Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
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Speaker 2: Color A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler, Dots jeep Ram.
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 2: Thank you for getting your pot up, Thanks for telling
a friend, and that's how we spread the word about
the pirate ship. Very excited because Danny's here and I actually,
Danny's a good one in to have uh in tonight because.
Speaker 1: I'm always a good one to have you. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm like the number one guest Jaz, not even a
guess Mary, like a fabric of the show. Yes, Kevin
and I are like the fabric.
Speaker 2: You and Kevin art the fabric.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: You and Kevin are the fabric of the show, have
become the fabric of my lives.
Speaker 3: We are no in a very good way.
Speaker 1: I would to help you move to you said.
Speaker 3: No, I did, and I uh, nope, I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: It's got the van for Victor Chrysler does cheap.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm I'm aware, but that no, no, so uh,
I don't know if it's like kind of the weather
stuff or what, but I have been I was kind
of I got numb today And there's a reason sort
of why. But we've had a lot of this flash
like these intense downpourts that we usually don't get in
western New York as a regular occurrence. And I've noticed
a weather pattern over the past couple of years is
wind Like we get these wild winds in the winter
and especially turning into spring, and then summer doesn't really
begin here. It just shows up.
Speaker 3: One day.
Speaker 2: You step outside, a fuck, it's ninety degrees Outlass dance school. Yeah.
So but yesterday it just downpoured right, Yes, and my
friends very depressive doctor Rob Rice, who was it was
not a bad day up to that point. It was
about three third in the afternoon. Doctor Rob Brice, who
was a h was on the podcast. And I went
to Fisher last night to speak at something that he
was had was hosting and put together for a graduate
level class. And he's shown me videos of his yard
like he go. He sends a message on Facebook if
you find my pool filter in your yard, please let
me know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to see this.
Speaker 2: It is and it's roaring through and it floods. It's
that whole Rondoquoit Creek if you go through Powder Mills Park.
Speaker 3: And these are specific destinations. The hills at Pittsford.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a peaceful, quite little town except what it.
Speaker 3: I mean it was, but this rain, I mean, Henrietta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told my wife. So, my wife was on
the way home from school yesterday. I go, all right,
be careful, it's poring. She goes, it is. She works like,
you know, along the lake, let's see. Yeah, and uh
she gets she goes, oh my goodness, you're not joking, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just came down and hard.
Speaker 1: For a while, she was waiting for an arc joke,
but I didn't give her one. You know, it's pretty
hacked for me to deliver oh two of a remunable
It was pooring, man, it was freaking poring, Like, yeah,
this is how I want summer to start, I know,
because he just had nine freaking months of winter, and
then your winter like creeps in and sticks around like
that unwonted neighbor or guest. Yeah all right, and then
summer shows up like you know, just one day randomly.
Speaker 2: Well, next June.
Speaker 3: I think Sunday it's gonna be ninety degrees.
Speaker 1: All right, I hope so. And the people already bitching
about the freaking heat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to hear no, no, no, it's
not the heat. Dam you got it. It is, and
I'm gonna tell you like today, I I've had a
lot of sinus issues and I took h I washed
my sinuses out, which sounds really gross, but I do
it in the morning and at night.
Speaker 1: Make sure you use uh special water for that.
Speaker 2: I used distilled water with uh.
Speaker 1: Don't use sailing and that's serious. Don't use tap on,
use distilled water.
Speaker 2: So yeah, get into me, bin it'll So I'm standing
there and all of a sudden, my equilibrium went off,
and I'm my vision is going like this where you
just see it like an old fashioned TV. I I've
had this happen before. Not because of that, but I've
had it. And they call it vertigous migraines. I'm not sure.
So I had to just kind of stand there and
regain my balance for a second, and then uh it forever.
Speaker 1: All day I'm in a chair in fair and I'm
safe all day.
Speaker 2: I've been sort of off and I, I haven't seen you,
uh since the weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, missed you? You missed me too, Yeah, I bet?
Speaker 3: And Uh I.
Speaker 2: Called my dad on Father's Day and I had waited
because mornings are My dad has Parkedson's He's now living
in an assisted living center in Maine, in Kenny Bunk,
and uh, I waited for a period of time to
call him because I know mornings are kind of rough.
But then around nine o'clock, I'm like, I should just
give him a call. Let's see. And I put on
the CBS Sunday Morning Show, and because I'm a little
bit selfish, I'm like, I want to see this piece
on Letterman because it was it was about Dave Letterman
being co owner of the Ray Hall Letterman racing for
Indy Car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's from Indy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and Dave has a huge car collection
and stuff.
Speaker 1: So those late night hosts they like to collect their cars.
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah yeah, Len Well Jay had Jay's garage.
Yeah after that Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, Yeah, you spent a diamond that money.
Speaker 3: So uh, I wanted to see that anyway.
Speaker 2: I and then at some point I just go, I
should call him now, and I called and I hear hello,
Oh can you hear me? And I said, yeah, can
you hear me? Bill? Are you there?
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, what's a matter. I'm in a desperate situation.
Speaker 2: And I go, okay, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna
hate yourself.
Speaker 1: Because your father, like you've always talked about your father,
is like he's he comes in with a lot of
pomp and circumstances. Every scenario. He has to like announce
the scenario before he gets like he's got to give
the preface or the or the and then like a
book has like a uh somebody that gives the opening, yeah,
you know, and then they go into the book. Yeah, yeah, okay,
that's fair.
Speaker 2: He uh So he's going, I'm in a desperate situation.
I I I can't move, and I go what I
I well, whatever happened? He locks up now and physically
can't move, and I guess he was sort of in
like a kneeling position alongside his bed. So he's like,
you gotta call your brother. So I call my brother.
And then I said, I'm going to call the front
desk as well and alert them. And the front desk
is like, well, I'll have to call the person on call.
And I'm like, let's just go down there. Yeah, And
then they go, well, because I think they need like
a medical person. You can't just move somebody, God forbid,
honestly because illegalities. Something happened. We need a union worker here. Yeah.
I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, but if you like,
all of a sudden tore his achilles or something, I
don't know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we had a non union nurse here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he and he's supposed to have this pen
and she said, well, why didn't he hit his call button.
I said, well, it's in the bathroom. She goes, no,
he has one that he should be wearing, and I said, oh,
I have no idea. I said, listen, I'm in Rochester.
I'm facilitating this. I just happened to be the one
that called. And I call him the next day to
see how he's doing, and he said, not much better
than yesterday. But you saved my life because I feel
like I would have been I don't know, who knows
how long I would have been there. And I'm like,
that's not true because someone would have called the wish
Happy Father's Day, but he couldn't reach to see the phone,
Like he couldn't turn his head to see the call,
but he could somehow answer it. I don't know what
the circumstances were. It sounds odd, but I don't know.
So as I'm on the phone, I call him back
and I can hear someone going, all right, we're going
to get someone into help. He goes, if you can
just get someone to put their arms underneath my armpits
and lift me up, And they're going, well, what if
we put you on the bottom, that'll work anything.
Speaker 3: So he's like really bad. And then I call him
the next day.
Speaker 2: And my dad was the kind of guy who would
put on a suit to get.
Speaker 3: The mail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean he was a sixth grade teacher, but he
always wore a suit and a tie every day, sometimes
a three piece suit.
Speaker 1: That's like the Jordan Peterson theory. Always look good, always
dressed for success.
Speaker 2: So it was just the way I was raised. As
I sit here in a T shirt and stuff, but
it's sort of my theory is to why I keep
a shirt on standby.
Speaker 1: And crisp iron shirt for the emergency.
Speaker 2: Roomy well, anywhere, I mean anywhere you want to have
a little dignity.
Speaker 3: So I'm I.
Speaker 2: I call him the next day and he's like, yeah,
I'm I'm how you doing. He goes, well, I slept
on the couch last night. Oh, couch is so cold.
Forgot how great that couches. But he wanted to be
up higher, and he said, listen, I I have been
stuck in this chair since nine o'clock. And I don't
know what time I was talking to him. I can't
remember because it had to be like towards the end
of the day. I'm thinking it had to be like
three thirty, goes I'm in my underwear still, And that's
not something you never My father never walking around the
house in his underwear. He walked around sometimes in the
morning with a robe, but he never walked around in
his underwear. He didn't wear pajamas, you know, so you
but he had a robe, which is never but you
never saw him like I don't think I've ever seen
I don't know that I've seen the man naked. At
probably at some point you busted in somewhere, but like
as a kid he came busting in the back. Dad.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see my father naked until about
three weeks before his death. Yeah, so then he at
that point did have much choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and your dignity is sort of gone and
you don't really care.
Speaker 1: He goes, Dan, It's like a twisted pretzel, isn't it.
Speaker 2: So he says, uh, so, my old man's like, you know,
we're talking, and he goes, I called your brother, he's
gonna come over after after work, and I said all right.
He goes, yeah, he goes, listen, uh, I'm dying and
I said, well, because he had, so they took him
to the hospital after the incident Father's Day.
Speaker 3: He was taken out in an ambulance.
Speaker 2: The guy checks out with pulses, great heart is fine,
you know, alert, but physically he's going, what is happening
to me? And I think what happens is you start
to realize that you don't want to live this way,
and you've lived your life and it's sort of towards
the end. So he said to me, look, I'm dying
and I said well, and he's like yeah, he goes,
but it's it's it's true. He goes, look, I'm gonna
every day I wake up, I'm I'm glad I'm here,
and I'm gonna take advantage of the day as best
I can, and uh so today I so.
Speaker 3: Then I guess. My brother called me this morning.
Speaker 2: He was on his way to on a special camping
trip with just his son and a bunch of guys going.
I guess it's a bunch of rich guys from what
I gathered. I'm only inferring that my brother didn't say that,
but they're all moose hunters and uh, craft beer drinkers,
probably craft beer drinking dudes.
Speaker 1: Where our guys socks in the summer.
Speaker 2: And they're fly fishermen. He just said to me, Yes,
some of these guys like to go on a they
want to on a fly fishing trip. And they flew
into a private lake, a secluded lake, and then had
to take like a basically.
Speaker 1: A ferry or something.
Speaker 2: No, they took a water taxi plane into this place
to where they fish.
Speaker 3: And I go, oh, yeah, I know those guys. I
know those guys. I know a couple of guys.
Speaker 2: Said do things like that, right, And so he's like yeah,
and it's just fathers and sons and where And it's
like three hours north of where he lives. So it's
almost like the top of Vermont and New Hampshire. You're
that high but still in Maine, and he said, listen.
I I said to Dad, you know he's not doing well.
And I said, yeah, I got that, and he goes.
I said to him, are you gonna be okay with
me mopping around? He goes, but I'm checking on him
every day, like I'm showing up every day, and I.
Speaker 3: Said, okay. He goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He said he thinks he has two months to live,
and he's been saying that and I would say to him,
he got two years. He goes, but I'm starting to
believe him. And I said, yeah, I get that. And
then my sister calls me today and said, listen, we
got to check in with Dad every day while Kevin's
out of town. And he goes and his wife is
taking their daughter somewhere and he goes. She said, just
you know, just check in with him, and I said, yeah.
So I get these random calls, but sometimes he butt
dials and then hangs up quick, and I don't I
don't know what's going on. You know, he's seventy nine,
he's got Parkinson's. He's gonna be eighty in October if
he makes it and oh my god. So I try
calling him and today and I happened to be with
someone and I said, uh, I go, I want you
to kind of hear this stuff, and he, uh so,
I get all.
Speaker 3: He calls me back and he said, and.
Speaker 2: It was probably I could have been five to seven minutes,
maybe ten minutes from the time I called him to
the time he called back.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And he said to me, I was trying to put
a quilt on the bed, and he said, I heard
the phone ringing in the other room. And he goes,
it took me that long to get from my bedroom
to the phone on the kitchen table. And I mean
we're talking a small, one bedroom place, right, So he
goes and he goes, and I'm out of breath and
I said, yeah, and he goes. I said, because he
keeps saying like I'm going to go back to the gym,
I'm getting back to the gym. And I think he's
slowly starting to realize, and I think we probably have
to consider a higher level of care for him, you
know what I mean, like instead of just assisted living,
like something else. Yes, And my brother wants to have
that call next week. So I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there,
and I won't reveal too much. I keep things a
term that I learned today, pocketed, meaning like I don't
share a lot of these things. But it was a
friend of mine and my father has met this person
and it's a woman. And I said, so and so
is here, and you could hear his whole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, oh yeah, this is an opportunity.
Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to show off a little bit,
you know what I mean, Like you could hear it,
and he had been. And I said to my brother earlier,
just as a little backtrack, uh not that my dad
never said it. He did, he would say I love you,
but he didn't. You didn't end phone calls. It was
usually with most of my calls over the last couple
of years. But well, good luck with it all, Willie.
That's what it was.
Speaker 3: It's now been I.
Speaker 2: Love you, and I said, yeah, I love you too,
and and and even on Father's Day. The amount of love,
the fact that you called when you did, I couldn't
have come at a better time. I was in so
much pain. I was in so much pain. My dad
once fell.
Speaker 3: This is terrible. But like I think back on things.
But my dad, uh, they.
Speaker 2: I don't know. They weren't hoarders, but they had a
lot of shit and they just collected. It was in
the back of the basement. So he decided to clean
out the basement and he got a dumpster and that
got filled and it was like seven hundred dollars to
empty the dumpster. So then he just started burning things
in the backyard and he tripped and fell into the
fire and burned both hands really really really badly. Didn't
I tell you the story that one? Oh, I didn't
tell you this. This is like, so I wasn't living
at home, and I don't know where.
Speaker 1: My brother before the house burned down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know where my brother was. But
he goes, hey, Mom just called and said Dad fell
into the fire and his hands are all bandaged up
like oversize oven mittens, and she's going to get him
pain medication.
Speaker 3: I go, hang up, I'm gonna call I see along,
takes some.
Speaker 2: Dance to the phone.
Speaker 3: And we did.
Speaker 2: You heard about like we like dicky things like that,
dicky dicky dicky, dumb dicky dicky things. That's like dumb, right,
that's mean. But he said to me. That was a
ten on the pain scale. Father's Day was an eight.
By comparison, I was in that much pain. Yeah, I
mean just think about it. Anytime you go to the
doctor they ask in a pain scale you if you're
being really honest, you're like, so, I feel like then
you're you're holding the gun to my head, going what's
the pain? And I will say a five if it's
really a five, and that you know, but it hurts,
A five hurts, six hurts.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going okay.
Speaker 2: So today I call him and he when I say,
you know, by the way, so and so I can
hear you, and he's like, oh, And I said, yeah,
really thinks you're very funny, and he is. He's very
very funny without sometimes even realizing it. And he goes, oh,
did I tell you about the hospital? And you gotta
picture this because if I say it, it sounds like
an old man joke. But if you can put it
into context of the moment, what they're trying to do,
and just what the only thing that's funny is the unexpected, right,
The unexpected is what makes something funny if you see
it coming. Sometimes he can still be funny, like I
can see sometimes they coming and I start laughing because
I can see it coming.
Speaker 3: But with these things.
Speaker 2: So he said, you know, I have a million tests,
and he goes in every room, They're bringing me into
a they're putting me in the MRI machine, and they're
asking me my name, do I know where I am?
What day of the week is it, what is your
date of birth? And where are you now? And he goes, so,
I'm going through on a mansion and they can say
where are you now? He goes, I'm in a gentleman's club, right,
And that's what he said, because I'm at a gentleman's club.
And he goes, and so the person laughs and then
he says, he goes, I uh, I don't know. It
was dark. I don't even remember faces, but that that
nurse remembered and she came back and she said, eh,
the gentleman's club. And he goes, I said, well, you're
very phonny. He goes, oh, and then he just said
to me again. You know, he just goes, Look it's
near the end of the show and he goes.
Speaker 3: It's been a great ride.
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, Dan, that kind of knocked
the wind out of my sales.
Speaker 3: I went home, and uh.
Speaker 2: I started to do some work for the podcast and
other things that I'm doing, and I gotta lay down
on like I gotta, I gotta shut it down for
a minute. And I went and laid down for like
forty five minutes, and uh, and then got up. And
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Speaker 3: But she was one of their top designers. She she
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Speaker 2: She worked for Adidas, Steve Madden, Steve Madden shoes and stuff.
She went viral for all the wrong reasons. She went viral.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was a text I apologized.
Speaker 2: I've been having my phone on do not disturb, but
because my dad will call at random times, I don't
want it on. Do not disturb because I don't hear it,
but when I'm doing the podcast to put it on.
Do not disturb when I'm in certain situations. But anyway,
so a text came in from somebody on the podcast
making some ridiculous comment, not.
Speaker 3: About the show that we're doing.
Speaker 2: So this woman went viral after a drunken, violent meltdown
on Southwest Airlines and here his said, melt down.
Speaker 3: Let me see if I have the right thing.
Speaker 2: Don't tell. Okay, So this woman comes on the plane
and apparently refuses to sit next to someone on Southwest
because they're too fat. And the woman doesn't look that fat.
I mean, she really didn't hard to tell.
Speaker 1: She could just be big boned.
Speaker 2: She doesn't look fat, but it's hard to tell. From
the camera angle. This is being filmed from behind the
fat woman. This woman is now over her seat and
the alleged I will say alleged fat woman has a
mask on, like a COVID mask or the masks that
we wore, Like I'm seeing a lot more people those. Yeah, yeah,
me too, I am and which okay, I you know.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but all right, you do you
if it gets you if you feel better, because I
know anxiety is a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree.
Speaker 1: I'll tell my wife. Yeah, I'm with you. But you
know what, my wife says the same thing about But
at the end of the day, if they have anxiety,
it makes them feel better, you know what.
Speaker 2: And maybe it keeps them healthier. I didn't get a
cold at time, and I've had a cold now for
a little while.
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
Speaker 2: Here's the lady on the plane, thirty two year old
Leanna Perry. They're trying to tell her not to touch
the fat lady. Who alleged fat lady. Let me say
that again. Who is she's? This woman is kneeling on
her seat, leaning over Okay, and in the face of
the alleged fat woman with now several three or four
US Yeah Southwest workers.
Speaker 1: And even a few baggage handlers.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just passengers setch No, this is her
asshole is look at her stone. Yeah, she grabs the hair,
grabs her by the hair. What the alleged fat woman?
Speaker 1: Okay said.
Speaker 2: She's got her hair like I mean, she's got.
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not even touching her hair.
Speaker 2: Bitch.
Speaker 1: Let go, you need to let go right now.
Speaker 2: This woman is like up against her head something like yeah,
I'm sorry. I didn't want to say next fallat go
over here. You guys are already passed. You already passed.
So primis you'll see me.
Speaker 3: You know what's Listen to what she says about her face.
Speaker 2: Put me on the ground. All right, Look at this
fat lady. Look at this fat ass bitch. She can't
even look. You gave us your stomach. That's horrible.
Speaker 1: Look at her, the bitch hilarious. You can't even show
your mouth because you're embarrassed.
Speaker 2: She's got the mask because you're embarrassed. Shut the fuck out. Sorry,
I can't hear you. I can't hear you, ugly ass.
Fucking dude. He's never had a lay it again, I think. Sorry,
black guy, my boyfriend's black. Shut my boyfriend is sucking
a black guy. My boyfriend's a black. My boyfriend's black.
My boyfriends a fucking black guy. All right, all right,
she's now spitting on the one up. Shut the fuck up,
Shut the I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: Shut the shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: I can't breathe. Yeah, they got her on the ground,
and that's just pulled the George Floyd cot all right,
so this woman has just completely lost her shit, and
I know she got on the plane drunk.
Speaker 3: I don't know what drug she was on.
Speaker 2: That's why I said she maybe going from maybe it's
maybe lean to maybe I need a lawyer.
Speaker 1: We guessed the apology. Yeah, sure, Like if I were
Steve Serku, how would I craft this defense letter?
Speaker 2: But you're seeing what seems like more and more extreme
behavior in planes, and we see everything now, we are
so hyper connected, we see every there you go back.
I'm gonna say, I feel like fifteen years ago, our
technology wasn't where I could go live from the plane,
and you know what I mean. I mean somebody probably
did or film it and upload it instantly. I mean,
this has been everywhere. Every newscast has had it then,
and so it just got picked up. But I mean
I'm seeing the raw stuff. I think at some point
in the video or one video, she yells at the woman,
I'm sorry that your husband has a two inch dick
or whatever. But I'm going, how does nobody and I
go this? There must be something wrong with me, because
I always think if your first instinct is to hit,
there's something.
Speaker 3: Wrong with you.
Speaker 2: But if she had my girlfriend, wife, partner or whatever
buy the hair and she's pulling it and she's not
letting go, I am punching that woman square in the
fucking face, and I'm hitting to knock her out. I'm
not hitting to just be like hey, like a little
slap on the face. No, I'm fucking getting up and
I'm not going. I'm going. I mean if I need
to come with an upper cut to just knock your
jaw off, and I'm like, nobody does that, nobody does it,
And I go in the end, it's probably the right
thing to do. Yes, I mean, she's got her by
the head.
Speaker 3: You gotta it's.
Speaker 1: Insanity, gout y'all, just because she didn't want to sit
next to allegedly allegedly affect woman.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then women didn't. I mean she didn't even
look she didn't look plump. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to this. I just
I mean, we we I mean we we see this
because they make the news now, right, I don't think
these things happens often. They just happened, and we remember
the last time it happened, and it feels like yesterday, right.
Speaker 2: Well, there was just like you go on there, type
in go on, just type in in Google and you're right.
Airplane No, just I put in Southwest meltdown. I guess
some guy must sit down over somebody's baby videos of
the Southwest.
Speaker 1: Okay, so their spirit then there's Southwest's gonna give you
right now? Okay, are you gonna rank the airlines that
most likely this is gonna happen? I'm telling you those
are the ones. It's like people of Walmart. It is
people of passengers.
Speaker 2: Of Southwest starting to think if you want incident free
flights saying they can't.
Speaker 1: Happen on other flights, you gotta go to Delta.
Speaker 3: You've got to know, you gotta go first class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's somebody in the back's
not going to start a problem and get off se.
Speaker 3: I don't see why is that?
Speaker 2: Why do people who are like paining a little bit
more aren't fucked.
Speaker 1: Up because they know much, they know how much it's worth.
I don't know really Southwest at least last time. So
the first time I've ever got in a plane was
with Tom mulay and you I was twenty nine. Okay,
how was it even? And your wife at the time
explained to me Southwest is a cattle call, so you
have to check in and then you get whatever seat
you get based on when you're called up to go
in the line. There's no assigned seats. It's just you
just go and just pick your seat or whatever. So
a lot of people just like sit down and the people
whoever who are left have to sit next to somebody
because there's always like everyone wants their own space, right,
so you're gonna be stuck sitting next to somebody you
probably wouldn't choose normally.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, if I'm flying alone, I'm going
like probably the cheapest and a lot of times what
I'll do is I will not Like most of my
recent flights were to see Jamison when he was in Alabama,
and I would always try to fly in the Huntsville
instead of Nashville. Southwest is a Nashville is a hub
in Nashville. Nashville's a hub for Southwest. Yes, Buffalo too, Huntsville.
I would I would always go like American to Charlotte
and over. I never had an issue, but I can
tell you the Southwest flights they're not that much cheaper. No,
they're really not.
Speaker 1: Bags don't fly free anymore.
Speaker 3: No, they don't.
Speaker 2: And so and I'm not saying Southwest is a bad airline.
They couldn't be around right as long as they have
and become the brand. Is that though, And I swear
to God, there is something I don't I don't get it.
I think you got.
Speaker 1: I hate saying this, but I would fly Southwest. I
have no problems with it because a lot of they're
like direct flights like Buffalo to Vegas. Oh yeah, I'll
do that. You'll stop please, I think I'll do that.
I think it's probably the best of the rest, if
that makes sense. Southwest it's not a bad airline at all,
but you're going to get that level of insophistication in
your passenger versus a Delta or United. I'm an American airline.
Speaker 2: Yes, Or I'll say this if what airline are you
more likely to see people in pajamas and slippers on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Southwest it's like the Walmart airlines.
Speaker 2: Southwestern Spirit right, our Frontier right looks like what is okay?
Speaker 1: Genic Target everything? Oh the Tarja they have so much
cool stuff. Okay. My sister when we lived together, she
would buy a lot of her furniture from Target, and
he did a study and they found out that while
people think it's cheek to shop at Target, their stuff breaks,
whereas Walmart stuff doesn't break as often. It actually is sturdier.
And this was fifteen years ago, sturdier and better. But
because it was targeted, it was very sophisticated. But if
you go to Walmart or a Target, you're seeing the
same clientele no matter what, especially at the cash register. Okay,
it's the same look.
Speaker 2: Look I don't say okay, pajamas And I'm judging, and
I'm being mean and all this, but this is it's
people people that I'm judging. I'm judging. I'm judging if
I see a lot of pajamas. And I'll tell you what.
I can tell a lot about the neighborhood by the
number of self checkouts that are open in the Walmart.
When I go to certain parts of where we live,
they don't they to self checkout out. Everybody was stealing, Yes,
that's all I'll say. And I can tell and I
know it sounds shitty and you're gonna going no, it's
a fact. It's a fact. It's a fact that.
Speaker 1: He's a gentleman. Stereotypes exists for a reason. It doesn't
mean they're always right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I can go a little bit of shame goes
a far away. I will ask you this, and in
a real almost philosophical way, this is feeds our need
for shaming. This woman can't deny what she did, or
she may not. She may be in such a state,
and who knows if she's on prescription meds and drinking
and that really fucked her up. Who knows. Let's say
she didn't even.
Speaker 1: Do that, but she had, Like this is gonna be
her response.
Speaker 2: But she she can't deny what she did, and she
has to see it herself. And everybody she knows has
seen it, everybody she works with, everybody she's.
Speaker 3: Related to, everybody has seen this.
Speaker 2: Her family has gotten calls about this, right, I mean,
it's bad, And I go, what happens when someone's worst
moment becomes their most famous moment and that's all they're
sort of remembered for. I wanted to tell you about
bt B because I got a hold of their summer menu.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, summer brunch.
Speaker 2: Well, we are going to do the brunch. Some brunch
makes me, which is your great idea to do.
Speaker 1: The had another big t. I don't try to rhyme
the song.
Speaker 2: But they so you've got they do great co cocktails
to match the season. So they're gonna they have the
Ocean Breeze bucket. Ocean Breeze bucket.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 2: It's a blue chair, coconut rum. Oh, Loganberry vodka. Oh
Buffalo blue is it? Logan Berry's made in Buffalo?
Speaker 3: Did not know?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Buffalo's known for three foods wings weck and loganberry.
Speaker 2: Uh, loganberry, blueberry syrup, pineapple juice and starry. Oh refill
the same day discount and starry, it says, Ocean Breeze bucket. Oh,
the picnic juice bucket. So I wonder if they come
in like little buckets. Oh yeah probably. Oh god, great
summer melon. They've got these? Sound great? And then martiniz
of the season. Well they got to the food yet, no,
so well I had this lunch yet. Let me tell
you the street corn chicken bowl sounds amazing. It's black
and chicken. Ooh, and it has a kick. Mexican street corn,
sliced avocado over rice and creamy Jalapano cream drizzle, which
sounds just amazing to me. I love that kind of stuff.
The Texas potato which I've had. Oh it is a
huge potato and I'm talking to the size of your head,
stuffed with cheese, bacon, smoked pulled pork, and a sour
cream drizzle. It is so damn good, so damn good.
Go to bTB roc dot com. They'll have the menu there.
Beginning of August, or actually the middle of August. They
are going to have that concert with the M eight
s and the Zach Bryant Tribute band. Yeah, and it's
just gonna be a hell of a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: And they do it right out there. They just do.
It's a great atmosphere. That brunch is off the chain.
Speaker 2: And we will let you know when we were doing
a brunch cast, but we plan to do two this
summer on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: Cool brunch cast.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: bTB would fire pizza and grill in the mall at
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Speaker 1: I'm really become skeptical over the last month about things.
Speaker 3: About what about everything? Like what now?
Speaker 1: After the last podcast we taped, I'm like, I walked
away going do I really think all this stuff. Don't
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: You said things that I.
Speaker 2: I I won't say it here, but I have a
theory on it. I have a theory on some stuff
with you. Go on, you want to hear it for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it bad?
Speaker 3: Not necessarily?
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think you said things like this, if it is bad,
go ahead. I think you said things like the stephen A.
Smith thing. And you're like, when did when the midday
talk show becomes when.
Speaker 1: The midday talk when the midday audience dictates the national conversation,
we have a problem.
Speaker 3: But here was my thing is? I want to go
But it's not. It's not the midday audience anymore.
Speaker 2: And don't forget. You've got a lot of people will
still work remotely and you still so they have TVs on.
I remember walking into offices of GMS and stuff and
they had ESPN on all the time. But now, just
like with our podcast, clips get out there and so
people see it and it's on your phone, and so
I get a lunch break and I go and I
watch it, and I don't think it's the people that
you're describing, as we'll call them the Southwest people. Maybe order,
but I don't think it's it's necessarily a lot of those.
And I know what you mean. You're not wrong, but
I think you're wrong for our time today, I don't
think that is the case. And that guy transcends that.
He's also on the NBA stuff, he's on the Howard
Stern Show, he's written a book recently, he's gotten a
lot of press, so it transcends just that thing. And
I don't think he's necessarily digging. Because I started to
thinking about it, I go if I went out on
the street and asked twenty five people, who is Stephen A.
Speaker 3: Smith?
Speaker 2: Just random people, I mean, all walks of life, I
think I would get more often than not. I don't know,
or isn't he that guy who?
Speaker 3: And that's it?
Speaker 2: But I don't know that people are all that locked
in as you are. And I think that you get
angry at these guys because you believe.
Speaker 3: You're as good.
Speaker 2: And didn't get your chance. And I think that that's
a fair thing to say. I think I think this
stuff you write for the Times Wayne County is excellent.
I think when you're talking like the bills even here,
sometimes I wish you'd take a fucking breath.
Speaker 3: You're like a freight train going through.
Speaker 2: But your stuff is all well thought out, really really,
I mean it's really good.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: And I'm not just blowing smoke up your grass and
people go, you're just kissing it. No, I'm no reason to,
I have no reason to none. But the point is, like,
it is really good. And I think that you get
pissed when you see these other guys because you got
kind of boned along the way or whatever caught up.
It's not, but it's that that I think held you back.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I mean, let's put
it this way. Ice play in a band. I had
a drummer named Ian. Ian is a guy who is
easily the most talented drummer in Rochester. And there's nobody
even close. Nobody even close. Yeah, but I know, and
I know that there's people in town who will like
hate me for saying that. No, just just just drum
against him. If he's sober or even if he's in
the bag. He could play anything like rush like you
name it. Every beat Neil Peart can play, he could play.
And I think along the line in Los Angeles, he
missed a turn somewhere and ended up just working as
a cover band drummer and just you know, end up
here because of family reasons or whatever. The guy's phenomenal.
I think somewhere along the line, I had an opportunity
I didn't take and I missed a turn somewhere, and
I wish I had taken it. But I didn't take
it out of fear. And it wasn't because I was
afraid that I couldn't perform. I was afraid of logistics
in a situation, a living situation with my sister and
travel when I was broke, and I let my fears
overtake it, and then I've been I'd chased that dragon
ever since, or told myself, you know what'd rather do
this instead? Which was the break crow? Rather it was
but when you when you but like when you're in
your thirties and you're getting paid a producer's salary, which
isn't much, guys.
Speaker 3: Uh, it was, and I didn't know what it.
Speaker 1: Was. Eighteen to twenty four thousand dollars a year, Okay.
I started at eighteen, mind you, at twenty eight years old,
as an established who who already worked at another radio station
that did well a couple of them. Yeah, I mean
that that that's pover and stricken type of stuff. Like
Tommy used to call me the working poor, remember, and
it killed relationships, it drove me into And I'm like,
I own all the choices I made, Okay, I want
to be perfectly clear about that. And I don't blame
anybody else for anything. It's just it's this was all Dan.
But yeah, I do get frustrated because I watched these
guys and by the way, Steven A. Smith is more
talented than I am. That's not what I mean. But
I watched their opinions. I'm like, do you do your homework?
And then I watched local guys and listen to local
guys and I'm not talking just Rochester, I'm talking Buffalo.
Speaker 2: What the f I know?
Speaker 1: Do you know how to ask a question at a
press conference? My favorite moment in my career, well do this.
As far as sports goes, I love to working with
Brad Davies, I love doing sports at CMF. I love
doing a talk show. But my favorite moment Tiger Woods
is in town for the PGA Championship and you and
I are credentialed. Peter Montemurno is sitting next to us.
We're in the press room. Tiger's about to speak, and
the station that had, you know, laid me off was
right behind this whim and they had ten guys there,
including the guys from Channel thirteen, and the MIC's going
around and all these national reporters are asking questions and
I put my hand up. I want to ask Tiger
a question. And I can hear a little Okay, that's good, yeah, right,
I grabbed the mic and I go, hey, Tiger here.
Michael Jordan always said that he felt bad for his
children because they're always expected to live up to him.
Do you have any advice for your son Charlie if
he's going to go into golf? And what advice would
that be? And he gave a two and a half
minute answer that went viral before viral became the thing.
And I wanted to look back at those guys, and
then you said the sports Leader, not a single one
of you, mother effors asked a single question.
Speaker 2: Because I will fight for the I know the people
that But I was like, but I had no business,
I had no business.
Speaker 1: No, But I'm glad you said it because I wanted
to say it, and I just didn't say it.
Speaker 2: I know, but I had no business projecting defending, like
fighting your.
Speaker 3: Battle, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Well. I would get mad because I thought you, when
it came to the sports stuff was good. I think
sometimes you run away, and I think sometimes you're the
bitterness you feel, the anger about this stuff is read.
Speaker 3: I do think that.
Speaker 2: I think if you were able to touch it, it's
like volcanic level red hot. I know what that's like,
trust me, yes, and I can see it. And I
think sometimes that stuff, that frustration was what other people
saw and saw as well.
Speaker 3: He just kind of flies off. He doesn't, he's not
you know, and it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got it. I got a reputation for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's the problem.
Speaker 2: That's why I keep saying to you, do whatever you want,
I'll help you do it. I mean, not that I'm
going to be able to help you, but you're here.
I love having you on. If you wanted to do
your own thing and you wanted to do it through here,
you can. If you don't want to do through here,
you don't have to.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that leading up the football season.
It's finding the time and your ability to do it, even.
Speaker 3: If you did a fifteen minute podcast. Believe me, people, I.
Speaker 2: Mean ours is long. When I talk to people, go,
that's a long time.
Speaker 3: It is, And I get it. I got a lot
of stupid things I say.
Speaker 2: But just I mean, if you were able to condense
it down and keep it to that tight thing you
know inside Dan's head or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could go.
Speaker 2: I think you could really blow up, especially if it
was done the right way.
Speaker 3: And it's just the thought.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna wrap it up. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: For Dan Burrell.
Speaker 1: Oh, pray for your dad, Billy.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I don't know what to pray for.
Do you understand what I'm saying. I just go, I
just pray. I guess that the ability for him to
handle every day. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 1: Give him a strength to handle each day until you
call him home.
Speaker 2: I my thing would be, I know.
Speaker 1: People were praying for death for their loved ones, and
I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: No, I understand because sometimes it's the best option. Yes,
my thing would be for that keep I would I
want him to.
Speaker 3: Keep his dignity.
Speaker 2: He's a proud he is a true gentleman. I've had
people say to me that, you know, there are things
that I do that I don't even instinctly go away,
you're really a gentleman. And I was like, well, that's
how you were raised, That's how I was raised. I
tried to raise my boys that way. I'm not sure
that I did a good job. But he is a true,
true gentleman, like an old school gentleman. And like I
remember even going to grandparents' day at one of the
kids' schools when they were teenagers. Three piece suit, tweet,
three piece suit, you know, I mean the guy and
he was a new mismanners guide to perfect etiquette and
would make jokes about it but knew it, and I
mean he was And so I go, in the end,
may he please be able to preserve the dignity all
the way.
Speaker 1: Sana says, you're not supposed to wait for everyone to
get served, you just eat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that was the other thing, like,
oh yeah, yeah, I was a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry, give me my scotch.
Speaker 2: And he's still here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm talking like he's gone.
Speaker 2: He's not.
Speaker 3: He's still here.
Speaker 2: Should we do living funerals.
Speaker 1: Should it be our next? Betch?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 2: Remember we did? Didn't we do?
Speaker 3: Oh no?
Speaker 2: We did obituary. Bit bituary for Dan Barilla. I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you Monday. I was never paying nothing, but
as anyway, it wasn't there. But they didn't do the
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