1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: What is up Fellawsiko's I'm coming at you so low? 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,560 Because Daron Fox reportedly requested in trade or is urging 3 00:00:12,599 --> 00:00:15,039 the Kings to move him. Let's talk about it before 4 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:17,879 we get started, though, Just a reminder, our Eastern Conference 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,839 trade deadline primer is already live, two plus hours of 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,079 us breaking down every team assets needs targets. Our Western 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,079 Conference one will be going up, probably immediately on Wednesday 8 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:31,199 after we record it, because stuff gets so dated at 9 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:32,880 this point. And that's why I want to talk about 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,719 Daron Fox, that we don't have to spend too much 11 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:36,880 time on the Kings when there's fourteen other teams to 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,079 talk about in that one. Although we'll probably have some 13 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:42,280 additional news by then, Let's get into the Daron Fox 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,079 stuff though he has you know, today Damien Barling of 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,119 ESPN thirteen to twenty initially had the report that Fox 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,280 and the Kings had a productive or a positive meeting. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Today I guess this is what constitutes positive. We then 18 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:59,960 have Sean Shrani of ESPN, Sam Amick of The Athletic 19 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,960 reporting that Rich Paul, his agent of Clutch Sports, has 20 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:07,400 basically told the Kings they should move him because he 21 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:11,159 isn't going to sign an extension. And however, following that, well, 22 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:13,959 actually two reports following that. James Ham of ESPN thirteen 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,760 twenty said that the San Antonio Spurs are the destination 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,239 Fox wants to go to. There's been some, i would say, 25 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,239 unconfirmed reporting that he's been planning this for quite some time, 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,799 that his family's already kind of been in the area 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,159 plotting going there. I don't subscribe to that just yet. 28 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:32,719 I would need to see someone who is more established 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,359 come out with such a report. But Damien Barling follows 30 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:39,680 up the reporting that Aaron Fox wants a trade by 31 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:42,000 saying that Fox will sign an extension with the Spurs 32 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:44,519 or the Kings, which leads you to wonder if the 33 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:47,599 Kings are somehow still in the mix here. I wonder 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,280 to the extent that they're still in the mixes this 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,719 dearon Fox trying to leave the super Max extension in 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,040 play five years, three hundred and forty two million dollars 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,280 this summer. That's only gonna happen if he makes all NBA, 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,439 and at this point I don't know if the Kings 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,719 would even want to hey it. I also don't think 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,560 he's going to make All NBA. Some of that may 41 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,519 be unfair, but I feel as if a lot of 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,840 the narratives or impressions or perceptions of the Kings have 43 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:15,080 already been decided, and so that would substantially hurt. Even 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,960 if he finishes the year on a tear, and he's 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,120 been by and large pretty good this year, you could 46 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,840 look and worry about his jumper. He's still shooting thirty 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,439 seven percent on step back threes, fifty four percent on 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,120 driving floaters. But we've seen some downt and ticks overall 49 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:31,719 in the floaters in general, as well as a three 50 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:35,039 point shot concerns there. But I wonder how much of 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,520 that has to do with we want to leave that 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,360 extension on the table in the if any makes all NBA, 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 or is it actually we're just trying to apply pressure 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,960 to the Kings to do something, anything to improve this roster. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,240 And that's probably the first perspective to tackle it. From 56 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:54,080 this sucks for Kings fans, I mean, it always sucks 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,000 for fans, but it's like Sacramano has been entrenched in 58 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:02,000 such self inflicted turmoil for for decades that it felt 59 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:05,000 as if they emerged from it in twenty twenty two 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,639 and even like kind of last year, viewing it as 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,639 a step back not making the playoffs. They only had 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,360 a couple of fewer wins. The Western Conference is hell fire. 63 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:15,840 They didn't make any moves at the trade deadline, but 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,439 it was okay, recalibrate over the offseason, come back with 65 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,400 something better. You didn't. You went medium lengths to go 66 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:26,840 get Demarta Rosen, who I think definitely addressed a need 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,400 that we've had this conversation many times over. But it 68 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:32,960 came at the cost in other areas or while overlooking 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,000 other areas when I say it came at a cost 70 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:37,639 of other areas aside from that, mainly that pickswap that 71 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:39,199 is going out, and I think it's what is it 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,080 twenty thirty? It's what has happened to Kegan Murray on 73 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,080 the offensive end, Like it's just he's been when you 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 even look at the usage, even as the efficiency comes up, 75 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:49,319 it's just a different type of usage. And so did 76 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:52,120 you inadvertently cap his development by having tomort Rows and 77 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:55,680 Darn fox domas a bonus and Malik monk All on 78 00:03:55,719 --> 00:03:58,280 the roster. I don't know, but you go do that 79 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:01,960 and you wind up largely not even largely the same, 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,120 but you reach this point where Mike Brown gets fired. 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,039 Even now you have under Doug Christie. They've been eleven 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,800 and four. They have a top ten they have a 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,680 top nine offense and a top thirteen defense during that time. 84 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,279 So they're eleven and four. They've had some good wins 85 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:20,759 during this stretch. They beat the Celtics, they beat the Rockets. 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,319 That was a good win for them. So this is 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,000 a team that can clearly do something. But you look 88 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,199 at it and you wonder, was de Aaron Fox plotting 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,319 this for a while, Like this was just this is 90 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,680 from the Clutch Sports playbook, And Schmidt Duo in the 91 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 No podcast pointed this out that this was my first thought. 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,279 I was like, oh, he's got a year and a 93 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:40,360 half ish left on his deal before free agency. This 94 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:43,079 is right out of the Clutch Sports playbook. It's actually 95 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:45,319 the same date. This is again from Schmid Duo in 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,519 the No podcast in twenty nineteen, from when Anthony Davis 97 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:51,000 requested that initial trade from the Pelicans. He ended up 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,680 not being traded that season. He made his way to 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,680 the Lakers that offseason. The fact that the Aaron Fox 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,439 has a destination in mind, if you're looking to get 101 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:00,800 out in theory, this is the play if you want 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,040 to make sure you get to your destination. Other teams 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,319 might come out of the woodwork, but some of them 104 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:07,759 that you would expect to maybe be aggressive. Let's look 105 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:10,759 at the Rockets, for one, they have very little reason 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680 to do so right now in the middle of the 107 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,600 season when you look at them contending for a top 108 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:17,480 two spot in the West. If they need to reorient 109 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,319 over the summer, that's the summer, and so you kind 110 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:22,839 of take them out of the equation. That helps Fox 111 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:24,759 if he really wants to get to San Antonio and 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,399 be with Wemby and so I get that line of thinking. 113 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:31,079 But you do have to ascribe not just a certain level, 114 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:34,680 but a massive level of blame to the King's front 115 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,800 office here. If the reporting from ESPN is true that 116 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:40,759 Ramona Shelborne piece they didn't consult anybody on the firing 117 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,040 of Mike Brown, which seems pretty stupid. I'm not you know. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,000 I think we get annoyed sometimes when maybe not Grant 119 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,839 and I specifically, but people in gener't get annoyed when 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,680 it feels like star players have too much power. But 121 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,560 if you really didn't give Diaron Fox a heads up? 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,519 And was that ESPN piece enough to pump the brakes 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,920 on the messaging that darn Fox had nothing to do 124 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,319 with it? Now? Did de Aaron Fox want Mike Brown 125 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,560 to stay? He was also reportedly like confronted heading into 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,040 this season saying he didn't want another coach. Whether that 127 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:10,839 changed or not, the organization's job here would be to 128 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,839 kind of protect perception of the player because ultimately, no 129 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:16,199 matter how much a player would want a coach gone 130 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,319 or a decision or a trade to be made, this 131 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:20,079 would loop back in the Lakers for people who kind 132 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,079 of blame Lebron and ad for the Russell Westbrook deal fiasco. 133 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:27,079 It's on the front office to keep their stars in check, 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,040 but also to protect their stars. And the Kings have 135 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,120 failed there, not only in terms of it's still floating 136 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,439 around the ether. Was de Aaron Fox responsible for this 137 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:37,079 or did his future have anything to do with it? 138 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,079 Maybe in terms of urgency, The King's worrying about reaching 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,360 this point specifically, But you've failed there. You've also just 140 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:45,800 failed to optimize the product on the court. After you 141 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:49,600 make that twenty twenty three playoff run. Let's say that 142 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:54,439 DeMar de Rosen was the right acquisition. You still didn't 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,399 do we still would is this year three four of 144 00:06:57,439 --> 00:06:59,480 like all right, like what's the backup big rotation gonna 145 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,360 look like? Because Trey Lyles, is that really enough? And 146 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:06,319 then could we get another wing type in here? Keon 147 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:09,199 Ellis finally playing again, that was always weird. But ke 148 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,560 On Alice getting minutes great, Devin Carter coming back healthy 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 where you kind of saddling your hopes just on all 150 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,759 that was, okay, it's Demrtiro's in, and then we're gonna 151 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 have Devin Carter once he gets healthy, and more minutes 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,240 for ke On Ellis. But the way he closed last year, 153 00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:24,000 and that was just supposed to make you a contender 154 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,759 in the Western Conference. I will say everything the Kings 155 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 have done, and like even th Kevin Herder trade has 156 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:33,360 aged pretty poorly to where you're asking you, like one 157 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:36,560 that pick, that first round pick obligation still floating around 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,519 out there, and you have no guarantee that just because 159 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:42,519 of how hilacious the Western Conference is right now, that's 160 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,879 going to convey. But the special of oh what Ken 161 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:49,120 Kevin Herder plus the first round pick get you on 162 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 the trade market that just kind of never carried less weight. 163 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:54,800 And then do you trust this front office to even 164 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:57,199 let's say the darn Fox stuff isn't happening. Do you 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,759 trust the flirt office to even go out and make 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,839 moves and upgrades because they've kind of proven that they're 167 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,120 not necessarily going to do that mid season. There's just 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,439 since the the Tyres Haliburt and Tomanto Sabonis trade, like 169 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:12,120 that's this has not been their mo like being able 170 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,560 to recalibrate on the move. I'll say, like even Malik Monk, 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,639 that happens over the offseason. So they deserve some credit there. 172 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:21,759 They deserve credit for seeing in Keegan Murray defensively, but 173 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,319 I don't think anyone else. So you deserve credit for 174 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:27,279 finding Keon Ellis. But there's like a limit to all 175 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:29,600 of this and the way that they've handled the coaching situations, 176 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,800 the Mike Brown extension and the reporting around it. Then, 177 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:35,120 of course is firing just really bad. And I think 178 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:37,639 you look at this team and did the front office 179 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,759 did ownership decide that like competence was just good enough, 180 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:43,639 Like Okay, we'll challenge for the playoffs and that's just 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,519 going to be enough. They should have operated with more 182 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,759 urgency and more coherence when it came to addressing that. Yes, 183 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,519 I will say a lot of people wanted them to 184 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,399 get another shot creator because things that bogged down for them. 185 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:58,799 Their crunch time record is what it is this year. 186 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,279 And the other thing here is I don't know that 187 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,879 that when you if you had the league Monk coming back, 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,240 I don't know that you can sit here and say 189 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 with a straight face that that needed to be their 190 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:10,919 top priority. I would have argued that kind of the 191 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,480 other wing type or other maybe like a bigger defensive player, 192 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:16,639 maybe a combo big, even though you have Sabonus, someone 193 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:19,919 whould play alongside Sabonus, not necessarily just his backup. That 194 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,039 would have done more for this team than a Demarta Rosen. 195 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,919 I'm not saying that he was a terrible fit. I'm 196 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:26,759 not saying even that deal was terrible. I think the 197 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:29,559 logic there was questionable. It felt like a half measure 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,360 where it's well, Zach Lavine is the better fit just 199 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,720 because you look at off the dribble jump shooting, off 200 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:38,840 ball jump shooting, but he's expensive and Demarta Rosen. We 201 00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:40,799 didn't have to give up any like tangible first round 202 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,799 equity for him, he's cheap on au per year basis. 203 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,000 That's the movie. You made that stuff in hindsight. Again, 204 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,159 I'm not saying that I thought the Demarta Rosen roof 205 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,360 was gonna blow up in their face and prompt Dear 206 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,279 and Fox to leave. By the way, that's probably not 207 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,080 what's prompting him to leave, nor is it. I've seen 208 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,159 some people say, oh, like the the Domasa bonus contract 209 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:02,200 really ruined the King. No, I mean one if if 210 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,240 that's the issue, when and Sabonis has had one hell 211 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,039 of a season and his minutes, like his solo star 212 00:10:08,159 --> 00:10:10,240 minutes have been the best on the team when you're 213 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,519 looking at solo star minutes. I'm open to the idea 214 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,519 that he's so unique, so specific of a player that 215 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:19,799 at his position you need to build around him in 216 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,480 this ultra specific way. That can make it tougher. But 217 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:24,919 if you, let's just say you think the Demontes Sabonis 218 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,440 contract or arrival is the issue, who did that, the 219 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,879 front office? Who gave that the front office ownership? So 220 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:34,080 you don't get to lay I don't First, I don't 221 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,159 think we could point to a singular moment or transaction. 222 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 I really don't think it it's anything to do with Sabonis. 223 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Maybe maybe that comes out, and I don't want to 224 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,000 dismiss like everyone's opinion, but I find that absolutely just 225 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:49,840 in Aim personally, the bigger issue seems like you gradually 226 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,320 let yourself get here. They are warning signs earlier in 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,720 this season when he had another meeting with the organization, 228 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,399 and what did you do? You did the easiest thing, 229 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:59,720 which was to change a coach. But and that got 230 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 you to this eleven and four record. But you're still 231 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:05,080 hovering around the fringes of the Western Conference playoff. No, 232 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:06,919 not even the playoff you're in the You're hovering around 233 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,279 the fringes of the plane discussion. While you can say, yes, 234 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,679 the margins in the Western Conference are so thin, there 235 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,279 are teams that are constantly there year in and year out. 236 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,399 Now the Thunder putting together something sustainable. Uh, the Grizzlies 237 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,919 when they're healthy, putting together something the Nuggets of course, 238 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,679 And you could say, oh, well, the Kings don't have 239 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,919 a player as transcendent as shake Gilgess Alexander or as 240 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,639 Nicola jokicch Okay, fine, but that isn't that part of 241 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,600 the problem. You're gonna sit here and say that, like 242 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,159 John Morant is so much more transcendent than the Aaron 243 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,279 Fox when you look at Joam Morant's availability over the years. No, 244 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,120 the Grizzies have built a deep ass roster one that 245 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:44,519 can work. Speaking of an unconventional setup or players that 246 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:48,519 in Fury could or personnel that in Fury could create 247 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,720 complicated functional warts awkwardness, and the Grizzlies are figuring it 248 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,120 out anyway. Like, yeah, are you have a good to 249 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:57,639 trust their force basing their half quart attack? Probably not? 250 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Probably not. They figured it out anyway to be one 251 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 the five most efficient offenses in basketball so far, even 252 00:12:02,519 --> 00:12:05,639 with the Rockets. Don't necessarily trust their playoff offense. No, 253 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:08,879 but they're getting it done anyway. Like they've assembled a deep, 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,759 coherent supporting cast. They've there's a lot of drafted and 255 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,120 development there. But like they pounced on opportunities, probably more 256 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:16,799 so than you can argue that the Kings have, or 257 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:18,799 at least pounced on the right opportunities when you're looking 258 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,159 at Dylan Brooks, when you're looking at fred van Fleet. 259 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,600 So I don't. My point of all this is to say, 260 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:27,759 I think this was avoidable, and I think the Kings 261 00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:30,240 as an organization deserve a bulk of the blame more 262 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,159 than Oh, Darron Fox was always one or two feet 263 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,919 out the door. He has not come across as a 264 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,559 star player that's tried to wield leverage or been asking 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,639 for out. I don't think that him passing on extensions 266 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:44,879 in each of the past two summers had really anything 267 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:48,120 to do with him angling to get to San Antonio specifically, 268 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,440 it really did feel like more of a financial play. 269 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:53,279 And maybe now he's kind of just dealing with the 270 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,840 reality of last season, everything that's happened this season, staring 271 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:58,600 at the Kings and saying, well, how are they supposed 272 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:00,879 to get to the next level? Well, that can prove 273 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:04,840 grading frustrating, and that's why he's now asking for the trade, 274 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,720 identifying now, what are the Kings gonna do here? That's 275 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,320 where it gets super interesting. I don't it seems like 276 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:13,919 he requested out. This is the headlines now it would 277 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:18,759 almost feel, you know, like borderline franchise malpractice not to 278 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,039 move him. But these you have, even though you might 279 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:27,399 have known that his displeasure was growing, you have inside 280 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:29,759 two weeks, you have basically a week to move the 281 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:32,519 Iron Fox before the February sixth traded line. That's a 282 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,919 lot to do in seven eight days. You have to 283 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:39,039 figure out one what is your aim in a post 284 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,879 d Aaron Fox era, Even if you think that dolmantess 285 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:44,120 a Bonus is your most important player, that Keagan Murray 286 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:47,519 is the most important player in the building, are you rebuilding? 287 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:51,159 Are you looking at fast track your acceleration without Fox? 288 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,320 That I've seen some stuff that the Kings could get 289 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,759 better without the Aaron Fox. Point me to the trade 290 00:13:55,759 --> 00:13:57,960 that makes the Kings better without the Iron Fox. Then 291 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,600 we could talk, because I don't necessarily see it out there. 292 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,399 Maybe you could balance your rotation out a little bit more. 293 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:06,840 But in terms of a frum scratch shot creator who 294 00:14:06,919 --> 00:14:09,720 can also table set for everybody else, the Kings do 295 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:12,240 not have a better option on this roster. They are 296 00:14:12,279 --> 00:14:14,080 not going to get a player who does that in 297 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:16,679 exchange for Daron Fox. If you really wanted to argue, 298 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,240 is there a three team construction where Zacchulvine does end 299 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,159 up on the Kings reunited with the Marta Rosen of course, 300 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,360 and that somehow makes them I guess more like evens 301 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,360 out the rotation in some way. There are other pieces 302 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:30,480 coming at I would have to see it in practice, 303 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:32,759 but I would rail against the idea that the Kings 304 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:36,240 are going to be a better team now and immediately 305 00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:39,600 moving forward without Daron Fox. What you would want to 306 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:44,399 do is probably reorient at most, but kind of rebuild 307 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,639 and almost start over where it's the right like, maybe 308 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:48,159 we won't do it now, but it's time to explore 309 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,360 what's going to happen with the bonus uh down the 310 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:53,480 line this offseason. That gets into the awkward discussion of 311 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:57,320 what about this King's front office do you trust to 312 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,799 make the right decision in a trade? And they have 313 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 be under some semblance of pressure, so they make the 314 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:06,679 Fox move now or even this offseason? Should you know 315 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:09,240 Monty McNair or West Wilcox all be as short of okay, 316 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,279 the job, your job's abilities here they make that trade, 317 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,000 they're still probably gonna be feeling the pressure. And is 318 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:17,559 that going to prompt them to make maybe more of 319 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,039 a short sighted move to say, hey, we can't afford 320 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,759 to take a few steps back and plan around a 321 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:24,679 longer term, like we need to do something now. That's 322 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 not a great mindset to have entering trade talks. When 323 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,120 you're talking about your franchise centerpiece, who's in his prime 324 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,120 and in theory should command a haul in capslock picks, 325 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Are you going to undermine that by accepting players that 326 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,679 you think can help you win? Now, that is not 327 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 I don't think that's the right direction for Sacramento. It's all, 328 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:47,360 of course pending what the market is. Is the market 329 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:50,480 just San Antonio, So forget about the King's front office. 330 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Should they be the ones making this deal the answers, 331 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,360 by the way, the answer is no, like what have 332 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,120 they done to endear themselves to fans or just in 333 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,039 a vacuum to say like oh yeah, Like no, this 334 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,200 is the right regime for the job. Seriously, and now 335 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:06,840 arguably you're at a point, as the Kings where it 336 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,679 would make sense to start over because you don't have 337 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,080 a permanent head coach in place. Doug Christie stills that 338 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,960 interim label and now your franchise star wants out. Like 339 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,879 this is almost You don't control your first round pick 340 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:20,480 this year necessarily, but you can with the protections that 341 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:22,480 are on. I mean, as of right now, that thing's 342 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:24,480 not gonna convey. It's like you do kind of control 343 00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:27,039 the fate of that pick as well. Is this a 344 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,279 sign that you should start over? Can you do that 345 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,720 by dealing with the Spurs specifically. They've got plenty of picks. 346 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,879 They've they've got all their own first, they've got extra 347 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:38,039 Atlanta first, They've got Minnesota Timberwolf stuff. They have the 348 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,840 Bulls pick this year. Technically that's top ten protected, so 349 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 they can give you a future focused package. They're not 350 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,759 gonna be the team that gives you the return that 351 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:52,320 can keep you competitive. Now you would have to This 352 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:54,399 assumes that they even want to give up Jeremy Sohan 353 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:57,000 or Steph Cassel, which I don't think the Kings would 354 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,200 have much interest in either, to be honest with you, 355 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,159 maybe ab so hand. But the bigger thing here is 356 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:04,759 if you think that the Kings are gonna give up 357 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,559 gonna get Devin Vassell out of this, I have a 358 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,359 couple bridges I would like to sell you, and I 359 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,319 will happily eat crow if I'm wrong. But you're not 360 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,759 getting Devin Vessell for darn fox, and if you do, 361 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:17,480 I may argue that you're getting very little, if anything 362 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:21,559 else his contract. He's under lock and key longer term 363 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:24,200 and no de Aaron Fox is the better player, but 364 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:25,880 like part of the appeal, if your the Spurs would 365 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,160 be pairing the Aarn Fox with Victor Webinyama and Devin Vessel, 366 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,000 you can say Steph Castle too, if you're that big 367 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,880 a believer in what his offense could become. Sure, but 368 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,359 his defense absolutely, but he arguablycomes a little bit more 369 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,160 expendable if you're bringing in Darn Fox or you're just 370 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 hoping that or not hoping, you've now assumed that Steph 371 00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:47,400 Castle is never gonna profile as that floor general type. Fine, 372 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:50,160 so now you have to talk about roping in third 373 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,599 and fourth teams and san Antonio gonna send out enough 374 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,680 draft equity get the King's stuff that they want. If 375 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,200 the Kings don't want a future focus to return, those 376 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,440 are iffy waters to traverse as just dealing with the 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Spurs in general. If they want d Aaron Fox, yeah, 378 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:07,359 they might give up stuff to get him. Will they 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,400 do it mid season at a time when doing so? 380 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:12,519 I mean maybe their own first is headed out here. 381 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,839 But they're a team that, as I'm recording, this is 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,039 twelfth in the Western Conference. Are they gonna feel the 383 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,160 urgency to accelerate their position this season? No? Probably not, 384 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:24,839 so maybe they lowball you, especially because they are the 385 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 only team that's ond Aaron Fox's list. But I'd be 386 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,599 curious as to know what their best mid season package 387 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:33,200 would be. That might be something they're prepared to revisit 388 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,519 over the offseason. And look, if you're the Kings, it 389 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:37,720 might make some sense for you to revisit it over 390 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:40,119 the offseason as well, because you don't want to damage 391 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,119 the value of this. Like maybe the Spurs are sending 392 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,960 you this year's draft pick, like wherever the actual number is, 393 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,920 they'll be worse without Daron Fox this season. That's an 394 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,920 interesting level of gamesmanship here. Now you could say, what 395 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,200 if Fox goes to the Jimmy Butler route and becomes 396 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:58,440 a borderline malcontent. He has given very few public indications, 397 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,279 even when it comes to his demeanor on the court, 398 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,079 that he would ever follow that route, And it also 399 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:06,599 if he's passed the trade deadline, it doesn't really behoove 400 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,920 him to do so. He's one under contract for at 401 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,720 least another year. But like, what are you gonna do 402 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,200 at that point? The Kings might shut you down anyway, 403 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:16,279 So there you can't You could what are you going 404 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,559 if you go let's just say he's playing an egregiously 405 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:21,400 bad on purpose. What does that do for him, aside 406 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,680 from hurt his trade value around the league at a 407 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,960 time when that type of demeanor isn't going to get 408 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,839 you moved because the trade deadline has passed, And so 409 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,960 I don't think you need to worry about this. If 410 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,880 I'm the kings of still trying to slow play this, 411 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,279 and if he is willing to sign an extension with you, 412 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,160 still a base extension, a base a base max extension 413 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,920 this summer would be having four years, two hundred and 414 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,839 twenty nine million. If he's still open to staying with 415 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,359 you long term, you need to gauge the legitimacy of 416 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,279 that feeling before you then go out, because now creates 417 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:55,599 this weird dynamic at the trade deadline of you can't 418 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:57,720 be trading really And I mean, yeah, if you can 419 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,759 get someone for Kevin hurderan treye Lyles, go ahead and 420 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:02,319 do it anyway, But can you really promise a first 421 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,160 round pick that'll be at least two years into the future, 422 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,440 if not more. Should you not convey this year's pick 423 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,599 to Atlanta when you don't know what's gonna happen? With 424 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,279 the Iron Fox that was kind of always the dilemma, 425 00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:15,119 and so they may be boxed into a corner in 426 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,319 that regard. But is there if there is a real 427 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,000 chance that he would stay or consider signing an extension. 428 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Maybe you just ride the rest of this season out 429 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,000 just to see how good you are, and then you 430 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,000 could come to him with your plans over the offseason 431 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:29,640 once you either wan see what the landscape is for 432 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,599 his services. Just because again I do think teams like 433 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:36,640 even Orlando might be reticent to make a mid season moves. 434 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,240 They're trying to feel out, Okay, what do we look 435 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:41,640 like now that m Wagner's done for the year, but 436 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:44,119 we have Ronz Wagner and Paulo benk Carrow back. Jalen 437 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Suggs is kind of banged up, though, do we really 438 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,559 want to move Anthony Black? And so there will be 439 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,759 other teams that then come out of the would work, 440 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,160 other teams that open up even more draft equity that 441 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,319 they could send you, and the Kings themselves may have 442 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,920 a better lay of what they're working with in terms 443 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,400 of assets. This is still pretty bleak if you're a 444 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,839 Kings fan, and I don't know, like if you're gonna 445 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:08,559 move him mid season. What are the chances that it's 446 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:10,480 not to the Spurs? Then? At this point, I mean, 447 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,759 could Orlando still be involved? I guess sure. I really 448 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:17,039 would be shocked if Houston became involved here. We've already 449 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,319 had reporting that says the Lakers are not on Fox's list, 450 00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:22,599 and just in a vacuum, the first round picks that 451 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:25,400 they could give up twenty nine and thirty one, that's 452 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,799 just not gonna be enough compared with the matching salary 453 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,440 they could send out, I would assume relative to what 454 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,359 the other offers are going to be. I mean, Phoenix 455 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,000 could get weird, but you're not taking Bradley Beal back 456 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:38,039 here and those three first round picks they could give 457 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:41,559 you or just kind of blaw. Would the Warriors be interested? 458 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,559 Maybe they'd be an interesting the Aaron Fox team, and 459 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,920 they have a crap ton of assets and they have 460 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,799 a bunch of first round equity they could play around with. 461 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,799 The messaging has also kind of been that they don't 462 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:53,119 want to do anything like that. They're just gonna ride 463 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,599 out mediocrity with Stefan Draymond there and then because they 464 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,759 don't have their bridge to the future already in play. 465 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:00,960 You're raither gonna help you find that drafting in like 466 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440 the late lottery or middle of the first round, or 467 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,680 just wait to reset until the you know, Steph request 468 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,559 of trade, I guess, or until he actually retires. I suppose. 469 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:12,599 I'm trying to think of, like what other teams could 470 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:16,160 really convince themselves here to make a run and just 471 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,039 have the assets to do it, Like Oklahoma City would 472 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,000 be fairly interesting. I'm not just saying this because they 473 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:22,720 have all the assets in the world, but you could 474 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,720 send out they their flexibility under the luxury tax is 475 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,240 kind of almost unheard of for a team that's in 476 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:32,079 a position to be maybe the title favorite this season, 477 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,559 so you don't have to send out a ton of money, 478 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,480 and all their contracts are pretty much good. If you're 479 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:37,200 getting a Wiggins, a Joe and a bunch of first 480 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,680 round picks, pretty Aaron Fox, you havn't compromised future flexibility, 481 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 and maybe you're still you're getting a bunch of draft 482 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,759 equity moving forward, and then maybe you're still pretty good 483 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:48,400 this year just because you've increased the depth of your 484 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,759 roster at the same time, like they're not a team 485 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:53,039 that's like didn't one don't need to make sizmic mid 486 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:54,519 season moves, and they might want to go through another 487 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:56,720 postseason push if Cheded Holman is going to be healthy 488 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,400 and say okay, like do we actually need another primary 489 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,000 offensive there? It puts the Kings in a tough spot. 490 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,599 And the right call here is to not rush anything. 491 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,720 Even if you think that the Aaron Fox era is over, 492 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,680 which it does. It feels over. It feels like it 493 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,400 will not last beyond this season, and that if it does, 494 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:17,279 something's gone terribly wrong or the Kings are being incredibly 495 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:21,759 reckless or they've gotten super lucky here, and that's kind 496 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,160 of the just the state of things. And I think 497 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,599 that the first and foremost the blame needs to just 498 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:29,599 be laid at the feet of the King's organization for 499 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,079 allowing it to get to this point where their actions, 500 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,680 I would say, have been you could you know, you 501 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,880 can harp on some of the hits, some of the 502 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,359 semi hits, some of the misses, but like the biggest 503 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,920 misses might just be the stuff they never did or 504 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,559 or let go unresolved. We're in a year again, I 505 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,279 think three maybe four of talking about kind of the 506 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:51,559 same biggest roster needs, roster holes that they've always had, 507 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:53,519 and some of their logic has just been the way 508 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:57,680 they've gone about things. Certainly, Mike Brown has been pretty terrible. 509 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,519 And to be eleven and four over your last fifteen games, 510 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,240 and this is the storyline now that you're that your 511 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,000 best player, second best player, whatever you want to call him, 512 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,680 wants out, that's like, that's disastrous, And I do think 513 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,839 that's a reflection of the organization to some extent, which 514 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,079 is why I feel so bad for Kings fans who 515 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,640 do not deserve this, just given the loyalty that they've 516 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,960 shown to the organization through thick put mostly thin over 517 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,799 the past couple decades. And even like I guess the 518 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000 right call if you're the Kings at this point to 519 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:28,680 wrap up here would be I don't know if it 520 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,759 has to happen this season, but it's too lean towards 521 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:35,960 the future focused return and you need to somehow then 522 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,680 drum up a market outside San Antonio. There was some 523 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,400 reporting that Brooklyn would be interested, but was that only 524 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,119 they're hoarding twenty twenty six cap space and that's when 525 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,880 they'll be interested or are they willing to give up? Okay, 526 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,440 not this year's first, But will they give you those 527 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,079 future draft picks that they have still kind of in 528 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,759 their clip nick a lot of Knicks draft picks, Like, 529 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:56,519 are they wanting to build a package around that? And 530 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,440 then if so, like the Kings really have to have 531 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,240 a vision of future there because they don't have these 532 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,640 blue chip prospects that they're gonna send you back, which 533 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,160 is why that's so unappealing. But I do think that's 534 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,759 the right decision not to accept necessarily a Brooklyn type 535 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,480 of package. But you need to now gear up kind 536 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,279 of start over, and I think part of that is 537 00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,079 not just the Daron Fox return, but it might just 538 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:22,039 be cleaning house in the front office, hire someone new 539 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,279 to run it. Then you figure out the head coaching stuff. 540 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,799 Ownership is going to remain the same. That is perhaps 541 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,559 the biggest issue here, But you can't really do anything 542 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:32,519 about that. And so I think that the Kings here 543 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,039 they need to look at this and say, all right, YEA, 544 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:35,880 if there's a package on the table that's really good 545 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,720 from the Spurs or someone else in advance of February sixth, fine, 546 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,119 but you can't rush into something just because one he 547 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,039 asked her out and two that you're so bent on 548 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,759 saving face remaining as good as possible without him, because 549 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,920 that's ultimately just not that is franchise matal practice. You 550 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,759 need to take the best offer, whatever is. Maybe that 551 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,480 includes a bunch of players where you're still able to 552 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,839 feel the competitive team. But if the right call is 553 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,599 where we're gonna take. This team comes calling with a 554 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359 bunch of drafts, we have a chance to get four 555 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 first round picks and some swaps or something and maybe 556 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,640 some players. You have to think in those terms, now, 557 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,559 like that's the point that you've reached. It was hard 558 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,160 enough with the Aaron Fox to envision the Kings getting 559 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,839 to the level of let's just say, like oka, see 560 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:20,039 where Houston is now, the Cleveland, the Boston tier, even 561 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,920 maybe where New York is or Memphis is or Denver 562 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:24,839 is at this exact moment, not talking about you know, 563 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Denver already won a title, so not talking about the past. 564 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,480 It was already hard to envision them getting there because 565 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,480 they're so assets strapped independent of Keegan Murray and the 566 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:36,960 Aaron Fox and let's just say Sibonus and those are 567 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,559 all players in theory that you want, like you need 568 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,319 if you're trying to be as competitive as possible. You 569 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 could again you could trade distant first, but now you can't. 570 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,759 You can't do something like that the trade deadline because 571 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,200 you don't know what's gonna happen with with Fox. So 572 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,599 that's where the Kings are at right now. I don't 573 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,079 think they've earned the benefit of the doubt when it 574 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,519 comes to making the right decision here. Just based how 575 00:26:57,559 --> 00:26:59,559 this has played out, I will be fascinated to see 576 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,279 what happens. This throws definitely an interesting curveball into the 577 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,839 twenty twenty five trade deadline where it kind of looked 578 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,440 like we'll see Jimmy Butler get moved because he has 579 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,440 to at this point, what other big names are gonna go? Like, 580 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,039 there's a real case that o Dorian Finney Smith was 581 00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:15,079 the second or third best player get moved to the 582 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480 deadline unless you thought that a Levine or a be 583 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,960 Oald trade was gonna happen for Jimmy Butler. And there 584 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,599 might be other curveballs coming, but this one, this certainly 585 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,079 heightens the intrigue and you also have to wonder and 586 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,599 maybe this is something Grant and I will get into 587 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,599 when we talk about the Kings in that megaprimer again, 588 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,119 be on a lookout for it. Go check out we 589 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240 did the East. Lots of good stuff in there. Does 590 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,359 this impact, like Jimmy Butler's trade demand is keeping other 591 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,039 business on hold? Now, how many of the Jimmy Butler 592 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:43,160 teams the costs are night and day. It's not gonna 593 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,519 cost as much in assets, salary, shirt, It's gonna cost more. 594 00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:48,559 It's not gonna cost as much an assets to get 595 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,119 Jimmy Butler. But how many of the teams that, in 596 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,240 theory might have been considering Jimmy Butler outside of Phoenix, 597 00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,079 and like, how many other Jimmy Butler destinations where they're 598 00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:02,720 actually how many those teams looks like if it's the Warriors, 599 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,960 like if it was the Suns, or if Memphis really 600 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,440 was looking at a Jimmy Butler trade, how many of 601 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,480 them could now hold up business because they want to 602 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,519 check in on Daron Fox, the team of the teams 603 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,720 I named. I mean, if the Warriors are actually involved, 604 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,640 uh in the Jimmy Butler sweepstakes, I'm skeptical. But if 605 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,440 they were, like they might be a team, You're not 606 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640 gonna say Milwaukee or really even I mean he'd be 607 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,440 fould be a good fit in Phoenix. They just don't 608 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,119 have They need someone like Jimmy Butler where the asset 609 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,119 value has has torpedoed for them. So this will be interesting. 610 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,119 It completely changes the maybe not the complexion, but the 611 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,160 potential for what happens at the NBA trade deadline. We're 612 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,200 gonna sit here, We're gonna wait for what happens. We're 613 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000 gonna react to it, We're gonna analyze to it, and 614 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,559 again be on the lookout for our Western conference trade deadline. 615 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,359 Mega Prime are dropping probably like Wednesday evening at this 616 00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,799 raide because stuff is becoming dated so quickly. Until next time, 617 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,599 and as always, I leave you with the shout out 618 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,240 to the one, the only, the indelible, the real fix 619 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:01,759 for what the soucra meddal Gas right now. With or 620 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,119 without the iron box, he could make him the title 621 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,759 favorite Mister frank Yorck MHM