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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 2: Color A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio

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in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler, Dots jeep Ram.

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It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for getting your pot up, Thanks for telling

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a friend, and that's how we spread the word about

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the pirate ship. Very excited because Danny's here and I actually,

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Danny's a good one in to have uh in tonight because.

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Speaker 1: I'm always a good one to have you. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: No, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I'm like the number one guest Jaz, not even a

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guess Mary, like a fabric of the show. Yes, Kevin

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and I are like the fabric.

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Speaker 2: You and Kevin art the fabric.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 2: You and Kevin are the fabric of the show, have

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become the fabric of my lives.

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Speaker 3: We are no in a very good way.

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Speaker 1: I would to help you move to you said.

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Speaker 3: No, I did, and I uh, nope, I didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: It's got the van for Victor Chrysler does cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm I'm aware, but that no, no, so uh,

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I don't know if it's like kind of the weather

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stuff or what, but I have been I was kind

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of I got numb today And there's a reason sort

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of why. But we've had a lot of this flash

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like these intense downpourts that we usually don't get in

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western New York as a regular occurrence. And I've noticed

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a weather pattern over the past couple of years is

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wind Like we get these wild winds in the winter

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and especially turning into spring, and then summer doesn't really

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begin here. It just shows up.

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Speaker 3: One day.

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Speaker 2: You step outside, a fuck, it's ninety degrees Outlass dance school. Yeah.

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So but yesterday it just downpoured right, Yes, and my

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friends very depressive doctor Rob Rice, who was it was

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not a bad day up to that point. It was

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about three third in the afternoon. Doctor Rob Brice, who

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was a h was on the podcast. And I went

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to Fisher last night to speak at something that he

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was had was hosting and put together for a graduate

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level class. And he's shown me videos of his yard

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like he go. He sends a message on Facebook if

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you find my pool filter in your yard, please let

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me know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to see this.

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Speaker 2: It is and it's roaring through and it floods. It's

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that whole Rondoquoit Creek if you go through Powder Mills Park.

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Speaker 3: And these are specific destinations. The hills at Pittsford.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a peaceful, quite little town except what it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was, but this rain, I mean, Henrietta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I told my wife. So, my wife was on

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the way home from school yesterday. I go, all right,

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be careful, it's poring. She goes, it is. She works like,

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you know, along the lake, let's see. Yeah, and uh

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she gets she goes, oh my goodness, you're not joking, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it just came down and hard.

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Speaker 1: For a while, she was waiting for an arc joke,

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but I didn't give her one. You know, it's pretty

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hacked for me to deliver oh two of a remunable

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It was pooring, man, it was freaking poring, Like, yeah,

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this is how I want summer to start, I know,

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because he just had nine freaking months of winter, and

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then your winter like creeps in and sticks around like

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that unwonted neighbor or guest. Yeah all right, and then

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summer shows up like you know, just one day randomly.

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Speaker 2: Well, next June.

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Speaker 3: I think Sunday it's gonna be ninety degrees.

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Speaker 1: All right, I hope so. And the people already bitching

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about the freaking heat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to hear no, no, no, it's

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not the heat. Dam you got it. It is, and

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I'm gonna tell you like today, I I've had a

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lot of sinus issues and I took h I washed

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my sinuses out, which sounds really gross, but I do

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it in the morning and at night.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you use uh special water for that.

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Speaker 2: I used distilled water with uh.

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Speaker 1: Don't use sailing and that's serious. Don't use tap on,

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use distilled water.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, get into me, bin it'll So I'm standing

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there and all of a sudden, my equilibrium went off,

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and I'm my vision is going like this where you

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just see it like an old fashioned TV. I I've

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had this happen before. Not because of that, but I've

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had it. And they call it vertigous migraines. I'm not sure.

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regain my balance for a second, and then uh it forever.

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Speaker 1: All day I'm in a chair in fair and I'm

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safe all day.

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Speaker 2: I've been sort of off and I, I haven't seen you,

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uh since the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, missed you? You missed me too, Yeah, I bet?

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Speaker 3: And Uh I.

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Speaker 2: Called my dad on Father's Day and I had waited

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because mornings are My dad has Parkedson's He's now living

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in an assisted living center in Maine, in Kenny Bunk,

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and uh, I waited for a period of time to

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call him because I know mornings are kind of rough.

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But then around nine o'clock, I'm like, I should just

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give him a call. Let's see. And I put on

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the CBS Sunday Morning Show, and because I'm a little

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bit selfish, I'm like, I want to see this piece

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on Letterman because it was it was about Dave Letterman

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being co owner of the Ray Hall Letterman racing for

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Indy Car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's from Indy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and Dave has a huge car collection

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and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So those late night hosts they like to collect their cars.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah yeah, Len Well Jay had Jay's garage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah cool, Yeah, you spent a diamond that money.

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Speaker 3: So uh, I wanted to see that anyway.

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Speaker 2: I and then at some point I just go, I

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should call him now, and I called and I hear hello,

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Oh can you hear me? And I said, yeah, can

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you hear me? Bill? Are you there?

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, what's a matter. I'm in a desperate situation.

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Speaker 2: And I go, okay, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna

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hate yourself.

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Speaker 1: Because your father, like you've always talked about your father,

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is like he's he comes in with a lot of

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pomp and circumstances. Every scenario. He has to like announce

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the scenario before he gets like he's got to give

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the preface or the or the and then like a

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book has like a uh somebody that gives the opening, yeah,

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you know, and then they go into the book. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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that's fair.

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Speaker 2: He uh So he's going, I'm in a desperate situation.

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I I I can't move, and I go what I

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I well, whatever happened? He locks up now and physically

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can't move, and I guess he was sort of in

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like a kneeling position alongside his bed. So he's like,

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you gotta call your brother. So I call my brother.

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desk as well and alert them. And the front desk

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is like, well, I'll have to call the person on call.

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then they go, well, because I think they need like

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a medical person. You can't just move somebody, God forbid,

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honestly because illegalities. Something happened. We need a union worker here. Yeah.

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I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, but if you like,

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all of a sudden tore his achilles or something, I

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don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we had a non union nurse here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he and he's supposed to have this pen

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and she said, well, why didn't he hit his call button.

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I said, well, it's in the bathroom. She goes, no,

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he has one that he should be wearing, and I said, oh,

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I have no idea. I said, listen, I'm in Rochester.

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I'm facilitating this. I just happened to be the one

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that called. And I call him the next day to

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see how he's doing, and he said, not much better

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than yesterday. But you saved my life because I feel

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like I would have been I don't know, who knows

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how long I would have been there. And I'm like,

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that's not true because someone would have called the wish

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Happy Father's Day, but he couldn't reach to see the phone,

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but he could somehow answer it. I don't know what

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the circumstances were. It sounds odd, but I don't know.

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and I can hear someone going, all right, we're going

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to get someone into help. He goes, if you can

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just get someone to put their arms underneath my armpits

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and lift me up, And they're going, well, what if

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we put you on the bottom, that'll work anything.

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Speaker 3: So he's like really bad. And then I call him

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the next day.

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Speaker 2: And my dad was the kind of guy who would

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put on a suit to get.

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Speaker 3: The mail, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was a sixth grade teacher, but he

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always wore a suit and a tie every day, sometimes

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a three piece suit.

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Speaker 1: That's like the Jordan Peterson theory. Always look good, always

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dressed for success.

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Speaker 2: So it was just the way I was raised. As

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I sit here in a T shirt and stuff, but

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a shirt on standby.

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Speaker 1: And crisp iron shirt for the emergency.

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Speaker 2: Roomy well, anywhere, I mean anywhere you want to have

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a little dignity.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I.

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Speaker 2: I call him the next day and he's like, yeah,

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I'm I'm how you doing. He goes, well, I slept

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on the couch last night. Oh, couch is so cold.

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up higher, and he said, listen, I I have been

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stuck in this chair since nine o'clock. And I don't

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know what time I was talking to him. I can't

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remember because it had to be like towards the end

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of the day. I'm thinking it had to be like

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three thirty, goes I'm in my underwear still, And that's

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not something you never My father never walking around the

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house in his underwear. He walked around sometimes in the

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morning with a robe, but he never walked around in

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his underwear. He didn't wear pajamas, you know, so you

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but he had a robe, which is never but you

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never saw him like I don't think I've ever seen

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I don't know that I've seen the man naked. At

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probably at some point you busted in somewhere, but like

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as a kid he came busting in the back. Dad.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see my father naked until about

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three weeks before his death. Yeah, so then he at

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that point did have much choice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and your dignity is sort of gone and

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you don't really care.

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Speaker 1: He goes, Dan, It's like a twisted pretzel, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: So he says, uh, so, my old man's like, you know,

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we're talking, and he goes, I called your brother, he's

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gonna come over after after work, and I said all right.

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He goes, yeah, he goes, listen, uh, I'm dying and

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I said, well, because he had, so they took him

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to the hospital after the incident Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: He was taken out in an ambulance.

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Speaker 2: The guy checks out with pulses, great heart is fine,

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you know, alert, but physically he's going, what is happening

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to me? And I think what happens is you start

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to realize that you don't want to live this way,

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and you've lived your life and it's sort of towards

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the end. So he said to me, look, I'm dying

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and I said well, and he's like yeah, he goes,

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but it's it's it's true. He goes, look, I'm gonna

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every day I wake up, I'm I'm glad I'm here,

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and I'm gonna take advantage of the day as best

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I can, and uh so today I so.

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Speaker 3: Then I guess. My brother called me this morning.

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Speaker 2: He was on his way to on a special camping

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trip with just his son and a bunch of guys going.

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I guess it's a bunch of rich guys from what

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I gathered. I'm only inferring that my brother didn't say that,

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but they're all moose hunters and uh, craft beer drinkers,

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probably craft beer drinking dudes.

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Speaker 1: Where our guys socks in the summer.

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Speaker 2: And they're fly fishermen. He just said to me, Yes,

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some of these guys like to go on a they

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want to on a fly fishing trip. And they flew

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into a private lake, a secluded lake, and then had

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to take like a basically.

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Speaker 1: A ferry or something.

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Speaker 2: No, they took a water taxi plane into this place

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to where they fish.

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Speaker 3: And I go, oh, yeah, I know those guys. I

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know those guys. I know a couple of guys.

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Speaker 2: Said do things like that, right, And so he's like yeah,

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and it's just fathers and sons and where And it's

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like three hours north of where he lives. So it's

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almost like the top of Vermont and New Hampshire. You're

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that high but still in Maine, and he said, listen.

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I I said to Dad, you know he's not doing well.

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I said to him, are you gonna be okay with

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me mopping around? He goes, but I'm checking on him

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every day, like I'm showing up every day, and I.

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Speaker 3: Said, okay. He goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He said he thinks he has two months to live,

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and he's been saying that and I would say to him,

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he got two years. He goes, but I'm starting to

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believe him. And I said, yeah, I get that. And

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then my sister calls me today and said, listen, we

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got to check in with Dad every day while Kevin's

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out of town. And he goes and his wife is

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taking their daughter somewhere and he goes. She said, just

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you know, just check in with him, and I said, yeah.

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So I get these random calls, but sometimes he butt

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dials and then hangs up quick, and I don't I

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don't know what's going on. You know, he's seventy nine,

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he's got Parkinson's. He's gonna be eighty in October if

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he makes it and oh my god. So I try

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calling him and today and I happened to be with

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someone and I said, uh, I go, I want you

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to kind of hear this stuff, and he, uh so,

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I get all.

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Speaker 3: He calls me back and he said, and.

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Speaker 2: It was probably I could have been five to seven minutes,

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maybe ten minutes from the time I called him to

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the time he called back.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And he said to me, I was trying to put

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a quilt on the bed, and he said, I heard

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the phone ringing in the other room. And he goes,

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it took me that long to get from my bedroom

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to the phone on the kitchen table. And I mean

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we're talking a small, one bedroom place, right, So he

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goes and he goes, and I'm out of breath and

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I said, yeah, and he goes. I said, because he

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keeps saying like I'm going to go back to the gym,

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I'm getting back to the gym. And I think he's

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slowly starting to realize, and I think we probably have

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to consider a higher level of care for him, you

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know what I mean, like instead of just assisted living,

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like something else. Yes, And my brother wants to have

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that call next week. So I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there,

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and I won't reveal too much. I keep things a

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term that I learned today, pocketed, meaning like I don't

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share a lot of these things. But it was a

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friend of mine and my father has met this person

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and it's a woman. And I said, so and so

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is here, and you could hear his whole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, oh yeah, this is an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to show off a little bit,

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you know what I mean, Like you could hear it,

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and he had been. And I said to my brother earlier,

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just as a little backtrack, uh not that my dad

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never said it. He did, he would say I love you,

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but he didn't. You didn't end phone calls. It was

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usually with most of my calls over the last couple

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of years. But well, good luck with it all, Willie.

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That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: It's now been I.

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Speaker 2: Love you, and I said, yeah, I love you too,

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and and and even on Father's Day. The amount of love,

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the fact that you called when you did, I couldn't

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have come at a better time. I was in so

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much pain. I was in so much pain. My dad

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once fell.

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Speaker 3: This is terrible. But like I think back on things.

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But my dad, uh, they.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. They weren't hoarders, but they had a

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lot of shit and they just collected. It was in

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the back of the basement. So he decided to clean

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out the basement and he got a dumpster and that

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got filled and it was like seven hundred dollars to

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empty the dumpster. So then he just started burning things

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in the backyard and he tripped and fell into the

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fire and burned both hands really really really badly. Didn't

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I tell you the story that one? Oh, I didn't

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tell you this. This is like, so I wasn't living

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at home, and I don't know where.

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Speaker 1: My brother before the house burned down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know where my brother was. But

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he goes, hey, Mom just called and said Dad fell

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into the fire and his hands are all bandaged up

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like oversize oven mittens, and she's going to get him

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pain medication.

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Speaker 3: I go, hang up, I'm gonna call I see along,

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takes some.

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Speaker 2: Dance to the phone.

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Speaker 3: And we did.

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Speaker 2: You heard about like we like dicky things like that,

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dicky dicky dicky, dumb dicky dicky things. That's like dumb, right,

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that's mean. But he said to me. That was a

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ten on the pain scale. Father's Day was an eight.

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By comparison, I was in that much pain. Yeah, I

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mean just think about it. Anytime you go to the

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doctor they ask in a pain scale you if you're

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being really honest, you're like, so, I feel like then

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you're you're holding the gun to my head, going what's

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the pain? And I will say a five if it's

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really a five, and that you know, but it hurts,

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A five hurts, six hurts.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going okay.

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Speaker 2: So today I call him and he when I say,

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you know, by the way, so and so I can

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hear you, and he's like, oh, And I said, yeah,

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really thinks you're very funny, and he is. He's very

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very funny without sometimes even realizing it. And he goes, oh,

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did I tell you about the hospital? And you gotta

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picture this because if I say it, it sounds like

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an old man joke. But if you can put it

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into context of the moment, what they're trying to do,

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and just what the only thing that's funny is the unexpected, right,

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The unexpected is what makes something funny if you see

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it coming. Sometimes he can still be funny, like I

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can see sometimes they coming and I start laughing because

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I can see it coming.

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Speaker 3: But with these things.

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Speaker 2: So he said, you know, I have a million tests,

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and he goes in every room, They're bringing me into

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a they're putting me in the MRI machine, and they're

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asking me my name, do I know where I am?

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What day of the week is it, what is your

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date of birth? And where are you now? And he goes, so,

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I'm going through on a mansion and they can say

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where are you now? He goes, I'm in a gentleman's club, right,

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And that's what he said, because I'm at a gentleman's club.

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And he goes, and so the person laughs and then

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he says, he goes, I uh, I don't know. It

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was dark. I don't even remember faces, but that that

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nurse remembered and she came back and she said, eh,

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the gentleman's club. And he goes, I said, well, you're

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very phonny. He goes, oh, and then he just said

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to me again. You know, he just goes, Look it's

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near the end of the show and he goes.

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Speaker 3: It's been a great ride.

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Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, Dan, that kind of knocked

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the wind out of my sales.

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Speaker 3: I went home, and uh.

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Speaker 2: I started to do some work for the podcast and

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other things that I'm doing, and I gotta lay down

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on like I gotta, I gotta shut it down for

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a minute. And I went and laid down for like

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forty five minutes, and uh, and then got up. And

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Speaker 1: She's making mecapart Ah, I don't know, okay.

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Speaker 3: But she was one of their top designers. She she

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may have to change that jingle to maybe you need

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Speaker 3: Okay, it was a text I apologized.

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Speaker 2: I've been having my phone on do not disturb, but

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because my dad will call at random times, I don't

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want it on. Do not disturb because I don't hear it,

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but when I'm doing the podcast to put it on.

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Do not disturb when I'm in certain situations. But anyway,

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so a text came in from somebody on the podcast

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making some ridiculous comment, not.

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Speaker 3: About the show that we're doing.

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Speaker 2: So this woman went viral after a drunken, violent meltdown

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on Southwest Airlines and here his said, melt down.

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Speaker 3: Let me see if I have the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell. Okay, So this woman comes on the plane

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and apparently refuses to sit next to someone on Southwest

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because they're too fat. And the woman doesn't look that fat.

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I mean, she really didn't hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: She could just be big boned.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't look fat, but it's hard to tell. From

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the camera angle. This is being filmed from behind the

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fat woman. This woman is now over her seat and

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the alleged I will say alleged fat woman has a

471
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,799
mask on, like a COVID mask or the masks that

472
00:23:55,839 --> 00:24:01,400
we wore, Like I'm seeing a lot more people those. Yeah, yeah,

473
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,359
me too, I am and which okay, I you know.

474
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but all right, you do you

475
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400
if it gets you if you feel better, because I

476
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,400
know anxiety is a thing.

477
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree.

478
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell my wife. Yeah, I'm with you. But you

479
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,680
know what, my wife says the same thing about But

480
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,960
at the end of the day, if they have anxiety,

481
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,599
it makes them feel better, you know what.

482
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: And maybe it keeps them healthier. I didn't get a

483
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,799
cold at time, and I've had a cold now for

484
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:22,319
a little while.

485
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:23,519
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.

486
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: Here's the lady on the plane, thirty two year old

487
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:31,880
Leanna Perry. They're trying to tell her not to touch

488
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,039
the fat lady. Who alleged fat lady. Let me say

489
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:39,480
that again. Who is she's? This woman is kneeling on

490
00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:45,160
her seat, leaning over Okay, and in the face of

491
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,759
the alleged fat woman with now several three or four

492
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,240
US Yeah Southwest workers.

493
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: And even a few baggage handlers.

494
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just passengers setch No, this is her

495
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:09,720
asshole is look at her stone. Yeah, she grabs the hair,

496
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,799
grabs her by the hair. What the alleged fat woman?

497
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Okay said.

498
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: She's got her hair like I mean, she's got.

499
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not even touching her hair.

500
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: Bitch.

501
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: Let go, you need to let go right now.

502
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: This woman is like up against her head something like yeah,

503
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:41,920
I'm sorry. I didn't want to say next fallat go

504
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:46,240
over here. You guys are already passed. You already passed.

505
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,079
So primis you'll see me.

506
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: You know what's Listen to what she says about her face.

507
00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Put me on the ground. All right, Look at this

508
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,160
fat lady. Look at this fat ass bitch. She can't

509
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000
even look. You gave us your stomach. That's horrible.

510
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Look at her, the bitch hilarious. You can't even show

511
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,039
your mouth because you're embarrassed.

512
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:18,839
Speaker 2: She's got the mask because you're embarrassed. Shut the fuck out. Sorry,

513
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,359
I can't hear you. I can't hear you, ugly ass.

514
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,079
Fucking dude. He's never had a lay it again, I think. Sorry,

515
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,240
black guy, my boyfriend's black. Shut my boyfriend is sucking

516
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,839
a black guy. My boyfriend's a black. My boyfriend's black.

517
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,000
My boyfriends a fucking black guy. All right, all right,

518
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:46,480
she's now spitting on the one up. Shut the fuck up,

519
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,759
Shut the I'm gonna do.

520
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: Shut the shut the fuck up.

521
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: I can't breathe. Yeah, they got her on the ground,

522
00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:57,200
and that's just pulled the George Floyd cot all right,

523
00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:01,440
so this woman has just completely lost her shit, and

524
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:03,839
I know she got on the plane drunk.

525
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what drug she was on.

526
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: That's why I said she maybe going from maybe it's

527
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,480
maybe lean to maybe I need a lawyer.

528
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: We guessed the apology. Yeah, sure, Like if I were

529
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,079
Steve Serku, how would I craft this defense letter?

530
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,839
Speaker 2: But you're seeing what seems like more and more extreme

531
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:26,279
behavior in planes, and we see everything now, we are

532
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,160
so hyper connected, we see every there you go back.

533
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:37,279
I'm gonna say, I feel like fifteen years ago, our

534
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,759
technology wasn't where I could go live from the plane,

535
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000
and you know what I mean. I mean somebody probably

536
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,880
did or film it and upload it instantly. I mean,

537
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,000
this has been everywhere. Every newscast has had it then,

538
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,119
and so it just got picked up. But I mean

539
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,839
I'm seeing the raw stuff. I think at some point

540
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,839
in the video or one video, she yells at the woman,

541
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,400
I'm sorry that your husband has a two inch dick

542
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,359
or whatever. But I'm going, how does nobody and I

543
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,039
go this? There must be something wrong with me, because

544
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,480
I always think if your first instinct is to hit,

545
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,960
there's something.

546
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: Wrong with you.

547
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:21,319
Speaker 2: But if she had my girlfriend, wife, partner or whatever

548
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960
buy the hair and she's pulling it and she's not

549
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,440
letting go, I am punching that woman square in the

550
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160
fucking face, and I'm hitting to knock her out. I'm

551
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,559
not hitting to just be like hey, like a little

552
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,000
slap on the face. No, I'm fucking getting up and

553
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
I'm not going. I'm going. I mean if I need

554
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,319
to come with an upper cut to just knock your

555
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,000
jaw off, and I'm like, nobody does that, nobody does it,

556
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,359
And I go in the end, it's probably the right

557
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,319
thing to do. Yes, I mean, she's got her by

558
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,880
the head.

559
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:54,559
Speaker 3: You gotta it's.

560
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Insanity, gout y'all, just because she didn't want to sit

561
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:00,400
next to allegedly allegedly affect woman.

562
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and then women didn't. I mean she didn't even

563
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960
look she didn't look plump. I don't know.

564
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to this. I just

565
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,519
I mean, we we I mean we we see this

566
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,799
because they make the news now, right, I don't think

567
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,759
these things happens often. They just happened, and we remember

568
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,400
the last time it happened, and it feels like yesterday, right.

569
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,599
Speaker 2: Well, there was just like you go on there, type

570
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,960
in go on, just type in in Google and you're right.

571
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:29,079
Airplane No, just I put in Southwest meltdown. I guess

572
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,319
some guy must sit down over somebody's baby videos of

573
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:33,200
the Southwest.

574
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so their spirit then there's Southwest's gonna give you

575
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,480
right now? Okay, are you gonna rank the airlines that

576
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240
most likely this is gonna happen? I'm telling you those

577
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440
are the ones. It's like people of Walmart. It is

578
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,519
people of passengers.

579
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: Of Southwest starting to think if you want incident free

580
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,400
flights saying they can't.

581
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Happen on other flights, you gotta go to Delta.

582
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: You've got to know, you gotta go first class.

583
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's somebody in the back's

584
00:29:57,119 --> 00:29:59,839
not going to start a problem and get off se.

585
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:01,759
Speaker 3: I don't see why is that?

586
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,759
Speaker 2: Why do people who are like paining a little bit

587
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,640
more aren't fucked.

588
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,559
Speaker 1: Up because they know much, they know how much it's worth.

589
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,759
I don't know really Southwest at least last time. So

590
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:15,720
the first time I've ever got in a plane was

591
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,000
with Tom mulay and you I was twenty nine. Okay,

592
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,759
how was it even? And your wife at the time

593
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,279
explained to me Southwest is a cattle call, so you

594
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,200
have to check in and then you get whatever seat

595
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,039
you get based on when you're called up to go

596
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,440
in the line. There's no assigned seats. It's just you

597
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,799
just go and just pick your seat or whatever. So

598
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,519
a lot of people just like sit down and the people

599
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:37,839
whoever who are left have to sit next to somebody

600
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
because there's always like everyone wants their own space, right,

601
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,519
so you're gonna be stuck sitting next to somebody you

602
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:44,200
probably wouldn't choose normally.

603
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,039
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, if I'm flying alone, I'm going

604
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,720
like probably the cheapest and a lot of times what

605
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,680
I'll do is I will not Like most of my

606
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,200
recent flights were to see Jamison when he was in Alabama,

607
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,359
and I would always try to fly in the Huntsville

608
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,599
instead of Nashville. Southwest is a Nashville is a hub

609
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,839
in Nashville. Nashville's a hub for Southwest. Yes, Buffalo too, Huntsville.

610
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240
I would I would always go like American to Charlotte

611
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,799
and over. I never had an issue, but I can

612
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:18,960
tell you the Southwest flights they're not that much cheaper. No,

613
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:19,640
they're really not.

614
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Bags don't fly free anymore.

615
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: No, they don't.

616
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: And so and I'm not saying Southwest is a bad airline.

617
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,160
They couldn't be around right as long as they have

618
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,720
and become the brand. Is that though, And I swear

619
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:39,319
to God, there is something I don't I don't get it.

620
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:40,000
I think you got.

621
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: I hate saying this, but I would fly Southwest. I

622
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,880
have no problems with it because a lot of they're

623
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,759
like direct flights like Buffalo to Vegas. Oh yeah, I'll

624
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,200
do that. You'll stop please, I think I'll do that.

625
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
I think it's probably the best of the rest, if

626
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,160
that makes sense. Southwest it's not a bad airline at all,

627
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,640
but you're going to get that level of insophistication in

628
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,160
your passenger versus a Delta or United. I'm an American airline.

629
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:11,599
Speaker 2: Yes, Or I'll say this if what airline are you

630
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:14,599
more likely to see people in pajamas and slippers on?

631
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Southwest it's like the Walmart airlines.

632
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,559
Speaker 2: Southwestern Spirit right, our Frontier right looks like what is okay?

633
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,519
Speaker 1: Genic Target everything? Oh the Tarja they have so much

634
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,119
cool stuff. Okay. My sister when we lived together, she

635
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,839
would buy a lot of her furniture from Target, and

636
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,839
he did a study and they found out that while

637
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160
people think it's cheek to shop at Target, their stuff breaks,

638
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,720
whereas Walmart stuff doesn't break as often. It actually is sturdier.

639
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,640
And this was fifteen years ago, sturdier and better. But

640
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,720
because it was targeted, it was very sophisticated. But if

641
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,359
you go to Walmart or a Target, you're seeing the

642
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,960
same clientele no matter what, especially at the cash register. Okay,

643
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880
it's the same look.

644
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,799
Speaker 2: Look I don't say okay, pajamas And I'm judging, and

645
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,240
I'm being mean and all this, but this is it's

646
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:08,279
people people that I'm judging. I'm judging. I'm judging if

647
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,200
I see a lot of pajamas. And I'll tell you what.

648
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,200
I can tell a lot about the neighborhood by the

649
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,559
number of self checkouts that are open in the Walmart.

650
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,039
When I go to certain parts of where we live,

651
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,559
they don't they to self checkout out. Everybody was stealing, Yes,

652
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,960
that's all I'll say. And I can tell and I

653
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,119
know it sounds shitty and you're gonna going no, it's

654
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,000
a fact. It's a fact. It's a fact that.

655
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: He's a gentleman. Stereotypes exists for a reason. It doesn't

656
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,720
mean they're always right.

657
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes I can go a little bit of shame goes

658
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:45,160
a far away. I will ask you this, and in

659
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,640
a real almost philosophical way, this is feeds our need

660
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,599
for shaming. This woman can't deny what she did, or

661
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:58,240
she may not. She may be in such a state,

662
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:02,119
and who knows if she's on prescription meds and drinking

663
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:06,400
and that really fucked her up. Who knows. Let's say

664
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:07,240
she didn't even.

665
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,039
Speaker 1: Do that, but she had, Like this is gonna be

666
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:09,639
her response.

667
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,079
Speaker 2: But she she can't deny what she did, and she

668
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,320
has to see it herself. And everybody she knows has

669
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,760
seen it, everybody she works with, everybody she's.

670
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: Related to, everybody has seen this.

671
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: Her family has gotten calls about this, right, I mean,

672
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,320
it's bad, And I go, what happens when someone's worst

673
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,119
moment becomes their most famous moment and that's all they're

674
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,559
sort of remembered for. I wanted to tell you about

675
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:39,079
bt B because I got a hold of their summer menu.

676
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Oh dude, summer brunch.

677
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: Well, we are going to do the brunch. Some brunch

678
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:48,719
makes me, which is your great idea to do.

679
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: The had another big t. I don't try to rhyme

680
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:54,800
the song.

681
00:34:56,079 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: But they so you've got they do great co cocktails

682
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,000
to match the season. So they're gonna they have the

683
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:06,880
Ocean Breeze bucket. Ocean Breeze bucket.

684
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: This is great.

685
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: It's a blue chair, coconut rum. Oh, Loganberry vodka. Oh

686
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,280
Buffalo blue is it? Logan Berry's made in Buffalo?

687
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 3: Did not know?

688
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Buffalo's known for three foods wings weck and loganberry.

689
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:28,159
Speaker 2: Uh, loganberry, blueberry syrup, pineapple juice and starry. Oh refill

690
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,639
the same day discount and starry, it says, Ocean Breeze bucket. Oh,

691
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,199
the picnic juice bucket. So I wonder if they come

692
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,679
in like little buckets. Oh yeah probably. Oh god, great

693
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,159
summer melon. They've got these? Sound great? And then martiniz

694
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,199
of the season. Well they got to the food yet, no,

695
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,480
so well I had this lunch yet. Let me tell

696
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:54,920
you the street corn chicken bowl sounds amazing. It's black

697
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,400
and chicken. Ooh, and it has a kick. Mexican street corn,

698
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:06,400
sliced avocado over rice and creamy Jalapano cream drizzle, which

699
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,119
sounds just amazing to me. I love that kind of stuff.

700
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,199
The Texas potato which I've had. Oh it is a

701
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,440
huge potato and I'm talking to the size of your head,

702
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,639
stuffed with cheese, bacon, smoked pulled pork, and a sour

703
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,360
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Speaker 1: I'm really become skeptical over the last month about things.

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Speaker 3: About what about everything? Like what now?

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Speaker 1: After the last podcast we taped, I'm like, I walked

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away going do I really think all this stuff. Don't

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know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: You said things that I.

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Speaker 2: I I won't say it here, but I have a

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theory on it. I have a theory on some stuff

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with you. Go on, you want to hear it for real?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it bad?

766
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Speaker 3: Not necessarily?

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I think you said things like this, if it is bad,

769
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go ahead. I think you said things like the stephen A.

770
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Smith thing. And you're like, when did when the midday

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talk show becomes when.

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Speaker 1: The midday talk when the midday audience dictates the national conversation,

773
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we have a problem.

774
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Speaker 3: But here was my thing is? I want to go

775
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But it's not. It's not the midday audience anymore.

776
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Speaker 2: And don't forget. You've got a lot of people will

777
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still work remotely and you still so they have TVs on.

778
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I remember walking into offices of GMS and stuff and

779
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they had ESPN on all the time. But now, just

780
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,519
like with our podcast, clips get out there and so

781
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people see it and it's on your phone, and so

782
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I get a lunch break and I go and I

783
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watch it, and I don't think it's the people that

784
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you're describing, as we'll call them the Southwest people. Maybe order,

785
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,639
but I don't think it's it's necessarily a lot of those.

786
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And I know what you mean. You're not wrong, but

787
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I think you're wrong for our time today, I don't

788
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think that is the case. And that guy transcends that.

789
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He's also on the NBA stuff, he's on the Howard

790
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Stern Show, he's written a book recently, he's gotten a

791
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lot of press, so it transcends just that thing. And

792
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I don't think he's necessarily digging. Because I started to

793
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thinking about it, I go if I went out on

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the street and asked twenty five people, who is Stephen A.

795
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Speaker 3: Smith?

796
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Speaker 2: Just random people, I mean, all walks of life, I

797
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,719
think I would get more often than not. I don't know,

798
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or isn't he that guy who?

799
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,559
Speaker 3: And that's it?

800
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know that people are all that locked

801
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in as you are. And I think that you get

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angry at these guys because you believe.

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Speaker 3: You're as good.

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Speaker 2: And didn't get your chance. And I think that that's

805
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a fair thing to say. I think I think this

806
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stuff you write for the Times Wayne County is excellent.

807
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I think when you're talking like the bills even here,

808
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sometimes I wish you'd take a fucking breath.

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Speaker 3: You're like a freight train going through.

810
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Speaker 2: But your stuff is all well thought out, really really,

811
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I mean it's really good.

812
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Speaker 3: It is.

813
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Speaker 2: And I'm not just blowing smoke up your grass and

814
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,320
people go, you're just kissing it. No, I'm no reason to,

815
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,239
I have no reason to none. But the point is, like,

816
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it is really good. And I think that you get

817
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pissed when you see these other guys because you got

818
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kind of boned along the way or whatever caught up.

819
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,920
It's not, but it's that that I think held you back.

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00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I mean, let's put

821
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,760
it this way. Ice play in a band. I had

822
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a drummer named Ian. Ian is a guy who is

823
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,119
easily the most talented drummer in Rochester. And there's nobody

824
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,079
even close. Nobody even close. Yeah, but I know, and

825
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I know that there's people in town who will like

826
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hate me for saying that. No, just just just drum

827
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against him. If he's sober or even if he's in

828
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the bag. He could play anything like rush like you

829
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:33,079
name it. Every beat Neil Peart can play, he could play.

830
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,760
And I think along the line in Los Angeles, he

831
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,119
missed a turn somewhere and ended up just working as

832
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a cover band drummer and just you know, end up

833
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,679
here because of family reasons or whatever. The guy's phenomenal.

834
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,559
I think somewhere along the line, I had an opportunity

835
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,079
I didn't take and I missed a turn somewhere, and

836
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,079
I wish I had taken it. But I didn't take

837
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:52,800
it out of fear. And it wasn't because I was

838
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,760
afraid that I couldn't perform. I was afraid of logistics

839
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,559
in a situation, a living situation with my sister and

840
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,079
travel when I was broke, and I let my fears

841
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,199
overtake it, and then I've been I'd chased that dragon

842
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,920
ever since, or told myself, you know what'd rather do

843
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,559
this instead? Which was the break crow? Rather it was

844
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,000
but when you when you but like when you're in

845
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:18,719
your thirties and you're getting paid a producer's salary, which

846
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,599
isn't much, guys.

847
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: Uh, it was, and I didn't know what it.

848
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Was. Eighteen to twenty four thousand dollars a year, Okay.

849
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,840
I started at eighteen, mind you, at twenty eight years old,

850
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,840
as an established who who already worked at another radio station

851
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,599
that did well a couple of them. Yeah, I mean

852
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,440
that that that's pover and stricken type of stuff. Like

853
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,440
Tommy used to call me the working poor, remember, and

854
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:49,840
it killed relationships, it drove me into And I'm like,

855
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,760
I own all the choices I made, Okay, I want

856
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,760
to be perfectly clear about that. And I don't blame

857
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
anybody else for anything. It's just it's this was all Dan.

858
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,159
But yeah, I do get frustrated because I watched these

859
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:02,039
guys and by the way, Steven A. Smith is more

860
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,360
talented than I am. That's not what I mean. But

861
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,559
I watched their opinions. I'm like, do you do your homework?

862
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,000
And then I watched local guys and listen to local

863
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,320
guys and I'm not talking just Rochester, I'm talking Buffalo.

864
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: What the f I know?

865
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,079
Speaker 1: Do you know how to ask a question at a

866
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:22,119
press conference? My favorite moment in my career, well do this.

867
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,639
As far as sports goes, I love to working with

868
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:27,880
Brad Davies, I love doing sports at CMF. I love

869
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,199
doing a talk show. But my favorite moment Tiger Woods

870
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,599
is in town for the PGA Championship and you and

871
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,960
I are credentialed. Peter Montemurno is sitting next to us.

872
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,400
We're in the press room. Tiger's about to speak, and

873
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,840
the station that had, you know, laid me off was

874
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,440
right behind this whim and they had ten guys there,

875
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,440
including the guys from Channel thirteen, and the MIC's going

876
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,800
around and all these national reporters are asking questions and

877
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,639
I put my hand up. I want to ask Tiger

878
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:58,079
a question. And I can hear a little Okay, that's good, yeah, right,

879
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,199
I grabbed the mic and I go, hey, Tiger here.

880
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,039
Michael Jordan always said that he felt bad for his

881
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,000
children because they're always expected to live up to him.

882
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,400
Do you have any advice for your son Charlie if

883
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,039
he's going to go into golf? And what advice would

884
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:12,480
that be? And he gave a two and a half

885
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,239
minute answer that went viral before viral became the thing.

886
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,639
And I wanted to look back at those guys, and

887
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,760
then you said the sports Leader, not a single one

888
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,039
of you, mother effors asked a single question.

889
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Because I will fight for the I know the people

890
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
that But I was like, but I had no business,

891
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,840
I had no business.

892
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: No, But I'm glad you said it because I wanted

893
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,039
to say it, and I just didn't say it.

894
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,159
Speaker 2: I know, but I had no business projecting defending, like

895
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:43,880
fighting your.

896
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: Battle, and I didn't.

897
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,199
Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed that.

898
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: Well. I would get mad because I thought you, when

899
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,440
it came to the sports stuff was good. I think

900
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,960
sometimes you run away, and I think sometimes you're the

901
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:59,960
bitterness you feel, the anger about this stuff is read.

902
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: I do think that.

903
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: I think if you were able to touch it, it's

904
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,880
like volcanic level red hot. I know what that's like,

905
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,800
trust me, yes, and I can see it. And I

906
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,800
think sometimes that stuff, that frustration was what other people

907
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,280
saw and saw as well.

908
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: He just kind of flies off. He doesn't, he's not

909
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,639
you know, and it.

910
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got it. I got a reputation for it.

911
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

912
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: And I think that that's the problem.

913
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: That's why I keep saying to you, do whatever you want,

914
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,719
I'll help you do it. I mean, not that I'm

915
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960
going to be able to help you, but you're here.

916
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:34,760
I love having you on. If you wanted to do

917
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,559
your own thing and you wanted to do it through here,

918
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:37,920
you can. If you don't want to do through here,

919
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,280
you don't have to.

920
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that leading up the football season.

921
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,000
It's finding the time and your ability to do it, even.

922
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,199
Speaker 3: If you did a fifteen minute podcast. Believe me, people, I.

923
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Mean ours is long. When I talk to people, go,

924
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:50,280
that's a long time.

925
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,599
Speaker 3: It is, And I get it. I got a lot

926
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:53,920
of stupid things I say.

927
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 2: But just I mean, if you were able to condense

928
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,519
it down and keep it to that tight thing you

929
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:02,440
know inside Dan's head or whatever.

930
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could go.

931
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: I think you could really blow up, especially if it

932
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,519
was done the right way.

933
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:10,559
Speaker 3: And it's just the thought.

934
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna wrap it up. I'm sorry.

935
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: I just.

936
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,199
Speaker 2: For Dan Burrell.

937
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh, pray for your dad, Billy.

938
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I don't know what to pray for.

939
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,199
Do you understand what I'm saying. I just go, I

940
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,440
just pray. I guess that the ability for him to

941
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,920
handle every day. Yeah, that's it.

942
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: That's all.

943
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:33,519
Speaker 1: Give him a strength to handle each day until you

944
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:34,159
call him home.

945
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,159
Speaker 2: I my thing would be, I know.

946
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: People were praying for death for their loved ones, and

947
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,480
I'm not joking.

948
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: No, I understand because sometimes it's the best option. Yes,

949
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:49,800
my thing would be for that keep I would I

950
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,559
want him to.

951
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,159
Speaker 3: Keep his dignity.

952
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:58,079
Speaker 2: He's a proud he is a true gentleman. I've had

953
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,519
people say to me that, you know, there are things

954
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:03,519
that I do that I don't even instinctly go away,

955
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,719
you're really a gentleman. And I was like, well, that's

956
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,639
how you were raised, That's how I was raised. I

957
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,639
tried to raise my boys that way. I'm not sure

958
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,559
that I did a good job. But he is a true,

959
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:17,920
true gentleman, like an old school gentleman. And like I

960
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,880
remember even going to grandparents' day at one of the

961
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,519
kids' schools when they were teenagers. Three piece suit, tweet,

962
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,400
three piece suit, you know, I mean the guy and

963
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,719
he was a new mismanners guide to perfect etiquette and

964
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,639
would make jokes about it but knew it, and I

965
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,199
mean he was And so I go, in the end,

966
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,280
may he please be able to preserve the dignity all

967
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,639
the way.

968
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,519
Speaker 1: Sana says, you're not supposed to wait for everyone to

969
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:47,480
get served, you just eat.

970
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that was the other thing, like,

971
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,400
oh yeah, yeah, I was a lot.

972
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm hungry, give me my scotch.

973
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: And he's still here.

974
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm talking like he's gone.

975
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:57,559
Speaker 2: He's not.

976
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: He's still here.

977
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,599
Speaker 2: Should we do living funerals.

978
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Should it be our next? Betch?

979
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: We did?

980
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: Remember we did? Didn't we do?

981
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: Oh no?

982
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 2: We did obituary. Bit bituary for Dan Barilla. I'm Bill Moran.

983
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,800
We'll see you Monday. I was never paying nothing, but

984
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:16,920
as anyway, it wasn't there. But they didn't do the

985
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:17,440
friends