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Speaker 1: We're all owned by the syndicate Body and Soul or

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should I just say Bunny.

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Speaker 2: Hello, filthy movie lovers, Something Weirdos and Anti Criterion Bros.

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To the fourth episode of the Short Ends, our series

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of bite sized bonus episodes where we present the odds,

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ends and dephemera that didn't exactly fit into previous discussions.

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This week is something a little different. We are doing

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a mini sould which is going to be talking about

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Reviver two, the second release in the ongoing Secret Lost

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Film series by Vinegar Syndrome, curated by head archivist Oscar

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Bacher and with profits from each release going directly into

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funding the VS Film Archive. The entire premise of this

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line is the mystery box aspect, so we should probably

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say right up there will be spoilers, So if you

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want to go into Reviver to completely virginal, you'll want

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to skip the last portion of this episode. But first

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let's cover a few other recent more sexploitation related news

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and updates. We've got another Secret Places, Secret Things update.

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What do we got here from? Chris Poggiali?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, first of all, Dino is going to love

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that you use the word curated.

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Speaker 2: I know I know.

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Speaker 1: To do that intentionally to give him to get to

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raise his hackles. Yes, folks, we're trying to destroy the

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word curated. We're trying to replace it with programmed or

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whatever it rolls off the tongue. Okay. So yeah, Chris

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sent this to me and I thought it might have

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been in this book. So Brian Albright, who is great,

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Interviews with Exploitation Filmmakers of the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies,

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and it came out, gosh, almost twenty years ago, and

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I still don't have a copy, so bad on me.

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But that's also the book where he interviewed Jennifer Bishop,

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which was major, and for some reason, she never she

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wasn't interviewed for the al Adamson set or their Graffe

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set by Severn and Arrow. She still has never done

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an interview other than that interview with Brian. But he

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did interview Gary Kent for that book, and so he

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sent me this screenshot of what Gary had to say

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about secret places, secret things. This is before he saw

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the movie. So he said, God, I would love to

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find a copy of that. I was working as a

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production manager for The Pussycat Shame, but they weren't doing anything.

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Gary Graver got to be a pal and we were

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writing a script called The Moonshiners for them, and I

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have found a Box Office magazine article about that where

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that movie never went into production, but they were trying

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to get The Pussycat to finance it. The next thing

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I knew, Vince Miranda called and so there was a

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guy named Mike McFarland that wanted to do a movie

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and he was looking for a director. They told him

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I was a good production manager, so he wanted to

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hire me. I met Mike at a sub sandwich shop

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and he sat down and I thought, well, if I'm

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ever going to make the jump, do it now. I said,

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don't look any further for a director. It's me. I

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talked him into letting me direct, but he had no

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idea what he was doing. He wanted to make Mudi cuties.

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I said, let's make an art film. It will be

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a newdie, but it will be art accurate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wrote the script with one of the partners from

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The Pussycat. Mike produced it. I co directed it with

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his other fellow. At the time, I already worked with

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have a Hungarian cameraman or you were not a director.

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it was his first job in La. I don't believe

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that's true. Part of the film had this great camera

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work from this Hungarian cameraman. The other director had his

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own cameraman, and I don't know what he did. I

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thought my part of it wasn't too bad. Of course,

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to it or where it went. Some more questions now,

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because I thought Mike McFarland wrote the script to this,

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one of the partners from The Pussycat, which was now

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that's the other director. I just think it's interesting he

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didn't name the other fellow, but it sounds like there

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were two units shooting this. It sounds like he shot

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to that editor, the woman editor then to make it

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all flow, because I don't notice any difference in style

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across that those stories in that film don't. I don't

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notice any difference. And so that's why when he maintains

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that he direct co directed it with someone, I was

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were doing it together at the same time that I

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could see. But now he's saying that there was the

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director at his own cameraman that wasn't Lewis Horbeth's, And

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cameraman on this? Because it all flows very seamlessly to me,

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have to email Mayola. I'm gonna have to you know,

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stop being chicken shit and email Naola because I think

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she and your your other favorite are the only two

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surviving people that we can talk to about this.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of is that maybe

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they had the two units wanted exteriors wanted interiors. Maybe

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I wish that I'd been more. I wish that I'd

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pressured him more to answer my questions about this, but

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at that time he was not doing great health wise,

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so I really didn't want to impress him. It doesn't

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seem like anybody else did after that film came out,

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unless I could talk to Lars from Austin Film Society,

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who did mention that he got Gary the copy of

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that movie, so I might reach out to Lars. And

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I love that We're still going back to get more

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info about this movie. But like this, it's an enduring mystery. Yeah,

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and I think it's still one of the best movies

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that we've done. So the more info we can get,

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the better. I just I wish the This is the

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situation where I wish that there were, yeah, all the

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answers available, but at least it keeps us on our

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toes looking for stuff. So thank you Chris for sending this,

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and I am going to order that book because I

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need that Jennifer Bishop interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What year was that book?

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, almost twenty years ago. Yeah, and

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I think it was at McFarland published. I think it

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came out through McFarland, that duel the Tom Weaver books.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well it is good that you know, Gary

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that interview for that book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mh, I just have too many questions now.

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is like, wow, this might be a good reviver. But

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at the same time, it's like, well, maybe we're talking

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about it too much.

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Speaker 1: You know, No, Oscar and I have discussed this. He

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knows how he knows how important it would be to

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put this out. It's not necessarily about the fact that

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it's never been available. I mean, if they can find

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any even if they find a print that's that would

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potentially be longer than what we have because it was

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cut for that video. It's missing both the beginning and

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end credits. So yeah, there's definitely stuff missing and I

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and I made that argument to him, so all right,

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Speaker 2: Yep, you have been doing some corrections on compass rolls.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I posted that on letterbox and I haven't gotten

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any blowback, but you know, listen, when I have to

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correct my daddy, I have to do it. I'm sorry.

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So uh, that correction happened. But then I also I

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forgot to because we moved over to Canada to discuss,

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you know, with Eric, which was so so educational and great.

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I wanted to read out the email, the exchange that

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I had, or at least the initial message I got

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from Anthony MUSKINI who was the male lead of Compass Rows.

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Speaker 2: And when was this?

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Speaker 1: So this was two thousand and twenty seventeen. Okay, so

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this was when so Quadsenman was doing screening of Vapors

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and Seeds, and Joe Rubin asked me to try to

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get as many people as possible for every screening. So

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who were still around who were part of these two movies.

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co wrote Seeds, and then his wife Patty Dinner his

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ex wife Patty Dylan, who was the maid in the film.

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I was like, I want to get somebody that isn't

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somebody who even Jimmy hadn't talked to, because I don't

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think Jimmy had even talked to him. So I emailed

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him out of the blue, and I wasn't sure to

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Andy Milligan in the nineteen sixties, because we're doing a

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screening of his movie. So I found him and he

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wrote back really quickly. Actually he wrote back like twenty

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four hours later. So his email, he wrote back and said, yeah,

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and I remember Andy. He was a little gruff, but

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an interesting human. His directing was off the cuff, interesting

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and jovial. He'd hoist that camera onto his shoulders and

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came up with. He was a good guy, even though

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he seemed dangerous at times. It might make for an

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interesting evening just kicking around those years way way back.

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Let me know where and when this will all happen.

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is sitting with his wife watching Seeds. He did not

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I don't think he knew it was around. So he

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talked to John I remember, and I think he talked

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to Jerry too, and that was kind of the end

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of it. And I gave his contact information to Vinegar

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Syndrome because they were going to reach I think they

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were reissuing Seeds because that was the debut of the

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restoration that Alex did, and they were going to try

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to get him for the release. And I I'm not

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sure if they did or either they contacted him and

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he said no or they didn't contact him. But I

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sent his email address to Alex because I was like, Alex,

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if we're going to figure out any of these mysteries

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of Compass Row, specifically those two actresses, the one who

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plays Asa, the blonde who's supposed to be like Hope Stansbury,

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the lady who's not in Lindon. I was like, if anything,

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you can send him some screenshots and see would see

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what he says. He was very nice, very cordial. There

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from that email, and then he thanked me after for

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inviting him and everything, and the conversation just kind of

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ended there because I was like, Okay, you guys figure

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out this interview and do the interview, and it never happened.

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we're just doing some research into this film. Do you

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on his word press years ago. He could not identify her.

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who either of those women were. So but to be fair,

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that was when that it was a terrible transfer. So

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you know, with the clarity that we have now, yeah,

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it's much clearer. Did you ever see the original transfer? Listen?

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I never thought we'd see anything with any kind of

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clarity like we do on that box. Sett It doesn't

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make the movie good. It's still very difficult to get through.

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But I gave it like a historic interest. I think

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if you if you view it as like a companion

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disease because it has some of the came cast, and

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then it's it's interesting, but it's also kind of like,

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this is why he stopped, This is why his best

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movies are the movies that he wrote, So not kiss Me,

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kiss Me Kissing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's yeah. Compass is just it's trying to

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be cute and you know, satirical bit and.

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Speaker 1: It's too inside baseball. Yeah, it's two inside Baseball, and

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it's just like, yeah, now that it's now that we're

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sixty years on from all the people that are referenced

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in that it's and a lot of them, it's tough

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to even get all those references.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got Oh you wanted to mention

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something about our Bunny Yeger release coming up?

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Speaker 1: I did. I felt bad because I was I was

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listening back and I was like, we were talking about

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how much fun it was was to do the extras

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for the Bunny Yeger release, and then I remembered, oh, right,

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we got Chris Malasko from doing the Pinku on that

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release too, So I think I can disclose this now.

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and I wanted and I'd asked. I was reached out

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to do something for that release, and I said no,

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but I thought, you know who'd be great for this,

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Chris because I went to his letterbox and I saw

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how give it five stars? And I was like, perfect

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sex movie. He loves the movie, like, you know, he

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can write something about this. So I suggested Chris, and

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then it didn't happen because they randomly found somebody else

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and I was bummed, So I'm glad that you came

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up with the idea. Well, this makes sense because Chris

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is of Chris's photographer, so this is this makes total sense.

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It's still adjacent to the sex films that he discusses,

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in the genre that he discusses, but also he is

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an expert in cameras and he was so cute because

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he messaged us little notes and stuff, I think to

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both of us about like, oh, I just want to

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identified this camera and oh I'm really interested in this

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and like noting her style and I was like, oh god,

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this is going to be such a good essay. So

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I got really excited. So yeah, I just want to

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I wanted to shout him out just because I felt

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bad that we didn't do that because it really kind

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of was that really happened beautifully, and and Brett Would,

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the producer of that set, was really receptive to it,

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and you know, he was really excited about this, this

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adding something else to the package that wasn't just our commentaries.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yep, Chris is the kind of guy that can,

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you know, see a camera and instantly know what it is,

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which I think is a great research talent to have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So he just did that with the sex Bloiters,

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all these cameras, and I was like, damn, why didn't

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we think of Christophers Sexploiters. I didn't think of the

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camera angle for that either, But he gave it the

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same reading as I did, and I was like, that's

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what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he would like it.

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Speaker 1: It's action exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's just all the lighting and it like, you know,

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the the you know, Gigi's ice cream scene has just

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lit so well and a photographer will see that and

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understand how much work goes into.

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Speaker 1: He did note that too as well, and I was like,

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that's the best, maybe the best photograph scene in the movie. Yeah,

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it's over two and it's over too quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So that's coming out. Oh crap, when is that

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coming out next month?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember May at the end of May. And

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I'm hoping we get our Sex Sploiters contributors copies soon.

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I know we requested them. Yeah, so it's weird to

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see all these regrease pop up of stuff that we

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don't have yet. So fingers crossed, please let's get those copies.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how different companies work, you know, for AGFA.

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They sent us two each, so I was able to

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give away one. So if if if he sends multiple,

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I will do another giveaway, which should be fun.

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Speaker 1: M hmm.

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Speaker 2: We've got our friend. Mark Murray has announced Endless X

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to See volume one from Ultra Flesh Archives.

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Speaker 1: Which the crazy thing. The thing that was so crazy

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to me was he announced this literally ten minutes after

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I gave him that title. Oh really, he messed me

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and he was like, so, I'm putting together this, this

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this loops compilation series, but I can't think of like

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a good name for it. And I said, well, the

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idea of a loop is that it's on a loop,

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so endless and I was like, well, endless ecstasy with

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three x's. That makes that make sense and that's marketable.

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She's like, oh, I really like that. I'll go with it.

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And then all of a sudden, ten minutes later this

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this photoshops cover. It's like, oh he he went right

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into the Endless Ecstasy, so I'm excited. And also he

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put Don Nudson on the cover. Love Don Knudsen. She's

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a big, a big breast fetish model from that period,

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so she's she's she kind of looks like Sue Hawk

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from Survivor with a mullet. So not the most attractive woman,

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but definitely.

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Speaker 3: Very memorable in these films, So Leslie Winston, Jamie Gillis,

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Gloria Leonard, Constance Money, long Down Silver Gross.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not happy about that long Don Silver, but whatever,

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I'm sure it's the Seka one. Probably it's probably the

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Sekah loop. Well, I don't know, maybe not. If he

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doesn't mention her, then it probably isn't.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because he'd want to mention Seka.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and he did. He is already planning his

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next release after that, which is probably the Serena release,

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because he posted that, he posted pictures of her. They

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spent the two days together doing commentaries and things like that,

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and I think it might be even a two volume set.

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So immediately I once I saw that, I was like, oh, well,

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Serena's done softcore, so we can have We should have

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Mark on to promote this and discuss the Serena film,

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and then that way, I mean, because Mark was just

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on something promoting I don't remember what it was now,

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but I was like, he wanted to come on to

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promote the Leslie Winson one. I was like, it's a

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little tough because it's not she never did softcore. We're

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trying to stay softcore, you know, as much as we can.

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But I mean, there are definitely options there.

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Speaker 2: She didn't do a whole lot of softcore though, from

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what she did enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean she did like she did Massage Parlor Wife,

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the two Phantasm movies, Hockey Tonk Nights, which is also

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with Georgina Spelvin and Carol Doda. Well, she did Pleasure Palace,

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which came out in a softcore version. She's she's done

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other software. She denied the Juggler, She's the Juggler. We

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can talk about Night of the Juggler does not count.

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She's in hardcore, the Paul Schrader movie. So she is like,

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she has a good career. She's was she in ten?

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I don't believe she was in ten. She would not

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have been on the set with an ed Haven.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, it's funny, we have options. Yeah. I just

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watched Massage Parlor Wife and I was I loved it,

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and I was like, we gotta get Mark on to

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talk about this because he's doing this Serna series. So yeah,

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that's perfect, So we'll talk to Mark.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm glad you liked that. I like that

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movie quite a bit. I do like that movie quite

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a bit. And that's one of his late Novacinae periods

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exploitations because by that time he was not really doing

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sex anymore. He was trying to go into horror and action.

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He was not he didn't want to do hardcore, so

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he wasn't. You know, there's not a lot of options

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for softcore that he could find, so he kept re

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issuing stuff like booby Trap and things like that with

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hardcore inserts.

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Speaker 2: Eventually, but yeah, watching booby Trap with hardcore that would

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I don't know if that's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be bad enough. No, it's bad enough. It's

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not good. But also then he did Behind Locked Doors

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with hardcore inserts as what is it? And then came

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Ecstasy I think was the title on that, and that's

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never surfaced on video, just like Love Explosions is the

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hardcore booby Trap that's never been on video either. Yeah,

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so if someone's going to put out the no backs,

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I want to see the hardcore versions. If he still

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has them, I think he must have them in the vaults.

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I just think that maybe something Word might have been

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hesitant to.

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Speaker 2: Do something with those. Right. Well, speaking of Massage Parlor Wife,

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me watching that, you've got a little what are we

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watching here? So I guess we can talk about a

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few things here before we get into Reviver. Yeah, so

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I did watch Massage Parlor Wife, loved it. Serena's just

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on fire throughout that entire movie. We'll talk about that

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probably further down the line. So what else did I watch?

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I got that Jack Weiss big Sleazy double feature from Severn,

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which I don't know. Did that go under the radar?

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I don't know. It was in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: So definitely it definitely did. I keep forgetting They have it,

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and it's very rarely on sale for a price that

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I think is fair to be honest, Yeah, I still

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need it. But you surprised me by revealing that there's

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an interview on there that is not listed right anywhere,

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And I'm just kind of like that would have sold

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me on this. What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have an interview with Marine Ridley. She plays

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the I Forget Dombala and she also has a small

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part in Death Brings Roses. She's like, okay, yeah, she's

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a hooker in the bed whatever.

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Speaker 1: She's very vivid implants, very vivid implants.

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Speaker 2: I compared her to like kind of like a Pat

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Barrington type of character.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yes, yes, I agree with those and the implant.

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But she's fascinating, fascinating. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So David Gregory actually got an interview with her very

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last minute and they put that on the disc And yeah,

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like I said, I think it's worth the price if

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you can get it at a fair price, because you know,

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you just don't get people like that on camera that

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are you know, she was very open about the whole thing,

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just went through her whole life story. Yeah, it's great,

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It's really great.

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Speaker 1: I like that crypto dark Secrets. I think that's a

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I enjoy that one.

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Speaker 2: Think it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Mosts are regional horror sex hybrid. Yeah, I quite enjoy

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Ithot in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good, you know, really good location for

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Halloween season type of movie to put on. Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Better than Naked Witch, which is on the same DVD.

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Something weird, the big Canon one, which is just it's fine.

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Speaker 2: And what else. I'll rewatched Daughters of Darkness after our

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episode in Canada, just to see Danielle again, which was nice.

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And what did you think of her in the I'd

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like her, Yeah, she I mean she's playing the Yeah,

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I mean I'm trying to connect her back to like

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maybe like a like the Mina character and the original

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Dracula sort of. I can kind of try to see

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where she's trying to, Yeah, trying to go with the character.

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I don't know, but no, I like it, but I

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don't have the like really, I don't have any of

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the new they have so many releases of this movie.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I need the four K bad.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I haven't heard that full story

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about her experience on the set or he heard anybody

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talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was apparently very the director was apparently very

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nasty to her. I don't I need to revisit those

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extras because well, I need the four K because the

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extras are ported from their previous DVD, which I don't

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have anymore. But I just remember him being very brutal

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to her, and I get I'm trying to remember if

470
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,720
she was imposed on him. I'm trying to remember. I don't.

471
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,200
I feel like maybe he didn't want her, but it

472
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:16,400
was somebody that the producers wanted. And so I mean

473
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,640
she's with John Carlin, who's great. He was also an

474
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,799
American TV star at that point, and then Delphine Zavik,

475
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:27,839
who was incredible, peerless. Yeah.

476
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: What's funny is you know Andrea Row's character it goes

477
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,480
through more you know, i'd say hardship at least on

478
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,119
screen than Danielle's character.

479
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like her in that too. Actually, I

480
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,839
like her in that considering that I think she learned

481
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,440
her lines phonetically. I don't think she she didn't know

482
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,920
English when they made that, I believe.

483
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. But what's funny is I didn't realize Danielle's character

484
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,160
is named Valerie in that movie.

485
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yes it is, that's right.

486
00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: So I message Eric, I'm like remember this. He's like, oh,

487
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,319
I totally forgot that. I was like, do you think

488
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,640
that was intentional? He's like, oh, yeah, they knew what

489
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,000
they were doing.

490
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: It probably was. At that point, I ain't me, you know,

491
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:09,160
I need to. I think I need to order that

492
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,200
four K but maybe today. I love that movie so much.

493
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,559
That was That was one that I bought blind when

494
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:19,039
it was on Anchor Bae VHS, and that was before

495
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
DVD so, and it was a VH. The Ankorbay used to

496
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:22,880
have the vhs where to have like a little thing

497
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,680
that would open and it would give you a little

498
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,319
liner notes on the inside of this little flap on

499
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,839
the VHS. And I watched that and it totally blew

500
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,759
me away. And uh, I've had every version on. I've

501
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:35,279
had a DVD. I've had the Blu Ray and I

502
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,079
still I got rid of the Blue Rig because I

503
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,519
was gonna get the four K and I still haven't

504
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,000
got it yet. So yeah, that's that's an old timer

505
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,319
for me. I love everything about that movie.

506
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, it's classic eur o cult, like classy

507
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,240
ye o cult is what I would say.

508
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,319
Speaker 1: You very classic. You don't get Delphine zayreg and that

509
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,640
and make it trashy. Oh, she wouldn't have signed on

510
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:58,400
it that, I don't think if it went down any

511
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,680
kind of road that she didn't like.

512
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,519
Speaker 2: So exactly. Yeah, I also on that tip. I also

513
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,480
went down the Rabbit Hole again. I rewatched Cronenberg's Rabbit

514
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,240
because I saw this on IMDb. They had said that

515
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,640
there was a scene from Valerie in Rabbit, so I'm like,

516
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,160
where is this scene? So I rewatched and apparently they said,

517
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,599
you know the movie that Rose Marilyn Chambers goes to

518
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:28,880
see at the Eve Theater is Valerie. So I rewatched Rabbit.

519
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,880
You'd never actually see the screen, but you can hear

520
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,880
dialogue in the background, and the dialogue is it's from

521
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,559
It's not Valerie, it's from the follow up. It's from

522
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:39,400
the movie your.

523
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: Favorite movie here and now the initiation. Yes, god, piece

524
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,640
of shit. Yeah, yeah, got it so mad.

525
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,759
Speaker 2: It's very obvious if you've seen the initiation the dialogue

526
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:51,720
is from that.

527
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,759
Speaker 1: Interesting. I'm glad you did that reconnaissance because I wondered

528
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,519
about that because I knew you'd mentioned that, and I

529
00:26:57,559 --> 00:26:59,599
was like, I totally don't remember. I would think I

530
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,720
remember or Dannie, well, we may showing up in that,

531
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,920
but that totally makes sense. Then it was like a

532
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,279
it was a poster on the exterior, but then the

533
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:09,799
movie didn't match. No, that's so you know what that's like.

534
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Taxi drivers like that they have the poster for Sometimes

535
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,400
Sweet Susan, but then they're watching a medical White Coader movie,

536
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480
which is not Sometimes Sweet Susan.

537
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: And taxi driver I'm looking at the poster right now. Yeah,

538
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,279
the movie that they that she goes to see is

539
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,240
called Models for Pleasure, and it kind of.

540
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,039
Speaker 1: A terrible retitle for Vallery if we hate.

541
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,519
Speaker 2: That it's actually the initiation.

542
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,319
Speaker 1: Oh does that make sense.

543
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,319
Speaker 2: If it's a little bit closer to the initiation, right

544
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:43,119
of because they're modeling. I mean there's modeling Valerie as well,

545
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:44,960
so whatever y.

546
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: Sort of yes, but it's modeling for like well, yeah,

547
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:53,240
it's modeling for the art, right, for the painting, right, well,

548
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:54,160
that movie so much.

549
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chatterbox, what do you think about Chatterbox?

550
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,599
Speaker 1: You know what, You're never gonna get a fair and

551
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,680
balanced review of me from Chatterbox because one Candice Ryleson

552
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,359
Love Her to the Moon and back. I cried when

553
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240
I found out she died. And Tom de Simone, who

554
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,799
I am friends with and was very surprised when I

555
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,960
asked the questions about Candice Rouleson, He's like, well, why

556
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,319
are you interested in her? And I was like, well,

557
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,599
she's great, she has good comic timing, she's gorgeous. He's like, yeah,

558
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,119
she was she was fine, Yeah, she was good. And

559
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,119
I was just like, Tom, you we're both gay. We

560
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,920
should be have this star worship thing. And he was like, yeah,

561
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119
I didn't. I didn't worship her star. I was like,

562
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,759
thanks Tom so made me feel like a weirdo. But

563
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,920
I enjoy it. I think Rip Taylor's fun in it.

564
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000
It's funnier than Pussy Talk, which is the movie that

565
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,240
it's remaking, which is the French Is it.

566
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 2: Actually remaking or is it just coincidental?

567
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Conceptually, it's not really a remake. It's the same concept

568
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:58,519
because that the first the French film. She's married and

569
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,759
it's about her being sexually satisfied, and it's very different

570
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:03,920
from this woman who's like an up and coming and

571
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,640
aspiring actress who's only gets a career. Because if you're

572
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,480
talking with you, right, But I enjoy it quite a bit,

573
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,319
and I'd love a nice restoration of that, which I

574
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,319
never see happening.

575
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. What's

576
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:19,880
why don't you see that happening?

577
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's with MGM, I believe because it

578
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,519
was a IP and it was Bruce Cohen Curtis, who

579
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,559
legendary gay producer who was involved with some other stuff.

580
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640
I think did he just he didn't do sex tet,

581
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240
he did some other stuff. It is very very queer

582
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,839
and camp. Yeah, and actually a friend of mine's brother

583
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:43,119
was was was like kind of bris Cone Curtis got

584
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,160
handsy with him at a screening and he was like

585
00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:50,079
he got me too. By Bruce Cohen. Curtis not great,

586
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,839
but I do enjoy that movie. I don't like the

587
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,559
Wang Dang Doodle song, but I'm like, oh, it's a

588
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,119
musical now great, it's.

589
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,559
Speaker 2: A New Dye musical, now it is.

590
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoy it. I will always Yeah, Like

591
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,720
I said, I don't listen to my opinion on it

592
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,599
because I'm fully biased. I will sit through that movie

593
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200
over and over because it's Candace. Yeah, and I worshiped

594
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,200
that woman so much.

595
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of what I alluded to in

596
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,240
my little quickie review, which is, yeah, it's one joke whatever,

597
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:25,279
you know. It's basically it's one joke, but it's Candace

598
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,240
and she's great, so it's but.

599
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. Alice Goodbody is the same thing

600
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,440
where it's one joke and it's an actress that I love.

601
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,079
And I still don't like that movie though. Something about Chowderbox,

602
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,559
I don't know what it is. I love Sharon Kelly.

603
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,400
I think she's great and Alice goodbody, but I hate

604
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,000
that movie.

605
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's Tom I don't know, gay sensibility

606
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:46,759
coming through.

607
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,319
Speaker 1: I think so Rip Taylor, Rip Taylor helps.

608
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other good people in there.

610
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: I like Alice good buddy.

611
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:58,319
Speaker 1: For the record, No, I love her in it. I'm

612
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,279
glad that she got a nice lead role, got to

613
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,559
do some good comic business.

614
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Really funny. Yeah, anyways, what do you got?

615
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Uh, well, you not mentioning the other movie that you saw.

616
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:10,519
You went to the movies.

617
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,839
Speaker 2: That's that exploitation of Jason, the.

618
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,759
Speaker 1: Biggest movie in America probably which you gave a decent review,

619
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
which I'm fine. You know, there's a lot of discourse

620
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,960
going on around about the Super Mario Brothers movie, and

621
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,839
I'm just kind of like, what's discourse. I'm not even yes,

622
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,079
there is. There's people that are saying like, this is

623
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:31,319
stupid and dumb, and there are a lot of parents

624
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:33,720
who are like, well, I don't care, my kid liked it,

625
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,000
and I'm not gonna argue with parents about a children's movie.

626
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,400
I think that's stupid. So there are people arguing about

627
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,759
the quality of children's movies. I'm gonna listen. This is

628
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,000
just kind of the way it is. If you feel

629
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
a certain way about it, then don't let your kids

630
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480
watch those movies. But that's on you. And if you

631
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880
don't have kids, then what are you talking about them? Yeah?

632
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: So I'm not waiting to any discourse about a children's movie.

633
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I'm not either unless it's no. I can't

634
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:03,759
think of any example why I would do that unless

635
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,079
I'm advocating for a film and I want like my

636
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,799
niece and nephew to watch it. Like all the Miyazaki's,

637
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,519
they're really into Miyazaki, and that's my doing. I will

638
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,119
take credit for that because I wanted them to start

639
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640
with good shit. I didn't want them to start with,

640
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,799
you know, terrible stuff.

641
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,319
Speaker 2: We have.

642
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: I've been watching so I'm trying to play catch up

643
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,599
on a lot of stuff. So I watched the I'm

644
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,599
two films into the Nikatsu Sweden Poor No Collection and

645
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,079
I'm not taken with these yet. But I haven't gotten

646
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,880
to the two that I know I'm gonna like, which

647
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,000
are the last two, which are the ones that have

648
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:43,240
my Queen's silviag Andersen and Ingersound those are I love

649
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:48,000
both of them. I actually watched So So Recard at

650
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,359
Club Super eight did visual essays on both of them,

651
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,839
and I cried at both of them, and then I

652
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,680
watched the Ingersound one. I was like devastated because the

653
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,839
spoiler alert things did not end well for her, and

654
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,839
I watched it again because I wanted to keep crying

655
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:08,920
to get it out of my system. But I haven't

656
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,880
watched the movies that they're in yet, but I love

657
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
both of them. They're both no longer with us and

658
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:18,440
Alston I watched. I finally finished the Nakatsu Roman Porno

659
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,359
DVDs that I bought from the MVD sale. Two of

660
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,640
them I'm getting rid of, so they're not. I finally

661
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,279
ran into my first my first pink films that I

662
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,559
didn't like. It had to happen, so it was a

663
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,640
women in prison movie. I'm going to probably try selling

664
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,920
them somewhere at some point. Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I

665
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,960
don't want them. One one was like a Pearl Diver

666
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,599
sex comedy which was not funny and uh just yeah,

667
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:47,839
I didn't didn't really work for me, and the other

668
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,119
was a women in prison sequel that I didn't care

669
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,640
for either. But I did see my first dirty Teacher movie,

670
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,680
or was a Dirty Teacher No female teacher, Female teacher.

671
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: If you didn't want to go through the hass of

672
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,799
selling them, you know, you can just throw them in

673
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:02,400
that package.

674
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: To me, Oh, that's true, I guess I could. I

675
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,240
have other DVDs in there for you. The package is

676
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,799
getting big.

677
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: But you have a little corner Do you have a

678
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,079
little corner nook over there with all the stuff you're

679
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:14,639
sending to me?

680
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,599
Speaker 1: Like a no, it's on a pile on top of

681
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,679
my bookshelf, so so it's out of the way. Yeah, yeah,

682
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:26,920
Female Teacher, Dirty Afternoon. I loved it was shockingly emotional.

683
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,159
It was a melodrama about like sexual trauma and healing

684
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:39,239
between this teacher and the daughter of a accused rapist.

685
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,599
And I was very surprised at how good it was.

686
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,440
I was just like, I cried at the end of it. Again,

687
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,639
I cried a lot of shit. This was was crazy

688
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,639
to me that this is not even the first Japanese

689
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,159
pink film. But I've cried at I've cried a female Leopard,

690
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,039
and there's a few other ones that are just like

691
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,239
they really hit you.

692
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,679
Speaker 2: I think people still don't understand, like just get past

693
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,960
the title, and these movies can be quite emotional. Yeah, yeah, layered,

694
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,119
like you're looking at this, you know, the poster and

695
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,239
this for this movie nothing like the post trail teacher

696
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,599
Dirty Afternoon. It's like you have to you just have

697
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:18,559
to get past that, or you know.

698
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: You don't even see the teacher. You don't even see

699
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
the teacher in the school room she has she's not

700
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,079
in this. She's not teaching. She's not in this in

701
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,519
the classroom or in the school. Ever. The entire movie,

702
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,559
the whole thing, is just the fact that she is

703
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,360
a teacher and something about her past is a teacher

704
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,920
in another place that is coming back to Hunter. I

705
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000
loved it so much. I thought it was really terrific.

706
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,639
I saw that watch Debauchery, which I loved, which has

707
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:46,280
the actress that's in Top Cut who she plays a

708
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,280
She plays a hairstylist that has diarrhea in that movie

709
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,719
in like a comedy role. And then in Debauchery is

710
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,519
she's playing like Catherine Deneuve in Belldejoor. It's a very intense, dramatic,

711
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,320
dramatic role. Also, there's a sequence where a literal wolf

712
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,760
spider is crawling on her. Real wolf spider crawling on

713
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,639
her and she's fondling her breast and I'm just like

714
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,159
Nakatsu really puts their actresses through it, but they rise

715
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:14,079
above and are able to deliver so much.

716
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: Ryoko waaabby, that's her.

717
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 1: Yes, she's so good. Yes, and actually Dirty Afternoon has

718
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Asako Ota, who I love, who was in Sex Hunter

719
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:31,800
and then she also was in Top Stripper, Top Stripper.

720
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Yeah he was. Yeah, she was the girl that seduced

721
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
the delivery guy. She's she's great in them. And I

722
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,880
meant I meant pink cut, not top cut. Pink cut

723
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,039
just related to Reviver since we're gonna eventually get into

724
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,599
a Reviver. Oh. I also watched Anita, the Christina Limberg movie,

725
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,679
which Club super eight put out. There's a second version

726
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,400
on there that's a French version in Alpha France released,

727
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,199
which doesn't have hardcore in it, but it completely rearranges

728
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,880
scenes and rearranges the new varrative of the film and

729
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:06,199
ads footage software footage to the actual footage from the

730
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,199
actual shoot and ADS footage to all of the sex scenes.

731
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,719
And it's only it's seventy eight minutes, so it's seventeen

732
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,239
minutes shorter. But the stuff they cut out is like

733
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,440
home life stuff, and I think there's there's another sequence

734
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719
that I'm I didn't miss the footage they cut out.

735
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,679
I'll put it that way. So in some ways I

736
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,679
preferred the seventy eight minute French version to the ninety

737
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,719
five minute Swedish version. Interesting, but it's still Christina Lilmberg.

738
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,320
It's her best performance. She's so so, so, so so

739
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,039
good in that, and that's at a time when she

740
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,679
wasn't really getting asked to act. She was showing up

741
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,079
and she was there because she took a close off

742
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,079
and looked great nude. And so for her to do

743
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:48,920
this role where she plays this teenage informaniac, she's so good.

744
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:52,159
She's really terrific, and it's her best role other than Thriller.

745
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,559
I think that those are her two best movies. But

746
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,400
Anita she gets to act with dialogue. Thriller is very different, right, Yeah,

747
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,679
and it is great. Picked that up if you haven't already,

748
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,119
I think if you can buy it on Vinegar Syndrome site.

749
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,400
I believe in melicine.

750
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm loving that the Club super Eights are getting over

751
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:13,559
on the melody scene and the Vinegar Syndrome site. Now

752
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,079
they've got like international releases, you know, they're they're tailored

753
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:19,119
for all markets.

754
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,159
Speaker 1: Well, the Anita, the Swedish version has additional extras on it.

755
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:26,840
It has two additional visual essays, which I think are essential.

756
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:28,679
So I would say, if you're going to get Anita,

757
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,280
order direct from Club super eight, or if you can

758
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,639
get it on Diabolik or some other site, I would

759
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,000
definitely get the Swedish version of that release, not the

760
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,519
Melosine version, okay, because it has that extra extra extra

761
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:41,039
stuff in it.

762
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: That's is it translated like the extra it is?

763
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the all the clubs Super eights. Because I ordered

764
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,960
everything directly from I typically try to order directly from them,

765
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920
just you know, mister money bags here, but I like,

766
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:55,719
I like to I like to support the companies directly

767
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,719
if I can, and especially because I know that money

768
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,760
is going directly to them rather than you know, as

769
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,840
a partner label of Melocine. I think that there's additional

770
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,280
stuff that might come out the back end if you

771
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,159
buy from them, so I'd rather just buy it directly

772
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,079
from Club Super eight. So I bought Anita directly from them,

773
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,719
and yeah, all of their extras have English subtitles. Everything

774
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,400
on the disc as English subtitles, which is great.

775
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,679
Speaker 2: I just order they cum blow the horn.

776
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,039
Speaker 1: I need to order that too, Yes, I think I'm

777
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:25,159
going to order that. Well something else. I will say

778
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,199
tip for people if you're anxious, you know, the melosines,

779
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:33,679
those slipcovers sell out, which I'm fine with. I don't

780
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,159
need to slipcover. Those are typically in stock if you

781
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,679
buy directly from Club super eight. So if you're desperate

782
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,199
for that slipcover, Club super eight will have the slipcover.

783
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,079
The melacines seld out because there's a certain amount that

784
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:47,920
they have and a certain amount Club super eight have,

785
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:52,800
So I don't need the slipcovers. Sound fine, but for

786
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400
those who care, I do need to get clumble and

787
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:57,920
cumblow the horn and for your has a thousand eyes

788
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,280
because that's longer than the version that I have app

789
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,480
with fan subs and that Solvak Anderson, who yeah, have

790
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,960
you You haven't seen any solve Anderson yet? I don't

791
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,039
think I have not sure you? She is she? You

792
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,679
know who? She's very much like She's like a Swedish

793
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,159
solidub Meadonda. She is very she has a similar vibe

794
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:28,639
to solid kind of sad eyes, very captivating. So yeah,

795
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,840
that's how the best way I would describe her. This

796
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,199
is a Swedish solidub Meadonda. I think she's absolutely fantastic.

797
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,559
But the last thing I wanted to mention was so

798
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,559
I was influenced by an Instagram ad to buy a

799
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:48,719
release by a company I'd never heard of called Petroglyph Media.

800
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,119
And it's a new company just started. Uh. It's a

801
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,039
double feature of two films by a Colombian director. It's

802
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:02,079
twenty dollars with a slips leave, and I ordered it

803
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:05,440
and I got it like three days later, super quick shipping.

804
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,840
It's eliminated of a thousand, and it's a double feature.

805
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320
The first one is a movie called Sinister Funeral, which

806
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,800
is a seventy nineteen seventy eight kind of like a

807
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,880
supernatural slash murder mystery kind of thing, which I quite liked.

808
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,079
But the set double feed to the second feature is

809
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,880
a movie called The Golden Triangle, which is kind of

810
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,599
like a it's a mix of the supernatural with like

811
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,239
Indiana Jones, so it's like this adventure with like this

812
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,679
Golden Triangle. It's I reviewed both on letterbox and I'm

813
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,760
hoping more people. I linked to the website in my

814
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,440
letterbox reviews. I'm hoping more people buy these releases. If

815
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,480
you're a Momda Macaber person and you like things you

816
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,320
like like Turkish cinema, Filipino cinema, any of the Indonesian

817
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,320
stuff that they put out, then you would love these.

818
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:56,000
They're really they're very good. Especially the Golden Triangle is

819
00:41:56,119 --> 00:42:01,039
so like Turkish exploitation. There's like crazy fight scenes, there's

820
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:05,519
killer plants there, there's like there's this little island monster

821
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:09,280
that's played by a kid covered in moss like it's

822
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,320
it's it's so much fun. They're very cheap and low budget,

823
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,599
but there's so much fun. And I really loved both

824
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,159
of them, and I'm really hoping that they'll put out

825
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,159
more stuff like this. It's for twenty bucks. It's also

826
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,119
a steal. The first film is scanned from the last

827
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,079
remaining thirty five millimeter print and it looks good. The

828
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,480
second one is a one inch tape master, which that's

829
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,280
all that exists of that, but it I was really,

830
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,559
you know, I was floored by that release. It's already

831
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,519
one of my favorites of the year. All that's missing

832
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:42,960
is some historical and cultural context. There's no like liner notes, commentary,

833
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:46,480
no commentary, no visual essay, no interviews, no nothing. So

834
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:49,360
it really is like a labor of love by this

835
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,639
guy who came. Yeah, the guy came out of nowhere

836
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,360
and was just like, I wanted to do this for

837
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,400
like my kids, because my kids are Colombian on my

838
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,920
wife's side. And yeah, he put out these two Colombian movies,

839
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,639
like bring on more Columbian movies, Bring on more South

840
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,760
American movies like this please, because Yeah, I was really

841
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,920
impressed by this release.

842
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on Ryan's Disconnected show a while back

843
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,320
and he really talked, Yeah, you'll have to watch that.

844
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,039
Speaker 1: It's really I need to go watch that.

845
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the from he talks about how expensive this is

846
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,639
to get these restorations done and shipping you know, prints

847
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:28,880
and negatives around. Yeah, it's really It's not for the

848
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,679
faint of heart.

849
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,079
Speaker 1: No, that's why I would never do it.

850
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.

851
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Much more comfortable begging people to do what I want

852
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,719
rather than actually doing what I want because they have

853
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,320
the money and the access that I don't. So that's

854
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,360
why I'm fine, you know, being a pest to Oscar

855
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,159
about secret places, secret things or anything else that they have,

856
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,159
and I'm just like, please put this out. But yeah, no,

857
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
I admire that he took that he took the took

858
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:57,280
the plunge and did it and it came out of

859
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,039
quality product And I would never have heard about it

860
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,239
if it wasn't for this targeted Instagram ad that like,

861
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,880
had this gorgeous, gorgeous artwork and I was like, what

862
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,599
the hell is this? And then I clicked it. They

863
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,199
did a really good trailer with footage from the movie,

864
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,239
and I was like, this is a for twenty bucks.

865
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,320
This is a blind buy. I had no problem buying

866
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,199
this for twenty bucks, and I it's a steal at

867
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,280
twenty bucks, I gotta tell you, especially because we've talked

868
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,800
about this, We've talked about putting out things price to own,

869
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,039
very nicely priced with maybe with you don't need necessarily extras.

870
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,159
There's enough on the on the back of the box

871
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:33,800
and the line in the box copy that tells you

872
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,199
what they are and why the director is important. It

873
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,519
did leave me with more questions, though, So now I'm like,

874
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,800
I'd be happy if he just posted something on the YouTube,

875
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,800
just kind of like saying okay, so here's who this

876
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,599
director was, you know, just to give me a little

877
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,920
more info. But I'm excited to see what else they

878
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,480
come out with. It kind of reminds me of like

879
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,400
Cellular Dreams or they can out of like this, these

880
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,880
little companies that do like one or two releases a year,

881
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,920
and I'm just like, sometimes that's enough if you put

882
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,199
everything you have into it.

883
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: And they're not a partner label with anybody, so they're

884
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:09,960
kind of making out their own living there. Yeah, it's

885
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,719
not easy. It can be yeah, fulfilling or hopefully get

886
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,800
a good audience, and you know, you get that audience,

887
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,679
they're gonna buy everything that you put out. Once you

888
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,480
show that you're consistently putting out interesting stuff that you're

889
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,559
not going to find anywhere else. Yeah, people will, people

890
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:27,119
will buy it.

891
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see what

892
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:30,719
they come up with.

893
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,199
Speaker 2: He should just do commentaries himself, you know, I don't

894
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,519
know if.

895
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: He's coming, well, that's what that's what the that's what

896
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,320
the Hankle would just do your own commentary is. That's fine.

897
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,239
We don't need to know every single thing about the

898
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,000
production because sometimes that's just not going to be available,

899
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,920
So even just like a basic or just even like

900
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000
a little visual essay, or even if you do, like

901
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,920
I don't know, because of the way that the design

902
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,159
of the menus or the the program is, we just

903
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:58,519
want to do like a selected scenes commentary or something.

904
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,199
It's like, well, because one of them, with the Sinister Funeral,

905
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,639
is one hundred and four minutes long, So it is long,

906
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,280
and there's definitely some pacting problems, but there's so much

907
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,119
good stuff in it that I was just like mesmerized

908
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,199
the whole time. But that might be tough to do

909
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,079
a commentary for one hundred and four minutes if you

910
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,280
don't know every single thing about the production. But then

911
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:21,760
like the other one is ninety three minutes, and that

912
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,039
you don't feel about ninety three minutes, that goes way quicker. Okay,

913
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,800
But yeah, I had to rave about them just because

914
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,760
I I would love them to sell out of only

915
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,960
one thousand, Yeah, I'd love for them to sell out

916
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,039
and do more.

917
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: Did you have anything else here? I think you got

918
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,559
a one last Are you still working through the Black

919
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:41,440
Emanuel box?

920
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I haven't made any progress. I'm still on Emmanuel and Bangkok.

921
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,639
Oh Okay, that's like the third one on the set.

922
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920
I've only watched Black Emmanuel one, Black Emmanuel two, and

923
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,480
I've gotten any further because I keep getting stuff that

924
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:56,079
shows up.

925
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,559
Speaker 2: What do you think of Black and Manuel two? Quick?

926
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Are you a fan?

927
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't hate it? Okay, I don't hate it. I

928
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,280
think she's not the best lead leading lady. There's enough

929
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,760
and that I.

930
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I need to rewatch it again to see how.

931
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: I love the soundtrack. And actually I will say, see

932
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,599
there's a song that song Going to Hawaii I fucking

933
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:21,760
love and that came out on vinyl. I've never been

934
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,280
able to find a copy. So when they said they

935
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,880
were gonna have two CDs in that set, one was

936
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480
gonna be the non Nico Fidenko stuff songs from the

937
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,320
other movies in the set, I was like, oh, great,

938
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,840
maybe look up Going to Hawaii. No Going to Hawaii.

939
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,000
So I'm just like, God, damn it, the one probably

940
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,800
the best thing about that movie, and it's not. It's

941
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,920
not available, so they kind of like get their rip

942
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,679
of it, or what if you're dealing with the licensers,

943
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:49,519
they should have the tapes. But that's what I'm thinking.

944
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,920
Either they don't have the tapes or the Licenser doesn't

945
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,960
have the rights anymore and they kind of went away.

946
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,280
I don't know, but you think about it, Bald and Bembo.

947
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,159
Stuff is either not available, it took forever to come out,

948
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,400
if Luto Narrow took forever to come out finally, and

949
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,679
that is there are parts included on the on that

950
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,280
CD uh in that collection, but I have the I

951
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,519
have the have the vinyl of that.

952
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: Anyway, So four Flies Records, they've been putting out some stuff,

953
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,400
kind of Italian niche soundtrack stuff.

954
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, for a while there, I was buying everything

955
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,639
they put out because it was very limited, so I

956
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,039
just wanted it. And I have some stuff of theirs

957
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,320
that I don't even want any more that's worth a fortune,

958
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,119
and I'm just kind of like, well, I guess they

959
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,880
could go on discogs. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I

960
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,559
have that Laura soundtrack, which I'm kind of like, do

961
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:42,280
I send this to Gentry becuse I don't I like

962
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719
the soundtrack, but I don't know if I need that vinyl.

963
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,840
Well isn't worth like five hundred bucks.

964
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,599
Speaker 2: Now to celebrate the release of the book when it

965
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:51,159
comes out, you can send me out.

966
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I will

967
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,840
part with it because you know I wouldn't sell that,

968
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,559
I would send it to you. I was gonna get

969
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:01,880
rid of it, all right.

970
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,199
Speaker 2: Should we go to the Philippines?

971
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: We should.

972
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: Revivor two? Yeah we are. Let me just start with

973
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,800
my initial thoughts here. Okay, this is Oscar's baby, right,

974
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,360
I think we can say that is? How involved is

975
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,199
Joe in these Do you.

976
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: Think Joe with anything these days? Like, I mean, Steven's

977
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,480
running his run himself, ragget at Melosine Right now we're

978
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,039
basically by himself, with Dino helping in a few other people,

979
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:20,639
And I like, this is this is supposed to be

980
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,360
Joe's baby. I don't know what Joe is an except

981
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,480
reviewing shit on letterbox, giving it bad reviews that make

982
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:27,480
one of ripping apart. You know, we used to be

983
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:29,320
able to have arguments about this ship. Now he doesn't

984
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:35,639
text me back. But no, I love Joe, I mean Joe,

985
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:39,559
and we've been friends for a fucking long time. But well,

986
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,280
so he's not he's not that involved. I don't believe

987
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,440
you can look at the credits after every reviver. I

988
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,960
mean he's on there for obvious reasons. I don't think

989
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,159
he's his hands on as Oscar is or anybody else really.

990
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:54,519
I mean, Dino was credited more on this release than

991
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:56,519
Joe was. I'm Reviver too, well.

992
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get at is. Yeah, this is This

993
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,519
does seem like Oscar's baby, and I really love what

994
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:05,280
he's doing with it, which is he's finding films that

995
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,360
go well together. Obviously these two have a very clear

996
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,840
through line. But even the last Reviver one, which was

997
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,400
it was it was Carolina's themed. Everything around it was Carolina's.

998
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,480
This one is Philippines themed, and it's I guess you

999
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,239
could call it horror themed as well, which is nice

1000
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,639
for all the horror fans out there, there are plenty

1001
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:28,519
of them.

1002
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: No sexploitation here, not s exploitation yet.

1003
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,159
Speaker 2: So I'm just yeah, I love the theming around it,

1004
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,920
and I'm really excited to see where they go next.

1005
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,039
You know what Year three is. We know Chris Poscioli's

1006
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:44,039
involved with Number three, but that doesn't help me like

1007
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,280
try to figure out what it could be because Chris

1008
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,400
is in has got hands and obviously martial arts, but

1009
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:51,480
I don't think it's going to be a martial arts.

1010
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it probably won't be because of some

1011
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:57,719
rights issues. But he mentioned he says that it's a

1012
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,800
it's a endangered film, and there are dozens of those,

1013
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,960
so that does not help at all. Yeah, so I

1014
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,880
would think it would be I would hope there would

1015
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,880
be one that does not have found next to it

1016
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,280
on that Actually, you know what one? Do you ever

1017
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,239
see the Win? You didn't see Wednesday Children? Have you?

1018
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,199
This little low budget movie about like these killer children.

1019
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,280
It was very good. You had to order it directly

1020
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,719
from the director and he sent it to you in

1021
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,679
like a little paper sleeve that he illustrated. That one

1022
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,320
I would love to see if it was amount of reviver.

1023
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,719
That one needs a wider audience. But I'd prefer that

1024
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,559
one says found on it. I'd like one that doesn't

1025
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,559
say found on it, to be honest. But we'll see.

1026
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really interesting release because the first

1027
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,880
film I'm calling it the first because it's like on

1028
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,840
the left side of the of the menu. Did you

1029
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:47,880
watch them in that order?

1030
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I did? And it's funny because when I posted that,

1031
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,119
I had it. So here's my thing. So I got

1032
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:56,039
it before you, and I was very careful because I

1033
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,039
know you probably don't want to be spoiled either. So

1034
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,480
I posted that I had it, and I turn my

1035
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:04,239
fucking phone off, and I turned my laptop off, and

1036
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,719
so I turned my phone back on. Messages some Dino

1037
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,760
a text from Oscar like hope you enjoy. Then Dino

1038
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,880
said to you bit horror terror, and then he got

1039
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960
mad because I wasn't responding. I was like, you know,

1040
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:20,800
I turned my phone off. I want to experience this

1041
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,280
without any distractions, and I'm glad I did. But yeah,

1042
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,960
it makes sense. I just started with the left and

1043
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,320
then it just kept going. You if you watch it,

1044
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,119
it doesn't take you back to the menu. So I

1045
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,159
just kept watching it. You know, it's just a program.

1046
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: I told that. The Dinos, Well, he's like, well, you

1047
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,079
watched it in the wrong order. I think he was

1048
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,800
trying to be funny or something, because incorrect. The first

1049
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,519
one's not his favorite, but the first.

1050
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: One is what you should start with, because the second

1051
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,119
one is such a slam dunk that you want to

1052
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,239
start with the quote unquote weaker one. I still liked it,

1053
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,039
but it's not it did not wow me like the

1054
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:55,760
second one did.

1055
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so play it, just play it just hit

1056
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,840
play and it'll play it in the order it's supposed

1057
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,000
to be played, right, we'll go through all the special

1058
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,199
features and everything, which again is a thing that I

1059
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,519
really enjoyed about how they're how they're authoring this disc

1060
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,599
is you know, you just put it in and let

1061
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:17,440
it play and you're going to get Yes. I didn't,

1062
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,280
I didn't clock it. What the what the length is

1063
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,440
of everything together? But it's probably about two and a

1064
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,840
half hours, three hours with the two films, plus like

1065
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,280
three or three fifteen minute special features.

1066
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: Don't remember if there's a time on there I'm thinking of,

1067
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,480
I don't so what's his Backyard Bloodbaths thing from AGFA

1068
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:38,079
and that had the full thing on it, but yeah,

1069
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:39,000
I don't remember. Now.

1070
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: So these are two Filipino Filipino American what would you.

1071
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,679
Speaker 1: Say, Filipino shot American financed, Yes, productions from like a

1072
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,960
lot of a lot of Filipino stuff at that time.

1073
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,440
I mean, like yeah, yeah, a lot of the Filipino

1074
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,679
stuff that we saw here with American people in it

1075
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,159
were financed by yeah, Americans.

1076
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: So these are these there are two four Journey Productions releases. Well,

1077
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,920
the titles are we have the Horror from Beyond is

1078
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,199
the first one, and that's the one with the water damage.

1079
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:16,639
Speaker 1: So yes, which actually I I it worked for me

1080
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,639
when I watched it because the idea of like this,

1081
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,960
the plot had something to do with an alien invader

1082
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,960
coming drawn to Earth because of waves and yes, and

1083
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,440
so I was like, this works visually, this works. It didn't.

1084
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,320
But it didn't. It didn't bother me. And it was

1085
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,119
only one reel. I think I think it was only

1086
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,440
real or was it real four?

1087
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:38,599
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1088
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,039
Speaker 1: But everything else is fine, Yeah, I mean it's the

1089
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,760
original camera negative, so you're not going to get anything else.

1090
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, like they said in the feature special features

1091
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:50,920
or and the text, the tiny tiny text that they

1092
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,400
put up on the screen before and after the movie.

1093
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Is I do wish it was bigger. Yeah, my screen

1094
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:58,559
is bigger.

1095
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,599
Speaker 2: Yes, make the text the little bigger.

1096
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're old. I'm old.

1097
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,039
Speaker 2: But as they said in that, there was no prints

1098
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:06,920
made of this. That's all there is is the.

1099
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: OCN because it was never distributed, it was never sold

1100
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,960
to anybody, never hit TV, never theatrically released, nothing. It

1101
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,360
was basically was a Monster Camp Sunshine situation where these

1102
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,199
negatives Monster Camp Sunshine never came out Monster Camp Sunshine

1103
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,480
was a negative that Something Weird got from movie Lab,

1104
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,079
never was distributed, never picked up, and also All American Honeymoon.

1105
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:34,559
Another one, the Kamal Harulu movie. There are newspaper articles

1106
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:38,599
about that saying it's in production, never released. So when

1107
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:40,960
it came out from the negative from Something Weird, the

1108
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,760
first time anybody had ever seen it, and it's terrible,

1109
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:47,320
but it does have in Linden, so kind of worth thing.

1110
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:51,519
But yeah, these had no they had no footprint. There

1111
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:55,199
were newspaper articles about they were planned to be sold

1112
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:58,639
as part of a package deal, which never happened. That's

1113
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,239
part of one of the big extra on here which

1114
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,119
I liked, was we find out who who had who

1115
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:10,320
got access to these, which is Marco Marco Jochum I

1116
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,760
believe that is his name. Yeah. So, and if you

1117
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,400
know these Fist Break Bricks, he was the teenage son

1118
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:22,400
of his father Ben was uh, I forget what he did.

1119
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:29,159
He wasn't necessarily a film distributor. Larry something, yes, Larry,

1120
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:33,639
not Ben Yes, Larry. So he's interviewed in these Fist

1121
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:36,559
Break Bricks because as a teenager he edited together the

1122
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:39,079
Bruce Lee Green Hornet movies that were then reissued in

1123
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:43,159
the seventies after Bruce Lee died. So he has been

1124
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:46,320
around for that long in the film world. And this

1125
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:49,360
was another situation. This is another movie lab situation where

1126
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:53,599
they were they were holding auctions for materials.

1127
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his dad bought him at the auction.

1128
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he bought him as well as his own ship.

1129
00:57:58,079 --> 00:57:59,840
I believe, because I think it was a situation where

1130
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,800
he pass due bills and he even said, yeah, he

1131
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,559
just went to this auction and bought his ship back

1132
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:06,159
and it was less than the bills that they were

1133
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,199
good they were charging him. It's like, that's pretty smart. Actually.

1134
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he also got Red Roses and Beware Black Widow.

1135
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,119
Is that from this same movie lab auction, because that's possible.

1136
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where did you hear that?

1137
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: That was on the special features? They have clips of

1138
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,440
those two movies when they're talking.

1139
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,639
Speaker 1: Oh, well, then that's possible. Yes, and that's if those

1140
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:28,639
are included in there, then yeah, probably so.

1141
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: But then I'm wondering were those negatives?

1142
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, those those are original camrainatives.

1143
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,159
Speaker 2: Okay.

1144
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Red Rose is a passion. That's why it's so gorgeous.

1145
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,960
It's an original Camarinator.

1146
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what I was wondering. Why why are

1147
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:43,000
they calling out these two you know, these exploitation films

1148
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,880
when they're talking about this, But they must be because

1149
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,559
it was the Negatives that he rescued.

1150
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, right, But then he also had weird

1151
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:53,400
stuff in that storage and like the camp, I don't

1152
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,400
know what the element was for Cannibal Holocaust. I have

1153
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,360
no idea what that was.

1154
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,159
Speaker 2: You know that Marco like opening up a store and

1155
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:04,159
shed it is always it always reminds me like, thank

1156
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,880
god we have vinegar syndrome to take some of this

1157
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,679
stuff and properly catalog it and store it.

1158
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Well, that's all the ship they didn't take too, so

1159
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:18,199
you know that that So what that means is that

1160
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:20,559
stuff is either duplicates of stuff they already have or

1161
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,480
can't get rights to, or it's unusable. So it's just there,

1162
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:27,760
I believe, is all the other ship. All the other

1163
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,440
ship they have like they have they have the red

1164
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,559
Roses of Passion, they have the where the Black Widow,

1165
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,800
they have these, they have the blood Theirs negative, which

1166
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,199
they also got from Marco. So that's the thing they're

1167
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:44,679
not gonna let if they're gonna if they're buying these,

1168
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:47,519
they're gonna keep them in their storage because they trust

1169
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:49,679
their storage. They're not gonna be like, oh yeah, sure,

1170
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,880
we'll just get them. We need them, No, give them

1171
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,360
to us. We don't trust their storage. That too many

1172
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:58,320
potential bad things can go wrong.

1173
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:02,159
Speaker 2: You know, when this this was La that they show

1174
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:05,119
in the clip is LA storage units. But back when

1175
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:07,079
it was in New York, when they had a unit

1176
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,119
over there, that's where the water damage came from. So

1177
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,960
it's like, yeah, you don't want that happening again.

1178
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:14,599
Speaker 1: I wonder what I wonder what storage it was in.

1179
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:19,159
I just Manhattan Mini storage. That's where Robertas put her

1180
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:21,920
stuff before that was transferred over to Feniger syndrome.

1181
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said the lost Yeah, with that and

1182
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,840
that flood, they lost too negatives, which is like, it's

1183
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,159
funny when you think about that. It's not funny, but

1184
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:35,480
it's it's like to a certain to an archivist, that's

1185
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:39,840
like that's losing like a child, you know, as Oscar says, like,

1186
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:44,079
it's all you know, every all these films are important,

1187
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,480
and if all we have is a negative of them,

1188
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,519
when it's gone, that history is completely gone. It's it's right,

1189
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:51,840
he's ever going to see this again?

1190
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's like when we I think, I think

1191
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,599
when we talked about previously, like the Chancellor films, where

1192
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:00,559
you and Alice were like, well, if we can talk

1193
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,679
to Sandy Johnson's kids, then we'll know where the Chancellor

1194
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:05,519
stuff is. No, we won't. Those negatives are gone. Alex

1195
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:09,599
has already confirmed that that the place where those negatives

1196
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,719
are being held they were dumping them in the garbage.

1197
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,800
So when it's gone, it's gone. You have to rely

1198
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,119
on theatrical prints, and that's not that's not great because

1199
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:20,920
then you have to deal with people like Harry Garrow

1200
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,960
or or all these others, the guy who has the

1201
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,280
trailer for Tricks of the Trade, which who will not

1202
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,000
let it out of sight or let anyone access it. Yeah,

1203
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:33,599
I mean, it's obviously better to have pre print elements.

1204
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:35,559
Sometimes you don't have a choice, Like Boots in The

1205
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:38,320
Preacher was a thirty five millimeter theatrical print because that's

1206
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,880
all they had because nobody. I don't know where that

1207
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,679
would have been held in storage in North Carolina, but yeah,

1208
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:47,079
who knows. Patterson's family might not have even had access

1209
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:47,320
to it.

1210
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this film, yeah, the first film Horror from Beyond.

1211
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,920
I should also say this is sort of a production connection,

1212
01:01:57,199 --> 01:02:02,800
but it's also has a couple shared as Eddie, Eddie

1213
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,239
and Fante.

1214
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Susan everything. I mean, he's another one. He's like

1215
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:10,079
Vic Diasm that he's in everything, Like he was the

1216
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:13,679
head of wasn't he in Sweet He's in Sweet Sugar.

1217
01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:16,280
He's the head guy in the prison in Sweet Sugar.

1218
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,599
That's what I remember him from mostly, But he's in

1219
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:19,360
so much stuff.

1220
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: He's so memorable, Like he just has a memorable face

1221
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,079
and yeah, you know when you see him.

1222
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,639
Speaker 1: He's great. He that reminds me of like Regginalder, but

1223
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:36,000
not as scarred, okay as Reggiealder. He's more photogenic than Reggialder. Yeah.

1224
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to that like print damage we were talking

1225
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:41,599
about from the water. You know, if you watch again

1226
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:45,000
the special feature with Oscar, you see him like with

1227
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:49,559
a like a straight razor just trying to pry this

1228
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,239
print apart. That was, you know, damaged. And I think

1229
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,280
they even said it took two years of work to

1230
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,760
get this thing in shape. So it's like, yeah, it's crazy.

1231
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: I believe it.

1232
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it also made me think about this fact

1233
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:08,519
that you know, nobody had known what this film was.

1234
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:11,639
So I'm just trying to go through Oscar's thought process here,

1235
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:15,199
like he has this, like how does he even know

1236
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,840
this is worth spending two years of his life on

1237
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,320
the thing.

1238
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: You can't put it on a flatbed, You can't understand

1239
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:23,199
what he's.

1240
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:26,519
Speaker 2: Just looking at the images that he's that he's seen

1241
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,840
as he's winding through and sort of like unraveling this

1242
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,000
damage print, Like.

1243
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:33,679
Speaker 1: Right, well, all you can do is kind of just

1244
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:36,360
like a basic web search and see if anything with

1245
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,679
that title comes up, because that's all you can do.

1246
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I guess leads to that other bonus feature

1247
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,519
with Chris Koenig.

1248
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:47,519
Speaker 1: Chris and I had a very public discussion about how

1249
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,360
he thinks that sex sex films, sex sex films and

1250
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,800
sex quotation of adult films don't mean anything. There's no

1251
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,159
meaning to them. Oh yeah, just entertainment.

1252
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, well, not like horror movies.

1253
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:00,679
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're a film historian with any kind of

1254
01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:03,320
background in film, it's crazy for you to be saying

1255
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,800
that in twenty twenty six, is all I'm gonna say.

1256
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,719
So yeah, I don't love that. I will give him props.

1257
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:15,039
I did like his peace on this actually because it

1258
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:18,599
gave that background that it gave really good background that

1259
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:24,199
we needed. Not all the background obviously, because there's only

1260
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,320
so much you can discover about these films, but enough

1261
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,159
that it really gave a good context on what the

1262
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:33,679
films were, why we didn't see them. So yeah, I'll

1263
01:04:33,679 --> 01:04:34,960
give him props for that for sure.

1264
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the people making them and you

1265
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,039
know their motives behind it.

1266
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's funny. So when I was watching the

1267
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,199
credits for the Horror from Beyond the first title, I

1268
01:04:47,199 --> 01:04:49,239
saw these Philippine names and I was like, oh, okay,

1269
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,480
so it was Filipino movie. Then I saw newt Arnold

1270
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:56,760
and I immediately was like, oh shit, this better not

1271
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,000
be as bad as blood Thirst, because Jesus Christ, I

1272
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,679
do not want to sit there's something as bad as Bloodthirst.

1273
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,840
Because Bloodthirst another the only film of this group that

1274
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,079
was released somehow in nineteen seventy one is black and

1275
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:15,440
white Filipino horror film released. Blood Beast is one of

1276
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,360
the blood blood feasts. Bloodthirst looks gorgeous, so boring, so boring,

1277
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,280
and it's interesting. There's a there's a there's a listing

1278
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,239
on IMDb for a movie called The Bloodless Vampire, and

1279
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,159
it says the trivia says, so it looks like this

1280
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,639
was completed but never distributed. The plot synopsis is the

1281
01:05:33,639 --> 01:05:35,519
same plot as blood Thirst. So I'm just like, well,

1282
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:38,400
it's the same movie. Yeah, it wasn't shot as blood Thirst.

1283
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,960
It was shot as the Bloodless Vampire.

1284
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,679
Speaker 2: Obviously, that's the connections Chris made as well. I think

1285
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:44,159
through his.

1286
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I saw black and white nude Arnold

1287
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,239
and then also and then Robert Winston showed up super

1288
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,559
friggin hot Robert Winston, and I was like, Okay, this

1289
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:56,199
is definitely definitely at the same time as Bloodthirst because

1290
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:59,320
it's all these same people involved. And then I wondered, Okay,

1291
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,039
does that mean the movie when I'm done, when I

1292
01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:03,440
move on to the second movie, is it going to

1293
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,400
be connected? And it was.

1294
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh so you were thinking that they would have

1295
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:09,119
that they were maybe going to re release Bloodthirst.

1296
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I was just like Knute Arnold

1297
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,119
made some other piece of shit at the same time,

1298
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,440
just like worried about the quality because of it. I

1299
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,760
was worried about the quality exactly I was. I didn't.

1300
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,440
I knew it wasn't blood Thirst because I know the

1301
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,199
opening to blood Thirst. But I was just like, oh God,

1302
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:25,559
all these names, this this better not be like a

1303
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:28,719
Bloodthirst adjacent piece of shit. And it wasn't. I thought

1304
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,480
it was very It was much more creative. I thought

1305
01:06:31,519 --> 01:06:34,840
it that. I think the pacing was better. Not the

1306
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,239
fastest movie, but still I was compelled enough to keep going,

1307
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,039
unlike Bloodthirst, which is such a chore to get through.

1308
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I watched that opening, that opening scene with

1309
01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:49,360
the casket kind of floating up over the credits, you know,

1310
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,960
I'm imagining Oscar, you know, looking at these images as

1311
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,800
he's trying to clean up this. This you know, this real.

1312
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,239
And then I'm like, Okay, I can kind of see

1313
01:07:01,239 --> 01:07:04,320
why he got invested in this, because if you're just

1314
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,920
looking at those opening credits, you're like, wait, I need

1315
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,280
to see this, and I think this might be worth

1316
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,079
my time.

1317
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,039
Speaker 1: Unless you're like me and you see Nut Arnold and

1318
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:18,679
you immediately pause, yeah, because you're like, oh, I'm.

1319
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: Sure he knew that name as well, so he probably

1320
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,519
immediately made the connection about like what this was right,

1321
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:28,920
And then once he realized what it was, He's probably like, Okay,

1322
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,559
well we did Bloodthirst before. This guy apparently did other movies.

1323
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,719
I'm kind of curious and maybe we can yeah make

1324
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,559
something of this and at least like complete complete the

1325
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:43,400
set is kind of what they're doing now, right, there's

1326
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,800
one left that they haven't there's one left.

1327
01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:48,039
Speaker 1: That I I don't see that happening.

1328
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: Though, Lisa Luisa.

1329
01:07:49,239 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's God, I don't know what it would

1330
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,559
I don't know what it would come out as or with,

1331
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,440
because they even note in that in that note at

1332
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,599
the end of the Oscar featurette that it's incomplete incomplete. Yeah,

1333
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:04,360
it doesn't exist in its complete version, So I don't

1334
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,440
know what we'll be seeing if if it comes out.

1335
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:10,800
The clips of it are look really gorgeous, right, so,

1336
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:13,920
and that's something even I would give blood Thirst. They

1337
01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:18,560
all these films are really gorgeously photographed, really absolutely stunning.

1338
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,960
But Paradise of Terror is just like next level. Once

1339
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,920
it gets inside the house, it plays with shadows so much,

1340
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,680
the lighting. There's really those really good visual effects in

1341
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,079
there that like really startled me for their time. I

1342
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,880
was very impressed with like the painting coming to Life.

1343
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,079
I was really impressed with that. I need to watch

1344
01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:39,560
it again. But I'm just by the end of the movie,

1345
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,079
I'm just kind of like, so, what what happened? And

1346
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:46,119
what the what? What's going on? It doesn't have any

1347
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:50,319
closure to it, so it got it is. I need

1348
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:55,039
to rewatch it. Uh yeah, but.

1349
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,359
Speaker 2: Uh but let me ask you this, because I didn't

1350
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,560
understand that note at the beginning of Paradise. If we're

1351
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,800
talking about the second film here, Paradise of Terror, they

1352
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,560
mentioned that there was a title too, by the way, yeah,

1353
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:10,079
bad title. They're talking about the in camera framing issues

1354
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:13,520
were left uncorrected. Do you know what I'm talking about.

1355
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,720
It was like a note at the beginning it said

1356
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,920
that they left some in camera framing issues. I didn't

1357
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,239
notice any weirdness.

1358
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh see, I didn't notice that either.

1359
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,079
Speaker 2: Well, you have to watch it all right.

1360
01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:27,399
Speaker 1: Another reason I don't watch again, that is something that's

1361
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,880
something else that kind of bothers me, that bothers me

1362
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,520
above center. Well, there's something about concenter my stuff that

1363
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,720
bothers me in general, which is the the number of

1364
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,520
chapters correspond to the number of reels, so you can't

1365
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,239
really accurately fast forward, skip through a movie with chapters

1366
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,119
like I don't want to go back? I like, no,

1367
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:49,800
I don't If you want to go back a bit,

1368
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,159
if you walked out of the room to go do

1369
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:54,920
something and then like jump all the the way back

1370
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,359
twenty minutes to go to the beginning, yeah, I'm just like, yeah,

1371
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:01,079
it was a cute idea, No into it. And this

1372
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:04,880
is the survivor. The reviver thing is worse. It's one chapter.

1373
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:07,319
You can't skip through any of it. Yes, you can't

1374
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:08,880
skip through any of it. So if we're trying to

1375
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,840
rewatch it, or again, you walk out of the room

1376
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,760
and don't press pots, something happens and you have to

1377
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,840
go take care of something quick, you come back, you

1378
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,840
have to start over at the very fucking beginning, or

1379
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,359
like manually rewind it. I don't like that.

1380
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,119
Speaker 2: All right, Oscar, are you listening.

1381
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't like that. No, I don't like that. It's

1382
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,039
like it's it's this is not a special feature. It's

1383
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:33,640
a film, like special features is one chapter? That's fine, Yeah,

1384
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:36,399
even but even then, if it's feature length, shouldn't be

1385
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:38,000
one fucking chapter. It should be split up.

1386
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: But I'll ask ask her about this because yeah, I

1387
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,239
think that the insinuation with this vague comment, you know,

1388
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:48,000
this this vague note at the beginning, is that there

1389
01:10:48,039 --> 01:10:50,399
is some weird camera framing because I think that they

1390
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,600
were going to add some kind of like special effects,

1391
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,479
or they're going to add something that they never got

1392
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,600
to later. Maybe yeah, whatever it is, I didn't notice it.

1393
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: So no, I didn't notice it either. I was yeah, no,

1394
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:03,640
I didn't notice that. It's not like water damage that

1395
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,119
you were definitely noticed. This is like and it was

1396
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:07,760
funny because I was watching for a while. I was like,

1397
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,880
where's the fucking water damage? And then it showed up

1398
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,119
and I was like, oh, okay. But then that also

1399
01:11:13,159 --> 01:11:15,520
explains a lot of like I was, what was I

1400
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,479
watching Disconnected? I was watching Disconnected and it was Ryan

1401
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,279
wasn't on It was Will doing it and they were

1402
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:24,399
just breezing through stuff. And the guy he was on

1403
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,399
with there was the guy he was on with didn't

1404
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,960
like the idea of Reviver. He was kind of like, well,

1405
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,920
I don't know, I guess. I mean they're going through

1406
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,119
the through for this like gullibility of people just buying

1407
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,239
stuff side on sea, and I'm just like if it's

1408
01:11:36,239 --> 01:11:37,640
so if and they're like, if it's so good to

1409
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,399
tell us what it is, okay, but this is good.

1410
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,479
But they can't put it out on its own because

1411
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,239
of the fucking water damage. Like you know, if they

1412
01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:48,119
put it out that you would have these these armchair

1413
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:52,159
these armchair warriors on Reddit would be bitching about it.

1414
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,159
So this is the way you're gonna get it. You're

1415
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,399
gonna have to get it this way. Just deal with it.

1416
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,279
And I you know, I know Alex is against the

1417
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:03,520
mystery of it. I love the mystery of it. Like

1418
01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:07,520
it does not bother me, bother me in the least.

1419
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,119
Speaker 2: I don't think I think that works at all, especially

1420
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:16,000
if you're a film person, Like there are people who

1421
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:18,720
like will never watch something shot on video or digitally

1422
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:19,159
or anything.

1423
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: This is all film, so you know that it's of

1424
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,560
a certain vintage. So if you like films from a

1425
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,680
certain era and you're not stuck to one genre, nine

1426
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,279
times out of ten, you're going to be into whatever

1427
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:35,279
it is. Like I like all kinds of film. If

1428
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:37,199
it's shot on film, I'm especially impressed because I like

1429
01:12:37,239 --> 01:12:41,199
the way film looks so regardless of And I think

1430
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:43,880
that even the first one when they were like there

1431
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,880
was an education of film on there which came out

1432
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,000
of nowhere, and two films with no soundtracks. I was like, well,

1433
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,640
this is great, this is I'm really into this. So yeah,

1434
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,640
I like the mystery aspect of it. But that's only

1435
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,600
I think if it was anybody else, I might be

1436
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,159
a little more suspect, just because, as I know, Vinegar

1437
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:03,079
Syndrome in their background and the kind of films that

1438
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:06,640
they started with and the films that if it's film

1439
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,560
that they're working hard to restore from like a single

1440
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,079
print or water damaged camera negative, then it's going to

1441
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:17,640
be good because it's because they have that track record

1442
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,560
of going after stuff of a certain vintage.

1443
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. So because I mean, like terror Vision, that label

1444
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:26,600
they do miss they've done mystery stuff before, and apparently.

1445
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: It's they mentioned that on that Disconnected they said they

1446
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,239
mentioned that people do that and they buy that. It's like, well, yeah,

1447
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:34,039
because you're taking a shot that it's going to be

1448
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:37,279
something you like, and if it's a label you like,

1449
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,039
if it's and you know what they you know what

1450
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:43,319
their focus is, then the chances are you're gonna like it.

1451
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:45,840
So I don't see the people complaining about it. Are

1452
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,039
the people who I think are like would be what

1453
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:50,680
would prefer it if it was like an eighty slasher

1454
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:54,199
or like a nineties Jallo or something. It's like, well,

1455
01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:56,680
that's not going to happen because you know, they're dealing

1456
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,319
with film elements from America. They're going to be American

1457
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,800
first of all, or at least in my American finance,

1458
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,000
like these two films. So yeah, if you're interested in

1459
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:09,880
like American film history, then I feel like this series

1460
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,720
is like a slam dump for you because it covers

1461
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,079
so much different, so many different possibilities.

1462
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: Did you watch Oscar's like winding through featurette?

1463
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,359
Speaker 1: I did? I did? Oscar Gotta tell you he's a

1464
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:23,680
very distinctive sense of humor.

1465
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: It's a stand up com.

1466
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,039
Speaker 1: You know what it reminds me of. It reminds me

1467
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,439
of Tim and Eric Awesome show. I feel like that's

1468
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:38,199
very much his sense of humor, and I think it's wild.

1469
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,119
Yeah so, but it also but you know, I think

1470
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,760
it makes those less like stagnant. I think there is

1471
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,119
a reputation of people working in film, like behind the

1472
01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:51,319
scenes and film restoration stuff, of being very boring, not

1473
01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:54,720
not not social creatures because they prefer to work with

1474
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,880
like film the over people. So I like that it

1475
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:04,199
gives kind of a little more accessibility to people working

1476
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:05,600
with film, because I think a lot of these people

1477
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,880
they don't really you don't know who they are. And

1478
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,239
a lot of the people that I know who work

1479
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:13,960
in archiving and stuff not the most socially savvy people.

1480
01:15:14,119 --> 01:15:15,960
I love them, but that's why. That's how I can

1481
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,319
get along with them, because I'm also not that socially savvy.

1482
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:21,640
But yeah, I'm still dying to meet Oscar. I need

1483
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,039
to get up there, do you know? Keep telling me

1484
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:24,960
I need to go up and visit. I think I'm

1485
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,800
gonna take a I need to take like a four

1486
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,840
day weekend and go up for like two days. I

1487
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,520
think I have too much to do up there. I

1488
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,119
have to go through all those papers and stuff.

1489
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, did you notice Oscar in that piece he

1490
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,760
talked about access to films? This you remember that? And

1491
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,800
I was like, I do, curing in my seat and

1492
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,159
like I do Casey. This is what Casey's been saying.

1493
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:48,720
It's like, what's the point of you know, being an

1494
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,119
archive if there's no access? And Oscar spoke directly to that.

1495
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: Yes, if you're an archivist and you are not discussing access,

1496
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,920
then you're not an archivist. Yeah, I don't know what

1497
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:04,960
you're doing. Yeah. Yeah, anybody working in archiving, in uh yeah,

1498
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,840
in anything related to film or keeping things safe and

1499
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,840
preserving things, you need to be talking about access. It's not.

1500
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:14,039
That's kind of like, you know, who doesn't talk about access?

1501
01:16:14,079 --> 01:16:17,079
The Andy fucking Warhol Foundation, all that shit is under

1502
01:16:17,119 --> 01:16:18,840
lock and key. It's like, well, why are you saving this?

1503
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,600
Andy's long dead. You won't let anybody see unless you're

1504
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,560
a researcher that goes to the museum to see it,

1505
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,760
and even then you have to schedule way ahead of time.

1506
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:29,520
It's just like, yeah, that's it's very elitist. And I

1507
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,079
think that's why this series is kind of like it's

1508
01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:35,840
sure it's charging money, but it's the only way we're

1509
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,479
gonna be able to access this shit. So and the

1510
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,239
money is going towards the archive, which I think is

1511
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:42,880
really important because you know how much shit they have

1512
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,279
that they have to take care of. Yeah, you know,

1513
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,000
it's a lot to worry about.

1514
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:49,319
Speaker 2: The Other thing I liked that Oscar was talking about,

1515
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:52,520
which was with regard to you know, as we're talking

1516
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,199
about film. You know, these are all film elements, you know.

1517
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,880
With regard to the water damage, he was like, Okay, yeah,

1518
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,479
this is bad, But if this was a digital drive,

1519
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,039
it would be gone, there'd be nothing absolutely salvage. But

1520
01:17:06,119 --> 01:17:10,439
here we salvage something because it's a physical film piece.

1521
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1522
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 2: So I thought that was a really nice point to make,

1523
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,800
which is, you know, all you digital archivists out there,

1524
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,039
we love you as well, but like it's different, you know,

1525
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:25,399
film and survive something that you know that your digital

1526
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:26,439
drive can't.

1527
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's harder to preserve. It's harder to preserve and

1528
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:36,760
restore analog tape. Yeah, like VHS beta one inch, you know,

1529
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,600
two inch, all these all these old formats. It's much

1530
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,880
harder to take care of that stuff than it is.

1531
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:45,119
You get way luckier with film in situations like this.

1532
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:47,720
If this was a video that if there's a videotape

1533
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,039
that had been like baked or or had been water damages,

1534
01:17:52,119 --> 01:17:55,840
there wouldn't necessarily hurt videotape. Well it depends, actually, but

1535
01:17:56,399 --> 01:17:59,000
that's a whole area that I kind of wish. But

1536
01:17:59,079 --> 01:18:01,880
that's not Oscars, that's not Oscar's focus. Like there's there

1537
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,640
are video. There are archivists who work in video that

1538
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,279
they would know that. That is something I might suggest

1539
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,319
to Oscar Actually, if he could get a like a

1540
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:14,439
guest archivist to maybe come in and assist with some

1541
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,199
of the video stuff they had that was shot on

1542
01:18:16,319 --> 01:18:20,479
video on some different obsolete format that would be tough

1543
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,439
to restore, that might be something interesting to see. I

1544
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,119
feel like there's a snobbishness against stuff that shot on video.

1545
01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:29,239
I used to have that snobbishness. I really don't now,

1546
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,279
you know. I will always love the look of film

1547
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:35,920
over video, obviously, but that isn't get dismissing video entirely.

1548
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,640
It's dismissing like so many different interesting filmmakers and in

1549
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,159
different ways of telling stories and doing things. So I

1550
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:46,880
actually would love a video reviver. They tell you the truth.

1551
01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:50,279
Speaker 2: Well, what's the vinegar syndrome partner that does all the video?

1552
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: Uh oh de Gausse or degasser or whatever?

1553
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 2: Can I think they've spinning?

1554
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,520
Speaker 1: Actually that's a good idea, yes, something with video. Yeah,

1555
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,720
just because that's a lot of those master tapes. Yeah,

1556
01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:08,760
depending on the age of the master tape. Good grief. Yeah,

1557
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,680
that makes me think about like, well, command Cinema. They

1558
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,119
have Dangerous stuff, which is one of the earliest shot

1559
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:18,000
on video productions. It was actually like quality, and that's

1560
01:19:18,039 --> 01:19:19,560
gonna be tough for them to put out because I

1561
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,239
don't think they do video stuff in house, and that's

1562
01:19:22,279 --> 01:19:24,520
that would look gorgeous restored from the master tape. I

1563
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,119
got to tell you, I just don't know if they're

1564
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:29,760
actually thinking about doing it. Is that Chuck Vincent, No,

1565
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,079
that's Howard Winner, Cecil Howard.

1566
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:33,279
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Yeah.

1567
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:35,279
Speaker 1: It was made around the same time as Star Angel

1568
01:19:35,319 --> 01:19:38,560
because angels in it, and it was shot on like

1569
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,600
a stage essentially. Yes, Star Angels great, Angels, very good

1570
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,560
in this. It's hurts Eric Edwards. I don't remember who

1571
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,560
else is in it. But it's like the lighting is

1572
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,800
film quality, so it looks gorgeous. It's not. It's not

1573
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,840
a poorly shot video, but it obviously needs to be

1574
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,079
restored well because of like white balance issues and potential

1575
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:59,960
like that, you know, where everything should look more crisp.

1576
01:20:00,319 --> 01:20:03,399
But obviously a reviver can't do that, but somebody should.

1577
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,079
Somebody should some.

1578
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: We're just yeah, kind of breezing through these two films.

1579
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,439
Like we said, I think everybody the consensus is Paradise

1580
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:18,039
of Terror is a minor, little uh Filipino Gothic masterpiece.

1581
01:20:18,119 --> 01:20:22,079
Speaker 1: I think I loved it well. Also, I didn't know

1582
01:20:22,079 --> 01:20:23,760
where it was going to go, right, I had no

1583
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,279
idea where it was going. I didn't know when these

1584
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:30,079
women showed up. Why are these women here? Like I I, Yeah,

1585
01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:31,600
It's just it's one of those things where it's just

1586
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,000
like and that's kind of what you want in a

1587
01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:37,680
in a film, especially in the genre at this time period,

1588
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,359
where like everybody's doing the same thing, just with different

1589
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:43,079
actors and you know, maybe a different look here and there.

1590
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:48,199
This was really unlike anything else from that period, and.

1591
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: That's surprise, like kind of dismemberment at the end, kind

1592
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:52,880
of God.

1593
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,399
Speaker 1: Right right, it's I was super and I love seeing

1594
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,880
Dracula from Blacula. Arles McCauley was was was kind of

1595
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,279
the heavy. Uh. That first appearance of that ghostly woman

1596
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,760
was really rejolting. And then to like walk Storre. It was.

1597
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:14,399
Speaker 2: It was on the artwork, isn't it? Or like standing

1598
01:21:14,399 --> 01:21:16,960
against the window? Is that the same image you're talking about?

1599
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,399
Speaker 1: Is it on the artwork? Did they change the artwork? Oh? Yes,

1600
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,279
that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.

1601
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,640
That really jolted me. And then it's yeah, it's just

1602
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,960
so they just yeah, like there was obviously money put

1603
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,560
into this production. It wasn't some cheap fly by night

1604
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:38,079
even though it was mostly shot indoors. Just made so

1605
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:41,119
much good use of that location, really really good work.

1606
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them are really good productions, like obviously

1607
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:48,399
the low budget. But it's yeah, nothing feels like slap

1608
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,439
dash about it. Their their quality, Like you said.

1609
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 1: No, which is all I mean that I need to

1610
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,800
revisit Me do I need to revisit Bloodthirst?

1611
01:21:57,359 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 2: Well maybe just wait until that's uh, I think we're

1612
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,520
gonna go is going to probably re release it, right.

1613
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean their restoration from a thirty five millimeterre it

1614
01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:07,840
was like a mint thirty five millimeter print. It looked gorgeous. Anyway,

1615
01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:11,239
that's the thing. That's what that's when the suggestion that

1616
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:14,119
they're going to reissue Blood Thro's from the original camera negative.

1617
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,000
I don't see the point unless unless it was part

1618
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,399
of a package with something. I don't think that movie

1619
01:22:20,399 --> 01:22:21,479
on its own has legs.

1620
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,359
Speaker 2: Package it with the reels of Lisa Luisa, we can see.

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01:22:25,279 --> 01:22:30,319
Speaker 1: Again for what for what audience for? Yeah? For what? Yeah?

1622
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:30,840
For who?

1623
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:34,239
Speaker 2: For the completion to want all these four Journey productions,

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01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,520
you know, well.

1625
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hope that everyone who bought the

1626
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,319
Reviver would buy that release. Yeah, they might not. And

1627
01:22:41,399 --> 01:22:44,680
also that's a very They only had a certain amount

1628
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,920
of these, so that's not enough. That's not enough people

1629
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,680
to justify the Blue Bluer Blu Ray license paying the Yeah,

1630
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,119
like there's costs involved with every release. I just don't

1631
01:22:54,119 --> 01:22:58,199
see them releasing reissuing blood thirst Maybe they are, but

1632
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,279
that everyone knows that movie is terrible, So I think

1633
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,319
trying to upgrade to that, even if it's from an

1634
01:23:03,319 --> 01:23:06,680
original camera negative. I don't know. I don't know. I

1635
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,479
have the DVD with Thirsty Dead. That's perfectly fine.

1636
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on that drive I.

1637
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: Love Thirsty Dead though, I love Thirsty Dead. Actually, you

1638
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,119
know what, maybe that's how you do it. Maybe maybe

1639
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,079
upgrade it, or if you're gonna upgrade, well there's a

1640
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:22,840
lot of those drive in that should be upgraded. Dungeons

1641
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,199
of Harrow would be good to have on Blu Ray. Yeah,

1642
01:23:26,319 --> 01:23:28,560
that's I don't know. Maybe maybe there'd be like a

1643
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,359
little package I don't know. By itself, I don't see

1644
01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:31,760
it working.

1645
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why they didn't get the Lisa Luisa

1646
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,159
on this release. Maybe they just didn't get Glad.

1647
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Because it looks great in the clips.

1648
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,439
I think it's possible that it's not as much of

1649
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,319
a horror movie as these two. So it would not fit.

1650
01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, like in.

1651
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: Terms of theme, it wouldn't. It wouldn't fit.

1652
01:23:52,119 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that might be right, But.

1653
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, well I don't remember what Oscar

1654
01:23:57,359 --> 01:23:59,119
told me. Well, whatever he told me, I couldn't share

1655
01:23:59,119 --> 01:23:59,760
it here anyway.

1656
01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: So, oh, before we go, what the heck is that

1657
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,239
little toy on the desk, that little like paint?

1658
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:09,239
Speaker 1: I love that?

1659
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,079
Speaker 2: Why can't I buy that right now? On Vinegars?

1660
01:24:13,319 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: I know it reminds me of that. Oh what were

1661
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,279
the two movies that we watched with the Donkey that

1662
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:24,039
I had a cigarette come out of its ass?

1663
01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: Well it's Nymphs Anonymous.

1664
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:30,239
Speaker 1: Yes one and she mob Yes, that's right. Yes, So

1665
01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:31,760
it is one of those things that I would like

1666
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,560
to have on my desk. And I love the way

1667
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,880
it was shot. It was shot like it was a

1668
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,439
major part of the scene just like in the background. Yeah,

1669
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,840
before gry out, it was like shot beautifully lit. I

1670
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,399
was like, okay, right, I did like that little twist

1671
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,840
also where like the wife died, It's like what I

1672
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,880
thought she was going to be brought back and she.

1673
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,039
Speaker 2: Wasn't, right.

1674
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was going to beat situation, was

1675
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,560
going to say you know what, or like Mac and

1676
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,680
Me where that's what happened in Acting Me where the

1677
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,680
kid gets shot and then Mac brings the kid back

1678
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,479
to life. I was like, oh, they're they're this invader

1679
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,159
is going to bring her back to life, didn't.

1680
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: Bring I totally thought that's where it was going as well.

1681
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's bad anyway, I don't know who

1682
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,479
that actress was. She was not good. She's not good.

1683
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Revivor too in the books. Yeah,

1684
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,239
I kind of wanted to get this out there because

1685
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,600
you know, look, they're Oscars doing great work. We are

1686
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,560
supportive of the film archive over there, and obviously like, yeah,

1687
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,319
we just know how much of a labor of love

1688
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:36,600
this is for for the whole team over there, and

1689
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,760
I wanted to give it some time, but you know,

1690
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,720
because we probably won't get to it for a little uh,

1691
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,880
you know, until next episode or so, which might be

1692
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:44,760
a little ways way.

1693
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Next week, next weekend. What are you talking about? Very

1694
01:25:55,039 --> 01:25:57,920
someone else? Someone else complaining kind of like they sold

1695
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,000
out and then then oh, we found some extra copies

1696
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:02,319
and they were like, of course they found extra copies.

1697
01:26:02,319 --> 01:26:05,319
What a? What a? What a an underhanded move trying

1698
01:26:05,359 --> 01:26:07,319
to get more copies sold. I'm just like, shut the

1699
01:26:07,319 --> 01:26:10,199
puck up and go buy it, Like what what what is?

1700
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,720
Shut up? Let's just go buy it. Stop complaining, go

1701
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,119
buy it.

1702
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:16,159
Speaker 2: So well, Remind me how are they doing this reveal here,

1703
01:26:16,199 --> 01:26:18,960
because I think after a certain point, you know, whoever

1704
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:24,760
is running the Reviver, uh, once it sells out Socials,

1705
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,319
then they'll okay, once it sells out, then they'll talk

1706
01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:28,640
about what the films are.

1707
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,199
Speaker 1: Yes, hasn't sold out yet because they found those extra extra.

1708
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 2: Slips, and ninety six are still in stock as I'm

1709
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:36,279
looking right now.

1710
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: Get you're shut together, people, This is really this is

1711
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,119
really good. This is a really good one. It's a

1712
01:26:41,119 --> 01:26:43,800
major upgrade in terms of quality of the films and

1713
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,199
the restoration work. I think because they're dealing with the

1714
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:52,199
original camera negatives, not these eight millimeters sixteen limited things

1715
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:54,359
and a thirty five print from the first one. Like

1716
01:26:54,399 --> 01:26:56,720
they they got really lucky with this one. They got

1717
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,479
you know, these camera negatives.

1718
01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:11,039
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