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:11.840 be the answer, but he goes to most, as many 223 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.840 men do, and the bartenders. 224 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.720 That's your unofficial that's your unofficial shrink right there. I mean, 225 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.240 your partender has to be many, many things, probably cheaper. 226 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:21.600 Oh yeah, yeah, you've got to be a priest. You've 227 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.879 got to be a shrink. You've got to be manner 228 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.840 of confidants. 229 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.480 Yeah, so I thought, you know, most somewhat deserved this for. 230 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.639 A while, may deserve success, but you know, do you 231 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:35.080 deserve success if it is ill gotten? The thing is, 232 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.000 though he obtained by fraudulent or even or semi shady. 233 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.639 But he did still the idea. And as you said before, 234 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:42.759 it was a very spur of the moment. It's it's 235 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:44.519 like he made the decision then and there. He didn't 236 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.159 think this, This wasn't a well plotted out, I'm going 237 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.519 to steal the idea that this was. I'm going to 238 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.399 take advantage of the situation. And as he thought about 239 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.679 it throughout the episode, it's like he still wanted Homer 240 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:57.840 as a friend, but he couldn't turn down the money. 241 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.000 And I want let's get to some of my favorite 242 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.360 So I want to talk about on my favorites now. 243 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.440 My favorite favorite moments. One that I really liked, and 244 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:08.559 it's not necessarily the funny moments that I liked throughout 245 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.399 this one. It's the ones where Homer is saying, you 246 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.200 just lost yourself a customer, right, And as that's happening 247 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.720 always people are trying to talk over home. Yes, so 248 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.000 Moe's getting lost in all this new business that he's 249 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.240 underware that he's not just losing his customer, he's losing 250 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.559 one of his best friends. Yes, And I thought that 251 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.519 moment there, I've never really appreciated it so much in 252 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.679 as much as I did for this review, where Homer's 253 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:32.799 just being drowned out in the business and the sound 254 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:35.200 of all these people, when really, if Moke could hear him, 255 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.759 maybe it would have gotten through to him. Because Moe 256 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.440 couldn't hear because of all the people screaming, but he's yeah, 257 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:41.960 you've just lost yourself a customer. I just I really 258 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.720 like that scene. It's a good point. Yeah, I'd never 259 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.919 really thought of it that way until you elucidated it 260 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.399 so eloquently. I knew, because it wasn't until Collett said, 261 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.799 you know what, you probably should give him half the money. 262 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.120 He followed it pretty quickly. It's not he fought against him, 263 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.639 but no, no way, Yeah I deserve it. It's just like, 264 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.639 you're right, the moment you actually sat down and thought 265 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.720 about it, you went, yeah, right, yeah, I've gotta do 266 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:06.120 the right thing. 267 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:10.440 Yeah, it wasn't the afterglow of spending a little time 268 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:11.480 with Collette. 269 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.879 A happy hour. I was like happy hour, What a man. 270 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:17.000 But let's talk about Collette. So there's a lot of 271 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.720 discussing with Collette. So she was written to be the 272 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.840 Diane because this is a lot of Cheers parodies. 273 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:28.679 Threat well, a very very deliberate and yeah direct Cheers 274 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:30.320 parody with the opening credits. 275 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:32.480 Yeah again, another one of those things that when you're 276 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.639 a kid, you don't really realize what's going. It's just 277 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.159 a really catchy song. But it's one of my favorite 278 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:38.320 parodies of the Simpsons of it don one of my 279 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.679 favorite songs of the Simpsons ever did this one and the 280 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.919 words are written by Jeff Martin, just a parody of 281 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.919 the Cheers theme song. But Collette, right, So she was 282 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.440 written to be Diane, who left the show maybe like 283 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:48.360 season four or five. 284 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.360 About five seasons in yeah, show long leaves Cheers to 285 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.600 see a movie career. She'd been in a few movies 286 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:59.840 prior to prior to be starring in Cheers. But Cheers, 287 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:01.799 of course, is the one that really sort of kickstarts 288 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:02.320 it for her. 289 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.360 Yes, okay, And so there was a lot more to 290 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.879 the story here between mo and Diane, who was going 291 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:09.919 to play the Sam role. She was going to play 292 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:14.399 the Diane role Collette and I say, Moan Diam Collete sorry, 293 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.679 And they left it out because they said it just 294 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.000 it just didn't quite work. I do feel like there 295 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.320 is an element of when you watch this going it 296 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.399 feels like this is meant to be something, but like 297 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.840 it doesn't quite It's like they couldn't just completely remove it. 298 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:29.559 They had to include it in some way for the 299 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:32.639 story to work. I get where you're coming from. I mean, personally, 300 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:33.759 I very much liked it. 301 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:38.639 When she first showed up, she's, yeah, she's what's the 302 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.279 word auditioning for the job, she's applying for the job. Yeah, 303 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.440 but also being very sort of smart man. Whether that's 304 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.480 very Diane Chambers. But I mean, if we're talking about 305 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:48.360 favorite moments that. 306 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.759 Whole what's the club mo bartender's do it to your 307 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.240 puke or something like that's questions what did I say? 308 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.399 It's like coartenders do it to your bath? Do it 309 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.600 to your bath? Yes? No, no, above that storeboard drollery. 310 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.240 And then I felt very sickcomy banter that bit, didn't it. Yeah, 311 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.559 but also the high end kind of sitcom banter. Yeah, 312 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.120 but Cheers specialized in. I mean, yeah, when he's talking 313 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.320 about a better about I prefer tight beak. It's in 314 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:22.200 someplace hot. I really enjoyed that. Now, apparently I don't 315 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.279 know if this if the character of coll it was 316 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.279 was written for Catherine O'Hara actually performed something they decided 317 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.759 it's not quite working the whole lot. Yeah, apparently she's 318 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:35.960 still credit at the end Katherine O'Hara in the credits. 319 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.840 Oh okay, I didn't see her name at all because 320 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.039 it was actually all the character was actually voiced in 321 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.960 the end by a star or a cosman. 322 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.519 Was a Joeanne Martin. Now it's Joan Harris. It's Joan Harris. 323 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.960 Excuse meself, Yeah, who's the voice of the A lot 324 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.440 of Bart's friends like Wendell, Lewis Richard or the kids 325 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:55.159 at school that aren't main characters, but you know them. 326 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.360 If you see Bart's friends at school that we never 327 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.600 see all that often, she's she's a voice of Martin's mother. 328 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.120 She's so she's I'm going to give Joe and Harris 329 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.840 a lower, low key MVP. Charlotau. I mean, I really 330 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.559 liked her in this episode. I really like the voice 331 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:09.000 work she did. 332 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.480 Just and if you if she's voicing those characters, as 333 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:14.840 you say, it's like, I like your work. 334 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:17.960 I appreciate that they were willing to get someone in 335 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:20.840 like Katain O'Hara right realized it wasn't working. Still have 336 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.360 the balls to say, sorry, Catherine, We'll still credit ya 337 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:25.360 because you put in the effort, you record all the lines, 338 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:26.879 but it's just not working. That's true. 339 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.759 I mean, Katherine O'Hara has always been great. She was 340 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.320 a cast member of their CTV The Canadian equivalent of SNL. 341 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.159 By this stage, she's already in Beatle Juice and Home Alone. 342 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.480 She's coming off Home Alone with this episode. Well known, 343 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:42.399 not exactly a huge star, but everyone knows the mother 344 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.279 from Home Alone. That's why many of the nice most 345 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:49.799 people now know her as Shit's Creak. She's Creek. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 346 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:52.200 but she's still Hey, it's Kevin's mum and Shit's Creek. 347 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.000 Who's I mean, she's crazy, really popular, but everyone's really 348 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.840 watching Home Alone. No one's I say, no one. That's it. 349 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:05.000 That's overstated. You're overstating again. Ship's Creek felt like very 350 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:06.720 much like a flammy most kind of deal where it 351 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.320 got really hot really quickly and it just fizzled out. 352 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:11.840 I know the show ended, but everyone was talking about 353 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.639 Ship's Creek. Now he's never here, it brought up anymore. Yeah, 354 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:15.159 that's true. 355 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.519 I mean it had its sort of I guess second 356 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:20.840 wind or second life life with a lot of memes 357 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:21.440 and things like that. 358 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.919 You still see that to some degree. You see a 359 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.759 lot of it. Was David right the sun, Dan Levy 360 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:32.879 who's the son character was David anyway, but you've got 361 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.600 your four main he was the most meaned one, yes, 362 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.279 and get the feeling I could be wrong here, but 363 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.080 this is a suspicion that I have that suspicions shifts 364 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.840 Creek was sort of because a lot of shows are made. 365 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.639 Like this now for the kids, in that we've got 366 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.440 to have some memorable moments. 367 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.759 And the actors really realize that talk shows now aren't 368 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:55.120 talk shows. They're just they're moments. 369 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.840 Oh yeah, absolutely, but certainly, you know, scripted drums and 370 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.320 scripted comedies are going to have moments where they have 371 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.080 a moment where you're sort of looking at the camera 372 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.000 or you're pulling a certain face or going uh huh, 373 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.559 because that can be like anytime someone says something on 374 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.640 Twitter or Blue Sky, Blue Sky, it's not really happening. 375 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:14.000 You finally realize this. 376 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.759 Many people are saying that, yeah, anytime we want someone 377 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.839 to agree with something, rather than say I agree, get 378 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:27.119 them to pull the face. Yeah, face could be anything, 379 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.079 you know what I mean. But yeah, Katherine Haa, I 380 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.519 mean yeah it is. As you said, it's pretty it's 381 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.240 pretty ballsy, and it shows a commitment to the. 382 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.880 Quality of the show. There's no way they would do 383 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:39.160 this now. 384 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.240 It feels bad to say, oh, our commitment quality is 385 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:44.519 so much that we will cut Katherine O'Hara. That's not 386 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.279 what I mean. It's more like she's great, but it's 387 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:48.839 not quite right. It's not what we need. 388 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.720 This even by the team here, how many times have 389 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.279 we reviewed, never said and gone that guess role just 390 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:58.720 didn't work or just didn't it didn't. It just it 391 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.880 just feels like, now, well there's no quality control. But 392 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.640 it's just we've got a guest start. Doesn't matter if 393 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.359 it works, We've got the guest star. I guess. 394 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:07.279 So yeah, I mean by season three, I mean the 395 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.279 show has already sort of gathered my manitument. It's becoming 396 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:11.480 a very very popular bit of a pop culture phenomenon. 397 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.519 But yeah, I don't is it at the stage where 398 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.720 it's starting to like we can pick and choose or 399 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:17.920 we've got people lining up to be on the show. 400 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.920 And I say this because I watched that New Christmas special. 401 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:23.920