WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.919 Warning the following podcast Dame's graphic content and material intended 2 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:17.559 for a mature audience. 3 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:41.159 Listener dis question, Hey, what's up. 4 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:45.719 My name's Ben and I'm Nicole and you're listening to Wicked. 5 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:50.960 And Grim, a true crime podcast. Long time, no talk 6 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:52.880 listen because you can't see us. 7 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:54.079 Because you're welcome back. 8 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:55.840 Yeah, welcome, welcome. 9 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.479 We had a little bit of a hiatus hiccup. 10 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.640 Yeah, I don't know. Well, you can hear it in 11 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:02.960 your life. 12 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.519 I'm not sick as fuck. Yeah, it's basically what it 13 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:07.400 is in short. 14 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.599 Not COVID thankfully, no, but it might as well have been, 15 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:14.359 because you mean super super cold, coffin hacking, sneezing. 16 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.760 Yeah, that was like a long haul of two weeks. 17 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.599 I'm still in one hundred percent, so it's been over 18 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.120 two weeks. I mean it could be worse, but yeah, 19 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.560 I was really sick. You're a lot better though, I am. Yeah, 20 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:29.719 there was. If we had recorded this really too much earlier, 21 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:31.040 I wouldn't have really had a voice. 22 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:34.680 So yeah, so if you missed last week, that that's 23 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.359 why we didn't put one out last week because we 24 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:38.400 only had one host. 25 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.120 And that wasn't a story. So yeah, but this week's 26 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.439 epic because we're putting one out today Tuesday, and then 27 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.719 we're gonna be putting one out on Wednesday as. 28 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:49.959 Well, back to back. So we're making up for last 29 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:55.359 week missing it by dropping last week's episode today and. 30 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.319 Then this week's episode on Wednesday. Yeah, so you're really 31 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.040 not missing on an. 32 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.120 Anything, You're not. You're just kind of saving it up. 33 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.200 You're like getting a Christmas Eve, Christmas gift, and then 34 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.560 Christmas Day all your gifts sort of situation. 35 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.680 Is this funny or not? Last week was grim? This 36 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.759 week is wicked? Is that lame? That's lame? 37 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.639 Actually that's not bad, not bad. I see it. I 38 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:17.680 see what you did there. 39 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.919 So there we go. It's a wicked week. 40 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.680 There we go. It's a wicked week, for sure. We 41 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:24.159 got some wicked stuff we got to talk about. 42 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:25.840 We do, we have, We got lots of shit to 43 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.719 catch up on here. 44 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.800 First and foremost, it's fucking snowing outside right now, so 45 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:31.599 that's not cool. 46 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.960 Yeah, what's the date. It's April eighteenth. Then it's snowing, yep, 47 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:37.000 And it's all my fault. 48 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.719 It is your fault because your snow tires. So way 49 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:40.000 to go. 50 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.520 Yeah, I'm getting my own winter tires off tomorrow. And 51 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.360 so it's snowing clearly. Yep, that's how it rolls. 52 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.960 Yeah, and the weather forecast says we're gonna get like 53 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.919 up to ten centimeters of snow like accumulation. 54 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.800 It's snowing all night and like morning afternoon tomorrow. 55 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.120 That's not Yeah, so I'm going to I'm going to 56 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.479 put at least a story on Instagram to show the 57 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:01.879 snow we wake up to in the morning. 58 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.199 Ca But my fingers are cross it. There's no story 59 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.039 to be put up. Maybe it's just like oax. 60 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.840 No, I'm going to post a story. Whether there's snow 61 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.199 or no snow, you will see. So you have to 62 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.800 check us over on Instagram to find out. Okay, what 63 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:18.159 else you got? We got pumpkins, Thankfully they're not going 64 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:18.919 to be in the snow. 65 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.800 Yeah, we are gonna have an pumpkin patch. Well you've 66 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.479 always loved growing pumpkins, Oh, pumpkins, dope, and this year 67 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:26.879 you're taking it to the next level. 68 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.800 Well, i've grown pumpkins before. I've done upwards of I 69 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.159 think like six pumpkin plants at a time. Yeah, and 70 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.039 the most I think i've yielded in a year year's 71 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.240 worth harvest from those six plants. But I think three 72 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.360 or four pumpkins never very big. I think the biggest 73 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.919 one I've ever grown was like maybe just under basketball size. 74 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.560 At our first house. 75 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:52.400 Yes, yeah, yeah, so yeah, now we've we germinated some 76 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:57.919 seeds and we've got total of thirty pumpkin plants. 77 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.520 Sprouts and they're doing amazing. 78 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.319 Yeah, they're already like two to three inches high. I've 79 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.919 already got two leaves. They're gonna go ground on May 80 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.840 Long weekend and they're gonna thrive, and we're going to 81 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:10.800 get how many pumpkins you say? 82 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:12.560 I said twelve? 83 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:13.479 I said thirteen. 84 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:15.680 Yeah, just to be one up on me. 85 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.439 Yeah, So if you guys want to put in a 86 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.639 little guests, hit us up on our social We already 87 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:21.399 asked our patrons and gave them a little bit of 88 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:21.759 a toll. 89 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.959 It reminds you of animal crossing, even an animal crossing. 90 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.680 You're all about your pumpkin passion. Now we're doing it 91 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:29.360 in real life. 92 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:33.399 Growing pumpkins was dope on animal crossing. My Halloween island 93 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:33.920 is sick. 94 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.839 Okay, Yeah, I want to spend more time on animal 95 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:37.800 crossing that hemes fun. 96 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.319 Yeah, we do what else we got to talk about. 97 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.800 We gotta think patrons before we move on, because yeah, 98 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:45.600 you guys awesome. 99 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.360 They are super awesome. 100 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.240 So if you guys don't know, we have a Patreon 101 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:51.000 where you can support us behind the scenes. You can 102 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.399 get extra content the last day of every month we 103 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:54.079 come out with. 104 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.040 What we come out with, an extra freaking episode. 105 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.240 An extra episode which. 106 00:04:58.040 --> 00:04:59.160 Is really exciting. 107 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.560 Yes, strictly are all access patrons, So if you want 108 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.800 to find us on Patreon and go get access to that, 109 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.800 hit it up. Links are all in the description. But 110 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:11.480 we have some new patrons to thank well, we've got 111 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:13.879 I didn't preread these either. Usually I pre read them 112 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.759 and get a little bit of a chance to make 113 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.160 sure you don't mispronounce. 114 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:18.279 You're going blind, going and blind. 115 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:26.120 So we have Jason Shipcot, Kate Harvey, Sarah Quiratman, Kratman. 116 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.600 Your name's hard, Sarah. Why did you do this to me? 117 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.920 I shouldn't have went in blind, Matthew Allen, Becca Lynn, 118 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.720 Leah Page, and Christina. You guys all signed up on Patreon. 119 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:39.279 Thank you very much for your support. 120 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:41.079 Yes, thank you. 121 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.759 We've already asked patrons previously a week or two ago 122 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.399 to send us a video. 123 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.399 Actually little clips, yeah, little. 124 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.240 Clips rocking our merch, because we want to make a 125 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.439 reel with all you guys to thank thank you for 126 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.759 for purchasing our merchant. We want to see you guys. 127 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.240 If we get enough clips, we can't even do two reels. 128 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.360 Come on. Yeah, so we've gotten a few so far. 129 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.319 Yeah, but we we need you guys's help. We need 130 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.959 you to boost it with We need more clips. So 131 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.920 let's see your guys' clips with wicked and grim merch. 132 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.240 Whether you got stickers, t shirts, even if you don't 133 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.000 have merch. 134 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.879 Blankets, yeah I need one of those for sure. 135 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.399 But if you don't have any merch, don't feel bad. 136 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.120 You can still get in it. All you have to 137 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.839 do is get a little video clip of like, say, 138 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:22.959 our podcast on your phone screen or something and you're 139 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:23.759 rocking out to it. 140 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:24.319 Mm hmm. 141 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.759 So show us your wickedness. 142 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.800 Or even like you listening to the podcast in your 143 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.279 vehicle or something at work at work. 144 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.519 Making your your co workers listen to us. 145 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:37.480 They're making your workday better. 146 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:41.639 There we go, making it wicked, yeah, wicked workday. So yeah, 147 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.360 thank you to the patroons and don't forget to send 148 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:45.639 us a little clip because we want to make that 149 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:46.319 real for you guys. 150 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.160 And if okay, we have I've saved I think what 151 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.199 we've already gotten. But if you sent us one and 152 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.600 like we didn't reply, or maybe just send us a 153 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.120 nudge too, yes, just in case, we don't want to 154 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:57.959 miss anyone either. 155 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:03.000 So what else you got? What else we got? 156 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:07.079 Oh? Oh, I know what? Okay? Because we're just going 157 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.800 to talk about merch. We have some like exclusive merch 158 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:15.680 coming up, which is like really freaking cool. We have 159 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.079 thirty We're gonna have thirty of these items. 160 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.279 And it's it's unlike anything we've put out before. Not 161 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:23.879 T shirt, not sticker, not water bottle, We've never put 162 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:24.199 out these. 163 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:25.439 It's not through Red Bubble. 164 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:28.439 It's going to be strictly through us. I'm not too 165 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:29.800 sure how we're gonna do. It might be on our 166 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.839 website or something, but we will have to find a 167 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.879 specific way to sell it directly from us. But yeah, 168 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:41.480 that's all we can really say. Thirty limited exclusive pieces 169 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:42.360 of merch. 170 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:42.879 Oh my gosh. 171 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.560 And they are going to be handmade pieces, not by us, 172 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.079 by a professional, but still someone we have sourced, so 173 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:50.920 we're pumped. 174 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.639 Yeah, I'm super pumped actually to see these. 175 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.920 Yeah, it's an artisan kind of craft, so it's going 176 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.399 to take a while for them to get them made. 177 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:01.920 But once they're made, we'll let you guys know and 178 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.040 we'll give you guys the option to try and purchase one. 179 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.079 So I'm sure they're gonna go like real quick. So 180 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:07.920 you might have to be on the. 181 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:10.199 Ball, I know. I Yeah, we're gonna have to figure 182 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:11.839 out how we're gonna do this, but yeah, it's gonna 183 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:13.240 be awesome. It's gonna be so awesome. 184 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.560 We'll figure it out details later. All we need to 185 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.879 know for now is some epic shit is coming down 186 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:18.279 the pipe. 187 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.439 Yeah, as always, really as always. 188 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.600 So with all that being said, I think you wrapped 189 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:25.160 up everything we. 190 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.319 Need to I feel like that was everything we had 191 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:27.680 to say. 192 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:29.199 Maybe we should give your voice a little bit of 193 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:31.000 a rest. Hey, you sounded a bit raspy. 194 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.600 Take that sip already I thought I was doing good. 195 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.840 Well, not any more raspy. You just I can still 196 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:37.960 hear your voices raspy. 197 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:39.960 Yeah, there's still times in the day where it's like 198 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.080 worse and stuff. The evening's usually better though. 199 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.279 Yeah, well you've been putting up with it for a while. 200 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.799 So I know this. This is just my life now. 201 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.799 I don't even notice. This is just who I am. 202 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.159 Yeah, You've just you've just grown to accept it. Yeah 203 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.320 all right, Well I'll give you that rest that you 204 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.320 need for your voice, and I'm taking on today's episode 205 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:04.840 with the Badass of the Century, if I may say that. 206 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.480 So we are talking about a certain case here. We 207 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.679 are covering a survivor case. I mentioned that in a 208 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:14.039 previous episode that my next one would be a survivor case. 209 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:20.279 So this is the survivor case, the Badass of the 210 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.840 Century obviously the Badass of the day on this episode 211 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:27.600 of Alison Botha. Do you know that name? 212 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.240 I feel like I'm going to be getting in trouble 213 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.320 when I say I don't. But the thing is I 214 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.600 probably do. I'm just terrible at names, and like, once 215 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:37.799 you start getting into it, I'll remember most likely. 216 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.080 I know we've discussed details on her name before, so 217 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.120 you definitely know who she is, but you probably just 218 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.919 can't remember the name or place it exactly. You soon will, 219 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:51.480 let's say that, So this is her story. I am 220 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.440 going to not be telling the story as much as 221 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:59.279 I can of her accusers, Okay. So it's it's strictly 222 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:02.559 as much as I can for her. All Right, you 223 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:03.120 ready for this? 224 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:04.759 I'm ready, okay. 225 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.039 So Allison was born on September twenty second in nineteen 226 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:15.559 sixty six in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. Now, unfortunately, Allison's 227 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.519 parents went through a divorce when she was only ten 228 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.360 years old, something that is quite unfortunate, that is all 229 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.159 too common in today's society, but it kind of is 230 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:26.279 the world that we're in. So Allison would spend her 231 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.200 life or sorry, most of her childhood living with her 232 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.919 mother and brother, so she had developed a very close 233 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:36.559 relationship with her MoMA, specifically in her early years, Alison 234 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.120 led pretty much a fairly normal life. She served as 235 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.720 head girl at her high school for girls in Port Elizabeth. 236 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.879 When she finished her education, she spent a few years 237 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.960 traveling abroad. She was never quite sure what she wanted 238 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.480 to do with her life as for a living or anything, 239 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.480 and eventually when she did come home from abroad, her 240 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.480 mom was like quite happy to have her back. So 241 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.639 after she returned home, Alison did find a job as 242 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.159 an insurance broker, which she enjoyed quite a bit right on, 243 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.720 So she was just kind of living her life finding 244 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.879 out who she was, not too sure who she was, 245 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:11.559 exploring herself in life. 246 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.159 You know, that sounds common. I think a lot of 247 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:15.440 people go through that. 248 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.960 One hundred percent, and I mean honestly and that young. 249 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.559 I miss those those days, you know, just kind of exploring, 250 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.360 trying to figure out who you are. Now I'm just 251 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.000 trying to figure out which way I can bend over 252 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:27.600 so my back doesn't hurt, you know, I. 253 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.799 Still on the season. I just feel like I'm figuring 254 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.399 out who I am. Yeah, does it ever really end? 255 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:32.799 No? 256 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:34.519 I don't think it does. And I think that's kind 257 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.360 of a cool part of life though, is you're always developing, 258 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:38.679 you're always growing, So that's. 259 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:39.639 Kind of cool exactly. 260 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.279 But I definitely miss trying to figure out who I 261 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:44.720 was when when I didn't have joint pain, you know. 262 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.960 And like bills and a bunch of responsibilities and stuff. 263 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:50.840 Yeah, and I could stay up till three am, wake 264 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:51.960 up at six am for work. 265 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.799 Oh yeah, Oh that would kill you. 266 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:57.279 Now I'm in bed by nine o'clock and that's. 267 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.799 Even sinhen I was going to be like seven or eight, 268 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.480 I'm like, who are you hey? Who are you hey? 269 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.480 I do that when I'm really tired. I've had long weeks. Okay, 270 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:08.919 I have a nice cup of tea and I go 271 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:09.480 to bed early. 272 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.240 I know what. I'm just like, Wow, who am I 273 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:11.919 married to? 274 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.480 I'm married to responsible adults? Okay, I said that we're 275 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.679 responsible adult I said, I don't know. I can't replicate it, 276 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:22.879 but it was weird, you know what I mean. Anyways, 277 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:28.399 care moving on, on the evening of December eighteenth, nineteen 278 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.759 ninety four, Allison was at the time twenty seven years 279 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.399 old when she had spent that evening hanging out with 280 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.960 some of her friends. Now they went to the beach 281 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.480 and enjoyed each other's company, and even though it was December, 282 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.639 you know, in South Africa that's summertime, whereas here in 283 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:47.000 Canada that's dead of winter. So they're rocking the beach, 284 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.960 you know, the warm weather, suns shine in, just having. 285 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.759 A good old time sounds awesome. 286 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.240 Right, I want to go to the beach right now 287 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.399 in fast till me too. When they were done at 288 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:00.960 the beach, they went ended up going back to Alison's 289 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.759 place where they ordered pizza and they continued to play 290 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.480 games and stuff just have fun. It was around one 291 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.759 am when they decided to call it an evening, and 292 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:14.159 Allison ended up ended up driving sorry one of her 293 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:18.480 friends home before heading back to her home herself. Now, 294 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.360 she pulled up to her usual parking spot that she 295 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:25.200 had just left and it was occupied. Someone had taken it, 296 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.480 so she was forced to find somewhere else to park 297 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.679 her vehicle. So she drove around the block and found 298 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.639 somewhere not too far away to park, and just when 299 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:38.679 she began to get out of her car, suddenly, out 300 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.559 of the shadows of the dark evening, a man brandishing 301 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.600 a knife threatened her. 302 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:44.200 Dang. 303 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.679 He made his way into the car and said, I 304 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:53.720 quote move over or I'll kill you. He told her 305 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.399 exactly that as he forced his way into the driver's seat, 306 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:01.600 and he said he wanted her car keys. So reluctant 307 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.840 and scared rightfully, so Alison did what she told was told. 308 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.679 She climbed to the passenger seat and handed over the keys. 309 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:12.960 The man started the car ignition and drove off into 310 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.519 the night. Dang, that's terrifying. 311 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.639 That is absolutely terrifying. Who the fuck took her spot? 312 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.840 Like? Come on, well, I mean, what if it was 313 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.919 a setup, right, what if they saw her leave thinking well, 314 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:27.399 she's gonna come back and they parked. 315 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.399 Who knows, Oh, I guess. 316 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:34.320 Or but if it was just a coincidence, yeah, who knows? Right? 317 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.720 Yeah? Because I mean a lot, not a lot of 318 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.399 people would probably be out at that time, and you 319 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:40.799 know who knows. Okay. 320 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.919 So this man, as he was driving, he told Alison, 321 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.679 I quote, I don't want to hurt you. I just 322 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.360 want to use your car for an hour. So Alison 323 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.519 thought about jumping out before the car pulled away, even 324 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:01.240 though she had a knife to her throat, but she 325 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.440 chose not to. She didn't want to believe the worst. 326 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.679 She didn't want to believe that anything even close to 327 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.440 the worst was going to happen to her. Instead, she 328 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.600 chose to believe in the best, that this man wasn't 329 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.080 going to hurt her, that he was going to use 330 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.440 a car, and soon it was going to be all over. 331 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.320 So she didn't leave the car. She didn't jump out. 332 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.360 So during the quiet drive, the man broke the silence 333 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.799 and spoke to her more. He said, my name's Clinton. 334 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:36.080 He introduced himself. He began small talk and asking her 335 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:40.600 some questions and creating conversation most likely to calm Allison's nerves. 336 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:42.000 Well, yeah, just easing her. 337 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.559 Exactly, And that's exactly what it did. It certainly did 338 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.399 because she didn't fight, she didn't scream, and she continued 339 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:55.720 to believe that he wasn't going to hurt her. After 340 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:59.000 a little ways, the man pulled the car over and 341 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:02.600 from the shadows again and emerged another man. Oh no, 342 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.600 and climbed into the backseat of the car. Then again 343 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.799 they drove off. So where's your head going so far? 344 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:12.960 What do you think is going to be happening to 345 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:14.879 Allison and these two individuals. 346 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.320 Well, it's not what they're saying, I don't think. And 347 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.759 she needs to fucking try to run. But then also like, yeah, 348 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.639 now there's two, she's even more screwed. 349 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.360 Yeah, and then a moving vehicle nonetheless too. 350 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:32.240 Right, Oh my gosh, it's not a good thing. Yeah, 351 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.440 so I can just judge from your reaction it's not 352 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.799 a good thing, or from your facial expressions here. 353 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.000 Oh no, it's definitely not a good thing. Of course, 354 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:42.440 what do you think they're going to go to Candy Mountain? 355 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.000 I'm on edge Candy Mountain Charlie. 356 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.080 Whoa. I don't know if you guys can hear that, 357 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:48.559 but we're having like some major feedback. 358 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.320 It didn't like you're singing, didn't. 359 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.120 It wasn't singing. It was an impression. Oh, Candy Mountain, Gody, 360 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.399 Candy Mountain, Charlie, does anyone get that reference? Let me 361 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:58.960 know if you get that reference? I know you don't, 362 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:04.359 do you? No, I knew it. Anyways, they're certainly not 363 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.279 headed to Candy Mountain, let's put it that way. Allison's nerves 364 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.920 began to worsen though, with the second man as soon 365 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.519 as he joined them. As he climbed in the in 366 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.079 the backseat and they began driving again, she looked in 367 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.680 the rear view mirror to where the man was sitting, 368 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.079 and all she saw when she met his eyes was, 369 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:29.519 and I quote directly from Alison, dead cold. And this 370 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:32.680 is when she knew that she wouldn't be going home. 371 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.960 Okay, but this is interesting, though, something you just quoted 372 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:39.920 something that she said. 373 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:44.400 Yes, okay, I already said at the beginning. This is 374 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:45.319 the survivor story. 375 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.359 Oh shit, right, it is okay. Sorry, in my brain, 376 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.839 I'm just like this is doomed. She's doomed. Okay, this 377 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.160 is good. Okay, I'm happy now. 378 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:55.839 You're sure you're okay? Yeah? 379 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.960 Yeah, I forgot that. You said it was survival will 380 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.640 like a roller coaster of emotions already. 381 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:08.359 Wow? All right? Anyway, is that aside? The three of 382 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.759 them drove out of town and they found their way 383 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.799 to a dark alcove by a beach, no street lights, 384 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.599 no people, and they stopped the car. The first thing 385 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.839 Clinton said as he shut off the car was was 386 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:24.960 are you going to fight? 387 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:26.519 Oh? 388 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:28.160 Asshole? 389 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:31.319 Yes, she didn't. 390 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:36.519 Alison didn't fight. She believed that she, you know, if 391 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:38.759 she was to give into this met these men, that 392 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:43.160 eventually she would find her way home maybe hopefully. 393 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:45.880 Okay, so she let. 394 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.880 Them do what they wanted. Clinton began raping Alison. 395 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:51.960 Oh my gosh. 396 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.759 Now in the documentary titled Alison, which is available on 397 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:59.400 Amazon Prime, and I highly recommend you guys watch it, 398 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.960 most of my information actually comes directly from that, because 399 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.559 it is Alison talking in the documentary, telling the whole story. 400 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.119 Is it like a one episode kind of thing or what? 401 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.880