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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape cast. This

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is episode ninety seven, the last episode of twenty twenty

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four fire Escapes fourth.

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Speaker 2: Year operating something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty one April twenty twenty one, so wow. Yeah, yes,

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April will be the five year, no four year anniversary.

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What we're almost to four years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah that checks out. Yeah okay, but.

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Speaker 1: We were doing stuff before that. We did the half year.

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Speaker 2: Five Game of the Years yeah okay.

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Speaker 4: So that's what makes it confusing is because we did

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we did a gody as our very first test EPI,

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and when we did that, we kind of were like, oh,

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this is let's let's do it for real.

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Speaker 5: No, but I consider that a part of the three announcement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, preak through twenty twenty is the first one. Then

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we did the Game of the Year twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like our pilot episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then people were like, I cannot imagine my

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life without this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Clamor they were emailing there.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of clamor and people holding signs outside

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of our houses.

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Speaker 5: They sat them, get them away. We said it back back, I.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, be gone, leave the house.

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Speaker 3: It's like those old clips of the Beatles and there's

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just like a million people chased them through the streets.

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Speaker 4: I know, we almost got canceled. Mike said we were

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bigger than Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we stay that. We stayed by that. I

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said that, we all said that.

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Speaker 5: He stands by it.

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Speaker 3: The podcast fire Escapecast colon we're bigger than Jesus in

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numerous ways.

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Speaker 5: We bought that billboard right, it's.

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Speaker 1: In Oklahoma somewhere, and us just all like flipping double

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birds in the airs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wore I told you guys this, but I think

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I didn't post a photo, but I think people would

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find it funny. I wore my dorky Christmas sweatshirt to

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my day job, and uh, a person who I like

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a lot pretty high up my company. This person no no, no, no,

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not even on the game scene like the wider Oh.

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Speaker 2: Like she's high up. She's like, what is dorky Christmas?

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What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, uh I oh, it's

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just a podcast I used to listen to. I honestly,

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it's an inside joke. I forgot how it started. And

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then I kind of just like sidled away.

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Speaker 2: You should have been like my friend had a dream

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that he kind of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even there's no, it's not like that

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it's inappropriate. It's that the explanation is so weird.

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Speaker 2: Just separately too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's inappropriate, definitely, but also like, yeah, he had

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a dream where someone offered him a dorky Christmas. But

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in the dream logic it made sense that it was

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a hand job.

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Speaker 3: But also in the dream it didn't even happen, so

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that verbiage.

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Speaker 2: But happy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if like the VP of my company

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would differentiate between whether the dorky Christmas happened.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just wasn't finished.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, that would be a very fun HR meeting. Yeah,

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it was, actually it was. It was dry and it

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was there's no completion. He woke up first, that's true,

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but it was funny. I made sure to stand in

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like the front row so you could see the sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: I'll send you guys the photo.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic, and I really just didn't have any other

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It was, you know, the theme was as usual, ugly

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Christmas sweater and that was the old like I have

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that one with the Santa who's ripped lifting weights. But

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I was like, that's played out.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the ugly Christmas sweater thing, like drawing

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attention to the ugliness that started what like ten years ago?

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Speaker 2: Yeah about that.

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Speaker 5: It became it became ironic they were in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: In nineties, like Christmas films, you'd always see ugly sweaters.

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Speaker 3: So I was ever like, like I found the ugliest,

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silliest one.

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Speaker 2: It was just like that's what people wore.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm with you, But I'm sure if we

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google it, we'd realize we're wrong. I don't feel like

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googling it though, Yeah, well no I do, Yeah, I do. Actually,

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when do you think I'm of saying shit and finding

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out months later I was nowhere near.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to just wonder, like the commercialization of it,

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which is I think what we're talking about, is it

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Speaker 5: It became oh wow, mainstream ruined and a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think it's still fun and I think people should

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still wear their silly sweaters. But there was a point

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when Spencer's only sold like four hundred terrible looking sweaters

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with sexual innuendos like jingle my bells, and stuff by

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stocking honey, and it's just like at some point you

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were like, I think we've we've jumped the shark on

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these sweaters.

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Speaker 2: The proposition of it all. Yeah, we were, as they said, Yeah,

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we were not far off.

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Speaker 1: So they originally came to be in the fifties as

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jingle bell sweaters. However, sixties and seventies counterculture, they became

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like more like not even ironic, like on purpose to

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show like more of a low class holiday expression. Eighties,

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a certain lead in a show called The Cosby Show

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popularized them with strange patterns.

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Speaker 2: You like that.

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Speaker 1: The nineties and two thousands, the style of ugly Christmas

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sweaters winded down, but was revived by the two thousand

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and one film Bridget jones Is Diary, where Mark Darcy

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a shame for wearing an unattractive knit reindeer sweater. And

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then two thousands and onward, ugly sweater parties become popular

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and the trend gain camp appeal in the twenty ten So, yes,

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you're spot on.

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Speaker 3: And now it's gotten even more fun. Yeah, you know,

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I go home for the holidays and it's like, oh good,

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there's a bunch of trump Christmas sweaters.

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Speaker 2: Great, that's fun. That's a great time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be you can be open about those.

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These days now even more.

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Speaker 3: People are celebrating down there. It's great, yes, yeah, But

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I don't have many of these days.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I've never really I did it once for like once

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or twice for we did that for Giant Bomb, where

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it's like we did christmasweater Steff and I got like

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a Matchman or any savage thing. But I don't think

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I've ever been a sweater guy.

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Speaker 4: I have the best one because Dan gifted me stofers'

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tis the season for cheese.

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Speaker 2: And yeah I still have that, right, you took that

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home the Big Dane.

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Speaker 4: I get a lot of mments on this. Stofer tis

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the season for cheese and sweater. I really do, I

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genuinely do. I got stopped in a supermarket three times

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by people saying what is that that is so funny?

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Is there macaroni on the sleeves? And I was like,

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you bet your buttons there are, and it's just like

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it's funny, it's ironic, but it's also like genuinely from

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Speaker 5: I'll take a photo and share it because it's a funny. Genuinely,

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it is a funny sweater.

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Speaker 4: This is how it happened is I went to Dan's unprepared,

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as per usual.

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Speaker 5: I think I had to go from a different work trip.

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Speaker 4: I went literally from a work trip to your place,

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and I didn't have time to pack for both climates.

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and so I asked you for a sweater.

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Speaker 5: You gave me a what a burger onesie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which I snuggy. Yeah, it was really comfortable, super comfortable.

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Speaker 5: I loved it. He gave me first. Yeah, how did

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Speaker 2: This is really comfortable.

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Speaker 4: I got in I got it in the middle of

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the night for a glass of water, and I laughed

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and I yelled at Mike and my pajamas.

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Speaker 5: How Mike got in my pajamas?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: You woke up a lot heavier than when you went

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Speaker 5: Just dragging this loaf around.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, so the water burger onesie was very comfortable

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and I enjoyed it. And then I was like, damn it,

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I wish I had like one more sweater because you

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think you can, but I do think it's frowned upon socially.

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And so Dan takes a box down from his.

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Speaker 6: Garage and it is a Stofer's Christmas package and it

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is filled with several sweaters from Stofers, who I shoes like,

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just sends you stuff because you love Stowfers so much.

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Speaker 4: And it included a tis the season for Cheese and

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ugly sweater. It also included a mac and cheese hoodie,

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which I think ishilarious because that's what we did last

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time we visited you.

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Speaker 5: I do it did my closet, I dude, My carry

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on was stuffed to the brim.

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Speaker 4: I was worried at any moment it was gonna snap

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open and all of my mac and cheese wardrobe was

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gonna pop out on the plane.

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Speaker 5: But I got both those babies home.

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Speaker 3: I am glad you did, because I mean it. I

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think I might have ruined macaroni and cheese for myself.

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like between break, I think my body and brain now

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have revolted against macaroni and cheese and are like telling

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this way, you know, breaking my finger. I'm glad I

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gave this stuff to you that not my house more cuz, uh,

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there's a good chance, I would say a fifty percent

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chance that I will have to just randomly leave this

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room in the middle of this podcast and either puke

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I guess I haven't talked to you guys. No,

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that's not just something you can bring up.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, So Wednesday night, so as this recording,

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this was you know, five days ago, six days ago

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or whatever. Tim Terry, your friend of mine, was in

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town for the holidays, and m went out to the

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Chatterbox pup to kind of catch up, have some drinks,

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have some food.

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Speaker 2: I go there and, uh, this place used to be

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Speaker 3: I looked at more recent uh Google reviews, and it's like, oh,

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something has happened to this place. And I ordered a

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menu item called mac amania and it.

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Speaker 2: Was a ves describe it, okay, so it's it's a

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vat of macaroni and cheese. Great awesome, which.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I also got a appetizer of a

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big soft pretzel and a beer cheese dip.

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Speaker 1: So I had a bunch of to get there.

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Speaker 5: Did your cheese appetite for your cheese maine.

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Speaker 2: For the vat?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and yeah, that's what I said, yes, yeah. And

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so the thing with Macamania is it's just the biggest

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fucking bowl of macaroni cheese you've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: I get to know about.

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Speaker 4: Macamania is not a bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's a deep cooking dish that's like flat auldron.

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Speaker 2: It's like a cauldron.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's we're familiar with these containers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too, unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: And so you picked three add ons and I picked

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pulled pork, sage, sausage, and chili.

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Speaker 2: That I wanted.

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Speaker 3: They didn't that I didn't pick chili as the third

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big ass bowl of chili. And I told him like, oh,

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it in there, like okay, And I just dumped the

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entire bowl of chili into my macamania file. Oh my god,

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so or uh something something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the nanosecond I'm done, actually, before I finish eating

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this thing, I start feeling terrible.

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Speaker 5: Did you finish it? I just want to know I.

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Speaker 2: Did finish it.

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Speaker 3: And also like they didn't bring like forks, and there's

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just like a weird like mug thing on the table

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that like I didn't know. There was just like two

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forks in there that I couldn't tell if they were

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clean or not.

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Speaker 2: And I asked Tim. I was like, do you think

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these are clean?

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, they must have washed it, but it

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looked like a discard mug for dirty silver or something like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I used it and ooh felt real bad by

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the end, and I'm like, okay, all right, see it, Tim,

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you know, go home.

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Speaker 2: I have a beer and go to bed.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Next morning, I wake up a couple hours where I

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normally do, and it's just gurgling and a burglin in there.

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It is just like the stomach is just rolling over itself.

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I'm laying next to she's asleep, and I know she's

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going to hear this, so I hate to give this detail,

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but I'm like she's asleep and this is not a

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like I try not to fart around her too much,

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you know, like she just told me, Am, I just

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feel weird just you know, farting willy nilly around my

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wife all the time.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just going to town.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I, this is gonna be an issue if

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I don't, and I thought it would ease the stomach

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percolating and oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope you shit your pants.

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Speaker 3: Well we're gonna get some more details here because keep

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in mind, I've never shipped my pants past diaper's age.

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Speaker 5: So, oh god, victory lap for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I take I think going back to diaper's age.

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Speaker 3: So I had to get up and I'm just feeling

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real bad. I go downstairs. I have a couple of

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Mountain Dews and then calm the gurgle. They said carbon

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carbonation helps with the gurgling, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also running with Sue Cross and.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. So I had a couple of Baja blast zeros.

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I go down Oh zeros, okay, yeah, yeah, and we've

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got a morning meeting. It was like an all hands

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meeting where it was like, you know, there's you know,

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a different I'm not gonna go to like details or whatever,

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but like, you know, we're having meetings as a company

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and stuff about different meals jumble, so what twenty twenty five,

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what we're doing? You know, there's like a bigger like, hey,

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we're all gonna get together and talk about the plan

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for twenty twenty five basically. So it's an important meeting.

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And I go on there, I turn the camera on

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and stuff, and I'm just like just feeling my face

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get white, and I'm feeling just things. And I've never

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like had to leave a meeting really, I don't think

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for like a bathroom emergency, like like a long stream

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or something. If it's like just me and grab ull

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be like I'm gonna take piss or whatever. This is

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like an important company meeting. And at one point I'm

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like I farted because my mic is muted, and I'm

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like I can fart, this is fine, And there was

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a feeling that I had. I was like, that's I

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have farted tens of thousands of times in my life.

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I've never felt that, And so I just turn off

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my camera and I sprint to the bathroom. I do

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a little wellness check on the situation and no issues.

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Speaker 2: It was just I did a wipe. There was no residue.

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Speaker 1: Are they still are the are the underwear and questions

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still intact? I'd like to inspect these myself.

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Speaker 3: They're totally fine. They're in the right now. If we

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take the out of the ham for for the laundry,

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we can save it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna need some time with them. Yep.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, cool, Just good to know not

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to trust any farts today. Run back to the meeting,

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turn the camera back on. Look, Yes, everything's normally as professional.

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Speaker 5: Just maybe shit my pen.

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Speaker 2: No one's the.

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Speaker 3: Wiser until I talk about it on a podcast.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then I am like five minutes, I'm just like dying.

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Speaker 3: And it's like a schedule, like forty five minute meeting,

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and I'm just like, oh, I keep looking at the clock.

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I'm like, I gotta make it twenty three more minutes.

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I gotta make it twenty some long time. When you're

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gurgling and I feel terrible and I have turned the

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camera off again, I sprint into the bathroom and just

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puke everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Just and I what was it? Mac? It was like

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very watery, It was like.

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Speaker 5: Do you think it was the fucking Baja Blast.

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Speaker 3: Zero No, No, I think like two of them that

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you drank in the morning. Everything was a jumble. The

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mac and cheese, the Baja Blast. I think the next

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thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Hours a jumble. This is a Christmas poem about well the

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back in Baja Blast for a jumble I drank.

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Speaker 4: I sprang from my seat to see if my ass

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was a splatter.

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Speaker 2: There was no streakage. Nothing was the matter.

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Speaker 1: March Yeah, you go on for hours, were gonna stop

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right now.

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Speaker 2: So I was.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to be on a podcast that day. I was

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supposed to start my Blake Club game the next day.

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And it's just like, there's just no fucking way. It's

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look for the Blake Club game, I'm doing this Terminator

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three thing, and I got to wear this elaborate, stupid

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fucking thing. I'm like, I'm just gonna shit my pants

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in this for I do this. So I had to,

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Like I laid in bed for like it felt like

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two days straight, Like didn't get out of bed, didn't

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I felt I couldn't even like play a game or anything.

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I was just like puking and laying down and putting

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ice on my head. I puked more in that couple

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of days than I puked in the last like five

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years combined.

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Speaker 5: It must be yeah.

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Speaker 2: Even oh, poisoning.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely still, I'm still feeling the gurglings and burglans in

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there went out the dinner gon last night. I was

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the first like actual like dinner meal I've had since

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it happened. It went all right, But.

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Speaker 5: What did you have to cheese?

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Speaker 3: I had so it was a Japanese Italian fusion restaurant thing,

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and one of the things was a pasta type thing,

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but I don't think I would call it mac and cheese.

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Speaker 5: What was it? Was it pasta with cheese?

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Speaker 2: Japanese Italian fusion in itself? Sans Shan Sancho John.

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Speaker 5: None of that is necessary? Was it cheese pasta? Dan?

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Speaker 2: There was cheese? I can look up the menu. It

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was a lot though.

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Speaker 3: It was like almost like Tapa Tapa style where we

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just like ordered like a ton of different stuff.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Here's the menu, Spanish and Italian and Japanese Spanish. Una.

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That's not worth explaining.

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Speaker 2: I had aaron chi, I had porkiosa. I had sweet

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potato karaque.

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Speaker 3: I had uh uh some pasta.

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Speaker 2: But what was the pasta?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of these was like a cheesy ish thing,

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but I don't think anybody would call it macaroni cheese.

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But I did have We had two different pizzas, like

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pesto pizza with mozzarella.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, skewers of meat and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: Have you considered maybe taking it easy on the cheesy.

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Speaker 2: I think I do.

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Speaker 3: Think it's my body kind of telling me that, like, hey,

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you can't just keep having cauldrons of macaroni and cheese

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and like six beers.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought you were gonna say you are

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finally like developing lactose intolerance, but no, you're saying that

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you're still associating maca cheese with the food poisoning, which happens.

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Like I still can't have a burger from a very

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famous chain in New York because I got food poisoning

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from it, right, it's weird link to it.

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Speaker 3: So like I'm eating again and it's mostly fine, but like,

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if I think of macaronie cheese, it's awful. But also

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this place now, I looked at the recent reviews and

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it just seems like it's like I think Tim described

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it as like a bunch of muppet babies trying to

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run a restaurant and like so like it was super slow,

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like all the service like they just wouldn't even look

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at you.

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Speaker 2: They're rolling their eyes at the customers.

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Speaker 3: This one guy, the bartender, for a while was like

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rubbing his eyes like I got a bunch of worship

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sire sauce in my eyes. And he just stood there

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like wow for like a long time. And then there

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was a Google of you being like, yeah, the bartender

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cut his thumb open and was bleeding and I said, oh,

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you need a band aid for that. He's like, no,

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I'm fine. You just kept bleeding everywhere. So like, I

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don't know what the hell happened to the chatter. Yeah,

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but they haven't any ass set up there, which is

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why I like.

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Speaker 4: Itay, the number one rule of all restaurants is is

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don't make people sick.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: It's not even make good food. That is secondary to

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not getting people sick. And the idea that there's like

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people who need band aids and possibly used silverware in

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a mug on your table is really vile. And I

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think that's so stressful that you had to go through that,

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going getting food poisoning is like one of the worst

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hells that people can experience that that I can imagine.

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Speaker 3: I think I maybe had mild versions of it in

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the past, but this is like this gotcha like knocking

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me on my ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gone it twice in the last like ten years,

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and it was so bad the first time. Trying not

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to get too graphic. There was nothing graphic.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing left to come up my bot. No,

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it was not it did not come out that end.

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It was all mouth.

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Speaker 2: Stock, just checking. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in a glass case in the dining room

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on the wall. Yeah, it's like your body. It just

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still feels whatever.

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Speaker 5: It is fox seed. We turned it into a.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's texadermat underwear. There wasn't an animal face

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to it.

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Speaker 3: Like for the first like I would say, twenty four

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to thirty six hours, it was puking and shitting and

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then after that it was mostly just fire hose from

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the ass.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but like with horse where it likes you

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got to like, okay, I'm sorry, but you know, normally

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you wipe your ass and I use a bidet, so

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it's like very nice and clean, but it's all just

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centralized there. But when you have that fire hose ejection

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situation going on, it hits the water with such a

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force that you have to like wipe your asses, your

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bodies because like.

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Speaker 7: Get a shower gun blast of all over your whole buttocks.

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Speaker 5: Disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It sucks. So you need it.

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Speaker 1: You need like a second toilet specifically for diarrhea that's

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really tall, like so you sit way.

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Speaker 2: Up here, just suit it way in. It's like at

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this pit like a cave.

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Speaker 1: Tour splash zone house, and then right diarrhea shack on

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it so your neighbors know not to go in there.

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Speaker 5: I told you guys that I got food poisoning at

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the Game Awards last year, right, and I couldn't eat

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for like six days.

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Speaker 1: It's the long I didn't see you after a certain point.

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Speaker 4: I feel all I had like or dirvs like at

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00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,759
a and I think, you know, probably something sat out

474
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,079
too long. There's a couple, there's always I think I

475
00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:12,680
went to three that night, so there's no guarantee of us.

476
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,920
It could be and everybody else was eating the food

477
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,559
and I'm the only one who got sick. But I

478
00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:21,599
I was ill and I had to take a flight.

479
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,400
And so I was like, don't worry, you can get

480
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,160
through it. But I hadn't eaten or drinken anything in like,

481
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,279
you know, twelve hours, and so I was very thirsty.

482
00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:30,599
Speaker 5: And so I had a.

483
00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:33,279
Speaker 4: Half a bottle of water and I had some SIPs

484
00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:35,640
of my half a bottle of water as I was

485
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,759
in the security line for TSA and as it was

486
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:42,720
my turn, I knew I was going to puke.

487
00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:44,799
Speaker 5: There was no way I was going to get out

488
00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:45,000
of it.

489
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 4: You just know, you know, like you try and repress it,

490
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,759
and you think, you try and mentally say like it.

491
00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 5: Could be anything, but yeah, it was happening.

492
00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: And the closest thing that we had was the water

493
00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:58,359
receptacle that you can dump your water bottle liquid in,

494
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960
and I puked in that in.

495
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,079
Speaker 5: Front of a whole full TSA line.

496
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: That sucks.

497
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: It was aerful, It was awful. And they didn't stop me.

498
00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:12,279
They let me go through and nobody bothered me. And

499
00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,400
I went through the TSA line and then I just

500
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:17,200
I propped myself up next to a little garbage can

501
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720
and I sat there for twenty minutes until my flight.

502
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,519
It was it was a miserable miserable end of the year.

503
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,799
I didn't eat for I said, so I couldn't eat

504
00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:27,799
for like six days. And on the sixth day, I

505
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,920
was like, I genuinely think I was able to drink water.

506
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,359
I think after two days. But when you can only

507
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,160
drink water and you can't have food for six days,

508
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,920
I was very concerned for my health. And so I

509
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,279
made an appointment with a doctor, an emergency visit, and said,

510
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,680
I haven't eaten anything solid in six days. And she

511
00:22:46,759 --> 00:22:50,799
looked at me and she said, you'll be okay. Oh yeah,

512
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,000
And I was like, I did it.

513
00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: I thought you had to eat food like three weeks

514
00:22:55,319 --> 00:23:00,000
or something. I don't know. I don't trust anything, I said,

515
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,960
I recounting.

516
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,799
Speaker 4: Fucking doctor, if you haven't eaten. But I think the

517
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:08,839
way I received it was you think I got a

518
00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,240
bunch of meat on my bones?

519
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: Lady?

520
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 5: She kind of was like, oh, you're fine.

521
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 8: If you were skinny, i'd be worried, but you're good,

522
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,640
go home, And this is just the plague of the woman.

523
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,680
But I was like, how dare you say that I'm

524
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,480
not gonna die from not eating for six days?

525
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:29,519
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm gonna die?

526
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell me?

527
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: I say I'm deader is just hiding up behind the door.

528
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:40,279
Speaker 5: He's the most toxic reaction. I was so sick. I

529
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,519
was like, my body looks incredible.

530
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: I would not get I don't approve of this, but yeah,

531
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,559
that was like my terrible experience.

532
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,279
Speaker 5: After six days, I had some saltines and I was back, baby,

533
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:56,920
But I I still and I don't know again, but like,

534
00:23:57,319 --> 00:23:58,880
I think it could have been like some kind of

535
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,079
mac and cheese ball situation. And I do think that

536
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,799
mac and cheese has a special consistency that might lend

537
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:11,839
itself to food born illness. There's just something about like

538
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:16,440
it's just gooey. It's like half warm, half cool. Anything

539
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,319
can be in that goo.

540
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,079
Speaker 4: You wouldn't know it if there was like a fingernail

541
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,759
in there, because you're just kind of like gulping the

542
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:24,160
whole ball at once. So I just think it lends

543
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,160
itself to something you can hide gross stuff in.

544
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,079
Speaker 3: I really wonder if it's if I'm gonna shake this like,

545
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:32,400
because it's I could think about eating a steak right

546
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,519
now or peanut butter sandwich and be fine, but mac

547
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:35,240
and cheese I'm.

548
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh god, no, mac and cheese is going to

549
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,640
be a tough one, and I agree with what Mike

550
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,079
was saying. When you have a physical reaction to food mentally,

551
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:45,960
that can harm you.

552
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: For years. I puked my guts out on my sixteenth

553
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:50,759
birthday because I ate a whole rack of ribs. People

554
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:53,119
said I couldn't do it, and I did it, and

555
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,359
then I puked that shit out. And now I couldn't

556
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,759
have ribs for like five years.

557
00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:04,839
Speaker 4: Oh, everyone said the ball, Yeah, the.

558
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 5: Ball you ever did see? I couldn't eat ribs for

559
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,359
like five years.

560
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: I can eat ribs now, but I had a visceral

561
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,720
reaction to to like smoky barbecue sauce for years.

562
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: Like I'm feeling like even just thinking about the maca

563
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,279
cheese right now, my stomach is.

564
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: Stop thinking about it cheese.

565
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I will.

566
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am planning on like January, like okay, I

567
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,599
gotta actually start getting ready for the training for the

568
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,279
marathon stuff.

569
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:35,839
Speaker 2: So like I am seeing this, It's.

570
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:37,799
Speaker 3: Like, all right, I've got like a week left, a

571
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:40,480
week and a half to eat like an asshole, drink

572
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,240
and stuff, and then I might get pretty serious about it.

573
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:49,720
But for the holidays.

574
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 5: My body is really starting to go away. So I'm

575
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,880
thinking in two weeks might give up.

576
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Look, I've got a big resolution guy. I forgot about

577
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,480
that yet.

578
00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not New Year's resolution guy, but Traveling Smiths're

579
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,839
hosting a New Year's party all that stuff, you know, so,

580
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,200
oh god, I've also getting this thing. You get it

581
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,359
with the food poisoning, where like you wake up just

582
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,680
covered in sweat and like.

583
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: It's colder, like fever.

584
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because like bank walked, can we sleep with

585
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,680
the door open out to the outside and it's like

586
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160
six degrees outside wind chills, you know, cool, So it's

587
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,640
like we keep it cold as fuck in the room.

588
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:24,880
But like she'll walk in and be like, oh my god,

589
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,519
it's so cold, and I'll be like covered in sweat.

590
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,960
I assume that, Yeah, you.

591
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 5: Had a fever, bud, Yeah, yeah, for sure you.

592
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: Should tell The sweat is like often when the fever

593
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,799
breaks for a bit, like I always could.

594
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 5: My mom always said, but I don't. She won the doctor.

595
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,759
Speaker 4: But every time I go I broke my sweat, she'd

596
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:45,319
be like, oh, good, you broke your fever.

597
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,039
Speaker 2: Okay.

598
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:49,039
Speaker 5: I don't know why that that made me feel.

599
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Better that she said that, because your body is like

600
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,440
I don't know, I imagine it. You'd be your body like,

601
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,039
oh there's nothing left we need to kill by overheating

602
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:56,559
you so.

603
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: Well, I keep getting that feeling too, like after like

604
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,519
these were like violent, loud puking sessions where I'm just

605
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:05,640
like just it was crazy, and then and it feels

606
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359
like it was coming like out of my heart. It

607
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640
felt like like it was wretching like my heart and esophagus,

608
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359
like it was painful. And then afterwards, once it was

609
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,000
all out of me, I would just like kind of

610
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,279
almost collapse like next to the toilet and I would

611
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,759
just be sweaty and light headed. And that's the few

612
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:21,119
times I would be able to get some sleep. Is

613
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,400
right after a puke, I would.

614
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Lay down in my body.

615
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,599
Speaker 1: I was like God like yeah, yeah, broken battered bodies,

616
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:29,319
broken souls?

617
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,799
Speaker 2: Is that the wrestling term? That's something you heard once

618
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:33,559
that it's stuck with you.

619
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:36,319
Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing I've ever heard. What was that

620
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,759
was that announcer Jim Ross thing? Yeah, Jim Ross. Yeah,

621
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,079
he's like battered bodies, broken souls. Like that's why have

622
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,160
I not been watching wrestling my whole life? It's like

623
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Joy Shakespeare, Yeah, are you unless there's any more to

624
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,519
add for the food poisoning.

625
00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I'm grumbling, So just leave

626
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,000
the room without saying anything. It's all all back.

627
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: All thirty thousand listeners will know why you left now,

628
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,920
so you set it up correct.

629
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Well.

630
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,839
Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of wrestling, though, Dan, I sent you the

631
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,480
other day, I'm enjoying watching videos of this Stephen Flow

632
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,359
character in Chicago. Right, he's a He's just a grunge

633
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,960
theme wrestler in apparently Chicago area. And yeah, his theme

634
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,039
song is just even Flow. But it's not just that

635
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:29,079
they replaced even Flow in the chorus with Stephen Flow.

636
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,039
The song is just them saying Steven Flow over and

637
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:38,000
over to the rhythm flo. Yeah.

638
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:39,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good.

639
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: I can always tell when something breaks out of wrestling

640
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,039
nerddom and goes into the mainstream through like some about

641
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,960
a billion people are like, yeah, I'm gonna text the

642
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,640
wrestling guy. Yep, yeah that yep, Steven Flows.

643
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:51,839
Speaker 7: One.

644
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: There's the pizza Luigi Primo guy a couple of years ago,

645
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,160
like made a pizza.

646
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,759
Speaker 2: Well, uh yeah he killed the guy. Yeah, oh gotcha,

647
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:03,680
yeah yeah sick. Yeah yeah. Steven Flow definitely broke out

648
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,279
of that mold good for him? Yeah?

649
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,759
Speaker 1: Is he is that like an indie circuit he's in?

650
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he's not like a guy that you

651
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,200
would see on I mean maybe there's.

652
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: A whole dude whose theme is just an orange in

653
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:17,880
my hands are my pocket because I saw wet hot

654
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,279
American summer. So like if he can raise a legit superstar,

655
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,359
he's he's very acrobatic. Is he still doing stuff?

656
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

657
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, of course. Yeah, he's the coolest person I've

658
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,240
ever laid eyes on.

659
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,079
Speaker 2: He's very good.

660
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:36,079
Speaker 1: What else is New Holidays time? New Year's Dan, you're

661
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,480
doing your annual New Year's Eve party?

662
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: Yep? Doing that?

663
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,039
Speaker 3: Got a bunch people coming over for that. Do you

664
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:42,519
have Dad's coming up? You can make it out of

665
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:43,160
the hotel for that?

666
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,519
Speaker 2: Oh god? Yeah? Any updates on that?

667
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: We were all asking him frequently for updates, and so

668
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:51,319
I'll update you when something happens.

669
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,359
Speaker 2: Okay, there's no.

670
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's still in the hotel.

671
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: Just in the hotel, okay, yep, Yeah, that's just going

672
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,480
to be his home.

673
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: Apparently he had like a realtor visit, planned to look

674
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,559
at some stuff, and then he canceled the last second

675
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:06,319
because he said he was too busy. But he doesn't

676
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,079
have a job and doesn't leave the hotels, so I

677
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:09,200
don't know what the hell that means.

678
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: So uh, oh, your dad canceled because he was too busy.

679
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: That's real. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so we're all, yeah, yeah,

680
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:15,759
it's funny.

681
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: I've told this story on on you know, giant bombing

682
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,319
here and stuff, and see comments some people like this

683
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:24,400
seems like concerning. You should like It's like, yeah, like

684
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,599
the version you get on the podcast is like, oh,

685
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,039
so here's this weird thing that we're dealing with. Of course,

686
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:31,960
in real life it's like no real ass conversations about

687
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240
like do we need to like talk to him then?

688
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you guys gonna have like a intervention? I mean,

689
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,559
but it's about not having a house.

690
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,599
Speaker 3: We're wait to see if he figures him out. I'm

691
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,319
checking in on him all the time, others are checking

692
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:48,400
in on him all the time. We're not getting much

693
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,960
from him, but yeah, they're very real concern and so

694
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:52,759
I'm fine, I'm fine.

695
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'll figured out.

696
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,079
Speaker 3: I'll get serious aout of two and I'll get seriou

697
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,519
It's like, oh man, I just uh it's it's tough.

698
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: It is tough.

699
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,279
Speaker 4: Parents are tough, you know, because like their full ass

700
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:05,880
grown adults, and parents probably at no point like the

701
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,839
idea that as their children grow up, the children start

702
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,440
looking at the parent and being like, are you okay.

703
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: And the parents like, go fuck yourself.

704
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,359
Speaker 4: I fed you, I housed you, I took care of

705
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
you during your stupidest moments, and now you have the

706
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,839
audacity to ask me how long this milk has.

707
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 5: Been in the fridge. Get out of here.

708
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: This is a common thing that I think most people

709
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640
experience with their parents, because there is that point of

710
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:34,960
time when you start saying, well, you're getting a little

711
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,759
older now, and I am a little worried about you

712
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,119
leaving the oven on, you know, or like whatever. It

713
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,119
is that parents each have their own unique foibles that

714
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,079
make you a little worried. I have that with my

715
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,039
My dad started doing this weird sleep walking thing at

716
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,839
one stage in his life where he he fell down

717
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
the stairs in the middle of the night and he

718
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,680
doesn't remember it. So he woke up and must have

719
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,880
been walking around and made it to the stairs and

720
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,799
fell down them.

721
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:04,559
Speaker 5: And so it was a huge deal and he was

722
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:05,160
like I'm fine.

723
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,039
Speaker 4: I know when I'm walking downstairs and it's like, you,

724
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,720
absolutely the fuck do not because you fell down the stairs.

725
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,720
And he just relocated to a house with no stairs.

726
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,000
He calls it the final move, if you know what

727
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,920
I mean. And now he doesn't have any stairs, he

728
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,759
has to worry about it anymore. So he solved it

729
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:20,240
on his own.

730
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: He didn't need me.

731
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. I sleepwalk a lot. Yeah, maybe you should not.

732
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,599
We talked about this before.

733
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,039
Speaker 5: On the fourth floor of a building.

734
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,519
Speaker 1: Yet I'd have to get that's true. I would have

735
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,960
to there's a fire escape right out back of our bedroom.

736
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
I would have to get through a door first. I

737
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,000
don't know if I could do that in my sleep,

738
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,759
although I do a lot of specific stuff when i'm sleepwalking.

739
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,960
But I think I've figured it out. You've seen our apartment.

740
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
I think our bedroom is a bit bigger than it

741
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,640
needs to be. It's so big we're gonna add stuff

742
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,319
to it later, because like way back in the day,

743
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:53,960
it used to be a separate apartment that they busted

744
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,839
out the middle and made them, you know, condos, whatever

745
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240
you want to call it. I think the room is

746
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,039
so big that when I wake up in the middle

747
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,000
of the night from dreaming, I see shit happening on

748
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
the other side of the room, like shadows moving, because

749
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,920
it's so far away that I then freak out and

750
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400
think there's people in my room, in our room, and

751
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,359
then I turn lights on and like run out to

752
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720
the living room. Sometimes that happens like on a maybe

753
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,359
weekly basis. Really yeah, and I'm The funny thing is,

754
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,599
I'm usually fairly conscious, like I'm there. It slowly dawns

755
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,200
on me that I'm doing something weird.

756
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: So it's not like a sleep paralysis thing. It's not

757
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,880
like you wake up you can't.

758
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 7: Move and.

759
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:40,079
Speaker 2: Over the place, you can't do you No, I thought

760
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:46,400
about just firing off rounds left and right. No I don't.

761
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 5: It's kind of like Dan's father, like we joked in

762
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,759
but I am worried about you. I'm worried about Amanda

763
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:53,319
most of all.

764
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,079
Speaker 2: I don't.

765
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I would ever, cause again, I'm there.

766
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:03,200
It's not like it's completely or unconscious stuff. It's I'm

767
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:06,240
sort of present. I just need it's usually either Amanda

768
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,000
or me, who's like, wait a minute, what am I doing?

769
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,880
And I'm kind of embarrassed, so I go back to

770
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,719
the bedroom like I knew what I was doing. I

771
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,679
was in the first place. Yeah, it's a bit, go

772
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,239
back to sleep.

773
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: It's four. It's a bit.

774
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: That's the witching hour or or the place is haunted

775
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,400
and I'm actually onto something.

776
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: You need to get a gun.

777
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: The ghosts are gaslighting me. I need a ghost gun.

778
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920
It's that level from Future perfect where you have the

779
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,360
ghost gun and the real gun.

780
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be so fun to be a ghost. Would

781
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,159
love to be a ghost. Yeah, it would be really good.

782
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,079
Speaker 5: Sure has guns instead.

783
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Of yeah the steel Yeah, a separate gun, right.

784
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,119
Speaker 5: Gun for ghosts, but you actually shoot. Yeah, the neighbors

785
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,599
the ghost gun.

786
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish it could be a ghost, just like

787
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,920
I wish I could just go like flip a switch

788
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,079
and just be a ghost when I want to, and

789
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,199
then go back to just being a guy.

790
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: Go to John Drake's house and funk with him.

791
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,599
Speaker 3: I do go to John Drake first and foremost when

792
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,800
I think of just working with someone like he being

793
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,119
a ghost fucking with John Drake.

794
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: That's a sitcom.

795
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,679
Speaker 1: If you die, or I mean when you die, yeah,

796
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,840
I absolutely you will be a ghost.

797
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: I have no doubt about it.

798
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: You have too much fun resolved back here on Earth

799
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,039
that one lifetime cannot contain that, You'll be.

800
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just farting pooping.

801
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,079
Speaker 1: And everybody's underwear to convince them that they ship their pants.

802
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: Poop transparent just turns.

803
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're can mean a separate ghost toilet and ghost

804
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,159
bidet ghost toilet.

805
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, curly hates of Heaven. You will never see that.

806
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Peter's like, what are you doing here?

807
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,039
Speaker 1: Guy?

808
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,559
Speaker 2: Come on, you go to the gates. They're like, we

809
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:47,000
don't want to.

810
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,119
Speaker 5: I don't by requirements. Yeah, place wants to.

811
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Have no after life will take him. Yeah, ghost on Earth.

812
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,039
He's too bad ass for Hell and too too chaotic

813
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:03,519
for Heaven.

814
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: Too bad ass for Hell, Satan says all the time. Yeah, sorry, Bud,

815
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,719
but you're just a little too bad ass for Hell.

816
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get that tattoo across my belly button like

817
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,960
a gothic font for Hell.

818
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 2: Number four the god get my way out, too bad

819
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,440
ass for Hell.

820
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, funk my way out of Heaven. Shat my way

821
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:35,239
out of Hell. Yeah, we got, we got, we gotta.

822
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:37,840
Someone's I hope someone's writing down these bumper stickers because

823
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,719
we got a lot of Oh.

824
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta get in that bumper sticker business. We

825
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:41,159
had that idea.

826
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:45,159
Speaker 1: Funcked my way out of heaven the angels. It ran

827
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,079
trained through all the angels. Then I got bored.

828
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 5: Get him out of here.

829
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:52,199
Speaker 2: Cribs at night.

830
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 5: If you if you hear a soft fart in your crib,

831
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,719
know that it was us.

832
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about video games? Yeah?

833
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: Sure?

834
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:11,639
Speaker 1: Oh god, she's got the hell. Yeah, God, God, I'm

835
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:16,880
just gonna start hurling. God, oh Mary, that's cool, that's

836
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,440
so mean.

837
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:23,559
Speaker 5: Look at how gooey. There's a clear hole.

838
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: So fucked up.

839
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: It's discussing me and I didn't just hurl my insides

840
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,079
out from Okay, we gotta stop.

841
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna puke.

842
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,079
Speaker 1: No, no, this is actually I can't tell this is

843
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,000
funny or fucked up. Yeah, all right, let's come back.

844
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:46,800
Let's go all right. If you're just joining on the yeah, alright, okay.

845
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:47,159
Speaker 2: We'd been back.

846
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: If you're not watching the video version, Mary has donned

847
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,199
the aforementioned macaroni sweatshirt. And it's even through these like cameras.

848
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,199
It's real detailed. It's like they put a Night Seen

849
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,480
twenty by ten eighty jpeg onto a hoodie. God, uh,

850
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,559
it's it's and Dan's got a thing over his face

851
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:09,679
because you can't look at this is kind of fucked up.

852
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: That is I'm not kidding. That is making my stomach.

853
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: It's really really delay.

854
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 5: Do you need to change out of it?

855
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,639
Speaker 7: Dan?

856
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm a big boy. No, I'm a big boy.

857
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,079
Make me sick.

858
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: It is a gross sweater, like I think it really

859
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,199
it's gone out of its way, Like how look how

860
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,000
shiny they made all the cheese?

861
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,519
Speaker 3: Sure didn't they? I don't show us your pits, pitt

862
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,760
macaroni and cheese. About to say macari heard me, but

863
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,199
it's been attacking me for a year now.

864
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: But they got nude.

865
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Beaches oh before Yeah, the French babes don't shave their pits.

866
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Line just made me, uh reminded me? Have I told

867
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,559
you guys, we're watching through all the James Bond movies,

868
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:57,119
like I got the Blu Ray collection finally.

869
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,679
Speaker 5: Why would that make you think of that?

870
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Uh? French babes, I don't know. All the women are

871
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,480
just items like objects.

872
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,079
Speaker 5: That's just such a clear line from Home Alone and you're.

873
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,519
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I said that, and then you did a

874
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,199
home Alone line. But then I heard about French babes

875
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,559
not shaving the pits. It reminded me of all the

876
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,880
women in bikinis and James Bond And I haven't told

877
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,840
you we're rewatching these.

878
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Have you seen like the early all of them.

879
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:19,519
Speaker 3: I've only seen like the Brasen and like half the

880
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,039
craig Ones. You got to stop doing that.

881
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: Mary sucks.

882
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: If wait with this, it looks like I'm putting my

883
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,079
hand in in a noodle.

884
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: That's okay, hear me out.

885
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 5: That's how you get out of heaven.

886
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: Bad for the camera probably, but anyway, I don't. Yeah,

887
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,119
we watched Doctor No and From Russia with Love. It's

888
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,119
crazy how slow these movies were.

889
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: That's why I struggled to go back because I was like,

890
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,519
you know, I love Golden Eye on the Bras and

891
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:00,639
Ones and st Up and I was like, oh, I've

892
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,119
heard Connor is the best. And I saw like gold

893
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:05,199
Finger and I was like, okay, I appreciate that, like

894
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,239
oh that's where doctor Evil comes from or whatever, but

895
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,079
like it wasn't like that was.

896
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,159
Speaker 2: Like Russia would love. Oh okay, well what about one?

897
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: You could see a million like you know, references and

898
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Simpsons bits and stuff that came from these movies.

899
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: But it's like I didn't find it like super exciting.

900
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, I always forget that Robert Shaw was the

901
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,320
Russian the Specter assassin trained to kill him too, which

902
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,639
is just funny seeing him when he's not Quint Jaws.

903
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, we're rewatching them. It's like Doctor No.

904
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,320
The first movie.

905
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,639
Speaker 1: Holy shit, it was slow, really, and then out of nowhere,

906
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,239
someone gets burned alive and you watch the whole thing.

907
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,199
It's it's a very weirdly paced series. And then of course,

908
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,280
like even like Pierce Brasen era, they they upped the

909
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,280
action a lot.

910
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 2: They went from being these like.

911
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,119
Speaker 1: Merely these spy thrillers with some kind of shitty action

912
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,440
sequences to all of a sudden, the most finely choreographed

913
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,039
fight scenes in any movies ever with Daniel Craig. The

914
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,840
Pierce Brosn't set pieces gets crazier and crazier, and then

915
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,719
til he's fucking driving a Lamborghini through an ice palace.

916
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, in top of a car invisible car.

917
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 7: Yeah.

918
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:11,079
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought it was a Lamborghini,

919
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,199
but anyway, we're playing those.

920
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,559
Speaker 2: Speaking of.

921
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Old movies, I've been playing Indie in Indiana Jones and

922
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,840
the Great.

923
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 5: Show so nice.

924
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think?

925
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I just got to Giza, the second big area. I

926
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:28,719
like it a lot, However, I don't think I'm could

927
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,840
finish it. It just made me want to re download

928
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,079
all the Dishonored games.

929
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,039
Speaker 2: It's great.

930
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: I love that Machine Games went this route and did

931
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:37,639
not feel the need to just make a shooter. I

932
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840
have not fired my gun once and I'm in like

933
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,920
a or seven hours in Because there's like the interstitial stuff.

934
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,519
I think the moment to moment gameplay is pretty clunky,

935
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440
especially like some of the platforming stuff you're doing. It's

936
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,679
not heavy platforming, but when you're going up certain ledges

937
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,639
just doesn't feel great. I also think I love scouring

938
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,199
the environment and the environmental storytelling. That's why I'm playing it,

939
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,920
and the main story is actually has me pretty hooked.

940
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,760
I think it's done a good job of that. But

941
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:10,280
there's just something like after I've crouch walked through my

942
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,400
for my sixth hour and I'm just bonking Nazis over

943
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,079
the head with any number of items, which is fun.

944
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,679
The novelty has worn off, sure, and it just made

945
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,039
me want to play Dishonored, in which any within any

946
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,559
given five minutes, I could warp to someone in like

947
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,159
inhabit their body, go kill their friend, and then jump

948
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:28,800
off a ledge as them, and then go back to

949
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,159
my body. There's yeah, and it's it's unfair to just

950
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000
I'm not like outright comparing them, but obviously there's some

951
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:40,159
immersive sim inspiration in Indy. I it has led me

952
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:42,400
to replay Dishonored, and those games are still really fucking good.

953
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,159
I'm playing the first one's definitive edition on PS five.

954
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,920
I think it's a PS four game, but I'm playing

955
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,559
it on PS five.

956
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:51,199
Speaker 3: I think it's just interesting that it even took that

957
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,960
approach to it. I like, I think Indy is more

958
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,119
interesting than it had any right to be, or that

959
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,079
I think anybody could have recentably expected it to be.

960
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,760
I do share some of the planes, Like, I think

961
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,880
a lot of the strengths are in the presentation, the

962
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719
way they use the license, some of the exploration stuff,

963
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,039
like really doing like Indiana doing shit throughout the game.

964
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,000
But like, yeah, clunky is a good word for a

965
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,400
lot of the stuff. And I'm with you on like

966
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,320
you know, it is very fun to sneak up on

967
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,800
these Nazis and just beat the shit out of them

968
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,599
with a frying pan. But you do that like fifty

969
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,119
sixty seventy times, you know. And I did get to

970
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,920
a point where I think I stopped playing it. I

971
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,840
think I'm done with it. It's still in my top

972
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,079
ten of the year. I liked a lot, but I

973
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,280
got to a point. Slight spoilers here, mostly gameplay or

974
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,199
if anybody wants to mute or anything. Yeah, I got

975
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:35,840
the point.

976
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Where it's like, yeah, I like, oh, yeah, we have

977
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:38,599
people listening.

978
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yah, we're recording this. Yeah yeah, yeah. I saw

979
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719
that the game was like, you know, twelve fourteen hours long.

980
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,360
It looks like I had like maybe two or three

981
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,559
hours left in the game. And its basically this thing

982
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:50,000
where it's like you take a boat up to a

983
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:51,800
pyramid and you have to get inside the pyramid, and

984
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,000
to do it, you have to like go underwater, and

985
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,039
there's just a big ass snake, like a giant like anaconda,

986
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,280
and you know, it's a go indie he hates yeah,

987
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,000
and this is like the biggest snake you've ever seen,

988
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,639
and it's like a I hate underwater sequences and I

989
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,199
hate stealth sequences, and I hate especially hate stell sequences

990
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,519
where it's like insta fail if you get caught, and

991
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,840
so it's like it's all of these things doing that.

992
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it keeps.

993
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:17,639
Speaker 3: Going for a while because I was like, you know what,

994
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,119
I'm enjoying this game. I've died like ten times through

995
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,880
some horse shit here. I'll keep trying. I'll keep trying,

996
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:24,679
and then it would just keep going and I'd be like,

997
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:26,000
all right, I just got to get past this part.

998
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,440
I'm sure I'll be on solid ground soon. I don't

999
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,679
have to worry about this fucking snake And it's just

1000
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,320
like I probably died like twenty times, and it's just

1001
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,679
like you're just swimming through stuff. It's kind of hard

1002
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,760
to see things and keep track of where you're going,

1003
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,960
and then all of a sudden you see this like

1004
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,840
red ring pop up Snakey Too makes the same music

1005
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,000
stinger every time back at the beginning. I just got

1006
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,440
to that point where it's like, you know what, I

1007
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,400
think I've seen what this game does. I think I

1008
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000
appreciate it for what it does, and I can definitely

1009
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,760
speak to it. I've probably played eighty plus percent of

1010
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,159
the game. At this point, I think I'm good. So

1011
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,639
I did stop playing, and it's just like that sequence

1012
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,079
was rough for me. I did not enjoy that at all.

1013
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:06,199
But I also still have an overall, you know, very

1014
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,039
positive feeling about that game, but.

1015
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 4: Just didn't So you quit because of a snake, which

1016
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,360
is pretty sertificant in a twelve to fourteen hour game.

1017
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I kind of was at the point

1018
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,079
anyway where I was ready to just kind of get

1019
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,079
to the end, you know, because it was like I

1020
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:21,400
was going on this pyramid. I was like, all right,

1021
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,960
there's just I can see what's gonna happen here. There's

1022
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,280
gonna be a bunch of puzzles and stuff, and I've

1023
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,960
done a ton of them in this game already. They're fine,

1024
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,400
you know, they're good. So I was ready to be

1025
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,079
done anyway. And I think just that being a very

1026
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:34,519
annoying sequence. If I was loving the game and I

1027
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:36,719
wanted to keep going forever, I wouldn't have let the

1028
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,400
sequence stop me. I would have pushed through it. But

1029
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:40,440
it's like, this is just great, I'm good, I'll move

1030
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,079
on to something else.

1031
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,119
Speaker 1: Is that like the In terms of big areas, there's

1032
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,199
the Vatican there's Giza.

1033
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: What's after that, Oh, the the Himalayas, the like snowy area,

1034
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,360
which is that's a really cool area. It's not it's

1035
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,119
not like a super long open thing, but it's a

1036
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,440
it's a cool set piece area.

1037
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: And all back to the beginning of Raiders, he's in

1038
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:03,840
the mountains when he sees what's her name the bartender right.

1039
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: All right, right in the fire and all that stuff. Yeah,

1040
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,440
it's like yeah, and then it's like, I'm going to

1041
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,079
say this perfectly pronunciated. It's like Suku Thai or something.

1042
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,519
I think it's I don't know if it's like Thailand

1043
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,639
or Shanghai or something. It's just like it's a jungle

1044
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:21,800
boat going around snakes. Sounds more like village kind of

1045
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,320
looks like, you know, like Pocalypse now when they get

1046
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920
to those villages near the end. But yeah, just going

1047
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,280
down the river and then you get to a pyramid

1048
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,719
and stuff.

1049
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,079
Speaker 5: So such a beautiful movie.

1050
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:33,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but yeah, great game. But I was I

1051
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,360
was ready to be done by the end.

1052
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,119
Speaker 5: Okay, well, I mean good game pass game.

1053
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a really good game pass game for sure.

1054
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: Pick the wrong month to quick game pass.

1055
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:50,599
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, yeah, there's other stuff real buck.

1056
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,000
Astro has a Christmas level that's out and it's it's

1057
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:58,000
pretty substantial. It utilizes Yeah, it's it's really cute. It's

1058
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,960
obviously just superfessedive and there's just some million little jingle

1059
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
bills and stuff that you can spin through and send

1060
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,760
flying everywhere. There's like seven new bots to get from

1061
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,159
different PlayStation games. There's like fifteen presents to find, and

1062
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,599
then you have access to all of the different like

1063
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,599
here's the frog box and gloves, here's the shrink power here,

1064
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,480
So like you can go around and utilize all that

1065
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:19,920
stuff in this one big like festive Wonderland level, big

1066
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Christmas tree, that big jolly thing with a face, and

1067
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,000
it's it's everything you would want an Astro Christmas level

1068
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:30,880
to be. What playing Oh Gex and Kroc and Tamba

1069
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,400
GaX isn't in the base game? No, no X, Kroc, Tamba.

1070
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,239
I think there might be a hell Diver in there.

1071
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000
I'm not sure what is from Tamba.

1072
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh, what's what's per rap of the Wrapper from?

1073
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 5: I thought you guys were just making up words.

1074
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,679
Speaker 3: What's Donkey Kong from Mario? I guess technically Mario is

1075
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:52,320
from Donkey Kong.

1076
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I know more about Mario than Dan does?

1077
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:03,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, rubbing her macaroni jpeg.

1078
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Well that's fun.

1079
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:07,519
Speaker 2: That's nice.

1080
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Are they like, is there a roadmap out? Are they

1081
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,679
going to continue pushing stuff out DLC wise.

1082
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: For a while?

1083
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: I think the only thing they really announced early on

1084
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,639
was that they were going to do the speed run levels,

1085
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,119
and then I didn't know until I saw the team,

1086
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,960
the Temasobie team at the Game Awards and they told

1087
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,679
me like, by the way, there's Christmas level coming out,

1088
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,679
and I figure, like the next day or something, it

1089
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,920
was out. So I don't think they're announcing stuff like

1090
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,679
very far ahead of time, you know. Okay, I hope

1091
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,199
they do more. I mean, I just I want a

1092
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,320
sequel at this point. I very much want that. But yeah,

1093
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,679
I'll take anything I can get with that game.

1094
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,639
Speaker 2: It's a fun game.

1095
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 4: It's great that they're continuing to update it too, especially

1096
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,920
from all the hype from winning Game of the Year

1097
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,440
and congrats to them for taking home.

1098
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,199
Speaker 5: The big prize, you know.

1099
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,159
Speaker 4: I mean, Game of the Year is still quite coveted,

1100
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,920
and it's cool to see a team that I think.

1101
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: I think it's a nice Cinderella story.

1102
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,159
Speaker 4: Considering that as a team originally was like, we're playing

1103
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,920
with tech for the PlayStation, and we're just an internal

1104
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,440
team that wants to have fun with this sick ass controllers,

1105
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,039
So we're gonna have a lot of fun here. But

1106
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:17,559
they made a game that was so smooth and so

1107
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:21,559
polished and fun that it ended up being their gody.

1108
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:23,079
Speaker 5: I just think that's great. It's so good for them.

1109
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

1110
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic, And you know how I feel

1111
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,639
about that game, So to see any success or praise

1112
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,840
go its way, I love seeing so very I think.

1113
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 5: That's great, so good for them.

1114
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: I looked as forward to seeing what like the next

1115
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,599
thing they have in store, because I think maybe now

1116
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:41,280
that they've made a full fledged Astrobot with all the

1117
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,400
bells and whistles, will they branch out and make something.

1118
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,039
Speaker 5: New is what I'd be interested in.

1119
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,639
Speaker 3: I think what I want, and I think would probably

1120
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:52,159
be likely considering the success is an Astrobot sequel, And

1121
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,920
I think that since this was the big everything about

1122
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,119
this story and the way it ended and all the

1123
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:00,880
bots was so PlayStation nostallger centric, I would think that

1124
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,239
the sequel, you know, Okay, well, we've done the PlayStation,

1125
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,360
you know, Bonanza, Let's just have Astrobot to have his

1126
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,480
own adventure that's not necessarily as super tight, like maybe

1127
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:12,440
still flies around the controller stuff like that, but like

1128
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,719
maybe not collecting one hundred and seventy PlayStation characters or

1129
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,159
stuff like that.

1130
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I'm interested in whatever they

1131
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:19,639
do next.

1132
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I want it would be great to have an equivalent

1133
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,119
of Astrobot for like every major publisher. Nintendo does that

1134
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,679
stuff all the time, but like, yeah, it'd be cool

1135
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,559
to have like an Xbox thing. Yeah.

1136
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, you got Halo, you got Gears,

1137
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,519
like a bunch of Forts of Cars. I mean, you

1138
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:41,960
can do the deep cuts and stuff. There's all the

1139
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,280
like originally Blood Wake and you know, Crimson Skies and stuff,

1140
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,039
but like it's not as like mascot heavy. I guess

1141
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:52,039
you could do like Abe's Odyssey and stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah, because.

1142
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: They were always trying to go like more mature sort

1143
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,840
of from the beginning with their post racing.

1144
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a master tat from day one, you.

1145
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Know, just every place from Flight Simulator.

1146
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there with their little robot butts shaken yeah,

1147
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,360
they're trying to make them as cute as humanly possible,

1148
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,800
but it's just all like animatronic items.

1149
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,519
Speaker 1: That Ox got cake.

1150
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,559
Speaker 5: I've been playing Bollionaire. Have you heard of this game?

1151
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: I know if that was a ty no, I have not.

1152
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:27,559
I put it in all cats so that.

1153
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 5: It would be clear.

1154
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1155
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: So I found out about this because the developer who

1156
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,119
made Blatro tweeted that he was playing it and he

1157
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,400
was like, this is a great game, and I hope

1158
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,960
more people hear about it. And there was something about

1159
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,039
the trailer that I saw that I thought kind of

1160
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,800
had Bilatro type mechanics where you're building a deck per se.

1161
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:55,039
But Bollionaire is not a card game. It is a

1162
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,519
plinko game. I don't know if that's actually what you call.

1163
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: It, but where you drop the ball, but you're not

1164
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,639
like picking where you drop it. It always comes from

1165
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:04,559
the same center thing.

1166
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:08,639
Speaker 4: The ball always hits the top of a triangle. And

1167
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,639
then your deck is all the different things you put

1168
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,159
in the triangle that your ball can hit, and if

1169
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:20,840
it hits it, you make money and you have to

1170
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,960
solve for how much money you make each round. I

1171
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,800
think you get five ball drops and the first round

1172
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,880
it's like, hey, you need to make five hundred dollars,

1173
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,039
and so every time you dink something, maybe you get

1174
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:36,440
five bucks, maybe you get twenty. Hopefully you can make

1175
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:40,800
something where it just keeps hitting the same clinker multiple times,

1176
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,880
and so you end up making like three or four

1177
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,840
hundred dollars off of one ball drop. But the amount

1178
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,559
that you have to make adds very quickly, and so

1179
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:52,199
by like the fourth or fifth round, you have to

1180
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,639
make one hundred thousand dollars. And so it's all about

1181
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,639
building your Plinko deck to make sure that the balls

1182
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,960
are hitting something that actually adds to the other things

1183
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,079
that you've added. And that sounds very complicated, So let

1184
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:05,760
me give you an example, because this is how I

1185
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,679
did it. I learned that each time you finish a ball,

1186
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
it lets you add another Plinko into your triangle.

1187
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,639
Speaker 5: You get to pick something.

1188
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: So maybe it's a tree that every time you hit

1189
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,280
it it makes you money, but the tree gains currency

1190
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:20,880
each day.

1191
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 5: It grows like an actual tree.

1192
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: And so if you survive today twenty in this game,

1193
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,559
now it's now it's like worth hundreds of dollars every

1194
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,599
time you plink it there's other ones I think are

1195
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:36,239
really fascinating because they interact with other plinkos. So there's

1196
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,719
one that lets you every time if you touch it,

1197
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,199
it takes it with it. It like basically like it

1198
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,079
carries it on its back. And now you have an

1199
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:50,960
item with you. And if you touch another one while

1200
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,000
you're carrying the thing that you were carrying, sorry, it

1201
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,960
makes a second. It makes a second Plinko ball, So

1202
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,880
now you have multi ball. I know this sounds kind

1203
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,039
of weird, but it's all themed as it is silly looking,

1204
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:07,239
and I will say it's like rudimentary like in the

1205
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,880
UI and the design of the menu is like this,

1206
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,719
this was made by one person.

1207
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: This is like clearly like UI art, but it's it's fine.

1208
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:17,119
It gets the job done.

1209
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,079
Speaker 4: What I enjoyed the most was finding commonalities between different plinkos.

1210
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,360
An example would be that I found that if you

1211
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
carry a cash register and then you hit an item

1212
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,079
while you were carrying a cash register, you release a coin,

1213
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,920
which is essentially another plinko, and the coins would make

1214
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:35,800
money if you could but get them at a piggy bank,

1215
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,760
and the piggy banks would accrew money over time, and

1216
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,159
so by the end of this game, and the reason

1217
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:42,119
I ended up winning this game was because I had

1218
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,960
so many goddamn coins in my piggy bank. My piggy

1219
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,320
banks were giving me twenty thousand dollars per round, and

1220
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,519
so I was rich as fuck because of these piggy banks.

1221
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:53,000
But took me like seven or eight goes at this

1222
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:57,800
game to discover all of these connections between the plinkos

1223
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,000
and actually and actually.

1224
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 5: Getting it done.

1225
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,119
Speaker 3: I think that that I could tell that was going

1226
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:02,440
to be the case is that you have to like

1227
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:04,840
play it, you know, get through a few runs for

1228
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,599
to click, because like I was playing it on a

1229
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,519
plane and it was just you know, I'm playing.

1230
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: I just like turn my brain off.

1231
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 5: And sure it is a very turn off game, like

1232
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:13,440
you can just plank.

1233
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: Away once you learn it, because like when I was

1234
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,719
starting it on a plane, it was very much like,

1235
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,320
all right, the block of cheese does this and these

1236
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,719
if I hit it from underneath, this does this and

1237
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,559
stuff and everything like this seems cool, but I just

1238
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:26,079
don't want to think it all on this flight, and

1239
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:27,519
so I just love the Vampire Survivors.

1240
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 5: But that's funny.

1241
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: Curious to play more of Baillionaire, I did like the

1242
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:31,760
whole vibe of it.

1243
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 4: I encourage you to play it another round and like

1244
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,960
play around with the idea that like, uh, because it's

1245
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,920
a triangle and because the ball drops in the same

1246
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,840
spot each way, your's like my main hint, the very

1247
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:48,320
top of the triangle is your juice. If you put

1248
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,800
something there that your ball will now carry, you are guaranteed.

1249
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 5: To make multi ball. If that makes sense.

1250
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: Okay, you can game the system a little bit by saying, Hey,

1251
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,320
the top of my triangle is going to be a chicken,

1252
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,559
and every time you hit it, it's going to release eggs,

1253
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,519
and then the eggs will become food, and then the

1254
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:09,039
food will become my main income for that round. And

1255
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,360
it's I think it's fun. I do not think that

1256
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,079
this is of blatro status. The Bolotro dev tweeted it,

1257
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:17,800
and I was like, oh shit, If Bolotro loved it,

1258
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,960
this must be a fucking banger. I think it's a

1259
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,039
fun way to waste some time. I don't think this

1260
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:25,199
is an expensive game. You can tell this is a

1261
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,199
kind of single dev situation. But for people who are

1262
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,960
Plinko fans, if you are like, hey, I just kind

1263
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,679
of want to connect weird components in a Plinko machine.

1264
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,119
Speaker 2: This is for you.

1265
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,159
Speaker 4: I think this is a fun game to waste some

1266
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,039
time and play around with, but again rudimentary, especially the

1267
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,920
menu design. The text is weirdly small, and I found

1268
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,639
that I had to like look like an old grandma

1269
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:50,280
where I was like what does that say? And I

1270
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,159
was like kind of trying to zoom in on the game.

1271
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:57,000
But it was a delightful game that I played throughout

1272
00:56:57,199 --> 00:57:01,360
my Game Awards prots. When I wasn't working or attending

1273
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,480
the Game wards. I played this in my hotel room.

1274
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,239
It took me about seven tries to beat it. I've

1275
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,159
played it about I've done about fifteen rounds, maybe twenty now,

1276
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,360
and I've I've beat it three times now that i've

1277
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,920
not I've solved how to make money. So yeah, I

1278
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,159
think it's fun. I actually think it was a cute game,

1279
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:21,480
but definitely a more simple experience.

1280
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,719
Speaker 3: Kind of reminds me of like almost like that Peglin

1281
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,440
you know, where it's like, Okay, here's you know, we

1282
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,800
take a couple ideas from other games and it's kind

1283
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,440
of a low production thing, but it's you know, a fun.

1284
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: Hook to it.

1285
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: It's a good like a good indie dev situation where

1286
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,000
you're like, this is a good concept, and I can

1287
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:40,400
see why it has legs.

1288
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 5: Is everything are all the bells and whistles?

1289
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,559
Speaker 1: There?

1290
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,119
Speaker 5: No, But you can understand the game, and I think

1291
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:46,119
you can have fun with it.

1292
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,559
Speaker 4: And I absolutely agree with you because I was one

1293
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:52,239
hundred percent hooked on Peglin. I think Peglin is a

1294
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,360
fantastic I think Peglin is better than this game in

1295
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,960
the sense that it's got like those RPG mechanics and you're.

1296
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,639
Speaker 5: Like growing your character over time.

1297
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,559
Speaker 4: Like I'm a huge Peglin advocate, but I think Ballionaire

1298
00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:05,239
is just an easy way to like spend an hour

1299
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,440
and play around with these building mechanics. If you have

1300
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:12,840
the right things together, crazy shit happens, and it's fun

1301
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,679
to watch balls drop.

1302
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh right and timely.

1303
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 5: That's right. I've got the perfect New Year game.

1304
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,519
Speaker 3: It's a Ballionaire to everyone do that at midnight and years,

1305
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:27,480
I'm canceling the party.

1306
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 5: Ball drop your balls all at the same time.

1307
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

1308
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a I've been playing a lot more metaphor,

1309
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,400
I don't have a ton more to say that I

1310
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,480
didn't during our Game of Year episode. Uh my my uh,

1311
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,559
criticis not criticism, my praise for how often it shakes

1312
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:50,840
up its own structure and pacing that stands. In fact,

1313
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,280
I honestly think this game like raises the bar pretty

1314
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,159
substantially for like long form Japanese role playing games.

1315
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 7: Uh.

1316
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,039
Speaker 1: It's every big dungeon I get to, it's like a

1317
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:05,360
whole new like consideration and prep that I have to do.

1318
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,960
And then I'm also just really enjoying the more archetypes

1319
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:10,679
classes I on lock. Combining all those it's a it's

1320
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:12,840
a great game. I still am liking it a lot.

1321
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 5: I'm glad, and then I'm still liking it. How far

1322
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,360
in it are you? Just for context, because it's not a.

1323
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:23,239
Speaker 1: S game, No, I want to say, I don't know

1324
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,719
that our count it's got to be at least fifty.

1325
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,599
I'm fourth major Dune, fifth major dungeon Palace whatever you

1326
00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:35,400
want to call them dungeon. So I'm far in and

1327
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,599
I've got you know, I've got you know, more party

1328
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:40,360
members than I can put in one party. But it's

1329
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,960
a yeah, enjoying it quite a bit.

1330
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

1331
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:47,119
Speaker 1: And then only other thing I have played Warhammer Three's

1332
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:52,039
newest dlc omens of destruction and it's fun. They they

1333
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:57,239
reworked some factions. I won't go into super detail. Oh

1334
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,840
I thought, Dan left to go it rose for a

1335
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,000
second puke or something?

1336
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:03,199
Speaker 5: Is this about the mac and cheese?

1337
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna turn off Mary's camera here soon.

1338
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:11,039
Speaker 1: Yep. But yeah, No, Warhammer Three's good streak of DLC

1339
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:14,480
is ongoing after that clusterfuck. That was a shadows of

1340
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:18,400
change about a year and a half ago. Dan, you've

1341
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,519
been playing Marvel Rivals, which is surprising.

1342
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I normally wouldn't have Well, right,

1343
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,400
I had the same thought. No, we did it for

1344
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:26,840
a stream.

1345
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,039
Speaker 3: You know.

1346
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: That's a great thing about I've heard good things to

1347
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:29,559
be clear.

1348
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have to.

1349
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,079
Speaker 5: But I just it's not a this podcast game, right, It's.

1350
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: Part of what's fun about, you know, working in like

1351
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:40,960
Giant Bomb for a living, because like I might get

1352
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:42,920
exposed to stuff I would never seek out myself. And

1353
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,280
it's like we decided to do a stream of it,

1354
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,599
like a big multiplayer one, like sure, all I'll hop

1355
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:49,760
in and skeptical at first because like I'm not even

1356
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,559
a huge like Overwatch guy, Like I liked it for

1357
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:53,159
like fifty hours when it first came out, but I

1358
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:55,400
haven't really thought about hero shooters since then, and I

1359
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,440
don't give a fuck about Marvel, So it's like this

1360
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,280
doesn't sound like something for me at all. And it's

1361
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,760
not like I'm gonna go nuts and play this like

1362
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,519
I play cod all the time or anything, But like,

1363
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,039
I really did appreciate what it's doing. I think there

1364
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,840
were a lot of like really fun powers that all

1365
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,519
the different characters had, and it made me realize that, Like,

1366
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:14,639
it made me think a lot about hero shooters in

1367
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,519
twenty twenty four going into twenty twenty five, because obviously

1368
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:20,360
with Concord this year being that big story and the

1369
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,519
failure there and a lot of what you heard was like, oh.

1370
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know, hero shooters.

1371
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:26,679
Speaker 3: This was started developing when hero shooters were supposed to

1372
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:28,159
be the next big thing, and now it's just there's

1373
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:31,480
not that appetite for it. But that failed and people

1374
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,920
are really liking Marvel Rivals. So is it maybe just that, like, Okay,

1375
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:38,800
they made a good one of these. It's free to

1376
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,440
play and has a bunch of recognizable ip with Marvel,

1377
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,119
like they just kind of did it right, Whereas Concord

1378
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,679
was like a new ip no one knew, and then

1379
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:49,920
they like charged for it. So maybe it was just

1380
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,079
it's not that people won't give a hero shooter a

1381
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:56,400
shot nowadays, it's that just the whole launch of that

1382
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,159
was bungled. You know, the whole marketing was very bad

1383
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:02,360
of that game. So yeah, con Card did not have

1384
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,280
much of an identity.

1385
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:04,039
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1386
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: It's like Marvel Rivals, No, Marvel Overwatch, Like that's an

1387
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,960
easy sell and then it's free to play. You can

1388
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,320
picture a lot of people it's been like, yeah, I'll

1389
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,199
give it a shot, whereas like Concord's like, here's this

1390
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,800
thing you've never really heard of and you don't know

1391
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,039
what it is or how it stands out.

1392
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:17,199
Speaker 2: Also give us forty dollars to try it. It's like,

1393
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,599
that's such a harder cell.

1394
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: It's ampossible sell when Overwatch is there. And I think, like, ultimately,

1395
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,119
I actually think Overwatch is the bigger killer because Overwatch

1396
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,000
people have had lots of time to hear about it

1397
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:30,639
and learn about it, and it's free.

1398
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: So how are you comp You can't compete?

1399
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, I guess I was just surprised

1400
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,360
by how much fun I had with it, you know,

1401
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,320
finding your character where it's gonna You start with like

1402
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,280
punish crews, a very simple just kind of like shooting

1403
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,199
like Soldier seventy six type guy, and then I saw,

1404
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,119
you know, I would fight like some Iron Man on

1405
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:50,280
the other team and see them flying around shooting lasers

1406
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,480
and stuff, and it's like, oh, that looks fun.

1407
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:54,039
Speaker 2: I realized I was really good with Ironman. So it's okay.

1408
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:54,880
I think I found my guy.

1409
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,199
Speaker 3: That's really fun. But again, probably not gonna, you know,

1410
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,440
put fifty one hundred hours into it. But you know,

1411
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:02,360
if we did another stream on Giant Blomb or something,

1412
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,199
I would happily jump in and not be skeptical because

1413
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:07,039
it turns out it's actually quite fun.

1414
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:11,159
Speaker 5: I feel like everybody's sharing the Shark guy. I don't

1415
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:11,639
know who that is.

1416
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,199
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal with that dude is.

1417
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 5: Everybody likes that shark guy or likes to hate that

1418
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,280
shark guy.

1419
01:03:18,519 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 3: I don't know's I see him in a lot of matches.

1420
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:24,519
Nicky Grayson was the shark on our team and ate

1421
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:26,599
me and Minati and barfed us off of a cliff

1422
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:27,719
and killed us accidentally.

1423
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: So that's cool.

1424
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 5: It can do that pretty that's pretty cool.

1425
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, barfed you up like back and cheese.

1426
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 5: When I play uh.

1427
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: When when I play Yoshi Uh in the competitive I

1428
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,960
always try and swallow people and poop them out over

1429
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,760
the ledge as an egg.

1430
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: It's a classic yep, yep.

1431
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,239
Speaker 5: It's my only move. So once they find out that

1432
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,119
that's my move and I'm I'm in deep shit.

1433
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: Mine is DKA and I grabbed them and I just

1434
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,400
like walk off the edge and I just like drag

1435
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:55,840
them to their doom along with me.

1436
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm a shark girl too. Then I just like

1437
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,400
to I usually learn one.

1438
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: Move and then I say, once you guys figure me out,

1439
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,639
there's a short chess match.

1440
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: I have one move. It's kind of your thing, so

1441
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,679
we better get used to it. Yeah, no, thumbs up,

1442
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:14,079
it's good.

1443
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,559
Speaker 1: I'm glad Mary you're playing Rocket League again. And hell

1444
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:19,920
Divers too, well, you probably never stopped, but you wrote

1445
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,880
them down this time, so it must be substantial.

1446
01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 5: They're connected.

1447
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:27,039
Speaker 4: So when Game Awards happened, Hell Divers had an update

1448
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,920
and the update was a new faction, which we've been

1449
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,039
waiting for for a long time.

1450
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 5: There's a bit of a war that is important.

1451
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 4: Yes, so they've been teasing this for a while, but

1452
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,360
I think there already was an alien, so there's essentially

1453
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,159
like there's bugs and robots, and then they would keep

1454
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:48,480
teasing that something else was coming. Yes, laser stuff there

1455
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,519
was like and it just kind of we never heard

1456
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,639
anything for such a long time that I think it

1457
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:58,320
kind of the the tension dissipated. It was just like whatever,

1458
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:00,639
like release it or don't. Guys, like we're sick of

1459
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,480
these laser conversations. Like there's only so much you can

1460
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,519
build on Reddit about this. So I think I ended

1461
01:05:06,599 --> 01:05:08,440
up kind of fading off a little bit. But the

1462
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:12,719
Game Awards they revealed the new faction, which is sure aliens,

1463
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,280
but like, let's be real, it's zombies, Like it's people

1464
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,039
that are in a zombie state. Yeah, it's strange. And

1465
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:23,960
the update was like out now, to which everyone freaks out.

1466
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:27,159
I'm like, fuck, I'm mean I f yeah. I left

1467
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,440
immediately from the Game Awards early and played this with

1468
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,440
my buds. It was a wonderful resurgence of having an

1469
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,239
excuse to play hell Divers with with people again and

1470
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,519
play zombie mode. It is very different than the other

1471
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,760
modes because zombies take in my opinion, a little bit

1472
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:48,719
more bullets to put down, and they're fast, so you

1473
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,719
have to constantly be running backwards while you're.

1474
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,559
Speaker 5: Doing zombie mode.

1475
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,599
Speaker 4: I think that you have to kind of almost a

1476
01:05:56,639 --> 01:06:00,760
completely different setup because I in bug mode. I would

1477
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,239
really like fire breaker, incendiary or something that basically lights

1478
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:04,760
them on fire.

1479
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,639
Speaker 5: But because zombies have that extra bit of life, they.

1480
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:10,559
Speaker 4: Essentially just run at you on fire, and that they

1481
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:13,719
can light you on fire, so fires and is effective.

1482
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,719
The best is just heavy bullet damage type guns or

1483
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,639
something that would even do knock back so that you

1484
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:23,559
can give yourself a little bit more space.

1485
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 5: So I had to completely change up what my build was.

1486
01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:32,159
Speaker 4: I essentially put everything into light armor that let me

1487
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,480
run because you need to be able to be very fluid.

1488
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:35,519
Speaker 2: I use a.

1489
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:38,719
Speaker 4: Jetpack again because it's really fun to jet pack overboards

1490
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,960
of zombies that are chasing after you.

1491
01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:44,199
Speaker 5: It's fun, you, guys, like I'm back in the hell.

1492
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,719
Divers is a great fucking game.

1493
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,599
Speaker 4: It is, absolutely, It's just really kind of reinvigorated my

1494
01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:54,559
love of playing games with other people and taking out

1495
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:59,480
hordes of mass people, and I've been adoring it. We

1496
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:02,880
played it until I don't know, like maybe like one

1497
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,360
or two in the morning. As soon as I got

1498
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,079
back and everyone was like, oh, it's going for.

1499
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: Me to go to bed.

1500
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 5: And everyone was like, okay, I'm going to bed, and

1501
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,159
I kind of just hung out for a second as

1502
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:13,639
I was like getting ready to sign off, and uh,

1503
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,920
Peter Brown was like, you want to play Rocket League?

1504
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,000
And I was like, oh, you son of a bitch.

1505
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,800
And at like one thirty in.

1506
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 4: The morning, Peter and I booted up rocket League and

1507
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,079
I played Rocket League for the first time in I

1508
01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:33,320
mean at least two years. And we played Rocket League

1509
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,039
until four in the morning and I had I had

1510
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:38,199
the best fucking time you guys, and we just kept

1511
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,199
we just kept playing. At first, I was pretty shitty.

1512
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:43,960
I forgot like you have to it's like riding a

1513
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,239
bike like I was like, I think I remember. But

1514
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,119
I couldn't fly, I couldn't defend very well. I wasn't

1515
01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:54,079
very good at like being goalie. And then after about

1516
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,280
after about an hour and a half, I was fucking great.

1517
01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 5: I was killing it. We were winning all of our matches.

1518
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:02,760
And then right around four am, I started getting really bad.

1519
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: That happens.

1520
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:06,639
Speaker 5: I had hit my peak.

1521
01:08:07,639 --> 01:08:11,199
Speaker 4: But what a fantastic experience to be able to play

1522
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,719
Hell Divers and Rocket League again, which I actually think

1523
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,320
are similar.

1524
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1525
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: They are all about teamwork and hanging out with your

1526
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,479
buds and then just taking out the other team if

1527
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,359
you can, but win or lose you were having a

1528
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,199
good time. But they both allow for these moments of

1529
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:29,359
absolute grandeur where like I am the reason that we won,

1530
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,880
I personally saved the day. It will make you feel

1531
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,199
like main character energy you are the hero in these games,

1532
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,520
and I think that's why they both are such excellent

1533
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,520
co op experiences. So playing them both in a night

1534
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,920
was very meaningful to me, and I just had a blast.

1535
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,399
We like, we've started a schedule to start doing them

1536
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,239
again weekly and it's just it's great.

1537
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,079
Speaker 5: So I'm back in on both. I think they're both

1538
01:08:52,119 --> 01:08:53,399
great games, but Hell Divers too.

1539
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: For sure.

1540
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,199
Speaker 4: I think they removed the zombie faction, but they just

1541
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:57,880
brought it back, so I believe you can.

1542
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:58,359
Speaker 5: Play it right now.

1543
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: Nice gonna go back at some point when my brother

1544
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,279
is overseas at the moment, but he was the one

1545
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:05,960
I was playing with most, so when he gets back

1546
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,479
and we're probably gonna dive in and no pun intended, and.

1547
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still down to play it if you guys

1548
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:14,760
want to play it.

1549
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 4: It's just a it's it's it's gody for me, Like,

1550
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,800
it's just such a tremendous accomplishment of like every game,

1551
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,319
I'm like, this is a movie and I might die,

1552
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,640
and sometimes I do and sometimes I'm the greatest that

1553
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,159
ever lived.

1554
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 5: It's great.

1555
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,279
Speaker 1: Dan, What's Castlevania? Dominus collection?

1556
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:41,039
Speaker 5: Keep doing this every time you even do game, I'm like,

1557
01:09:41,079 --> 01:09:41,960
what the fuck is this?

1558
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: What are you talking to? Cassovnia Collection, Dominatrix Collection, Dominatrix,

1559
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:48,399
What's Dominans.

1560
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:50,199
Speaker 2: He's getting to it.

1561
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 4: It is the.

1562
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: It's the something.

1563
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,199
Speaker 3: Cavana Lore, Yeah, donov It's Portrait of Ruin and Order

1564
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:05,079
of Ecclesia. And the reason that this is so cool,

1565
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:07,279
Like I love that the GBA Collection came out, you know,

1566
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:09,680
a year or two ago, because those are great games.

1567
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,880
But those are easy to play on a million different things.

1568
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,920
You know, they're GBA games. They're not complicated, whereas like

1569
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:17,760
DS three DS games. You can emulate those for sure,

1570
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,239
you know, WEU games. It just takes a little bit

1571
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:22,239
more because there's touch screen controls and you have to

1572
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,159
do a lot of configuring, and it's just like it's

1573
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:26,399
more of a pain in the ass. So to have

1574
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,439
these all on like a one screen standard consoles with

1575
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,840
like workarounds for you know, there's not a ton of

1576
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,159
touch based stuff in these DS games, just enough to

1577
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,760
make them a pain in the ass to emulate. So

1578
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:40,199
they just really streamlined a lot of that stuff so

1579
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,960
you're not having to like draw all these seals, you know,

1580
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,640
when you need to break these blocks and stuff, there's

1581
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,159
just ways to do it without having a fuck around

1582
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:46,560
with too much.

1583
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,279
Speaker 5: There is quality of life improvements.

1584
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,359
Speaker 3: Totally, and you can do the rewind stuff, a lot

1585
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:52,880
of like emulation type stuff. You just want to make

1586
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,359
life easier for you. But then there's just stuff that

1587
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:57,000
I didn't even think about where it's like, oh shit,

1588
01:10:57,039 --> 01:10:58,960
these are four by three games, so you have this

1589
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,039
screen real estate they're putting like the map and enemy

1590
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:04,319
information and stuff over on the right. So like to

1591
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,600
play a castle a Metroid VNEA game where you are

1592
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,399
live seeing the map is so nice because you pit select.

1593
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a game changer.

1594
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,399
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I didn't even think about that. It's like

1595
01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:17,079
that's fucking great, And like if I go to attack

1596
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,600
like oh, this acts Night or something. It'll tell me

1597
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,960
like all what it's weaknesses and strengths down there, so

1598
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:23,880
like no on the fly, like oh, let me switch

1599
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,000
to this Soul or whatever.

1600
01:11:25,119 --> 01:11:25,279
Speaker 2: It's.

1601
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 3: So it's just a really fantastic way to revisit these

1602
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,840
games that I've wanted to replay for a long time.

1603
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,680
I just didn't want to fuck with the touch control stuff.

1604
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:34,960
So yeah, I'm playing Down to Sorrow right now. That's

1605
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:36,680
kind of the follow up to Ario Sorrow, which I

1606
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,960
think is the best GBA one. It's just been awesome

1607
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,479
and this is a great way to play it. So yeah,

1608
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,760
great Steam Deck, great on switch h those if you

1609
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,880
like Simpthony the Night, or just Metrodvenias in general, these

1610
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,520
are just some of the best ones and now you

1611
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,560
can play them very easily.

1612
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,319
Speaker 5: That's great.

1613
01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:53,359
Speaker 2: Steam It's great.

1614
01:11:53,399 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1615
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,159
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the Steam page and it came out

1616
01:11:56,199 --> 01:12:00,000
in August and it's got overwhelmingly positive reviews, so people

1617
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:02,439
like have obviously been playing it, but I'd never even

1618
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,640
heard of this new release, so that's very cool.

1619
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,520
Speaker 3: Oh it's it's good as hell, and it's it's one

1620
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,720
of those Castlevanians at least Donna Saura that I'm playing,

1621
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,000
where it's like your weapons and stuff, or as you

1622
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:14,279
kill enemies, you know, there's drop rates of like their soul.

1623
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:16,960
So if you kill a bat, there's a good chance

1624
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:18,720
you are going to get its soul, which you can

1625
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,680
map to a button and then some in a bat.

1626
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:22,760
Or if you get like a spear, the guy that

1627
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,680
throws spears, Skelton throws spears, you kill it, you get

1628
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,479
it sol, and I'll just map that soul to this

1629
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,279
button and then I'm throwing I'm spin a spear around.

1630
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:33,520
Speaker 5: So it's like Echoes of the Kingdom.

1631
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,199
Speaker 3: More about like enemy abilities than it is like inanimate objects.

1632
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1633
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can echo an enemy well right.

1634
01:12:44,079 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: There are some that are like familiars like the bat

1635
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,159
that will follow you around, but a lot of them

1636
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,039
are just like you will take that weapon or you know,

1637
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:50,800
that guy through an axe, so now I'm throwing an

1638
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,319
axe that type of stuff. And then there's passive souls

1639
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:55,399
where it's like, oh, this just increases my strength or whatever.

1640
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,680
So you can really kind of set your soul set

1641
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,800
you can. You know, there's just a lot of fun

1642
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:01,960
if you can do instead of just I've got my

1643
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:03,800
sword and what I just.

1644
01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:06,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a battle of attrition. You can actually

1645
01:13:06,119 --> 01:13:09,079
like have some strategy to it and mimic it. I

1646
01:13:09,119 --> 01:13:10,600
also love the real estate.

1647
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: I remember when Zelda wind Waker came out on the

1648
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,199
Wii you and what a game changer it was to

1649
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:23,119
have a secondary screen for the map. This reminds me

1650
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:24,640
a lot of that, where it's just like this is

1651
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,279
the way I wish it always was, right, I just

1652
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,960
this is the definitive version.

1653
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: I will no longer think about the other version. This

1654
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:33,640
is the better way to play the game. Would you

1655
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,680
say this is like the definitive version, like you wouldn't

1656
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,800
go back and play the original?

1657
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's they were great portable games, and like,

1658
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,560
you know, the DS did have those two screens, so

1659
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,560
you did have you know, that same like wind Waker

1660
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,920
type thing like oh, I've got the map in my

1661
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,760
items and stuff down here, and I've got the gameplay

1662
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,760
screen up here, so like it did have that. But

1663
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,000
there's just something about like I love that sprite art

1664
01:13:51,079 --> 01:13:53,039
and everything, and it's nice to be like a big

1665
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:55,880
o led steam deck screen or a switch like instead

1666
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,880
of just you know, the DS was great at the time,

1667
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,520
but like it looks and it looks.

1668
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:01,279
Speaker 2: Better on a big screen.

1669
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 5: Did they update the graphics?

1670
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm just saying it's just like the

1671
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,479
art is really great and I'd like to see it

1672
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,720
on a backlit olid you know, Steam deck screen, then

1673
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,520
a little DS.

1674
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: Screen you know.

1675
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, bigger.

1676
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:15,359
Speaker 2: Yep, killer killer games great? Yeah?

1677
01:14:16,119 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 1: What about Duck Detective?

1678
01:14:18,279 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1679
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 8: What is this?

1680
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:21,319
Speaker 2: I started that? Mary? Was you that told me about this?

1681
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: I did?

1682
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 4: I played that on an earlier episode and talked about it.

1683
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,680
It's a lot like, uh, what's that other game? Dork's

1684
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:29,600
like Golden Idol.

1685
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,399
Speaker 1: It's like you did to talk about this, I remember now.

1686
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 4: My My joke was like Golden Idol is like this

1687
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,039
person has been murdered and you're like solving it, and

1688
01:14:36,079 --> 01:14:36,840
Duck Detective is like.

1689
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 5: Where's my salami? Somebody's been stealing the salami.

1690
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:43,119
Speaker 3: So you're solving someone who can celebrate this receptionist birthday

1691
01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:44,600
and so she yeah, this draft.

1692
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a couple.

1693
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,279
Speaker 3: Like I beat Rise the Golden Idol and I really

1694
01:14:49,399 --> 01:14:52,520
enjoyed it, and I just like that style of gameplay.

1695
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,239
Speaker 5: It's like that for dummies, little easier.

1696
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,119
Speaker 3: Because the question is by the end of Rise, the

1697
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,520
Golden Nidol is like, oh man, that's so blanks. I

1698
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,800
gotta figure out. And so the idea of just like, oh,

1699
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,880
I'm a little duck detective, it's like divorced duck walking

1700
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,359
around trying to figure out why a giraffe.

1701
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:13,199
Speaker 5: Duck Detective was a little too long. I think it

1702
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:18,279
should have been Dutective. I think they fucked up. I know,

1703
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:21,439
I know, but they didn't call it duck Detective. They

1704
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,119
call it duck Detective, Divorce duck Detective.

1705
01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:28,399
Speaker 3: It's just it's cute, it's got good voice acting and stuff,

1706
01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:30,159
and it is just like you're right, it is like

1707
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,880
Golden Idle Junior, you know, with a totally different type

1708
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,159
of tone. And yeah, I just I was ready for

1709
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:39,159
more of that style of game. And it's a simple one,

1710
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:41,720
but I've really been enjoying it. They have like a

1711
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:46,239
noir sound track. Yeah, it's very kind of noir. It's

1712
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:47,880
like the whole thing is just like this gruff you know,

1713
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:51,600
like Duck that he's broke, you know, you can't afford

1714
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,119
rant and stuff, and he's doing these kind of shady

1715
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,119
jobs and it's it's a goofy story, but I like it.

1716
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:04,399
Speaker 1: It looks like it's charming characters, stickers, yeah, yeah, there, yeah, And.

1717
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 5: The story is silly, but it is engaging.

1718
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how to describe it, like, sure the

1719
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,640
stakes are low, but you are I was interested to

1720
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,119
figure out who was the bandit. I wanted to know,

1721
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:19,880
and it's very similar mechanically, where it's like Blank was

1722
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,279
the blank stealer and he used blank to get to

1723
01:16:23,399 --> 01:16:25,600
the blank, and so you still have to figure it out.

1724
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,359
It's finding words in the scene and then putting them

1725
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:30,279
in the right order. I still got actually stuck a

1726
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:33,119
couple times towards the end of Duck Detective, which is

1727
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:35,920
sad because I was just saying it's like the child

1728
01:16:36,039 --> 01:16:38,920
version of Golden Idol. But I still ended up getting

1729
01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:41,279
kind of stuck on Duck Detective at some point and

1730
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:41,680
was like, I.

1731
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 5: Don't know, I don't care. But it's the same problem

1732
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,159
I have with Golden Idol, which is I've solved it.

1733
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,359
I know what it's saying. I just couldn't put the

1734
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:52,079
words in the right fucking order.

1735
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,239
Speaker 4: It's like, at some point it's semantics, and I get

1736
01:16:55,319 --> 01:16:57,800
really frustrated with games that are essentially like oh well,

1737
01:16:58,079 --> 01:16:59,399
it's not a purple hoodie.

1738
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 5: It was great. It's like, bitch, he's dead, Like, yeah,

1739
01:17:02,079 --> 01:17:04,039
can we just say I solved the crime?

1740
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Yeah. Yeah. It's a frustrating.

1741
01:17:07,079 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it's annoying when you know you understand the

1742
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,640
entire situation, but the game is just kind of like, no,

1743
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,720
but you need to play by our rules and get

1744
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,399
this exactly correct. That gets a bit frustrating. Yeah, are

1745
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,600
you liking Silent Hill too or you were liking Silent

1746
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,880
Hill too? Fair amount, but it was characters that were

1747
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,199
annoying you. Mary that so annoying she was she.

1748
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 5: Took a nap.

1749
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,359
Speaker 4: I have a really short update because I've been playing

1750
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:33,560
this once a week, so I you know, I'm still

1751
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,199
playing it. She has been taking a nap for the

1752
01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:39,800
last three hours, which is great, so I haven't had

1753
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,800
to deal with her. I got to a very wonderful

1754
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,960
part in the original Silent Hill too, where you go

1755
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:50,720
down this essentially like terrifyingly long staircase, and I got

1756
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,399
to that part in the new one. So anyone who's

1757
01:17:52,399 --> 01:17:54,560
played Silent Hill two or remembers, there's just kind of

1758
01:17:54,600 --> 01:18:01,760
this iconically long staircase that is obvious inspired by a

1759
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,800
lot of devs to say like, hey, you're fucking going

1760
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,680
down to hell, like that is what's happening here. You

1761
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,880
are going down town and this will be the thing

1762
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,560
that puts you into hell. And it's just ungodly long.

1763
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,439
The remake is it puts a lot of love into

1764
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,560
that scene to make sure you still feel like you

1765
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,920
understand what's happening, which is you are in the longest

1766
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,960
staircase and it is about to get fucked and it

1767
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,479
is ungodly frightening. The further I've gotten in it, the

1768
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,319
more I've personally felt that Silent Hill Too should have

1769
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,119
won the Game of the Year for audio design. I

1770
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:38,119
think it is one of the best designed audio games

1771
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,439
of recent years. And I just think a lot of

1772
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,680
times horror games do not get their due for winning

1773
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,680
awards because they're kind of written off, like yah, it's

1774
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,920
a remake. It's like a beloved horror movie, but like whatever,

1775
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,399
this is unbelievable what they were able to accomplish with

1776
01:18:55,399 --> 01:18:58,680
the audio. Even the backing tracks have breathing in them,

1777
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,840
so you always feel like someone could be in the room.

1778
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 8: Uh.

1779
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:07,319
Speaker 4: It is just a constant up like fear even as

1780
01:19:07,399 --> 01:19:09,439
you're like solving a puzzle, which means you should be

1781
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,239
good for a little bit, they are putting like and

1782
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:18,880
weird noises throughout the entire track, going back and forth

1783
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,640
underneath tunnels and stuff like that. You never feel safe

1784
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,119
in this game. It is just it is a triumph

1785
01:19:24,359 --> 01:19:26,680
of how how frightening it will make you feel. I'm

1786
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,039
in the jail right now, and it is.

1787
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 5: Oh, what a horrible, horrible area to put put a

1788
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:32,279
player in.

1789
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 4: I think it's the scariest game of the year, and

1790
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,279
so an absolute triumph of scaring the shit out of me.

1791
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 5: And I fully recommended.

1792
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I forgot what one audio,

1793
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,680
but it was hell made.

1794
01:19:46,319 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 4: It was yeah, And I'm not saying like that didn't

1795
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,720
deserve it. I didn't really hear that game too much.

1796
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, show on this game every episode, and

1797
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,560
my god, stop kicking it while it's done.

1798
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:56,239
Speaker 5: Who cares.

1799
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 4: I just think, like horror games don't often get their

1800
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,560
do That's what I think I'm ultimately saying is like

1801
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,920
a lot of times I feel the same way with

1802
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,279
Resident Evil is like it usually gets nominated, but it

1803
01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:08,920
does not win because like they're like sure you deserve

1804
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,000
a nomination, like it's such a good game, but we're

1805
01:20:11,039 --> 01:20:14,439
obviously going to give it to this, uh you know,

1806
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,439
RPG shooter with horny characters, and it's like, come on,

1807
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,000
like these horror games are there, all the rest of them?

1808
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just the a Malcolm of all of them.

1809
01:20:26,119 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's I've just been playing Warhammer and metaphor

1810
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,680
long games.

1811
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 5: Those are long games. Yeah, they take you forever. I've

1812
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,439
been playing Silent Hill for like six weeks now.

1813
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 4: Every time every time we do our game list, I'm

1814
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,640
always like, I put Silent Hill on there because I'm

1815
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,279
still playing it.

1816
01:20:41,319 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: But I have to be getting any Caravella update. Yeah,

1817
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,760
a lot of those where he was you know, journal

1818
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,359
entry updates from his long form games. Yeah, all right,

1819
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:56,000
you wanted you to emails, okay, as usually you can

1820
01:20:56,079 --> 01:20:59,319
ride into Firescape past at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns,

1821
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,039
stuff you want us to read on potentially the next episode.

1822
01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:06,800
We got a bunch since last episode, at which point

1823
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,079
we said send him in to get us through into

1824
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:12,920
the next few episodes. And I think we have enough

1825
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,039
now to lost us all of twenty twenty five. But

1826
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:20,279
that's great. Yeah, people, people got a lot in kick

1827
01:21:20,359 --> 01:21:23,760
things off with this one from Joseph Dan. Do you

1828
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:24,760
want to read this first one?

1829
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:25,399
Speaker 2: Yes?

1830
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:28,399
Speaker 3: What things in real life do you think are most

1831
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,039
like Charmander? I can't see there's a thing, okay, charme

1832
01:21:32,199 --> 01:21:35,600
Leon and Charizard. I can think of a duck, a goose,

1833
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,800
and a swan, or maybe Dave Franco, James Franco and

1834
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,840
Jared Leto. It doesn't have to just be living things though.

1835
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,359
I'm interested in all forms of three stage evolution. So wait,

1836
01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:49,039
so I don't even know anything about It's just like

1837
01:21:49,079 --> 01:21:52,159
an evolution. Charland is the most basic and then Charmila

1838
01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:52,680
is the middle one.

1839
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 5: So like so an upgrade and then second upgrade.

1840
01:21:55,119 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: I think an appropriate one for this is do candy bars,

1841
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,359
because we've argued about this before. Like to me, Armander

1842
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:02,600
would be three musketeers. All it is, it's just new Gat,

1843
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:04,399
and then after that would.

1844
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: Be milky Way.

1845
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 1: You got.

1846
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: What is it new gat? I got a new gap.

1847
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,399
Speaker 1: It would be three musketeers, and then Charmeleon would be

1848
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,159
is it milky Way just adds the caramel?

1849
01:22:19,119 --> 01:22:19,319
Speaker 5: Yes?

1850
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: And then it would be third one. Okay, it gets it?

1851
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,800
Gets good, aren't good.

1852
01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:31,520
Speaker 1: They're good, They're like, okay, fire escape, who's Charmander? It

1853
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:32,760
depends on the criteria.

1854
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,520
Speaker 4: I take offense that Joseph said that Jared Letto was

1855
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,359
the final emotion because is a little but good?

1856
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't that kind of suck to like it? So that.

1857
01:22:48,359 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be good, It doesn't have to

1858
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,279
be improving it like what is the most what is

1859
01:22:53,359 --> 01:22:57,119
the most of the series, the most X of this series?

1860
01:22:57,159 --> 01:22:59,119
And if it's douchebag, then Jared Letto would definitely be

1861
01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:01,279
chars are right right, right right?

1862
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's true. It's like the final evolution of

1863
01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:06,279
being a villain.

1864
01:23:07,159 --> 01:23:16,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy could see, like, yeah, for us three,

1865
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,920
you're the final form. I didn't say. I didn't say

1866
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,399
that just such I put together.

1867
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,319
Speaker 2: We're too different to be evolutions of each other. Yeah,

1868
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,720
but like it's more fun if we did it anyway,

1869
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,039
I like, and if we're.

1870
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,159
Speaker 4: Going from like you know, but the most basic it

1871
01:23:37,279 --> 01:23:42,680
was evolution, it would be me Dan, Mike, what I'm

1872
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,239
not the charis of sickos?

1873
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:47,239
Speaker 2: You are a what what makes me a sicko?

1874
01:23:48,079 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 5: All of the horny jokes, the.

1875
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: Dans one who pooped his pants, the other days, isn't horny?

1876
01:23:53,279 --> 01:23:55,199
Speaker 5: That's true horny.

1877
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love that you connected those though.

1878
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,319
Speaker 5: He's the one who poops his pants all the time.

1879
01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 4: If anyone should be horniest, it's dand because he's always

1880
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:02,840
as hell.

1881
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: Did you guys have pants every time you get horny?

1882
01:24:06,039 --> 01:24:08,680
I rest my case your That's why I can't go

1883
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,760
to strip clubs that just ship my pants right away,

1884
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:15,039
turn and leave. Yep, that's where I stink up the joint.

1885
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what would be I know?

1886
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: Everyone advance, I'm ready, I know, but I like it

1887
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,760
more when you don't, because then we stumble on it

1888
01:24:27,039 --> 01:24:27,880
that I could switch.

1889
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 4: My head with a bird and then fly. This is

1890
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,239
what happens when we don't read these in advance, I know.

1891
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: And that's why that's where you get the best you

1892
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,159
get the best material from. I'm trying to think, like,

1893
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,319
what would what would the the evolution, the three stage

1894
01:24:41,319 --> 01:24:51,079
evolution be for fast food and the criteria the final one?

1895
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: I think?

1896
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 3: And so I think, what's like a couple of shittier McDonald's,

1897
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,359
like curls. I don't really have a lot of curls Arby's.

1898
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:01,359
Arby's is good, though they were all kind of thing.

1899
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:02,399
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got one.

1900
01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:03,359
Speaker 1: I got when I got on, I got one. Do

1901
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,039
do do the chicken spots?

1902
01:25:05,079 --> 01:25:09,359
Speaker 3: Do Popeyes? Chick fil A and KFC? Uh, it's got

1903
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,760
to be Charie Ard right well whatever the smallest one

1904
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,039
is would be KFC, which I still love it. Think

1905
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:16,479
that would be pop and then Chick fil A and

1906
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:22,640
then Popeyes? Yeah yeah, ultimate, Yeah, it checks out. What

1907
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,159
about SODA's? Oh, it's like r C Cola would be

1908
01:25:26,199 --> 01:25:29,439
the first one, and then Pepsi and then coke.

1909
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: Now the creative juice? Do do cheesy pasta dishes?

1910
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:43,279
Speaker 2: I refuse. He's a man of principles. Yeah, yam, the

1911
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,520
final farm.

1912
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I've if we were doing the the Italian dishes at

1913
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,720
that place we went, I think that what was it

1914
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,760
the pumpkin the dual Tortellini's that would have been chars

1915
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,840
Ard was dual.

1916
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Ravioli's the dope.

1917
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that was really good for for those who

1918
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,279
are wondering what the fuck I'm talking about, because it's

1919
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,399
has I did not contextualize it whatsoever. We went to

1920
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,359
a place that Dan recommended, and there was this one

1921
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:18,239
dish that wasa yeah two like vertical Raviolis that are

1922
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:20,399
still connected to each other. And then in one it

1923
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,640
was like a pumpkin filling and the other was like

1924
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,600
a cream cheese.

1925
01:26:26,359 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 4: But together they combined, which is exactly what this is

1926
01:26:30,039 --> 01:26:32,560
meant to make us think about. I would also say

1927
01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:35,840
dan is not strong enough that mac and cheese maybe

1928
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,199
like blue Box is probably like the original form. Yeah.

1929
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,039
Speaker 5: I think when you get to like.

1930
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: A Velveta level, that's probably second form, where it's like, okay,

1931
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:52,119
we've added a cream, it's not powder anymore. There's actual

1932
01:26:52,199 --> 01:26:57,960
cheese in this. And then the final form I've got

1933
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:03,840
one sorry, might be uh okay. When you go to

1934
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,560
a festival and they have mac and cheese balls fried on.

1935
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: A stick, that's pretty good.

1936
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,399
Speaker 4: It's like all of the cheesy goodness it's on a

1937
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,399
stick and it's been depried. Yeah, they've they've combined so

1938
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,720
many different forms of food that are for people who

1939
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:26,760
want to hurt themselves and they put it in an easy, convenient,

1940
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:28,279
walkable form.

1941
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,520
Speaker 1: For Nebiolo would definitely be longa nebiolo, and then barbaresco,

1942
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,199
then barolo.

1943
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: That's a that's an easy one. Johnny Walker is an

1944
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,319
easy one. You go from like red to black, the.

1945
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Blue Snave would be just normal Russo the de Monto Plciano,

1946
01:27:45,119 --> 01:27:48,600
and then it would be ve No Russia and Multipolciano

1947
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,920
is not sand As, I'm embarrassed, just regular, and then

1948
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,079
it would be Kianti and that would be Brunello or

1949
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:56,439
maybe Vino Nobile.

1950
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,119
Speaker 2: Grown in there.

1951
01:27:58,239 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 5: Damn, you need to go to the bathroom.

1952
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:03,119
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was trying to meet my mic conder.

1953
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 4: The morning you've had, I don't think you should be,

1954
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,479
uh a crying wolf right now?

1955
01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, there's got to be like, uh, I don't

1956
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,479
want to do wrestlers because that wouldn't make any sense

1957
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:18,720
to me.

1958
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely one of that.

1959
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a you know, maybe like Stealth series where like,

1960
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,720
you know, the ultimate would be Middle Year, the middle One.

1961
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 5: What about yours your favorite? Uh double O seven.

1962
01:28:35,359 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Mmm? Uh scenes with Zenya on the top of them?

1963
01:28:40,079 --> 01:28:44,359
Speaker 2: Okay, son scene is the ultimate evolution? Oh really, I

1964
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:46,279
would go. I would go the crush.

1965
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I guess the basic one is when she just kills

1966
01:28:49,039 --> 01:28:49,399
that dude.

1967
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, crushes the.

1968
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:55,520
Speaker 3: First one, and then maybe the hell gun orgasm and

1969
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,439
then yeah or guns.

1970
01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so they all work. I mean, yeah,

1971
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,840
I be. I would love to. I think she would.

1972
01:29:08,399 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 5: Come on, what about the bedazzled lady?

1973
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean gimmicks there's there's Yeah, she's got the.

1974
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:31,199
Speaker 3: Uh fidazzle outfits. Oh, the devil thing, when she got

1975
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:33,840
the desk that's oh yeah, and sitting on the car

1976
01:29:34,279 --> 01:29:38,640
and then uh yeah, wait because he has more of

1977
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,159
the gangs. She's just a devil all the time.

1978
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: Wait. No, she's like a teacher here. Oh yeah, you got.

1979
01:29:43,039 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: Okay, the snake one yep, yeah, yep, oh I have one.

1980
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,079
We should we should put Fomky Johnsen and Elizabeth Hurley

1981
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:51,399
in like in a in a ring.

1982
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Don't you dare?

1983
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:54,279
Speaker 1: What?

1984
01:29:55,159 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: What what do you mean? Don't I dare?

1985
01:29:57,039 --> 01:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Can't pick a winner there, I'm not saying I I'd

1986
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,359
say they would decide who wins. They'll fight, no fight,

1987
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:08,399
Oh come on, don't ruin this for me.

1988
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:13,399
Speaker 5: Keep say I'm telling you he's the final evolution of Sika.

1989
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: I absolutely am. They will come back if we come

1990
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:16,680
up with any other good ones.

1991
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: There's got to be. There's probably some good ones, but

1992
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:19,840
we have got to be good ones. We have a

1993
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,760
couple of other questions. Keep that back of mine while

1994
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,560
we do these next questions. I'm gonna do this one. Hey, Fire,

1995
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,159
people love the podcast, haven't missed an episode in three years,

1996
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:28,760
and you are a light in a dark, dark world.

1997
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm a man who likes to drink.

1998
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: I turned twenty one a few years ago and don't

1999
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,680
feel embarrassed to order any drink I see in the menu.

2000
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,600
Alcohol is alcohol. It gets the job done. Some people, though,

2001
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,279
are overly critical about drink choice, for example, saying a

2002
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:43,640
type of whiskey or bourbon isn't a good choice, making

2003
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,159
fun of choosing white wines over red wines, calling different

2004
01:30:46,199 --> 01:30:47,960
mixed drinks more masculin than others, and it makes no

2005
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:50,800
sense to me whatsoever. Mike is the CEO of wine,

2006
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,399
Mary is the Mike Tyson of verbal arguments, and Dan

2007
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,159
is the first to point out aromatic notes in a

2008
01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:58,159
variety of craft beers. My question for you three experts

2009
01:30:58,199 --> 01:30:59,960
is what rebuttals do you have for people that share

2010
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:02,359
drink choices? And what's an interesting drink I can order

2011
01:31:02,399 --> 01:31:04,720
so they think I'm better than them. I've always hated

2012
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,359
that ship. I remember the first time I went to

2013
01:31:06,399 --> 01:31:08,119
a bar. I was like, oh, zema sounds good, and

2014
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:10,600
of course it's like, oh he's gay, it's a girl

2015
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,720
you drink or whatever like that. You dumbest hill drink

2016
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,399
whatever you want to drink. I think you're giving yourself

2017
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,880
too much credit. I think you shame people for getting

2018
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,760
stuff that's considered too high brow and your.

2019
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 2: Sure okay, so I yeah, just.

2020
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: Immediately, No, no, not at all. You're not as bad

2021
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:27,760
as him.

2022
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:31,159
Speaker 2: There was definitely a time I was like that in

2023
01:31:31,239 --> 01:31:32,239
every way with my dad.

2024
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 5: Don't was the final form of shaming for what they drink.

2025
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:43,279
Speaker 1: If Paul is the charizard of like lowbrow whoa and Dan,

2026
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,119
let's say Dan, you would be charmander. What's who's the

2027
01:31:46,199 --> 01:31:47,359
charmion between you two?

2028
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 5: A cigarette?

2029
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 6: Uh?

2030
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Hank Hill, I don't know. Is a cigarette with eyes?

2031
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:01,399
Speaker 5: That's just it's just a cigarette judging you with eyes.

2032
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: And you're better about this and like to be to

2033
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,319
be clear, I would rather someone be scoff at highbrow

2034
01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:10,000
stuff than like, think something.

2035
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: Better than something like that ship Mike and I give

2036
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,079
backlership with the craft beer stuff. Well, no, there's a

2037
01:32:16,119 --> 01:32:18,439
difference there because Mike, you will have a butt light

2038
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,520
with me. I've done that a million times. And you

2039
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,880
don't look down your nose at all is a billion percent.

2040
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,199
Speaker 2: Like, might as well drink a can of piss. You

2041
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,000
should just drink some piss because that's what you're drinking.

2042
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 7: But like like.

2043
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 1: When you were first really getting into hard Seltzers like

2044
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,760
four years ago or whatever, and we were at his house,

2045
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,319
I think he was making fun of you for it.

2046
01:32:38,399 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: Like a white claw. He'sis you can of piss? Sure? Yeah?

2047
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 3: Backlar is a hipster. Yeah, he's totally that crap beer guy,

2048
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:48,920
like for real. Yeah, so he is the look down

2049
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,800
on people. Get Mike, as much as we give you,

2050
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:52,720
you're not, You've never.

2051
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm dude, I'm not afraid to dive into the mud and.

2052
01:32:55,039 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 2: Frog around shotgun a beard. Yeah yeah, it's you're cool though.

2053
01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 5: I will all the rest of us.

2054
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I fucking love it. I'll dumpster dive. I

2055
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,560
literally ran into a bunch of trash cans and dove

2056
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,319
into them. But the first time Dan hung out in

2057
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,960
my neighborhood twenty nineteen here, yeah, I know you're Yeah.

2058
01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:16,800
We I In terms of like things that people do

2059
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,319
to wine that a lot of people scoff at, Like

2060
01:33:18,319 --> 01:33:19,800
if you want to put ice in your white wine

2061
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,119
or rose fucking who cares if you and if that

2062
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:23,359
makes you enjoy it more.

2063
01:33:23,279 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 5: Than that example. For me, that's a good example of that.

2064
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,119
Speaker 1: As I do, I should, I should not, I should

2065
01:33:29,279 --> 01:33:31,239
just want people to enjoy it more and maybe buy

2066
01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:33,319
more of it and drink it however they want. And

2067
01:33:33,359 --> 01:33:35,880
if you want to have red wine with fish, it

2068
01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:38,600
could probably be better if you had white wine fish,

2069
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,840
but whatever, fuck it, it's you're ordering it.

2070
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 3: I think I went to college in the early two thousands,

2071
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,239
and back then it was just you had to think

2072
01:33:45,279 --> 01:33:47,479
about every drink because like everybody was so quick to

2073
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,880
be like that drink, you ordering that drink means you

2074
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:56,159
are gay or a girl like that was just absolutely.

2075
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 4: Homophobic as hell, and someday you'll be laughed out of

2076
01:33:58,960 --> 01:33:59,479
a tavern.

2077
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah worse.

2078
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 3: And like I would want to get like, oh this

2079
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:03,720
thing actually, like I like the taste of this thing

2080
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,199
or this like green apple shot or whatever. Everyone's gonna

2081
01:34:07,239 --> 01:34:09,319
call me gay, so like and so like that was

2082
01:34:09,359 --> 01:34:11,159
a great thing. When you realize you get old enough,

2083
01:34:11,399 --> 01:34:15,239
me gay problem and it's like drink the thing that

2084
01:34:15,319 --> 01:34:15,800
tastes good.

2085
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,199
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna swirl my wine, I'm gonna stick

2086
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,319
I'm gonna and I'm gonna.

2087
01:34:21,119 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 5: Get flexus to order the drink that you like and

2088
01:34:24,199 --> 01:34:25,119
just be like that.

2089
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:30,359
Speaker 4: Then fine, I'm I'm super gay, I'm flaming and and

2090
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,640
I'm happier and I'm freer than you, dude.

2091
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 5: Honestly, the patriarchy is like the biggest chains in the world.

2092
01:34:36,079 --> 01:34:40,119
Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine not ordering what I want because someone

2093
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:44,159
would call me gay. That is so sad, not just

2094
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:46,640
for the person who's ordering that's afraid, but just for

2095
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,079
men in general, that you can't be yourself because someone

2096
01:34:50,199 --> 01:34:52,119
is going to say that you're gay and that and

2097
01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:53,920
that is like not good.

2098
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 5: It's like who cares?

2099
01:34:55,039 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: And the bar it is just was so low too,

2100
01:34:59,119 --> 01:35:01,159
Like if you've got a March teeny, which I was

2101
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:02,960
not ordering Martine when I was young, but like now,

2102
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:06,319
I know them to be a very strong, maybe in

2103
01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:08,840
some ways masculine drink, but they would have made fun

2104
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,079
of me so much if I got a Martine.

2105
01:35:10,119 --> 01:35:12,239
Speaker 2: I heard a Martini near my dad today.

2106
01:35:12,399 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 7: He was like, you.

2107
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: Take a Martine, Just drink a normal beer like a

2108
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:16,920
real guy.

2109
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 4: Like a real guy I think is like ultimate toxic

2110
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:26,479
masculinity energy. Yeah, that's that's the final form as your

2111
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:32,279
toxic masculinity is so sad. Yeah, so it says like

2112
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,840
what drink can you order? Some people think I was thinking,

2113
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,600
like Mike, you were getting really good examples with with

2114
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,560
wine right with where you could put ice in it,

2115
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,359
and it's like who cares for uh.

2116
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:44,359
Speaker 5: Mixed drinks.

2117
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 4: I think it was always having a decent liquor, maybe

2118
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,840
like jamison, but then adding something to it that would

2119
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,079
take away how that liquor tastes. And so like a

2120
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:58,199
jamison and coke was something that people would make fun

2121
01:35:58,279 --> 01:36:00,319
of me for because it's like, well, and you're not

2122
01:36:00,399 --> 01:36:02,399
tasting the jamison, you're tasting like a.

2123
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,359
Speaker 5: Very sugary coke or ginger ale or whatever it is.

2124
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,279
Speaker 4: The mixer with a nice liquor is something that I

2125
01:36:09,359 --> 01:36:11,479
got shipped for when I was like in my early

2126
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,159
twenties because I wanted something sweeter.

2127
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:14,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2128
01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:16,159
Speaker 1: I mean to answer the question, if there's something you

2129
01:36:16,199 --> 01:36:18,079
could if you were curious, what you could order to

2130
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:20,399
make people think you're better than them. Martinis are very

2131
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,159
in style right now. If you want to go a

2132
01:36:22,199 --> 01:36:24,680
step further, order at Gibson. If the bar even has

2133
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,359
cocktail onions, it's a martini but with a cocktail onion instead.

2134
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:32,159
I fucking love them, but they're definitely a like they're

2135
01:36:32,279 --> 01:36:34,760
past their prime for sure, Like they were a big

2136
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,159
like post prohibition era drink or you know what I've

2137
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:40,199
been drinking lately every once in a while.

2138
01:36:40,079 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 2: As a vukure.

2139
01:36:41,359 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 7: It's what.

2140
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,239
Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's apparently used to be way more common.

2141
01:36:45,359 --> 01:36:51,279
It's whiskey, brandy, and I'm forgetting maybe some bitters. I

2142
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:52,840
forget the third one is, but it's kind of like

2143
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,880
a French old fashion, but it like, despite the fact

2144
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,880
that it's French. I think it actually started as a

2145
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:02,960
pretty like speak easy underground drink.

2146
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 4: Actually good, probably something that you have to tell the

2147
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,640
bartender how to make it because.

2148
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:08,119
Speaker 5: It's so unique.

2149
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I really wanted to Alaska, and Alaska would do the trick.

2150
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,279
A lot of bartenders do not know what that is.

2151
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:13,239
Speaker 5: Alaska.

2152
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: It's just our team, but with sharkshroofs instead of Vermouth

2153
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,079
and Chartsrus is in short supply and kind of expensive

2154
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:23,199
right now in America, so that might make you look

2155
01:37:23,319 --> 01:37:26,199
like informed. And then when they don't know what your Alaska,

2156
01:37:26,199 --> 01:37:27,640
whether in Alaska is, you can make fun of the

2157
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:28,479
people they made fun of you.

2158
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,399
Speaker 3: I've been surprised because, like, as I've gotten into cocktail

2159
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,560
making and stuff like that, Like one of the mo

2160
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,399
most common ingredients I've seen is orghot, which is that

2161
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,399
like almost syrup and like to like big mellows drink,

2162
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,319
And I'll ask, oh, yea, do you guys have orgot here?

2163
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:43,399
Speaker 2: And like some people working at liquor stores won't know

2164
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:44,800
what it is. I'm like, is this sorry?

2165
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 5: I can't hear you with that dick in your mouth?

2166
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,159
Can you please say that again?

2167
01:37:48,399 --> 01:37:53,199
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's well, it goes by. I think fewer people.

2168
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,479
Some people would not even recognize it as or shot.

2169
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,439
They would just be like, oh, you want like decerna, yeah,

2170
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,920
we have tons of that. Or it's a bit different, right,

2171
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,920
they are a type of It's not like it's.

2172
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:04,319
Speaker 2: A type of shot. But if you can buy a.

2173
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:06,239
Speaker 3: Shot that like there's just the almonds syrup that doesn't

2174
01:38:06,279 --> 01:38:08,680
have the like like a liquor content in it, right,

2175
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,439
because I buy that off Amazon.

2176
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 2: You can't just buy like liquor off Amazon.

2177
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Uh, No, or shot usually has alcohol if you want

2178
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,560
to get like almonds syrup. I don't think it's technically until.

2179
01:38:18,319 --> 01:38:21,520
Speaker 5: It is alcohol is just such a low percentage that

2180
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,159
you can buy it.

2181
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: You might, I mean, I might be wrong. I didn't

2182
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,800
think it's or shot unless it actually was a liqueur

2183
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,199
as well almond syrup.

2184
01:38:28,319 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 3: Well then all this stuff I've been using this Tranni almond.

2185
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,239
Uh yeah, I don't do the same thing flavor wise,

2186
01:38:33,279 --> 01:38:36,159
but I yeah, I don't know. I'm I completely could

2187
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:37,720
be wrong. I just didn't think it was shot. If

2188
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,279
it's zero alcohol, yeah's the stuff I buying an Amazon

2189
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,199
is just yeah, almond, orgot syrup, turani no alcohol.

2190
01:38:43,359 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: Weird, but like shot more in my life, it's a

2191
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,760
fun word and it is to say orgy it. And

2192
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,720
then I heard someone say it correctly. I'm like, oh, man,

2193
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,319
I think the low brow one here you corrected me, Mike, Yeah,

2194
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:53,880
I don't think I corrected you.

2195
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I.

2196
01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:58,239
Speaker 5: Guess it goes to or over here.

2197
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:02,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, heard you. You just said it correctly.

2198
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:04,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I'm gonna say I for

2199
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,319
all the you know, the times I play up the

2200
01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:08,960
highbrow stuff, I make it a point to never just

2201
01:39:09,039 --> 01:39:11,239
outright correct someone because I hate that guy.

2202
01:39:11,399 --> 01:39:13,520
Speaker 3: I will a thousand percent back you on that. Like

2203
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,199
you're actually really good about that.

2204
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2205
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, And everyone who said that it was Balatroe can

2206
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:20,079
suck my dick.

2207
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,520
Speaker 5: I don't care.

2208
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm not doing that. Second of all,

2209
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,960
shut up, I don't care. I'm not dealing with you

2210
01:39:27,159 --> 01:39:27,439
right now.

2211
01:39:28,079 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: Wait is that how it's supposed to be said?

2212
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:30,159
Speaker 5: I don't care.

2213
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:31,119
Speaker 2: No one does it.

2214
01:39:33,399 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 5: I refuse to answer the question.

2215
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:37,079
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2216
01:39:37,079 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's Italian technically, I didn't know

2217
01:39:39,039 --> 01:39:41,479
if like there's a I mean, I don't speak Italian.

2218
01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 5: So associated with it.

2219
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm learning a watra.

2220
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:50,199
Speaker 1: Rolls off the tongue, off the tongue. Yeah, I think

2221
01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:51,159
about Yeah.

2222
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 4: My dad when he ordered drinks, he told me one

2223
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,720
of his favorite drinks when he was in college was

2224
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,239
a Harvey Wallbanger, which I love that name.

2225
01:39:59,279 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 5: I think it's fun.

2226
01:40:00,039 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's good and it's a very classic drink.

2227
01:40:03,039 --> 01:40:06,279
It's vodka orange juice, but it has a little bit

2228
01:40:06,319 --> 01:40:08,359
of Galliano in it, which is kind of that like

2229
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,199
black liquorice.

2230
01:40:09,239 --> 01:40:12,159
Speaker 5: She tastes. So it's not for everybody, ya.

2231
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,079
Speaker 4: It gives you a little bit of a twist on

2232
01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:17,039
the classic uh screwdriver.

2233
01:40:17,239 --> 01:40:18,319
Speaker 5: Screwdriver? Thank you?

2234
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 4: And a lot of bartenders will be like, Harvey Wallbanger,

2235
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,720
it sounds so familiar, but they won't know. But I

2236
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,880
think it's a flex to go into a bar and

2237
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,399
say I want a Harvey Wallbanger, because when the bartender knows,

2238
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,840
they've obviously they're obviously a drinker and has been in

2239
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:34,039
the game for a long time.

2240
01:40:34,079 --> 01:40:36,359
Speaker 5: Because it's an old school drink. I think it's a

2241
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:37,359
classy looking drink.

2242
01:40:37,399 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 4: But let's be real here, it's just vodka orange juice,

2243
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,000
which gives you that sweetness.

2244
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 5: It's totally fair.

2245
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 4: I think that you'd be hard pressed for someone to

2246
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,680
make fun of you for ordering a Harvey Wallbanger.

2247
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 5: Also, it sounds.

2248
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,279
Speaker 2: Cool, yeah, mm hmm, it's uh.

2249
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 1: I also will say two other things that's reminded me of.

2250
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,319
A bartender at a pretty prestigious cocktail bar in New

2251
01:40:57,399 --> 01:41:02,640
York said that they include photos of what the drink

2252
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,880
is going to look like in the glass, because every

2253
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,880
once in a while, a like guy who is maybe

2254
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,439
they're on his first date or something kind of complain

2255
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,319
when you bring it to it. Bring it to him

2256
01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:17,199
in like a feminine glass, Yeah, like a long stem

2257
01:41:17,279 --> 01:41:19,279
glass with like some flowers in it and stuff.

2258
01:41:19,319 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 2: So I was like, they hear that much.

2259
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,039
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, they'll send it back and ask you

2260
01:41:23,079 --> 01:41:24,479
to put it in a different drinks or like in

2261
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:25,640
a tumblr.

2262
01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 5: Glass or I think that happens all the time.

2263
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,159
Speaker 1: And this is like a this is a like well

2264
01:41:30,279 --> 01:41:33,199
known like world, like prestigious cocktail bart and even they

2265
01:41:33,319 --> 01:41:33,920
have to deal.

2266
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 4: With, like the patriarchy run so deep in our society

2267
01:41:39,159 --> 01:41:42,359
you can see it fucking everywhere. The idea that the

2268
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,640
vessel in which your drink comes in could maybe make

2269
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,880
you gay is.

2270
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: Because it's too fat fat glass.

2271
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is so sad to me.

2272
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 4: And I actually I pity people who like bullied whoever,

2273
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,960
like uh, like just going back to Nathan here, like

2274
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,880
that is that is more of a reflection on the

2275
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,000
people that are making fun of you than it ever

2276
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:06,479
is of like whatever you have ordered. And I think

2277
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,039
it is a really sad reflection of someone who thinks

2278
01:42:09,079 --> 01:42:10,960
who wants to make sure that no one thinks they're

2279
01:42:11,079 --> 01:42:13,840
gay by saying like, hey, whatever you order, I am,

2280
01:42:14,119 --> 01:42:16,319
I am observing it with great interest so that I

2281
01:42:16,399 --> 01:42:20,560
can ensure everybody knows how super manly I am. I

2282
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,159
will I'll come for you Yeah, that is sad. That

2283
01:42:25,359 --> 01:42:28,199
is a that is a restricted person who like cannot

2284
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:28,680
be free.

2285
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:33,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, I mean as Nathan or as we

2286
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:36,560
already said, like if you have a friend who's like

2287
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,520
giving you shit for stuff like that, and it's not

2288
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,720
just a bit and it's an ongoing thing, then oh,

2289
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:42,600
maybe they need to get some stuff off there.

2290
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,199
Speaker 5: Order them a Seaman spritzer.

2291
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great and ask the bartender for the

2292
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,079
real thing. They'll know what you mean.

2293
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 3: That's a great thing about getting older is that you

2294
01:42:53,159 --> 01:42:55,119
just be so selective with like, Okay, I'm not gonna

2295
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:56,880
have anyone in my life that's doing that ivy ship

2296
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,800
versus like you're living in the dorms, you're going to

2297
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,039
parties and it's like, well, this is the that's around me,

2298
01:43:01,239 --> 01:43:03,600
and like, wow, a lot of them are assholes, you know,

2299
01:43:04,079 --> 01:43:05,359
like we don't have to deal with that when you

2300
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:05,760
get older.

2301
01:43:06,199 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: I had this conversation with a man the other day.

2302
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't.

2303
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have exercised all of the

2304
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,880
like those people out of our life completely. Like we

2305
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,760
looked around the other day, We're like we really genuinely

2306
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:19,640
love all the people we.

2307
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Hang out with.

2308
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 5: That's wonderful.

2309
01:43:22,119 --> 01:43:25,199
Speaker 4: I think that's also an evolution, right, Like maybe your

2310
01:43:25,239 --> 01:43:28,079
first stage of friendship is like, hey, I'm.

2311
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 5: In middle school.

2312
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 4: Whoever's around me, I hope they like me because I'm

2313
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:32,680
very sensitive.

2314
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 5: I am a baby.

2315
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 4: And then the second evolution of that is college, which

2316
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,439
is like, I know a little bit about myself, but

2317
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,880
I also desperately want to be liked by you. And

2318
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,079
the final stage is somewhere around mid thirties, where you're like, actually,

2319
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:47,359
don't give a flaming fuck yeah anymore about anything. I'll

2320
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,880
cut you out so fast because it's my comfort in

2321
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,239
my happiness is pure.

2322
01:43:52,239 --> 01:43:54,119
Speaker 5: And I think that is like the ultimate victory.

2323
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Charmander, Charmelian, Charzard. It would be old fashioned.

2324
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:04,560
Uh huh uh a sazarak okay. And then as the

2325
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,039
chars are, some people might argue the sasak is the

2326
01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:07,439
chars are.

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01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,039
Speaker 2: I could. I would hear that out. I would hear

2328
01:44:10,119 --> 01:44:17,359
them argue with them, you are so gay, God, damn

2329
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,520
what you look like? Come back.

2330
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Like dick shaped glass.

2331
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not. I'll do that guy in college, Ye,

2332
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:34,439
twenty of those guys.

2333
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 1: Slam and ass left and right, all right, Mary, I

2334
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,119
want to read this one from Yeah.

2335
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,399
Speaker 2: Got you? I did Zephyr.

2336
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,520
Speaker 1: I did cut out a bit just for time constraints,

2337
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,880
but I left the spirit intact.

2338
01:44:49,159 --> 01:44:49,359
Speaker 5: Cool.

2339
01:44:49,399 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 4: I know exactly this is high fire Escape team. This

2340
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,920
is Zephyr from Mary's Mary Monday twitch streams.

2341
01:44:55,079 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 2: How cool.

2342
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,119
Speaker 5: Thank you for I think I told you to do this.

2343
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:01,439
This is very cool. People who watch me play.

2344
01:45:03,039 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 4: Silent Hill right now on my Monday streams asked me

2345
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:07,760
questions and I said, that's a fire escape question.

2346
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:08,199
Speaker 5: Send it it.

2347
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 4: They also said something really nice about Kneval, which I

2348
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,239
think is worth mentioning. Create gaming stream of my own

2349
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:21,199
called Crossing Chords on YouTube. It ran for four years

2350
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,319
and it was an absolute blast, and I think that's

2351
01:45:25,359 --> 01:45:28,439
really great, Canevil. Not only I'm glad it inspired you,

2352
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,439
it actually inspired us in many ways to make this podcast.

2353
01:45:32,359 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 5: One of the things is, like Mike and.

2354
01:45:34,079 --> 01:45:37,359
Speaker 4: Dan were very close from working, especially in the New

2355
01:45:37,399 --> 01:45:40,039
York office. You guys got really close. But what made

2356
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:43,239
Mike and I very close was Knieval. We worked in

2357
01:45:43,279 --> 01:45:45,279
the office together like everybody does. We all have like

2358
01:45:45,399 --> 01:45:48,760
work companions and friendships, but it was Knieval. I think

2359
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,279
that's like when we really learned and tested our friendship.

2360
01:45:51,279 --> 01:45:52,520
It's like where we had our first fight.

2361
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:53,279
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2362
01:45:53,359 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so where we had our first fight.

2363
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 4: It's where we like really kind of bonded and learned

2364
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,840
to trust each other to a certain degree. Kannevl's kind

2365
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,439
of like where it all start. I think without Caneval

2366
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,039
this podcast would not exist, and probably not so you.

2367
01:46:04,079 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Were out all the time together, but like in terms

2368
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,680
of like professional creative endeavors, yeah, I think we learned

2369
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,640
where we can definitely push each other a bit too much.

2370
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,119
Maybe not these days, but at that time I was

2371
01:46:15,159 --> 01:46:15,880
more of a hot head.

2372
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:18,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm a button pusher, there's no question.

2373
01:46:18,319 --> 01:46:21,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I know I've learned boundaries from our friendship

2374
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,800
where I've recognized that I will almost say anything for

2375
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:25,239
a laugh.

2376
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:26,239
Speaker 2: And it is.

2377
01:46:27,279 --> 01:46:29,159
Speaker 4: It has happened multiple times in my life where my

2378
01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:31,760
friends have said, hey, you actually hurt my feelings and

2379
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,560
I'm like, I need to fucking sit down.

2380
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 3: You have said so many awful things about me, and

2381
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,199
I've never had my feelings hurt.

2382
01:46:37,239 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 5: Why. I think it's I know, Dan, you are very patient. Well,

2383
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,119
I think we're both patient with each other. I'll say

2384
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:43,960
that because you're actually a real son of a bitch.

2385
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:47,520
I have said some vile things to you this year.

2386
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:49,600
I do believe that you've earned them.

2387
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: But I dick stones.

2388
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 4: You could have messaged me on the side and been like, actually,

2389
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,640
that was very rude and possibly too too personal, and.

2390
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:58,560
Speaker 5: You've never done it.

2391
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:00,319
Speaker 2: I've never even considered did.

2392
01:47:00,279 --> 01:47:05,239
Speaker 5: For a second a smile on your face something I

2393
01:47:05,319 --> 01:47:10,359
think human soul. I thought to kill your dog during

2394
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:11,359
good of the year.

2395
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,239
Speaker 4: No, I extanded it really well, and the next morning,

2396
01:47:14,279 --> 01:47:16,760
as we were like packing up our ship, I said,

2397
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,800
I am sorry I threatened to kill your dog.

2398
01:47:19,399 --> 01:47:21,239
Speaker 5: No, I would never kill your dog, right, And Dan

2399
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,720
was like, dog, don't even mention it.

2400
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,079
Speaker 4: How me get in my hooper and everything, And I

2401
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:30,119
was like, I'm really sorry I threatened to kill your dog.

2402
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 3: I still think about You're not important enough to be

2403
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,800
this annoying. I think that is one of the most

2404
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,840
perfectly crafted insults I've ever heard. My Yeah, that's really good, fantastic.

2405
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 5: It's a really brutal one.

2406
01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 4: I heard somebody else write in and say, like, uh

2407
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:48,119
that earlier we had someone write in and say your

2408
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:50,399
soul is cat piss is now in my lexicon, And

2409
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,000
I think that that's also really sweet that other people

2410
01:47:53,079 --> 01:47:57,720
have found my insults to you not only tantalizing and brutal,

2411
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,279
but something that could actually be utilized in their every

2412
01:48:00,359 --> 01:48:02,479
day You sent to them like go forth and prosper.

2413
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,239
Speaker 1: But you're like the Tony Hinchcliff of fire Escape, is

2414
01:48:05,239 --> 01:48:07,840
what I say, Mary?

2415
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:08,279
Speaker 5: Is not you?

2416
01:48:10,399 --> 01:48:15,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the roast specialist. Yeah, I'm the really like cerebral,

2417
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,880
intelligent joke the podcast comic.

2418
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 2: What if I used the prop.

2419
01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 7: Eight know?

2420
01:48:28,279 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't know who I am?

2421
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:30,199
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2422
01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, people always say I'm like a mix of uh Bilburr,

2423
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:42,159
a bit of George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and yeah all

2424
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:45,159
the big ones all did we finish the question or.

2425
01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:47,119
Speaker 5: Onto the question?

2426
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 4: During Mary's stream last night, I asked a question she

2427
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,199
thought would be good for the podcast That is exactly

2428
01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:55,399
what happened. What is the cruelest thing you have encountered

2429
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,680
in a game? Just a total dick move by the developers?

2430
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,039
For example, she is in the middle of Silent Hill

2431
01:49:01,079 --> 01:49:04,600
to remake and opening a complicated box involving multiple locks

2432
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,600
of keys scattered around. She finally opens it and the

2433
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,520
box is empty, And I did I looked right into

2434
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,000
the camera and was like, that is a real, like

2435
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:14,359
son of a bitch move to make me go through

2436
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,800
all of that for an empty box anything else?

2437
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:18,279
Speaker 5: Zephyr, Thank you, Zephyr.

2438
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 2: I got a good one.

2439
01:49:20,159 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 3: Okay, the coreux seeds in breadth the wild there being

2440
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:28,000
a golden piece of shit that does nothing. Yeah, it's

2441
01:49:28,199 --> 01:49:31,840
the craziest nine things you have to get, and you

2442
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,880
assume it's got to be a fucking master's sword you

2443
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,560
can surf on across the land.

2444
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,079
Speaker 5: Like an unbreakable sword.

2445
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a fierce deity mask that. Yeah. No,

2446
01:49:40,399 --> 01:49:42,239
it's a golden piece of shit that you can't do anything.

2447
01:49:42,319 --> 01:49:45,359
What do they actually call it? What is its item name?

2448
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,000
I forget? Yeah, I don't we want to talk about that?

2449
01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:49,760
So fucking funny the uh.

2450
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,039
Speaker 1: I guess anything like Dark from software does that often,

2451
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,520
especially like I feel like the first time I because

2452
01:49:59,359 --> 01:50:01,279
if you're talking like the evolution of dark souls, you

2453
01:50:01,359 --> 01:50:04,439
can't not start with demon souls. Demon souls did some

2454
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,600
of that, but it was really sends Fortress and dark

2455
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,960
Souls where they could tell when you're on your last

2456
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,880
legs and you're out of flasks, and then all of

2457
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,880
a sudden, this boulder just comes out of nowhere down

2458
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,319
a stairs stairway and smashes into you, and you're dead.

2459
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,199
They do that all the time, and it's just like

2460
01:50:18,359 --> 01:50:20,800
the game is too well crafted for me to get pissed,

2461
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,079
But it's just really fucking funny as well.

2462
01:50:24,119 --> 01:50:26,359
Speaker 3: Is it a Ocarina the Fire Temple where there's those

2463
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,199
doors where it just looks like a normal door and

2464
01:50:28,319 --> 01:50:29,000
just falls over you.

2465
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it like headbuts you and wobbles. Yeah, there's

2466
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,920
a lot of Zelda stuff, you like even Metaphor does

2467
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,800
the monsters that are living in treasure chests that then

2468
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,199
come out and suck up your whole party.

2469
01:50:41,359 --> 01:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like.

2470
01:50:46,359 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: Arcane does that a lot in like Prey the mimic stuff,

2471
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,319
or they'll just put explosive barrels all around this one

2472
01:50:53,399 --> 01:50:55,079
thing that you need to get to very carefully in

2473
01:50:55,159 --> 01:50:55,880
a tense situation.

2474
01:50:56,199 --> 01:50:59,199
Speaker 4: Disrespectful too. I'm trying to think of like a nice

2475
01:50:59,199 --> 01:50:59,880
old school exam.

2476
01:51:00,039 --> 01:51:00,159
Speaker 7: Well.

2477
01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:02,520
Speaker 4: I think that culturally, one of the biggest ones was

2478
01:51:03,039 --> 01:51:06,239
mass effect of like having a game franchise that was

2479
01:51:06,279 --> 01:51:10,119
all about choice, and then the final game had basically

2480
01:51:10,319 --> 01:51:14,119
three very similar ends and so I think that was

2481
01:51:14,279 --> 01:51:16,279
a bit of defeatist to have a game that was

2482
01:51:16,359 --> 01:51:19,399
all about story and then just not have that that matter.

2483
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: I think yeah, that was more they fucked up, yeah,

2484
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:26,720
than like the yeah messing with you, but I it is.

2485
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,319
Speaker 2: But I mean I think.

2486
01:51:30,279 --> 01:51:32,239
Speaker 1: Zelda does that a lot. It's like, oh, look at

2487
01:51:32,279 --> 01:51:33,760
this great item you got and it's just like a

2488
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:34,600
wooden stick.

2489
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like not so triumphant, you know.

2490
01:51:38,279 --> 01:51:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I win Waker did stuff like that. Often there's

2491
01:51:45,039 --> 01:51:47,279
from software just all over it, like Eldon Ring does

2492
01:51:47,319 --> 01:51:49,159
that a lot. You'll do a really difficult dungeon and

2493
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:51,039
then the reards like they have to know this sucks.

2494
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,319
Speaker 3: Even like linked to the Pass where it's like, oh,

2495
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,039
this thing hits you and then you're a fucking bunny.

2496
01:51:55,079 --> 01:51:57,119
They can't do anything. It's like, oh great, this is fun.

2497
01:51:57,239 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 7: You know.

2498
01:51:58,399 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 1: It's like the beginning of Indie when that dude ditches

2499
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,119
you and then he runs through and it turns out

2500
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:05,800
he just got speared. Yeah, Like it's the shit like

2501
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,039
that where you think you're out and then all of

2502
01:52:08,039 --> 01:52:12,560
a sudden they fuck you up. But yeah, there's definitely

2503
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:14,880
I enjoy when developers can pull that off because like

2504
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,079
usually they it's in a game that is so well

2505
01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:20,960
crafted otherwise that it works, it's funny and then not

2506
01:52:21,159 --> 01:52:23,159
actually frustrating. Yeah.

2507
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think that metal Gear would do that

2508
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,279
to the player. Does that ever happen in metal Gear?

2509
01:52:28,319 --> 01:52:30,439
Where it's like setting you up for a big thing,

2510
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,199
then it's like, ah, go fuck yourself.

2511
01:52:33,359 --> 01:52:34,239
Speaker 2: Uh there's fun thing.

2512
01:52:34,279 --> 01:52:34,600
Speaker 7: Oh you O.

2513
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,199
Speaker 3: There's stuff where it's like, uh, I think it was

2514
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:39,479
in the old ones where you would get an item

2515
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,079
but it would have like like a snake in it

2516
01:52:42,199 --> 01:52:44,199
or worm like you get like I'm getting this wrong,

2517
01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:45,680
but it's like you get an apple and it would

2518
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:47,159
have like a worm in it or something, and it

2519
01:52:47,159 --> 01:52:49,039
would go through and eat all of your rations and

2520
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:51,159
eat all of your health items until you realize it

2521
01:52:51,279 --> 01:52:53,079
was doing that and you threw it out. Uh Meddle

2522
01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:54,720
Gear Solid does that where you get something and there's

2523
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,199
a bomb on it, so like you don't even know

2524
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,199
until you hear this beeping and you look through your imagees.

2525
01:52:58,840 --> 01:52:59,279
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that?

2526
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 3: Oh the thing I put if it's a fucking bombit

2527
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,840
and you gotta throw it out, Like, yeah, there's some

2528
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:03,560
fun stuff like that.

2529
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime it does.

2530
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,560
Speaker 3: The Fourth Wall type stuff where like you know, the

2531
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,039
the Sorrows River and Meddle of your Solid three where

2532
01:53:11,039 --> 01:53:13,159
you have to like basically just kill yourself and at

2533
01:53:13,199 --> 01:53:15,239
the game over screen you have to revive yourself.

2534
01:53:15,319 --> 01:53:16,159
Speaker 2: Like weird stuff like that.

2535
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think of other ones that are

2536
01:53:21,159 --> 01:53:23,520
just like massive fuck us. I'm sure there's even achievements

2537
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,359
that are also fuck used, right where it's just like

2538
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:29,319
the waste of time achievement, or like you've wasted your

2539
01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:34,039
life trying to get all these pieces and bits and bobs,

2540
01:53:34,079 --> 01:53:36,119
and it's just like we know that you've put way

2541
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:37,520
too much time into this game, sir.

2542
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you, Zephyr and Nathan and Joseph.

2543
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,319
All right, Well that's our last episode of twenty twenty four.

2544
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,920
We're three away from one hundred. We gotta start making

2545
01:53:52,079 --> 01:53:55,239
plans for that. We gotta got some talks, but we gotta.

2546
01:53:55,359 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 2: We'll do something. It's funny, yeah, yeah, we have to

2547
01:53:58,720 --> 01:53:59,279
have a gimmick.

2548
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,159
Speaker 1: Spent a good year? What were your favorite Dan? What

2549
01:54:03,319 --> 01:54:07,479
was your favorite fire Escape moment? Can you remember from

2550
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,479
twenty It's.

2551
01:54:08,319 --> 01:54:10,119
Speaker 3: Always just such a blur, I mean, but the thing

2552
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:11,760
that always stands out is the Game of the year,

2553
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,920
like having you guys here, and yeah, you know, just

2554
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,039
the way we cram so much fun stuff into just

2555
01:54:16,159 --> 01:54:19,239
like a short weekend where like, you know, it's nice

2556
01:54:19,279 --> 01:54:21,199
dinners like the Tyson fight this time was a nice

2557
01:54:21,239 --> 01:54:23,800
thing to be timed with that and then just hanging out,

2558
01:54:24,119 --> 01:54:26,560
you know, sitting on the deck making a fire dogs.

2559
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a fun tradition and I look forward

2560
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:29,439
to it every year now.

2561
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. So that stands out. We got

2562
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:33,560
to go to Portland this year too.

2563
01:54:34,039 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that was special for me because much like

2564
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,479
Mike's party last year, I think it's very special for

2565
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:47,479
us to do something that actually isn't about the podcast

2566
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,760
or about our jobs, but just about seeing each other

2567
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:53,279
and reminding each other that we actually like each other's

2568
01:54:53,319 --> 01:54:55,439
company and we like spending time with each other, and

2569
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:56,720
I like spending time with your.

2570
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 5: Partners, and it's just kind of great to.

2571
01:55:01,079 --> 01:55:03,239
Speaker 4: It is always wonderful, no matter what the excuse is,

2572
01:55:03,279 --> 01:55:05,359
whether it's the podcast, whether it's Game of the Year.

2573
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,039
I love seeing you, But I think the most special

2574
01:55:08,119 --> 01:55:09,439
is when it's like, do you guys just want to

2575
01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:12,800
come to Portland and see this crazy double waterfall with me,

2576
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:14,560
and you're like yeah, and.

2577
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,319
Speaker 3: We're all good about like knowing what trip, like if

2578
01:55:18,319 --> 01:55:20,479
we're doing a trip like the New York meetup thing,

2579
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,520
so like that's a fire skift trip. We're making content,

2580
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,640
we're doing side stuff for the Patreon. But then there's

2581
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,279
one two where it's like this is a friend trip.

2582
01:55:26,359 --> 01:55:28,000
You know, this is like we don't even like consider

2583
01:55:28,079 --> 01:55:30,079
like let's squirrel away and make a podcast or whatever,

2584
01:55:30,119 --> 01:55:33,600
Like I think it's important in what we do todes.

2585
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,119
Speaker 5: We didn't even take a photo.

2586
01:55:35,319 --> 01:55:38,279
Speaker 4: There's only one photo of us from the Portland trip,

2587
01:55:38,319 --> 01:55:40,199
and I actually don't know whose camera it's on, but

2588
01:55:40,279 --> 01:55:43,880
it's at night and we're at a fire. Dan is

2589
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,760
wearing nothing but a towel ands on.

2590
01:55:48,199 --> 01:55:48,239
Speaker 7: No.

2591
01:55:48,479 --> 01:55:52,279
Speaker 5: I had a like you could just be laying out

2592
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:53,520
long at any time.

2593
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 3: But it looks weird because we all got out of

2594
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,199
the pool and we said, oh, we're gonna go sit

2595
01:56:01,239 --> 01:56:03,239
by the fire, and so I grabbed a beer. I

2596
01:56:03,279 --> 01:56:05,079
went by the fire like we said, and you guys

2597
01:56:05,159 --> 01:56:07,600
went back and changed change. So all of a sudden,

2598
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,119
you guys are wearing normal ass clothes. I'm in like

2599
01:56:10,439 --> 01:56:13,159
towels are a robe with swim trunks underneath. There's no

2600
01:56:13,319 --> 01:56:15,600
dong risk there. But I just it looks weird in

2601
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:16,920
the photo, me just full on.

2602
01:56:17,279 --> 01:56:17,439
Speaker 1: You know.

2603
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,039
Speaker 5: That's why it never came out.

2604
01:56:19,359 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 2: It's because it looks like I'm just being weird.

2605
01:56:21,319 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 5: Looks like you're just naked for some reason, and everybody

2606
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:25,600
else is clothed.

2607
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,399
Speaker 3: They are full swim trunks down underneath. I'd risk no

2608
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:29,239
dong slippage.

2609
01:56:29,479 --> 01:56:30,359
Speaker 5: There's no proof.

2610
01:56:31,359 --> 01:56:34,399
Speaker 1: Yep, I got my camera cannot look crystal clear?

2611
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2612
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 5: Can I send it out?

2613
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,119
Speaker 2: Send it to me? Why is it still focusing on me?

2614
01:56:41,199 --> 01:56:42,560
What is my camera down? Your new camera?

2615
01:56:43,319 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 5: Send it? Send it to me.

2616
01:56:46,359 --> 01:56:49,119
Speaker 2: And you can't see it. You can't tell from the photo.

2617
01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: But my my shirt pocket and a lot of creases

2618
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:55,920
in my clothes are full of goldfish because Dan kept

2619
01:56:56,359 --> 01:57:01,439
filling my creases with goldfish. I forgot about like fat

2620
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:06,000
shirt pocket of goldfish. There's all four of us.

2621
01:57:06,359 --> 01:57:09,319
Speaker 3: Okay, nice, one of these days did change at that point?

2622
01:57:09,359 --> 01:57:10,640
Am I still just wearing here?

2623
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 5: Now?

2624
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,319
Speaker 2: You changed in the marine layer?

2625
01:57:12,399 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: Sure?

2626
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:18,199
Speaker 2: I think? Okay, seamoon right there? You can't see it. Yeah,

2627
01:57:18,239 --> 01:57:19,760
It's been a fun year. It was a busy year.

2628
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to next year to travel nearly as

2629
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,439
much for leisure stuff. I get to just hang out more.

2630
01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm hoping. I mean, I'll be traveling for work. I

2631
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,800
mind up for early in the year. I think I

2632
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,319
actually might just be able to be home for a while.

2633
01:57:32,399 --> 01:57:32,960
That'll be nice.

2634
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hopefully soon we'll have my full Irish citizenship

2635
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,079
and thus EU citizenship. I think I'm at the final

2636
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:44,319
step based on stuff I've read. Uh, now I just

2637
01:57:44,359 --> 01:57:46,399
have to fight a leprechaun and then beat on nice

2638
01:57:46,439 --> 01:57:51,920
and then I'm a citizen. Going to Ireland. I think

2639
01:57:52,039 --> 01:57:54,079
in the spring, maybe early summer.

2640
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: Nice.

2641
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,279
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you go maybe get even more annoying about wine.

2642
01:57:58,399 --> 01:57:59,520
That's my new year's resolution.

2643
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got I love it. You should text my

2644
01:58:01,279 --> 01:58:04,760
dad more. Yeah, I've been about wine.

2645
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:06,319
Speaker 5: About wine.

2646
01:58:06,359 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Me and him talk about wine a lot. Yeah, it

2647
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:10,720
would really brighten his hotel room to have does have

2648
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:15,000
nice some veno, just just wine and cigarette smoke. I

2649
01:58:15,079 --> 01:58:17,159
want to get the hotel address and his room number

2650
01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:18,520
and send him bottles of wine.

2651
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I know.

2652
01:58:21,359 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 5: May he would hate that. Maybe it'll it'll be what

2653
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,159
propels him to go get a house. He has to

2654
01:58:26,239 --> 01:58:27,840
get out to get out.

2655
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Of this space the house, and then he sells that

2656
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,159
house to keep it from doing that. Yees.

2657
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,279
Speaker 1: He goes into a bunker, which I've already stocked with wine.

2658
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,439
Speaker 3: That's that's the Pokemon evolution of fall record living situations,

2659
01:58:38,479 --> 01:58:39,720
as bunker is the last one.

2660
01:58:40,039 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to advertise a bunker that someone can live

2661
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,119
in and purposely get him to move in. It turns

2662
01:58:46,159 --> 01:58:50,039
out just my wine cellar you live. Yeah, yep, we

2663
01:58:50,119 --> 01:58:50,399
both do.

2664
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:53,279
Speaker 2: Mary, What do you have going on outside of the

2665
01:58:53,399 --> 01:58:54,079
show of ours?

2666
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 5: Trying to finish uh?

2667
01:58:58,199 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: But up Silent Hill too.

2668
01:59:00,119 --> 01:59:02,159
Speaker 4: Was trying to say Portal Silent Hill two. I don't

2669
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:03,119
know where Portal came from.

2670
01:59:03,159 --> 01:59:05,119
Speaker 2: They're very similar, same developer.

2671
01:59:05,199 --> 01:59:11,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, same quirky humor. Anyway, I'll probably try and finish

2672
01:59:11,159 --> 01:59:11,880
Silent Hill two.

2673
01:59:12,319 --> 01:59:12,439
Speaker 5: Uh.

2674
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,359
Speaker 4: And because it's usually I like to have a game

2675
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,039
while I'm on break, I need to actually find the

2676
01:59:19,319 --> 01:59:21,439
game that I'm going to pour lots of hours into

2677
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,960
to beat before. It usually is a Zelda, because you know,

2678
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,840
you could just put mad hours into Azelda and enjoy it.

2679
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,319
But I don't have a backlog of a Zelda that

2680
01:59:31,399 --> 01:59:34,640
I need to get through, so I'm actually not sure

2681
01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:37,600
what my Christmas break game should be.

2682
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,039
Speaker 2: Where you at with Mario stuff?

2683
01:59:42,039 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 5: I like the Mario. I think I'm more of a

2684
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,800
Metroid Vania person, is like my favorite place to be.

2685
01:59:48,039 --> 01:59:49,199
But I love obviously.

2686
01:59:49,479 --> 01:59:50,479
Speaker 2: Do you play Metroid Dread?

2687
01:59:51,119 --> 01:59:51,279
Speaker 1: Uh?

2688
01:59:52,319 --> 01:59:53,079
Speaker 5: Was that the remake?

2689
01:59:55,359 --> 01:59:55,479
Speaker 8: Oh?

2690
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:59,119
Speaker 5: I haven't wait, Sorry it was, but it was a

2691
01:59:59,239 --> 02:00:00,600
remake of the original.

2692
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 2: It's original zero mission that they have done remakes.

2693
02:00:04,479 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: But they did metroc Prime remaster, but is a brand

2694
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,000
new one switch specific new one.

2695
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 5: I think that could be good for me.

2696
02:00:12,279 --> 02:00:13,439
Speaker 2: I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

2697
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 4: Okay, let me let me look it up on the switch,

2698
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,279
because I yeah, I usually I take my steam Deck everywhere,

2699
02:00:19,319 --> 02:00:20,239
so it's kind of weird.

2700
02:00:20,119 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 5: To be like dusting off the old switch.

2701
02:00:23,239 --> 02:00:24,399
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't.

2702
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 5: I haven't looked at that in four years. Like I've

2703
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:29,079
forgotten what it even is.

2704
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,399
Speaker 3: I got my year in review stuff from all the

2705
02:00:31,439 --> 02:00:33,960
big platforms. It's like, I barely touched this thing this year.

2706
02:00:34,119 --> 02:00:35,039
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

2707
02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:38,439
Speaker 5: It's still outdated. It just has no value anymore.

2708
02:00:39,159 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 2: Dan, what are you have going on?

2709
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:46,359
Speaker 3: Odd holiday stuff? But yeah, I'm on Blue Sky, Instagram, Twitch,

2710
02:00:47,239 --> 02:00:50,119
I do think. Yeah, looking like next year, early next year,

2711
02:00:50,119 --> 02:00:51,880
I might be able to stream a little more frequently.

2712
02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:55,119
So yeah, hoping to take a little easy after a

2713
02:00:55,239 --> 02:00:55,840
very busy year.

2714
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 5: I played dread God. Damn it. I played the shit

2715
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:02,840
out of this game. It's really good, it's really fun.

2716
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:03,479
Moss fights.

2717
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 4: The last boss fight is like such a song. At

2718
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:07,039
some point I was like, I don't know if I

2719
02:01:07,079 --> 02:01:07,960
want to beat this anymore.

2720
02:01:08,479 --> 02:01:09,439
Speaker 5: What else do you got for me?

2721
02:01:10,399 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 3: Mmmmmmm? Turn to think games from recent I mean, are

2722
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:16,439
you up for going old?

2723
02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:17,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2724
02:01:18,439 --> 02:01:20,279
Speaker 2: Interesting? Okay, so that's Zelda.

2725
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 4: She played Zelda like old school Zelda's, but I think

2726
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:24,920
I've caught up. I don't know if there's any Zelda's

2727
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:25,960
I haven't played anymore.

2728
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:28,479
Speaker 3: I would say Snake Eater if there wasn't a remake

2729
02:01:28,479 --> 02:01:33,399
coming out soon. Obviously, got Resident Evil taken care of.

2730
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 5: I always like looking for like a hidden gem that

2731
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,279
you could just pour like thirty hours into.

2732
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking at my top one hundred games of

2733
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:44,039
all time.

2734
02:01:44,479 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you find one here?

2735
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you. I want to go down

2736
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:49,760
until she hasn't played one Okay, well, I mean Mario,

2737
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:51,079
it's gonna be a lot of old stuff.

2738
02:01:51,199 --> 02:01:52,079
Speaker 5: It's all Mario.

2739
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:56,239
Speaker 3: All right, here's my top one hundred games of all time. Okay,

2740
02:01:56,359 --> 02:01:59,560
here's the list. We're gonna start from the top. Bret

2741
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,800
the While, Link to the Past, Yeah, okay, Mario World, Meddle,

2742
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:05,399
your Solid Soul Calle or some of these.

2743
02:02:05,479 --> 02:02:15,119
Speaker 5: I've never played any uh not, Mario. I've never played

2744
02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:16,600
a Metal I've never played a Metal game.

2745
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:19,079
Speaker 1: Do you know the story at all? I know that

2746
02:02:19,439 --> 02:02:20,640
nobody knows the story.

2747
02:02:22,199 --> 02:02:22,399
Speaker 5: Try.

2748
02:02:24,439 --> 02:02:26,399
Speaker 2: Kayla just went through all them for the first time.

2749
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:27,439
Speaker 5: And what else you got?

2750
02:02:30,199 --> 02:02:31,159
Speaker 2: My caveat that.

2751
02:02:31,439 --> 02:02:35,159
Speaker 1: I think I would be very interested to see what Okay,

2752
02:02:35,199 --> 02:02:37,960
I guess if you play the Blue Point Collection, then

2753
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,760
the controls are.

2754
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,319
Speaker 2: A bit more collection thing.

2755
02:02:40,479 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming that's what Kayla played.

2756
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, she played the Master Collection. Okay. Do you play

2757
02:02:46,039 --> 02:02:48,600
Link between Worlds? Marry the three D s? Zelda?

2758
02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 1: Do you go into paintings as like a two dimensional.

2759
02:02:52,399 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 5: I started it, I don't think I finished it, which

2760
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:59,239
is odd one. Okay, finish it.

2761
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,279
Speaker 2: It's it's really, really, really good. I have a lot

2762
02:03:02,279 --> 02:03:07,000
of old games on this list. Weird play Total War

2763
02:03:07,039 --> 02:03:07,720
Warhammer three?

2764
02:03:09,319 --> 02:03:10,159
Speaker 5: What else you got.

2765
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 2: And super very old Mary.

2766
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: We should finish resume before remake sometime soon.

2767
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Dude, you, why is that on me?

2768
02:03:26,279 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 5: You're the busier one.

2769
02:03:28,039 --> 02:03:29,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm not busier than you are.

2770
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:31,439
Speaker 5: I think we're both equally busy.

2771
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 2: But we got we should.

2772
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: Let's finish finish.

2773
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm away this week.

2774
02:03:36,279 --> 02:03:37,479
Speaker 5: I'm free next week.

2775
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I should be as well.

2776
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,399
Speaker 5: All right, let's finish it. Dan, name me more games.

2777
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,439
Speaker 3: Look to my entire list and they're just all very old.

2778
02:03:47,239 --> 02:03:49,399
I don't know if they're the ones you want to go.

2779
02:03:49,479 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 2: For right now. Like play like Bloodstain. If you like

2780
02:03:52,039 --> 02:03:54,239
Metro a Venus, that sounds awesome, that's a really good one.

2781
02:03:54,319 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I really think God Med you're would be

2782
02:03:57,079 --> 02:03:58,279
so fun to hear you talk about.

2783
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would be able to stomach

2784
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,680
a lot of the like dated design stuff, but.

2785
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,199
Speaker 2: That's interesting to hear about. Yeah, it is.

2786
02:04:06,359 --> 02:04:08,199
Speaker 1: But I just don't even know if Mary would fight

2787
02:04:08,279 --> 02:04:08,560
through it.

2788
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:12,039
Speaker 5: I don't think I would. I've played I've played Ritual

2789
02:04:12,119 --> 02:04:12,600
of the Night.

2790
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Speaker 2: That's the one, that's the main one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've played that. It's so good, The evolutions of

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the character crazy. All right, I'll keep thinking, and then

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I'll let you know the next time we record. What

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game I poured forty hours into?

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Speaker 2: You played the Mario Galaxies?

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Speaker 5: I mean I've played Mario Galaxy.

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Speaker 2: Is there more? There's Galaxy too, which is better?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 3: Maybe that'd be kind of you'd have to pull out

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a Wii for that, a little forgettable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I don't think metal Gear is right there.

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02:04:44,359 --> 02:04:46,199
You would love your top mettal Gear.

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Speaker 3: No, No, because that would feel too much like a project.

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I think I don't know if it is a lot,

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it's so dense.

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02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 1: Although I have been thinking about replaying Phantom Pain lately.

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02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:00,359
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about doing peace Walker. Oh interesting, do

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02:05:00,439 --> 02:05:00,960
you have to pain?

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02:05:01,039 --> 02:05:01,159
Speaker 1: Though?

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02:05:01,239 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 2: Like has that first like ten hours?

2812
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:04,239
Speaker 1: That could be a slog, But then once you're in

2813
02:05:04,319 --> 02:05:06,680
the like open world gameplay loop, then it's great.

2814
02:05:07,119 --> 02:05:10,039
Speaker 5: What's the final evolution of metal Gear? Which game.

2815
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 3: Four just kind of ties everything together? I mean, if

2816
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,000
the evolution of gameplay, it's five, But as far as

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02:05:18,039 --> 02:05:19,640
just the metal geariness, it's four.

2818
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:23,960
Speaker 1: I think I'd say Snake Eaters Charmellion, and then Charmander

2819
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:24,760
would be the first game.

2820
02:05:25,319 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 4: I wonder if Slime Rancher got better. Maybe I'll just

2821
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:31,920
pour forty hours to some kind of cozy ranch game. Yeah,

2822
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:32,920
that sounds awesome.

2823
02:05:33,159 --> 02:05:35,399
Speaker 1: Stard just dropped another update like last week.

2824
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 5: Did they though, because now they're just release updates.

2825
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,079
Speaker 4: But it's the same game, and you're just like, but

2826
02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:41,920
you can fuck in it and it's just like I

2827
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:42,840
don't care, Like.

2828
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 5: What what else do you have?

2829
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: That's the one that brought me back.

2830
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 2: Bully.

2831
02:05:47,159 --> 02:05:48,199
Speaker 5: I've never played Bully.

2832
02:05:48,399 --> 02:05:51,399
Speaker 2: Bully's really good. Okami. There's HD versions of that.

2833
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 4: I played Ocamy okay, Okay, I was proud of beating.

2834
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,000
I beat that way late in my life. But I

2835
02:05:57,119 --> 02:05:59,520
have I have completed Okami.

2836
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,279
Speaker 2: It's eight Paper, Mario thousand your Door.

2837
02:06:03,159 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 5: I don't think I've done Paper, but they.

2838
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,199
Speaker 3: Got that remake and it's on got that remake and

2839
02:06:07,279 --> 02:06:10,520
it's it's really it's still very funny, I think, Mary,

2840
02:06:11,039 --> 02:06:14,880
but it is. And you know, I don't like RPGs,

2841
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,600
but the charm and the gameplay, like the turn based

2842
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:21,840
stuff is very good. I know, I know, like I

2843
02:06:22,079 --> 02:06:23,880
don't like rbgs either, but this is a good one.

2844
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:25,239
Speaker 2: All right.

2845
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Just let's offline the rest of this. You got you

2846
02:06:28,079 --> 02:06:28,920
got suggestions.

2847
02:06:29,039 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 3: We're not done yet now you're still scrolling through giant

2848
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:32,359
lists of games.

2849
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, great radio, But anyway, thank you to everybody. Uh,

2850
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:39,680
just backchecking a bit. You can go to fires right

2851
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,039
into Fires, No, that game is not that great.

2852
02:06:43,359 --> 02:06:44,359
Speaker 2: Fire Escape Cast.

2853
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2857
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:57,520
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2858
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:00,520
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2859
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,960
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2860
02:07:03,159 --> 02:07:05,920
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2861
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:09,039
saving up for that trip. But for the people who

2862
02:07:09,159 --> 02:07:11,079
have been patrons for a while, people who've just been

2863
02:07:11,119 --> 02:07:12,760
listening for a while, thank you so much. As we

2864
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,800
close out another year. It's been crazy that we have

2865
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:19,159
done ninety seven episodes. Considering we're a bi weekly show,

2866
02:07:19,199 --> 02:07:22,720
that's quite a long time now, heaving forward to twenty five,

2867
02:07:23,359 --> 02:07:25,840
twenty twenty five, No not shen, these are all terrible suggestions.

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02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:27,199
Speaker 2: Replay Outer Wilds. Mary.

2869
02:07:27,319 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 1: They had that new DLC and they have like the

2870
02:07:30,199 --> 02:07:32,520
they have like twelve hours of new content, and that

2871
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,880
two years ago that DLC that came out Forgetting It

2872
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:35,359
was called.

2873
02:07:35,479 --> 02:07:38,000
Speaker 5: I think I would like to replay Outer Wild's like

2874
02:07:38,039 --> 02:07:39,079
what a fantastic here.

2875
02:07:39,119 --> 02:07:42,119
Speaker 1: I think I've forgotten enough about the intricacies of the

2876
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:44,079
puzzles that it would still be a bit.

2877
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 2: Like discovering it.

2878
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 1: I think I would have to replay like how to

2879
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,159
I remember how you eventually have to like get to

2880
02:07:49,319 --> 02:07:52,159
the final area. I don't think that I'll ever forget that.

2881
02:07:53,479 --> 02:07:55,840
But there's there's my new Shawn different planets that I have,

2882
02:07:56,079 --> 02:07:59,359
you know, left my memory. Yeah, you can go to

2883
02:07:59,399 --> 02:08:03,199
fire skatear dot com if you wanna. Do you want

2884
02:08:03,239 --> 02:08:05,520
to get We don't have bumper stickers yet that say uh,

2885
02:08:06,399 --> 02:08:08,039
fuck my way out of Heaven, but we'll get there.

2886
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,279
That's fire Skate Fire skate Merch dot com. Anyway, that's

2887
02:08:13,279 --> 02:08:16,159
our episode. We'll be back in twenty twenty five at

2888
02:08:16,199 --> 02:08:20,479
this point. Time Splitters two, oh yeah, that's on. I

2889
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:22,640
believe that's Xbox Arcade.

2890
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,319
Speaker 5: I played Time Crisis too. I loved it.

2891
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:26,199
Speaker 2: Also good game.

2892
02:08:26,319 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well I'm gonna cut this off because

2893
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:31,720
I'm getting annoyed.

2894
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:38,199
Speaker 5: Pick Man, which one I've played the latest.

2895
02:08:38,239 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 2: All right, I went for We'll be back on episode

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02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:41,399
ninety eight.

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02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, everybody, We'll see you then, Sean

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cut this off here, Hi, everybody paid for Jade Empire