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Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven winners, Color Joy Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, Me,

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Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well

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today it's our just do It show. That's right, Just

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do it suggestions of things you should do in your

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garden or landscape. And I guess I'll say right off

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the top. Subscribe to the Gardening Simplified Show podcast and

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YouTube channel. And thanks for listening to the radio show

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version of the show. Here's one for you. Stacy, use

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mulch and groundcover under trees instead of grass. I was

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looking at a Purdue University study about how much water

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a large mature tree pulls out of the ground on

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a daily basis in summer. Amazing. So trying to grow

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grass under trees isn't good for the grass, isn't good

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for the tree, and isn't good for you. It can

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be frustrating.

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Speaker 2: And your lawnmoweruse you got all those surface roots that

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you're trying to go over and you're nicking it, and

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that's not good for the blade. It's a lose lose situation.

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I actually had a someone asked me the other day

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what they should do because they had tree roots in

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a lot of shade, which is already a combination for

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you know, difficult to grow grass, but it had a

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lot of traffic, and I sold her to just put

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in a path of rocks and you know, like stepping

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stones or something like that. It's it's a tough situation,

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but yeah, definitely mulch parklike or groundcover if you can

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put it. If you can, you know, plant them with

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the tree roots, because sometimes the tree roots are so

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surface heavy and so dominant that it's very difficult. But

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it's a challenging situation. On the bright side, you have

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a mature tree.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so put mulch underneath it. It's healthier for the tree.

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You don't want to grow grass right up to the

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trunk damage it with lawn equipment. There's one there's a

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difference in genetics of proven Winner's annuals compared to other,

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let's say, non branded annuals grown in flats from seed.

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There's a big difference. And when I'm working in the

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greenhouse at this time of the year, I always tell

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people Supertunias Salvia's verbena. Stacey just do it because there

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is a big difference for me working in the garden

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center industry, the typical garden center weekend customer. We like

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to think that they're thinking about the new cultivars that

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are out there and the various cultivars that they can

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choose from. The reality is what's on their mind, and

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when they verbalize it is one, will the deer eat it? Two?

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How much is it? Three? Where's the restroom number? Four?

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How late are you open?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it's your people are always I feel like

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most people are very overwhelmed at the garden center and

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they just want simple answers. You know. I do think,

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you know, having grown them and grown the knockoffs at

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times when I couldn't find the proven winners that I wanted.

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And a great example for any garden center who's listening,

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I can't find Vermillionaire kufia anywhere this year. Yeah, my

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favorite proven winner's plant far superior to the similar varieties

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of kufia that one garden center was selling, just kind

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of a generic. And I've grown that one for years

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and it's not as good as Vermillionaire because it doesn't

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have the investment in R and D. It's still a

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good plant and by all means grow it. But know

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that that extra cost with the proven winners has gone

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into the R and D to make sure that you

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have a better experience, that your plants last longer, bloom longer,

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are lower maintenance. So it really is worth it, and

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especially if you're not a confident gardener, it's kind of

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a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, and you're so right. The R and

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D behind these plants is what helps sure success in

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your landscape. Assess the amount of time you're willing to

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invest in caring for your garden. Choose plants and designs

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that match your maintenance capabilities.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense, Well, yes it does, except that your maintenance

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capabilities largely depend on your plant selection capabilities. Because if

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you're picking the right plants for your area, for your conditions,

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sure they're generally pretty low maintenance. You know, some things

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like you might say, oh, you know, Rosa Sharin for example,

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drops a bunch of flowers, you know, after they're done,

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and maybe that to you is maintenance. Personally, I just

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leave them there to dry out and blow away. Don't

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really lose any sleepover it. But some people they like

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to keep a very tidy you know area and not

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have all of those around. So to them, rosa share

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might be a high maintenance plant, but it's all in

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citing it properly. And I guess having reasonable expectations of

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what you think is maintenance, because I'll tell you I

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can let a lot of stuff slide in favor of

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other garden tasks. That's just me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Here's one for you. Just do it.

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Get to know what the plant's habitat or native habitat

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is like. Now, I'm not talking about identifying what country

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or what state or what area of the country a

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plant comes from, not the geographical place. I'm talking about

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the habitat. I have often said this to people trying

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to grow houseplants indoors. You have the dry air, indoors,

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lack of light. Let's think about where this plant comes

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from and what it likes. I'll throw a couple of

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quick examples out there. We've received comments from viewers and

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listeners about river birch. The tree likes to grow along

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stream beds or river beds, and you put it out

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in the middle of a yard grow grass right up

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to the base. You may struggle with that plant or

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another example I remember years ago, let's say early nineteen nineties,

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in the garden center industry, Fraser fur became a super

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popular Christmas tree. Yep, fragrant needle retention straight. Only about

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three percent of the trees being grown, let's say in

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our state here, Michigan, were Fraser furs. Now, these are

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trees that like the if you think about the Appalachian Mountains,

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you think Tennessee, North Carolina, humidity, some fog, moisture upper

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levels of the mountains, plenty of rainfall, especially in summer,

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let's say, and you put that out in the middle

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of Michigan with a hot summer, it's going to be

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difficult to grow. Growers had to adjust. Now Fraser fur,

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many of them are grown in Michigan for the Christmas

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tree industry. The point is understanding what the habitat or

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environment of a plant is in order to better grow

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at yourself in your yard.

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Speaker 2: It gives you so much information. And I think this

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is especially useful if there's a plant that you love

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and it keeps dying and you keep trying to grow it,

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you know, spend that extra time to look where it's from.

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know Fraser firs from Tennessee. Well, Tennessee actually has quite

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a diversity of climate, so you need to know, you know,

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what is it like where this plant grows native? So

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it's not so much about oh it's native to Tennessee

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there for whatever. In Michigan, you have to understand the humidity,

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the temperature extremes, how long the winter lasts, how long

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the summer lasts. And there's a lot of things that

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I think you can use your imagination to extrapolate from

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a little deep dive into that kind of information.

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Speaker 1: You bet you, Okay, Stacey, just do it. Find ways

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to make watering easier in your landscape. You're going to

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have more fun and your plants are going to appreciate it.

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And for our podcast and radio listeners and for our

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YouTube viewers, I'm practice seeing what I preach because you

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convinced me to get a hose link hose and I

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did it.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice. Well, you know what, I will take that

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concept one step further and say that whatever your least

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favorite garden shore to do is invest in making it easier. Yeah,

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so it is for me watering as well. Fortunately, my

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husband likes to water, so I'm winning there. But even

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just having a hose reel made a huge difference, because

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you know, dealing with hoses is not fun. So you know,

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I love weating, but I still like to save weeding

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for when it has just rained, so I'm not working

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so hard at it. You know, good weather, you don't

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want to be out there in the blazing sun. Any

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job you dislike. Look for invest in tools, think about

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ways that it can be easier and a little less

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you know, punishing feeling.

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Speaker 1: Sure, just do it. If you want to have some

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turf area in your landscape, and that's fine, and that's great,

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raise the deck on the lawn mower, sharpen the blade,

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raise the deck, more leaf surface area, if you want

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to use less inputs, chemicals, that sort of thing. Raise

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the deck as high as you dare go on your

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turf and it's going to make a world of difference.

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Just do it. Be out there gardening in the fall,

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not just spring. Yeah, we'd control putting plants in the ground,

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caring for plants. I think it's so super important. I'm

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one of these people who thinks the garden center should

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be as busy in the fall as they are in

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the spring. But that's not the case. Everybody's watching football.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're a little busy in the mom section, but

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outside of the mom section, there's a lot of good

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use to be had out there that people are just

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not even bothering to explore because they don't think it's

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planting time.

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Speaker 1: We have so much more coming up for you in

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segment four. Just do it. Let me give you this

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week's limb a rick things to do. They're legit, I do.

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I'm no hypocrite. Experience is a cruel teacher. Not that

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I want to feature mistakes. I don't want to admit.

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So come on, just do it. There's nothing really to it.

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Some plants I have killed, which in turn made me

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skilled embarrassment. I outgrew it.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break on the other side, we'll

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find out what Stacey has to say in this week's

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welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we are

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talking about what you should do just do it in

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the garden. And we have not mentioned that this is

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a part one of two show because next week we're

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going to to be talking just don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. So Stacy's favorite phrase, I mean, I hope.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't come across as too negative, but that's like

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my general one, you know, one takeaway for gardening when

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it comes to plant maintenance, pruning, especially when in doubt,

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just don't.

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Speaker 1: I got a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, I can't wait. So next week we're

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talking just don't do it, but this week we're talking

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just do it. So we're talking about the things that

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maybe people hold back on doing in their garden, or

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they're not sure if it's a good idea, or you know,

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there's just there's a lot of trepidation out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So for example, as long as we're talking about

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programming notes, the following week, we're going to talk about

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deer Ooh.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I will try to control my rants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some people, for example, feed the deer in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Please don't don't do it. Do not do it. I

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see it all the time. Me crazy, But what can

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you do? You would think that they were well fed

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enough on my garden, but apparently not in any case.

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So all of today we're Dohl. In this episode, we're

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talking about things that you should do. And so when

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it comes to plants on trial, I mean, of course,

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the whole notion of plants on trial is that you

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should plant them if they work for your situation. So

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how would I pick just one? So instead I'm going

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to share a tale of personal experience and some plants

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suggestions on something that you should just do, and that

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is plant a hedge.

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Speaker 1: So this will be edal.

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Speaker 2: Now you may not need a hedge, in which case,

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of course, don't plant a hedge. But if you move

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into a new house, or you have things change around

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your house, which is happening a lot right now with

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all of the crazy development, you can get maybe a

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new neighbor to move in who doesn't maintain their home

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as nicely as the previous one, and you suddenly want

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to block out that view. I mean there's all sorts

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new construction, a new to you home. And that is,

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if you think that you are going to want a

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hedge at this house, do it sooner than later. And

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and you know, didn't have a lot of experience. Of course,

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I had gardening experience, but I just didn't have this

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kind of like living in one place for a long

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time experience. And in my neighborhood a lot of people

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have fences. So one side my yard was fenced. My

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neighborhood put up a fence for his yard. Eventually, on

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the other side, my neighbors put up a short fence

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just enough to keep their dogs in, so not really

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a privacy fence, but you know, delineates the space between

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my yard and theirs and they can keep their dogs in.

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But the back edge had nothing. And we knew when

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we moved in that we were going to want something that,

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you know, we were going to want some privacy from

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there because it exposes us to actually three different neighbors

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because of the way our block is built, and we

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didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I should have been invested in a hedge fund.

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Speaker 2: No, we did eventually do it. But this is eight

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years into living in our house. And by the time

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you're planting that hedge that you should have planted eight

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years prior, you're like, well, gee, if only I had

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planted the hedge when I knew I was going to

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need a ding dang hedge, then I would already have

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it and I'd have the privacy. What could I wanted

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a ding dang hedge? I got that from my colleague Natalie.

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That's her uh. It's her little Yes, that's her little oath,

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her little uh. Yeah, And it's a fun one to say.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a hedge statement.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So I wish that I would have just realized

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that this would be such an important part of my yard,

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and then I would have just done it early on,

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because the earlier you plant this hedge right, the sooner

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you're going to be able to get its benefits. Because

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when you plant a hedge, it's typically shrubs, you know,

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evergreens or deciduous and we'll get into some plant selection

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ideas for hedging, but it takes time for them to grow,

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and even if you're getting a fast growing hedge, you're

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still looking at your standard. You know, first you got

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to get through years one through three sleep creep leap.

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not do anything noticeable, just put roots down. Second year

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it's going to creep grow a little tiny bit. By

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the third year it's going to start leaping, but you're

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not really going to get optimum growth rate until probably

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year five, and you don't want to spend those five

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years looking at whatever you're trying to screen off.

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Speaker 1: Sure it's true the old Chinese proverb best time to

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plant a tree was twenty years ago. Next best time.

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Speaker 2: Is today, right, So if you haven't already, not just

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do it now like I did. But you know it was.

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It was a real lesson for me because there are

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a lot of things that looking back, and of course hindsight,

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it's always twenty twenty I wish I would have done now.

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what to pick for your hedge plant, and a lot

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of people automatically, I think when they think of hedges,

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they're thinking of evergreens. They're thinking most likely of arborviting,

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which of course is out of the question for people

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like you and I with deer juniper, which I did

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end up going with because I wanted an evergreen hedge

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and I needed something that was deer resistant. But you've

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got you, You've got boxwood, you've got hemlock. If you're

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in a warmer climate, you can plant a bunch of

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really cool broad leaf evergreen hedges like Photinia Camellia, rafaelepsis, raffaelepsis,

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Japanese holly and get kind of the best of both worlds,

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you know, flowers and that year round coverage. Now that

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if you want to plant a deciduous hedge, a hedge

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that's going to lose its foliage, this gives you the opportunity,

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especially in a colder climate like this, to actually have

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a flowering hedge. So what I think of when I

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think of a deciduous hedge one of the most popular

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hedging plants of all time limelight hydrangea, And what a

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gorgeous hedge it makes. It is truly sunning. Now, of course,

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the trade off here is that limelight Hydrangea is not

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going to have any foliage in the winter. But you know,

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if you live in a cool climate, that might not

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be that big of a deal because you're not outside anyway.

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Speaker 1: And it all goes back to determining what is the

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purpose of the head. Now you go right and if

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it's just to create a room a space for summer

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when you're out there, Deciduous is great. If you're trying

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to block out the neighbor next door.

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Speaker 2: You need that evergreen type of hedge. So you know,

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there's a number of options. So I think when you're

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thinking about how you're going to plant this hedge, you

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first of all need to think, what is it that

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I want out of this hedge. Do I want the

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fabulous limelight flowering hedge that looks amazing in you know,

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July and August, but it's going to be kind of

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bare and you know, maybe a little bit later to

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leaf out in spring, so you have to consider that

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spring cover as well. Or do you want to invest

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in evergreen? Now, generally speaking, a lot of evergreens are

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going to be more slow growing than a lot of

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deciduous plants. Now, there are certainly some fast growing arborvid

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like green giant, which will easily grow, like, you know,

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almost four feet a year once it's established. But it

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really lives up to the giant part of its name

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in that it is taking up you know, a good

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twelve to eighteen feet at the base, So that is

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twelve to eighteen feet of your yard space that are

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just being surrendered to this very fast growing evergreen.

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Speaker 1: It's going to beautiful and deer resistant or more deep.

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Speaker 2: Somewhat deer resistant. Yeah, and so that's something you need.

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You know, you can't just go to the garden center

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and say, okay, well here's an arborvity, it's cheap, it's

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good for hedging. This is what I'm going to do,

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because you do need to think about how is this

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going to impact the overall space in the yard. Once

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you've chosen your plants, figuring out the spacing is actually

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very easy. You just look at the width that is

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on the tag and if there is a range. I

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always recommend going with a smaller range for a hedge,

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especially if you live in a colder climate like this,

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because they'll be closer together and they're gonna have a

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shorter growing season, so they're not going to grow as

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much during each year as they would in a warmer climate.

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want to save a couple bucks, you can go with

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a larger one, but just be aware that you're going

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to be waiting a lot longer for it to fill in,

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and it's not going to turn into a wall. Those

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higher end estimates of width are actually going to kind

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of just let the plants just touch, you know, so

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you won't get that nice dense wall if that's what

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you're going for. So you take that lower number, you

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divide it in half. So let's say it's three feet,

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and you take that one and a half feet that

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you've divided it in half. You space your two end

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shrubs either end one and a half feet from the

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end of the bed one and a half feet in

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from the edges of the bed on each sign. Then

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you've got the middle pieces. You can me sure that

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and see what you're dealing with. Now I will tell

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you I kind of eyeball this part. I've been planning

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a lot of hedges lately, so you know I know

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this because you can't totally stick to the to the

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spacing the math. Okay, okay, because it may not. Depending

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on how much space you have, it may not work

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out evenly. You can't plant half a shrub or a

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quarter of a shrub. So I generally will go with

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one extra plant position, one in the center, and then

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I just kind of visually do the rest. I like

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to plant hedges like I do most plants odd numbers

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because that will give you kind of a more natural,

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less formal looking hedge. I have a lot more tips

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on planting hedges, but the main thing you need to

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know about planting a hedge, if you're thinking about it,

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just do it. All the information will be in our

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show notes, along with a link to some proven Winter's

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where you live. We're going to take a little break.

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When we come back, we'll be opening up the garden

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mail bag, so please stay tuned at proven Winner's Color

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Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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While we were on break, Rick came up with a

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very helpful tip that we wanted to share with you.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to suggest that if you want

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a new hedge in your yard, you just go in

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the backyard and you make it a habit of gardening naked.

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Eventually your neighbor will put the heads up.

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Speaker 2: For you, if they haven't called the police first.

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Speaker 1: Just a thought.

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Speaker 2: So there's something, some wise words from Wrick that you

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can consider if you've been wanting aheadge but don't want

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to invest the time, energy, over money in doing so.

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Before we get into the mailbag in today's theme of

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just do It, I wanted to share a book recommendation. Okay,

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not something we usually do, but I am really excited

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about this. So the name may be familiar to Douglas Tallamy.

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He is sort of the leader of the backyard environmentalism movement,

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where you can actually use your garden and landscape and

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yard to help conserve nature and wildlife, and his books

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Bringing Nature Home and Nature's Best Hope have been best

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sellers and gotten a lot of people into native plant gardening,

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which is amazing. And he has a new book out

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which I thought was perfect for just do It. It

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is called how Can I Help Saving Nature with Your Yard?

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And so I love that this is so action oriented

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because he's a wonderful writer, very inspiring and definitely gives

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a plan of action in his book. But I mean

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a lot of people, you know, it's it can be

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hard to get started questions and answers about how you

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can manage your yard and garden to better support wildlife.

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And if there is one thing that I would say

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just do it, it would be to you know, as

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you continue to grow your gardening hobby or you know,

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change things in your landscape that you do make choices

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that are more supportive of wildlife, of insects, of birds,

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whatever that plant choice may be, whether it's a shrub

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or a perennial or a tree, that we make choices

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that are about something beyond ourselves. And it's not a

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sacrifice because a lot of those plants are every bit

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as beautiful as whatever left to your mind.

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Speaker 1: First, Yeah, here here, I mean it's exciting when you're

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working in the garden and hummingbirds are buzzing past you

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and hear hear the birds, singing bees active on a plant.

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There's nothing like it.

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Speaker 2: It's my absolute favorite thing. So just do it. Douglas

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Telemy's new book, How can I help?

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Speaker 1: Great suggestion? Linus writes to us, I have a young

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river birch tree that was planted in twenty twenty three.

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I believe it's not doing well, lots of empty branches.

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How would you approach this or is it too late?

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And thank you well, thank you very mulch Linus for

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your question. Yes, this is timely.

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Speaker 2: This is very timely. And Linus did send some pictures

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so you can check those out on YouTube or in

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our show notes. And I think we've got a twofold

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problem here number one. And you mentioned river birch in

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segment one when we're talking about you know how it

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is native to a very different kind of environment than

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our average front or backyards, especially out here where it's

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so sandy. I have heard people say, respected horticulturists say

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you cannot overwater. A river birch, now this may be

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one of the very few plants that that is actually

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true of. But the thing that you need to know

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about them is they need a a ton of water.

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And I have seen one on my street out here

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that was installed when they were doing a bunch of

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street tree planting and they put those water gators on it.

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You can zip a couple of them together if you

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have a multi stem, because most river birches are multi stemmed.

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And I do want to clarify here if people aren't familiar,

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So a river birch is not that classic white birch

473
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that everybody loved and went crazy for in the seventies

474
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and eighties. A river birch is much more tolerant of

475
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some of the diseases and cultural conditions that make growing

476
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,000
paper birches difficult for a lot of us. It is

477
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still a native birch.

478
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Speaker 1: Look for the botanical is it betula.

479
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Speaker 2: Nigra yep, yep. And it has peeling bark that is,

480
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,359
the older it gets, the more peeling it gets, and

481
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has all these layers with different colors and orange and cream.

482
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It's just it's a very cool plant. But so it's

483
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,640
becoming it's increasingly replacing paper birch because paper birch gets

484
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:57,039
very stressed in residential situations. As things have gotten hotter,

485
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it's gotten stressed. It gets the bronze birch, and if

486
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:02,319
it gets that, that's pretty much the end of it.

487
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,759
Whereas river birch is, you know, doesn't have all of

488
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these liabilities.

489
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Speaker 1: I believe heritage is the cultivar a.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the Fox Valley is another one that's

491
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:15,000
very very popular. Yeah, but this one on my street

492
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,640
is looking very much like Linuses in that all the

493
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,920
branches are dying because once they took off those gators,

494
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,920
those tree gaters to water it, it just did not

495
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,279
get any water and immediately started to suffer because they

496
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didn't have any irrigation.

497
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Speaker 1: So it is my neighbors and he planted it right

498
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,440
in the middle of the yard, and I told him

499
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to water it because it was suffering. Yeah, And he

500
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put a hose on it and ran a sprinkler under

501
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
it for days on end and it recovered.

502
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 2: It's that's how serious it is. The Other thing about

503
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:46,319
Linus's tree though, and Linus, if a landscape company came

504
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,839
and planted this tree for you, I would definitely give

505
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them a call because they did not plant this tree properly. So,

506
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as you can see in the photos that Linus sent

507
00:26:55,079 --> 00:27:00,279
this River birch, the bottom of the three trunk that

508
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,079
it has goes right into the ground like a phone

509
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,880
pole instead of flaring out gently like a tree ought to.

510
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,920
So this tree was also planted way too deeply. And

511
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,400
that's really a crucial thing because that area of the buttress,

512
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,960
that flared area at the base of the tree is

513
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,960
crucial for gas exchange, so it helps the tree exchange

514
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,240
carbon dioxide and oxygen, very very key for its survival.

515
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,759
So if you did not plant this, I would definitely

516
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,799
call the landscape company that planted it and tell them

517
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:33,759
that they planted it too deeply, because I'm sure that

518
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:38,440
that is contributing to the unhappiness of your tree. If

519
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,960
you planted it and you can't do anything about it,

520
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:43,640
then what I would do is just clear away the

521
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,960
mulch as much as you can and do your best

522
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,599
to try to expose that buttress. So you're probably be

523
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720
digging down quite a bit. You might encounter some adventitious

524
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:54,880
roots that it has put out into the mulch. Just

525
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200
keep going take that away. The sooner you can expose

526
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,440
that buttress to some good fresh air and get the

527
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,200
plant some supplemental water. The sooner you will have a

528
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,200
healthy river birch and it will recover. Just needs a

529
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,759
little TLC.

530
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Speaker 1: Carol writes to us help. I had a terrible snail

531
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,559
infestation last year. It looks even worse now and summer

532
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,559
hasn't even begun. I live on a small lake in

533
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,519
central New York Zone five now zone six. Bees snails

534
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:26,960
are decimating everything from ligular area to hostas to my grasses.

535
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,880
They even crawl up my wicker patio furniture.

536
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: Gross yikes.

537
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: I picked off one hundred morning and night. We have

538
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,759
had days and days of rain, so I haven't been

539
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,720
able to use slug bait or die Tamacious Earth yet.

540
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,880
But they weren't that effective last year. Perhaps I'm not

541
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,119
applying them correctly. I also read that cocoa shells deter snails,

542
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:51,839
so I've stopped. I've topped my containers with that, but

543
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,839
it's very expensive. I try to use applications that won't

544
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,119
harm my pollinators. I'm desperate. I found you on YouTube

545
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,400
a month ago. I've learned so much. I'm confident you

546
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:07,880
will solve my dilemma. Ah, yes, Cara, you know I

547
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
want to mention right off the bat to Carol, right

548
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:13,519
off the top. A lot of people struggle with this.

549
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,200
You mention hostas in your note. First, take a look

550
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,559
at the mulch. If you have a lot of mulch

551
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400
under these plants. In some cases, pulling the mulch away

552
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,279
from the neck of the plant let's say they're hostas,

553
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,440
will make a world of difference because you got to

554
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,880
think about where the snails are hiding out cool wet places.

555
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
And then Stacy, just real briefly, I'd like to mention

556
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,559
that I've had success with roofing shingles.

557
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:40,759
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say too.

558
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she mentioned diotamacous earth. But roofing shingles just

559
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,480
strips of roofing shingles. You can get them a similar

560
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,839
color to the soil, so they're not ugly and they work.

561
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically all you have to do is take

562
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,279
a roofing shingle. Another thing that works very very well

563
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,480
is like a cedar shake if you have if you

564
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:01,880
live in an area where they put in a lot

565
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680
of cedar shape roofs so we're talking about, you know,

566
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,839
maybe at twelve by twelve ish piece of rough material,

567
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,519
whether that's wood. You don't want it to be smooth.

568
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:15,480
You wanted to have some crustiness on there that that

569
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,200
can attract the slugs. You put that down at night,

570
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
you come out in the morning, you just scrape off

571
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,359
all the slugs because they're gonna come up under there

572
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:28,279
for shelter. That's what they really really love. They actually

573
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:32,920
will prefer to spend the day on that over anywhere else,

574
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So that will help you kind of get them all

575
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,720
in one place rather than pick them off one by one.

576
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,480
And you can also, of course try the time the

577
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,599
tried and true beer trap, which is just to say

578
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,039
you take like a tunicn or a small kind of

579
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,640
shallow dish like that, bury it even with the soil,

580
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,519
put some beer in there and then or flour and

581
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,079
water can also work because they layer was it yeast

582
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,480
in water? We talked about this on the show recently.

583
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: Suggest Carol, just drink the beer forget them.

584
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,079
Speaker 2: Well, they only need a little bit, so you put

585
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,720
a little bit for the slug, a little bit for yourself.

586
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Right, and then crawl in there lose their car keys.

587
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: And die, yes, and they drown in there, and you

588
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720
can also just dump that out, so you can also

589
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,480
do both. But I do want to tell you another trick,

590
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,400
and it's a little bit too late for this, but

591
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,319
I've shared this before. The best time to manage slugs

592
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:27,599
is in late winter. That is when their eggs hatch

593
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,799
and the little baby slugs are coming out. And if

594
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,920
you can control those baby slugs, they will not be

595
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,079
able to get the foothold that they will otherwise. But

596
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:39,400
of course, you know, in upstate New York, I would

597
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,559
think that this is probably we're looking at, like late February,

598
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,319
not a time, you know, if there's no when the

599
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,240
snow melts, that is basically when those eggs are going

600
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,759
to start to hatch. So it's not the time when

601
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:52,720
people think about doing this kind of thing, so they

602
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,000
kind of miss that opportunity. So Carol, put a reminder

603
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,599
in your calendar so that next late February you get

604
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,200
some slug bait. Don't have to worry about the pollinators

605
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,319
because they won't be around. Nothing's going they be around

606
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,359
for another at least you know, six weeks or so,

607
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,720
except those slugs, and that will help you get the

608
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,880
control that makes the population much more manageable later in

609
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the season.

610
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Speaker 1: Right about now, Good luck with your slug fast Carol.

611
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Speaker 2: So thank you so much to Linus and Carol for

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their questions. If you want to reach out to us,

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you can do that at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com,

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take a little break when we come back or continue

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Arning Simplified Show. Today for branching news,

624
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,920
we continue our talk about just do it, Stacey, just

625
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,200
do it debatable. I feed my plants in fall when

626
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,960
the leaves are falling off deciduous plants. The roots can

627
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,359
absorb the soil's warm enough, they can absorb nutrients. They

628
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
get off to a much better start the following spring,

629
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:28,960
I may overfeed, but I like to feed plants in fall.

630
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:33,400
Just do it. Get yourself comfortable clothes for your landscape

631
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:37,119
or your garden working out there. It makes a world

632
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:37,960
of difference.

633
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,799
Speaker 2: Oh and a hat. Hat is so important. I cannot

634
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,000
even tell you, fellow gardeners, if you are not a

635
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:47,559
hat where the future self that will thank you for

636
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,799
wearing a hat because we get a lot of sun exposure.

637
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,440
I mean, I'm super careful about it. I wear sunscreen

638
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,000
and a hat and gotta slather all up. And yes,

639
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,000
I know the dirt sticks to you and that's not fun,

640
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:01,319
but also probably skin cancer isn't for fun, so I'm

641
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,839
not going to risk it. So definitely invest in a hat.

642
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,160
A hat would be my Just do it. And if

643
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,840
you think, oh I don't like a hat, it'll be

644
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,639
in my way. Just go shopping for a hat and

645
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,360
find a hat that you love, and then you'll be

646
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,519
excited about wearing it.

647
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, and I'm getting better about the sunscreen stuff.

648
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,320
I mean again, when we did the Garden Nostalgia Show,

649
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,039
we talked about the fact, you know, I was a

650
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,440
teenager in the seventies when we would slather on baby

651
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,320
oil and lay out on you know, a launch I mean,

652
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,159
really dumb.

653
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, why, I was a teenager in the nineties and

654
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,239
I did that.

655
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,199
Speaker 1: So I asked a friend of mine I work with

656
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,960
she bought a house three years ago, and I said, okay,

657
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,719
what's something everyone should do in their landscape? She said, oh,

658
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,199
take the time to amend your soil. Work the soil.

659
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,679
I said, what should you not do? She said, don't

660
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,599
plant and then said a naughty word, stuff that spreads. Mmmmm,

661
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:05,280
Now I asked, I asked Sue this question. She said,

662
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,719
grow edibles in your landscape and cut flowers in your landscape.

663
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,280
Just do it. I said, well, then, what shouldn't you do?

664
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,760
And she said don't plant prickly plants by the driveway

665
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,880
or the walkway. So there you have that. You want

666
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,079
to do a little speed round.

667
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're going to do a speed round. We're

668
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,760
going to do a just do it speed round. So

669
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,159
I have a list of various things in the garden,

670
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,519
and we're going to without too much forethought or explanation,

671
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:36,960
though of course a little bit will most likely be necessary,

672
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,119
share our thoughts. So speed round start. Now, Rick, what

673
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,760
is your just do it pruning tip or task.

674
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Speaker 1: Prune right after plants are done flowering. That's the time

675
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
to prune. So if you have a lilac, don't be

676
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,719
afraid to prune and prune right after they're done blooming.

677
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: I think my just do it for pruning is going

678
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:04,599
to be don't hesitate to take out tree branches, especially

679
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,639
small young trees that you've recently purchased, to give it

680
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,800
the shape and habit that you want. Tree pruning is

681
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400
a little bit different than shrub pruning, but it is

682
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,559
better to make your cuts when those branches are smaller

683
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,559
and younger than when they get bigger. Not only will

684
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,800
the tree heal faster, but you won't need a chainsaw.

685
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: You're here all right.

686
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,079
Speaker 2: Next one, what's your just do it? Go to tree

687
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:28,679
to plant?

688
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: Definitely, Boy, that's a tough one. It's a tie between

689
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,320
juneberry and paper bark maple.

690
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, juneberry is a can't miss for sure. That is

691
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,159
a great choice. I'm gonna go with joonberry too. Service

692
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,320
I'm a link here. It is like that. What's the

693
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,840
perfect four season place? Yes, if you don't have deer

694
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,599
because they do eat it. So that's why I have

695
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:54,360
not just done it myself. Just do it shrub to plant.

696
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm going I've got to say panicled hydrangers. I can't

697
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:03,079
help it. I can't think of a better easier to

698
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:06,039
grow shrub in the landscape that is so beautiful.

699
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Mine is going to be for those who can grow it. It

700
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,519
does have a slightly limited heat tolerance range. Lemony lace

701
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:14,280
elderberry nice. That is a plant that I have completely

702
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,920
fallen in love with in my garden. It is stunning.

703
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,599
What about a perennial, Just do it perennial.

704
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Speaker 1: For a just do it perennial. I'm going to say it.

705
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I'm gonna say baptis You I.

706
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Speaker 2: Will hold you to this. I mean, I know there's

707
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multiple you know, answers to all of these.

708
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: You go to say Baptisia.

709
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: It just is Yeah, that's definitely a great choice. This

710
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,599
is a tougher one for me because a lot of

711
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:41,400
the plants that I like the most I don't think

712
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,079
other people would like. Like if I said, might just

713
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,760
do it is to plant Sophia. I'm like we talked

714
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about in the Big Plants episode. I think a lot

715
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,079
of people would be like, that thing is way too

716
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,360
big and spreads way too much. My just do it,

717
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,199
I guess will then be milkweed.

718
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, well if you get to then then I'm

719
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,480
gonna throw ornamental grasses.

720
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:02,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course myses makes sense and peptisia's fabulous,

721
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:04,079
but you know I will. I'll give you that. The

722
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,199
ornamental grasses are going to give you probably a little

723
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:08,559
bit longer of a season of interest.

724
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the bet you're resistant. And don't get

725
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,360
me started on ornamental grasses, per seed.

726
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,559
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that Carol's slugs were even eating our grasses.

727
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,119
Grasses are not typically something that slugs are a problem on.

728
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,840
So that's when I knew that we had to help Carol.

729
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,039
If for slug infestation was that bad, I felt like

730
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,800
we really needed to throw or a line there. Just

731
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,760
do it thing for birds task or tip or whatever.

732
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Thing for birds. Boy, I'm gonna say, I'm going to

733
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,159
say anything that is hummingbird related. And for me again,

734
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:52,480
it's the rockin Salvia series, proven winners. Rockin Salvia because

735
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:56,079
the humming birds. They're covered in hummingbirds in summer.

736
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love rock and deep purple. I love

737
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,000
that dark purple color. So that's when I'm growing this year,

738
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,559
my just do it for birds in the garden is

739
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,559
going to be have a bird bath. Oh you know,

740
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,119
it's a simple thing. Now, I will say for those

741
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,519
of you who are buying a bird bath in response

742
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,440
to this, a lot of the newer bird baths are

743
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,719
not very bird friendly. They are very deep, and so

744
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,679
the birds will come and perch on the rim and

745
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,679
drink from it, but they are not going to get

746
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,079
in there because it is not safe. And I have

747
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,840
a deep one like this, and I've tried to fix

748
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,679
it with rocks and making it a little shallower. It

749
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,280
doesn't work. So I have a beautiful old fashioned one

750
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,920
with a more shallow concrete bowl. The birds are constantly

751
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,599
bathing in it, and it's so much fun to watch.

752
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 1: You know. What makes this really hard is that I

753
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:43,079
would say, just do it. Have diversity in your Landsln's

754
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,000
it's more entertaining for you. If a problem crops up,

755
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:49,480
it doesn't spread like wildfire. That's what makes this speed

756
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:50,480
round thing tough.

757
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: You know. I saw an article the other day where

758
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,199
it was like, you know, five things a professional landscape

759
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
designer says you should never do. When it was all okay, whatever,

760
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,960
and one of them was don't plant too many plant species,

761
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,920
and I was like, you want to fight, yeah, because

762
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,840
you know, yes, you can absolutely have a minimalist landscape

763
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,159
with very few plant species. But why, I don't know,

764
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:17,880
what would be the point?

765
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,679
Speaker 1: Be so boring you Carol and me will get in there,

766
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,960
we'll have a slug fest.

767
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've got I couldn't even count how many

768
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,519
species I have. I would be very interested to know.

769
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:33,119
But diversity is always just do it. I agree, diversify,

770
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,800
just do it. Garden design feature.

771
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: Most definitely planting in swaths or drifts as opposed to

772
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,119
just sticking a single plant in the ground. I like

773
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,920
swaths or.

774
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,199
Speaker 2: Drifts of yeah, odd numbers. It couldn't be any easier.

775
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,239
And that's the kind of thing that people don't realize

776
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,360
is such a good and simple back pocket planting tip.

777
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,199
I know it's not just us trying to get you

778
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,400
to buy more plants. It really is the best and

779
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,519
easiest way to get a professional look. And if you

780
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:12,039
look at professional landscapes no matter where you go around

781
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:13,639
the country, that's what they usually do.

782
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: It's because if you stick a single plant in the ground,

783
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,559
sometimes it can look like it doesn't belong there but

784
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:20,960
a swath or a drift.

785
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: It's like, that's how nature grows. Yeah, it's seeds, And okay,

786
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,599
my garden design feature or just do it would be

787
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,960
I mean most of the things I've done, I wouldn't

788
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,320
recommend the other people.

789
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Throw spacing out the door.

790
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,079
Speaker 2: There you go. Spacing is a recommendation only. It's an

791
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,920
educated it's a departure point for your garden. But also

792
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,800
do as I say, not as I do. What is

793
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,960
your just do it? All alarms on. Pull this weed

794
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:54,280
right now.

795
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it is nuts edge.

796
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, I'm with you on that one. When

797
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,559
I see nuts edge, I do you stop other weeds?

798
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:05,199
I'll be like, I can get to that later. When

799
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,280
I see that edge, I'm like, you're out right now.

800
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: Oh. I helped the lady out the other day where

801
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,559
I saw the start of horsetail in a landscape. So

802
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,000
I'm going to say nuts edge slash horse tip.

803
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't pull horseize.

804
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,119
Speaker 1: I know you can't.

805
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,639
Speaker 2: And if you are struggling with horsetail in your yard,

806
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,519
that's probably an indication that something's going wrong with your

807
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:28,840
sprinkler system or plumbing system or water system because they

808
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,760
only grow in wet soils. So if you have an

809
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,960
overly wet soil, you probably will get horsetail and you

810
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,199
will not get rid of it until you make that

811
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,039
soil dry and well drained. What is your just do

812
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:42,239
it mowing tip?

813
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 1: Raise the deck on the moor. It makes all the

814
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:48,119
difference in the world. You want to cut back on fertilizer, chemicals,

815
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,280
weed controls all that, raise the deck on the mow

816
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,360
or don't scalp.

817
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,639
Speaker 2: Your lawn, might just do it. Mowing tip is getting

818
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,079
electricallywn more because then you can mow whenever you want,

819
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:02,440
because it's not just active. So it's Sunday morning, everybody's

820
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,920
still asleep. You got that electric mowerk no one will

821
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,679
hardly even know you're mowing. You can hold on a conversation.

822
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,000
You don't have that annoying pull cord where all your

823
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:14,599
neighbors are laughing at you as you struggle with it. So, yeah,

824
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,199
that's my just do it. It's all I got. Really well,

825
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,920
I have personal item, but I feel like we already

826
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,679
discussed that person. You're just do it gardening gear. Oh yeah,

827
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,639
but you know I'm in I'm firmly in hat camp.

828
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. The clothes, I mean, I love these pants. These

829
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,360
are Columbia lightweight.

830
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: They look a little light for gardening.

831
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Color wise, oh colorwise, Yeah, I'm talking about the type

832
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,159
of Yes, yes, yes, I soiled my plants.

833
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: All right. So that is our partial list of things

834
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:50,599
that you should just do in the garden without hesitating,

835
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,320
without delay, just because they are the right thing to

836
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,119
do and they will pay dividends in the long run.

837
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,079
So thank you so much for listening. Thank you Rick,

838
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:01,599
thank you cuator on up, and we hope you all

839
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have a wonderful week ahead. H