1 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:06,639 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Christina, and at the time of this 2 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:09,919 episode release, Carmen and I are on vacation mode visiting 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,519 our grandma and the rest of our family in Mexico. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,679 And because of that, we decided to split this episode 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,960 into two parts. So you'll hear Carmen's paranormal portion of 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,920 the episode this week, and next week you'll hear my 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,280 part of the episode. And after this we'll be back 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,399 to normal episodes. All right, and onto the episode. I 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,600 said episodes too many times. Hi, this is Christina and 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,719 Carmen and this is another episode of Speaky Tales podcast 11 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,960 for all things spooky antro crime in Latin America. And 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,159 I tried to work on my intro because Carmen only 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,159 the patron members heard it. But Carmen was bullying me 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 last week. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, okay. On 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,880 today's episode, we have a crazy exorcism story for the 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,439 paranormal portion, and then a very sad but ends with 17 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:02,079 someone surviving with the survivor you know. Yeah so, But 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,560 before we get to our two stories, we do have 19 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:06,359 a listener story and if you want to send a 20 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:08,560 story to us, you can email apok Do at gmail 21 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:11,319 dot com. You can submit it on Discord, you can 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,959 DM it on any of the socials. You can call 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,799 these Spooky hotline and leave a voicemail. Any of those 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,519 are fine. We love receiving them, and we're running shorts, 25 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:22,159 so please send them. Oh no, yeah, I have like three. 26 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:27,200 Usually there's more backups, and so you have three left? Yeah? 27 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:33,120 Oh no, Please send us more stories please? All right? 28 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:35,599 You want to read this one? Yeah? So this is 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,840 from Venissa and we have a location Quell Lakes McDonald's 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 on West March Lane in Stockton. I know they sent 31 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:47,799 this after seeing the Stockton video. I love it. You 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,719 know what, send us more Stockton stories. We love a 33 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,680 two o nine story. Yeah. I actually have driven by 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,239 this McDonald's, so you have. We haven't been inside. No, 35 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:00,760 why want to go to McDonald's. Yeah, I don't need 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,920 They're disgusting. There's better fast food places, you know. Yeah, okay, 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,159 to mention them feeding a genocidal right also that? Okay, 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,280 So this happened in twenty ten and twenty fifteen, so 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,960 let's get into the story. In twenty ten, I had 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,560 started my first job as a crew member at Quell 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,599 Lake's McDonald's. I was so fairly new, so my hours 42 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:26,479 were limited. The assistant manager at the time knew I 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,919 was looking to work more hours, so when I started 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,800 at four pm, she asked me if I would be 45 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:33,560 interested in staying a few hours longer to cover a 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,360 front lobby closing shift. She made it clear what my 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,360 responsibilities were, you know, cleaning, sweeping, mopping, not only the 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,199 dining room, but both the men and the women's restrooms. 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,759 What she didn't tell me was that the women's restroom 50 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:50,400 was haunted. But I needed the money, so it was whatever, 51 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:52,919 and I took the extended hours. It was my first 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,719 night meeting the closing crew, so I stayed cleaning the 53 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,360 lobby and out of everyone's way. Ten pm and the 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,639 doors were already locked by the closing manager. I didn't 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,360 know the lights and music were on an atomatic timer, 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,400 so it shook me when they went off. There are 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,960 technically only three closures by the end of the night, 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,159 the drive through person, the girl person, and the manager. 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,800 Since I was a lobby person, my shift ended at midnight. 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,719 Eleven PM is around the corner and I'm ready to 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,719 clean the restrooms. As I'm walking towards the restrooms, a 62 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,719 loud herring scream from what sounded like a little girl 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,479 came from the women's side. I froze where I stood, 64 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,960 and before I could even process what I heard, it 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,960 happens again, the same little girl scream coming from the 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,120 women's restroom. I didn't move until a closer came up 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,960 to the register and asked if I was okay. I 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,159 didn't hear that. She just nonchalantly replies, what the little 69 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:48,319 girl's screaming? Yeah, she does that sometimes. Excuse me the 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,240 way I would die. I asked the closure to stay 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,560 with me to check the restrooms out, and nobody was there. 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Nothing was there. It never happened again. Fast forward five 73 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,599 years later, a week after I had quit, I stayed 74 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,960 for lobby clothing, retelling this story to the closures as 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,280 they wait to clock in, since we were exchanging spooky stories. 76 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:10,599 As soon as I finished showing the story, the sign 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,120 for the women's restroom falls and it makes a loud 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,279 sound hitting the ground. We all got We all got 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,800 spooked out of our seats and went our separate ways. 80 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:23,160 I'll never forget it. Oh my god, no, no, that's terrifying. Also, 81 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:25,240 I love that they were just sitting there sharing scary 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 stories me too. Yeah, you never worked the fast food 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,600 john did you? No privileged? I'm sorry. I only worked 84 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:38,279 seasonal at Tjmax and Macy's. I was gonna say the 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,480 way you forge connections with someone in fast food because 86 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:45,560 y'all are torrenching or trenches forging the trenches or whatever 87 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,639 the term is, like in the trenches. It's the real 88 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,519 war in America. Like, thank you for your service, fast 89 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,560 food workers. That's who we should thanking all the sides. Yeah, 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,639 that is who should be all the signs, who we 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 should be thinking because it is rough. Yeah, the closing 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,600 shift and restrooms traumatizing. I never had to clean the restroom. 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,160 I thought it was too good for it. But I 94 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,920 did do it, like twice. One time I walked into 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,040 I don't I feel like we've said this before, but 96 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:21,040 I worked at the Chicken Barn in my youth eighteen 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:27,079 eighteen my youth, Yeah, and the yeah, I was closing 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,279 and they were like, oh, I go clean the bathrooms. 99 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:31,839 And I went there and there was just like no, 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,759 this wasn't even closing. It was like in the afternoon. Anyway. 101 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,079 I went in there and there was like a shit 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,000 smeared all over the walls and I were ran out 103 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,120 screaming and I was like, oh my god, there's shit everywhere. 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,639 And I was like, have heaving in the middle of 105 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,360 the and there's too but I can be Yeah, I 106 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:53,600 was packed. It was lunch hour, that's what time. It was, oh, 107 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:56,920 between twelve and noon, and I was like in the middle. 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,519 Oh my, I was like you They were like stop 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,160 screaming that there's like poop all over the walls. And 110 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,920 it was like that's everywhere. A lot just yelling and screaming, 111 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,199 and like so many people walked up and left. Actually, 112 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,879 you know what, I sometimes the Modesto some bread. It 113 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:15,879 will pop up to me and then I will click 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,680 to see what always up. And so somebody posted a 115 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:26,399 thread about the grossest restaurants in Modesto. I remember it 116 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,480 was kind of yes, the Chicken Barn was on it, 117 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,439 and so I told my husband like, how you used 118 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,680 to work there, right, and how we used to get 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,959 food from there, blah bah blah, and he's like, oh, 120 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,360 you should try some time. I was like, actually, we 121 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:39,040 can't try it. I can't do that because it's favor 122 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:42,920 Glosses played this yeah, yep, and they had like details 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,600 about what was gross about it. Something about it was 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,759 someone who used to work there, but and more recently 125 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,600 than you. But I don't remember the years or when 126 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,680 they were there or they were still there and whatever 127 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:55,519 point is, they worked there at some point and it 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,600 was like it been about like employees not washing their hands, 129 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:05,639 like putting their hands in their butts, and hopefully I'm 130 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:09,199 not missed remembering either way, it was grossed though. For 131 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,720 the record, while we had food from there, I never 132 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,680 saw anyone do this. Oh okay, good, Yeah, I mean 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 it's too late. I ate the food, you know, but 134 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:19,959 it was years ago, you know, yeah, so long ago. 135 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,639 Whoever was putting their pans down their butt it wasn't 136 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:27,079 there because I can't see it. I'm not sure. But yeah, 137 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:29,879 it's one of the most successing places. And then raising 138 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:32,720 canes was also on there. Some people said, well, what 139 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:34,800 they said is that their chicken they got it wasn't 140 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,720 cooked all the way. Yeah, but nothing not washing hands. Yeah, 141 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:42,879 I don't know. I think about that sometimes I'm like, 142 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,360 oh my god, maybe it's just stop eating out, but 143 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,959 I can't stop eating out. You know, like some people 144 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,639 don't wash their hands and you can get sick. You 145 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,240 can get happtitus a dysentery. What a dysentery? How the 146 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:55,680 fuck do you pronounce it? A century? No? No, wait, whatever, 147 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,199 second way you said it, I think sounded right. The centery. 148 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:01,000 Is that how I said it? I think so? Anyway, 149 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 that'shit spreading through Borlin right now. So I saw that? 150 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:08,040 Where else? Did I see? I saw somewhere else outside 151 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,680 of the Oregon Trail. They were saying it was from 152 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,600 the unhoused community because they don't have like where to 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,839 use the bathroom, you know, or wash their hands, and yeah, 154 00:08:17,879 --> 00:08:22,079 so that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, anyway, I was gonna 155 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:25,319 add okay, sorry really quick. This story reminded me about 156 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:27,600 how I applied to McDonald's. When I was going to 157 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,079 MGC and they didn't fucking hire me, and I was like, 158 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,240 are you fucking serious? Oh no, same when I was 159 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,120 applying everywhere, no one was hiring. We were there actually 160 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:39,919 at the open interviews together. Oh yeah, we were, yeah, competing, 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,080 they didn't well, they didn't hire either one of us. No, 162 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,919 I also went to open interviews. That's some grocery store 163 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,159 that was like American grocery store. Our friend I didn't 164 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,440 know the names of some vegetables and that's why they 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,039 didn't hire Wow, and he knew apparently, I don't know, 166 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,120 you know, the sad thing. The only reason Chicken Barn 167 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,120 hired me and so fucking disgusting to I know, I know. Yeah, 168 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,480 but they were like, well, we're only look for like people. 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,559 And so the manager was trying to go about it, 170 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,279 avoiding saying what it really was. He's like, we try 171 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:15,559 to look for people that look good up on the 172 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,879 cash register, like they're presentable, they're charismatic. And then boss, 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,080 the owner passed by and he was like, you have 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,240 to be pretty. You can't be ugly up here. And 175 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:29,279 I was like, I remember Jessica telling me about that, 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,440 our other friend that worked there. We yeah, we worked 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,200 at together and it was so fun. I'm telling you. 178 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 We were We went through the trenches together. Yeah, that's 179 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:41,000 real war. And I say that as a veteran. Well, famously, 180 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:44,679 you didn't go to war, so true, true, true, I 181 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,639 only went. We went to go have fun and visit 182 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:55,039 all the countries in Europe. I almost deployed once. Almost. 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,279 Oh okay, I guess we should get into this possession. 184 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:07,039 And that's really yes, Okay, So before we share the 185 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,279 possession of Maria Pisaro. We got this information from a 186 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,480 scholarly I feel like I said that. We're a scholarly 187 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,080 article by the Chilean historian Rene Millard Garvacco, who dedicated 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,559 his life to studying colonial times and the Inquisition in 189 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,759 Chile and Peru. And honestly I stand for that. Don 190 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,120 went through it to give us this. Now I remember 191 00:10:29,159 --> 00:10:31,840 her time about that. Thank you, Don, Yes, thank you. 192 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:38,200 The forty page article is called Entre Angeles Demonios Maria 193 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:42,799 Pisaro elenki Cicion de Lima and it was posted in 194 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,080 two thousand and seven. So Maria Pisaro was born in Lima, Peru, 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:53,360 in fifteen fifty to Catalina Sermigno and Martin Pisaro, a 196 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:59,960 long distance relative of the Spanish conquistado or Francisco Pisaro. Gross. Yeah, Maria. 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,039 I grew up in a big family that included four 198 00:11:02,039 --> 00:11:05,000 brothers and two sisters, but very early lost her father 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,320 and youngest sister Anna. So Maria was raised by her 200 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:12,200 very traditional mother, who forbade her daughters from getting an education. 201 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,159 Because of this, Maria only learned how to sew and 202 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,799 stitch since her mother felt these were some of the 203 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,279 few skills are proper lady needed. Maria's mother did not 204 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,240 think much of her daughter and believed she wouldn't make 205 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:26,519 a good wife or mother. Madia's biggest hater her mom. 206 00:11:27,159 --> 00:11:31,480 Sometimes it is oh, yeah, so sad, sad, so yeah. 207 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,000 The mom didn't believe that she would make a good 208 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,519 wife for mother, so when Maria was an adolescent, she 209 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,559 forced Maria into a convent so she could begin her 210 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,360 life as a nun. That plan never came to fruition, though, 211 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,120 as Maria was quickly kicked out of the convent after 212 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,919 nuns accused her of having a sharp tongue. Love that 213 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,600 for her. Yeah, and she also didn't have the necessary 214 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,960 skills to be a nun, according to the nuns. I 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,039 wonder what those skills are. I don't know. Maybe she 216 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:58,120 could pestivity. I'm not sure. She couldn't read. Maybe maybe 217 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,519 I don't know. So why did it matter? These nouns 218 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,799 thought well to put the historical period Madia lived through 219 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,279 into context. Madia was coming of age a few years 220 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,000 before the Peruvian Inquisition started. The Peruvian Inquisition, which began 221 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:14,879 in fifteen seventy and lasted until eighteen twenty was a 222 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:19,200 period in time where the Spanish crown gave religious leaders 223 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,159 the power to accuse, gather, punish, and torture anyone who 224 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,039 did not follow the Catholic doctrine. The Catholic Church also 225 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:31,240 banned and burned any books that did not promote Catholicism. 226 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:34,759 It was like Latin America's version, and I mean put 227 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,360 on by Spain, but their version of the witch trials, 228 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,960 like the famous Salem witch trials and all the witch burnings, 229 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 like this was their version of it. Yeah. Well, it 230 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:47,919 was around this time that, at eighteen years old, Madia 231 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,720 had her first and nervous breakdown or what they called 232 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,399 it back then, a brain spasm. I have those all 233 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,639 the time. The attack lefters so weak that she was 234 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,440 taken to a priest so she could confess and be 235 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,600 given her last rites. They thought she was dying, which 236 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,519 in Catholicism for anyone who doesn't know, is considered a 237 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,919 holy sacrament a person is supposed to receive from a 238 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,159 priest when they're about to die. Her family took her 239 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,519 to a group of priests known as the Order of 240 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,840 the Dominicans, since her brother Martin himself was a Dominican Friar. 241 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,440 It was this group of religious followers and leaders who 242 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,600 were first exposed to Madia's first demonic fits. According to 243 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,679 the group of religious leaders, when trying to bless Maria, 244 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,600 she began to laugh or scream randomly. The priest figured 245 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,960 this must be a symptom of Maria's illness, so they 246 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,919 brought in a doctor who was unable to figure out 247 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,240 what was wrong with the eighteen year old, which probably 248 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,399 didn't do anything at that time period. Right, this reminds 249 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:47,799 me of when I was reading Kindred and the doctor's like, 250 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,759 we have to what do they call it? A bloodlet? Oh? Yeah, 251 00:13:51,879 --> 00:13:56,919 let's place. Finally, the leader of the group of priests 252 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:00,360 determined Maria must be possessed. There's no other possibility to hear, 253 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:04,200 of course that's the only answer. Yeah. After this, Maria 254 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,679 went fifteen days without eating or talking. The priest took 255 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,480 this as confirmation that Maria was indeed possessed. What else 256 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,840 could it mean? Right, Maria's behavior was so erratic. She 257 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:19,960 began to jump, roar, scratch her face, and move around 258 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,480 the house so forcefully that her own family was unable 259 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 to team her. Desperate for help, Maria was taken to 260 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:28,480 the priest of San Sebastan, who was known for successfully 261 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,159 performing exorcisms. At the time, possessions were an anomaly in Peru, 262 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:35,320 so people from across the country came to view Maria, 263 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,039 the first woman to be possessed in Peru. So I 264 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:40,799 guess she became like a zoo exhibit, not them making 265 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,000 like a little show. Right, yeah, insane, although I guess 266 00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:47,840 to be fair, there wasn't much else to do, right, 267 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,279 I mean, what do people do all day besides the work? 268 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:53,240 There's no TikTok. But people, I heard it back then, 269 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,519 they only worked like a few It's not like today, 270 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:57,200 you know, where we had our eight hour workday. Like, 271 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,200 they worked when they needed to, like whatever they need 272 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,399 to get done, and then whatever. I'm assuming they had 273 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:04,440 their nap time, because that's a tradition from Spain, which 274 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,879 I wish we adopted here. Yeah, and yeah that was 275 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:10,960 only for the lean of for the lowly workers, which 276 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 we would have fallen under. Oh they didn't have naps. 277 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:16,799 I'm assuming that they've there's always been a class of 278 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,120 people that have been forced to work. Yeah, well yeah, 279 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,120 and so they don't get naps. I just thought they would. 280 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:24,960 I thought everything closed down. Oh, I don't know, whatever, 281 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,559 it doesn't matter. Some people love convinced that Maria was possessed, 282 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,799 and others believed that perhaps Madya was suffering from epilepsy. 283 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:35,120 Did they know what epilepsy was back then? Don or 284 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,440 do they now believe? Like, I'm not sure, it doesn't specify, 285 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,759 so whatever. But none of this did much to convince 286 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:44,080 the priests, who were sure the devil had taken over 287 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Madia's body. Soon after, Maria displayed a scarier behavior and 288 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:50,399 was so strong that it would take more than three 289 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:53,440 people to hold her down. One day, while she was 290 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,720 surrounded by the priests, Maria confessed that she made a 291 00:15:56,759 --> 00:16:01,759 deal with the devil ooh, and ranged by her mother's 292 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,440 desician to leave her behind while she took her sister 293 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:08,519 with her to attend cattle in Adequipa on that day. 294 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:11,840 So she left Maria, yeah, and so she was pissed. 295 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:14,799 She just pissed. And so she made a deal with 296 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,240 the devil because she was pissed. I don't know what 297 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:23,000 he's feeling that it's funny. So on that day, while 298 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,000 under a fig tree on her brother's property, she summoned 299 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,720 the devil himself, who appeared to her, dressed as a 300 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:31,879 charming man, as one does if you're the devil. You know. Yeah, 301 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:35,600 he's always well dressed. It's a given, it's a staple. Yeah. 302 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:39,080 The devil offered Maria his services in exchange for her 303 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:47,320 her what soul? Yeah, Maria agreed, and to see all 304 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:51,240 the packed she gave the devil from her middle finger, 305 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,000 a strand of hair and a ring. How long was 306 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:56,600 the hair on her finger and then she was able to 307 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:58,679 pull it off and give it to the devil. I'm 308 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 not sure. Actually, that's kind of the most disturbing thing 309 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:07,359 out of all this. Wow, people, you're right. I'm sorry, 310 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,000 I shouldn't judge. Yeah. Shocked by what they heard, the 311 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:16,000 group of Dominicans, which included Fire alonocon Friar juand Los 312 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:19,559 Angeles and Fire Francisco de la Cruz, gathered with the 313 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,640 group of Jesuits who decided what to do with Maria. 314 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,160 By the end of the meeting, both religious groups decided 315 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,920 they must continue with Maria's exorcism. I can't imagine what 316 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,640 are the conclusion they would ever come to. With everyone 317 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,279 on board, their first exorcism began Friday morning and lasted 318 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,960 till Saturday afternoon. But it's not that long. Only two days. Yeah, 319 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,240 a weekend, Yeah, weekend exorcism. What are your plans this 320 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:51,079 weekend exorcism? The religious men were quickly confronted by the 321 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,200 demons inside of Maria. According to the report, they claimed 322 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:57,359 that demons would take control of Maria and answer on 323 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,119 her behalf when they would ask a question, and they 324 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 would try to feed Maria, she would projectile, vomit everything 325 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:06,880 back out. All of this fell to work, and eventually 326 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,559 the religious men brought in father son Sebastan to help 327 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:13,880 with the extracism. Father Sebastian was able to successfully get 328 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,920 the demons to appear and answer his questions. Next, the 329 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,559 group of men brought in the archbishop, who analyzed the 330 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:23,640 situation and it's dead. Believe Madia needed food, so he 331 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,400 took the weak team to his home and fed and 332 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,559 took care of her. That's kind of nice. Yeah. Days 333 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:32,640 and later, Madia had not recovered, so the archbishop brought 334 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,039 her back home and told the group of religious men 335 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,920 to continue the extracism. He said, nevermind the model, and 336 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,440 this is what she really popped off. After this day, 337 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,799 the group of men performed several extorcisms on Maria around 338 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:48,240 the clock twenty four to seven. They were like, the 339 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,240 devil works hard, but we work harder. According to fire 340 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,240 better than too. He performed the arcticisms for thirty six days, 341 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,000 removing at least one demon a day. That's lot. But 342 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,960 but but somehow Maria was still possessed. It's almost like 343 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,319 maybe she's not possessed way, But how many demons are there, 344 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,680 like in existence in general, like thousands? Oh wow, oh oh, 345 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,240 I don't know. I'm just saying, oh, you're guessing. I'm guessing. 346 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,200 I think so, though I think that there's a lot. 347 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,279 I think you're right. The limit does not exist. Friar 348 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:24,559 better than Toro blamed it on mischievous demons who made 349 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:27,079 them think they had left but remained in Maria's body. 350 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:29,400 I guess that makes sense, Like there's not thirty six 351 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,559 de minuts, it's the same demons that just pretend to 352 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,119 leave and then don't or something that. Yeah, then rather 353 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,440 than thirty six actual demons. Yeah. The desperate religious leaders 354 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:43,200 then it dragged Maria to a church where they believe 355 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:46,200 they'd finally be able to rid her of the demons. 356 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,079 I thought she was at a church this whole time. 357 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,079 I guess, yeah, me too. I thought she's interested their church. 358 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:54,559 I guess maybe she was like in their office or something. 359 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:58,720 I don't know. Yeah, but that didn't work either, So 360 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:01,720 they took Madyat back to her home, where the exorcisms 361 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:05,599 didn't slow down, and the priests took turns conducting exorcisms 362 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,960 and taking care of Maria. At one point, the priests 363 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:12,359 claimed to have exercise at least eighty demons for Maria's body. 364 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,039 They're ramping this number up. Wow, yeah, we went thirty 365 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:18,759 six Yeah right, yeah, one a day to thirty six 366 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,240 to eighty. Interesting. The situation turned even darker when the 367 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:27,160 priest decided to use corporal punishment to get rid of 368 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,119 the demons. I knew it was heading here. It always 369 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,039 does with the Spanish inquisition and exorcisms in general. Yeah. 370 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,720 They began to slap Maria and tie her arms and 371 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:40,680 legs up. This backfired, and in response, Madia would get 372 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,640 more aggressive. I mean, who wouldn't, right right. The Dominicans 373 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,119 then switched it up and tried to use flattery to 374 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,039 win Media's trust and trick the demons inside her. I 375 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,240 like this a little better, more compassionate they gave Madia money, fabrics, 376 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,920 and jewelry, and in return, the demons began to use 377 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,599 the priest answers and identifying who they were, which is 378 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,519 what they need their love language. If love languages were 379 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:05,359 like real, not made up by some straight Christian man 380 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,640 that only applied to Christians, it would be gift giving 381 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,799 or gift receiving, right, and so yeah, I mean they 382 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,160 needed the names of the real demons or the actual 383 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,200 demons to successfully perform your extracism. So all they wanted 384 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,799 was the little gifts. They just needed a little love, 385 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:24,039 you know. Okay, So do you want to guess who 386 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,759 the demons were? No, I can't remember any other demon's name. 387 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,160 I was gonna guess it wrong. Okay, it's fine. The 388 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,720 demons identified themselves as bas Martin and Lupillo Martin and 389 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:40,480 lay Barrabas. I get. But wow, yeah, yeah, Barrabas is 390 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:45,839 a very demonic type name. Like it sounds like yeah, yeah, 391 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,119 what's the other very famous sozo I think is another 392 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,240 one people mentioned a lot you always said, right, that's 393 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:55,000 only the other one I can think? Yeah, Martin and Lupillo, 394 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,559 like so random. Something is not like the others. For real. 395 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:03,680 Barrabas told the priests that he was the leader of 396 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,480 the demons. That makes sense to me, prince among them, 397 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,480 who was telling the demons what to do and how 398 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,680 to act, A real leader, if you will. Yeah, and 399 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,680 they need a leader, right. Barrabas told the priest that 400 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Maria had not been harmed and she was only suffering 401 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,759 pain when the priests tried to exercise her. Wow, imagine 402 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,880 like the ones hurting her, not us. We're just chilling 403 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 in her body. That's it. We're not doing anything wrong. 404 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,519 She's actually more hurt when you try to exercise us. 405 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,160 So just leave us bee in her body to stop it. 406 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,279 She gave us consent to be there. I don't know 407 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:37,359 if they did. I know she did, actually I don't 408 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,079 know at well, well, maybe she did it with the pact, 409 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,759 because yeah, she agreed to the Devil's whatever deal. Yeah, okay. 410 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200 According to the demons, Maria was randomly laughing because the 411 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,519 demons were entertaining, seducing her and giving her gifts. What 412 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:56,000 kind of gifts were they giving her? Actually that sounds 413 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:59,359 kind of nice, does not the gifts of entertainment introduction? 414 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:04,240 You're right, you're right. Later on, during another exorcism, Maria 415 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,640 saw a bright light followed by the angel San Gabriel, 416 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:12,359 the messenger of La Virchin, who with an arrow killed 417 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,799 eight thousand demons. There's eight thousand demons out there. Wow. 418 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,640 Yeah wow. This became a trend, and for the next 419 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,759 several days, mariac claimed that San Gabriel is stopped by 420 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,279 her room and continued to rid her body of the spirits. Okay, well, 421 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480 he's doing his job. Yeah. As the day's passed, Maria's 422 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:32,319 tone change and she told the priest she was no 423 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,319 longer in communication with the devil, but was now receiving 424 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,079 messages from the angels and saints. Verty supernatural, that's what 425 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,720 I can think of. Very supernatural. Oh my god, she 426 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,480 told the priest. Angels have told her she was chosen 427 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,440 by God, which convinced the religious leaders. They are now 428 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,839 in the presence. They were now in the presence of 429 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,720 something holy. They believed her. What if it's a demon's 430 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:58,559 joking though it probably is. Yeah, they're dumb. Next, Maria 431 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,960 told the priest she had received it buying a message 432 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,960 which said Jesus considered her one of his wives. This 433 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:09,000 is why religious. Yes, I'm like, this is when red 434 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,759 flags should have been raising for them, Right, Jesus didn't 435 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:16,000 have wives. Yeah, the demons inside her are like this, 436 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,359 my god. Maria told the priests that the angels and 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,519 saints called upon them to bring her gifts to please God, 438 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:28,960 who wanted to charm Maria. Doesn't sound right, This all 439 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,160 sounds very wrong. According to Maria, she accepted jesus offer, 440 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,279 and eventually she had a vision where they were married 441 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,559 and several saints and biblical figures attended the ceremony. I'm 442 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,480 not sure. I'm not convinced neither. This excited the priest, 443 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,839 who was looking forward to having a closer connection to 444 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,440 God via Maria. This is why they were fooled. They 445 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,039 weren't being who they're supposed to be. They had an 446 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,119 agenda to get closer to God. Yeah, which I guess 447 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,960 makes sense, But this is like a The difference is 448 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,000 obviously the greedy way to go about it, and it's 449 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:06,559 not real right. But for some reason, Maria told the 450 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,119 priest that even though she was married to Jesus, she 451 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,000 still had demons inside her and began to instruct the 452 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,680 priests on how to conduct her exorcisms. Oh my god, 453 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,480 sometimes they a man needs a woman to tell them 454 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,559 how to do it, So I don't see how that 455 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,680 would not apply it to exorcisms. Maybe you're right. The 456 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:29,519 only positive about this turnative event is that the priests 457 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,119 were now documenting everything since they believed they were getting 458 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,160 instructions from a holy figure. So thank you before I 459 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,279 guess not. They were even more convinced when Maria said 460 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,559 God was using her to give the priests prophecies and 461 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:50,079 special powers. Sure know. Yeah. While the group of Dominicans 462 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,359 were following everything Maria was saying, the group of Jessoits 463 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,440 were skeptical of Maria's claims and decided to remove themselves 464 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,240 from the situation. Okay, just with They were like, no, 465 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,559 don't involve us anymore. This is getting weird to weird, 466 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:08,000 and things get even weirder and darker. Oh my god. 467 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480 The holy Man that remained began to act less than 468 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,039 Holy Friar Luis Lopez and Friar better than Toro began 469 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,079 having an intimate relationship with Maria while continuing to perform 470 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,079 your face Sorr. Yet while continuing to perform exorcisms on Maria, 471 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:31,400 both eventually impregnating her. Oh both of them. Wow, No, 472 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,359 fuck them. That's disgusting. This is a woman with the 473 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,079 medical disorder of possession. She's being possessed by so many 474 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,920 spirits she cannot consented to them. Wow. No, I knew 475 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,920 it was going to go there, Like I just knew it. Yeah, 476 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,079 because when does it? Right? In between exorcisms, she continued 477 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,039 to give the Dominicans list of what she needed, which 478 00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:57,480 included jewelry that, according to her, would help her feel better. 479 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,759 Honestly on her side about this, Yeah, yeah, I'm sure 480 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:04,599 she did talk about it. You need Maria Pisaro. In 481 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,160 July fifteen seventy one, Friar Gascon began to have second 482 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,519 thoughts about what he and other Friars were doing with Maria. 483 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,680 Now you're having second thoughts, okay. Many assumed that the 484 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,079 skepticism might have been triggered by the start of the 485 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:21,359 Peruvians Inquisition, which sought to punish anyone who wasn't following 486 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,400 the Catholic doctrine to a t still looking out for 487 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,960 themselves as always, Yeah, looking for guidance or for a 488 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,039 way to clear himself in case anyone accused him of 489 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:34,559 Anythina and Holy Friar Gascon he knew he was doing 490 00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:38,079 something wrong. Friar Gascon sent a letter to the bishop 491 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,920 and an inquisitor explaining everything that had happened in the 492 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,759 last three years and named everyone who was involved. Switch 493 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:50,960 Switch three years right. The inquisitor launched an investigation, and 494 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,839 by October fifteen seventy one, the inquisitor told Friar Francisco 495 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,759 de la Cruz he was not allowed to get near Maria, 496 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:01,039 so the investigation was done. You know what would be like, 497 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640 what I feel like happened here is that they weren't 498 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,039 even looking into them until they snitch on themselves, and 499 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:10,279 then they were like, let's investigate them. Oh I'm sure, yeah, 500 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,759 they got themselves caught up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Financisco. The 501 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,759 Lacruse did not listen and visited Maria to tell her 502 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,640 what to say and to not tell the investigators. Two 503 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,440 months later, investigators decided to arrest the Lacruse, the Toro Gascon, 504 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,799 and after speaking with the three, the investigators decided they 505 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,119 would also arrest Maria. Pedro De lasted three years in 506 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,200 jail before he died of illness. Alanto Gascon, on the 507 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,319 other hand, served more jail time and was tortured when 508 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:45,759 inquisitors felt his apology was not genuine. Okay, Friar Luis 509 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,319 Lopez was found guilty and sent back to Spain and 510 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:53,920 prohibited from receiving confessions from women. Okay, well, okay, that 511 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640 sounds fair. Yeah. Francisco de la Cruz was handed the 512 00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:00,680 worst punishment. He tried to defend himself and in the 513 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,440 process lost his mind and said he was a new 514 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:08,799 prophet sent to Earth to help spread Mariia's messages. Okay, 515 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:13,400 but what if it was true? Right about that? He 516 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,480 was sentenced to be tortured, and when he refused to 517 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,480 say he was wrong, he was burned alive. Maria, on 518 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,279 the other hand, collaborated with the investigators and told them 519 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,000 everything she went through was true. She told them she 520 00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,680 couldn't remember anything that happened because when when she spoke 521 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,759 with the Devil and angels, she would go into a trance. 522 00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:35,519 Therefore she couldn't be held accountable, which makes sense to me. Yeah, 523 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,720 of course. She was sentenced on June first, fifteen seventy three, 524 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,480 after admitting to having a relationship with the devil. Wow, 525 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,599 who else can say that? You know? No, right, everyone 526 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,480 else who danced with him, they just danced with him. 527 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,799 They didn't have a relationship, but you know, you know 528 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:55,000 that was her writer die Wow or his writer Die 529 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,599 I'm not sure. Was she the writer or die I'm 530 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,559 not sure. So yeah, it doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. 531 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920 The Church took all of Maria's belongings. She was sentenced 532 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,880 to Gel, where throughout the following years she expressed regret. 533 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:14,559 She died inside Agel in December fifteen seventy three, at 534 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:19,559 the age of twenty three. Young. Wow, that was wild. 535 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160 That was wild too many all the way, And you 536 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,519 know what, I think she was wrongfully imprisoned here. I agree, no, 537 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:31,000 but really in a like serious manner. The Spanish inquisition 538 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,160 was just like one a way to you know, control 539 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,480 right people obviously, but also like people that ended up 540 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,319 like stuff. In the most was like she was probably 541 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:45,000 not really possessed, right, and she was probably just you know, yeah, 542 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,119 going through it mentally, and then she's accused of all 543 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,039 these things, and then then she had to get advantage of, yes, 544 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,920 and then during all those things she's taken advantage of 545 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,920 So yeah, of course she's not going to come out 546 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,279 get to go after this looking at her making her 547 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:04,920 look more possessed. Yeah, so yeah, but man, that was 548 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:09,359 that was wild. Yeah. 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