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<v Speaker 1>twenty first Century Wire twenty one Wire SoundCloud. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>going to transition in a minute to our next guest,

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<v Speaker 1>who is no stranger to this show or twenty first

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<v Speaker 1>Century Wire. But before we do that, before we introduce

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<v Speaker 1>our guest, Jay Dyer, I just wanted to get a

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<v Speaker 1>few housekeeping items together with regards to the website and

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the next coming months, So we are

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<v Speaker 1>launching a membership drive for members subscriptions from May first.

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<v Speaker 1>We just want to announce that now. The details are

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<v Speaker 1>Very exciting, a lot of work though, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>to Beirut, you'll already know about this announcement and you

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first century wire dot com. So that's something to

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to. Now, there's a new shout poll up

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<v Speaker 1>and if you go to twenty first Central wy dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>show page and basically, this is our shout poll this

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<v Speaker 1>week is the United States? Does it have a democracy

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<v Speaker 1>or an autocracy? And that's the poll. We've already got

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<v Speaker 1>a few voters already. You can comment in the poll.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a unique technology we developed with a tech

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<v Speaker 1>startup called square offs and it's an ultimate engagement and

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<v Speaker 1>debate and voting all in one widget. So go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and have your shout. Is the US a democracy or

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<v Speaker 1>an autocracy? And don't want to get into any arguments

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody who will say, well, no, it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an oligarchy, not in autocracy. Who cares? My point? Is

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<v Speaker 1>not a democracy. So that's the main point of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to get some lively debates going in there. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next guest, Uh. He is the author of the

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<v Speaker 1>much anticipated upcoming uh probably eventually will be in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind anyway, a bestseller s so Teric Hollywood from trendon

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<v Speaker 1>Day Publishing, and he's also uh the editor and founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Jay's Analysis uh dot com. There's a link to

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show page and UH, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking up at the stories at Jay's Analysis right

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<v Speaker 1>now and it's just fascinating. Uh. We've also got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk about Prince's death this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll leave that off the uh So we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Prince and we're not going to play

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<v Speaker 1>Dove's cry uh in the background like every single mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media outlet is doing. I don't know, have I got

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<v Speaker 1>have I got that on the soundboard? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Badger. Can you hear Prince in the background there?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if Badger's listening or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But impersonation for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh please don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So I had about ten print songs. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to sing the full full song here for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I'm just gonna cut that chase. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to But anyway, Jay Dyer, thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us this week. I really appreciate it. I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been uber busy. Awesome articles from from Yours and Soul

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<v Speaker 1>of the East on the Bolshevik one is really fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>up at jasonalysis dot com. But you know, really good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>deep deep, deep thinking, uh for the everyday man. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what jason Analysis provides, and so in short supply these days.

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<v Speaker 1>But but so, how how's how's the book coming along.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get that out the way first.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you must be the pre orders I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>As I understand that he's gotten quite a few. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the book is finished. I finished it last week and

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty hllacious going back and putting in the footnotes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's going to be a great tool

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<v Speaker 2>for giving to family members that you want to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wake them up right to the way the world

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<v Speaker 2>really works is everybody likes movies. Not everybody's into your

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<v Speaker 2>geopolitical peculiarities, but everybody likes movies. So give them my book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it'll help to you know, people will

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<v Speaker 2>see movies in a new way. And I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with four hundred and four footnotes. So many of those,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, are twenty first century wire articles, so

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be happy to know that you're referenced in their

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick as well as Sean Helton and the good Fellows

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<v Speaker 2>over at Sold the East excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, Sean is investigating Prince's untimely death,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a big warning for if there's any Shenanigans

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<v Speaker 1>He's already he's already, he's already guys his request in

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<v Speaker 1>for the toxicology reports. So it looks like another Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson circus. And we're not talking about Prince Jay today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not why we're here. The theme of the

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<v Speaker 1>show Jay is glass temples, and it's a little bit abstract.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we had a discussion the last hour

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<v Speaker 1>stark experiences while I was over in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>regarding archaeology, regarding heritage, regarding modernism, and I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>real clash of civilizations. Jay. It's it's not the West

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<v Speaker 1>versus the East, or the White Man versus the Arab

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<v Speaker 1>To me, the real class of civilizations is much deeper,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's much more profound than the geopolitical definitions. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes deep in to the heart of what you

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<v Speaker 1>might call modernism and traditionalism. I think it's in this direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring you on to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of psychology as well behind here.

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<v Speaker 1>We can psychologically profile different epochs, different times, different eras.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's carried on, it's carried over and taken

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<v Speaker 1>different form from the past great civilizations to and fallen

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<v Speaker 1>civilizations to today, which one day. You know, we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty right now, but there are many civilizations right now

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<v Speaker 1>be fallen civilizations one day. And so that is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really concerned about this because my concern, Jay, isn't it

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<v Speaker 1>It might be a frivolous concern. I think there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to learn from past civilizations. I still believe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of knowledge lost, a lot of wisdom,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a place for it in our

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<v Speaker 1>Modernists are like, no, just pave it over, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about technology and transhumanism and big glass temples basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you stand on this?

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<v Speaker 2>Initially, Well, I would start out by saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we need to ever pause it any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a false dialectic between the idea of will you

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<v Speaker 2>either choose modernism or you're some sort of blood heed

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<v Speaker 2>obscurantists who's left in the past or left worshiping the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Tradition as I see it, as I understand it is

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<v Speaker 2>always a kind of dynamic, living process. It's never some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stultified museum piece. It's always something that's in process.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can never be completely a historical you can

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<v Speaker 2>never completely get away from it any kind of roots

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<v Speaker 2>or lineage by the simple fact that all of us

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<v Speaker 2>come from some family and some parents. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about the family, if we were fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not raised by a test raising a test

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<v Speaker 2>tube or something like that where we're going, then we

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<v Speaker 2>know that we were given some kind of culture, some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tradition. Now that doesn't mean that it's necessarily correct,

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<v Speaker 2>or that it didn't have flaws, or that things weren't wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps about the tradition that we were given as a

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<v Speaker 2>child and so forth, or the culture of the nation

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<v Speaker 2>that we grew up in. But I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>false ideology that is that undergirds modernity put in its

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<v Speaker 2>successors and postmodernity, and what ultimately I think leads to nihilism.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the idea that you can some now be completely

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of I think what you're getting at philosophically

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<v Speaker 2>is this notion of radical individualism, which is the ideology

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<v Speaker 2>that's been foisted upon I think the Western world. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much the Western ideology, especially if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>say the Rand Corporation and their whole as one of

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<v Speaker 2>the premiere think tanks of the last century. Their whole

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<v Speaker 2>ideology is called rational choice theory. Now what is this, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the idea that the way to manipulate individuals

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<v Speaker 2>so when we look at something like the Rand Corporation,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is a pre eminent example, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is what crafted the Cold War. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>crafted the idea of mutually sure destruction, the nuke threat.

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<v Speaker 2>It craft did the idea of the commies are going

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<v Speaker 2>sold us on things like Obamacare ultimately, and on top

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<v Speaker 2>of that, it also marketed the first and second Operation

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<v Speaker 2>Operation does at Storm, in Operation Iraqi Freedom. These are

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<v Speaker 2>actually creations of the Rand Corporation. And what is the

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<v Speaker 2>how did they do all this well? Because they have

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<v Speaker 2>this idea that what we need to do is to

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<v Speaker 2>sell everybody on the idea that their own personal, hedonistic

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<v Speaker 2>desires are the only way that they can be quote free.

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<v Speaker 2>And they say this explicitly in numerous corporation publications. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would see that as a main ideological

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<v Speaker 2>force in what crafted the modern American West as we

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<v Speaker 2>know it. And I would say that obviously America and

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<v Speaker 2>the ideology of America is what pretty much dominates the

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<v Speaker 2>what we might call the atlantisys power block right, which

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<v Speaker 2>would be US, UK, Israel, France and so forth. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that whole ethos that then seeks to force the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world into that ideology of necessity. It

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<v Speaker 2>has to destroy any existing perhaps firewalls we might call them,

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<v Speaker 2>and that would be anything from history, culture, tradition, family, nation, state,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. All those things have to go

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<v Speaker 2>because there seem to be aspects of the old way

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<v Speaker 2>of doing things and everything is now supposed to transition

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<v Speaker 2>into a completely New World, and it's really the as

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<v Speaker 2>you pointed out in your excellent article, the smart power

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<v Speaker 2>as they deal with safe foreign policy or think tanks

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<v Speaker 2>crisis groups. You know, there's myriad of these of these institutions,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they do is essentially churn out constant white

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<v Speaker 2>papers to reformulate and reorganize entire regions. And so you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the Middle East, Well, we only need think of

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<v Speaker 2>the Odinya non Plan, which was the Israeli plan from

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<v Speaker 2>out of that presently, and that would include these situations

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<v Speaker 2>in Libya in now Syria. And so this is how

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<v Speaker 2>we can fit the events in our day into this

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<v Speaker 2>an article I did called Isis Feminists and Thugs dupes

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<v Speaker 2>of the foundations and think tanks, and so what do

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<v Speaker 2>you see is across all of these movements, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be Air of Spring or whether it be the promotion

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<v Speaker 2>of feminism and women's rights in other countries by the

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<v Speaker 2>theme of quote democracy, humanitarianism, individual liberty, and freedom from

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<v Speaker 2>all constraints supposedly. But what those things actually are is

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<v Speaker 2>as you called them accurately, they're called soft power. They're

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<v Speaker 2>soft power techniques of swaying mass perception and opinion to

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<v Speaker 2>And that's I think the best way to sum it

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<v Speaker 2>up is that it's really about duping peopleeople into buying

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<v Speaker 1>So on one hand, they're building up this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>identity politic or the sort of totems of identity politics

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<v Speaker 1>like you animated in your article isis feminists and thugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the other hand, they're tearing down culture,

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<v Speaker 1>identity in the same place at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is to me the most extraordinary thing that it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it's kind of you can see it when

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<v Speaker 1>you go there, you can see it actually happening in

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you obliterate someone's cultural identity, then you really

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<v Speaker 1>obliterate there is your cultural identity. And here's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your cultural identity your true political identity in many ways?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you smash that, if you bliterate it, then

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And that is you find that specifically spoken of

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<v Speaker 2>in the white papers. So I think of Alex Eveya's

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<v Speaker 2>book Soldiers of Reason about the Rank corporation, and he

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I should add, sometimes radical say nationalism or radical

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<v Speaker 2>left or radical right could be useful to global strategists

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<v Speaker 2>and think tanks and so forth, So it's not always

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<v Speaker 2>an either or. Sometimes those things could be useful for

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<v Speaker 2>manipulation as well, like as you said, identity politics. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if you look at the big, big scale,

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<v Speaker 2>long term plans, it's ultimately about getting rid of all

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<v Speaker 2>of those things. And that's why the Rank corporation, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>deals with big scale philosophies, big scale ideologies, right, rational

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<v Speaker 2>choice theory being how can we sell everybody on the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that your individual hedonistic desires are the best way

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<v Speaker 2>for you to be happy and free? And so rational

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<v Speaker 2>choice theory dictates that whatever means, there might be a

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<v Speaker 2>period where you want to promote radical identity politics and nationalism,

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<v Speaker 2>but then down the road that transitions into something else. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Alvin Toffler talks about this in Third Wave,

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<v Speaker 2>where he says that we might need to promote things

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<v Speaker 2>like veganism. We might need to promote certain things that

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<v Speaker 2>can steer a movement of philosophy and ideology and identity

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<v Speaker 2>in a certain direction for a time period in order

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<v Speaker 2>to get to that final goal. And I think, I

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<v Speaker 2>know I brought it up many times, but I bring

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<v Speaker 2>it up because of such a great example. This is

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<v Speaker 2>really what Aldo Sarcley says in the introduction of Brave

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<v Speaker 2>New World, where he says, look, there was a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of revolutions right in the revolution, Scientific Revolution, French Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to I'm telling you how all of those

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get a little esoteric here, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>also look at Arthur Kessler who calls it alchemy. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when he talks about the ghost in the machine,

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<v Speaker 2>which is his naturalistic Darwinian materialistic statement about how the

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<v Speaker 2>mind of man's the mind of man, consciousness and free will,

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<v Speaker 2>along with Bertrand Russell saying this need to be stamped out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how we create a more controlled automaton cubicle

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<v Speaker 2>being right, much much like the factory line process of

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<v Speaker 2>streamlined products, so that the man himself becomes a factory

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<v Speaker 2>streamline monoculture product. Right. And this is obviously you can

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<v Speaker 2>see quite advantageous to the international mega corporations and conglomerates

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<v Speaker 2>that pretty much run run the globe. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about. Yeah, you might have a time where

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<v Speaker 2>people promote you an ideology that appeals to your ego. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a feminist, I'm strong, and i want to be

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<v Speaker 2>free from these two millennia of patriarchal tyranny. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>free because I've adopted abortion, vaccines and micro loans that

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<v Speaker 2>are not available to males.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all strategies to break up existing things. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, how is it alchemy, Well, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the alchemical dictum of solving at coagula, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that you dissolve a thing and then you remake

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<v Speaker 2>the thing into something new. And that is the essence

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<v Speaker 2>of the alchemical process. And even though the globalists the

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<v Speaker 2>elites think tanks types may not as a whole be

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<v Speaker 2>occultists or esotericist or whatever I'm sure some of them are,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really matter because the essential game plan strategy

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<v Speaker 2>is that it is you break a thing down before

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<v Speaker 2>you build it back up, and you build it back

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<v Speaker 2>up into what you want it to be. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the purpose of all these thing tanks and in

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Alvin Toffler and the author of Future Shock,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about veganism being a sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>what you said there is this is climate change, the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing in the same used can that be used

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<v Speaker 1>to created and this climate change movement and be used

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way as that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, you go back to the seventies the Club

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<v Speaker 2>of Rome produced the boat Limits to Growth, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it republished that in the nineties and called it the

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<v Speaker 2>First Global Revolution. And you look at the First Global Revolution,

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<v Speaker 2>it discusses the fact that we need to create not

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<v Speaker 2>just some localized revolutions, some French revolutions American we need

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<v Speaker 2>a new revolution that's based on something that we can

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<v Speaker 2>get everybody behind. And what's the one common factor that

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<v Speaker 2>we all share it? Well, it's the environment. Everybody's in

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<v Speaker 2>some way an aspect of the biosphere. So if we

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<v Speaker 2>individual best interest to be a part of this whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, movement, then we can steer the globe into

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<v Speaker 2>things like Agenda twenty one and United Nations UNESCO plans

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<v Speaker 2>and gentrification zoning laws which are ultimately about creating smart

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<v Speaker 2>cities and target cities and so forth, all these different

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<v Speaker 2>communal reorganization methods for large scale social engineering. So all

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<v Speaker 2>of this is outlined in that very book, First Global Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find it's online, easy PDF download, and it

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<v Speaker 2>discusses the fact that open I'm not making this up.

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that man himself is the problem. Right, So when

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about CO two's being a problem carbon, that's

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<v Speaker 1>It's the all pervasive existential threat. In other words, it

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, the commedi threat's gone. And now I guess that,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that was, as we said, trans created

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<v Speaker 2>by the Rank Corporation. That Ran Corporation also crafted and marketed,

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<v Speaker 2>pr sold the war on Terror, all right. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>then of course Desert Storm was the first fully televised

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<v Speaker 1>Desert Shield that then Desert Storm and then Desert Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Their PubL their reality shows twenty four to seven run,

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<v Speaker 2>So you participate in this psychodrama, right, And so that

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<v Speaker 2>was all Rank corporation strategies sold and exactly you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that all tie into Well, Rank Corporation works

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<v Speaker 2>on the same strategies of the United Nations plans for

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<v Speaker 2>the environment. Rank Corporation crafts documents for how to go green.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how companies can implement green strategies and green

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare and green thist all of that is a marketing tool.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at the origins of the so

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<v Speaker 2>sincere environmentalists, you know, back in the day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I look at earth Day. I mean, the founder

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<v Speaker 2>The very fact that the Club of Rome's First Global

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<v Speaker 2>beings that they're the problem and that we need to then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, cut down on population. You need to go

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What we see in Jon Erowski's Holy Mountain, you actually

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<v Speaker 2>see that where they sell to the elite. The idea

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<v Speaker 2>of moving everybody into urban areas and putting them literally

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<v Speaker 2>in coffins. That was predicted in the Joan Rowski's Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain film. That's what we're seeing implemented. That's what these

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<v Speaker 2>zoning laws gentrification. That's about a longer strategy of getting

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<v Speaker 2>everybody into urban areas to live inside agenda twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>cubicle coffin type environment that can all be completely controlled.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this sounds crazy. Target the corporation. They're making

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<v Speaker 2>target cities where you're actually going to I was joking

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<v Speaker 2>about that in talks and articles a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea that was real. Right, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>they want to move everybody. And so when you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>on the Middle East and these different regions, the so

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<v Speaker 2>called democracy that the US is going to bring with

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is this is a good segue to

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<v Speaker 1>the big con. This is what I So we've outlined

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<v Speaker 1>the introduction now for the big con. Okay, the big

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<v Speaker 1>con job is exactly as you just said, Jay, This

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<v Speaker 1>is basically setting up a monopolistic environment, a completely crony capitalistic,

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<v Speaker 1>monopolistic environment, where a selected few who consider themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>This is basically what it is. It's it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>the con is to dupe society with it. Call it

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<v Speaker 1>social justice, call it climate justice. Call it gender justice,

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<v Speaker 1>call it all these things, call it modern justice. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's to dupe you into a new environment that

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<v Speaker 1>of real choice and real unique experiences than before. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a con. It's a huge con.

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<v Speaker 2>It's orwelly and it's everything that's in Orwell it's it's

420
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the whole idea of the party, the single party, bringing

421
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>freedom to everyone. And that's why you only have victory cigarettes,

422
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 2>victory gin, everything is victory products. Right, it's the exact

423
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>same thing. It's all annoyed. I mean, I mean, I

424
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>know we've heard about Orwell a million times, but that's

425
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>exactly what you're saying. In the world, right, everything is

426
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a mono state. It's it's a monoculture. You have,

427
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 2>you have the you've been told since youth that you

428
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<v Speaker 2>were free, and you believe that you're free, even though

429
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 2>everything in your daily experience contradicts that. You choose to

430
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>believe it. And that's the great con, right, It's the

431
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>double thing that is the great con believing what is

432
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 2>completely contradictory to your your everyday experience. So yeah, I mean,

433
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 2>what one only need look at the fact that if

434
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<v Speaker 2>you can see where the place is, where America has gone,

435
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 2>or the foreign policy ventures in the West and so forth,

436
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>where are ethos is established, what comes with that, Well,

437
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>what comes with that is the toxic garbage culture of America.

438
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>You get all of that, all of that exported, you

439
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>get the vaccines, you get the medical establishment there the

440
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So what I think is ultimately scammed to this Rockefeller

441
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>medical establishment is expanded coke and pepsi right, all of

442
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that is brought to the rest of the world under

443
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>the guise of humanitarian democracy and freedom. And that usually

444
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>takes you know, regime change, color revolution, toppling of someone

445
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>deemed undesirable, or running on some older program that the

446
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>globalists instituted. Uh yeah, so it's just phase. Isn't a

447
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>business plan, I guess is the best way to look

448
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>at it.

449
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So so what I see what you know? And I

450
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>saw this. I see this in the Middle East especially,

451
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I see time and time again, Jay, I see modernism

452
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 1>is used by the the Tyrell corporations of the world,

453
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 1>or the the you know, the the ruling oligarchy in

454
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>some cases, the monarchs. It's used by these people, these individuals,

455
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 1>these monopolists, I'll call them. And at the same time,

456
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and then with their other hand, they're using the primitive

457
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 1>traditional uber traditionalists like the Wahabi hobbyists. And you know

458
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what we see in Isis and al Qaeda and Salafis terrorists.

459
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>They they're so they're they're building this, They're they're thrusting

460
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 1>modernism as their Islamic utopia on one hand, on the

461
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 1>on on the backhand, they're using the primitive clerics to

462
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>browbeat everybody into shape, basically, and I see the same

463
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>in Israel. They're erasing history of Palestinian history to build

464
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 1>these modern which looks like California, Orange County suburbs out

465
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and pushing out into other countries, basically guarded by the army,

466
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 1>changing the names of all the streets, changing the removing

467
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>archaeological finds, hiding them or destroying them. And and they're

468
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 1>using the ultra orthodox Jewish settlers, they're pushing them out.

469
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>They're all uber traditionalists. So they're they're playing both sides.

470
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I see this in Saudi or Israel. Absolutely,

471
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>they're playing both sides. They're using they're they're they're they're

472
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<v Speaker 1>leveraging these two forces. If you will, and I think

473
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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's pretty obvious. You know. What the agenda

474
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<v Speaker 1>then is to basically obliterate what is the real history

475
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<v Speaker 1>what ken Stone in the last segment called the collective

476
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>human cultural inheritance, where we could say collective human cultural experience.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, Walmart obliterates culture and history, right, So

478
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 2>when a Walmart comes into a small town, it puts

479
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<v Speaker 2>everything else out of business because it's the it's pretty

480
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<v Speaker 2>much the company town model, right, everybody's going to so

481
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>eventually we just move into the Walmart. But yeah, so

482
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.599
<v Speaker 2>think about the world as a big Walmart and think

483
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 2>about you know how it works in a big corporation

484
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 2>like that. You have a restructuring and reformatting of some

485
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 2>section of the store. Oh, this was the autoparts section.

486
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Now we've got whole new displays. We need to change

487
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>that out now, right, so that the Middle East might

488
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<v Speaker 2>be like that, right, Like it's a certain way for

489
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<v Speaker 2>a while, like the CIA supporting Arab nationalism in the forties,

490
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and then it transitions into oh, better game plan here.

491
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<v Speaker 2>We want to smash this up through the support of

492
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the Jahad, which is what followed right after the Arab

493
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 2>nationalist period. The CIA then shifted over to supporting the

494
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Jahad and all the different radical Islm's factions that you're

495
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>speaking about, and that's a great tool for smashing things up.

496
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>So it it reminds me of Maoism, Right. So if

497
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.359
<v Speaker 2>you think about Mao's cultural revolution and how that marshaled

498
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the energy and enthusiasm of idealistic youth, well, idealistic youth

499
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>are idiots, They're not there. It's been very much the

500
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>same with the idealistic zeal of the puritanical Islamic sex

501
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about. You can marshal that power and

502
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>energy into recrafting a certain region a certain way, depending

503
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>on what your needs are. I make this point many

504
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>times too. It's just like deregulation and privatization versus regulation

505
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and government authority. Right, So people fall on either side

506
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of this dialectic, when in actual fact, either of those

507
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 2>strategies can be used at different time periods. Right. So,

508
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>if you're retraging Hope, he says that FDR was working

509
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 2>at the behest of the bankers. So all of these

510
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 2>reforms that FDR did to save everybody from the depression

511
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 2>actually caused another depression in nineteen thirty seven because he

512
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>was printing money at the behest of the bankers. So

513
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>you can't just pay for these things out of nowhere,

514
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 2>that it's all foisted upon the population through inflation and

515
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>putting everybody into debt to the bankers to fix the

516
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>problem that the banker's cause, namely depression. Right, So the

517
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 2>collectivization and socialization in that case was a solution from

518
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the bankers to the banker's problem of the depression. And

519
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>it's the same. So you might think, oh, we'll see

520
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the collectivization, oh soo, then privatization is the solution. Well

521
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 2>then you look at Greece, in these different countries or

522
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>John Perkins's books Economic hit Man. That's where you can

523
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 2>have cases where deregulation and privatization is ripping everybody off.

524
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a strategy that can use either one

525
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 2>depending on what the particular situation is. And it's exact

526
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>same with the the radical sex that you're talking about.

527
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>You can use those to smash an existing culture that

528
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 2>might be a firewall to global of strategies or corporate

529
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>corporate strategies, or you can then turn around and promote

530
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>a far quote leftist quote progressive humanitarian agenda in a region. Right,

531
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<v Speaker 2>So it's you're absolutely right, it's it's just it's the

532
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>same as big old companies funding the green agenda.

533
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Mm.

534
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's control both sides, right.

535
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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's kind of extraordinary because if you look

536
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 1>at I looked at the war and limpin On, I'm

537
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>looking at the war in Syria, and what happened after

538
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the Long War in Lebanon was basically big golf money

539
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>came in, big money and American money to basically build

540
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>these giant skyscrapers half of them are empty, by the way,

541
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and destroying everything that was underneath it, which is basically

542
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 1>five or six major civilizations and epochs, just completely obliterating it,

543
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>walling it off, taking a jackhammer to it, and then

544
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 1>building this you know, glass temple of luxury living. And

545
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 1>you have European architects in their celebrity architects. We talked

546
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>about this on previous shows. So in Syria we have

547
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>whole cities destroyed and they are literally at the gates

548
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>baying for the opportunity to come in and do the

549
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>same in many of these places, and I think it's

550
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.639
<v Speaker 1>a strange mix. Jay is what I'm saying. It's there's

551
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 1>a short term profit motive to this because you know,

552
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to build and to occupy land, to own land, to

553
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 1>build on it is an expression of power. It projects power,

554
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and then then there's there's benefits in terms of taking

555
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>money for that as well in that process, so order

556
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 1>out of chaos essentially. But this is where it gets strange.

557
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>After all the bombing, after all the destroying, after building

558
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>these sort of soulless modern temples which are really Western inspired,

559
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>completely bland, you know, monolithic creations everywhere you look at Dubai.

560
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's and you have this, there's this kind

561
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>of monarchical, tribalistic obsession, if you will, to this building,

562
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>this clean, everything, clean and new. My question to you

563
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is where does this urge come from? Because it is

564
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a fetish in a way. So this

565
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of fetish comes in after you deal with the

566
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>money and the power. But there's more to it than that,

567
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I'm trying to figure it out because

568
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a religion in terms of those elites there.

569
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>You're saying the fetish in terms of wrecking and then

570
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>erecting the monuments to modernity.

571
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, exactly.

572
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 2>It is a fetish because I think, in my view,

573
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>ultimately humans are in some form or fashion going to

574
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>be religious, and even if they're a religious there's still

575
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 2>going to be in some way operating on the belief

576
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and some sort of Even if you believe that you're

577
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you're your own God, you believe in some higher ideal

578
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or notion or principle, it's I think it's impossible to

579
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>not function in that way. So it's going to be

580
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.679
<v Speaker 2>you're operating on some program or some belief system. And

581
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<v Speaker 2>I think that what you see with the erection of

582
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>these monuments, and you're absolutely right to point out that

583
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason for you know, if you look at

584
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the art and I'm not getting it to some goofy

585
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy thing, but if you think about the architecture of Washington,

586
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<v Speaker 2>d C. It's all laid out to present a certain

587
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>belief system, a certain meaning concerning the ideas of America.

588
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't matter whether you think that's good or bad.

589
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 2>That's what the architecture of DC is laid out to

590
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>demonstrate to show, and architecture has always been this way.

591
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>It encapsulates the spirit of a people the ideals of

592
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 2>a people and so forth, and so to blast those

593
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>things away and then erect anew is precisely you said,

594
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a projection of power. And I think that ultimately the

595
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>spirit behind it is the spirit that's anti human. And

596
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 2>that's why the modernist architecture is cold, angular box like

597
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the slab from two thousand and one,

598
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>from beyond right, it's the monolith. It's supposed to demonstrate

599
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that the new era, the new order, the new aon whatever.

600
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.599
<v Speaker 2>It is not going to be about man. It's going

601
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 2>to be about going beyond man. Post That's the whole

602
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 2>point of it. Is to be posthuman. And being posthuman

603
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>means first and foremost, the erasing of any kind of groupings,

604
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>collective groupings existing as a part of a gender, a tribe,

605
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a culture, whatever, religion. Throw all that away, and we

606
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 2>are going to enter into the new. It's I call

607
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>it the fetish of the new, which it's not really

608
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>possible to be completely new. But that is the false gospel,

609
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>so to speak, right, that the system is going to

610
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>give you something completely new, a utopia. You know, all

611
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>all of these platitudes that are poured forth, which ultimately

612
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>as we see, and then, as many of them admit

613
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 2>in their books, version else says ha ha ha. Ultimately,

614
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stamp out your freedom, that's the I

615
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>want to stamp out your consciousness, which, by the way,

616
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 2>how are you going to stamp out consciousness if humans

617
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have consciousness? Right? I thought we were just matter, right,

618
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>we're just animals yet, but yet they want to stamp

619
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 2>out the human spirit, free will, and consciousness, which means

620
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that those things are real.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that back to back to brave New World.

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<v Speaker 1>So the the elite of the elite who are foisting this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, soulless, materialistic uh Dawkins ideology on the masses,

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<v Speaker 1>they themselves don't even believe that. I don't think so, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see that in many of their people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the bloods and the brains. So you have the blue bloods,

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<v Speaker 2>the old money families and so forth and so forth,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have the brains, right, the Kissingers, the Brazenskis

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth, and the birch and Russells. And they'll

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<v Speaker 2>speak that way quite quite often. They'll say, you get

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<v Speaker 2>the the impression that they don't really believe a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what they put out to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Public, and so so this here, let's make a comparison here.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have the the crystal cities of Dubai built

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<v Speaker 1>with oil money by those monarchs, and and in Geda

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<v Speaker 1>and Katar and Doha as well, and these these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of monuments there these this hypochondriatic sort of society of

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<v Speaker 1>everything's hermetically sealed and clean. Then we have on this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the extreme left wing in America. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this film Zeitgeist, at the at the end, it

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<v Speaker 1>talks about this left wing utopia. Uh, this this I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the Venus Project, I think it was called,

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<v Speaker 1>and where there's no money and everything's perfect and everything's

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<v Speaker 1>clean and no one gets sick and et cetera. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>those are those are mirror images. You know, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>difference that you know, So in the West and in

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<v Speaker 1>the East, we still have these almost mirrored cults, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, and they're identical. I can hardly take that apart.

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<v Speaker 1>When I look at some of the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>building promotional development videos from the GCC, and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of Zeitgeist, I see, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the words might be slightly different, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's right. Yeah, the zeitgeist socialist un model,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is associated with the UN through Jaques Fresco.

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<v Speaker 2>That is all one side of the dialectic where you

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<v Speaker 2>might tie that into communism in the previous decades. And

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side you have the Reagan Thatcher right

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<v Speaker 2>wing so called pseudo conservative American neo conservative, free markets, liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. That's the other side of the dialect

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<v Speaker 2>and I know, you know they're dialectic. One one good

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<v Speaker 2>funny clue to this is that in Brave New World

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, the characters aren't after Marx and Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the year of our Ford, not the year of

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<v Speaker 2>our Lord. One of the central characters is Bernard Marx,

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<v Speaker 2>and his point is that it's two rows that lead

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<v Speaker 2>to the same destination, right, because what are they both about. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both about centralization of wealth, centralization of power, and

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<v Speaker 2>the destruction of previous existing cultures. Right. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>why even there was even a big meeting between the

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<v Speaker 2>capitalist West and the so called communist East many times

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<v Speaker 2>over throughout the period of the Cold War. One of

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<v Speaker 2>those was in I think nineteen eighty eight, at Malta

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<v Speaker 2>where Bush and Gorbachev met. And isn't it interesting too

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<v Speaker 2>that's speaking of to tie all this in when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the nineties in Russia, well, that was just

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<v Speaker 2>an IMF scam through Clinton, Larry Summers and others to

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<v Speaker 2>loot Russia of billions of dollars. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>something like five hundred billion dollars where eluded up of

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<v Speaker 2>Russia under the the I m F scam. That was

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<v Speaker 2>all promoted through entities like the Carnegie Carnegie Endowment right

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<v Speaker 2>in Moscow. Right, So you had all these NGOs, these

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<v Speaker 2>think tanks soft power that you talked about that was

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<v Speaker 2>all prepping and and seeding and moving people ideologically to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to accept the idea, oh, we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go with Yeltsin because he's gonna he's gonna set us free,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to bring liberty. And the country was looted.

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<v Speaker 2>Then incomes imp and they say, oh, yeah, well we'll

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<v Speaker 2>save you sign on to all of our Western plans. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And you see that exact same model everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, there's so soft power and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's hard power. And if you the two to two

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<v Speaker 1>of the oldest continually habited cultures in cities in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is Damascus and Syria, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>and Aleppo, uh and and also Yemen, Okay, Iraq maybe

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<v Speaker 1>before that to a lesser degree, completely obliterated and demolished.

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<v Speaker 1>But look at Yemen, the continuously have inhabited buildings jay

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the oldest that you could find in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and in Syria too, and look what's being destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's targeting is done intentionally. Is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people overlook this and it might seem like an

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<v Speaker 1>elementary point, people like, yeah, uh whatever, No, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>an important point to underline. They're looking for these buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for these artifacts of heritage. Yeah, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are the first targets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's another great example that was in the Protestant Reformation

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<v Speaker 2>with all of those when many of the Reformers were

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<v Speaker 2>smashing monasteries in Catholic churches and so forth, that was

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<v Speaker 2>not just an ideology, that was actually at the best

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<v Speaker 2>of different princes and Protestant kings that supported that ideology

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<v Speaker 2>because that allowed them to confiscate what was in those

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<v Speaker 2>monasteries and churches. Right, So I mean this is just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of common sense that you can dupe a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of people with an ideology and grab a bunch of money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's part of it. But it also has

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<v Speaker 2>the effect of destroying the symbolic structures that form part

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<v Speaker 2>of the cohesive identity of peoples. So absolutely, that's This

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<v Speaker 2>kind of iconicism, as it's called, is very useful at times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like pulling the rug out from under

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<v Speaker 1>a culture if you will, obliterate all of the reminders

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<v Speaker 1>of their past greatness and not so greatness as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But people don't just preserve the good stuff. People preserve

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<v Speaker 1>the bad stuff too. I've seen as a reminder of

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<v Speaker 1>maybe lessons learned and pass not to repeat and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Those also get destroyed as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bert and Russell says that you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>reading Shakespeare in the New World Order. That'll be banned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Now whether you I mean, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>Shakespeare's ideal, but the I mean, there's things that are objectionable,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the point. The point is that it's about

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<v Speaker 2>erasing the past, and that's two make you a citizen

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<v Speaker 2>of the new Order, that's the whole point. And you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't be that if you have a past, heritage,

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<v Speaker 2>a memory and so forth, and that has to all

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<v Speaker 2>be wiped away.

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<v Speaker 1>And can you stick around after we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a short station break. Can can we can we hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to you Jay for the next segment? Sure, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stick it with Jay Dyer. A great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into a little more of the

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<v Speaker 1>detail after this break. Take a short station break with

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<v Speaker 1>the Alternate Current Radio Network. I'm your host, Patrick Henningson.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the sun Welcome back, Welcome back, ladies and

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<v Speaker 1>gentlemen to the Sunday Wire. I'm your host, Patrick Henningson.

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<v Speaker 1>We're streaming out live on the Alternate Current Radio Network

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<v Speaker 1>and also at twenty first century wy dot com. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you missed any of the live broadcast, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to iTunes and a number of other platforms after

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but also at twenty first century Wire dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to it at your leisure and you

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<v Speaker 1>can download it. We should have the track up minutes

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<v Speaker 1>after the show. And the first segment with ken Stone

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<v Speaker 1>was brilliant. Great to have a first hand account, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're very privileged to get some of these people on

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<v Speaker 1>the show to give us their take and firsthand experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always valuable, along with the great articles as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to get back to our guest, Jadarve,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we do that, I just wanted to also

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<v Speaker 1>mention that in this kind of dovetails with our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to have in this segment with Jay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Beiley published an article at twenty first Century Why,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to me one of the must read articles

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<v Speaker 1>in recent weeks. It's called George Soros the Anti Syria Impresario. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, I'm not crying wolf or anything here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know there's a lot of alternative media talk

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<v Speaker 1>show hosts and who constantly are trumpeting about how they've

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<v Speaker 1>been hacked, attacked and everything. Listen, get we've been hacked,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been attacked. I don't always talk about it, Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I posted Vanessa's article on Facebook last two nights ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and before I went to bed, it was flying. I

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<v Speaker 1>was got like one hundred and ten shares. It was

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<v Speaker 1>going clocking up quite a few views. Great article, full

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<v Speaker 1>of what I call eye candy as well, nice charts

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that when I woke up in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning it was deleted from my personal page. I posted

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<v Speaker 1>it and it made me think, who took this off

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<v Speaker 1>of Facebook? Was Facebook's communitarian police or was it something else?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was to me. Then I thought, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>article is gold. It has some powerful information in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exaggerating. Go look at that article. Read it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not familiar with this material, tell me if

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<v Speaker 1>your jaw isn't dropping. Okay, And this is timely as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the George Soros soft power industrial complex

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<v Speaker 1>where if you've got the money to throw a to

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<v Speaker 1>spread around, and if you've got the money and you

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<v Speaker 1>have the ground teams, the street teams, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the operators at the management level, you can do lots

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of things, not always nice things around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>all in the name of progress and freedom and democracy

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<v Speaker 1>and open society. Okay, that's a hell of an open

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<v Speaker 1>society when you're hacking in and deleting people's article. And

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<v Speaker 1>it proves the point. Okay, and I'll let Jay jump

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<v Speaker 1>in here. Sorry, I'm going to go on a rant,

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<v Speaker 1>But it proves the point that all these people who

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<v Speaker 1>are throwing their billions around to export freedom and democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't believe in a free press and much less

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<v Speaker 1>a free speech, and that was proven to me this week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's all a big con hypocrites of the highest order. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for that rant. But I think I look at

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<v Speaker 1>this situation, Jay, and I wonder, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who are understanding this now, but you

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<v Speaker 1>really don't understand it till you sort of get cuffed

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<v Speaker 1>on the head or punched in the nose, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you really realize that you're not dealing with In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not playing good cricket basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I posted some stuff last night and it

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<v Speaker 2>was immediately thronged by numerous comments ten twenty thirty within

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes from flat earth and neo Nazi troll accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know this is very real. Go post a

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<v Speaker 2>video and say on YouTube and then within a few

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<v Speaker 2>minutes you've got five ten twenty thumbs down and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even possible to have heard the discussion. They'll, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>suppress your views on your site. They will run these

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<v Speaker 2>bots and troll accounts that will you know, post all

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous comments that just immediately flood the page within no time.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's all very real. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>were actually saying this, you know, several weeks ago that

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking and you pointed out that this is

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<v Speaker 2>something to look for and expect. You know, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start seeing more of this, especially on these centralized

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<v Speaker 2>media platform social media platforms. What this does Twitter, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>So this gives the establishment ultimately unfortunately the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to really censor and erase things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so centralized. So this, this is what's happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a very huge centralization of content and information. They're

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<v Speaker 1>in the process of knocking out independent blogs and they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this by promoting Apple and some of the big players,

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<v Speaker 1>promoting ad blocking and then getting you to basically you

828
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and I will have to go and join Apple's news app,

829
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Apple News exactly, and then we have to go. Then

830
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>they make the money, and then we have to qualify.

831
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 2>To be in their rules as to what can be posted. Yeah.

832
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, monetization through YouTube videos is of both a

833
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 2>pro and a corn situation because I've had several instances

834
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 2>where Google will just arbitrarily say that the content that

835
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 2>you've uploaded is sensitive so you won't get any monetary

836
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 2>accrument based on the ads because it's sensitive material. And

837
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 2>who knows who decides what's sensitive, right, So if you

838
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about the Brussels attack, that's sensitive material.

839
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could have made Listen, I could have made

840
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.360
<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars on YouTube. And for people who follow

841
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>this website, who listen to this show, you'll notice one thing.

842
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I stopped posting videos on YouTube a couple of years ago.

843
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And we've I've produced television shows, I've done lots of

844
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 1>different things, but I didn't want to be I didn't

845
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>want to have to be looking over my shoulder with

846
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 1>this kind of Nazi regime of communitarianism all the time,

847
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 1>and so I just stopped making videos because it was

848
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>just like it was a minefield. And yeah, I could

849
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 1>have made a few thousand dollars here and there over

850
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that time, but the sort of rich content that I

851
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:08.519
<v Speaker 1>wanted to produce, and you know, and also bringing in

852
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 1>material from pulling in stuff and doing sort of complex

853
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>assembly of ideas and multimedia this this is very difficult

854
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to do with YouTube. You could be playing by the

855
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 1>rules Jay, as you well know, and then someone in

856
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the communitarian world can go and file a complaint, which

857
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they do on Facebook and get rid of you. Yeah,

858
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 1>knock you out. Basically, it's a bogus system. Basically, it's

859
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 1>called communitarian Uh, it's corporate communitarianism basically, and it's a

860
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a de facto censorship in my mind. But it's

861
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.119
<v Speaker 1>either that or go and just turn on my webcam

862
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and and do these sort of mindless YouTube videos that

863
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 1>that everybody's everyone's doing or you know, I won't mention

864
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:56.519
<v Speaker 1>any names, you know, but people who speak to camera

865
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, pass themselves off as philosophers and and

866
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the great minds of our generation. I really don't want

867
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 1>to be in that sort of scrum.

868
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

869
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So but getting back, getting back to the core conversation, Jay,

870
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 1>soft power. Now, first, first there was soft power. Now

871
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it's now it's smart power. Okay, So first comes hard

872
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, hard power, the hard hand force, then soft power,

873
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>then smart power. Smart power is the NGO complex, and

874
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the human rights industry and uh this is done

875
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:44.360
<v Speaker 1>by stealth. Uh, it's international. It's been very effective up

876
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to a point. I'm getting the feeling Jay though, that

877
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:53.079
<v Speaker 1>this cell by date on this is fast approaching because

878
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 1>people in't even developed the world, the so called Third World.

879
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 1>They're now understanding this a lot fast her and I

880
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.280
<v Speaker 1>think in a way the jig is up, but it's

881
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's still there's in the West. I think

882
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it's more important on the West to be moved. You know,

883
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>these institutions like the National Endowment for Democraty. Most people

884
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>internationally will look at that as a total sham, you know,

885
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 1>or the Open Society Instito. But in America, if you

886
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 1>work for these organizations, you festoon and parade around like

887
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, bureaucratic royalty. Basically, you know, helping to

888
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.320
<v Speaker 1>make the world a better place.

889
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I dated a girl who worked for the

890
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Rockefeller Ocean Foundation, their oceanography foundation. We went on a

891
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>few dates, so I got to see how those functions,

892
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, firsthand from her. And that's You're absolutely right

893
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that the idea is that that I'm here basically saving

894
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the world. It's very much a Messiah complex. And I

895
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of these people, I think, as you

896
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.880
<v Speaker 2>point out in your piece, are well meaning, well intentioned,

897
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 2>but but that's not you know, it's just it's naive.

898
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 2>It's it's that reminds me of met a girl from

899
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt who's working with Doctors Without Borders. Look at Doctors

900
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 2>without Borders. That was started by one of the heads

901
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of Builderberg, one of the big key players in Builderberg.

902
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's very much a cover, right, we see this

903
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>quite often. It's a classic espionage cover for missionaries USA

904
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 2>things like that. But it doesn't even have to be

905
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 2>some sort of James Bond cover thing. It's really as

906
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you point out, the influence that these entities, these organizations

907
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 2>try to inculcate in foreign in regions that under under

908
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>false auspices, is what I'm trying to say. So, whether

909
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 2>its USAID or these these different organizations open society. So

910
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they're there for quite obviously political reasons, right, it's not

911
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 2>about humanitarian and agendas. And if we want to figure

912
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 2>out why that is, we look at these different Institute

913
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>for Strategic Studies, Chatham House Crisis Group, International Crisis Group, CFR,

914
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Brookings Institute, Group of thirty f Foundation for Defensive Democracy.

915
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's just infinite numbers of these these They're

916
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 2>always popping up. We look back to where does this

917
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:31.000
<v Speaker 2>come from? This goes back to the roundtable groups and

918
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the Roundtable Groups were formed to basically be the think

919
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 2>tank for back in that time the British Empire, right

920
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>with Cecil Rhads, Lord Milner, and so from the Oxford

921
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Roundtable Groups you get the Council on Formulations as the

922
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Western mirror to that institution, right for the American mirror

923
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to the British institution, the Chatham House and so forth.

924
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And these are the planning committees, right, this is the

925
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Planning st Edgy Committee. For example. A lot of the

926
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:06.119
<v Speaker 2>CFR are media persons, so people involved in media to

927
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 2>be anywhere at the top of media pretty much requires

928
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>some degree of seal of approval and stamp from the

929
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>councilor Foreign Relations. And this is how this is how

930
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you had the CIA buying off back in the forties

931
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and fifties four hundred journalists and top editors under Operation Mockingbird. Now,

932
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 2>if they were doing that in the forties and fifties,

933
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.920
<v Speaker 2>does anybody think that's ceased. No, So you're absolutely spot

934
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>on when you point out that it's a tie in. Right,

935
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the mass the mainstream media works together with these kinds

936
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:52.480
<v Speaker 2>of organizations to promote political agendas, namely the agendas of Washington, London,

937
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Israel and so forth.

938
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I just watched Speaking of media, I mean

939
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Farid Zakari from CNN is a classic case of this.

940
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 1>He's got the Council on Foreign Relations Seal of approval.

941
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.360
<v Speaker 1>He often is featured as a writer there at Foreign

942
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Policy Magazine. And I'm not saying listen, there are actually

943
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:21.840
<v Speaker 1>some very good geopolitical minds who write for Foreign Policy Magazine.

944
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I can name a few. I'm sure people who follow

945
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it know there's some good ones and some really bad ones.

946
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 1>But so but people like Zacharia and then they and

947
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:37.199
<v Speaker 1>also a new one in New Claire, j is Vice News. Yes. Now,

948
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're familiar with them. I've I've

949
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.360
<v Speaker 1>had my own personal, you know, brief experiences with that organization.

950
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 1>And then it doesn't take a lot to go find

951
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to go see that Vice News. It's being marketed as

952
01:00:52.880 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>this kind of off road global media for the Miln generation.

953
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.960
<v Speaker 1>They got their seed funding seventy dollars from News Corporation

954
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 1>from Rupert Murdoch. So Rupert Murdoch is a charter owner

955
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of Vice News. So really cool for the millennials, isn't it.

956
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:18.199
<v Speaker 1>They're all people who say, I don't watch Fox, you know. Oh,

957
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I would never read the Sun or the you know whatever,

958
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the Daily New York Daily Post or whatever. The news

959
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.519
<v Speaker 1>corp rags are the tabloids, the conservative media, and these

960
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:29.039
<v Speaker 1>are their bank rolling Vice.

961
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all you have to do is look at the stories.

962
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 2>The Advice continually churns out, and it's always a pro Western,

963
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>pro Washington targeted messages about things, you know, how evil

964
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Putin is. On top of that, I should mention, by

965
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the way, it's all it's a constant blaunch of degeneracy.

966
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Advice puts out some of the most disgusting,

967
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 2>degenerate stuff.

968
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's also anti Chinese. I've noticed they covered China

969
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in a very bad way with all their roving reports too.

970
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like, you know, it's it's obvious how

971
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 1>they spin it to the young to the young generation.

972
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.440
<v Speaker 1>So this is basically brainwashing.

973
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this whole idea, I forget the term they

974
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:18.079
<v Speaker 2>use for with this radical lone wolf journalism where you

975
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 2>go in bed with isis give me a break?

976
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Anti. So they're anti Hizbala, they're anti Russia,

977
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 1>anti Chinese, anti Syrian government. So all the things that

978
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>align with the US and a NATO foreign policy is

979
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.480
<v Speaker 1>basically expressed through vice news papers.

980
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a kind of trolled the fake counterculture, the sort

981
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.719
<v Speaker 2>of fake journalism, you know. And you're not embedding with

982
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.480
<v Speaker 2>ISIS unless you're part of the establishment. That's pretty obvious.

983
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's just call up ISIS and call the media

984
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 1>person and al Hayette media whatever. Yeah, we've got a

985
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>we're working on a little piece though. We want to

986
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.039
<v Speaker 1>get sort of a to day life in Raka, and

987
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.880
<v Speaker 1>uh we thought, would you mind if we invent one

988
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of our crews with you.

989
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Anderson Cooper or whoever the CBS ABC

990
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 2>going in interviewing Ben Laden or c i A the

991
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:18.880
<v Speaker 2>whole Pentagon. Nobody can find in Laden, but the CBS

992
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.440
<v Speaker 2>ABC reporters can go sit down and interview on and.

993
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like, Isis. By the way, we're bringing our own

994
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 1>beer with us, and isis Is like yeah, that's cool,

995
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, cold cold beers after the day's filming. Yeah,

996
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 1>for all ISIS of course, so let's go yeah so

997
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 1>uh so so. But but it's also based on this

998
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>soft power principle, so so they always harken back to

999
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the basically the same matrix of ideas, which is a

1000
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 1>human rights and uh they what else? Democracy? And and

1001
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the glorification of color revolutions, even though they're apps proven

1002
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to be completely engineered from outside of these countries, and

1003
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to to great budgets as well, billions of dollars spent,

1004
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 1>including taxpayer money spent to generate some of these color

1005
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>revolutions in George Soros and so forth.

1006
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go ahead, Well, this is what was discovered in

1007
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty two, fifty three, and fifty four with the

1008
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Rece Committee. Now, I will grant that the Rice Committee

1009
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:37.519
<v Speaker 2>was stacked in terms of kind of these McCarthy ie

1010
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 2>one side of the dialectic persons. But what they discovered

1011
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they thought they were investigating communism, and what they found

1012
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was that all of the leftist socialist communist movements at

1013
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.599
<v Speaker 2>that time, which were actually just another tool of those foundations,

1014
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.400
<v Speaker 2>they were all being funded by the Rockefeller, Carnegie and

1015
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Ford Foundation. And so this aversive as they call it,

1016
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and the Norman Dodd reports, the subversive movements that we're

1017
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:10.039
<v Speaker 2>promoting both internationalism and moral relativism. That was the technique

1018
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and strategy, weaponized plan for America at that time right,

1019
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:17.519
<v Speaker 2>that was what was needed in America in the fifties.

1020
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 2>But at other times it might be a proxy force

1021
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.840
<v Speaker 2>of radical as you're hot, like you're talking about, you know,

1022
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:29.239
<v Speaker 2>with ISIS or previously al Qaeda, and these the tax

1023
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 2>refoundations are a main source of this soft power smart

1024
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.119
<v Speaker 2>power that you're talking about. And they're a way for

1025
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.320
<v Speaker 2>these oligarchs to on the one hand, hide money, right,

1026
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 2>you can hide money in a tax refoundation, and it's

1027
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.880
<v Speaker 2>also a way to influence masses of populations through social engineering.

1028
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 2>And so the Race Committee found all that. They discovered

1029
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 2>all that, and then they realized, oh, actually it's not

1030
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of you know, granola hippie tree hugging commies

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<v Speaker 2>out on the street. Uh, it's actually these billionaire foundations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I lavish offices, huge expense accounts, flying business class.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're really in the business of ending

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<v Speaker 1>poverty or whatever, you I just don't think you would

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<v Speaker 1>be flying on a private jet and your rider would

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<v Speaker 1>include h I'm not I'm not picking on anyone like

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<v Speaker 1>Bono or any of these other luminaries, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your rider wouldn't include having a chef on board. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing frog WI and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just kind of well, everybody who pushes

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<v Speaker 3>as lives in a palace, so that should tell you. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well uh jay, I'm gonna take a We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>a short station break if you want to stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to do the final lap here at the

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday Wire into the over the Rising and the most

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<v Speaker 3>glorious last half hour of the show is a cast.

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<v Speaker 3>After the show, you can listen to the archive, which

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<v Speaker 3>will be up minutes after the show on twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>century Why dot com, and you can later in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have the download link up and a podcast will

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<v Speaker 3>be on iTunes and in some other places.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on in the day. Now, this week's Shout Poll,

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<v Speaker 1>which is available right now up at twenty first century

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<v Speaker 1>WI dot com. And very interesting things are going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States regarding the presidential election, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this brings us to this week's shout poll, which is

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<v Speaker 1>is the United States a democracy or an autocracy? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the big question this week. Is the United States really

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<v Speaker 1>a democracy or is it an autocracy?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into a nitpicking argument about whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's an autocracy or a oligarchy, or whether it should

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<v Speaker 1>be a democracy, or whether it should be a constitutional republic.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be all of those things. That really doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What matters is the idea that we've been sold that

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a democracy. Is the ideas being absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>dismantled right in front of our eyes and for all

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<v Speaker 1>you and I laugh in a way at the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of your classic liberal left wing people that have pre

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<v Speaker 1>trumpmatic stress disorder, who are totally afraid and scared and

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with Donald Trump. That all of you people who

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<v Speaker 1>support Bernie Sanders, you should be thanking Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Sanders. Trump supporters should be thanking Bernie Sanders, because

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<v Speaker 1>both of these candidates are exposing the sham, the complete

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<v Speaker 1>what I call the chitty chitty bang bang version of democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally rigged, it's totally fixed. It's designed for one purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>It's overly complex to keep any outsiders or insurgent, God forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who's actually popular from breaking in to the houses

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<v Speaker 1>of power in the United States. So this is our

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<v Speaker 1>shout pole. I encourage you to go to twenty first

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<v Speaker 1>Century Wire. There's a link on the show page. If

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01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you're listening right now at the Sunday Wire. Go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and vote at that shout pole. And we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting comments. There's an interesting debate which is already forming

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<v Speaker 1>inside the poll, which is great. This is why we

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<v Speaker 1>designed it this way, why we like it this way,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't just vote, but you can have a

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01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:04.000
<v Speaker 1>debate at the same time. And so back to Jay Dyer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's our guest in this final half hour Overdrive. Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play you a clip. Okay, I'm gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>you a clip of Donald Trump's son who was on

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<v Speaker 1>CNN this morning. And basically I don't know if you'll

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01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.359
<v Speaker 1>be able to hear this clip. Jay, you might mute

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01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:23.920
<v Speaker 1>your microphone and listen online if you've got the browser open,

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01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:27.680
<v Speaker 1>or I'll just tell you Donald Trump Junior is basically

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<v Speaker 1>calling out the whole delegate process, contested convention sham, basically

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<v Speaker 1>for what it is being able to buy off delegates.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this. I mean this is a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an important rant. It's one of the most authentic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can tell if someone's authentic or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what your ideas on this are, J, but

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01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you can tell if someone's talking from their heart, or

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<v Speaker 1>if they're just reading off a political script. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've heard, if you heard his son

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01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 1>talk at all, not know, he's interesting guy. I mean

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01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.039
<v Speaker 1>he might may may or not may not have a

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01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 1>career in politics later. But I'll play this rant right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Donald Trump Junior this morning on CNN. Get

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01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a load of this. Been in at some point in

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01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:26.680
<v Speaker 1>your adult life, you've you've been in a bathroom or

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<v Speaker 1>with a trans a transvestite or so called transgender person.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they tend to be in big cities and

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01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like whatever, you know, you know, people going to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathrooms to do their business and then they leave. Basically,

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01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it's but it's a rare it's a rare occurrence unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're hanging out in certain unless you're living in Soho

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<v Speaker 1>or something. You know. It's just kind of a pointless

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<v Speaker 1>debate in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, I think that in those kinds of situations

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<v Speaker 2>and in terms of this political bantering back and forth

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01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 2>about it, it's pretty points. But I think that when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at, for example, the the Nordic countries, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the oligarchs are explicitly pushing that to now they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about giving children the right to choose their gender.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think on one in one level, on

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<v Speaker 2>one level, it is a pointless debate, and then on

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<v Speaker 2>another level it is it is for a reason. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not being talked about for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I heard. I sorry to interrupt you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I heard one MSNBC commentator. I did watch it for

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01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a little while. I couldn't take much much of it,

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01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but I did watch it, and she was she was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to people who who basically, it's just bizarre. Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're calling people like say that like you, me

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine

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<v Speaker 1>nine rest of the population as cis gender, like almost like, oh,

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01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones, those cis gender people, they're the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who have nominated to use the gender on their birth certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking to myself, no, I'm just a male. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know, or you're just a female. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why you what's with the term cis gender? It's beyond

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an easy way to deconstruct this because on the

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<v Speaker 2>one hand, these are the people who say that gender

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<v Speaker 2>is a social construct, and then they turn around and

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<v Speaker 2>believe that you can reassign your gender, that you can

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01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:28.079
<v Speaker 2>change genders, So gender cannot both be a social construct

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<v Speaker 2>and something that you convert to at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are those are contradictory things. To change your gender

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<v Speaker 2>presumes that gender is real, but they also say that

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<v Speaker 2>gender is a social construct, not real. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not sensical.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole, the whole social enterprise there is a

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01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.000
<v Speaker 1>total fallacy. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that the point of that clip that

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<v Speaker 2>you played that Trump's son made was excellent in the

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01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:54.600
<v Speaker 2>sense of it shows that the Republican Party, the GOP,

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01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 2>is not real. It's not as some entity that exists

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<v Speaker 2>to so called to be a preserve so called traditional

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01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:05.319
<v Speaker 2>culture quote conservative about all. That's meaningless in the very

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01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Speaker 2>fact that they would Now I don't put a lot

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01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.359
<v Speaker 2>of stock into politics anyway. I think it's largely theater.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much WWF. But it is illustrative that clip

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<v Speaker 2>in showing the fact that the two party system is

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01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:23.479
<v Speaker 2>a scam because they would rather have, especially the neo

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01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:29.279
<v Speaker 2>conservative ideology that dominates the GOP for the most part,

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01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:33.119
<v Speaker 2>They would rather have Hillary because hillary ismenable to that

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<v Speaker 2>than the at least the rhetoric of Donald Trump regarding

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01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:41.960
<v Speaker 2>things like NATO or Putin and borders and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that rhetoric from Trump is contrary to the

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<v Speaker 2>false two party systems game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ttp T tip globalization. These are all things that

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01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Trump speaks against. So like love them or hate him.

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01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So in this sense, Jay Trump and Bernie Sanders share

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01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of common political ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, well, they are reflections of the population. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a reflection of populism. Regardless of how sincere or realistic

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01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:18.479
<v Speaker 2>they are, and whatever they're promoting, the rhetoric obviously reflects

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of the opinion of the American population.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. The Koch brothers just came out today, one

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01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 1>of the Koch brothers, I don't know who's who. There's

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01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 1>two of them, I think, and they just endorsed Hillary Clinton.

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01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it, Well, yeah I can't. They were

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01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 1>longtime Democratic donors back in the day, in the eighties

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01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and nineties, I believe, And so yeah, they're very hip

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01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to the two party scam game. They've been a part

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01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 1>of that for many decades. And it's another example what

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01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:52.199
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the previous hour of Once you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get to that level you figure out, you

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01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:57.279
<v Speaker 1>know that it's a scam. And at a certain time,

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01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the Koch brothers promote libertarianism because it's I have intageous

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01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 1>to whatever their business interests might be. And in another

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01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>time you want to promote collectivism, socialism, leftism, progressive at

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01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:13.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever terms, all of which is essentially meaningless because it's

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01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.920
<v Speaker 1>all the same game plan. It's the same game plan,

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01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:19.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's a different rhetoric that they all speak during

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01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the campaign season and they go and vote for all

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01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the same gobbledygoot oligarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all that it is. And Plato said a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago quote democracy is the mask for oligarchy.

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01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Wow, there you go, So you I know how you'd

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01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:37.960
<v Speaker 1>vote in our shout pull, which is up in twenty

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01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:40.800
<v Speaker 1>first century. While go ahead and vote, let's get some

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01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>activity on that debate. I voted autocracy. Basically, Jay, I

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01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 1>said that the US is an autocracy.

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<v Speaker 2>The only solution, you know, the only solution out of

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01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:55.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a global empire with me as the philosopher king.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, the benevolent philosopher king. It's a great solution, Jay,

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01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:06.399
<v Speaker 1>if you can just find the right philosopher king right, Well.

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01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Me, God Emperor of Dune and if I could just

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01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.199
<v Speaker 2>get some you know, some good guys in a think

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01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:16.039
<v Speaker 2>tank to sell that ideology across the internet.

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01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know, there's hope for you, Jay, There's

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01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:24.039
<v Speaker 1>always hope. There's always there's always a future for great minds. Now,

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01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what you have to say about

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01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.239
<v Speaker 1>this story that's out. This will be the last story

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01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we cover today this week. This is basically all over

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01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the news. Personally, I think it's a red herring. This

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01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>so called redacted twenty eight pages of intelligence reports from

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01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:46.199
<v Speaker 1>the nine to eleven Commission report and Saudi Arabia losing

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01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:50.720
<v Speaker 1>its immunity if you will, for lawsuits from the nine

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01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to eleven victims families and somehow insinuating that Saudi Arabia

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01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 1>is behind the tax of nine to eleven. Now, what

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01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:02.319
<v Speaker 1>do you mean this first, Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny because this shows the amnesia of the public and media,

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01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.319
<v Speaker 2>because this is not news. That this was known. People

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01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:13.920
<v Speaker 2>were talking about this in two thousand and four, Saudi

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01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Arabia involvement, and there were infinite endless articles back at

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01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that time that dealt with it. I remember reading them

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01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:25.199
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, and this is all nonsense, red

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01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:30.399
<v Speaker 2>herring distraction. This is a PC conspiracy theory. Nobody cares

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<v Speaker 2>about fingering a bunch of Saudis as involved in it,

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01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.479
<v Speaker 2>which is, who knows what's true in that regard? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean some of it at the time of nine to eleven,

1235
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:43.840
<v Speaker 2>right after the BBC reported that some of these people

1236
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 2>were completely fake. The BBC still has that story up

1237
01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of the completely manufactured hijacker. Now what does that indicate

1238
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to us, not just that, but this whole hubbub of

1239
01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 2>this twenty eight pages redacted nonsense. Well, again, it's a

1240
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:07.600
<v Speaker 2>PC conspiracy theory. It wasn't the Saudis that told Norrad

1241
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 2>to stand down. It wasn't the Saudis that were running

1242
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:16.279
<v Speaker 2>US military drills up until nine to eleven, including Vigilant Guardian.

1243
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:20.399
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Saudi's that were offering the PENAC document, right,

1244
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is how ridiculous is this?

1245
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Right? Uh?

1246
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's it's this is this is a distraction in

1247
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:32.439
<v Speaker 2>the It's a it's a way to corral nine to

1248
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:39.359
<v Speaker 2>eleven focus into non non event, a non thing.

1249
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's to heard. It's to heard the public down

1250
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:46.079
<v Speaker 1>another rabbit hole which is eventually going to be a

1251
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>dead end. Yeah, none of the.

1252
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Gill coons are going to go to jail over this,

1253
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 2>None of the people who authored PENAC, who were the

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01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:56.039
<v Speaker 2>most obvious candidates and suspects. Right, this is going to

1255
01:19:56.079 --> 01:20:01.079
<v Speaker 2>point to some amorphous faction of rat call Saudis or

1256
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>something like that, which is just nonsense.

1257
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And the so called you know conservatives or usual establishment

1258
01:20:09.479 --> 01:20:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Republican suspects will grandstand now appearing to look tough against

1259
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia. And so I think what's happened here, it's

1260
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the Saudis have been duped. And I think this goes

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01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.159
<v Speaker 1>back to the earlier part of our conversation Jay, where

1262
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the the sort of Anglo Atlanticist Anglo

1263
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 1>American internationalists and will use certain periods and apply different

1264
01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 1>techniques and tools, and use certain regimes. And in this case,

1265
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the Saudi Arabians have been useful in the last just

1266
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:46.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty or sixty years.

1267
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Saddam or Goadafi.

1268
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And so they set them up basically, and now it's

1269
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.880
<v Speaker 1>basically this is leverage for some sort of diplomatic or

1270
01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:00.199
<v Speaker 1>commercial blackmail to move to basically power nudging, if you will,

1271
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:05.439
<v Speaker 1>to nudge Saudi Arabia into another position which the West

1272
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>wants it to do, and they felt they basically fell

1273
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 1>for it. They had their man, Prince Bandar Ben Sultan.

1274
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>He was a member of the Carlisle Group and embedded

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01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:19.279
<v Speaker 1>with the Bushes quite deeply, and he drew Saudi Arabia

1276
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>in many ways and their intelligence apparatus into this maze

1277
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that was nine to eleven, the planning of it and

1278
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the execution of it. And so right now there's sort

1279
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of you know, compromised in public opinion because of that.

1280
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And this was all PC conspiracy theory back to Michael

1281
01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:41.439
<v Speaker 2>Moore's Fahrenheit nine to eleven, which pointed out all all

1282
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:46.560
<v Speaker 2>of these Carlisle Group Saudi connections, which you know, none

1283
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 2>of that still couched in the idea of blowback, right, which, yeah,

1284
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 2>which blowback is ridiculous when you look at how all

1285
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:59.439
<v Speaker 2>the all of the drills and so forth that perfectly

1286
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 2>match up of the events of nine to eleven. Yeah,

1287
01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and the whole narrative itself is ridiculous. So you have

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01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the movies that come along later Flight ninety three or

1289
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.560
<v Speaker 2>whatever that's supposed to fill in the gaps. And I

1290
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.359
<v Speaker 2>think that for the mass public. That's what the Hollywood

1291
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>functions to do, as Chris has pointed out many times Poxbusters,

1292
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:21.920
<v Speaker 2>is to fill in the gaps of people's interpretation of

1293
01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the news nuggets that they got.

1294
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I saw that movie, and that showed how

1296
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the you know, how the hijackers got their box cutters

1297
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and took over the plane and all this nonsense. And

1298
01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.319
<v Speaker 2>then when you you know, you think about Operation Northwoods

1299
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that talked about completely stage news, completely fake plane bombs,

1300
01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:46.960
<v Speaker 2>faked persons coming on the news and telling fake stories

1301
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>in that instance in regard to Cuba. But it's the

1302
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 2>same sort of model, right, drone planes, faked stuff, pulls flag.

1303
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And then Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage even did a nine

1304
01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:04.479
<v Speaker 1>to eleven film, didn't he It was like he wasn't.

1305
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.840
<v Speaker 2>A World Trade movie. I was a Yes, it was

1306
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:13.039
<v Speaker 2>a Stone film, but I actually never saw that I got.

1307
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I remember going to see Flight ninety three and walking

1308
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:16.079
<v Speaker 2>out of the theater.

1309
01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>It was so wow, you walked out? I did?

1310
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:20.399
<v Speaker 2>It was so bad.

1311
01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I almost did. In Zero Doc thirty, I almost walked

1312
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>out in the first minute. And I was with my

1313
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.039
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend at the time, so I didn't want her to

1314
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, waste the ten pounds or whatever we paid

1315
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>each to get in. But so I stand and I

1316
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>stayed through the whole film, and I looked at the

1317
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>propaganda aspect of it. But it was really hard. I mean,

1318
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.439
<v Speaker 1>the first how long did you did it take you

1319
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.479
<v Speaker 1>to walk out of the theater on flight ninety three?

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01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Thirty forty minutes?

1321
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I think thirty? Oh you did good, you did really good.

1322
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that the one where they said let's roll. I

1323
01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was let's roll.

1324
01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, A bunch of shaky planes, sequences and guys's box

1325
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:04.199
<v Speaker 2>cutters taken over the plane, and all of which is

1326
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a nonsense, made up, you know, Hollywood stories, and that's

1327
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's where Hollywood comes into all this, as

1328
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>they function to tell the story that the mainstream media

1329
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>makes up to begin with, and then Hollywood fills in

1330
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the tall tale. So but yeah, I mean,

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01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:25.199
<v Speaker 2>it's just I'm not sure what the signals in terms

1332
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:30.279
<v Speaker 2>of Saudi Arabia, in terms of geopolitics. Some people say, well,

1333
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.479
<v Speaker 2>this is the establishment signaling that they're going to dump

1334
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the Saudi. I don't think that's true. They're not going

1335
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to dump the Saudis or anything.

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01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>No, they won't, but they'll they'll apply pressure on them

1337
01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>from different directions in order to get them to do

1338
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>what they want basically. And they've also Saudi Arabia has

1339
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:51.079
<v Speaker 1>been led into Yemen as well, encouraged by the Pentagon,

1340
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:55.079
<v Speaker 1>by Washington. And this is also going to further compromise

1341
01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia's standing because all the news about what they've

1342
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>done in Yemen, the massacres, is starting to come out

1343
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>now now that Syria has calmed down a little bit,

1344
01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>so again more more compromised.

1345
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of function like in the same way that presidents,

1346
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, over their four year terms will take all

1347
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the heat for the bogus policies that they enact. You know,

1348
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>they're they're pat season away in a sense of you know,

1349
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>it's okay for the media to to go after that

1350
01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>when they're really just league gates of the the Atlantis's

1351
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>establishment anyway, who are never going to receive the heat.

1352
01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:37.199
<v Speaker 1>So one of the legates the gets is a former

1353
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Senator Graham up Bob Graham I think his name is,

1354
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and so he I think I think he's one of

1355
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:50.319
<v Speaker 1>these key Panac type people. I mean, he does like

1356
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:54.439
<v Speaker 1>McCain and some of these others. Does fashion himself as

1357
01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>an outsider, a maverick, but I think he's an absolute

1358
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>part of the uh uh lablishment, if you will. This

1359
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>is him this morning on I think it was Meet

1360
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the Press. Here he is, This is Senator Graham. This

1361
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting clip, so you might want to listen

1362
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:15.039
<v Speaker 1>to this. It's extraordinary. Actually, I don't believe your word

1363
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that this guy is saying. Basically more of that Jay.

1364
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:23.279
<v Speaker 1>So this Senator Graham a total insider, he's gatekeeping. Chuck

1365
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Todd is so called journalist, is totally clueless about the

1366
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>line of bully that he's being spun on. And so

1367
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy sits there in one hand, he makes sense.

1368
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>He starts out by saying, Jay, he says this, the

1369
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>hijackers couldn't have done this alone. Yeah right, okay, yeah,

1370
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>duh of course. And then at the same then he

1371
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>goes and says that Saudi Arabia started al Qaeda. Now

1372
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit of an oversimplification. And so then

1373
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>he says that you know that, so basically, no US involvement,

1374
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:02.479
<v Speaker 1>no CIA involvement in al kaya To, no handling, no

1375
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Israeli intelligence involvement in the handling of some of these hijackers,

1376
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>as is easily proven just look at some of the

1377
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>work by Peterdale, Scott and others. It's obvious. Okay, So

1378
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>this guy is here to divert and to create a

1379
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a goose wild goose chase for the for

1380
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the press who basically don't know there, you know what

1381
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>from their elbow exactly on any issue, much less the

1382
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>maze that is nine to eleven basically.

1383
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, how ridiculous is it to finger these

1384
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:39.239
<v Speaker 2>You can look at these nations as almost kind of

1385
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>front So I guess you could say in terms of

1386
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>the Western power establishment. I mean, I mean, what is

1387
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Washington is kind of just another front for the you know,

1388
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the the banking families that run this whole, this whole game.

1389
01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>And so in the same way, you know what this does.

1390
01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:59.159
<v Speaker 2>It always allows you to, oh, point the finger over there,

1391
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh Saudi's there, did it. Oh this, you know, Saddam

1392
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>over there, he did it. Oh this. So it's a

1393
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>never ending, like you said, a maze. It's a labyrinth

1394
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that you'll never ever get to the bottom of. And

1395
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>that's because the most obvious culprits are the establishment itself,

1396
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:15.399
<v Speaker 2>and it's and it really is that simple. You know.

1397
01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>You just look at the panat documents, You look at

1398
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>all the people who were talking about the the the

1399
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>drills and the so forth that led up to nine

1400
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:28.479
<v Speaker 2>to eleven Richard Clark. You know, these big security so

1401
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:32.239
<v Speaker 2>called experts, they're all neo conservatives, they're all they're all

1402
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.279
<v Speaker 2>part of the same gang, the same gaggle.

1403
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1404
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, they're never ever going to be fingered and

1405
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 2>put into any kind of trial or jail or whatever.

1406
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's who stacked the nine to eleven report.

1407
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.159
<v Speaker 2>It was all the people involved in in the in

1408
01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the cover up, uh, you know, all the all these people,

1409
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:57.439
<v Speaker 2>uh work for the oligarchs. And so it's yeah, we've

1410
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>seen this so many times where the blame is put

1411
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>upon some group that may have had some minor involvement.

1412
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1413
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like the same in the drug war,

1414
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>where it's oh, we're going to bust this cartel over here,

1415
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, the CIA running the drugs is never mentioned,

1416
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>or the CIA helping those cartels, it's never mentioned. Right,

1417
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>But you can finger the middle man, the lower man,

1418
01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>you know. So if there was any.

1419
01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>If there was any reality to any of these charges.

1420
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Saudi Arabia did nine to eleven, I'm

1421
01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:36.439
<v Speaker 1>sure it wouldn't have taken fifteen years to figure that out.

1422
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>But if there was any reality, you know, they've they've

1423
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>slapped full sanctions on Syria, on the government, you know,

1424
01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:48.039
<v Speaker 1>media organizations in Syria, state TV stations, they can't import

1425
01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:52.199
<v Speaker 1>any cameras, any electrical, any broadcast equipment. There's a full

1426
01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:55.359
<v Speaker 1>lockdown on that country. What did Syria do to the

1427
01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>United States? Nothing? What did Syria do to anybody? Pretty much? Nothing? Okay?

1428
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>So and then full sanctions Russia, full sanctions for what

1429
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>was meant to be MH seventeen, the downing of MH

1430
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>seventeen European sanctions. So if Saudi, if they had this

1431
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 1>evidence that Saudi Arabia did nine to eleven, there would

1432
01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:21.399
<v Speaker 1>be massive sanctions drop down on that country. I mean,

1433
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>they come and go as they please throughout the United States.

1434
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:28.439
<v Speaker 1>That's a joke.

1435
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not going to happen because of the situation

1436
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>that was organized with Opek via Builderberg. So the seventies

1437
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>oil crisis situation, m hmm, that was organized by Builderberg

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was William F. Ingdahl details that

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<v Speaker 2>in his book pretty well. And so what that did

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<v Speaker 2>was allow the Saudis to be, of course the chief

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<v Speaker 2>oil that's who got the oil contract, so to speak, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're the cheap oil producer, suppliers and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's never going to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, speaking of speaking of coughing, speaking of coughing.

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<v Speaker 1>If if anyone believes that nine to eleven was Saudi blowback,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've been doing too many back blowback hits

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<v Speaker 1>on on the bong. Basically, it's just not feasible.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not coughing from a bong, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're not. I know you're not. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does require the establishment's story is the most

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01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>fantastical conspiracy there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild. Yeah, it's absolutely wild.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't I don't want to get into physics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean a nine to eleven has become the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hermetic work of the alternative media, or the

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01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>sacred hermetic work, you know, like the jfk assassination. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason I don't get into it, Jay, into detail, is

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of people who I would call

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<v Speaker 1>specialists who have you know, dedicated most of their life

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01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to those stories and niches. So I just look at

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<v Speaker 1>their research and look at their findings. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>compelled to do a lot of that myself because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing a whole broad range of other topics and areas

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<v Speaker 1>so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll have to do is focus on the big,

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<v Speaker 2>the big picture and the big the big pieces of evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Norad standing down the drills, the drills event

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<v Speaker 2>to the event, past drills like Operation Northwoods that are

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<v Speaker 2>the same, very much like the MG seventeen scenario, very

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<v Speaker 2>much like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very north Woods actually MH seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>In Panac And who stood to gain? You know that?

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<v Speaker 2>What else do you need, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Key bono? Who benefits? Yeah, a little bit of Latin.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is going to be it for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Sunday Wire. I do thank everybody for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Jay Dyer, thank you for holding on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and for this I could please let me I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to encourage listeners. If you like the material

1481
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that I presented, help me out by subscribing to Jay's analysis.

1482
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.439
<v Speaker 2>You get my talks and lectures for four ninety five

1483
01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a month. The PayPal link and You can also pre

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01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.319
<v Speaker 2>order my book So so Tery Hollywood. You'll see the

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01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>links there at Jay's analysis as well as Jamie Hanshaw's

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<v Speaker 2>book Sooteric Colley. I mean, excuse me, Hollywood, my control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be a big seller. Jay. The

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<v Speaker 1>book's coming out in June, right it is. Yep, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a bit. It's already a big seller

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<v Speaker 1>because I know, I've seen I've seen the links, the

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01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:38.359
<v Speaker 1>clicks through. There's a lot of interest in this book, Jay,

1492
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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's totally unique. There's no one who's

1493
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.239
<v Speaker 1>done it before. So yeah, it's going to be.

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01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>A Hollywood scandal book. I want to point that out.

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01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>You might be thinking from the title, oh, this is

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01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>just another one of those you know, who did Marilyn

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01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Monroe sleep with? No, no, No, it's not that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Esoteric Hollywood. That's going to be the must

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<v Speaker 1>have item this summer. Author is Jay Dyer. And also

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Ken Stone, our earlier guests, and everybody

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01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>our listeners at twenty first Century Wire Sunday War all

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01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>our supporters, We thank you, and we will be making

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01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>some big announcements next week. So do stay tuned. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a fantastic segment lined up next week. I've got

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01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:27.039
<v Speaker 1>a guest, one of the best geopolitical analysts in my opinion, around,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be joining us for a two hour segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to hit Africa, We're gonna hit everything in

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01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that segment. It's going to be definitely one not to miss.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Patrick Kennings and your host. Have a good day

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you next week.