WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:12.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grubb, 2 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.640 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:16.760 tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.920 a rough launch for a new PC game and executives 5 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:24.079 are getting excited about streaming again. Oh no, it's gonna 6 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:25.800 be a good one because we have Jason Bonelli on 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.480 the show. Jason, how are you doing on Finelli Friday? 8 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.799 It's a good Finelle Friday. Feeling good. Hope you are too. 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.759 As you can see, I'm in my Philadelphia tuxedo going 10 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.079 down to the ballpark this evening. It is a fine 11 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:42.960 utly Wall of Fame night. Oh that's great. The most 12 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.079 I think this is the most excited my wife has 13 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.520 been to go to a baseball game in the regular 14 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.439 season ever. We bought these tickets in March. This is 15 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.399 our favorite player of all time. She is very, very 16 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:56.479 excited to go see this. We are leaving for the 17 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.159 ballpark at three point thirty for a six forty first 18 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.880 pitch because she wants to see all of the pregame 19 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:04.200 stuff and I am very much looking forward to it 20 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.640 as well. Other than that, it's it's a normal time 21 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:12.920 where you you were slowly creeping into the busy release season, 22 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.719 but some of that seems to have leaked out and 23 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:16.359 gotten to me. 24 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:16.760 Now. 25 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:19.640 I mean, I am, and there's no embargo on this 26 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.079 so I can say this. I am currently reviewing Marvel 27 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:29.079 took On for game Spot and Madden for IGN. So 28 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.439 I went from nothing to everything in the span of 29 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.079 two hours. 30 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.599 It really is. Madden is always the one. 31 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:38.799 It's like, oh yeah, review season his year, like that 32 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:40.719 is all the games start coming out after that point. 33 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.840 Alex and Bar always used to say that, and that's 34 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.959 that's still true. We see John Madden, we see him 35 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:47.840 see a shadow, and then that means it's time to 36 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:48.840 get to get to work. 37 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.239 Yeah, go ahead, Now this year, did you see Nicholas 38 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.040 Cage as John Madden in those in those trailers? 39 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.719 I've seen it a little bit. I need to, like, Yeah, 40 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:58.959 I need is there a new trailer. 41 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.719 I think something came out yesterday. I think it was 42 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:03.680 the other day before something came out earlier this week 43 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:05.159 that I haven't had a chance. I haven't a chance 44 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.000 to see it yet either. I am oddly curious about 45 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:11.919 that one. I really am. It's gonna be a weird 46 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:13.840 one man. 47 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.400 You're going to the baseball game, like remind me, Like the 48 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.960 Tigers won like four or five since they traded Schooble, 49 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.840 and I think the Dodgers maybe on a full losing 50 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:23.680 strike since then. 51 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.400 So uh, hopefully hopefully God's punishing them. 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For all these topics, I'll get the input 83 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.039 of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 84 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.360 If you're watching live on twitch welcome, You can always 85 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.759 listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching 86 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.159 for game Mes Mornings, or find the RSS feed on 87 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.039 giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show 88 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.439 later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 89 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.840 Hello YouTube. All right, we have a. 90 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.360 Lot to get into, so let's start the morning mess 91 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:09.439 with Marvel. Tocon launches to an abysmal forty four percent 92 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.439 rating on Steam specifically. This is from Kenneth Shepper over 93 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.759 at Kataku. I guess it's not too surprising that Marvel 94 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.399 Tokon Fighting Souls. Arc system works new anime fighter pitting 95 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.160 Marvel heroes against each other is having a rough launch 96 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:23.680 on PC. 97 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:25.480 The game's open beta. 98 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.639 Struggled on the platform, and that was only a couple 99 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.439 of weeks prior to yesterday's launch. The bad word of 100 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.839 mouth has seemingly caught up to it, as the game 101 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.800 has launched with just a little over half the day 102 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:38.920 one players on Steam that Dragon Ball Fighter Z, also 103 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.079 developed by Arc system Works had at launch in twenty eighteen. 104 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.600 Tocon's player count on Steam landed at around twenty four thousand. 105 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.240 That's compares to the forty four thousand of Fighters Z. 106 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:50.560 This is a Sony game, and thus it is also 107 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.759 on PlayStation five, so it stands to reason that there's 108 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.279 not a not insignificant number of people playing on the console. 109 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.920 Since the open beta last month, players have been reporting 110 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.680 the game is oddly very demanding on PC, which some 111 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.759 have theorized maybe in part to the due to the 112 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.959 game requiring a PlayStation network sign in and thus running 113 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:12.680 more back end programs that are eating up CPU and memory. 114 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.920 People also think that it's the anti chat. In conjunction 115 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.800 with that, it seems to be a real, real demanding 116 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.800 on everything. Kotaku's own test of the open beta, however, 117 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.519 show the game is just demanding on its own. For instance, 118 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.360 the game often hogged upwards of ninety five percent of 119 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.360 my CPU and occasionally as much as five thousand megabytes 120 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.519 of my PC's physical memory. Lewis Parker wrote for Kataku 121 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.319 on of his experience with the beta, six separate versions 122 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:41.519 of the PlayStation PC SDK runtime application also booted when 123 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:45.439 starting the game, although these had very minimal impact on 124 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.279 my CPU and memory. Now the full game is out, 125 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.800 it doesn't sound like performance troubles have improved much in 126 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.240 the two weeks since the testing phase. Linux users seem 127 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:56.959 to be especially having trouble running the game at all. 128 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.560 Just kind of won't basically won't boot for them. The 129 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.560 game is horribly optimized and they should have pushed the 130 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.920 game the push the PC, but released back until they 131 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.040 figured this out. A Steam steam user review reads, I 132 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.920 played Teken Street Fight Er six on Ultra and never 133 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.199 to blow sixty frames per second. This is sad because 134 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.199 I want to recommend this game due to the amount 135 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.759 of fun it is, but realistically it's in such a 136 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.160 bad spot at the moment. Wait for a hot fix 137 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.480 before purchasing. This morning, Arc system Works put out a 138 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:27.759 statement thinking fans for playing on launch day and noted 139 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:32.040 is it is investigating problems with Token's PC version, but 140 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:36.240 it didn't owe any specific issue it was looking into. Yeah, 141 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.120 it seems it seems like a real unfortunate situation that 142 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.680 these problems were widely known by people who were playing 143 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.439 in those betas, widely reported. A lot of people are like, Okay, 144 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.000 hopefully they get that fixed up before launch. They probably will. 145 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:52.040 Here we are that didn't happen. The game seems pretty 146 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:56.160 busted on PC in a lot of ways. I played 147 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.680 it offline yesterday and that wasn't on the PC wasn't 148 00:06:59.680 --> 00:06:59.959 too bad. 149 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.600 And I let the shaders go. I think that's a 150 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:02.399 big part. Don't play. 151 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.839 Let the shaders build themselves, pre build on the game first. 152 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:09.480 I think a lot of people are probably having performance 153 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:13.160 issues specifically because of that. But if you have a BVPC, 154 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.319 you're probably like, I shouldn't need to really do that, 155 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.319 like without like and expect to you know, maybe I 156 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.199 won't get perfect performance, maybe there'll be some hitches here 157 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.360 and there, but it's way worse than that according to 158 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.600 a lot of people. And then this Linux thing that 159 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:26.439 means this thing won't boot on Steam deck, it won't 160 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:27.639 boot on Steam machines. 161 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:29.160 You got a shiny new Steam machine. 162 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.040 This thing gets released on Steam, you expect it to work, 163 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:33.439 and it just doesn't. 164 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.560 Kind of a mess. On PC, it seems like, yeah, 165 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:39.519 which is a shame. I did find it interesting that 166 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.439 review code did not go out until launch day for 167 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.519 this one. Yeah A, now it makes sense, and be 168 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.399 everyone I heard that got code it was all PlayStation code. Anyway, 169 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.079 I am reviewing the game on PlayStation. That PlayStation five 170 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:57.600 is my copy, and I have not had but one 171 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:02.199 issue once the game downloaded. I will say, I don't 172 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.279 know if they fixed this yet, but when it first 173 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.399 when the codes first dropped at eleven am yesterday, if 174 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.800 you installed the game on PlayStation, you would have gotten 175 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.959 the play game right. And on PlayStation there's a difference 176 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.920 between playing the game and when it's ready to play. 177 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:21.480 But it's still downloading things. This said play game, which 178 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.399 is usually the one hundred percent indicator, but it was 179 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.040 still downloading things in the background. So if you went in, 180 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.920 you chose your language, you confirmed what language you wanted 181 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.799 the game to be in, and then it looped back 182 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.799 into the booting and it just did that over and 183 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.480 over again until everything installed. That was the only hitch 184 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.039 that I have seen so far. 185 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.399 And that that play early like, well, it's still downloading thing. God, 186 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.759 I never trust that work. It almost never does. And 187 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.200 I've been playing both offline and online. I found a 188 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.159 group of good folks Kenny Shepherd, Jesse Vittelli, John Carson, 189 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:59.360 and the like in a discord group last night. We 190 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.720 were trading back and forth in the little I think 191 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.080 it was. Ken made a room and then we all 192 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:07.000 joined the room and there's four consoles in there, so 193 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.639 eight people can play at a time, with one spectating 194 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.720 waiting for the first one off. Really cool set up. There, 195 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:15.879 no hitches at all. Play was playing games as if 196 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.440 we were in the same room. Really really felt good. 197 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.399 But I I just. 198 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:27.679 I think there's still from a technical standpoint, it's frustrating 199 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:29.600 because they saw all these things were coming into beta, 200 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.399 they had the opportunity to delay, and they didn't. Are 201 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.159 kind of working off the seat of their pants here, 202 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:38.000 But I feel like with fighting games in particular, there 203 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.480 has always been the sentiment that they are console heavy, 204 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.120 and that has shifted. I feel like PC fighting games 205 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:49.559 have really risen in the past maybe decade or so, 206 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.679 definitely so to the to where they're I'm starting to 207 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:57.600 consider them like the premiere platform for fighting games. So 208 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.200 I don't I think that even our system works. So 209 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.559 it has never been good at PC ports to begin with. 210 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.600 Let's be fair, may even be surprised by how many 211 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.200 people wanted to play this game on PC. And I 212 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:12.600 also too, am wondering how much PlayStation's interference or maybe 213 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.240 in the back end, as was mentioned here, might be 214 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.919 having that issue too, because PlayStation was never good at 215 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:22.000 PC ports either historically. It just seems like a perfect 216 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:29.720 storm of subpar PC port capabilities has created this mess, 217 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:31.600 and we're not sure when exactly we're going to be 218 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.000 able to dig it day out. 219 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.720 Of Yeah, and it does seem like, you know, to 220 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:38.679 the point of the story, like no one ever really 221 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:41.639 had any issues with playing these games or booting it 222 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.919 up on Linux or whatever when it was Dragonball Fighter Z, right, 223 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.440 that's all that stuff works just fine, And it does 224 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.000 seem to be like, well, PlayStation is publishing this, there 225 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.240 is the PlayStation, the PlayStation app has to launch, the 226 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.960 PlayStation anticheat needs to be approved. 227 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:59.120 Which you know, I think we're all. 228 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.039 I'm assuming that the anti cheat is the exact thing 229 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.200 that is preventing it from booting on Linux. Really, right, 230 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.039 that's it. That's a story that's as old as as 231 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.720 time at this point. So it's like that is just 232 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:14.200 PlayStation not caring about that. I'm letting Arc system Works 233 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:15.639 off the off the hook here a little bit. I 234 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.440 don't know for sure, but this definitely seems mostly like 235 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.840 PlayStation because when we look back at Arc system Works history, like, yeah, 236 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:25.480 not perfect PC ports, but they have had issues like 237 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.559 this before. I'll say, when I put it up on PC, 238 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.200 I installed it. I didn't I didn't like not click 239 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.320 any approval things, I didn't miss anything. 240 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.399 I just installed it on Steam like normal. 241 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.759 It didn't even install the PlayStation back end app, and 242 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.960 then it yelled at me for not having that installed. 243 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:43.840 It's hey, it's not installed. Where is it. I'm like, 244 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:48.120 bitch on it. That's your job. It's about yeah, what 245 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.639 are you doing here? Yeah, And if. 246 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.080 People are trying trying to maybe say that PlayStation wasn't 247 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.480 as involved as Arc system Works. Sure, Arc system Works 248 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.679 developed the game, but when you boot this thing up, 249 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.600 before you see the Arc system Works logo, you see 250 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.360 the first party PlayStation logo with all of the symbols 251 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.080 a mission game and it's a PlayStation game. Do not 252 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.960 discount how much they are involved in this. So I 253 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.159 am not surprised if it's that, If it's Arc system 254 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:21.080 Works just not having as much experience. They do have experience, 255 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:22.720 don't get me wrong, They've ported all these things, but 256 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.480 they've always had sorts of hiccups. They've never been very 257 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.240 good at the PC port. Again, that Perfect Storm just 258 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:32.120 kind of revolving around which is which is a fun game. 259 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.120 It's very unfortunate. As somebody said in chat, I wonder 260 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:36.720 how long it's going to take them to dig out 261 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:36.840 of this. 262 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:37.720 Yep. 263 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.120 Yeah, And I think like that Perfect Storm aspect is 264 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.080 worth mentioning Jason, because it's like, sure. 265 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:46.120 Maybe PlayStation is the source of these problems. 266 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.639 Arc system Works ability to navigate them though is always likely. 267 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:51.879 They haven't done this sort of thing before with PlayStation 268 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:54.759 and getting the PlayStation stuff working on PC, and so 269 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.039 it's like they're going to rely on Sony to come 270 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.360 through on that, and maybe they don't even know exactly 271 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.440 what they what they need from them because they haven't 272 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.039 done that before and it's not like they're PC experts. 273 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:10.799 So yeah, now I don't I'm hoping. I'm imagining this 274 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.559 is not going to be a long term problem. They 275 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.120 do get these things fixed pretty quickly. They want this 276 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.799 game to do well on PC. They released it on 277 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.039 PC for a reason, as you mentioned, that is a 278 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:23.720 growing segment of the fighting game market is happening on 279 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.679 that platform. So they can't let this forty four percent 280 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:29.960 you know, mostly negative or like it's I think it's 281 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.360 like fully negative rating on Steam. 282 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.600 Stand that is something you have to do something. 283 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.679 About because that is a scarlet letter this game will carry, 284 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.039 and it will hurt the sales. 285 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:40.799 Without a doubt, it'll hurt the sales. 286 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.120 I'll tell you when they're going to have it ready 287 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.360 by at the very least, you know, and that's going 288 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.679 to be it's gonna be October eighth. You know why 289 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.879 October eighth because EVO France is October ninth through eleven. 290 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.639 Marvel Tokn is a feature game there, and oh they 291 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.480 don't own Evo anymore, do they Now they don't own 292 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.919 Evo any more. Well, still they don't want it to 293 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.039 look bad on a on a public platform like that. 294 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.200 And they're still very like, yeah, they're still very much 295 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.600 involved in that where it's like they know the fighting 296 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.600 game scene is super important, Like they just did that 297 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.759 update for the PlayStation the PlayStation system where it's like, uh, 298 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.919 like you can lock down the bluetooth so it's less 299 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:21.080 interference when there's like fifteen PlayStations in a room together, 300 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.720 so that when you're like at a fighting game tournament, 301 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.000 things pair more easily or something like that. So so yeah, 302 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.159 they're they're aware of that. Well, okay, but what do 303 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:31.480 you what do you said? You played some of the 304 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.440 games so far. I know you're you're gonna you're trying 305 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.679 to play it for review, So what do you think 306 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:36.240 of it so far? 307 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:42.399 I am really enjoying the fighting system once I train 308 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.919 my brain to get out of the be first to 309 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.440 hit every time. Marvel versus Capcom sort of approach that 310 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.559 I used to take this one is like in Matt 311 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.879 Marvel's Capcom three, you would have your your your combo 312 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.840 progression light, light, medium, heavy, pop up and then go 313 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:07.000 up from there. This one has more of a like 314 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.360 you can do all lights, you can do all mediums, 315 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.840 you can do all heavies. You can do light, medium, heavy, 316 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.240 but you're not going to get as many hits out 317 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.159 of it. You have to really work in the entire kit, 318 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.279 plus the special moves which are done Smash Brother style 319 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.120 press a button and a direction or press a button neutral, 320 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.840 So that takes working that in to the speed of 321 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:29.960 a Marvel fighting game like this. It's taken some adjustment, 322 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.039 but not at the games detriment, at my own, detriment 323 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.879 at my own to learn the new system. But once 324 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.440 I got it down and I started figuring out characters 325 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.480 that I am gelling with to create my four person team, 326 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.320 it's really starting to sing. I like Penny Parker in 327 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:51.559 her big Spider mach, I like Miss Marvel a lot. 328 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:52.840 I like Black. 329 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.639 Panther here, surey is really cool, and I'm still trying 330 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.759 to find that fourth slot. It's magic at the moment, 331 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:04.039 but I'm really feeling magic all that much. But I 332 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.000 I really am enjoying my time with it. I have 333 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:08.639 a lot more to dig into. I haven't done any 334 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:13.840 of the campaign yet. I haven't done any broad online. 335 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:15.559 I only did that room match. I went into the 336 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.759 open lobby and it seemed to work fine. But I 337 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.799 haven't done any of the like like just challenging a 338 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:23.200 random person yet. But but so far, so good, so 339 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.080 far in the like two three hours I had with 340 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.679 it last night and a little bit this morning, so 341 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:28.600 I'm feeling okay. 342 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.600 I uh yeah, I just went through the tutorial and 343 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.600 then I couldn't do any shit else because I didn't 344 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:35.440 have the PlayStation things. 345 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:36.480 I'm like, what do I do here? 346 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:38.440 I think I might have to fully reinstall this game 347 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.000 if that I have other a few games I could 348 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.799 be playing, and I'm gonna go to bed and deal 349 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.200 with I've wasps in my basement, Jason, That's what I'm doing. 350 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.279 Oh no, I think it's okay. I like, I did. 351 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.600 I got the toxic dust that I call it TI. 352 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.320 I got them. It's called tempo dust. They're under my. 353 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.240 Yeah exact, they're in my unright aluminum siding. And I 354 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.240 got like a little bulb thing and sprayed that underneath 355 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:05.119 the aluminum siding. And I'm like, I didn't really notice anything. 356 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:06.799 And then I came in the basement and there were 357 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.559 like four or five seemingly very confused wasps, like what 358 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.559 is going on? And I guess that's normal. They like 359 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.480 when that happens, they the hive collapses and they look 360 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.279 for a place to go, and then they're there inside, 361 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.079 and I googled it like, yeah, those ones are on 362 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:21.839 borrow time. And then I woke up this morning and 363 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.799 they were all dead, So problem solved. I dealt with 364 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:28.920 that instead, basically, all right, let's. 365 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:29.359 Keep going here. 366 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:33.480 Machine Games in ID Software celebrate Quakes thirtieth anniversary with 367 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.759 a brand new episode. This is pretty cool. Machine Games 368 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:39.640 and ID released a Dawn of the Machine, a completely 369 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.759 free new Quake campaign celebrating the original game's thirtieth anniversary. 370 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:48.200 It has nineteen maps, secrets, a new soundtrack, time bending 371 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.720 progression mechanics, and a new deathmatch map. It's available through 372 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.319 the Modern Quake release across Xbox, PlayStation, PC, and Switch. 373 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.240 Switch To plays it via backward compatibility. 374 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.480 Cool, you know Quake on's happening. 375 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.119 I hope that people are like finding a way to 376 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.119 like still be very happy and have good vibes around 377 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.160 that game despite what's happening over at ID with the 378 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.400 layoffs recently, stuff like this It's like, yeah, man, they 379 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.599 just do cool stuff with ID and ID games like Quake, 380 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:23.000 these Matt packs, these episodes they've done for various games. 381 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.079 They've done this for Quake, They've done this for Doom. 382 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:28.559 Such a cool way to kind of keep that community 383 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.480 happy and give them something to dig into. And this sounds, 384 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:34.559 according to a lot of people who I think are 385 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:36.519 like looked at it like very substantial. 386 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.200 It's a neat thing to do, right. 387 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:43.640 It is an interesting sort of approach to add new 388 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:48.119 content to older games, in this case a very old game, 389 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:50.880 but also like Ghost Recon wild Lands and know if 390 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:55.079 you saw that Yesterday is getting a new expansion after 391 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.920 being what that game's what they're celebrating the twenty fifth 392 00:18:57.920 --> 00:18:59.759 a diversity of the franchise. That particular game is twenty 393 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:05.599 two thirteen. Yes, yeah, if memory serves so. I wonder 394 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:11.839 if companies now are starting to figure out this nostalgia 395 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:13.960 thing where they can just go in if they still 396 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.640 have the source code, and keep adding to these older games, 397 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.720 and maybe they can open up this new bit of revenue. 398 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.960 And I hate to sound all cold and corporate about it, 399 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.000 but this is Xbox. I kind of have to be 400 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.759 I think it's really cool for the Quake fans and 401 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:31.400 if it feels like that original game, if it emulates 402 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.240 what they were feeling back when they were playing it 403 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:33.880 the first time. 404 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.799 Great it is also free? Is it free? Yes? So 405 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:39.559 think that that's even better. 406 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:44.160 You either get people to reinstall and start playing Quake again, 407 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.160 or you get people who were curious to begin with 408 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.279 to download it for the first time and play Quake, 409 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.799 which they might have never done before, and that opens 410 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.079 up the possibility of maybe expanding with a brand new Quake. 411 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.599 Maybe that's one of the games in the pipeline. Who knows. 412 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:00.279 I think this is really cool and more company should. 413 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.160 And at the very least, and we've talked about Machine 414 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.039 Games doing this sort of thing before with various d properties, 415 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:10.119 especially Quake. It just keeps them sharp, right, Well, they 416 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.400 just went back Machine Games. The team that's doing the 417 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.119 new Wolf and Stein they did Idiana Jones. They just 418 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.519 went back and made a bunch of new Quake levels, 419 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:18.039 which you like. 420 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.119 It just gets you in that. 421 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.799 Design mindset of like, man, what would be cool for Quake, 422 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:25.519 and it like if that's the team that eventually like 423 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.119 does go back and does something new with Quake. Well, now, 424 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:31.359 they have a lot of experience making Quake now, and 425 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.559 it's it's not like this is fake experience or doesn't 426 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.519 count because it's an expansion to an older game. 427 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:37.759 It's that that's not how it works. 428 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:40.440 This they made more Quake, and it's I think it 429 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.359 will pay dividends in the future. I continue to think 430 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:45.680 this is such a good idea good use of resources. 431 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.599 When you have people that maybe aren't working on other stuff, 432 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:50.839 get them, get them on a project like this so 433 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.240 that they can stretch their legs. They can sort of 434 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.079 like use those design muscles and really be like, hey, 435 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.519 we have a demanding and discerning audio and when it 436 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:02.440 comes to Quick, people who have been playing that game 437 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.119 for a long time, what can we do to wow them? 438 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:06.319 What can we do to impress them? 439 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.319 And when they start thinking in that mindset, I think 440 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.160 it really does challenge them to do something cool. And 441 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:13.759 by all accounts from people who have played all the stuff, 442 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:15.680 I played a handful of what Machine Games has done 443 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.200 for these games, and I've been I was impressed. But 444 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.839 people who are super into Quick seem to really love 445 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:24.200 what Machine Games has done, and I think that speaks 446 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:26.519 to their ability to kind of do anything with any 447 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.480 of these games, but especially if they are the ones 448 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.960 to take on Quake. We'll see what that really means. 449 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.079 And boomer shooters are hot now right Ever since Dusk, 450 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:36.079 I would say, since New Blake came out with Dusk, 451 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.359 that seems to be a rising genre. Again, who who's 452 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.119 to say they don't do this with Doom Could you 453 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.640 imagine a new subsection of the original Doom engine that 454 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.279 would be sweet. 455 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:46.799 Yeah. 456 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:48.839 I want to say that they did do something like that. 457 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.279 Maybe it was Doomed too. I want to Doom Machine games. 458 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.480 I feel like they did something like that, but maybe not. 459 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.440 Maybe it was all quake. All right, let's uh, let's 460 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.599 take a break at Actually, we're gonna take a quick break. 461 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:03.440 Then we get back. We'll get to the rest of 462 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:05.599 these headlines. 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It seemed like an 473 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:39.960 odd decision at the time when when indie publisher the 474 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:43.720 Devolver Digital of Hotline Miami tell us principle Baby Steps 475 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.599 Fame announced it was going to launch an IPO listing 476 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:50.000 itself on the London Stock Exchanges Alternative Investment market in 477 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:53.799 twenty twenty one, valued at nine hundred and fifty million dollars. 478 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:56.960 Devolver CEO Douglas Morin said at the time, and IPO 479 00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:58.799 was the right choice for us to ensure our continued 480 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:02.920 growth and support even more wonderful games today, Game Developers 481 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:06.240 of reports the website Game Developer Reports Devolver intends to 482 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:09.160 dlist and become a private company once more because the 483 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.279 global video game industry has undergone a period of significant 484 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.799 disruption and volatility. It also happens to be the case 485 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.920 that the company's shares are currently valued at just forty 486 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:22.559 five million dollars compared to that nine hundred fifty million 487 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:27.440 dollar IPO. Colossal ninety five point three percent wipeout. In 488 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.880 a statement posted to investors on August sixth, Devolver laid 489 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.400 out it's planned to get delisted from the UK based 490 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.839 Stock Exchange, as well as a proposed return of capital 491 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.200 of up to five million of cash to qualifying shareholders 492 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:43.640 and holders of depository interest by way of a tender offer, 493 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:47.240 subject subject to approval by shareholders. This is a very 494 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.319 different type of language for a company that is best 495 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.960 known for its outlandish stunts, Maverick advertising campaigns and a 496 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:57.440 deliberately offensive fictional CFO spokesperson in the form of Fork Parker. 497 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:00.319 In a far more serious frame of mind, to Volver 498 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.960 explained its rationale for this move to Volver is. During 499 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.519 this time, navigated a number of operational market headwinds, including 500 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:12.119 several impairments of under performing titles, amid an increasingly competitive 501 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:16.759 and unpredictable market environment. As a publicly quoted company, Devolver 502 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.039 has faced the ongoing challenge of delivering growth in line 503 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:25.440 with market expectations despite those difficult sector conditions, resulting in 504 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.759 evaluation disconnect that does not take account of the lifetime 505 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.000 and longtail revenue delivery inherent of the video In the 506 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:35.440 video game business, the company, this is no longer a quote. 507 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:37.480 The company believes it will save one point six million 508 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.480 dollars each year by going private again, and argues that 509 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.000 its current share price, which has plunged to just seven 510 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.240 point fifteen seven pounds I think or no, I'm sorry, 511 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.599 pence wow, Okay, seven point fifteen pence, So that's like 512 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:55.000 ten cents overnight since the announcement. It's and then it's 513 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:58.519 representative of deliverer's actual value. They said, that's not representive 514 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:02.680 their actual value. Excuse me, okay, Jason. This is kind 515 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.519 of where we're at in the industry right now, right 516 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.559 twenty twenty one. The sky's the limit. Why wouldn't you 517 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.279 go public? That's like we are going to grow infinitely. 518 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.519 Everyone thought that, The big companies thought that. The little 519 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.279 companies thought that these middle of the road publishers that 520 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.400 you know are not the PlayStations, but also are not 521 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.559 just like scraping by one game at a time. Everyone 522 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.000 thought that, and then the reality check comes in and 523 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:28.920 now here we are that they have to find some 524 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.640 other way of going forward, and it's like, yeah, going 525 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.519 public actually never really made sense, and that is especially 526 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.480 obvious in twenty twenty six, right. 527 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.200 Correct, and they were riding the high as the article 528 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.759 continues of Fall Guys the year before in twenty twenty, 529 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:50.279 which is maybe number two on the list of COVID 530 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:53.799 games behind Animal Crossing. Yeah, game, I don't think sees 531 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.480 a success that it does if not for COVID. It's fun, 532 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.799 don't get me wrong, but not where it was not 533 00:25:58.920 --> 00:25:59.519 even close. 534 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:00.599 So I. 535 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:07.400 Do understand why they're doing it now. I find them 536 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.400 to be very fortunate to be able to still do 537 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:15.359 this and not just fold because ninety five point three 538 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.319 is a number I expect to hear when I turn 539 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.640 on a radio station, not involving loss percentages for a 540 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:23.799 video game company. 541 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:25.319 So I. 542 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.440 Hope that this works out for them. I hope that 543 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.440 there's something not coming on behind the scenes where this 544 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:35.720 might be too little, too late. But also probably didn't 545 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.160 help that while yes, they published Fall Guys and it 546 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:42.480 became very successful, Epic then bought Media Tonic and assumed 547 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:46.519 all of that revenue, and then other than I mean, 548 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:50.000 Devolver has always made good indie games, Don't get me wrong, 549 00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:51.680 They've been around for a very long time. I love 550 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.559 Hotline Miami. I loved to hate Baby Steps as much 551 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.079 as I enjoyed playing Baby Steps. 552 00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:58.519 I'm sure you could agree with that. 553 00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:03.559 Oh yeah, I understand, But but they're indie games, and 554 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:09.039 indie games, unless they are the breakout hit of the year, 555 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:10.920 have a ceiling. 556 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:12.319 They just do right. 557 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.319 And and when you're specializing in a bunch of ceilings, 558 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.279 one may break through, but the rest of them are 559 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.599 just gonna sit and you're only gonna get so high. 560 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.759 The floor might be high, but then the ceiling is 561 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.440 still there and you just have to work within that 562 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:33.200 house to keep the house metaphor going. I hope it 563 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:33.720 works out. 564 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.119 I do, yes, And it's like the metas changed right 565 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:42.240 where it's like, you know this, Devolver Digital did specialize 566 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.359 in like game ra ass games, and we're gonna put 567 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.279 out some some really cool stuff that has a voice, 568 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.519 and you're gonna recognize that voice. You're gonna see a 569 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.000 game and be like, oh, this feels like a Devolver 570 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.720 Digital game, and then you'll look at the badges and 571 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:55.240 it's like, oh, there's Devolver Digital. 572 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.000 I knew it. And that definitely still has its place. 573 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.559 But if you're talking about an ability to grow and 574 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.640 make money, like you know, you look at a studio 575 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.599 slash publisher sort of situation like Agrocrab, where it's like 576 00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:13.319 they have that the Crab, and they're like they're like, hey, 577 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.200 now we're gonna make a peak this friends slop game. 578 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:16.799 And now we're doing that, we have another one, the 579 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.480 crash Out Crew, and they sort of just have these 580 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.839 smash hits that like suddenly they have a way of 581 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.759 replicating that, and it's like, oh, they found a way 582 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:30.279 to have an indie game formula that doesn't have that 583 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.880 ceiling that you were speaking speaking to. So Devolver hasn't 584 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.759 really seemingly caught up to that, and I kind of did. 585 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.759 I don't necessarily want them to. I want them to 586 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.359 keep doing their thing, and it does seem like going private. 587 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.480 They say, well, enable them to do that, but of 588 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.119 course it's you know, they don't have much of a 589 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:48.160 choice here either. 590 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.240 Right, Somebody in chat. J. Cannon sixty four mentions to 591 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.359 Madacci sold eight million cozy COVID games still popular. There's 592 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.480 a big difference, my friend, between Toe Madocci Life and 593 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.279 a ran new ip coming from Devolver Digital two. In 594 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.319 fact one, Tomodacci, despite being in the lower portion of 595 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.720 the portfolio, is a franchise, right It has had multiple games, 596 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:16.359 multiple successful before. Yeah, yeah, right, not bad two And 597 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:19.240 this is the important one. It has the Nintendo machine 598 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.359 behind it. Devolver Digital does not have the Nintendo machine 599 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.839 behind it, right, So that that marketing, the the you know, 600 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:31.799 you know what I'm saying that Nintendo has the ability 601 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:37.079 to make these smaller, more niche franchises into sales juggernauts 602 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.839 because they also make the system. So these games are 603 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:43.960 optimized for the system that they're coming out on. They're exclusives. Yeah, 604 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.000 it's apples and oranges if you ask me, so, I 605 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.680 get it. I get where you're coming from. But it's 606 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:50.519 apples and oranges. 607 00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:51.000 Yeah. 608 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.839 And I think, like, you know, when we look at 609 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.200 the peaks of the COVID boom that led to something 610 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.440 like Animal Crossing doing very well, it's like, yeah, the 611 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.559 a lot of those people did buy systems and they're 612 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.200 still playing in Tomadachi Life was it's a switch one game, 613 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.880 so that it did a benefit from that. Still, Yeah, 614 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:13.680 there was a marketing sort of manifestation of hey, if 615 00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.480 you're playing a game and you share stuff online, people 616 00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.519 will lap that stuff up. And that did get built 617 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.200 up over COVID and and really has not gone away. 618 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:22.799 So games could still take advantage of that. 619 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.359 Yeah, smaller, smaller publishers, Devolver don't really have have never 620 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:29.319 really had access to that. That's not how that works 621 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.160 for their games. Their games always worked on word of 622 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:35.119 mouth from people who really play video games all the 623 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.759 time and are looking for the next cool thing and 624 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.599 like read game reviews and one know what, like actual 625 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.839 critics are thinking of stuff and say, oh man, these 626 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.839 Devolver games are getting good reviews. And that still has 627 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.319 a pretty tough ceiling for sure. 628 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.440 And if you want to get into where that word 629 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.720 of mouth happened, it happened in game stores, it happened 630 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.440 in you know, friend hangouts. Hey, you see groups, Yeah, 631 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.319 Discord groups. Now all those Discord groups are probably playing 632 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.039 the same live service game. They're playing Marathon, they're playing Fortnite, 633 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.799 They're playing the games that are taking up the time. 634 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.480 All roads lead back to that argument. Yes, I know, 635 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.160 but it's just one. This is one other symptom of 636 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.119 what is a well established issue. 637 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.680 Yeah, when they're uh penny stocks though you know they 638 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.480 don't last long on these stock exchanges, you have to 639 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:21.759 sort of get the back, get the get the usually 640 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.160 have to get back up above a dollar. I'm not 641 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.200 sure how it works in the London Stock Exchange, and 642 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.480 it's it's far away from that in this moment, so 643 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:31.599 they kind of just have no other choice. I'm glad 644 00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:35.000 this is not like and we're shutting down. I hope 645 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.119 this is not a precursor to that or something like that. 646 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.799 I Devolver feels like they could still make a lot 647 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.240 of sense. Baby Steps was really i mean, was my 648 00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:44.720 game of the year, but also I felt like it 649 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:45.720 was a pretty big hit. 650 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.000 Is that Do they need like ten of those a year? Hopefully? 651 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.920 Now, hopefully they could just find them here and there 652 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.559 and then put out some other cool stuff and make 653 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.359 that and make that work. But that is not going 654 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.640 to lead to the kind of growth that the stock 655 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.200 market is talking about. You know, you have to outperform 656 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:04.559 the stock market, right because if you are one of 657 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.440 these things, it's like, oh, this is the problem with 658 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.000 Xbox is they were like, we're still growing, but we're 659 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.799 growing slowly, and it's like, yeah, the return needs to 660 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.720 be much bigger because someone can just go put their 661 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.920 money into you know, a a an index fund or 662 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.640 whatever that gets eight percent you know a year kind 663 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.680 of automatically, and if you're not outperforming that, then what's 664 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.000 the point. You're actually below the average and you don't 665 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.440 make a lot of sense. So yeah, that's always going 666 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.759 to be tough for these companies that don't have a 667 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:34.279 lot of. 668 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.640 Resources to work with. Yes, all right, let's shift over 669 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:39.599 to Hollywood. 670 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.240 The Legend of Zelda, a live action movie may have 671 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.759 found it's Gannendorf. This is from Eddie McCoo at game Spot. 672 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.960 The live action The Legend of Zelda movie from Sony, 673 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.400 Pitchers and Nintendo has already cast its Link and Zelda, 674 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.680 But what about all the other roles? A new report 675 00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.599 claims that Australian actor Uli Ladu Kefus for the TV 676 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.960 series Young Rock, will play the villain Gannendorf. I think 677 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.039 he played like twenty year old or eighteen year old 678 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.039 Young Rocks. 679 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.839 He was the titular Young Rock. Okay. 680 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:11.640 He was like just straight like the like for the 681 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.359 bulk of the story. It was h he was playing it. 682 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:14.119 I'm pretty sure. Yah. 683 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.079 When he was like up and coming, I think you 684 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.480 said eighteen, twenty year old just getting started in wrestling. 685 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:20.519 He was that guy. Okay. 686 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.559 This is according to veteran Hollywood reporter Kyle Buchanan of 687 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.119 The New York Times. He said he's been hearing that 688 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.480 Latsu Kefu got the role, but it's not yet officially 689 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.279 confirmed by the studio. Deadline also reported on the casting, 690 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.039 going on to say he made a multi movie deal. 691 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.920 In terms of confirmed casting, we already know that Bo 692 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.480 Bragason is playing Zelda and Benjamin Evan Ainsworth is playing 693 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.359 Link photos and links from the set appeared to suggest 694 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.680 that Severance actor Dyken Lachman may be playing Empa. 695 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.640 She looks just like Empa. 696 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.680 So yeah, probably we have a follow up story on 697 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.799 that here in a second. But yeah, they've not officially 698 00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.400 announced any of this yet. This stuff is starting to 699 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.599 like get out there with suggest to me, like we 700 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.200 gotta be weeks, months, days away from a trailer or 701 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.160 a teaser something. 702 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:06.720 What do you think. 703 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.079 Let's not forget that the cast of the Super Mario movie, 704 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.760 the first one was announced storing Anintendo direct, so we 705 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:18.079 have that potentially September Nintendo direct time could be something 706 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:19.519 that we could do because that came out in April. 707 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.159 Not skipping that direct, there's no way they don't have 708 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.800 a big direct when that price increase happens. 709 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.079 So there's gonna be something there that has to be Yeah. 710 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.599 So so, and I believe that the first Mario movie 711 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.840 came out April first when it came out, so this 712 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:34.760 is April thirty. If the timing length, so I the 713 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.800 timing links. I just I did that to myself. Oh boys, wow, 714 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.039 all right, but no, but first and foremost, this guy 715 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.639 looks the part. He is a big imposing figure. Although 716 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.880 in one of my slack chats, somebody was like, I 717 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.320 thought Ganandorf was supposed to be an ugly krone and 718 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.440 then he had to be corrected that Tears of the 719 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.960 Kingdom Ganandorf could get it, and it sounds like it 720 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.760 sounds like that's what they're going for here. But then yeah, 721 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.280 I mean I think I think he if he can 722 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:09.880 have this big, imposing Gannendorf, I will kill you sort of. Look, 723 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.800 that's all he needs. I'm sure he can deliver the lines. Fine, 724 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.360 he's not going to be Matt Mercer. Nobody's Matt Mercer. 725 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.440 But as long as he is, you know, like stoic. 726 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.679 And and and calm and imposing when he needs to be, 727 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:23.880 and then psychotic when. 728 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:25.920 He needs to be. If he has the look, that's 729 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.199 ninety percent of it. As far as Ganandorf is concerned, 730 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.599 I do agree that, Yeah, he just needs to be 731 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.159 especially next to Bo Braggason and Benjamin Evan. 732 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.039 Ainsworth, who are smaller, more presence. 733 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.880 Yeah, yeah, Dylan Locke, Dicken Dyke, and Dyken Diychen. 734 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:49.559 I don't know, miss Casey, it does exactly that. That's 735 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.960 one hundred percent perfect for input like she has real 736 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:54.880 shoot elfears. It's crazy. 737 00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.800 Uh, but yeah, I get more and more excited about 738 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.880 this movie as it approaches. I know I'm going to 739 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.440 have to get over the hurdle of link speaking. Everyone's 740 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.800 going to have to do that. He's going to talk, folks. 741 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.880 They're not going to have a silent protagonist in the 742 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.639 friggin movie. Just be ready for it. And once we 743 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.760 get past that, I think we might have a cool 744 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:13.880 movie on our hands. 745 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.960 Yep, absolutely to that point. Sam Neil filmed the Legend 746 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.239 of Zelda role prior to death. This is Sir Matt 747 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.880 Grobar at Deadline. This is one of their exclusives. Earlier today, 748 00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.119 news broke that Australia's Uli Latu Quefu has landed the 749 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.199 villain role of Gannendorf in the Legend of Zelda Movie 750 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.639 from Nintendo and Sony. Now sources tell us that the 751 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.760 late Sam Neil also will appear in the film. Reps 752 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.119 for Sony couldn't be reached for comment, nor could Neil's 753 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.079 former reps. The project, which wrapped in April, will mark 754 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.519 one of Neil's final screen performances, if not the last. 755 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.480 It's not yet clear who he plays. Neil died in 756 00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.199 or died on July thirteenth, at seventy eight. Other new 757 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.199 additions to the Zelda movie include that when we mentioned 758 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.880 Dyken Lachman and then the Handmaid's Handmaid Tales, Yvonne Strahovski 759 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.119 she's gonna play an unnamed queen, so a little weird 760 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.920 unnamed queen. Yeah, like because we haven't seen a lot 761 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:10.519 of queen characters. 762 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:10.920 Sort of. 763 00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:12.840 My camera's freaking now, I think this is uh no, 764 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.320 you're right. Yeah, it's the Wasps, the Wasps Revenge. 765 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.000 Yeah, Max's Bedroom. 766 00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:25.519 Yeah, but Yvonne Strahovsky remind me she was Miranda Lawson 767 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:26.320 in Mass Effect. 768 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.559 That's correct. Yes, that's cool. 769 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.679 Uh, that's a that's a cool pool And she's a 770 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.760 random queen. Now are we have we decided? Are they 771 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.880 following Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom. 772 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.199 I think so we don't know yet, but like, no, no, 773 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:42.639 I think a lot of us are kind of looking 774 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.960 at what little information we have and we're gonna we're like, 775 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.360 they are probably mostly pulling excuse me, from ocker En 776 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.159 of Time and then filling in everything else from all 777 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:55.840 the other games. And then I think this is like 778 00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.639 it would be like a tier list where they're mostly 779 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.400 going to fill in from Breath of the Wie Like 780 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.199 if they have to like fill in stuff visually, if aesthetically, 781 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.440 if they have to like have a character have more 782 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.400 of a backstory, they'll they'll kind of just pull from 783 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:09.159 Breath of the Wild. 784 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.119 But that, okay, that is my guess is trying to 785 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:17.280 I'm trying to slot in where sam Neil could fit in. 786 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.119 I mean, it could be like he could be the King, right, 787 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:20.639 he could be. 788 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.800 The like the king that shows up at the beginning 789 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:24.639 of Breath of the Wild. 790 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.639 Right, he would have made a great happy mask salesman. 791 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.960 I want him to be I want him to be Tingle. 792 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.280 I want to just put that man in the Tingle costume. 793 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.400 Let him just Tingle. 794 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.760 We talked, We've talked about this now, but I link's 795 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.079 uncle from Link to the past. 796 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.960 That's a good idea. Yeah for Sam Neil, that's a 797 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.679 good point. Yeah, that's good. That is a that's a 798 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.599 that's a good call. Chat. 799 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:52.000 I'm now getting more excited to learn about this film. Right, 800 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.480 It's always been there in the periphery, but like ever 801 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.719 since again indor off announcement and now this, I'm like, 802 00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.760 all right, we are within a year. I didn't realize 803 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.199 that we're within nine months eight months of this movie 804 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:03.719 coming out. 805 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:04.679 Let's let's go. 806 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.400 Let's get this big price increase direct happening, get the 807 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.400 cast announced in there, tell us who Keegan Michael Key 808 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.679 is voicing in this one, and then let's let's do 809 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.159 this thing. 810 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.840 Uh yeah, I'm just hearing like, oh yeah, they got 811 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:20.280 that Gannendorf guy for in a multi movie deal. 812 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.400 They have faith in this. They they seem to think 813 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:24.360 this thing is gonna work. 814 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.320 I think they all everyone involved knows if it hits, 815 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.519 it could hit big. This could be a massive fantasy 816 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.960 money maker. And I do appreciate that they are kind 817 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.800 of like just trying to make it as much like 818 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:38.199 Lord of the Rings as possible in terms of the 819 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.199 production where it's like, let's just go to New Zealand, 820 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.719 let's get let's get a handful of actors from Australia 821 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.719 and New Zealand to fill out our casts. 822 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.199 Yeah, that worked for them. 823 00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.800 I look forward to the YouTube channels that will arise 824 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.840 after this movie comes out. Comparing Lord of the Ring 825 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.400 shots and Zelda shots based on the scenery in the background. 826 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.679 Resolutely, there's going to be there's gonna be overlap there 827 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.880 for sure. All right, Take two had its earnings. Take 828 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.679 two sticks to annual bookings. Outlook says it's on track 829 00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.719 for GTA six November launch. 830 00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.960 I think we could figure that out now. 831 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.320 This is from Reuters, But basically the story here though 832 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.920 is like they said pre orders are doing very well. 833 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.199 They were like, hey, pre orders were like started and 834 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.079 they're doing very well, extremely well. They didn't give any numbers. 835 00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.239 They did say that their first the first fiscal quarter 836 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.559 into June thirtieth and netbookings stood at one point three 837 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.199 nine billion, which was a touch above market estimates of 838 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.079 one point three eight billion. A lot of people in 839 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.039 mind were like, hey, grand theft Auto six pre orders 840 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.119 has already made one point three nine billion. 841 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.239 Dollars that's not that's not what that is. This is 842 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:44.119 a different thing. 843 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.480 In fact, most of the money for preordering has not 844 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.440 happened yet, right like that that doesn't get processed until 845 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.840 the game, Like ships from like Amazon or whatever, it 846 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.800 doesn't get processed by you know, game stop and they 847 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.960 take five dollars deposit, but they don't give that money 848 00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.440 over to them until the disc happened. 849 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.360 Right stop doesn't sell games anymore. 850 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.320 That's all right, yeah, right exactly, the Funko pop deposit. 851 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:07.039 I meant to say. 852 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.920 But yeah, so they're like, we're making money now and 853 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.199 then we expect to make around like god, I think 854 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.159 they put it at eight point two billion. 855 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.519 Okay, yeah, here it is Take two set it. 856 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:20.679 It expects fiscal two thousand or twenty twenty seven bookings 857 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.159 of eight billion to eight point two billion. Analyst on 858 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.360 average work expecting that number to be eight point eight 859 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.880 six billion. So it's a little bit under what analysts thought. 860 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.719 That is just take two being conservative. So they can 861 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:37.159 really beat that number and look very strong. So they're 862 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.119 on track to do you know, big things there. There 863 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.480 were some other stuff here. They did talk about the 864 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.159 price once more. Take two defense GTA six is eighty 865 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.639 dollars price calls it phenomenal value. This is from Darren 866 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.880 Bontus at game Spot. While most of Take two Interactive's 867 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.400 games are priced at seventy dollars, which became a much 868 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.519 more common MSRP for new releases from twenty twenty onwards, 869 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.239 GTA six is one of a handful of titles that 870 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.960 will retail for eighty dollars, a price that the publisher 871 00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.039 believes is a phenomenal value for the open world game. 872 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.000 Speaking to investors following the release of Take Two's quarterly earnings, 873 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.639 CEO Strauss Zelnick addressed a query about how the publisher 874 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.480 had landed on an eighty dollars price point for GTA six. 875 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.679 Zelnick echoed previous statements made regarding the value proposition of 876 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.440 GTA six and how the publisher is aiming to over 877 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:25.079 deliver on. 878 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:26.519 The value attached to that title. 879 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.239 Our goal is to deliver way more value to consumers 880 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.360 than we charge them, Zelnick said. The truth is that 881 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.000 the real cost of a triple A video game as 882 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.239 a whole is a lot lower today than it was 883 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:36.800 twenty years ago. 884 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.559 Blah blah blah. The same thing we've heard a bunch 885 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:39.039 of times. 886 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.800 But you know, new games from Take two have come 887 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.639 out and have been priced at seventy dollars, like NBA 888 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.000 two K twenty seven came out or got priced at 889 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.800 least that's seventy dollars as opposed to the Grand Theft 890 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.920 Auto six, which is eighty And I think they were 891 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:55.800 asked about that as well. 892 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.280 Not yeah, I mean Grand Theft Auto is different. 893 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.039 He basically said, we had a lot of prices we 894 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.400 could have chosen for Grand Theft Auto six, we went 895 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.000 with eighty dollars, basically saying be happy it's only eighty 896 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.079 and I think a lot of us are on there, 897 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:09.079 and we know it could. 898 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.000 Have been a lot more expensive. 899 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.079 Yeah, how do you think things are lining up for 900 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.639 this game? 901 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.119 For Take two? 902 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.480 Like, where do you think the conversation is at with 903 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.559 like the average person? Does it feel like, Yeah, people 904 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.280 are just going to line up by this game for 905 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.599 eighty dollars and it's going to be as big as 906 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.239 everyone has proclaimed it's going to be. 907 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:33.360 Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know that it's going 908 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.599 to be industry saving because the problems with the industry 909 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.239 are outside of Takes two's purview. I know people like 910 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.039 to say, Grand Theft Auto six is going to save 911 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:42.719 video games. 912 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:43.119 No it's not. 913 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:44.679 It's going to keep Take two on the top of 914 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.480 the shorts and that's about it. But I do think that, 915 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:54.599 like we here in the bubble of video game coverage 916 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.880 and industry and being so deeply entrenched into it, forget 917 00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:05.920 about the sheer popularity of this thing outside of the 918 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:10.360 bubble with the casuals, to use a very derisive term. 919 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.719 These people have been looking forward to this game since 920 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:18.280 that first trailer. They some of these people may be 921 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.559 a starting a thirty day free trial or no, they 922 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.119 don't do free trials, maybe doing a month to month 923 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:28.559 Netflix subscription now just so they can watch the thing 924 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.800 six hours early in twenty days time and then canceling 925 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.760 it again. Do not underestimate the power of the Grand 926 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.599 Theft Auto fan. They are numerous, and they are dedicated. 927 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.280 They would have come out for ninety dollars, they would 928 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.599 have come out for one hundred. Some of them probably 929 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.000 are coming out for one hundred and more with the 930 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:51.920 Deluxe editions or whatever they are. I think it's one 931 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.039 hundred and what. I don't know what they one is, 932 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.039 I can't remember, but yeah. 933 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:56.280 But yeah, this one. 934 00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.239 You're gonna get the people who haven't played a video game, 935 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.159 who bought a PS five or Xbox at launch and 936 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.480 they play Madden on it, and they play two K 937 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.159 on it, and maybe Call of Duty as well. You're 938 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.960 gonna get those people. There are a lot of those people. 939 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.199 And then you're gonna get people who bought the PS 940 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.920 five at launch for this and it has been sitting 941 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:24.159 on a shelf for six years for this. They they 942 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:28.679 exist and they are coming. Just seems to be huge, yes, 943 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:33.199 and it's there. I just don't see any other way 944 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.239 for it to play. It would be hysterical to me though. 945 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.119 If this game came out for eighty dollars it was 946 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.079 like a ten hour single player narrative. 947 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:40.840 I would miss myself. 948 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.000 But no, as far as phenomenal value, he's probably talking 949 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:48.079 about price versus hours. I expect this a completionist run 950 00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.360 of this game to run what one hundred and fifty 951 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.599 two hundred, And that's being generous. 952 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.679 Right, Yeah, I mean yeah, I think people get a 953 00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.239 lot of content outor a lot of content hot out 954 00:45:59.280 --> 00:45:59.400 of it. 955 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.639 Two ended, and then it just kept going with a 956 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.840 different protagonist for another twenty five hours. Who knows what 957 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.960 the hell is going to happen here, So it's gonna 958 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.840 be It's going to dominate headlines from I would say 959 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.480 November first to Thanksgiving, maybe even Christmas. It's just going 960 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.039 to be the game industry for the rest of twenty 961 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:24.360 twenty six once it launches. And yeah, I mean, it's 962 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:25.320 all really elders to it. 963 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.400 Yeah, I just I'm definitely getting to a point where 964 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.199 it's like, yeah, I see that chad by You guys 965 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.320 act like you're above it, not above it. It's just 966 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.079 like we are so steeped and like this is the 967 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.960 only game that matters. And that's kind of the it's 968 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.239 the subtext to everything that's that is told to us 969 00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:43.280 when we look at any sort of date or anything 970 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.320 like that, or when you do talk to people in 971 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.199 the industry, everything revolves around it. And I think the 972 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:50.679 last I mean, I think Grand Theft Dog games are 973 00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:51.920 fun for a bit. 974 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.320 I don't think they're worth all this hoopla personally, That's 975 00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:55.920 just how I feel about them. 976 00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.400 But it's I'm excited to play it, just like I 977 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.039 am any video game. But that's not the that's not 978 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.840 the treatment that the game gets. It doesn't get the 979 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.159 treat of like this is another video game. It is 980 00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.239 the you know, it's the Jesus, it's the Savior, it's 981 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.760 it's it's the one thing that will not just save 982 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.800 the industry, but it's the one game we're thinking or 983 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.320 talking about. And uh, I I'm not. 984 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:15.679 I don't. 985 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.039 I'm like pretty immune to resenting it at this point 986 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.840 because of that, Like, and Mike was like, God, I'm 987 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.679 so sick of this, and I'm like, I fully get that, 988 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.920 but I'm just like, I do the show and I 989 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:26.760 have to talk about Grand Theft Auto six every day 990 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.159 for the most part, And uh. 991 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:29.280 So I don't. 992 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.280 I don't resent it, but I'm definitely like, I don't 993 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:33.880 have it on a pedestal in my heart. 994 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.639 That's not where it goes. It's just another video game. 995 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.119 To me, because you remember the times when it wasn't 996 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:41.639 on a pedestal, like the first Grand Theft Auto come out. 997 00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.679 Yeah, And I played on Dreamcast at the friend's house 998 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.440 and we were like, I think it was Dreamcast, might 999 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.199 have been something else, but I think we're playing on Dreamcast, 1000 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.440 and uh Like, we were talking to each other and 1001 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.440 we're like, man, imagine if this game was like the 1002 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:54.880 camera was down there and it was three D, and 1003 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.199 we had the whole conversation describing what Grand Theft Auto 1004 00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.079 three was going going to be to each other without 1005 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.360 any idea that they were doing that, and what happened 1006 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.760 was like, that's amazing they pulled off. This is truly 1007 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.920 like revolutionary and amazing. And we felt that way, like 1008 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.239 we felt that way about a dozens of other games 1009 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:13.280 in our time, and yeah, it's just like this is 1010 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.039 one that has done that for a lot of people 1011 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.199 in the mainstream, so it has this outsized effect. 1012 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:19.119 That's all. Listen. 1013 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.599 I'm just happy that one of the largest video game 1014 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.960 launches of all time is going to be led by 1015 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.119 a protagonist who shares my first name. Okay, I hope 1016 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:36.800 he's fully customizable, because if he is, I'm just going 1017 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.840 to self insert myself into this game and see what happens. 1018 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.400 But yeah, it's and I love stress Zelnik being like 1019 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.599 phenomenal valuating what the hell are you going to say? 1020 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.800 No, this this game sucks, don't buy it? Of course? 1021 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:51.840 All right. 1022 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.199 He wasn't done though. Take two CEO predicts that will 1023 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.719 all be streaming our games in three years. This is 1024 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.880 from Rebecca Valentina could the high price of video game 1025 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.719 hardware and the looming thread of further increases is still 1026 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.760 casting a shadow over the future of gaming for consumers, 1027 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.639 and while video game executives generally are not folks you'd 1028 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.400 expect to be particularly fussed about these cost to increases, 1029 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.559 especially if they're profiting off them. The CEO of Take two, 1030 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.840 owner of Grand Theft, Auto of six Studio Rockstar Games, 1031 00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.559 agrees that the price hikes are not a good thing. However, 1032 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.360 he's not too concerned because he believes we're all going 1033 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.599 to be streaming our games on other devices in three 1034 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.320 years anyway. This came from a lengthy answer Give It 1035 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.320 in Take Two's quarterly Earning's Call this Morning by Strauss Zelnick, 1036 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.159 in response to a question about the rising cost of hardware. 1037 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.800 He began his reply by saying that the rising cost 1038 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.880 of the rising price of hardware is not a good 1039 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.920 thing because it means fewer people will have machines on 1040 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.360 which to play games, but that it won't slow Take 1041 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.880 two down as a business because we're delivering experiences that 1042 00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:53.960 people want. But Zelnick continued, let's see here he said. First, 1043 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.360 he pointed out that the world is increasingly moving to 1044 00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.039 open systems, as demonstrated by the rise of PC gaming 1045 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:00.599 over the last time twenty years. 1046 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:02.599 It's been longer than that. 1047 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.679 And then he continued with the advent of streaming, which 1048 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.679 we really do believe is around the corner in terms 1049 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.920 of having something that's a low latency and really works 1050 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.639 well for consumers. Machines that weren't game machines before will 1051 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.360 become game machines. So without regard to what happens in 1052 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.719 the console business, which is of consequences to us, of course, 1053 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.760 we see the overall install based as a practical matter, 1054 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.119 growing materially and if you believe in streaming, to be clear, 1055 00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.320 we really do, and I'm happy to put a timeline 1056 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.800 on it. I think we'll be in commercial streaming mode 1057 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.559 in three years, and by commercial I mean low latency 1058 00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:37.199 that can ten x the effective install base. That doesn't 1059 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.159 mean we're going to ten x our revenue, and we 1060 00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.000 wouldn't project that we would because obviously your aver avid 1061 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.519 consumers already have access to video game machines. But I 1062 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.239 do think it creates great opportunity for titles that are 1063 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.320 broadly desirable, even outside of core markets, and we do 1064 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:52.320 have titles like that. 1065 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.360 Obviously, I will. 1066 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.519 Say like this is like the number one best piece 1067 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.480 of evidence yet that Strauss like who is amidst this? 1068 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.920 Is not someone who plays video games. 1069 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.159 And not someone who plays Grand Theft Auto, cause, like 1070 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.800 what really made like Grand Theft Auto go around? It's 1071 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.239 a Grand Theft Auto online for sure, But it was 1072 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.159 also like the role play servers, which were mods and 1073 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.360 community controlled stuff you had to like install on you 1074 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.519 do stuff on your machine that you owned that you 1075 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.559 could do stuff too. You're streaming from the cloud and 1076 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.920 that is controlled by someone else and you kind of 1077 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:33.400 can't customize the experience. That is going to limit what happened. 1078 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.440 And then the game that does like take its place 1079 00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.559 is gonna be one that you do just you have 1080 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:41.880 full control of. This is not how people have said, 1081 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.280 like with their money, with their time, with their behavior, 1082 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.119 This is not how they want to be playing video 1083 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.880 games streaming over the cloud. And it has been little 1084 00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:50.880 latency before and that has not made a difference. 1085 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.840 No, yeah, uh talk to Luna. Did you even know 1086 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.199 Amazon Luna still exists? 1087 00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:57.639 I forgot about it. 1088 00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.079 Yeah it's there. Google State would like to have a 1089 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:09.320 word as well. Low latency cloud gaming will never succeed 1090 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.239 until the internet infrastructure of the country and the world 1091 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.719 is improved. Now granted, outside of the US it is 1092 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.360 already much better than it is here. 1093 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:24.360 But until. 1094 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.079 Little Timmy in rural Kansas whatever can play cloud games 1095 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.239 the same way he would as if he had the 1096 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:37.480 console in his living room, it's irrelevant. Yeah, none of 1097 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.960 this is irrelevant. And as Jason Schreyer pointed out, someone 1098 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.440 put in chat cool and Colin pointed out in chat 1099 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.960 Strauss said the same three year thing about streaming services 1100 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.320 in twenty nineteen, so he just likes to say streaming 1101 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.360 in three years in the same thing. 1102 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:55.519 They just make him think that, Like if. 1103 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.639 You are an executive that doesn't play games and you 1104 00:52:57.800 --> 00:52:59.519 do all the other medias because I'm sure he reads 1105 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.760 book I'm sure he watches movies, I'm sure he listens 1106 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.280 to music. He's like, well, it'll happen all over there, 1107 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.000 so it's gonna happen to happen here eventually, And it's like, right, 1108 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.000 I think the Yeah, the dynamism of video games comes 1109 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.119 from the fact that they are software that people can 1110 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.360 own on their machine and do fun things with. That 1111 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.079 is why people lean towards PC, and yeah, people pointed 1112 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.039 out absolutely, I've mentioned a million times Rockstar acquired the 1113 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.360 role playing server people, it acquired a lot of user 1114 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.599 generated content aspects of the community. That's that doesn't matter 1115 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:33.519 the like they're gonna they're not gonna be able to 1116 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.199 put like trademarked material in there. They're not gonna enable 1117 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.639 you to like do the craziest shit that you can do, 1118 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.800 and that will still come from the community, and you 1119 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.840 need to own the hardware to really do that unless 1120 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.440 you're gonna like have this PC in the cloud that 1121 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:49.159 you still have full control. If they're not gonna give 1122 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.280 you that, If it's gonna go cloud gaming, it's gonna 1123 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.159 be them controlling the experience. That's one of the reasons 1124 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.840 they want to do this. So the people that care 1125 00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.760 enough to play a Grand Theft auto game care enough 1126 00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:01.079 to own their own hardware. 1127 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.280 And that's not gonna change. 1128 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.639 No, it'll never change. And if this frustrates you, if 1129 00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.880 it really makes you upset, unlike when he's opened his 1130 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.199 mouth before, you have an avenue in which to release 1131 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.920 this stress. You can log on to ww E two 1132 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.039 K twenty six and slam him through a fucking table. 1133 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:19.840 That's right, he. 1134 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.599 Put it, He put himself there, He did it to himself, 1135 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.239 and now you can go in and give him a 1136 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.320 stone close stunner or a rock bottom to your heart's content. 1137 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:35.159 But yeah, it does. It does. Just sound like that 1138 00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.639 normal suit who has no friggin idea what's going on, 1139 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.000 doesn't he It's it's three years from now. We'll still 1140 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.280 be waiting for streaming three years from then, and that 1141 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.679 three years will just keep happening until the end of time. Meanwhile, 1142 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.960 the rest of us will be investing in retro hardware 1143 00:54:55.280 --> 00:55:00.360 and emulator handhelds and playing our favorite games that way 1144 00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.039 because we don't want to deal with you're streaming bullshit. 1145 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:07.039 That's right, all right, we should start wrapping the show up. 1146 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.519 Let's h and that's that's not the poll question. That's 1147 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:13.840 three Fighter explus Alpha music. Let me go over here instead. Yeah, 1148 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.960 I know right, it's a good soundtrack. Okay, have you 1149 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.599 purchased an EA game this year? That's the poll question 1150 00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.159 that we need to catch up on. Yes or no? 1151 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.719 I said no, So did ninety percent of respond It's 1152 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.639 ten percent said yes. I bet that number does change 1153 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.519 when zero Company comes out. I bet a few more 1154 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.519 people end up buying an EA game in that moment. Otherwise, 1155 00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.800 you know, even people who were once super into the 1156 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.920 sports games a lot have checked out, So I know, 1157 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.280 I don't go back to them like years and years 1158 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.400 and years at a time. Maybe occasionally I we'll check 1159 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.079 them out, but years and years at a time, I'll 1160 00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:48.719 skip out on them. 1161 00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:49.519 Uh. 1162 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.679 Janis scrolling through the comments as you say. That's three 1163 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.960 zero company comments comments just in this little scroll. So 1164 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.119 I think you're absolutely spot on about that. 1165 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.360 I mean, that's you know, it's former x Com people, 1166 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:03.559 it's Respawn people. 1167 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.400 You know. I might not have any. 1168 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.559 Love for EA, but I do like Respawn and the 1169 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:10.079 people that are still there. Even though it's like a 1170 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:11.960 lot of people that made the respund games that I 1171 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.400 truly love have moved on, there's still a lot of 1172 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.360 people that are still there and they're working with former 1173 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.800 x Com people to make a Star Wars Xcom style game. 1174 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.079 I will, And that's the rub. Right. 1175 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.079 You want to support the studios, you want to support 1176 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.280 the people making the game, but in order to do that, 1177 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:27.519 you have to play. 1178 00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:28.199 The games for the people. 1179 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:32.320 Yes, absolutely, no new poll question because we have the 1180 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.679 Bomb twelve. Instead, we'll get to that to wrap up 1181 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.159 the show, so let's take care of business otherwise, Jason, 1182 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:39.519 why don't you tell people where they could find you 1183 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.320 on the internet what you have going on and all 1184 00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:42.039 that good stuff. 1185 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.400 Jasonfinelli dot Com on Blue Sky, big Man Finelle on Instagram. 1186 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.559 That's where I am most active on socials. As I 1187 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.440 mentioned at the top of the show, I will be 1188 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.119 reviewing Marvel to Con for Game Spot and Madden twenty 1189 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.599 seven for IGN, so look for that stuff coming out soon. 1190 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.000 In fact, one of those two might have a little 1191 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.719 in progress thing by the end of the day, so 1192 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.920 just keep an eye on that and I will share 1193 00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:09.559 it as soon as it is ready. Otherwise, I had 1194 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:12.719 a bunch of the Magic on Amsterdam stuff. It's happening 1195 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:17.400 that that happened. That new set comes out today. The Hobbit, 1196 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:18.960 I don't know what's going to if I'm writing anything 1197 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:20.760 with that right there, but that's something I'm looking forward 1198 00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.079 to Philly tonight. As I said, if you see me, 1199 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:26.719 please feel free to say hello. Somebody did on Monday. 1200 00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:30.400 We were there on Monday for my Theater Groups show, 1201 00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:33.559 so somebody came up and introduced themselves, said Weaver. Giant 1202 00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.719 Bomb premium member Weaver Weber. I think it's we were 1203 00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.400 introduced themselves, said hello, said love your stuff, level on 1204 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.599 your own with Jeff Grubb. Did it in front of 1205 00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.360 my wife and kids, so now they move. I'm not 1206 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.760 making it up. Yeah you do this. 1207 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:47.719 Ammy brought up to me like it's happened a bunch, 1208 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.519 but like only a couple of times around Emmy. And 1209 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:51.440 it was like one time where we were at Disney 1210 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.320 and she like brought like that was a year ago. 1211 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.840 And she's like remember that. Do you like that? I'm like, yeah, sure, 1212 00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.280 what do you think of it? She said, I like it? Okay, 1213 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.639 we'll get up Mike. My kids were slamming ice cream 1214 00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:05.159 and they're like, what dad has fans. I'm like that 1215 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:09.840 I guess, but you know, Chase go say hide, I'm chased. 1216 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:11.079 That a huge giant bomb fan. 1217 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:16.239 So that happens, you'll hear an explosion from Philadelphia. 1218 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:18.920 That will that will be you'll sign an autograph for him? 1219 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.239 That would that would rule. Yeah. 1220 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:24.239 But yeah, that's that's what I got going on. That's 1221 00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.400 what I'm doing and uh yeah, uh. 1222 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.280 M, fantastic, Like I said, thank you so much. As always, Jason. 1223 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.840 Let's see here uh Geian Bomb still, so we got 1224 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:35.920 some more stuff to do today in a little bit 1225 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:36.840 not too long from now. 1226 00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:38.719 In fact, you don't have to maybe go anywhere. We 1227 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:39.719 might send you somewhere. 1228 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:41.920 But did just hang out on Giant Bomb as we 1229 00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:43.880 get ready for the Giant Big Walk. We are going 1230 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.360 to play some more Big Walk today live. We're going 1231 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.280 to continue where we left off from the quick look. 1232 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.679 So if you watch that, we're going to pick up 1233 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.960 from there and we'll have multiicam perspective. Sean will be 1234 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.079 sort of jumping between all of our perspectives. We might 1235 00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:02.920 have a few friends hop in. Kayla might be there, 1236 00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.159 so we'll see how that goes. I kind of want 1237 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:07.599 to just put her in charge and have her all 1238 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.760 yell at us, because that's the best yeller. 1239 00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.719 Every item you find is about to be punted into 1240 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:14.679 the sea. 1241 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.079 I'm looking forward to it. 1242 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.760 I really had a good time playing this game. So 1243 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.960 two men, let's hang out together. Let's wrap up the 1244 00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:26.719 week nice with that. Okay, let's see so that means 1245 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:31.719 it's time four the Bomb twelve. Everybody, these are the 1246 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.800 twelve games that really matter to people who are really 1247 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:39.480 playing video games. Let's go through here starting with number twelve, 1248 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:41.880 pop it back up on the list Final Fantasy fourteen 1249 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.239 because that is now on switch to I bet it'll 1250 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.679 be even higher next week. Actually, number eleven is Hades two. 1251 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:54.000 Number ten is Pathogenic. Number nine is Final Fantasy seven Rebirth. 1252 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.719 Number eight Big Walk again, that's another one I expect 1253 00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.599 to be higher next week. Number seven is Zeno Blake 1254 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.039 Chronic two. Number six is Beast of Reincarnation. Number five 1255 01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:09.440 is DNSCHA attack. Number four rising on the list is 1256 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:10.639 fox Quest two. 1257 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.719 Next week, well maybe not because a couple of games 1258 01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.000 have come out this week, so maybe not, but next 1259 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:25.199 week you might have a picture of two in the 1260 01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:26.360 top three of this thing. 1261 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.480 Fox Quest two is unstoppable, That's what we always say here. 1262 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.079 Number three Halo Combat Evolve. That did jump a big 1263 01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.400 time from last week. And then number two is Marathon 1264 01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:39.119 Still man, I need to spend more time with Marathon 1265 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:40.880 before we do Game of the Years what I've decided. 1266 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:46.000 And then number one Splittoon Raiders is just a fan favorite, 1267 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:46.960 is what I would say at. 1268 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:49.039 This point for that game. Yeah, people who are into 1269 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.039 it are super into it. A lot of people in 1270 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:54.320 the chat are questioning the choice of picture. Someone need 1271 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:55.840 to explain themselves. 1272 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.360 Alright, listen, that's not me, it's it's all on Jan, 1273 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:00.719 and Jan has his own proclivities. Judge them for it, 1274 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:05.760 all right, everybody that does it for the Bomb twelve. 1275 01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:09.280 Although there's always a new Bomb twelve in the coming 1276 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.360 next week, next Friday, we'll have another one, and if 1277 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:13.840 you want to submit your game for that, go to 1278 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.039 giant bomb dot com. Scroll down on the right you 1279 01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:17.599 could see all the games that are on this week's 1280 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:19.480 Bomb twelve. On the left there's a button that says 1281 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.119 vote here. You click that takes you to the Google 1282 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.760 form you could submit your game. I will collate all 1283 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.000 of that and get it ready for next week, and 1284 01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:29.559 please do so. It's always great to see the hundreds 1285 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:31.800 of people who submit their game for the Bomb twelve 1286 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.519 so we could see what this community is into. 1287 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.400 I always appreciate it, all right. 1288 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.280 With that said, Jason Finelli, thank you so much for 1289 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.800 hanging out on a finale Friday, man, I really appreciate it. 1290 01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:42.320 Always happy to be here. 1291 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.599 Thank you, grub Thank you all for watching and listening. 1292 01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.199 You're the best audience in game and you make it 1293 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.000 all worth it. Until next time, have a good one, 1294 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:53.800 good time, take care of yourself and goodbye.