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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another episode of Video Games to the

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<v Speaker 1>Max is episode one hundred and twenty two, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Sean Garmer, who with me as usual mister

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Morrison. How do and well, we have plenty to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here today. As Mark has finished Metaphor Refantasio,

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<v Speaker 1>I've played a little bit of The Horizons zero Oddan

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<v Speaker 1>remastered and that Pokemon tcg app. I have to pull

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<v Speaker 1>myself aways and don't get addicted. There also some really

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's inevitable news that was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but still sad nonetheless, as Sony has officially pulled the

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<v Speaker 1>plug completely, this time on Concord and subsequently closed Firewalks studios.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about that. Some good news with Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>and Call of Duty and Nintendo also making up their

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<v Speaker 1>own music app. You know there's Spotify, this other ass

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo of course, they got to walk their own kind

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<v Speaker 1>of deal and we'll double a gaming. Could that save

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. We'll get into all that and more, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>They review that, such as this the last one. There

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough for the housekeeping. I guess let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and well, you went to that convention this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>How was that pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>I paid their extra like early access, so that that

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<v Speaker 2>was better because like the longer it went, the more

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<v Speaker 2>filled up it got.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get to meet anyone or have them sign any.

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<v Speaker 2>They had three guys or they had four guys. There

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<v Speaker 2>a Mortal Kombat artist I think he did like the logo.

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<v Speaker 2>They had two dudes who were in Mortal Kombat, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like scorpions, like I forget the guy the Pasina brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're brothers. I don't know. And the guy

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<v Speaker 2>I met was a guy named Tim kitts Row. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like the voice of NBA jam in NFL Blitz

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess at did a lot of pinball stuff too,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't really know, but I can't definitely recognize

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<v Speaker 2>some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his voice is definitely for I could see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does look very good like hearing normally speak.

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<v Speaker 2>He's fine, but he does look a very good like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's arrogant or anything, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>very good like Zach Brannigan or you know that type

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<v Speaker 2>of like kind of pompous like newscaster type of voice

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<v Speaker 2>when he wants to. It's pretty good. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>nice guy, you know. He signed something for me or

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<v Speaker 2>signed a few things I had. I brought like to

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<v Speaker 2>an NBA jam Manuel from to sign, so I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>buy those games, I guess now. But he was cool, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I had I actually wrote like a pretty long

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<v Speaker 2>list of crap I was trying to find. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>it was like easy, uh, Like I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find a copy of like Kirby's Dreamland too for like

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<v Speaker 2>the game Boy or on your list there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was an I was gonna easy one. Actually that was

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<v Speaker 2>about the only easy one maybe or you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I found four things I was looking for I found

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<v Speaker 2>Kirby Streamland two. I finally had a copy of Bay

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<v Speaker 2>Based Kids for the Superintendo, which was objectively one of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst games ever made. Uh, there's like no way

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<v Speaker 2>you can argue against it. I had it as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I kind of wanted to play. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hated it when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>So the game you hated as a kid, you also

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<v Speaker 1>would have as a Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I think it's like unfinishable because it just

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<v Speaker 2>gets like so fucked hard, like by the third stage,

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<v Speaker 2>it's impossible. Like, but it's been like it's not an

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<v Speaker 2>expensive game. I got like thirty bucks, but I said,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's one of the really hard to find games,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I just like I've been looking for it

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<v Speaker 2>for years, and this is the first time I saw it,

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<v Speaker 2>like and I only saw it like at the like

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<v Speaker 2>the last booth or you know, you know, the last

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<v Speaker 2>like table. This guy had it, and I was like, wow, Okay, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna buy this one because this is the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I've seen it, you know, right. Well, the other

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<v Speaker 2>two things, the other two things I found in my

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<v Speaker 2>list were, Uh, I finally found a copy of Strider

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<v Speaker 2>too with both discs, which is cool, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty nice copy. It was a little more expensive than

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to spend, but it's kind of a rare game, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an expensive and rare game, especially since, like most

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<v Speaker 2>times I see it, it's missing like a disc, which

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a problem. Yeah, and that game is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's infamously funny because it has a disc for Strider

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<v Speaker 2>one and Trier two. When they sent it to manufacture,

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<v Speaker 2>they fucked up the labeling, so the Strider two disc

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<v Speaker 2>is actually Stritter one and Strider one is actually Stritter two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Every game is like that, or every disc is like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a you idiots, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that, you might get the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because the boat discs coming coming the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but most most games, or most copies of reason, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like missing a disc and it's like, yo, this this

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<v Speaker 2>came into two disc case, like and then MA says

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<v Speaker 2>two discs, so they have. The big thing I got

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<v Speaker 2>on my list was a copy of Castlevania Something of

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<v Speaker 2>the Night for the Sega Saturn. Obviously the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to play that game. Yeah, a like mediocre port, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is interesting because it has uh Maria as a

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<v Speaker 2>third character, and she's playable in another version of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's different in that one. Uh So that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I got kind of got this. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like two hundred dollars. I think I talked to a

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<v Speaker 2>guy on like one to eighty. I think. Ah. The

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<v Speaker 2>other things I didn't this was the were one of

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<v Speaker 2>my lists. The other things I picked up were I

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<v Speaker 2>picked up the Cassylvania sympthing that strategy guide.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's cool to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's exceptly my bucks. I mean it's old, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the prices on eBay and my Car were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more so, right, And I picked up something

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<v Speaker 2>in that soundtrack. Yeah, so I picked up three something that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a pretty awesome soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'd say, like one of the ten best

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<v Speaker 2>soundtracks to a game ever. So all right, And the

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<v Speaker 2>other two things that picked up a kind of smaller thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I picked up a hidden otic game for like two

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<v Speaker 2>bucks called Angelica Weaver Catch me when you can have

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<v Speaker 2>it on Steam. But it was like a physical copy

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<v Speaker 2>and I had like some fond memories of it, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm liken' why not. I had like the loose change

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<v Speaker 2>to pick it up, so I'm like, who cares h

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<v Speaker 2>And I picked up a big box copy of Moto

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<v Speaker 2>Racer two, an old, uh you know, motorcycle racing game

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<v Speaker 2>from like nineteen eighty eight. I think that was like

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<v Speaker 2>five bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I saw some friends there. The funny thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is in this convention center, like the City Convention Center,

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<v Speaker 2>and like in a different part of the building was

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<v Speaker 2>a big early voting set up. Yeah, so that worked

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<v Speaker 2>out well when people were like in line for the

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<v Speaker 2>gaming thing and they're like, oh, no, voting's over here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people going to the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh. So the thing said it had pinball, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was in a different room because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the main room, and I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tacked because I was like, where the fuck is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was there for like four hours, and

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<v Speaker 2>by four by like the you know, three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hour mark, I was, you know, I'm exhausted, so

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<v Speaker 2>I just left. But apparently they did have pinball, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is in some separate room that I didn't know about, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of a shame because I would have

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<v Speaker 2>liked to have played. Uh yeah, people had some good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some stuff I kind of wanted, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want or I might have had the money,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't want to spend all of it there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right, and the big stuff I was looking for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like a game Boy Light or uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the limited edition of Shenmu one. You know, no

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<v Speaker 2>one had. I didn't see any copies of Vagrant Story.

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of a rare game. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting to be a rare game.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, it's not like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's available digitally. Yeah, so yeah, definitely right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The one game I saw there, which is actually extremely

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<v Speaker 2>expensive and rare, it was a Genesis game called Musha.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who wants to sell his copy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably to me, hopefully hopefully shoat price if

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening to Frank. But I saw like three copies there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like shocked, just like ex yeah, well

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<v Speaker 2>one copy was eight hundred dollars. One copy was like

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<v Speaker 2>seven fifty, and I think like one copy is like

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<v Speaker 2>four fifty, and I'm like, damn, like that's a low.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the four fifty copy was sold in a

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<v Speaker 2>good condition too. I'm like, that's all right, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I had fun. I had like I was operating on

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<v Speaker 2>like no slate because I was really excited than before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I got to I got there like two hours

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<v Speaker 2>of sleep, so by the time I was done, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like exhausted, and I went to it like another

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<v Speaker 2>game store in the area, looked around for like ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then went back to my car and crashed out

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<v Speaker 2>for two hours, and then drove back home because I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably a good idea that you slept for a

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking for a copy of Speaking in five.

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<v Speaker 2>Two people had. One copy was like one twenty, which

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<v Speaker 2>like extra disc set that had like a little booklet

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<v Speaker 2>by itself, Like it's not sixty. So I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>That one, you know, yeah, well probably not right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was good. Uh, you know, it got early

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<v Speaker 2>on it was extremely nice to walk around, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of it, I could barely walked on

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<v Speaker 1>That's always a plus. Now you can just wait till

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<v Speaker 2>Can say that'll be in March, I think, or I

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<v Speaker 2>a few few people, so that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's always a plus when that could

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<v Speaker 1>retro game store, sometimes you can't even like count on

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<v Speaker 2>Really, right, it's actually game stuff. I went to one,

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<v Speaker 2>actually go to a game stuff like last weekend, just

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, the retro store.

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<v Speaker 2>No. But even the retro store by me is kind

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the retro store by me wouldn't have like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Vagrant Story or The Tense or shim My

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<v Speaker 2>Double Summoner Collector's Edition for sale. So yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck with that, all right? Yep? I had fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there's a retro convention by you, you should go

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, I think anybody that has an interest in

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<v Speaker 1>the retrogaming or definitely go to a convention and like

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<v Speaker 1>see what they got there, see if you find one

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<v Speaker 1>of those hidden gems, you know, looking right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely surprised that I found a copy of Tracula

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<v Speaker 2>or something in the Night for the Saturn.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's to come like really rare recently, or.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about unor bucks, you know. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like the rarest game, but even want it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people like something to night and I had it up

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<v Speaker 2>last night. I owned five copies of that goddamn game

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<v Speaker 2>now for physical releases, and I'll and I'm missing like

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<v Speaker 2>one like there's like an Xbox three sixty version to

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<v Speaker 2>actually put on a disc like some you know collection.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that one yet, but I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well how it goes the you you've

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yep, I beat it last week. Uh that's a

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<v Speaker 2>long ass game. You thought it'd be shorter, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really because you have to grind quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I told you, don't. Don't be thinking it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be short. How what was your your final taling.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about eighty hours?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, that's that's around the the hour mark

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<v Speaker 1>that five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I didn't get all the bonds. I missed

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<v Speaker 2>like one by like one step. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>here correctly. It was Katerina or Katherina, I missed about

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<v Speaker 2>like one. If had like one extra day, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have could have done it. My god, damn it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I missed all of the or most of the debate stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not playing it again, and on this time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just following one hundred percent guide and it's making

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot easier now because I have all the

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<v Speaker 2>social stats maxed out. So the guy says like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>go read the book to boost your wisdom, Like yo, dog,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need you anymore. Like yeah, I can just

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever. Ill you know, go vacuum and get more HP. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that tripped me up pretty bad. Was

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<v Speaker 2>about three fourths of the to the game, you unlock

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<v Speaker 2>like the Prince archetype. That's like the royal archetype for

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<v Speaker 2>the main character, right, And I guess I missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe the game said like, hey, your other characters

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<v Speaker 2>have royal archetypes as well, and I just didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I got like the last stage or like

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<v Speaker 2>the last big dungeon, I was like, Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really need like a blow by blow of the main

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<v Speaker 2>boss like to find a boss, but what are the

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<v Speaker 2>archetypes like GUIDs are suggesting, And it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>for the for the Lewis boss fight, have the main

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<v Speaker 2>character with the Prince, have Hulckenberg be the Royal Knight.

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<v Speaker 2>Have heist may be like the Royal Thief. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's this royal ship rh And I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at I'm looking at like Hulkenberg's like archetype map, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like where is this and where the prince architect

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<v Speaker 2>is in the map that's like where the Royal night

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<v Speaker 2>is for her, And I was like, god damn it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I've been grinding for like five hours

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<v Speaker 2>or four of this like and like filling up like

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<v Speaker 2>archetypes on these, on these like other characters that like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't need your you know, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like Hi's May needs like the faker archetype or bullshit

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<v Speaker 2>like right, And for most of these, I could have

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<v Speaker 2>just unlocked it from the get go. So like by

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<v Speaker 2>like the last safe point, it's I had like enough

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<v Speaker 2>XP experience architype stuff to like max out Hultenberg's like

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Night one, and I think that I'm not tis

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<v Speaker 2>May's like Royal Thief one, but that was it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a Royal Healer when I didn't hit it

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<v Speaker 2>all and a lot of them require like oh, the

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Thief you need to have like the tycoon job

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<v Speaker 2>to like level ten and like you know, the to

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<v Speaker 2>like double twenty. And it's like, well, for like the Royal Healer,

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<v Speaker 2>she had one like her advanced one was like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she needed the you know, wizard archetype to be like

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<v Speaker 2>level ten, and I'm like she is like two jobs

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<v Speaker 2>below that, like she's just barely hit the Mage one,

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<v Speaker 2>so to I'm locked, May, you know, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>unlock Mage then Wizard then like one more and hit

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<v Speaker 2>that had level ten, so that ain't gonna happen. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing all that I and I still hate that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that MP stuff in that game is just so limited.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at the last stage, it's just like if like

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<v Speaker 2>the gun or a guy forget his a name, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who runs your ship was like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last dungeon. So if you come back

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<v Speaker 2>to like the starting area, I can I can heal

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<v Speaker 2>your party and gave you full MP HP. That would

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<v Speaker 2>have been awesome because I could have ground in that

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<v Speaker 2>last dungeon for ten hours and I'm like, on that crap.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like no, ear screwed, Like you know, run

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<v Speaker 2>to the left, you know, do these like last six

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<v Speaker 2>boss fights, which are also like pretty hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>all the cool weapons and then run to the boss

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. It's like, great, when I hit the boss,

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<v Speaker 2>I have like one h MP thing left because I

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<v Speaker 2>burned it all these other stupid bosses.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no so it's like a total boss rush

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<v Speaker 1>at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a no you can't exploit. You can either.

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<v Speaker 2>You can ignore all the other bosses, but all the

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<v Speaker 2>other bosses give you like the like the best tier

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<v Speaker 2>weapons in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all right, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and there actually is a trophy where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you just ignore all the bosses and run to

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<v Speaker 2>the like the last guy, louis your trophy. But it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also make.

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<v Speaker 1>You make it harder for yourself. You get a trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, but I'll do it on this one because

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<v Speaker 2>you know I have all the experience. Well, they reset

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<v Speaker 2>your level, but not the archetype level. So once you

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<v Speaker 2>unlock the archetypes, then they're already maxed out or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they were from the last fight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. That way, it feels like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do stuff again and not right like, oh, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>at max everything killing these like level three goblins that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But because you do carry over your weapons, so

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<v Speaker 2>I already have like the best weapons. So some of

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<v Speaker 2>those fights are a lot more fun when you can

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<v Speaker 2>like one shot a boss or like, yeah, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>those boss taking ten rounds, it took three.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Cool, don't have to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Like an hour boss sight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, now just falling to guy and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of more fun actually, because you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>as concerned about what I need to do or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having to make money or grind this stuff out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I enjoy the game. I I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's their best work though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what I'm going to ask you, was, where is

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<v Speaker 1>this on your you know, we're getting we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>that time we've got only a couple of months left,

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<v Speaker 1>or but basically like a month left, where is this

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<v Speaker 1>on your game of the year?

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<v Speaker 2>It would probably be in my top ten, but it'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably be like kind of maybe like mid around number

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<v Speaker 2>five or so, or you know, in Geting number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that, or even like two or three.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, like the story didn't do much for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep hearing as everybody's saying the story.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a pretty some pretty good story twists, like

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<v Speaker 2>near the end, I think the I think the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of romance is actually kind of a problem because it's

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<v Speaker 2>harder to connect, I mean, for good or for bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's harder to connect with some of the characters. And

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<v Speaker 2>like one kind of one character does kind of come

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<v Speaker 2>off as a romantic interest, but it doesn't actually happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's like Hayes Mean is like a

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<v Speaker 2>really good character. He's like a little bat creature character.

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<v Speaker 2>He's cool. But some of the other ones are a

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<v Speaker 2>little more, especially like the later ones are a little

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<v Speaker 2>more not written that well or you know, not as

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<v Speaker 2>fleshed out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the same thing that happens with the

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<v Speaker 1>later ones in Persona five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like yeah, grew barely got Yeah, same thing happens

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<v Speaker 2>in this game. But because there's like a lot less game,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot less you know, time in this game, that right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it gets more more and more compressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you you weren't following the calendar for the first one,

420
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<v Speaker 1>did you feel like you needed it?

421
00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, Like I'm still a little salty I missed

422
00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:58.000
<v Speaker 2>like that one Bond day or whatever. But there's stuff

423
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.599
<v Speaker 2>in the game that like they could have exto better,

424
00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.079
<v Speaker 2>or you know, they could like the whole debate system,

425
00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.599
<v Speaker 2>like it would have been nice if they pointed this

426
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.480
<v Speaker 2>out a little better or had me do one at

427
00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the start and then say, hey, there are more of

428
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 2>these at specific dates, so look at the calendar, dumb ass,

429
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, they have a calendar, but it's pretty useless.

430
00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Right, because a lot of time, right to complete this stuff.

431
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, it just basically tells you, like when the when

432
00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the deadline is or whatever. Story Bet it's gonna happen.

433
00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>That's about it. It's not like, oh, these four characters

434
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you can you can interact with one of these four

435
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:40.039
<v Speaker 2>characters per day, right, there's like another menu that tells

436
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 2>you that pretty explicitly. But that's not everything you can

437
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>do in the game. But yeah, I'm having fun.

438
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:47.039
<v Speaker 1>That's important part.

439
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did try Prince of Persia, the Rogue Kingdom

440
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:58.519
<v Speaker 2>or Crown or Yeah, I don't think I like that game.

441
00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:00.799
<v Speaker 1>You don't. I'm surprised.

442
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't like it because I don't like

443
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the combat, like it's kind of too tough or uh,

444
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm just bad at it. But like the whole

445
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>encountering thing, I'm like not creat.

446
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:15.759
<v Speaker 1>It does take some getting used to. It's not I

447
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.799
<v Speaker 1>think I got I got killed by that first boss

448
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times and then I eventually like got it. Yeah,

449
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 1>but it takes a bit to the countering and the

450
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot easier on the regular enemies, but then

451
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>when you get to the boss, it's like they ramp.

452
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:36.240
<v Speaker 2>It up and I faced one boss kind of and

453
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.880
<v Speaker 2>that was actually fairly easy. I thought it was just

454
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:43.279
<v Speaker 2>like big dude swinging around the column. It was like

455
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty telegraph. That's why I thought it was easy. But

456
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I think it's kind of more challenging against

457
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.160
<v Speaker 2>like the regular enemies because you don't have a ton

458
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of health in the game, and you don't get a

459
00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.319
<v Speaker 2>lot of health back. You get like the two potions,

460
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>but that spot it. So I would say, all right, uh,

461
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.799
<v Speaker 2>if I lose three forces in my health on one

462
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 2>boss or one one enemy, that's not great. But I

463
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'll go back to it. I mean,

464
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I could bump it down the easy. I guess it's

465
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of admitting that I'm a loser, so I don't

466
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 2>want to quite do that yet. But yeah, yeah, I

467
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 2>just don't like the combat or just not clicking with

468
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 2>me personally.

469
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>But do you like like the rest of the game,

470
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>like the game, I'm still.

471
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Like the tutorial area okay where the demo, Yeah, I was,

472
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and I think the demo was better. I don't know,

473
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, same thing, but I think the

474
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>demo kind of accelerated the well.

475
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>The debt, like you start out a part that's before

476
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the demo, and then you get to the part where

477
00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the demo is, and then when you like before you

478
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>get to the like where the second world is, the

479
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 1>demo ends.

480
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, the demo actually, uh I was I

481
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:50.799
<v Speaker 2>was in the area with the demo, but they gave

482
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you that bow already or that was pretty quick, and

483
00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>now I don't have that at all, ah, and I

484
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 2>miss it. So I think that I think the demo

485
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>is explicitly I said, like, hey, this is a little

486
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.279
<v Speaker 2>more accelerated than the main right, give you to show

487
00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 2>you more of the combat. Uh So that's not fun.

488
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I may go back to it, but

489
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I may not.

490
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's still some things coming out still, so I

491
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't believe you if you don't anything else. No, yeah,

492
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 1>well I did, since I got it for that ten

493
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars upgrade. I said, you know, why the hell not

494
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>got that Horizons? It was down remastered.

495
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I may grab that. I'm not quite sure.

496
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I unlike you who you know you reviewed the first game,

497
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>right or both of them are okay. I I've never

498
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I've played like that first tutorial area when you're still young,

499
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>alois and I remember dropping it really fast. I don't

500
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 1>remember exactly why, probably because of something else came out

501
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that I was a lot more interested in at the time,

502
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 1>and then I just never went back to it. So

503
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, there's probably other things I

504
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 1>need to be playing, but I'm gonna give it a

505
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 1>like fair shake. And then it kind of got me

506
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>for I got all the way to the part where

507
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it's still early obviously, but it's I got to the

508
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:19.039
<v Speaker 1>part where she she does the proving ring and she's

509
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 1>you finally get the like crux of the story part,

510
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of sets you off on all right,

511
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you're out of the first area. Now you got to

512
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>go do this. But yeah, man, it's I like, I

513
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>like the just the kind of simple gameplay of just

514
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 1>all right, collect things. I love the way that the

515
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>bow feels when you like pull it back and it

516
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>slows down and shoot the machines and that feels fun.

517
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 1>They did that really well, and asked her about by

518
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the Way too, because it feels pretty much like the

519
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>same way. Yeah, and then yeah, just I like just

520
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>doing the upgrades and finding different things. So so I

521
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>went back. Man, I got lost for like I think

522
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half. I went back to the

523
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 1>ruins because I had seen where you could get like

524
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>one of those like artifact thing the power cells. Yeah,

525
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I went back looking for it. I find it, and

526
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 1>then I get completely lost trying to figure out how

527
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to get back to where you can get out of it.

528
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And I eventually had to go like find a I

529
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>had to go do a where it like make it

530
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 1>do a quest so it does the tracker, and the

531
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 1>tracker is still kind of confusing because the the numbers

532
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 1>keep going up and down, up and down. Until I

533
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 1>found a part where like, oh there's light, let me

534
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>just jump, and then she jumps out of the It's like,

535
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>holy crap. I could have figured this out like in

536
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, and I'm here for an hour and a

537
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>half wasted. I'm rolling around in this thing. Yeah, but no,

538
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it looks great. On the remaster part. You could

539
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely tell how much it looks better. You could tell

540
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 1>it looks a bit different, more like the Forbidden West

541
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>alois and things just look brighter, look look awesome. That

542
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds better, So you can you can tell that the

543
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>remaster work. They did a really good job on that,

544
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and it looks great on a on a four K TV.

545
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you have that ten dollars upgrade, and maybe

546
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you're like me, you haven't you got it for I

547
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>got it for free. I got that complete edition for

548
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 1>free when it was you know, they were giving it

549
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>away during the pandemic.

550
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I got That's how I got it too,

551
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 2>because I did review that game, but I have the

552
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>complete edition now for some reason.

553
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and that one gives you an extra tier

554
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 1>on the upgrades that you can you can get as

555
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 1>well for the Frozen Wiles or whatever expansion. So yeah,

556
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably add that to the list of things to

557
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>just I guess keep plugging away at at some point, Well.

558
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a good game that kind of you can just

559
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 2>put on like it's not like that involved necessarily, So yeah.

560
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Is that especially there's a lot of open world stuff

561
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>where you're just that part is very story heavy, but

562
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I know you get to like side quests as you

563
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 1>go on, So yeah, you can just like put on

564
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a podcast and kind of I listened.

565
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually listened to Jeff Gersmon podcast from like a

566
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>week or two ago when this thing came out, and

567
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>he made the point that I kind of agree with that,

568
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Like he likes the first horizon that more than the

569
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 2>second second one.

570
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Yeah, a lot of people liked Forbidden West.

571
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And like he didn't even finish Forbidden West. I mean

572
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I finished it, but he didn't like call like the

573
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>stupid clone bullshit. And uh, I don't like Forbidden West

574
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>because like they reduced the game. Like it's the same

575
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>problem I have with Amazing Spider Man too. It's like

576
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 2>they reduced they reduced the combat option and it kind

577
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 2>of made it like a more simple, simple game. And

578
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, you should have made this more complex

579
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>or I mean you went to act I like that.

580
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Like when you fight the first boss, you can use

581
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the trip castor if you want, or you can just

582
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>go around shooting there.

583
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>In the first game, you can set up you know,

584
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 2>there's no limit on the trip cast or bolts or whatever.

585
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>You can just set up twenty of them if you

586
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>want to do who cares. Yeah, the second game can

587
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 2>only set up like three, and if you set up

588
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 2>a fourth one like the first one goes away.

589
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 1>And I'm oh, I guess because people were abusing it

590
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>too much because they basically, you know, they like they

591
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>even explain it to you like, oh, you can set

592
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it up like one after the other to where you

593
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>could basically just constantly make him run into it and

594
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>he yeah, enemy never touches you.

595
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing who cares right like, you know, like

596
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I want.

597
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, part of it. You can do that if

598
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you want.

599
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And the second game if they don't have that.

600
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 1>So I'm all right, but yeah, I definitely kind of

601
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>get the whole The people that like it, I can

602
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of understand. I guess maybe Forbidding West they made

603
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the hand holds a lot more telegraph because yeah, one

604
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just kind of like where, yeah, where am

605
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I supposed to go? Here?

606
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Right?

607
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 1>So, but yeah, that's the kind of the main game

608
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I've been playing. And then today during my break and

609
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>then also at times here and there if it got slow,

610
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I tried out that Pokemon TCG pocket and it definitely

611
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 1>has the micro transaction. It's it's not hiding that at all.

612
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>It is definitely there to try to get you to

613
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 1>buy more card packs. Uh. They definitely they give you

614
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of card packs at the beginning to kind

615
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 1>of get you to you know, be cool with that

616
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and and want more. It's no, it's to me, like

617
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>I just got into the part where because you have

618
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to like get to like level three where it starts

619
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>doing the battle tutorial and then you can do battles

620
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>if you want. And then they have like a whole

621
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>AI not like a story, but like a whole challenge

622
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>thing that you can do if you want. You don't

623
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have to battle against other people if you don't want,

624
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but they do make get you know, it does have

625
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 1>like a big collection aspect, so it does make you

626
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>want to go do that, go collect the cards to

627
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>different cards, and it kind of tells you every time

628
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a new money that puts you puts it

629
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in the slot for you, like a polkad Ex, And

630
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>so I can kind of get why it's addicting for people.

631
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, and they give you a new card pack

632
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 1>every like twelve hours right now. They might extend that

633
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>at some point or less than I don't know if

634
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they what they'll do with that. Uh So, honestly, I

635
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 1>would tell people, don't waste money. Honestly, don't waste money

636
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting there blowing money, which obviously didn't till

637
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I want you to do. This thing's already made like

638
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a ton, and this is them only being able to

639
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>track iOS numbers. I can't imagine what it's doing on Android.

640
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But according to mobile gamer dobiz, since the game released,

641
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 1>it's made around three million dollars per day on its

642
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>debut weekend and twelve point one million in this first

643
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>four days, earning more revenue the Pokemon Go, which is

644
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 1>a huge testament to that game. And obviously Japan accounts

645
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 1>with like four percent of the total number of game

646
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>downloads and about forty five percent of the game's earnings.

647
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, Japan loves their mobile games stuff like that.

648
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 1>But I think what they're they're showing is like ten

649
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>point five on it, the million is on iOS, and

650
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>then one point six on Android. But still, I tell

651
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 1>you right now, don't waste money on that. Try to

652
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>do it by by waiting for the twelve hours or

653
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 1>doing some of the quests that it has you do.

654
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And at first you're getting a lot of packs, and

655
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they changed the packs. Eventually there's

656
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>only like three of them, three different packs that you get,

657
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and it does show you like a little preview of

658
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the cards that you can possibly get in those out

659
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of the three and then you know, I enjoy battling

660
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>with that. It doesn't have like the most It's very

661
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>simple like TCG battling thing as compared to like say

662
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yu Gio or Magic or some of the other ones.

663
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>So right, it's something easy for the kids to pick

664
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 1>up and play too. But you know, if you're a parent,

665
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>this is one that definitely make sure you have your

666
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 1>password protect on for the the purchases because you could

667
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>see the kiddos wanting to go crazy about but I

668
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>need the squirrel that's shiny, or I need the the

669
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>charges are that looks cool, like you know, and they

670
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>keep buying like five packs constantly. So but it's cool.

671
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Good to see that it's working for Nintendo and it

672
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 1>was worth the investment for them to bring that out.

673
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Taking a Pokemon have you seen any of the where

674
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>you typically grocery shopping.

675
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I go grocery shopping either at Walmart, but I go

676
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.599
<v Speaker 1>to like the green walmert. I try not to go

677
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to the big Walmart because.

678
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, Walmart doesn't have them. But at the Kroger's

679
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I occasionally go to they have the Pokemon vending card machine.

680
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh really okay, yeah, like the first.

681
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Time I went there wasn't working, Now now it was.

682
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it looks cool. I don't care about. But

683
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I can see what I could see a

684
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>kid being into this or you know, like bugging their

685
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>parents for oh yeah, three bucks or you know whatever.

686
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I see them there when I do go to Walmart.

687
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>They're there in the aisle when you check out and

688
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that.

689
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what it was, I can actual like machine, right,

690
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that's cool because I guess I guess the reason they're

691
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>doing this is like, yeah, stores were getting fed up

692
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>with like, you know, having to care about this crap

693
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, well, I mean.

694
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And also makes it a lot easier for the scalpers

695
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 1>to come in and take the stuff, right, it's harder

696
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have to buy like random packs. Well, yeah,

697
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's Uh, that's kind of it for me as

698
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>far as what I've been playing. So I guess let's

699
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>go on. Uh there's one game I can't talk about

700
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 1>that literally the code just came in today, so in

701
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks, I guess we'll get to it. But yes,

702
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>let's get on with the news, which I guess let's

703
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>really quick just to get this out of the way

704
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't take them long to get through Paystation

705
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Plus stuff for this month, which by the time you're

706
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>listening to this or watching it, if you're watching it

707
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 1>past the fifth of November, you could pick up the

708
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>games for November, which one of them is Hot Wheels

709
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>on Least two Turbo Charged, which if I remember right,

710
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>people still liked one a little bit more than this,

711
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 1>but hey, you can get it for free, so why

712
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 1>not if you subscribe to Plus Ghost Bar Tokyo, which

713
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>is obviously you know, used to be PUS exclusive. It's

714
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>on game Pass now because the you know it's there.

715
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 1>And then they have a new game they releasing Day one,

716
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Death Note Killer Within, which is like an online social

717
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>deduction game where you're look it looks really kind of simple.

718
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very it was made for the multiplayer. This is

719
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 1>not I wouldn't you know. I think it's something cool

720
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to check out if you're a fan of Death Note,

721
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 1>which I am, but I'm not going to check this out.

722
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

723
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>You get to either be team l or Team Kira

724
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 1>and do one of the other, either figure out who

725
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the killer is or figure out the person that needs

726
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to be killed or whatever. It's a pretty simple concept.

727
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if it does anything for bend on Namco

728
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>as far as like social interaction and whatnot. But I

729
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>could kind of see this is kind of hitting and

730
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>then not going very far. But we'll see.

731
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it'll be some I mean to make Yeah,

732
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 2>definitely a billion copies.

733
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>But the big story here for Sony this week is

734
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this. I feel like it's not that

735
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>long ago that they shut down Concord h and then

736
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there was an idea that they were possibly going to

737
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>bring it back to be free to play. There was

738
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>some like updates that were being kind of backloaded into

739
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the game while it was being well, it was still

740
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 1>shut down, and then the announcement came that I think

741
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>either you or I or both of us, I can't remember.

742
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I meant to go back and listen to the episode

743
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 1>and then I didn't get to you while I was

744
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>working that I can't which one of us said it,

745
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>but that they wouldn't bring it back at all, and

746
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not a prediction.

747
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's probably me. Yeah I'm a negative one, but

748
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I think.

749
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling the same thing that there was just

750
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a there's a situation this game was just

751
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>too polluted, it was too like, it was so negative

752
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 1>the vibe that there's no way you could bring this back.

753
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think Sony finally kind of looked at it,

754
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe pull the Warner Brothers discovery and said, you know what,

755
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe we might as well us take the loss on this,

756
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>get a ride off, and get seventy five million back

757
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>or something out of this, which is way way, way

758
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 1>less than what they paid for it. But still the

759
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>point is Sonny wanted this to be gone from existence,

760
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and this is basically a way for them to completely

761
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 1>finish this off. It's not coming back. The refunded everybody

762
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>already when they were interesting refund people even who bought

763
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it physical. I think that was kind of the telltale

764
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 1>sign that for sure, this thing is not not happening.

765
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>What sucks is that they're also now closing down the studios. Well,

766
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 1>so Firewalks Studios is closed right now. They are going

767
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to try to put in as many of the developers

768
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>as they possibly can into other studios at Sony or

769
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>other PlayStation studios, but there's no oh like indicative number,

770
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 1>so it could be there's I think. And also they

771
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>shut down the Neon KOI one of their mobile studios,

772
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 1>which they had bought not too not too long ago.

773
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>They were supposally be working on a shooter and then

774
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.079
<v Speaker 1>that somehow got canned when they let go of the

775
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the person that they hired to head their mobile studios,

776
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and then they were working on another game. But we'd

777
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>add that Herman Hosts is an adventure game, but they

778
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>don't name the game or anything like that, so it's

779
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>just kind of nebulous as far as what that was concerned.

780
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>But they closed down both of those studios. I think

781
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>in total, it's two hundred and ten employees, and we

782
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many of those two hundred and ten

783
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 1>employees are going to still be working at Sony after

784
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>they get done doing all of the stuff that they're

785
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 1>going to do. Herman Hosts, you know, kind of made

786
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 1>a stay saying that, oh, there was some things about

787
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Concord that worked, but a lot of it didn't hit,

788
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:11.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, with with the audience, and you know, they

789
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit their targets for what they wanted. So and

790
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 1>then I mean, obviously, when you invest two hundred million, uh,

791
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and then also you bought the studio, you're paying salaries

792
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of all these workers and all the extra investment they

793
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 1>had to do to get the game where it was,

794
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 1>which is where Colin Moriarty came out with that four

795
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 1>hundred million number from the dev that he talked to.

796
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 1>So I think that kind of vindicates him a little

797
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 1>bit because there was a lot of journalists that were

798
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>upset at the fact that he kind of just threw

799
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>if they were saying that he basically just like threw

800
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the number out there, and it's like he was talking

801
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to a source. And then you kind of look at

802
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it and it's like, I think Sony knew they also

803
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>had to like get a lot of that back as well.

804
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 1>And then and I think if you look at a

805
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>bigger picture, this kind of puts Bunge in a bad

806
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 1>spot as well, because if Marathon doesn't hit, where where

807
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 1>does that go for them?

808
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Like at Marathon is not going to hit correctly because

809
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>they I think you're touched on it today or a

810
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 2>few days ago, that it's gonna be some extracting tutor,

811
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 2>but like a you know, some action oriented you know extraction. Shoot,

812
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like that's not exactly what people want, you know.

813
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it's also a very crowded market, which is

814
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem, yeah, itself. And then also it's like, Okay,

815
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you might get a little bit of help the fact

816
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 1>that this is multi platform, but are you really going

817
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to get that much? And then it's like every time

818
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>they talk about the game, it's not great news either, Right,

819
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of negative. Oh, it's not ready to

820
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>show we've made progress, but you know, and it's like

821
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 1>it feels like everything that comes out of Bungee Is

822
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 1>is not positive.

823
00:42:58.400 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 2>You know.

824
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 1>They they announce that they have the lower the amount

825
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of updates they're going to do for Destiny. They're going

826
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to do like smaller updates instead of the one big

827
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 1>expansion or whatever now too long ago that we talked

828
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 1>about too. And it kind of feels like this is

829
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 1>that how much of this is the old regime, right

830
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of Jim Ryan, and how much of us are we

831
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>going to put on the current regime that kind of

832
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 1>decided to keep this going, right they could. They decided

833
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 1>to keep investing in Firewalk and bring it out the

834
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>way it was, even though there was early beta tests

835
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and and other things that were telling you they didn't

836
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 1>it was a good It was a good game in essence,

837
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of things that weren't driving even

838
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 1>back then, and then when the game comes out, it's

839
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 1>just hits a lot of different points. Aside from the grifters,

840
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even talking about them, right, there's just regular

841
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>people that had issues with the game that are not

842
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>not trying to, you know, start a stupid story about

843
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>d and all that crap. So what do you think

844
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 1>this means for like Sony's whole live service stuff. Do

845
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>you think that this really gets them to have to

846
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 1>rethink that and go, what do we do with the

847
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>rest of these games?

848
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think most of the live service

849
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff is not gonna it's not gonna come out. I

850
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:24.599
<v Speaker 2>think that Horizon thing might come out, and Marathon will

851
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>come out, but I don't think it's gonna be like

852
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the traditional like live service game and Herman Hult saying like, oh,

853
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 2>this live service game Concord didn't hit correctly. It's like

854
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't what Concord is supposed to be, Like it

855
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a battle pass, it didn't have it wasn't

856
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.119
<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't like free to play.

857
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, like, yeah, they they heard it from

858
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the beginning with that forty dollars price point too.

859
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think even if the game was like

860
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, free to play necessarily, it might not have

861
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 2>hit correctly, but more people probably would have played it.

862
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>But I I think, like I actually you think, like

863
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, the art style and a lot of a

864
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 2>message in that game did hurt it. So that is

865
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of on them, you know.

866
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think obviously, look, this live service push

867
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was started by Jim Ryan, right, so it again leads

868
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to that whole thought of did he leave or did

869
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Sony kind of tell him?

870
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yo?

871
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Man, I think that's kind of we're getting to the end,

872
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to you're starting to spend a lot, we're

873
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>not seeing a lot of return. And then they kind

874
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of look at the big spend and they look at

875
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>where those games are at and they go, oh, this

876
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>might be a mistake. And when they're starting to find

877
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the person that they're gonna blame, they go, oh, man,

878
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Jim Ryan, We're not going to renew

879
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 1>your contract, and you know all that stuff. It's just

880
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 1>like it feels very eerie that he left all of

881
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, and then all these things start kind of

882
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 1>going in a domino down you know, Factions is canceled,

883
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you get the stuff with Concord, Destiny is not doing well.

884
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Did you spend did you buy Destiny? Did you buy

885
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Bungee and then not realize the mess that they're in.

886
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it feels like a lot of bad decisions, right, Yeah,

887
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>as Dragon Hero zero zero put it, you know, they

888
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>never should have tried to make that game. Yeah. I

889
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know who looked at that and said that this

890
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>was going to be the next Star Wars or the

891
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>next big thing. They were completely wrong about that, obviously.

892
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 2>I think that. No, I think I think they're completely right.

893
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's it's the next current Star Wars thing

894
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to the good Star Wars. Look what a

895
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 2>big success Acolyte is. Yep, it's the next Star Wars thing.

896
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Accolade had more fans than this game did. Though.

897
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm so surprised by those people that went

898
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 1>out there and got the platinum and did all that stuff. Again, again,

899
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>they made a good game, but it's just like there's

900
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff around. It just didn't work right

901
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for the people that are working there, which this

902
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is the bigger point. It sucks for all these all

903
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the devs that may lose their jobs, may have to

904
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>go find work outside of Sony. Now, whenever this, I'm

905
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:31.760
<v Speaker 1>sure we'll get the news on how many people are

906
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.199
<v Speaker 1>being retained and all that stuff that sucks. I hate

907
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to see that for them. The Neon Koi thing is

908
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 1>weird also because it's like we never even got to

909
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 1>know what they were working on. And then was this

910
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>also started by Jim Ryan as well, this let's get

911
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>into mobile, and then it seems like they're a bit

912
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 1>more less gunshot about that. Hermit Holst says that they

913
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 1>know that they have to get into mobile, but it

914
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>needs to live up to the quality of PlayStation, right, which, okay,

915
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 1>that's nice of you to say, but can you actually

916
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 1>do that? And it's like, maybe you had the right

917
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 1>idea with Bungee, Right, get somebody that's used to doing

918
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>live service to do the live service game that obody exists,

919
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and they make you a live service game that's starting

920
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 1>fresh with you in Marathon, even though Marathon used to

921
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>exist previously on PC and whatever. But they didn't do

922
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the same with mobile, And I feel like that's where

923
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 1>obviously Microsoft got the biggest fish in the pond with King.

924
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't really go any bigger than that.

925
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But even Sega went and got Robio, and it's like, obviously,

926
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 1>now you can't go just buy a company because you've

927
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 1>made all these other mistakes. But it's like, it's weird

928
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 1>that somebody didn't go and try to buy a more

929
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.840
<v Speaker 1>known mobile game developer that obody had something that they

930
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>could kind of count on for revenue and say, okay, well,

931
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 1>now work on this for us, like a Horizon mobile game,

932
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, put Lastamus factions on mobile, or

933
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>do you think that they have a franchise that's that

934
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>would be good for that arena, or because like a

935
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of their stuff's like narrative based, so tear away. Yeah,

936
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, could you have done something with like

937
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 1>that Ghost of Sushima multiplayer and kind of transferred that

938
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>over to mobile as well? Possibly people like that thing.

939
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I just I feel like you got to start with

940
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>something that I guess you could say. It's kind of

941
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 1>like what they're doing with the Destiny mobile game is

942
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 1>that's being developed by Netty's and it's kind of different

943
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 1>than it's not really going into Destiny too per se,

944
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>but like start somewhere there something that's being made with

945
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>mobile in mind, and it's also going to be on

946
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 1>console to get them to play together instead of saying, Okay,

947
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>here's this mobile game that we're making. Hope you play it,

948
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 1>because right now it's I don't know that. None of

949
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 1>that feels good. Maybe Destiny will work because Nettes knows

950
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing with mobile, but I don't know the

951
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 1>rest of the stuff is just like even when Nintendo

952
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 1>was making it right, they have games that are that

953
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:11.719
<v Speaker 1>work with mobile, right, like Mario Kart.

954
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I think like, it can't make like a wipeout iOS game.

955
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>They're kind of cool to me.

956
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, they did do that right, but it didn't.

957
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 1>It didn't do that well because it's not it's like.

958
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>We did if it made a good wipe out, you know.

959
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 2>I think the problem is a lot of Sonny stuff

960
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>is more as console sized and focused, right, so they

961
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.719
<v Speaker 2>can't just you know, make make a Spider Man iOS game.

962
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, it's gonna be so dumb down tonight,

963
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 2>like resemble Amazing Spider Man. So what's your point a

964
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man endless, endless Runner or endless Swinger? You know

965
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of funny, but.

966
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know that Disney would

967
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>go for that either, because it's like they want to

968
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>return on the investment, all right, But it's like, how

969
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>do you turn the Last of Us or Horizon or

970
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 1>insert s Go Sushima whatever into a mobile game? Yeah,

971
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 1>like a spin off that's only mobile and then you know,

972
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>get them to play that.

973
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 2>That was the problem Sony had when they had the Vita.

974
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Remember that Uncharted a game that no one liked, Like,

975
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 2>oh you know, it's like the console experience experience of

976
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, Uncharted and in your hand. It's like, well no,

977
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>because this is bad, and mobile gamer want different stuff

978
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 2>out of They don't want just you know, the hand

979
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the console experience it in your hand, and they also.

980
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Don't want to pay twenty thirty dollars to have that

981
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 1>experience either.

982
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 2>That's what that iOS Resident Evil stuff is bearing out

983
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 2>quite nicely, like no one's.

984
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Because it's literally gotcha free to play something that costs

985
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 1>very little to get into and then you keep playing

986
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>after that. It's like even Nintendo had to realize that

987
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 1>themselves when they did it. They wanted to charge you

988
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount for the game, and then gamers were like,

989
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, mobile games were like I don't want that,

990
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and they had to make it free to play, you know,

991
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and now they're making I think, what the was it

992
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 1>pocket camp?

993
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 2>We camp with without without any of the crap in it? Yeah,

994
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 2>it's good. I man, if I was gonna play that,

995
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather play that one.

996
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Right for me? This is just it's kind of like

997
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 1>the that culmination of where the industry is of going

998
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for that live service game. It not hitting doing it

999
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>in a very crowded space, and we still have marbile

1000
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Bibles that hasn't fully come out yet. That's going to

1001
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>be very interesting to see if that hits the zeitgeist

1002
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>or that thing dies as well, because just because you

1003
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>have the Marble I P which is not in a

1004
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 1>great place right now, doesn't mean that it's gonna hit.

1005
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.199
<v Speaker 1>And if that failed, that's another one that's like, are

1006
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>we getting to the point where it's like, there's just

1007
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>no way you can the what happened with hell Divers

1008
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 1>too was very special and the chance of accomplishing that

1009
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that is the exception, not the not the norm exactly.

1010
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's it's we hadn't had a game that's very much

1011
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 1>like Hell Divers too is in a long time, so

1012
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 1>it hit a certain area of live service sort of

1013
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer push, whereas the other ones are kind of going

1014
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 1>into genres that are already full. You're gonna do another

1015
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>distraction shooter. I can't imagine, even with the pedigree of

1016
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Bungee Marathon is gonna do that well? Right. Uh, let's

1017
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 1>say Marvel Rivals kind of doesn't hit what they wanted

1018
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 1>to do. Uh, that's another again, another section of gaming

1019
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in live service that's full. Like you're you're trying to

1020
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>get people that albody play these live service games off

1021
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 1>of that game to play your new game, and most

1022
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of them still don't want to do that, right. It's

1023
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think about that. People are still playing

1024
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Fortnite and pubg and all that all these years later,

1025
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>but they're doing it right. So, especially if you're gonna

1026
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 1>pull a forty dollars price stag, your game better be

1027
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>awesome because they're used to not paying anything. That's that's

1028
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.159
<v Speaker 1>not easy to get somebody to go I want to

1029
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>pay forty blucks. I think Hell Divers hit because it

1030
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 1>hit with a PlayStation audience. Yes, it was big on PC,

1031
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>no doubt on that. It hit a huge audience for PC.

1032
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's the kind of game that gels

1033
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>with PC very well. Whereas you know, it's just not

1034
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a thing for Concord and all that didn't work.

1035
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's the thing, Hell Divers too. Like it's

1036
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not a unique package necessarily, but it's fun and

1037
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it does have some creative stuff going on with it.

1038
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I gues it's not wholly unique. It's just a third

1039
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>person shooter, but like all the call and command stuff

1040
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 2>and like the frenetic nature of the multiplayer that's what

1041
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 2>makes it. It's like a creative part.

1042
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1043
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know then go, you know, open to that

1044
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Marvel thing going, it's help We're watched with Marvel crap.

1045
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, okay, sure, I guess yeah.

1046
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 1>And so the the CWA, which is a union, also

1047
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>had an issue on the you know, the employee side

1048
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 1>of things, right that we talked about that due to

1049
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>them not having you know, collective bargaining or anything like that,

1050
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they had no say in how the workers you know,

1051
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>jobs are going to be impacted. And they put out

1052
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 1>a pretty like kind of nasty statement saying that Sony

1053
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>decision to dissolve studios outside their wall guarden a PlayStation

1054
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>expeosive content rather than making games that have to compete

1055
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 1>in the highly diverse and competitive mobile game market, should

1056
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.440
<v Speaker 1>be a cautionary warning sign of Sony interest in furthering

1057
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 1>their monopoly position in the video game industry. Uh that,

1058
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:59.320
<v Speaker 1>basically Sony is an anti competitive and you know, they

1059
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.679
<v Speaker 1>hope that the regulators look at this or whatever. I don't.

1060
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they will, but.

1061
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't see how they're like a monopoly either,

1062
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>or you know, it's not like.

1063
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:13.760
<v Speaker 1>They're they're not a monopoly because Nintendo's basically right there.

1064
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter whether you want to include Nintendo in

1065
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the conversation or not. If you're going to compare them

1066
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>only to Xbox, then yes, right right, But PC is

1067
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>part of gaming, and so is and that's why they're

1068
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to get into PC, and Nintendo is part of gaming.

1069
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 1>And Nintendo is technically like number one by itself over

1070
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there just selling switches like nobody's business and still selling them.

1071
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I think that that's staying by the

1072
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>CWA is kind of like, okay, cool, I'm glad you're

1073
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>defending the employees or whatever, which obviously they need to

1074
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>be defended. It's not their fault, right to other people

1075
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.039
<v Speaker 1>just working on the game, they're not They're not Herman Holst,

1076
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not Jim Ryan, they're not the other heads that

1077
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Sony making the decisions. They're just out there doing their job. Uh.

1078
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.159
<v Speaker 1>And then people that make the creative decisions that decide, Okay,

1079
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 1>these are the characters who won this game. This is

1080
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the kind of narrative we're gon We're gonna make it

1081
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a narrative focus kind of thing and whatever. You know,

1082
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:15.480
<v Speaker 1>all those decisions that ultimately impacted why the game failed

1083
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have to do with the dev So I

1084
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 1>understand that while the CV is defending them and all

1085
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but you know, this is a bigger issue

1086
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>industry wide, and I think just to kind of bring

1087
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>this in as well, Sean Laden once again, it feels

1088
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 1>like he's we've had, We've talked about him bringing a

1089
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>piece of information, uh that kind of brings out about

1090
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the industry itself. Also should note I forgot to note

1091
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 1>that Wolverine might possibly in trouble as well, just to

1092
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of add to this thing with something there the

1093
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 1>game designer Brian Horton who used to who actually worked

1094
00:57:55.280 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 1>on worked with Insomniac previously when he worked with them

1095
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Xbox side to do Oh, why can't I

1096
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 1>think of that game right now? Some sit over drive yep.

1097
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And then he went over with when ins when they

1098
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>were bought, when Sonac was bought by so many, he

1099
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:19.039
<v Speaker 1>went over he did Miles Morales.

1100
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1101
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, after working previously on tomb Raider

1102
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and Rise of the tomb Raider. Yeah, and then he's

1103
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the one that's kind of the creative lead on Wolverine,

1104
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and then kind of randomly, thanks to game File, it's

1105
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 1>been reported that he left. But then he went over

1106
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to Xbox a perfect dark which is weird because it's

1107
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 1>like Insomniac's doing it. That's the only that's one of

1108
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the few studios and somebody has it. Every time they

1109
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 1>make a game. It's it's automatic, like you know it's

1110
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be great. And then to go over to

1111
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>like a studio where you have no idea what's going

1112
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>on there, you.

1113
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Know, that's kind of sam NaKaT has had one or two.

1114
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Misses, Yeah, but for the most part, they don't right, you.

1115
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Know, what's funny is I'm friends of that dude on Facebook.

1116
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh you are.

1117
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't talk to him anything. I mean, I guess

1118
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 2>added them or you know. But yeah, I believe I'm

1119
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>not gonna I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna just

1120
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:21.719
<v Speaker 2>message him and go, hey, what's going on? You know?

1121
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I don't think he's gonna tell you either.

1122
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, either get me an instant block and an instant uh.

1123
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1124
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just adding this on to the right

1125
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.599
<v Speaker 1>just because it is another kind of negative.

1126
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was interesting, Yeah, just because it was.

1127
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:40.960
<v Speaker 2>It kind of came out of nowhere, just.

1128
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Like exactly, and then you know, you get the ratchet

1129
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and clank leads kind of now they're the ones in

1130
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>charge of it.

1131
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Just it is.

1132
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It is true. We really haven't heard much on it.

1133
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 1>And then of course they had the negative with the

1134
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.679
<v Speaker 1>with the terrible leak and everything and people were playing

1135
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>unauthorized like early version of the game and stuff like that,

1136
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to which probably set them back a ton because they

1137
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 1>might have had to like delete all those assets and

1138
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.639
<v Speaker 1>start all over again and everything else, which again that

1139
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely sucks. Like let's be let's be fair about that.

1140
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That shouldn't have happened. But yeah, it's just it's kind

1141
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of a situation like just of

1142
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of where those their next kind of

1143
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>push was going, and you still got fair games out there.

1144
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 1>What's that gonna happen? What's gonna happen with Haven? With that?

1145
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, are they gonna how how long of aleis

1146
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 1>is Sony gonna give them when that game comes out?

1147
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1148
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>If it ever does, I wonder if that's causing Sony

1149
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to have to kind of look at things and go,

1150
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, are we gonna are we

1151
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 1>willing to bet? Put a big bet out there on this? Yeah,

1152
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the only one that might be safe

1153
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>right now is the Horizon one because you know, her

1154
01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and Hosts and Gorilla have that connection where I don't

1155
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.559
<v Speaker 1>know that he's gonna put one of his babies down,

1156
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 1>And even then I think they wouldn't. They would have

1157
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 1>announced if they were going to cancel that or whatever.

1158
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>So that thing's still kind of going. But back to

1159
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 1>my original thing there with Sean Laydon talking about this time,

1160
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 1>he's bringing up the whole you know, game budgets can't

1161
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.480
<v Speaker 1>possibly remain in the triple digit millions that they are

1162
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:32.079
<v Speaker 1>right now with He brings up that, let's say they

1163
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 1>get it down with the current level of game development,

1164
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he says, it's gotten higher than it was ten years ago,

1165
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.840
<v Speaker 1>which he says used to It's used to be around

1166
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 1>like twenty million, fifty million in the Blizzard book. I

1167
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>think when they announced the cancellation of Titan, that was

1168
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like eighty million. And then we're sitting here talking about

1169
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Concord today somewhere between two hundred to four hundred million. Crazy,

1170
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 1>crazy number to think about where we were years ago. Right.

1171
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing though, is people years ago weren't demanding

1172
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 2>four kid visuals.

1173
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>That and also just you can't make just good games anymore.

1174
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 1>You have to make great game now, Like a decent

1175
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 1>game doesn't do anything for the bottom line, right, It's

1176
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it has to like hit it out of the park.

1177
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.119
<v Speaker 1>It has to be the game people are playing. What

1178
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.800
<v Speaker 1>did we talk about with Prince of Persia last week? Right,

1179
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 1>metro Vania like that, getting a million sales should be

1180
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 1>awesome for that game.

1181
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, and they spend what owever god knows how much

1182
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 2>on it.

1183
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:46.199
<v Speaker 1>But Ubisoft is in such a turmoil themselves that apparently

1184
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 1>that's nothing for them and they needed to disband the studio.

1185
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So can you imagine if Sony's spending the amount that

1186
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>they're spending, how much your game has to be a hit?

1187
01:02:58.760 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Right? Like?

1188
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 1>That was the thing that we found out with the

1189
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man two the leak was that how much they

1190
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 1>spent on that game and how much it had to

1191
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 1>sell for them to just make a profit on it,

1192
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 1>which was crazy also, right, I.

1193
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Know, I talked about like last week that Sony said

1194
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago, Sony that Spider Man two isn't

1195
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna have any DLC. Yeah, And I said, okay, what

1196
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:22.159
<v Speaker 2>about spinoff games?

1197
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Like I got it, they got to be making three, right, like,

1198
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:27.199
<v Speaker 1>they got to bet that.

1199
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.559
<v Speaker 2>But I'm at like Venom, like have a standalone Venom game,

1200
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:33.039
<v Speaker 2>because that was also in like the debug leak of

1201
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man two is yo, you can play Venom in

1202
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 2>this like all the way through and even had like

1203
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:41.760
<v Speaker 2>his own move set, like it was different from the

1204
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 2>move set Venom has in the game, you know, the

1205
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:44.840
<v Speaker 2>limited moves that you already have.

1206
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:48.320
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if they were hoping the movie would

1207
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 1>do well and then that could maybe see if that

1208
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.679
<v Speaker 1>gets a push for a Venom game. But I just

1209
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine right now that they're doing a Venom game.

1210
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I get that, Yeah, they can reuse you know, say,

1211
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 2>percent of those assets at least, and it'll be like

1212
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Miles Morales, you know.

1213
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, and it brings up a good point

1214
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's kind of what Sean Laden was pointing at,

1215
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>is that we need to get back to the world

1216
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 1>where double A exists again. Yeah, because right now we're

1217
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in that divide where it's like triple A. Then you

1218
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:25.639
<v Speaker 1>got like the Triple A indie games, and then you

1219
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 1>got indie games, and you don't have a lot of

1220
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 1>double A. Actually, technically metaphor a lot of aalys's output.

1221
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 1>You could consider double A like metaphor Unicorn Overlord all that.

1222
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 1>You could consider all of that double A. But that's

1223
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 1>very like I don't know where you consider like Yakuza

1224
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:48.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

1225
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:52.280
<v Speaker 2>But that's another good example, like you know, Kuza games

1226
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:53.920
<v Speaker 2>will use a ton of shit from games.

1227
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, how do you think, uh, Pirate, Yakuza, Hawaii

1228
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever exists because they use reuse half that.

1229
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:03.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, let's proves it up and we'll have like

1230
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 2>some new environments, but hey, you'll hit up Hawaii and

1231
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it'll it might be like a little change from like

1232
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>a dragon, but not much so.

1233
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 1>But what do you think about I thought this Steven

1234
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 1>was actually very clear to Part of the problem too,

1235
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 1>is that he says, we're trying to get more people

1236
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:25.519
<v Speaker 1>into playing games. Clearly people are not playing games, and

1237
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 1>they're not playing games because they're not interested in what

1238
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 1>we're giving them. Well, we're giving them a sequel to

1239
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the things they weren't interested in the first place. I

1240
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:34.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's going to get them through the door.

1241
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense to me.

1242
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But also like that Sony is not exactly pumping out

1243
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 2>new game IP after new game IP, or you know,

1244
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 2>a new game after new.

1245
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Game, like unfortunately the new IP is aimed at the

1246
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer live service stuff that they don't want. So people

1247
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want so you know, uh, that's the thing when

1248
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it you know, he also brings up the whole the

1249
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 1>number can't keep going up, right, the number?

1250
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the same thing I keep making fun about

1251
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Phil Spencer when he says, like I want there to

1252
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.559
<v Speaker 2>be a billion gamers. It's like that's only going to happen.

1253
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 2>We have thirty billion people on the planet, Like, you know,

1254
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 2>that'll never happen realistically.

1255
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, costs have to come down, people have to get

1256
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 1>more realists. I under it's understandable. Right as Sony's about

1257
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to start in three days, the PlayStation five Pro is

1258
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:40.239
<v Speaker 1>about to become available for everybody to buy. Where you

1259
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.159
<v Speaker 1>got it on pre order or not. It's you can

1260
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 1>already watch on boxing videos on YouTube. The actual specs

1261
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.199
<v Speaker 1>are out there, sixteen point seven terror filops, all that

1262
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's supposed to make graphics even better. That's another

1263
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.360
<v Speaker 1>skew that developers have to build for and everything, which

1264
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure costs. And then that's the problem. Technology keeps

1265
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 1>getting better. I don't know if we're ever going to

1266
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 1>go far into eight K or not, but even to

1267
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>do like you said, four K is no joke. That's

1268
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money that you have to spend. And

1269
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a baseline that gamers expect now with frame you know,

1270
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have to do sixty frames and have to do all

1271
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 1>this stuff and ray tracing and all of this, and

1272
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like, can you go backwards and spend less? And

1273
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:38.840
<v Speaker 1>would gamers be okay with that? Right? Like, where are

1274
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.519
<v Speaker 1>our gamers willing to accept that a lot of your

1275
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 1>games are going to go backwards in order for them

1276
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 1>to continue. Right, You're still going to have Call of

1277
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Duty looking amazing, and you're still going to have the

1278
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:55.239
<v Speaker 1>games that can still sell out all the time, are

1279
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:58.119
<v Speaker 1>still going to keep pushing the graphics. But there's going

1280
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.599
<v Speaker 1>to be if you want that series that is kind

1281
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 1>of teetering on the brink of maybe no longer existing,

1282
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you might have to be okay with them, like you said,

1283
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 1>for using assets all of those things to keep or

1284
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.560
<v Speaker 1>making spinoffs, and do have the spinoff do well so

1285
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.479
<v Speaker 1>you can get the next mainline entry or whatever.

1286
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:20.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1287
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:23.479
<v Speaker 1>What I also meant by the number can't keep going

1288
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 1>up is the number of how much you pay for

1289
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a game can't keep going up either to offset this,

1290
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Like you really think people are going to start paying

1291
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars for a game when other costs of

1292
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.399
<v Speaker 1>things are going to get expensive or are still expensive. No,

1293
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe grand Theft Autal six, maybe maybe Call of Duty,

1294
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe things like that that are one time buys and

1295
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 1>they play the whole time. But people are going to

1296
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 1>get even more conservative the more you raise the price.

1297
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think he brings up a good point, when

1298
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.199
<v Speaker 1>will the industry get there? Will they ever get there?

1299
01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like, unfortunately, we're gonna get

1300
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot more bad still before we get this getting

1301
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:11.720
<v Speaker 1>back to a little bit more normalcy. I guess we're

1302
01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:13.399
<v Speaker 1>not having layoffs every week.

1303
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see.

1304
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But all right, enough of the bad news for a

1305
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit here, let's talk about I guess some I

1306
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:28.439
<v Speaker 1>guess good news for Xbox for once, or positive Xbox

1307
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 1>first this year, it's not for I feel like we

1308
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit. But for the most part, You're right,

1309
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.479
<v Speaker 1>it feels like we're mostly talking about negative stuff. But

1310
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 1>first of all, game Pass they just revealed their games

1311
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that are coming out for this first part of November,

1312
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.279
<v Speaker 1>so starting tomorrow on the fifth for PC game Pass

1313
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and game Pass Ultimate, which lets you have PC game

1314
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Pass as well, you get StarCraft Remastered in StarCraft two

1315
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 1>campaign collection. That's a pretty good get on the for

1316
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the activity bringing out Division games over Blizzard games. So

1317
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that's if you never played those, or you've been wanting

1318
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to play them and didn't want to buy them or something.

1319
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Definitely those are some great campaigns there. Yeah, to go

1320
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to check out a game I've been winning on. Metal

1321
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Slug Tactics comes out also tomorrow on Everything Cloud console PC,

1322
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:27.039
<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to be checking that out this week.

1323
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that's actually pretty hard. We'll see how that goes.

1324
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 1>The Goat Simulator are remastered, also comes day and date

1325
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 1>on game Pass on the seventh, and then you get

1326
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft Flight Simulator on November nineteenth, coming out to Everything

1327
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. And then they have a bunch of stuff

1328
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that's now going to be on Standard that used to

1329
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>be on Ultimate only Go Meca Ball, Harold Hallibut, the

1330
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Rewinder and turn up Board Robs. The banquet is actually

1331
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty actually yeah, Harold Halibut was Actually it's actually really good.

1332
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just said, you know, it's literally a walking simulator

1333
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that looks really cool because stop motion and all that.

1334
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:06.880
<v Speaker 1>So if you like those kind of games, I would

1335
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 1>check it. But yeah, I'm excited to play Metalsol Tactics.

1336
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'd be excited to fight Similiator, but I don't

1337
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:16.319
<v Speaker 2>have game Pass.

1338
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you knows. Buy on PC, I guess.

1339
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I just bought four as the Horizon four and I

1340
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:26.680
<v Speaker 2>find it's funny. I played it like a few days ago. Yeah,

1341
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was like this, look, this seems familiar. And

1342
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until like an hour and I was like,

1343
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.159
<v Speaker 2>already had this game, it's just not on Steam and

1344
01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it didn't pull in my save.

1345
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh dang.

1346
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh you you know, I drove. I

1347
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 2>drove on Run Row one road. It's like you and

1348
01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Lock five hundred and twenty five discovered five hundred and

1349
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:50.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty four roads out of six hundred, and I was like, what, okay, okay.

1350
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Now I found out. I guess said. Also, a lot

1351
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.439
<v Speaker 1>of Sega Atlas stuff is leaving game pass on the

1352
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth percent of five Tactica like a Dragon, the man

1353
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:01.640
<v Speaker 1>who raced his name like a Dragon, Eishan all leaving

1354
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the service, So you know, play those if you still

1355
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 1>want to, especially kind of like I haven't played Infinite

1356
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Wealthy at Men Who Restless Name is kind of like

1357
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 1>a prequel for that game for the curious side of things,

1358
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So I guess worth checking out there for sure. The

1359
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:26.239
<v Speaker 1>big I guess news for Xbox is that Call of

1360
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Duty Black Ops six is breaking records and also kind

1361
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 1>of emphasizes why Microsoft will not change the way they

1362
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:37.279
<v Speaker 1>make Call of Duty. So when I was talking about

1363
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:40.920
<v Speaker 1>how it'd be kind of cool if they could siphon

1364
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:42.960
<v Speaker 1>off some of these studios that were only working on

1365
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty to start making other things for that

1366
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 1>are in the activision back catalog or whatever. It's probably

1367
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. With Black Ops six doing well,

1368
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:57.159
<v Speaker 1>they're going to keep all those fifteen studios working on

1369
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty because they do alternate between the three

1370
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 1>main studios Trey, Arc, Raven, Infinity, Ward All That and

1371
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:13.640
<v Speaker 1>sledge Hammer and Sledgehammery. So number that Call of Duty

1372
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.920
<v Speaker 1>came out on October twenty fifth. According to Sati Nadella,

1373
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:19.680
<v Speaker 1>we got a big pay raise, by the way, which

1374
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:21.159
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a man.

1375
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:25.880
<v Speaker 2>He needs to make that money to justify closing down

1376
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of studios over this past year, right.

1377
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But he did say the Black Op six is the

1378
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest Call of Duty release ever, setting a record for

1379
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.840
<v Speaker 1>day one players as well as game pass subscriber ads

1380
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:40.000
<v Speaker 1>on launch day, and unit sales on PlayStation and Steam

1381
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.640
<v Speaker 1>were also up sixty percent year over year, which he

1382
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:46.399
<v Speaker 1>says speaks to the strategy of meeting gamers where they are.

1383
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:52.479
<v Speaker 1>So do you think this is because Call of Duty

1384
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Black Ops six is actually really good? Do you think

1385
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's because game passed? Do you think it's both? Like

1386
01:13:59.079 --> 01:13:59.399
<v Speaker 1>where what?

1387
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Do you partially both? I've heard the campaign is actually

1388
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty decent for it is or you know, the

1389
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:09.039
<v Speaker 2>campaigns have sucked for the past few years, so anything's

1390
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.600
<v Speaker 2>better than nothing, you know, than I guess.

1391
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a this is a like return to form, uh,

1392
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the press campaigns that people liked a lot,

1393
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 1>which I've enjoyed the this a lot of what I've

1394
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:26.680
<v Speaker 1>played still kind of trucking through it. I haven't heard

1395
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:28.960
<v Speaker 1>one person say a bad thing about it so far.

1396
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I've heard people some people really like to open world

1397
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:37.000
<v Speaker 2>level yeah, which is good. Uh, you know multiple I

1398
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:40.199
<v Speaker 2>mean multiplayer is basically free or you know added, and

1399
01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:42.600
<v Speaker 2>of course people are gonna play it. You're not you'll

1400
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:44.560
<v Speaker 2>play like a mission or like one round and go

1401
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:45.479
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm good.

1402
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm good. But sure, I yes, yeah, definitely it

1403
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.359
<v Speaker 1>does help and bringing in the multiplayer part of it too. Right,

1404
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:55.039
<v Speaker 1>you can have your friends, like you can buy a

1405
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:56.880
<v Speaker 1>copy of it, and your friends don't have to also

1406
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>buy a copy. They can just have game past play

1407
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.119
<v Speaker 1>for that and then decide. Now that's the thing, right,

1408
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:06.159
<v Speaker 1>is will this keep people subscribe to game Pass, because

1409
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point. Now, obviously they get money whether

1410
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you subscribe one time or you keep subscribing, but they

1411
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously want them to continue to subscribe afterwards. So that's

1412
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be the telling sign when we get to

1413
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:24.520
<v Speaker 1>November twenty fifth, my birthday, when are people still going

1414
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to be subscribed? Right that subscribed on day one for

1415
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty? That will be the interesting part the

1416
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.560
<v Speaker 1>next time they're doing numbers and stuff like that, how

1417
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 1>much retain was there from call of Duty being on?

1418
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>And it does help that they have, you know not.

1419
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing is, the fall from call of

1420
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Duty to flight Simulator is pretty high. Like most people

1421
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that like call of Duty don't also like flight simulator.

1422
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Flight Sublator is pretty niche. But they're obviously hoping for

1423
01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones to be a driver when that comes out

1424
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in December. They're they're hoping that, you know, maybe they'll

1425
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.199
<v Speaker 1>stick around for when a valve comes out in February,

1426
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:11.680
<v Speaker 1>who knows. But the interesting thing is that at least

1427
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it's doing well. There is a little bit I think

1428
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.359
<v Speaker 1>of a sales cutback that I think they were expecting

1429
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>within the margins because of people going in game Pass.

1430
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:22.079
<v Speaker 1>But obviously we're gonna I think it'll be more interesting

1431
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to see what happens with like that monthly sales data

1432
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:27.159
<v Speaker 1>that we always talk about, like is there gonna be

1433
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a game that knocks Call of Duty off and Call

1434
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of Duty doesn't come back because people just played it

1435
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.079
<v Speaker 1>already on Game Pass they needn't buy it. We'll see.

1436
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 1>But good good for Xbox to finally get some good

1437
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:43.359
<v Speaker 1>news with that, and something that I was super excited

1438
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.920
<v Speaker 1>about and talk about. Two things for Nintendo came out

1439
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.199
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere this week. One of them was that they

1440
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:55.039
<v Speaker 1>they came out with a music app, because you know, Nintendo,

1441
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 1>they can't just come out and put their music on

1442
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Spotify or know, YouTube music or nothing. They have to

1443
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:05.479
<v Speaker 1>just be like, we're Nintendo, dude. Ain't nobody making a

1444
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 1>profit out of us except for Nintendo. So here's some

1445
01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of our music on an app that you have to

1446
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:16.399
<v Speaker 1>be a Nintendo Online subscriber to be able to enjoy, which,

1447
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.319
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, it only costs like four dollars a

1448
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:22.279
<v Speaker 1>month to do the monthly subscription to like the base

1449
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:24.680
<v Speaker 1>version of it to be able to use the app.

1450
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's say somebody gave you a free month of subscribing

1451
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to Nintendo Switch online, Mark, would you be interested in

1452
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:35.039
<v Speaker 1>this app?

1453
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that's something called YouTube, right, But they're.

1454
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Going off and trying to take down more and more.

1455
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:45.079
<v Speaker 2>But that will never happen.

1456
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:45.720
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1457
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as like then taking emulation websites. Yeah,

1458
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like Hydra for everyone you strike down two mor

1459
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:52.279
<v Speaker 2>will rise.

1460
01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1461
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm also friends with the Ends and he can

1462
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 2>find anything, you know, he can find damn game soundtracker.

1463
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I want it, Like I like Mario. I like the soundtracks,

1464
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and I have a few of them, but like I

1465
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:07.359
<v Speaker 2>don't have like a huge pressing need to, like I

1466
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:10.319
<v Speaker 2>got to listen to Yoshi's Island soundtrack or you know,

1467
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>like Ice Climbers Stage four. Give me some of that,

1468
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1469
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll listen to the Zelda stuff every now and then,

1470
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and obviously Zeno Blade that Mario here and there as well.

1471
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 2>So see, I like like the Mario I early Mark,

1472
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Like I would say, like mars Usty fours contract, That's

1473
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.520
<v Speaker 2>what I probably listen to. And while I don't have

1474
01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>the CD currently, you know, YenS has it for me,

1475
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:36.760
<v Speaker 2>so I'll listen to that and eventually get it.

1476
01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I do think for the price, you can't even get

1477
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>unless you're a student. You can't even get Spotify for

1478
01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 1>less than like twelve bucks or whatever now or maybe

1479
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>ten if you get one of those like where they

1480
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:49.319
<v Speaker 1>give you two months free for ten dollars and then

1481
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it goes up again. Like so, and YouTube costs fifteen

1482
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I have YouTube Premium because you know, I don't have

1483
01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:57.279
<v Speaker 1>to deal with the ads when you watch stuff on

1484
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:02.000
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and you get YouTube music free. Prime is fifteen

1485
01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 1>bucks as well. So like, if you're gonna talk about

1486
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>getting a music app and you like it into the

1487
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 1>music a lot, I think it's worth it to subscribe

1488
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to the switch online for four bucks a month or

1489
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever and get it that way. Like you said, there's

1490
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.079
<v Speaker 1>other ways to get that music also, but if you

1491
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.079
<v Speaker 1>want to, if you want to, you know, do it.

1492
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess the legal way. Then you know, enjoy that app.

1493
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it will be better. It'll also be a

1494
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>better bargain when they put more music on there. Right now,

1495
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of in the early stage and doesn't have

1496
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot right Uh. The other announcement, which was

1497
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:39.000
<v Speaker 1>much bigger deal for me, uh Znowate Chronicles X is

1498
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>finally coming.

1499
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought you're gonna say that, Shatter runs finally on

1500
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the Switch, Mature expansion app that.

1501
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Too again, tur Rok too is awesome. Yeah, you know,

1502
01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the thing everybody was waiting on. But Genivate

1503
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Chronicles X Definitive Edition is it's happening. It's happening not.

1504
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:02.680
<v Speaker 2>That far away. Arch I sent you that link and

1505
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:03.159
<v Speaker 2>you're like, what.

1506
01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hadn't looked at the Gaming news yet and

1507
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you You're the first thing I saw.

1508
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, I think, I think, yeah,

1509
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I think I think you thought I was like fucking

1510
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 2>with you or something.

1511
01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>You're like, what exactly, because, like, you know, this is

1512
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the one that everybody kept saying, No, they won't do this,

1513
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:24.439
<v Speaker 1>they won't make it. There's too many too much we

1514
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you game pad in that in that game, and in

1515
01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that game. How could they do this or do that.

1516
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's too open world for the Switch. Which it

1517
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>is a very different game. It's not like the other

1518
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:42.239
<v Speaker 1>numbered games. Uh it. It has a lot of it's

1519
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:46.319
<v Speaker 1>more about going on quest, doing side activities, kind of

1520
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:48.880
<v Speaker 1>exploring the world kind of thing. It's not about following

1521
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:51.199
<v Speaker 1>this big old narrative that tries to take you on.

1522
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>That's something that somebody people should be if.

1523
01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 2>They if they ported the Winner for one on one

1524
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to like PS four and switch, they can port anything

1525
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>from the weed to a console. You know.

1526
01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:05.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's cool because it's it means that all these

1527
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>little play games will be in one place they will

1528
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>carry over to switch to. So if there is a

1529
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>little Bay Chronicles four or whatever they're gonna call it,

1530
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:16.079
<v Speaker 1>you'll get to continue to get to play those games.

1531
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.319
<v Speaker 1>It's another Now there's a very very small number of

1532
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>games that people really want that are still stuck on

1533
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the WIU. I think I don't think Nintendo Land would

1534
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:29.239
<v Speaker 1>ever come over, but yeah, what's what you know, what

1535
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 1>star Fox zero I think is like one of the

1536
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>few other ones. Yoshi's Will the World, I think is

1537
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the only other one that's like legit I saw that

1538
01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:39.880
<v Speaker 1>people still want. But the rest of the stuff is

1539
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>there is kind of like what Devil's Third you know,

1540
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 1>this is the major like RPG that people wanted to

1541
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:51.399
<v Speaker 1>be off the WAYU and now on this on the

1542
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>switch and I'm glad that it's finally here. I'm glad

1543
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll finally get to experience this game, and I'm glad

1544
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 1>for all the others that Bay fans and maybe started

1545
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.199
<v Speaker 1>with three and you can complete the whole collection here

1546
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:04.319
<v Speaker 1>on switch. That's awesome.

1547
01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Saw. You know what you need to do is I

1548
01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:09.119
<v Speaker 2>know that some of the Zeno play games come with

1549
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:11.479
<v Speaker 2>like big dumb collectors. Editions are hunting all those.

1550
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:13.439
<v Speaker 1>This one doesn't though, not yet.

1551
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:14.520
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it will.

1552
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but it's weird that they didn't announce it already.

1553
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But maybe they're just like kind of trying to think

1554
01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of what to put in a collector and one last

1555
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>thing And it's not too bad news because it's not

1556
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:30.039
<v Speaker 1>that long you have to wait. But I know there's

1557
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are been waiting for uh,

1558
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Path of Exile two. You know, last epak wasn't the

1559
01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:41.279
<v Speaker 1>thing that that made people forget about Diablo for but

1560
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:43.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people talk about Path of Exile two

1561
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to wind up being that action RPG of

1562
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the year or whatever, and they're just waiting for it

1563
01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to hit. And it was supposed to come out number fifteen.

1564
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Now it is coming to consoles n PC on December sixth,

1565
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:02.359
<v Speaker 1>so it's been delayed a little bit. You know, they

1566
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be able to keep their promises apparently, uh,

1567
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to make sure the game is right

1568
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>when it comes out, And you know, got to give

1569
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 1>them credit. Good for them to do that, because they're

1570
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>missing a big window, right Like they they're missing the

1571
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving Black Friday window where you could have had a

1572
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of families be able to play and kind of

1573
01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>get people hyped and and all that. And now you're

1574
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:28.199
<v Speaker 1>going past that, and and now there's another game that

1575
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:32.399
<v Speaker 1>packs that first week of December that that that is

1576
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be huge for for games. It's it's going

1577
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to go out on a bang. Uh there. But yeah,

1578
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel it sucks for the people that are waiting

1579
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>for Pathbexyl too. But ain't that much longer, like three

1580
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>weeks or so past the original.

1581
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Plus is going to be late an extremely large and

1582
01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>complex game.

1583
01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So no, it's not, it's it's falling off of one

1584
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.479
<v Speaker 1>of the first game. But still like there's it has

1585
01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fans.

1586
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what people want right Looking at like,

1587
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, the skills skill menu of Path of EXL

1588
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 2>one is like looking into the abyss. Yeah, XL two

1589
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>is even gonna be more crazy.

1590
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're you're not kidd in there, but just

1591
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>to uh, I guess kind of show people what's what

1592
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>is uh all coming in that week all together basically

1593
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is Path of Exile two, got Marble Rivals, the Fantasian

1594
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Neo Dimension also coming, Indiana Jones, the Great Circle all

1595
01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in that one week, The Mighty morphrom Power Rangers game,

1596
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the Good Game of the Bunch exactly, the legacy of

1597
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Kine Selver Remasters. Also absolutely like just let's all shove

1598
01:24:57.239 --> 01:24:59.479
<v Speaker 1>it into that one week in December, I guess forget

1599
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it a also the Pocket camp Mobile that we talked

1600
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>about to So yeah, that's that's gonna be crazy. But

1601
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>looking at what's coming for this week, obviously not as

1602
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:17.239
<v Speaker 1>uh not as hyped as that week in December right now,

1603
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>but still some some decent things coming for for this

1604
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>week ahead here Planet Coaster too. I'm surprised you're not.

1605
01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like kind of like the first one,

1606
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>but I'm just not creative when it comes to those games. Yeah,

1607
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I like the first one. They had a pretty decent

1608
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 2>like actual admission mode or story mode. Okay, but like

1609
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>then just go on, like here's a sandbox, go create

1610
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. I'm just stared it and go like no.

1611
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah not sure? Yea on that also coming the

1612
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:55.479
<v Speaker 1>uh what I mentioned Metal Slub Tactics already is hitting

1613
01:25:56.359 --> 01:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>as well tomorrow. What is it that TM and T

1614
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Spinner Fake game is coming to PC after already being

1615
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:09.239
<v Speaker 1>on consoles. The Metro Awakening VR is coming, which I'm

1616
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that'll be a pretty decent VR game. I'm pretty sure.

1617
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Mother Mario Luigi Brothership is also coming this week, which

1618
01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>has some mixed reviews. Yeah, apparently performance is not great.

1619
01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>First Switch on TV, which it really isn't When you

1620
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:33.039
<v Speaker 1>try to play something, especially on a four K TV,

1621
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>it looks bad, but still, you know, hopefully that's something

1622
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to switch to fixes. It really cemented my I think

1623
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to buy another Switch game. If somebody

1624
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>gives me a code to something, I'll do it, but

1625
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you know what happened with East ten

1626
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and another game I'm playing, but still not something I

1627
01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>want to go out of my way to buy a

1628
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>game for with With Switch to, who knows when it's

1629
01:26:59.039 --> 01:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>going to come out?

1630
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1631
01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>River City saw got three Kingdoms, which is River City,

1632
01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:07.159
<v Speaker 1>but in the three Kingdoms like Universe, which is interesting.

1633
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Maximum Football comes to PC. The Tyco not Test Hoosian

1634
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Rhythm Festival comes out that same day on the seventh,

1635
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. The Atari fifty, the first console war it's

1636
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>also coming, which I guess is like an expansion of

1637
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:24.039
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah.

1638
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it has a much other games like clicko

1639
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>or in television games or something. Yeah.

1640
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And then Slitterhead, which is the next game from the

1641
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like Solent Hill Creators or like a team those

1642
01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>aboub a Silent Hill. That's also getting mixed reviews as well,

1643
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.079
<v Speaker 1>like really mixed for readers. We got like really low

1644
01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>numbers and then some people that like really rated it high.

1645
01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>So very interesting that that's also so interesting week for

1646
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>games as far as new releases go. So yeah, anything

1647
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:04.039
<v Speaker 1>else we should mention before we get out of here. Nope, nope, Okay, Well,

1648
01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>thank everybody for watching listening however you enjoy the show,

1649
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.079
<v Speaker 1>let us know. Like it on YouTube on wherever you

1650
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>watch it at, follow us on social media, marks at

1651
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.920
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1652
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Timshawn on X and Blue Sky, follow will Network where

1653
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you see that, subscribe to the channel and We'll see

1654
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>y'all next week later