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It's Friday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. 29 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.400 I'm Joeldnell alongside my co host here, Greg Canner, and 30 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.680 this is the All Elite Conversation Club podcast for pw 31 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.159 torch dot com. 32 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:57.120 We are back. I missed you. I missed you. 33 00:01:58.200 --> 00:01:59.239 I missed you too, Greg. 34 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.640 As I was wading through the smoke of the fires 35 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.920 to see you know, I couldn't even see fifty feet 36 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.120 outside my door for a little bit, I thought of, Man, 37 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.400 I wish I was just inside chatting with Joel about wrestling. 38 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:14.800 Well. 39 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.199 We yeah, we all kind of suffered through the h 40 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.800 being here in the Midwest, having that smoky hazy It's 41 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.159 just kind of become like a routine thing every summer 42 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:26.759 now that we get those Canadian wildfires that you know 43 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.960 affects the boundary waters and you were you were up 44 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.639 in northern Michigan too, so you got you felt a 45 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.080 little bit more of that this past weekend. 46 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.800 Oh yeah, there's a lot of you know, blame Canada. 47 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.560 I can't I can't do any more of that because 48 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.319 we don't have the rights to it. But yeah, no, 49 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:46.400 just kidding. We love Canada. It's not your fault. 50 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:47.319 Yeah. 51 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.120 Well, speaking of Canada, AW. 52 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.039 Will be aay how about that segue? 53 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:59.479 Yes, AEW will be in Canada this upcoming Sunday in 54 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:03.479 Montreal at the Bell Center for AW Redemption. I just 55 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.520 wanted to make a quick note Greg, so you mentioned 56 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.759 that we're back this week. Last week I did a 57 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.479 solo show, and you know, I just thought that was 58 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.280 the worst show I have ever done, first of all, 59 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.319 because it was solo without you Greg. 60 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:17.199 Yes. 61 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:22.120 Secondly, I had a another sinus infection, so I apologize, 62 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.080 but thank you for listening to it. I had to 63 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:26.800 like pause the show every like few minutes to just 64 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:30.439 like clear up my sinuses of stuff. So you know, 65 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.960 check check that out. Of just kind of my my 66 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.360 overall review of Brawl in the Ballpark. I thought it 67 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.520 was a fun show, just a just a house show 68 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.400 of stuff, but everybody worked hard on it. It was 69 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.080 a fun setup. I think AW will definitely do it 70 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.319 again for another MLB team. Tony Kahn was there very enthusiastic, 71 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:50.479 a lot of people stuck around for it. And then 72 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.080 I had just a brutal travel too, because that show 73 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.599 started late after the MLB game kind of went a 74 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:00.599 little bit longer, where nowadays MLB goes faster because of 75 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.319 the pitch clock, but this one dragged on for a 76 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:07.360 little bit and anti climactic finish where Twins almost won 77 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.759 lost to the Angels in the bottom of the ninth, 78 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:15.280 but then then AW took a little bit to get going, 79 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.560 so it was like after ten o'clock that they actually 80 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:21.040 started the show, and that show didn't like end until 81 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.160 close to midnight, I want to say, And so I 82 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.160 kind of started to head out there because I needed 83 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:31.639 to drive to Hoffmann Estates the next morning because I 84 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:33.800 went to the New Japan G one Climax Night one, 85 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.839 which was a very fun show. You know, New Japan 86 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.399 is what it is these days, where it's not you know, 87 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.240 banger after banger after banger, but there was there was 88 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.040 some good highlights of stuff, especially Takeshida versus Yodasuji. 89 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.800 All right, well, I'm glad that you were able to 90 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:53.680 share it with us. I'm sure the show is not 91 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.399 as bad as you think to all of the listeners, 92 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:01.800 But thank you for taking a break between needing to 93 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:06.000 clear your sinuses, because I don't think that is good podcasting. 94 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.480 Uh is you know, to have sinus clearing noise constantly 95 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.600 during you know, a podcast? Yeah, I'm just you know, 96 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.839 I mean my extensive experience of doing podcasts would tell 97 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:18.399 me that. 98 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.160 Yeah, well, you know, you're a professional, so I'll heed 99 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:28.600 the advice professional. What well, Greg, you mentioned that you 100 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:30.680 you were one of the people who listened to Tony 101 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:35.240 Kahn's media interview, and you told you told me off 102 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.120 the air that there was actually some news that came 103 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:38.639 out of it. 104 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.399 I can't this was this one had more actual news 105 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.600 than anyone I can remember, and far less of the 106 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:54.560 whether it's whether it's planned, uh like questions or whatever. 107 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.480 It is the questions that annoy me the most, which 108 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.240 would be you know, whatever random people call up to 109 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.040 to kind of tee up Tony to talk about something, 110 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.439 you know, like I, you know, like I want to 111 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.480 talk about, you know, Willow Nightingale, and she's been this 112 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.279 and she It's almost like it's like some canned question 113 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.519 that someone that they sent them that says, hey, I 114 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.720 want to listen, I want to talk about Willow, so 115 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.720 ask me about that. Yeah, I hate those. But news wise, 116 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.480 there was news. So all right, where should I start? Well, 117 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.439 the first one of the first questions were the about 118 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:35.319 the news of Anna J, ty Mello, Sammy Gavara, about 119 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.199 you know, leaving, what their status is and all that. 120 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:43.199 So Tony was pretty forthcoming, saying that Anna Jay was 121 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.839 re signed recently but is currently injured and has to 122 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.319 get an MRI on something, so I don't think we'll 123 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.519 see her anytime soon. But but she is resigned with 124 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:54.079 the company. 125 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:55.199 Uh. 126 00:06:55.800 --> 00:07:00.040 Sammy Gavara status is unchanged despite him I believe taking 127 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:06.800 AW off of one of his social media profiles or 128 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.480 something like that. That he's Tony said, Guvar is still 129 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.480 part of AW. He has gone you know and worked 130 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:19.800 in other places r oh and and CMLL and that 131 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.519 kind of thing, and said that yeah, he's still around. 132 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:29.000 And then the most forthcoming was ty Mellow apparently asked 133 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.720 for her release a few weeks ago. He was trying 134 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.399 to explain that this was not something that was months 135 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.759 and months ago, or he's not holding her hostage or 136 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:40.279 anything like that, saying that she asked for her release 137 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.000 a few weeks ago to step away from wrestling. That 138 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.199 was his words, and he said he will grant that release. 139 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.079 So that was his thing. Yeah. The one thing, you 140 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.720 know that that's always a little again. You hear about 141 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:56.040 it in sports and in ownership or coaches or some 142 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:01.240 players where it's like they're they're mad that the media 143 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.000 reports something because they didn't want it out there, or 144 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.639 or media gets it a little bit wrong or whatever 145 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.759 it is, and instead of just saying, here's what really 146 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:15.199 happened or whatever, there's this kind of antagonistic approach of like, 147 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.560 you know, you know, I'm not going to let you 148 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.720 guys do this, or you guys spread this, or you know, 149 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.879 you guys are wrong and it's wrong. Just clear it up, man, 150 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.319 like that's all you know. And and for the most 151 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.399 part here he did. But I just always find a 152 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.120 little bit of that just frustrating against me, maybe as 153 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.480 a you know, person in the media who you know 154 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:40.559 is just taking something somebody said and saying okay, or report, Hey, 155 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:44.799 you know, we asked a question. You can give your 156 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:47.759 side or here's what you know. You say the deal is, 157 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.799 and like, okay, cool, no problem, you know it's it's 158 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.159 it seems very simple to me. But but Tony, to 159 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.200 his credit, when I for years I've said, you know, 160 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.759 he needs media training and all that, and while I 161 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.799 still think there are aspects of the way he speaks 162 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.720 to media that could be improved, I think there has 163 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:12.240 been improvement from you know, years ago, but hopefully you know, 164 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.759 there's a little bit more. But anyway, so we got that, 165 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:19.440 then we have someone asked about Swerve Strickland and where 166 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:24.799 he's been, and basically Tony giving away something, you know, 167 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.639 if you read between the lines, basically saying, yep, Swerve. 168 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.360 He was just with Swerve at a comic con and 169 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.639 ask me again after redemption. So you know, hearing ask 170 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:37.879 me again after redemption a couple of times, you kind 171 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.440 of would think that there's maybe a high chance that 172 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.240 Swerve does return. And he said, you know, you'll be 173 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:48.440 seeing more from Hangman imminently. He did reiterate when Hangman 174 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.840 was on Collision a few weeks ago and said that 175 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.759 Hangman said that he will live up to his word 176 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.879 not to challenge for the AW Championship again. So they're 177 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.519 definitely hammering down on the fact that it is Hangman's 178 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:08.200 word that is keeping the stipulation on and not necessarily 179 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:12.080 some signed contract with the company. So it's giving that little, 180 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.240 you know, loophole at some point in the future, which 181 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:17.919 if they're going to use it, obviously we hope they 182 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:19.960 use it, you know, I at least hope they use 183 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.360 it years down the line and not something that they 184 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:24.840 you know, do a few months from now that would 185 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.679 be a bummer. And then the other thing would be 186 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:32.559 he would not admit that he had to change the 187 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:36.080 Redemption main event that has all been speculated. It was 188 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:39.360 supposed to be the MJF Kenny match where Kenny won 189 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:44.799 the title due to an MGF injury or something along 190 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.080 those lines. He did say that MJF has been battling 191 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:54.559 injuries recently, but would not admit, you know that the 192 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.720 original plan was for MJF Kenny at this redemption. He 193 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.279 just said, you know, we it was great for TV 194 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.480 and they are looking forward to a great show, you know, 195 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.120 this Sunday. So that was basically the gist of it, 196 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.360 but you know it was Actually I'm glad I listened 197 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:13.360 to it this time. It was chock full of stuff. 198 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:17.679 Thank you for listening to it. Greg. Did he say 199 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:23.080 anything about WWE's counterprogramming for All Out? So All Out's 200 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.519 going to be at the Now Arena on August or 201 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.960 September twenty sixth, and then shortly thereafter, WWE announced that 202 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:36.120 they would be running a triple A World's Collide show 203 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.200 at the All State Arena. So between those two arenas, 204 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.279 I mean, it's probably like twenty thirty minutes away from 205 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:45.320 one another. I don't know what times if they're going 206 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.679 to be running at the same time with one another. 207 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.240 You know, we've seen that Tony Ken move the show 208 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.120 to be at a different time. But was there any 209 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:55.360 sort of comment about that. 210 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.840 I did not hear any comments during this call, but 211 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.240 earlier in the week, I know he did address it somewhere. 212 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.000 And I'm trying real quick to find the quotes. I 213 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:12.600 don't want to misquote him, but the gist of it was. 214 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:17.159 Let me see, here's. 215 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:22.960 Oh the other thing real quick, I'll get back to 216 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.559 your w W question. But he did say he wanted 217 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.399 to experiment with an earlier pay per view start time. 218 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.440 So that's why they're starting an hour earlier. You know, 219 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.919 who knows. But it's better I think for especially Sunday 220 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.559 nights obviously, for people who have to work early and 221 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:46.279 the and the length of their shows. Yeah, okay, yeah, 222 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.960 So it looks like it was the Battleground podcast where 223 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:56.639 he quoted and here is the quote about head on shows. Uh, 224 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.279 it's really it's the reality of current wrestling. It's the friendly, 225 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.720 predatory nature of scheduling of events, but also the compliment 226 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.039 that says that AW is doing very well. Chicago is 227 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.279 a great city for wrestling. I'm very excited about AW 228 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.759 all out and it's not something unexpected to have competition 229 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:18.120 and I do welcome it. Okay, so and so and 230 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:19.559 that was so that was earlier in the week. So 231 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.159 I mean, I love that quote. I mean I give him, 232 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.600 you know, credit. It's like, you're not gonna you know, 233 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.639 I think I think, you know, twenty twenty one, Tony 234 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.279 Kahn probably reacts differently, you know, or tries to do 235 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.720 something on AW programming to like, you know, take a 236 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.679 shot at WWE or something like that. I think, you know, 237 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:40.919 to my delight, he has learned you know, to worry 238 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:44.080 about AW and not worry about WWE. When he's asked, 239 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:46.399 that's a great way to answer it and just say, 240 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.080 you know, hey, they're gonna do what they're gonna do, 241 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.080 and we have to put on good shows and we're 242 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.639 happy with our shows, and you know, you know, bring 243 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.879 on the competition. That's fine. I'm sure he's not happy, 244 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.279 you know, behind the scenes, as anyone would you know, 245 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.320 wouldn't be it just you know, it's like again why 246 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.440 you know, it's just it's it's cheap and petty. I 247 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.799 think for WW to try to you know, to have that, 248 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.480 it's like, just let the two exist. WW is doing 249 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.679 perfectly fine as far as you know, making money. You know, 250 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.759 people who watch it regularly can you know, comment on 251 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.879 whether their shows are good or you know whatever. But 252 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:30.159 you know they're successful. There's no reason they I would 253 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.879 think they would need to try to stamp out the 254 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.960 competition and go back to what we had, you know, prior, 255 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.399 where it was just them or nothing. That's you know, 256 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:39.679 I don't think anyone wants that. 257 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.000 It's next level coverage that you come to expect from 258 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:48.200 the PW Torch brand. No AI, no rookie perspectives, no 259 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.519 unfounded rumors, no clickbait, no deceptive headlines, just just high 260 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.279 quality writing, breaking news, and fascinating flashbacks every day at 261 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.320 pw torch dot com. Pull yourself away from the evacuous 262 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.399 social media experience that I know many of you regret 263 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.039 once you get lost in it for minutes, if not 264 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:06.759 hours at a time, and settle in for high quality 265 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:08.679 PW torch branded wrestling coverage. 266 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:13.559 Well, I think this is the second time that they've 267 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.919 had that they've had competition in the same market at 268 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:19.559 the same time. But I want to say the first 269 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.320 time was it might have been in Florida where maybe 270 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:26.320 WWE is running a house show at the same time 271 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.159 that aw was running maybe a pay per view. I 272 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.639 want to say, maybe it was World's End or something 273 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.840 like that, and then and then they WWE had a 274 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.639 house show. So this is the first time that WWE's 275 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.399 had like a major show going up against a pay 276 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.639 per view. Now it's not one of WWE's like flagship 277 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.759 pay per views. I mean, it's like one of their 278 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:51.399 Space you know, it's Triple A, and so it's something unique. 279 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:54.360 I mean, I'm obviously this is going to be fascinating 280 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.840 for us to follow. What does WW draw compared to 281 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.639 AW because they've not put their tickets on sale yet, 282 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.240 so AW already has the advantage of people committing and 283 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.759 buying their tickets to that show versus a WWE, which 284 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.039 is going to be something different. It's not going to 285 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.759 be your traditional WW show. 286 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.039 It's there forbidden door type of thing, right, is that 287 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:15.559 what it is? 288 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.320 Like? I guess so, yeah, because it's it's the World's 289 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.240 Collide show, So they're going to have some WWE. They're 290 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.639 going to have some Triple A on that show as well, 291 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.240 and obviously the biggest card that WW can Paul is 292 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.559 putting CM Punk on that show in Chicago, and so 293 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:35.039 I don't know. I mean, that's going to be a 294 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.240 really fascinating thing to follow to see. Do they run 295 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.879 at the same time? What is the ticket sales for 296 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.000 both shows comparatively forcing fans to choose which one they're 297 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:46.840 going to go to. I mean, I think if you're 298 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.200 an AW fan, the choice is obvious of which one 299 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.080 you're going to go to. But I think if you're 300 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.720 AW curious, you know, it might be a little bit 301 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.159 more of a well, which one do I go to? 302 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.559 Because again this is not a tradition WW show. This 303 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.720 is something that's a little bit more different, like you said, 304 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:08.599 closer to like a forbidden door, something that's more intrigue 305 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.680 than you know, like a summer Slam or something like that. 306 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.960 Yeah, no doubt. I'm very curious as well. But to me, 307 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:23.160 I'm looking at it as if you're WWE. Why if 308 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.039 the one thing that AW consistently hits out of the 309 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.839 park is their pay per views. I think that's I 310 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.000 think it's not just Hey, you know, I'm a fan 311 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.920 of AW and not WWE, So I'm gonna say that. 312 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.759 I think it's well known around the business. What no 313 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.000 matter what type of fan you are, that AW puts 314 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.480 on exceptional pay per views, So that's they're going to 315 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:50.359 attack that, it seems to me. In Chicago, which is 316 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.799 a huge AW town as well, Yeah, if you put 317 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.880 sampunk on a card, you're going to cut into a 318 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.920 little bit of it. But I think for the most part, 319 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.000 they're makes no sense for me. I think it hurt 320 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:08.519 It might hurt WWE more two to go up to 321 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:10.960 go up against a w on a pay per view 322 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.559 night in Chicago. I mean, weren't they weren't WW just 323 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.440 in Chicago and cmpunk won the title. How much better 324 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.160 is it going to get for this for the CM 325 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.079 punk heads there than what just happened there. So I 326 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.319 don't know. I mean, you know, maybe i'm maybe I'm 327 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.640 you know, my vision is clouded or whatever. I don't know, 328 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.680 but it just seems to me that if I was 329 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.880 WW and I wanted to, you know, mess with a W, 330 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:39.039 I would pick something else, you know, or or you know, 331 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:41.279 maybe this weekend, you know, this pay per view, which 332 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:47.000 is you know, not the best you know, set up 333 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.559 or or built up pay per view, you know, But 334 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:52.480 I still think it's going to be an entertaining night 335 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.559 on Sunday, you know, because I have no reason not 336 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:58.240 to believe that this Sunday is going to be good. 337 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.880 So I don't know, I will see, but it'd be 338 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:03.519 a interesting to see how that goes and ticket sales 339 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:04.000 and everything. 340 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:10.880 Well, let's transition into talking about redemption. This Sunday in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. 341 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.759 Wrestletics has the latest update here where they have six 342 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.640 three hundred and fifty seven tickets have been distributed, which 343 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.480 is up four hundred and fifty eight since the last 344 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.880 two days. So it looks like the last time that 345 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:36.079 they ran Let's see never Mind. So that's where they're 346 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.559 at for right now, which I think is decent, but 347 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.519 obviously nowhere close to some of their bigger shows that 348 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.000 they've had this year of Double or Nothing, which was 349 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.079 a huge, huge success for a show. But let's talk 350 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.240 about the card for Redemption and the way that's been 351 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.079 built up. You mentioned before that this was kind of 352 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:57.119 a late ad pay per view. This is the first 353 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:01.359 time that they're having a Redemption show, which there's been 354 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.680 a lot of talk about the name and what does 355 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.240 the name Redemption mean. Certainly it seems that the original 356 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.559 plan was for Kenny Omega to win the aw World 357 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.279 Championship against MJF on the show, which was obviously moved 358 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.599 up to the beach break, so giving Kenny Omega some 359 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.720 more time to have that championship and then build a 360 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.599 little bit more with will Ospray, which is really what 361 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.680 we've seen over these last few weeks and what we 362 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.400 saw on Dynamite that there's far more of a focus 363 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:33.160 of building their bigger show all in than there is 364 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.240 for this Redemption show. So it feels a little bit 365 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:38.480 like it's there's good stuff and it's going to be 366 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.359 a very good pay per view in the ring, but 367 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.640 it does not feel this is kind of the definition 368 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:47.079 of an aew B show pay per view. 369 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.079 Yeah, clearly, clearly, and you know, and it's not all 370 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.359 their fault. I know they had their their plan. If 371 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.799 you had told me it was going to be like 372 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.000 a lot of the same type of matches, but MJF 373 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.400 and Kenny Omega for the title, with the stipulations and everything, 374 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.079 that would probably sell it, especially in Canada, you know, 375 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.119 so I think you probably would have one to two 376 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:13.440 thousand more people, you know, buying tickets and you'll have 377 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:15.920 you know, this would be one where I would assume 378 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.759 the buys are going to be on the lower side 379 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:24.039 of what they normally do. But if you like aw 380 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.319 and you know you're going to get an exciting, you 381 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.559 know show, despite the fact that it's kind of been 382 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.319 rushed and thrown together, then you're still going to buy it. 383 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:36.880 You know, you're still going to get it. So it 384 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.519 I'm torn between because you know, moving when I'm looking 385 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.240 at this and I'm thinking, Okay, they did not need 386 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.400 a pay per view here in this spot. They could 387 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:48.720 have done just quality television and all that, but I 388 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.599 understand there was this opportunity here and you just didn't 389 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:57.480 get the match you wanted for whatever reason, the speculation 390 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:01.799 being MJF, you know, having an injury and needing more 391 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:06.720 time probably to either have some minor surgery done or 392 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.240 some sort of rehab in order to be ready for 393 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:13.960 all In, because that's most important to them, for MGF 394 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.559 to have a role on All In. And that makes 395 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.319 perfect sense to me. But the you know, in the 396 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:24.480 meantime we get the show that, you know, we'll get 397 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.319 some criticism on how it was built. But outside, I'm 398 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:32.119 trying to put that aside, understanding that is what they 399 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.960 had to do and try to look at it, you know, 400 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.240 and say, okay, let's see what let's see what they 401 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.440 hate big, let's see what they do for us on Sunday. 402 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.640 And I'm you know, on paper, you look at the matches, 403 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:45.720 they're good matches, they just haven't been kind of built 404 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.559 up as enough. And I will a little teaser there 405 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:53.079 are I believe two or three matches that I fear 406 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.000 will go one way that will be very disappointing to me. 407 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.440 Well, I mean very noticeably, Like just no, I'll look 408 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.839 at the card there's no Taqushita, no MJF, no hang 409 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.400 in Page, no swear strick Land. So there's some big 410 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.759 names missing off of the show. And just as like 411 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.599 an overview look at it is that there's a lot 412 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.799 of matches on here that are going to be very 413 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.279 good and a lot of things that could be a 414 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.160 main event un Dynamite, but nothing on this show really 415 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.119 stands out as wow, huge pay per view match, with 416 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.960 the exception of the Young Bucks versus Moxley and Will Ospray, 417 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.440 that's really the only match on here where I'm like, yeah, 418 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:37.400 that's that's really pay per view worthy. Otherwise everything else 419 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.680 is more kind of yeah, you could you could see 420 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.839 it on Collision, you could probably see it on Dynamite, 421 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.000 and it could be in the main event slot. 422 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.680 Yeah, And that match that you brought up is like that, 423 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:51.720 I think, because that's been a long term story that's 424 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:54.480 been going on when you have Ospray and Moxley and 425 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.440 then you have the you know, the Bucks kind of 426 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.839 getting involved with their pal, you know, Kenny Omega being 427 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.160 now involved in that storyline. But just lots and there's 428 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.240 just lots and lots of subtle, long term storytelling with 429 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.240 with that whole thing that makes it more compelling then 430 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:14.640 throwing together you know, no offense to you know, the 431 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:18.440 the Bang Bang Gang and the Dogs with a double 432 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:21.400 chain match or something. You know, it's like, okay, you know, 433 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.799 that's kind of that could certainly have been a collision 434 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.960 main event or a Dynamite you know, second hour you know, 435 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.240 like top of the second Hour type match if they 436 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.720 build it, you know, correctly. So you're just gonna have 437 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.000 to but to deal with that. But it's also I'll 438 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.960 watch a double chain match, like you know, it's like 439 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.319 I'm not It's not like, oh no, I don't want 440 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:44.319 to watch it. It's just it's just, you know, worth 441 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:47.920 the mercy of them having to go with probably Plan 442 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:49.960 b's and Plan c's for this card. 443 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.960 Well, let's let's start on that double chain match because 444 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:54.880 that's actually the top of my list. So we'll go 445 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:58.000 each match down here, and we'll start with the double 446 00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.440 chain tag match of Bang Bang Gang, J White and 447 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.599 Juce Robinson versus the Dogs, Clark Connor and David Finley 448 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.839 this past Wednesday, and Dynamite we saw Jay White versus 449 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.599 Clark Connor's there we've had the return of Jay White 450 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.960 we've you and I have been wanting him to see 451 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.519 him back here and him then he's has slid right 452 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.160 back into the role with the Bang Banggang. I think 453 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.799 it's been okay. You know, I didn't expect them to 454 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:24.160 put Jay White immediately into the main event scene, but 455 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.279 I mean it's just kind of you know, it's it's 456 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.359 all right what they've done. I mean, it's going off 457 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.160 of a new Japan storyline, So you have to have 458 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.799 some of that context of knowing how Jay White was 459 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.279 kicked out of the Bullet Club and how those that 460 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.519 kind of war dogs version of Bullet Club took over, 461 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:46.000 which was Clark Connor's David Finley, also Gabe Kid being 462 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.119 a part of that. So Double Chain gives it a 463 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.240 little bit more of something in there. I mean I 464 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.440 expect it to be be a good match. 465 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.480 Yeah, I mean, no doubt. And you know in this 466 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.319 they are following the form with Jay White. I believe 467 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.920 that they just always tend to do with wrestlers who 468 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.599 come back from long term absences and long term injuries, 469 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.359 is that they're not going to throw them right back 470 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:13.200 in because if they get reinjured, you have to rewrite everything. 471 00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.839 You have to you know, uh, change the plans, and 472 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.319 you kind of have to just I think test them 473 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.759 in tag matches, in you know, infrequent matches right off 474 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.319 the bat, in order to make sure they're good to go, 475 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:27.839 they get back in ring shape, all that stuff. And 476 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.359 so I would assume that this is just, hey, let's 477 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.160 do this feud. Let's have a good blowoff with you know, 478 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.359 some violence, and then you know, eventually, you know, later 479 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.400 in the summer, fall or whatever, J White can maybe 480 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.920 start to break away or do some more you know 481 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.160 singles and get himself, you know, into something a little 482 00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:51.480 you know, worthy of his talent as far as you know, 483 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.599 more higher up in the card. And so that's why 484 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.000 I kind of see this one. But yeah, I assume 485 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.599 the Bang Bang Gang will win this and we will 486 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:00.640 move on from there. 487 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.880 Yeah. I don't need to see J White like turn 488 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.279 on the Bang Bang Gang or have them turn on him, 489 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.720 but I want to see him become more of the alpha, 490 00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.200 and those guys are just more of the surrounding supporting 491 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:13.400 pieces moving forward. 492 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.519 Yeah, Yeah, I think that that's it's important for him 493 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.200 to start to kind of separate himself and not just 494 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.440 be you know, a leader of a faction. I mean again, 495 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.039 this is you know, you look at AW now, this 496 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:31.440 is what they They are a company with groups of groups, 497 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:36.480 you know, factions. That's you know, that's that's what leads 498 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.079 all this. And when you have a large roster, it 499 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.359 allows you to you know, do a lot of these 500 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:46.359 multi person matches and still tell you know, as the 501 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:51.400 good stories. So yeah, but Jay Whites can separate himself 502 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.000 for sure, So we'll see if they do that. 503 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.960 Next up is the A e W International Title Number 504 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.720 one Contendership six way ladder match. So you know this 505 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.039 one's going to be crazy. We get returning Beast Mortos 506 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.920 the returning Commander, so they have resolved their visa issues. 507 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.319 Commander actually made his return at that brawl in the 508 00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:12.599 ballpark and you could tell he was so excited to 509 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.200 be back in front of an A e W audience 510 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.160 and just performing and just getting back to what he 511 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.200 was doing. Also, l Clone is going to be in this, 512 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.359 Mike Bailey, Jack Perry and Nick Wayne. 513 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:31.839 Look at you spoiling the matches from collision man? Oh yeah, 514 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:36.079 well did you two of those two of those entrants 515 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.319 had to fight in uh? 516 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.680 Okay, Well, when you look at who they wrestle. 517 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.400 I think you I I think it was was clear 518 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.160 you could have gone either way with with. 519 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.039 Some ar Fox in this match. 520 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.799 Oh yeah's right, A R. Fox is wonderful. 521 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:53.039 Mate. 522 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.359 What was who was the other one? 523 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:54.640 Now? 524 00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:00.240 Leo's right, they like Leo Rush. He's certainly who could 525 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.319 have beaten l Clone. You know, No, I'm just kidding. 526 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.559 I'm just messing with you. Yeah, we we assume that 527 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.319 would be the case. Yeah, this, you know, I like 528 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.839 that they do this that It's like, okay, let's you 529 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.400 know this, this card is what the card is. Let's 530 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.440 put a ladder match in there. It'll be fun. We have, 531 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.880 you know, great performers. They're gonna earn a shot at 532 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:24.279 one of the gazillion titles. Okay, but it should be entertaining. 533 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.160 And I think that's what they're trying to, you know, 534 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.640 provide for us for this one. And you know, I'm 535 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.640 down with it. It's it's that in the chain match 536 00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:36.759 seemed to be the violent ones, right mm hmm, and 537 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.000 the and and the Jericho one, which is yeah, we'll 538 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:40.480 get to that. 539 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.920 Yeah, I mean this should be fun. I could I 540 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:49.279 could really see any of these competitors winning, like honestly, anyone. 541 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.599 I could see them even just wanting to propel Nick Wayne, 542 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.960 depending on what they do with Fletcher and Bondio, I mean, 543 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.799 Jack Perry resigning, Mike Bailey. I mean, there's there's a 544 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:01.839 lot of options there. 545 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.799 Yeah. Yeah, poor Mike Bailey has taken a lot of losses. 546 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:09.079 Maybe I'd like to see him, especially since you know 547 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.440 what that actually makes sense because wait, it's for the 548 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:16.160 international right, So that's Kyle Fletcher, so his hatred of 549 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:21.640 the of the Callus family, that would make sense to 550 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.680 give Speedball something. 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Classic bout that they were 563 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.799 in attendance for. We love variety and you can expect 564 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.559 lots of it at the Progress Paradise. Detailed pterwof Torch 565 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.000 VIP subscription information on a list of all the VIP 566 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.160 benefits is available at pterbrew Torch vip info dot com. 567 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:20.440 And yes, all VIP podcasts are compatible with popular podcast 568 00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.039 apps on iPhone and Android devices, or you can stream 569 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.799 them directly from her ad free VIP mobile site. See 570 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:29.160 you in the Paradise. 571 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.160 A e w TBS title match. We have Haikarashida versus 572 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:40.319 Maya World. 573 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.759 Clearly too early to take the belt off Sheida. I 574 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.599 believe I think, uh, you know, giving Maya World some 575 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:50.279 big matches is smart. I think you know her uh 576 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.160 you know, doing well in that in the O in 577 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.359 and then kind of you know, getting out there more. 578 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.279 There's still something you know that they need to do 579 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:04.480 for her. Again, some of these some of these wrestlers 580 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.759 that they're starting to give pushes to, I think could 581 00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:11.759 really use an interview SEC like a set interview, you know, 582 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.160 pre taped with Renee or something like that to let 583 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.200 you get to know these people. It's not like I 584 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.000 want to have Maya World sit down and cry about 585 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.319 you know, her her unfortunate, tragic, you know, family situation. 586 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.720 But but it can be mentioned to use to have 587 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.000 to get people to start to believe more with from her, 588 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.119 to get behind her more and see more of her personality, 589 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.279 you know, because I assume they still had her messing 590 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.640 around with Athena. So I think they might have like 591 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.000 the she might be the one to beat Athena for 592 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.319 the ROH Women's title finally, and she can do some 593 00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.680 stuff there and continue to kind of build there. I 594 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.680 think there's there's promise there with her. I just think 595 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.720 they need to help her out a little bit more, 596 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.359 to help her that the fans connect more with her. 597 00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.440 So I assume she is going to win this one, 598 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.359 but Maya will put up a good fight. 599 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:01.680 Yeah. 600 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.960 To your point, they're putting my world in this too. 601 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.799 They need to build stars in their women's division. I 602 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.279 mean that is you know, one of their biggest deficiencies 603 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.799 is just not having stars there. I'll mention that there 604 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:17.640 is speculation that that Bailey is not gonna resign with 605 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.359 w w E and there has been conversations and uh 606 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.920 a w is rumored to be very interested in Bailey 607 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.319 if she is to become available. 608 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.559 So as they should. 609 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.839 Yeah, as as they should. And I you know, it's 610 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.400 it is another w W person coming in. But I 611 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.000 think given the situation, absolutely they could use Bailey as 612 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.920 a as a big star to help elevate. 613 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.720 Yeah. I mean it's not just as simple as you know, 614 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.720 they shouldn't bring WW a former WWE people in. They 615 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.680 they certainly should if it works for them. I wouldn't 616 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.640 do it just to kind of we're gonna stick it 617 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.279 to WWE or we're gonna, you know, the most it 618 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.799 gets compared mostly to the old TNA you know way 619 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.799 of that that that's what you know they did, and 620 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.240 just have them come up and say, w W didn't 621 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.000 give me a chance, but I'm gonna prove it here 622 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.599 type of type of thing that I don't. I think 623 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.599 you can pick and choose now, and you know, so 624 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.159 I would. I would pick the New Day, I would 625 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.159 pick Bailey, you know, I would look at some of 626 00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.239 the other women that ww has left. Go. I don't 627 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:26.719 know about Seamus. I don't know. I'm torn because he 628 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:32.400 he just he's such a long standing WWE like guy 629 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.519 and he has that WW you know, look and the 630 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.719 way he wrestles. I just don't I think it would 631 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.199 be you know, it would be I don't know, I 632 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.719 don't just don't think. I just I don't think it 633 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.199 would work. Almost like the Hurt Syndicate, which is now 634 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.519 who you know, who knows, what's what's the deal with them? 635 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.440 It's almost like they came in, they did some interesting stuff, 636 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.960 there were some possibilities. I don't know what really happened 637 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.639 behind the scenes and why they kind of you know, 638 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:03.559 the push kind of went away. But they seem to 639 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.559 come in, you know, they wrestle a certain way they 640 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.800 I don't know. It just reminds me too much of 641 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.119 of of WW. I think Shamus would be like that. 642 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.000 I would probably pass on Seamus if I was them. 643 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.000 But but like you know, New Day has has has 644 00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:20.280 the personality, but they can do a lot of the 645 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:25.840 aw style. You know, Bailey, anybody the women to help 646 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.199 this women's division I think would be great because I 647 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.800 just I still think the women's division is stuck and 648 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.800 and you know the characters are and so if you 649 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.079 can bring some fresh in there, I think that would 650 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.079 be great. You know, you can set up these matches 651 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:43.840 that you'd want to see. I want to see Bailey 652 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.400 against Tony Storm now, like I want to see like 653 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.840 if that comes in obviously the Mercedes connection will there'll 654 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.360 be something there, you know, that kind of thing that 655 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.599 would be fantastic, even like a was it Kyrie saying 656 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.960 is is also available? I believe, like you know, I 657 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.280 think she could add something just yeah, just it needs 658 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:08.480 a little something unique, something like Tecla, even though I 659 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.159 I have that's one of my fears that we might 660 00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.199 see the end of Tekla's right. Anyway, we'll get to that. 661 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.039 Let's talk about the tag team match between the Young 662 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.000 Bucks uh and the Death Riders, John Moxley and Will Osprey. 663 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.440 We saw a really kind of cool, unique, like all 664 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.840 star like tag team in the main event here of Dynamite, 665 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.920 where they had Kenny Omega, John Moxley, and Will Osprey 666 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.320 tagging together, and then that kind of bled into this 667 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.800 because of the alignment with the with Keny Omega and 668 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.360 the Young Bucks and then the the Moxley and Osbury 669 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.159 attacking them and then I just kind of led to 670 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.920 a brawl. I mean, this is like the biggest unique 671 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.000 match that I can see just running down this show. 672 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.559 You know. I I I think that there's a chance 673 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.880 that you just have the young Bucks win this one 674 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.280 to try and give them some momentum here show show 675 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.559 a little bit of you know, dissension between Moxley Osprey. 676 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.360 But I think that there's a lot of different ways 677 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.960 that you can go with booking this. I think either way, 678 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.360 despite the finish of it, it's gonna be a lot 679 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.280 of really great action. I can't see it any other way. 680 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.159 Yeah, and I think you're gonna have great action, but 681 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:25.159 you're also gonna have the the dynamic between Ospray and 682 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.760 Moxley that we've seen, which has been very very interesting. 683 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.000 You know, a lot of things were pointed out on 684 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.480 the post show Waite's post show from the other night 685 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.559 of some subtle things they they mentioned, like Osprey opening 686 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.960 the ropes for Moxley as they came into the ring, 687 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.800 like little things that they're doing, Osprey getting that edge 688 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.760 a little bit that's not necessarily healish, but just aggressive 689 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.400 just in that in that way. And I really love 690 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.079 what they're doing with this story there. It's it's really 691 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.400 compelling to me. It's almost like you know, Osprey has 692 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.320 it's not really you know, the devil on his shoulder 693 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.360 with Moxley. But there's something there where Moxley's kind of 694 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.280 you know, whispering, you know, the sweet nothings and and 695 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.840 and it's and it's affecting, you know, the way that 696 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.920 Osprey wrestles. He's and it's too to the better, you know, 697 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.840 it's to the betterment of the way he wrestles. It's 698 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.760 going to be what probably gives him the edge to 699 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.960 beat Omegan become champion, and then we see what happens 700 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.079 after that. You know, I don't know if it's going 701 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.800 to be a someone turning on someone or someone just 702 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.679 you know changing there there was discussion about uh Osprey 703 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.760 turning heel after all in possibly and just kind of 704 00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.880 going that way, or or just getting more of that 705 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.039 edge and and maybe becoming more and more you know, unlikable. 706 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.480 I don't know it. But whatever it is, they've done 707 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.280 such a good job over months to to do this, 708 00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.639 to set this up. Going all the way back to 709 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.039 Omega sitting with Ospray after was it double or nothing 710 00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.519 whatever like that, the whether they were back in the 711 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:09.159 back chatting, you know, before we even thought Omega was 712 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:10.840 going to win the title. All of that stuff. It 713 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.679 just it's been very good. So so, as I said 714 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.760 earlier in the show, this is the one match that's 715 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.639 had such a good build up, then I think it's 716 00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.239 gonna be a great match, very entertaining. I think that 717 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.000 Ospray Moxley have to win this one to continue, because 718 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.719 I don't think you're Hite quite ready for any sort 719 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.840 of dissension between the two of them yet. I think 720 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.440 that if that's gonna happen, it's gonna happen after all. 721 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.320 In yeah, I mean you bring up the point so 722 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.920 that this is not just a traditional Osprey baby face 723 00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.480 leading up to get his huge win at Wembley, that 724 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.039 there's this dark side to him with the death Riders 725 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.880 that he's you know, he's wearing darker colors. He's not 726 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.719 as bright and vibrant as he once was. He just 727 00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.719 and especially with him adding some more tattoos and stuff, 728 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.519 he just seems more of like a bad ass versus like, 729 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.599 you know, the the babyface. I do a lot of 730 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.159 athletics stuff and I kind of flip around. I have 731 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.679 these amazing matches and stuff. That's not to say anything 732 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:15.880 negative about Ospra. I mean, he's he's fantastic in all 733 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.199 of the roles and performances that he's done. But there 734 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:22.719 is definitely some more intrigue here than just a straight 735 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.159 up match that there is a lot more storytelling that's 736 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.639 going to have to lead into All In and what's 737 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:33.639 gonna happen afterwards. So yeah, I think that that, you know, 738 00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.320 you want to keep Osprey looking strong and especially that 739 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.519 relationship that he has with John Moxley, because I think 740 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.599 that the young Bucks are going to quickly pivot into 741 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.000 into something whatever is next for them, which if the 742 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.880 New Day is available for that All in show, which 743 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.199 I believe that they are, I mean that seems to 744 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:56.719 be pretty logical to either have them facing them or 745 00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.599 doing something with with Cage and Copeland. 746 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.000 Yeah, I mean I think I think that all of 747 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.679 that stuff's on the table and that's going to be 748 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.880 very exciting. Yeah, And the one thing I last thing 749 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.920 I'll say about Osprey for now is that you know, 750 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.280 if you're watching him, you know he now has like 751 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.960 a hybrid style. You know, he's not doing as many 752 00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.800 you know, flippy type moves and spots that are that 753 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.920 are wowing you. There's still a few, ever, when he wrestles, 754 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.719 and I'm sure, if he's in a main event and 755 00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.199 it's a singles match, he'll pull out some more. But 756 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.320 he's also got that physical you know style, which which 757 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:37.519 is death rider style. He's winning differently and so I 758 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.760 and it's also you know, doing a little less of 759 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.239 the flippy you know. Chance taking is better on his body, 760 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.199 you know as well, he is coming off of neck surgery. 761 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.360 So I think that's a great way to protect him 762 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.480 a little bit from himself, you know, by changing his 763 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.119 character and not saying you don't have to, you know, 764 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.719 go for that five star match every single time you're 765 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.960 out there and take chance is you know, he apparently 766 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.119 does not have the rubber body that Darby Allen has, 767 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.039 who can just you know, go crazy every single time 768 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.719 and somehow be okay, uh for the next week. But 769 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.719 you know, and so I think it's all been well 770 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.199 thought out. So I'm excited for for what's to come 771 00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.800 on that story and for the Bucks. Yeah, there's lots 772 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.960 of options for the Bucks. And the Bucks you know, 773 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:26.000 they can take losses, you know, and even if it's 774 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.320 and if it's a little nefarious, if there's a little 775 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.239 cheap shot of some sort of little death ridery you know, finished, 776 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.519 you can protect the Bucks slightly as well, and and 777 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.800 probably would anger Omega more and start more of a 778 00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.320 you know, more antagonistic uh, you know, build up to 779 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.239 their match instead of kind of the more friendly that 780 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:47.880 the last two weeks have been. 781 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.840 So let's go into the aw World tag team match. 782 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.400 We mentioned, Caje and Copeland are going to be facing 783 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.480 the death Riders. Claudio and pc You know, I give 784 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.760 no chance to the death Riders. This is just a 785 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.679 way to continue on with Cage and Cope before they 786 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.760 get to you know what seems like these other more 787 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.400 dream match stuff because they did the stuff with the Wardogs, 788 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.679 now they're doing this with the death Riders. Well, the 789 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.119 matches everybody wants to see is against the Young Bucks 790 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.719 or New Day or some other you know, more more 791 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.800 intriguing matchups. So they're in Canada, so they will be 792 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:24.719 big baby faces on the show. 793 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.800 Yeah, I think that's as simple as what you said. 794 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.840 They they want them on the show. They want them 795 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.800 to defend the titles. They found a couple of guys 796 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.639 that would give them a good match, and you know 797 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.280 they'll they'll win in front of their home country and 798 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:37.800 move on. 799 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.119 Mhm. 800 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:44.079 No, holds bar match Jericho versus Tomaso Champa. So is 801 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.239 this the third match in the series. 802 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.199 Now I've lost count. I don't know, man, I just 803 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.599 this painmaker thing is just it's causing to me pain. 804 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.519 Yeah, so he's so he's bringing the New Japan gimmick 805 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.599 of the painmaker. Has he done it in a W 806 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:03.559 He probably has, right. 807 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:08.159 I believe he did at one point earlier on. I believe, Okay, 808 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.079 was it with MJF or something, or it might have 809 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.239 been something because I. 810 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.599 Know he was doing it in New Japan, and I 811 00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.760 can remember against like Tanahashi. I want to say, like Nito, 812 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.480 he was doing as well. 813 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:24.519 You know. 814 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.159 So he's so he it's it's something different where it's 815 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.920 it's almost like Jericho's version of the demon, like Finn 816 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.400 Balor's Demon, where it's like, all right, now it's game on. 817 00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.480 I'm putting the face paint on. You're not gonna like 818 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.039 this side of me. You're not gonna like me when 819 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.960 I'm angry, you know. So Tamasa Champa can also use 820 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.400 the drill, right, no holds barred, So he drilled Jericho's head. 821 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.840 I know this, Just I don't know, man, the I 822 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.119 mean to me. The the shame is that I just 823 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.920 see Jericho winning and I and it's just to the 824 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:02.920 point Champa came in with such you know, a force 825 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:06.280 and winning a title on his first match and seeming 826 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.039 you know, and he has a good look, and he 827 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.880 has a good ad and he speaks well, and it's 828 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.599 and he's got a great entrance and a great song, 829 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.760 and it's like and I just I don't like that 830 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.039 he's now stuck doing these you know, these these programs 831 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:26.599 and with Jericho again, Jericho is so kind of over 832 00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:29.639 the top Jeri koe, which has obviously worked wonderful for 833 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:33.719 him for an entirely you know, huge and successful career, 834 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.400 but it doesn't work for me to like turn switch 835 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.719 now I'm a mean guy. It's almost like, no, you're 836 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.320 just playing a part, You're just painting your face. I 837 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.239 don't I can't buy into it. As all of a sudden, 838 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.480 he's now going to be this you know, intense, you know, 839 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.679 hardcore guy. So they'll beat the hell out of each other. 840 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.119 I really hope there's going to be no weapon that 841 00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.440 could literally kill somebody, but they tend to do that 842 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:06.599 too much. And and I'm gonna assume Jericho is gonna 843 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.480 find a way to win, which is a bummer to me. 844 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.679 I think Champas should win, and Champas should be the 845 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.719 guy that kind of launches himself into more meaningful, you know, 846 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.119 stories than this, but I obviously think that's not gonna happen. 847 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.280 Yeah, there's more mileage to get out of to Maso 848 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.639 Champa at this point than Jericho, but they're finding ways 849 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:30.199 and opponents for him to go up against because he 850 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.000 started with Ricochet and he's got Tomaso Champa. Yeah, I 851 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:34.360 don't know. 852 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:35.840 I don't know. 853 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.800 I feel like there is gonna be a point here 854 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.679 if we keep on this trajectory with Jericho, and like, 855 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.679 if he wins this match, I think we could get 856 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:47.599 to the point where people turn on Jericho again and 857 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.199 you know, maybe maybe he turns heel or something like that. 858 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.599 It just it feels like he did a good job 859 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.280 with taking these losses and getting beat up to get 860 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:58.639 to the point where he wanted to be more reintegrated 861 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:03.280 with things. But I don't know if this path is sustainable. 862 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:06.360 Yeah, I agree. 863 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:11.559 Did you know that you can enjoy commercial free versions 864 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:13.880 of all of your favorite Weight color podcasts and pw 865 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.239 torch Daily casts on Spotify. 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It was supposed to be defended in 888 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:26.119 other in other other promotions, and I want to know 889 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.880 it hasn't been hasn't been defended in other promotions than 890 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.920 a W and I can at least see from Mark 891 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:38.519 Davis's that no, I mean it's ring of honor okay there, Okay, 892 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.559 there is some rev pro so it has been. It 893 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:47.639 has been defended there and cmll so it was. 894 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.159 It was look at you. You you owe Tony Connan 895 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:54.440 apology for you assuming that he that he leftist okay, 896 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:55.280 come back? 897 00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:01.119 So well, you know national title Mark Davis versus Andrade, Well, 898 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.480 I wanted to ask about Andrade because you know, he 899 00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.920 came back, and it was kind of like, all right, 900 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.760 here's a fresh start for Andrade. Guy's got charisma, he's 901 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.920 a good wrestler, and I felt like he was getting 902 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.800 a lot more momentum, but the storyline was he was 903 00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:17.840 constantly being sidelined by the Don Coals family, not getting 904 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.400 his world title shot, and now it just feels like 905 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.639 he's even further and further away from getting his world 906 00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.480 title shot unless they, you know, find some way to 907 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.880 get him into that picture in a couple of weeks, 908 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:32.559 I mean two weeks from now to be at Grand 909 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.039 Slam Mexico. I mean, like, where are you at with him? 910 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.880 Because I feel like they had something going and it's 911 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:43.840 really slowed down being that he's in the national title picture. 912 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:45.199 Yeah. 913 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.440 It's funny how that, like your thoughts of him can 914 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:51.880 change in probably two weeks or so, because that's when 915 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.280 this really happened. So like two weeks ago, I think 916 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.679 he was still you know, he was still coming off 917 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.599 of that. I'm done with the Don Collis family, you know, 918 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.960 F Callous, F MJF shirt, all that stuff. People were 919 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:10.719 behind him. My thought is they they needed They're not 920 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.599 ready to put him in that spot right now, so 921 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.239 they need to have him exact as revenge on the 922 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.800 Callous family and take out a couple of their guys. 923 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.400 I think there's a legitimately high chance he wins that 924 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:26.800 and wins that national title. Yeah, and and and you know, 925 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.440 starts whatever assent you know he's going to have. And 926 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.079 I think there will be a title you know, match 927 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:39.039 in his near future. But that, you know, when you 928 00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.800 bring up kind of losing a little momentum, that's kind 929 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.320 of one of the major issues. That AW has because 930 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.880 of the size of their roster, that you can't get 931 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:56.039 to everybody every single week in meaningful segments. So there's 932 00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.519 a lot of times where you know you won't hear 933 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.480 from someone for a week or so, you know, and 934 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.480 the fact that I know he was close to home 935 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.239 and I know we'll probably hear from him again soon. 936 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.599 But Hangman comes back on a collision and then you 937 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.199 didn't hear from him for two weeks, now, you know, 938 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.400 and you're kind of like, what happened with Hangman? And 939 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.039 you're getting that's why Tony Khin's getting that question during 940 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.000 his call and everything like that. And I'm sure they 941 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.599 have plans for him, but if you're trying to shoehorn 942 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.920 him and Swerve and all these other people in every 943 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.320 single week, you're not gonna have time for anything. You're 944 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.760 certainly not gonna have time for your competitive ten minute 945 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.800 matches that he likes to have, you know often, So 946 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.559 you know, so you're you're at the mercy of that 947 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.679 being an issue. And so I think that might of 948 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:43.039 what might have been what happened with Andrade. But I 949 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:47.239 think he's still popular enough where he beats Mark Davis, 950 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.960 he wins this and then you know, he'll get a 951 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.039 shot and the grant say in Mexico. I think it'll be, 952 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.599 you know, a big night for him in some way 953 00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:58.320 because I think that you know, the crowds will be 954 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.760 with him now and all that, so we'll see. 955 00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.559 So then moving on to the aw International title, we 956 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:10.559 have Bondido taking on Kyle Fletcher to try and win 957 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.840 that championship. I mean, Bondido we mentioned Grand Slam Mexico 958 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.960 coming up factor in that he's probably going to be 959 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.960 another big piece of that show. But I think that 960 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.639 Fletcher versus Bondido just on paper here, with the athleticism 961 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.519 that the both of these guys bring, this could be 962 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.800 the match of the match of the show, you know. 963 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.199 I mean the Young Bucks versus Death Briers definitely has 964 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.079 a different element. There's a lot more of kind of 965 00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.280 that that story long term storyline stuff. But as far 966 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.760 as just like in ring wrestling, Kyle Fletcher versus Bondido 967 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.079 is just as good as anything else on this show. 968 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.079 It is, but I wouldn't have gone there for this 969 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:53.119 one personally, think I think on paper and the match 970 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:54.960 itself is going to be fun to watch and in 971 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.880 the end Bendido's gonna come up short again on a 972 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.159 pay per view against the champion, as he done four 973 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.639 or five other times in recent memory, and I think 974 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.199 you're defining him down by doing that. I think you 975 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.320 could have easily put Brody King in this spot and 976 00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:13.920 to have a good like hard hitting match with Fletcher 977 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.760 and have Fletcher barely beat him and Brody could take 978 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.639 one loss and saving Bendido a little bit from this 979 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.920 repetitive I'm gonna put on a fantastic match and lose 980 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.199 in a pay per view when it really matters. And 981 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.440 so now he's the guy who does that, and he's 982 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.159 not the guy you know, you can really get behind. 983 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.519 And I think he's come such a long way. He 984 00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.559 has proven he has stayed healthy for over a year plus, 985 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.239 which has been it was the knock in the early times, 986 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.039 when he would come in, he'd come in, he'd get hurt. 987 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.239 He come in, he get hurt. He's been healthy, he's 988 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.039 been fantastic, and so I think he should be treated 989 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.159 a little better than this unless there's gonna be some 990 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.960 you know, amazing upset, you know victory, But I don't 991 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.559 see that with Kyle Fletcher at this time. So I 992 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.760 think you're just seeing that same formula, and I prefer, 993 00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:06.719 you know, it be someone other than Bendida who you know, 994 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.239 because they got plenty of guys who can give a 995 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:09.239 great match and lose. 996 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:12.239 Yeah. I mean you mentioned the point that it could 997 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.400 have been brody King, and on Dynamite they had Fletcher 998 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.280 and Alkata versus Bondido and brody King. So it's I 999 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.800 was mentioning like the lack of star power on the show, 1000 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.360 which is giving an opportunity to a lot of other 1001 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.320 wrestlers that don't typically have matches on pay per view. 1002 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.239 But again, I mean just a few more names in 1003 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.480 addition to what I said before. Is Darby Allen's not 1004 00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.880 on this show, Kazucco Okada's not on the show, brody 1005 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.079 King's not on it, you know. So I mean, if 1006 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.800 you're looking for the biggest aw stars, I can't remember 1007 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.280 a pay per view that is lacking of that type 1008 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.840 of star power more than more than this one. 1009 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:49.719 Yeah. Yeah. 1010 00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.920 And and the fact that Bandido beat Kyle Fletcher twice 1011 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.920 technically on Dynamite because of the missed breakup pin that 1012 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:04.800 that was that was really you know, showing that he's 1013 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.119 I don't know, I don't know where you guys needed 1014 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.599 to bring up the mistake there, but yeah, I mean 1015 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.159 to your point, there's so many big names not on 1016 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.280 this pay per view, and I think that's because they 1017 00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.880 had to rush it and they have these things in mind, 1018 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.880 and it's almost like it's not an afterthought of a 1019 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.199 pay per view. And like I said, I believe it's 1020 00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.800 going to be an entertaining night of wrestling, but it's 1021 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.239 just it does not have that hook of oh my god. 1022 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.960 And I think they're saving all of their really really 1023 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.719 big matches for obviously the big show at Wembley. 1024 00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:41.320 Yeah, so next one we have aw Women's World title, 1025 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:45.559 much Tech Love versus Willow Nightingale. So on Dynamite they 1026 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.159 had McK foley was the interviewer on that. So I 1027 00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.880 guess there's a few pieces to kind of pick apart here, 1028 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.639 which is the promo back and forth, the utilization of 1029 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.960 mc foley, and just as a footnote that Tony Kin 1030 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.960 says we should expect to see more Mick on a 1031 00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:05.559 regular basis. Yeah, this, well you start, you start, what'd 1032 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:06.000 you think of this. 1033 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.280 Good use of Mick? I think, you know, this is 1034 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.079 the kind of thing where he's not you know, dominating 1035 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.599 something or they're trying to put him into angles constantly. 1036 00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:21.199 He can just be you know, this a respected you 1037 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.880 know legend that that can help put over you know, 1038 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.119 other wrestlers and they don't you know. And and even 1039 00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:33.199 though he got uh, you know, Tekla insulted him slightly, 1040 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.000 it wasn't like I'm going to you know, I don't know, 1041 00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:40.039 beat you down or whatever. Like it's not it's none 1042 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.960 of that kind of cliched stuff with the legends. It 1043 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.559 was just he did an interview. So I think use 1044 00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.400 his use like that is fine. Throwing him on commentary 1045 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.719 once in a while is great. That kind of role, 1046 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.599 I think is is good for him. The segment was 1047 00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:57.719 up and down, you know, the the just the Willow 1048 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:02.119 act is just it's just tiresome for me. 1049 00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:02.960 It just it. 1050 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.039 It's I know what she's trying to do and what 1051 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.599 she's trying to go for, but I it comes across 1052 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.840 sometimes a little more condescending than it comes across as 1053 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:18.199 like you know, uh, I you know, smile anyway type 1054 00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:21.679 of type of you know, babyface type stuff. So it 1055 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.639 just and I think I've seen enough of her in 1056 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.119 this role where you finally have found somebody in Tecla 1057 00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:33.280 who's unique and is and is very good in the 1058 00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.599 ring and still a work in progress on the mic. 1059 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:40.440 But considering, you know, like her cadence and everything else 1060 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.239 is sometimes a little off, but I think that allows 1061 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.800 her to stand out more. And I think you know, 1062 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.639 you get chuckles from time to time. I know you 1063 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.920 hated her on commentary a couple of weeks ago, but 1064 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.239 I I liked, you know, I liked her. I like 1065 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.159 her with the the dumb bitches you know line and 1066 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.840 things like that and her and I think she gets 1067 00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:02.960 her points across for you know, being having the personality 1068 00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:06.119 she has, so I would want to keep her in 1069 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.599 that role rather than have her lose this title, which 1070 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.000 I expect her to lose. I expect Willow to win 1071 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.360 and set up a Willow against Mercedes all in match, 1072 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.320 but I just I don't want that, you know, now, 1073 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.360 I understand I don't want to heal heal match it 1074 00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:24.519 all in either, you know. But I think maybe at Wembley, 1075 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.880 Tecla gets you know, might get more crowd support than 1076 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.400 you would expect. Maybe not, I don't know, It depends 1077 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:34.719 on kind of how how their back and forth would be. 1078 00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:36.559 I don't think we're gonna even get to that point 1079 00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.559 because I think Willow's gonna win. But I just that's 1080 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:42.840 more intriguing to me. That's more I want to see Mercedes. 1081 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.519 I've seen Mercedes and Willow. It's fine. I don't think 1082 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.840 you're gonna get you know, you're still going to have 1083 00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:52.400 a split crowd, I think with Mercedes and Willow in London. 1084 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.880 So I just I don't know. I'm expecting to be 1085 00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.440 very disappointed if Techla's reign comes to it, And I 1086 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.960 would love it if Techlo wins somehow and sets up 1087 00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.960 just a unique match it all in. That would that 1088 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.960 I would look forward to in ring and in the 1089 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:10.400 promos leading up to it. 1090 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:15.280 M hmm, yeah. I think that there's a possibility, you know, 1091 00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.519 of them do of them doing a three way. I 1092 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.320 don't think that that's like always the way that they 1093 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.320 want to build up their biggest matches on the biggest shows. 1094 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.480 But I'd made the case on a previous show that's 1095 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.840 like Techlo has done a good job as champion, Awkward 1096 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:35.039 promos at times, but you know, good wrestler, you could 1097 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.519 do something a little bit more unique and different. But 1098 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.320 I think that the original plan was to do Willow 1099 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:43.920 and Mercedes before Willow got injured and couldn't be in 1100 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:45.039 the Owen Hart tournament. 1101 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:46.039 You know. 1102 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.800 Also, notably, Mercedes isn't on this show, so you know, 1103 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.000 more lack of star power. 1104 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:50.960 But I agree with you. 1105 00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:54.000 I think that Willow is likely to win this and 1106 00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:59.559 then just move on to a match between her and 1107 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.920 Mercedes eighties. But that just kind of leaves where to 1108 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:04.480 where else does tackle fall, you know, onto this show, 1109 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:06.800 because I think as far as the women's stuff is 1110 01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.639 kind of more or less set for what they want 1111 01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.239 to do. For all, in with having Divine Dominion is 1112 01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.559 probably going to face the brawling Birds. You know, I 1113 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.239 don't know if Julia Hart and Sky Blue are going 1114 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.400 to have anything. And you know, notably on the show 1115 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:23.559 that they won the Stardom Tag team title, so that 1116 01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.599 was cool that they were holding onto those in those 1117 01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:29.840 in that match. So yeah, I think we're on the 1118 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:30.440 same page here. 1119 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.760 Yeah. I actually I wanted to look up to make 1120 01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.599 sure to see if there was any update on Julia 1121 01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.000 Hart because if you notice, at the end of their 1122 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:44.480 match with Divine Dominion, Megan Bain threw the start of 1123 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.760 belt at Julia's and hit her right in the face 1124 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.639 with it, and she seemed to be legitimately hurt. If 1125 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.079 she wasn't, that's a great, great job selling, because I 1126 01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:58.760 really it really seemed like it caught her somewhere, you know, 1127 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.840 I know, or something like that, because she would hit 1128 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:05.639 her hands over her face for a while. So I'm yeah, 1129 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.639 hopeful she's okay. Yeah, but yes, but looking ahead to 1130 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.320 your point, the winds matches seemed to be set up. 1131 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.760 I just I don't know, I don't. I don't know 1132 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.880 how much you're getting out of right now, Willow and 1133 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.880 Mercedes again, but what are you gonna do? 1134 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:24.800 Hey? 1135 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.679 Everyone, longtime PW torchcommist Sean radikin here to let you 1136 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.280 know I've rebamped and renewed the Raticant Worldwide podcast for 1137 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.599 twenty twenty six, a weekly VIP exclusive. Every week, I 1138 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.360 break down four or five of the biggest trending topics 1139 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.320 in pro wrestling. I also present my analysis, providing insight 1140 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.840 that helps you understand the story better or see it 1141 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:48.800 another way. Then maybe it is the controversial takeout there. 1142 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.239 Then I bring on a special guest for the second 1143 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:54.280 half of the podcast. Sometimes it's a wrestler or someone 1144 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.599 else who works in the business. Other times it's a 1145 01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.679 guest analyst who brings their specialized point of view out 1146 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.760 of particular key topic in the news. Recent guests have 1147 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.000 included Bronson Reid from WWE and pc O. One of 1148 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.719 my areas of specialty is the Japan wrestling scene, so 1149 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:10.920 I have to cover a big topic from Japan with 1150 01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:15.280 PW Torch, his own, Alan Farrell, Kelly Wells, and Chris Lansdell. 1151 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.800 I don't just cover the news. I don't just riff 1152 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:20.000 on the news or give a standard hot take. I'll 1153 01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.800 bring my decades of studying this industry and talking one 1154 01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.199 on one with dozens of wrestling promoters to each week's 1155 01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.199 show so you understand not just what's happening, but the 1156 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.400 context of why get ahead of the news, get ahead 1157 01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:37.440 of the pack with Radking Worldwide only at PW Torch vip. 1158 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:40.119 Well. 1159 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.079 That brings us to the main event match here, which 1160 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.280 is the AEW World title is on the line as 1161 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:51.280 Kenny Omega defends against Kevin Knight. You know Kevin Knight 1162 01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.840 has uh you know, has I think he's had a 1163 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:58.000 decent heel run here is thus far, but He's a 1164 01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:02.480 great entering wrestler, and this is certainly a propelling to 1165 01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:05.000 a pay per view main event. I mean, this is 1166 01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:08.800 a shooting him into that spot, and I like that 1167 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:11.599 aw is daring to do it. There was a point 1168 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:13.519 in time where they put Kyle Fletcher into a main 1169 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.480 event pay per view where it felt like maybe that 1170 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.639 was a little bit before he was ready for it, 1171 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.559 and they're kind of doing the same thing with Kevin 1172 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:24.079 Knight here that they don't have a ton of people 1173 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:27.079 who are ready for that spot. But I think what 1174 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.920 were guaranteed is that we're going to get a really 1175 01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:33.519 good match between Omega and Kevin Knight. Obviously, Night, Kevin 1176 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:35.639 Knight is not going to win this match. There is 1177 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.280 absolutely zero chance. Do not put any money on that happening, 1178 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:42.719 but you can put money on the fact that it's 1179 01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:44.360 going to be entertaining to get there. 1180 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.119 I agree, I agree, And you know, this is not 1181 01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:52.960 something I think needs to be criticized or anything or 1182 01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.199 Kevin Knight's not ready for the main event and all 1183 01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:57.880 that stuff. Listen, he may not be. This wasn't the plan, 1184 01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.840 you know, clearly, like you have to. So they they're 1185 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.920 thinking to themselves Okay, what big match can we do? 1186 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:06.440 What person can we put put in this match that 1187 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.800 you know we don't want to blow? Uh, you know, 1188 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.119 a future match with you know, but Kevin Knight is 1189 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.400 it's a it's a it's an audition almost. I would say, 1190 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.000 of okay, you're the main event. Now let's go and 1191 01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.639 crush it. Let's see how you how you do? And 1192 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:25.679 he again a work in progress on the mic. You know, 1193 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:29.159 I think there there's something, you know, I like his 1194 01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.480 facial expressions, you know, I like his kind of cocky 1195 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.400 attitude that he has. There's something there there. He can 1196 01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:37.880 be a good heel as he continues to gain more 1197 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:40.239 and more experience. Again, this is a guy who has 1198 01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.280 not been on you know, uh had to do something 1199 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:45.920 like this on weekly television week after week after week. 1200 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.760 It takes time and raps to to really, you know, 1201 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.039 learn how to do it. He you know, you're going 1202 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.400 to get amazing stuff in the ring and uh, you know, 1203 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:59.960 and as he was against Darby on Wednesday, fantastic opening match, 1204 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.159 you know, with some you know, amazing, amazing stuff. I 1205 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:08.159 think that the one thing I would say that that 1206 01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.480 kind of bugged me. And it again it's a nitpick. 1207 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.719 So it's not like a huge, huge deal. But I 1208 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:17.320 don't want Kevin Knights saying winning the world title would 1209 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.159 make him Kevin two belts number one. That's an old 1210 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.320 you know bit, you know, to call him two belts 1211 01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.360 or rebolts whatever. I just thought, that's old. Don't do. 1212 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.360 Don't use it anymore in my opinion. But the World 1213 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.440 Tighter is so much more prestigious than the TNT Championship. 1214 01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:36.880 It should be on a different pedestal. If you're going 1215 01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.039 to be the world champion, it shouldn't be two belts. 1216 01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.159 It should be I'm the world champion, and I also 1217 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.840 am the TNT champion, Like it should you know, either 1218 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.840 you're putting them both and making them both sea the 1219 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.519 equal yeah or yeah and like or they're equal. Hey 1220 01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:52.239 I got two of these things. It's like, now, if 1221 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.920 you're the world champion, you're the world champion. And they've 1222 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.920 just spent all of this calendar year making the biggest 1223 01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.960 deal about the World Championship, which they should, and they've 1224 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:05.199 done a great job, you know, prioritizing it and making it. 1225 01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:07.719 You know, people swarm it around and everyone wants it, 1226 01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.039 so treat it like that and don't you know, word 1227 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.519 word it like it's an equal to the to the 1228 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.880 lesser belt, So just just throw something there. 1229 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:20.280 Mm hmm, yeah, I don't disagree with that. I I mean, 1230 01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:22.239 it's gonna be interesting to see how this whole show 1231 01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.559 does on pay per view. I don't it's not gonna 1232 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:27.920 be a disaster, but it's not going to be, you know, 1233 01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.559 one of their highest ones. I just think that, you know, 1234 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.159 you can put Keny Omega in a main event and 1235 01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:37.559 to the aw audience, I think he's the biggest star 1236 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.719 that the promotion has. I think that just through his 1237 01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.880 whole legacy and where he's at this point, that they 1238 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:47.760 have framed him as this legendary wrestler that I think 1239 01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.159 that the audience just sees him that anytime you get 1240 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.159 a Kenny Omega singles match, it's a big deal, you know, 1241 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:58.039 despite who the opponent is or or how well that 1242 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.320 they built it. I think that when you put Kenny 1243 01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.800 Omega in a pay per view main event, that they 1244 01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:05.719 know that that that he takes it very seriously and 1245 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:08.760 he's going to give it everything that he has in there. 1246 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.920 So I want to see how that is as a draw, 1247 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.440 especially with him being in Canada. It's not it's not 1248 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:19.360 definitely not his hometown. Canada is a huge country. But 1249 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:24.440 still there's that there's that Canadian pride, uh that that's 1250 01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:25.960 going to be on his side. So I think it's 1251 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.519 gonna be a very electric crowd that's going to be 1252 01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:32.519 excited to see Kenny Omega. And like we said, overall, 1253 01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.679 it's there's nothing that's the huge, huge draw for this show. 1254 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.920 But if nothing else, aw puts on fantastic pay per 1255 01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.559 views in the ring. So I'm very much looking forward 1256 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.440 to how all this stuff plays out and leads into 1257 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.239 the other things that they have coming up here. 1258 01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:52.199 Yeah, and I think Tony Kahan, you know, has proven 1259 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:55.400 he's aware of the situation, he's aware of all the 1260 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:58.280 changes in what people might be thinking. But he also 1261 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.559 will always, you know, because he is a huge wrestling 1262 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.679 fan at heart. He would say, Okay, I'm gonna bring 1263 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.880 back Swerve, I'm gonna bring back hang Man. Mercedes will 1264 01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:10.599 be there, you know, just like you were saying they're 1265 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.360 not on the car doesn't necessarily mean they won't be there. 1266 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.239 So there there might be surprise here and there. You know, 1267 01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.520 there's going to be some some a handful probably I 1268 01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.840 would think at least on this of surprises or and 1269 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:24.880 when I say surprise, it's not like oh my God, 1270 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.239 but just something extra that that are going to give 1271 01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:30.600 you more of your money's worth for doing it, because 1272 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.039 he wants people who don't order it to say I 1273 01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.119 wish I ordered it, and he's always done that, and 1274 01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:40.199 so so I think that that I will it would 1275 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:43.399 expect it not just to be oh, here's a you know, 1276 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.600 a bunch of great matches, enjoy you know, thanks for 1277 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.079 your you know, forty bucks or fifty bucks or whatever. 1278 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.239 I think he's gonna do his best to give you 1279 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.119 your money's worth in some you know, in some way, 1280 01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:56.960 with great matches plus a couple of little surprises. 1281 01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:01.039 The fun thing, too, is that you are going to 1282 01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:03.640 see the follow up to Redemption next week. 1283 01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:08.039 I am I as I will be at the Masonic 1284 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.760 Temple in Detroit for Dynamite next week. I'm very excited 1285 01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.279 for that. It's gonna be a long day. The Lions 1286 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:18.279 open training camp that morning, so I will be I 1287 01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:22.520 will be covering that bright and early at at eight 1288 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.199 a m. That morning and working all day in order 1289 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:28.119 to get out in time to go see Dynamite. So 1290 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:31.239 I'm excited, but just like and I expected, you know, 1291 01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.880 they don't really announce much for the Dynamites after pay 1292 01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:37.920 per views because of the wrestlers going all out a 1293 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.079 lot of times, Tony has to kind of make sure 1294 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:42.439 no one's injured. You know, he probably has ideas of 1295 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:44.119 what he wants to do, but doesn't want to announce 1296 01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:47.319 it yet. So I will, you know, assume it's going 1297 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:49.199 to be a solid show. I know he likes the 1298 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.000 Detroit market once and you know, the last last year, 1299 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.279 I know that was a good show, and so I 1300 01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.199 think he's gonna give us something good and you know, 1301 01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.960 and who knows, whatever happens at the show will get something. 1302 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.760 And it's just it's just annoying to me that like 1303 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:06.319 most of the time they do a Dynamite and Collision 1304 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:09.359 on the same show, and they're having people buy two 1305 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:13.560 separate tickets to go a second night for it, for 1306 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:18.039 oh for next week, yeah for yeah, well yeah, I 1307 01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.399 mean I think in I think in markets that they 1308 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:23.479 that they know they can maybe get a couple of 1309 01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:26.520 days and to give a little you know, extra, like 1310 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.039 they want collision not to just be thrown in at 1311 01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:31.479 the end. I don't mind that, because they did in 1312 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.119 Boston a couple of weeks ago, you know, to give 1313 01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.239 you a Wednesday and a Thursday taping. I last year 1314 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.439 I went to the Dynamite. I did not go to 1315 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:42.920 the Collision, but I heard but it was a good 1316 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.880 show from what I had heard. And I have to 1317 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.039 work this Thursday night, so I can't go to the 1318 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.560 Collision as well. But but yeah, but I can. I 1319 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.079 can certainly tell you from the you know, the group 1320 01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:58.439 of people that I know, uh that you know, love 1321 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.840 AW are very about it coming back, you know, to 1322 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.479 Detroit because I think, you know, I'm assuming there's venue 1323 01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.680 issues and stuff that have prevented it being a mainstay place, 1324 01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.319 because I know that it's been very supportive of AW 1325 01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.159 in the past. You know, the original Blood Guts, the 1326 01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:23.319 the famous Moxley and Omega cage match when when Kallus 1327 01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.279 turned on him. That was all in Detroit, So yeah, 1328 01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:28.840 and got great crowds then, so. 1329 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.840 Yeah, and then that will that Dynamite then leads to 1330 01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.600 Grand Slam Mexico the following week there where they will 1331 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:39.880 be at Arena Mexico, and then just looking further down 1332 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.760 the calendar, we already mentioned all out that they actually 1333 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.279 did announce Full Gear. So Full Gear is going to 1334 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.920 be taking place on November fourteenth in Phoenix, Arizona at 1335 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:52.000 the Mortgage Matchup Center. And I think tickets, I think 1336 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.520 at least the pre sales are up now for that show. 1337 01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:02.840 All right, all right, well, Greg, let's get to So 1338 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.000 Zach sent in this trivia last week and he just 1339 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:07.399 has some trivia stuff. 1340 01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:08.800 So we will we'll go through that now. 1341 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.000 Okay, thanks, let's. 1342 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.880 Go, Zach. Barber says, Fellas, we're gonna dispense with any 1343 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.560 talk and go straight to the trivia this week. This week, 1344 01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:21.319 we're going somewhere we haven't gone in a while. The 1345 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.199 old box of gimmicks. 1346 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.520 Okay, all right? 1347 01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:34.239 Number one before his famous run with head Al snow 1348 01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.319 wrestled in WWE under a mask as what gimmick? That 1349 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:50.600 sounds like it was inspired by a James Cameron movie. Mmm, well, James. 1350 01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:54.640 Cameron Terminator, the Aliens Terminator. 1351 01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:59.800 Yeah, Titanic Avatar. 1352 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.039 Oh that was pre Avatar? 1353 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:07.600 Oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah? 1354 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:10.560 What else did you see? 1355 01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:14.079 I think that I assume it's going to be Is 1356 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:18.039 it a terminator? So he was under a mask? 1357 01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:24.239 Sounds like it came I don't know, probably not aliens. 1358 01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:29.520 There's probably another James. Is it cheating if I look 1359 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:30.560 up James Cameron. 1360 01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:34.760 Movies, I don't think so, Okay, let's. 1361 01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:39.119 Let's entertain this. Yeah, go through here, all right, So 1362 01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.800 James Cameron movies. What am I missing? The abyss? Okay? 1363 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:43.760 So was he abyss before abyss? 1364 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:45.560 Hey? 1365 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:46.119 There you go? 1366 01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:52.960 Maybe so this was this was before al Snow went 1367 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.000 to E. C. W as well? Right, so you're talking 1368 01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.359 it was like mid mid nineties, yeah, right, in my 1369 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:13.279 dark period, which doesn't help. Hmm. Yeah, I don't know. 1370 01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:18.039 I don't know a mask, I don't know. 1371 01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:20.279 Something something to do with abyss. 1372 01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.520 We're gonna go, yeah, okay, sure, go for it. 1373 01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.560 All right, we'll get we'll get like a quarter of 1374 01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.039 credit if it's if it has to do with the abyss. 1375 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:31.159 Okay, Oh my goodness. 1376 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:36.960 Number one Avatar what yep? Under this gimmick, Snow would 1377 01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:40.119 emerge from through the curtain with his face exposed and 1378 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:44.800 then put the mask on. Well, I said, it sounds 1379 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:46.079 like it's you know, it's. 1380 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:50.199 Not inspired, okay, because he said inspired. That's what see 1381 01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:53.199 that throws you off. The word inspired means that Avatar 1382 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:58.960 inspired it therefore, okay, see partial blame for Zach on 1383 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:04.239 this one, because it can nothing can It can't inspire something. 1384 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:05.319 It didn't exist yet. 1385 01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:09.560 So okay, So he's at this avatar gimming. I mean 1386 01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:12.199 it's kind of like a like a ninja. 1387 01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:13.279 Kind of type, you know. 1388 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.239 Yeah, okay, okay, I gotcha, I got you. Yeah, I 1389 01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:17.600 mean this was like, it. 1390 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:19.720 Kind of looks like great sask a little bit, you. 1391 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:26.840 Know, hold, let me look it up. Okay, okay, Oh 1392 01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:30.239 so ninety ninety six, yeah, unfortunately that was my dark period. Sorry. 1393 01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:31.279 Yeah. 1394 01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:32.239 Yeah. 1395 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:36.479 If you're listening to us on the Apple podcast app, 1396 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:38.560 on Spotify, or any other app that allows you to 1397 01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:40.520 rate our podcast, please take a moment to give us 1398 01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:42.680 a five star rating. It really helps us in the 1399 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:46.560 algorithm and helps them know that you recommend us to others. 1400 01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:48.560 Just look for a place to rate the show on Spotify, 1401 01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.840 on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening to our shows, 1402 01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.039 and please click that five star rating, and of course, 1403 01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:54.279 thank you so much for listening. 1404 01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.680 All right, Moving on number two. Uring his time in 1405 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:05.640 us w A The Future, Caine was given this garish 1406 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:07.319 holiday themed gimmick. 1407 01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:16.640 I don't care, Isaac yankm Oh no, that's later. 1408 01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:19.439 Oh my god. 1409 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:23.760 I wouldn't even know where to start. I have no idea. 1410 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.720 I apologize, Zach, but I there's no there's nothing for 1411 01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.119 me to to even start on. I would have no idea. 1412 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.199 Hmmm, I don't know. 1413 01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.399 I'm I'm cheating and trying to get some uh some 1414 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.880 possibilities so I can guess correctly. So give me no 1415 01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:47.439 no uh credit for this one. But I'm just curious. 1416 01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:57.000 Uh wow, that's like old I'm just looking up Caine. 1417 01:16:57.960 --> 01:16:59.680 Yeah, I have I have no yeah. 1418 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:00.880 Yeah. 1419 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:04.279 So the answer is to number two. 1420 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:09.680 The Christmas Creature Christmas Creature. 1421 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.840 Glenn Jacob's Christmas Creature outfit featured candy cane sleeves, tinsel, 1422 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.520 and working lights. So Glenn Jacobs is mad about the 1423 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:22.159 Isaac yankam when people say that to him. Yeah, why 1424 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:23.840 does nobody bring up the Christmas creature? 1425 01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:27.960 And apparently his costume was made by his mother. Oh 1426 01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:29.920 that's what I'm seeing that. 1427 01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:31.239 Yeah? 1428 01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:35.479 So okay, oh us w a the Christmas creature? Who 1429 01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.000 the hell came up with this? 1430 01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.720 Wow? Well? 1431 01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:47.119 Shockingly that he unsuccessfully challenged Jerry Lawler for the heavyweight championship. 1432 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:54.640 Oh well, you know, start somewhere right, Okay. 1433 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:56.479 Can all be the avatar? 1434 01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:57.840 All right? 1435 01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:03.359 Number three what tough as nails. WWE hall of Famer 1436 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:07.439 began her career as Miss Texas and ended it as 1437 01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:09.039 Miss Tennessee. 1438 01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:16.439 Like in like legitimately or the wrestling name was Miss 1439 01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:18.039 Texas and Miss Tennessee. 1440 01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:23.800 I think it's the thing, it's wrestling. I honestly I 1441 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:24.880 think this is Jacqueline. 1442 01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:28.079 Yeah, you know what that makes? Out of sense? 1443 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:28.520 Yeah? 1444 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.079 All right, let's roll number three. 1445 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:32.720 Scrolling down? 1446 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.800 Oh this is Jacqueline great, all right, good jack Chell. 1447 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.960 About the career, Jackie was known as Miss Texas and 1448 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:44.960 us w A us w A, showing up again during 1449 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.399 her first in TNA managing beer money, she was Miss 1450 01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:53.039 Tennessee Jackie Moore. Yeah, it's kind of been her gimmick. 1451 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.680 Okay, well done. 1452 01:18:56.600 --> 01:19:00.199 Number four, when he debuted in WWE, Tracy Smothers was 1453 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.560 given what gimmick name? That was a mashup of the 1454 01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.239 shoot names of a Hall of Fame tag that had 1455 01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:09.239 a member who was very close to Vince McMahon. 1456 01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:35.479 I don't know, oh man, I don't know. I don't know. 1457 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:39.800 Yeah, I mean these are hard, man, these are hard. 1458 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:50.279 Number four is Freddy Joe Floyd. That is just you 1459 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.359 were never we were never going to get there. 1460 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.199 No idea, no idea, What era was this? Did this happen? 1461 01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:00.079 He said? The name is a mashup of Jack and 1462 01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:05.279 Jerry Briscoe's shoot names Frederick, Joseph and Floyd Gerald. Was 1463 01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:08.279 created when Vince heard the brothers arguing with each other. 1464 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:19.840 I see, yeah, okay, so I guess that is that 1465 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.520 mid nineties again. He loves Zach, loves his mid nineties, 1466 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:29.039 loves him. Yeah, Tray just such no help. 1467 01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:32.079 Definitely. 1468 01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:38.039 The six Yeah, okay, yeah, all right. 1469 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:43.399 So number five is bodybuilder and indie wrestler Jeep Swenson 1470 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:47.399 was brought into w c W as part of the 1471 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:52.000 Dungeon of Doom under what controversial gimmick that had to 1472 01:20:52.079 --> 01:21:00.880 be quickly adjusted? I wasn't Jeep Swenson. I think Wade 1473 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.880 like compared like Bronze Stroman or something to Jeep Swinson, right, 1474 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.039 and I am I on track with that obviously. I've 1475 01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.640 never seen a Jeep Swinson match in my entire life. 1476 01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:22.960 So so I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, 1477 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:27.920 I don't know. I gotta tell you, wait a minute, 1478 01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:29.239 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait 1479 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.520 a minute. I don't know if I know. I'm just 1480 01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.119 trying to think if I can. I'm trying to think 1481 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:39.039 of the dungeon, the Doom, if I can remember any 1482 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:46.920 of the stuff they did. Yeah, no, I'm not blanking 1483 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:47.159 on it. 1484 01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:50.399 All right. 1485 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:56.720 Number five is the Final Solution. The Final Solution was, 1486 01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:00.479 of course, the name of Hitler's plan to murder the Jews, 1487 01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:03.960 so Swempson, who was brought in for the infamous Tower 1488 01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:07.680 of Doom steel Cage, was Click, was quickly renamed the 1489 01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:13.359 Ultimate Solution. Wow, what a horrible idea. 1490 01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:18.920 Yeah, yeah, nice, nice going. So well, you know, you could, 1491 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:22.560 I guess back then you couldn't type in uh things 1492 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.640 into into a computer and have it spit out exactly 1493 01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:28.000 you know what it is to double check. 1494 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.479 But yeah, I mean that's true, you know. I mean 1495 01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:35.199 it's like, yeah, I'm quickly now going on too the 1496 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.960 Wikipedia page. But you're right, I mean, like, I don't, 1497 01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:38.640 I don't. 1498 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:43.600 Know, listen, as a Jewish person, I don't I don't 1499 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:48.239 think I would technically take a you know, offence to 1500 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:50.920 that unless the unless the person who made the decision 1501 01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.880 was like a clear awful person and knew it. But 1502 01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:57.279 that's one of those things that you know, I don't 1503 01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:00.960 think I think ninety five set of people have no 1504 01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.399 idea that that's what it was called. In fact, I 1505 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.760 didn't realize it and when you said it the first time, 1506 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.039 until you mentioned it and I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, 1507 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.279 so yeah so. 1508 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:15.000 Jeeves Winson also played Bain in Batman and Robin. 1509 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:24.880 Oh yeah, all right, nice, Well thanks, okay, thank you, Zach. Sorry, 1510 01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:26.720 we will try to do better next time. 1511 01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:31.079 You can send us an email to all Elinked CC 1512 01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:37.720 at gmail dot com with your questions comments trivia. All right, 1513 01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.600 well Greg, next week is going to be another crazy 1514 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:44.039 week of wrestling. So you got you got Dynamite on 1515 01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:48.800 Wednesday and then I have Okay, so Friday is going 1516 01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:51.960 to be They're going to do that Friday Night nightro 1517 01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:54.840 at Mall of America, so in the Rotundo where they 1518 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.840 had the first WCW. So the local indie is going 1519 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.600 to have their their show there. And then also they're 1520 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:05.159 gonna have a hardcore wrestling show at the at a 1521 01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:10.479 VFW in Uptown here with I think various amounts of people. 1522 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:14.239 Then Saturday is going to start out with a GCW 1523 01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:17.720 show making its debut in Minneapolis. They're gonna be at 1524 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:21.279 First Avenue with a couple of names you know, you know, 1525 01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:25.319 Joey Janella is gonna be there, some other some other 1526 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:29.680 people affiliated with GCW, and then Summer Slam Night one 1527 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.479 will be at us Banks Stadium, and then after that 1528 01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:38.199 they're gonna have a GCW versus First Wrestling at First Avenue, 1529 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:42.800 which is gonna start late, and then Sunday will have 1530 01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:45.920 uh or no, they're gonna First Wrestling is just having 1531 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:48.479 a show on Saturday, and then on Sunday is GCW 1532 01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:54.079 versus First Wrestling again at First Avenue, and then SummerSlam 1533 01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:58.000 Night two, so big Summer Slam weekend WWE is going 1534 01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:01.560 to be at the Convention Center here. They're also going 1535 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.880 to have Wrestle con The biggest name announced for it 1536 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:08.119 is Will Osprey will be in town signing autographs, taking 1537 01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:13.039 pictures along with a lot of other WWE alum. So yeah, 1538 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.279 it's gonna be a big, big time of wrestling. I 1539 01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:17.359 know you're not WWE fan, but there's gonna be a 1540 01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.079 lot of indies and all that stuff happening around town. 1541 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:23.680 So I will be exhausted from watching wrestling. I'm not 1542 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.199 sure how much of all this stuff I've bought tickets 1543 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:29.680 for I'm actually going to be able to to be 1544 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.880 able to stick out. But yeah, it's going to be 1545 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:37.079 a fun weekend. First time of kind of these super 1546 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:39.319 weekends that they're having something here locally. 1547 01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.119 Well, I'm very happy for you that you get something 1548 01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:45.479 there locally. It should be a fun weekend for you 1549 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:49.960 with all of the action. I'm excited for Wednesday night 1550 01:25:50.039 --> 01:25:52.840 as well. So yeah, we'll have we'll have plenty to 1551 01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:54.039 talk about, that's for sure. 1552 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:55.000 Yep. 1553 01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.720 All right man, Well let's let's wrap there. I thank 1554 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:02.399 to everybody for listening to our show here, and thank 1555 01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:03.760 you Greg for your time. 1556 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:06.960 Thank you Joel for your time, and thank you to 1557 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:08.920 everyone listening. 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In the interest 1580 01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:22.760 of time and giving opportunities to opportunities to do as 1581 01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:26.399 many of you as we can, please refrain from asking 1582 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.159 two party questions if possible, and let's try to keep 1583 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:34.119 your questions focused to this weekend and Redemption. So with that, 1584 01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:36.560 I'm going to turn over to Tony conference opening thoughts, 1585 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:38.960 and we're going to open the lines for your questions. Tony, 1586 01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:39.439 are you there? 1587 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:42.439 Hey, Thank you very much. Jim. 1588 01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:46.359 I'm very excited about AEW redemption on pay per view 1589 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:48.960 this Sunday. I think it's going to be a great 1590 01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.359 wrestling weekend and AW I believe it to having a 1591 01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.600 tremendous year on pay per view and on TV in 1592 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.640 twenty twenty six. I'm excited to hear your questions and 1593 01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:03.439 answer them and talk to you today and hopefully I'll 1594 01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:05.479 get to answer all the questions today. But if there's 1595 01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:08.640 anybody that does not get to answer a question or 1596 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:12.479 does not get their question answered today, I will be 1597 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.439 around after the AW redemption pay per view for the 1598 01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.920 scrum and I'll stay as long as possible to answer 1599 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:21.960 every single question to make sure everybody who comes to 1600 01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.399 the pay per view gets to ask a question. And 1601 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.840 now we can start with the answering. Now, Jim, if 1602 01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.880 you're ready to start fielding the questions. 1603 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:30.640 Yeah, let's go. 1604 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.720 Okay, So we're going to start with Jason po from 1605 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:37.479 Pro Wrestling dot Net and then on deck would be 1606 01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:40.840 Brian's Elm from PW Torch. So, Jason, if you're ready 1607 01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:41.920 to go. We're ready for you. 1608 01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:44.640 Let me know I am, can you hear me? 1609 01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:45.960 We sure? 1610 01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:46.159 An? 1611 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:46.600 Yeah? 1612 01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.840 Excellent? All right, Tony, Redemption is starting an hour earlier 1613 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.239 than your other pay per views. Are you planning to 1614 01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:56.239 make this the new norm? Or is this maybe more 1615 01:28:56.279 --> 01:29:00.159 about the public transportation shutdown time in Montreal. I'm just 1616 01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:01.600 kind of curious where things are going. 1617 01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:04.920 I wanted to try this. I thought it would be 1618 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:07.399 a good idea for the start. 1619 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:09.439 Time of this pay per view. For the next pay 1620 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.920 per view, the star time will be earlier because it'll 1621 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:14.000 be taking place. 1622 01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:16.479 From the UK. Our next pay per view after Redemption 1623 01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:18.199 at aw All in London. 1624 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:22.840 So trying some different things, and I thought it would 1625 01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:28.079 be a very good thing to experiment with to try 1626 01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:32.439 an earlier start time. And it's similar to the previous 1627 01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:34.960 start time. It's an hour earlier, but still a night 1628 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.119 pay per view. And I think there's a lot of 1629 01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.319 fans really excited about this event. I know I'm really 1630 01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:40.119 excited about it. 1631 01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:44.079 And should be a great pay per view. I wanted 1632 01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:48.760 to started an hour earlier and be how that works. 1633 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:50.439 Thanks for asking. 1634 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:57.560 Thanks Jason Brian Zylem from PW Torches next. Brian will 1635 01:29:57.600 --> 01:30:00.399 be followed by Dave Meltzer from Wrestling Observer. 1636 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:04.880 Brian Tony can you hear me? 1637 01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:05.239 Okay? 1638 01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.439 Yeah, Hi Brian, Hi Tony. Thanks for the time and Tony. 1639 01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:14.399 Going into the Redemption pay perview of this Sunday, I 1640 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.760 couldn't notice, but one of the aw's biggest stars is 1641 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:20.439 currently not scheduled to compete on the show, and that's 1642 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.439 Swerve Strickland. Can you share any updates on his status 1643 01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:25.399 and when fans can expect to see him back on 1644 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:26.479 AW programming. 1645 01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:27.039 Thanks? 1646 01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:30.199 Well, that's a great question. I'm going to be with 1647 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:32.680 Swerve at the Comic Con this weekend. I'm really looking 1648 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:36.880 forward to that. And Swerve has been out of action 1649 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:40.680 since his last match and has been working on some 1650 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:41.880 things outside of wrestling. 1651 01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:44.159 He's been very good standing with AW and. 1652 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:48.680 I'd be happy to answer more about it after AW Redemption, 1653 01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:52.000 but with set Swerve certainly as part of the San 1654 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:56.800 Diego Comic Con tomorrow and as far as when you'll 1655 01:30:56.800 --> 01:31:01.760 see Swerve next on AWTV Day tuned and I like that. 1656 01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:03.920 I'll be answering questions after the pay per view too, 1657 01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:06.000 so I can follow up with you then. 1658 01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:07.039 Thanks for asking. 1659 01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:09.720 Thank you, Brian. 1660 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:13.479 Dave Meltzer from The Wrestling Observer is next, and Dave 1661 01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:18.960 will be followed by Samantha Shipman from Power Bombshells. Yes, 1662 01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:20.560 can you hear me? We can? 1663 01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:22.560 Yeah? Hi? Okay, great? Hi. 1664 01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:26.680 I have a question that I've seen a topic that's 1665 01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:28.840 kind of come up a lot on social media, and 1666 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.159 then it was actually a situation that I came into 1667 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:34.800 contact with in a real life situation a couple of 1668 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.560 weeks ago when I attended the g One and that's 1669 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:40.439 actually about AW Hills. I noticed that there have been 1670 01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:44.159 conversation about it being on hiatus, and I ran into 1671 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.439 someone who thought I was a Hills member and when 1672 01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:50.520 she heard me, she ever heard me talking about taking photos, 1673 01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.199 And so that's because that's the topic that's come up. 1674 01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:56.319 Can you shed any light on when aw Hills may 1675 01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:00.000 return or any type of information that you can provide 1676 01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:01.399 for their subscribers. 1677 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:04.800 It's a good question. 1678 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:05.319 Uh. 1679 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:10.439 Aw Heal started years ago as a great project for 1680 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:14.520 the female wrestling fans. I have not been an active 1681 01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.840 participant in heels, and I'm not sure it's a good question. 1682 01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:20.960 I'll have to ask some people on the business side. 1683 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.359 There's so many things happening in ADW wrestling right now 1684 01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:28.880 and in the world of professional wrestling, so I'm not sure. 1685 01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:31.000 I wouldn't want to give you the wrong answer, so 1686 01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:33.439 I'd have to check and get back to you. But 1687 01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:34.680 maybe maybe i'd. 1688 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:37.319 Have more information after the pay per view. I just 1689 01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.119 don't have it in front of me right now. Thanks 1690 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:40.520 for asking. 1691 01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:44.640 Thanks Samantha. We're gonna try Dave Melcher again, and on 1692 01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.239 the on deck circle will be Sean Radikin from PW 1693 01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:51.680 Torch dot Com. Dave, We're gonna give you another tryer either. 1694 01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:57.960 No, I think I think dave'savn't some Okay. 1695 01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:03.159 Let's let's we'll keep We'll keep David the queue here, 1696 01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:05.520 but how about Sean Radikin? 1697 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:05.920 Are you there? 1698 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:06.239 Sean? 1699 01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:07.479 Hi? 1700 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:08.119 Can you hear me? 1701 01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:10.520 Yeah? Here' you're great? Hi? Sean? 1702 01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:11.439 Hey? 1703 01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:14.399 How are you doing great? How are you man? 1704 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:15.439 I'm good. 1705 01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:16.600 Uh. 1706 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:21.000 Redemption is coming before All In in London next month, 1707 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:23.079 which is a very big pay per view for you. 1708 01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:26.119 You already have a big match promoted for a big 1709 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:29.119 main event. I want to ask you with Redemption kind 1710 01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:30.960 of pop. I don't know how last minute it was 1711 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.199 for you, but but with Redemption popping up on the 1712 01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:38.079 schedule just recently, and with all In around the corner, 1713 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:43.399 how how difficult has it for you to juggle promoting 1714 01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:47.079 this redemption card and with all In right around the 1715 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:48.399 corner the UK next month. 1716 01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:52.319 Well, I think it's been additive. Right now, we're in 1717 01:33:52.359 --> 01:33:53.520 a very strong period. 1718 01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:57.800 The AWTV viewership in recent weeks is the highest that 1719 01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:01.520 it's been in years on TV. Yes, and when you 1720 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.760 add in that years ago we had no streaming viewers, 1721 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.840 we did not have the HBO Max agreement yet, and 1722 01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:13.640 now we have those viewers in addition to our TVFTV viewers. 1723 01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:17.239 So I believe this is the most fans watching AW 1724 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:20.159 in many many years and one of the greatest periods 1725 01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:22.439 for AWTV viewership ever. 1726 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.680 And it feels like a very hot time. 1727 01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:28.479 And I think it's been very additive to have the 1728 01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:34.239 immediacy of important matches and rivalries going into AW redemption, 1729 01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:35.239 and AAW. 1730 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:37.760 Redemption is going to be a very important show on 1731 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:42.359 the path to AW all in. And I think. 1732 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:46.079 When the facts come out after the pay per view, 1733 01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:47.760 this is going to be a tremendous pay per view 1734 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:50.600 and a very important show to watch on the way 1735 01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:54.560 to AW all in London, and I expect we'll continue 1736 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:58.239 the run of tremendous AW pay per views on our 1737 01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:00.439 way to what will be one of our biggest ever 1738 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:02.399 all in London next month. 1739 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:03.560 Thanks for asking. 1740 01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:07.920 Thanks Sean. We're gonna circle back with Dave Meltzer to 1741 01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:11.800 see if Dave's there. In behind Dave will be Andrew 1742 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:16.439 Baidala from Final Bell Media. Dave, can you hear me? 1743 01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:18.199 Yes? Yeah, I did? 1744 01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:19.800 Oh, oh, great, great, Okay. 1745 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.760 I know that there seems to be a number of 1746 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:27.319 people who are suddenly free agents that are on the market, 1747 01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:32.119 and I'm wondering if some of these names intrigue you 1748 01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:34.880 or not. And but also just the update, if there's 1749 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:38.399 any update on the status of Sammy Gevara or Ana 1750 01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:39.279 Jay and Timelo. 1751 01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:46.600 Oh sure, well I'll do those in uh okay, maybe 1752 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:47.800 I'll start in reverse order. 1753 01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:50.239 Sammy. 1754 01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:53.840 I thought it was unusual that people said there was 1755 01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:56.479 a change in Sammy's datus because nothing had changed. Sammy's 1756 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:59.920 done well, he's wrestling in Ring of Honor more often, 1757 01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:02.760 He's done some good things in AW and as one 1758 01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:05.520 half of the ROH World Tag Team Champions, had appeared 1759 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:10.319 in AW with LFI and it wasn't Sammy's fault. 1760 01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:12.439 Beast Mortos's visa had been jammed. 1761 01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:14.439 Up for a very long time, so because I really 1762 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:18.720 like Sammy and Beef Mortos, I had gone to CMLL instead. 1763 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:21.439 They're great champions and they've done very well for me. 1764 01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.760 I think they'd be very good for CMLL, and they 1765 01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:28.680 got booked in Arena Mexico defending the championships, made a 1766 01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:33.000 few defenses, and then lost the championships to Mascriderta and Mexico. 1767 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:35.760 As I understand it, when Sammy changed his bio, I 1768 01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.199 don't think Sammy ever had AW in the bio in 1769 01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:39.680 the first place, so I don't think it was any 1770 01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:42.039 negative change. And I got a nice message from Sammy 1771 01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:44.840 thing he wasn't trying to do anything bad and he 1772 01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:49.000 loves AW and I believe that. And Sammy has been 1773 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:52.399 a good wrestler for us in AW and roh. She's 1774 01:36:52.439 --> 01:36:55.960 a great talent and a very good person. So I 1775 01:36:56.039 --> 01:37:00.000 don't think he meant to do anything, And it seemed 1776 01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:02.079 like people jumped on him for something he didn't even do, 1777 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:06.600 certainly just messing around with a Twitter bio. It's pretty 1778 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:09.880 amazing how people would jump to conclusions but also jump 1779 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:11.720 on him and in my opinion in. 1780 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:15.920 This case, probably unfairly. And that would bring me to 1781 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:17.520 some other things. 1782 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:21.560 Anna j and Ty as individual people and as a team, 1783 01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:24.039 they've been great as a team and as individuals. They've 1784 01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:28.119 both been here for many, many years, and the status 1785 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.479 I would say is very different on both. I saw 1786 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:34.039 a lot of things on both of them being reported 1787 01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:35.399 that were very inaccurate. 1788 01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:39.279 Anna is in very good standing with us. Anna is 1789 01:37:39.319 --> 01:37:40.279 out injured right now. 1790 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:42.800 I had been hoping to book Anna in recent weeks 1791 01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:47.399 on shows and she has an injury and last week 1792 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.279 she was going for an MRI. But Anna is somebody 1793 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:53.640 who also is in good standing with AW and also 1794 01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:57.039 has a lot of time left and has extended their 1795 01:37:57.119 --> 01:37:58.119 contract with AAW. 1796 01:37:58.399 --> 01:38:00.600 So in her case also. 1797 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.159 It's somebody that I see a lot of reporting about 1798 01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:07.079 that is inaccurate and rather than you know, I have 1799 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:09.800 a lot of work and I don't think that's a secret, 1800 01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:14.239 and I am not spending all my time myth busting 1801 01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:17.880 and a lot of times these myths get carried away. 1802 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:19.960 So Anna has actually extended and is going to be 1803 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.479 staying in AW, which is far to the contrary of 1804 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.520 what a lot of the wrestling media has reported, which 1805 01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:26.600 probably speaks to the accuracy of a lot of these 1806 01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:31.520 reports that you see in pro wrestling. And then with Tie, 1807 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:35.399 also a lot of inaccurate things I saw about Tie, 1808 01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:40.840 And to be honest, there in this case, there was 1809 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:43.239 smoke to the fire, but the people were reporting the 1810 01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:44.640 fire in the wrong place. 1811 01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:49.279 So what did that really accomplish? And with Tie, Ty 1812 01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:50.319 had said she. 1813 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:52.960 Wanted to step away from wrestling. She had said, I 1814 01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.199 love AW and I love the people here, but I 1815 01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.119 wanted to step away from AW and step away from wrestling. 1816 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:01.520 And that's what she told told me. That wasn't in 1817 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:06.640 twenty twenty five. That was weeks ago at Collision, after 1818 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:10.239 she wrestled against the Divine Dominion, and she came to 1819 01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:13.000 me after the match and said I would like the 1820 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:17.399 relief and I was taken aback and we had a 1821 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:21.039 very nice talk. It's far to the contrary of what 1822 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.600 I've seen reported about this game last year, or that 1823 01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:27.439 it's been an ongoing thing. And I heard from Tie 1824 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:29.760 this week and she said she's not putting those reports 1825 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.760 out and it really bothered her. And you know, we 1826 01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:37.239 haven't had an unpleasant conversation ever I've always had a 1827 01:39:37.359 --> 01:39:39.279 very good relationship with Tie, and. 1828 01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:43.840 She had asked about stepping away recently. It hasn't been 1829 01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:44.479 a long thing. 1830 01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:47.680 And also I haven't kept her here since that talk. 1831 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:50.079 I haven't brought her back, booked her, and I am 1832 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.239 going to give Tie that release. I think it's amazing 1833 01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:55.159 in all three of these cases, Dave, I've seen a 1834 01:39:55.239 --> 01:40:00.279 lot of things that were in acturate, and all three 1835 01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:02.359 of them are pretty different from each other. 1836 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.800 And here's the thing. AW is doing some of our 1837 01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:06.640 best work right now. 1838 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:10.119 We're having our biggest viewership for our TV in years, 1839 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:16.159 and as the mainstream media and as major media conglomerations 1840 01:40:16.239 --> 01:40:19.199 for taking notice of how strong aw's performance is, how 1841 01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:21.720 good the viewership is, and how hot the company is, 1842 01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:23.560 and the pay per views are doing so well and 1843 01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:26.439 going to HBO Max, and the quality. 1844 01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:27.239 Of the product is very high. 1845 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:31.399 Yet every time we get like we're in a very 1846 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:34.920 good position, it feels like people start talking about things, 1847 01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:38.600 and a lot of times, not only do they bring 1848 01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:42.920 up conversations completely beside the point of how well Aw's doing, 1849 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:44.159 which is fine because there's a lot. 1850 01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:46.520 Of things to talk about, but it's amazing how often 1851 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.119 the things that are being. 1852 01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:52.199 Reported are either exaggerated or completely inaccurate or made up, 1853 01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:55.399 but that is the truth on all three of those. 1854 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:57.680 Then you ask me about the free agents. There are 1855 01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:02.279 a lot of great free agents in wrestling, and particularly 1856 01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:06.159 right now, there's a lot of people coming out of contract. 1857 01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:09.279 It's no secret that a lot of very talented wrestlers 1858 01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:13.720 were released recently from their contracts and it has put 1859 01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:16.720 more people on the market, absolutely, and it's something that 1860 01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.800 I am keeping an eye on because I'm very cognizant 1861 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.079 that there's a lot of really tallened people that just 1862 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:26.159 got fired or cut or released, and I am keeping 1863 01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:30.560 an eye on that. So it's certainly a very interesting 1864 01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:34.119 time in pro wrestling and an exciting time for AW again. 1865 01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:38.000 I'm so thrilled about how strong the viewership has been 1866 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:43.520 and very very excited about AW Redemption and about the 1867 01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:48.079 road to AW all In because I think that there's 1868 01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:50.720 going to be an incredible event there and I think 1869 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:52.920 it'll be a massive success for AW. 1870 01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.640 And I appreciate you asking. 1871 01:41:56.760 --> 01:42:00.840 It's certainly a big summer for AW for wrestling, and 1872 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:03.119 right now it feels like the best period for AEW 1873 01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:04.479 in many years. 1874 01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:08.439 And I would say arguably the best period for AW. 1875 01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:11.920 Ever, or one of the two best periods for aw ever, 1876 01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:15.039 And certainly I would say this is the best in 1877 01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:17.800 at least five years, if not ever, the aw's been doing. 1878 01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:20.199 Thank you, Thanks Deve. 1879 01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:24.119 You know that last segment you're just listening to and 1880 01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.279 the next one that you're waiting to listen to, those 1881 01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:28.800 can be one second apart. 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Hi, I hope you 1897 01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:19.239 are well. 1898 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:20.000 Uh. 1899 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.600 With aw Redemption being this Sunday, and with all the 1900 01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:27.960 recent discussions circulating on TV and social media about Kenny Omega, 1901 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:32.279 your World champions in ring career potentially winding down, I'm 1902 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:35.600 curious about your thoughts. You and your team are very 1903 01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:38.479 well known for being purposeful in your decisions, especially when 1904 01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:42.159 your commentators say something on your television programmings. And considering 1905 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.319 Kenny's walking into Canada and Montreal as your world champion, 1906 01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:48.119 and he also may be headlining Wimbley Stadium, can you 1907 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:50.720 shed some light on whether these significant events are part 1908 01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:54.239 of checking boxes for a potential conclusion to Kenny's career? 1909 01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:56.359 Can you can you? 1910 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:58.800 I'm sorry I might have misunderstood the question. 1911 01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:01.840 Can you can you ask from the beginning that same 1912 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.079 question again just to make sure I understand it before 1913 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:04.479 I answer it? 1914 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:05.520 Sure? Thank you. 1915 01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:09.319 Basically, with all the recent discussions circulating on TV and 1916 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:13.520 social media about Kenny Omega's in ring career potentially winding down, 1917 01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:16.840 and I know your team and you are very purposeful 1918 01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:19.039 in your decisions on what gets on television and what 1919 01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:22.680 the announcers say, and Kenny's walking into Canada and Montreal 1920 01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:25.520 is your world champion, and he also may be headlining 1921 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:28.199 Wimbley Stadium as the world champion. Can you shed some 1922 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:31.479 light on whether or not these significant events are part 1923 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:35.079 of some boxes that Kenny's checking for a potential conclusion 1924 01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:35.680 to his career. 1925 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:38.640 I appreciate you asking that. 1926 01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:43.000 I think that Kenny is in phenomenal condition, and Kenny's 1927 01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:48.800 excellence and his endurance are a miracle because what he 1928 01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:52.359 went through was a medical emergency and it's something that 1929 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:56.640 had the potential to end his career and potentially end 1930 01:44:56.720 --> 01:45:00.960 his life. So for Kenny to be at the top 1931 01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:04.600 of the profession, to be the greatest wrestler in the 1932 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:08.920 sport and still on top, it's very special. 1933 01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:11.680 And I think all of us are very happy about it. 1934 01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:14.479 But we're also celebrating Kenny being at the top and 1935 01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:19.239 appreciating it, favoring it, because there was a time when 1936 01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:21.199 we were concerned Kenny might not be able to get 1937 01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:24.039 back in the ring, and honestly, we were much more 1938 01:45:24.079 --> 01:45:26.199 worried about what was going to happen. 1939 01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:31.359 So I think outside of the ring, there were. 1940 01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:36.520 Outside of the ring, there were concerns about Kenny's well 1941 01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:39.119 being that far outweighed. 1942 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:45.520 The sporting aspect of it. But it's so exciting that. 1943 01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:51.560 He's survived and thrived and that he has made this 1944 01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:52.680 incredible comeback. 1945 01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:56.279 And in sports, we love comebacks, and in. 1946 01:45:56.920 --> 01:46:02.640 Pro wrestling, it's so special when somebody can overcome significant 1947 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:05.760 adversity to rise back to the top of the sport, 1948 01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:12.439 and in Kenny's case, he's, in my personal opinion, one 1949 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.960 of the greatest wrestlers of all time and somebody that 1950 01:46:16.279 --> 01:46:21.000 I looked up to and admired long before I worked 1951 01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:25.880 with him in AEW as one of the most important 1952 01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:27.600 figures in this sport. 1953 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:31.079 And to have Kenny back on top of the AW. 1954 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:33.960 World champion now in twenty twenty six, it's so special 1955 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:36.319 for so many reasons, and I think all of us 1956 01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:39.079 in AW were savoring it very much and looking forward 1957 01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:44.039 to Kenny Omega defending the AW World Championship this Sunday 1958 01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:48.199 in his home country at AW Redemption, which is something 1959 01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:51.760 very special for all of us and it marks a 1960 01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:52.600 big milestone. 1961 01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:55.800 And the wrestler he's facing is somebody in a very 1962 01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.159 different point in his career, a rising star. 1963 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:04.560 Who continues to develop up yet his potential is seemingly limitless, 1964 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:10.720 and the way he ended was certainly an incredible exclamation 1965 01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:14.600 point on the go home dynamite before AW Redemption for 1966 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:21.039 Kevin Knight to fly in literally from off screen with 1967 01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:24.520 one of the most athletic dives over the top rope 1968 01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:28.880 and knock Kenny down and then hold up both the 1969 01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:33.079 championship belt, the TNT title and Kenny Omega's AW World 1970 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:36.399 Championship Belt, symbolizing that Kevin Knight the Jet believes he 1971 01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:39.760 can become the double champion and become the. 1972 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:43.439 AW World Champion at AW Redemption. 1973 01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:49.319 It's a very exciting match for many reasons, and in 1974 01:47:49.399 --> 01:47:52.000 the case of Kenny Omega, everything Kenny Omega does in 1975 01:47:52.119 --> 01:47:56.520 wrestling is very special because we were all worried we 1976 01:47:56.680 --> 01:47:59.239 might not see him back in wrestling, and frankly worried 1977 01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:01.800 we would not see h at all. So I think 1978 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:04.560 it's a very happy occasion for us. Thank you for 1979 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:07.479 asking about it. Thank you. 1980 01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:12.760 Andrew Aditya Raul from ITR Wrestling is next to be 1981 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:15.439 followed by Amy Nemadee from wrestle Joy. 1982 01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:17.520 Hi, Tony can you hear me? 1983 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.399 Yeah? Hi? How are you great? 1984 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:22.119 How are you so? 1985 01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:24.680 I was going to ask you about Kevin Knight and 1986 01:48:24.960 --> 01:48:28.560 Kenny Omega, but instead I'm going to pivot to the 1987 01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:33.560 AEW Women's World Championship with Tecla and Willow Nightingale. So 1988 01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:37.079 Tecla has very quickly become one of the most dominant 1989 01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:40.520 AW champions, not only feuding with the Women of AW 1990 01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:44.399 but also taking on the entire Company of Stardom in Japan. 1991 01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:47.720 She just returned this week holding new gold with a 1992 01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:51.199 Triangle of Madness with the Artist of Stardom Championship. 1993 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:54.880 And Willow is one of the most beloved women in 1994 01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:59.239 pro wrestling, having just returned from an injury immediately going 1995 01:48:59.319 --> 01:49:01.279 on to win the Cause you know, Gauntlant now earning 1996 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.840 this title shot against Tecla at Redemption. Can you talk 1997 01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:08.000 about the dynamics of both of these women, what they 1998 01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:11.439 bring to the championship and your expectations heading into this match. 1999 01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:12.920 Thank you well. 2000 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:17.399 They're both great champions, both have been great champions in 2001 01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:23.840 AEW and around the world, both international stars, and in 2002 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.439 Tecla's case, she's coming to AW and risen to the. 2003 01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.439 Top very quickly. Willow is somebody. 2004 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:32.000 That's been here for many, many years, working her way 2005 01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:36.600 up and it has not been the rapid ascent of Tecla. 2006 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.079 Willo has continued to work her way up the card 2007 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:45.279 and become a great champion, and while Tackla has broken 2008 01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:50.399 into AW and won the AW World Championship very quickly. 2009 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:53.199 All things considered, since she arrived in all. 2010 01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:57.920 Of the wrestling, Willow has been with us since the 2011 01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:04.920 pandemic Daily's Place era and works her way into prominent 2012 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:09.680 positions on the cards. She's become the TBS Champion and 2013 01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:11.840 a World Tag Team Champion, but she's never been the 2014 01:50:11.880 --> 01:50:16.239 World Champion of AW. And I do think that Willow 2015 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:20.840 is somebody who represents some of the very best of AW. 2016 01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:23.359 And I do think that Tekla is somebody who also 2017 01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:25.840 has come into AW and represents. 2018 01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:34.800 How tremendous the growth and the building of. 2019 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:39.359 AEW has been throughout the past few years to get 2020 01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:41.439 to the point we're at in the present day, where 2021 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:46.960 today aw's in the strongest position in many years, possibly 2022 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:50.279 our strongest position ever, with the brightest outlook for the 2023 01:50:50.359 --> 01:50:54.640 future in AW seven year history, being right now and 2024 01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:00.880 having great stars come in, and having the free agents 2025 01:51:01.680 --> 01:51:05.159 in the world title picture and becoming champions free agents 2026 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:09.079 that have been here just since last year, like the 2027 01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:12.560 TNT champion Kevin Knight wrestling for the world title, and 2028 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:17.520 like the Women's World Champion Tekla. That has been very 2029 01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:22.000 important to AW and has helped keep strong because we 2030 01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:25.479 have so many great wrestlers that have been here throughout 2031 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.439 the different times, people that have been here from the 2032 01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.640 very beginning, from the very first show, Double or Nothing 2033 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.359 twenty nineteen, and people that arrived in that first year, 2034 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:37.000 people that came in through the pandemic era, and then 2035 01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:39.560 throughout the years we've added more and more stars. And 2036 01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:42.479 this crop that came in last year, they've done a 2037 01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.640 fantastic job and when you watch AW Redemption, they're all 2038 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:49.560 over the card in important positions and mixing it up 2039 01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:52.119 with great stars that have been in AW in many 2040 01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:54.000 cases from the very beginning, some of the. 2041 01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:58.840 Original top AW stars, and I'm very excited about that. 2042 01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:02.840 And throughout the card, I think there's a lot of 2043 01:52:03.039 --> 01:52:05.600 very exciting matchups and again I believe this will be 2044 01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:09.039 a very important show as a pay per view to 2045 01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:12.840 continue the run of excellent AW pay per view events, 2046 01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:17.359 but also as an event leading into AW All in London, 2047 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:20.760 as the pay per view that precedes AW all in London. 2048 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:22.600 This is a very important show and I think it's 2049 01:52:22.600 --> 01:52:23.239 going to be excellent. 2050 01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:28.319 Thank you Amy. We're gonna try a d row again 2051 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:31.520 from it tr Wrestling, to be followed by Dominic D'Angelo 2052 01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:34.359 from Studio one Sports dot Com. We're gonna try a 2053 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:35.159 d are you there? 2054 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:37.199 Yeah, Hi, hi, tot hey. 2055 01:52:38.399 --> 01:52:40.800 I hope you're having a great day. Really looking forward 2056 01:52:40.840 --> 01:52:45.680 to the show. Talking about the show, the EW Redemption 2057 01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:51.319 card is having an MJF sized gap in the match card, 2058 01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.159 So just want some clarity if this time off of 2059 01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:58.039 his was planned, or you know, if you could just 2060 01:52:58.119 --> 01:52:59.960 give us more clarity why he's not on the show. 2061 01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:02.840 Thank you well, thank you. 2062 01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:06.439 MJF was in a very hard hitting match with Kenny Omega. 2063 01:53:06.520 --> 01:53:10.760 Is in some very hard hitting matches and has been 2064 01:53:10.920 --> 01:53:15.520 an incredible fighting champion in twenty twenty six, doing something 2065 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:19.239 very different than in his previous time as the champion. 2066 01:53:19.319 --> 01:53:22.680 Before twenty twenty six, mgf's been out on TV, on 2067 01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:25.720 pay per view, even on house shows, fighting in big matches. 2068 01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:31.680 And MJF is not a nice guy. He's not a nice. 2069 01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:35.199 Person, but he's a great wrestler and we love having 2070 01:53:35.319 --> 01:53:37.960 him as a part of AW when he's healthy and 2071 01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:39.359 fit to compete. 2072 01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:42.119 He's definitely been through a lot of big matches. 2073 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:45.319 That's what's tremendous about having such a strong roster of 2074 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:49.760 wrestlers being able to not have to pressure them because 2075 01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:52.600 we want to extend these wrestlers careers. And in the 2076 01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:55.000 case of an MJF, that's somebody that I hope is 2077 01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:57.760 wrestling for decades and decades at a very top level. 2078 01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:01.720 He's a very young man, and he's had some major 2079 01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:03.399 injuries this year that he's. 2080 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.479 Been fighting through as a credit to him, and and 2081 01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:09.840 you know, I think it speaks highly of MJF. And 2082 01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:13.159 I would not be the person out here praising and 2083 01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:15.720 saying all the nice stuff if it wasn't true. 2084 01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:18.600 So in Mjf's k. 2085 01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:24.640 I absolutely think he's been one of the great things 2086 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:27.439 about AW in twenty twenty six. And I'm looking forward 2087 01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:31.239 to mjf's return to eight W when he's back, which 2088 01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:35.680 he will be back very soon, I'm sure. And I'm 2089 01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:38.359 grateful that the injuries he's sustained or nothing that would 2090 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.760 keep him out really really long term, because as you know, 2091 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:43.600 there are other times in the sport contrary to this 2092 01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:45.520 where people have injuries and they. 2093 01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:47.000 Can alter careers sometimes. 2094 01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:49.439 So I'm glad he's going to be okay because he's 2095 01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:52.920 a very important wrestler in AW MJF, whereas there we've 2096 01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:55.039 had other great stars that have had injuries that have 2097 01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:59.159 kept them out in some cases years or indefinitely. This 2098 01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:02.359 is nothing that bad, and he was definitely banged up, 2099 01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:04.319 and he had some very hard hitting matches. Of course, 2100 01:55:04.359 --> 01:55:09.159 a classic championship match with Kenny Omega, with Kenny Omega 2101 01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:11.800 winning the world title at AW Beach Break, one of 2102 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:15.039 the greatest episodes of AW Dynamite ever, and I think 2103 01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:17.840 one of the greatest AW shows on TV or pay 2104 01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:22.000 per view period was AW Beach Break and Kenny Omega 2105 01:55:22.079 --> 01:55:25.359 VERSUSMJF was a very special match. But MJFS had a 2106 01:55:25.399 --> 01:55:27.600 lot of hard hitting championship fights this year and when 2107 01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:31.359 you look back, matches like the ones with Mark Brisco 2108 01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:34.920 and Ruche and of course Darby Allen, these are very 2109 01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:39.359 hard hitting fights. So with MJF, I look forward to 2110 01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:41.239 his return. Thank you for asking. 2111 01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:46.319 Thank you. Dominic D'Angelo from Studio one Sports dot Com 2112 01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:50.159 is next to be foed by Vivik Sharma from Sports. 2113 01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:53.920 Keeter Wrestling Dominic. 2114 01:55:55.600 --> 01:55:58.600 Hey, Tony, can you hear me over? I heard great? 2115 01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:01.800 Hey, rock on rock on cool Well, looking forward to 2116 01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:02.920 Redemption this weekend. 2117 01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:05.920 I kind of did want to follow up with Kevin Knight. 2118 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:08.520 I just you know, he's so new to the company, 2119 01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:12.600 relatively new, and you know with the TNT title run, obviously, 2120 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.279 what gave you the confidence to kind of put him 2121 01:56:15.279 --> 01:56:18.159 in this main event position so soon? I do see 2122 01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:20.359 like from an entering town. Obviously it's amazing, but I 2123 01:56:20.439 --> 01:56:22.880 do see him developing and growing as a promo as well. 2124 01:56:22.960 --> 01:56:25.239 But how much confidence you have in and moving forward 2125 01:56:25.279 --> 01:56:26.760 as one of the top stars for AW. 2126 01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:30.399 I have a lot of confidence in Kevin Knight as 2127 01:56:30.439 --> 01:56:33.000 one of the top stars going forward in AW. I 2128 01:56:33.119 --> 01:56:35.640 really believe in the jet and I think he's a 2129 01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:40.560 tremendous athlete, and he absolutely has had a very quick 2130 01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:44.159 rise to become a multiple time World Trios Champion and 2131 01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:49.239 now the TNT champion and potentially within days the AW 2132 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:52.399 World champion. It is a very quick rise, but again, 2133 01:56:52.479 --> 01:56:55.159 it's not unprecedented to have somebody come in at the 2134 01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:58.479 free agent and rise very quickly, as we've seen in 2135 01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:02.760 the case of Tekla. Tekla and Kevin Knight very close 2136 01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:06.399 to each other within I would think about a week 2137 01:57:06.479 --> 01:57:10.600 of each other in fact. And to see Tekla's rise 2138 01:57:10.680 --> 01:57:12.800 to prominence to be a world champion, and see Kevin 2139 01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:15.239 Knight become a multiple time world Trio Champion, the T 2140 01:57:15.359 --> 01:57:18.800 and T Champion, and now potentially the world champion himself 2141 01:57:18.920 --> 01:57:21.920 at AW Redemption this Sunday. It shows that when we 2142 01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:25.039 signed great free agents, they have the potential to come 2143 01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:27.199 here to AW and ride to the very top of 2144 01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:29.439 the card, to be in the main event matches. 2145 01:57:29.359 --> 01:57:31.600 To fight for the world title, and possibly become the 2146 01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:32.880 AW World champion. 2147 01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.359 For all the great women and men free agents considering AW, 2148 01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:39.479 I think these are great examples on AW Redemption, that 2149 01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:41.720 there's a path to prominence here on the big pay 2150 01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:44.920 per views and in top championship fights. If you come 2151 01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:48.640 into AW, that there are great challengers and champions years 2152 01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:50.680 that are willing to fight you, and if you work hard, 2153 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:53.560 you could work yourself into a very prominent position as 2154 01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:56.039 a free agent, even within your second year. In the 2155 01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:58.800 case of Kevin Knight and Tekla, both in these big 2156 01:57:58.880 --> 01:57:59.960 world championship fights. 2157 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:04.760 Thank you, hey, stuff. Do you ever watch a WWE 2158 01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:06.079 and think it used to be better. 2159 01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:08.159 I don't know, josh Sometimes I think it used to 2160 01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:09.119 be a whole lot worse. 2161 01:58:09.399 --> 01:58:12.560 I mean, whether it's WrestleMania main events, old dudes at 2162 01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:15.039 the top, too many titles. 2163 01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:15.760 Or women's wrestling. 2164 01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.760 We're here to answer the big question, is it worse 2165 01:58:19.079 --> 01:58:19.520 or better? 2166 01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:19.840 Now? 2167 01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:24.520 Join me Joshua White and me Stephanie Cheese for Worse. 2168 01:58:24.399 --> 01:58:27.239 Or Better part of the PW Torch Daily Catoline I'm 2169 01:58:27.279 --> 01:58:28.560 dropping on Monday nights. 2170 01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:31.880 Search PW Torch in your podcast apps such as Apple 2171 01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:35.359 Podcasts or Spotify to subscribe for free or get a 2172 01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:39.199 commercial free version with the PW Torch VIP membership. Check 2173 01:58:39.239 --> 01:58:42.680 out pw torch dot com slash go vip for details 2174 01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:44.680 of going vip Worse or Better. 2175 01:58:45.039 --> 01:58:48.199 Finally, something for wrestling fans to do on Monday nights. 2176 01:58:50.840 --> 01:58:54.359 Thank you very much. Dominic Vivik Sharma from Sports Key 2177 01:58:54.439 --> 01:58:57.720 to Wrestling is next to be followed by Sulian Khan 2178 01:58:57.880 --> 01:58:59.000 from Slam Wrestling. 2179 01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:05.079 You're on, Hi, Tony, can you hear me? I hear 2180 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:05.560 you great. 2181 01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:08.039 I hope you're doing well. 2182 01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:10.479 I'm very excited to watch Redemption this weekend. 2183 01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:12.840 Me too. 2184 01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:15.279 I hope you're doing well. I really appreciate that. I 2185 01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:17.680 feel the same way as you. I hope that you're 2186 01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:20.039 doing well, and I'm also very excited to watch AW 2187 01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:21.079 Redemption this weekend. 2188 01:59:21.479 --> 01:59:23.840 So we're on the same page, Tony, I wanted to 2189 01:59:23.920 --> 01:59:26.520 ask you about Hangman page. We have not seen Hangman 2190 01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:30.399 since his sudden return on Collision with all In approaching, 2191 01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:32.159 Can you tell us something about his status? 2192 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:36.119 Well, I think we'll see Hangman again very soon. You know, 2193 01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:38.520 we saw Hangman two weeks ago on Collision. This past 2194 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:41.359 week on Collision, they referenced it during some of the 2195 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:44.560 championship fights and the big stakes on Collision. You know, 2196 01:59:44.680 --> 01:59:46.760 we saw Hangman on the show last week. When's he 2197 01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:50.199 going to be back? And I would expect him to 2198 01:59:50.279 --> 01:59:52.920 be back soon. He had a great interview and really 2199 01:59:52.960 --> 01:59:56.159 set the stakes for his return, which feels imminent to 2200 01:59:56.279 --> 02:00:00.079 the ring that he's going to be chasing championships. He 2201 02:00:00.159 --> 02:00:02.079 is going to be a man of his word that 2202 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:07.399 he said if he didn't regain the championship from MJF 2203 02:00:07.520 --> 02:00:10.199 that Hangman would not challenge for that World championship again. 2204 02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:13.800 And it seems that Hangman is absolutely going to live 2205 02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:15.960 up to his word because he has told me and 2206 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:19.560 has also publicly told all of you he plans to 2207 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:23.399 come back to AW very soon and to be in 2208 02:00:23.560 --> 02:00:26.560 line to challenge for the other championships. He's been a 2209 02:00:26.600 --> 02:00:30.039 world champion, and in fact, Kenny Omega and Hangman Page 2210 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.439 are the only wrestlers in AW ever to. 2211 02:00:32.520 --> 02:00:35.880 Hold the AW World Title, the AW. 2212 02:00:35.720 --> 02:00:39.560 World Tag Team Championship, and the World Trios Championship. Fittingly, 2213 02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:42.880 they actually held the World Tag Team Championship together famously. 2214 02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:48.439 And Hangman has been a multiple time world champion. And 2215 02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:52.399 I believe any title he sets his sights on, he 2216 02:00:52.560 --> 02:00:57.359 has the ability and the talent and the mindset and 2217 02:00:57.680 --> 02:01:01.800 strength mentally and physically to win. And he said that 2218 02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:04.119 he's going to be targeting these championships. So we saw 2219 02:01:04.199 --> 02:01:07.439 Hangman back a week ago on Collision, and then this 2220 02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:11.960 past week we heard it referenced, and I would say 2221 02:01:12.039 --> 02:01:14.359 we should be watching out. I would expect to see 2222 02:01:14.399 --> 02:01:16.760 hang Man back very soon to get back in the 2223 02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:18.640 ring and follow up on what he said, because he 2224 02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:20.000 is a man of his word, and he said he's 2225 02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:22.600 coming back soon to chase these championships. 2226 02:01:22.600 --> 02:01:24.880 So I would say stay tuned. You know, it hasn't 2227 02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:27.119 really been that long, has it, Thanks. 2228 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:29.079 Thank you. 2229 02:01:29.199 --> 02:01:29.560 Vic. 2230 02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:33.279 Julian Khan from Slam Wrestling is next to be followed 2231 02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:37.239 by Michael Morales Torres from Lucha Libre Online. 2232 02:01:38.039 --> 02:01:41.039 Sulian, Yeah, sorry about that on my internet just popped 2233 02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:41.840 up for a second there. 2234 02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:42.439 That's okay. 2235 02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:47.319 Uh So, I just wanted to ask about will Ospray 2236 02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:50.640 and John Moxley and the tag team. Uh the match 2237 02:01:50.720 --> 02:01:54.319 against the Young Bucks this Sunday. It's giving me vibes 2238 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:57.920 of last year when we saw Swerve and will Osprey's 2239 02:01:57.960 --> 02:02:00.840 head against the Young Bucks. What sort of parallels do 2240 02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:03.840 you see between the two situations right now from this 2241 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:06.079 time last year and this match on Sunday. 2242 02:02:07.239 --> 02:02:09.560 Well, the Young Bucks are very different people than they 2243 02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:10.279 were at that time. 2244 02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:13.800 And I would know because I've been somebody that had 2245 02:02:13.880 --> 02:02:16.720 been a victim of what the Umbucks had become a 2246 02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:20.399 few years ago, and particularly last year was really the 2247 02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:27.000 culmination of the abuse of the Yumbucks power, and that 2248 02:02:27.159 --> 02:02:29.239 was the end of their run as the executive vice 2249 02:02:29.279 --> 02:02:32.640 president of aw even though they are very important and 2250 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:34.760 they are still founding fathers of the company, and the 2251 02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:37.880 truth is now more than ever they fit that vibe. 2252 02:02:37.920 --> 02:02:40.279 I think the Young Bucks have really gone back to 2253 02:02:40.359 --> 02:02:43.760 their roots. They're quite possibly. 2254 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:45.199 The greatest tag team I've ever seen. 2255 02:02:45.359 --> 02:02:48.199 I think that they are two of the best people 2256 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:51.479 I've known, and that's what made it so hard to 2257 02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:54.199 be attacked by Matt Nick and beat up by Matt 2258 02:02:54.199 --> 02:02:57.399 and Nick. It's not something I ever would have expected. 2259 02:02:57.479 --> 02:02:59.680 I never really would have thought met Nick were capable 2260 02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:02.560 of heard of me. And now I really believe that 2261 02:03:03.319 --> 02:03:08.000 they are back to They're back to being who they 2262 02:03:08.039 --> 02:03:10.279 were at the very beginning of aw which is they're 2263 02:03:10.319 --> 02:03:11.159 at their very best. 2264 02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:14.560 They're wrestling so hard, they're fantastic people, and. 2265 02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:17.680 They're focusing on the fans and the wrestling in the ring, 2266 02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:20.840 and they're in a very different place than they were 2267 02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:24.239 a year ago. And frankly so as well Offsprey, because 2268 02:03:24.279 --> 02:03:26.439 he's found himself mixed up with the Death Writers. And 2269 02:03:26.520 --> 02:03:30.039 we saw where the Death Writers were at aw All 2270 02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:34.359 in Texas, and they've taken a very different trajectory. 2271 02:03:34.720 --> 02:03:37.920 The Death Writers. It's a very interesting story to follow. 2272 02:03:38.159 --> 02:03:43.439 It's very unique and there's nobody quite like the. 2273 02:03:43.479 --> 02:03:46.199 Death Writers in the world of professional wrestling, and their leader, 2274 02:03:46.359 --> 02:03:50.479 John Moxley is one of the most brutal people yet 2275 02:03:50.600 --> 02:03:54.560 also in my own opinion, somebody that I think is 2276 02:03:54.680 --> 02:04:02.520 incredibly prolific and highly intelligent and has a brilliant mind 2277 02:04:02.680 --> 02:04:07.720 for strategizing professional wrestling and architected his own rise to 2278 02:04:07.800 --> 02:04:11.760 the top numerous times. And he has so many talented 2279 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:14.479 people surrounding him as part of the Death Riders. 2280 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:16.560 And now he has acquired maybe. 2281 02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:20.800 The greatest wrestling prospect, maybe the greatest wrestler to never 2282 02:04:20.920 --> 02:04:25.279 be the world champion, Will Ospray, and he's acquired him 2283 02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:28.319 for the Death Riders at a very interesting time because 2284 02:04:29.079 --> 02:04:31.680 we're going into AW All in London. 2285 02:04:31.760 --> 02:04:34.479 We know will Osprey is going to be challenging for the. 2286 02:04:34.520 --> 02:04:37.720 World title, whether it's the Jack, Kevin Knight or Kenny 2287 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:41.000 Omega as it stands now, and of course there's a 2288 02:04:41.039 --> 02:04:42.279 lot of history between John. 2289 02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:43.319 Moxley and Kenny Omega. 2290 02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.640 That's really one of the very first rivalries in aw 2291 02:04:46.840 --> 02:04:49.199 dating back to the beginning of the company, the original 2292 02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:52.800 Double or Nothing, that's how we ended and John Moxley 2293 02:04:52.880 --> 02:04:54.720 standing on the poker chips at the end of the 2294 02:04:54.800 --> 02:04:58.359 very first aw event with Kenny Omega down, leading to 2295 02:04:58.479 --> 02:05:02.000 their lights out match the very first full year, and 2296 02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:06.880 a rivalry that has continued and changed, and it did 2297 02:05:07.039 --> 02:05:08.439 lead to the end of Kenny. 2298 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:14.920 Omega's When I talk about the Umbucks and how they've changed, 2299 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:16.560 Kenny went through some changes himself. 2300 02:05:16.680 --> 02:05:22.439 And Kenny has really come back to being the kind 2301 02:05:22.479 --> 02:05:25.039 of Kenny and the kind of person that I wanted 2302 02:05:25.079 --> 02:05:28.039 in aw and a person I'm really proud to work with. 2303 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:31.279 And he's still an executive vice president backstage and a 2304 02:05:31.359 --> 02:05:32.359 huge part of the company. 2305 02:05:33.479 --> 02:05:37.800 And you know, it was the John Moxley. 2306 02:05:37.520 --> 02:05:41.600 Kenny Omega rivalry that took the championship from John Moxley 2307 02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.520 in his first reign, started Kenny's first reign, but also 2308 02:05:44.600 --> 02:05:47.640 started Kenny down a very dark path with Don kallis 2309 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:51.399 a path that now Kenny sieves Kevin Knight taking and 2310 02:05:52.680 --> 02:05:54.560 it's a path that led Kenny to success. 2311 02:05:55.079 --> 02:05:57.880 But now to see Kenny be the world champion on 2312 02:05:58.039 --> 02:06:00.000 his own, doing it on his own, of his own meriage, 2313 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:03.399 it's very special, and I know the young Bucks feel 2314 02:06:03.439 --> 02:06:03.920 that way too. 2315 02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:07.880 And there have been times even in the past few weeks, 2316 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:10.039 particularly in the past few weeks, where I know Matt 2317 02:06:10.039 --> 02:06:13.960 and Nick are concerned about what's happening with Kenny Omega 2318 02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:17.039 and will ospray, what is this going to lead to 2319 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:20.439 because nobody knows Kenny Omega better than Matt and Nick, 2320 02:06:21.079 --> 02:06:26.039 and I think Matt and Knicks may still deep down 2321 02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:29.800 hold some grudge against will Ospray for what happened last 2322 02:06:29.880 --> 02:06:32.520 year at aw All in Texas, that incredible tag match 2323 02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:34.960 that led to the end of the Young Buck tenure 2324 02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:37.800 at the Executive Vice Presidents, but also led to their 2325 02:06:37.880 --> 02:06:42.000 own road to redemption, And in some ways, I think 2326 02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:43.880 Matt and Nick know that was the best thing that 2327 02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:45.920 could have happened to them, but it led to a 2328 02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:48.680 real struggle tough times. I know they were in a 2329 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:50.680 hard place for them and their family, trying to make 2330 02:06:50.800 --> 02:06:53.800 ends meet, and I'm very glad everything's worked out. 2331 02:06:54.039 --> 02:06:56.560 Matt and Nick and I are all three of. 2332 02:06:56.640 --> 02:06:59.920 Us Christian people, and we all believe in forgiveness, and 2333 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:02.920 I'd like to think all have forgiven each other for 2334 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:06.720 everything that's gone on. But also I think with Matt 2335 02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:09.239 and Nick, in some ways they probably know that what 2336 02:07:09.399 --> 02:07:14.960 happened with will Ospray and swore of last year at 2337 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:17.960 aw All in Texas, them losing the EVP title in 2338 02:07:18.039 --> 02:07:20.079 some ways was probably the best thing that could have 2339 02:07:20.119 --> 02:07:24.199 happened to them, as wrestlers, and they've gotten back to 2340 02:07:24.319 --> 02:07:26.439 doing what they do, which is some of the greatest 2341 02:07:26.479 --> 02:07:30.399 tag team wrestling ever. And I'm very excited for this 2342 02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:33.199 match because the Young Bucks have said they're focused on 2343 02:07:33.680 --> 02:07:37.600 regaining the Tag Team Championship and going after whoever wins 2344 02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:43.560 the match between Cope and Christian versus Pack and Claudio Castignoli, 2345 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:47.119 two of the very top wrestlers in AW, two men 2346 02:07:47.199 --> 02:07:50.359 have been championed in AW multiple times. 2347 02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:53.079 And two of the leaders of the Death Riders. 2348 02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:57.800 And there are so many exciting, interesting things happening as 2349 02:07:57.840 --> 02:08:01.159 we go into AW Redemption right now, and the Young 2350 02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:03.319 Bucks do have their eyes on the Tag Team Championship, 2351 02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:05.880 but they're also looking very closely at what's happening around 2352 02:08:05.960 --> 02:08:09.000 Kenny Omega. He's going into this big match with Kevin Knight, 2353 02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:13.600 but also if Kenny can survive the Jack Kevin Knight, 2354 02:08:13.640 --> 02:08:16.039 if Kenny can retain the championship in his home country 2355 02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:19.039 the Sunday at AW Redemption, I know that the Young 2356 02:08:19.119 --> 02:08:23.840 Bucks see what could be out there potentially with the 2357 02:08:23.920 --> 02:08:28.079 Death Riders. Of course, the Umbucks have a lot of 2358 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.159 history with John Moxley as well. It goes back many 2359 02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:34.760 many years in AW and some great matches. You mentioned 2360 02:08:34.840 --> 02:08:37.960 Young Bucks versus Well Osprey and Swerve, which was a 2361 02:08:38.079 --> 02:08:41.960 fantastic match at AW All in Texas, And I also 2362 02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:46.319 think that Young Bucks versus John Moxley and Nadie Kingston 2363 02:08:46.359 --> 02:08:48.800 at AW Double or Nothing twenty twenty one was an 2364 02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.159 incredible tag team match on another great wrestling show. So 2365 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:55.600 I'm really looking forward to the inaugural AW Redemption and 2366 02:08:55.920 --> 02:08:58.880 one of the matches I'm really looking forward to in 2367 02:08:59.560 --> 02:09:06.159 tag team team wrestling as the Young Bucks versus John 2368 02:09:06.279 --> 02:09:09.439 Moxley and Will Osprey, who have formed a very interesting team. 2369 02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:13.239 And while they have been teaming not nearly as long 2370 02:09:13.319 --> 02:09:13.960 as Matt. 2371 02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:17.119 Nick, to say the least, Will Osprey and John Moxley 2372 02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:20.039 seem to be a very deadly tag team as the 2373 02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:22.119 Death Rids, and I think this is going to be 2374 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:24.399 an incredible tag team match, and I'm very excited to 2375 02:09:24.479 --> 02:09:27.039 see how this all develops because there's a lot of 2376 02:09:27.119 --> 02:09:32.479 interesting rivalries, friendships, a lot of mistrust, and very interesting 2377 02:09:32.960 --> 02:09:37.119 personalities and things happening in AW right now as we 2378 02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.600 go into AW Redemption this Sunday. 2379 02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:42.520 Thanks for asking, Thank you very much. 2380 02:09:43.600 --> 02:09:47.439 We've got Michael Morales Torres from Lucha Libre Online is 2381 02:09:47.560 --> 02:09:51.720 next to be followed by a writing question from Bill 2382 02:09:51.840 --> 02:09:53.720 Bodkin at the Pop break. 2383 02:09:54.159 --> 02:09:57.680 So, Michael, you're up, Yes, Tony, how are you doing today? 2384 02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.319 I'm very well. How are you welcome man? 2385 02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:04.079 Thank you very much for asking, sir uh So, your 2386 02:10:04.159 --> 02:10:08.039 family has built a unique sports and entertainment portfolio with 2387 02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:13.159 the Jacksonville Jaguars, Fulham and now aw uh The FIFA 2388 02:10:13.279 --> 02:10:16.159 World Cup obviously had a massive impact in the US 2389 02:10:16.239 --> 02:10:20.520 and its culture and elevated what the US calls soccer 2390 02:10:20.920 --> 02:10:24.960 and its profile along the whole country. Full Of itself 2391 02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:28.079 is in a great state as a club obviously, now 2392 02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:31.920 Alabarbeloa joins the team. You guys had massive pieces like 2393 02:10:32.039 --> 02:10:36.039 Kevin Oscar, Bob Josh King, Kenny Dette, among many many 2394 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:37.600 other outstanding players. 2395 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:41.640 I love this. 2396 02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:44.920 Yeah, and aw is as well looking. 2397 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:47.840 To expand its growth in different markets, and so with 2398 02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:52.319 a w are we can we expect more collaboration between 2399 02:10:52.760 --> 02:10:54.319 both brands, both clubs. 2400 02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:57.520 I'm in Fulham and aw and as well. 2401 02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:03.199 How key is AW two Fullham's growth in the US 2402 02:11:03.279 --> 02:11:08.479 and vice versa? How key or important is Fulham's presence 2403 02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:11.359 in the UK for aw's growth and thank. 2404 02:11:11.199 --> 02:11:11.680 You for your time. 2405 02:11:11.720 --> 02:11:11.880 Sir. 2406 02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:17.319 What a fascinating question and you brought up things that 2407 02:11:17.479 --> 02:11:21.039 in seven years of AW media, nobody's brought up, and 2408 02:11:21.119 --> 02:11:26.079 I think that's just tremendous. So first of all, when 2409 02:11:26.119 --> 02:11:29.199 you started listing some of the great Fulham players, you 2410 02:11:29.279 --> 02:11:32.119 got me very excited because if football season is approaching, 2411 02:11:32.119 --> 02:11:35.439 and I love talking about football, I love England and 2412 02:11:36.079 --> 02:11:39.920 I have loved living in London and being a part 2413 02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:45.279 of English football through the incredible full and Football Club, 2414 02:11:45.399 --> 02:11:51.560 London's original club. And my father has built something around 2415 02:11:51.760 --> 02:11:57.119 what is a historic legendary structure at historic legendary place, 2416 02:11:57.239 --> 02:12:00.199 Craven Cottage in London. 2417 02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:00.760 And. 2418 02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:07.079 He has put Fulham Peer on the map. And this 2419 02:12:07.359 --> 02:12:07.680 is a. 2420 02:12:07.880 --> 02:12:12.560 Project my father has believed in for over a decade 2421 02:12:12.760 --> 02:12:16.199 and worked on for many many years to get Fullham Peer, 2422 02:12:16.399 --> 02:12:19.640 which is not just the matchdays, three hundred and sixty 2423 02:12:19.680 --> 02:12:23.359 five days a year. The Peers open and it is 2424 02:12:23.520 --> 02:12:28.840 right on the tyms and it is a really beautiful 2425 02:12:28.880 --> 02:12:32.920 place and I think there are opportunities utilizing the real estate. 2426 02:12:33.439 --> 02:12:36.119 There are so many AW fans throughout England. I think 2427 02:12:36.159 --> 02:12:40.479 there are going to be opportunities for partnerships and activations. Already, 2428 02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:43.680 AW is a sponsor of Fulham, supporting the football. I 2429 02:12:43.800 --> 02:12:46.560 never want the wrestling to affect the football in any 2430 02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:51.079 way because the tradition and the purity of the sport 2431 02:12:51.239 --> 02:12:57.399 of English football throughout the country is so important. 2432 02:12:57.520 --> 02:12:58.359 It's so strong. 2433 02:12:58.520 --> 02:13:01.039 The bond the fans have with the sport is unlike 2434 02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:03.800 anything I've seen anywhere, and to be a part of 2435 02:13:03.840 --> 02:13:06.760 it and experience it, it's one of the great thrills 2436 02:13:06.840 --> 02:13:12.000 of my life. And I do think outside the pitch, 2437 02:13:12.520 --> 02:13:19.880 off the football matches and more looking at the full 2438 02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:21.840 and peer side of it. I think there are opportunities 2439 02:13:21.880 --> 02:13:24.960 for activations that would not affect the football on any way. 2440 02:13:25.119 --> 02:13:28.760 To utilize full and peer, which again not on match days, 2441 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:32.399 is open year round, so the AW fans are always 2442 02:13:32.439 --> 02:13:35.880 welcome there and we're looking to do more activations because 2443 02:13:35.920 --> 02:13:38.760 this is a new development. There's nothing like it in 2444 02:13:38.880 --> 02:13:42.199 London and it's something my dad is believed in to 2445 02:13:42.279 --> 02:13:45.479 build something really special here, to build the best restaurants 2446 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:50.640 and the best pubs and put this great place for 2447 02:13:51.119 --> 02:13:55.279 people to go. And of course it's at its most 2448 02:13:55.399 --> 02:13:58.000 packed and vibrant on a match day. Yet there are 2449 02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:01.319 many packed and vibrant days there year round. 2450 02:14:02.720 --> 02:14:06.960 You know, we have events. People book it for weddings, 2451 02:14:07.840 --> 02:14:09.399 holiday parties. 2452 02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:12.039 And we have the Staft Christmas Party there, but people 2453 02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:15.600 book it for outside events and I think AW could 2454 02:14:15.600 --> 02:14:18.560 be involved with it. There are so many great wrestling 2455 02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:20.479 fans in the UK and there's so many great football 2456 02:14:20.520 --> 02:14:23.039 fans in the UK, and there is some crossover between 2457 02:14:23.079 --> 02:14:25.800 the two, but it's also important to respect them and 2458 02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:29.079 keep them separate from each other while still trying to 2459 02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:33.479 leverage the opportunity. So that's part of AW becoming a sponsor. 2460 02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:38.439 You see the AW logo in the corner at Fulham. 2461 02:14:38.159 --> 02:14:40.359 Matches at craven Cottage year round. 2462 02:14:40.640 --> 02:14:46.279 But also AW sponsors the Fulham women's team and you'll 2463 02:14:46.319 --> 02:14:49.760 see AEW on the women's shirts for the Fulham women's team, 2464 02:14:49.800 --> 02:14:53.159 which I think has been a great collaboration also and 2465 02:14:54.239 --> 02:14:56.199 you can buy those shirts and that's kind of a 2466 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:59.560 neat partnership between Fulham and AW that I like. 2467 02:15:00.279 --> 02:15:03.560 So there are a lot of opportunities for those things. 2468 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:07.600 But also I want Fulham to thrive as a football 2469 02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:09.920 club and do well on the pitch, and you talked 2470 02:15:10.399 --> 02:15:13.680 very eloquently about our new coach. I'm really thrilled about 2471 02:15:13.680 --> 02:15:16.760 Olvarro being here, and I think we do have a 2472 02:15:16.840 --> 02:15:20.039 great group of players and certainly will continue to add 2473 02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:21.119 and develop and build. 2474 02:15:21.720 --> 02:15:25.880 And it is a great opportunity for the. 2475 02:15:27.760 --> 02:15:31.800 Club to collaborate with AW and for AW to collaborate 2476 02:15:31.840 --> 02:15:32.279 with Fulham. 2477 02:15:33.479 --> 02:15:38.640 Benefits both sides, and also for the fans of either 2478 02:15:38.720 --> 02:15:38.960 of them. 2479 02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:41.039 I want them to enjoy the experience and not have 2480 02:15:41.119 --> 02:15:44.880 it interfere with that, but also for the fans of both, 2481 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:49.760 it's a unique thing to embrace and I appreciate you 2482 02:15:49.840 --> 02:15:51.760 bringing it up. Certainly, it's the first time I think 2483 02:15:51.840 --> 02:15:55.600 on this call that I've ever heard obviously Alvarro's name, 2484 02:15:55.680 --> 02:15:59.800 but also Josh and Kenny, Oscar and Kevin and all 2485 02:15:59.840 --> 02:16:01.840 the players you named, So thank you for that too. 2486 02:16:01.880 --> 02:16:02.920 I think those guys are great. 2487 02:16:03.159 --> 02:16:05.960 Thank you, Yes, thank you, Michael. That was wonderful. 2488 02:16:08.279 --> 02:16:10.239 iPhone users, if you're listening to us on the Native 2489 02:16:10.279 --> 02:16:13.920 podcast app on your iPhone, you can unlock our commercial 2490 02:16:14.039 --> 02:16:17.840 free versions of our free shows by searching PW Torch 2491 02:16:18.159 --> 02:16:20.520 in Apple Podcasts. You'll see a charcoal grade logo that 2492 02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:22.960 says PW Torch vip on it. 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Just search pw 2506 02:16:57.200 --> 02:16:58.879 Torch in your Apple podcast app. 2507 02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:04.520 I have a right in here, Tony. After the write in, 2508 02:17:04.639 --> 02:17:07.319 we're going to go to John Alba from the Takedown 2509 02:17:07.399 --> 02:17:12.159 on si UH. But first let's hear from Bill. Have 2510 02:17:12.399 --> 02:17:16.959 you considered doing a Crockett Cup style tournament given the 2511 02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:19.680 sheer amount of top level teams you have in a 2512 02:17:20.079 --> 02:17:24.799 W plus Ring of Honor UH, C, M l L 2513 02:17:25.239 --> 02:17:28.159 and J p W, what do you think. 2514 02:17:28.120 --> 02:17:32.239 Tony Okay can you just so I understand. Can you 2515 02:17:32.360 --> 02:17:33.200 read that one more time? 2516 02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:34.600 I just want to make sure I get on sure 2517 02:17:34.959 --> 02:17:37.000 you know different companies. I want to hear that one 2518 02:17:37.040 --> 02:17:39.000 more time and make sure all the companies. 2519 02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:43.079 He said, yeah, he's he's asking, uh, if you've considered 2520 02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:47.319 doing a Crockett Cup style tournament given the sheer amount 2521 02:17:47.399 --> 02:17:50.760 of top level teams that you have in a w 2522 02:17:51.079 --> 02:17:54.120 and Ring of Honor, the ones and then uh, the 2523 02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:55.600 ones you partner with when C. 2524 02:17:56.079 --> 02:17:58.719 M, l L and n J p W. 2525 02:18:00.159 --> 02:18:02.879 It's so cool that you asked that, because yes, I 2526 02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:05.360 have been thinking a lot about having a big tag 2527 02:18:05.399 --> 02:18:09.319 team tournament with teams throughout the world of wrestling. You 2528 02:18:09.399 --> 02:18:12.159 mentioned we have a lot of great partner promotions with 2529 02:18:12.399 --> 02:18:16.079 AW working with great companies like CML and New Japan 2530 02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:18.079 Pro Wrestling that have great teams of their own. But 2531 02:18:18.159 --> 02:18:20.000 also I think some of the best tag team wrestling 2532 02:18:20.079 --> 02:18:22.360 right now is in Ring of Honor. And when you 2533 02:18:22.399 --> 02:18:25.120 watch the Ring of Honor shows, I think that's something 2534 02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:26.200 that really stands out. 2535 02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:29.040 And people talk about identities. 2536 02:18:28.479 --> 02:18:30.079 Well, I think there's a great identity and the Ring 2537 02:18:30.120 --> 02:18:32.040 of Honor and three things that really stand out. You 2538 02:18:32.159 --> 02:18:37.000 see a lot of that are featured very prominently, probably 2539 02:18:37.200 --> 02:18:39.760 as prominently or more prominently than anywhere in the world 2540 02:18:39.760 --> 02:18:44.319 of professional wrestling, are women's wrestling, pure wrestling, and tag 2541 02:18:44.399 --> 02:18:47.559 team wrestling, and there's a lot of it, and a 2542 02:18:47.600 --> 02:18:49.959 lot of great tag teams were building teams that are 2543 02:18:50.040 --> 02:18:53.079 featured in AW, and some that were building up to 2544 02:18:53.200 --> 02:18:56.680 be featured more in AW, or some that haven't come 2545 02:18:56.760 --> 02:18:58.719 on to the show at all yet. But I think 2546 02:18:58.719 --> 02:19:00.799 there's a lot of great tag teams, and certainly in 2547 02:19:00.879 --> 02:19:03.200 AW we have so many of the greatest tag teams 2548 02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:08.360 of all time right now. So with great teams in AW, 2549 02:19:08.760 --> 02:19:12.360 including what we've got to look forward to this weekend 2550 02:19:12.520 --> 02:19:16.079 with Coping Christian versus the Death Riders Claudio and Pack, 2551 02:19:16.239 --> 02:19:18.879 and having the Death Riders of Mox and Osprey, who 2552 02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:22.079 again I feel, have looked tremendous as a tag team 2553 02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:25.559 in AW in recent weeks wrestling what might be the 2554 02:19:25.600 --> 02:19:28.159 greatest team of all time, the Young Bucks, and knowing 2555 02:19:28.239 --> 02:19:32.600 we have other great teams in AEW, including one of 2556 02:19:32.600 --> 02:19:35.879 the greatest tag teams of all time like FTR, and 2557 02:19:36.040 --> 02:19:38.239 so many great young and upcoming teams that you can 2558 02:19:38.280 --> 02:19:41.600 see on Dynamite and Collision and in ROH plus through 2559 02:19:41.639 --> 02:19:45.520 our partnerships in Mexico CMLL with New Japan Pro Wrestling 2560 02:19:45.840 --> 02:19:48.760 and our other international partners. Yes, I think that's a 2561 02:19:48.840 --> 02:19:52.280 great thought and that's something I have considered and also 2562 02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:55.479 would like to do. Is we continue building up more 2563 02:19:55.600 --> 02:19:58.840 women's tag teams and developing women's tag teams in AAW 2564 02:19:59.040 --> 02:20:01.719 and ROH to try to get that same depth hopefully 2565 02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:02.200 there too. 2566 02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:04.360 And I really enjoyed the. 2567 02:20:04.920 --> 02:20:07.840 Match with the Divine Dominion and the Sisters of Sin, 2568 02:20:08.440 --> 02:20:10.840 and I thought that was a great hardcore flight on 2569 02:20:10.959 --> 02:20:14.200 what was in my own personal opinion and excellent Wednesday 2570 02:20:14.280 --> 02:20:17.840 night Dynamite Go Home show ahead of Redemption last night. 2571 02:20:18.399 --> 02:20:20.399 And I think there are a lot of great tag 2572 02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:23.079 teams women and men, and certainly with the Depths. Yes, 2573 02:20:23.280 --> 02:20:28.000 I mean, we have argently dozens of very good men's 2574 02:20:28.079 --> 02:20:33.360 tag teams right now throughout AW, ROH and our partnerships, 2575 02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:37.159 and I also think there are a growing number of 2576 02:20:37.319 --> 02:20:41.399 women's tag teams, and my goal is to keep building 2577 02:20:41.479 --> 02:20:43.600 that up, and certainly ROH is where we have a 2578 02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:47.319 lot of these tremendous tag teams building, including women and 2579 02:20:47.520 --> 02:20:51.280 a lot of men, veteran tag teams and also young 2580 02:20:51.360 --> 02:20:51.879 tag teams. 2581 02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:52.799 Thanks for asking. 2582 02:20:53.399 --> 02:20:55.239 Yeah, thank you very much, Bill, and I think we've 2583 02:20:55.280 --> 02:20:59.000 got just time now for John Albat. We've had a 2584 02:20:59.120 --> 02:21:02.719 great turnout today. Thank you everyone for joining from John 2585 02:21:02.760 --> 02:21:06.440 Albert from the takedown of on SI is next and 2586 02:21:06.520 --> 02:21:08.399 then we'll probably complete it after that. Tony, were they 2587 02:21:08.600 --> 02:21:09.959 closing thoughts? John? Are you there? 2588 02:21:11.120 --> 02:21:11.319 Yes? 2589 02:21:11.440 --> 02:21:15.239 Thank you for agating my question and I appreciate you guys. Tony, 2590 02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:18.680 great to chat as always. When I heard the Redemption 2591 02:21:19.680 --> 02:21:21.680 name for the pay per view, I was thinking a 2592 02:21:21.719 --> 02:21:26.280 lot about the promo between Kenny and Osprey, which I 2593 02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:29.360 believe was after Dynasty, where they kind of put faith 2594 02:21:29.399 --> 02:21:31.840 in one another, and I was saying to myself, well, man, 2595 02:21:31.920 --> 02:21:35.000 this would make so much sense for a Kenny redemption 2596 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:38.440 story to go down at this pay per view in Canada. 2597 02:21:39.520 --> 02:21:43.920 TSN published that promo that may have been filmed beforehand 2598 02:21:44.000 --> 02:21:46.440 that mentioned that Kenny would be going for the title 2599 02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:49.520 in Canada, but then, as we know, he'd win in 2600 02:21:49.559 --> 02:21:52.879 a few weeks earlier. Was the original intention to run 2601 02:21:52.959 --> 02:21:53.920 the match in Canada? 2602 02:21:54.079 --> 02:21:59.360 And if so, what changed in that equation. Well, it's 2603 02:22:00.120 --> 02:22:04.600 a very fair question you're asking. I do have to 2604 02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:08.000 keep some slide of hand any things. I think we're 2605 02:22:08.120 --> 02:22:13.079 on a really tremendous run, and it's a completely valid 2606 02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:19.920 point you're making, and without directly saying what the order 2607 02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:22.959 has always been or what the plans have been, I 2608 02:22:23.120 --> 02:22:25.719 think that we've made the right moves, and certainly the 2609 02:22:25.760 --> 02:22:28.000 company is in an incredibly strong position and at a 2610 02:22:28.079 --> 02:22:31.760 really important time in the wrestling landscape. I've been very 2611 02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:38.120 transparent that I'm very excited about the impending merger that 2612 02:22:38.200 --> 02:22:42.559 I expect will happen with Warner Brothers and Paramount. I 2613 02:22:42.639 --> 02:22:44.760 think this is going to be a tremendous thing to 2614 02:22:44.840 --> 02:22:47.879 the people who work here overall, and I think it's 2615 02:22:47.920 --> 02:22:51.680 going to create more opportunities for the combined company to 2616 02:22:51.799 --> 02:22:56.920 compete in the streaming landscape. And it takes two tremendous studios, 2617 02:22:57.040 --> 02:23:00.280 and they will continue to operate with the strength of. 2618 02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:04.680 Two studios and have two challenger. 2619 02:23:04.280 --> 02:23:07.920 Brands in streaming that will come together and form a 2620 02:23:08.120 --> 02:23:11.719 top competitor, and that's the important thing. In no way 2621 02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:14.200 we'll just resemble a monopoly, but it will be a 2622 02:23:14.360 --> 02:23:19.120 truly competitive company that has a very good fighting chance. 2623 02:23:19.239 --> 02:23:22.040 With the people under one roof working for David Ellison. 2624 02:23:22.159 --> 02:23:24.600 In my opinion, and I'm excited to go be one 2625 02:23:24.639 --> 02:23:27.879 of those people as I expect well when this thing 2626 02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:31.799 goes through. And it's been a very exciting time for 2627 02:23:31.920 --> 02:23:35.040 AW and to be able to go to our bosses 2628 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:38.040 at such a pivotal time in wrestling, with the AW 2629 02:23:38.200 --> 02:23:43.079 viewership being the highest that's been in years over multiple weeks, 2630 02:23:43.559 --> 02:23:45.920 and have these trends in the big data era. To 2631 02:23:46.000 --> 02:23:50.520 be showing these kinds of numbers and to be such 2632 02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:54.360 a strong competitor in the landscape of television professional wrestling 2633 02:23:54.520 --> 02:23:55.920 is very very important. 2634 02:23:56.000 --> 02:23:58.120 At the same time, the pay per views are a 2635 02:23:58.239 --> 02:24:02.840 very important piece of this equation and we've done very 2636 02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:03.440 very well. 2637 02:24:04.040 --> 02:24:07.799 And since we started on pay per view last year, 2638 02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:10.239 our biggest pay per view numbers had been the recent 2639 02:24:10.360 --> 02:24:12.760 pay per views, with Double or Nothing a couple months 2640 02:24:12.760 --> 02:24:14.840 ago was the biggest one we've had yet on a 2641 02:24:14.920 --> 02:24:18.479 streak of our biggest pay per views, and Forbidden Doors 2642 02:24:18.600 --> 02:24:21.399 significantly outperformed a lot of the events from last year, 2643 02:24:21.440 --> 02:24:24.120 and I think relative to. 2644 02:24:25.639 --> 02:24:29.559 Pass Forbidden Doors will be a very strong performer. And 2645 02:24:30.079 --> 02:24:30.559 then when you. 2646 02:24:30.639 --> 02:24:33.639 Look at having the best Double or Nothing in many 2647 02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:37.239 ways ever and not only when I think was the 2648 02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:40.360 best wrestling show in my own opinion, but also the. 2649 02:24:40.479 --> 02:24:44.559 Highest live gate ever Braid of You for Double or Nothing, and. 2650 02:24:46.600 --> 02:24:49.040 The incredible pay per view numbers are best numbers yet 2651 02:24:49.079 --> 02:24:50.879 on HBO Max and some of our best pay per 2652 02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:54.559 views ever, and all this is happening while we're driving 2653 02:24:54.600 --> 02:24:56.600 our TV viewership, and I think it's been the right 2654 02:24:56.680 --> 02:24:59.559 time to drive TV viewership. I was so proud that 2655 02:24:59.680 --> 02:25:04.000 Each Break was the most watched AWTV show on TBS 2656 02:25:04.239 --> 02:25:07.079 in two years, and two years ago we did not 2657 02:25:07.200 --> 02:25:10.799 have this very important piece that we added last year 2658 02:25:10.879 --> 02:25:14.639 in twenty twenty five with HBO Max and this streaming 2659 02:25:14.799 --> 02:25:18.120 component that's so important for the future of aw while 2660 02:25:18.280 --> 02:25:20.879 TBS and T and T continue to be a lifeblood 2661 02:25:20.920 --> 02:25:24.920 for us, and places in TBS and TNT that have 2662 02:25:25.079 --> 02:25:28.200 been great homes to professional wrestling for the better part 2663 02:25:28.239 --> 02:25:29.879 of fifty years, and. 2664 02:25:31.840 --> 02:25:34.120 I am very proud to continue to. 2665 02:25:35.680 --> 02:25:39.159 Carry those traditions with Wednesdays on TBS and Saturdays on TNT. 2666 02:25:39.879 --> 02:25:44.120 I think that that was incredible that Beach Break with 2667 02:25:44.280 --> 02:25:47.559 Kenny Omega Versus MJF be the most watched AWTV show 2668 02:25:48.319 --> 02:25:51.120 in years, and then to follow it up last week 2669 02:25:51.520 --> 02:25:53.239 and have even higher viewership. 2670 02:25:54.440 --> 02:25:57.079 It's very exciting, and I know that we're going to. 2671 02:25:57.120 --> 02:26:01.719 Have a big summer with Redemption this Sunday and with 2672 02:26:01.879 --> 02:26:05.840 aw all in London, and then to see the quality 2673 02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:07.639 of the TV and the pay per views and know 2674 02:26:07.719 --> 02:26:09.479 the pay per views have been performing really well and 2675 02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:12.559 now the TV is the hottest that's been in years. 2676 02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:14.680 I think that the moves we've made have been the 2677 02:26:14.760 --> 02:26:15.360 right moves. 2678 02:26:15.920 --> 02:26:20.280 So that's that's probably again going back to what I 2679 02:26:20.360 --> 02:26:24.479 said at the beginning, that's a lot of information along 2680 02:26:24.559 --> 02:26:26.200 the lines of what you were looking for, even if 2681 02:26:26.200 --> 02:26:28.040 it's not the exact information you were looking for. 2682 02:26:28.639 --> 02:26:32.760 Thank you, John, Thank you John Tony. We got an 2683 02:26:32.799 --> 02:26:33.639 hour of your time. 2684 02:26:33.719 --> 02:26:33.879 There. 2685 02:26:34.200 --> 02:26:36.079 Any closing thoughts. 2686 02:26:36.959 --> 02:26:37.719 Well, it was great. 2687 02:26:37.840 --> 02:26:40.840 I appreciate you hosting it, Jim and Robin, and I 2688 02:26:40.920 --> 02:26:43.879 really appreciate all of you who came out today to 2689 02:26:43.959 --> 02:26:47.079 ask questions and be a part of this. Hopefully I 2690 02:26:47.159 --> 02:26:50.479 got to answer all the questions. Are almost all the questions, 2691 02:26:50.559 --> 02:26:52.159 and if there's anybody that was here that did not 2692 02:26:52.280 --> 02:26:56.239 get to ask a question, I'll hopefully see you at 2693 02:26:56.360 --> 02:26:58.520 Redemption or at one of the upcoming pay per views. 2694 02:26:59.159 --> 02:27:01.200 I always do these media calls and try to answer 2695 02:27:01.399 --> 02:27:04.079 everything we can in the hour. But also I don't 2696 02:27:04.079 --> 02:27:06.120 really put a time limit on the post pay per 2697 02:27:06.200 --> 02:27:07.760 view media scrums. 2698 02:27:07.799 --> 02:27:09.639 If people come to the pay per view in person, 2699 02:27:09.680 --> 02:27:10.440 I always want to make. 2700 02:27:10.399 --> 02:27:12.920 Sure they get the value out of their trip and 2701 02:27:12.959 --> 02:27:14.760 get to ask me some questions if they if they 2702 02:27:15.200 --> 02:27:17.239 have anything they do want to ask about AW. 2703 02:27:17.920 --> 02:27:19.239 I really appreciate you all. 2704 02:27:19.159 --> 02:27:21.440 Being here, and I'm very much looking forward to AW 2705 02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:26.319 Redemption this Sunday. It's the first ever AW redemption, but 2706 02:27:26.399 --> 02:27:27.600 aw' has been around. 2707 02:27:27.360 --> 02:27:29.639 For many years, and a lot of you on this 2708 02:27:29.799 --> 02:27:31.520 call have been covering AAW. 2709 02:27:31.280 --> 02:27:34.520 Since the very beginning now for over seven years, and 2710 02:27:35.280 --> 02:27:38.719 I very much appreciate it, and hopefully see a lot 2711 02:27:38.799 --> 02:27:41.079 of you at the show, and I hope that all 2712 02:27:41.159 --> 02:27:44.639 of you enjoy the show and look forward to your coverage. 2713 02:27:44.840 --> 02:27:47.000 I appreciate your fair coverage all. 2714 02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:50.719 Of you, and thank you for coming to ask questions 2715 02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:55.399 about the show today and talking about wrestling and continuing 2716 02:27:55.440 --> 02:28:00.000 the conversations. And you know, it's very very important word 2717 02:28:00.000 --> 02:28:02.319 work that you all do, and I appreciate you. Thank 2718 02:28:02.399 --> 02:28:03.799 you for doing this today and. 2719 02:28:05.280 --> 02:28:07.399 Jim, thanks for hosting a great of course. 2720 02:28:08.159 --> 02:28:10.559 Yeah, I'll tell you what to You may have quite 2721 02:28:10.559 --> 02:28:13.440 a scrum on Sunday night because we had quite a 2722 02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:16.840 line up here, great turnout for this press conference that 2723 02:28:16.959 --> 02:28:20.319 you just conducted, and we were not able to get 2724 02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:24.319 to everybody. So to everybody who joined us today, real 2725 02:28:24.479 --> 02:28:27.959 profound thanks. We are now at the end of our time, 2726 02:28:28.040 --> 02:28:30.040 but you know, per custom, we're going to be distributing 2727 02:28:30.079 --> 02:28:33.799 an audio recording of this to all the attendees here 2728 02:28:33.920 --> 02:28:37.440 shortly and also as you know we do. We want 2729 02:28:37.559 --> 02:28:40.600 to give you the most our deepest appreciation and thanks 2730 02:28:40.639 --> 02:28:45.120 for all you do for AW and professional wrestling. You're 2731 02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:47.920 all part of the industry and we're very grateful and 2732 02:28:48.000 --> 02:28:51.799 we look forward to seeing you in Montreal on Sunday night. 2733 02:28:52.280 --> 02:28:53.120 Thank you very much. 2734 02:28:55.520 --> 02:28:58.680 Your time is valuable. Go vip and listen to our 2735 02:28:58.719 --> 02:29:02.879 show's commercial free a nice streamline listening experience. 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