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So the North Carolina House debated 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,520 and then passed by a sixty to forty six vote 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:42,920 party line vote, Cenebill one fifty three that forces mandates 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,759 more state cooperation with ICE, particularly in the Departments of 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,240 Public Safety and Adult Correction and the Highway Patrol and 14 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:57,560 the State Bureau of Investigation. They would be required to 15 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:02,520 participate in the two to eighty seven g program. Right 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,120 the Senate version passed a while ago, the House has 17 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:11,159 made some changes, so the bill now has to go 18 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:14,239 back to the Senate for a concurrence vote, and then 19 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:17,680 it would go to the Governor's desk for the likely veto. 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Will they have enough votes to override the veto? Does 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,200 not appear that they would. In the House unless some 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,439 Democrats were to break rank or something. Senate Bill one 23 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:29,200 fifty three, according to the Charlotte Observer, comes a year 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,400 after Republican lawmakers successfully enacted a law that forces county 25 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:40,359 sheriffs to cooperate with ICE. I call it Gary's Law. 26 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:46,280 It is not the only immigration bill this session. Lawmakers 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,959 are also moving a bill that would require further cooperation 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,319 with ICE from sheriffs, expanding on the requirements that were 29 00:01:52,359 --> 00:02:00,200 already passed last year. Maria Servanna, she is a Democrat 30 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:05,920 from Wake County, and she opposed a portion or a 31 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:11,039 measure in the bill that requires a review or an 32 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,840 audit of public benefits to ensure that there are no 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,759 illegal aliens receiving those benefits who are not eligible to 34 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:20,199 do so. 35 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:28,319 Speaker 2: This is Undodocumented people are already ineligible for most public 36 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,919 benefits that are under federal and state laws. 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so then what's the problem with auditing the roles 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,840 to find out that that's actually occurring? 39 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: Right? 40 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: What's the problem. See, here's here's the problem. When you 41 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:46,599 guys as the resistance, when you find all sorts of 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,360 ways to obstruct and to help people skirt the law, 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,280 we kind of don't trust you anymore. We don't believe 44 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,919 you when you say, oh, it's already against the law. Yeah, 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,120 but we don't know if you guys and the bureaucrats 46 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:02,479 are actually following the law. We just saw two judges 47 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,080 help illegal aliens avoid deportation, So don't tell me that, oh, 48 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,120 it's already against the law. 49 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: So that's enough. It's not enough. 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,159 Speaker 1: It requires a check to see if anybody, maybe erroneously 51 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:19,759 but maybe intentionally, have been put onto the roles, and 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,840 if everybody is following the law, we'll get a clean 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,719 bill from the auditor and everything will be fined. 54 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,159 Speaker 3: Right. 55 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:30,439 Speaker 1: You can say see that we told you that there 56 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,719 wasn't any of this going on, and we would say, 57 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,960 good thing, we checked. 58 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:35,599 Speaker 4: It's good to have the confirmation. 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: But they're arguing that we shouldn't even check, which makes 60 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:43,120 me a little bit suspicious or sus as the kids 61 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:43,639 would say. 62 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 5: So that includes they are not eligible for Medicaid, childcare subsidies, 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,680 mental health crisis services, rental assistance. These doors are already close. 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,159 So I'm not sure and very can why we included 65 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:06,400 in this bill. So what this bill proposes is not 66 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:13,280 a clarification, it's an escalation and it's inadvertently making our 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,680 state agencies creating to create fear, confusion and delay of 68 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,319 delivering care to people who are eligible to receive their 69 00:04:25,439 --> 00:04:28,439 care because the extra burdens that we put on in 70 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:29,120 this bill. 71 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,199 Speaker 4: This is catastrophisation. 72 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we can't even look as if we look, 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,759 then other people are going to die and they're going 74 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,439 to be afraid. 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, the trauma. 76 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:45,959 Speaker 1: If that's the standard, then you can never check for compliance. 77 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,439 Speaker 4: It's so absurd. 78 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: See when you take a step back and you hear 79 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:55,240 somebody's argument and they're talking about a specific thing, I 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,079 always try to take a step back and examine what 81 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:03,199 is the standard or principle that is informing this position, 82 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,759 because if you look at the if you look at 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,920 the principle or the standard, a lot of times it 84 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,639 doesn't make any sense. And if you were to apply 85 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:18,560 it to other areas, as you should with a standard 86 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,120 or principle, then the dumb assery of the position crumbles. 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,839 Marcia Morey, Democrat from Durham County another awful. She is 88 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:37,519 a former judge who apparently has a misguided idea of 89 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,560 how government works and the system of that government. 90 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,959 Speaker 6: My issue with this, as my colleagues have very eloquently stated, 91 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:53,759 is a part one. Whereas we the General Assembly, the 92 00:05:53,839 --> 00:06:01,040 legislative branch, we are ordering the executive branch what to do. 93 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:06,800 We the legislative branch, are ordering the executive branch of 94 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:13,040 the Department of Adult Correction, the Department of Public Safety, 95 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,319 the State Highway Patrol. 96 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,959 Speaker 3: To do numerous things. And the state SBI. 97 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 6: Is Congress passing laws to direct the president an executive. 98 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:30,639 Speaker 7: To do things. 99 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: Yes, is Congress telling President Trump your FBI must. 100 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,439 Speaker 3: Do these things? Yes? 101 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 6: Your Department of Defense, your Bureau of Prisons. 102 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: Yes, No, it's got separation of powers. 103 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: No, that's not separation of powers. Congress passes the law 104 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:51,680 and then the executive implements it. That's why Congress and 105 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:55,040 you guys in the legislature, you write bills that say, 106 00:06:55,519 --> 00:07:01,079 shall blah blah blah, this agency shall do this, you 107 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:07,079 shall do that. The legislature mandates things through law. The 108 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,240 executive branch then implements it carries them out. How do 109 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:16,720 they do that? At the direction of the legislature. They 110 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:19,480 have to follow what the legislature is intending and what 111 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:22,399 they have written down in the law. This woman was 112 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:28,279 a judge for like eighteen years, and she doesn't understand this. 113 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,399 I'm assuming she doesn't understand it. I'm giving her the 114 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:37,600 benefit of the doubt, right when it's either ignorance or malevolence, 115 00:07:37,839 --> 00:07:40,120 I'm not going with the malevolence. Like she knows this 116 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,199 isn't true, but she's lying in order to make this 117 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:45,800 argument to her, you know, her base and her donors 118 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:50,000 or something. But that, like, it is shocking to hear 119 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,959 somebody in the legislature not understand what the role of 120 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 the legislature is in relation to the executive branch. Yes, 121 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,759 the legislature tells the executive of what to do. 122 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,519 Speaker 3: Yes. 123 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Then there's Abe Jones. Abe Jones is a Democrat from 124 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,639 Wake County, also a former judge. He said the federal 125 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,959 government needs to do their jobs and that we shouldn't 126 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:22,240 be helping because that's the federal government doing this stuff. 127 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,519 They need to do their job, and that Trump killed 128 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:29,879 the bipartisan immigration bill last year. 129 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:32,799 Speaker 4: This lie again, he called it. 130 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:38,799 Speaker 1: He called this bill stupid and preposterous to mandate highway 131 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:42,600 patrol cooperate with ice, that's stupid and preposterous, he said. 132 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,440 He called it horrifically bad and a piece of junk, 133 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:49,279 and mean, these. 134 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 8: Are people, they got children for God's sake, their ways. 135 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:57,360 I'm not fully legal immigration frankly speaking, I thought we 136 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,799 ought to have If we're going to have a boorder, 137 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,440 have it protected. If you have the round, people have 138 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:05,720 to send them home. 139 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,159 Speaker 3: May have to do it, but there's a. 140 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 8: Way to do it, and the federal government should be 141 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,360 about his. 142 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,759 Speaker 3: Business and do it. 143 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:14,159 Speaker 4: It is. 144 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 8: But when we stick our nose into something we don't 145 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:19,799 have to, we have to do it in a humane 146 00:09:19,919 --> 00:09:23,720 and humanitarian way. And this is an. 147 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: End so on this issue of you know, these are 148 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,639 people that have kids. You know who else has kids? Murderers? 149 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Not all murders hashtag not all murderers, but. 150 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people who murder other people, or you 151 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,080 commit violent acts against other people and get sent away 152 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:41,559 to prison. 153 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 4: They have kids. 154 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Do we not punish them because we don't want to 155 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,240 break up their family? 156 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: Right? 157 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,519 Speaker 1: These are the consequences of choices that individuals make. The 158 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:55,480 federal government is doing immigration enforcement. 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Hello, Mary, welcome 188 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 to the program. How are you hi, Date. 189 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: I love your show, Thank you, I appreciate it. 190 00:11:32,799 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 9: So, my friend's daughter who had gotten her master's in 191 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,039 Spanish et cetera perfectly respectable young woman, and she was 192 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,679 working as an all pair in Spain and would they 193 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,840 went to Disney euro Disney. When they came back into 194 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,000 the country, they checked her papers and said, you don't 195 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,600 have the correct kind of visa. You know, you can't 196 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 be working, and you have like twenty four to forty 197 00:11:56,639 --> 00:11:58,639 eight hours to get out of the country, as in, 198 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:01,519 you will leave here, you will go straight back to 199 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,200 where you were, pack your bags and we will be 200 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:06,200 monitoring you get out of the country. 201 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:10,919 Speaker 1: And why she wasn't allowed to stay there her visa? 202 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,559 Was she there on a tourist spiel. 203 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 9: I think she had a work visa, so if she 204 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,240 was working as an all pair, she was not allowed 205 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,840 to earn any money. She had no idea and yeah, 206 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:21,600 and that. 207 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,159 Speaker 1: Was it out Yeah when out Yeah, when you look 208 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:30,519 at the immigration rules that every other country uses, we 209 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,360 are the outlier in America. 210 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,639 Speaker 9: It is absolutely Yeah. 211 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: The abuses that we allowed to occur are there's no 212 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,759 other explanation except it's intentional. 213 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 9: Right, right, And I'm from the West Coast, although I 214 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,960 try to keep that on the downlow, but I've been 215 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,600 here a long time, but I knew illegals out there, 216 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:56,799 and you know, wonderful, wonderful people. But it kind of 217 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:58,879 goes back to that thing of like we have a 218 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:02,519 border or we don't. And here's the thing. The wonderful 219 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:06,559 illegals now are are flying under the radar just like 220 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:10,960 they always have. You know, they're going after these troublemakers. 221 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,039 Speaker 4: Well, and that's the first that's the first wave. 222 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: So like the idea is that eventually they're going to 223 00:13:17,399 --> 00:13:21,519 start going after others, and I think at that point 224 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:25,120 it becomes way less politically appealing, right when they start 225 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,480 rounding up people that are you know, law abiding except 226 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,159 for the obviously the illegal alien part. 227 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: Then I think you're going to get a lot more pushback. 228 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: But the fact that they are already pushing back when 229 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,879 they're going after the worst of the worst, is indicative 230 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,519 of their general, you know, posture, which is, anybody who 231 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,840 gets in should be allowed to stay, no matter their 232 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:48,720 criminal history or their behavior once they arrive. 233 00:13:49,039 --> 00:13:51,399 Speaker 4: And it's not a winning issue for them. 234 00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why they've taken it except for their 235 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,600 incentive to do so. 236 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: That's it. 237 00:13:56,919 --> 00:13:59,159 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's true. And I mean I have a super 238 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,679 good One of my dear friends is here from Kenya. 239 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,519 It took her twenty two years to get to get 240 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 her citizenship, to get a great I can't remember how 241 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,559 many years. Probably took twenty years to even get her 242 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,200 green card. She was doing everything right. They came here 243 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,039 on student visas. They kept having to pay these out 244 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,399 of stators fees and all this, and finally I asked her, 245 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,240 you know, like, what is the deal, Like, we have 246 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,120 all these illegals that are coming here from south of 247 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,240 the border. This was you know, a million years ago, 248 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:32,240 And I said, they're getting their citizenship. What is the deal? 249 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:34,600 And she said, it's much easier if you come here 250 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:36,919 illegally than if you come and try to do it 251 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,440 the right way. 252 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're not getting citizenship, they're getting authorizations, and 253 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,440 then because the system is so overloaded and backlogged again 254 00:14:44,519 --> 00:14:48,879 by design, that they're never removed. And so that's why 255 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,639 I like the guy that was just you know, that 256 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,799 was just arrested for attempting to torch a bunch of 257 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,559 Jewish people to death. You know, he had overstayed his visa, 258 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:00,600 and this is a very common thing. Come in and 259 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,960 then they don't leave, and then there's no way to 260 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 go about rounding them up and getting them out because 261 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,120 we've we've brought in so many people the system can't 262 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:09,759 handle it all. 263 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 9: So right, right, and what a horrifying situation that was, Yeah, 264 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:15,080 absolutely it is. 265 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Mary, I appreciate the call. 266 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Good to talk with you, you. 267 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:19,559 Speaker 4: Too, all right, take care. 268 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:26,159 Speaker 1: Next audio clip here is Julia Greenfield, Democrat from right 269 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:30,200 here in Mecklenburg County. She called this legislation a harmful, 270 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,720 despicable bill that sends a hurtful message to our immigrant 271 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:39,879 friends that that's not her, that's Abe Jones, this is 272 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:40,960 Julia Greenfield. 273 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:42,519 Speaker 7: It's upsetting. 274 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 10: We are sending a message that these hard working people 275 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,320 who have left untenable circumstances in their own home country, 276 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,360 not all of them. 277 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 7: That they are not welcome here. 278 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,519 Speaker 10: They can't have an opportunity to work and to raise 279 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:07,720 their children safely, to educate their children. And as we 280 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:12,440 have seen, as certain states have deported immigrants, what's happened. 281 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 7: The crops are not being paid. 282 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,519 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 283 00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:21,279 Speaker 10: The hotels do not have anyone providing the service. 284 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:26,879 Speaker 1: So it's best that we just keep employing people for 285 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,519 low wages. Right to keep an indentured servant class. That's 286 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:35,399 the idea here. You know how racisty this sounds. Also 287 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:39,519 note the conflation of legal with illegal, and the conflation 288 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,159 of criminal versus non criminal. 289 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 10: And I was adam beating and someone asked who wants 290 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:50,960 manufacturing brought back to the United States. Everybody raised their hand, 291 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,039 and then we asked who wants to work in manufacturing? 292 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: Not one hand went up. 293 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's a democratic town hall. 294 00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:05,599 Speaker 10: We are shooting ourselves in the foot for no reason. 295 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 7: Immigrants are not the boogeyman. 296 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 10: Nobody say they help us build this country. 297 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,759 Speaker 1: Okay, nobody said they're a boogeyman. They're just in violation 298 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,920 of the law. And so what you're advocating is that 299 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,400 we have laws that should just be ignored because somebody 300 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,440 needs to pick my crops. 301 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that. 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I use the Vantage 321 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:33,519 plan to get unlimited access to every feature your subscription 322 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,319 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 323 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,599 ground news as they make the media landscape more transparent. 324 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,960 John Blust is a Republican from Guildford County and he 325 00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:50,799 spoke in favor of passage of the cenatepill that was 326 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:54,440 debated yesterday in the North Carolina how Centipil won fifty 327 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,559 three and he started off with a quick recap. He 328 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:03,319 says of how we got here, which is important, I hear. 329 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:05,519 Speaker 3: Due process, rule of law. 330 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 11: We got here because the last administration did not enforce 331 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,200 the law, refuse to enforce laws on the books, and 332 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,000 twelve million people came right across the border and were 333 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:25,920 often aided by our government in being bussed to different 334 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,359 places around the country. 335 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,799 Speaker 3: Some flown in the dead of night so that they 336 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:31,880 could be resettled. 337 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:38,039 Speaker 11: It was a purposeful, purposeful policy, and I've wondered why. 338 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: I keep thinking, why. 339 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,559 Speaker 11: Are they choosing this hill to die on? Why did 340 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:46,000 they refuse to enforce the law. And then I read 341 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:51,880 a few weeks ago that because they count illegal aliens 342 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:59,839 in the census, the Republican majority would be twenty seven 343 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:02,680 seats in the Congress instead of three. 344 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,039 Speaker 4: It's a majority. 345 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 11: So these are people not here under law, but being 346 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,319 counted and getting represented in the Congress. 347 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,599 Speaker 3: And I would say, right here in this chamber. 348 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. Otherwise, why would you why would you 349 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,440 do this? Why would you open the border up to 350 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:28,440 twelve million illegal aliens in four years? 351 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: Why would you do that? 352 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Why would you rip away all of the controls, be 353 00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:39,079 opposed to a border wall and opposed to these these 354 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,119 audits of the roles to clear them out and get 355 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,079 people off of them that are ineligible, thereby saving money 356 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:47,319 for those who are eligible. 357 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: Right, Why else. 358 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: Would you do all of these things? Let me go 359 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,559 over and talk to Richard real quick. Hey, Richard, welcome 360 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:56,000 to the show. 361 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,079 Speaker 12: Hey, how are you doing. 362 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,079 Speaker 4: I'm all right? What's up? 363 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,039 Speaker 12: Me and my wife? Sorry, me and my wife have 364 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:12,480 been together eighteen years, been married sixteen and we paid 365 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:18,799 a lot our money for her legal She hates the 366 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:27,319 fact that people come over illegally from Mexico. So how 367 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,240 come we can't give our money back? 368 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: That's a fair question. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a fair question. 369 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: And the people who are most insulted and defended by 370 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:43,000 the illegal immigration problem are the legal ones, like Richard 371 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,200 just outlined. I appreciate the call, Richard, Yeah, it's an insult. 372 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:50,559 You spend thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars 373 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:52,880 to do it the right way to become a citizen, 374 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,119 to go through the courses, the background checks, right, all 375 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,680 of that stuff, and then you see other people just 376 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:02,440 jumping the line and enjoying the benefits of being here 377 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:09,119 without any of the costs. Bluss then addressed the lie 378 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,279 that a new that bipartisan bill in Congress, that that's 379 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:18,000 what was needed in order to fix the broken immigration system. 380 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 11: We have seen in a couple of months the border 381 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:28,160 closed under current law. By just following current law, that 382 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,559 is a humanitarian thing to do. No longer are there 383 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:39,000 trains of people coming through dangerous areas across Guatemalo, Mexico, 384 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,119 subject to the cartels and their wrath. They are now 385 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,839 staying home and not being abused like they were for 386 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,400 four years while the border was wide open. 387 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: That's humanitarian. 388 00:22:58,079 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I see no moral ground to 389 00:23:02,319 --> 00:23:05,880 the left on this issue. This idea that it's moral 390 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,880 to encourage people to make that trek and suffer the abuses, 391 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:16,400 be murdered, raped, sold into human trafficking. That is not 392 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,720 the humanitarian position to take. You should not be encouraging 393 00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:25,160 people to do that. I have documented over years the 394 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,640 various abuses that occur because of our system. And so no, 395 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,799 you do not occupy the moral high ground in this 396 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,880 argument because well, they got here, you should let them stay. No, 397 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,319 they everybody should not be encouraged to come in the 398 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,759 first place. And the way you do that is to 399 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:47,319 not incentivize that after four years of no due process, 400 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,319 no adhering to the rule of law, now all of 401 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,799 a sudden Democrats are crying for it. There is a 402 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,640 vast difference, Blust said, between legal and illegal immigration. 403 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 11: There is a specific due process for those who come across. 404 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: The border in violation of immigration laws. 405 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 11: These are Article two proceedings within the Justice Department. They're 406 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,160 not a full fledged court proceeding like in a criminal. 407 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Trial, right, which is what Democrats are arguing for. This 408 00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:25,400 is a conflation because they obviously well they're either ignorant 409 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 of the process or they are counting on you being 410 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,680 ignorant of the process. That they are different This is 411 00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:36,000 not the same as somebody violating a state statute being 412 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:40,200 arrested by local police being put on trial, right because 413 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:46,000 that's the state versus pete calender. It's not an administrative 414 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:54,000 civil proceeding. The due process rules are laid out already, 415 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:59,359 they are codified, and that's what ICE is enforcing. So 416 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,279 this idea that there isn't due process, it's a red herring. 417 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,559 It's a red herring. And again it's predicated on either 418 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,880 you being ignorant or the person making the argument being ignorant. 419 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,960 All right, so spring is here a time of renewal 420 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:19,559 and celebrations. 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The gentleman you had on 441 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,440 mentioned that it came to his attention like two three 442 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,200 weeks ago that this was the impetus for why the 443 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,240 Democrats did this. That's shocking, because, if I'm not mistaken, 444 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,839 you made mention of this motivation that they had to 445 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:38,680 do it two or three years ago, don't. 446 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't remember how long. I mean, well, I don't 447 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,440 know if it was two or three years ago, but 448 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,400 it's been a while. It's probably around twenty twenty four. Yeah, 449 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,920 it's probably yeah, probably last year. 450 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 13: But it's been spoken about, and I've heard about that 451 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,039 this for at least a couple of years as to 452 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,960 why they were doing it so and it was always delivered. 453 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,599 People are like, wow, is Joe bilden Biden failing at 454 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,160 the or he's not failing. He's doing exactly what their 455 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,799 intent is. And then the other thing is we throw 456 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,839 around this word on occasion and it's a it's a 457 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:17,519 powerful word. But isn't this action? Couldn't it be regarded 458 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:18,279 as reason? 459 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: Which action? 460 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,759 Speaker 13: I mean, it's an absolute under trying to undermine the 461 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,680 principle of this country was founded upon. 462 00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,759 Speaker 4: Which action are you saying will be the. 463 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 13: Democrats are doing by flooding this country with illegals. 464 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: I have heard people make that case that action. 465 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,039 Speaker 13: I mean, what do you think? 466 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:40,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's thing. 467 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: You would have to nail down actual motive, right you, 468 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Like you would have to get proof that this was 469 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,680 the plan. And I don't know if you would ever 470 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,359 be able to do that because they could just say, oh, no, 471 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,480 we were just giving asylum to all the people that 472 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,920 were fleeing, you know, war torn countries, even though like 473 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,400 it's like nine out of ten of them are not 474 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,039 actually in any threat, any danger. That's why they were 475 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:02,880 the asylum claims are always rejected. 476 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 13: So okay, but yeah, can we speak off the record, then. 477 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 4: Well you're on the radio, so. 478 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 13: No, it's clear what their motivation was. 479 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I'm assuming that, but I don't know 480 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720 for sure, but I am assuming it based on the 481 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,920 report from the Center for Immigration Studies. But also remember 482 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,000 for the last twenty five years they've been operating under 483 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:30,920 this This strategy of demographics is destiny, right, the belief 484 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:37,000 that if you can turn America into a more say, 485 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,319 well let's say, diverse country. You know, when all the 486 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,799 white people die off, then the Democrats will have a 487 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:43,480 permanent majority to rule. 488 00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:46,039 Speaker 4: And that's what they've been banking on. 489 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,319 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, so you could say that this 490 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,079 is also part of the plan is to get as 491 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,759 many people in as possible, then eventually give them amnesty, 492 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,119 and then they'll vote Democrat for the rest of their lives, 493 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,039 thus ensuring the future of the Democrat Party. And there 494 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:00,319 was also a little bit I would submit racism, and 495 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,759 where Democrats thought, well, if we can import brown people 496 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,680 from South and Central America, they're going to vote for 497 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,119 us because brown people like us better than the Republicans, 498 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,920 which is kind of racisty and is also not true 499 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:13,160 as we saw in the last election where you saw 500 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,799 Hispanic voters start moving over to Donald Trump. 501 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,799 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I yeah, I don't know. 502 00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, what's the point of calling it treason 503 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,079 except for a talking point because you're not going to 504 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,519 get trials, right, Who do you go after for treason? 505 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:31,119 Speaker 4: Joe Biden? 506 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,079 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a good point, But it's just to understand 507 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,599 the significance of what was undertaken and why is just 508 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:47,119 it just makes your blood. Boy, Yes, they and justify 509 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,960 the means they're willing to do anything anything for political power. 510 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: It does. 511 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 13: That's pretty scary. 512 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it absolutely is. It absolutely is. John. I 513 00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:57,079 appreciate the call. 514 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,279 Speaker 1: Let me get to this one last SoundBite here because 515 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,440 I think it's important. This is a Democrat from Cumberland County, 516 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,039 Charles Smith. He actually raises issues with the waiver of 517 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:12,160 government immunity that I think should probably get tightened up 518 00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,720 because I think he is I think he is correct. 519 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 14: Here, County or later on, a city shall have waived 520 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920 its immunity from civil libdality and tort if it does 521 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640 not comply with GS. One five three eight. THAT'SH one 522 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,960 four or five point five, and an authorized alien commits 523 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,559 a crime against a person or property within the corporate 524 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920 limits of the county or later on it would be 525 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,079 the city. I made this point in committee yesterday that 526 00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,599 I think it's important to define commits a crime. I'm 527 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:42,559 not sure exactly what that means. You could argue, as 528 00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,359 Representative Stevens did, that it's it's at the time someone 529 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,160 is charged with the crime. I don't read it that way, 530 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 and I think there's it's vague for that reason. I 531 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,759 think commits a crime to me suggests some type of conviction. 532 00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,400 And so that's important when you start talking about exposure 533 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,839 to civil ibetally, because douse you have to have standing, 534 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,720 and until someone has standing, they cannot bring a lawsuit. 535 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,960 And if it does require a conviction, as I think 536 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,039 you could reasonably interpret, that could take two or three years. 537 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:17,680 And if you're exposing a county or a city to civiliability, 538 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,440 there's going to be a sexual limitations to that tortue claim. 539 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,279 Speaker 3: Uh. 540 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,559 Speaker 14: And so even if you were a proponent of this provision, 541 00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,119 there are concerns. As an attorney, and I don't think 542 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:33,160 that we should enact legislation that lends itself to subjective interpretations. 543 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: I think that's completely fair. I think that is completely fair. Right. 544 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: If the legislation says somebody you know that you can 545 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,680 sue in the jurisdiction where somebody you know commits a crime, 546 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,759 what does that mean? It could be mean it could 547 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,920 mean that they're charged with a crime, or it could 548 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,160 mean convicted of a crime, so that would get litigated. 549 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,920 And if it's conviction, then that takes a certain amount 550 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 of time for that process to run through the courts, 551 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,160 and then you may have expired the statute of limitations 552 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,079 to sue the local jurisdiction. So it's unclear. So whatever 553 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,839 the intent of the legislature is, I think they need 554 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,359 to make it clear. Is it being charged with a 555 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,880 crime or convicted? 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