WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:13.240 Hello everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape cast. This 2 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.800 is episode ninety seven, the last episode of twenty twenty 3 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.320 four fire Escapes fourth. 4 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.839 Year operating something like that. 5 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.960 Yeah, twenty one April twenty twenty one, so wow. Yeah, yes, 6 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.199 April will be the five year, no four year anniversary. 7 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.000 What we're almost to four years? 8 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:31.280 Yeah okay, yeah that checks out. Yeah okay, but. 9 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:33.600 We were doing stuff before that. We did the half year. 10 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:35.439 Five Game of the Years yeah okay. 11 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.679 So that's what makes it confusing is because we did 12 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.200 we did a gody as our very first test EPI, 13 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:44.600 and when we did that, we kind of were like, oh, 14 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.560 this is let's let's do it for real. 15 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:49.600 No, but I consider that a part of the three announcement. 16 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:51.759 Yeah, preak through twenty twenty is the first one. Then 17 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:53.000 we did the Game of the Year twenty twenty. 18 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:54.560 Yeah, that was like our pilot episode. 19 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.119 Yeah, and then people were like, I cannot imagine my 20 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:57.840 life without this. 21 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.640 Yeah. Clamor they were emailing there. 22 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.200 There's a lot of clamor and people holding signs outside 23 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:04.840 of our houses. 24 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:11.599 They sat them, get them away. We said it back back, I. 25 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.400 Say, yeah, be gone, leave the house. 26 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.000 It's like those old clips of the Beatles and there's 27 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:17.640 just like a million people chased them through the streets. 28 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.480 I know, we almost got canceled. Mike said we were 29 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:21.519 bigger than Jesus. 30 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.799 Yeah, but we stay that. We stayed by that. I 31 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.400 said that, we all said that. 32 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:27.640 He stands by it. 33 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:34.640 The podcast fire Escapecast colon we're bigger than Jesus in 34 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:35.439 numerous ways. 35 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.400 We bought that billboard right, it's. 36 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:45.760 In Oklahoma somewhere, and us just all like flipping double 37 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.439 birds in the airs. 38 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.280 Yeah. 39 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:52.640 I wore I told you guys this, but I think 40 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:55.359 I didn't post a photo, but I think people would 41 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.840 find it funny. I wore my dorky Christmas sweatshirt to 42 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.959 my day job, and uh, a person who I like 43 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:07.480 a lot pretty high up my company. This person no no, no, no, 44 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.319 not even on the game scene like the wider Oh. 45 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.879 Like she's high up. She's like, what is dorky Christmas? 46 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:14.520 What does that mean? 47 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.639 And I was like, oh god, uh I oh, it's 48 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:19.319 just a podcast I used to listen to. I honestly, 49 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.159 it's an inside joke. I forgot how it started. And 50 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:22.800 then I kind of just like sidled away. 51 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.759 You should have been like my friend had a dream 52 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:25.439 that he kind of. 53 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.159 Yeah, it's not even there's no, it's not like that 54 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:35.240 it's inappropriate. It's that the explanation is so weird. 55 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:36.879 Just separately too. 56 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.319 Yeah, it's inappropriate, definitely, but also like, yeah, he had 57 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.159 a dream where someone offered him a dorky Christmas. But 58 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:44.840 in the dream logic it made sense that it was 59 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:45.400 a hand job. 60 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.080 But also in the dream it didn't even happen, so 61 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.080 I guess it's not that inappropriate. It was offered using 62 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:51.479 that verbiage. 63 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:52.479 But happy. 64 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.520 I don't know if like the VP of my company 65 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.479 would differentiate between whether the dorky Christmas happened. 66 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:59.680 I think it's just wasn't finished. 67 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.800 Then yeah, that would be a very fun HR meeting. Yeah, 68 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:07.800 it was, actually it was. It was dry and it 69 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.360 was there's no completion. He woke up first, that's true, 70 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:15.479 but it was funny. I made sure to stand in 71 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.840 like the front row so you could see the sweatshirt. 72 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:19.080 I'll send you guys the photo. 73 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:22.479 That's fantastic, and I really just didn't have any other 74 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.639 It was, you know, the theme was as usual, ugly 75 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.879 Christmas sweater and that was the old like I have 76 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.280 that one with the Santa who's ripped lifting weights. But 77 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:30.439 I was like, that's played out. 78 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.319 I feel like the ugly Christmas sweater thing, like drawing 79 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.439 attention to the ugliness that started what like ten years ago? 80 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:38.039 Yeah about that. 81 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.759 It became it became ironic they were in the nineties. 82 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:46.560 In nineties, like Christmas films, you'd always see ugly sweaters. 83 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.400 So I was ever like, like I found the ugliest, 84 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:50.000 silliest one. 85 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:51.280 It was just like that's what people wore. 86 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.599 You know, I'm with you, But I'm sure if we 87 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:56.479 google it, we'd realize we're wrong. I don't feel like 88 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:59.080 googling it though, Yeah, well no I do, Yeah, I do. Actually, 89 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.360 when do you think I'm of saying shit and finding 90 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.080 out months later I was nowhere near. 91 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:07.840 I'm trying to just wonder, like the commercialization of it, 92 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:09.280 which is I think what we're talking about, is it 93 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:09.840 kind of when. 94 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.000 It became oh wow, mainstream ruined and a little bit. 95 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.840 I think it's still fun and I think people should 96 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.439 still wear their silly sweaters. But there was a point 97 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:24.399 when Spencer's only sold like four hundred terrible looking sweaters 98 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.319 with sexual innuendos like jingle my bells, and stuff by 99 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.439 stocking honey, and it's just like at some point you 100 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.240 were like, I think we've we've jumped the shark on 101 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:34.759 these sweaters. 102 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:39.199 The proposition of it all. Yeah, we were, as they said, Yeah, 103 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:40.240 we were not far off. 104 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.399 So they originally came to be in the fifties as 105 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:48.360 jingle bell sweaters. However, sixties and seventies counterculture, they became 106 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:52.120 like more like not even ironic, like on purpose to 107 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.519 show like more of a low class holiday expression. Eighties, 108 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:00.680 a certain lead in a show called The Cosby Show 109 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.000 popularized them with strange patterns. 110 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:04.079 You like that. 111 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.000 The nineties and two thousands, the style of ugly Christmas 112 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.120 sweaters winded down, but was revived by the two thousand 113 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.680 and one film Bridget jones Is Diary, where Mark Darcy 114 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.879 a shame for wearing an unattractive knit reindeer sweater. And 115 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.040 then two thousands and onward, ugly sweater parties become popular 116 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.600 and the trend gain camp appeal in the twenty ten So, yes, 117 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:20.240 you're spot on. 118 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:22.199 And now it's gotten even more fun. Yeah, you know, 119 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:23.879 I go home for the holidays and it's like, oh good, 120 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.959 there's a bunch of trump Christmas sweaters. 121 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:27.920 Great, that's fun. That's a great time. 122 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:29.920 Yeah, you can be you can be open about those. 123 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:31.279 These days now even more. 124 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.439 People are celebrating down there. It's great, yes, yeah, But 125 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.040 I don't have many of these days. 126 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:38.079 I don't. 127 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.240 I've never really I did it once for like once 128 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.680 or twice for we did that for Giant Bomb, where 129 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:44.199 it's like we did christmasweater Steff and I got like 130 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.199 a Matchman or any savage thing. But I don't think 131 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:47.319 I've ever been a sweater guy. 132 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.639 I have the best one because Dan gifted me stofers' 133 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.399 tis the season for cheese. 134 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.120 And yeah I still have that, right, you took that 135 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:56.720 home the Big Dane. 136 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.680 I get a lot of mments on this. Stofer tis 137 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.399 the season for cheese and sweater. I really do, I 138 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.720 genuinely do. I got stopped in a supermarket three times 139 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.920 by people saying what is that that is so funny? 140 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.439 Is there macaroni on the sleeves? And I was like, 141 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.879 you bet your buttons there are, and it's just like 142 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.720 it's funny, it's ironic, but it's also like genuinely from 143 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.560 Stofers and it has a bowl of mac and cheese. 144 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.879 I'll take a photo and share it because it's a funny. Genuinely, 145 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:27.959 it is a funny sweater. 146 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.519 This is how it happened is I went to Dan's unprepared, 147 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:32.480 as per usual. 148 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.120 I think I had to go from a different work trip. 149 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.319 I went literally from a work trip to your place, 150 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:41.160 and I didn't have time to pack for both climates. 151 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:45.040 So I didn't bring enough sweaters and I was cold, 152 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:46.639 and so I asked you for a sweater. 153 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.040 You gave me a what a burger onesie? 154 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:57.560 Yeah, which I snuggy. Yeah, it was really comfortable, super comfortable. 155 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:03.399 I loved it. He gave me first. Yeah, how did 156 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:04.160 you get in here? 157 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:06.199 This is really comfortable. 158 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:09.240 I got in I got it in the middle of 159 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.000 the night for a glass of water, and I laughed 160 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.040 and I yelled at Mike and my pajamas. 161 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.199 How Mike got in my pajamas? 162 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:15.519 I have no idea. 163 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.519 You woke up a lot heavier than when you went 164 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:18.040 to bed. 165 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:20.360 Just dragging this loaf around. 166 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:25.360 But anyway, so the water burger onesie was very comfortable 167 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.879 and I enjoyed it. And then I was like, damn it, 168 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.639 I wish I had like one more sweater because you 169 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.839 really shouldn't leave the house in a waterburger onesie. I 170 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.959 think you can, but I do think it's frowned upon socially. 171 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.319 And so Dan takes a box down from his. 172 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:42.600 Garage and it is a Stofer's Christmas package and it 173 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:47.720 is filled with several sweaters from Stofers, who I shoes like, 174 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.079 just sends you stuff because you love Stowfers so much. 175 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.560 And it included a tis the season for Cheese and 176 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.680 ugly sweater. It also included a mac and cheese hoodie, 177 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.720 which I think ishilarious because that's what we did last 178 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:07.639 time we visited you. 179 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.759 I do it did my closet, I dude, My carry 180 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.720 on was stuffed to the brim. 181 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:19.720 I was worried at any moment it was gonna snap 182 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.600 open and all of my mac and cheese wardrobe was 183 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:23.959 gonna pop out on the plane. 184 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:26.360 But I got both those babies home. 185 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:30.160 I am glad you did, because I mean it. I 186 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:32.440 think I might have ruined macaroni and cheese for myself. 187 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:34.919 And I think this has been a big art of 188 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.559 like between break, I think my body and brain now 189 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.840 have revolted against macaroni and cheese and are like telling 190 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.919 it me that, like, hey, you cannot keep doing this 191 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.960 this way, you know, breaking my finger. I'm glad I 192 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.919 gave this stuff to you that not my house more cuz, uh, 193 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:51.639 there's a good chance, I would say a fifty percent 194 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:53.960 chance that I will have to just randomly leave this 195 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.080 room in the middle of this podcast and either puke 196 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:57.200 or shit my brains out. 197 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.480 Oh God, I guess I haven't talked to you guys. No, 198 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:02.360 that's not just something you can bring up. 199 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:06.559 Oh okay, okay, So Wednesday night, so as this recording, 200 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:08.080 this was you know, five days ago, six days ago 201 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.440 or whatever. Tim Terry, your friend of mine, was in 202 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.320 town for the holidays, and m went out to the 203 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.000 Chatterbox pup to kind of catch up, have some drinks, 204 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:17.679 have some food. 205 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.960 I go there and, uh, this place used to be 206 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:21.480 really good. 207 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.639 I looked at more recent uh Google reviews, and it's like, oh, 208 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.639 something has happened to this place. And I ordered a 209 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.679 menu item called mac amania and it. 210 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:34.000 Was a ves describe it, okay, so it's it's a 211 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:38.080 vat of macaroni and cheese. Great awesome, which. 212 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.799 By the way, I also got a appetizer of a 213 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.200 big soft pretzel and a beer cheese dip. 214 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.360 So I had a bunch of to get there. 215 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.279 Did your cheese appetite for your cheese maine. 216 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:47.720 For the vat? 217 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:53.000 Yes, and yeah, that's what I said, yes, yeah. And 218 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.480 so the thing with Macamania is it's just the biggest 219 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.120 fucking bowl of macaroni cheese you've ever seen. 220 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.120 I get to know about. 221 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:02.200 Macamania is not a bowl. 222 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.600 It's a deep cooking dish that's like flat auldron. 223 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:06.919 It's like a cauldron. 224 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:13.240 Yeah, and it's we're familiar with these containers. 225 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.200 Yeah, I am too, unfortunately. 226 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.840 And so you picked three add ons and I picked 227 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:23.200 pulled pork, sage, sausage, and chili. 228 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:26.360 That I wanted. 229 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:29.159 They didn't that I didn't pick chili as the third 230 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.519 add on. They thought I wanted a separate order of chili. 231 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.080 So they brought me the vat of Macamania and a 232 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.399 big ass bowl of chili. And I told him like, oh, 233 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.360 I hope I'm not getting charged for this because I 234 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.159 wanted this as an add on, And she's like, oh, okay, 235 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.480 I'll just take it off, but you can just pour 236 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.200 it in there, like okay, And I just dumped the 237 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:49.039 entire bowl of chili into my macamania file. Oh my god, 238 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:53.600 so or uh something something. 239 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.639 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. 240 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:01.120 So the nanosecond I'm done, actually, before I finish eating 241 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:02.799 this thing, I start feeling terrible. 242 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:06.440 Did you finish it? I just want to know I. 243 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:07.200 Did finish it. 244 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.080 And also like they didn't bring like forks, and there's 245 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.720 just like a weird like mug thing on the table 246 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:15.600 that like I didn't know. There was just like two 247 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.240 forks in there that I couldn't tell if they were 248 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:17.759 clean or not. 249 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:19.120 And I asked Tim. I was like, do you think 250 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:19.559 these are clean? 251 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.159 He's like, yeah, they must have washed it, but it 252 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:25.120 looked like a discard mug for dirty silver or something like. 253 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:27.360 Yeah. 254 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:31.440 So I used it and ooh felt real bad by 255 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.720 the end, and I'm like, okay, all right, see it, Tim, 256 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:35.799 you know, go home. 257 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:36.919 I have a beer and go to bed. 258 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:37.759 Uh. 259 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.039 Next morning, I wake up a couple hours where I 260 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.120 normally do, and it's just gurgling and a burglin in there. 261 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.480 It is just like the stomach is just rolling over itself. 262 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:49.960 I'm laying next to she's asleep, and I know she's 263 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.000 going to hear this, so I hate to give this detail, 264 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.279 but I'm like she's asleep and this is not a 265 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.039 like I try not to fart around her too much, 266 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.519 you know, like she just told me, Am, I just 267 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.600 feel weird just you know, farting willy nilly around my 268 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:03.360 wife all the time. 269 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.000 But I'm just going to town. 270 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:06.919 It's like, I, this is gonna be an issue if 271 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.559 I don't, and I thought it would ease the stomach 272 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.120 percolating and oh, I. 273 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:13.080 Hope you shit your pants. 274 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.919 Well we're gonna get some more details here because keep 275 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.480 in mind, I've never shipped my pants past diaper's age. 276 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.200 So, oh god, victory lap for you. 277 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.039 Yeah, I take I think going back to diaper's age. 278 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:33.080 So I had to get up and I'm just feeling 279 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.120 real bad. I go downstairs. I have a couple of 280 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:40.360 Mountain Dews and then calm the gurgle. They said carbon 281 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.720 carbonation helps with the gurgling, right. 282 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.559 Yeah, but you're also running with Sue Cross and. 283 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:49.799 That's fine. So I had a couple of Baja blast zeros. 284 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.080 I go down Oh zeros, okay, yeah, yeah, and we've 285 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.080 got a morning meeting. It was like an all hands 286 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.440 meeting where it was like, you know, there's you know, 287 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:00.799 a different I'm not gonna go to like details or whatever, 288 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.799 but like, you know, we're having meetings as a company 289 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.120 and stuff about different meals jumble, so what twenty twenty five, 290 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.279 what we're doing? You know, there's like a bigger like, hey, 291 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:09.720 we're all gonna get together and talk about the plan 292 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.080 for twenty twenty five basically. So it's an important meeting. 293 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:13.519 And I go on there, I turn the camera on 294 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.399 and stuff, and I'm just like just feeling my face 295 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.039 get white, and I'm feeling just things. And I've never 296 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.240 like had to leave a meeting really, I don't think 297 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.879 for like a bathroom emergency, like like a long stream 298 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:28.279 or something. If it's like just me and grab ull 299 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:29.639 be like I'm gonna take piss or whatever. This is 300 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.120 like an important company meeting. And at one point I'm 301 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.639 like I farted because my mic is muted, and I'm 302 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.080 like I can fart, this is fine, And there was 303 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.759 a feeling that I had. I was like, that's I 304 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:43.960 have farted tens of thousands of times in my life. 305 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:47.480 I've never felt that, And so I just turn off 306 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.240 my camera and I sprint to the bathroom. I do 307 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.000 a little wellness check on the situation and no issues. 308 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.720 It was just I did a wipe. There was no residue. 309 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:04.639 Are they still are the are the underwear and questions 310 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.559 still intact? I'd like to inspect these myself. 311 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.039 They're totally fine. They're in the right now. If we 312 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.120 take the out of the ham for for the laundry, 313 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:11.679 we can save it. 314 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:14.399 I'm gonna I'm gonna need some time with them. Yep. 315 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:17.480 So I'm like, okay, cool, Just good to know not 316 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.279 to trust any farts today. Run back to the meeting, 317 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.200 turn the camera back on. Look, Yes, everything's normally as professional. 318 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:25.200 Just maybe shit my pen. 319 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.000 No one's the. 320 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.679 Wiser until I talk about it on a podcast. 321 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:30.200 Uh. 322 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.480 And then I am like five minutes, I'm just like dying. 323 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.639 And it's like a schedule, like forty five minute meeting, 324 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.519 and I'm just like, oh, I keep looking at the clock. 325 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.240 I'm like, I gotta make it twenty three more minutes. 326 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:42.039 I gotta make it twenty some long time. When you're 327 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.799 gurgling and I feel terrible and I have turned the 328 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:47.240 camera off again, I sprint into the bathroom and just 329 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:49.000 puke everywhere. 330 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.639 Just and I what was it? Mac? It was like 331 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:54.399 very watery, It was like. 332 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.399 Do you think it was the fucking Baja Blast. 333 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.759 Zero No, No, I think like two of them that 334 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.759 you drank in the morning. Everything was a jumble. The 335 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.759 mac and cheese, the Baja Blast. I think the next 336 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:06.519 thirty six. 337 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:10.639 Hours a jumble. This is a Christmas poem about well the 338 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:13.440 back in Baja Blast for a jumble I drank. 339 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:15.879 I sprang from my seat to see if my ass 340 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:16.519 was a splatter. 341 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.200 There was no streakage. Nothing was the matter. 342 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.120 March Yeah, you go on for hours, were gonna stop 343 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:26.519 right now. 344 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:27.480 So I was. 345 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:29.559 Supposed to be on a podcast that day. I was 346 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:31.759 supposed to start my Blake Club game the next day. 347 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:33.799 And it's just like, there's just no fucking way. It's 348 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.000 look for the Blake Club game, I'm doing this Terminator 349 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.360 three thing, and I got to wear this elaborate, stupid 350 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:40.159 fucking thing. I'm like, I'm just gonna shit my pants 351 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:41.120 in this for I do this. So I had to, 352 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.080 Like I laid in bed for like it felt like 353 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.440 two days straight, Like didn't get out of bed, didn't 354 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.440 I felt I couldn't even like play a game or anything. 355 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:52.879 I was just like puking and laying down and putting 356 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.480 ice on my head. I puked more in that couple 357 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.000 of days than I puked in the last like five 358 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:57.799 years combined. 359 00:15:57.879 --> 00:15:59.519 It must be yeah. 360 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:00.519 Even oh, poisoning. 361 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:05.000 Absolutely still, I'm still feeling the gurglings and burglans in 362 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.600 there went out the dinner gon last night. I was 363 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:09.799 the first like actual like dinner meal I've had since 364 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.519 it happened. It went all right, But. 365 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.279 What did you have to cheese? 366 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:21.000 I had so it was a Japanese Italian fusion restaurant thing, 367 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.799 and one of the things was a pasta type thing, 368 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:24.559 but I don't think I would call it mac and cheese. 369 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.159 What was it? Was it pasta with cheese? 370 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:33.480 Japanese Italian fusion in itself? Sans Shan Sancho John. 371 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.840 None of that is necessary? Was it cheese pasta? Dan? 372 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:42.519 There was cheese? I can look up the menu. It 373 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:43.080 was a lot though. 374 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.360 It was like almost like Tapa Tapa style where we 375 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.120 just like ordered like a ton of different stuff. 376 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:47.559 Here we go. 377 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:52.240 Here's the menu, Spanish and Italian and Japanese Spanish. Una. 378 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:55.200 That's not worth explaining. 379 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.240 I had aaron chi, I had porkiosa. I had sweet 380 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:00.519 potato karaque. 381 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.319 I had uh uh some pasta. 382 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:05.880 But what was the pasta? 383 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.519 Yeah, one of these was like a cheesy ish thing, 384 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.440 but I don't think anybody would call it macaroni cheese. 385 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:13.200 But I did have We had two different pizzas, like 386 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.960 pesto pizza with mozzarella. 387 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:17.880 Yeah, skewers of meat and stuff like that. 388 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.319 Have you considered maybe taking it easy on the cheesy. 389 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:22.640 I think I do. 390 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.920 Think it's my body kind of telling me that, like, hey, 391 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.319 you can't just keep having cauldrons of macaroni and cheese 392 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:31.119 and like six beers. 393 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.480 You know, I thought you were gonna say you are 394 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.079 finally like developing lactose intolerance, but no, you're saying that 395 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.000 you're still associating maca cheese with the food poisoning, which happens. 396 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.880 Like I still can't have a burger from a very 397 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:45.960 famous chain in New York because I got food poisoning 398 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.519 from it, right, it's weird link to it. 399 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.519 So like I'm eating again and it's mostly fine, but like, 400 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.119 if I think of macaronie cheese, it's awful. But also 401 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.799 this place now, I looked at the recent reviews and 402 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.279 it just seems like it's like I think Tim described 403 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.960 it as like a bunch of muppet babies trying to 404 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.160 run a restaurant and like so like it was super slow, 405 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:06.599 like all the service like they just wouldn't even look 406 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:06.799 at you. 407 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.279 They're rolling their eyes at the customers. 408 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.160 This one guy, the bartender, for a while was like 409 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.160 rubbing his eyes like I got a bunch of worship 410 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.400 sire sauce in my eyes. And he just stood there 411 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.720 like wow for like a long time. And then there 412 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.200 was a Google of you being like, yeah, the bartender 413 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.880 cut his thumb open and was bleeding and I said, oh, 414 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:22.240 you need a band aid for that. He's like, no, 415 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.559 I'm fine. You just kept bleeding everywhere. So like, I 416 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.240 don't know what the hell happened to the chatter. Yeah, 417 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.480 but they haven't any ass set up there, which is 418 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:30.000 why I like. 419 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.640 Itay, the number one rule of all restaurants is is 420 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:34.799 don't make people sick. 421 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:35.680 That's it. 422 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.039 It's not even make good food. That is secondary to 423 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.559 not getting people sick. And the idea that there's like 424 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:48.759 people who need band aids and possibly used silverware in 425 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.519 a mug on your table is really vile. And I 426 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.440 think that's so stressful that you had to go through that, 427 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.359 going getting food poisoning is like one of the worst 428 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.680 hells that people can experience that that I can imagine. 429 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.920 I think I maybe had mild versions of it in 430 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.920 the past, but this is like this gotcha like knocking 431 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.039 me on my ass. 432 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.720 Yeah, it's gone it twice in the last like ten years, 433 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.720 and it was so bad the first time. Trying not 434 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:18.960 to get too graphic. There was nothing graphic. 435 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:19.759 There was nothing. 436 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.720 There was nothing left to come up my bot. No, 437 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:26.200 it was not it did not come out that end. 438 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.240 It was all mouth. 439 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.759 Stock, just checking. Yeah. 440 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.359 Yeah, they're in a glass case in the dining room 441 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.960 on the wall. Yeah, it's like your body. It just 442 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.319 still feels whatever. 443 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:41.400 It is fox seed. We turned it into a. 444 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:47.720 No, it's it's texadermat underwear. There wasn't an animal face 445 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:48.079 to it. 446 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:50.759 Like for the first like I would say, twenty four 447 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.839 to thirty six hours, it was puking and shitting and 448 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.319 then after that it was mostly just fire hose from 449 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:56.880 the ass. 450 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:57.680 Nice. 451 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:01.079 Yeah, yeah, but like with horse where it likes you 452 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.880 got to like, okay, I'm sorry, but you know, normally 453 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.480 you wipe your ass and I use a bidet, so 454 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:09.799 it's like very nice and clean, but it's all just 455 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.559 centralized there. But when you have that fire hose ejection 456 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.839 situation going on, it hits the water with such a 457 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.880 force that you have to like wipe your asses, your 458 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:21.160 bodies because like. 459 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:31.880 Get a shower gun blast of all over your whole buttocks. 460 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:32.640 Disgusting. 461 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:34.480 It sucks. So you need it. 462 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.480 You need like a second toilet specifically for diarrhea that's 463 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.839 really tall, like so you sit way. 464 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:42.279 Up here, just suit it way in. It's like at 465 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:43.720 this pit like a cave. 466 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:48.559 Tour splash zone house, and then right diarrhea shack on 467 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:50.240 it so your neighbors know not to go in there. 468 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.640 I told you guys that I got food poisoning at 469 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.480 the Game Awards last year, right, and I couldn't eat 470 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:56.440 for like six days. 471 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.160 It's the long I didn't see you after a certain point. 472 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.599 I feel all I had like or dirvs like at 473 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.759 a and I think, you know, probably something sat out 474 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:10.079 too long. There's a couple, there's always I think I 475 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.680 went to three that night, so there's no guarantee of us. 476 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.920 It could be and everybody else was eating the food 477 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.559 and I'm the only one who got sick. But I 478 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:21.599 I was ill and I had to take a flight. 479 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.400 And so I was like, don't worry, you can get 480 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.160 through it. But I hadn't eaten or drinken anything in like, 481 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.279 you know, twelve hours, and so I was very thirsty. 482 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:30.599 And so I had a. 483 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.279 Half a bottle of water and I had some SIPs 484 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.640 of my half a bottle of water as I was 485 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.759 in the security line for TSA and as it was 486 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.720 my turn, I knew I was going to puke. 487 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:44.799 There was no way I was going to get out 488 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:45.000 of it. 489 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.920 You just know, you know, like you try and repress it, 490 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:48.759 and you think, you try and mentally say like it. 491 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:51.640 Could be anything, but yeah, it was happening. 492 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.240 And the closest thing that we had was the water 493 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:58.359 receptacle that you can dump your water bottle liquid in, 494 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.960 and I puked in that in. 495 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.079 Front of a whole full TSA line. 496 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:03.960 That sucks. 497 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:08.000 It was aerful, It was awful. And they didn't stop me. 498 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:12.279 They let me go through and nobody bothered me. And 499 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.400 I went through the TSA line and then I just 500 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:17.200 I propped myself up next to a little garbage can 501 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.720 and I sat there for twenty minutes until my flight. 502 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.519 It was it was a miserable miserable end of the year. 503 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:25.799 I didn't eat for I said, so I couldn't eat 504 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.799 for like six days. And on the sixth day, I 505 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.920 was like, I genuinely think I was able to drink water. 506 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.359 I think after two days. But when you can only 507 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.160 drink water and you can't have food for six days, 508 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.920 I was very concerned for my health. And so I 509 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:43.279 made an appointment with a doctor, an emergency visit, and said, 510 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.680 I haven't eaten anything solid in six days. And she 511 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.799 looked at me and she said, you'll be okay. Oh yeah, 512 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.000 And I was like, I did it. 513 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:55.240 I thought you had to eat food like three weeks 514 00:22:55.319 --> 00:23:00.000 or something. I don't know. I don't trust anything, I said, 515 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.960 I recounting. 516 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.799 Fucking doctor, if you haven't eaten. But I think the 517 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.839 way I received it was you think I got a 518 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:10.240 bunch of meat on my bones? 519 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:10.640 Lady? 520 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.480 She kind of was like, oh, you're fine. 521 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.240 If you were skinny, i'd be worried, but you're good, 522 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.640 go home, And this is just the plague of the woman. 523 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.680 But I was like, how dare you say that I'm 524 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:27.480 not gonna die from not eating for six days? 525 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:29.519 Tell me I'm gonna die? 526 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.119 Yeah, tell me? 527 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.000 I say I'm deader is just hiding up behind the door. 528 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.279 He's the most toxic reaction. I was so sick. I 529 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.519 was like, my body looks incredible. 530 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.960 I would not get I don't approve of this, but yeah, 531 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:50.559 that was like my terrible experience. 532 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.279 After six days, I had some saltines and I was back, baby, 533 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.920 But I I still and I don't know again, but like, 534 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:58.880 I think it could have been like some kind of 535 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.079 mac and cheese ball situation. And I do think that 536 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.799 mac and cheese has a special consistency that might lend 537 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:11.839 itself to food born illness. There's just something about like 538 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:16.440 it's just gooey. It's like half warm, half cool. Anything 539 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:17.319 can be in that goo. 540 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.079 You wouldn't know it if there was like a fingernail 541 00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:21.759 in there, because you're just kind of like gulping the 542 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.160 whole ball at once. So I just think it lends 543 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.160 itself to something you can hide gross stuff in. 544 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.079 I really wonder if it's if I'm gonna shake this like, 545 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.400 because it's I could think about eating a steak right 546 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.519 now or peanut butter sandwich and be fine, but mac 547 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:35.240 and cheese I'm. 548 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.400 Like, oh god, no, mac and cheese is going to 549 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.640 be a tough one, and I agree with what Mike 550 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.079 was saying. When you have a physical reaction to food mentally, 551 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:45.960 that can harm you. 552 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.720 For years. I puked my guts out on my sixteenth 553 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:50.759 birthday because I ate a whole rack of ribs. People 554 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.119 said I couldn't do it, and I did it, and 555 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.359 then I puked that shit out. And now I couldn't 556 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:56.759 have ribs for like five years. 557 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:04.839 Oh, everyone said the ball, Yeah, the. 558 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:13.400 Ball you ever did see? I couldn't eat ribs for 559 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.359 like five years. 560 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.920 I can eat ribs now, but I had a visceral 561 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.720 reaction to to like smoky barbecue sauce for years. 562 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.119 Like I'm feeling like even just thinking about the maca 563 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:25.279 cheese right now, my stomach is. 564 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.240 Stop thinking about it cheese. 565 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:29.440 Maybe I will. 566 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.920 Yeah, I am planning on like January, like okay, I 567 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.599 gotta actually start getting ready for the training for the 568 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:34.279 marathon stuff. 569 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:35.839 So like I am seeing this, It's. 570 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:37.799 Like, all right, I've got like a week left, a 571 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.480 week and a half to eat like an asshole, drink 572 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.240 and stuff, and then I might get pretty serious about it. 573 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:49.720 But for the holidays. 574 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.400 My body is really starting to go away. So I'm 575 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.880 thinking in two weeks might give up. 576 00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.200 Look, I've got a big resolution guy. I forgot about 577 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:57.480 that yet. 578 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.480 Yeah I'm not New Year's resolution guy, but Traveling Smiths're 579 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.839 hosting a New Year's party all that stuff, you know, so, 580 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:05.200 oh god, I've also getting this thing. You get it 581 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.359 with the food poisoning, where like you wake up just 582 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.680 covered in sweat and like. 583 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.680 It's colder, like fever. 584 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.640 Okay, yeah, because like bank walked, can we sleep with 585 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.680 the door open out to the outside and it's like 586 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.160 six degrees outside wind chills, you know, cool, So it's 587 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:22.640 like we keep it cold as fuck in the room. 588 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:24.880 But like she'll walk in and be like, oh my god, 589 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.519 it's so cold, and I'll be like covered in sweat. 590 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.960 I assume that, Yeah, you. 591 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.920 Had a fever, bud, Yeah, yeah, for sure you. 592 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.359 Should tell The sweat is like often when the fever 593 00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.799 breaks for a bit, like I always could. 594 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.400 My mom always said, but I don't. She won the doctor. 595 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.759 But every time I go I broke my sweat, she'd 596 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.319 be like, oh, good, you broke your fever. 597 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.039 Okay. 598 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.039 I don't know why that that made me feel. 599 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.920 Better that she said that, because your body is like 600 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.440 I don't know, I imagine it. You'd be your body like, 601 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.039 oh there's nothing left we need to kill by overheating 602 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:56.559 you so. 603 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.440 Well, I keep getting that feeling too, like after like 604 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.519 these were like violent, loud puking sessions where I'm just 605 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:05.640 like just it was crazy, and then and it feels 606 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.359 like it was coming like out of my heart. It 607 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.640 felt like like it was wretching like my heart and esophagus, 608 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.359 like it was painful. And then afterwards, once it was 609 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.000 all out of me, I would just like kind of 610 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.279 almost collapse like next to the toilet and I would 611 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.759 just be sweaty and light headed. And that's the few 612 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:21.119 times I would be able to get some sleep. Is 613 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.400 right after a puke, I would. 614 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:23.000 Lay down in my body. 615 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:28.599 I was like God like yeah, yeah, broken battered bodies, 616 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:29.319 broken souls? 617 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.799 Is that the wrestling term? That's something you heard once 618 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:33.559 that it's stuck with you. 619 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.319 It's the coolest thing I've ever heard. What was that 620 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.759 was that announcer Jim Ross thing? Yeah, Jim Ross. Yeah, 621 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.079 he's like battered bodies, broken souls. Like that's why have 622 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.160 I not been watching wrestling my whole life? It's like 623 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:52.400 Joy Shakespeare, Yeah, are you unless there's any more to 624 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:53.519 add for the food poisoning. 625 00:27:53.960 --> 00:28:00.440 I mean, like I said, I'm grumbling, So just leave 626 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.000 the room without saying anything. It's all all back. 627 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.440 All thirty thousand listeners will know why you left now, 628 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:08.920 so you set it up correct. 629 00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:09.640 Well. 630 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.839 Uh, speaking of wrestling, though, Dan, I sent you the 631 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.480 other day, I'm enjoying watching videos of this Stephen Flow 632 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.359 character in Chicago. Right, he's a He's just a grunge 633 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.960 theme wrestler in apparently Chicago area. And yeah, his theme 634 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.039 song is just even Flow. But it's not just that 635 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.079 they replaced even Flow in the chorus with Stephen Flow. 636 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.039 The song is just them saying Steven Flow over and 637 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:38.000 over to the rhythm flo. Yeah. 638 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:39.039 Yeah, it's really good. 639 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.160 I can always tell when something breaks out of wrestling 640 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:46.039 nerddom and goes into the mainstream through like some about 641 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.960 a billion people are like, yeah, I'm gonna text the 642 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.640 wrestling guy. Yep, yeah that yep, Steven Flows. 643 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:51.839 One. 644 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.200 There's the pizza Luigi Primo guy a couple of years ago, 645 00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:55.160 like made a pizza. 646 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.759 Well, uh yeah he killed the guy. Yeah, oh gotcha, 647 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:03.680 yeah yeah sick. Yeah yeah. Steven Flow definitely broke out 648 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.279 of that mold good for him? Yeah? 649 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.759 Is he is that like an indie circuit he's in? 650 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.240 I mean yeah, he's not like a guy that you 651 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.200 would see on I mean maybe there's. 652 00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.960 A whole dude whose theme is just an orange in 653 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:17.880 my hands are my pocket because I saw wet hot 654 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.279 American summer. So like if he can raise a legit superstar, 655 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:25.359 he's he's very acrobatic. Is he still doing stuff? 656 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:26.400 Yeah? 657 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.480 Yeah, okay, of course. Yeah, he's the coolest person I've 658 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.240 ever laid eyes on. 659 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:31.079 He's very good. 660 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.079 What else is New Holidays time? New Year's Dan, you're 661 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.480 doing your annual New Year's Eve party? 662 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:38.720 Yep? Doing that? 663 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.039 Got a bunch people coming over for that. Do you 664 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.519 have Dad's coming up? You can make it out of 665 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.160 the hotel for that? 666 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.519 Oh god? Yeah? Any updates on that? 667 00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.720 We were all asking him frequently for updates, and so 668 00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:51.319 I'll update you when something happens. 669 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.359 Okay, there's no. 670 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:54.799 Yeah, he's still in the hotel. 671 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.880 Just in the hotel, okay, yep, Yeah, that's just going 672 00:29:58.920 --> 00:29:59.480 to be his home. 673 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.880 Apparently he had like a realtor visit, planned to look 674 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.559 at some stuff, and then he canceled the last second 675 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:06.319 because he said he was too busy. But he doesn't 676 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.079 have a job and doesn't leave the hotels, so I 677 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:09.200 don't know what the hell that means. 678 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.200 So uh, oh, your dad canceled because he was too busy. 679 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.200 That's real. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so we're all, yeah, yeah, 680 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:15.759 it's funny. 681 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.960 I've told this story on on you know, giant bombing 682 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.319 here and stuff, and see comments some people like this 683 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.400 seems like concerning. You should like It's like, yeah, like 684 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.599 the version you get on the podcast is like, oh, 685 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.039 so here's this weird thing that we're dealing with. Of course, 686 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.960 in real life it's like no real ass conversations about 687 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.240 like do we need to like talk to him then? 688 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.599 Yeah, are you guys gonna have like a intervention? I mean, 689 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:39.559 but it's about not having a house. 690 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.599 We're wait to see if he figures him out. I'm 691 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.319 checking in on him all the time, others are checking 692 00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:48.400 in on him all the time. We're not getting much 693 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.960 from him, but yeah, they're very real concern and so 694 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:52.759 I'm fine, I'm fine. 695 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:53.720 I'm fine. I'll figured out. 696 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.079 I'll get serious aout of two and I'll get seriou 697 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.519 It's like, oh man, I just uh it's it's tough. 698 00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:58.200 It is tough. 699 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.279 Parents are tough, you know, because like their full ass 700 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.880 grown adults, and parents probably at no point like the 701 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.839 idea that as their children grow up, the children start 702 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.440 looking at the parent and being like, are you okay. 703 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.160 And the parents like, go fuck yourself. 704 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.359 I fed you, I housed you, I took care of 705 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.880 you during your stupidest moments, and now you have the 706 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.839 audacity to ask me how long this milk has. 707 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.519 Been in the fridge. Get out of here. 708 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.720 This is a common thing that I think most people 709 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.640 experience with their parents, because there is that point of 710 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.960 time when you start saying, well, you're getting a little 711 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:37.759 older now, and I am a little worried about you 712 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.119 leaving the oven on, you know, or like whatever. It 713 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.119 is that parents each have their own unique foibles that 714 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.079 make you a little worried. I have that with my 715 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.039 My dad started doing this weird sleep walking thing at 716 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.839 one stage in his life where he he fell down 717 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.960 the stairs in the middle of the night and he 718 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.680 doesn't remember it. So he woke up and must have 719 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.880 been walking around and made it to the stairs and 720 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:02.799 fell down them. 721 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:04.559 And so it was a huge deal and he was 722 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:05.160 like I'm fine. 723 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.039 I know when I'm walking downstairs and it's like, you, 724 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.720 absolutely the fuck do not because you fell down the stairs. 725 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.720 And he just relocated to a house with no stairs. 726 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.000 He calls it the final move, if you know what 727 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.920 I mean. And now he doesn't have any stairs, he 728 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.759 has to worry about it anymore. So he solved it 729 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:20.240 on his own. 730 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:20.880 He didn't need me. 731 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.559 Yeah. I sleepwalk a lot. Yeah, maybe you should not. 732 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:26.599 We talked about this before. 733 00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.039 On the fourth floor of a building. 734 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.519 Yet I'd have to get that's true. I would have 735 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.960 to there's a fire escape right out back of our bedroom. 736 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.480 I would have to get through a door first. I 737 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.000 don't know if I could do that in my sleep, 738 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.759 although I do a lot of specific stuff when i'm sleepwalking. 739 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.960 But I think I've figured it out. You've seen our apartment. 740 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.000 I think our bedroom is a bit bigger than it 741 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.640 needs to be. It's so big we're gonna add stuff 742 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.319 to it later, because like way back in the day, 743 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:53.960 it used to be a separate apartment that they busted 744 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.839 out the middle and made them, you know, condos, whatever 745 00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.240 you want to call it. I think the room is 746 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.039 so big that when I wake up in the middle 747 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.000 of the night from dreaming, I see shit happening on 748 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.000 the other side of the room, like shadows moving, because 749 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.920 it's so far away that I then freak out and 750 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.400 think there's people in my room, in our room, and 751 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.359 then I turn lights on and like run out to 752 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.720 the living room. Sometimes that happens like on a maybe 753 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.359 weekly basis. Really yeah, and I'm The funny thing is, 754 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:26.599 I'm usually fairly conscious, like I'm there. It slowly dawns 755 00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.200 on me that I'm doing something weird. 756 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.200 So it's not like a sleep paralysis thing. It's not 757 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:31.880 like you wake up you can't. 758 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:32.000 Move and. 759 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:40.079 Over the place, you can't do you No, I thought 760 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:46.400 about just firing off rounds left and right. No I don't. 761 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:48.839 It's kind of like Dan's father, like we joked in 762 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.759 but I am worried about you. I'm worried about Amanda 763 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.319 most of all. 764 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:55.079 I don't. 765 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.400 I don't think I would ever, cause again, I'm there. 766 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:03.200 It's not like it's completely or unconscious stuff. It's I'm 767 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.240 sort of present. I just need it's usually either Amanda 768 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.000 or me, who's like, wait a minute, what am I doing? 769 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:10.880 And I'm kind of embarrassed, so I go back to 770 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.719 the bedroom like I knew what I was doing. I 771 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.679 was in the first place. Yeah, it's a bit, go 772 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.239 back to sleep. 773 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.400 It's four. It's a bit. 774 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.320 That's the witching hour or or the place is haunted 775 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.400 and I'm actually onto something. 776 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:25.760 You need to get a gun. 777 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.400 The ghosts are gaslighting me. I need a ghost gun. 778 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:30.920 It's that level from Future perfect where you have the 779 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.360 ghost gun and the real gun. 780 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.239 Oh, it'd be so fun to be a ghost. Would 781 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.159 love to be a ghost. Yeah, it would be really good. 782 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.079 Sure has guns instead. 783 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:44.480 Of yeah the steel Yeah, a separate gun, right. 784 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.119 Gun for ghosts, but you actually shoot. Yeah, the neighbors 785 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:49.599 the ghost gun. 786 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.119 Yeah, I wish it could be a ghost, just like 787 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:53.920 I wish I could just go like flip a switch 788 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.079 and just be a ghost when I want to, and 789 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:56.199 then go back to just being a guy. 790 00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:58.239 Go to John Drake's house and funk with him. 791 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.599 I do go to John Drake first and foremost when 792 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.800 I think of just working with someone like he being 793 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:04.119 a ghost fucking with John Drake. 794 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:04.920 That's a sitcom. 795 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.679 If you die, or I mean when you die, yeah, 796 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.840 I absolutely you will be a ghost. 797 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:11.840 I have no doubt about it. 798 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.840 You have too much fun resolved back here on Earth 799 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.039 that one lifetime cannot contain that, You'll be. 800 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.519 Yeah, it's just farting pooping. 801 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.079 And everybody's underwear to convince them that they ship their pants. 802 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.840 Poop transparent just turns. 803 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.480 Yeah, they're can mean a separate ghost toilet and ghost 804 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.159 bidet ghost toilet. 805 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:40.199 Yeah, yeah, curly hates of Heaven. You will never see that. 806 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:42.840 Peter's like, what are you doing here? 807 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:43.039 Guy? 808 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.559 Come on, you go to the gates. They're like, we 809 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:47.000 don't want to. 810 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.119 I don't by requirements. Yeah, place wants to. 811 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:59.360 Have no after life will take him. Yeah, ghost on Earth. 812 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.039 He's too bad ass for Hell and too too chaotic 813 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:03.519 for Heaven. 814 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:10.440 Too bad ass for Hell, Satan says all the time. Yeah, sorry, Bud, 815 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.719 but you're just a little too bad ass for Hell. 816 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.280 I'm gonna get that tattoo across my belly button like 817 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.960 a gothic font for Hell. 818 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.679 Number four the god get my way out, too bad 819 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:23.440 ass for Hell. 820 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:26.000 Yeah, funk my way out of Heaven. Shat my way 821 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:35.239 out of Hell. Yeah, we got, we got, we gotta. 822 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.840 Someone's I hope someone's writing down these bumper stickers because 823 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:38.719 we got a lot of Oh. 824 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.519 Yeah, we gotta get in that bumper sticker business. We 825 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:41.159 had that idea. 826 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.159 Funcked my way out of heaven the angels. It ran 827 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.079 trained through all the angels. Then I got bored. 828 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:48.880 Get him out of here. 829 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:52.199 Cribs at night. 830 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.400 If you if you hear a soft fart in your crib, 831 00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:58.719 know that it was us. 832 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:03.960 Do you want to talk about video games? Yeah? 833 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:04.320 Sure? 834 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:11.639 Oh god, she's got the hell. Yeah, God, God, I'm 835 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:16.880 just gonna start hurling. God, oh Mary, that's cool, that's 836 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.440 so mean. 837 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:23.559 Look at how gooey. There's a clear hole. 838 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:25.239 So fucked up. 839 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.480 It's discussing me and I didn't just hurl my insides 840 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.079 out from Okay, we gotta stop. 841 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:32.840 He's gonna puke. 842 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.079 No, no, this is actually I can't tell this is 843 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:41.000 funny or fucked up. Yeah, all right, let's come back. 844 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:46.800 Let's go all right. If you're just joining on the yeah, alright, okay. 845 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:47.159 We'd been back. 846 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.880 If you're not watching the video version, Mary has donned 847 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:55.199 the aforementioned macaroni sweatshirt. And it's even through these like cameras. 848 00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.199 It's real detailed. It's like they put a Night Seen 849 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.480 twenty by ten eighty jpeg onto a hoodie. God, uh, 850 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.559 it's it's and Dan's got a thing over his face 851 00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.679 because you can't look at this is kind of fucked up. 852 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.000 That is I'm not kidding. That is making my stomach. 853 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.360 It's really really delay. 854 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.320 Do you need to change out of it? 855 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:17.639 Dan? 856 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.719 No, I'm a big boy. No, I'm a big boy. 857 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.079 Make me sick. 858 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.480 It is a gross sweater, like I think it really 859 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.199 it's gone out of its way, Like how look how 860 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.000 shiny they made all the cheese? 861 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.519 Sure didn't they? I don't show us your pits, pitt 862 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.760 macaroni and cheese. About to say macari heard me, but 863 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.199 it's been attacking me for a year now. 864 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:43.480 But they got nude. 865 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:49.440 Beaches oh before Yeah, the French babes don't shave their pits. 866 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.440 Line just made me, uh reminded me? Have I told 867 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.559 you guys, we're watching through all the James Bond movies, 868 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.119 like I got the Blu Ray collection finally. 869 00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:58.679 Why would that make you think of that? 870 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.840 Uh? French babes, I don't know. All the women are 871 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.480 just items like objects. 872 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.079 That's just such a clear line from Home Alone and you're. 873 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.519 Like, oh, I said that, and then you did a 874 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.199 home Alone line. But then I heard about French babes 875 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:10.559 not shaving the pits. It reminded me of all the 876 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.880 women in bikinis and James Bond And I haven't told 877 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:13.840 you we're rewatching these. 878 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:15.960 Have you seen like the early all of them. 879 00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:19.519 I've only seen like the Brasen and like half the 880 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:21.039 craig Ones. You got to stop doing that. 881 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.480 Mary sucks. 882 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.360 If wait with this, it looks like I'm putting my 883 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.079 hand in in a noodle. 884 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.960 That's okay, hear me out. 885 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:40.960 That's how you get out of heaven. 886 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:48.760 Bad for the camera probably, but anyway, I don't. Yeah, 887 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.119 we watched Doctor No and From Russia with Love. It's 888 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.119 crazy how slow these movies were. 889 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.760 That's why I struggled to go back because I was like, 890 00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.519 you know, I love Golden Eye on the Bras and 891 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:00.639 Ones and st Up and I was like, oh, I've 892 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.119 heard Connor is the best. And I saw like gold 893 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.199 Finger and I was like, okay, I appreciate that, like 894 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.239 oh that's where doctor Evil comes from or whatever, but 895 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:08.079 like it wasn't like that was. 896 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.159 Like Russia would love. Oh okay, well what about one? 897 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.880 You could see a million like you know, references and 898 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.719 Simpsons bits and stuff that came from these movies. 899 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.480 But it's like I didn't find it like super exciting. 900 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:19.480 You know, I always forget that Robert Shaw was the 901 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.320 Russian the Specter assassin trained to kill him too, which 902 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.639 is just funny seeing him when he's not Quint Jaws. 903 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.559 Yeah, but uh yeah, we're rewatching them. It's like Doctor No. 904 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:31.320 The first movie. 905 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.639 Holy shit, it was slow, really, and then out of nowhere, 906 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.239 someone gets burned alive and you watch the whole thing. 907 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.199 It's it's a very weirdly paced series. And then of course, 908 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.280 like even like Pierce Brasen era, they they upped the 909 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:46.280 action a lot. 910 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:47.519 They went from being these like. 911 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.119 Merely these spy thrillers with some kind of shitty action 912 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:56.440 sequences to all of a sudden, the most finely choreographed 913 00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.039 fight scenes in any movies ever with Daniel Craig. The 914 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.840 Pierce Brosn't set pieces gets crazier and crazier, and then 915 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.719 til he's fucking driving a Lamborghini through an ice palace. 916 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.760 Yeah, in top of a car invisible car. 917 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:09.199 Yeah. 918 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.079 I don't know why I thought it was a Lamborghini, 919 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:12.199 but anyway, we're playing those. 920 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:13.559 Speaking of. 921 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.480 Old movies, I've been playing Indie in Indiana Jones and 922 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:18.840 the Great. 923 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:19.360 Show so nice. 924 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:20.480 Yes, what do you think? 925 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:26.480 I just got to Giza, the second big area. I 926 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:28.719 like it a lot, However, I don't think I'm could 927 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.840 finish it. It just made me want to re download 928 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.079 all the Dishonored games. 929 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:34.039 It's great. 930 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.000 I love that Machine Games went this route and did 931 00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.639 not feel the need to just make a shooter. I 932 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.840 have not fired my gun once and I'm in like 933 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.920 a or seven hours in Because there's like the interstitial stuff. 934 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.519 I think the moment to moment gameplay is pretty clunky, 935 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.440 especially like some of the platforming stuff you're doing. It's 936 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.679 not heavy platforming, but when you're going up certain ledges 937 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.639 just doesn't feel great. I also think I love scouring 938 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.199 the environment and the environmental storytelling. That's why I'm playing it, 939 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.920 and the main story is actually has me pretty hooked. 940 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.760 I think it's done a good job of that. But 941 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:10.280 there's just something like after I've crouch walked through my 942 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.400 for my sixth hour and I'm just bonking Nazis over 943 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.079 the head with any number of items, which is fun. 944 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.679 The novelty has worn off, sure, and it just made 945 00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.039 me want to play Dishonored, in which any within any 946 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.559 given five minutes, I could warp to someone in like 947 00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.159 inhabit their body, go kill their friend, and then jump 948 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:28.800 off a ledge as them, and then go back to 949 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.159 my body. There's yeah, and it's it's unfair to just 950 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.000 I'm not like outright comparing them, but obviously there's some 951 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:40.159 immersive sim inspiration in Indy. I it has led me 952 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.400 to replay Dishonored, and those games are still really fucking good. 953 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.159 I'm playing the first one's definitive edition on PS five. 954 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.920 I think it's a PS four game, but I'm playing 955 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:48.559 it on PS five. 956 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.199 I think it's just interesting that it even took that 957 00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.960 approach to it. I like, I think Indy is more 958 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.119 interesting than it had any right to be, or that 959 00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.079 I think anybody could have recentably expected it to be. 960 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.760 I do share some of the planes, Like, I think 961 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.880 a lot of the strengths are in the presentation, the 962 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.719 way they use the license, some of the exploration stuff, 963 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.039 like really doing like Indiana doing shit throughout the game. 964 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.000 But like, yeah, clunky is a good word for a 965 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.400 lot of the stuff. And I'm with you on like 966 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.320 you know, it is very fun to sneak up on 967 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.800 these Nazis and just beat the shit out of them 968 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.599 with a frying pan. But you do that like fifty 969 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.119 sixty seventy times, you know. And I did get to 970 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.920 a point where I think I stopped playing it. I 971 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.840 think I'm done with it. It's still in my top 972 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.079 ten of the year. I liked a lot, but I 973 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.280 got to a point. Slight spoilers here, mostly gameplay or 974 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.199 if anybody wants to mute or anything. Yeah, I got 975 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:35.840 the point. 976 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.920 Where it's like, yeah, I like, oh, yeah, we have 977 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:38.599 people listening. 978 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.800 Yeah, yah, we're recording this. Yeah yeah, yeah. I saw 979 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.719 that the game was like, you know, twelve fourteen hours long. 980 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.360 It looks like I had like maybe two or three 981 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.559 hours left in the game. And its basically this thing 982 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.000 where it's like you take a boat up to a 983 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:51.800 pyramid and you have to get inside the pyramid, and 984 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.000 to do it, you have to like go underwater, and 985 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.039 there's just a big ass snake, like a giant like anaconda, 986 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.280 and you know, it's a go indie he hates yeah, 987 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.000 and this is like the biggest snake you've ever seen, 988 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.639 and it's like a I hate underwater sequences and I 989 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.199 hate stealth sequences, and I hate especially hate stell sequences 990 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.519 where it's like insta fail if you get caught, and 991 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.840 so it's like it's all of these things doing that. 992 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.320 Yeah, and it keeps. 993 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.639 Going for a while because I was like, you know what, 994 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.119 I'm enjoying this game. I've died like ten times through 995 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.880 some horse shit here. I'll keep trying. I'll keep trying, 996 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:24.679 and then it would just keep going and I'd be like, 997 00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.000 all right, I just got to get past this part. 998 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.440 I'm sure I'll be on solid ground soon. I don't 999 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.679 have to worry about this fucking snake And it's just 1000 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.320 like I probably died like twenty times, and it's just 1001 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:35.679 like you're just swimming through stuff. It's kind of hard 1002 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.760 to see things and keep track of where you're going, 1003 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:39.960 and then all of a sudden you see this like 1004 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.840 red ring pop up Snakey Too makes the same music 1005 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.000 stinger every time back at the beginning. I just got 1006 00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.440 to that point where it's like, you know what, I 1007 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.400 think I've seen what this game does. I think I 1008 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.000 appreciate it for what it does, and I can definitely 1009 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.760 speak to it. I've probably played eighty plus percent of 1010 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.159 the game. At this point, I think I'm good. So 1011 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.639 I did stop playing, and it's just like that sequence 1012 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.079 was rough for me. I did not enjoy that at all. 1013 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.199 But I also still have an overall, you know, very 1014 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.039 positive feeling about that game, but. 1015 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.159 Just didn't So you quit because of a snake, which 1016 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.360 is pretty sertificant in a twelve to fourteen hour game. 1017 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.679 Yeah, I mean I kind of was at the point 1018 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.079 anyway where I was ready to just kind of get 1019 00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.079 to the end, you know, because it was like I 1020 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:21.400 was going on this pyramid. I was like, all right, 1021 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.960 there's just I can see what's gonna happen here. There's 1022 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.280 gonna be a bunch of puzzles and stuff, and I've 1023 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:25.960 done a ton of them in this game already. They're fine, 1024 00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.400 you know, they're good. So I was ready to be 1025 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.079 done anyway. And I think just that being a very 1026 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.519 annoying sequence. If I was loving the game and I 1027 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:36.719 wanted to keep going forever, I wouldn't have let the 1028 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.400 sequence stop me. I would have pushed through it. But 1029 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.440 it's like, this is just great, I'm good, I'll move 1030 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:41.079 on to something else. 1031 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.119 Is that like the In terms of big areas, there's 1032 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:45.199 the Vatican there's Giza. 1033 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.239 What's after that, Oh, the the Himalayas, the like snowy area, 1034 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.360 which is that's a really cool area. It's not it's 1035 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.119 not like a super long open thing, but it's a 1036 00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:55.440 it's a cool set piece area. 1037 00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.840 And all back to the beginning of Raiders, he's in 1038 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.840 the mountains when he sees what's her name the bartender right. 1039 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:05.719 All right, right in the fire and all that stuff. Yeah, 1040 00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.440 it's like yeah, and then it's like, I'm going to 1041 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.079 say this perfectly pronunciated. It's like Suku Thai or something. 1042 00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:13.519 I think it's I don't know if it's like Thailand 1043 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.639 or Shanghai or something. It's just like it's a jungle 1044 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:21.800 boat going around snakes. Sounds more like village kind of 1045 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.320 looks like, you know, like Pocalypse now when they get 1046 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.920 to those villages near the end. But yeah, just going 1047 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:27.280 down the river and then you get to a pyramid 1048 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:27.719 and stuff. 1049 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.079 So such a beautiful movie. 1050 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.199 Oh yeah, but yeah, great game. But I was I 1051 00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:34.360 was ready to be done by the end. 1052 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.119 Okay, well, I mean good game pass game. 1053 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.719 Apparently it's a really good game pass game for sure. 1054 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.000 Pick the wrong month to quick game pass. 1055 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:50.599 You know what I mean, yeah, there's other stuff real buck. 1056 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.000 Astro has a Christmas level that's out and it's it's 1057 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.000 pretty substantial. It utilizes Yeah, it's it's really cute. It's 1058 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.960 obviously just superfessedive and there's just some million little jingle 1059 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.000 bills and stuff that you can spin through and send 1060 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.760 flying everywhere. There's like seven new bots to get from 1061 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.159 different PlayStation games. There's like fifteen presents to find, and 1062 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.599 then you have access to all of the different like 1063 00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.599 here's the frog box and gloves, here's the shrink power here, 1064 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.480 So like you can go around and utilize all that 1065 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.920 stuff in this one big like festive Wonderland level, big 1066 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.440 Christmas tree, that big jolly thing with a face, and 1067 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.000 it's it's everything you would want an Astro Christmas level 1068 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.880 to be. What playing Oh Gex and Kroc and Tamba 1069 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.400 GaX isn't in the base game? No, no X, Kroc, Tamba. 1070 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.239 I think there might be a hell Diver in there. 1071 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.000 I'm not sure what is from Tamba. 1072 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.400 Oh, what's what's per rap of the Wrapper from? 1073 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.440 I thought you guys were just making up words. 1074 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:51.679 What's Donkey Kong from Mario? I guess technically Mario is 1075 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:52.320 from Donkey Kong. 1076 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.400 Yeah, do I know more about Mario than Dan does? 1077 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.039 Yeah, rubbing her macaroni jpeg. 1078 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:07.000 Well that's fun. 1079 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:07.519 That's nice. 1080 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.400 Are they like, is there a roadmap out? Are they 1081 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.679 going to continue pushing stuff out DLC wise. 1082 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:12.920 For a while? 1083 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:14.880 I think the only thing they really announced early on 1084 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:16.639 was that they were going to do the speed run levels, 1085 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.119 and then I didn't know until I saw the team, 1086 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.960 the Temasobie team at the Game Awards and they told 1087 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.679 me like, by the way, there's Christmas level coming out, 1088 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.679 and I figure, like the next day or something, it 1089 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:27.920 was out. So I don't think they're announcing stuff like 1090 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.679 very far ahead of time, you know. Okay, I hope 1091 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:33.199 they do more. I mean, I just I want a 1092 00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.320 sequel at this point. I very much want that. But yeah, 1093 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:37.679 I'll take anything I can get with that game. 1094 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:39.639 It's a fun game. 1095 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.239 It's great that they're continuing to update it too, especially 1096 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.920 from all the hype from winning Game of the Year 1097 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.440 and congrats to them for taking home. 1098 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:51.199 The big prize, you know. 1099 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.159 I mean, Game of the Year is still quite coveted, 1100 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.920 and it's cool to see a team that I think. 1101 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.000 I think it's a nice Cinderella story. 1102 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.159 Considering that as a team originally was like, we're playing 1103 00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:07.920 with tech for the PlayStation, and we're just an internal 1104 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.440 team that wants to have fun with this sick ass controllers, 1105 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.039 So we're gonna have a lot of fun here. But 1106 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.559 they made a game that was so smooth and so 1107 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.559 polished and fun that it ended up being their gody. 1108 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.079 I just think that's great. It's so good for them. 1109 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:23.400 Yep. 1110 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:25.360 I think it's fantastic, And you know how I feel 1111 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.639 about that game, So to see any success or praise 1112 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.840 go its way, I love seeing so very I think. 1113 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.880 That's great, so good for them. 1114 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.440 I looked as forward to seeing what like the next 1115 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.599 thing they have in store, because I think maybe now 1116 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.280 that they've made a full fledged Astrobot with all the 1117 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:44.400 bells and whistles, will they branch out and make something. 1118 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.039 New is what I'd be interested in. 1119 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.639 I think what I want, and I think would probably 1120 00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.159 be likely considering the success is an Astrobot sequel, And 1121 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.920 I think that since this was the big everything about 1122 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.119 this story and the way it ended and all the 1123 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.880 bots was so PlayStation nostallger centric, I would think that 1124 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.239 the sequel, you know, Okay, well, we've done the PlayStation, 1125 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.360 you know, Bonanza, Let's just have Astrobot to have his 1126 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.480 own adventure that's not necessarily as super tight, like maybe 1127 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.440 still flies around the controller stuff like that, but like 1128 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.719 maybe not collecting one hundred and seventy PlayStation characters or 1129 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:16.159 stuff like that. 1130 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.239 So yeah, I don't know. I'm interested in whatever they 1131 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:19.639 do next. 1132 00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.880 I want it would be great to have an equivalent 1133 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.119 of Astrobot for like every major publisher. Nintendo does that 1134 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.679 stuff all the time, but like, yeah, it'd be cool 1135 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:33.559 to have like an Xbox thing. Yeah. 1136 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.719 It's like, I mean, you got Halo, you got Gears, 1137 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.519 like a bunch of Forts of Cars. I mean, you 1138 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:41.960 can do the deep cuts and stuff. There's all the 1139 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.280 like originally Blood Wake and you know, Crimson Skies and stuff, 1140 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.039 but like it's not as like mascot heavy. I guess 1141 00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.039 you could do like Abe's Odyssey and stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah, because. 1142 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.800 They were always trying to go like more mature sort 1143 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.840 of from the beginning with their post racing. 1144 00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.159 Yeah, I mean it's a master tat from day one, you. 1145 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.440 Know, just every place from Flight Simulator. 1146 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:07.480 Yeah, yeah, there with their little robot butts shaken yeah, 1147 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.360 they're trying to make them as cute as humanly possible, 1148 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.800 but it's just all like animatronic items. 1149 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.519 That Ox got cake. 1150 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.559 I've been playing Bollionaire. Have you heard of this game? 1151 00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:25.719 I know if that was a ty no, I have not. 1152 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:27.559 I put it in all cats so that. 1153 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:28.320 It would be clear. 1154 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:28.760 Yeah. 1155 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.960 So I found out about this because the developer who 1156 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:37.119 made Blatro tweeted that he was playing it and he 1157 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.400 was like, this is a great game, and I hope 1158 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.960 more people hear about it. And there was something about 1159 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.039 the trailer that I saw that I thought kind of 1160 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.800 had Bilatro type mechanics where you're building a deck per se. 1161 00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:55.039 But Bollionaire is not a card game. It is a 1162 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.519 plinko game. I don't know if that's actually what you call. 1163 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.320 It, but where you drop the ball, but you're not 1164 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.639 like picking where you drop it. It always comes from 1165 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:04.559 the same center thing. 1166 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.639 The ball always hits the top of a triangle. And 1167 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.639 then your deck is all the different things you put 1168 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.159 in the triangle that your ball can hit, and if 1169 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.840 it hits it, you make money and you have to 1170 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.960 solve for how much money you make each round. I 1171 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.800 think you get five ball drops and the first round 1172 00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.880 it's like, hey, you need to make five hundred dollars, 1173 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.039 and so every time you dink something, maybe you get 1174 00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:36.440 five bucks, maybe you get twenty. Hopefully you can make 1175 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:40.800 something where it just keeps hitting the same clinker multiple times, 1176 00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:42.880 and so you end up making like three or four 1177 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.840 hundred dollars off of one ball drop. But the amount 1178 00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.559 that you have to make adds very quickly, and so 1179 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.199 by like the fourth or fifth round, you have to 1180 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.639 make one hundred thousand dollars. And so it's all about 1181 00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.639 building your Plinko deck to make sure that the balls 1182 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.960 are hitting something that actually adds to the other things 1183 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.079 that you've added. And that sounds very complicated, So let 1184 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:05.760 me give you an example, because this is how I 1185 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.679 did it. I learned that each time you finish a ball, 1186 00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:12.719 it lets you add another Plinko into your triangle. 1187 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:13.639 You get to pick something. 1188 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.920 So maybe it's a tree that every time you hit 1189 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.280 it it makes you money, but the tree gains currency 1190 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:20.880 each day. 1191 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:22.400 It grows like an actual tree. 1192 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.760 And so if you survive today twenty in this game, 1193 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.559 now it's now it's like worth hundreds of dollars every 1194 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.599 time you plink it there's other ones I think are 1195 00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:36.239 really fascinating because they interact with other plinkos. So there's 1196 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.719 one that lets you every time if you touch it, 1197 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.199 it takes it with it. It like basically like it 1198 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.079 carries it on its back. And now you have an 1199 00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.960 item with you. And if you touch another one while 1200 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.000 you're carrying the thing that you were carrying, sorry, it 1201 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.960 makes a second. It makes a second Plinko ball, So 1202 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.880 now you have multi ball. I know this sounds kind 1203 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.039 of weird, but it's all themed as it is silly looking, 1204 00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.239 and I will say it's like rudimentary like in the 1205 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.880 UI and the design of the menu is like this, 1206 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:12.719 this was made by one person. 1207 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.000 This is like clearly like UI art, but it's it's fine. 1208 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:17.119 It gets the job done. 1209 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.079 What I enjoyed the most was finding commonalities between different plinkos. 1210 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.360 An example would be that I found that if you 1211 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:27.840 carry a cash register and then you hit an item 1212 00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.079 while you were carrying a cash register, you release a coin, 1213 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:33.920 which is essentially another plinko, and the coins would make 1214 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:35.800 money if you could but get them at a piggy bank, 1215 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:38.760 and the piggy banks would accrew money over time, and 1216 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:40.159 so by the end of this game, and the reason 1217 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:42.119 I ended up winning this game was because I had 1218 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.960 so many goddamn coins in my piggy bank. My piggy 1219 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.320 banks were giving me twenty thousand dollars per round, and 1220 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.519 so I was rich as fuck because of these piggy banks. 1221 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.000 But took me like seven or eight goes at this 1222 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.800 game to discover all of these connections between the plinkos 1223 00:54:57.800 --> 00:54:59.000 and actually and actually. 1224 00:54:58.760 --> 00:54:59.320 Getting it done. 1225 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.119 I think that that I could tell that was going 1226 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:02.440 to be the case is that you have to like 1227 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.840 play it, you know, get through a few runs for 1228 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:06.599 to click, because like I was playing it on a 1229 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.519 plane and it was just you know, I'm playing. 1230 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:09.320 I just like turn my brain off. 1231 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.000 And sure it is a very turn off game, like 1232 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:13.440 you can just plank. 1233 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.960 Away once you learn it, because like when I was 1234 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:17.719 starting it on a plane, it was very much like, 1235 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.320 all right, the block of cheese does this and these 1236 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:21.719 if I hit it from underneath, this does this and 1237 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.559 stuff and everything like this seems cool, but I just 1238 00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:26.079 don't want to think it all on this flight, and 1239 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:27.519 so I just love the Vampire Survivors. 1240 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:28.280 But that's funny. 1241 00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.840 Curious to play more of Baillionaire, I did like the 1242 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:31.760 whole vibe of it. 1243 00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.280 I encourage you to play it another round and like 1244 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.960 play around with the idea that like, uh, because it's 1245 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:39.920 a triangle and because the ball drops in the same 1246 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.840 spot each way, your's like my main hint, the very 1247 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:48.320 top of the triangle is your juice. If you put 1248 00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:53.800 something there that your ball will now carry, you are guaranteed. 1249 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.320 To make multi ball. If that makes sense. 1250 00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.480 Okay, you can game the system a little bit by saying, Hey, 1251 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.320 the top of my triangle is going to be a chicken, 1252 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.559 and every time you hit it, it's going to release eggs, 1253 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.519 and then the eggs will become food, and then the 1254 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.039 food will become my main income for that round. And 1255 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.360 it's I think it's fun. I do not think that 1256 00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:16.079 this is of blatro status. The Bolotro dev tweeted it, 1257 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:17.800 and I was like, oh shit, If Bolotro loved it, 1258 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.960 this must be a fucking banger. I think it's a 1259 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.039 fun way to waste some time. I don't think this 1260 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.199 is an expensive game. You can tell this is a 1261 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.199 kind of single dev situation. But for people who are 1262 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.960 Plinko fans, if you are like, hey, I just kind 1263 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.679 of want to connect weird components in a Plinko machine. 1264 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:36.119 This is for you. 1265 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.159 I think this is a fun game to waste some 1266 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.039 time and play around with, but again rudimentary, especially the 1267 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.920 menu design. The text is weirdly small, and I found 1268 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.639 that I had to like look like an old grandma 1269 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.280 where I was like what does that say? And I 1270 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.159 was like kind of trying to zoom in on the game. 1271 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.000 But it was a delightful game that I played throughout 1272 00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:01.360 my Game Awards prots. When I wasn't working or attending 1273 00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:03.480 the Game wards. I played this in my hotel room. 1274 00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.239 It took me about seven tries to beat it. I've 1275 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.159 played it about I've done about fifteen rounds, maybe twenty now, 1276 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:11.360 and I've I've beat it three times now that i've 1277 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.920 not I've solved how to make money. So yeah, I 1278 00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.159 think it's fun. I actually think it was a cute game, 1279 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.480 but definitely a more simple experience. 1280 00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:23.719 Kind of reminds me of like almost like that Peglin 1281 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.440 you know, where it's like, Okay, here's you know, we 1282 00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.800 take a couple ideas from other games and it's kind 1283 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.440 of a low production thing, but it's you know, a fun. 1284 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:31.760 Hook to it. 1285 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.760 It's a good like a good indie dev situation where 1286 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.000 you're like, this is a good concept, and I can 1287 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:40.400 see why it has legs. 1288 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:42.360 Is everything are all the bells and whistles? 1289 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:42.559 There? 1290 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.119 No, But you can understand the game, and I think 1291 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:46.119 you can have fun with it. 1292 00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.559 And I absolutely agree with you because I was one 1293 00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.239 hundred percent hooked on Peglin. I think Peglin is a 1294 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.360 fantastic I think Peglin is better than this game in 1295 00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.960 the sense that it's got like those RPG mechanics and you're. 1296 00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.639 Like growing your character over time. 1297 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.559 Like I'm a huge Peglin advocate, but I think Ballionaire 1298 00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:05.239 is just an easy way to like spend an hour 1299 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:09.440 and play around with these building mechanics. If you have 1300 00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.840 the right things together, crazy shit happens, and it's fun 1301 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:13.679 to watch balls drop. 1302 00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:18.320 Yeah, uh right and timely. 1303 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.920 That's right. I've got the perfect New Year game. 1304 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.519 It's a Ballionaire to everyone do that at midnight and years, 1305 00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:27.480 I'm canceling the party. 1306 00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.400 Ball drop your balls all at the same time. 1307 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:30.920 Yep. 1308 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.400 I don't have a I've been playing a lot more metaphor, 1309 00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.400 I don't have a ton more to say that I 1310 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:42.480 didn't during our Game of Year episode. Uh my my uh, 1311 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.559 criticis not criticism, my praise for how often it shakes 1312 00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.840 up its own structure and pacing that stands. In fact, 1313 00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.280 I honestly think this game like raises the bar pretty 1314 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.159 substantially for like long form Japanese role playing games. 1315 00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:57.960 Uh. 1316 00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.039 It's every big dungeon I get to, it's like a 1317 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.360 whole new like consideration and prep that I have to do. 1318 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.960 And then I'm also just really enjoying the more archetypes 1319 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.679 classes I on lock. Combining all those it's a it's 1320 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.840 a great game. I still am liking it a lot. 1321 00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.800 I'm glad, and then I'm still liking it. How far 1322 00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:19.360 in it are you? Just for context, because it's not a. 1323 00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:23.239 S game, No, I want to say, I don't know 1324 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.719 that our count it's got to be at least fifty. 1325 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:32.599 I'm fourth major Dune, fifth major dungeon Palace whatever you 1326 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.400 want to call them dungeon. So I'm far in and 1327 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.599 I've got you know, I've got you know, more party 1328 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.360 members than I can put in one party. But it's 1329 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:41.960 a yeah, enjoying it quite a bit. 1330 00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:43.000 Uh. 1331 00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:47.119 And then only other thing I have played Warhammer Three's 1332 00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:52.039 newest dlc omens of destruction and it's fun. They they 1333 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:57.239 reworked some factions. I won't go into super detail. Oh 1334 00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:58.840 I thought, Dan left to go it rose for a 1335 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.000 second puke or something? 1336 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:03.199 Is this about the mac and cheese? 1337 01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:06.000 No, I'm gonna turn off Mary's camera here soon. 1338 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:11.039 Yep. But yeah, No, Warhammer Three's good streak of DLC 1339 01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:14.480 is ongoing after that clusterfuck. That was a shadows of 1340 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:18.400 change about a year and a half ago. Dan, you've 1341 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:20.519 been playing Marvel Rivals, which is surprising. 1342 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.320 Well, yeah, I mean I normally wouldn't have Well, right, 1343 01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:26.400 I had the same thought. No, we did it for 1344 01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:26.840 a stream. 1345 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:27.039 You know. 1346 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:28.960 That's a great thing about I've heard good things to 1347 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:29.559 be clear. 1348 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:30.960 But yeah, I have to. 1349 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:36.079 But I just it's not a this podcast game, right, It's. 1350 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.440 Part of what's fun about, you know, working in like 1351 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:40.960 Giant Bomb for a living, because like I might get 1352 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.920 exposed to stuff I would never seek out myself. And 1353 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.280 it's like we decided to do a stream of it, 1354 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.599 like a big multiplayer one, like sure, all I'll hop 1355 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.760 in and skeptical at first because like I'm not even 1356 01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:51.559 a huge like Overwatch guy, Like I liked it for 1357 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.159 like fifty hours when it first came out, but I 1358 01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:55.400 haven't really thought about hero shooters since then, and I 1359 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.440 don't give a fuck about Marvel, So it's like this 1360 01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.280 doesn't sound like something for me at all. And it's 1361 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.760 not like I'm gonna go nuts and play this like 1362 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:03.519 I play cod all the time or anything, But like, 1363 01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.039 I really did appreciate what it's doing. I think there 1364 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:07.840 were a lot of like really fun powers that all 1365 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.519 the different characters had, and it made me realize that, Like, 1366 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.639 it made me think a lot about hero shooters in 1367 01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.519 twenty twenty four going into twenty twenty five, because obviously 1368 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.360 with Concord this year being that big story and the 1369 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:23.519 failure there and a lot of what you heard was like, oh. 1370 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:24.480 Well, you know, hero shooters. 1371 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.679 This was started developing when hero shooters were supposed to 1372 01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:28.159 be the next big thing, and now it's just there's 1373 01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:31.480 not that appetite for it. But that failed and people 1374 01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.920 are really liking Marvel Rivals. So is it maybe just that, like, Okay, 1375 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.800 they made a good one of these. It's free to 1376 01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.440 play and has a bunch of recognizable ip with Marvel, 1377 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.119 like they just kind of did it right, Whereas Concord 1378 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.679 was like a new ip no one knew, and then 1379 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.920 they like charged for it. So maybe it was just 1380 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:53.079 it's not that people won't give a hero shooter a 1381 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.400 shot nowadays, it's that just the whole launch of that 1382 01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.159 was bungled. You know, the whole marketing was very bad 1383 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.360 of that game. So yeah, con Card did not have 1384 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:03.280 much of an identity. 1385 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:04.039 That's the thing. 1386 01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:06.800 It's like Marvel Rivals, No, Marvel Overwatch, Like that's an 1387 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.960 easy sell and then it's free to play. You can 1388 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:10.320 picture a lot of people it's been like, yeah, I'll 1389 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.199 give it a shot, whereas like Concord's like, here's this 1390 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:13.800 thing you've never really heard of and you don't know 1391 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:15.039 what it is or how it stands out. 1392 01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.199 Also give us forty dollars to try it. It's like, 1393 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:18.599 that's such a harder cell. 1394 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.920 It's ampossible sell when Overwatch is there. And I think, like, ultimately, 1395 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:26.119 I actually think Overwatch is the bigger killer because Overwatch 1396 01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.000 people have had lots of time to hear about it 1397 01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:30.639 and learn about it, and it's free. 1398 01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.440 So how are you comp You can't compete? 1399 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.559 Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, I guess I was just surprised 1400 01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.360 by how much fun I had with it, you know, 1401 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.320 finding your character where it's gonna You start with like 1402 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.280 punish crews, a very simple just kind of like shooting 1403 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:46.199 like Soldier seventy six type guy, and then I saw, 1404 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.119 you know, I would fight like some Iron Man on 1405 01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.280 the other team and see them flying around shooting lasers 1406 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:51.480 and stuff, and it's like, oh, that looks fun. 1407 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.039 I realized I was really good with Ironman. So it's okay. 1408 01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:54.880 I think I found my guy. 1409 01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.199 That's really fun. But again, probably not gonna, you know, 1410 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.440 put fifty one hundred hours into it. But you know, 1411 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.360 if we did another stream on Giant Blomb or something, 1412 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:05.199 I would happily jump in and not be skeptical because 1413 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.039 it turns out it's actually quite fun. 1414 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:11.159 I feel like everybody's sharing the Shark guy. I don't 1415 01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:11.639 know who that is. 1416 01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:13.199 I don't know what the deal with that dude is. 1417 01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.760 Everybody likes that shark guy or likes to hate that 1418 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.280 shark guy. 1419 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.760 I don't know's I see him in a lot of matches. 1420 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.519 Nicky Grayson was the shark on our team and ate 1421 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:26.599 me and Minati and barfed us off of a cliff 1422 01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:27.719 and killed us accidentally. 1423 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:28.400 So that's cool. 1424 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.320 It can do that pretty that's pretty cool. 1425 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:33.599 Yeah, barfed you up like back and cheese. 1426 01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:35.760 When I play uh. 1427 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:41.360 When when I play Yoshi Uh in the competitive I 1428 01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.960 always try and swallow people and poop them out over 1429 01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:44.760 the ledge as an egg. 1430 01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:46.320 It's a classic yep, yep. 1431 01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.239 It's my only move. So once they find out that 1432 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.119 that's my move and I'm I'm in deep shit. 1433 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.400 Mine is DKA and I grabbed them and I just 1434 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.400 like walk off the edge and I just like drag 1435 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:55.840 them to their doom along with me. 1436 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.800 Maybe I'm a shark girl too. Then I just like 1437 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:01.400 to I usually learn one. 1438 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.960 Move and then I say, once you guys figure me out, 1439 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:05.639 there's a short chess match. 1440 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:09.360 I have one move. It's kind of your thing, so 1441 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:13.679 we better get used to it. Yeah, no, thumbs up, 1442 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:14.079 it's good. 1443 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.559 I'm glad Mary you're playing Rocket League again. And hell 1444 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.920 Divers too, well, you probably never stopped, but you wrote 1445 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:21.880 them down this time, so it must be substantial. 1446 01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:22.760 They're connected. 1447 01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:27.039 So when Game Awards happened, Hell Divers had an update 1448 01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:29.920 and the update was a new faction, which we've been 1449 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:31.039 waiting for for a long time. 1450 01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.000 There's a bit of a war that is important. 1451 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.320 Yes, so they've been teasing this for a while, but 1452 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.360 I think there already was an alien, so there's essentially 1453 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.159 like there's bugs and robots, and then they would keep 1454 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:48.480 teasing that something else was coming. Yes, laser stuff there 1455 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:51.519 was like and it just kind of we never heard 1456 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:53.639 anything for such a long time that I think it 1457 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:58.320 kind of the the tension dissipated. It was just like whatever, 1458 01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.639 like release it or don't. Guys, like we're sick of 1459 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.480 these laser conversations. Like there's only so much you can 1460 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:06.519 build on Reddit about this. So I think I ended 1461 01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:08.440 up kind of fading off a little bit. But the 1462 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:12.719 Game Awards they revealed the new faction, which is sure aliens, 1463 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.280 but like, let's be real, it's zombies, Like it's people 1464 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.039 that are in a zombie state. Yeah, it's strange. And 1465 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:23.960 the update was like out now, to which everyone freaks out. 1466 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.159 I'm like, fuck, I'm mean I f yeah. I left 1467 01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:31.440 immediately from the Game Awards early and played this with 1468 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.440 my buds. It was a wonderful resurgence of having an 1469 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:39.239 excuse to play hell Divers with with people again and 1470 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.519 play zombie mode. It is very different than the other 1471 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.760 modes because zombies take in my opinion, a little bit 1472 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.719 more bullets to put down, and they're fast, so you 1473 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.719 have to constantly be running backwards while you're. 1474 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:53.559 Doing zombie mode. 1475 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:56.599 I think that you have to kind of almost a 1476 01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.760 completely different setup because I in bug mode. I would 1477 01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.239 really like fire breaker, incendiary or something that basically lights 1478 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:04.760 them on fire. 1479 01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.639 But because zombies have that extra bit of life, they. 1480 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:10.559 Essentially just run at you on fire, and that they 1481 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:13.719 can light you on fire, so fires and is effective. 1482 01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.719 The best is just heavy bullet damage type guns or 1483 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.639 something that would even do knock back so that you 1484 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:23.559 can give yourself a little bit more space. 1485 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:28.320 So I had to completely change up what my build was. 1486 01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:32.159 I essentially put everything into light armor that let me 1487 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.480 run because you need to be able to be very fluid. 1488 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:35.519 I use a. 1489 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.719 Jetpack again because it's really fun to jet pack overboards 1490 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:40.960 of zombies that are chasing after you. 1491 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.199 It's fun, you, guys, like I'm back in the hell. 1492 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:45.719 Divers is a great fucking game. 1493 01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:51.599 It is, absolutely, It's just really kind of reinvigorated my 1494 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.559 love of playing games with other people and taking out 1495 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:59.480 hordes of mass people, and I've been adoring it. We 1496 01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.880 played it until I don't know, like maybe like one 1497 01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:04.360 or two in the morning. As soon as I got 1498 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.079 back and everyone was like, oh, it's going for. 1499 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:06.800 Me to go to bed. 1500 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.280 And everyone was like, okay, I'm going to bed, and 1501 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.159 I kind of just hung out for a second as 1502 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.639 I was like getting ready to sign off, and uh, 1503 01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.920 Peter Brown was like, you want to play Rocket League? 1504 01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:21.000 And I was like, oh, you son of a bitch. 1505 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:22.800 And at like one thirty in. 1506 01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:26.360 The morning, Peter and I booted up rocket League and 1507 01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.079 I played Rocket League for the first time in I 1508 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:33.320 mean at least two years. And we played Rocket League 1509 01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.039 until four in the morning and I had I had 1510 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.199 the best fucking time you guys, and we just kept 1511 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.199 we just kept playing. At first, I was pretty shitty. 1512 01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:43.960 I forgot like you have to it's like riding a 1513 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.239 bike like I was like, I think I remember. But 1514 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.119 I couldn't fly, I couldn't defend very well. I wasn't 1515 01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:54.079 very good at like being goalie. And then after about 1516 01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.280 after about an hour and a half, I was fucking great. 1517 01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.920 I was killing it. We were winning all of our matches. 1518 01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.760 And then right around four am, I started getting really bad. 1519 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:04.840 That happens. 1520 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:06.639 I had hit my peak. 1521 01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.199 But what a fantastic experience to be able to play 1522 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.719 Hell Divers and Rocket League again, which I actually think 1523 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:14.320 are similar. 1524 01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:15.400 Right. 1525 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.800 They are all about teamwork and hanging out with your 1526 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.479 buds and then just taking out the other team if 1527 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.359 you can, but win or lose you were having a 1528 01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.199 good time. But they both allow for these moments of 1529 01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.359 absolute grandeur where like I am the reason that we won, 1530 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.880 I personally saved the day. It will make you feel 1531 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.199 like main character energy you are the hero in these games, 1532 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.520 and I think that's why they both are such excellent 1533 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.520 co op experiences. So playing them both in a night 1534 01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:44.920 was very meaningful to me, and I just had a blast. 1535 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.399 We like, we've started a schedule to start doing them 1536 01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.239 again weekly and it's just it's great. 1537 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:52.079 So I'm back in on both. I think they're both 1538 01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:53.399 great games, but Hell Divers too. 1539 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:53.720 For sure. 1540 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.199 I think they removed the zombie faction, but they just 1541 01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:57.880 brought it back, so I believe you can. 1542 01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:58.359 Play it right now. 1543 01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.479 Nice gonna go back at some point when my brother 1544 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.279 is overseas at the moment, but he was the one 1545 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:05.960 I was playing with most, so when he gets back 1546 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.479 and we're probably gonna dive in and no pun intended, and. 1547 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.279 Yeah, I'm still down to play it if you guys 1548 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:14.760 want to play it. 1549 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.439 It's just a it's it's it's gody for me, Like, 1550 01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:22.800 it's just such a tremendous accomplishment of like every game, 1551 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:26.319 I'm like, this is a movie and I might die, 1552 01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.640 and sometimes I do and sometimes I'm the greatest that 1553 01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:29.159 ever lived. 1554 01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:29.680 It's great. 1555 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.279 Dan, What's Castlevania? Dominus collection? 1556 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:41.039 Keep doing this every time you even do game, I'm like, 1557 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:41.960 what the fuck is this? 1558 01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:46.760 What are you talking to? Cassovnia Collection, Dominatrix Collection, Dominatrix, 1559 01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:48.399 What's Dominans. 1560 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:50.199 He's getting to it. 1561 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:51.800 It is the. 1562 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.840 It's the something. 1563 01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:02.199 Cavana Lore, Yeah, donov It's Portrait of Ruin and Order 1564 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.079 of Ecclesia. And the reason that this is so cool, 1565 01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:07.279 Like I love that the GBA Collection came out, you know, 1566 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:09.680 a year or two ago, because those are great games. 1567 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:11.880 But those are easy to play on a million different things. 1568 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.920 You know, they're GBA games. They're not complicated, whereas like 1569 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.760 DS three DS games. You can emulate those for sure, 1570 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.239 you know, WEU games. It just takes a little bit 1571 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:22.239 more because there's touch screen controls and you have to 1572 01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:24.159 do a lot of configuring, and it's just like it's 1573 01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.399 more of a pain in the ass. So to have 1574 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.439 these all on like a one screen standard consoles with 1575 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:32.840 like workarounds for you know, there's not a ton of 1576 01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.159 touch based stuff in these DS games, just enough to 1577 01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.760 make them a pain in the ass to emulate. So 1578 01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.199 they just really streamlined a lot of that stuff so 1579 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.960 you're not having to like draw all these seals, you know, 1580 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:44.640 when you need to break these blocks and stuff, there's 1581 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.159 just ways to do it without having a fuck around 1582 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:46.560 with too much. 1583 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.279 There is quality of life improvements. 1584 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.359 Totally, and you can do the rewind stuff, a lot 1585 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:52.880 of like emulation type stuff. You just want to make 1586 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.359 life easier for you. But then there's just stuff that 1587 01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:57.000 I didn't even think about where it's like, oh shit, 1588 01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:58.960 these are four by three games, so you have this 1589 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:02.039 screen real estate they're putting like the map and enemy 1590 01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.319 information and stuff over on the right. So like to 1591 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:06.600 play a castle a Metroid VNEA game where you are 1592 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.399 live seeing the map is so nice because you pit select. 1593 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:12.640 Yeah, that's a game changer. 1594 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.399 Actually, yeah, I didn't even think about that. It's like 1595 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:17.079 that's fucking great, And like if I go to attack 1596 01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:19.600 like oh, this acts Night or something. It'll tell me 1597 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.960 like all what it's weaknesses and strengths down there, so 1598 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:23.880 like no on the fly, like oh, let me switch 1599 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:25.000 to this Soul or whatever. 1600 01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:25.279 It's. 1601 01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:27.880 So it's just a really fantastic way to revisit these 1602 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:29.840 games that I've wanted to replay for a long time. 1603 01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:31.680 I just didn't want to fuck with the touch control stuff. 1604 01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:34.960 So yeah, I'm playing Down to Sorrow right now. That's 1605 01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:36.680 kind of the follow up to Ario Sorrow, which I 1606 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.960 think is the best GBA one. It's just been awesome 1607 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:41.479 and this is a great way to play it. So yeah, 1608 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.760 great Steam Deck, great on switch h those if you 1609 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.880 like Simpthony the Night, or just Metrodvenias in general, these 1610 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:49.520 are just some of the best ones and now you 1611 01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:50.560 can play them very easily. 1612 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:51.319 That's great. 1613 01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:53.359 Steam It's great. 1614 01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:53.600 Yeah. 1615 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.159 I'm looking at the Steam page and it came out 1616 01:11:56.199 --> 01:12:00.000 in August and it's got overwhelmingly positive reviews, so people 1617 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:02.439 like have obviously been playing it, but I'd never even 1618 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:04.640 heard of this new release, so that's very cool. 1619 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:06.520 Oh it's it's good as hell, and it's it's one 1620 01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:08.720 of those Castlevanians at least Donna Saura that I'm playing, 1621 01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:11.000 where it's like your weapons and stuff, or as you 1622 01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:14.279 kill enemies, you know, there's drop rates of like their soul. 1623 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:16.960 So if you kill a bat, there's a good chance 1624 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:18.720 you are going to get its soul, which you can 1625 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:20.680 map to a button and then some in a bat. 1626 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.760 Or if you get like a spear, the guy that 1627 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:25.680 throws spears, Skelton throws spears, you kill it, you get 1628 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.479 it sol, and I'll just map that soul to this 1629 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.279 button and then I'm throwing I'm spin a spear around. 1630 01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:33.520 So it's like Echoes of the Kingdom. 1631 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.199 More about like enemy abilities than it is like inanimate objects. 1632 01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:39.840 You know. 1633 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:44.039 Yeah, but you can echo an enemy well right. 1634 01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.800 There are some that are like familiars like the bat 1635 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:47.159 that will follow you around, but a lot of them 1636 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.039 are just like you will take that weapon or you know, 1637 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:50.800 that guy through an axe, so now I'm throwing an 1638 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:53.319 axe that type of stuff. And then there's passive souls 1639 01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.399 where it's like, oh, this just increases my strength or whatever. 1640 01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.680 So you can really kind of set your soul set 1641 01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:59.800 you can. You know, there's just a lot of fun 1642 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:01.960 if you can do instead of just I've got my 1643 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:03.800 sword and what I just. 1644 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:06.079 Yeah, it's just a battle of attrition. You can actually 1645 01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:09.079 like have some strategy to it and mimic it. I 1646 01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:10.600 also love the real estate. 1647 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:15.920 I remember when Zelda wind Waker came out on the 1648 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.199 Wii you and what a game changer it was to 1649 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:23.119 have a secondary screen for the map. This reminds me 1650 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:24.640 a lot of that, where it's just like this is 1651 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.279 the way I wish it always was, right, I just 1652 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:28.960 this is the definitive version. 1653 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:31.960 I will no longer think about the other version. This 1654 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:33.640 is the better way to play the game. Would you 1655 01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:35.680 say this is like the definitive version, like you wouldn't 1656 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:36.800 go back and play the original? 1657 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:39.680 Well, I mean it's they were great portable games, and like, 1658 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:41.560 you know, the DS did have those two screens, so 1659 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:43.560 you did have you know, that same like wind Waker 1660 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:44.920 type thing like oh, I've got the map in my 1661 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.760 items and stuff down here, and I've got the gameplay 1662 01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:48.760 screen up here, so like it did have that. But 1663 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:51.000 there's just something about like I love that sprite art 1664 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.039 and everything, and it's nice to be like a big 1665 01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.880 o led steam deck screen or a switch like instead 1666 01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:57.880 of just you know, the DS was great at the time, 1667 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.520 but like it looks and it looks. 1668 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:01.279 Better on a big screen. 1669 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:02.680 Did they update the graphics? 1670 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:04.720 No, no, no, I'm just saying it's just like the 1671 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.479 art is really great and I'd like to see it 1672 01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:08.720 on a backlit olid you know, Steam deck screen, then 1673 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:09.520 a little DS. 1674 01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:09.920 Screen you know. 1675 01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:11.840 Yeah, okay, yeah, bigger. 1676 01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.359 Yep, killer killer games great? Yeah? 1677 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:17.520 What about Duck Detective? 1678 01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:18.479 Yeah? 1679 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:18.960 What is this? 1680 01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:21.319 I started that? Mary? Was you that told me about this? 1681 01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:21.960 I did? 1682 01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.800 I played that on an earlier episode and talked about it. 1683 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:28.680 It's a lot like, uh, what's that other game? Dork's 1684 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:29.600 like Golden Idol. 1685 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:31.399 It's like you did to talk about this, I remember now. 1686 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.560 My My joke was like Golden Idol is like this 1687 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.039 person has been murdered and you're like solving it, and 1688 01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:36.840 Duck Detective is like. 1689 01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:39.840 Where's my salami? Somebody's been stealing the salami. 1690 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.119 So you're solving someone who can celebrate this receptionist birthday 1691 01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:44.600 and so she yeah, this draft. 1692 01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:46.239 Yeah, I'm a couple. 1693 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.279 Like I beat Rise the Golden Idol and I really 1694 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:52.520 enjoyed it, and I just like that style of gameplay. 1695 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:56.239 It's like that for dummies, little easier. 1696 01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.119 Because the question is by the end of Rise, the 1697 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.520 Golden Nidol is like, oh man, that's so blanks. I 1698 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.800 gotta figure out. And so the idea of just like, oh, 1699 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:05.880 I'm a little duck detective, it's like divorced duck walking 1700 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:07.359 around trying to figure out why a giraffe. 1701 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:13.199 Duck Detective was a little too long. I think it 1702 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:18.279 should have been Dutective. I think they fucked up. I know, 1703 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:21.439 I know, but they didn't call it duck Detective. They 1704 01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:25.119 call it duck Detective, Divorce duck Detective. 1705 01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.399 It's just it's cute, it's got good voice acting and stuff, 1706 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.159 and it is just like you're right, it is like 1707 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.880 Golden Idle Junior, you know, with a totally different type 1708 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.159 of tone. And yeah, I just I was ready for 1709 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.159 more of that style of game. And it's a simple one, 1710 01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:41.720 but I've really been enjoying it. They have like a 1711 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:46.239 noir sound track. Yeah, it's very kind of noir. It's 1712 01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:47.880 like the whole thing is just like this gruff you know, 1713 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.600 like Duck that he's broke, you know, you can't afford 1714 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:54.119 rant and stuff, and he's doing these kind of shady 1715 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.119 jobs and it's it's a goofy story, but I like it. 1716 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:04.399 It looks like it's charming characters, stickers, yeah, yeah, there, yeah, And. 1717 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:06.840 The story is silly, but it is engaging. 1718 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:08.800 I don't know how to describe it, like, sure the 1719 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.640 stakes are low, but you are I was interested to 1720 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.119 figure out who was the bandit. I wanted to know, 1721 01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:19.880 and it's very similar mechanically, where it's like Blank was 1722 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.279 the blank stealer and he used blank to get to 1723 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.600 the blank, and so you still have to figure it out. 1724 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.359 It's finding words in the scene and then putting them 1725 01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.279 in the right order. I still got actually stuck a 1726 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.119 couple times towards the end of Duck Detective, which is 1727 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.920 sad because I was just saying it's like the child 1728 01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.920 version of Golden Idol. But I still ended up getting 1729 01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:41.279 kind of stuck on Duck Detective at some point and 1730 01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:41.680 was like, I. 1731 01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.920 Don't know, I don't care. But it's the same problem 1732 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.159 I have with Golden Idol, which is I've solved it. 1733 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.359 I know what it's saying. I just couldn't put the 1734 01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:52.079 words in the right fucking order. 1735 01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.239 It's like, at some point it's semantics, and I get 1736 01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:57.800 really frustrated with games that are essentially like oh well, 1737 01:16:58.079 --> 01:16:59.399 it's not a purple hoodie. 1738 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:02.000 It was great. It's like, bitch, he's dead, Like, yeah, 1739 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:04.039 can we just say I solved the crime? 1740 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.000 Yep, yep. Yeah. Yeah. It's a frustrating. 1741 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:10.560 Yes, Yeah, it's annoying when you know you understand the 1742 01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:12.640 entire situation, but the game is just kind of like, no, 1743 01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:14.720 but you need to play by our rules and get 1744 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:18.399 this exactly correct. That gets a bit frustrating. Yeah, are 1745 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.600 you liking Silent Hill too or you were liking Silent 1746 01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:23.880 Hill too? Fair amount, but it was characters that were 1747 01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:28.199 annoying you. Mary that so annoying she was she. 1748 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:28.840 Took a nap. 1749 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.359 I have a really short update because I've been playing 1750 01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:33.560 this once a week, so I you know, I'm still 1751 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:37.199 playing it. She has been taking a nap for the 1752 01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:39.800 last three hours, which is great, so I haven't had 1753 01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:43.800 to deal with her. I got to a very wonderful 1754 01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:45.960 part in the original Silent Hill too, where you go 1755 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:50.720 down this essentially like terrifyingly long staircase, and I got 1756 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.399 to that part in the new one. So anyone who's 1757 01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:54.560 played Silent Hill two or remembers, there's just kind of 1758 01:17:54.600 --> 01:18:01.760 this iconically long staircase that is obvious inspired by a 1759 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:03.800 lot of devs to say like, hey, you're fucking going 1760 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:05.680 down to hell, like that is what's happening here. You 1761 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.880 are going down town and this will be the thing 1762 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.560 that puts you into hell. And it's just ungodly long. 1763 01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.439 The remake is it puts a lot of love into 1764 01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:17.560 that scene to make sure you still feel like you 1765 01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:20.920 understand what's happening, which is you are in the longest 1766 01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:23.960 staircase and it is about to get fucked and it 1767 01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:27.479 is ungodly frightening. The further I've gotten in it, the 1768 01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:31.319 more I've personally felt that Silent Hill Too should have 1769 01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.119 won the Game of the Year for audio design. I 1770 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.119 think it is one of the best designed audio games 1771 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.439 of recent years. And I just think a lot of 1772 01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:45.680 times horror games do not get their due for winning 1773 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.680 awards because they're kind of written off, like yah, it's 1774 01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.920 a remake. It's like a beloved horror movie, but like whatever, 1775 01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.399 this is unbelievable what they were able to accomplish with 1776 01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:58.680 the audio. Even the backing tracks have breathing in them, 1777 01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:01.840 so you always feel like someone could be in the room. 1778 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:02.840 Uh. 1779 01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:07.319 It is just a constant up like fear even as 1780 01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:09.439 you're like solving a puzzle, which means you should be 1781 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:13.239 good for a little bit, they are putting like and 1782 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.880 weird noises throughout the entire track, going back and forth 1783 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.640 underneath tunnels and stuff like that. You never feel safe 1784 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:24.119 in this game. It is just it is a triumph 1785 01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:26.680 of how how frightening it will make you feel. I'm 1786 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:28.039 in the jail right now, and it is. 1787 01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:31.840 Oh, what a horrible, horrible area to put put a 1788 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:32.279 player in. 1789 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:34.760 I think it's the scariest game of the year, and 1790 01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:39.279 so an absolute triumph of scaring the shit out of me. 1791 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.479 And I fully recommended. 1792 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:44.840 I was just gonna say I forgot what one audio, 1793 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:45.680 but it was hell made. 1794 01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.640 It was yeah, And I'm not saying like that didn't 1795 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:51.720 deserve it. I didn't really hear that game too much. 1796 01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.680 I'm just saying, show on this game every episode, and 1797 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:55.560 my god, stop kicking it while it's done. 1798 01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:56.239 Who cares. 1799 01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.680 I just think, like horror games don't often get their 1800 01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:02.560 do That's what I think I'm ultimately saying is like 1801 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:03.920 a lot of times I feel the same way with 1802 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.279 Resident Evil is like it usually gets nominated, but it 1803 01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.920 does not win because like they're like sure you deserve 1804 01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:11.000 a nomination, like it's such a good game, but we're 1805 01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.439 obviously going to give it to this, uh you know, 1806 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.439 RPG shooter with horny characters, and it's like, come on, 1807 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:22.000 like these horror games are there, all the rest of them? 1808 01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:24.640 Okay, yeah, just the a Malcolm of all of them. 1809 01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:29.600 Uh yeah, that's I've just been playing Warhammer and metaphor 1810 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:30.680 long games. 1811 01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.640 Those are long games. Yeah, they take you forever. I've 1812 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.439 been playing Silent Hill for like six weeks now. 1813 01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:38.720 Every time every time we do our game list, I'm 1814 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:40.640 always like, I put Silent Hill on there because I'm 1815 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:41.279 still playing it. 1816 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:44.560 But I have to be getting any Caravella update. Yeah, 1817 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:46.760 a lot of those where he was you know, journal 1818 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:51.359 entry updates from his long form games. Yeah, all right, 1819 01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:56.000 you wanted you to emails, okay, as usually you can 1820 01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:59.319 ride into Firescape past at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns, 1821 01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:03.039 stuff you want us to read on potentially the next episode. 1822 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:06.800 We got a bunch since last episode, at which point 1823 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.079 we said send him in to get us through into 1824 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.920 the next few episodes. And I think we have enough 1825 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.039 now to lost us all of twenty twenty five. But 1826 01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:20.279 that's great. Yeah, people, people got a lot in kick 1827 01:21:20.359 --> 01:21:23.760 things off with this one from Joseph Dan. Do you 1828 01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:24.760 want to read this first one? 1829 01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:25.399 Yes? 1830 01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:28.399 What things in real life do you think are most 1831 01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:32.039 like Charmander? I can't see there's a thing, okay, charme 1832 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.600 Leon and Charizard. I can think of a duck, a goose, 1833 01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.800 and a swan, or maybe Dave Franco, James Franco and 1834 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.840 Jared Leto. It doesn't have to just be living things though. 1835 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.359 I'm interested in all forms of three stage evolution. So wait, 1836 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:49.039 so I don't even know anything about It's just like 1837 01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:52.159 an evolution. Charland is the most basic and then Charmila 1838 01:21:52.239 --> 01:21:52.680 is the middle one. 1839 01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:55.000 So like so an upgrade and then second upgrade. 1840 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:57.439 I think an appropriate one for this is do candy bars, 1841 01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:00.359 because we've argued about this before. Like to me, Armander 1842 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.600 would be three musketeers. All it is, it's just new Gat, 1843 01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:04.399 and then after that would. 1844 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:04.760 Be milky Way. 1845 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:05.560 You got. 1846 01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:11.920 What is it new gat? I got a new gap. 1847 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:16.399 It would be three musketeers, and then Charmeleon would be 1848 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:18.159 is it milky Way just adds the caramel? 1849 01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:19.319 Yes? 1850 01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:23.720 And then it would be third one. Okay, it gets it? 1851 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:26.800 Gets good, aren't good. 1852 01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:31.520 They're good, They're like, okay, fire escape, who's Charmander? It 1853 01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:32.760 depends on the criteria. 1854 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.520 I take offense that Joseph said that Jared Letto was 1855 01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:42.359 the final emotion because is a little but good? 1856 01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.600 Doesn't that kind of suck to like it? So that. 1857 01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:49.760 It doesn't have to be good, It doesn't have to 1858 01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:53.279 be improving it like what is the most what is 1859 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:57.119 the most of the series, the most X of this series? 1860 01:22:57.159 --> 01:22:59.119 And if it's douchebag, then Jared Letto would definitely be 1861 01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:01.279 chars are right right, right right? 1862 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:05.000 Yeah, Yeah, that's true. It's like the final evolution of 1863 01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:06.279 being a villain. 1864 01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:16.039 Yeah, the guy could see, like, yeah, for us three, 1865 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.920 you're the final form. I didn't say. I didn't say 1866 01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:23.399 that just such I put together. 1867 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.319 We're too different to be evolutions of each other. Yeah, 1868 01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:28.720 but like it's more fun if we did it anyway, 1869 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.039 I like, and if we're. 1870 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:37.159 Going from like you know, but the most basic it 1871 01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:42.680 was evolution, it would be me Dan, Mike, what I'm 1872 01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:44.239 not the charis of sickos? 1873 01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:47.239 You are a what what makes me a sicko? 1874 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:49.479 All of the horny jokes, the. 1875 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.760 Dans one who pooped his pants, the other days, isn't horny? 1876 01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:55.199 That's true horny. 1877 01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.680 Oh yeah, I love that you connected those though. 1878 01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.319 He's the one who poops his pants all the time. 1879 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.439 If anyone should be horniest, it's dand because he's always 1880 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:02.840 as hell. 1881 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:05.840 Did you guys have pants every time you get horny? 1882 01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:08.680 I rest my case your That's why I can't go 1883 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:10.760 to strip clubs that just ship my pants right away, 1884 01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.039 turn and leave. Yep, that's where I stink up the joint. 1885 01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:19.800 Yeah, Like what would be I know? 1886 01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:24.960 Everyone advance, I'm ready, I know, but I like it 1887 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:26.760 more when you don't, because then we stumble on it 1888 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:27.880 that I could switch. 1889 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.640 My head with a bird and then fly. This is 1890 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.239 what happens when we don't read these in advance, I know. 1891 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:34.800 And that's why that's where you get the best you 1892 01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:38.159 get the best material from. I'm trying to think, like, 1893 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:41.319 what would what would the the evolution, the three stage 1894 01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:51.079 evolution be for fast food and the criteria the final one? 1895 01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:51.439 I think? 1896 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:54.760 And so I think, what's like a couple of shittier McDonald's, 1897 01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:58.359 like curls. I don't really have a lot of curls Arby's. 1898 01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.359 Arby's is good, though they were all kind of thing. 1899 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:02.399 No, no, no, I got one. 1900 01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:03.359 I got when I got on, I got one. Do 1901 01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:05.039 do do the chicken spots? 1902 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:09.359 Do Popeyes? Chick fil A and KFC? Uh, it's got 1903 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.760 to be Charie Ard right well whatever the smallest one 1904 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:15.039 is would be KFC, which I still love it. Think 1905 01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:16.479 that would be pop and then Chick fil A and 1906 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:22.640 then Popeyes? Yeah yeah, ultimate, Yeah, it checks out. What 1907 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:26.159 about SODA's? Oh, it's like r C Cola would be 1908 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.439 the first one, and then Pepsi and then coke. 1909 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:35.720 Now the creative juice? Do do cheesy pasta dishes? 1910 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:43.279 I refuse. He's a man of principles. Yeah, yam, the 1911 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:44.520 final farm. 1912 01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:49.520 I've if we were doing the the Italian dishes at 1913 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:52.720 that place we went, I think that what was it 1914 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:56.760 the pumpkin the dual Tortellini's that would have been chars 1915 01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:58.840 Ard was dual. 1916 01:25:58.640 --> 01:25:59.960 Ravioli's the dope. 1917 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:04.479 Yeah yeah, that was really good for for those who 1918 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.279 are wondering what the fuck I'm talking about, because it's 1919 01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.399 has I did not contextualize it whatsoever. We went to 1920 01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:13.359 a place that Dan recommended, and there was this one 1921 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:18.239 dish that wasa yeah two like vertical Raviolis that are 1922 01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.399 still connected to each other. And then in one it 1923 01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:22.640 was like a pumpkin filling and the other was like 1924 01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:23.600 a cream cheese. 1925 01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:29.960 But together they combined, which is exactly what this is 1926 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.560 meant to make us think about. I would also say 1927 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:35.840 dan is not strong enough that mac and cheese maybe 1928 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:40.199 like blue Box is probably like the original form. Yeah. 1929 01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.039 I think when you get to like. 1930 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:47.880 A Velveta level, that's probably second form, where it's like, okay, 1931 01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:52.119 we've added a cream, it's not powder anymore. There's actual 1932 01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:57.960 cheese in this. And then the final form I've got 1933 01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:03.840 one sorry, might be uh okay. When you go to 1934 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:08.560 a festival and they have mac and cheese balls fried on. 1935 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.439 A stick, that's pretty good. 1936 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.399 It's like all of the cheesy goodness it's on a 1937 01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:19.399 stick and it's been depried. Yeah, they've they've combined so 1938 01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:22.720 many different forms of food that are for people who 1939 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:26.760 want to hurt themselves and they put it in an easy, convenient, 1940 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:28.279 walkable form. 1941 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.520 For Nebiolo would definitely be longa nebiolo, and then barbaresco, 1942 01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:34.199 then barolo. 1943 01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:36.960 That's a that's an easy one. Johnny Walker is an 1944 01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:39.319 easy one. You go from like red to black, the. 1945 01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:44.960 Blue Snave would be just normal Russo the de Monto Plciano, 1946 01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.600 and then it would be ve No Russia and Multipolciano 1947 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:51.920 is not sand As, I'm embarrassed, just regular, and then 1948 01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:55.079 it would be Kianti and that would be Brunello or 1949 01:27:55.119 --> 01:27:56.439 maybe Vino Nobile. 1950 01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:58.119 Grown in there. 1951 01:27:58.239 --> 01:27:59.640 Damn, you need to go to the bathroom. 1952 01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.119 Oh sorry, I was trying to meet my mic conder. 1953 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.560 The morning you've had, I don't think you should be, 1954 01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:07.479 uh a crying wolf right now? 1955 01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:16.479 Yeah, there, there's got to be like, uh, I don't 1956 01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:18.479 want to do wrestlers because that wouldn't make any sense 1957 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:18.720 to me. 1958 01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:20.479 Yeah, there's definitely one of that. 1959 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:26.560 Yeah, like a you know, maybe like Stealth series where like, 1960 01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:28.720 you know, the ultimate would be Middle Year, the middle One. 1961 01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:33.840 What about yours your favorite? Uh double O seven. 1962 01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:39.640 Mmm? Uh scenes with Zenya on the top of them? 1963 01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:44.359 Okay, son scene is the ultimate evolution? Oh really, I 1964 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:46.279 would go. I would go the crush. 1965 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.000 I guess the basic one is when she just kills 1966 01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:49.399 that dude. 1967 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:50.720 Yeah, crushes the. 1968 01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:55.520 First one, and then maybe the hell gun orgasm and 1969 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.439 then yeah or guns. 1970 01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:05.159 Yeah, yeah, I think so they all work. I mean, yeah, 1971 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:07.840 I be. I would love to. I think she would. 1972 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:10.960 Come on, what about the bedazzled lady? 1973 01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:21.239 I mean gimmicks there's there's Yeah, she's got the. 1974 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:31.199 Uh fidazzle outfits. Oh, the devil thing, when she got 1975 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:33.840 the desk that's oh yeah, and sitting on the car 1976 01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:38.640 and then uh yeah, wait because he has more of 1977 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:40.159 the gangs. She's just a devil all the time. 1978 01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:43.000 Wait. No, she's like a teacher here. Oh yeah, you got. 1979 01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:47.439 Okay, the snake one yep, yeah, yep, oh I have one. 1980 01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.079 We should we should put Fomky Johnsen and Elizabeth Hurley 1981 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:51.399 in like in a in a ring. 1982 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:52.520 Don't you dare? 1983 01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:54.279 What? 1984 01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:56.920 What what do you mean? Don't I dare? 1985 01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:00.520 Can't pick a winner there, I'm not saying I I'd 1986 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.359 say they would decide who wins. They'll fight, no fight, 1987 01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:08.399 Oh come on, don't ruin this for me. 1988 01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.399 Keep say I'm telling you he's the final evolution of Sika. 1989 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:15.840 I absolutely am. They will come back if we come 1990 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:16.680 up with any other good ones. 1991 01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:18.439 There's got to be. There's probably some good ones, but 1992 01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:19.840 we have got to be good ones. We have a 1993 01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:21.760 couple of other questions. Keep that back of mine while 1994 01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:24.560 we do these next questions. I'm gonna do this one. Hey, Fire, 1995 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.159 people love the podcast, haven't missed an episode in three years, 1996 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:28.760 and you are a light in a dark, dark world. 1997 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:30.319 I'm a man who likes to drink. 1998 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:32.680 I turned twenty one a few years ago and don't 1999 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:34.680 feel embarrassed to order any drink I see in the menu. 2000 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:37.600 Alcohol is alcohol. It gets the job done. Some people, though, 2001 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:41.279 are overly critical about drink choice, for example, saying a 2002 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:43.640 type of whiskey or bourbon isn't a good choice, making 2003 01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.159 fun of choosing white wines over red wines, calling different 2004 01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:47.960 mixed drinks more masculin than others, and it makes no 2005 01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.800 sense to me whatsoever. Mike is the CEO of wine, 2006 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:53.399 Mary is the Mike Tyson of verbal arguments, and Dan 2007 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.159 is the first to point out aromatic notes in a 2008 01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:58.159 variety of craft beers. My question for you three experts 2009 01:30:58.199 --> 01:30:59.960 is what rebuttals do you have for people that share 2010 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:02.359 drink choices? And what's an interesting drink I can order 2011 01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:04.720 so they think I'm better than them. I've always hated 2012 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.359 that ship. I remember the first time I went to 2013 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:08.119 a bar. I was like, oh, zema sounds good, and 2014 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:10.600 of course it's like, oh he's gay, it's a girl 2015 01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:12.720 you drink or whatever like that. You dumbest hill drink 2016 01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:15.399 whatever you want to drink. I think you're giving yourself 2017 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:17.880 too much credit. I think you shame people for getting 2018 01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:19.760 stuff that's considered too high brow and your. 2019 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.760 Sure okay, so I yeah, just. 2020 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.479 Immediately, No, no, not at all. You're not as bad 2021 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:27.760 as him. 2022 01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:31.159 There was definitely a time I was like that in 2023 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:32.239 every way with my dad. 2024 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:37.720 Don't was the final form of shaming for what they drink. 2025 01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:43.279 If Paul is the charizard of like lowbrow whoa and Dan, 2026 01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.119 let's say Dan, you would be charmander. What's who's the 2027 01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:47.359 charmion between you two? 2028 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:48.439 A cigarette? 2029 01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:49.000 Uh? 2030 01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:54.640 Hank Hill, I don't know. Is a cigarette with eyes? 2031 01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:01.399 That's just it's just a cigarette judging you with eyes. 2032 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:04.600 And you're better about this and like to be to 2033 01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:08.319 be clear, I would rather someone be scoff at highbrow 2034 01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:10.000 stuff than like, think something. 2035 01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:13.479 Better than something like that ship Mike and I give 2036 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:16.079 backlership with the craft beer stuff. Well, no, there's a 2037 01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:18.439 difference there because Mike, you will have a butt light 2038 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:20.520 with me. I've done that a million times. And you 2039 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.880 don't look down your nose at all is a billion percent. 2040 01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:26.199 Like, might as well drink a can of piss. You 2041 01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:28.000 should just drink some piss because that's what you're drinking. 2042 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:28.880 But like like. 2043 01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:34.640 When you were first really getting into hard Seltzers like 2044 01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:36.760 four years ago or whatever, and we were at his house, 2045 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.319 I think he was making fun of you for it. 2046 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:42.479 Like a white claw. He'sis you can of piss? Sure? Yeah? 2047 01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:45.800 Backlar is a hipster. Yeah, he's totally that crap beer guy, 2048 01:32:46.039 --> 01:32:48.920 like for real. Yeah, so he is the look down 2049 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:50.800 on people. Get Mike, as much as we give you, 2050 01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:52.720 you're not, You've never. 2051 01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:54.920 I'm dude, I'm not afraid to dive into the mud and. 2052 01:32:55.039 --> 01:32:58.640 Frog around shotgun a beard. Yeah yeah, it's you're cool though. 2053 01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:01.600 I will all the rest of us. 2054 01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:05.359 Oh yeah, I fucking love it. I'll dumpster dive. I 2055 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:07.560 literally ran into a bunch of trash cans and dove 2056 01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:09.319 into them. But the first time Dan hung out in 2057 01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:12.960 my neighborhood twenty nineteen here, yeah, I know you're Yeah. 2058 01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:16.800 We I In terms of like things that people do 2059 01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:18.319 to wine that a lot of people scoff at, Like 2060 01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:19.800 if you want to put ice in your white wine 2061 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.119 or rose fucking who cares if you and if that 2062 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:23.359 makes you enjoy it more. 2063 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.880 Than that example. For me, that's a good example of that. 2064 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.119 As I do, I should, I should not, I should 2065 01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.239 just want people to enjoy it more and maybe buy 2066 01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:33.319 more of it and drink it however they want. And 2067 01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:35.880 if you want to have red wine with fish, it 2068 01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:38.600 could probably be better if you had white wine fish, 2069 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:40.840 but whatever, fuck it, it's you're ordering it. 2070 01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:43.680 I think I went to college in the early two thousands, 2071 01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:45.239 and back then it was just you had to think 2072 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:47.479 about every drink because like everybody was so quick to 2073 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:49.880 be like that drink, you ordering that drink means you 2074 01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:56.159 are gay or a girl like that was just absolutely. 2075 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:58.880 Homophobic as hell, and someday you'll be laughed out of 2076 01:33:58.960 --> 01:33:59.479 a tavern. 2077 01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:00.399 Yeah worse. 2078 01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:02.000 And like I would want to get like, oh this 2079 01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:03.720 thing actually, like I like the taste of this thing 2080 01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:07.199 or this like green apple shot or whatever. Everyone's gonna 2081 01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:09.319 call me gay, so like and so like that was 2082 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.159 a great thing. When you realize you get old enough, 2083 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:15.239 me gay problem and it's like drink the thing that 2084 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:15.800 tastes good. 2085 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:19.199 You know, I'm gonna swirl my wine, I'm gonna stick 2086 01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:21.319 I'm gonna and I'm gonna. 2087 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:23.920 Get flexus to order the drink that you like and 2088 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:25.119 just be like that. 2089 01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:30.359 Then fine, I'm I'm super gay, I'm flaming and and 2090 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:32.640 I'm happier and I'm freer than you, dude. 2091 01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:35.680 Honestly, the patriarchy is like the biggest chains in the world. 2092 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:40.119 I couldn't imagine not ordering what I want because someone 2093 01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:44.159 would call me gay. That is so sad, not just 2094 01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.640 for the person who's ordering that's afraid, but just for 2095 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:50.079 men in general, that you can't be yourself because someone 2096 01:34:50.199 --> 01:34:52.119 is going to say that you're gay and that and 2097 01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:53.920 that is like not good. 2098 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:54.840 It's like who cares? 2099 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:58.840 And the bar it is just was so low too, 2100 01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:01.159 Like if you've got a March teeny, which I was 2101 01:35:01.199 --> 01:35:02.960 not ordering Martine when I was young, but like now, 2102 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.319 I know them to be a very strong, maybe in 2103 01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.840 some ways masculine drink, but they would have made fun 2104 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:10.079 of me so much if I got a Martine. 2105 01:35:10.119 --> 01:35:12.239 I heard a Martini near my dad today. 2106 01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:12.960 He was like, you. 2107 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:16.479 Take a Martine, Just drink a normal beer like a 2108 01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:16.920 real guy. 2109 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:20.920 Like a real guy I think is like ultimate toxic 2110 01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:26.479 masculinity energy. Yeah, that's that's the final form as your 2111 01:35:26.840 --> 01:35:32.279 toxic masculinity is so sad. Yeah, so it says like 2112 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.840 what drink can you order? Some people think I was thinking, 2113 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:38.600 like Mike, you were getting really good examples with with 2114 01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:40.560 wine right with where you could put ice in it, 2115 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.359 and it's like who cares for uh. 2116 01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:44.359 Mixed drinks. 2117 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.800 I think it was always having a decent liquor, maybe 2118 01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:51.840 like jamison, but then adding something to it that would 2119 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:55.079 take away how that liquor tastes. And so like a 2120 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.199 jamison and coke was something that people would make fun 2121 01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:00.319 of me for because it's like, well, and you're not 2122 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:02.399 tasting the jamison, you're tasting like a. 2123 01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:06.359 Very sugary coke or ginger ale or whatever it is. 2124 01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:09.279 The mixer with a nice liquor is something that I 2125 01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:11.479 got shipped for when I was like in my early 2126 01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.159 twenties because I wanted something sweeter. 2127 01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:14.079 Yeah. 2128 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.159 I mean to answer the question, if there's something you 2129 01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:18.079 could if you were curious, what you could order to 2130 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:20.399 make people think you're better than them. Martinis are very 2131 01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:22.159 in style right now. If you want to go a 2132 01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:24.680 step further, order at Gibson. If the bar even has 2133 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.359 cocktail onions, it's a martini but with a cocktail onion instead. 2134 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:32.159 I fucking love them, but they're definitely a like they're 2135 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:34.760 past their prime for sure, Like they were a big 2136 01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:38.159 like post prohibition era drink or you know what I've 2137 01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:40.199 been drinking lately every once in a while. 2138 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:40.640 As a vukure. 2139 01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:41.960 It's what. 2140 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.239 It's awesome. It's apparently used to be way more common. 2141 01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:51.279 It's whiskey, brandy, and I'm forgetting maybe some bitters. I 2142 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:52.840 forget the third one is, but it's kind of like 2143 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:57.880 a French old fashion, but it like, despite the fact 2144 01:36:57.920 --> 01:36:59.880 that it's French. I think it actually started as a 2145 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.960 pretty like speak easy underground drink. 2146 01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:05.800 Actually good, probably something that you have to tell the 2147 01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:07.640 bartender how to make it because. 2148 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:08.119 It's so unique. 2149 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:10.520 I really wanted to Alaska, and Alaska would do the trick. 2150 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:12.279 A lot of bartenders do not know what that is. 2151 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:13.239 Alaska. 2152 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.840 It's just our team, but with sharkshroofs instead of Vermouth 2153 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:21.079 and Chartsrus is in short supply and kind of expensive 2154 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.199 right now in America, so that might make you look 2155 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.199 like informed. And then when they don't know what your Alaska, 2156 01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:27.640 whether in Alaska is, you can make fun of the 2157 01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:28.479 people they made fun of you. 2158 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.399 I've been surprised because, like, as I've gotten into cocktail 2159 01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:32.560 making and stuff like that, Like one of the mo 2160 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:35.399 most common ingredients I've seen is orghot, which is that 2161 01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:39.399 like almost syrup and like to like big mellows drink, 2162 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:41.319 And I'll ask, oh, yea, do you guys have orgot here? 2163 01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:43.399 And like some people working at liquor stores won't know 2164 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:44.800 what it is. I'm like, is this sorry? 2165 01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:46.479 I can't hear you with that dick in your mouth? 2166 01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:48.159 Can you please say that again? 2167 01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:53.199 Yeah? Yeah, it's well, it goes by. I think fewer people. 2168 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:55.479 Some people would not even recognize it as or shot. 2169 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:57.439 They would just be like, oh, you want like decerna, yeah, 2170 01:37:57.479 --> 01:37:59.920 we have tons of that. Or it's a bit different, right, 2171 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:02.920 they are a type of It's not like it's. 2172 01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:04.319 A type of shot. But if you can buy a. 2173 01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:06.239 Shot that like there's just the almonds syrup that doesn't 2174 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.680 have the like like a liquor content in it, right, 2175 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.439 because I buy that off Amazon. 2176 01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:12.680 You can't just buy like liquor off Amazon. 2177 01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:15.560 Uh, No, or shot usually has alcohol if you want 2178 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.560 to get like almonds syrup. I don't think it's technically until. 2179 01:38:18.319 --> 01:38:21.520 It is alcohol is just such a low percentage that 2180 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:22.159 you can buy it. 2181 01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:23.880 You might, I mean, I might be wrong. I didn't 2182 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.800 think it's or shot unless it actually was a liqueur 2183 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.199 as well almond syrup. 2184 01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:30.640 Well then all this stuff I've been using this Tranni almond. 2185 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.239 Uh yeah, I don't do the same thing flavor wise, 2186 01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:36.159 but I yeah, I don't know. I'm I completely could 2187 01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:37.720 be wrong. I just didn't think it was shot. If 2188 01:38:37.720 --> 01:38:40.279 it's zero alcohol, yeah's the stuff I buying an Amazon 2189 01:38:40.439 --> 01:38:43.199 is just yeah, almond, orgot syrup, turani no alcohol. 2190 01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:45.760 Weird, but like shot more in my life, it's a 2191 01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:47.760 fun word and it is to say orgy it. And 2192 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:49.720 then I heard someone say it correctly. I'm like, oh, man, 2193 01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:52.319 I think the low brow one here you corrected me, Mike, Yeah, 2194 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:53.880 I don't think I corrected you. 2195 01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:54.640 I don't think I. 2196 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:58.239 Guess it goes to or over here. 2197 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:02.199 Yeah, heard you. You just said it correctly. 2198 01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:04.359 And I was like, okay, I'm gonna say I for 2199 01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:06.319 all the you know, the times I play up the 2200 01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:08.960 highbrow stuff, I make it a point to never just 2201 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.239 outright correct someone because I hate that guy. 2202 01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:13.520 I will a thousand percent back you on that. Like 2203 01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:15.199 you're actually really good about that. 2204 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:15.520 Yeah. 2205 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:18.720 Yeah, And everyone who said that it was Balatroe can 2206 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:20.079 suck my dick. 2207 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:21.520 I don't care. 2208 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.439 First of all, I'm not doing that. Second of all, 2209 01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:26.960 shut up, I don't care. I'm not dealing with you 2210 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:27.439 right now. 2211 01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:29.439 Wait is that how it's supposed to be said? 2212 01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:30.159 I don't care. 2213 01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:31.119 No one does it. 2214 01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:34.840 I refuse to answer the question. 2215 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:37.079 I didn't. 2216 01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:39.000 I mean, I know it's Italian technically, I didn't know 2217 01:39:39.039 --> 01:39:41.479 if like there's a I mean, I don't speak Italian. 2218 01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:43.479 So associated with it. 2219 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.640 I'm learning a watra. 2220 01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:50.199 Rolls off the tongue, off the tongue. Yeah, I think 2221 01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:51.159 about Yeah. 2222 01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.840 My dad when he ordered drinks, he told me one 2223 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:56.720 of his favorite drinks when he was in college was 2224 01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:59.239 a Harvey Wallbanger, which I love that name. 2225 01:39:59.279 --> 01:39:59.920 I think it's fun. 2226 01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:02.960 Oh yeah, it's good and it's a very classic drink. 2227 01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:06.279 It's vodka orange juice, but it has a little bit 2228 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:08.359 of Galliano in it, which is kind of that like 2229 01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:09.199 black liquorice. 2230 01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:12.159 She tastes. So it's not for everybody, ya. 2231 01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:14.079 It gives you a little bit of a twist on 2232 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.039 the classic uh screwdriver. 2233 01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:18.319 Screwdriver? Thank you? 2234 01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:22.680 And a lot of bartenders will be like, Harvey Wallbanger, 2235 01:40:22.720 --> 01:40:24.720 it sounds so familiar, but they won't know. But I 2236 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:26.880 think it's a flex to go into a bar and 2237 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.399 say I want a Harvey Wallbanger, because when the bartender knows, 2238 01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:32.840 they've obviously they're obviously a drinker and has been in 2239 01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:34.039 the game for a long time. 2240 01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:36.359 Because it's an old school drink. I think it's a 2241 01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:37.359 classy looking drink. 2242 01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:39.800 But let's be real here, it's just vodka orange juice, 2243 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:41.000 which gives you that sweetness. 2244 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:41.920 It's totally fair. 2245 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.880 I think that you'd be hard pressed for someone to 2246 01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:47.680 make fun of you for ordering a Harvey Wallbanger. 2247 01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:48.760 Also, it sounds. 2248 01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:51.279 Cool, yeah, mm hmm, it's uh. 2249 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:53.880 I also will say two other things that's reminded me of. 2250 01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:57.319 A bartender at a pretty prestigious cocktail bar in New 2251 01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:02.640 York said that they include photos of what the drink 2252 01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:04.880 is going to look like in the glass, because every 2253 01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:08.880 once in a while, a like guy who is maybe 2254 01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:11.439 they're on his first date or something kind of complain 2255 01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:13.319 when you bring it to it. Bring it to him 2256 01:41:13.359 --> 01:41:17.199 in like a feminine glass, Yeah, like a long stem 2257 01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:19.279 glass with like some flowers in it and stuff. 2258 01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:20.680 So I was like, they hear that much. 2259 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:23.039 It's like, dude, they'll send it back and ask you 2260 01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:24.479 to put it in a different drinks or like in 2261 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:25.640 a tumblr. 2262 01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:27.600 Glass or I think that happens all the time. 2263 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.159 And this is like a this is a like well 2264 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:33.199 known like world, like prestigious cocktail bart and even they 2265 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:33.920 have to deal. 2266 01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:38.960 With, like the patriarchy run so deep in our society 2267 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:42.359 you can see it fucking everywhere. The idea that the 2268 01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:46.640 vessel in which your drink comes in could maybe make 2269 01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:47.880 you gay is. 2270 01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:49.720 Because it's too fat fat glass. 2271 01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.359 Yeah, it is so sad to me. 2272 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.439 And I actually I pity people who like bullied whoever, 2273 01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:58.960 like uh, like just going back to Nathan here, like 2274 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:01.880 that is that is more of a reflection on the 2275 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:04.000 people that are making fun of you than it ever 2276 01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:06.479 is of like whatever you have ordered. And I think 2277 01:42:06.520 --> 01:42:09.039 it is a really sad reflection of someone who thinks 2278 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:10.960 who wants to make sure that no one thinks they're 2279 01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:13.840 gay by saying like, hey, whatever you order, I am, 2280 01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:16.319 I am observing it with great interest so that I 2281 01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:20.560 can ensure everybody knows how super manly I am. I 2282 01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:25.159 will I'll come for you Yeah, that is sad. That 2283 01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.199 is a that is a restricted person who like cannot 2284 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:28.680 be free. 2285 01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:33.159 Yeah. But yeah, I mean as Nathan or as we 2286 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:36.560 already said, like if you have a friend who's like 2287 01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:38.520 giving you shit for stuff like that, and it's not 2288 01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:40.720 just a bit and it's an ongoing thing, then oh, 2289 01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:42.600 maybe they need to get some stuff off there. 2290 01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:44.199 Order them a Seaman spritzer. 2291 01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:47.680 Yeah, that'd be great and ask the bartender for the 2292 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:50.079 real thing. They'll know what you mean. 2293 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:52.960 That's a great thing about getting older is that you 2294 01:42:53.159 --> 01:42:55.119 just be so selective with like, Okay, I'm not gonna 2295 01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:56.880 have anyone in my life that's doing that ivy ship 2296 01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:58.800 versus like you're living in the dorms, you're going to 2297 01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:01.039 parties and it's like, well, this is the that's around me, 2298 01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:03.600 and like, wow, a lot of them are assholes, you know, 2299 01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:05.359 like we don't have to deal with that when you 2300 01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:05.760 get older. 2301 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:07.880 I had this conversation with a man the other day. 2302 01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:08.439 I was like, I don't. 2303 01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.159 I mean, I think we have exercised all of the 2304 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:15.880 like those people out of our life completely. Like we 2305 01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:18.760 looked around the other day, We're like we really genuinely 2306 01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:19.640 love all the people we. 2307 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:20.279 Hang out with. 2308 01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:21.479 That's wonderful. 2309 01:43:22.119 --> 01:43:25.199 I think that's also an evolution, right, Like maybe your 2310 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.079 first stage of friendship is like, hey, I'm. 2311 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:28.800 In middle school. 2312 01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:31.800 Whoever's around me, I hope they like me because I'm 2313 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:32.680 very sensitive. 2314 01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:33.640 I am a baby. 2315 01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:35.880 And then the second evolution of that is college, which 2316 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:37.439 is like, I know a little bit about myself, but 2317 01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:39.880 I also desperately want to be liked by you. And 2318 01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:43.079 the final stage is somewhere around mid thirties, where you're like, actually, 2319 01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:47.359 don't give a flaming fuck yeah anymore about anything. I'll 2320 01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:50.880 cut you out so fast because it's my comfort in 2321 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.239 my happiness is pure. 2322 01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:54.119 And I think that is like the ultimate victory. 2323 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:59.319 Yeah, oh, Charmander, Charmelian, Charzard. It would be old fashioned. 2324 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:04.560 Uh huh uh a sazarak okay. And then as the 2325 01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:07.039 chars are, some people might argue the sasak is the 2326 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:07.439 chars are. 2327 01:44:07.479 --> 01:44:10.039 I could. I would hear that out. I would hear 2328 01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:17.359 them argue with them, you are so gay, God, damn 2329 01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:21.520 what you look like? Come back. 2330 01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:24.239 Like dick shaped glass. 2331 01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:31.520 I'm not, I'm not. I'll do that guy in college, Ye, 2332 01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:34.439 twenty of those guys. 2333 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.880 Slam and ass left and right, all right, Mary, I 2334 01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:40.119 want to read this one from Yeah. 2335 01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:44.399 Got you? I did Zephyr. 2336 01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:46.520 I did cut out a bit just for time constraints, 2337 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:48.880 but I left the spirit intact. 2338 01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:49.359 Cool. 2339 01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:51.800 I know exactly this is high fire Escape team. This 2340 01:44:51.920 --> 01:44:54.920 is Zephyr from Mary's Mary Monday twitch streams. 2341 01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:55.560 How cool. 2342 01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.119 Thank you for I think I told you to do this. 2343 01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:01.439 This is very cool. People who watch me play. 2344 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:05.920 Silent Hill right now on my Monday streams asked me 2345 01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:07.760 questions and I said, that's a fire escape question. 2346 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:08.199 Send it it. 2347 01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:12.439 They also said something really nice about Kneval, which I 2348 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:16.239 think is worth mentioning. Create gaming stream of my own 2349 01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:21.199 called Crossing Chords on YouTube. It ran for four years 2350 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:25.319 and it was an absolute blast, and I think that's 2351 01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:28.439 really great, Canevil. Not only I'm glad it inspired you, 2352 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.439 it actually inspired us in many ways to make this podcast. 2353 01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:33.960 One of the things is, like Mike and. 2354 01:45:34.079 --> 01:45:37.359 Dan were very close from working, especially in the New 2355 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.039 York office. You guys got really close. But what made 2356 01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:43.239 Mike and I very close was Knieval. We worked in 2357 01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:45.279 the office together like everybody does. We all have like 2358 01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:48.760 work companions and friendships, but it was Knieval. I think 2359 01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:51.279 that's like when we really learned and tested our friendship. 2360 01:45:51.279 --> 01:45:52.520 It's like where we had our first fight. 2361 01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:53.279 Yeah. 2362 01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:54.800 Yeah, so where we had our first fight. 2363 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:56.960 It's where we like really kind of bonded and learned 2364 01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.840 to trust each other to a certain degree. Kannevl's kind 2365 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:01.439 of like where it all start. I think without Caneval 2366 01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:04.039 this podcast would not exist, and probably not so you. 2367 01:46:04.079 --> 01:46:05.960 Were out all the time together, but like in terms 2368 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.680 of like professional creative endeavors, yeah, I think we learned 2369 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:12.640 where we can definitely push each other a bit too much. 2370 01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:15.119 Maybe not these days, but at that time I was 2371 01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:15.880 more of a hot head. 2372 01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:18.159 Yeah, and I'm a button pusher, there's no question. 2373 01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:21.640 I mean, I know I've learned boundaries from our friendship 2374 01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:24.800 where I've recognized that I will almost say anything for 2375 01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:25.239 a laugh. 2376 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:26.239 And it is. 2377 01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:29.159 It has happened multiple times in my life where my 2378 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:31.760 friends have said, hey, you actually hurt my feelings and 2379 01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:33.560 I'm like, I need to fucking sit down. 2380 01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:35.960 You have said so many awful things about me, and 2381 01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:37.199 I've never had my feelings hurt. 2382 01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:40.479 Why. I think it's I know, Dan, you are very patient. Well, 2383 01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:42.119 I think we're both patient with each other. I'll say 2384 01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:43.960 that because you're actually a real son of a bitch. 2385 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:47.520 I have said some vile things to you this year. 2386 01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:49.600 I do believe that you've earned them. 2387 01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:51.000 But I dick stones. 2388 01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:53.680 You could have messaged me on the side and been like, actually, 2389 01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:57.640 that was very rude and possibly too too personal, and. 2390 01:46:57.720 --> 01:46:58.560 You've never done it. 2391 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:00.319 I've never even considered did. 2392 01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:05.239 For a second a smile on your face something I 2393 01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:10.359 think human soul. I thought to kill your dog during 2394 01:47:10.479 --> 01:47:11.359 good of the year. 2395 01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:14.239 No, I extanded it really well, and the next morning, 2396 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.760 as we were like packing up our ship, I said, 2397 01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:18.800 I am sorry I threatened to kill your dog. 2398 01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:21.239 No, I would never kill your dog, right, And Dan 2399 01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:23.720 was like, dog, don't even mention it. 2400 01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:28.079 How me get in my hooper and everything, And I 2401 01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:30.119 was like, I'm really sorry I threatened to kill your dog. 2402 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:33.880 I still think about You're not important enough to be 2403 01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:35.800 this annoying. I think that is one of the most 2404 01:47:35.880 --> 01:47:40.840 perfectly crafted insults I've ever heard. My Yeah, that's really good, fantastic. 2405 01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:41.920 It's a really brutal one. 2406 01:47:42.159 --> 01:47:44.760 I heard somebody else write in and say, like, uh 2407 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:48.119 that earlier we had someone write in and say your 2408 01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:50.399 soul is cat piss is now in my lexicon, And 2409 01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:53.000 I think that that's also really sweet that other people 2410 01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:57.720 have found my insults to you not only tantalizing and brutal, 2411 01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:00.279 but something that could actually be utilized in their every 2412 01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:02.479 day You sent to them like go forth and prosper. 2413 01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.239 But you're like the Tony Hinchcliff of fire Escape, is 2414 01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:07.840 what I say, Mary? 2415 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:08.279 Is not you? 2416 01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:15.159 Yeah, you're the roast specialist. Yeah, I'm the really like cerebral, 2417 01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:19.880 intelligent joke the podcast comic. 2418 01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:23.479 What if I used the prop. 2419 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:28.000 Eight know? 2420 01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:29.439 I don't know who I am? 2421 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:30.199 Yeah? 2422 01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:35.000 Yeah, people always say I'm like a mix of uh Bilburr, 2423 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:42.159 a bit of George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and yeah all 2424 01:48:42.199 --> 01:48:45.159 the big ones all did we finish the question or. 2425 01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:47.119 Onto the question? 2426 01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:49.960 During Mary's stream last night, I asked a question she 2427 01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.199 thought would be good for the podcast That is exactly 2428 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:55.399 what happened. What is the cruelest thing you have encountered 2429 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:58.680 in a game? Just a total dick move by the developers? 2430 01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:01.039 For example, she is in the middle of Silent Hill 2431 01:49:01.079 --> 01:49:04.600 to remake and opening a complicated box involving multiple locks 2432 01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.600 of keys scattered around. She finally opens it and the 2433 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:10.520 box is empty, And I did I looked right into 2434 01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:12.000 the camera and was like, that is a real, like 2435 01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:14.359 son of a bitch move to make me go through 2436 01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:16.800 all of that for an empty box anything else? 2437 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:18.279 Zephyr, Thank you, Zephyr. 2438 01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:19.600 I got a good one. 2439 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:23.600 Okay, the coreux seeds in breadth the wild there being 2440 01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:28.000 a golden piece of shit that does nothing. Yeah, it's 2441 01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:31.840 the craziest nine things you have to get, and you 2442 01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:33.880 assume it's got to be a fucking master's sword you 2443 01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:35.560 can surf on across the land. 2444 01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:37.079 Like an unbreakable sword. 2445 01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:40.279 Yeah. Yeah, it's a fierce deity mask that. Yeah. No, 2446 01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:42.239 it's a golden piece of shit that you can't do anything. 2447 01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:45.359 What do they actually call it? What is its item name? 2448 01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.000 I forget? Yeah, I don't we want to talk about that? 2449 01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:49.760 So fucking funny the uh. 2450 01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:55.039 I guess anything like Dark from software does that often, 2451 01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:58.520 especially like I feel like the first time I because 2452 01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:01.279 if you're talking like the evolution of dark souls, you 2453 01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:04.439 can't not start with demon souls. Demon souls did some 2454 01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:06.600 of that, but it was really sends Fortress and dark 2455 01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:09.960 Souls where they could tell when you're on your last 2456 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:11.880 legs and you're out of flasks, and then all of 2457 01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:13.880 a sudden, this boulder just comes out of nowhere down 2458 01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.319 a stairs stairway and smashes into you, and you're dead. 2459 01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:18.199 They do that all the time, and it's just like 2460 01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:20.800 the game is too well crafted for me to get pissed, 2461 01:50:20.840 --> 01:50:23.079 But it's just really fucking funny as well. 2462 01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:26.359 Is it a Ocarina the Fire Temple where there's those 2463 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:28.199 doors where it just looks like a normal door and 2464 01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:29.000 just falls over you. 2465 01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:32.960 No, yeah, it like headbuts you and wobbles. Yeah, there's 2466 01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:36.920 a lot of Zelda stuff, you like even Metaphor does 2467 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:39.800 the monsters that are living in treasure chests that then 2468 01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:41.199 come out and suck up your whole party. 2469 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:44.520 Yeah, yeah, I like. 2470 01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:49.439 Arcane does that a lot in like Prey the mimic stuff, 2471 01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:53.319 or they'll just put explosive barrels all around this one 2472 01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:55.079 thing that you need to get to very carefully in 2473 01:50:55.159 --> 01:50:55.880 a tense situation. 2474 01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:59.199 Disrespectful too. I'm trying to think of like a nice 2475 01:50:59.199 --> 01:50:59.880 old school exam. 2476 01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:00.159 Well. 2477 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:02.520 I think that culturally, one of the biggest ones was 2478 01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.239 mass effect of like having a game franchise that was 2479 01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:10.119 all about choice, and then the final game had basically 2480 01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:14.119 three very similar ends and so I think that was 2481 01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:16.279 a bit of defeatist to have a game that was 2482 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.399 all about story and then just not have that that matter. 2483 01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:21.479 I think yeah, that was more they fucked up, yeah, 2484 01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:26.720 than like the yeah messing with you, but I it is. 2485 01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:30.319 But I mean I think. 2486 01:51:30.279 --> 01:51:32.239 Zelda does that a lot. It's like, oh, look at 2487 01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:33.760 this great item you got and it's just like a 2488 01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:34.600 wooden stick. 2489 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:37.960 Yeah, like not so triumphant, you know. 2490 01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:44.560 Yeah, I win Waker did stuff like that. Often there's 2491 01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:47.279 from software just all over it, like Eldon Ring does 2492 01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:49.159 that a lot. You'll do a really difficult dungeon and 2493 01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:51.039 then the reards like they have to know this sucks. 2494 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:53.319 Even like linked to the Pass where it's like, oh, 2495 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:55.039 this thing hits you and then you're a fucking bunny. 2496 01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:57.119 They can't do anything. It's like, oh great, this is fun. 2497 01:51:57.239 --> 01:51:57.439 You know. 2498 01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:00.800 It's like the beginning of Indie when that dude ditches 2499 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.119 you and then he runs through and it turns out 2500 01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:05.800 he just got speared. Yeah, Like it's the shit like 2501 01:52:05.880 --> 01:52:08.039 that where you think you're out and then all of 2502 01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:12.560 a sudden they fuck you up. But yeah, there's definitely 2503 01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:14.880 I enjoy when developers can pull that off because like 2504 01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:18.079 usually they it's in a game that is so well 2505 01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:20.960 crafted otherwise that it works, it's funny and then not 2506 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:23.159 actually frustrating. Yeah. 2507 01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.800 Yeah, I would think that metal Gear would do that 2508 01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:28.279 to the player. Does that ever happen in metal Gear? 2509 01:52:28.319 --> 01:52:30.439 Where it's like setting you up for a big thing, 2510 01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:32.199 then it's like, ah, go fuck yourself. 2511 01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:34.239 Uh there's fun thing. 2512 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:34.600 Oh you O. 2513 01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:36.199 There's stuff where it's like, uh, I think it was 2514 01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:39.479 in the old ones where you would get an item 2515 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.079 but it would have like like a snake in it 2516 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.199 or worm like you get like I'm getting this wrong, 2517 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:45.680 but it's like you get an apple and it would 2518 01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:47.159 have like a worm in it or something, and it 2519 01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:49.039 would go through and eat all of your rations and 2520 01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:51.159 eat all of your health items until you realize it 2521 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:53.079 was doing that and you threw it out. Uh Meddle 2522 01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:54.720 Gear Solid does that where you get something and there's 2523 01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:56.199 a bomb on it, so like you don't even know 2524 01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:59.199 until you hear this beeping and you look through your imagees. 2525 01:52:58.840 --> 01:52:59.279 What the fuck is that? 2526 01:52:59.439 --> 01:53:00.840 Oh the thing I put if it's a fucking bombit 2527 01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:02.840 and you gotta throw it out, Like, yeah, there's some 2528 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:03.560 fun stuff like that. 2529 01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:06.760 Yeah, anytime it does. 2530 01:53:06.640 --> 01:53:08.560 The Fourth Wall type stuff where like you know, the 2531 01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:11.039 the Sorrows River and Meddle of your Solid three where 2532 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:13.159 you have to like basically just kill yourself and at 2533 01:53:13.199 --> 01:53:15.239 the game over screen you have to revive yourself. 2534 01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:16.159 Like weird stuff like that. 2535 01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:21.039 Yeah, I'm trying to think of other ones that are 2536 01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:23.520 just like massive fuck us. I'm sure there's even achievements 2537 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:25.359 that are also fuck used, right where it's just like 2538 01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:29.319 the waste of time achievement, or like you've wasted your 2539 01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:34.039 life trying to get all these pieces and bits and bobs, 2540 01:53:34.079 --> 01:53:36.119 and it's just like we know that you've put way 2541 01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:37.520 too much time into this game, sir. 2542 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:43.720 All right, well, thank you, Zephyr and Nathan and Joseph. 2543 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:48.319 All right, Well that's our last episode of twenty twenty four. 2544 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:51.920 We're three away from one hundred. We gotta start making 2545 01:53:52.079 --> 01:53:55.239 plans for that. We gotta got some talks, but we gotta. 2546 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.640 We'll do something. It's funny, yeah, yeah, we have to 2547 01:53:58.720 --> 01:53:59.279 have a gimmick. 2548 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.159 Spent a good year? What were your favorite Dan? What 2549 01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:07.479 was your favorite fire Escape moment? Can you remember from 2550 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:08.479 twenty It's. 2551 01:54:08.319 --> 01:54:10.119 Always just such a blur, I mean, but the thing 2552 01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:11.760 that always stands out is the Game of the year, 2553 01:54:11.840 --> 01:54:13.920 like having you guys here, and yeah, you know, just 2554 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.039 the way we cram so much fun stuff into just 2555 01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:19.239 like a short weekend where like, you know, it's nice 2556 01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:21.199 dinners like the Tyson fight this time was a nice 2557 01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:23.800 thing to be timed with that and then just hanging out, 2558 01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:26.560 you know, sitting on the deck making a fire dogs. 2559 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:28.720 Oh, that was a fun tradition and I look forward 2560 01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:29.439 to it every year now. 2561 01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:32.479 Yeah, it's really good. So that stands out. We got 2562 01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:33.560 to go to Portland this year too. 2563 01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:38.760 Yes, yes, that was special for me because much like 2564 01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:42.479 Mike's party last year, I think it's very special for 2565 01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:47.479 us to do something that actually isn't about the podcast 2566 01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:49.760 or about our jobs, but just about seeing each other 2567 01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:53.279 and reminding each other that we actually like each other's 2568 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:55.439 company and we like spending time with each other, and 2569 01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:56.720 I like spending time with your. 2570 01:54:56.680 --> 01:54:59.560 Partners, and it's just kind of great to. 2571 01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:03.239 It is always wonderful, no matter what the excuse is, 2572 01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:05.359 whether it's the podcast, whether it's Game of the Year. 2573 01:55:05.840 --> 01:55:08.039 I love seeing you, But I think the most special 2574 01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:09.439 is when it's like, do you guys just want to 2575 01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.800 come to Portland and see this crazy double waterfall with me, 2576 01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:14.560 and you're like yeah, and. 2577 01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:18.319 We're all good about like knowing what trip, like if 2578 01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:20.479 we're doing a trip like the New York meetup thing, 2579 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:22.520 so like that's a fire skift trip. We're making content, 2580 01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:24.640 we're doing side stuff for the Patreon. But then there's 2581 01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:26.279 one two where it's like this is a friend trip. 2582 01:55:26.359 --> 01:55:28.000 You know, this is like we don't even like consider 2583 01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:30.079 like let's squirrel away and make a podcast or whatever, 2584 01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:33.600 Like I think it's important in what we do todes. 2585 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:35.119 We didn't even take a photo. 2586 01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:38.279 There's only one photo of us from the Portland trip, 2587 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:40.199 and I actually don't know whose camera it's on, but 2588 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:43.880 it's at night and we're at a fire. Dan is 2589 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:47.760 wearing nothing but a towel ands on. 2590 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:48.239 No. 2591 01:55:48.479 --> 01:55:52.279 I had a like you could just be laying out 2592 01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:53.520 long at any time. 2593 01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:58.880 But it looks weird because we all got out of 2594 01:55:58.960 --> 01:56:01.199 the pool and we said, oh, we're gonna go sit 2595 01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:03.239 by the fire, and so I grabbed a beer. I 2596 01:56:03.279 --> 01:56:05.079 went by the fire like we said, and you guys 2597 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:07.600 went back and changed change. So all of a sudden, 2598 01:56:07.600 --> 01:56:10.119 you guys are wearing normal ass clothes. I'm in like 2599 01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:13.159 towels are a robe with swim trunks underneath. There's no 2600 01:56:13.319 --> 01:56:15.600 dong risk there. But I just it looks weird in 2601 01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:16.920 the photo, me just full on. 2602 01:56:17.279 --> 01:56:17.439 You know. 2603 01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:19.039 That's why it never came out. 2604 01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:20.920 It's because it looks like I'm just being weird. 2605 01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:24.640 Looks like you're just naked for some reason, and everybody 2606 01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:25.600 else is clothed. 2607 01:56:25.800 --> 01:56:28.399 They are full swim trunks down underneath. I'd risk no 2608 01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:29.239 dong slippage. 2609 01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:30.359 There's no proof. 2610 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:34.399 Yep, I got my camera cannot look crystal clear? 2611 01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:34.760 Yeah? 2612 01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:35.800 Can I send it out? 2613 01:56:36.840 --> 01:56:40.119 Send it to me? Why is it still focusing on me? 2614 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:42.560 What is my camera down? Your new camera? 2615 01:56:43.319 --> 01:56:44.560 Send it? Send it to me. 2616 01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:49.119 And you can't see it. You can't tell from the photo. 2617 01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:53.880 But my my shirt pocket and a lot of creases 2618 01:56:53.920 --> 01:56:55.920 in my clothes are full of goldfish because Dan kept 2619 01:56:56.359 --> 01:57:01.439 filling my creases with goldfish. I forgot about like fat 2620 01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:06.000 shirt pocket of goldfish. There's all four of us. 2621 01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:09.319 Okay, nice, one of these days did change at that point? 2622 01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:10.640 Am I still just wearing here? 2623 01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:10.840 Now? 2624 01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:12.319 You changed in the marine layer? 2625 01:57:12.399 --> 01:57:12.560 Sure? 2626 01:57:12.600 --> 01:57:18.199 I think? Okay, seamoon right there? You can't see it. Yeah, 2627 01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:19.760 It's been a fun year. It was a busy year. 2628 01:57:19.800 --> 01:57:22.560 I'm looking forward to next year to travel nearly as 2629 01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:25.439 much for leisure stuff. I get to just hang out more. 2630 01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:29.000 I'm hoping. I mean, I'll be traveling for work. I 2631 01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:30.800 mind up for early in the year. I think I 2632 01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:32.319 actually might just be able to be home for a while. 2633 01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:32.960 That'll be nice. 2634 01:57:33.640 --> 01:57:38.399 Yeah, I hopefully soon we'll have my full Irish citizenship 2635 01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:41.079 and thus EU citizenship. I think I'm at the final 2636 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:44.319 step based on stuff I've read. Uh, now I just 2637 01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:46.399 have to fight a leprechaun and then beat on nice 2638 01:57:46.439 --> 01:57:51.920 and then I'm a citizen. Going to Ireland. I think 2639 01:57:52.039 --> 01:57:54.079 in the spring, maybe early summer. 2640 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:54.960 Nice. 2641 01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:58.279 Maybe maybe you go maybe get even more annoying about wine. 2642 01:57:58.399 --> 01:57:59.520 That's my new year's resolution. 2643 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:01.199 Yeah, you got I love it. You should text my 2644 01:58:01.279 --> 01:58:04.760 dad more. Yeah, I've been about wine. 2645 01:58:05.720 --> 01:58:06.319 About wine. 2646 01:58:06.359 --> 01:58:08.880 Me and him talk about wine a lot. Yeah, it 2647 01:58:08.920 --> 01:58:10.720 would really brighten his hotel room to have does have 2648 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:15.000 nice some veno, just just wine and cigarette smoke. I 2649 01:58:15.079 --> 01:58:17.159 want to get the hotel address and his room number 2650 01:58:17.199 --> 01:58:18.520 and send him bottles of wine. 2651 01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:20.800 Oh god, yeah, I know. 2652 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.800 May he would hate that. Maybe it'll it'll be what 2653 01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.159 propels him to go get a house. He has to 2654 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:27.840 get out to get out. 2655 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:29.840 Of this space the house, and then he sells that 2656 01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.159 house to keep it from doing that. Yees. 2657 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:35.279 He goes into a bunker, which I've already stocked with wine. 2658 01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:38.439 That's that's the Pokemon evolution of fall record living situations, 2659 01:58:38.479 --> 01:58:39.720 as bunker is the last one. 2660 01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:43.560 I'm going to advertise a bunker that someone can live 2661 01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:46.119 in and purposely get him to move in. It turns 2662 01:58:46.159 --> 01:58:50.039 out just my wine cellar you live. Yeah, yep, we 2663 01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:50.399 both do. 2664 01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:53.279 Mary, What do you have going on outside of the 2665 01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:54.079 show of ours? 2666 01:58:54.880 --> 01:58:56.880 Trying to finish uh? 2667 01:58:58.199 --> 01:58:59.680 But up Silent Hill too. 2668 01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:02.159 Was trying to say Portal Silent Hill two. I don't 2669 01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:03.119 know where Portal came from. 2670 01:59:03.159 --> 01:59:05.119 They're very similar, same developer. 2671 01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:11.079 Yeah, same quirky humor. Anyway, I'll probably try and finish 2672 01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:11.880 Silent Hill two. 2673 01:59:12.319 --> 01:59:12.439 Uh. 2674 01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:15.359 And because it's usually I like to have a game 2675 01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:19.039 while I'm on break, I need to actually find the 2676 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:21.439 game that I'm going to pour lots of hours into 2677 01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:25.960 to beat before. It usually is a Zelda, because you know, 2678 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:28.840 you could just put mad hours into Azelda and enjoy it. 2679 01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:31.319 But I don't have a backlog of a Zelda that 2680 01:59:31.399 --> 01:59:34.640 I need to get through, so I'm actually not sure 2681 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:37.600 what my Christmas break game should be. 2682 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:40.039 Where you at with Mario stuff? 2683 01:59:42.039 --> 01:59:44.800 I like the Mario. I think I'm more of a 2684 01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:47.800 Metroid Vania person, is like my favorite place to be. 2685 01:59:48.039 --> 01:59:49.199 But I love obviously. 2686 01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:50.479 Do you play Metroid Dread? 2687 01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:51.279 Uh? 2688 01:59:52.319 --> 01:59:53.079 Was that the remake? 2689 01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:55.479 Oh? 2690 01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:59.119 I haven't wait, Sorry it was, but it was a 2691 01:59:59.239 --> 02:00:00.600 remake of the original. 2692 02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:04.800 It's original zero mission that they have done remakes. 2693 02:00:04.479 --> 02:00:07.640 But they did metroc Prime remaster, but is a brand 2694 02:00:07.720 --> 02:00:10.000 new one switch specific new one. 2695 02:00:10.920 --> 02:00:12.000 I think that could be good for me. 2696 02:00:12.279 --> 02:00:13.439 I would love to hear your thoughts on that. 2697 02:00:13.800 --> 02:00:16.800 Okay, let me let me look it up on the switch, 2698 02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:19.279 because I yeah, I usually I take my steam Deck everywhere, 2699 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:20.239 so it's kind of weird. 2700 02:00:20.119 --> 02:00:22.760 To be like dusting off the old switch. 2701 02:00:23.239 --> 02:00:24.399 I haven't. I haven't. 2702 02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:27.720 I haven't looked at that in four years. Like I've 2703 02:00:27.840 --> 02:00:29.079 forgotten what it even is. 2704 02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:31.399 I got my year in review stuff from all the 2705 02:00:31.439 --> 02:00:33.960 big platforms. It's like, I barely touched this thing this year. 2706 02:00:34.119 --> 02:00:35.039 I don't know what it is. 2707 02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:38.439 It's still outdated. It just has no value anymore. 2708 02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:40.000 Dan, what are you have going on? 2709 02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:46.359 Odd holiday stuff? But yeah, I'm on Blue Sky, Instagram, Twitch, 2710 02:00:47.239 --> 02:00:50.119 I do think. Yeah, looking like next year, early next year, 2711 02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:51.880 I might be able to stream a little more frequently. 2712 02:00:53.199 --> 02:00:55.119 So yeah, hoping to take a little easy after a 2713 02:00:55.239 --> 02:00:55.840 very busy year. 2714 02:00:56.520 --> 02:01:00.840 I played dread God. Damn it. I played the shit 2715 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:02.840 out of this game. It's really good, it's really fun. 2716 02:01:03.000 --> 02:01:03.479 Moss fights. 2717 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:05.760 The last boss fight is like such a song. At 2718 02:01:05.840 --> 02:01:07.039 some point I was like, I don't know if I 2719 02:01:07.079 --> 02:01:07.960 want to beat this anymore. 2720 02:01:08.479 --> 02:01:09.439 What else do you got for me? 2721 02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:15.600 Mmmmmmm? Turn to think games from recent I mean, are 2722 02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:16.439 you up for going old? 2723 02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:17.479 Yeah? 2724 02:01:18.439 --> 02:01:20.279 Interesting? Okay, so that's Zelda. 2725 02:01:20.520 --> 02:01:22.720 She played Zelda like old school Zelda's, but I think 2726 02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:24.920 I've caught up. I don't know if there's any Zelda's 2727 02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:25.960 I haven't played anymore. 2728 02:01:26.520 --> 02:01:28.479 I would say Snake Eater if there wasn't a remake 2729 02:01:28.479 --> 02:01:33.399 coming out soon. Obviously, got Resident Evil taken care of. 2730 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:38.880 I always like looking for like a hidden gem that 2731 02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:41.279 you could just pour like thirty hours into. 2732 02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:43.560 Okay, I'm looking at my top one hundred games of 2733 02:01:43.640 --> 02:01:44.039 all time. 2734 02:01:44.479 --> 02:01:45.680 Okay, thank you find one here? 2735 02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:47.560 Okay, all right, thank you. I want to go down 2736 02:01:47.600 --> 02:01:49.760 until she hasn't played one Okay, well, I mean Mario, 2737 02:01:49.920 --> 02:01:51.079 it's gonna be a lot of old stuff. 2738 02:01:51.199 --> 02:01:52.079 It's all Mario. 2739 02:01:52.680 --> 02:01:56.239 All right, here's my top one hundred games of all time. Okay, 2740 02:01:56.359 --> 02:01:59.560 here's the list. We're gonna start from the top. Bret 2741 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:03.800 the While, Link to the Past, Yeah, okay, Mario World, Meddle, 2742 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:05.399 your Solid Soul Calle or some of these. 2743 02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:15.119 I've never played any uh not, Mario. I've never played 2744 02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:16.600 a Metal I've never played a Metal game. 2745 02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:19.079 Do you know the story at all? I know that 2746 02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:20.640 nobody knows the story. 2747 02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:22.399 Try. 2748 02:02:24.439 --> 02:02:26.399 Kayla just went through all them for the first time. 2749 02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:27.439 And what else you got? 2750 02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:31.159 My caveat that. 2751 02:02:31.439 --> 02:02:35.159 I think I would be very interested to see what Okay, 2752 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:37.960 I guess if you play the Blue Point Collection, then 2753 02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:38.760 the controls are. 2754 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:40.319 A bit more collection thing. 2755 02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:42.920 Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming that's what Kayla played. 2756 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.000 Yeah, she played the Master Collection. Okay. Do you play 2757 02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:48.600 Link between Worlds? Marry the three D s? Zelda? 2758 02:02:50.239 --> 02:02:52.600 Do you go into paintings as like a two dimensional. 2759 02:02:52.399 --> 02:02:54.520 I started it, I don't think I finished it, which 2760 02:02:54.560 --> 02:02:59.239 is odd one. Okay, finish it. 2761 02:02:59.760 --> 02:03:02.279 It's it's really, really, really good. I have a lot 2762 02:03:02.279 --> 02:03:07.000 of old games on this list. Weird play Total War 2763 02:03:07.039 --> 02:03:07.720 Warhammer three? 2764 02:03:09.319 --> 02:03:10.159 What else you got. 2765 02:03:17.880 --> 02:03:20.840 And super very old Mary. 2766 02:03:20.880 --> 02:03:22.840 We should finish resume before remake sometime soon. 2767 02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:25.560 Dude, you, why is that on me? 2768 02:03:26.279 --> 02:03:27.560 You're the busier one. 2769 02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:29.479 No, I'm not busier than you are. 2770 02:03:29.960 --> 02:03:31.439 I think we're both equally busy. 2771 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:32.520 But we got we should. 2772 02:03:32.680 --> 02:03:33.760 Let's finish finish. 2773 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:35.680 I'm away this week. 2774 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:37.479 I'm free next week. 2775 02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:39.840 Okay, I should be as well. 2776 02:03:39.920 --> 02:03:43.399 All right, let's finish it. Dan, name me more games. 2777 02:03:43.800 --> 02:03:46.439 Look to my entire list and they're just all very old. 2778 02:03:47.239 --> 02:03:49.399 I don't know if they're the ones you want to go. 2779 02:03:49.479 --> 02:03:52.000 For right now. Like play like Bloodstain. If you like 2780 02:03:52.039 --> 02:03:54.239 Metro a Venus, that sounds awesome, that's a really good one. 2781 02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:57.000 Yeah, okay, I really think God Med you're would be 2782 02:03:57.079 --> 02:03:58.279 so fun to hear you talk about. 2783 02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:01.560 I don't know if you would be able to stomach 2784 02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:03.680 a lot of the like dated design stuff, but. 2785 02:04:03.720 --> 02:04:06.199 That's interesting to hear about. Yeah, it is. 2786 02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:08.199 But I just don't even know if Mary would fight 2787 02:04:08.279 --> 02:04:08.560 through it. 2788 02:04:08.840 --> 02:04:12.039 I don't think I would. I've played I've played Ritual 2789 02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:12.600 of the Night. 2790 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:14.600 That's the one, that's the main one. 2791 02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:17.840 Okay, I've played that. It's so good, The evolutions of 2792 02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:21.039 the character crazy. All right, I'll keep thinking, and then 2793 02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:22.960 I'll let you know the next time we record. What 2794 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:25.199 game I poured forty hours into? 2795 02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:26.680 You played the Mario Galaxies? 2796 02:04:27.640 --> 02:04:29.239 I mean I've played Mario Galaxy. 2797 02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:32.399 Is there more? There's Galaxy too, which is better? 2798 02:04:33.159 --> 02:04:33.319 Oh? 2799 02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:34.800 Very good? 2800 02:04:35.239 --> 02:04:37.720 Maybe that'd be kind of you'd have to pull out 2801 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:39.239 a Wii for that, a little forgettable. 2802 02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:43.319 Yeah, uh, I don't think metal Gear is right there. 2803 02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:46.199 You would love your top mettal Gear. 2804 02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:48.880 No, No, because that would feel too much like a project. 2805 02:04:48.960 --> 02:04:50.159 I think I don't know if it is a lot, 2806 02:04:50.960 --> 02:04:51.720 it's so dense. 2807 02:04:52.840 --> 02:04:56.680 Although I have been thinking about replaying Phantom Pain lately. 2808 02:04:56.640 --> 02:05:00.359 I've been thinking about doing peace Walker. Oh interesting, do 2809 02:05:00.439 --> 02:05:00.960 you have to pain? 2810 02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:01.159 Though? 2811 02:05:01.239 --> 02:05:02.880 Like has that first like ten hours? 2812 02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:04.239 That could be a slog, But then once you're in 2813 02:05:04.319 --> 02:05:06.680 the like open world gameplay loop, then it's great. 2814 02:05:07.119 --> 02:05:10.039 What's the final evolution of metal Gear? Which game. 2815 02:05:13.119 --> 02:05:15.760 Four just kind of ties everything together? I mean, if 2816 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:18.000 the evolution of gameplay, it's five, But as far as 2817 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:19.640 just the metal geariness, it's four. 2818 02:05:19.720 --> 02:05:23.960 I think I'd say Snake Eaters Charmellion, and then Charmander 2819 02:05:23.960 --> 02:05:24.760 would be the first game. 2820 02:05:25.319 --> 02:05:27.520 I wonder if Slime Rancher got better. Maybe I'll just 2821 02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:31.920 pour forty hours to some kind of cozy ranch game. Yeah, 2822 02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:32.920 that sounds awesome. 2823 02:05:33.159 --> 02:05:35.399 Stard just dropped another update like last week. 2824 02:05:35.560 --> 02:05:37.920 Did they though, because now they're just release updates. 2825 02:05:37.920 --> 02:05:40.079 But it's the same game, and you're just like, but 2826 02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:41.920 you can fuck in it and it's just like I 2827 02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:42.840 don't care, Like. 2828 02:05:42.920 --> 02:05:43.840 What what else do you have? 2829 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:44.920 That's the one that brought me back. 2830 02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:45.840 Bully. 2831 02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:48.199 I've never played Bully. 2832 02:05:48.399 --> 02:05:51.399 Bully's really good. Okami. There's HD versions of that. 2833 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:54.760 I played Ocamy okay, Okay, I was proud of beating. 2834 02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:57.000 I beat that way late in my life. But I 2835 02:05:57.119 --> 02:05:59.520 have I have completed Okami. 2836 02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:02.279 It's eight Paper, Mario thousand your Door. 2837 02:06:03.159 --> 02:06:04.560 I don't think I've done Paper, but they. 2838 02:06:04.560 --> 02:06:07.199 Got that remake and it's on got that remake and 2839 02:06:07.279 --> 02:06:10.520 it's it's really it's still very funny, I think, Mary, 2840 02:06:11.039 --> 02:06:14.880 but it is. And you know, I don't like RPGs, 2841 02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:17.600 but the charm and the gameplay, like the turn based 2842 02:06:17.640 --> 02:06:21.840 stuff is very good. I know, I know, like I 2843 02:06:22.079 --> 02:06:23.880 don't like rbgs either, but this is a good one. 2844 02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:25.239 All right. 2845 02:06:25.560 --> 02:06:27.960 Just let's offline the rest of this. You got you 2846 02:06:28.079 --> 02:06:28.920 got suggestions. 2847 02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:31.720 We're not done yet now you're still scrolling through giant 2848 02:06:31.760 --> 02:06:32.359 lists of games. 2849 02:06:32.800 --> 02:06:37.399 Yeah, great radio, But anyway, thank you to everybody. Uh, 2850 02:06:37.680 --> 02:06:39.680 just backchecking a bit. You can go to fires right 2851 02:06:39.720 --> 02:06:43.039 into Fires, No, that game is not that great. 2852 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:44.359 Fire Escape Cast. 2853 02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:48.319 Gmail dot com rending questions. Also, if you're not a 2854 02:06:48.479 --> 02:06:50.920 patron and you want to get ad free episodes or 2855 02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:53.439 video versions, you can go to fire Escape pass dot com. 2856 02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:55.920 That that'll take you to our Patreon. You can also 2857 02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:57.520 just treat it like a tip jar. If you appreciate 2858 02:06:57.560 --> 02:07:00.520 what we do, I want to contribute. Uh, pat Treon 2859 02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:02.960 money is what makes the Game of the Year possible 2860 02:07:03.159 --> 02:07:05.920 every year and never too early for us to start 2861 02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:09.039 saving up for that trip. But for the people who 2862 02:07:09.159 --> 02:07:11.079 have been patrons for a while, people who've just been 2863 02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:12.760 listening for a while, thank you so much. As we 2864 02:07:12.840 --> 02:07:15.800 close out another year. It's been crazy that we have 2865 02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:19.159 done ninety seven episodes. Considering we're a bi weekly show, 2866 02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:22.720 that's quite a long time now, heaving forward to twenty five, 2867 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:25.840 twenty twenty five, No not shen, these are all terrible suggestions. 2868 02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:27.199 Replay Outer Wilds. Mary. 2869 02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:29.000 They had that new DLC and they have like the 2870 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:32.520 they have like twelve hours of new content, and that 2871 02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:34.880 two years ago that DLC that came out Forgetting It 2872 02:07:34.960 --> 02:07:35.359 was called. 2873 02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:38.000 I think I would like to replay Outer Wild's like 2874 02:07:38.039 --> 02:07:39.079 what a fantastic here. 2875 02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:42.119 I think I've forgotten enough about the intricacies of the 2876 02:07:42.159 --> 02:07:44.079 puzzles that it would still be a bit. 2877 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:44.680 Like discovering it. 2878 02:07:44.760 --> 02:07:46.680 I think I would have to replay like how to 2879 02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:49.159 I remember how you eventually have to like get to 2880 02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:52.159 the final area. I don't think that I'll ever forget that. 2881 02:07:53.479 --> 02:07:55.840 But there's there's my new Shawn different planets that I have, 2882 02:07:56.079 --> 02:07:59.359 you know, left my memory. Yeah, you can go to 2883 02:07:59.399 --> 02:08:03.199 fire skatear dot com if you wanna. Do you want 2884 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:05.520 to get We don't have bumper stickers yet that say uh, 2885 02:08:06.399 --> 02:08:08.039 fuck my way out of Heaven, but we'll get there. 2886 02:08:09.720 --> 02:08:13.279 That's fire Skate Fire skate Merch dot com. Anyway, that's 2887 02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:16.159 our episode. We'll be back in twenty twenty five at 2888 02:08:16.199 --> 02:08:20.479 this point. Time Splitters two, oh yeah, that's on. I 2889 02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:22.640 believe that's Xbox Arcade. 2890 02:08:22.880 --> 02:08:25.319 I played Time Crisis too. I loved it. 2891 02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:26.199 Also good game. 2892 02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:30.880 Yeah all right, well I'm gonna cut this off because 2893 02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:31.720 I'm getting annoyed. 2894 02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:38.199 Pick Man, which one I've played the latest. 2895 02:08:38.239 --> 02:08:40.880 All right, I went for We'll be back on episode 2896 02:08:40.960 --> 02:08:41.399 ninety eight. 2897 02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:43.960 Thank you so much, everybody, We'll see you then, Sean 2898 02:08:44.039 --> 02:08:48.079 cut this off here, Hi, everybody paid for Jade Empire