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<v Speaker 1>With city council. You know, you've had two meetings, two

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<v Speaker 1>official meetings so far. You had you had a workshop

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an orientation as well that was still open

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<v Speaker 1>to the public, but actually going in making decisions. You've

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<v Speaker 1>had two official meetings so far, and you and I've

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<v Speaker 1>chatted a little bit. It's it's been a you tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a a little bit of a learning experience

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<v Speaker 1>for you as well, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, Just as I was saying earlier, every day

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<v Speaker 2>is uh, well really finding out how much I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, uh, just trust me. I I do that

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<v Speaker 1>every day as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's it's definitely been educational all the way around,

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<v Speaker 2>and have just you know, appreciated people's patients as we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to learn the ropes and figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>navigate this and try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What's best for Martinsville. Absolutely absolutely, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what all of our council members have in common.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first of all, the willingness to serve and

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<v Speaker 1>the willingness to do, even with disagreement, what you feel

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<v Speaker 1>is best for the City of Barlowsville. And uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>last meeting in January, it was a kind of touch

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<v Speaker 1>and go there for a little bit. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one specific item that that that came up was the

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<v Speaker 1>the grant from from the Oklahoma Department of Libraries for

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<v Speaker 1>the Barlowsville Public Library that served to pay the salary

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<v Speaker 1>of a of an assistant there who does a literacy

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<v Speaker 1>program specifically on citizenship classes in bilingual education. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in a two to two stalemate on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the vote. And and I know you've had

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<v Speaker 1>some time to think a little bit about.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Larry, Yes, absolutely, what I what I really wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had had seen coming with that. I well, first off,

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<v Speaker 2>well something I kind of listed there that I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. I'll jump down to this US to

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<v Speaker 2>come back. But is preparation for our meetings. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we get the packet comes out on either Thursday or

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<v Speaker 2>Friday before the meeting that anybody can go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and see. And so we we get those and we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to go through all of that and and digest

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<v Speaker 2>all that's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>A small document I think the last one to think,

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<v Speaker 1>like four hundred and fifty pages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's quite a bit out there, and so

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<v Speaker 2>trying to read through the details of that. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I sent several questions back to our city manager there,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Bailey, and he was quick to respond and get

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<v Speaker 2>me answers to those, which really helped. And and up

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<v Speaker 2>until I think Monday afternoon, I knew exactly you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where I was headed as we as we went into

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<v Speaker 2>that meeting, and so but I got some new information

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<v Speaker 2>and someone questioning, hey, you know this this library grant thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's even though it comes through the Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Life, Berryers is is granted from the federal level.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, the intent with that program is for those

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<v Speaker 2>who are here legally. And so that question arose in

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<v Speaker 2>the meeting. Uh, And so it seemed right to me

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, you know, hey, we should we should

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<v Speaker 2>be requesting some sort of id to to determine for

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<v Speaker 2>sure that someone's here legally before they take advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>the services. And then when that didn't pass due to

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<v Speaker 2>a stalemate, I wish I had thought at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even before then, to say, hey, let's table

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<v Speaker 2>this until next month so we can get more information

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<v Speaker 2>and understand more about this program and and really what

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<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with, and and so uh uh but but

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't do that, so uh it it failed. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>and uh definitely I learned that you can get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people up uh in in their passion about

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<v Speaker 2>things just by one word of either yes or no.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so I got a lot of feedback and

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<v Speaker 2>and do UH definitely appreciate that. I mean, all feedback

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<v Speaker 2>is a gift and uh and that's that's helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I had a lot of emails come into

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<v Speaker 2>my council inbox. I saw a lot of activity there

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<v Speaker 2>on social media and uh in which I'm still learning

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate. Never never did social media before this campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, guy with no social media, that's right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. Uh And so uh so, you know, taking

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<v Speaker 2>in all of that, and then also had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with Kylie there at the library as well

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<v Speaker 2>and to understand a little more about the program.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>As it stands with with rules of order, whoever has

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<v Speaker 2>to be someone who helped defeat uh something in order

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<v Speaker 2>to bring that back up for reconsideration at a other

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<v Speaker 2>council meetings. So that's where I've recommended that be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back up. It's it's on the agenda for the next

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<v Speaker 2>meeting and so we'll get to get that so that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't lose that grant and to h and to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we're in compliance. Everything that I can gather

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<v Speaker 2>so far says we are, because there's there's actually in

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<v Speaker 2>speaking with Kylie, there's actually a fifty page report that

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<v Speaker 2>they have to turn in every year to not only

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<v Speaker 2>give statistics in that sort of thing with who's gone

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<v Speaker 2>through the program, but to actually share stories of of

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, so and so did this, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that they necessarily share names, but to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're we've led people successfully through this program.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of benefit being had in it. And

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<v Speaker 2>also there are no consumable resources involved as I understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>with this program, So whether they're teaching the class asked

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<v Speaker 2>to five people or ten people or whatever, they they

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<v Speaker 2>have reusable resources that they're using for class after class.

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<v Speaker 2>And so anyway, oh that's helped me see better a

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<v Speaker 2>little more about the program. Also, we have the city

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<v Speaker 2>has an external audit done periodically that that will verify

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<v Speaker 2>that we're using funds appropriately and all of that. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to see this be able to be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back up and get across the finish line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very good, and so that will be again on

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<v Speaker 1>the first meeting in February where the Council will revisit

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<v Speaker 1>that literacy grant with the library. So now another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was kind of some questions were asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what was this grant from Phillip sixty six that would

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<v Speaker 1>be in cooperation with Up with Trees to do some

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<v Speaker 1>additional tree scale if you will, along Highway seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>and Frank Filds Boulevard in that area, playing some trees

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<v Speaker 1>back we're in the medians there after the tornado came

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<v Speaker 1>through and and did all that. Now we the council

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<v Speaker 1>pushed that to another meeting for some additional research, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, there's there were some concerns raised about alignment

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<v Speaker 2>with the Comprehensive Plan, which which we're we're revisiting. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, there's a committee we've we've had our first

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<v Speaker 2>meeting on that as well, just trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what really aligns with our city versus you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some alignment in the plan with with un goals

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<v Speaker 2>and so there was some concern around that and so

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<v Speaker 2>but my really my concerns and and you know, allowing

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<v Speaker 2>voting to yeah, let's go ahead and defer this until

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<v Speaker 2>we learned more about the comprehensive plan. Was really just

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at where they were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing the trees and and the times of trees, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a little bit of concern around them getting

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<v Speaker 2>out to the roadway a little bit or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>causing damage to the curbs or streets there, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of wanted a little better understanding around that.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have should have said something about that at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>just to gain better understanding. Uh, but that's also being

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<v Speaker 2>I think going to be brought back up as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, we don't we don't want to lose

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<v Speaker 2>those grants either. And we appreciate Phillip sixty six and

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<v Speaker 2>and up with trees and and uh being willing to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Us with that. Yeah. Yeah, And there were some questions

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<v Speaker 1>about that, especially after the tornado. I believe the trees

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<v Speaker 1>that were in the median in that area that those

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<v Speaker 1>were those Bradford Pear trees. I believe and we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, we have our gardening expert here every Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bradford Pear is not a strong tree, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I can I can certainly understand when you make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the type of tree that that would would

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<v Speaker 1>go there would be something that could handle Oklahoma weather

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<v Speaker 1>and also not damage our infrastructure. Of course Highway seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five that state infrastructure, but you know along along thing

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<v Speaker 1>Phills Boulevard that would be city owned infrastructure. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to always look at that and get the

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate answers to that as well. So as far as

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<v Speaker 1>far as going in and another ittem that that did pass,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a three to one vote. It was on

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<v Speaker 1>the U those electric carts for the golf course and

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<v Speaker 1>for the police department. So talk a bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you voted in favor of that, yes, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that and what were some of the concerns that were

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<v Speaker 1>being had with that one at the council level.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think the initial concerns rays were

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<v Speaker 2>again around you know, a green agenda. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be clear there obviously we want to conserve

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<v Speaker 2>and take care of our resources and and the earth

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<v Speaker 2>and all that we have there, but uh, just not

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<v Speaker 2>not elevating that over practical desires of a community and

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that as well. So that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once I understood more about those carts, to me, made

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<v Speaker 2>made perfect sense to have those both for the golf

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<v Speaker 2>course and for the Bartisville Police Department to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to use Pathfinder specifically. I know there was also some

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<v Speaker 2>concerns raised about the code around motorized vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Run the path find. There is an ordinance against vehicles, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I think written in there also is an

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<v Speaker 2>exception for safety and and that sort of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>would be fine for fire department, police department to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to use motorized vehicles there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, so that that's something that will be come

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<v Speaker 1>up and get its two utility style golf carts for

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<v Speaker 1>the of course that they'll be using for maintenance and

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<v Speaker 1>that type of thing, and then the two carts for

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<v Speaker 1>the police department are basically your standard once if you

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<v Speaker 1>see health there on the golf course, except instead of

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<v Speaker 1>where you put your your your golf bags on the back,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna have another bench there so that

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, if somebody needs assistance on the Pathfinder,

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<v Speaker 1>they will be able to do that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lisa Beeman, the city's grant administrator, she made

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<v Speaker 1>a good point that the city is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>a a electric vehicle perspective, you know, and she I

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<v Speaker 1>think she made it very clear that she understands that

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<v Speaker 1>that's something the council would not approve if they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, oh, let's go to a battery operated

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<v Speaker 1>you know, patrol vehicle. No, that that's something that this

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<v Speaker 1>council probably would not be in favor of, So she

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even take the time to write the grant. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one where the city has always had electric powered,

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<v Speaker 1>battery powered golf carts at the Adams and it just

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<v Speaker 1>it just fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, absolutely definitely makes sense there. And I we

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly where this was brought up to

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<v Speaker 2>me sometime in the last week or so, but they

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<v Speaker 2>there was actually a report given to us that I

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<v Speaker 2>that the I think the previous council looked at sometime

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<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of years about the possibility of

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<v Speaker 2>that and and it was it would not even be

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<v Speaker 2>feasible costwise to even move that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, well, I think I think that's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we all know is that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>on things and they're not going to do something outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the Council's direction. Yeah, really a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time. Now you have a big workshop

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be coming up. I think it's next Monday, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is again a city council workshop. It's into

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<v Speaker 1>the public absolutely, but this this workshop is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of a discussion piece on a on a

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<v Speaker 1>hot topic here in the community and that is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the the drag queen shows, the outdoor drag queen shows

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<v Speaker 1>that have been occurring here recently during the annual Pride festival.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what are you hoping to learn? I know

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<v Speaker 1>there was a during your orientation, uh to the attorney

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<v Speaker 1>Jess Kane really talked a lot about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>constitutionality and and all of that related to that. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you hoping to gain from this workshop?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good question. Uh, it's it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more education hopefully around that. If there's anything else

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<v Speaker 2>that that he can share, I think word for Council

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<v Speaker 2>Member Aeron Kirkpatrick may also have some some ideas of

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<v Speaker 2>of how we uh can best approach this sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really just gonna be talking around that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been trying to do some more reading

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<v Speaker 2>to us at the orientation, and so yeah, just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get educated and figure out where we go from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, and you know that's that's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>see that this council was doing. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>now three of the new members. Have you guys haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been in government before, and so learning about procedures, learning

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<v Speaker 1>about law and what is within the authority of a

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<v Speaker 1>municipality to do, staying within the law. That's always a

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yes, absolutely, there is a lot to learn

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<v Speaker 2>around the municipal code we have and and just upholding

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<v Speaker 2>that our state constitution, our US Constitution. I have lots

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<v Speaker 2>think they also the the you know, the rules of order.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, for a lot of people, especially if you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, took debate growing up or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably have a good handle on a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I had one constituent that brought that to

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<v Speaker 2>me an email like, you know, y'all need to understand

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<v Speaker 2>better all of this, and I said, you're absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I'm I'm definitely working on that, studying those

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<v Speaker 2>better and you know, just be able to keep more

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<v Speaker 2>professionalism going through that.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely well, again, it is a learning thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>and being in public office, Larry is Is can be

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<v Speaker 1>very rewarding. It can be also extremely challenging as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting those phone calls and those emails all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>being receptive to your constituency as a whole is something. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a constant learn That's what I've learned myself in

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<v Speaker 1>covering unicful government for two decades now. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>envy you. Let's put it that way. Let's put it

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now, there were lots of people, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>the after the election giving both congrat congratulations and condolences

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<v Speaker 2>at the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Time exactly exactly, well, we we know that we you

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<v Speaker 1>had that willingness to serve, and thank you for for

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<v Speaker 1>doing that for our city and sticking your neck out

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<v Speaker 1>there and sometimes learning as you're going. And let's say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's revisit something so that that that speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to your character, that really does.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Another item, if we do, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have another, that's one minute. Yeah, go ahead, there's another

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<v Speaker 1>quick item.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I've had some out to me with concerns

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<v Speaker 2>around the price, fields and maintenance and management of those,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I know the current contract expired at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of December, and so I'm just I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>gather more information about where we are in that process

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<v Speaker 2>and what we can do to make sure getting a

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<v Speaker 2>new contract or renewed contract or whatever it doesn't interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle, because I understand it. They're already you know,

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<v Speaker 2>needing to accept registrations for the spring season and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we are looking into that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the request for qualifications on the management of process.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, very good, very good, absolutely well Ward two

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<v Speaker 1>City councilor Larry East. It's been our pleasure having you

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<v Speaker 1>here on city batters today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're very welcome.