1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive right in picture this July eleventh, twenty 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,759 twenty three. We're deep in the Peruvian Amazon, a remote 3 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:13,640 village called San Antonio Dipintoyaku. The air is thick, heavy, 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,559 not just with humidity, but with this palpable sense of dread. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,160 These villagers had been terrorized for. 6 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Weeks, absolutely just imagine living like that. They were desperate, 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,679 so they started organizing patrols, trying to protect themselves. 8 00:00:25,679 --> 00:00:29,559 Speaker 1: And then it happens, suns dipping below the trees, jungle 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,119 getting dark, and suddenly this absolutely chilling scream just rips 10 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:34,719 through the air, pure panic. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The patrol reacts instantly, They rush towards the sound, 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,640 They see them, the attackers, and they just unload hunting rifle, shotguns, 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,960 whatever they could grab. 14 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:44,799 Speaker 1: Firing at point blank range. 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,759 Speaker 2: Right. That's what the report said, point blank. And this 16 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:49,600 is the moment the whole thing shifts from a local 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,920 tragedy to something deeply weird, technologically baffling, because the bullets 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,200 did nothing, absolutely nothing. Men who fired, they testified later, 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,520 the bullets just hit these figures as sparked, small sparks 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 against some kind of impenetrable black surface, no effect, zero. 21 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Wow. So right there, the normal explanations just evaporate. And 22 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:10,760 the description of these attackers it's like something out of 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,359 science fiction. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Completely. Witnesses consistently described them as huge, seven feet tall, 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,439 covered head to toe in these black armored suits, not 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,640 like anything they'd ever seen. 27 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: And the helmets massive elongated, which is these two glowing 28 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:29,840 yellow eyes staring out. That's the only feature they could see. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,359 Speaker 2: Malevolent is the word that comes up. And how they moved, No, 30 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:36,200 they didn't run. They stood on these small circular. 31 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Discs, disc shaped platforms, yeah, hovering silently about six feet off. 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,079 Speaker 2: The ground, and then when they left, just accelerated straight 33 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:47,400 up vertically into the night sky, disappearing without a single sound. 34 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: It's utterly bizarre. And these figures, they weren't just random attackers. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,519 The indigenous people there, they had a name for them, 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,959 didn't they. 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,159 Speaker 2: They did lose pilicaras the face Peelers, a chilling name 38 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,000 and one that, as we'll see, has a terrifying his. 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,079 Speaker 1: So that's our mission today. Really, we've got this pile 40 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:09,360 of source material, police reports, forensic details, these incredibly disturbing 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,680 eyewitness accounts, but also ancient Andean myths, official government denials 42 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:18,560 and some frankly unsettling overlaps with US military activity. 43 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Right, we need to conduct a proper deep dive. Move 44 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:25,479 past the easy oh it's aliens or they're just superstitious dismissal. 45 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:27,479 We need to look at the hard evidence, because the 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,439 evidence points to something terrifyingly real bodies are showing up 47 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:32,840 without faces. 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,599 Speaker 1: Surgically removed, not just animal. 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Attacks, exactly precise cuts that animals just don't make, and 50 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:43,039 technology being displayed that frankly shouldn't exist outside of very classified, 51 00:02:43,159 --> 00:02:45,000 very well funded military programs. 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: So that leaves us with the core question, the big 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,800 mystery we need to unpack. We've got three possibilities, three 54 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:51,759 really disturbing avenues to explore. 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: Is it an actual extraterrestrial event, an alien incursion like 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,919 some reports first suggested, Or is it. 57 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Something older, the resurrection of this ancient horror, the face 58 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:05,719 Peeler legend, but now armed with unbelievably advanced tools. 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Or the third possibility, maybe the most chilling, is this 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,719 a human operation, highly organized, ruthlessly efficient, using black budget 61 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:20,599 military tech, all hidden behind the perfect cover story. An 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,520 alien invasion that ensures no one believes the victims let's 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,479 dig into it. Because the story didn't just start in 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,240 twenty twenty three. 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,719 Speaker 1: That's a crucial point. The media frenzy focused on those 66 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:32,879 summer twenty twenty three attacks, the ones with a high 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,840 tech gear, But this methodology, the face peeling, it wasn't new. 68 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:41,400 Our sources showcase is bubbling up for well over a decade. 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,599 Speaker 2: Before that, ten years. Wow. 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, which suggests something more calculated than just random violence. 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,479 It points to consistent, specialized approach, maybe a long term 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,360 operation with a specific. 73 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,639 Speaker 2: Goal, and that consistency that's the key to maybe figuring 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,319 out the motive. Right. The earliest modern case we have 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,919 documented goes back to twenty thirteen. A man named one 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Servant's right. 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: His body was found floating in Lake Ameria. And initially, Okay, 78 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,039 maybe it's a drowning, maybe an animal attack. It's the 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Amazon after all. Plausible enough on the surface. 80 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:10,719 Speaker 2: Right, But the forensics told a different story, a much 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,280 darker one. Completely yeah, zero signs of drowning, no water 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,160 in the lungs, no other major trauma to the body, 83 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:19,399 no signs of a struggle that would cause death. But 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,000 his entire face was gone, meticulously removed, scraped clean, right, 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,759 down to the bone. 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: That's horrific and not just ripped off. 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,079 Speaker 2: No, no, And this is where we have to really 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,319 focus on the details. The medical examiner was clear it 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,839 wasn't a jagged wound, not crushing force, not decomposition. It 90 00:04:36,879 --> 00:04:40,079 was a precise cut, almost surgical, they said, around the 91 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:41,720 circumference of his neck and jawline. 92 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,399 Speaker 1: But the skeptics, they jumped on the location, right, Piranhas. 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: Of course, the easy answer is the Amazon must be Piranhas, 94 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,160 but that falls apart fast. Two major points kill that theory. First, 95 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:56,079 the autopsy Servantes died before even. 96 00:04:55,959 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: Enter the water, okay, so Piranhas couldn't have killed him exactly. 97 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: And second, attacks, while vicious are messy, they're opportunistic feeders. 98 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:07,439 They wouldn't just eat the face, leaving the rest relatively untouched. 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,279 And they definitely don't make clean, surgical style circular incisions 100 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:13,319 around the neck and jaw. That's just not how they operate. 101 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,879 Speaker 1: So the convenient explanation Amazon hazard, it just doesn't hold water, 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,680 pardon the. 103 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Pun, not at all. It forces you to accept that 104 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:25,879 whatever did this had a very specific reason for taking 105 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:29,639 the face and a very controlled, almost clinical method for 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,160 doing it. 107 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that this wasn't a one off, that 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,879 it happened again proves the pattern. 109 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: April twenty twenty three, so just a few months before 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,079 the big summer sightings, a young boy's body found in 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,360 the exact same area, same horrific detail, face gone, same 112 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:49,560 precise clean cuts. It confirmed this methodology was ongoing, deliberate, 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,680 not just a single isolated incident from a decade ago. 114 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: So this wasn't just about finding bodies anymore. The whole 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,079 thing escalated hugely escalated. 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: Ye leading up to that summer of twenty twenty three, 117 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920 the encounters became direct. People weren't just finding victims, they 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,160 were coming face to face with the perpetrators. And that's 119 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:06,279 when we get the first real look at the technology 120 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:06,839 they were using. 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: And the experience of Pablo Verdeal's September second, twenty twenty three, 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,639 that seems like a turning point in the witness accounts. 123 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely it crystallizes the technological aspect. He's just sitting with 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 his family on his porch near Pacuna Lake. It's about 125 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:21,319 seven in the evening. He sees this strange light maybe 126 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:23,720 fifty feet away, flickering between the trees, and. 127 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: It wasn't just a light No, it. 128 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: Results into one of those things, seven feet tall, black armor, 129 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:33,959 the glowing yellow eyes, and it's just hovering there above 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,160 the ground on that silent disc platform. 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,879 Speaker 1: Terrifying. So what did he do? 132 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: What would any father do? He grabs his shotgun, fires 133 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:44,399 at it. And this is crucial evidence about their defenses. 134 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,199 Speaker 1: The sparks again, exactly, the. 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: Pellets just hit the armor, produce a few little sparks, 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,800 and that's it. Harmless. The thing is completely impervious to 137 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,879 standard firearms. 138 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: But it didn't just ignore him. 139 00:06:55,319 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: It reacted instantly and brutally. It fired back. Pablo described 140 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:03,519 as a brilliant laser beam hit him square, knocked him 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,120 unconscious for hours, just out cold. 142 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:08,199 Speaker 1: A laser beam from this hovering figure. 143 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,079 Speaker 2: That's his estimony. And when he woke up hours later, 144 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:15,560 they were gone, just vanished, silently, ascended, leaving no trace. 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,839 Speaker 1: That immediate incapacitation, the high tech weapon, the bulletproof armor. 146 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:24,920 This pushes it way beyond typical criminal activity, doesn't it. 147 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,759 We're not talking about drug cartels with Ak forty sevens here, 148 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:28,560 not even close. 149 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: This points to military grade systems engineered for protection, for 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,160 a fence, for silent operation, things that require serious R 151 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:37,639 and D, serious funding. 152 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:39,959 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the suits people saw craft in 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,040 the sky at two, didn't they. 154 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Multiple reports described large silent ships, sometimes shaped like 155 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,040 an acorn apparently huh, which is a weirdly specific details. 156 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Torn shaped, how big. 157 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,959 Speaker 2: Estimated to be about the length of a private jet, 158 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,120 but wider, completely smooth hull, no wings, no propellers, no 159 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,680 visible means of propulsion, just flashing lights sometimes and utterly. 160 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,279 Speaker 1: Silent, silent flight for something that large, that's significant. 161 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: Hugely significant. It rules out conventional engines, rotors, jets to 162 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,120 get that kind of silent lift, especially for sustained flight. 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,759 You're looking at really advanced stuff, maybe highly sophisticated deducted fans, 164 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:18,399 maybe some kind of fuel effect propulsion, or well possibly 165 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,360 experimental electromagnetic system. 166 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:21,839 Speaker 1: So that needs a lot of power. 167 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Exactly immense continuous power, which again points away from makeshift 168 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:29,800 operations and towards something with serious infrastructure behind it. 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: And the main hotspot for all this activity, the place 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,960 where most reports originated was this village, San Antonio de Pintoyaku, 171 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,720 home to the Ikadu. 172 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: People, And you really have to understand the isolation here. 173 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:44,399 This isn't just slightly off the beaten path. It's a 174 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,159 ten hour boat ride downriver. 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Minimum, which makes it hard to get help, but also. 176 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: An ideal location if you don't want to oversight. Perfect 177 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,600 for clandestine activities, limited government reach, no media access unless 178 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 they make a huge effort. It's a blind spot. 179 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Leader there, Herod dea Villa. He was keeping records meticulously. 180 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: He documented report after report throughout that terrifying summer of 181 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,879 twenty twenty three, and the details were unnervingly consistent, the 182 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,519 same descriptions over and over seven feet tall, black armor, 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,120 elongated helmets, yellow eyes. But he added crucial details about 184 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,600 how they moved. He said they had red lights on 185 00:09:21,639 --> 00:09:24,039 the bottom of their feet or the discs they stood on, 186 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,159 which seemed to enable the silent. 187 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Hovering red lights on the feet and. 188 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,519 Speaker 2: Superhuman agility leaping clean over houses, obstacles, just vaulting over 189 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,919 things effortlessly. The only sound sometimes when they accelerated quickly, 190 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,039 was this faint mechanical hiss. 191 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Imagine living with that night after night. 192 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: It was paralyzing. The Villa described a community under siege. 193 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,759 They couldn't farm safely, couldn't hunt or fish, their simple defenses. 194 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,480 Their shotguns were completely useless against an enemy that could 195 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,080 just float silently overhead and was seemingly bulletproof. They were trapped. 196 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:00,919 Speaker 1: But the big question remained, why what did these things want? 197 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Until the attack on the young girl, Taliadias. 198 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Yes, her testimony, her survival. It changed everything. It provided 199 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,320 the single most critical piece of evidence about what these 200 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,200 attackers were actually doing, why they were there. 201 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: July eleventh, twenty twenty three, the same day as that 202 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,720 initial patrol encounter we talked about. This attack shifts the 203 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,120 focus from just terror to something specific and objective exactly. 204 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,879 Speaker 2: Tally was just fifteen. She was in her backyard, apparently 205 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,120 gathering food near her home, and the attack was silent, fast, 206 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:30,960 and ambush. How did she describe it, Less like a 207 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,120 random assault, more like well, she described it almost like 208 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,159 a procedure and interrupted medical procedure. She felt this rush 209 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,039 of air, turned around and there it was, the tall 210 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,399 figure hovering silently on its disc. 211 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: And then the second one instantly, yeah. 212 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: Moved incredibly fast, grabbed her from behind, covered her mouth. 213 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,519 She described the grip as unnaturally strong, too strong to 214 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,320 be just human muscle. 215 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: So just maybe powered armor enhancing strength. 216 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: It certainly points that way, and the official and see 217 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,279 the speed it suggests training coordination. The first thing they 218 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:09,000 did was incapacitate her chemically. Wow, a nasal syringe forced 219 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,440 it up her nose. She immediately smelled this sharp chemical odor. 220 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,960 Her vision blurred and she started losing consciousness very quickly, 221 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,320 a powerful, fast acting sedative clinical very Then, while she 222 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:23,440 was fading, they applied something cold to her face, like 223 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,080 a cream. It made her face go completely. 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,639 Speaker 1: Numb, prepping the area for surgery. 225 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it sounds like, numbing the target area, 226 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,480 probably constricting blood vessels to minimize bleeding. They were preparing 227 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,200 to do something to. 228 00:11:34,159 --> 00:11:36,919 Speaker 1: Her face, and then came the part that blows the 229 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,159 alien theory completely out of the water. 230 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: The voices. While she was semi conscious, disoriented, she clearly 231 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:48,519 heard them speaking, and crucially, she heard them speaking Spanish, not. 232 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,759 Speaker 1: Some alien language. 233 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: Spanish right, and even more specifically, she identified two distinct voices. 234 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:58,759 One had a local Peruvian accent, the other she described 235 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:01,840 it as an American accent, what the locals call a 236 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:02,759 gringo accent. 237 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: A local and an American working together. 238 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: That's what she heard. It immediately points towards a joint 239 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:12,399 human operation involving both local collaborators and foreigners. 240 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: What they said, that's the real smoking gun, Isn't. 241 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: It absolutely definitive? She heard the local voice speaking urgently 242 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,879 to the American accented one, saying, be careful, be careful, 243 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:24,120 and then the line that reveals everything. Don't use too much, 244 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:25,080 you'll ruin the flesh. 245 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: Ruin the flesh. Oh my god. 246 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: They weren't trying to kill her quickly or efficiently. They 247 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,120 were performing a delicate extraction. They were worried about damaging 248 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,480 the product, the flesh itself. That implies it has value, 249 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,440 commercial value. 250 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: They were harvesting her face. 251 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: That's the horrifying implication. And they had a tool for it. 252 00:12:42,039 --> 00:12:45,799 One of them produced this small device. It glowed. Talia 253 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,519 described it as sounding like a low. 254 00:12:47,399 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: Hum a laser scalpel. 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: That's the term she used, or how she perceived it. 256 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,080 She smelled burning tissue as they started cutting into the 257 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,799 side of her neck. It wasn't a knife. It was 258 00:12:57,879 --> 00:13:02,159 some kind of energy device making precise cuts, a targeted harvest. 259 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: How did she possibly get away? 260 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,759 Speaker 2: Pure terror and maybe adrenaline in that haze, she somehow 261 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:10,840 managed to get a hand free just for a second, 262 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,399 and shoved it under the helmet of one of the figures. 263 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,759 That brief struggle, that contact. Maybe it startled them, Maybe 264 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:19,639 it just gave her enough space to let out one 265 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,720 piercing scream, and that was the alarm. Villagers nearby heard it, 266 00:13:23,879 --> 00:13:27,039 knew something was terribly wrong, and came running with Machet's 267 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,799 tools whatever they had, and the attackers dropped her instantly, 268 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:32,480 didn't engage. The villagers, just shot straight up into the 269 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,960 sky and vanished, silent as always. 270 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: What did they leave behind? 271 00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:41,039 Speaker 2: No bodies, no dropped equipment, no human footprints, just two 272 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:45,559 perfect circular depressions pressed into the soft earth where their 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,200 hovering platforms had been resting. 274 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:51,759 Speaker 1: So Talia survived, scarred, traumatized, but she survived, and her 275 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:56,039 testimony it gave them the answer, the terrifying answer. 276 00:13:56,159 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: Yes, these invaders, whatever they were, they wanted human tissue, 277 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:04,960 specifically the face. They were quite literally the face peelers 278 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,559 los pellicaras. 279 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: Now, for us hearing this in the twenty first century, 280 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:12,120 it sounds utterly insane, like something from a horror film. 281 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,759 But you mentioned the Ikatu elders. For them, this wasn't 282 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:16,559 entirely new. 283 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,799 Speaker 2: Was it not the technology, obviously, but the act itself, 284 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,039 the face peeling, the taking of flesh. It resonated deeply, terrifyingly. 285 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,879 They immediately recognized the action, if not the method. They 286 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:27,720 called them Pishtaco. 287 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: Pishtaco. That's the ancient legend. 288 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Exactly, a legend, a bogey man that's been part of 289 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,000 their cultural memory, their deepest fears for over five hundred years. 290 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: Let's spend some time on that, because understanding the Pishtaco 291 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:41,519 legends seems crucial to grasping the potential motive here. However, 292 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,120 twisted Where did it come from? 293 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: It dates back to the fifteen hundreds, right around the 294 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,080 time the Spanish conquistadors arrived tearing through Peru looking for gold. 295 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,320 But the indigenous accounts say the Spanish weren't just after gold. 296 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,559 They were taking something else from the bodies. 297 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,799 Speaker 1: Of the desk, something other than treasure. 298 00:14:57,039 --> 00:14:57,759 Speaker 2: Human fat. 299 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,559 Speaker 1: Human fat. 300 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,799 Speaker 2: Why well, from the European perspective at the time, human 301 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,759 fat actually had uses. It was used in some traditional 302 00:15:04,799 --> 00:15:10,039 medicines for treating wounds, for curing leather, making salves, and crucially, 303 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,320 it was apparently highly valued for lubricating and maintaining fine 304 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,159 machinery including weapons. 305 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,919 Speaker 1: Okay, grim but practical from their viewpoint. But for the 306 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Andean people it. 307 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,399 Speaker 2: Was far, far worse than just grave robbing. It was 308 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,559 a profound spiritual violation and desecration. In their cosmology their worldview, 309 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:31,879 fat wasn't just tissue. It was seen as the locus 310 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,279 of life energy, the spiritual essence, almost the soul itself. 311 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,759 Speaker 1: So taking the fat was like stealing someone's life force. 312 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: Exactly robbing them of their identity, their connection to the afterlife. 313 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:47,120 It was the ultimate act of violation. This deep cultural trauma, 314 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:50,080 linked to the pale skinned invaders, gave birth to the 315 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:52,000 legend of the Pishtaka. 316 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:52,559 Speaker 1: Describe the legend. 317 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:55,639 Speaker 2: The Pischbaca was typically depicted as a pale skin figure, 318 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,120 often resembling a European, sometimes a priest or a traveler. 319 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,960 He hunted, usually at night, targeting isolated individuals. He carried 320 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,000 a long knife specifically for peeling away the skin and 321 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:09,759 harvesting the fat from his victims, which he then sold 322 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:12,360 or used for his own nefarious purposes. 323 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: A five hundred year old blueprint for what Talia DIA's experienced, 324 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,759 just with updated tools precisely. 325 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: The core act remains the same. But what's truly chilling 326 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,720 is how this ancient horror story seems to have transitioned 327 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:28,279 into a modern, verifiable and frankly disgusting criminal enterprise. 328 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,639 Speaker 1: This isn't just folklore anymore. 329 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: Not at all. This is where it gets grounded in 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,000 recent documented reality. In two thousand and nine, so predating 331 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,000 the Servantes case, even Peruvian police busted a criminal gang, 332 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:43,440 a sophisticated operation, and what they found was disturbing. 333 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: What did they have? 334 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,039 Speaker 2: Plastic soda bottles, ordinary leader soda bottles filled with rendered 335 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,600 liquefied human fat. 336 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:53,639 Speaker 1: Soda bottles, Yeah, filled with human fat. What were they 337 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:54,200 doing with it? 338 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: You were preparing to sell it on the black market, 339 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,840 specifically the European black market. Investigators dug into it trying 340 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,279 to figure out who would possibly buy this stuff. The 341 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,319 alleged destination high end. 342 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Cosmetics, cosmetics, you're kidding, human fat and face cream. 343 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,759 Speaker 2: That was the claim uncovered by the investigation, and the 344 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:14,519 price tag explains the motivation. The going rate allegedly for 345 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,839 this human fat on the black market was staggering thirty 346 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,559 six thousand US dollars per gallon. 347 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Thirty six thousand dollars a gallon per fat. 348 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: Why the rationale, according to source material on this bust, 349 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,599 is that some fringe elements in the high end, perhaps unregulated, 350 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,480 cosmetic world, believe human fat contains unique cellular components or properties, 351 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:37,440 maybe stem cells or growth factors, that can't be fully 352 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,319 replicated synthetically. They see it as the ultimate, if utterly 353 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,079 morally bankrupt ingredient for rejuvenation, for anti aging. 354 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,759 Speaker 1: So the ancient horror the pieshadaco legend, born from colonial trauma, 355 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,119 finds a new horrific life, feeding the modern obsession with 356 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,519 eternal youth and beauty. 357 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: It's a grotesque collision of ancient fear and modern vanity, 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,000 fueled by pure greed. Whether the tool is a sixteenth 359 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:06,319 century knife or a twenty first century laser device, the 360 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,920 underlying motive, the systematic harvesting of valuable human tiku, seems 361 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,640 disturbingly consistent, supported by both historical legend and modern criminal evidence. 362 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,079 Speaker 1: And this pattern of extraction of harvesting it wasn't just 363 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,759 limited to humans, right, there were related incidents nearby. 364 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: Yes, that adds another layer. If you look beyond the 365 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,880 direct human attacks, there are other strange occurrences in the 366 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,119 region that seem to fit a pattern of sophisticated biological harvesting. 367 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:33,960 Just days after the main wave of Pelicaris attacks, farmers 368 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,880 in a nearby village Okobamba found their sheep, all of 369 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,559 them dead. 370 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,799 Speaker 1: Killed by predators or something else. 371 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,039 Speaker 2: The injuries were weird, and they match a pattern that's 372 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:47,440 been documented chillingly across a vast area from the southwestern US, 373 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:50,039 places like New Mexico all the way down through South 374 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:53,440 America to Argentina. Often referred to in the context of 375 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,000 cattle mutilations, but it happens to sheep and other animals too. 376 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: What kind of injuries are we talking about? 377 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,519 Speaker 2: Highly specific and disturbingly clean, Typically two neat perfectly circular 378 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,799 holes grilled into the skull, The eye is precisely removed, 379 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:09,759 the brain often completely. 380 00:19:09,319 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Gone, drilled into the skull like. 381 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: With a surgical instrument, not shewed or ripped. And crucially, 382 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:17,559 there's almost never any blood at the scene, no sign 383 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,880 of struggle, no spatter, and usually no tracks left behind either, 384 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,960 no footprints, no vehicle. 385 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Tracks, bloodless trackless surgical removal of specific organs exactly. 386 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,799 Speaker 2: It suggests an operator with advanced technology capable of clean 387 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,119 rapid extraction, maybe using cauterization or energy weapons to seal 388 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,839 blood vessels instantly. Some researchers theorize it could be practice 389 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,000 runs testing extraction methods or tools on livestock before moving 390 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,559 on to human targets, or maybe harvesting animal organs for 391 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,480 related black markets. Either way, it points to a sophisticated, 392 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:53,880 non conventional actor operating in the region. 393 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have these terrifying encounters, Talia's testimony, the 394 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,119 Pichtaco connection, the fat for cor medics angle, the animal mutilations, 395 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,880 the village leader Hierra de Vila. He eventually called for 396 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960 help right using a satellite phone. 397 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: He did. He was desperate, pleading for military intervention for 398 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:13,519 protection for his people who were starving and terrified. Eventually, 399 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:16,400 some local police officers did make the journey up river to. 400 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,799 Speaker 1: Investigate, and their conclusion, given everything we've discussed. 401 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,079 Speaker 2: Predictable and frankly insulting. Their official explanation was swift, simple, 402 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,319 and completely dismissed all the high tech. 403 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: Evidence leming guess gold miners. 404 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Bingo the illegal gold miners. They claimed these sophisticated attackers 405 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,559 were just local miners wearing wait for. 406 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: Jet packs, jet packs, seriously. 407 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Seriously jet packs to scare the indigenous villagers off the land, 408 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:47,160 which conveniently was rumored to be rich in gold deposits. 409 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: Thus, flimsy doesn't even begin to cover it. 410 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: It's absurd, but it was neat, it was local, It 411 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,720 didn't involve admitting they couldn't explain or deal with advanced 412 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,960 technology or potentially international actors, and crucially, the international press, 413 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:02,599 eager for US narrative, largely bought it. It allowed the 414 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:06,079 authorities to basically close the case. Problem solved, just some 415 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,160 miners in jetpacks. 416 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: Okay, let's demolish that jetpack minor theory right now, because 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,599 it makes zero sense. 418 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,799 Speaker 2: It collapses instantly under the slightest scrutiny. First, the technology itself. 419 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,480 Let's talk real world jetpacks, the ones that actually exist 420 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:23,160 commercially or even as military prototypes. They're loud, right, extremely loud, 421 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,599 definitely loud, like a small jet engine strapped to your back. 422 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:31,039 They're also incredibly difficult to control, requiring extensive training, and 423 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:34,920 the flight time minutes We're talking maybe four to eight 424 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,759 minutes maximum on a full tank of fuel. Then you 425 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,680 need to land and refuel. 426 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:42,319 Speaker 1: Which is the exact opposite of what witnesses described completely. 427 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: They reported silent movement, hours of sustained hovering near the 428 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:50,720 village night after night, and superhuman agility leaping over houses. 429 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,599 You cannot do that silently for hours with bulletproof armor 430 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,480 in a current jetpack. It's physically impossible with known technology. 431 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: So the tech contradiction is blatant. What about the motive? 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Does the scaring villagers off gold rich Land idea hold up? 433 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,839 Speaker 2: Not really think about how illegal mining operations or cartel's work. 434 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,039 Their biggest asset is secrecy. They thrive by staying hidden, 435 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:16,920 operating in the shadows, avoiding attention while they extract resources 436 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:17,799 or move product. 437 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,799 Speaker 1: And these attacks were anything but subtle exactly. 438 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,559 Speaker 2: They were terrifying, spectacular, and drew immediate global media attention 439 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,440 to this remote corner of the Amazon. Why would a 440 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,200 group trying to secretly mine gold announce their presence to 441 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,759 the world with seven foot tall figures in futuristic armor 442 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:41,599 and silent flying machines. It's counterproductive. It invite scrutiny, police, military, 443 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,799 everything they want to avoid. 444 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,319 Speaker 1: Okay, so the tech doesn't fit the motive seems backward. 445 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,799 What about the location? Was it only happening near supposed 446 00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:51,680 gold deposits. 447 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: Nope, that's another nail in the coffin for the minor theory. 448 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,400 The attacks or sightings of similar figures weren't confined to 449 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,920 the remote jungle around San Antonio Dipintoyaku. They extended into 450 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,000 the city of Akitos. 451 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: Akitos. That's a proper city, right, population. 452 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:07,759 Speaker 2: Around thirty five thousand people, a significant urban center for 453 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,680 the region, and there are absolutely no gold deposits anywhere 454 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000 near Iktos. Yet there were documented sightings of one of 455 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:17,359 these armored humanoid figures climbing a rooftop in the city 456 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,759 at night. 457 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: What possible reason would a gold miner have for deploying 458 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,279 this kind of high tech suit in the middle of 459 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:24,559 a city with no gold. 460 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: None that makes any logical sense within their narrative. It 461 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:31,240 suggests the operation, whatever it was, had objectives beyond just 462 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,799 scaring people off one specific patch of land and one 463 00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:37,519 more piece of evidence. The villagers provided themselves the traps 464 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,599 right in their desperation, they tried fighting back. They set 465 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,880 up simple perimeter traps basically shotguns rigged with trip wires 466 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,440 around the village, and throughout July they heard them go 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,119 off at night, bang, a shotgun blast in. 468 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:53,079 Speaker 1: The darkness, meaning something or someone triggered. 469 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: The wire exactly. But here's the thing. Every single time 470 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:02,440 they went out the next morning to check cautiously. Nothing 471 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,640 no bodies, no blood stains, no discarded armor pieces, no 472 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,480 sign of anyone being hit or injured at all. Just footprints, 473 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:13,319 Just those weird footprints, mysterious oval shapes reportedly twice the 474 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,759 size of a normal human foot, consistent with the size 475 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:17,839 of the figures, perhaps the base of the hovering discs, 476 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240 but no evidence that the shotgun blasts had any effect whatsoever, 477 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,839 despite clearly being triggered. 478 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: So if it wasn't miners with jet packs and likely 479 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,799 was an alien speaking Spanish, where does that leave us. 480 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,920 It sounds like something far more organized, technologically advanced, and 481 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,119 well state level. 482 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,319 Speaker 2: That's the uncomfortable direction the evidence points. If we discount 483 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,880 the easy dismissive explanations, we have to consider actors with 484 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,240 access to resources and technology far beyond criminal gangs, which 485 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,839 leads us to the truly dark context surrounding disappearances in Peru. 486 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,799 Speaker 1: You mentioned a statistic earlier. 487 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: It's staggering, it's horrifying, nearly twelve thousand women and girls 488 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,319 go missing in Peru every single year, most of them teenagers, 489 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,200 and fewer than half are ever found or accounted for. 490 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Twelve thousand a year. That's an epidemic. That's not just 491 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:08,200 random crime. 492 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,079 Speaker 2: It suggests something systemic, large scale trafficking network, certainly, but 493 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,920 some investigators fear could also point to something even darker, 494 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:19,119 the systematic harvesting of human beings treated essentially as live 495 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,279 sit for biological materials. 496 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Which brings us back to the motive for the face peelers. 497 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:25,519 The black market exactly. 498 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,839 Speaker 2: The global black market for human organs is a multi 499 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,920 billion dollar industry. A single healthy human body, if harvested 500 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,200 for all its usable parts organs, tissues, bone, blood, can 501 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,920 theoretically be worth millions on this illicit market. 502 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: So if the Pella cars weren't just after the thirty 503 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,640 six thousand dollars a gallon face fat, but potentially involved 504 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,000 in a broader organ harvesting operation. 505 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,799 Speaker 2: Then the motive becomes terrifyingly clear and economically potent. Remote 506 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:56,880 villages like San Antonio de Pintoacu, with limited oversight and 507 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 vulnerable populations become ideal hunting ground. 508 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,759 Speaker 1: But again, the means traffickers and organ brokers, even wealthy 509 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,799 ones don't typically have silent hover platforms and laser scalpels 510 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,599 and bulletproof exoskeletons. Who does have that kind of tech? 511 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,079 Speaker 2: If we assume the attackers are human, the list is short, 512 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,160 primarily the military and intelligence agencies of major world powers 513 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 operating with black budgets shielded from public scrutiny. 514 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,279 Speaker 1: And this is where the timeline gets extremely uncomfortable. The 515 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720 US military connection undeniable. 516 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: It's not speculation, it's a documented fact. At the exact 517 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:34,079 time these Pellikars attacks were peaking, the US military was 518 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,200 conducting a major joint exercise called Resolute Sentinel twenty twenty three, 519 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,640 and where with its base of operations. 520 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: Aikido's Naval base, which is located just. 521 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,839 Speaker 2: Upriver from San Antonio to Pintoaco, right there in the vicinity. 522 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Okay, proximity is one thing, but the timing that's the kicker. 523 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,799 Speaker 2: The source material confirms eighty seven US Marines were physically 524 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,960 present boots on the ground conducting operations as part of 525 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,599 Resolute Sentinel in that region right up until July twenty 526 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,440 twenty three. 527 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: And the main wave of Pelicars attacks, including the one 528 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,519 on Talia Diaz begin. 529 00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: July eleventh, a two day gap, the major US military 530 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,680 presence pulls out, and two days later these high tech 531 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,680 assaults begin in earnest. That correlation is intense. 532 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: It demands an explanation and who was involved in this exercise? 533 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,559 Just marines? 534 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: No, it was a joint operation multiple US branches, including fascinatingly, the. 535 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: Space forces of force in the Amazon jungle. What were 536 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,119 they doing there? 537 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,839 Speaker 2: That's the multimillion dollar question, isn't it. Officially it's about 538 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:34,160 integrated training, but Space force involvement in jungle warfare training 539 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:38,400 raises eyebrows. It suggests interests in advanced surveillance from above, 540 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:42,519 maybe satellite support, maybe testing communication systems, or potentially even 541 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:46,799 deploying assets related to advanced aerial platforms, things that fly 542 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,480 high and see everything, or perhaps even operate quietly in 543 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,279 the atmosphere. 544 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: So, if we put this together, could the attacks have 545 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:58,640 been a field test using the exercises cover or perhaps 546 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,279 continuing covertly after the main exercise ended. 547 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,319 Speaker 2: It's a theory that suddenly makes the villager's descriptions sound 548 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,599 less like alien encounters and more like eyewitness reports of 549 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,720 bleeding edge military tech being tested in a permissive, unobserved environment. 550 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,039 Let's connect the dots. 551 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Okay, the silent hovering. 552 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: Experimental lift systems Advanced ducted fans are one possibility, quiet 553 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,559 compared to rotors, but electromagnetic propulsion or something similar involving 554 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,039 fuel effects could potentially offer near silent hovering if you 555 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,519 have the power source. Military black projects are where you'd 556 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:31,960 expect to find that kind of tech. 557 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,039 Speaker 1: The armour seven feet tall, bulletproof superhuman strength and agility. 558 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Sounds uncannily like the design goals for advanced combat exoskeletons. 559 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:43,680 The US military has been working on things like the 560 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,960 tallow Suit Tactical Assault Light Operator suit for years. The 561 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:52,440 concept is exactly that, a powered armored suit providing ballistic 562 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,160 protection and enhancing the sordier's speed, strength, and endurance. Seeing 563 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,920 sparks from shotgun pellets hitting it that fit. 564 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: Glowing yellow eyes. 565 00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Simple advanced night vision or thermal imaging goggles integrated into 566 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:08,640 a helmet display standard issue for high tech units operating 567 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,119 at night, looks like glowing eyes from the outside and 568 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:11,759 the weapons. 569 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,759 Speaker 1: The laser beam that knocked out Pablo, the laser scalpel 570 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,039 used on Talia. 571 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Directed energy weapons dws. I know these exist high powered 572 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,039 microwave or millimeter waves emitters. They can be used to 573 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,000 disable electronics detonate missiles, but scaled down they can absolutely 574 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:30,200 be used to cause intense pain, disorientation, and localized burns 575 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,799 on human skin by rapidly heating water molecules matches the 576 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,880 humming sound, the burning smell, the incapacitation effect. 577 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,839 Speaker 1: So the technology described by the villagers maps almost perfectly 578 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,960 onto known, albeit highly classified areas of military research and. 579 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,799 Speaker 2: Development, frighteningly well. And then you loop back to Talia's testimony. 580 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,319 The absolute lynchpin. 581 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,039 Speaker 1: The two voices local Peruvian American gringo accent. 582 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: Which screams joint operation, local assets providing ground knowledge, guidance, 583 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,640 maybe translation, working alongside foreign operators handling the high tech equipment. 584 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,799 The Amazon is the perfect laboratory, dense jungle, limited government oversight, 585 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,319 almost zero chance of independent media stumbling onto something they 586 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:16,319 shouldn't see, ideal for testing controversial tech, or perhaps for 587 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,559 running a highly profitable, deniable side operation like harvesting. 588 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: And this idea of using monsters or mimicking local legends. 589 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,680 It's not unprecedented for intelligence agencies, is it, there's a. 590 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: History here, a deeply disturbing history. Psychological operations or psyops. 591 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,319 Exploiting cultural fears is a documented tactic the CIA in 592 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:36,359 particular has used it. 593 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,039 Speaker 1: Tell me about the Philippines example that sounds relevant. 594 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: Chillingly relevant. Back in the nineteen fifties, the huckballa hap 595 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,920 or hucks or a communist insurgency gaining ground in the Philippines. 596 00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:49,839 Conventional tactics weren't working well in some areas, so the CIA, 597 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:54,960 specifically Edward Lansdale's SiOx unit, decided to leverage local folklore. 598 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Which legend did they use? 599 00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: The swan, a particularly terrifying creature in Filipino myth sort 600 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,319 of a vampire ghoul hybrid known for draining its victim's blood, 601 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:06,880 sometimes using a long prepasis like tongue. 602 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so how did the CIA mimic that horrifically? 603 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: Lansdale's team would stage ambushes. After a firefight, they'd find 604 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,680 a huck body punching the neck with two holes mimicking 605 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480 the oswang's bite, hang the body upside down to drain 606 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:22,400 all the blood, and leave it on the trail where 607 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,559 the next huck patrol would find. 608 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's monsters. 609 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,119 Speaker 2: It's brutal psychological warfare. The effect on the superstitious huckfighters, 610 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:32,039 finding their comrades drained of blood in the exact manner 611 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:36,079 of the Aatswang legend, was devastating. It broke morale, caused 612 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,599 defections and surrenders in ways that bullets hadn't. 613 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,519 Speaker 1: And Vietnam Operation Wandering Soul. 614 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,559 Speaker 2: Similar principle, different myth. The Vietnamese belief is strong that 615 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,319 the dead must be buried in their homeland to find peace, 616 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,079 otherwise their souls wander aimlessly. So US forces recorded these 617 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:58,039 incredibly eerie tapes, ghostly voices, whales, screams, sounds purported to 618 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:01,519 be the souls of dead Vietcong sould lamenting their fate, 619 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,319 calling out to their comrades, and. 620 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,079 Speaker 1: Broadcast them into the jungle at night. 621 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,839 Speaker 2: Exactly from helicopters or hidden speakers, trying to prey on 622 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,720 the soldier's fear and guilt convince them they were being haunted. 623 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,200 Reports suggest it was quite effective, unnerving the Viat con Apparently, 624 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,039 it even terrified Allied South Vietnese troops who heard it. 625 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: So if intelligence agencies have a documented history of faking vampires, 626 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,640 and ghosts to achieve military objectives. 627 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: Then the idea of deploying advanced technology exoskeleton silent flight 628 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,160 energy weapons to deliberately mimic the ancient Peruvian legend of 629 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440 the pishtaco face peeler suddenly seems less like sci fi 630 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:37,839 and terrifyingly plausible. 631 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,279 Speaker 1: It becomes a potential strategy. Drive people off land, facilitate 632 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:47,039 resource extraction or trafficking, conduct tests, all while ensuring the 633 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:51,319 victim's stories sounds so outlandish, so rooted in superstition, that 634 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:55,359 they're instantly dismissed by the wider world. The perfect cover. 635 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: Precisely the horrifyingly effective way to operate with impunity. 636 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,599 Speaker 1: So the official story was clearly inadequate, likely deliberately so. 637 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:09,880 The villagers were left terrified, isolated. But help did eventually arrive, 638 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200 didn't It Not from the government, though, No, it. 639 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,559 Speaker 2: Came from private citizens. In October twenty twenty three, a 640 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,279 few months after the peak of the attacks, a privately 641 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:22,359 funded expedition went in, led by an American investigator named 642 00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,880 Tim Alberino and crucially accompanied by a former US Marine, 643 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,799 Doug Thornton. What was their goal primarily humanitarian aid, but 644 00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,599 also to investigate first hand, to talk to the witnesses, 645 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,240 assess the situation, try to figure what was really going on, 646 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,000 since the official channels were clearly offering no answers. 647 00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: What did they find when they got there? 648 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,319 Speaker 2: What was the state of the village dire Alberino described 649 00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:48,079 a community living in constant fear. The men were patrolling, yes, 650 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,039 but with ancient, rusty shotguns, some barely functional. They had 651 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:56,319 desperately tried to clear the jungle, cutting down huge swathes 652 00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:58,720 of trees around the village perimeter just to get a 653 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880 better line of sight, to try and see these things coming. 654 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: Trying to defend against an enemy that floats silently overhead hopeless. 655 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: Pretty much. They were brave, they were determined, but they 656 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,840 were completely outmatched and lacked even basic defensive training against 657 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,679 a modern, technologically superior adversary. 658 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,679 Speaker 1: And that's where the former marine came in, Doug Thornton exactly. 659 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,519 Speaker 2: He couldn't give them advanced weapons, but he could give 660 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:25,159 them knowledge. He recognized their immediate need wasn't just guns, 661 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,760 but tactics. He spent time teaching the village men basic 662 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,480 patrol formations, how to move as a unit, safe weapon handling, 663 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,679 Apparently they were almost as much danger to each other 664 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,199 in the dark as the attackers were. How to set 665 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,519 up a basic defense. 666 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: Practical skills, giving them some agency. 667 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,559 Speaker 2: Back, tangible skills in the face of an almost unbelievable threat. 668 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,480 It was about giving them a fighting chance, or at 669 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,880 least a safer way to try and protect themselves. 670 00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:55,079 Speaker 1: And Alberino, the investigator, after speaking with everyone, interviewing dozens 671 00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:58,800 of witnesses, what was his conclusion. Did he believe them? 672 00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: He stated on a quivocally that he was convinced the 673 00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,480 villagers were telling the truth about what they saw, the 674 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,719 seven foot figures, the hovering, the armor, the yellow eyes. 675 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,039 He believed their descriptions were accurate accounts of their. 676 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,119 Speaker 1: Experiences, but he didn't think it was aliens. 677 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,639 Speaker 2: No. His conclusion after synthesizing all the information, including the 678 00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,480 Pieshtaco context in Talia's testimony, was that they were facing 679 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:26,679 a powerful, highly organized international human criminal network involved in 680 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,559 what he suspected large scale sex trafficking and organ harvesting. 681 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,079 He believed this organization had somehow gained access to extremely 682 00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,760 advanced technology, the kind usually associated with black budget military programs, 683 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,199 maybe even reverse engineered non human tech, though he focused 684 00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,079 on the human element, and. 685 00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: They were using this tech y to terrorize. 686 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,159 Speaker 2: The locals into submission or drive them out. The motive, 687 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,079 in his view, was profit, pure and simple, derived from 688 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,760 the horrific black market in human bodies and tissues. The 689 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,480 method was overwhelming technological terror and the alien app aspect. 690 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,480 That was the perfect cover story. 691 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,119 Speaker 1: The built in deniability. If witnesses describe something that sounds 692 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:10,000 like aliens, they're immediately dismissed as crazy or superstitious, allowing 693 00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,159 the real perpetrators to operate freely. 694 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: Exactly Alberino's conclusion, The story itself becomes the shield for 695 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,000 the operation. 696 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: So, bringing all these threads together, what's the strongest conclusion 697 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,159 we can draw from the available sources. 698 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 2: It seems overwhelmingly likely that the phase peelers, those pilicatas 699 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,400 are human actors, highly organized, technologically superior human actors. 700 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: The motive seems clear now grounded in both ancient legend 701 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,719 and modern black markets. 702 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,199 Speaker 2: Right the pushtaco legend provides the historical context for fat 703 00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:43,800 harvesting and the documented thirty six thousand dollars gallon trade, 704 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,320 plus the broader organ trafficking market provides a brutally clear 705 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,239 economic driver profit. 706 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: And the means the technology. 707 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,199 Speaker 2: Explained by access to advanced military or black market hardware, 708 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,880 silent lift systems, powered exos, skeletons, directed energy weapons. These 709 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,039 perfectly match the witness descriptions and explain the attackers' capabilities 710 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:08,000 in a way jetpacks or aliens simply don't. 711 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: And the most crucial takeaway, perhaps for anyone listening to this, 712 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,840 is how the very nature of the attacks creates its 713 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,800 own cover story. 714 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: Precisely, the alien angle, or even the jetpack minor story, 715 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,760 serves to immediately discredit the victims. These are isolated, often 716 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,159 indigenous people, easy to dismiss as unreliable or superstitious. It 717 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,000 allows the perpetrators, whoever they are, to operate with near 718 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,360 total impunity. They've turned a terrifying cultural nightmare into a 719 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,119 brutally efficient, modern, profitable industry built on human suffering. 720 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,599 Speaker 1: The official story isn't just wrong. It feels like a 721 00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,159 deliberate obfuscation, a lie to make a very complex, very 722 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,119 ugly problem just go away. 723 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: It certainly seems that way, whether the people in those 724 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,840 suits were rogue military testing tech off books, private military 725 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,320 contractors working for a shadowy corporation or sophisticated traffickers who 726 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,039 somehow acquired this gear human beings profiting from the terror 727 00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:05,559 and disappearance of other human beings. The technology is real, 728 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,320 the victims are real, and the potential profits are horrifyingly 729 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,280 very real. 730 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just quickly recap this incredibly dark journey we've taken. 731 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,920 We started with those screams in the jungle, the bullets 732 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,920 sparking off impenetrable armor. 733 00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: We track the horrifying consistency of the face peeling method 734 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,039 from Hans Servantes back in twenty thirteen, with those surgical cuts, 735 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,119 right up to the attempted procedure on Talia Dias in 736 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,320 twenty twenty three. 737 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: Confirmed by her hearing those two voices the local Peruvian 738 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,079 and the American Gringo speaking Spanish worried about ruining the flesh. 739 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,039 That detail is just bone chilling. 740 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 2: Then we connected it all back to the five hundred 741 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320 year old Pishtaco legend, the fat stealing entity born from 742 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,519 colonial trauma and saw its grotesque echo, and the modern 743 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:50,599 thirty six thousand dollars a gallon black market for human fat, 744 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,519 allegedly for cosmetics. 745 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,079 Speaker 1: We looked at the animal mutilations nearby, suggesting a wider 746 00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:00,519 pattern of sophisticated biological harvesting. And then we overlaid that precise, 747 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:05,960 undeniable timeline the major US military exercise Resolute Sentinel twenty 748 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,119 twenty three, involving Space Force operating right there, ending just 749 00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:11,679 two days before the attacks. 750 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,599 Speaker 2: Exploded, strengthening the theory that this could be a clandestine operation, 751 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,480 possibly military or intelligence linked, field testing advanced tech under 752 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,639 the perfect psychological cover of mimicking a local monster legend. 753 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:28,440 Drawing on historical precedents like the CIA's Oswung operations. 754 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: The inescapable conclusion from the sources seems to be this 755 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,079 is human evil amplified by technology that shouldn't be in 756 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,480 the hands it's in operating in a place where oversight 757 00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:39,760 is minimal and victims are easily ignored. The Amazon is 758 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239 a laboratory and its people as disposable subjects. 759 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,519 Speaker 2: Which leads us to the final, deeply unsettling question. A 760 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,760 provocative thought for you listening at home to really chew 761 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,199 on after this deep dive is over. 762 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,599 Speaker 1: If this kind of advanced terrifying technology is being deployed 763 00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:59,159 like this systematically brutally against defenseless people and remote, unmonitored 764 00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:00,000 parts of the Amazon. 765 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 2: What does that imply about other unexplained phenomena. Think about 766 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,880 the weird lights in the sky reported all over South America. 767 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,800 Think about those surgically precise animal mutilations from New Mexico 768 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000 to Argentina. Think about the tens of thousands who vanish 769 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,639 with it a trace every year across the continent. 770 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: Could some of these seemingly disparate bizarre events be connected. 771 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,960 Could they be manifestations of similar clandestine operations using advanced 772 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,239 tech under different covers. 773 00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: If the face peelers have successfully evolved from an ancient 774 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,119 legend into a high tech, profitable industry in Peru, it's 775 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,440 hard not to wonder if their business model or similar 776 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,440 ones might have a far wider and more terrifying global 777 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,639 reach than we currently imagine. The Monster, it seems, is 778 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,440 no longer just a story. It's an industry.