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Speaker 1: H right. This is Bob Anklin from Rosemont, Minnesota, and

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I play at the Emerald Greens golf Course. This is

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a Golf Smarter number nine hundred and sixty one. You

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need a new golf organization called real Golf that dispenses

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with the USGA. Solid, simple, stupid little rules plaid as

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it lays, be goes out of bound, put it back

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in bound, don't go back to the t. You can

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grind your club and the hazard. Who cares? Those are

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the rules so that amateurs will actually be able to

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follow them. Got to have a lot of degrees and

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a master in taxes to follow the USGA rules. They're stupid.

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It's like only twelve rules. Originally, the USGA is all

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over the map. They don't even know what skill is.

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The yards books were originally illegal because they're not the

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golfer's eye and senses telling him about the conditions of

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the golf course and how to play the shot. Anything

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that's other than that, like a book, a green map,

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a yards book or illegal. The USGA's obligation is to

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protect the game of skill from cheating. They don't want

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fake scores, they want a real handicap. According to the

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rules of skill. Then they made that goofy exception if

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it's traditionally accepted. The first case that they considered was

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the yards books, and they said traditionally accepted. We're sorry,

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go ahead, you know what. The second one was plumb bobbing.

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They considered the case of plumbbobbing. They said, so many

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golfers cheat with it, accepted that wasn't even cheating because

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plumbbobbing doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Everything you know is wrong. According to Jeff Mangum of

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the Pudding Zone.

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Speaker 1: This is Golf's Murder, sharing stories, tips and insights from

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Greek golf minds to help you lower your score and

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raise your golf IQ.

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Speaker 2: There's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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Speaker 1: Jeff, Hi, Fred, how you doing. Long time no see.

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Speaker 2: Long time no see.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was looking back on my spreadsheet here

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to try to figure out how long it's been since

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you were on the podcast. And so this is episode

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nine sixty one. Last time I see it was an

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episode number six hundred and two in twenty seventeen, in

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like almost exactly a year, So seven years since we've

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talked to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but more importantly, the first episode you were

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on was episode thirty seven in August of two thousand

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So it's uh, we've been talking to each other for

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a long time, but we haven't talked to each other

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in a long time. And it is great to have

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you back on because the putting world has changed, and

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probably from your perspective, it hasn't because people still suck

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at putting.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything like everybody sucks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how would you characterize it?

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Speaker 1: But it could definitely be better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can be better. They can be better.

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Speaker 3: So you've been running the putting zone for probably longer

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than I've been doing this podcast, and since two.

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Speaker 1: Thousand, twenty four years.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Congratulations, and you have certified teachers all over the

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world to become putting zone instructors.

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Speaker 1: I've trained seven hundred and fifty golf coaches, most of

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which were sixteen hours two days training each.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: This got back from Korea where we did classes, two

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day classes with thirty and then we did two classes sixty.

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they're players and individuals.

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Speaker 3: Great, awesome, awesome. And what about in Japan? Have you

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if they can't speak English, you know perfectly, they're not

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they laugh and then they go away. They do know,

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perfect or just about getting there. But if you did

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emotional connections. In Korea, it's a little bit nearer. You've

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get through. I have a name in Korea. My name

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in Korea is Godzilla?

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Speaker 2: Really? Godzilla?

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Speaker 1: Godzilla?

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god protecting the earth, and it's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Oh well, please call me Godzilla. No, it was I

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just told him. You know, you're not supposed to be

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five year old male. And then they got kind of

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very macho. Oh wow, young people. They're not supposed to

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tell people I'm the great, right, but I'm the greatest

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putting instructor in the history of the game. And I

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because I'm Godzilla, and they bust out laughing. So we

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get into a different mental mode for learning. We get

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the process of what the putting zone

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instruction is to become certified.

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Speaker 1: Well, there are four skills and that was two words,

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not one four or reading, aiming, stroke for line and

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stroke for ball, pace or touch. The second word was skill. Okay,

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the putting zone has a definition of skill that is

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actually correct, but golf people don't know it. So let

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me define what a skill is. A skill is not

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you do it better than most. That's the definition of golf.

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These guys are good, they're better than you. And then

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they really like the phrase, these are the best golfers

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in the world. No, they're not. Okay. So, for example,

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Scottish Scheffler can't putt. He's terrible right now, He's barely average,

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but he you know, he wins like crazy. Yeah, all right,

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but for putting, he's not skillful. He's not even better

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than half of the two players. So for him to

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not flying. And for him to say that there's nobody

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on tour better than him, that doesn't fly. And so

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the whole idea of tour players are better than country

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club fat diabetic males. That's not a good definition of skill,

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how to operate the body to do the task of

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the skill, whether it's reading the putt. How do you

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how do you use your body to aim the putterface correctly?

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your body to make it go where you aim? Or

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for touch, how do you use your body to organize

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the velocity of impact so that the physics of your

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putt matches the physics required of the world. I have

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thirty five years of that reading brain science to answer

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those questions. And that's daily reading, every day, heavy duty neuroscience,

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not blogny, not watered down psychology today versions the hot

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off the griddle studies with all the complicated statistical analysis

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of data, blah blah blah. And I know more about

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the brain science of putting than anyone who's ever lived,

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no question about it. I never even met somebody in

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golf that thinks they know much about it, other than

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one particular guy, and he doesn't know how to apply

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brain science. To apply brain science, you have to have

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working at Harvard to cure Alzheimer's disease. You want to

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you throw a pair of socks in a bucket, how

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you put a basketball in the hoop, and how you

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put a ball into a hawk. Okay, that's big picture stuff,

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and I'm the guy, the only one ever, and it

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probably won't be anybody else ever, because there's a lot

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brain books in my house. There are five hundred that

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that I've digested and stored in my computer and read

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occasionally and write articles about it. I write two articles

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a day for the past forty two months, every day

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hundred and so many days sixty one, two hundred and

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one out of eight of those of brain science articles.

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hand out like candy, or the approximately fifty to one

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hundred videos that I've made. This is daily article writing.

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when you imagine things and whether that's good or bad?

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anybody who's done or even up in their mouth in

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charts fifty bucks. But anyway, I did ten years and

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five of that was literary or literature research on what

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that mass of information to fill your brain with what's

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to watch a golfer putt on the green and then

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ask him what are the skills? And the martian says,

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the read, he puts straight, and he puts a pace

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control or else he doesn't do as good as he misses.

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colonel road Book. He spent a year or two. He

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strings across the top of every green, and then he

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measured down and he made a topographic map with maybe

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ten inch squares. Then he did scientific experiments, and then

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he did engineering experiments, and then he did physics research

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on how ball's curve on slope. And then he made

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a set of charts. If you're standing here, there's a

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fall line, or what he called the zero brake line.

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And if you're standing if that imagined to be six twelve,

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you're standing at seven o'clock. That's going to break left

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to right, and he'll tell you how many inches above

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the center of the cup to aim on the zero

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break line. He wrote a whole series of charts about that.

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That's the only book in the whole history of golf

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ever written about how to read the putt. And it's

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only Matt all right now. Doctor Gary Wyron wrote the

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PGA Manual of Instruction nineteen eighty six, and he's an

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educational psychologist, so he has a little academic background. He

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restarts reading before he wrote the manual, and he said, whoop,

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nothing here but this guy from Texas, and he admitted

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that he didn't know anything about putting, so he quoted

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the guy in the manual. And that's all he did

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for reading putts in the manual. I've met tens of

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thousands of PJ of America people that took the train,

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and not a single one of them remembers the name Templeton. Wow, Okay,

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Now I set up a guy teaching petting using Templeton's system.

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His name is Michael Shy. He's from California and he

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was the Chambeau's coach for a long time. All right,

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So that's one bucket there ain't nothing in there. The

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aiming bucket has a little bit about get behind the

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ball and use your dominant eye and get behind the

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ball and aim the line on the ball, and very

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little else. Well, there's nothing about how to stand beside

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the ball and look at a putterface and say, where

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does that putterface? Ninety degree aim? Go and point at

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a grass blade twenty three feet away. There was a

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trick in the fifth and the sixties that nobody today remembers,

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but it accidentally got it kind of right. But I'm

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the originator of aiming beside the ball, and I'm the

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only person that even teaches it. All right, So that's

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the aim bucket.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, aim beside the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at a butterface. You got to know

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whether you pointed it correctly at the target. Okay, I'm

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another one does how to teach it. I checked nobody else.

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I created that. Okay, Now for the stroke, everybody's got

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an opinion, just like everybody's got a mouth or another anatomy.

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Yeah right, right, another forty thousands on the stroke. All right,

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So forget that bucket. There's a bunch of snakes crawling

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out of the bucket, toutch bucket. Nothing, there's a sticky

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way down to the bottom of the bucket. From twenty

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and ten the ABC broadcast of the British Open from

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Paul Aisinger watching Tiger Woods. The sticky says, look at

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that tiger's touch. You can't teach that. You can't learn that,

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you have to be born with that. That's the only

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thing in the whole touch bucket history of golf I checked,

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all right. Now, when you do that five years of

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research and you organize all the literature and then you

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read it one bucket at a time, you look at

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golf teachers as kind of dumb. That was from eighteen

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thirty to two thousand and eight, so that's like seventy

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one hundred and seventy eight years of research nothing all

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right now. At that point I sat about saying, I'm

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still going to learn how to do it, and I'm

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going to look in scientists scientifically. What would I need

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to know to figure out how to read a putt,

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how to aim a putter, how to stroke it where

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you aim, and how to do pace control and everything

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that I kept thinking about. The words were perception and movement,

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And then I said Okay, well, let's study perception and

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movement in the context of putty. So what you end

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up with is there's an assortment of science that you

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need to apply to the skills of putty or the

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tasks of putting. One is brain science and one is physics.

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Then you have to understand something about greens and grass,

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and then you have to understand something about human anatomy, perception, brains, physics, movement,

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all those and I got busy. I'm a busy little

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obsession conupposed to be, and I've been studying those sciences.

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I already had fifty years of Okay, now I've got

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fifteen thousand books in my house. If you want to

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challenge me on that, I got fifteen thousand books in

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my house collecting death, and I got twenty this week. Yes,

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all right, But when you apply these sciences, you end

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up saying, man, God, people really need to learn something.

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For example, how do you read a putt? If you

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ask any professional player on the PGA tour, tell the

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thirteen year old kid what to do when you read

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a putt, they got nothing. Nothing. I just watched the

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big video by Scottie Scheffler yesterday on Golf Digest where

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he's he and his coach Rick Smith and Dallas are

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talking about how to read it put and it basically

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was stand here, stand there, feel something and steady green.

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The USGA agronomists have been warning golfers that they got

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reddy grain in almost everywhere except deepest, darkest South Florida.

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Since nineteen eighty eighty one, there was a sea change

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in golf for greens. Different way to build greens so

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they have healthier grass, healthier root systems, different ways to

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mow them and take care of them, birdy cutting, top

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dressing and criss cross mowing and all that, and better

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equipment for mowing the Toro triplex mowers, better care of greens,

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and that system of lower mowing got it below the

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height where grain actually matters. And the system of crisscross

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cutting and verty cutting and top dressing got rid of

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grain also, so grain just doesn't have a chance to

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matter today. And the USGA agronomists have been worning golfers,

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especially Johnny Miller on NBC, always yacking about the grain.

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These turplo pros actually believe in the grain on the green.

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Now it's possible to scrape it, but it's not big

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enough to matter. Now. What confused them, I think is

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that the fringes are sharply downhill and longer grass, and

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they have fringe and if you chip into the grain

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from the fringe, you killy it. And then they get

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on the green and they confuse that fringe grain with

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believing in the grain on the green, when it's really

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just faster green speed downhill, slow green uphill. So I

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watched Scottie Scheffler and Rick smith yacking about the grain,

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and I'm going that ain't how you read to put.

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Then you close, you see where the fall line is.

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You appreciate the steepness of the slope, You appreciate the

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green speed. And these words are appreciate. That's what brains do.

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They don't look for numbers, and they appreciate that. And

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then if you put the bass speed in your mind,

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your brain actually predicts the curve, literally predicts the very

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curve that matches the actual physics. Soanes predict physics. All right, now,

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let me speed this up to you to put a

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nail right in your forehead right there.

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Speaker 2: Don't heard me?

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Speaker 1: Why animals have brains to predict the world's physics because

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animals move and plants don't move. Animals have a brain

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and plants don't have a brain. And the main purpose

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that animals have brains is moving is dangerous, and they

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have to match the physics of their limb motions to

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the actual requirements of the external physics of the world

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or they're dead. Okay, now that's the sentence that nobody

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at Harvard can actually say. They don't get that. The

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top neuroscience guy for the brain sense of movement is

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a French guy named Elaine Beethols. And I've read his books.

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I'm upseessing compulsive, and I'm way out there. He does

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not get what I just told you. It's not in

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his book. I know what's in the brain, and I

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know why, and I know how it got there, and

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I know what it means for paying brains prevent you

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from running your hogwart little face into the wall of

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hogwart station. That's magical because nobody can actually do it,

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because their brain will stop you. You can't do it.

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And so for touch control, if you imagine putting past

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the little hole down downhill on the green is running

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your faces into a wall, and you imagine pain and injury.

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Your brain will give you the tank of gas that

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will not go past it, and then you can't. You

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load the tanky gas with one tempo and you spend it,

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and that vigor of the load is preloaded into the

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muscle that makes your backswing so that it does not

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go too big. No such thing as too big of

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a backstroke when you're athletic.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know. I've been told I overthink it.

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Speaker 3: The only equipment you've talked about so far in putting.

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Speaker 2: Is lawnmowers.

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Speaker 3: You've not seen anything else about the equipment that we use.

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Speaker 1: That's because golf people are really wacky nuts by the

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marketing of putters. Putters don't matter if it's a flat

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slab at the end of a stick. What's different from

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this one to that one? Well, maybe he'll toe waiting,

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maybe big MLI, but big boys. When you rip a

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putter with sufficient firmness of your hand, all the little

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physics is completely destroyed. Now it's up to you square

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straight online swing and it takes a grip pressure of

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three on scale of one to ten to completely erase

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all the little magic of the tiny physics of Scottie

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Cameron putters and lab putters and or whatever you want

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to name. None of it matters.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait, wait, wait, you brought up lab the liight

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angle balance putters. Now I've become a big fan. I'm

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kind of a lab rat.

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that? That's also marketing hype as well

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as the heel balance, toe balanced all that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, There's two things you need to know about

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lab marketing. One is the way they harness it and

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make it swing is not real. You don't ever have

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zero grip pressure on the putter, okay, so if you

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actually grip it and swing it, it won't do with

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that frame they use. Shows you. Second, if you align

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the center of gravity of the putter head with the shaft,

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then you have eliminated certain factors of torque and imbalance.

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But that's not the only reason that putters do curves

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and arcs and come out of the plane. There is

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torque towards your feet, right, they are addressing head torque

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where there's not a fat person sitting on the toe

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and a skinny person sitting on the hill. That's torque

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of the head. I'm talking about the whole torque because

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the on the light angle when you get it off

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the ground, it's going to fall to your feet into

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vertical equilibrium in gravity. That torque, right when you stick

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your arms out away from your body so that your

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hands are not neutral in gravity, that torque is fifteen

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times more powerful than the putter tork. All right, So

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they don't know anything about that. I have tried to

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tell them, but as soon as I say that their

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statements are not perfect, they go stick their fingers in

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there and hate you, hate you, hate you. All right.

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I'm seriously, you know, I can't help it. I'm just

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trying to help these people not mess up golfers by

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claiming stuff that's scientifically goofy. They don't even know about

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the torque of putters that fall towards your feet. If

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you make a backstroke and your grip is too weak,

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the backstroke will go kind of straight, because that's anatomical

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that you you you just contracted a peck muscle. Your

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arms can go very straight across your body, but the

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torque of the droop towards your feet will combine with

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going straight back, and it makes it look like a curve.

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If you have the one grip pressure instead of a

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three one has a big curve to the inside. If

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you have a two grip pressure, it is half of that.

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If you have a three grip pressure, it doesn't ark

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any at all. That's the golfer's grip pressure, not anybody

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designing the putter. And so I've explained all this to L. A. B.

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And they just stick their fingers in the ears and

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the start houlering, hate you, hate you hate.

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Speaker 2: You Are you saying that because it's a center shafted putter,

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center shafting, you're you're removing the torque.

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Speaker 1: Center shafting and the center of gravity of the putter. Okay,

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you take a putterhead shape, there are three dimensions on

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where the center of the gravity is depending on the shape. Okay,

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a flange putter, the center of gravity is probably halfway

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from heel to toe, halfway from bottom to top, and

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halfway from front to back because it's a little rectangle

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and a cube sort of a three dimensional rectangle lab

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has a bigger back, all right, So the center of

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gravity is not near the shaft, is one or so

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inches away from the shaft to the back, and a

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lot of putters do not center that center of gravity

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behind the shaft. All right. Now, Usually if you have

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a center shafted puddle and you lift it off the

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ground and the center of gravity is back to the right,

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that putters. Since you lift it so off the ground,

474
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:18,920
it will twist to the right. That's they've done something

475
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:25,119
that reduces that. But if you grip it so that

476
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,239
you take care of the droop torque from the li angle,

477
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,719
that grip overwhelms whatever they did with the with the

478
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:43,039
head check design not relevant. What grip pressure do you

479
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,000
use with your putter?

480
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,679
Speaker 2: Well, I'm now using a broomstick putter.

481
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:53,119
Speaker 1: Oh so you switched switched lab. Okay, what grip pressure

482
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,880
on scale of.

483
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,519
Speaker 2: One to ten, Probably like a three or four? Very light.

484
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: But you know I've got my left hand, you know,

485
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:07,400
thumb on top of the putter the grip and the

486
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,239
second one very uh and then my three fingers on

487
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,199
the left hand on the top are very light. And

488
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:19,159
then I'm probably just you know, holding it in between

489
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,639
my middle finger and my ring finger on my right

490
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,360
hand very lightly, just to guide it.

491
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,599
Speaker 2: And you know, using a pendulum.

492
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: Real, do you got it straight back?

493
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: It feels like it?

494
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you don't, because l AB tells you

495
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,559
that you don't need to l A B tells you

496
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,159
that whatever arc you make, the putter will stay square

497
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:51,280
to that pat Okay, okay, even if that's true, bad putting,

498
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,039
But my putting improved. You got so, yeah, but you

499
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,800
sucked still improvement. He actually knew.

500
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,199
Speaker 2: What Well, that's the whole idea. We all suck well.

501
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't teach people that just want to

502
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,920
suck less. I don't teach people that want to suck less.

503
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440
I could teach people that want to suck less. I

504
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,280
could sell all kinds of goofy little training aids, but

505
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,280
that's not what I do. What I teach is real skill,

506
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,440
better as good as you can possibly get. We don't

507
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,800
start less.

508
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,559
Speaker 2: Are there putters on the market that you approve of?

509
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely not?

510
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: Have you designed the ultimate putter? No? Wait, are you

511
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,079
going to do that?

512
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: Wouldn't make it. He was too egotistically made. He bought

513
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,639
a pudder from Tad more than Tad had stuck in

514
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,360
a drawer, and then he asked me to sell his pudd.

515
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:55,000
I've been teaching his sixteen year old kid from sixteen

516
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,559
to twenty two for free on my nickel. Six hundred

517
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:02,280
and fifty miles away and this is uh, he's gonna

518
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,039
help me. And this is how he helped me, said

519
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:06,280
design pudder. I designed one and sent it to him,

520
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
and then he bought a tad more made his unputter

521
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,400
and asked me to sell it for him with a video.

522
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,679
Speaker 2: Wait, wait a minute, I missed who you're talking about.

523
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:21,519
Speaker 1: His name is Bob Kotch, medical swinger. For six years

524
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:25,960
he was going to help me maybe, and then he

525
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:29,079
never helped me, and he asked me to help him

526
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:34,800
sell his pudder. Oh ouch, Yeah, Well, I mean that's

527
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,880
that's the experience that I've had repeatedly dealing with people

528
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,760
that tell me, you know, I could help you and

529
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,079
I will help you, and you know, years go by

530
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:44,760
and they never did.

531
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: So wait a minute, are you saying that it doesn't

532
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360
matter what piece of equipment you used.

533
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: It's a flat slab on the end of a stick. Yeah,

534
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920
you let me tell you what pudder you want.

535
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: Ah, We're going to do that in a moment. Okay.

536
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,199
Speaker 3: I guess we've been waiting this entire time for your

537
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,599
advice on what putter you would recommend so that we

538
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:17,840
suck less.

539
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: The same one. Jack Nicholas is to win the Masters

540
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,559
when he was forty six years old.

541
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not going to sell it to us.

542
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,840
And there was only one. There's only one of those putters,

543
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:31,400
his butter.

544
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,159
Speaker 1: Big McGregor. He used a different putter that week, really

545
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,559
huge McGregor, a very large area flat pudd.

546
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Was it a blad style but just really big?

547
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,039
Speaker 1: Oh no, It was like a frying pan, a square

548
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,519
rectangular frying pan with a stick attached to it.

549
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: And why was he using that? How did this come about?

550
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,039
Speaker 1: He was having success with it, so he put it

551
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,559
in the bag and he used to the masters, you

552
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:05,559
don't know what I do. Let me tell you why

553
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:15,280
it's good. Yeah, A no wobble roll rolls perpendicular to

554
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:20,159
the plane of the green. And that means that your

555
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,280
impact cannot be toe up or held up, because then

556
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,800
you will make a wobble. And that means that your

557
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,079
putter's soul has to conform to ball below the feet

558
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,039
slope or ball above the feet slope, and your stroke

559
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,000
has to keep it flat through impact. Then you get

560
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,159
through wobble, through wobble, no wobble roll. All right. You

561
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,159
have to think about bicycles in the hippodrome. They go

562
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:58,079
perpendicular to the slanted track, not perpendicularly. Gravity Balls don't

563
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,719
roll perpendicularly to gravity unless you're putting on the floor

564
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:08,719
a level. Golfers always confuse the two words flat and level.

565
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960
They cannot get those distinguished.

566
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,039
Speaker 2: Please distinguish them for me.

567
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: Level means the table top has all points equal elevation

568
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,519
above the sea, and if you pour water on it,

569
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:27,079
the water doesn't go anywhere. Flat could be tilted, but

570
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,320
flat the table is still flat, but you tilted it.

571
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,079
Speaker 2: And all greens are kind of tilted. They have to be.

572
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: When they mean they meant level, they just say the

573
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:47,000
word flat. Oh okay, so that's bad. A putting stroke

574
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,599
on a level surface like a basketball cord or marble,

575
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,960
the putter soul would slide into the ball and that

576
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:04,840
will go no wobble, true rolling plane of rotation. Take

577
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,880
the break correctly because it's no wobble, and take the

578
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,039
paste control correctly because there's no wobble. All right, So,

579
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,920
ball below the feet, you got to flatten your putter

580
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:22,039
and scrape it across that grass without the toe coming up,

581
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,519
with the eel coming up. Ball above the feet, you

582
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:31,079
got to scrape it across that slope. Right, So flat

583
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,880
is actually a big dag on deal, and the bigger

584
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:42,960
the flat soul is. That's weird in golf because golfers

585
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,519
always making little rockers under the putter. The bottom of

586
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,679
the putters of a Scottie Cameron is a rocker. There's

587
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,800
very little that's actually flat, and that encourages bad putting,

588
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:03,199
Thank you, Scottie. It's part of selling putters to people

589
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,320
in gofsmiths stores when they go in there and pull

590
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,079
it off the shelf and they set it down, toe up,

591
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,679
they like it. They set it down, heel up, they

592
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,519
like it. It's a marketing thing, not a performance thing.

593
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,000
But if you get a big flat putter, you can

594
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,840
hardly put anywhere other than where you exactly aim. It's

595
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,239
too big to mess it up. You try to lift

596
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,480
the toe on that putter, that McGregor putter that Jack

597
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:39,199
Nichols used, it's hard to do it. There's too much heal.

598
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,119
You lift it up, you're just digging the heel in.

599
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:46,719
You try to lift the heel up, you're digging the

600
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,360
toe in. That's because it's big and flat, and that

601
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,440
means you hit no oval rolls exactly where you aim.

602
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:00,719
Because it's big and flat. Now, if the USGA actually

603
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:09,360
knew how these things work, they would ban it. There's

604
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,760
a friend of mine who is a little amateur guy.

605
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:20,119
He's like seventy five year old psychiatrist named James Payne

606
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:25,360
Payn and he recently retired. He lives in Chapel Hill.

607
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:30,880
He made a putter and he's enthusiastic because it does great.

608
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,119
But it's the same thing as McGregor. Because he don't

609
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,119
even know about the McGregor putter, because he's just an

610
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:43,800
amateur peeling around with stuff. He actually reinvented the McGregor

611
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,039
putter with a big flat bottom. You stick a shaft

612
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:51,000
down there and then you slide it. You can't hardly

613
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,559
miss where you ain't. You got the aim right, It

614
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:59,679
goes in. So I teach I don't care about your putter.

615
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:06,400
Here about flat, no wobble, straight rolls exactly where you aim.

616
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,199
Speaker 3: Well, I think that and if i'm please correct me

617
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,840
if I'm misinterpreting it. But that's what the lab light.

618
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:16,000
And you lie it flat.

619
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: It's lying flat on the ground.

620
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: No but arc it and they tell you that you

621
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,800
can hark it painlessly because the lab physics of the

622
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,239
head torque will stay on plane even when you ark it.

623
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,199
And then they tell you that when you unark it

624
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:39,800
back to the impact point, it will perfectly hit exactly

625
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,639
where you were aimed. And that's bogus b e es

626
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:52,320
focus bog bogy All right, here's here. Let me just

627
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,960
talk about brad facts and can't put.

628
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I asked you to be controversial.

629
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,039
Speaker 1: All you got to do is look at the Southern

630
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,480
California PGA YouTube of one hour where he's paid probably

631
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:13,239
five thousand dollars to tell war stories of teaching. Michaelroy

632
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960
and he's out there, he has one ten foot putt

633
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:19,960
and he says, I aim the line on the ball,

634
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,400
and I'm one of the first to ever use the

635
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,760
line on the ball, and I always ain't the line

636
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,400
on the ball, but I refuse to match my butterface

637
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,480
aim to the line on the ball because that would

638
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,519
cramp my touch and feel. And then he arcs back

639
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,440
and then he says, I shut the door at impact.

640
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:43,639
All right, that's what he teaches, and he's he claims

641
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,199
he's one of the best putters ever in the history

642
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:51,000
of the world. All right. He had one point seven

643
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,199
oh four putts for Green regulation when he was putting,

644
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,320
and he did good. But Jordan Speith had one point

645
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,199
six y nine. So the five or six guys in

646
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:05,880
the last five years have done better than Faction in

647
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,559
as crazy as best year ever. Two other golfers did

648
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:13,119
the same thing as Faction, David Toms and David Frost.

649
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,280
One guy named Bob Hans did one point six eight

650
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:25,199
two in the year two thousand and five, which is

651
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,840
way way better than Brad faxon. All right, but here's

652
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:37,480
the deal. Five putts from ten feet. The aim of

653
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:40,239
the ball is one foot to the left of the hole.

654
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:49,480
He missed four to the right four, and then he

655
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:54,320
made the fifth one actually win. In the halt. His

656
00:46:54,599 --> 00:47:00,639
aim was correct all five, his reed was correct all five.

657
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
And he said, well, it must have been my read

658
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,400
was wrong because I'm teaching in southern California and there's

659
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,760
the ocean somewhere, and there's mountain somewhere, and that makes

660
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,840
me a funny reader because I'm from Providence, Rhode Island,

661
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,679
or wherever he's from. Okay, now that explanation of why

662
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,840
he missed the first four when he's aiming the line

663
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,400
on ball and the fifth one actually went in that's

664
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:34,079
completely ignorant, bad logic, stupid miss at that point, he

665
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:36,840
missed it because his stroke and didn't go and where

666
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:45,119
he games. He can't close the door accurately. He arcs,

667
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:49,639
but he can't unarc. Okay, Now, all these people that

668
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,360
arc in unarc, including the people that La B encourages

669
00:47:53,480 --> 00:48:00,320
to arc. No putters don't unark themselves. You got to

670
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,239
do it. And if it's arcing because of the torque droop,

671
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,599
you got no way in the world to unark that.

672
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,280
You can't unarched. You can't undroop your torquefall. Now there's

673
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,559
two other ways that putter's arc and you don't know

674
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,760
whether you're doing it or not. I see all these

675
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,079
people I teach, they have no clue on whether they're

676
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:34,000
actually putting straight. One is you roll your forearms. The

677
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:40,480
front arm pronates palm down, the back arm supinates palm up.

678
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:47,159
That's the backstroke. Then you reverse that, suppenate the lead arm,

679
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:53,400
pronate the back arm through impact. That's full swing habit.

680
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,599
All the pros do that because they don't know what

681
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,320
else to do. They get out there and they done

682
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,440
five hours on the driving range, and they step on

683
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,239
the putting green for thirty minutes to an hour. They

684
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,239
rolled their forearms back and through. It's in all their movies.

685
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,079
It's in all their videos. Colin more Cowa can't put Colin.

686
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,280
He hired a swing coach or a putting coach named

687
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,199
Jeff Sweeney or I believe it is his name, Stephen Swing,

688
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:30,719
Steve Swing, Australian guy teaching in southern Florid And Sweeney said,

689
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,800
I think I know what's wrong with your petting. And

690
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,039
Colin said, well, God, about time somebody did what's wrong.

691
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:43,440
And Sweeney said, you're using your full swing motion. And

692
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,760
Colin said, why is that bad? And Sweeney said, I

693
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,679
don't know, but it's not working. What should I do?

694
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:58,599
I don't know. Okay, So he noticed that the full

695
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:02,159
swing pro nation of the arms and hands was happening

696
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:06,440
in the pudding and that wasn't working too good. All right, now,

697
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,880
let's see who was the other guy just recently. I

698
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,360
think it was might have been might have been Cheffer.

699
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,000
I'm not sure. But they noticed for the first time

700
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:26,360
in their life that when they stroke, their shoulder goes

701
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,320
back in the through stroke. No coach ever told him,

702
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,719
no friend ever told him. No caddy ever told him.

703
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,840
No fellow tour player ever noticed it and said, hey,

704
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,639
that's not good. The first time they ever noticed that,

705
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:43,840
they had already been playing golf for about ten or

706
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,280
fifteen years, and they had been on tour for four

707
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,119
or five years, and they just noticed that the shoulder

708
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:55,559
goes that way. That's the third way that you do

709
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:00,159
things that make it arc. You rotate your torso. That's

710
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,960
what all golfers do on the driving ranch their torso

711
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,719
ten years into playing serious golf, and that's the first

712
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,719
time he notices that. And you say, well, what should

713
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:21,119
you do instead? Blank? Nothing? All right, Now, let me

714
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:24,159
tell you what Crenshaw does. Because he goes arking to

715
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:30,000
the inside, he comes back to the ball, and if

716
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:33,679
he doesn't time it right, he's dead. But when he

717
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,679
comes back to the ball, he changes to vertical, and

718
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,400
when he gets back to the ball, his lead shoulder

719
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,159
goes up from the ball to his foot. And the

720
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,599
telltale sign is if you stood down the line at

721
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,039
the hole and look back at his putter and took

722
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,800
a picture when it's one foot past impact, the sweet

723
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,360
spot is directly above the line of the stroke, and

724
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,039
the faces square and his shoulder went up from the

725
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:06,800
ball to the foot. Ain't nobody knows that but me.

726
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: He doesn't know it, And you're saying that is correct.

727
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying that he fixed a bad backstroke. Okay, he

728
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,840
has to do a perfect timing. Now, he's got a

729
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,239
video The Art of Hutting with Ben Crenshaw BHS. Right

730
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,519
in the middle of that video, he's got a thirty

731
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,519
foot up he'll put and he says, I'm going to

732
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:36,039
sink two of them. Boom. The first one he hits

733
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:42,360
four feet wrong to the right us like faction. And

734
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,960
the second one I think he sank it or he

735
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,119
got a lot closer to the left. But he did

736
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,440
not comment on that first one because he did not

737
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:56,679
know what was wrong. I do his stroke did not

738
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,679
close because he misstimed it. All right, So you do

739
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,320
an arcing stroke. You have to time every single one

740
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:12,079
of those perfectly. If you're like a nano second off.

741
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,679
If you're too late closing, you go to the right.

742
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,159
If you're too early closing, you go to the left. Now,

743
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,639
the accuracy of your line control from ten feet away.

744
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,960
If you have a dead straight putt to the center

745
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,360
of a cup ten feet away, one hundred and twenty

746
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,440
inches away, and from the center of the cup to

747
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:38,000
the right edge of the cup is two and one

748
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,480
eighth of an inch. If you misstroke it by one degree,

749
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,559
you miss the right edge, all right? Now, how much

750
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,039
of the toe is out of square? The very end

751
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,679
of that toe is moved? How much to the right

752
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:02,800
when you misstroke at one degree point zero three inches? Wow? Okay,

753
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,440
that's not a tenth of an inch, that's one third

754
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:10,960
of the tenth of an inch, and you're dead all right,

755
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:19,320
But flat fixes all that, Jeff.

756
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,119
Speaker 3: So many of us when we're out on the golf course,

757
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,119
we have a GPS with us, or we have a

758
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,800
rangefinder with us, and we're looking at like, Okay, I'm

759
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,239
one hundred and forty yards to the pin, or I'm

760
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,400
you know, two hundred yards, or I'm fifty yards to

761
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,840
the pin, but we're trying to get distances there.

762
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the fact.

763
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: That so many people don't really concern themselves with the

764
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:44,159
exact distance they are from the hole when they're starting

765
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,360
their first putt or any putt for that matter, and

766
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,400
they're like, oh, it's feel it's just kind of like

767
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,559
I got a sense of where it is over there?

768
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 2: How what is your your instruction about walking off the

769
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,679
distance of your putts.

770
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to number. I want a.

771
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: Fact, and a number is not a fact.

772
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate the distance as a fact.

773
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

774
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: Fact means if I had to walk to it, how

775
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,280
many places in a military parade stride would take And

776
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,159
the answer is twelve that's thirty feet away. Four military

777
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:26,679
parade steps is ten feet. Each military pride step is

778
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:32,519
two and a half feet thirty inches. And if you

779
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,519
don't do the parade step stride correctly in the military,

780
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,119
you make the whole parade look like crap, and they

781
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:42,960
give you KP and work you make you go dig latrine.

782
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,599
Hope if everybody in the military knows two point five strides,

783
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,360
and if you look from here to the hole and

784
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,480
you say how far is it? The first indication is

785
00:55:56,519 --> 00:56:00,800
how many steps would it be? If I did relitary stripes,

786
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,239
And you can get within two or three feet just

787
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,440
by looking. You don't need to walk it off. But

788
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:14,719
that is effort, not number. Okay. Now, Uphill is more

789
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,079
effort uphill. Downhill is less effort downhill. Sure, other things

790
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,440
you can do is you can look at a cup

791
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:27,280
the size of a real cup. If you move it away,

792
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:34,960
the size regularly shrinks in a parent width. Okay, the

793
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,079
real size is this big right at your nose, like

794
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,119
you're going to drink from a cup liner four and

795
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,760
a half inches or four and a quarter inches wide.

796
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,559
There you go. And if you move that away from you,

797
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,480
it's a certain width, a parent width at ten feet,

798
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:56,599
and if you move it to twenty feet, it's half

799
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,920
that width. And if you move it to thirty feet,

800
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,559
it's one third of that whip that it was at

801
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:07,920
ten ten feet. The appearance, that's a brain way of

802
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,800
looking at distance, not a number. You have to appreciate

803
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:19,480
the distance as a fact right now. In distance control,

804
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,199
that has to be related to your tempo and rhythm,

805
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,840
that effort. And then when you do that, you say,

806
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
go to the hole and stop. Don't break your glass

807
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,559
if it's sitting there. Don't go screaming past the hole.

808
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,920
That's like a stick in the eye. If there's a

809
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,199
cliff of California and the Pacific Ocean that's just past

810
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,920
the hole, don't give me enough gas to go off

811
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,239
the cliff. Give me enough gas to get there and stop.

812
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:49,440
The brain does that and then when you make your stroke,

813
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:55,920
that's athletic. Right now, The golf world went kind of

814
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,840
off the rails with numbers. When Jack Nicholas started using

815
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:05,320
artist books in the sixties, that was illegal. That was

816
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,000
called using an artificial device. Wow. The USJ tapped him

817
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:12,480
on the shoulder and said, you get DQ's if you

818
00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:16,599
use the artist book. And Jack Nichols said, I'm on TV,

819
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,599
I'm a tour player. We got our own rules.

820
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:24,679
Speaker 2: Buf Whow, I never heard that story. That's amazing, look up.

821
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so the USJ chicking out. They didn't want to

822
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,559
defy TV's Greatest Golfer or the tour and said chicken out,

823
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,880
and they did said nothing, And then they changed the

824
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,199
rule and made an exception to using an artificial device

825
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,880
gets you disqualified. And the exception said, if a lot

826
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,559
of golfers do it and think it's okay, it's cheating

827
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,239
because it's not skillful. And that's why you can't use

828
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,039
artificial devices. You got to use your own personal skill.

829
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,360
But if a lot of golfers cheat, we're not going

830
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,800
to say no. We will say instead that this form

831
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:15,360
of cheating has been traditionally accepted and you won't right now,

832
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,760
Arnold Palmer chimed in because he was like ten years older, sure,

833
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,920
and he said, use your eye. You're not athletic if

834
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:30,599
you use a book. Right now. In putting, one club

835
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:37,079
goes a thousand different distances the putt. In chipping, a

836
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:42,199
chipping club goes a thousand different distances. In pitching, a

837
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,039
pitch club goes a thousand different distances. A sand bunker

838
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,079
club goes different distances. That's a little different because you

839
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:55,880
got to calibrate how much sandy get. But putting, chipping,

840
00:59:56,039 --> 01:00:04,239
and pitching those require athletic targeting on where your ball stops,

841
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:09,840
and they don't do that. They do yards instead, and

842
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,840
they get all kind of in between when the yard

843
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,599
isn't exactly what they've been hitting on the driving range,

844
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,440
all right, So they actually would do better if they

845
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:25,840
knew more about targeting. And that's what I teach. I

846
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:32,000
teach skill, perception, intentionality. The brains will do the physics.

847
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,840
The brain will come up with the force of the

848
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,320
swing to pop it right down at the hole. Now,

849
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:45,480
the example is a nineteen year old, pretty serious amateur

850
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,440
one hundred and twenty five yard pit shot from the

851
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,400
top of a hill down to a green slanting a

852
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,360
little bit away from the fairway flagstick right in the middle,

853
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,679
and the green is kind of narrow left and right

854
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:04,199
long front to back. He hit one down there and

855
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,360
it went off the back. I said, okay, let me

856
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,760
fix you. Take a yellow plastic wet floor sign that

857
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,480
says Pizzo mahido and put it likely behind the flag

858
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:19,760
stick and swear that if you go past it, you

859
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,440
got a stick in the eye for pain. Now hit

860
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:32,760
it flush, nice tempo, Hit it flush two feet immediately

861
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,400
right online. Now, let me tell you Leonardo da Vinci

862
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,119
agrees with me, and he's a weird kind of a guy.

863
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:50,639
He actually wrote that animals have pain and plants do

864
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,639
not have pain, and the function of pain is to

865
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:02,440
keep animals from colliding with objects in the way. Okay,

866
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:06,639
now that's yeah, that's buttons on perfect that they can't

867
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:13,039
say at Harvard Neuroscience. That's exactly what I teach. Okay,

868
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,239
I found that Leonardo agrees with me. I feel pretty

869
01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:16,880
good about that.

870
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me tell me what you feel about bifurcation.

871
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I think that it's well time to do it. Yeah, okay,

872
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:29,880
I mean, you know, here's a here's a little even

873
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:33,920
further thing, you know, like the grateful dead bus was

874
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,360
called further. Yeah, all right, here's the.

875
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,719
Speaker 2: Thing we took an hour to get to grateful.

876
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: We'll start. You need a new golf organization called real

877
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,239
Golf that dispenses with the u s g A whoa

878
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:01,000
solid simple, stupid little rules clad as it lays because

879
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:02,880
out of bound, put it back in bound, don't go

880
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,519
back to the t You can grind your club and

881
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:10,719
the hazard. Who cares? Those are the rules.

882
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: That was my next question. That's not fair. My next

883
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:17,440
question was, Okay, you're in charge. What's the first thing

884
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,719
you're going to do with rules? What things are you

885
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:19,960
going to.

886
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,039
Speaker 1: Do most possible so that amateurs will actually be able

887
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:27,320
to follow them? A lot degrees and a master in

888
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,280
taxes to follow the USDA rules. They're stupid. What Lincoln

889
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,960
puts rut those rules lawyers. When you go back to

890
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,599
the ab frost thing that hangs on the wall where

891
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:45,079
the guys, you know, making there's like only twelve rules originally,

892
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,880
and but now they got God, they got nuanced words

893
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,280
that you got to look up in chapter eight to

894
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,360
find out what the meaning was, and you got to

895
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,480
look at the decision to find out how they actually

896
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:05,119
apply them, and it's just terrible. I mean, the USDA

897
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:08,079
is all over the map. They don't even know what

898
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,880
skill is. Now, let me rant this real quick on this,

899
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,760
because you asked the question. The yards books were originally

900
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:22,239
illegal because they're not the golfer's eye and senses telling

901
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,360
him about the conditions of the golf course and how

902
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,760
to play the shot. Anything that's other than that, like

903
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,559
a cat book, a green map, a yards book, a

904
01:04:33,639 --> 01:04:39,760
laser plumb bobby, an unusual use of your putter, all

905
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,119
of those are illegal. That is, the USGA's obligation is

906
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:50,840
to protect the game of skill from cheating, all right.

907
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:54,639
They don't want fake scores. They want a real handicap

908
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:58,960
in a stipulated round. They want real competition according to

909
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:03,159
the rules of skill. It's not like NASCAR where everybody

910
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:05,079
drives the same stock card and see who can get

911
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,960
across the fench line a little quicker. It's you. You

912
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:11,440
got to see it, you got to read it, you

913
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,400
got to put it. All right, Then they made that

914
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,760
goofy exception if it's traditionally accepted. The first case that

915
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,679
they considered was the yards book, and they said traditionally accepted.

916
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:26,920
We're sorry, go ahead, keet it away. You know what.

917
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:32,239
The second one was plumb bobbing. They considered the case

918
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,079
of plumb bobbing. They said, so many golfers teat with it,

919
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:39,000
accepted that wasn't even cheating because plump bobbing doesn't work.

920
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:46,079
But that's the USJA completely, spaghetti head. I'm being able

921
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:52,400
to think and apply the rules. Lasers. You know how,

922
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,679
the USJA and RNA met for years talking about whether

923
01:05:56,719 --> 01:06:01,360
you can have a laser. The out was, we're not

924
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,679
going to tell you it's okay. In fact, we say no,

925
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:06,480
but if any local committee wants to let you use

926
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,480
the laser, knock yourself out. What kind of rule was that?

927
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:16,920
All right? So the second little rule, but no laser

928
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,840
can be approved by a local committee if it tells

929
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,079
you plays as up or down. This is one hundred

930
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,719
and fifty yards as usually your seven iron or your

931
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:29,719
eight iron, but since it's ten feet up, use an

932
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,760
eight lasers do that? They said, we don't approve that,

933
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,800
and we don't want a local committee to approve it.

934
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,880
And if you have one of those lasers in your bag,

935
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,079
even if you don't use it, DQ all right now.

936
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,679
They've backed off of that one recently. What is what

937
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:55,679
is a green map? Yardage books or yardage only, not elevation,

938
01:06:56,719 --> 01:07:01,039
not win calculators. And when they got to the rut

939
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:05,159
the lasers, they said, well, as long as you don't

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use the plays up and down function, it's not any

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different from the yard's book. And we already cooked on that.

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So they proved lasers, all right, But a green map

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is not limited to mileage. It is fall lines and

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slope percent numbers and equal conjur lines and that's all

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illegal as hell. And you know who makes these books,

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Fred Funk's caddy, Mark Long. He hires teenagers and college

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kids to wear GPS backpacks and walk the US Open

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fairways so he can get the digital data of the

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shape of the golf course and the bunkers and all

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the water hazards. And then he has them GPS the

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greens and then he produces the maps of the golf course,

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including green maps, and sells them to US Open contestants

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at Tory Pines for two hundred dollars. Now you know

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who walks the course with Mark when he's doing that,

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and who confers with Mark about where to put the pins.

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You know of the USGA, Mike Davis. Google it. You'll

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find the articles where they talk about it in the magazines.

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There's so dumb that they don't know what illegal is anymore.

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They don't even know. Mark Long tells the USGA setup

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man where to put the pins, and then he sells

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illegal maps, commercially produced maps of information about the course

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conditions that it's otherwise verboten. But they don't know that

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it's the USG Right now, you remember how they recently

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ban using a digital green reader. Okay, here's the actual

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text from the USGA. You can't use a digital green

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reader to make information into your caddy book, but you

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can buy a green map from Mark Long, and they

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used his name in the actual press release. Wow. The

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only thing about those green maps is they got to

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be small if you blow them up. But this is crazy.

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You can't use a digital green reader in practice on

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the golf course to make a note in a caddy book,

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but you can buy a professionally produced one that's got

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the information in there.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They're nuts, all right. And I said, what do you

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really feel? Well, you asked me about Bobber. This is further,

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we need real golf with for rules and skill, not

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happy golf with cheating to put down a happy score.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jeff mangham, it is always a pleasure, dude. I

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can't believe that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: What I love about you is you don't need a quarter.

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Speaker 3: All you need is ten cents. And man, you are

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off and running right. Well, it was great to talk

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to you again.

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Speaker 1: It's like in Vietnam and the lieutenant says, you got

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to dig that in little train and the guys the

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01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:40,399
private looks back at him from the private from Cleveland

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,680
looks back at him and says, what are you gonna do?

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,239
Send me to Vietnam. I got my opinion. They can't

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01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:50,439
send me to Vietnam. I'm already there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jeff, thanks so much, buddy. Thank you for responding,

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and you know, for answering. I don't know if you

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answered any of my questions, but I sure was educated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you do better with that light big putter.

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: Well he's nothing of he's not controversial. What a trip, right?

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,399
Speaker 3: And how crazy is it that our timing of last

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week and this coming week's Mulligan's episode featured two conversation

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with Jeff Mangum from September of twenty twelve, twelve years ago.

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He's really worth the deep dive if you want to

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improve your putting and be thoroughly entertained by someone with

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a mind that doesn't seem to occupy the same planet

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as the rest of us. And to those of you

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,479
who understood the seventies reference to the episode title in

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,760
the intro, let me just say hello seekers.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm headed up to Seattle, Washington, Tomorr to play

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a couple including Chambers Bay, which I've been warned is

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pretty tough, and there's rain in the forecast, so keep

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your fingers crossed for us. We're also playing Eagles Talent

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Course at Willow's Run in Redmond. This week's Golf Smarter

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Ambassador Bob Anklem of Rosemont, Minnesota, or since this is

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the week of the Democratic Invention, I have to.

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Speaker 2: Say the great state of Minnesota. Not like WC. Fields.

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time in Minnesota during the

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nineties in Minneapolis working with the Twins, and one spring

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day at the beginning of the season, I rented a

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bike and rode around the lakes for hours on an

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absolutely magnificent day when I got to work that night,

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as baseball games in the Metrodome those years were played

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at night, and I mentioned to one of the team's

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employees that it was such a beautiful day, and if

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01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:54,720
you know, when I was riding around and if it

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was beautiful like that all the time, it would be

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01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:02,039
called California. His classic response was, that's why we have

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winter to keep the riffraff out. Anyway, Thanks Bob for

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,520
becoming a Golf Smarter Ambassador, and don't forget to tell

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your playing partners.

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Speaker 2: That you are.

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Speaker 3: On this week's Golf Smarter episode, Bob asked for a

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free link to Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost Fundamental,

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,720
which was his gift just for sharing with us where

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,479
he lives, plays and which episode number this is. I'd

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like to invite you to also be one of our

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Golf Smarter Ambassadors and choose from one of three great gifts.

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When you play, all you need to do is introduce

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,079
a future episode. Just write to Golf Smarter podcast at

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01:13:38,079 --> 01:13:40,159
gmail dot com and I'll get back to you with

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01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:44,000
some very simple instructions on how to play. If you

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,159
have any questions, comments, or suggestions, For upcoming episodes, please

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write to golf Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com or

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,600
click on the Heyfred button when you visit golfsmarter dot

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