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Speaker 1: All Start, Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning drive.

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Speaker 3: Hansday, Hester and Hester got it five out a.

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Speaker 1: Five, Your locks in to Off the Bench.

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Speaker 4: Wrap Control the as.

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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's

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Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 5: Welcome O TV one, O four five ESPN Baton Rouge.

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Here on this Monday morning. Jake Flynn, Alandra Taylor all

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here with you. Ready to go preseason football. Let's go exciting.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing? How we live? And how was

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the weekend? Sir?

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Speaker 2: Weekend was good. Got a little rest. Folks are in town.

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I had the kids chasing them around. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Got a chance to say hello to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great weekend. That's football on the TV.

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It's it's just nice to have football on the background.

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Fall albeit terrible preseason football, so bad, but it's so great.

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It is so great just to have the noises back there.

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So it's been good. It's been a good weekend.

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Speaker 5: Did you have a player over the weekend, and anybody

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can answer this. A player over the weekend that showed

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up in a preseason game.

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Speaker 3: You're like, wow, I fell still plays.

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Speaker 2: A good question. Someone stick out to you case Keenum, Yes,

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that was it.

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Speaker 3: He went in there from the Bears, and I'm like, there,

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ain't no way.

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Speaker 2: Ain't no way. So I saw him. So I was

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watching that game kind of background. I wasn't like paying

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attention to it, and I saw the quarterback plan and

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I recognized like the body language, and I couldn't like

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read the name because they hadn't zoomed in yet. So

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it took I had to like watch for like two

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or three minutes to finally get to catch the name plate.

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And yeah, I was like, huh, that's interesting. Good for him.

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He was almost out of the league in I want

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to say, like fifteen or sixteen, and he got called

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I can't remember. I think the Texans called him in

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maybe September.

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Speaker 3: Sember run with Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Was it Minnesota? Okay, maybe it was the champions.

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Speaker 3: So we don't want to bring up that whole nil.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, because I think I remember the story.

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He was out of it, he wasn't on the team,

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and he was like in a deer stand. Yeah, and

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he got his text from his agent saying, hey, got

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will workout for you? Yeah you want to make a

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playoff run?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So still doing it, going strong.

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Speaker 3: Good for him, Good for him, anybody else? Anybody else?

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Have a random person and like, oh wow, that guy

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still plays.

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Speaker 6: Every time I see timol every time I see Tim

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Speaker 3: I'm like Tim Boyle is still has played for a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of teams for a lot of How to make y'all

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feel you go back to the Chicago game when they

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panted the sideline, saw Dennis Island's face, I laughed at TV.

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Speaker 3: Good coordinator.

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Speaker 2: They were like, Dennis.

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Speaker 6: Allen's defense can get a stop and they gave up

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like a fifteen yard dig round on third and ten

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tennis side.

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Speaker 5: Stay hot, Bud, just stay consistent, Stay consistent. But yeah,

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I mean, I'm like Flynn. It was good to see football,

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even if it was background fodder. They're over the week

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in a Landra, How was your weekend?

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Speaker 7: It was good. I did a whole lot of sleeping.

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I was a little under the weather, so Saturday.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't ready for sleep, That's all.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 8: I had a remote out in Gonzalez, on Saturday morning,

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I got home passed out for hours, and then the

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night before I watched my neighbor's daughter.

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Speaker 7: It was so good.

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Speaker 8: I showed her Rookie of the Year and loved it. Yeah,

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she was like, oh wait, I like this movie and

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Speaker 7: So that's fun too.

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Speaker 8: I think that's like what I'm most looking forward to

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if I ever have kids is showing them all the

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movies that I used to like as a kid.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna sit down and you're gonna We're gonna watch

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Rookie of the Year. It is a great sand line, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Because like the movies we grew up with, we think

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our kids should like them because we turned out awesome,

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so like they need to turn out as awesome. But

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I had that experience recently with uh with Little Big League. Yeah,

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like they loved it and they asked to watch it

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again the other night. They're like, I think it was

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Friday or Saturday, like can we go to sleep to it?

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Big League. Yeah, a couple of risk parts of that

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movie I didn't know about as a child, but yeah,

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I liked it. I think the nineties. They like to

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Speaker 5: I had something for the parents. I mean, any movie

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be like Shrek. Yeah, it's got a ton of stuff

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for adults. The kids don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: This is a little bit more different. Like the little

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boy from a Little Big League. He is in a

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he ends up paying for certain movies in a hotel room.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well, and then I showed her I showed

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her bride worse too. That's uh.

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Speaker 8: Kate Hudson and Anne Hathaway, they're best friends and they

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both want to get married at the plaza. But yeah,

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I think one of my favorite bits is him calling

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him a different name every time, where he's.

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Speaker 3: Like, way to go, run a buck up, yes, gardener.

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Yeah that's great movie. Great movie.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you call that babysitting or just hanging

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out with We were.

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Speaker 8: Just hanging out. I mean, I guess I was quote

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unquote babysitting, but we were hanging out. I didn't feel like,

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yeah played operations.

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Speaker 7: Oh they have like money with it now. No, she

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had it, but they have like money with it now.

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Speaker 2: Operations aren't cheap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta pay to play.

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Speaker 7: The guy didn't have insurance.

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Speaker 8: It's like a thousand bucks to get the bread basket

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out of him.

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Speaker 6: Oh geez, got fout a dollar for every time somebody

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swallowed a bread basket.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if I had a nickel. Have

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you ever had a child swallow any four objects before?

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Speaker 5: Ummm no, no, none of the five nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming with the way you set that story up,

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you're about to tell her.

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Speaker 2: Well, it reminded me. She said, they have money at

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it now, Like my little one swallowed like a penny

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one time this past year.

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Speaker 3: And that's the true definition. It can't had money.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, especially when they take an X ray and it's

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like it's like, oh, yeah, she did it.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's there. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Uh te the Cowboys played a preseason game more than

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Navy jerseys and everything.

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Speaker 3: How to go? How was the weekend?

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Speaker 2: I love the Navy jerseys.

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Speaker 6: I wish uh Ceedee Lamb and the referee would both

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have their head on a swivel because, uh, that was

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a collision we didn't need in the preseason. Dallas is

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already in preseason four or mid season four, so he

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got that's excellent.

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Speaker 2: But it was good. He was into the game. Though

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he was celebrating his team teamwork.

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Speaker 6: He was, he was, he was, he was in a

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good move up until that point. But no great weekend,

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great wen.

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Speaker 2: He ends up on the injury. God, all right, let's

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let's chill. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I was talking about this with Katie and the

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boys yesterday and he used to bother me as a

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player too, And it bothers me, I think even more now,

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say my old man taken. I hate that I that

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I feel this way. But when somebody's not playing in

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a preseason game, do they try as hard as they

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possibly can to let you know that they're not playing

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in the preseason game. Towel around the neck, hats cocked

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to the side, maybe from sunglasses own out in front.

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And like, when I was a player, you should bother

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me too, Like there's preseason games that I didn't play in,

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but I was gonna be dressed, like I was gonna

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adjust my uniforms, can go through warm ups whatever.

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Speaker 3: But like on the.

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Speaker 5: Sidelines, like, oh my god, that guy's trying so hard

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to show everybody, Hey, I didn't have to play this game.

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Speaker 8: I got.

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Speaker 6: I got, I got justin Jefferson did this over the weekend,

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so on Saturday, they did like a fifteen minute interview

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with him, like between commercial breaks. Everything was great, but

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like all the other guys, you know, they got their

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purple jerseys on with no pats if they're not playing.

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Joseph Jefferson shows up, I'm all black, what looked like

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Minnesota track suit, sunglasses on, indoors, towel over his shoulder.

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I'm like, jjy, we get it, Bud, you ain't playing.

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Speaker 2: But it was I forget him though. That's him a

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. And this is more.

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Speaker 5: This is more like fringe guys that used to upset me,

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like when I was a player, you know what I mean,

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Like the outside line, I'm backer at starting because of

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an injury, and I'm like, and he's trying to let

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everybody know, hey, I'm you know it got the tal ramneck,

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you know what I mean? They ain't playing today. Seohn

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Phillips was the worst. I'll go ahead and put an

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into it. My mold teammates shot was the worst. It

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is like try to put on a piece of flair

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to let you know, Like he'd like go put slides

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on to let you know he wasn't playing in that

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preseason game, Like, hey man, we get it. We know

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what this, we know what this first pre season game

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Speaker 2: It ain't a big deal. The first game doesn't mean jack.

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You know. It really bothers me about coverage of preseason games,

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and you just alluded to it. It's the third and

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fourth quarter interview with the star player that is not

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playing in the game during the gameplay, and I'm like,

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nobody cares. He's not You're not going to get any

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information out of this. I guess people. I guess there

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are people. They wouldn't do it if people didn't care.

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But like these guys, these cats that are playing the game,

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they're working their tail off and their whole family, like

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everybody's watching them. People care about like they're trying to

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make a team. And you were just like I was like, oh,

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what a great throw, a great catch, and they just

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like skip right past and they don't show the replay. Uh, Like,

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these guys could make the best play you've ever seen

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in your life in the third or fourth quarter of

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a preseason game, and uh, I don't know. We're worried

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about what the star player who doesn't play is. How

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is training camps going?

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Speaker 3: And it was funny.

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Speaker 5: DeVante Adams was on an interview. He's with the Rams

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now and he was doing one of those interviews that

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you don't like, and there's like a big play in

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the crowd popped a little bit and made some noise

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and he's like trying to look and trying to ask

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him questions, and he basically was like, hold on, my

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guys made a big play. I'm trying to find out

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what was going on like during the interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys I'm spending like every single day with

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and teaching and yeah, anyway, I don't I'm not a

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big fan of that.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we have a preseason game that when we

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come back from break, get this show started that well,

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we'll break it down. We'll tell you the good, the bad,

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and certain the ugly, and we'll do it right here

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on OTV. Off the bench, all right, go to trash

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Speaker 5: All right, so the Saints go down to the Chargers

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twenty seven to thirteen in the preseason score doesn't really matter.

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If you win or lose a preseason game doesn't really matter.

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It's about watching the tape and seeing how the performances

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ended up. It's about seeing some things like was it

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clean football? Did you have turnovers? Did you protect the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Did we protect the quarterback?

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Speaker 3: No, that did not happen.

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Speaker 5: My biggest takeaway from the Saints preseason game the Saints

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offensive line and now with Trevor Pinning leaving the game,

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will clap leaving the game? I mean, you're down a

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couple of bodies. But the Saints had their one offensive

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line out there against Charger backups and could not block them.

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Speaker 3: That is troublesome. That makes you worry.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, you had multiple parts of

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your first offensive line out there and they were losing.

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The Chargers full back they're starting fullback who like Dabbles

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and playing defensive line was beating some of your first

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team offensive line.

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Speaker 3: That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And we talking pass pro run blocking, what are we talking?

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I saw the pass blocking your poison. You can better

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judge the run blocking, because you've read run blocking for

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your entire career. Pass blocking, it just seemed like there

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was one loose end a lot of times. But that's

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all it really takes, right, That mean, no question about it.

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We'll get to the run game. If we can start

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with the pass protection, that's fine. Caesar Luiz, who's a

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first round pick.

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Speaker 5: Jack ln Hyde has had some moments, but like he

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got beat in a way Matt that you see undrafted

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free agents get beat. And I don't try, like I'm

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not trying to be disrespectful to undrafted free agents, but

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when you get in there for the first time, it's

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going real fast, you forget all your technique.

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Speaker 3: You kind of step on your own toes a little bit.

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Speaker 5: And when I see a guy who is a veteran

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player in this league, who is a first round pick,

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do that, like that's troublesome to me. It's like he

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has got to be more consistent. This was the third

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fourth play of the game, and Spencer Ratler is having

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to immediately leave the pocket because his first round starting

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guard is getting beat by a backup. Now a good defense, Chargers,

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I think we're the topping scoring defense.

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Speaker 3: I think a year ago.

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Speaker 5: But it's a backup on that team and your guy

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throwing a lookout block the third play of a preseason game.

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the only the only play. I mean, you get a

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gift the Chargers muff a punt, you get the ball

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back there and on you know, one of the biggest

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I think it was third down Spencer Ratler doesn't even

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have the ball in his hands yet, and he's getting

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pressure from the right guard immediately, right, and so like

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those are things that it's hard to judge a quarterback. Now,

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Spencer ended up running down to the one yard line

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and making a positive playout of it. But it's hard

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to judge quarterbacks when you have pressure immediately, certainly interior

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pressure immediately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Watching the game, that is the number one thing that

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stuck out to me was the pass protection woes with

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the with the starting unit. I'm not gonna I'm not

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gonna take a deep dive into quarters one, two, three,

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and four, but.

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Speaker 5: It was immediately with your starters against backups, and from

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all the talk through off season leading up to training

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camp and up to this point through training camp, most

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of the talk ninety eight percent of it.

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Speaker 2: It's been about the quarterbacks, been a little bit about

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the receivers, what we're doing on defense, Tire Matthew, the

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safety position, and most of we've kind of skipped past

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and overlooked the offensive line because all reports said, looking

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pretty good, they're dominating. There's some good clips coming out,

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and we were hoping that that was the one position

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that we could at least count on to be serviceable,

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be good because of the draft stock, the draft capital

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they have in it, the least amount of like I guess,

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question marks about who's going to be there at least

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maybe maybe it's not the right fit, maybe they haven't

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really shown what they should have. But like from a

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personnel standpoint, the least amount of question marks, like we

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got guys here, they should be good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a position that we're like, okay, right, all right,

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but let me you feel pretty good about it.

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Speaker 2: But for a preseason game, an absolute running game that

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was abysmal. Yes, it was blocked awfully, and we were

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just talking about like the running backs, like he had

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to shot the show out eor but like nineties Emmitt

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Smith wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Making anything in that game, right, That's a very tough

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game to evaluate the running back position because when you

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go and you look at it, and we'll just pull

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up the box score, you had Kendre Miller six for

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fifteen yards two point five yards per carrie, cam Akers

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four for nine two point three yards per carry, Clyde

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Edwards layer four carries six yards, one point five yards

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per carrie. You had Jones junior head one carry for

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negative one yards.

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Speaker 3: All right, there was nothing there.

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Speaker 5: And I went back and I was kind of looking

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at some of the tape this morning, and I don't

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know and you said it too, I don't know where

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to tell the running back to run. So like the

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problem coming in here on a Monday morning. It's not

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that the Saints lost a preseason game. You can go

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zero and four in the preseason, make the playoffs. It

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happens all the time. It's when you watch the tape

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and the positions that you actually felt good about in

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camp were getting beat consistently in both things they do

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protecting the quarterback and opening up lanes for the running back.

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When you actually kind of look at the quarterback play,

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there were some encouraging things.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, quarterback. This is based on

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one yame quarterback will not be the issue for the

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New Orleans Saints in twenty twenty five. Not saying they're

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gonna be all pros, not saying they're gonna be top

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ten or maybe top fifteen, but they are not gonna

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be the problem for this team. The problem is going

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to be the surrounding pieces around it. Defense, but that

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offensive line, it has got a lot of work to do.

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And it's not just like mental errors. Yeah, we're talking

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about physically being just beat Yeah, not maybe not outstrengthened,

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like the technique, the footwork, like everything, it's just they

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got beaten all ways.

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Speaker 3: It was weird, It was it was so weird to

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see a player again.

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Speaker 5: Not just trying to pick on Caesar Wize, but he's

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he's the guy that stood out to me. And also

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like he's just been he's been inconsistent. Like the highs

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are high, but man, the lows are low. And when

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I say stepping on his own feet, Like when you

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play offensive line really at any level, but certainly in

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the National Football League, like there is a process of

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going through your technique and if you don't do it,

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you'll get beat by anybody. We always joke, like that

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guy's gonna be an uber driver. Uber drivers are still

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really good football players when they're in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: And like he never even like had a kickstep.

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Speaker 5: It was like he was like high school Harry, like

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let me just turn and try to pass protect you.

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Like it blew my mind watching it on tape, and

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I kind of went back and like I was injured. Well,

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I thought I thought maybe he got stepped on by somebody.

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You know, It's like he couldn't get his noe. Nope,

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it was just bad technique. And so like that was

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a unit, and again it is one game. But the

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thing that worries you is the Chargers didn't have Khalil

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Mack out there. You know what I'm saying, Like the

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Chargers didn't have they're ones out there rushing you. It

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was guys that are going to play for the Chargers.

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They're backups in a unit that you thought, Okay, look,

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whichever young quarterback comes in there, they're gonna protect him

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all right. Whichever running back ends up being behind ak,

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you know, they're gonna be able to be successful, like

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I thought Ken Dre Miller. Actually, like there was a

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couple of moves that he made that almost texted the

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group like Okay, I get while he's getting second and

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third chances right because he's sudden. I'm like okay, but

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it doesn't really matter how sudden you are.

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Speaker 2: It suddenly got hit in the face exactly.

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Speaker 3: He would make two guys miss like oh but.

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Speaker 5: Like that in my hope is if I'm trying to

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be glass half full about anything, maybe once they're they're

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tight ends. Like maybe maybe you know, because Foster Moro

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is obviously somebody that helps him in the run game,

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like maybe when he gets like Juwan Johnson is a

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converted receipt, so like.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the top maybe maybe that helps you.

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Speaker 2: Lost is gonna help him go that kickstep?

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Speaker 3: But my yeah, he just true, my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let me maybe the Chargers are like the

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eighty five Bears, but.

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Speaker 5: They are they really would I mean they led the

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league in scoring defense, but if they weren't one, they

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were like top three. But it wasn't It wasn't there, guys,

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like you didn't have Derwin James wasn't out there.

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Speaker 2: If there's ever like a show that talks about sports

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that is not gonna overreact to preseason games, it would

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be our show, and we're not gonna overreact to them

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looking bad or playing bad or certainly not losing. Like

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who cares about what the score says at the end

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of the day in preseason, But when you make simple

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airs and you're getting beat one on one and your

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footwear looks bad and you just look like the other

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people are better football players than you on multiple plays,

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00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,440
offensive line, like you're gonna win some, you're gonna lose them.

475
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,759
That is a defensive lineman. That's offensive line. That is

476
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,680
the life of alignment, especially in the running game, like

477
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,160
you're gonna win some, you're gonna lose some. In passing game,

478
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,640
you're gonna win. As offensive lineman, you're gonna win the majority.

479
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,960
You can win ninety nine percent of them and still

480
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,519
be a bad offensive lineman. Right, that's just the life

481
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,400
that it is. But you can't get beat every time, right,

482
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,880
And we're not saying they got beat every time, but

483
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,359
it certainly looked like it because we couldn't run the

484
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,720
ball and we're I'm talking more of the first staffs.

485
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,559
Spencer had pressure on him the entire time. So, like

486
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,359
the biggest question mark has been the quarterback. Everybody's been

487
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,720
worried about it. We'll talk about that more in segments

488
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,440
that come about their actual play. But I can tell

489
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720
you from what we saw in one game, and this

490
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,240
is not an overreaction, this is just stadium. What we

491
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,160
saw based on yesterday is that quarterback we will not

492
00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:55,640
be the issue this year. If there is an issue

493
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,079
to we had.

494
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 5: I am oof, man, I am looking at some of

495
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,559
the pro football focused grades this game.

496
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the guys towards the bottom.

497
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: I mean, Caesar at least fifty one percent, Juwan Johnson

498
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:11,119
fifty one percent.

499
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: Like when you.

500
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:19,079
Speaker 5: Look at pass blocking grades, it's just, man, there's not only.

501
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,599
Speaker 2: One way to go.

502
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:22,519
Speaker 3: It is only one way to go. You're starting, you're

503
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:23,440
starting right guard.

504
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: You're starting right guard, who's a first round pick that

505
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,240
you're going to be counting on graded out of thirty

506
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,400
four percent past blocking grade yesterday, Like those are the

507
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960
things that when you when you watch it, they showed

508
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:35,799
and look like I just I wanted to see the

509
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,480
grades just to make sure that my eyes were telling

510
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,480
me the same story. And if the Saints are going

511
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,799
to be successful offensively and we'll get to the defense

512
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,119
later on, there was actually some really good things with

513
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,039
some of the defensive unit, but the if the Saints

514
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:55,160
are gonna have any hope to do anything, even in

515
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,839
the South, a division that has been down, the offensive

516
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:05,079
line has to be the unit that you count on

517
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,799
every single game because you've got four first round picks

518
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,480
in a second round pick. Find me another team across

519
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,759
the league that in a position group, any position group

520
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,000
has four first rounders in a second rounder and the

521
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:21,839
second rounder is actually the best of the group.

522
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,279
Speaker 3: Like, go find me that. You won't. It doesn't exist.

523
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,759
Speaker 5: You have so much draft capital tied into that one position,

524
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000
that position group for what you've spent on.

525
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: It needs to be elite.

526
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,279
Speaker 3: They weren't good yesterday.

527
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,839
Speaker 5: They were In fact, they were bad together Like Fogg

528
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000
actually played pretty well at right tackle. Okay, you know,

529
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Banks is somebody that's you know, a rookie, and he

530
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,839
held his own a little bit there. But as a unit,

531
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,160
it's got to go way up if the Saints want

532
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720
to have any kind of a season that they can

533
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:04,359
be proud of, because yesterday's performance from a group that

534
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,319
you're counting on was so much put into it and

535
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,680
building it. If it plays like that, he'll be going

536
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,279
to Pittsburgh next year, and the commissioner is going to

537
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:22,440
say what the first overall pick the New Orleans Saints select.

538
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,839
Speaker 2: With a unit, an offensive unit that has two wide

539
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,359
receivers that anyone in the country's ever heard of, two

540
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480
quarterbacks that are a fifth round pick, last year's second

541
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:39,519
round pick, rookie, no veteran quarterbacks, running backs that are

542
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:45,960
established but older getting a little bit older. The group

543
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,640
that we're talking about on the lead of this show

544
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,599
for fifteen minutes is about the poor play of the

545
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:57,359
one group that has got four first rounders in a second. Yeah,

546
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,000
that's not good. No, you have to have them step by.

547
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,799
They got to be the anchor of this team. They

548
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:03,519
got a lot to approve on and like, look, the

549
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,200
talent's clearly there. They wouldn't have had the draft stock

550
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,039
that they did. They just have to figure it out.

551
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,279
They got to figure out how to be pros. Yeah, man,

552
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,559
I'm not I'm talking about all of them, but just

553
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,480
from you got to do your job. Four people can't

554
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,960
be great and one person not yet. They got to work.

555
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,319
Speaker 5: You have to non negotiable. When you play the offensive

556
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960
line in the National Football League, you have to all

557
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,359
be working It's what makes football the greatest sport in

558
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,359
the world. You can have ten guys doing the thing

559
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,000
that they're supposed to be doing at an elite level,

560
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,240
and one guy can be, you know, using poor technique

561
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,839
or be not there mentally and not have one step here,

562
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,599
one step there. Maybe he you know, supposed to go

563
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,839
inside shoulder, he goes outside shoulder. And you know what,

564
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,960
those ten guys doing that elite thing, it does not matter.

565
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,440
The play is going to be blown up in the backfield.

566
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,640
That's what makes it the ultimate team sport and the

567
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,240
greatest sport we have. It has to be eleven people

568
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:06,680
in Unison, and yesterday.

569
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: It was not that. It was not that in then

570
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,720
some and.

571
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: So guess what though, that's another game this week.

572
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,799
Speaker 5: I and and look they might so, depending on on

573
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,079
their health. Killing Moore said after the game they might

574
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,759
practice with the Rams this week because the Chargers were

575
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,160
supposed to practice with the Rams, and the Chargers a

576
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,119
little banged up in camp and they decided not to.

577
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,000
The Saints actually the Rams reached out to them and said, hey,

578
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
would y'all since Charle out here, would y'all want to

579
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,119
practice with us those joint practices would benefit the Saints

580
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,000
offensive line so much because that Rams defensive line has

581
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,599
got dogs, three or four of them.

582
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: If I'm killing more, you got away this all right?

583
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,279
What kind of practices do you want to have, Sean McVay,

584
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,440
Because I want to go full pads four times this

585
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,119
week and I would have run I have running drills,

586
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,079
and I want my offense linemen to work. So if

587
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,160
the Rams aren't don't want to do that, if I'm

588
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,960
killing more, that's what I want to do. I want

589
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
to go nine on seven. I want my offensive line.

590
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,319
I want to kick their ass this week. Yeah right.

591
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440
I wanted to make them get low, make them do

592
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:16,319
the footwork stuff.

593
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if if.

594
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: Rams don't want to do those things, that's you got

595
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,319
to kind of way what type of practice you want

596
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:22,599
to do? But I agree with you, if you have

597
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,160
those types of practices with another team, it would benefit

598
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,839
them tremendously.

599
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: Especially with one that has the Rams defensive line. I mean,

600
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,759
Braden Fisk, You've got Kobe Turner, Byron Young, you got yeah,

601
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:39,599
Jared Verse.

602
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,519
Speaker 3: Is obviously on that team.

603
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,839
Speaker 5: I mean you have some really good players that can

604
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,759
really get after any offensive line. I mean, Jared Verse,

605
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,839
what was he not defensive Rookie of the Year last

606
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,960
year on the That's what I thought, and I mean

607
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Fisk and look those Florestate guys who know them well,

608
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:57,039
but you can tell shoot the were in the backfield

609
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:01,960
as well, really good players. I still think it's funny

610
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880
that when you look at the Rams defensive depth chart

611
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,599
you see Omar Spates starting in the NFL.

612
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Matthhouse.

613
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,039
Speaker 5: I knew Omar was a great player. I watched him

614
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,279
at Oregon State. I was so exciting when he got here.

615
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:20,400
Everybody was calling him slow Mar Spates for his play

616
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,680
at LSU. Oh no, it was just madhouse. It was

617
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,680
just madhouse guys starting in the NFL as an undrafted

618
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:29,880
free agent two years in a row.

619
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,599
Speaker 3: By the way, Oh that put me in a bad movie.

620
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640
All right, all right, yep, yep.

621
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll try to find some good in what happened

622
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,359
yesterday in Sofi Stadium when we come back here on

623
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:40,759
O TV.

624
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Speaker 1: Hey, Tigers turn talkers, this is off the bench, all right,

646
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:43,799
welcome back here.

647
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: And oh TB one oh four five, ESPN Ben.

648
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,359
Speaker 2: Rouge all right.

649
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: Uh, we gotta say something nice about the Saints.

650
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: Kidding uniforms so good they wore the right pants. They

651
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:04,359
wore the pants you're supposed to wear on the road.

652
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,240
Were the gold pants.

653
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: So yes, Spencer Rayler drawed back on his first pass, Spence,

654
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,000
guess throw it.

655
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: Where checked down?

656
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:18,559
Speaker 2: Bye bye, went through his reads, perfect, reed, check down, back,

657
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:22,039
got out, stay on schedule.

658
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, like there was there's three or four throws

659
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,920
for Spencer. I was like, all right, all right, that's

660
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,480
a big throw. That's a that's a.

661
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Looks really good. Yeah he look, he looked very comfortable, look,

662
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,639
very poised. Read the read the defense. Well, I don't

663
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:39,920
think he made a bad read or bad decision. The

664
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,400
I think he made one bad throw through behind a

665
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,719
gown on a slant round. Okay, whoop, big whoop. But

666
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,920
he looked very poised.

667
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,079
Speaker 3: Look.

668
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Look, and I watch a quarterback. When we kind of

669
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,280
talked about how we should evaluate quarterbacks and which you

670
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,159
look for, things like that offense looks smooth. There's a

671
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:04,400
lot happened that first offense pre snap. There's a lot

672
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,119
happening with ships, a lot happened in motions. You have

673
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:11,119
to have a guy that is understands that. And so

674
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,199
the operationally, like we discussed last week, operationally, I thought

675
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,480
Spencer looked really good. That's getting everybody in the right position.

676
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,440
You know, not a lot of pre snap penalties. There's

677
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,039
nothing that looked a mess. It looked like it looked concise.

678
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,480
They pretty much ran similar formation and similar motions on

679
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:35,239
most of their plays when Spencer was in there, Like

680
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,559
they had they had they had a plan, They had

681
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,119
a plan of attack, and they were gonna give them

682
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,039
pretty much similar looks and run multiple different running plays

683
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,880
and pass plays variations off that off those looks. But yeah,

684
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,800
I thought he looked well. I thought he looked good.

685
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:52,119
I really did. He threw the ball well. It didn't

686
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:54,880
seem like too big for him, He wasn't pressing, spun

687
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,519
the ball well, went through his reads. I think it

688
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,360
was the first play of the game where they dropped

689
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,519
back and they ran like a two by two I

690
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,800
can all go hinge type of situation and back got out,

691
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,239
went through his reads. They got too high shell. Nobody

692
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,880
was there where the side that he chose to work

693
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,000
based on the pre snap coverage, there is nobody there.

694
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,000
Moved his feet, stayed poised, hit the check down. I

695
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:22,199
think got seven eight yards. So stay on schedule. Perfect,

696
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,639
That's that's what I saw and that's the biggest takeaway

697
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:27,519
for me. That's how you evaluate the quarterback in a

698
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,519
preseason is what they do when all the goods are

699
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:32,639
out there. It's not what they really do in the

700
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,639
second half. I don't think that means as much right now.

701
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,519
You have to take care of business like Shuck had

702
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,679
to do what he did, because it's if you don't

703
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,719
do that, then it's really like it's really bad, but

704
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880
like it's just different football in the second half of

705
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,679
a preseason game than it is the first half. So

706
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,719
I thought he handled it well.

707
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: I was excited a couple of other things that I

708
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,639
think were positive for the New Orleans Saints because you know,

709
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,119
last segment and we obviously pointed out the things that

710
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,840
went wrong and that that's gonna be worrisome until we

711
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,039
see them again, either in game action or these practices

712
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:08,760
that they might have against the Rams. The past defense

713
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400
looked great. I thought the past defense looked really good.

714
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,880
I thought the DB's played really well. Some of the

715
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,159
defensive linemen had some nice moments. I think that it's

716
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,000
a unit that you're trying to get some young guys

717
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:23,360
to be able to step up to give you some

718
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,639
real depth there because you do have some older players

719
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,960
that are gonna be in your starting unit. I thought

720
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Danny Stutsman looked great. I thought in coverage, Danny Stutsman

721
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480
looked great. And look, I wasn't really sure. I like

722
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,159
he's kind of an old school neck role wearing meat

723
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,800
head linebacker, which I love. But I was like, Okay,

724
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,440
well he's gonna be a run stuff or he's gonna

725
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,639
know that guy's athletic. He was great in coverage yesterday

726
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:47,880
at the linebacker position. He's gonna help. He's gonna help

727
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,480
this year. And I'm not wishing injury on anybody, but

728
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,360
the Saints have had some linebackers, mainly Pete Warner, who

729
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,719
have been in and out of the lineup, and Pete's

730
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,320
kind of like Sean Lee used to be, Like Pete

731
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,920
knows one speed in his he kind of fails him

732
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,280
because of it. But like Danny Setzman is going to

733
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,039
play some meaningful downs for the Saints. And so when

734
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,320
you look at the Chargers yesterday, I mean, they've got

735
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,960
a playoff quarterback in there, and heinike like he's played

736
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,960
playoff games and went toe to toe with Tom Brady

737
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,679
and almost beat him.

738
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: In the playoffs.

739
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,079
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's not the best quarterback, but he's a

740
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,280
you know, air quote backup. Had started a playoff game, okay,

741
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,559
and he looked bad yesterday. Now, Trey Lance, that's a

742
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,760
little bit different. You know, he had some great plays

743
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,079
with his legs. His arm is the reason he's not

744
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,079
a starting quarterback even after being a top three pick.

745
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,280
But still there was nowhere to throw the football, so

746
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,199
that is encouraging. Like the Saints defense actually did some

747
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,920
nice things. Yards per pass for the Chargers only four

748
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,719
point three. I mean they did a little bit on

749
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,639
the ground. Chargers had thirty four carries one hundred and

750
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,639
forty eight yards for zero point four.

751
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: Yards per carry.

752
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 5: You did, you did okay ish on down, But the

753
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,840
defense was really the only place that you can look

754
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,519
and pick up some real positives from like position groups,

755
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:08,559
like the defensive backs, like as a whole, I thought

756
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,119
they had a nice day. There was some spots on

757
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,840
the defensive line that had nice day. Isaiah Foski still

758
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,119
doesn't give me anything. And you're hoping he's out there

759
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:18,679
starting the game. You're hoping he'd give you something. Still

760
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000
don't see it. But if you want me to pick

761
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,280
a positive the defensive back room, which had some question

762
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,480
marks still does they played pretty well?

763
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? The what they score? What was the score at halftime?

764
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: Nine three, nine to three.

765
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I I watched a little bit of the defense.

766
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,239
I know it's got some QB energy here on the

767
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,679
side of the table. I kind of kind of watched

768
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,320
a lot of the offense. But what happened when I

769
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,280
did watch nothing stuck out to me on defense, which

770
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,119
is a good thing. Yeah, Like, there wasn't any glaring gaps,

771
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,920
there were any glaring mistakes and anything like that. I saw.

772
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:05,599
I saw a good, hard defense. And I think that

773
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:09,960
the offense in the run game in alignment looks so

774
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,360
bad that the defense does stick out as the most

775
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,039
positive thing. So, I mean, especially with a defensive backfield

776
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,519
that got a huge shake up right before training camp

777
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:24,159
with Tyre Matthew retiring, but they played their tails off.

778
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,280
So oh yeah, a lot to be positive about on that.

779
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,840
Let me ask you this, the offense and not the struggles,

780
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719
how much stock do you put into that? It was

781
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,480
the Chargers second game versus Saints' first game, A little

782
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,079
bit different game speed, maybe a little bit different, maybe

783
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,639
a little bit more callous, a little bit an extra

784
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,480
week of camp as well. Yeah, maybe just playing a

785
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,559
little half step faster.

786
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, physicality is going to be probably right a little bit.

787
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: Like I mean, in the NFL, your professionals, it shouldn't

788
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,800
make that big of a difference, but.

789
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: Not as much as it did. But it's probably something

790
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:00,000
a little.

791
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,039
Speaker 2: Too that you think. So we'll juice it though, maybe

792
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,119
I hope. Yeah, let's be positive. Yeah, absolutely, I mean

793
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,239
it was just guys, it was a Chargers second game.

794
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Of course they're going to be better than this.

795
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,039
Speaker 5: I don't know if it matters how many games the

796
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,280
opponent played when you don't take a kick step, but yeah,

797
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
I mean to your point, the physicality of it, maybe

798
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,599
maybe so. But again, like the Saints defensive backs, that certainly,

799
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,599
to me was the most positive thing if you're a

800
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,440
Saints fan that you can take away from that game.

801
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,639
Jalen Ford also had a good game after having some

802
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,360
really good practices this week, linebacker from Texas.

803
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: Again, like it's a room that's you.

804
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,559
Speaker 5: Know, kind of established and you kind of know who

805
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:39,239
the starters are going to be. But that's somebody that

806
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,960
I thought had a really good game as well. So linebackers,

807
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:46,960
defensive backs certainly passing grades. Defensive line a little bit

808
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,679
of a mixed bag, but definitely felt better about the

809
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,159
defense than we did the offense. And remember a new

810
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,199
defense coordinator as well, so like it's only in theory

811
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,280
going to get better as you have more reps together.

812
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Brandon Staley, who was the try Archer's head coach, is

813
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,639
now your defensive coordinator. So kulaim Kinstry also had a

814
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,679
couple of nice It wasn't a lot. It's probably about

815
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,039
ten plays, but he flashed to me once or twice.

816
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,159
Speaker 2: All right, Well, golf clap for the defense. Well, golf clap.

817
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: All right, we'll take our last break of hour number one.

818
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,719
When we come back here, it is to be a

819
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Speaker 1: Com, Tigers Turn Talkers. This is off the bench, all.

844
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Speaker 5: Right, welcome back to GANOTB one h four five, ESPN

845
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bat Rouge. All right, So obviously we talked a lot

846
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of saints here in our number one kind of wrap

847
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up this conversation. We got Taylor's top three coming up

848
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at the top. We've got our OTB Top twenty five

849
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as well. I think we're down what to number seventeen,

850
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So alone is gonna give you the seventeenth ranked team

851
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in the OTB preseason Top twenty five. So kind of

852
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:33,119
closing thoughts real quick here. For the Saints game was bad.

853
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:37,320
There was things that should not have happened with veteran

854
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,920
players that did. But if you can find a way

855
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,480
to practice against the LA Rams this week and you

856
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:49,320
don't do it, that's very disappointing. And I think you're

857
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920
doing your team a disservice. And I realize health comes

858
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,880
into it, but you need it. You need it in

859
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,039
the worst way because where the Rams are good, you're bad.

860
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Speaker 3: And I think that.

861
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Speaker 5: Would help you continue to try to build to something

862
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:08,679
that can look like an NFL offense and an NFL team.

863
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get better iron sharp and iron right, you

864
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,119
get better by playing people that are better at the coach.

865
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,079
Yeah you like that, You like that coach Duck iron sharp,

866
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iron boys. Yeah, you need to play somebody better than you.

867
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:23,920
You need to practice against someone better than you. And

868
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,480
I'm not a proponent of intersquad practices. I never did it.

869
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,079
I always dreaded it, I never wanted to do it,

870
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,639
and I never did it. I just bounced around too much,

871
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you know what I mean?

872
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Speaker 3: Uh, But I think our listeners do.

873
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is uh. I think it might

874
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be the time to do it. You need to play

875
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some people that are that are personnel wise in different

876
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positions better than you to make you better. So yeah,

877
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,559
I'd like to see it happen. But those offensive linemen

878
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,400
need some live work this week in practice.

879
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,599
Speaker 5: All right, So when we come back, we'll actually give

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you the number seventeen team and the OTB top twenty five.

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