Speaker 1: Welcome back, folks, and joining us now is Tony Ardeban
Speaker 1: of Wisewolf Gold and he has currently set up David
Speaker 1: Knight dot Gold, which you'll let him know that you're
Speaker 1: coming through us. Tony. It's been an amazing time for gold,
Speaker 1: hasn't it? And it's still going. It's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Every single week when I come back, there's a new
Speaker 2: there's a new all time high. And last week I said,
Speaker 2: you know, the dollar has lost forty percent of its
Speaker 2: purchasing power against gold. We'll make that forty five percent.
Speaker 2: We've got even more new all time highs gold. I
Speaker 2: didn't you know, I didn't foresee this this price range
Speaker 2: here in the last six months. I definitely all past
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred, but we broke thirty nine hundred temporarily
Speaker 2: this last couple of days, last forty eight hours, I believe,
Speaker 2: so really unpressd in the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting close to the four thousand number of
Speaker 1: the people talking about and of course it's the uncertainty,
Speaker 1: the concern you whether you're talking about tariffs or other
Speaker 1: economic policy, and people concerned about anytime you see a
Speaker 1: lot of bad news about the economy or people are
Speaker 1: concerned about war. This is the people turned to gold
Speaker 1: and those types of times. So yesterday you had futures
Speaker 1: drop and gold jumps as the government shutdown begins. So
Speaker 1: bad news really shoots gold up like a fire hose.
Speaker 1: And of course along with bad news, I think about
Speaker 1: this AI bubble that I think is long overdue to pop,
Speaker 1: and I imagine when that bubble pops, it's gonna really
Speaker 1: shoot gold up sky high. What do you think what
Speaker 1: happened with I think sebust.
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think that a lot of
Speaker 2: institutional funds are flowing into gold right now because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, gold is money. Gold is
Speaker 2: a monetary metals. So is silver. But there's a lot
Speaker 2: of different factors that we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: the price of silver too. That's something I think you
Speaker 2: knew what we need to pay attention to. But gold
Speaker 2: is money and it houses that value. And you're talking
Speaker 2: about fear, uncertainty, and doubt, the FUD, and that comes up,
Speaker 2: people run to gold. That's historically always been on.
Speaker 1: The two things that have helped the helped gold have
Speaker 1: been the FED and the FUD.
Speaker 2: To the Fed and the FUD, that's right, and the
Speaker 2: devaluation of that. It's interesting. There was another article that
Speaker 2: floated around last week after I was on with you
Speaker 2: and the price of goal hitting. It's alt I think
Speaker 2: over thirty eight one hundred dollars an ounce. It caused
Speaker 2: the gold reserves of the United States to pass one
Speaker 2: trillion in value if you believe that it's there the
Speaker 2: over eight thousand tons. Supposely there's over four thousand tons that.
Speaker 2: Remember the Fort Knox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I talked about it. I said, well, maybe
Speaker 1: that was what the Fort Knox thinks, saying, well, audit
Speaker 1: the gold there. Maybe that was what it was about.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see if it's there, and if it's there,
Speaker 1: we'll market the market. Maybe we'll do it even if
Speaker 1: it's not there.
Speaker 2: We passed the one trillion dollar at least valuation and
Speaker 2: mark for those over eight thousand tons that we supposedly have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as the United States. But this is only going to continue. David.
Speaker 2: This isn't a bubble. Gold's not a bubble. This isn't
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you would consider this a
Speaker 2: bull market because none of the factors that have changed
Speaker 2: gold's price and us really changing it now, like the
Speaker 2: interest rates. When they raised interest rates, the price of
Speaker 2: gold went up. When they cut interest rates, the price
Speaker 2: of gold goes up. It continues to go up because
Speaker 2: of the monetary weakness in the dollar itself in fie
Speaker 2: O currency.
Speaker 1: One of the things that came out of that article
Speaker 1: was one of the things you consonly said, well, the
Speaker 1: FED doesn't own any gold, which is true in the
Speaker 1: United States. It's not the central bank that owns the gold.
Speaker 1: It's actually the Treasury that has the gold. And so
Speaker 1: they're looking at this as being an accounting trick that
Speaker 1: they could do if they just they've got it on
Speaker 1: their books at some historically low point. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they've got it on there it's thirty five dollars
Speaker 1: or what they've got it on there. For it was
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars for years and years and years after
Speaker 1: Nixon made it illegal. And so anyway, the you know,
Speaker 1: when they do that type of thing, it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how that would affect gold. In that article,
Speaker 1: they thought that it would make gold go up, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand how that mechanism would work, except
Speaker 1: for the fact that if you highly publicize the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, hey, here's the new We found a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars here because we bought gold and we held
Speaker 1: it for a long time. I would imagine that would
Speaker 1: be a big pr factor for people pushing gold as
Speaker 1: you know, you want to do the same thing that
Speaker 1: the Treasury did. You know, just hold gold for a
Speaker 1: long period of time and you'll see the value go
Speaker 1: up as the dollar goes down. The value of gold
Speaker 1: isn't changing. The value of the dollar is changing. But
Speaker 1: I guess that would be the mechanism by which it
Speaker 1: would help gold.
Speaker 2: I think this metric goes back to two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, the GFC, the Great Actial Crisis
Speaker 2: or the Great Recession, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: when they had tarp funds and the bailouts, and that
Speaker 2: was the first real quantitative easing experiment that we did,
Speaker 2: the first real one that was out in the open,
Speaker 2: and then just massive and after at that time, David,
Speaker 2: if you look at the metrics, zero percent gold ordering
Speaker 2: by central banks at that time, almost no central banks
Speaker 2: around the world were buying gold. Now it's off the charts.
Speaker 2: So if you throw in the term the Great Reset,
Speaker 2: this is the end of whatever. Nineteen seventy one started
Speaker 2: the going off the gold standard of the FIAT experiment.
Speaker 2: In my opinion and what I read, I think that
Speaker 2: we are reaching this point where they're going to splip
Speaker 2: the script. And that's why a lot it's not just
Speaker 2: the United States that hasn't revalued their ounces of gold
Speaker 2: from thirty five dollars an ounce. There's lots of countries
Speaker 2: around the world. They're never over forty dollars an ounce.
Speaker 2: They keep it there on the books that way, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of that's been a mystery. Why don't revalue
Speaker 2: Why not show it on your books that way? I
Speaker 2: think it's because this is an accumulation phase. I think
Speaker 2: this is accumulation phase, not only for gold, but for
Speaker 2: silver as well. And I can promise you right now.
Speaker 2: But the being in a business with in two different
Speaker 2: states and being a national dealer. I'm a small dealer,
Speaker 2: but I'm national. These the purchases from people are not
Speaker 2: happening in the way they were two years ago. But
Speaker 2: we are seeing these massive price increases. So a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff's flowing to wholesalers and then it's flowing
Speaker 2: up to central banks or even with silver, it's flowing
Speaker 2: through from dealers, from the public. The public's trading in
Speaker 2: their silver and it's going to institutions. I'm seeing it.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just buying massive amounts of silver. It's
Speaker 2: hard to keep up with. My job has gotten really
Speaker 2: strange because even my crew was saying yesterday they're like,
Speaker 2: we have to recheck our math because they're not used
Speaker 2: to these numbers. They're like, that can't be right. Announce
Speaker 2: of what you know. They'll look at the price of
Speaker 2: a silver half dollar or a dime or something and say, well,
Speaker 2: that didn't can't be right. They'll run the math again,
Speaker 2: or they'll buy a ring and not they'll run the
Speaker 2: math again because it's not We stayed in this kind
Speaker 2: of stable price range. If you recall, I mean we
Speaker 2: were talking in two thousand and twenty two, David about
Speaker 2: the Silicon Valley Bank failure, FTX, all that stuff, and
Speaker 2: the price of goal is about sixteen hundred dollars an ounce.
Speaker 2: So now we're nearing four thousand dollars an ounce, and
Speaker 2: a lot of the things are beginning to crack, like
Speaker 2: the Goldman sacks Intel JP Morgan. Until that I was
Speaker 2: reading this morning, they were saying that if only one
Speaker 2: percent of private US treasury holders went into gold, the
Speaker 2: price would easily go to five thousand. So it's just
Speaker 2: one percent of those who privately hold treasuries. And the
Speaker 2: reason you hold treasuries is for the stability, you know,
Speaker 2: you especially when interest rates are a little bit higher,
Speaker 2: So you hold it for the stability. And when that
Speaker 2: stability wanes, when you can't even remotely see the same
Speaker 2: value of a treasury, you know, maybe six months or
Speaker 2: a year from that date, then you look for something else.
Speaker 2: Gold it fills that role. Yeah, and I think there
Speaker 2: will be a move from treasuries. A matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the Chinese, they used to be the greatest buyer of
Speaker 2: US treasuries. Now they're the greatest seller. So a lot
Speaker 2: of these metrics are being inverted. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why we're seeing these prices. I think just beginning by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't a lot of I think regular
Speaker 2: people they've lived through, you know, different busts and booms
Speaker 2: for metals. And we go back to the twenty and
Speaker 2: eleven time frame where gold almost hit two thousand dollars
Speaker 2: an ounce, and then Ben Bernanki came out and quelled
Speaker 2: the markets and said there's no more QI and I'm
Speaker 2: going to do quantitative tightening and all the rest, and
Speaker 2: that really set prices back on metals. But we're not
Speaker 2: going to see those days again. I don't think that
Speaker 2: there's going to be this big fall in pricing based
Speaker 2: off of market stability because, as you mentioned, with the
Speaker 2: government shutdowns, with the butt, we're in bubbles everywhere. I mean,
Speaker 2: AI is revolutionary, but it's a bubble. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you need silver to run AI. There's two different articles
Speaker 2: on the zero hedge right now about silver seeing price
Speaker 2: increases because of the AIM. So also actors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't understand the calculation of anybody
Speaker 1: that will be buying TA bills right now because when
Speaker 1: you look at it, even though the interest rates I
Speaker 1: think are pretty high, six or seven percent, you know,
Speaker 1: look at inflation. That's not when they're telling you what
Speaker 1: the inflation is, that's not the real number. If you
Speaker 1: go to shadow facts, you will see that the inflation
Speaker 1: number is multiples of that, maybe two or three times
Speaker 1: what they're actually telling you the official rate is. So
Speaker 1: even if you buy, you get your money into CDs
Speaker 1: or get into treasury bills or something like that it's
Speaker 1: it's not even going to keep up with inflation. I
Speaker 1: remember back the early eighties and my dad was talking
Speaker 1: to my brother in law. They were talking about how
Speaker 1: they were transferring a lot of money into two CDs
Speaker 1: because interest rates relatively high at that time, and that
Speaker 1: was a real interest rate, you know, compared to inflation
Speaker 1: at the time. And I said, yeah, I'm putting all
Speaker 1: my money in CDs as well. When I held up
Speaker 1: the audio CDs. That's what I invested in was just
Speaker 1: consumers spending, but they were patting their money into a
Speaker 1: lot of retires are putting their money into CDs and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it just you know, it's just going to lose
Speaker 1: value because of the inflation, because of what is happening.
Speaker 2: I have. I have some customers. Lady recently she had
Speaker 2: money in CDs, and this I think probably up until recently,
Speaker 2: she was probably a normal person who didn't look at
Speaker 2: the monetary system. And then with inflation. You know, if
Speaker 2: you're close to the central bank, if you're when the
Speaker 2: outflows happen and they cut raids so they start pumping
Speaker 2: funds into the economy, you do really well because you
Speaker 2: can go out and buy those consumer goods or you
Speaker 2: can buy commodities or anything that haven't been repriced yet.
Speaker 2: But the average person, that's when they get hurt, you know,
Speaker 2: because the money flows down, the prices increase, and they
Speaker 2: have the same amount of purchasing power, the same amount
Speaker 2: of earning power, and then everything went up, and that's
Speaker 2: inflation in a nutshell. And the increase in the money
Speaker 2: supply increases pricing. And so a lot of people, especially
Speaker 2: after twenty twenty, that wouldn't have otherwise, wouldn't have even
Speaker 2: asked these questions that had just been normal. They're coming
Speaker 2: in in buying and I think relatively cheap metal prices
Speaker 2: compared to what the damage has actually been done to
Speaker 2: the dollar, I think, and this is taking a long
Speaker 2: time to unravel. David Is, We've been talking, We talk
Speaker 2: about this every week, but the massive amount of damage
Speaker 2: is only going to continue to drive these prices up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an earthquake. You know, got a lot
Speaker 1: of fault lines in here, and I hope you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of small earthquakes along the way. One
Speaker 1: giant one, which could be what happens when in Nvidia
Speaker 1: and the AI bubble burst. But then the other part
Speaker 1: of this which makes this unique at this point in time,
Speaker 1: what is happening with digital currency and things like that.
Speaker 1: There's an article on Free Thought Project. The state just
Speaker 1: robbed an entire crypto exchange and broad Daylight Canada of
Speaker 1: the Royal Canadian Mounted Police just targeted the largest crypto
Speaker 1: seizure in Canada's history, fifty six million dollars. They shut
Speaker 1: down trade Ogre, a privacy focused exchange and the process.
Speaker 1: And of course we saw Canada do this with the
Speaker 1: truckers and the protesters of the COVID lockdown. But now
Speaker 1: they're doing it just because they can, I guess, and
Speaker 1: we see it at the same time. Was it eighty
Speaker 1: six million accounts shut in Vietnam because people didn't add
Speaker 1: their biometric data to the account. Thailand is doing the
Speaker 1: same thing as well. They've already shut down over three
Speaker 1: million accounts and they said it's going to continue to increase.
Speaker 1: So everybody is moving to digital ID and digital cash.
Speaker 1: And to me, that is that is gold's biggest advantage.
Speaker 1: To me, that's the best game in town gold and
Speaker 1: silver is that you've got some physical money that is
Speaker 1: out of their digital system.
Speaker 2: One percent, and by the way I love bitcoin. I
Speaker 2: just rebranded my Texas location wise Wolf gold Silver Bitcoin.
Speaker 2: Love love that love for technology, but it exists in
Speaker 2: the third dimension. You can trade it and be outside
Speaker 2: of the system, and bitcoin can't do that. Bitcoin you
Speaker 2: can go from wallet to wallet and you never have
Speaker 2: to touch in exchange, and that's great, but you're still on.
Speaker 2: That's what the blockchain is. It's a ledger forever. But
Speaker 2: if I trade a gold coin with David Knight for
Speaker 2: advertising or something, who sees that it's just you and I.
Speaker 2: That's between you and I. That's money that we exchange.
Speaker 2: We recognize value and whatever we pass between us, and
Speaker 2: that's it. And that's the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: You know, trade Ogre was a great platform. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that that happened. I've all trade over for a
Speaker 2: long time. They just had an ok YC. You could
Speaker 2: go on there and take your bitcoin, turn it into ripple,
Speaker 2: you could turn it into ethereum, you could turn in
Speaker 2: you know, if you got a pirate chain, you take
Speaker 2: pirate chain, you could cash it out. But they didn't
Speaker 2: ever deal in with tradeover. They never dealt with fiat,
Speaker 2: so there was no banks. It was just crypto exchange,
Speaker 2: and there was, but there was no KYC from what
Speaker 2: I understand, and I haven't seen in a few years.
Speaker 1: Your customer where they id you very carefully report to
Speaker 1: the government about that. Yeah, so well, which.
Speaker 2: Is a huge I mean the amount. This is why
Speaker 2: in the space of crypto there is fewer and fewer
Speaker 2: smaller operators. Just like I was looking and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe I should take stable coin. So I asked my
Speaker 2: compliance officer. He's like, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's ten thousand dollars just to start
Speaker 2: and we have to get a license. And I go
Speaker 2: just to deal in a coin that's supposed to be stable,
Speaker 2: and I go, this, what's the you know, which is
Speaker 2: a completely open source everything. It's not like a privacy coin. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's not worth it. So you're exactly right. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's there's a digital revolution going on. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was on a show yesterday asked me about it.
Speaker 2: Is it's going to be complete surveillance. I said, well,
Speaker 2: if we allow it. Yeah, I think the fight's still
Speaker 2: on for that. I mean I don't the battle isn't
Speaker 2: over yet.
Speaker 1: But see what happens in the UK. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know they're up against but of course the Swiss, of
Speaker 1: all places, you know, they always valued privacy. They just
Speaker 1: voted in a referendum, the citizens voted to have a
Speaker 1: digital ID. Now they've promised them that it won't be
Speaker 1: mandatory for now right, and we know exactly how that's
Speaker 1: going to work. But getting back to what we were
Speaker 1: just talking about, in terms of the visibility on the blockchain,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that bothers me. It's not only that
Speaker 1: you're visible to government, because the government can find out
Speaker 1: with all the Know your Customer rules and all the
Speaker 1: rest of the stuff. There's a lot of visibility with
Speaker 1: anything like that, but with the crypto that is not hidden.
Speaker 1: And in this Freethought Project article they talk a lot
Speaker 1: about Zano, which is a privacy coin. We have some
Speaker 1: anonymity of these transactions. However, on bitcoin you are visible
Speaker 1: to everybody, and so there's private crooks out there, not
Speaker 1: just the government crooks who can steal from you, and
Speaker 1: we have seen that in the past. I was surprised
Speaker 1: of some billionaire who had nearly a million dollars is
Speaker 1: nine hundred and some thousand dollars stolen from him. He
Speaker 1: didn't even know it, and some guy contacted them and
Speaker 1: figured out that it was him, and he was looking
Speaker 1: at large transactions that happened and here's this wail like
Speaker 1: transaction and he works out who this guy is. So
Speaker 1: the thief saw the transactions, saw the amounts of money
Speaker 1: that were there, and stole it from him. And then
Speaker 1: another person was able to look at this and figure
Speaker 1: out who it was that had that account and contacted him,
Speaker 1: and the guy says, you're right, they stole a million
Speaker 1: dollars from me. So you know, that's always been a
Speaker 1: concern to me. When I look at that. It's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to be a target because I
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of money putting into it by
Speaker 1: a long shot. But it could happen to anybody.
Speaker 2: Oh of course it can. And that's bitcoin people mistake
Speaker 2: that for you know. I remember talking to DHS agents
Speaker 2: the camp by my shot back in twenty nineteen or so.
Speaker 2: They're like, it's money laundering and illegal activity. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: that's a really dumb thing to do. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: right there on the blockchain. I mean, I know, I
Speaker 2: always looked at bitcoin as this is like an open
Speaker 2: source digital money or a store of value. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: necessarily consider it private. You're supposed to be able to
Speaker 2: I mean with I mean, technically you could keep your
Speaker 2: wallet private forever, as long as you know your your key.
Speaker 2: That's why so many millions of bitcoins are lost because
Speaker 2: you can't get into those wallets because of the system designed.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily private. I mean, the ultimate privacy coin
Speaker 2: is a one ounce silver round. That's the ultimate privacy coin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or a ten thounce gold piece, it's ultimate ultimate privacy.
Speaker 2: It's just between you and whoever you're trading with, and
Speaker 2: that stores that value for you forever. And you can
Speaker 2: still with if you know a good local shop or
Speaker 2: if you're listening to me, you can always deal with
Speaker 2: me or send it to me. But you know, gold
Speaker 2: and silver are very liquid, so you could if you
Speaker 2: had if you kept your savings in gold or silver
Speaker 2: and you cashed out the local shop, that's between you
Speaker 2: and cash usually, I mean still we still have cash.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things on the horizon that are
Speaker 2: going to be more punitive, and you know, they're going
Speaker 2: to be looking into transactions and all that stuff, and
Speaker 2: I'll have to keep up with it. For right now
Speaker 2: you can trade in and out of gold and silver
Speaker 2: and you don't even need a bank. Yeah, that's right
Speaker 2: for most things.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's happening in Thailand, and people are panicking.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get cash there because they can see
Speaker 1: the handwriting on the wall. You know, in Vietnam, they
Speaker 1: just it just all happened, all at once. Eighty six
Speaker 1: million accounts gone. But you know, three million accounts gone,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big thing, and they're boasting that that's
Speaker 1: just the beginning of it. So yeah, when you look
Speaker 1: at these things, crypto's not a real coin, and you
Speaker 1: know that they always will put bitcoin out there. They
Speaker 1: will make it like a gold coin, like a physical
Speaker 1: gold coin with a bitcoin symbol on it, but it's
Speaker 1: not a coin, and it's not encrypted. The transaction will
Speaker 1: have some encryption on it to process that, but the
Speaker 1: ownership of the blockchain is not encrypted. It's all public
Speaker 1: that is out there. So and of course the stable
Speaker 1: coins are not stable. If they are tied to a
Speaker 1: fiat currency, they should call them a fiat coin or
Speaker 1: something like that. But anyway, it's gold. They're looking at
Speaker 1: six percent higher by the second quarter. That's Goldman Sachs.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very conservative estimate. I think, what
Speaker 1: do you think.
Speaker 2: I think it's conservative too. They haven't kept up. A
Speaker 2: lot of these analysts haven't kept pace with these all
Speaker 2: time highs. If they were, they'd be predicting the all
Speaker 2: time highs. They never actually do they get they get close,
Speaker 2: but they're a conservative and they're they're based off of
Speaker 2: I think there's an ignorance in the analysts that look
Speaker 2: at all these the financial outcomes. I think there's an
Speaker 2: ignorance there about FIA currency, and there's an ignorance about geopolitics,
Speaker 2: and those two things, the geopolitics that are happening right now,
Speaker 2: the shifts in power, the loss of a dollar dominance,
Speaker 2: all that should be factored in. It's not because they're
Speaker 2: institutional lines are they come to the establishment and there's
Speaker 2: just this normalcy bias. So I think those are those
Speaker 2: are conservative figures. I think. Fourth, I mean, we just
Speaker 2: crossed thirty nine hundred dollars an ounce. Do you think
Speaker 2: that four thousand dollars an ounce gold? You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's way out there in the future. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Just one little push.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're saying second quarter the next year. And look
Speaker 1: at how much it's gone up in just last couple
Speaker 1: of years. A couple of weeks. It really got right
Speaker 1: really close to thirty nine hundred, isn't it. It's high
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty eight eighty something, I think, or something.
Speaker 2: It crossed over I think it. I mean it crossed
Speaker 2: in the thirty nine hundred temporary I could want one
Speaker 2: trade like it was. It's real close. So we were
Speaker 2: in that territory. But we're right there, and I don't
Speaker 2: think that this is a this is a fantasy or
Speaker 2: some far off thing. As a matter of fact, you know,
Speaker 2: silber is all time high. It's going to be broken soon.
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars and fifty cents an ounce mean we're right there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know, within let's see what spot price is.
Speaker 2: The Last time I did this, the spot price a
Speaker 2: website yelled at me. Remember when I was on when
Speaker 2: the computer started telling me that I can't go to
Speaker 2: this website. Yes, so it's just under it's it's forty
Speaker 2: six and a half right now, and there might be
Speaker 2: some profit taking or something, but we're right there on
Speaker 2: the cusp of breaking another all time high for silver,
Speaker 2: but that's been forty five years in the making.
Speaker 1: Though, Wow wow, trump Burger says, Tony, tell us about
Speaker 1: your perspective on the gold of silver ratio.
Speaker 2: It's a scam if or at least it's it's a phantom.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you would put that. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's an aberration. It's let's put it that way. Historically,
Speaker 2: it's been ten to twenty to one, and that's the
Speaker 2: way it's always been in the United States was founded
Speaker 2: with a sixteen to one, sixteen ounces of silver to
Speaker 2: make one ounce of gold in the ratio, and that
Speaker 2: stayed that way until nineteen thirty three when Franklin Roosevelt
Speaker 2: did the big financial heightst to have your goal turned
Speaker 2: in so they could give it to the Bank of
Speaker 2: International Settlements, then raised the price.
Speaker 1: Did he do that to silver or was it just gold?
Speaker 1: Because I never hear anybody talking about silver. Did he
Speaker 1: not do that to silver as well?
Speaker 2: He didn't do that to silver. They reset the gold price.
Speaker 2: It was twenty dollars and I think twenty fifty an ounce,
Speaker 2: I believe at the time when he took it over
Speaker 2: and then had the gold turned in. As soon as
Speaker 2: they turned it in him and Harry Hopkins raised which
Speaker 2: is the banker's agent who lived with him in the
Speaker 2: White House. They raised the price to thirty five dollars
Speaker 2: an ounce. But by that time you could known gold.
Speaker 2: It was crinically illegal. They never really did anything with
Speaker 2: the price of silver, but it started to change, you know,
Speaker 2: over time. Especially they made the last silver dollar, David
Speaker 2: was in nineteen thirty five, and that was the peace dollar.
Speaker 2: You don't actually see very many of the thirty fives.
Speaker 2: You see a lot of the nineteen twenties era peace dollars.
Speaker 2: Those were made in nineteen twenty one memorate the end
Speaker 2: of World War One. But you know, that was the
Speaker 2: last silver dollar that the United States ever ran. And
Speaker 2: of course John F. Kennedy had that famous executive order
Speaker 2: trying to reset silver as a monetary medal and run
Speaker 2: it directly through it as I can treasury notes, and
Speaker 2: you can still see those silver certificates that we're running
Speaker 2: during that era. But no, we just everything got really
Speaker 2: skewed because of markets and paper and all the rest
Speaker 2: of that. And I think the true value of silver
Speaker 2: started to come through in the late nineteen seventies with
Speaker 2: the Hunt family and the gold silver ratio. I mean,
Speaker 2: if I could run, actually have a a desk. But
Speaker 2: it was like eight hundred dollars an ounce, you know,
Speaker 2: back in nineteen seventy nine, and of seventy nine it
Speaker 2: was eight hundred. I'd say eight point fifty and divide
Speaker 2: that by fifty two, so they're sixty, right. So that
Speaker 2: was so that's why they put that down. Okay, there
Speaker 2: was a reset and that was starting to show the
Speaker 2: weakness and the dollar. So the Hunt family, you know,
Speaker 2: they drove that price of silver up to fifty two
Speaker 2: dollars and fifty cents an ounce, and everything after that
Speaker 2: got put down. They raised interest rates to the teens
Speaker 2: and drove people back into the markets, and that's where
Speaker 2: you had like the culture of Wall Street and Gordon
Speaker 2: Gecko and all that stuff during the Reaganomics, Art Laugher
Speaker 2: and the trickle down and all that stuff, and it
Speaker 2: really just it quelled it for a while. But now
Speaker 2: we're staying and I think all of this is getting
Speaker 2: out of out of their control at this point. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've always suppressed the of gold. Stewart Angler wrote the
Speaker 2: book on that called rigged, and I've had him on
Speaker 2: my show. He actually runs like a foundation to expose
Speaker 2: this and the price of gold being suppressed by central
Speaker 2: by the central Bank, by the federal reserve in governments,
Speaker 2: and I just think it's out of their control now.
Speaker 2: So the gold silver ratio, that's a long way to
Speaker 2: explain it. The gold silver ratio is supposed to be
Speaker 2: somewhere around twenty to one and not eighty one time.
Speaker 2: I think it was eighty eight last time I was on.
Speaker 2: But that's something that's also I've been watching and it's dropping.
Speaker 2: So there's you know, it takes less and less silver
Speaker 2: to make an ounce of gold, and that's starting to
Speaker 2: catch out gold. Correct. Yeah, it was like eighty one.
Speaker 2: So at one time, the first quarter of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: I tracked it once it was one hundred and twenty five,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five ounces of silver to make
Speaker 2: one ounce of gold. I'm like, this is insane. That
Speaker 2: doesn't that's not even remotely true or possible like reality.
Speaker 2: But when the when the Russian government got into putting
Speaker 2: silver on as chege it reserve asset, and then you
Speaker 2: add in that and you add in the AI boom
Speaker 2: and all the rest of that in the need for
Speaker 2: silver or the military industrial complex. I think there's a
Speaker 2: whole host of reasons pushing silver, and we're going to
Speaker 2: see an all time high, Yeah, a new all time
Speaker 2: high again pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Steve says, you need silver for bombs also, and I
Speaker 1: just stay I so it's a lot of bad stuff.
Speaker 1: You also needed for health sometimes, I guess. But Nica
Speaker 1: Storm had a comment like, you're talking about how they're
Speaker 1: pushing everybody into the stock marketing and everything. He so
Speaker 1: devaluating the dollar forces people to invest in order to
Speaker 1: keep up with inflation and to feed the market, and
Speaker 1: I think that's true even of housing market as well,
Speaker 1: because that was I remember when inflation was going so big.
Speaker 1: At that point in time, we didn't have the the
Speaker 1: artificially inflated cost of building because of regulation and things
Speaker 1: like that, so you could still pull it together and
Speaker 1: you could see that, you know, and afford to buy
Speaker 1: a house, but you could see that the price of
Speaker 1: real estate was going up very, very rapidly because it
Speaker 1: was the dollar that was falling at the time. So
Speaker 1: you know, they forced people into real estate. They force
Speaker 1: people in the stock market. With the devaluation of the dollar,
Speaker 1: and of course that allows them to pay back the
Speaker 1: money that the government has borrowed with more easily called
Speaker 1: monetizing the debt. So there's a lot of reasons that
Speaker 1: they destroy the value of the dollar for their own
Speaker 1: good and for their own personal interests that are there
Speaker 1: so nice. The Storm also says with an IRA or
Speaker 1: four to one, you get taxed on your your gains
Speaker 1: and not so with metal.
Speaker 2: Speak to that, well, if you've got especially if you've
Speaker 2: got a tax shelter of gold and silver, irony are
Speaker 2: always a good thing to have. First you get the
Speaker 2: deduction of putting the IRA deposits in and then you
Speaker 2: get to house the value with metal as long as
Speaker 2: you leave it in there and wait for you have
Speaker 2: to go around the compliance and all the stuff of
Speaker 2: maturity of it. But those are your metals, and we
Speaker 2: do those in gold and silver iras, and I think
Speaker 2: they're a great way to save. And plus they're not
Speaker 2: in the banking system, they're not tied to corporations that
Speaker 2: are tied to the FDIC or anything like that. It's
Speaker 2: just you know, you have to keep it in a
Speaker 2: in a third party vault. But those aren't banks those
Speaker 2: are They do what they do, that's only the only thing.
Speaker 2: The only function they have is housing gold and silver
Speaker 2: and keeping up compliance with IRA. So that's a good
Speaker 2: way to go.
Speaker 1: So we take it out of one of those storage places.
Speaker 1: I know, you work with a new direction. I think
Speaker 1: when you take it out, do they even if they
Speaker 1: ship you the physical gold and silver that's there, do
Speaker 1: they still report that I'm assuming to the government has
Speaker 1: withdrawal of an IRA and do they evaluate that as
Speaker 1: at the current value? Where do we get to evaluate
Speaker 1: based up? Do you get to evaluate that where the
Speaker 1: Traderi's got their gold set?
Speaker 2: That's what Yeah, I want to identify as someone who
Speaker 2: lives prior to nineteen seventy one. Yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 2: always a little bit of compliance there. You have to
Speaker 2: do what they track though. It's interesting with the high raises.
Speaker 2: They just track ounces in spot. So you know, maybe
Speaker 2: if you bought something that maybe you bought some trade
Speaker 2: at like some collectibles that were bullioned. You can only
Speaker 2: buy bullion, by the way, but if you've got to
Speaker 2: let's say you've got American eagles that were graded MS
Speaker 2: seventy and they've got another you know, two hundred dollars
Speaker 2: an ounce value or something or American buffalos. They're not
Speaker 2: going to track that value. They're only going to attract
Speaker 2: the spot. So whatever ounce into the spot. And even
Speaker 2: the same thing with fractional gold, and you know, fractional
Speaker 2: gold has a premium, but they're only going to attract
Speaker 2: the spot. So you know, technically that's what is in
Speaker 2: the IRA. They go ounce to spot and then whenever
Speaker 2: you would draw, they're just going to send you those
Speaker 2: medals and it will show with draw that dollar amount.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, well it's a much better, especially when
Speaker 1: the dollar is devaluating so quickly. That's amazing. So the
Speaker 1: comment from Steve says, gold and silver, I hold it,
Speaker 1: but beyond barter, we will have to convert to fiat
Speaker 1: or to stable coins. Is this question? It all depends
Speaker 1: on how this all rolls out. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: imagine if there's a real chaotic situation that people would
Speaker 1: start accepting the gold, but they have to have some
Speaker 1: way to verify that. I mean, that's a that's an
Speaker 1: issue with Some states have been flirting with allowing gold
Speaker 1: as legal tender. Then the question becomes, how does the
Speaker 1: merchant or the person who is accepting the exchange the payment.
Speaker 1: How do you evaluate that this is real because you
Speaker 1: know you have to do that when you buy gold
Speaker 1: and silver from people. I guess that's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a technical issue. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Gets really complicated. I think what you'd have to do
Speaker 2: is have somebody like me be kind of an it,
Speaker 2: like like you would close a real estate transaction into
Speaker 2: title company or something like that. You would have a
Speaker 2: little bit of guidance. I think it would be the
Speaker 2: best way, especially if you know, if you were gonna say,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, use gold to buy this house. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: somebody has to figure out the valuation and it has
Speaker 2: to be put into some sort of uh, you know,
Speaker 2: liquid form in order to fund this through a bank
Speaker 2: or whatever there would there would It's not going to
Speaker 2: be easy to do that, but it's going to be
Speaker 2: I think in these states have done this. I think
Speaker 2: it's opens up a lot of opportunities and it's great
Speaker 2: for people because they can start thinking in terms of
Speaker 2: holding real money. And that's that's the first step in freedom,
Speaker 2: I think, is having real money and the peace of
Speaker 2: mind that you have that's like, Okay, the bank closed
Speaker 2: or there's something wrong, or they're freezing accounts or whatever,
Speaker 2: or you know, they've got negative interest rates and I
Speaker 2: have to pay them to keep my funds in the account.
Speaker 2: I don't have that problem because I've got I've got
Speaker 2: gold or silver physical and I've got that.
Speaker 1: And you're going to, like you said, it's going to
Speaker 1: open up some opportunities because you're going to have to
Speaker 1: have some third party that's out there. It's going to
Speaker 1: make sure that this just isn't gold paint or something right,
Speaker 1: so which.
Speaker 2: Is easy to do. There are some real I just
Speaker 2: recently went to a coin show, the World's Fair Money
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City, and I bought two new testing devices
Speaker 2: that were like a little lot more sophisticated than what
Speaker 2: I had and like it will actually measure. They showed
Speaker 2: me some of the new fakes that are out there,
Speaker 2: and they're really good. I mean they look exactly, they
Speaker 2: weigh exactly, and then you know there's something about them
Speaker 2: that they you can I mean, if you if you
Speaker 2: have an eye for it, you can tell there's something
Speaker 2: off about it. But it looks so good, so so real.
Speaker 2: Even silver eagles or maple leafs and stuff and the
Speaker 2: new testing devices that I have will actually show you
Speaker 2: how large the coin's supposed to be, not just it
Speaker 2: also extra, but it shows you, okay, well this is
Speaker 2: supposed to be supposed to be the diameter, but if
Speaker 2: it's not in this diameter, then it's the Because you know,
Speaker 2: golden silver dense metals, and they you know you can't
Speaker 2: it's hard to fake them as far as the size,
Speaker 2: but they they done it are good fakes, so they
Speaker 2: would you know, the general public's not ready for that,
Speaker 2: not ready for all the fakes that could be used.
Speaker 2: So like the average merchant would have to use somebody,
Speaker 2: you know, there have to be something in some way
Speaker 2: to to facilitate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had somebody when we had our retail stores
Speaker 1: of the video store, somebody wrote say cashier's check, and
Speaker 1: they had gone through and done like the little dots
Speaker 1: that the cashier check thing would do, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: The bank caught it. But even after I got back
Speaker 1: the fraudulent thing, I really couldn't tell looking at it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's something that you run across, certainly with
Speaker 1: paper money. Of course, the government itself is the biggest
Speaker 1: counterfeitter that's out there. But assuming that you say that
Speaker 1: just because the government prints that it's real, other people
Speaker 1: can print it as well. That's what they call a counterfeit.
Speaker 1: But Guard Goldsmith of Liberty Conspiracy says, I want the silverback.
Speaker 1: What's the status of that? Have you got the silverbacks?
Speaker 1: I'm working on it actually met some. They don't make
Speaker 1: a lot of them, and that's such great. I wish
Speaker 1: I had the equipment and I would do it myself
Speaker 1: and we'd have wolfbacks or something.
Speaker 2: We would make them. That's just silver and a note,
Speaker 2: you know. It's kind of like the gold backs are.
Speaker 2: But silverbacks would be really cool. There's just not a
Speaker 2: lot of manufacturing of them. But we will get them
Speaker 2: soon enough. I probably they will. The price of silver
Speaker 2: will that people will make silverbacks. Oh yeah, promise.
Speaker 1: Got a comment here from North American House EPO. My
Speaker 1: favorite bitcoin robbery was when Max Kaiser held a paper
Speaker 1: voucher linking to his own account on his RT show.
Speaker 1: A viewer scanned the sheet screen rather and swept his
Speaker 1: funds'retty amazing. I not heard that. I didn't know here
Speaker 1: that is yeah, Oh that's wow. Guard Goldsmith says, like
Speaker 1: I said when I joined wolf Pack, I got silver
Speaker 1: at twenty four per ounce. The medals retain their value
Speaker 1: and demand is rising. That's right, and everybody, like I said,
Speaker 1: everybody realizes that it is the go to place when
Speaker 1: things get chaotic and crazy, and they're going to continue
Speaker 1: to be chaotic and crazy with Trump there. It's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I think Jocelyn says Trump is
Speaker 1: always really really good for gold. You've had for stability,
Speaker 1: but he's really good for gold.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. I mean, we had the first
Speaker 2: Trump presidency, gold broke. It's all time high for the
Speaker 2: first time since two thy and eleven. I was on air.
Speaker 2: I was hosting your show in Austin when that happened,
Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, we broke two thousand. What a day.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought that was a big deal. Almost
Speaker 2: doubled it since then. It's only been about five years,
Speaker 2: so you know, that's I think that's indicative of the chaos.
Speaker 2: Markets love certainty. We don't give them certainty, they start
Speaker 2: to go haywire, and there's just not a lot of
Speaker 2: value in what we've built as far as the infrastructure
Speaker 2: of business in this country, with supply chains and small
Speaker 2: business being you said they were not essential, and all
Speaker 2: the stuff that happened to us in twenty twenty during
Speaker 2: the lockdowns that still hasn't recovered. So real equity hard
Speaker 2: to find, real equity, real value, and I think that's
Speaker 2: what people are searching for. And you know the default
Speaker 2: is going to be medals.
Speaker 1: Yes, a serian goal. So when the criminal government tells
Speaker 1: us next time that we can't old own gold, what
Speaker 1: is to stop them from confiscating everything in those custodial
Speaker 1: houses and giving us a few digital coins for them. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you know, most of the people are going
Speaker 1: to be holding the coins in their own custody, the
Speaker 1: people who had iras and other things like that. The
Speaker 1: government goes out there and starts messing with iras and
Speaker 1: things like that, that's going to generate I think a
Speaker 1: lot of pushback. They've been reluctant to do that. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you've got an ira and somebody
Speaker 1: declares bankruptcy. I know from personal experience as a creditor
Speaker 1: in a situation where somebody did that, you can't touch
Speaker 1: their retirement funds. So I don't know. I mean, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: the government can basically and will do whatever it wishes.
Speaker 1: At any point in time, but that is always always
Speaker 1: a concern. They can confiscate anything that they want. The
Speaker 1: thing I keep telling people is that you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at what FDR did, he didn't get everybody's gold.
Speaker 1: And when you look at what's been happening with a
Speaker 1: drug war for fifty some odd years, it looks like
Speaker 1: just because they prohibit something, they don't necessarily control it.
Speaker 1: I would say that that's a good indicator that you know,
Speaker 1: if they do prohibition, that there's going to be a
Speaker 1: black market. And I can imagine that a black market
Speaker 1: and gold would be something that would be even harder
Speaker 1: for them to crack down on, because you know, when
Speaker 1: people when there's a willing buyer and a willing seller.
Speaker 1: It's also even you know, law enforcement other people like
Speaker 1: the other way with this, because like this is not
Speaker 1: harming anybody. I mean, you can try to you can
Speaker 1: make a case that drugs are harming people because they
Speaker 1: are but still have a willing buyer and seller. And
Speaker 1: so that's one of the reasons why it's been so
Speaker 1: difficult for them to stop drug use and prostitution and
Speaker 1: other things like that, even though they do carry harms
Speaker 1: with them. But with gold, you got to say, you know,
Speaker 1: gold or silver, what is the harm of people having this?
Speaker 1: I mean, once they take that mask off and they
Speaker 1: go that level, that is a new escalation I think
Speaker 1: for the government, what do you think.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it would be a new escalation. And
Speaker 2: it's funny. I wear all my I don't know if
Speaker 2: I show this before. I have a nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 2: Soviet gold coin that my son bought from a person
Speaker 2: here at the shop in Branson, and it gave it
Speaker 2: to me for Christmas. Still got the hammer and sickle
Speaker 2: on it and as a knight. So the here I
Speaker 2: was born as a nineteen seventy nine gold coin. And
Speaker 2: what's funny about that. It's made by the Soviet government
Speaker 2: in response to what was happening in the United States
Speaker 2: with the rise in gold prices. And you know, they're
Speaker 2: a gold rich country at the Soviet Union or Russia,
Speaker 2: and there was a response to what happened to the dollar,
Speaker 2: and they made these gold coins. And I think that's
Speaker 2: interesting because the coin out lasted the government of the
Speaker 2: Soviet Union. And I've got this coin to remind myself
Speaker 2: of that, and I think it's a neat token from
Speaker 2: that timeline. But no, you're right, that would be a
Speaker 2: bridge too far. They would. First of all, FDR made
Speaker 2: it illegal for you to own gold, but there wasn't
Speaker 2: like this mass confiscation. And how I know this is
Speaker 2: because people sell me pre nineteen thirty three gold coins
Speaker 2: all the time. Somebody kept the gold, you know, and
Speaker 2: the hardest money wins. I think gold and silver will
Speaker 2: be a lot more attractive in the coming years because
Speaker 2: we were fine for a good while. I mean, the
Speaker 2: dollar held up as a stable a medium of exchange,
Speaker 2: and now that's going away, so it, you know, gold
Speaker 2: and silver and perhaps even things like bitcoin will replace.
Speaker 1: I can imagine Bernie Madoff. So you're saying about about
Speaker 1: his ponzis games. We were fine for a while. Everything
Speaker 1: that's going really well.
Speaker 2: So that's fine a little while until it's not. You know,
Speaker 2: that's the thing is well, it's really about perception. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like you, yeah, it was kind of like Indiana
Speaker 2: Jones when he switches the bag of sand for the
Speaker 2: for the relic, you know, and then these things everything's okay,
Speaker 2: then the balls. I think that's really more like what
Speaker 2: happened in nineteen seventy one. It's like it starts the
Speaker 2: ball rolling and you seem like you're you're going to
Speaker 2: escape it for a while, but eventually you know it's
Speaker 2: going to get you. And I think that's where we are,
Speaker 2: and yes, people will start there's going to be all
Speaker 2: sorts of things happening with it. It's a revolution of money.
Speaker 2: It's the revolution of the monetary system.
Speaker 1: So I always think about quote around. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: thinking about the quote from hl Minkon, who had libertarian leanings.
Speaker 1: He said, you know when they did that with alcohol
Speaker 1: abition goal prohibition. He goes, so last year, if I
Speaker 1: had a gold coin and a flask of whiskey in
Speaker 1: my pocket, the whiskey was illegal and the gold was legal.
Speaker 1: Now this year, the whiskey is legal and the gold
Speaker 1: is illegal. Just the arbitrary nature of government, you know.
Speaker 1: Coming in the comment from North American house, hippo, and
Speaker 1: thank you for the tip. He says. Last week Tony
Speaker 1: was right about the Bank of Canada having zero gold. However,
Speaker 1: the Canada Pension Plan, their equivalent of Social Security holes
Speaker 1: over five hundred billion in private equities, half of them
Speaker 1: in the US. So there you go, they don't have
Speaker 1: any gold, but they're in the stock market that might
Speaker 1: not work out too well.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to go well. They just sold
Speaker 2: last year, they sold a high rise in New York
Speaker 2: for a dollar that was the Canada Canadian Pension Fund
Speaker 2: because the real estate prices and office rents were down
Speaker 2: and they just basically just removed it for the debt
Speaker 2: and just walked away.
Speaker 1: Wollah Trudeau and those guys there geniuses, aren't they well
Speaker 1: anything else? Yeah, that's right because they can do whatever
Speaker 1: they want and they don't have to be accountable to
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Speaker 2: right now. It just seems like it seems slow, but
Speaker 2: I'm actually working fast, just slow results.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always great to have you on, and you're
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