WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:12.759 I played a game over break and I can't remember 2 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.160 the name of it, and my switches out of battery, 3 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:16.960 and you know how you can't turn on your Nintendo 4 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:18.160 switch UNTILSS it has like. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.480 Ten percent battery. 6 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:23.600 So I just literally don't think I can talk about 7 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:28.280 it because I don't. 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:33.359 This is the intro make up an game right now. 9 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:35.399 Switch charges. 10 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:36.240 It was there. 11 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.479 It was like black and white, and there was like 12 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:40.320 a cat and it was kind of blob like and 13 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.359 it was a platformer with like some puzzles. 14 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:43.159 So I'm gonna call it. 15 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.359 I I just saw this on like Steam. No you 16 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:49.640 did not, I promise you. 17 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:50.119 I did. 18 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:54.000 Hold On Black and White Cat where you solve puzzles 19 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:56.159 and it's a platformer. 20 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.600 It is uh, I. 21 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:05.480 Had your cat cute cute cat puzzle platformer. No, oh, 22 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.319 I see it right Umbrella, Umbrella Adventure, the Castle of Cake. 23 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.120 No, it's right here, end Zone, two zones. 24 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:16.120 That's not it about Star Wars, Bounty Hunter. Okay, maybe 25 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.519 AI Mortal Sin. 26 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.799 You've wasted so much of. 27 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.159 My time Hold On Cat. This is your fault. Yeah, 28 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:22.959 that's your fault. 29 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.719 It's not my fault that the Nintendo switch doesn't turn 30 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.519 on and this it has a certain amount of battery, 31 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:32.000 which so stupid. 32 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:33.239 No, it wasn't. 33 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:33.680 I love it. 34 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.200 Cotta buttered just saying random twisted metal. 35 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.599 Iree was it? Cotto buttered Cat ninety seven? 36 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.680 Cotto buttered Cat is a really long name. 37 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:49.159 Slippery too. 38 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.359 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the fire Scape cast. It 39 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:52.760 is episode ninety eight. 40 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:59.799 I'm Mike. That's Mary, Hi, that's Dan. Hello? Where butry Mary? 41 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.959 Really prepared for this episode? ID? 42 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.239 I played multiple games. 43 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:07.319 That you can remember the names of. 44 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.719 We're creeping closer to episode of Honda speaking a more 45 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:12.840 like Hondo buttered Hat. 46 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:14.199 We're getting close. 47 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.400 I'm gonna have just tilted your head in the exact 48 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.319 same way that amazing joke. 49 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.439 Yeah, look at that. Yeah yeah. 50 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.039 People tend to tilt their heads when they understand and 51 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:26.680 appreciate a good joke. 52 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.840 Is the game I didn't pick it up? Is the 53 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:30.479 game cat Quest? 54 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.800 I'm trying to help you here, I don't think so. 55 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.439 A Caravan Party, Animals, Stray rain World, Night in the Woods, 56 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:45.840 Kit dot Io, The Purring Quest, Cat Meat, uh Gatto, 57 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.479 Roboto Play with Gilbert remake, Magic Cat Cats Are Liquid 58 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.919 Cat Goes Fishing Cats one and two. A Street Cat's 59 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.919 Tail another site Cattails Become a Cat and Black Sad 60 00:02:59.000 --> 00:02:59.680 under the Skin. 61 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:06.960 There's tit talk. What is this game? What's the game? 62 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.360 Oh that's an appropriate Okay, I'm going to back out 63 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.159 of that Steam page. 64 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:14.759 So what's what's been up with you guys? Aside from 65 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:18.240 Mary's switch charging, I went. 66 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:18.960 No, I'm first. 67 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:25.400 I went to uh leaven Worth, Washington, and Uh, it 68 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:26.479 depends on how you want. 69 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:27.840 To say, oh, I'm sorry. 70 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.199 Is the is the person who has like the perfect 71 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.879 pronunciation correcting me. 72 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:39.479 La Worth laugh laughing. Prison town where they put Michael 73 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:45.120 vick O. What my dad said there. 74 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.879 Like you're going to prison for Christmas, And I was like, no, 75 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.520 it's a Christmas town in Washington. It's like a Bavarian village. 76 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.080 It's supposed to be really nice and fancy, and like 77 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.319 it's just cute. It's like a cute little shopping town 78 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.240 where you can get your little cocoa and they have 79 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.280 kids that are sledding and everything is kind of Christmas. 80 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.800 The the door shut that it is not what they 81 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.599 say because that doesn't happen. 82 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.080 Next thing, you know, and then you're going to the 83 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.879 mess hall and then you're the you're you're eyeing up 84 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.560 the person you're gonna make your bitch. 85 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:19.519 You don't because so you don't get made to be 86 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:19.959 a bitch. 87 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.920 I was stealing diamonds and no one was the wiser. 88 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.560 And then I got a surprise invitation to leaven Worth, 89 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:28.839 Washington for Christmas, and they got me. 90 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:30.879 Now I'm right. 91 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.879 It looked like a winter wonderland in that village whatever 92 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:34.439 you called. 93 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.360 It, Bavarian village, that's what. 94 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:40.800 Yes, but it looked pretty. You're a hiking and throwing 95 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:42.279 snowballs at each other. 96 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.480 Yes, it's what else do you do when it dumps 97 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.959 like a foot and a half of snow On Christmas Day? 98 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.160 It was very you know, it's just like the type 99 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.879 of Christmas that you imagine in your head is the 100 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.399 kind of place. It was, Lots and lots of snow, 101 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:04.160 beautiful moun mountain landscapes. We went to a really beautiful forest. 102 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.759 And then I was telling Dan I always play a 103 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:09.800 game and kind of get like a sucked into it 104 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:16.680 every Christmas. And I tried to download a game and 105 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.360 I played through it, but I forgot the name of it. 106 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.879 And that's how this episode started. In case anyone was 107 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.839 like what's going on. It's like a cat or blob 108 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:32.079 based game. I say cats are kind of like blobs. 109 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.079 No, yeah, I bought it because sometimes you'll play a 110 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:35.800 game the three years old. Sometimes you play games not 111 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:36.639 even out yet, and it never. 112 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:38.839 I bought it because it was on sale. It was 113 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:43.600 like three dollars on sale. Okay, no, because it might 114 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:44.680 not be on sale anything. 115 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:49.600 Is a tomb Raider four through six remastered? Intero Magnolia. 116 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.279 All right, this is such a waste. 117 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:57.279 Wait is it just called Blobcat. It's not just called 118 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:01.000 Blobcare's a game on the shop, a cat platformer. It's 119 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:01.879 called Blobcat. 120 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.920 But he's like white and red and there's a he's 121 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:07.319 got a bunch of different telescopes and stuff. It was 122 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.000 ten ten dollars now. 123 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:15.439 Is it? Anime? Girls Natty New Year? Anime Girls Nata 124 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:16.240 pult reloaded? 125 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.959 Once the puzzles are complete, you can enjoy admiring the 126 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.000 girls in the gallery at your own time. 127 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.720 I believe Blobcat is actually a game that's so wild. 128 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.160 There's a game called Blobcat on e shop and that's 129 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.000 not the game about the blobcat platformer that you played. 130 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:34.480 Is it fell Tails? 131 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.399 Pissed when you tell us the actual what is your 132 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.720 switch at? What's the percentage I had? 133 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:41.160 It's downstairs. 134 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.079 You need to tell someone to go get it. We'll 135 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.000 get it during the break because now I need to know. 136 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:46.399 It's like a. 137 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.839 Yeah, you'll be amazed. When I was on the sale page. 138 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.959 Shop, there's a lot of anime girls and kind of 139 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.120 spicy games on the Nintendo Shop, I was surprised, and 140 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.839 especially in the sales section. 141 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.519 Which is where I was out on Christmas. 142 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:13.079 Eve, how many of the games on sale were moderately 143 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.959 sixty percent off. 144 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.319 Right now is Love Furry Girls Zodiac dating app on 145 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:21.560 Nintendo Visha? 146 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.360 Wow, I'm gonna wait until that's full price. I got 147 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.639 to support the devs. Sure, yeah, yeah, damn. What's new 148 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.519 with you? Boy? I guess we had like the whole 149 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.319 holidays and New Year and everything, and it feels less. 150 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.879 It's also been we had to record that last episode 151 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:40.079 earlier than usual because so it's been like three weeks 152 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:41.399 since we that's right. 153 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.839 So I've been sitting on something that I found soon 154 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.759 after we recorded the last one. I've been waiting to look. 155 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.360 I don't throw the term hero around lightly, but I 156 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.720 will for myself in this instance here because Mike, we've 157 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.040 given you so much grief for your embarrassing about the 158 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.639 author that I dug up, and we've sold merch off 159 00:07:58.680 --> 00:07:59.560 of it, and you've looked like. 160 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.079 A damn it does look stupid. 161 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.519 I found, as I was a clear clearing up space 162 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.279 so on, like my drives and stuff, I found an 163 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.319 old screenshot of a forum from two thousand and two. 164 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:15.480 It was from a student filmmaking forum where were like 165 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.720 eight seven I would have been seventeen, probably going into 166 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.600 eighteen at that point for context. 167 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:21.600 So younger than I was for the about the author, 168 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:22.360 but still. 169 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.560 Yeah, so so less embarrassing, but still I want to 170 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.720 go in the spirit of fairness, I want to put 171 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.959 this out because I was honestly in shock at how 172 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.240 much of a douchebag I am in this comment was 173 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:33.240 a shot. 174 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.519 From a forum, but in that screenshot is a comment 175 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.120 you is my comment, yes, and called why you screenshoted it. 176 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.200 It looked like it was a thing where it was 177 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.080 like two different like it looks like I tried to 178 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:44.919 type it up and then it like didn't go through, 179 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:46.000 and then I tried it again. 180 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:47.519 It looks like I probably screenshot it to be. 181 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.600 Like, why isn't this posting or something so I can't 182 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.200 see the whole thing or anything, and it's like over 183 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:54.519 twenty years old. Okay, but I'm clearly responding to someone 184 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.240 who's like, I don't really understand cooperck In why Cooper is? 185 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.080 Oh my god? Would this be fun or if I 186 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:00.720 read it? Or can do you? I guess you think 187 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:02.039 guy should Okay, you read it. 188 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:07.039 Do you think that he says anything about fight Club 189 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:07.279 in this? 190 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:09.919 This would have I guess my club would have been 191 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:10.679 out a couple of years. 192 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.559 Before, Little Dork. 193 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.039 Yeah, I think it's worse. It's worse. 194 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.639 It's I don't think it's as bad as Mike's, but 195 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:22.320 it is bad enough to where I do want to 196 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:23.279 embarrass myself with this. 197 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.039 All Right, here we go. 198 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.399 I keep in mind somebody before I had clearly said 199 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.159 something like, oh I don't really get Kubrick, I don't 200 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.720 really understand doctor Strange Love or why it's funny. Okay, 201 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:36.679 you have to really appreciate the subtleties of doctor Strange Love. 202 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.879 But then again, based on your previous posts, I bet 203 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.639 you're not even sure what the Cold War was. 204 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.720 It's gonna get worse. Okay, okay, okay, there's should be 205 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:50.039 there are. 206 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.200 There's so many things going on in Doctor Strange Love 207 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.799 that you obviously didn't even pick up on. The whole 208 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:59.679 movie is about Jack Ripper's essence and Cold War paranoia. 209 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.320 Notice the little things like how Jack subconsciously strokes his 210 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.600 phallic cigar symbolism. Symbolism, symbolism. 211 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.399 I'm getting a cold from this fucking comment. 212 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.120 Yeah, two thousand and one is genius. Clockwork is genius. 213 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:19.159 Nothing more to say there. Yes, his work may be 214 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.559 slow at times, but that's not a problem if you 215 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.120 have a decent attention span or a minute appreciation of 216 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:30.039 good film. Yeah, and a big finish. Now go see 217 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.279 Bad Boys Too or something. I'm sure you'd like that. 218 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.639 I heard they blow up something in it. Maybe a 219 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:35.480 car wreck too. 220 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:40.039 This is the Fast and the Furious, fucking Officionado in 221 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:40.559 the making. 222 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.080 Oh yeah, week this person just an editor. 223 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.679 This person. It sounds like you're responding to something cruel 224 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:49.440 that they said. 225 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:51.799 So it sounds like somebody just being like, I don't 226 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:53.399 really understand the deal with Cooper. I don't really get 227 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.840 Doctor Strangelove. And then I probably went through their post 228 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:57.759 history and was like, oh, this person probably doesn't even 229 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.559 know the coldor which I don't. 230 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.639 There's so much effort to drop some of bomb on 231 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.759 someone who doesn't give a ship about you. 232 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:10.720 A seventeen year old filmy in all of. 233 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.480 Your film history, and I love my favorite line and 234 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:17.879 all of that dribble was even in minutia of appreciation 235 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.679 for good film, like what is good mine? 236 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.080 Mine was appreciation good film. 237 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:25.480 Ciar no. 238 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:29.759 I literally said, symbolism, symbolism, symbolism. It's oh my, I 239 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.080 would go back in time and kick my own ass. Yeah, 240 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.799 you I that's different than the author bio. 241 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.159 It is very different. This is like snobby, shitty forum guy. Yeah. 242 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:42.799 Mine was just embarrassingly like, uh, what would the word be? 243 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.600 I'm not sure. Was trying to like play up the nerdom. 244 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:46.840 You know. 245 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.559 Yours wasn't as like you were. Yours was harmless, nerdy stuff. 246 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.879 Mine was like, oh, this dude sucks me. But yeah, yeah, 247 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.600 uh hard in the other direction. I guess as I 248 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:58.279 got older, But I. 249 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.960 Think it was two weeks ago you texted me saying, 250 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:01.879 by the way, I found like in about the author 251 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.759 squ comment I made, and then you're like, I might 252 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:05.679 just save it for the show. 253 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.399 I was like, yeah, please do Yeah, it's it was 254 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.519 shocking to see that, So I'd love to. 255 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:12.559 Man, I wish I could, like, if we could do 256 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.799 time travel, it'd be such a good podcast. If I 257 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.759 could podcast with seventeen year old me. I wouldn't listen 258 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:20.000 to it, but I'm sure people wouldn't. 259 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.320 I would know about I wouldn't. I don't think I would. 260 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.799 I would annoy my past self, would annoy the shit 261 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:27.519 out of current me. 262 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:28.200 Same. 263 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.200 I don't think I was ever that snobby about movies, 264 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.200 but I'm sure I said something similar at some point 265 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.799 when I thought I like understood the whole world and 266 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.639 every little nuance of it and had to like convey 267 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.080 to other people that I was smart and I got things. 268 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:44.759 I'm sure I was like that about something I wouldn't 269 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:45.240 the other direct. 270 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:46.559 I used to be like I need to show people 271 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.360 I'm smart, and now it just turned into like I 272 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:49.679 need to seem very stupid. 273 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:53.120 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know when that turn happened, 274 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:54.200 but at some point it did. 275 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.080 Do you think that it sounds like you wouldn't like 276 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:58.960 your seventeen year old self, but do you think your 277 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:00.519 seventeen year old self would like you. 278 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.919 I think I would be like, what the fuck happened 279 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.639 to this guy? I don't think I would just like 280 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.720 my thing. I just did he have a brain injury 281 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.080 or something like? But then I'd also be like, well, shit, 282 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.759 it seems like things went all right for him, so 283 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.240 maybe I shouldn't change anything. 284 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:19.600 But uh, yeah, yeah, I think I think seventeen year 285 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:23.200 old me would like me, But I don't think I. 286 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.720 Think yeah, I would hate old Dan, would hate young 287 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.240 Dan more than young Dan would just like old Dan. 288 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:32.840 Yeah, that's like coming face to face. 289 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:33.600 Uh. 290 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.320 You know people talk about those random little things they 291 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:38.679 said back in like fourth grade that keeps them up 292 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.000 at night, coming face to face with all of those 293 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.440 in one package in the same room, arguing with you, 294 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.320 and it's arguing with you and like putting you down better, 295 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:47.799 Doctor Strangelove. 296 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:49.840 Yeah, I'm gonna go to seventeen year old me and 297 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:51.919 clockwork Orange, strap into a chair and make and watch 298 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.080 mcgover twenty times appreciate A symbolism. 299 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.080 Is a Cold War thing. 300 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.960 They were good fucking guys, pretty. 301 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.799 Good fucking guys. It's a fucking asshole of a day. 302 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:06.960 Symbolism symbolism. 303 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.080 Uh. 304 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.360 Not that happens when you're not a social kid is 305 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.440 you don't have anyone to check you and be like, hey, 306 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:14.440 you sound like an asshole. 307 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:14.759 You know. 308 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.440 Yeah, but you had sister, you should she should have 309 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:18.679 been so much younger. 310 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:19.600 They were so much. 311 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.759 Younger, and they at least make fun of you. 312 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.159 I mean, we all made fun of each other, but 313 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:25.440 we all got alonger eight. You know. 314 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.120 I do think it has benefit toed Oh my god, sorry, 315 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.039 I do think it has benefited me that I have 316 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.480 four older siblings who constantly if I because the oldest 317 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:39.480 one is ten years older than me, so he was 318 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.240 going to college when I was in going into third grade, 319 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.000 so he would frequently not not like bully me, but 320 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.799 you know, like the the annoying shit that teenagers say 321 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.759 or you know, like tweet preteen so to call he 322 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.799 would be like, dude, no, like, trust me, you're not 323 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.039 gonna I mean, I my brother is talking to me. 324 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.360 Keep in mind it's my brain. Others would often phrase 325 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.720 it as girls are not gonna like this when you're older, dude, 326 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:05.679 like you got that, and that would be like. 327 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.840 Okay, good, thank you good. Note about the author see 328 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:09.639 if girls like this. 329 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.440 Yeah, where was Where was Pat Maharty when I was 330 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.240 writing that about the author? Damn could have fucking called 331 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.240 me a homophobic slur when I needed it. 332 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.080 You could have gotten so much more puss if he was. 333 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.240 There, Dude, I got the guy I could. I'd be 334 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.000 swimming in puss if if he was there. No, no, man, 335 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:30.519 it's a couple more Tolkien references. 336 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.559 Know you know your ship, he's like, preferably the bridge 337 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.679 from stairway. But then go deep cut go go like 338 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.639 do your maker show them you've been there, deer maker. 339 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:47.279 It's like deer maker maker said dear maker. Oh sorry, 340 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:48.200 I can't speak French. 341 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:50.039 Mister. 342 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.519 I go to France seventeen times a year with my 343 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:54.200 special France luggage. 344 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.279 Went twice. I don't have special France. You have special 345 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.399 luggage that holds wine bottles. No, it's a normal I 346 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.720 just pack it full of I have sleeves, bubblo. Oh 347 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.519 you you got special blind inserts for your leggage. 348 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.799 Okay, you can't have that ship break and through thirty 349 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.639 thousand feet up baby, Otherwise is going to be rain 350 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:11.759 and Burgundy on Spain. 351 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.759 Yeah, I think seventeen year old you would kick your ass. 352 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:18.919 There's part of me that seventeen year old wol not like, 353 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.080 let's get all our seventeen year old self together and 354 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:22.200 kick current Mike's ass. 355 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.639 Let's bring all seventeen year olds of each of us 356 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:31.559 to the present, like make them watch the inauguration and 357 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:32.519 then kick their ass. 358 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.279 Wow, it just seem I don't know, it seems like 359 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.519 a historical future moment for them. I see. 360 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.919 Yeah, my seventeen year old self would not be involved 361 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.200 in any of this. They would be like, where can 362 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:44.159 I get high? 363 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.159 Mine would be calling the cops on you forgetting it. 364 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.200 I knew it would each other. We would not have 365 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.240 been friends at all. What I've been doing seventeen I was. 366 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:01.600 I cared a lot about lacrosse. Okay, yeah, checks out 367 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.039 that I wouldn't like that you were so I would 368 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.279 have thought you were a jock and Mary was a delinquent, 369 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:08.960 and we would not have got along, none. 370 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.640 Of us speaking completely actually, Like, honestly, I was definitely 371 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:13.759 there were certain days when I was a jock. There's 372 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.599 certain days when I like, was, you know, hanging out 373 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:18.640 my friends I played video games with? Did Halo system 374 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.759 links on three different floors of our house or I 375 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:22.599 didn't have three floors in my house, two different floors 376 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.200 in my house. Then there are other days where I'd 377 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.119 be hanging out with like the stoners, and it wasn't 378 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:28.839 like if I was with the jocks, I would bully 379 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:29.279 the other ones. 380 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.119 I would actually I'm not saying this to brag. 381 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.799 My point being I almost used to feel like I 382 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.079 was cheating and not being I wasn't being like an 383 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.440 actual I didn't have an actual personality because I hung 384 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:42.559 out with so many different groups. 385 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.039 I thought, sure, I was like I should have picked 386 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:46.960 one at some point. This just feels like I'm faking. 387 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:49.759 Yeah, you're dabbling. You're allowed to dabble as a kid. 388 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.880 I feel like we're I think this is very American 389 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:53.559 high school. 390 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:54.440 I've heard. 391 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.920 Yeah, now I'm all in on Jock maar and I 392 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.799 push up contests about America punch nerds when I see 393 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:02.839 them on the street. No, I was gonna say, like, 394 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.160 I think that it's very American youth to have in 395 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.480 our movies like American Pie and things like that, to 396 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.759 be like, oh, the jocks don't hang out with the uh, 397 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.519 you know, sure with the nerds and the there's like 398 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.359 obviously like the computer club, and then there's the people 399 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:19.000 who like to sing. 400 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.240 But anyway, like, I don't think that's actually the case globally. 401 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.240 I think that's something like we've created for ourselves and 402 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.559 then have kind of stuck ourselves in and said which 403 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:28.359 group am I in? 404 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:29.559 And she's like, you don't have to be in any 405 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:29.880 of them? 406 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:30.240 Yeah. 407 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:32.279 Like like in high school, like I didn't like party 408 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:34.559 or socialize or anything, but like I got along with 409 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:36.640 and I got like everyone from you know, jocks, to 410 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.599 music nerds, to theater people to anime doors to you know, 411 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:40.599 like all that stuff. 412 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.440 I got along with everyone. You hung out with the 413 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.359 anime doorgs. I'm sure they appreciate you calling them that 414 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.279 when you hung out with them. 415 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:47.319 Look at us, Hello, anime doors. 416 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.640 No, I think I think I would hang out with 417 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.880 people that like j RPGs and then make fun of 418 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:53.880 them because I saw them as lesser nerds than me, 419 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.559 and I was like the jock nerd by comparison, because 420 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:57.759 I played cool, military. 421 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:58.559 Stuffy school. 422 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.839 Actually, there were a couple of anime nerds in my school, 423 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.240 and I think I was probably wary of them and 424 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:08.759 didn't hang out with them, didn't understand them. No, no, 425 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:10.839 I'm probably just getting ready to call the cops on 426 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:12.039 I think. 427 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.359 Now if we if we're closest to any of those 428 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:19.359 archetypal clicks, we're probably the A V Club. 429 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.720 Yeah, I mean that. Yeah, I did that video production 430 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.000 class and everything right now, Like if us as a 431 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.920 group had to pick one like Jake as well, especially 432 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:31.599 were the club, I could see that. Yeah, former Joe, 433 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.319 cool place to land. Former former I don't know what 434 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:34.880 Mary would be. 435 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.799 I'd still be in the delin gym, delinquent gymnast at 436 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:39.240 right now. 437 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.119 The balance beam I had. 438 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.079 I had a bit of a duality in high school too, 439 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.759 where I was like do half doing chasing drugs and 440 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:51.359 half gymnastics. And so I was like I was on 441 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.480 when I was on, and then when I didn't need 442 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.759 to be an athlete, I was chrying to score. 443 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:03.079 We contain multitudes. I just came up. I just came sorry. 444 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:06.240 Yeah, I was my own phrase. You can quote me 445 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:07.960 in the future when you say that, say it was 446 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:08.440 my body. 447 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:09.559 I will not. 448 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:11.799 I don't know if I've told you the blue smoke story. 449 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:12.519 Stop me if I have. 450 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.200 But I was in sixth grade and no, I was 451 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.000 in sixth grade and I was walking around the neighborhood 452 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.119 and I was terrified as seventh graders because they were 453 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:20.920 in junior high so they were older, and they went 454 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:22.839 to a different school. And one of them rode his 455 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.039 bike up like my cul de sac or something and 456 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:28.000 was smoking something and he's like, hey, do you want 457 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:30.599 to hit? And I was like no, and I went 458 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.039 and I like ran to my mom and I was like, Mom, 459 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.000 we have to call the cops right now. And she's like, what, 460 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.000 I just saw one of the seventh graders smoking weed 461 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:41.599 in the outside, just in the could de Sac. 462 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.240 He showed it and she's like, you sure it was drugs? Yeah? 463 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.400 Mom, it had blue smoke. I saw like there was 464 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:48.839 blue smoke coming out of it. There's stick in his 465 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.599 mouth that blue smoke. It was definitely drugs. Well, we 466 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.440 need to call nine one one. And she was just 467 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:55.599 like my mom was never like a real drug purson 468 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.759 or anything like that. She's like, it's fine, it's some 469 00:20:58.119 --> 00:20:59.160 teenagers smoking weeds. 470 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:00.920 Like pretty fine, it's from Did you. 471 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:04.680 I went to Dare Camp? 472 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.319 Oh, fun loser. 473 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.400 I definitely would have not liked you. Well listen, Dare Camp. 474 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:12.160 I didn't go there. 475 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.759 I want a contest to go to DARE Camp, and 476 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.119 that means you just go to a bunch of like 477 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:17.799 dang parks and camps and a bunch. 478 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.920 Of cops, like calling nine one one the most in 479 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:21.519 your class. 480 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.359 They just put a they put a line of coke 481 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:25.680 on a table in front of thirty people and anybody 482 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:26.440 who doesn't. 483 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.920 No everyone, and I think was entered, and everybody did 484 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:34.640 want to go because it was like you got to 485 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:36.480 go to Worlds of Fun, which is like our six flags, 486 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:37.559 and you got to go to like a camp and 487 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.400 there was like a bunch of like fun stuff and 488 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:40.920 then they teach you a bunch of like anti drug 489 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:42.440 stuff and it's with a bunch of cops and everything. 490 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.160 But yeah, I went to DARE camp during a summer 491 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.119 and I was all in on the messaging that was 492 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.559 you know, I will call those. 493 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:53.000 Obviously were like number one pig. I'm just like so 494 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:57.079 blown away by like your aversion to drugs to this 495 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.319 degree that you're like constantly walking around hitting nine to 496 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.880 one on your phone and waiting for another reason to 497 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:03.920 hit the final one. 498 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:05.559 Meanwhile, locked and loaded. 499 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.160 Meanwhile, in twenty twenty five, literally three hours ago, I 500 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:10.279 was having a conversation with a weed company about doing 501 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:11.559 a partnership. 502 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:17.240 A local well, well, well a couple of dollars around 503 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.119 and he's no, not even dollars. 504 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:21.039 I just went free weed. Yeah. 505 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.039 I was gonna say, Dan doesn't need money, No, just 506 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:24.640 give you your free shit and I'll talk about it. 507 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.039 What it was a turning point like college, we. 508 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:28.559 Deal it would be so killer. 509 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:29.359 No college. 510 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:33.079 Actually, well, okay, it started to turn better, like leading 511 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.920 up to college, because I started hanging out more with 512 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:36.559 people and I started drinking a little bit. But then 513 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:38.400 I did mushrooms the first time. I had my first 514 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.440 like like I had a really bad panic attack. Then 515 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:43.519 I did mushrooms again, I had a really bad panic attack, 516 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.160 and then I did Morning Glory seeds, had a really 517 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:48.000 bad panic attack and swore off. Like I thought I 518 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:49.599 was losing my mind. For like months, I was like 519 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:51.759 had this like mental break almost where I was like 520 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:54.880 physically sick for like several months with like crazy flu symptoms. 521 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:56.279 I thought I was going crazy. And all this time 522 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:58.440 it was like, honestly a really rough spots, like senior 523 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:00.640 year of high school. So this would have been like 524 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.240 first semester of college is when I know all the 525 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.759 mushrooms was that summer before college, but yeah, and so like, 526 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:08.519 I was so scared of that, and I was convinced 527 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.680 that I like broke my brain with the mushrooms and stuff. 528 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.640 So I became very like I didn't I was past 529 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.680 the point of judging anyone for pot. Like all I 530 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.799 was in the art storm, everyone smoked pot copiously. 531 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.200 I just drank, but. 532 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:23.359 Yeah, I was just really all my friends smoked all 533 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.720 the time. I could have had weed all through college, 534 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:28.559 but I just was scared of it, honestly, so to 535 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:30.319 the point where it's like I would have dental procedures done, 536 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.400 like I had my wizard teeth stuff done without pain 537 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.079 meds because I didn't want to feel high. 538 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:38.240 So do you think it was connected to your anxiety 539 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:40.079 that you were basically like, I'm going to get out 540 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.519 of control because your anxiety made you nervous. 541 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:44.400 A thousand percent? 542 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:45.680 I thought I was going crazy, And I was like, 543 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.119 what if I just got you hear these stories like 544 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.960 somebody you know did acid and jumped off a balcony 545 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:50.839 or something like that. Shit scared me so much. And 546 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.119 then it wasn't until San Francisco when I moved there 547 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.039 and I was like, oh shit, I can just get 548 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.440 this card. I have a very valid reason with anxiety 549 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.759 and stuff like that, and I can look up strains 550 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:01.440 and I can buy it. No, it's not coming from 551 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.720 like a shady place or anything. And I started to 552 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:05.519 kind of get into that a little bit. Actually, I 553 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.359 like this, This isn't that bad. I've had ups and 554 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:09.759 downs with it since then, as far as like I 555 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:11.920 have periods where it makes me more anxious and periods 556 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.079 where I'm more curious about it. I think I'm right 557 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:15.880 now in a spot where it's like I do want 558 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.519 to start having it more. I've been having weed selters 559 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.039 with movies with punk instead of like drinking, and because 560 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.680 I'm doing kind of like a dryish like January thing, 561 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:23.519 but I'm having a weed. 562 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:25.319 Try January with an asterisk. 563 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:31.160 Yeah, I know, we try, right, Yeah, everybody knows that 564 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.359 if you're sober, you're allowed to smoke. 565 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.720 But yeah, yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's what all 566 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.839 the sober kids do. But yeah, so I'm I. I 567 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.720 was anti weed as a narc kid, I was scared 568 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.200 of weed as a college student, and I've been very 569 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.000 curious about weed as an adult and looking for. 570 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.400 Ways to, you know, help with like anxiety and stuff to. 571 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:52.279 Find your dosage. 572 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:54.599 I think like a lot of the times, because I 573 00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:58.279 also ran really anxious as a kid, and I also 574 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:02.279 had a panic attack from do doing too many mushrooms. 575 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.359 Used to be really careful with like how much of 576 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.599 that stuff you're putting in your body when you're hyperactive 577 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.519 and mentally all over the place. Like I freaked out once, 578 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.720 and I kind of learned the hard way. I am 579 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:15.480 very particular about my dosage. 580 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.559 I also did, so I had such a different path 581 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.839 than you, Dan. I think I was smoking weed when 582 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.920 I was like thirteen. I was a fucking bad I 583 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:25.359 was a bad kid, and I was like. 584 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.920 A team up your ass so quick. 585 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.519 My my mother is a saint, and I would have 586 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.119 stabbed you on site. 587 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:35.000 And I was. 588 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.720 She was just put up with a lot of my shit, 589 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:39.079 you know. 590 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.440 Like my mom loved me unconditionally and would constantly be 591 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.400 like she's out there doing the drugs again, and she 592 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.920 would come find me and I would, you know, and 593 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:49.039 I would just go do it again. 594 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:49.640 I was the worst. 595 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:53.480 But in college I felt like I was quite a 596 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.799 seasoned vet by then, Like I had already done a 597 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.119 lot of drugs. By then, I had already done most 598 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.160 of the things that you're not supposed to do, and 599 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.559 so I thought I was like way cooler than everybody 600 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.400 else was like doing their first drug and I was like, 601 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.599 oh are you? And I'll never forget like the first 602 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:13.480 time though, that I tried a volcano, which is like 603 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:17.480 where you have those like vaporizers, and they put it 604 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.839 such like PURETHC in a bag and I. 605 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.039 Was like, let me show you, bitches how it's done. 606 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:25.839 And I took like the biggest rip I could off 607 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.279 of this bag because I smoked pot a lot, and 608 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:32.359 I felt like I could hang and I absolutely got 609 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.079 annihilated from this bag and I didn't remember where my 610 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.880 dorm was and I needed help and I needed I 611 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.519 needed like to process. I felt really unsafe, and they 612 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.759 had these you know, they have those phones in colleges 613 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.599 in case you need to call security, because yeah, in 614 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.759 case something like really bad happens. And I remember just 615 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.759 like hanging out by one of those phones just because 616 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:56.680 I was like, I'm so fucking high. If anyone comes 617 00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.519 up to me, I'm grabbing this phone because I'm freaked out. 618 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.000 And then I eventually it just like uh, it just 619 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:03.960 kind of worked out and I and I got over it. 620 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.440 But it's the thing about it is is like you 621 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.160 and I are actually quite similar. I also run high 622 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.880 anxiety and needed to find the right dosage, and if 623 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.279 I went too hard, I had the worst time. So 624 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.400 I have learned from that and in my years now, 625 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.759 I really like everything prepackaged. I'm quite a gummy person 626 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.319 now because I'm like, that's my dosage and if I 627 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.160 do that, then I'm not gonna overdo it. 628 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:29.039 I'm not gonna freak out. 629 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.200 Yeah, same like the Seltzers. Like you know, I'll have like, 630 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.279 you know, five ten milligrams, and I know I'm good 631 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.039 and I know it's not gonna last for hours and hours. 632 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:36.519 I can slowly sip it during a movie. 633 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.519 But like I do think I can actually like kind 634 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.240 of help in a way, like those scary moments, because 635 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.839 I never had a panic attack or knew what anxiety 636 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.200 was until I did mushrooms the first time. That would 637 00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.519 been summer of two thousand and two. Well no, but honestly, 638 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.200 I wouldn't change anything, because, like I thought, it was like, 639 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:54.200 oh that was just you know, because I was high, 640 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:55.599 and then I did the mushrooms it was like, oh, yeah, 641 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.440 I've had a bad experience because I was tripping. And 642 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.160 then the first like panic attack I had sober was 643 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.960 seeing I think it was Lord of the Ring's Two Towers. No, 644 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.599 it's gangs in New York. Gangs in New York like 645 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.279 run New Year's and I was like, felt that feeling 646 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:08.559 my chest, thought I was gonna die. I had to 647 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:10.160 like sit in the bathroom and just freak out, and 648 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.680 I was like, what the fuck is happening? And that's 649 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:13.720 when I was like, oh, I broke my brain because 650 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.640 I could explain it before because I felt that way 651 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.039 because I was tripping, and this is like something I'm 652 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.119 so cold, sober right now, What the fuck is this? 653 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.160 And that led to me learning about what anxiety was 654 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.440 and panic attacks and like starting to get help with it. 655 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.079 So ultimately I obviously had some underlying shit that I 656 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.680 think that the mushroom was probably just like hey, buddy, 657 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.559 you should probably be working on this a little bit, 658 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:34.920 so I wouldn't change anything. 659 00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.799 My first time on mushrooms, I found a stick and 660 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.960 said that I invented trees, and I kept trying to 661 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.519 stick it in the ground and being like tree invented well, 662 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:48.640 I think I was trying to say planted, but like 663 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.960 in my head, I was like, look at me inventing trees. 664 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:54.720 I thought I come to bush. 665 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.119 I thought I invented World War Two, and I felt 666 00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.720 really guilty about it. I was like thinking about like 667 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.319 montage of World War Two, like d DA footage. 668 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.799 Why did That's horrible? Why did I do that? I 669 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:09.119 do that? Yeah? And then yeah, jump cut to fucking 670 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.119 fifteen years later and you're saying, I want you to 671 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.799 cream your jeans on Normandy Beach. You have changed. 672 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:21.920 Yeah, they are crazy, and I think it's insane that 673 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.759 we have that we all have, like these very consistent 674 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:27.880 stories of all trying them, like they're all kind of 675 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.319 prevalent in society. 676 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.039 No, no thirteen year old on my watch should ever 677 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:34.200 be doing drugs. 678 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.519 I'm such a fortunate little idiot that I was able 679 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.359 to get away with as much as I got away with. 680 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.519 But what I will say to I think I might 681 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:46.880 have said this before, but like what I will say 682 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.000 is like my sister never touched anything, and then college 683 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.359 she freaked out because she like had never been able 684 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.880 to do any of that bad stuff, and then she 685 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.480 did it all at once and kind of like lost 686 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.319 lost it a little bit because I was so seasoned 687 00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.359 by the time I had gotten to colle I was like, 688 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.200 no big deal. And I actually think it actually made 689 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:05.759 me better in college. Like I had really good GPA 690 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.480 in college. People, Oh wow, I had learned to solve 691 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.799 doing bad stuff and getting my shit done. 692 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.200 I had it all worked out. 693 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:14.880 Oh see. 694 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.640 I was the flip of that, because like I didn't 695 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.279 ever party or drink or anything. And then I go 696 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.200 to college and were like, hey, let's kicks ass and 697 00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.160 I like being social and everyone thinks I'm funny. 698 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.880 And then I would just like go out and drink 699 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:24.319 all the times. 700 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.240 Like I would come back with crazy stories, whacky d 701 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.240 and got drunk and did some crazy and like I 702 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:31.000 just went super hard on just like I'm never going 703 00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:32.920 to class. I'm just going to drink and party and 704 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.960 have crazy stories. And I didn't get any of that 705 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.200 out of my system in high school. I waited to college. 706 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:45.079 So yeah, yeah, I generally did much much better in college. 707 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:46.680 Like I hit college and all of a sudden it 708 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:51.359 made sense. My parents were kind of they're very different 709 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:52.799 than they are now, but they were pretty strict when 710 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.359 I was younger. So I was definitely like a bit 711 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.119 more sheltered until I wasn't at a certain point in 712 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:57.599 high school. 713 00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:58.880 But I was also sick all the time. 714 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.000 So by the time I got the college, just all 715 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.960 of a sudden, I think the freedom actually worked really 716 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.519 well for me, And then from there on I actually 717 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.000 started doing really well with classes in school and whatnot. 718 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.799 But I sucked in school before college. I think I had. 719 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.519 I really think I might be historically the worst student 720 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.039 that has a college degree in the history of the world. 721 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:18.519 Yeah. 722 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.839 I don't think anyone could have gone to less class 723 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.079 or given less of a shit or weasel out of 724 00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:28.160 so many fucking things. I cannot imagine anyone actually graduated 725 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:29.839 and it was as bad of a student as I was. 726 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.880 There's no GPA like bare minimum. Yeah, I did a 727 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.720 lot of pass fail stuff. I uh yeah, I mean 728 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.359 I would just shoot for a D and even that, like, 729 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:40.839 I mean most of them. I just like talked to 730 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.279 teacher like I wouldn't go to class. 731 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.680 For the whole graduating GPA. 732 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:45.400 Do you know, I think I was in like the 733 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.720 two's or something. But I literally. 734 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:51.799 Literally though I would like not go to any I 735 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.359 would not go to any classes for the whole semester, 736 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.279 and then I would get like i'd get a thing 737 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:57.519 be like hey, you're going to get an f and 738 00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.519 I walk in and talk to the teacher and be like, hey, 739 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.400 I know supposed to allo film classes, but I was 740 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.200 making this sketch show instead, So it's not like I 741 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.559 wasn't doing film stuff and you just give me straight 742 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.480 a's why that was like I got twos GPAs even 743 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.480 with many semesters of teachers just being like, yeah, we'll 744 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:12.039 give you straight a's. 745 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.440 It's fine even though I did not step foot in 746 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:13.839 the class. 747 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.200 And you wonder why people call you like lucky. It's 748 00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.559 not luck, I know. I mean it's like a speech. 749 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.200 Yeah yeah, yeah, why. 750 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:33.400 It's a combination and like white Man, just I did terry, 751 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:34.960 I did other stuff. 752 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.680 Like this outrage. I've been making a thing. 753 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.880 I like I had stuff to show. I was like, hey, 754 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.519 take a look at this. Like I was doing all 755 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:44.720 of this video production work. It wasn't to a syllabus 756 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.079 or your class, but like I was learning a lot 757 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:47.599 on my own. 758 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.359 You do the job, do what every other stupid kid 759 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.400 in this class did and paid a lot of money for. 760 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:53.319 You don't deserve it. 761 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.920 If I was your teacher, I would have been highest 762 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.799 ship and I would have failed your asses. 763 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.359 One of them gave me an AD for that class 764 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.920 I never showed up for, and then told me to 765 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:03.920 sign up for all of his classes next semester. 766 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.599 And he was gonna give me straight as for all 767 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.960 of those what and he did it. Seems like he's 768 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.720 a bad professor. I loved him, so I'm not gonna 769 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:17.079 let me see what he's doing. I love that guy. Probably. 770 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.720 Oh yeah, he's got a page there, all right, yep, 771 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:21.640 that's that's my guy. 772 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:22.880 Bel You remember his name? 773 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.440 I does that? Okay, Wait, let's like, let's let's do 774 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.960 guess who with Does he have red hair? I'm not 775 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:34.200 saying nothing. Here's my guy. Yep. Well, one of my 776 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:35.640 teachers won a fucking Oscar. 777 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.799 Well, this's okay, I'm fine saying this guy's name because 778 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.359 he was not one of the ones that let me 779 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.279 he was uh yeah, yeah, this is Kevin Wilmot. 780 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.480 He was hit one of the writers on Black Clansmen. 781 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:50.000 Uh. 782 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:51.680 He was fascinating to do. He used to do voiceover 783 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.000 stuff for my sketch show and stuff like. 784 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.400 He was awesome. But yeah, Oscar winning guy now, and 785 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:56.960 he was one of my dudes back then. But I 786 00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:58.759 loved all those teachers. They were they liked to be. 787 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.680 They talked me about in the newspaper. 788 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.200 What did they say about you in the newspaper. 789 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:05.519 One of the quotes was, I thought it was funny 790 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.400 is that he he makes films the way other students 791 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:09.039 go to parties. 792 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:10.840 And I remember reading that and being like, eh, I 793 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.000 also go to parties a lot. So they thought, I 794 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.199 don't get all the time they think like the energy 795 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.119 of your films or you thought, I think the enthusiasm 796 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:20.559 for making stuff. 797 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.440 Oh yeah, Because it was like I was on the 798 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.480 cover of the paper for like my sketch show and 799 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:27.679 videos and stuff, and like they interviewed my teachers. 800 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.239 My teachers are like raving about me. 801 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.280 Oh yeah, you're nothing if not enthusiastic. Yeah yeah, So 802 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:33.760 I think that got me pretty far with it. 803 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.239 Phansiastic's a good way to frame it. 804 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.239 I worked pretty hard, especially when I got back to 805 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.480 Syracuse journalism school. 806 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.159 I was I worked hard at that. Well, that was 807 00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.039 the hardest thing. Uh, there was what Because I was 808 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:52.079 a transfer I transferred one two four times in college. 809 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:56.599 Technically to different colleges. Or like departments, no colleges, universities. 810 00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.519 But when I got to Syracuse for journalist school, a 811 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.159 lot of the like tough journalism classes coincided because I 812 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.360 had transferred to everything all my other electives and American 813 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.039 history things. So by the time I got to that 814 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.320 last two years at Syracuse, like all right, take your 815 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.599 reporting two hundred class, your feature writing three hundred class, 816 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.239 your crime reporting class. So I was just like basically 817 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.199 out in Syracuse every day. I was just a reporter 818 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:22.719 for two years, which is why I loved it. I 819 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.599 wasn't I didn't feel like I was in school. I 820 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:25.800 was a reporter. And then I would come back to 821 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.559 the classroom and some like world class editors who are 822 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.199 now professors were editing my stuff. 823 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.199 Those great were how old were you twenty? 824 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.559 Were you picture yourself as like some hard nose detective 825 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.519 from an Elmore Leonard book or something like shoes Yeah, yeah. 826 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.639 Like a gum shooting reporter to you, Oh dude, I 827 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.599 walked around with like a hat tipped over my face. 828 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:49.679 I smoked. I like would pick up a cigar butt 829 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.960 off the street, like cigarettes. This just got interesting. 830 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.400 The bubble pipe, you just walk a walk onto crime 831 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.639 scenes with my trench coat, like who the fuck are you? 832 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.840 It was like, it's gonna be real hard for you 833 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.840 to solve this crime when the perps don't have faces, 834 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.800 and then at least and right up to take up 835 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.679 with that guy I don't know, and then they see 836 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.480 the story in the newspaper the next morning, like he 837 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.440 got none of the facts right, he didn't ask us 838 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.159 a single question. 839 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:21.960 Uh yeah, no it was Uh college is a fun time, yeah, 840 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.719 but it was also yeah I did not I went 841 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.760 to class most of it. Sucker. 842 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.039 Yeah, we really did, like like ships in the night, 843 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.000 seventeen year old me and you and then college me 844 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:33.239 and you. 845 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.159 We're on a similar wavelength now. 846 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.400 But that's the thing I think we all met with 847 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.360 every story we tell about our past, I feel like 848 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.079 we all became friends at the exact right time. Or 849 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.039 it's like I think if we would have gone much earlier, 850 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.239 we would have been too different to get along. 851 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.239 Well you know, yeah, I think that's very true. 852 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.119 And I think we are allowed to have so many 853 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.920 evolutions as people, and we are just so different than 854 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.760 the seventeen year old version or the twenty seven year 855 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.039 old version. And when we hang out as fifty seven 856 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.760 year old people, we will be like, ugh, you guys 857 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.280 were so stupid, Like we're we're just gonna continuously change. 858 00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.199 But I loved every evolution. I've loved that I've been 859 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.079 able to have it. 860 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.760 You know, I don't want to be the same person 861 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.360 with the same likes ten years ago. I love that 862 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.000 I have a completely different vibe now. 863 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.440 Yeah, I think that's natural and healthy. 864 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.840 I love my dad always says, when you turn thirty, 865 00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.559 everything's locked in and you're just that person for the 866 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:29.119 rest of your life. 867 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.480 No, it's it's not. 868 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:31.840 It's fifty. 869 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.639 Genuinely, I think there's something around fifty that makes people 870 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.960 be like I refuse to learn anymore. 871 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.880 I don't have society about lot about worn out. 872 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:43.679 I'm like fifty is. 873 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.800 Like, there's something about the fifty number where you're just like, 874 00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.920 I'm set in my ways. 875 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:51.480 You can't make me check. 876 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:58.480 I think my parents were like fifty five sixty, and 877 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.400 I have noticed then that they've just like, all right, 878 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:02.400 they seem comfortable with. 879 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:07.079 Who and what, and you know why, then like you're done, 880 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.400 you're cooked, you are you are complete, you are a 881 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.639 complete package deal, and you will not change for. 882 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.719 Anyone it's just really roast me till I'm dead. 883 00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:22.039 I can't fifty year old Mike is gonna be the 884 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.760 biggest asshole in the world. 885 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.920 Oh, dude, I can't wait till I have like long 886 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.440 gray locks and I'm just all I talk about is 887 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.280 wine and probably cigars by that point. 888 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.599 I don't really love cigars, but I'll probably get into them. 889 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:37.039 You're gonna be older, I have more money, more refined tastes. 890 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.840 You're gonna be yeah, like it's gonna be insufferable. 891 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.480 Yeah, but I'm gonna be hot as ship's gonna be 892 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.239 a dilf. No, I'm not gonna be a dad, but 893 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.000 like similar age, fly the boken once a year and 894 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:49.800 punch you in the face. 895 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.239 It's gonna be slid for they're like hot rod, but 896 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.360 you're not my son. I don't have cancer. It'll be great. 897 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.519 I think we'll be friends more fifty Oh yeah, yeah. 898 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.719 Good moments back then in the future. 899 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.039 I hope sixteen years. I don't know how long I 900 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:13.559 have to live. I'm fifty. Oh, that's a very. 901 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.920 Specific you knew you were only going to live until 902 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.840 fifty That would completely alter the trajectory of how I 903 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.800 lived my life. Yeah, if I only lived until fifty, 904 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.199 I would quit my job to day I would be 905 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.840 done and I would just start doing something else that 906 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.119 I like feel enthused about. 907 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.920 I would you know what I would do if I 908 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.639 was like several weeks from no, the day before I 909 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.079 knew I was gonna die, I'd kill somebody that deserved it. 910 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.639 I didn't deserve it. I don't know. I just want 911 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.519 to experience it once. Like, Oh, so many names just 912 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.039 came to mind. I'm not going to say any of them, 913 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.800 but I could probably guess all of that. You've seen 914 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.440 the list. Yeah. No, I wouldn't kill anybody. I'd embrace 915 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.719 somebody in that time. 916 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:03.760 Do they have red hair? 917 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.119 No? It would be like a doctor situation. Not doctor 918 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.039 who's the dude is? Who's Who's the guy that killed 919 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:16.119 his patients? Who wanted it? Ndork? I just said doctor Schovago. 920 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.639 I'd be like doctor Moreau, Like doctor Moreau, doctor Yeah, 921 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:25.519 doctor Caligari's cabinet. Who's your favorite evil doctor? Oh? 922 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.760 Actually, this speaking of I think I told you guys 923 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:33.480 we got the uh complete Bond Blu Ray collection. Oh yeah, 924 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.440 it was incredible, so, uh, just I guess I'll I'll 925 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.320 kind of do some quick recaps as we get through 926 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.119 the series. We are on The Spy Who Loved Me, 927 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:48.719 which is Roger Moore's third movie. I believe Roger Moore's era. 928 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.199 I think Timothy Dalton gets even. 929 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.400 More campy camp He had like two movies, right, yeah, yeah, 930 00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.800 like one yeah, Dollons, Living Daylights and Licensed to Kill. 931 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.400 That sounds right, because I think Roger Moore's last one 932 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.559 was Moonraker, which is supposed to be very bad, sure 933 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.599 because they were trying to capitalize on Star Wars, but yeah, 934 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.639 it's it's Sean Connery for four of them, and then 935 00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:14.280 he left. George Lasenby came in for On Her Majesty's 936 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.639 Secret Service, and then Connery came back for Diamonds Are Forever, 937 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:18.599 which I hated. 938 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.199 What was he would Never Say Never Again? It was like, 939 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.440 that's not a real Bond movie, right, But he once 940 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.559 said he would never play Bond again, and then they 941 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.320 made a movie called Never Say Never Again and it 942 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:28.880 was basically him playing Bond or something. 943 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:29.559 I don't know. 944 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:34.119 I didn't see that, but I some of these movies, 945 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.719 I mean, all the movies are fascinating to watch. Some 946 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.679 of them, like we're ranking them. Let me quick give 947 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.480 my ranking quick to date. As you can imagine, a 948 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.400 lot of women get punched and killed and thrown off 949 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.559 the script like nothing yeah and so oh yeah, every 950 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.320 woman immediately falls in love with him a couple times 951 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.480 when it didn't seem consensual until it was. I guess, 952 00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:02.800 but okay, here's a surprise. Really really liked Thunderball, and 953 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.719 I'll tell you why. There is a sequence in that 954 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.760 movie that is one of the coolest set pieces I've 955 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.599 seen in like movies modern or old, involving how they 956 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.679 steal two nukes off of this fighter jet once it 957 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.039 goes underwater, and then they camouflage it and do all 958 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.360 this shit. It's like but there's no lines of cheesy 959 00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.719 dialogue for like fifteen minutes while they're doing it. It 960 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.440 reminded me of a Cohen Brothers movie in that I 961 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.239 understand exactly what they're doing the whole time, and they're 962 00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.519 just conveying it through action and still shots. 963 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:30.119 It was great. 964 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.119 From Russia Wood Love. I liked that's number two. Goldfinger 965 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:35.920 was three. I think a lot of people put those up. 966 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:37.760 Top Man with the Golden Gun. 967 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:39.559 I like it is Yeah. 968 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:41.840 From Russiwood Love and Goldfinger I think are the two 969 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.480 iconic older ones. But Man with the Golden Gun with 970 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.440 Christopher Lee, very young Christopher Lee. It took me off 971 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.000 Watching all these movies catches me off guard at like 972 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.199 Jane Seymour when she's extremely young. That movie Roger Morre's 973 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.719 first movie. That was super weird and I think pretty racist. 974 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.639 A lot of them probably are, oh yeah, this was 975 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.039 Livin Let Die. But it's like a lot of New 976 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:05.480 Orleans Voody culture. 977 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:06.199 And sanity and everything. 978 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.360 It's so weird. I haven't seen any of the Connery 979 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.519 or more. I've only seen like the Craig and Brosnen ones. 980 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.000 And for some reason, I know like a lot about 981 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.440 bond Well gold Golden Gold for that. Yeah, which one 982 00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.840 was I just talking about this guy who loved Me? 983 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:20.480 Were like three quarters the way through. We didn't finish 984 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.639 last night, but that's when Jaws comes in, but they 985 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.519 are in Cairo. I was like, oh, I get why 986 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.559 he was in the Egypt Bonus mission now because it 987 00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.239 was that's where he was the movie. Odd job is 988 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.199 in the in Goldfinger, which is pretty early on. I 989 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.960 think that's the third movie. But there are other ones 990 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.920 like diamonds are forever. I cannot stand. I don't think 991 00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.000 you put you only live twice on here? Well, so 992 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.199 diamonds forever was the last Connery one, right, No, diamonds 993 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:49.800 are forever? 994 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.239 Is that what you said? Yeah? Yes, yes, so I 995 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:52.880 looked it up. 996 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.639 Never said never again? Was Connery coming back to play 997 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.960 Bond after? This is nineteen eighty three? So Conye comes 998 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.599 back for one more and it's based on Thunderball, but 999 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.119 it's a Bond movie. It is an actual Bond movie. 1000 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.360 Sean Connery is playing James Bond in nineteen eighty three. Oh, 1001 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.199 there's a lot of references to him aging and being 1002 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.159 past his prime. He's fifty two in it. But yeah, 1003 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.760 Conrie comes back for one post or like mid More, 1004 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.519 I think, And what's it called? Uh, never say never again? 1005 00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:20.119 Because he said he would never again play Bond. 1006 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.599 What year was it? Nineteen eighty three? So no, that 1007 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.199 wouldn't have been that would have been like Dalton era, 1008 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:28.079 not that. 1009 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.239 Maybe late More era. Oh okay, or like into Dalton. 1010 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.280 Sounds like he was actually younger than More. I like 1011 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.280 Roger Mora a bunch. 1012 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.840 I think he's actually my favorite early Bond George Lazenbye 1013 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.639 was not bad, but that movie was super weird. On 1014 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:48.639 Her Majesty's Secret Service, It's like a bunch of women 1015 00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:54.760 are brought to this Alpine mental institution and then brainwashed 1016 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.280 to be sleeper cells and bring like deadly viruses out 1017 00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:58.199 to all the major countries. 1018 00:44:58.199 --> 00:44:59.599 Sounds like an Austin Powers plot. 1019 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:00.840 Very strange. 1020 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.239 Watching these movies is like watching an action movie that 1021 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.320 mcgruber makes fun of that I haven't seen, Like, oh, 1022 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.039 now I get what mcgroober was riffing. Oh sure that's 1023 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.840 what or any like mel Brooks movie and like, oh, 1024 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:14.119 I get the reference now. And Lasmby puts the Cellery 1025 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.920 in his ass that yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 1026 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.519 Symbolism, symbolisms, symbolism. 1027 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.119 Yeah, but I'll keep you updated. It's it's been pretty fun. 1028 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.039 There's some really fucking good sellery. 1029 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.719 Are the American people? 1030 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.519 Oh my god? What's I thought you were gonna do? 1031 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:33.320 The government? 1032 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.599 Oh? Oh wow? Okay, yeah, symbolism, symbolism. 1033 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:43.719 Of what a good film is. 1034 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.239 You would know that The Cellary is all about fighting 1035 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.840 the government because you're in their asshole. 1036 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.039 It's it's more, it's more the it's more the lack 1037 00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.639 of truth in a in a No, it's it's a 1038 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.400 lack of pride in the post truth. 1039 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.519 Era, as American Dream writ large. Yeah, there you go. 1040 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.679 What is it about the Internet that makes that everyone's 1041 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.960 first instinct? I remember like nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven, 1042 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.599 I showed my dad AOL chat for the first time, 1043 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:17.840 and I was like, we went into a music chat 1044 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:19.320 room because I knew we like talking to music. 1045 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:20.920 And I was like, watch, Dad, these are all people 1046 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:21.719 typing all over the world. 1047 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.000 They're all talking about music right now, and you can 1048 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:24.599 just talk to them. And they were talking about you 1049 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.079 two at the time. And he just went in there 1050 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:28.760 and the first thing my dad ever typed on the 1051 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.119 Internet was you two has sucked since Joshua Tree. 1052 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.719 Why is that everyone's brain immediately clicks. 1053 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.880 Into like no, fuck you, yeah, gottam I like anonymity, 1054 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.079 I get call you out yeah again, And then everybody 1055 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.320 perceives everything is combative because they there's no body language, 1056 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:48.840 and then there's the. 1057 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.199 Way to read tone, and it's just like a nightmare. 1058 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.639 Yeah yeah, I still find myself reading, like for my 1059 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.400 day job, reading Google chat messages, like I think, are 1060 00:46:58.400 --> 00:46:59.159 they being an asshole? 1061 00:46:59.199 --> 00:46:59.280 Right? 1062 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.559 They're not. They're all wonderful people, but I just my 1063 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.480 brain sees that. 1064 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:10.639 Yeah, but luckily we have evolved past aol chat and 1065 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.000 have a wonderful podcast. 1066 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.440 Oh yeah about video games now as adults who know 1067 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.880 how to speak with respect to each other. Yeah, and 1068 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:20.840 don't call nine one one. 1069 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:26.840 I'm anymore. I'm not a nark anymore. I love drugs. Hey, 1070 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.079 do you guys have any drugs? 1071 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.920 I can buy from you? And you can send them 1072 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.559 across state lines. I'll call I'll call my buddy Rex. 1073 00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.280 Oh yeah, okay, if you can send me a picture 1074 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.159 of his driver's license all it, make sure the right 1075 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:38.760 people see it. 1076 00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.480 Yep, his name's Rex. He lives at three four six 1077 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.519 three Highland fuck you Boulevard. 1078 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:49.679 My neighbor is a cop. I should have started sprinting 1079 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.599 over his house all time, like banging on the dormant. 1080 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.480 I know someone that's got drugs ilegally. 1081 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.320 He would like that guy, are you on duty right now? 1082 00:47:58.440 --> 00:47:58.840 Can you be? 1083 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.719 He opens the door. He's got nothing but a robe 1084 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.320 and a boner and cocaine and a gus. Get your gun, 1085 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.320 your gun. That'd be a fun bit. I should start 1086 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:09.599 doing that. 1087 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.039 Go get your gun, where is it? 1088 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:14.079 But you know the things you can put quarters in 1089 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.639 to like look at the statue of Liberty from the 1090 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.880 from the Hart, right, Yeah, you should put like a 1091 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:19.880 bunch of those on your rooftop so you could spy 1092 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.960 on people to see if they're doing drugs in your neighborhood. 1093 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.400 Oh, that'd be a good idea. Someone's mowing their lawn 1094 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.880 and they look up on your roof and see. My 1095 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:29.280 grandma used to fucking do that. 1096 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.519 My grandma used to take me to the park because 1097 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.480 she thought that people that were going into the woods 1098 00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.159 and the trails were selling drugs, and so she would 1099 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.320 just like, get me McDonald's. We would drive to the 1100 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.079 parking lot and she would just sit there and watch 1101 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.760 the trail entrance and be like if she saw someone 1102 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.519 that you thought was like, well, they're probably selling drugs, 1103 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:46.320 she would call the cops. 1104 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:48.239 Is it? Like? 1105 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.159 What is I feel like people start owning property and 1106 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.039 just feel the need to protect their neighborhood and their house, 1107 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.440 like that's to get off my lawn archetype kind of 1108 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.639 This is like going out of your way to try 1109 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.280 to Like park wasn't near her house. 1110 00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:04.880 I mean it was in the same County. 1111 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.880 Oh okay, I gotcha. I thought he was saying, not 1112 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.119 that it would have been cool if it was her 1113 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:09.840 backyard or whatever. 1114 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.000 She's going to Yellowstone Trunk get Yeah, she's at tables. 1115 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.960 Is that? Is that a park? Tables? I didn't get 1116 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.880 the reference at all. I was just gonna pretend no, No, 1117 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.159 isn't that In Utah? There's a national park called like 1118 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:27.840 tables or some furniture. I know, the furniture like chairs. 1119 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.280 Her job is tables. 1120 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.280 Wait, tables National Park. Okay, it's not popping up. 1121 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:37.519 So no. 1122 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.880 Tables the name of the game. Mary was trying to 1123 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.159 think of table National Park. 1124 00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.119 If we're doing this podcast in thirty years, it's just 1125 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.000 gonna be us forgetting things and trying to google it 1126 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:50.239 National Park. 1127 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.079 We're actually gonna be replaced by AI, and then high 1128 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.400 versions of us are just gonna be farting and talking 1129 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.400 about what we think life is gonna be. 1130 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.400 Like I'd listen to that. It was arches. Ah, yeah, 1131 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.719 my favorite furniture, tables. Oh you don't have any arches 1132 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:09.719 in your house? You fucking pleab? Is it plaid' pleab? 1133 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.639 I think you guys want to have about video games? 1134 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.519 Oh yeah, go get your switch. I need to know, 1135 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:18.320 go get it. 1136 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.000 Okay, Dan, I feel like this is gonna piss me off. 1137 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:24.320 Why are you playing Red Dead two? 1138 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.480 I don't think it's gonna piss you off, actually, and 1139 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.079 I think it's coming from the right spot. 1140 00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:41.840 I think it's coming from Yeah. Yeah, I did decide that. 1141 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:43.719 I was looking at like the release calendar this month 1142 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.159 and I was like, that's kind of like actually a 1143 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:46.760 little lighter right now, like I want to play that 1144 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.599 Donkey Kong Country game that's getting rereleased. But outside of that, 1145 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.199 I got some time for the first time in forever, 1146 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.679 and I thought, maybe now's the time Red Dead two 1147 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.760 is on PC. It's been fucking seven years since it 1148 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.079 came out. Let's give it another reappraisal, because like, I 1149 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:03.079 really liked the turn I was able to make with 1150 00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.079 that stranding where I like met it on its own 1151 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.159 terms and came back to it and took my time 1152 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.159 with it and wasn't rushing it pre released to talk 1153 00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:12.840 about on a podcast, And so I installed it. I 1154 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.440 thought about installing mods and stuff or like saves they 1155 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.480 get you past the beginning and everything, and I was 1156 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.039 looking over up like fast animation mods and stuff, and 1157 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.519 I just decided, like, no, let's play the game as intended. 1158 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:23.119 Uh. 1159 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.320 And first of all, playing it on PC. Holy shit, 1160 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.039 at one hundred and twenty free a second and four 1161 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:32.360 K that fucking game, which is seven years old, is 1162 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.360 almost almost seven. It was October twenty seven, eighteen. Yeah, 1163 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.519 twenty eighteen twenty. I know we're early, but whatever. Yeah, 1164 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.679 it is maybe the most impressive game visually I've ever seen. 1165 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.840 It's just incredible, and like the little details and stuff. 1166 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.400 You know, light when you're riding through the planes at 1167 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.519 the right time, and moonlight's coming through the pine trees. 1168 00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:54.159 Oh yeah, god, you're you're starting, You're in the snow 1169 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:55.840 and you walk out there and I would just watch 1170 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.159 Arthur's hat and jacket and watch like the snow accumulate, 1171 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.000 and like walk by fires and stuff and see it 1172 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.800 melts when I go inside, and just like it's crazy 1173 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.679 fucking details that are just it's done. Horse prints, footprints, 1174 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.400 It's it's impossible. Even back then when I first played it, 1175 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.320 and I just ranted against it all the time, I 1176 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.280 never denied that it was a stunning and even like 1177 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.639 I like the story back then, I thought, you know, 1178 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.920 visually there were a lot of things I liked about 1179 00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.320 it back then. I just couldn't get past the slow animations, 1180 00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.400 the kind of like laborious pace of like always having 1181 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:28.800 to ride and ride and talk and ride all the 1182 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.840 way back to the camp and listen to this Dutch conversation. 1183 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:31.159 You know. 1184 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.719 And I think now that I don't have this huge 1185 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:40.599 expectation going in conversation, like conversations on horseback, like when 1186 00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:42.159 you're like constantly having. 1187 00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.239 Like it's a lot of well Dutches, you know what 1188 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.519 he's doing, you know, like that stuff. Dutch Dutch is the. 1189 00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.280 Get the character. I thought you meant like a Dutch Oven. 1190 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.960 Oh no, I think I forgot the name of the character. 1191 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.119 I didn't do that mod the Dutch Oven mod. No, 1192 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.880 you up into the gang, mem and you can't get 1193 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:01.960 him on under one big blake. 1194 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.960 All right. Now, here's where I'm gonna hear a weird 1195 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:10.639 noise and smell a weird smell. But don't worry, it's funny. 1196 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.639 I'm gonna trust me. We're going to call it the 1197 00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.039 American stove I learned listen to and bring it to America. 1198 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.800 Mister Morgan, I don't think American stove is sticky enough, 1199 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.519 you got anything else? How about finish pop? No, I 1200 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.280 still don't think so, mister Morgan. Okay, okay, how about 1201 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:45.519 and this is the one Scandinavian li crusade. I don't, 1202 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:45.840 I haven't. 1203 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:47.599 I don't think I'm gonna tried to Arthur before, Jake 1204 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.320 Deer Arthur Morgan, you should have him do that, Joe, 1205 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.760 because I had. I was wondering how long you would go? 1206 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.960 But just like uninterrupted, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I haven't 1207 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.480 done Arthur before. But so, oh wait, but how far 1208 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.159 are you? I'm like three hours in maybe, I mean 1209 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.440 it still feels like on a tutorial ist if I'm leaving, 1210 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:07.840 like the snowy mountains and stuff. 1211 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.280 So did you get out of the mountains? I mean 1212 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:11.199 I did this stuff. 1213 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:13.000 Where it's like there's the big shootout and I grabbed 1214 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.199 the odriscold guy and tied him up and brought him 1215 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.239 with a camp and learned how to hunt and all 1216 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.800 that stuff, and so like, yeah, removed from the expectation 1217 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.440 and also going in bracing for like listen, when I 1218 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.000 try to grab that canna beans, Arthur is gonna take 1219 00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:27.960 his sweet fucking time with it. And I'm ready for it, 1220 00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.639 and I'm also trying it in first person, which has 1221 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.039 been interesting. I don't know if I'm gonna stick with 1222 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:35.679 that or if I'm even gonna stick with the whole game. 1223 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.320 But the thing is, I am actually liking it a 1224 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.760 lot more right now, and I'm looking forward to playing 1225 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:42.639 more of it. It's just it does have that rock 1226 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:47.800 Star just undeniable style to it. Just a yeah, cinema, 1227 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.320 you know, it's a cinema A major I talk about 1228 00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.719 the symbolism. Yeah, no, it's even like the shootouts and 1229 00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:57.639 stuff like just it's the way, like when it decides 1230 00:54:57.719 --> 00:54:59.440 to cut to someone, you know, getting their death shot 1231 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.599 or whatever, the way the music goes, and everything, like 1232 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.599 the conversation system of just hitting L two and talking 1233 00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.119 to people, and there's just a million little interactions and 1234 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.679 stuff that you can do, and it's it's fascinating to play. 1235 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.000 I will say it is still annoying me at times 1236 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:13.360 where I don't know if this is just an early 1237 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.119 game thing, but it locks the save game thing. So 1238 00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.079 it's like FONK and I ordered food and we were 1239 00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.719 gonna like watch a movie last night, and I'm just like, okay, cool, 1240 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.000 I'll just save and it's a video game. I'll save 1241 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:25.519 my game and then when the food gets here, and 1242 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.159 then we'll watch a movie. And I was like in 1243 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:29.159 the middle of a mission and it locked the save 1244 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.840 thing and I looked at the auto save and the 1245 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.360 last auto save was like forty minutes ago. So it 1246 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.159 made me do this whole fucking mission, the one where 1247 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:36.800 you blow up the train, you rob the train and 1248 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.239 all that stuff, and then I was like, all right, fine, 1249 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.239 let's get through this finish talking. Okay, let's go, let's go, 1250 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:42.960 let's go, and then it made me do another thing, 1251 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.320 and then it went right into another mission and cut scene. 1252 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.679 I still can't save the fucking game. 1253 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:49.679 And I looked and the auto save at this point 1254 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.599 was like an hour old, and it's like, listen to Rockstar. 1255 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.000 I know you're all rightfully, very proud of this piece 1256 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:57.320 of art you made, but it's still a fucking video game. 1257 00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.480 And I sometimes need to save the game and fucking 1258 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.440 walk away from it, and it's just like, oh no, 1259 00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:02.480 we can't have them save here. 1260 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:04.360 It's like they got to make all this all has 1261 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.039 to be on one sitting. 1262 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.239 It's like, you know, they've sniffed their own farts quite 1263 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.679 a bit over there, and it's understandably they're doing like 1264 00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.880 some of the most industry defining shit ever. But sometimes 1265 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:15.400 you gotta see if your game and fucking stop playing 1266 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.880 and like that little shit is bothering me, and just 1267 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.679 like you know, all those rides after every mission where 1268 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.719 it's like, okay, I'm just I have to hold a 1269 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.320 to like match the speed of the horses, even though 1270 00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.360 I'd love to just set my controller down and just 1271 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.440 watch this conversation play out, and I have to like 1272 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:33.800 pretend like I'm interacting with it for a long time, 1273 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.239 Like those things are still like I see why it 1274 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.960 really pissed me off and surprised me back then, but 1275 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.639 expecting it more this time has taken the edge off 1276 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:43.599 a little bit of that stuff. 1277 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.199 So I do intend to keep going. 1278 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:46.719 I don't know if I'm gonna finish it or not, 1279 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.559 but I think once it opens up, I think, if 1280 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.679 I'm liking it already this much and it's still kind 1281 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.199 of early snowy mountain stuff, I think there's a chance 1282 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:55.039 I could come around on this. 1283 00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.239 Yeah, because you'll the game really click to of me 1284 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:05.440 when you're leaving the camp outside Valentine, your first camp 1285 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.280 and then you go to the one in the swamps 1286 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.920 outside Breathwait manner, or rather when you go to Breathwait Manner, 1287 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.719 and that's your camp for a bit. After you do 1288 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:19.239 the whole after John Marson's kid gets kidnapped, and then 1289 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.960 the whole gang is like marches on the matter. I 1290 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:23.800 was like, okay, now that bicking will be like how 1291 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:26.039 the momentum is building up. But I love that game. 1292 00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.679 It's one of my favorite games. But I also, yeah, 1293 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:33.840 it's not in its minutia, it's not great sometimes. 1294 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:35.880 Yeah, yeah, but I mean the stuff that's good there 1295 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.760 is remarkably good, to the point where it's like I think, 1296 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.079 I can, you know, muster through the stuff that I'm 1297 00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:41.559 not loving. 1298 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.159 So it's fucking gorgeous. Also the sound design too, in 1299 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.039 the wilderness, like just especially with headphones on, just hearing 1300 00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.119 like crickets chirping, and then the socadas come out at 1301 00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.960 night and then you know, the morning, you hear just 1302 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.719 like you can hear a burbling stream from liked a 1303 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:57.920 quarter mile away. 1304 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.679 Yeah, that's the thing that's helping is because the first 1305 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.079 time I played it was in the like a tiny 1306 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.119 New York City apartment on a PS four with like 1307 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.559 TV speakers, and now it's like PC surrounds, Like I'm 1308 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.599 really able to appreciate everything a lot more. 1309 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:13.840 Now it looks and sounds a lot better. Yeah. 1310 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.679 Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see. I'm holding off. I'm 1311 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:19.239 saying full on, like, oh I love this or I 1312 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.519 still hate this or whatever. But I think it's it's 1313 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.679 the right time for this. I'm excited for updates, and 1314 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.480 I'm proud of you. Well things not really Mary. What 1315 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:28.199 have you been playing? 1316 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.480 Let's find out I charged my Oh my god, yeah 1317 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:34.880 I haven't. 1318 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:36.960 Mario Kart eight Deluxe. 1319 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.360 Caddie Caddy. 1320 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:48.440 Kind of a cat. 1321 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.800 It's a cat. It's very blob. 1322 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:53.840 Game is black and white. I thought you're saying the 1323 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:56.239 cat was black and white. I was something she was 1324 00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:57.480 saying the game was black and white. 1325 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.840 Uh, you know the whole game is black and white. 1326 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:04.119 I finished it. 1327 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.280 Uh for the audio listeners. Oh wait, Gizmo was just 1328 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.320 staring at me super weirdly in the back of the 1329 00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.000 frame right now. 1330 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:16.159 Yeah, it's being creepy waiting all right, you see a 1331 00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:20.199 cat waiting for the master. I have a podcast to do, Gizmo, 1332 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.639 is it be careful? Dad? This is gated. That's what 1333 00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.679 gizmo sounds like in my head. Be careful at this 1334 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:29.079 quicksand and Gated is dead. 1335 00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:36.119 Gated Caddie is a simple platformer that I bought on 1336 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:38.519 Christmas Eve and then I guess. 1337 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:39.559 Forgot about. 1338 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.400 It was on sale, which is why I bought it 1339 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:48.719 because I wanted to play a simple game that wouldn't 1340 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.199 stress me out. I think it was fifty percent off 1341 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.199 and it's five dollars, so it was two fifty. It 1342 00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.440 is very simple in design. Uh it is is I 1343 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.239 don't know when it came out, so this is not 1344 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:03.079 a new game. 1345 01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.199 I doubt uh Caddy c a T T I E 1346 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.320 for the record, correct. 1347 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:16.519 Correct heavy platforming where there's like spikes and uh slicer 1348 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:17.199 and dicers. 1349 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:19.800 It looks meat boyish. 1350 01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:24.079 I wouldn't give it that. I would say that there 1351 01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.800 are elements of it that I suppose have. But Super 1352 01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.440 meat Boy is like beautifully done and has like really 1353 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.920 intricate levels. These are just like levels that were put together. 1354 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:39.159 I don't mean this to be too disparaging this do. 1355 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:40.639 You not want to talk about it? We can move on. 1356 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.039 I didn't care for it, but I did it. 1357 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:47.239 But I I just want to say you it's like 1358 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.039 a simple platform or for when it was on sale 1359 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.480 for two fifty I mean it did the job for 1360 01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.320 Christmas Eve, so, uh, that was what I played. No, 1361 01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:01.320 here's here's the real story I was told. I told 1362 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:03.840 you guys, every Christmas, I usually play a game really 1363 01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:05.239 hardcore for the break. 1364 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.320 That's something I like to do. You recommended me like 1365 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:09.280 three games. 1366 01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.920 I didn't want to play any of them for whatever reason, 1367 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:16.400 maybe because I was like drinking a lot on Christmas. 1368 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.119 Even was like, I just want a simple game that 1369 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.280 I can burn through. I'm not going to stress about it. 1370 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.039 And I played Caddy and I and I rolled credits, 1371 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.440 and I thought to myself, that wasn't super satisfying. I 1372 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:27.840 do kind of want to synk my teeth into a 1373 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.800 game for the rest of Break and actually get like 1374 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.360 immersed in it. You know the kind of thing where 1375 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:34.199 like you wake up and you're like, I'm gonna make 1376 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:35.679 myself a coffee and I'm going to. 1377 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:36.760 Start my game. 1378 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:38.800 Yeah, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna pick up where 1379 01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.119 I was yesterday, like a full time job game. And 1380 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:49.559 I ended up, uh getting Links Awakening due to Dan's recommendation. 1381 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.559 And I actually lay wait links Away. 1382 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.440 Waits Awakening, Yes, the remake. That's one of my least 1383 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.360 favorite Zelda games. Why would I have recommended that. 1384 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.079 I you just said it one of your links. 1385 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:02.679 I didn't say link to the Past. I saw that 1386 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.760 you mentioned that. I don't remember Dan, I think to 1387 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.800 the Past like Links Awakening. I remember it. It was 1388 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.639 Link between Worlds that Dan and I were both gushing about. Yeah, 1389 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:14.679 I was on three ds. 1390 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.719 I played links Awaken. 1391 01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:24.239 Days remake at least fine the remakes better than the original, 1392 01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:26.440 but yeah, it's one of the lesser Zelda games. 1393 01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:28.760 We were gushing about Link between Worlds. I remember that. 1394 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:34.519 I really struggled with it, just to like, so you 1395 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:35.000 could talk to. 1396 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:36.800 Dan about it. I didn't. 1397 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.519 People get so mad. Me grub loves Links Awakening. And 1398 01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:41.159 then I was like, that's one of the worst Zelda games. 1399 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.000 I so I I loved it back to day. 1400 01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:45.559 I would always say it was one of my favorites, 1401 01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.280 just because I thought it would make me seem cool. 1402 01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.239 Uh I I like, I was like, oh, I'll be it. 1403 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:51.159 That's like the deep cut. 1404 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.000 That's like saying your favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers album 1405 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.199 is Monarchy of Roses. But then I played the remake 1406 01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:57.639 and I was like, oh, I don't like this game. 1407 01:02:57.880 --> 01:02:59.960 No, I don't. I said a good thing about Links Away. 1408 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.840 The dungeon designed, the island designed hard. It's so hard 1409 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.360 that the Eagles Tower whatever is as terribly designed dungeon. 1410 01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.639 All of the dungeons are like really convoluted, and a 1411 01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:12.760 lot of them are designed in a way like there's 1412 01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:17.559 one that's designed with levels and if you fall on accident, 1413 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:18.440 you just. 1414 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.639 That's what I'm talking about. The Eagles Tower whatever, big 1415 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.239 metal balls, and you can lose the link between worlds 1416 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:25.039 or linked in the past. 1417 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:31.159 Those are those eight hour. 1418 01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:33.559 Days playing Thanks Awakening. 1419 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:36.280 Insane because you wanted to like come back and tell 1420 01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.639 Dan that you acted on one of his recommendations that. 1421 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:43.679 Even though he did not recommend it. I rolled, Oh, 1422 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:45.679 so sorry you did that. I mean, I don't feel 1423 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:50.480 guilty because this is a thing, but ship, it's just. 1424 01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.880 Like this is like you like kished your Christmas kind of. 1425 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:56.000 I bet I would have said linked to the past, 1426 01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.159 not like I love link between worlds, but I don't 1427 01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.480 think she's traveling with a three D S so like 1428 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:02.679 it was probably. 1429 01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.599 Link to the past though, and I remember like I 1430 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.519 thought that you were like, you know, there's Links the Past, 1431 01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:10.159 Links Awakening, they're. 1432 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.360 All goods on Switch, But I don't remember him recommending it. No, I. 1433 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:21.119 Should have played okay games. 1434 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:25.440 Is my take of Links Awakening is I did roll 1435 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:28.800 credits on it. It was very grueling and it was 1436 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:31.880 just one of those games where at first the first time, 1437 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.000 I needed a guide and I'm not, like I don't 1438 01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:36.599 usually do that. I usually like to just brute force 1439 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:38.559 my way through the game over time. But I was 1440 01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:42.400 so lost, you guys, And this game has multiple components 1441 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.480 that are very like God help you if you're just 1442 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.400 meant to just game or figure this out. But there's 1443 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.440 this one part where you just have an item and 1444 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:52.920 you're supposed to trade it to other people for items. 1445 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:54.880 It's like a long quest of trading stuff. 1446 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.360 Yeah, and there is a point in this where like 1447 01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.760 I have I don't remember a stick and I was like, 1448 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.719 I have no idea wants this fucking stick? 1449 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:07.519 No, an actual wooden stick? 1450 01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.199 And I just couldn't someone need to invent trees. 1451 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:14.559 I could not figure out who this set. 1452 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.280 I was like, Mary, that was all I needed to do? 1453 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:19.519 This stick I did. 1454 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.119 I did I'm very upset about this revelation that you 1455 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:24.639 guys didn't want me to play this game. 1456 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:26.880 It took a long time to get through this. 1457 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.960 I used the side I think four times to be 1458 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.360 able to get like there was a dungeon that was 1459 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.239 the Eagle's nest was impossible. The final dungeon is actually 1460 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:41.519 pretty impossible. And the the giving the item to various 1461 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.360 people to get the final item, which you need to 1462 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:45.239 get through this game. 1463 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.159 The trading quest is fucking rude. 1464 01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:49.800 Obviously give a stick to the person trying to get 1465 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:50.840 a honeycomb out of a tree. 1466 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:54.519 I did it know that. It's so fucking crazy. 1467 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:56.960 And like there's a part where the a person needs 1468 01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.840 something and they're under a bridge. Oh, I've never been 1469 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.199 under the bridge before. I didn't even know you could 1470 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:05.559 go under that bridge. And so I needed the guide 1471 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:07.480 to be able to tell me to go to these 1472 01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.000 certain places. I didn't unlock a lot of the stuff 1473 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.440 in this game. Why the time I opened the guide, 1474 01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.880 they were like, just use your flute. What does he 1475 01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.199 have use you? It's a very important term. Use your 1476 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.679 akarina to just transport yourself. 1477 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:25.440 And I was like, what do you mean? And I 1478 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:26.960 guess there's like a way to. 1479 01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.000 Get a song for your Akarina transport you this whole game, 1480 01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:32.800 I've been raw dogging it walk. 1481 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:35.079 Anywhere. 1482 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:36.760 I never fast travel. 1483 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.280 Well, there's fast travel locations, but you have to go 1484 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:41.679 to a fast travel location to get to another one. 1485 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.679 Apparently there was a song on your Akrena that would 1486 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:46.039 let you fast trap. I did not know that. 1487 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.719 I did not find that I had been walking. I 1488 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.079 mean the step counter. My fitbit was going nuts on 1489 01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:56.639 this Zelda. I could not believe how long it took 1490 01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:58.400 me to slog my way through this game. I did 1491 01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.400 finish it. I am proud of the fact that I 1492 01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.599 fucking finished it, and I think the ending was very 1493 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:09.000 lovely and magical. However, it is a difficult game, and 1494 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.480 I would never recommend this to like a teenager or 1495 01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:15.719 young child, like they would never survive. 1496 01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.800 Oh, you don't even like the art style for that 1497 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.159 remake the Fisher Price stuff. Okay, with the art style, it. 1498 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.360 Was cute, but I did I thought it was too 1499 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:27.800 hard mechanically. I just couldn't believe how they don't explain anything. 1500 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.360 As as Mike was saying, the ball one where you 1501 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:33.960 have to this is kind of a spoiler, but you 1502 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:35.480 have these balls and. 1503 01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:37.880 You're supper Giant metals. 1504 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:40.079 Big giant metals. 1505 01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:42.639 Yeah, that sounds right. We got to bring it around, 1506 01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:43.840 throw it up and floors and stuff. 1507 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.320 But then there's like those little red and blue like 1508 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.719 roads road blocks you have to raise and lower, and then. 1509 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.320 It's either on blue or it's on orange. 1510 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:55.880 And if it's on orange, there are times in this 1511 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.920 like Dungeon that if you have on the wrong thing, 1512 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.880 you can go through a whole section with a boss 1513 01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:06.320 fight and everything, and then right as you get there, 1514 01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:08.960 you can't get through because it's on an orange, and 1515 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.000 then you got to go all the way back slap 1516 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.119 it to blue and then you can get through. 1517 01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:15.119 Like it's mean. 1518 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:19.720 It's it's almost mean. There's no way that they give 1519 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.680 you the hint to slip it to orange. They just like, whatever, 1520 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.039 go through all this shit and if you can't get through, 1521 01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:31.680 then do it again on orange. It's a very cruel game. 1522 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:32.119 Boy. 1523 01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:33.479 I wish you would have played one of the ones 1524 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.560 we recommended. You would have had a great Christmas. There's 1525 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:37.720 really great ones in that series. 1526 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:39.800 Yeah, I really struggled through it. 1527 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:46.119 Two days ago or something. You were playing links Awakening. 1528 01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.039 I saw your you showed the intro video of him 1529 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.159 on the log waking up in the ocean, like don't 1530 01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:54.119 you yeah, like Dan's recommendation or something, And I was like, I. 1531 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.640 Posted, I said Dan recommended this. 1532 01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:59.840 I said it publicly. No, I famously don't like that 1533 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:00.479 game at all. 1534 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.800 Yeah, there's like fifteen Zelda games and there's like at 1535 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:07.439 least thirteen I would recommend before that. 1536 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:09.439 I gotta stop drinking. 1537 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.359 Well, yeah, that's one of the worst ones. Yeah, but 1538 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:19.439 you can say you beat it. 1539 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:19.640 Now. 1540 01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:21.119 Zelda two is there. 1541 01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:24.319 Now, it's in the it's in the docket. I'll probably 1542 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:26.199 pick a different one now. 1543 01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:26.920 Now I'll recommend. 1544 01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.079 I'm gonna recommend Middle Year Snake Eater and you're gonna 1545 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:30.000 play medle Year Survive. 1546 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.399 The different to play the right one. They're pretty different. 1547 01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.159 But yeah, see, wow, I'm proud of you. Thank you. 1548 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:45.079 I did want you to say that I'm really upset 1549 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:45.520 about this. 1550 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:48.720 Is this the new kissing it now that you don't 1551 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.600 have game? Yeah, playing the wrong game to play the game. 1552 01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:52.560 We didn't recommend. 1553 01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:54.560 It's playing game. We actually told you not to play. 1554 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:59.159 I thought that you would be excited for me. 1555 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.520 Alright, because this is funny, but yeah, not because you've 1556 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:07.520 played a good game. Yeah, it's a fine game. It's 1557 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:08.119 a fine game. 1558 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:11.239 What else have you guys been playing. 1559 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:15.399 I I'm almost to the end of the first Dishonored games. 1560 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.199 Still very good. 1561 01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:16.800 Uh. 1562 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.880 I will say that, having played a lot more Dishonored two, 1563 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:24.880 forgot how rudimentary Dishundered one was compared to that in 1564 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.000 terms of the amount of abilities you have, how you 1565 01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:30.399 can interact with the environment. But still for a game 1566 01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:34.199 from twenty twelve, if memory serves, it's still pretty uh 1567 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:37.119 flexible in how you want to approach missions. And I'm 1568 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.079 not going to replay it, but I do really appreciate 1569 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:43.640 that on one mission you can choose to save this 1570 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.079 woman who's being harassed by guards, and then later on 1571 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:50.079 she will help you access pretty difficult to reach area 1572 01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:54.680 in a mission during a much more difficult objective that 1573 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:58.079 you're trying to complete. Also, just the level design across 1574 01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.279 the board is pretty great. A lot more linear stuff 1575 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:04.760 in this game. Early on there's the bridge level, which 1576 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.199 I didn't love, but outside of that, the Masquerade Party 1577 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:12.880 is still great. It's just giving me heavy hit Man 1578 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:17.880 vibes sure, which is never a bad thing, but yeah, no, 1579 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.760 I also still I love that art style, Like I 1580 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.399 think I would go back and find it ugly, but 1581 01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:26.239 I really like it, even though I kind of has 1582 01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.760 that smooth clay texture as it works for that game surfaces, yeah, 1583 01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.079 because then when they do bleed, it's like just splash 1584 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:39.439 across this like stark environment. But I love the the architecture. 1585 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.520 Same dude who did a lot of the Half Life 1586 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:43.720 two environments. 1587 01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:45.920 I remember it was really cool. You know. 1588 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.479 When we were doing covers for Game Informer, it was 1589 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:50.439 always a big decision like what game goes on the cover, 1590 01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.319 And McNamara at one point was he had to decide 1591 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.039 between it was like just a very safe like the 1592 01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:01.000 new Assassin's Creator whatever and Dishonored, And I remember him 1593 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:02.560 thinking about it and he was like, you know, like 1594 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.520 I kind of like the idea, like you know, Assassin's 1595 01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.720 great to safe, but you know, Dishonored sounds like this 1596 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:07.439 thing no one's. 1597 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:08.880 Ever heard of, but it looks cool. It's got some 1598 01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:09.720 cool people working on it. 1599 01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:11.119 Like I think it'd be kind of cool to go 1600 01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:13.079 with this like Underdog one, and he'd like kind of 1601 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:14.840 had the foresight to put that on there and it 1602 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.319 turned out to be a really cool decision. 1603 01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:18.479 Oh dude, if a game with that, I mean a 1604 01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:22.000 the world building is so fucking cool, like the steampunk 1605 01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:27.119 Victorian plague ridden world in which they still hunt whales 1606 01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:29.319 and that's a huge point of controversy within the game 1607 01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:34.119 is really cool. I also just if a game like 1608 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:37.800 that came out today, that would be like, this is 1609 01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:39.279 fucking like pretty bold. 1610 01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:44.319 This is great. I love it. Yeah, the I don't know. 1611 01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.039 If there's one thing I geek out about in games, 1612 01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:49.000 it's like cool level design, specifically in immersive sims, and 1613 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.000 these are still great. I'm looking I'm going to play 1614 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.239 dishonor two and then Death is the Outsider. I'm kind 1615 01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:57.760 of doing like half non lethal half lethal run. I'm 1616 01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.560 not really sticking to one. I'm I only occasionally reloading 1617 01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:03.399 saves if i really want to do an objective a 1618 01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.560 certain way, but I'm I'm generally not trying to do 1619 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.199 like undetected or completely non lethal runs. I have done 1620 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:12.199 that before and it's just more fun to kind of 1621 01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.760 go with the flow. But nice. Yeah, I'm loving it. 1622 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.239 It is feeling like I'm just playing hit Man, but 1623 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:21.279 first person on a bunch of new Hitman levels. 1624 01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:23.640 But doesn't it have like a better like hit Man? 1625 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.840 Not that hit Man has any flaws, but doesn't it 1626 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:31.359 have like a really solid just beginning to end story 1627 01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:32.920 that I think is quite gripping. 1628 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:34.279 Oh yeah, it's more of a there's more of a 1629 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.479 script than hit Man has. For sure, you're like rescuing 1630 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.119 the kidnapped. You're framed, hence the name. But then two 1631 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.479 you get to choose between continuing to play as Corvo 1632 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.199 or playing as Emily, and their powers are pretty different. 1633 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:51.640 It's almost like that game had a you can replay 1634 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.159 it to try objectives differently and maybe go non lethal 1635 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.680 when you went lethal, but also be replay it as 1636 01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:00.159 the other character, similar to Resumel two. If resume to, 1637 01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.600 you know Jill and Leon had or not Jill, Jill 1638 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:11.039 resume to getting that wrong Jill Claire wasn't. Uh Like, 1639 01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.039 if Claire and Leon had different abilities in Resumealle two, 1640 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.520 it would be that same kind of replayability. But yeah, 1641 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.399 I'm enjoying the hell out of it. But yeah, this 1642 01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:23.239 story is still pretty compelling. I remember too ramping things 1643 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:27.600 up more, but I uh, it makes me wish when 1644 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:32.520 like Arkane Austin and Leon were firing on all cylinders. 1645 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.359 You know, Red Fall was a travesty for many reasons. 1646 01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:39.880 And you know, say what you will about Xbox taking 1647 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.960 over and imparting some timelines on them that might not 1648 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:43.319 have worked. 1649 01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.800 I don't know the full story, but uh, I don't know. 1650 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:48.960 I I love those games, I love Pray, I love 1651 01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:53.960 Arcane Austin their work. So nice. Yep, Dan, what else 1652 01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:54.520 have you been playing? 1653 01:14:55.119 --> 01:15:01.319 I played all of Mouthwashing in one sitting. U. No, okay, 1654 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:05.199 it's on paper, it sounds extremely not like a me game. 1655 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:12.399 It is a almost all narrative, serious story, dark, some 1656 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:17.039 serious topics it delves into. But it was like two 1657 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:19.680 hours long, a little over two hours long. And I 1658 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:21.800 just saw some screenshots and I saw people talking about 1659 01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.159 it in a way where it's like sounding, this game 1660 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.920 is doing some stuff pretty interesting, and just seeing the screenshots, 1661 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.199 it's kind of almost like ps one aesthetic, and I 1662 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.159 was just kind of intrigued by the screenshots and the 1663 01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:32.399 way people were talking about it. And it was the 1664 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.119 break and I was like, you know what, I could 1665 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:36.319 just sit down and beat this in a couple hours. 1666 01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:39.079 Let's just see what this is all about. And it's 1667 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.920 a you know, dark sci fi story. I won't spoil anything. Basically, 1668 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.239 it's just about a ship that crashes and things are 1669 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:50.000 bad and they're hoping for rescue and they're just trying 1670 01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:52.159 to survive. There's like a handful of people in the ship. 1671 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:56.840 All of these characters are incredibly well written and very 1672 01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.880 very quickly. Just a lot of depth is achieved with 1673 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:04.279 all these characters, and it's very economical and how it 1674 01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:06.680 gets stuff across, and a couple hours you come to 1675 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.319 know all these characters and you will have turns. I'm like, oh, 1676 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:10.680 I like this guy. I's like, oh wait, no wait, 1677 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:12.319 is this guy terrible? And it's like, oh hey, this 1678 01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.680 guy's This guy sucks, he's a he's a menace. And 1679 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.079 it's like, oh wait, that's actually really sad and like 1680 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:20.199 but in an effective way. Like I am not really 1681 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:23.359 affected by game stories much, and this one, like I 1682 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.079 really was drawn to the characters and their stories and 1683 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:28.880 where it goes. It's told very kind of like nonlinear, 1684 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:32.720 like you know the Tarantino pulp fiction style, where it's like, oh, 1685 01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:35.439 here's five days before the crash, here's six months after 1686 01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.880 the crash. And it is very dark and again deals 1687 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:42.880 with some serious issues, but it's fucking cool. 1688 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:44.239 It's what the gameplay. 1689 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.520 You're walking around the ship and it'll be like someone's like, hey, 1690 01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.199 can you go get this thing from the medical room, 1691 01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:51.199 and you go to the medical room and some horrible 1692 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.640 shit's going on, and then it flashes to another time period, 1693 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:56.680 like you know, after the crash or something, and then 1694 01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:58.920 you're just having a conversation with like the medic and 1695 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.039 then it flashes four like, oh, we need to like 1696 01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:03.399 break into this room with these like pods and see 1697 01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:05.640 if we can still use them to escape, and all 1698 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:07.640 this foam has filled the cabin. We need to chop 1699 01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:10.319 it up with an like it's there's very little actual game. 1700 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.640 It's a lot of walking through things and talking back. 1701 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.319 There's a couple kind of like gamy parts, and those 1702 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.199 are actually maybe my least favorite parts of the game, 1703 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.039 where it's kind of like it's not really stealth, but 1704 01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:22.399 it's kind of like if you fuck up, it's like 1705 01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:23.119 you got to restart. 1706 01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:29.479 It's like PlayStation one Graphics collided with Event Horizon collided 1707 01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:32.640 with what remains of Edith Finch. Yeah, it's not did 1708 01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.079 you play that? I did? Yeah? I like a finch. 1709 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.159 Yeah, yeah, it's I I don't want to say too 1710 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:39.600 much because I think it would spoil a lot, but 1711 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:41.640 I just do think it was like one of my 1712 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:44.239 favorite one of the most well told stories I think 1713 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:45.079 I've seen in a game. 1714 01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.640 And uh, I really do want to to plug that 1715 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:50.199 because it's it's very very unique. It looks cool, it 1716 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.199 sounds up my alley, which I think I think you would. 1717 01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:54.119 I think you might both find it pretty interesting. 1718 01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.039 It looks like the Twilight Zone movie, like it looks 1719 01:17:57.159 --> 01:17:59.600 so odd and all over the place, but in a 1720 01:17:59.680 --> 01:17:59.960 good way. 1721 01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.119 Yeah, that's like part of what got me curious is 1722 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.319 just the whole design is, like, what's going on here? 1723 01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:08.159 You know, how long did it take you a little 1724 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.079 over two hours? I would say, Okay, I'm into that. 1725 01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:13.359 I'm into short games these days when I'm playing other 1726 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:14.079 long form. 1727 01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:17.359 Stuff runs ground steamed back. I would love to if 1728 01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:20.000 you guys find a couple of hours. Jesus Christ. Sorry, 1729 01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.159 what one of the Steam videos of this? 1730 01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.359 Like, I'm on the game Steam page and one of 1731 01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:27.000 the I didn't realize I was on a video and 1732 01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.840 it just started suddenly with people screaming in loud noises. 1733 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.199 Oh, yeah, yeah, I want to play that even more now. 1734 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:37.439 I wouldn't call it a scary game. It is unsettling, 1735 01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:38.359 for sure. It is. 1736 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.479 It is dark, but there is some humor in it too. 1737 01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:43.680 I would I would love if you are intrigued to 1738 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.319 either of you. If you've got a couple hours between 1739 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:47.840 now and next recording, I'd be curious what you think 1740 01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:49.640 of it, because very impressed. 1741 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:53.680 Okay, might check that out. Looks good? Yeah, Mary, you 1742 01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:56.920 play anything else besides Links Awakening? 1743 01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:57.920 Damn it? 1744 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.159 Two more, just just more of the same. It's still going. 1745 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:08.159 I uh, it's still extraordinarily good and I'm just loving it. 1746 01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:11.600 And I don't know. I thought I was going to 1747 01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.079 beat it and I didn't, so I still have more 1748 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.920 to play. I've been enjoying the experience and uh, it's 1749 01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:22.960 it's been a joy to relive that game with updated graphics. 1750 01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:23.239 That's it. 1751 01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:24.520 That's all I have to say. It's still good. 1752 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:30.279 Okay, Yeah, I'm just playing dishonored. Uh, what's tricky madness? Oh, 1753 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.800 just very quickly. It's an early access thing. It is. 1754 01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:34.159 If you look up a picture of it, tell me 1755 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:36.800 what you think of It's exactly what it looks like. 1756 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.079 I want to see if you immediately it's early access. 1757 01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.000 It's got two courses all wait till Mike pulls it up. 1758 01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:47.319 So because I think it's the most like almost legally actionable, 1759 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:49.279 I don't know if I want to say rip off 1760 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:51.439 or it's I think they would probably like to say homage. 1761 01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:53.000 I'm sorry. 1762 01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:56.159 Mike looks confused, so I assume he's not an SSX GUYX. 1763 01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.199 Oh wait no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. 1764 01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.600 I looked up trick Madness on Google and it pulled 1765 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:04.279 up a very different thing. There's something else called Tricky 1766 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:06.359 the Clown Madness Combat Wiki. 1767 01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:09.920 Oh I put Tricky Maness game and then as like, 1768 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:11.760 oh yeah, SOX, it looks I loved. 1769 01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:16.319 SX Giant Floating Snowflake, we point multipliers and grinding and 1770 01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:19.960 just like it feels exactly like SSX, And I was 1771 01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.000 just even though it's just a quick, little like early 1772 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:25.039 access thing, I was like, fuck, yes, I love SSX, 1773 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:28.079 Cool Borders Amp Dark, Summit ten eighty, all those snowboarding games. 1774 01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.960 There was a real era there and they just don't 1775 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:32.920 do them the way they used to. And I am 1776 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.680 fine if it's just a shameless like, hey remember this, 1777 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:38.600 because I want more of that, so I will be 1778 01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:39.880 following the development of that. 1779 01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:44.039 I was like twenty thirteen's SSX kind of they went 1780 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:49.479 so grounded. Yeah, like, well, you're equipping yourself with like 1781 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.239 a temperature gear and stuff. It's just like it's like, 1782 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:53.600 this is not why I play SSX. 1783 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.520 I want tricky. I want to get like thirty miles 1784 01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.239 of hang time and then and then do the worm 1785 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:04.399 on a board. Yeah, the worm on the boy yeah moves. Yeah. 1786 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:06.079 Who was my favorite? I liked Mac. 1787 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:10.279 I liked he struck me as a Simon guy Simon, 1788 01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:13.199 which was yes, y m O win Simon. I think 1789 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:17.319 Billy Zane might have been his voice Simon. Oh yeah, yeah, 1790 01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:18.560 that's a guy right there. 1791 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:23.920 What Simon? No s s. I liked Mac and then uh, 1792 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.199 what was her name? Sex? Elise was good. I liked 1793 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.079 the lease Oh yeah, I think it was an elast mane. Yeah. 1794 01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:36.960 Do we even a lease man is least? Oh? Yeah, that's. 1795 01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:41.720 Out of context. I'm sure people know exactly what I'm 1796 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.439 talking about when I say I'm a deep deep from 1797 01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:44.920 the Foxes. Everyone Foxes. 1798 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:45.159 Yeah. 1799 01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:47.479 It was one of the fire Escapes Top ten games. 1800 01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:51.520 Many awards that was won have been talked about for 1801 01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.039 Oh god, we keep we keep discovering new secrets in 1802 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:55.439 that game. 1803 01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:59.560 We do I should change. 1804 01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:01.840 If you look up dewep out Foxies, there is a 1805 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:04.640 a plus profile picture if anyone wants to use it. 1806 01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.600 Just dweeb in a top hat and a bow tie 1807 01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:10.359 holding a banana, staring at the screen all pixelated. That 1808 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:12.199 is a fantastic picture of the man. 1809 01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:19.479 That's good. Oh really, yeah, yeah, that's the stuff. Whatever. Yeah. 1810 01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:21.640 Actually, when we showed up at we were showing up 1811 01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:25.359 rather at dance for a Game of the Year. I 1812 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.039 got their first I was like, let's play that Foxy. 1813 01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:32.039 I think he like laughs about joking. Yeah, we're playing. Yeah, 1814 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:33.439 let's let's run it back. 1815 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.439 You think this is a fucking game. 1816 01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:39.000 I got. I put him in a human cannon at 1817 01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:42.239 a circus level and shot shot ipe that you can 1818 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:43.560 play with. Yeah, it's fun. 1819 01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:48.840 I only played it for like maybe another two hours, 1820 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.560 but on the way home I played Grindstone again. 1821 01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:53.640 I don't know if you guys ever played that back. 1822 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.199 In the day, but it's still such an easy go 1823 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:59.920 to game, Like you know, people pull up Vampire Survivor 1824 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:02.560 is just to play it for like an hour grind 1825 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.720 You can play Grindstone in a fucking second and it's. 1826 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:06.520 Still so good. 1827 01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:08.079 I loved it. 1828 01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:10.600 Yeah, I'm not. I didn't list it as my games 1829 01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:13.520 where you mentioned Vampire Surcrivers. I'm literally at like almost 1830 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:15.920 seventy hours now in the last few weeks of just playing, 1831 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:17.880 like doing all the Vampire Survivor stuff again. 1832 01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:19.760 That's crazy as a beat too. 1833 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:22.319 Caslovania games during break, so it's like all this old 1834 01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:24.239 stuff I've still been playing, but I don't want to 1835 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:25.960 be the Caslvania is still good a term zone. 1836 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:28.600 That's what I'm doing with Silent Hill. 1837 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:30.920 I mean, I just like I said every once in 1838 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:32.560 a while, he only said it once. 1839 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:38.680 I only did it once. It's not you guys said 1840 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:41.239 so many fucking Zelda games. I wrote them all down, 1841 01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:42.399 and it's just in the list. 1842 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:44.439 He wrote them down and then didn't play any of 1843 01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:45.760 those I wrote. 1844 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:47.560 You must have brought it up. 1845 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:50.479 I'd love to check the tape. I want to go 1846 01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:52.119 back to that. I try and remember what would that 1847 01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:53.319 have been the email section I. 1848 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:54.920 Would have been from of near the end. I think 1849 01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:56.560 I bet Mary's like, oh, I got to find something 1850 01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:01.399 to play during break. I'll review to the past, its awakening. 1851 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:04.039 The end of the episode is literally nothing but you 1852 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:05.399 suggesting games to me. 1853 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:09.359 Okay, you tossing out trash at me. 1854 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.560 We'll go back and look. No, we give you gold 1855 01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:13.840 and you found trash. 1856 01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:21.800 Fucking came back with fucking buffalo chip. All right, you 1857 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:33.880 guys want to do emails, I swear okay, okay, okay 1858 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:34.279 as usual. 1859 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:34.680 You can. 1860 01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:39.520 Okay as usually The fire Kid Cast at gmail dot 1861 01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.960 com for questions, comments, stuff you want read on the episodes. Uh, 1862 01:24:44.119 --> 01:24:47.359 we've got a bunch in the last few episodes, and 1863 01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:52.239 uh we're still working through them, but keep those coming. Uh, Mary, Actually, 1864 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:53.800 I guess I can read this because it's in response 1865 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.359 to it's not a question. They're talking about my sleepwalking. 1866 01:24:57.439 --> 01:24:59.760 We discussed on last episode, so I'll get through this one. 1867 01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:00.680 Then we get to questions. 1868 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.079 Hi, I'm actually a sleep specialist, and I just thought 1869 01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:07.199 i'd provide some possible causes. Sleepwalking is a semi common phenomena, 1870 01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.439 with about one in fifty encountering it in their lives. 1871 01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:13.520 The most common cause is usually a quat crossed wire, 1872 01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:15.520 causing the body to be active in deep parts of 1873 01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.479 its rem cycle. With Mike, though it's probably blood loss 1874 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:21.119 from his brain because of a massive stiffy. All the best, 1875 01:25:21.239 --> 01:25:26.560 Doctor carp strong Man. Nice, thank you, doctor strong Man. 1876 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.640 Thank you, doctor strong Doctor Carp strong Man. I hope 1877 01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:30.399 that government. 1878 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.600 It's very man boggin of him to come up with 1879 01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:34.479 a name like that. 1880 01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:37.319 Mary. Do you want to read this next one from Jerry? 1881 01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:39.159 Sure? 1882 01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:44.560 It starts odd? Is this intentional? It's also? 1883 01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.239 Oh no, just I think it's just the murder? Yeah? No, okay, 1884 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:50.640 well no, read that and then I'll provide context because 1885 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:51.439 it's kind of funny. 1886 01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:53.319 Here's the here's the what. 1887 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:54.960 I put in our doc in the run of show. 1888 01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:00.079 Also, if the above question proves a big problematic and Marry. 1889 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:05.079 Say it was, that's why. Now I'm curious. It's not 1890 01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:09.119 that bad, but like it's what is it? Okay, now 1891 01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:11.159 let's do let's do this. I'm gonna look at it. 1892 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:13.960 We'll look at it. It's not that bad. No, we'll 1893 01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:15.479 save it for effort. We'll go back. But I just 1894 01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:17.720 thought it's kind of funny to start with that, like 1895 01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:21.800 it's a Mary, it's a Mary fuck kill see. Okay, yeah, 1896 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.319 it's not good. 1897 01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:26.279 So I included the one that's not about people here 1898 01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:30.479 because probably there's a mery fuck kill about actual human beings, 1899 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:33.000 which is they're actors. We've discussed, but I just thought 1900 01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:33.800 it might be important. 1901 01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:38.479 It's so literal. Come on, let's read it. 1902 01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:43.359 Oh wait, okay, so this, yeah, here's a mary fuck 1903 01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.920 kill for us to debate. Here we go. It's mary 1904 01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:51.600 fuck kill Stofers, Mac and cheese, Velveta cheese and shells, 1905 01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:53.680 mac and cheese pizza. 1906 01:26:54.760 --> 01:27:01.520 Okay, I think I have mine. Well, okay, so is 1907 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.520 this a literal thing? You were just calling me like 1908 01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:05.439 we're literally having sex with this? 1909 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:06.319 No, no, no, no. 1910 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:08.520 That I think would you have the one that you 1911 01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:10.199 would want to have for the rest of your life, 1912 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:13.000 the one that you would like to have one amazing 1913 01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.520 night with, the one that you would have to sacrifice 1914 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:18.880 and it would never exist on the plate face of 1915 01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.279 this earth ever again. And I also think, just because 1916 01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:23.039 food is a bit weird, I think it's the one 1917 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:26.880 that you would you would get to eat five nights 1918 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.840 a week and enjoy, whereas one is like you can 1919 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.840 only have it once, but it's so nice, but you 1920 01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:36.119 don't actually want to have it five nights a week. 1921 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:37.000 That would be too much. 1922 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:38.840 I was taking it too literally. And I was trying 1923 01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:40.119 to think of which of these would be the best 1924 01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:41.079 to put my penis into. 1925 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.239 Yes, I know, we know that. 1926 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:45.720 And I was thinking pizza because you could wrap it around. 1927 01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:48.319 But okay, we're talking because you get sink in. 1928 01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:51.119 Get in there. 1929 01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:53.560 Oh, look at mister deep dish pussy. 1930 01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:59.359 Did you just say deep dish pussy while dot com 1931 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:04.119 that if you want to subscribe to fire skates, Patreon 1932 01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:06.560 just got a deep dish pussy dot register that to 1933 01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:08.600 have to go to our merch page. Okay, let me, 1934 01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.680 I'm going to hover while you guys, are you do 1935 01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:16.359 the mac and cheese thing? I'm gonna all right, well, 1936 01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:18.720 I think you know Stofer's gonna be funny to talk 1937 01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:23.520 to our accountants. What is this expense that it's just artists? 1938 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.880 It's right off, right off, It's funny the craft mac 1939 01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:29.319 and Cheese isn't on here because that is the one 1940 01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:32.119 I probably had the most in my life. So if 1941 01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:34.399 it's just the Stofers Belvida and mac and cheese pizza, 1942 01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:36.640 I think the Mary is definitely Stofers. 1943 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:39.079 That has historically been my favorite. 1944 01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:41.119 That's the one when I go back for Thanksgiving, my 1945 01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:43.720 Grandma makes Stover's mac and cheese just for me still, 1946 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.439 and the rest of people have, like, you know, grown 1947 01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:45.840 up food. 1948 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:46.239 Yeah. 1949 01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:50.319 Ooh, so between Velveta shells and cheese and mac and 1950 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:55.319 cheese pizza for fuck and kill, Well again, if it's literal, 1951 01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:55.760 I'm going. 1952 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:56.199 With the pizza. 1953 01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.840 Stop it's not. We've discussed this. 1954 01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:01.760 Okay, then one crazy night. 1955 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:04.760 I don't want to kill any you know what, Mac 1956 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.640 and cheese pizza is fine, but it's a gimmick. 1957 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:07.960 I don't like. 1958 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.279 I like it, but if I'm getting a pizza, I'd 1959 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:12.319 rather just get a real ass pizza. I'll kill the 1960 01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:15.640 mac and cheese pizza. I will fornicate with Velvita shells 1961 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:16.000 and cheese. 1962 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:19.439 M yeah, I would fornicate. 1963 01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:24.439 I agree with Dan's assessment. 1964 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:29.119 Stofers is taken home to the parents, Velveta is for 1965 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.399 one sexy night, and like, you just. 1966 01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:32.800 Have to kill the pizza. 1967 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:34.800 But now I also have all these mac and cheese 1968 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:37.720 memories of breaking bones and getting food poisonings. So I'm 1969 01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:40.079 starting to have a complicated relationship with mac and cheese. 1970 01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:49.079 Uh okay, thank you Jerry from purchasing a website. Yeah, 1971 01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:54.319 grotesque is it? 1972 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:54.439 On? 1973 01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:58.560 Silent can we get it. I can't right now. Is 1974 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:04.039 it are your sale on deep dish pussy cop Big 1975 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:11.439 blowout pussy Sail in January? Deep dish pussy it's such 1976 01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:12.279 a gross term. 1977 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.760 Well, one of us was trying to fuck a pizza, Dan. 1978 01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:25.239 Say, I was answering the question like a gentleman. Mary. 1979 01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:26.880 Can you read the next one while I work on that? 1980 01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:30.600 Yes, I don't want to people just scob it up. 1981 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:32.960 And happy twenty five. 1982 01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:37.760 Please quash this between my fiance and I once and 1983 01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:41.920 for all. Is banana bread considered bread or cake? I 1984 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.920 say cake? He says bread. Best Cammy, Thanks Cammy. I 1985 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.720 think this is a convoluted question because the name of 1986 01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:53.600 the item in questions says bread, so thus you might 1987 01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:55.159 say it's bread. 1988 01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:55.840 Yeah. 1989 01:30:55.960 --> 01:31:00.119 But to Cammy's point, if you were to eat this, 1990 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:03.680 you would not eat like a slice of banana bread 1991 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:08.520 like you would a slice of regular bread, because it's not. 1992 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.399 Really just a slice of bread, uh, you know, for 1993 01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:16.279 breakfast like with you. Yeah, but you put stuff on 1994 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:16.800 it or. 1995 01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:18.600 Like you put like you like dip it in soup 1996 01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:20.319 or something, you know what I mean, Like you would 1997 01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:23.520 never have No, That's the thing. That's why I think 1998 01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:27.520 it might be cake because bread is something that you 1999 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.359 like dip with soup or you make a sandwich out 2000 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.039 of it. I would never fucking make a sandwich out 2001 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:33.960 of banana bread. That's crazy town. 2002 01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:38.840 So it is kind of cake, like I I can't 2003 01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.520 argue with the name. It's it's banana bread. It's right there. 2004 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:43.800 It's like Super Alier World two, Yoshi's Island, It's just 2005 01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:44.520 right there in the name. 2006 01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:47.800 I think I can I I wouldn't I have banana 2007 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.720 bread as dessert. I make it a couple times a 2008 01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:55.399 year when I'm running out of bananas. It's iconic to 2009 01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:58.439 have with like breakfast. If you put some butter on 2010 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.720 it as like a little swim we eat treat in 2011 01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:07.079 the morning or after dinner treat. But it's not a 2012 01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:12.119 bread situation. However, it does rise like bread. Mike, don't 2013 01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.239 you make banana bread all the time? I think you 2014 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:15.359 have to be the tiebreaker? 2015 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.239 Uh yeah, sorry, it's distracted. 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I think. 2098 01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.840 All right, let's hear it for Cammy, was right? 2099 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:40.800 Mag you Cammy? All right? 2100 01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:44.439 Uh My, this is from Nathan. My new year's resolution 2101 01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:46.560 is to reach one thousand albums listened to by the 2102 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.960 end of twenty twenty five. I started keeping track of 2103 01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:50.800 everything I listened to a couple of years ago, and 2104 01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.039 I'm at about six hundred right now, so aiming for 2105 01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:56.279 four hundred total in twenty twenty five, still very tall. 2106 01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.119 Order any album recommendations that are personal favorites of yours, 2107 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:01.279 I'm curious. But besides the few bands I've already heard 2108 01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:04.600 you mention, eg. Queens of the Stone Age, talking Heads, 2109 01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:13.680 what are interested in musically? My Spotify Unwrapped was ass 2110 01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:17.600 of my favorite albums well the last decade is Evil 2111 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:19.079 Friends by Portugal Demand. 2112 01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:21.800 I think it's a perfect album. I don't think there 2113 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:25.279 are any flaws on it. It's also just listening through 2114 01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:29.880 it front to back. It's an incredible not super long. 2115 01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:35.279 I want to say forty five minutes tops great album, 2116 01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:36.000 Evil Friends. 2117 01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:39.600 I'll say the same one that I bought Ben Hansen 2118 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:41.039 for the min Max video where you sent me to 2119 01:37:41.079 --> 01:37:43.520 a record store, and that's How Big, How Blue, How 2120 01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:46.760 Beautiful by Florence the Machine. I think all of their 2121 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.159 albums are incredible, but this was the one that got 2122 01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:52.279 me introduced to her and the band, and I just 2123 01:37:52.359 --> 01:37:55.000 think even to the first two tracks are just absolutely incredible, 2124 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:57.000 and the rest of the album is great too, and 2125 01:37:57.239 --> 01:37:58.239 all the other ones are awesome. 2126 01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.680 Probably have mentioned this before, but my favorite album that 2127 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:07.439 I always go to is the Machinarium soundtrack by Thomas Devorak, 2128 01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.399 and I think it's absolutely brilliant. 2129 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.279 I think it is so lovely and it really does 2130 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:15.039 capture a. 2131 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:20.520 Combination of musical ingenuity but also just like strange mechanical 2132 01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:25.960 sounds like tones. It sounds like somebody was like hitting pipes, 2133 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:29.399 and I I just love the way that it makes 2134 01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:32.439 me feel. And most of the time when someone asks 2135 01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:34.479 me what I should listen to if I'm in their car, 2136 01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:37.239 I asked them to put that album on. 2137 01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:38.319 Nice. 2138 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:41.439 Yeah, I find it calming. I also listened to it 2139 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.359 in the airport. It's like the only thing that I 2140 01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:45.840 want to listen to when I'm in the airport. I 2141 01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:46.319 don't know why. 2142 01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:48.119 Yeah. 2143 01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:50.880 Oh, And if they're looking for other albums, my brother 2144 01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:52.960 in law, Tom Minda, who did the theme song for 2145 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:55.760 this podcast, check out his man Thank You Scientists, And 2146 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.399 they put out a double album called Terraformer a few 2147 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:00.720 years ago that check out a proud rock. 2148 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.840 Oh, how lovely, Oh, let me do it, Let Me 2149 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:05.760 do one? Yeah, you do. 2150 01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:09.399 One one of my favorite bands, Future Islands Samuel Herrings 2151 01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:13.720 singing is incredible. They've got many good albums. I'd say 2152 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:15.600 if you want to listen to one, that every single 2153 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.079 song is a banger. The album is literally just called singles. 2154 01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:20.159 If you've heard a song by them, it might be 2155 01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:22.279 Seasons Waiting on You. That's the one that they kind 2156 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.119 of blew up on because they went on Letterman and 2157 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:27.720 he just went it's. 2158 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.239 A really good song. I think Bono called it a miracle. 2159 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.800 I don't know if you take Bono's word with anything 2160 01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:35.159 with a grain of salt these days, but that singles. 2161 01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:37.760 Their album is literally just a bunch of like one 2162 01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:41.159 off incredible singles. But twenty twenties As Long as You 2163 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:43.279 Are is one of my favorite albums by them. 2164 01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:45.720 Ture is that let the yell at them about the dance. 2165 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:48.640 He's like, give me all that you got. Yep. He's like, 2166 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:53.079 whoh oh yeah, it's you got. Yeah. But as Long 2167 01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:55.199 as You Are is there is more of a cohesive album. 2168 01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:57.159 But I'm not saying that in like an you know, 2169 01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.199 up their own ass way. They're all really good songs. 2170 01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:02.680 It's just more there's more like pacing variations as opposed 2171 01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:05.520 to just like catchy song after catchy song after catchy song. 2172 01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:06.479 Cool. 2173 01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:09.760 I think it's like there's so many good albums, and 2174 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:11.439 what a cool is that? 2175 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:13.760 Like a New Year's resolution to see I just think 2176 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.000 that's a really neat resolution. Most of the time resolutions 2177 01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:19.159 are boring, like I'm gonna drink less, I'm gonna better myself. 2178 01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:21.039 I love the ones where it's just like I'm. 2179 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:25.560 Going to eat everything off of the cheesecake Factory menu. 2180 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.279 In twenty twenty five, and it's like, God, bless you. 2181 01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:32.239 You know you found something that makes you happy, and 2182 01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:34.439 like listening to that many albums I think will be 2183 01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:37.319 very enjoyable and I am. 2184 01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:38.079 Happy for you. 2185 01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:41.079 I was gonna say that would be three a day, 2186 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.039 but I think they're saying a thousand total, and no, 2187 01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:46.439 Nathan was saying that they're at six hundred right now. 2188 01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.880 It wants to hit a thousand four this year to 2189 01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:51.880 finish slightly over one a day. 2190 01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:52.960 Yeah, that's a lot. 2191 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:54.800 Yeah, I think that's great. 2192 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:58.560 I mean, I'm sure there's other like valuable albums I'm 2193 01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:00.439 trying to think of, like ones that the thing is 2194 01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:01.760 is like a lot of times I'm always like this 2195 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:03.960 is an incredible artist, or like you're gonna really love 2196 01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:07.479 this song. It's not often that I'm like, this album 2197 01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:10.239 is a work of art. That is something that I 2198 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:14.439 think that I personally just don't think I'm as successful 2199 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:17.239 at recommending. There's not a lot of times where I 2200 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:20.439 listen to a very specific album from beginning to end 2201 01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:23.199 because I think it's so important and I'd like to 2202 01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:24.079 get better at that. 2203 01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:27.239 So it's kind of like a nice push for me 2204 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:30.840 to like be a more learned person. 2205 01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:35.479 Yeah, and if you're gonna sorry about my coughing, if 2206 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.239 you've definitely heard me talk about Talking Heads often. 2207 01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:40.279 They're my favorite band of all time. 2208 01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:43.079 But I do think Speaking in Tongues their album is 2209 01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:45.640 probably my favorite, which is not an uncommon opinion, but 2210 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:49.000 I do think it's just incredible. Gets very weird, but 2211 01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:50.119 it just. 2212 01:41:52.119 --> 01:41:52.560 Makes me. 2213 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:55.800 I go through like eighteen moods listening to that album. 2214 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:59.119 But like David Byrne, his songwriting is incredible. 2215 01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:00.600 The whole band is just like. 2216 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.640 Goes between like really ethereal songs and all of a 2217 01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:08.520 sudden these weird paranoia songs that just kind of like 2218 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:12.239 the guitar is doing one thing and then like Jerry 2219 01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:14.199 Harrison's doing one thing that you got, Tina Weymoth is 2220 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:16.439 playing completely different song, but it's still somehow all works 2221 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:19.800 just melts together in an amazing way. 2222 01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:20.479 I love that album. 2223 01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:21.720 Oh wait, I got one. 2224 01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:25.600 When I'm in a mood and I need to like 2225 01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:30.199 listen to something, I usually go for an album and 2226 01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:32.640 it's Pantera Vulgar Vulgar. 2227 01:42:32.399 --> 01:42:35.000 Display of Power. Great cover too for that album. 2228 01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:41.159 That dude, it's actually a fantastic album from beginning to end. 2229 01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:43.199 That's probably the only one I can think of off 2230 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.840 the top of my head where it's like, damn, what 2231 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.760 a solid piece of art that will make you rage 2232 01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:53.239 in your car if needed, or sleep peacefully depending on 2233 01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:56.600 your mental I just think that Vulgar Display of Power 2234 01:42:56.720 --> 01:42:57.920 is incredible. 2235 01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:01.039 So please put that on your list if you walk. 2236 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:03.880 Oh well, a good one. 2237 01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:06.279 There's so many there's so many good ones on it. 2238 01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:09.960 And it's also just like this love is actually like 2239 01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:13.600 so beastie. It's so beast moode I love. I love 2240 01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:14.800 a lot of songs on that one. 2241 01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:18.439 So yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yea yeah yeah yeah all right, Well, 2242 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:23.239 good luck to Nathan. Let us know how that's going. 2243 01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:28.279 That's our show. As we mentioned before, Firescape cast at 2244 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:30.159 gmail dot com. If you want to have questions right 2245 01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:32.399 on the show, we got a bunch, but keep them coming. 2246 01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:35.000 We always love having a selection to pick from the 2247 01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:37.439 beginning before we record each episode, and they're. 2248 01:43:37.279 --> 01:43:39.319 Fun to read, even if we don't actually end up 2249 01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:42.079 answering them. We're like, that's funny, and like we read 2250 01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:43.600 them all. We read every email. 2251 01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:44.439 Yep. 2252 01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:46.640 And if you want to become a patron, because you 2253 01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.600 want to just have every episodes or the video version 2254 01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:51.760 if you're not already watching the video version and seeing 2255 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:54.039 Gizmo by in a creep in the dance background, or 2256 01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:56.319 my cat's showing up, or sometimes Simo Onal It's been 2257 01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:59.479 a while since I've seen Simon. You can go to Yeah, 2258 01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:00.920 you can go to or if you watch Tree like 2259 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:02.560 a tip jars, you appreciate what we do, you can 2260 01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:05.560 go to deep Dish pussy dot com and to become 2261 01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:06.119 a patron. 2262 01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:11.000 Uh so, uh yeah, have fun with that. I regret 2263 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.840 saying that, Uh we should make a bumper stickers. It's 2264 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:15.399 just a deep dish. 2265 01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:19.920 No, we will not impact fond no fires Cape anything 2266 01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:25.119 impact fun. Yeah, black background, white, impact font, all caps, 2267 01:44:25.199 --> 01:44:26.319 deep dish pussy dot com. 2268 01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:30.359 Nothing else we need to sell that it's. 2269 01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:32.479 An image of damn trying to fuck a pizza. 2270 01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:37.600 No, no, no, it needs to be simple simplicity here here, 2271 01:44:37.800 --> 01:44:38.640 like the. 2272 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:45.800 Kerber baby what what wait, know, the one where. 2273 01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:49.000 It's a baby and it's like it's like getting suntan 2274 01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:52.399 lotion on. It's just that's the copper tone, the copper 2275 01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:53.359 tone baby. 2276 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:54.720 And they're like a dog pulling the pants down. 2277 01:44:54.880 --> 01:44:56.359 So yeah, something like that. 2278 01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:59.720 Okay, sous would be the underparts and the dog would 2279 01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:00.279 be a pizza. 2280 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:04.079 Well no, the dog isn't there, and there's a pizza. 2281 01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:09.760 But you're like, oh, I'm being sassy about it. Okay, Yeah, oops, 2282 01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:14.680 fuck the pizza that bumber sticker. Oops, comma fucked the 2283 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:18.000 pizza caps impact font. 2284 01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:24.279 With dance face. No, just the text, no dance face. 2285 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:33.600 Dan Reichert's face and name and social security number and 2286 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:34.800 a list of his fears. 2287 01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:40.439 All right, Yeah, it's still redirecting, but we'll have it. 2288 01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:42.560 It'll be deep dish Pussy will be up and up 2289 01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:43.039 and at him. 2290 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:44.680 Oh my god, I can't. 2291 01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:47.640 As of this as of this episode going on there. Yeah, 2292 01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:51.920 we watched the final season of What We Do in 2293 01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:57.079 the Shadows. They they go hard on what's his name? 2294 01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:01.520 Part Prosy. Yeah, they they go really hard on Colin Robinson. 2295 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:03.840 It's a really good season. I love that show. I'm 2296 01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:05.600 gonna miss it. I'm gonna keep rewatching it, though. 2297 01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:08.000 If you they ended it, I think they ended it 2298 01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:10.399 Dan on Time. I will say that. 2299 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:12.640 I will say this with like so much respect. I 2300 01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:15.119 absolutely adore that show. It was time, and I'm and 2301 01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:17.319 I'm glad that they that they ended it. But I 2302 01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:20.920 also think it I will miss it too, but it 2303 01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:22.039 was ready, Dan. 2304 01:46:22.279 --> 01:46:25.199 I honestly, next time you have a gap, it's six seasons. 2305 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:26.359 You don't have to watch all them with their twenty 2306 01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:27.039 minute episodes. 2307 01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:30.159 It's not long and it's funny. In eleven episodes of seasons, 2308 01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:32.680 I think twenty minutes that a good treadmill show once, 2309 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:33.680 you know, with Seinfeld here. 2310 01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:36.920 Right when I thought I was annoyed and done with mockumentaries, 2311 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.239 Taikawai TD and Jamaine Clement from uh you know who? 2312 01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:41.720 Taekwa Jamaine Clement. 2313 01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:43.680 Yeah, those guys don't really know Taekwa TD. I know, 2314 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:47.279 Jamaine Clement, tew Jojo. I don't think I've seen any 2315 01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:47.720 of this stuff. 2316 01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:51.000 New Zealand crew they they did the movie with three 2317 01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:53.000 guys back in the day. Jamae Clement was one of 2318 01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:55.079 the vampires, but living in a house, and I think, 2319 01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:59.920 uh Auckland or no, what's a Wellington? 2320 01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.520 Maybe I don't know. In New Zealand now started the 2321 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:06.640 movie and didn't love it. Is that's way drier. That's 2322 01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:13.039 very much like the British Office to Yeah, I don't know. 2323 01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:16.239 Check it out, watch like a few episodes. There's four. 2324 01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:19.399 I loved the movie vampires living in Staten Island and 2325 01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:22.960 in this mission, in this mansion. But I think Mark 2326 01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.039 Prokes take Colin Robinson takes a few episodes to come along. 2327 01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:28.760 But I give it a shot. If it's twenty minutes long, 2328 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:29.720 that's easy take. 2329 01:47:29.960 --> 01:47:32.079 It takes a couple episodes for you to get adjusted 2330 01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:35.119 to them. I think that is fair like it graded 2331 01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:36.800 on me at first and then I fell in love 2332 01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:37.039 with it. 2333 01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:38.600 It's six. I love to write it. 2334 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:41.399 I like all the characters, like Nausea. I think Laslow 2335 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:43.800 is fucking hilarious. Matt Barry is incredible in it. I 2336 01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:46.840 never watched the IT crowd, but he's just great and 2337 01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:49.920 everything also Matt Berry. If you're talking about music, his 2338 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:53.119 music is incredible. He plays like this blues jazz kind 2339 01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:57.960 of like uh, I don't even know, like punky music, 2340 01:47:58.079 --> 01:47:59.239 and it's it's incredible. 2341 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:01.920 Look up Matt Berry on Spotify. I don't think I've 2342 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:02.840 seen him anything. 2343 01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:05.319 You'd recognize his face. I think he's in the it crowd. 2344 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:07.640 He's been in a bunch of movies, but he's very British. 2345 01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:11.359 But he's Laslo Cravensworth in What We Do in the Shadows. 2346 01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:12.239 He's really funny. 2347 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:13.199 No, I haven't seen this guy. 2348 01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:17.880 There's like YouTube compilations of how he mispronounces things and 2349 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:19.479 what we do in the Shadow and then Nandor the 2350 01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:21.199 Relentless is really fucking funny too. 2351 01:48:22.159 --> 01:48:27.039 New York City, you were the most davious busted in 2352 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:33.439 New York City. Yeah, the emphasis on the last syllable. 2353 01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:36.279 No matter what he says. When he goes he goes 2354 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:39.119 into hiding in Arizona and he just puts the toothpick 2355 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:40.880 in and his wife doesn't recognize him anymore. 2356 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.600 And he's got the southern accent. He's like, that's just 2357 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:48.680 the way we talk him Tucson, Arizonia. Anyway, I could 2358 01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:50.159 go forever. The show's really funny. 2359 01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:50.319 Check. 2360 01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:52.239 I could go forever baby, I could go. 2361 01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:56.800 For every baby. You got me all wrong? All right, 2362 01:48:57.439 --> 01:48:57.960 that's deep dish. 2363 01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:00.720 Pushy dot com to be a patron fires merch dot 2364 01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:02.319 com to get some sweet threads. 2365 01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:06.199 We don't have bumper stickers yet. We should get some, uh, 2366 01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:08.319 and then we will be back in two weeks of 2367 01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:11.239 episode ninety nine. Guys, we got ape again. I talk 2368 01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:12.520 about episode Oh. 2369 01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:14.880 Yeah, let's get We'll get a plan locked in by 2370 01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:17.279 the time we record the next episode, so we plug 2371 01:49:17.359 --> 01:49:17.840 it properly. 2372 01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:20.960 Yes and yeah, and in two episodes we'll be dropping 2373 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:26.000 a fat Benjamin on everybody, so looking forward to that. Yeah. Anyway, Mary, 2374 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:28.119 what do you have going on outside of fire Escape Cast? 2375 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:32.560 I am still playing Silent Hell every Monday and on 2376 01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:35.359 Twitch and I enjoy that. And you can find me 2377 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:38.800 doing updates in other places with my name Mary Kish. 2378 01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:40.159 There we go. It works. 2379 01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:44.199 It's official day you join bomb dot com to start 2380 01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:46.159 a new season of Blake Club. I'm dressing up like 2381 01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:48.960 a terminator currently and playing a bad Terminator three game, 2382 01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:51.800 so and then I have play another game after that's 2383 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:54.159 out of that Twitch Instagram, Blue Sky Dan Reichert. 2384 01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:58.680 That's where I am everywhere. Cool, I'm here, that's about it. 2385 01:49:59.239 --> 01:49:59.399 Oh. 2386 01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:04.479 Actually I officially started wine certification classes. Did I tell you? Yeah? Yeah, 2387 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:07.600 I secretly do this and try to become a super 2388 01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.000 wine guy before you, I would never talk about it 2389 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:13.880 as one of the never He's. 2390 01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:16.159 Like, I never fucking went into a class. Every time 2391 01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:18.239 I went to my teacher and was like, hey, I 2392 01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:20.279 drank wine while I wasn't here, so. 2393 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:22.560 Why just give me an au little bitch? And then 2394 01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:24.399 the teacher was like, sure, I don't give a fuck 2395 01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:27.479 about myself. Yeah, but anyway, I can't tell you their 2396 01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:28.399 name because I drank. 2397 01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.520 I had a few of them. Yeah, oh cool, you're 2398 01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:32.239 your level three. 2399 01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:33.960 Here's your certificate, but you can tell me it's a 2400 01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:35.199 red wine because of the color. 2401 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:39.000 Doing w st T level three. Uh, I'm four that. 2402 01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.319 I'm sure that means nothing for is a diploma. I 2403 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:46.279 think I'll eventually do it, but that's I'm just gonna keep. 2404 01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:48.359 No. Master of Wine is the only thing above diploma 2405 01:50:48.439 --> 01:50:49.960 on that side. No, No, I got past that. 2406 01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:53.640 I'm king of wine. 2407 01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:58.520 What's the chief great varietal in sancer in France? Uh? 2408 01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:01.319 They don't look you have to get further, and it's 2409 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:03.720 like scientology. They don't tell you the real ship until later. 2410 01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:05.640 They took me out on a boat and they told 2411 01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:07.199 them they like the blood. 2412 01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:09.640 You accumulate too much insight. 2413 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:11.039 You have to pay a lot of money to get 2414 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:12.600 to the level I'm at and with knowledge, so I 2415 01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:13.680 can't just give it away for free. 2416 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.319 So okay, fair enough, very fair. I'll be there in 2417 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:18.000 a few years and then we'll hang out. We'll talk, 2418 01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.319 we'll talk wine, we'll talk the party. All right, Well 2419 01:51:21.359 --> 01:51:25.039 that's our episode. Everybody, thanks is always for hanging out. 2420 01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.760 We'll see you in a couple of weeks. Until then, 2421 01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:30.319 Happy New Year. 2422 01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:31.720 How many 2423 01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:00.159 Ye