Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive right in picture this July eleventh, twenty
twenty three. We're deep in the Peruvian Amazon, a remote
village called San Antonio Dipintoyaku. The air is thick, heavy,
not just with humidity, but with this palpable sense of dread.
These villagers had been terrorized for.
Speaker 2: Weeks, absolutely just imagine living like that. They were desperate,
so they started organizing patrols, trying to protect themselves.
Speaker 1: And then it happens, suns dipping below the trees, jungle
getting dark, and suddenly this absolutely chilling scream just rips
through the air, pure panic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The patrol reacts instantly, They rush towards the sound,
They see them, the attackers, and they just unload hunting rifle, shotguns,
whatever they could grab.
Speaker 1: Firing at point blank range.
Speaker 2: Right. That's what the report said, point blank. And this
is the moment the whole thing shifts from a local
tragedy to something deeply weird, technologically baffling, because the bullets
did nothing, absolutely nothing. Men who fired, they testified later,
the bullets just hit these figures as sparked, small sparks
against some kind of impenetrable black surface, no effect, zero.
Speaker 1: Wow. So right there, the normal explanations just evaporate. And
the description of these attackers it's like something out of
science fiction.
Speaker 2: Completely. Witnesses consistently described them as huge, seven feet tall,
covered head to toe in these black armored suits, not
like anything they'd ever seen.
Speaker 1: And the helmets massive elongated, which is these two glowing
yellow eyes staring out. That's the only feature they could see.
Speaker 2: Malevolent is the word that comes up. And how they moved, No,
they didn't run. They stood on these small circular.
Speaker 1: Discs, disc shaped platforms, yeah, hovering silently about six feet off.
Speaker 2: The ground, and then when they left, just accelerated straight
up vertically into the night sky, disappearing without a single sound.
Speaker 1: It's utterly bizarre. And these figures, they weren't just random attackers.
The indigenous people there, they had a name for them,
didn't they.
Speaker 2: They did lose pilicaras the face Peelers, a chilling name
and one that, as we'll see, has a terrifying his.
Speaker 1: So that's our mission today. Really, we've got this pile
of source material, police reports, forensic details, these incredibly disturbing
eyewitness accounts, but also ancient Andean myths, official government denials
and some frankly unsettling overlaps with US military activity.
Speaker 2: Right, we need to conduct a proper deep dive. Move
past the easy oh it's aliens or they're just superstitious dismissal.
We need to look at the hard evidence, because the
evidence points to something terrifyingly real bodies are showing up
without faces.
Speaker 1: Surgically removed, not just animal.
Speaker 2: Attacks, exactly precise cuts that animals just don't make, and
technology being displayed that frankly shouldn't exist outside of very classified,
very well funded military programs.
Speaker 1: So that leaves us with the core question, the big
mystery we need to unpack. We've got three possibilities, three
really disturbing avenues to explore.
Speaker 2: Is it an actual extraterrestrial event, an alien incursion like
some reports first suggested, Or is it.
Speaker 1: Something older, the resurrection of this ancient horror, the face
Peeler legend, but now armed with unbelievably advanced tools.
Speaker 2: Or the third possibility, maybe the most chilling, is this
a human operation, highly organized, ruthlessly efficient, using black budget
military tech, all hidden behind the perfect cover story. An
alien invasion that ensures no one believes the victims let's
dig into it. Because the story didn't just start in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: That's a crucial point. The media frenzy focused on those
summer twenty twenty three attacks, the ones with a high
tech gear, But this methodology, the face peeling, it wasn't new.
Our sources showcase is bubbling up for well over a decade.
Speaker 2: Before that, ten years. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which suggests something more calculated than just random violence.
It points to consistent, specialized approach, maybe a long term
operation with a specific.
Speaker 2: Goal, and that consistency that's the key to maybe figuring
out the motive. Right. The earliest modern case we have
documented goes back to twenty thirteen. A man named one
Servant's right.
Speaker 1: His body was found floating in Lake Ameria. And initially, Okay,
maybe it's a drowning, maybe an animal attack. It's the
Amazon after all. Plausible enough on the surface.
Speaker 2: Right, But the forensics told a different story, a much
darker one. Completely yeah, zero signs of drowning, no water
in the lungs, no other major trauma to the body,
no signs of a struggle that would cause death. But
his entire face was gone, meticulously removed, scraped clean, right,
down to the bone.
Speaker 1: That's horrific and not just ripped off.
Speaker 2: No, no, And this is where we have to really
focus on the details. The medical examiner was clear it
wasn't a jagged wound, not crushing force, not decomposition. It
was a precise cut, almost surgical, they said, around the
circumference of his neck and jawline.
Speaker 1: But the skeptics, they jumped on the location, right, Piranhas.
Speaker 2: Of course, the easy answer is the Amazon must be Piranhas,
but that falls apart fast. Two major points kill that theory. First,
the autopsy Servantes died before even.
Speaker 1: Enter the water, okay, so Piranhas couldn't have killed him exactly.
Speaker 2: And second, attacks, while vicious are messy, they're opportunistic feeders.
They wouldn't just eat the face, leaving the rest relatively untouched.
And they definitely don't make clean, surgical style circular incisions
around the neck and jaw. That's just not how they operate.
Speaker 1: So the convenient explanation Amazon hazard, it just doesn't hold water,
pardon the.
Speaker 2: Pun, not at all. It forces you to accept that
whatever did this had a very specific reason for taking
the face and a very controlled, almost clinical method for
doing it.
Speaker 1: And the fact that this wasn't a one off, that
it happened again proves the pattern.
Speaker 2: April twenty twenty three, so just a few months before
the big summer sightings, a young boy's body found in
the exact same area, same horrific detail, face gone, same
precise clean cuts. It confirmed this methodology was ongoing, deliberate,
not just a single isolated incident from a decade ago.
Speaker 1: So this wasn't just about finding bodies anymore. The whole
thing escalated hugely escalated.
Speaker 2: Ye leading up to that summer of twenty twenty three,
the encounters became direct. People weren't just finding victims, they
were coming face to face with the perpetrators. And that's
when we get the first real look at the technology
they were using.
Speaker 1: And the experience of Pablo Verdeal's September second, twenty twenty three,
that seems like a turning point in the witness accounts.
Speaker 2: Absolutely it crystallizes the technological aspect. He's just sitting with
his family on his porch near Pacuna Lake. It's about
seven in the evening. He sees this strange light maybe
fifty feet away, flickering between the trees, and.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a light No, it.
Speaker 2: Results into one of those things, seven feet tall, black armor,
the glowing yellow eyes, and it's just hovering there above
the ground on that silent disc platform.
Speaker 1: Terrifying. So what did he do?
Speaker 2: What would any father do? He grabs his shotgun, fires
at it. And this is crucial evidence about their defenses.
Speaker 1: The sparks again, exactly, the.
Speaker 2: Pellets just hit the armor, produce a few little sparks,
and that's it. Harmless. The thing is completely impervious to
standard firearms.
Speaker 1: But it didn't just ignore him.
Speaker 2: It reacted instantly and brutally. It fired back. Pablo described
as a brilliant laser beam hit him square, knocked him
unconscious for hours, just out cold.
Speaker 1: A laser beam from this hovering figure.
Speaker 2: That's his estimony. And when he woke up hours later,
they were gone, just vanished, silently, ascended, leaving no trace.
Speaker 1: That immediate incapacitation, the high tech weapon, the bulletproof armor.
This pushes it way beyond typical criminal activity, doesn't it.
We're not talking about drug cartels with Ak forty sevens here,
not even close.
Speaker 2: This points to military grade systems engineered for protection, for
a fence, for silent operation, things that require serious R
and D, serious funding.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the suits people saw craft in
the sky at two, didn't they.
Speaker 2: Yes, Multiple reports described large silent ships, sometimes shaped like
an acorn apparently huh, which is a weirdly specific details.
Speaker 1: Torn shaped, how big.
Speaker 2: Estimated to be about the length of a private jet,
but wider, completely smooth hull, no wings, no propellers, no
visible means of propulsion, just flashing lights sometimes and utterly.
Speaker 1: Silent, silent flight for something that large, that's significant.
Speaker 2: Hugely significant. It rules out conventional engines, rotors, jets to
get that kind of silent lift, especially for sustained flight.
You're looking at really advanced stuff, maybe highly sophisticated deducted fans,
maybe some kind of fuel effect propulsion, or well possibly
experimental electromagnetic system.
Speaker 1: So that needs a lot of power.
Speaker 2: Exactly immense continuous power, which again points away from makeshift
operations and towards something with serious infrastructure behind it.
Speaker 1: And the main hotspot for all this activity, the place
where most reports originated was this village, San Antonio de Pintoyaku,
home to the Ikadu.
Speaker 2: People, And you really have to understand the isolation here.
This isn't just slightly off the beaten path. It's a
ten hour boat ride downriver.
Speaker 1: Minimum, which makes it hard to get help, but also.
Speaker 2: An ideal location if you don't want to oversight. Perfect
for clandestine activities, limited government reach, no media access unless
they make a huge effort. It's a blind spot.
Speaker 1: Leader there, Herod dea Villa. He was keeping records meticulously.
Speaker 2: He documented report after report throughout that terrifying summer of
twenty twenty three, and the details were unnervingly consistent, the
same descriptions over and over seven feet tall, black armor,
elongated helmets, yellow eyes. But he added crucial details about
how they moved. He said they had red lights on
the bottom of their feet or the discs they stood on,
which seemed to enable the silent.
Speaker 1: Hovering red lights on the feet and.
Speaker 2: Superhuman agility leaping clean over houses, obstacles, just vaulting over
things effortlessly. The only sound sometimes when they accelerated quickly,
was this faint mechanical hiss.
Speaker 1: Imagine living with that night after night.
Speaker 2: It was paralyzing. The Villa described a community under siege.
They couldn't farm safely, couldn't hunt or fish, their simple defenses.
Their shotguns were completely useless against an enemy that could
just float silently overhead and was seemingly bulletproof. They were trapped.
Speaker 1: But the big question remained, why what did these things want?
Until the attack on the young girl, Taliadias.
Speaker 2: Yes, her testimony, her survival. It changed everything. It provided
the single most critical piece of evidence about what these
attackers were actually doing, why they were there.
Speaker 1: July eleventh, twenty twenty three, the same day as that
initial patrol encounter we talked about. This attack shifts the
focus from just terror to something specific and objective exactly.
Speaker 2: Tally was just fifteen. She was in her backyard, apparently
gathering food near her home, and the attack was silent, fast,
and ambush. How did she describe it, Less like a
random assault, more like well, she described it almost like
a procedure and interrupted medical procedure. She felt this rush
of air, turned around and there it was, the tall
figure hovering silently on its disc.
Speaker 1: And then the second one instantly, yeah.
Speaker 2: Moved incredibly fast, grabbed her from behind, covered her mouth.
She described the grip as unnaturally strong, too strong to
be just human muscle.
Speaker 1: So just maybe powered armor enhancing strength.
Speaker 2: It certainly points that way, and the official and see
the speed it suggests training coordination. The first thing they
did was incapacitate her chemically. Wow, a nasal syringe forced
it up her nose. She immediately smelled this sharp chemical odor.
Her vision blurred and she started losing consciousness very quickly,
a powerful, fast acting sedative clinical very Then, while she
was fading, they applied something cold to her face, like
a cream. It made her face go completely.
Speaker 1: Numb, prepping the area for surgery.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it sounds like, numbing the target area,
probably constricting blood vessels to minimize bleeding. They were preparing
to do something to.
Speaker 1: Her face, and then came the part that blows the
alien theory completely out of the water.
Speaker 2: The voices. While she was semi conscious, disoriented, she clearly
heard them speaking, and crucially, she heard them speaking Spanish, not.
Speaker 1: Some alien language.
Speaker 2: Spanish right, and even more specifically, she identified two distinct voices.
One had a local Peruvian accent, the other she described
it as an American accent, what the locals call a
gringo accent.
Speaker 1: A local and an American working together.
Speaker 2: That's what she heard. It immediately points towards a joint
human operation involving both local collaborators and foreigners.
Speaker 1: What they said, that's the real smoking gun, Isn't.
Speaker 2: It absolutely definitive? She heard the local voice speaking urgently
to the American accented one, saying, be careful, be careful,
and then the line that reveals everything. Don't use too much,
you'll ruin the flesh.
Speaker 1: Ruin the flesh. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: They weren't trying to kill her quickly or efficiently. They
were performing a delicate extraction. They were worried about damaging
the product, the flesh itself. That implies it has value,
commercial value.
Speaker 1: They were harvesting her face.
Speaker 2: That's the horrifying implication. And they had a tool for it.
One of them produced this small device. It glowed. Talia
described it as sounding like a low.
Speaker 1: Hum a laser scalpel.
Speaker 2: That's the term she used, or how she perceived it.
She smelled burning tissue as they started cutting into the
side of her neck. It wasn't a knife. It was
some kind of energy device making precise cuts, a targeted harvest.
Speaker 1: How did she possibly get away?
Speaker 2: Pure terror and maybe adrenaline in that haze, she somehow
managed to get a hand free just for a second,
and shoved it under the helmet of one of the figures.
That brief struggle, that contact. Maybe it startled them, Maybe
it just gave her enough space to let out one
piercing scream, and that was the alarm. Villagers nearby heard it,
knew something was terribly wrong, and came running with Machet's
tools whatever they had, and the attackers dropped her instantly,
didn't engage. The villagers, just shot straight up into the
sky and vanished, silent as always.
Speaker 1: What did they leave behind?
Speaker 2: No bodies, no dropped equipment, no human footprints, just two
perfect circular depressions pressed into the soft earth where their
hovering platforms had been resting.
Speaker 1: So Talia survived, scarred, traumatized, but she survived, and her
testimony it gave them the answer, the terrifying answer.
Speaker 2: Yes, these invaders, whatever they were, they wanted human tissue,
specifically the face. They were quite literally the face peelers
los pellicaras.
Speaker 1: Now, for us hearing this in the twenty first century,
it sounds utterly insane, like something from a horror film.
But you mentioned the Ikatu elders. For them, this wasn't
entirely new.
Speaker 2: Was it not the technology, obviously, but the act itself,
the face peeling, the taking of flesh. It resonated deeply, terrifyingly.
They immediately recognized the action, if not the method. They
called them Pishtaco.
Speaker 1: Pishtaco. That's the ancient legend.
Speaker 2: Exactly, a legend, a bogey man that's been part of
their cultural memory, their deepest fears for over five hundred years.
Speaker 1: Let's spend some time on that, because understanding the Pishtaco
legends seems crucial to grasping the potential motive here. However,
twisted Where did it come from?
Speaker 2: It dates back to the fifteen hundreds, right around the
time the Spanish conquistadors arrived tearing through Peru looking for gold.
But the indigenous accounts say the Spanish weren't just after gold.
They were taking something else from the bodies.
Speaker 1: Of the desk, something other than treasure.
Speaker 2: Human fat.
Speaker 1: Human fat.
Speaker 2: Why well, from the European perspective at the time, human
fat actually had uses. It was used in some traditional
medicines for treating wounds, for curing leather, making salves, and crucially,
it was apparently highly valued for lubricating and maintaining fine
machinery including weapons.
Speaker 1: Okay, grim but practical from their viewpoint. But for the
Andean people it.
Speaker 2: Was far, far worse than just grave robbing. It was
a profound spiritual violation and desecration. In their cosmology their worldview,
fat wasn't just tissue. It was seen as the locus
of life energy, the spiritual essence, almost the soul itself.
Speaker 1: So taking the fat was like stealing someone's life force.
Speaker 2: Exactly robbing them of their identity, their connection to the afterlife.
It was the ultimate act of violation. This deep cultural trauma,
linked to the pale skinned invaders, gave birth to the
legend of the Pishtaka.
Speaker 1: Describe the legend.
Speaker 2: The Pischbaca was typically depicted as a pale skin figure,
often resembling a European, sometimes a priest or a traveler.
He hunted, usually at night, targeting isolated individuals. He carried
a long knife specifically for peeling away the skin and
harvesting the fat from his victims, which he then sold
or used for his own nefarious purposes.
Speaker 1: A five hundred year old blueprint for what Talia DIA's experienced,
just with updated tools precisely.
Speaker 2: The core act remains the same. But what's truly chilling
is how this ancient horror story seems to have transitioned
into a modern, verifiable and frankly disgusting criminal enterprise.
Speaker 1: This isn't just folklore anymore.
Speaker 2: Not at all. This is where it gets grounded in
recent documented reality. In two thousand and nine, so predating
the Servantes case, even Peruvian police busted a criminal gang,
a sophisticated operation, and what they found was disturbing.
Speaker 1: What did they have?
Speaker 2: Plastic soda bottles, ordinary leader soda bottles filled with rendered
liquefied human fat.
Speaker 1: Soda bottles, Yeah, filled with human fat. What were they
doing with it?
Speaker 2: You were preparing to sell it on the black market,
specifically the European black market. Investigators dug into it trying
to figure out who would possibly buy this stuff. The
alleged destination high end.
Speaker 1: Cosmetics, cosmetics, you're kidding, human fat and face cream.
Speaker 2: That was the claim uncovered by the investigation, and the
price tag explains the motivation. The going rate allegedly for
this human fat on the black market was staggering thirty
six thousand US dollars per gallon.
Speaker 1: Thirty six thousand dollars a gallon per fat.
Speaker 2: Why the rationale, according to source material on this bust,
is that some fringe elements in the high end, perhaps unregulated,
cosmetic world, believe human fat contains unique cellular components or properties,
maybe stem cells or growth factors, that can't be fully
replicated synthetically. They see it as the ultimate, if utterly
morally bankrupt ingredient for rejuvenation, for anti aging.
Speaker 1: So the ancient horror the pieshadaco legend, born from colonial trauma,
finds a new horrific life, feeding the modern obsession with
eternal youth and beauty.
Speaker 2: It's a grotesque collision of ancient fear and modern vanity,
fueled by pure greed. Whether the tool is a sixteenth
century knife or a twenty first century laser device, the
underlying motive, the systematic harvesting of valuable human tiku, seems
disturbingly consistent, supported by both historical legend and modern criminal evidence.
Speaker 1: And this pattern of extraction of harvesting it wasn't just
limited to humans, right, there were related incidents nearby.
Speaker 2: Yes, that adds another layer. If you look beyond the
direct human attacks, there are other strange occurrences in the
region that seem to fit a pattern of sophisticated biological harvesting.
Just days after the main wave of Pelicaris attacks, farmers
in a nearby village Okobamba found their sheep, all of
them dead.
Speaker 1: Killed by predators or something else.
Speaker 2: The injuries were weird, and they match a pattern that's
been documented chillingly across a vast area from the southwestern US,
places like New Mexico all the way down through South
America to Argentina. Often referred to in the context of
cattle mutilations, but it happens to sheep and other animals too.
Speaker 1: What kind of injuries are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Highly specific and disturbingly clean, Typically two neat perfectly circular
holes grilled into the skull, The eye is precisely removed,
the brain often completely.
Speaker 1: Gone, drilled into the skull like.
Speaker 2: With a surgical instrument, not shewed or ripped. And crucially,
there's almost never any blood at the scene, no sign
of struggle, no spatter, and usually no tracks left behind either,
no footprints, no vehicle.
Speaker 1: Tracks, bloodless trackless surgical removal of specific organs exactly.
Speaker 2: It suggests an operator with advanced technology capable of clean
rapid extraction, maybe using cauterization or energy weapons to seal
blood vessels instantly. Some researchers theorize it could be practice
runs testing extraction methods or tools on livestock before moving
on to human targets, or maybe harvesting animal organs for
related black markets. Either way, it points to a sophisticated,
non conventional actor operating in the region.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have these terrifying encounters, Talia's testimony, the
Pichtaco connection, the fat for cor medics angle, the animal mutilations,
the village leader Hierra de Vila. He eventually called for
help right using a satellite phone.
Speaker 2: He did. He was desperate, pleading for military intervention for
protection for his people who were starving and terrified. Eventually,
some local police officers did make the journey up river to.
Speaker 1: Investigate, and their conclusion, given everything we've discussed.
Speaker 2: Predictable and frankly insulting. Their official explanation was swift, simple,
and completely dismissed all the high tech.
Speaker 1: Evidence leming guess gold miners.
Speaker 2: Bingo the illegal gold miners. They claimed these sophisticated attackers
were just local miners wearing wait for.
Speaker 1: Jet packs, jet packs, seriously.
Speaker 2: Seriously jet packs to scare the indigenous villagers off the land,
which conveniently was rumored to be rich in gold deposits.
Speaker 1: Thus, flimsy doesn't even begin to cover it.
Speaker 2: It's absurd, but it was neat, it was local, It
didn't involve admitting they couldn't explain or deal with advanced
technology or potentially international actors, and crucially, the international press,
eager for US narrative, largely bought it. It allowed the
authorities to basically close the case. Problem solved, just some
miners in jetpacks.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's demolish that jetpack minor theory right now, because
it makes zero sense.
Speaker 2: It collapses instantly under the slightest scrutiny. First, the technology itself.
Let's talk real world jetpacks, the ones that actually exist
commercially or even as military prototypes. They're loud, right, extremely loud,
definitely loud, like a small jet engine strapped to your back.
They're also incredibly difficult to control, requiring extensive training, and
the flight time minutes We're talking maybe four to eight
minutes maximum on a full tank of fuel. Then you
need to land and refuel.
Speaker 1: Which is the exact opposite of what witnesses described completely.
Speaker 2: They reported silent movement, hours of sustained hovering near the
village night after night, and superhuman agility leaping over houses.
You cannot do that silently for hours with bulletproof armor
in a current jetpack. It's physically impossible with known technology.
Speaker 1: So the tech contradiction is blatant. What about the motive?
Does the scaring villagers off gold rich Land idea hold up?
Speaker 2: Not really think about how illegal mining operations or cartel's work.
Their biggest asset is secrecy. They thrive by staying hidden,
operating in the shadows, avoiding attention while they extract resources
or move product.
Speaker 1: And these attacks were anything but subtle exactly.
Speaker 2: They were terrifying, spectacular, and drew immediate global media attention
to this remote corner of the Amazon. Why would a
group trying to secretly mine gold announce their presence to
the world with seven foot tall figures in futuristic armor
and silent flying machines. It's counterproductive. It invite scrutiny, police, military,
everything they want to avoid.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the tech doesn't fit the motive seems backward.
What about the location? Was it only happening near supposed
gold deposits.
Speaker 2: Nope, that's another nail in the coffin for the minor theory.
The attacks or sightings of similar figures weren't confined to
the remote jungle around San Antonio Dipintoyaku. They extended into
the city of Akitos.
Speaker 1: Akitos. That's a proper city, right, population.
Speaker 2: Around thirty five thousand people, a significant urban center for
the region, and there are absolutely no gold deposits anywhere
near Iktos. Yet there were documented sightings of one of
these armored humanoid figures climbing a rooftop in the city
at night.
Speaker 1: What possible reason would a gold miner have for deploying
this kind of high tech suit in the middle of
a city with no gold.
Speaker 2: None that makes any logical sense within their narrative. It
suggests the operation, whatever it was, had objectives beyond just
scaring people off one specific patch of land and one
more piece of evidence. The villagers provided themselves the traps
right in their desperation, they tried fighting back. They set
up simple perimeter traps basically shotguns rigged with trip wires
around the village, and throughout July they heard them go
off at night, bang, a shotgun blast in.
Speaker 1: The darkness, meaning something or someone triggered.
Speaker 2: The wire exactly. But here's the thing. Every single time
they went out the next morning to check cautiously. Nothing
no bodies, no blood stains, no discarded armor pieces, no
sign of anyone being hit or injured at all. Just footprints,
Just those weird footprints, mysterious oval shapes reportedly twice the
size of a normal human foot, consistent with the size
of the figures, perhaps the base of the hovering discs,
but no evidence that the shotgun blasts had any effect whatsoever,
despite clearly being triggered.
Speaker 1: So if it wasn't miners with jet packs and likely
was an alien speaking Spanish, where does that leave us.
It sounds like something far more organized, technologically advanced, and
well state level.
Speaker 2: That's the uncomfortable direction the evidence points. If we discount
the easy dismissive explanations, we have to consider actors with
access to resources and technology far beyond criminal gangs, which
leads us to the truly dark context surrounding disappearances in Peru.
Speaker 1: You mentioned a statistic earlier.
Speaker 2: It's staggering, it's horrifying, nearly twelve thousand women and girls
go missing in Peru every single year, most of them teenagers,
and fewer than half are ever found or accounted for.
Speaker 1: Twelve thousand a year. That's an epidemic. That's not just
random crime.
Speaker 2: It suggests something systemic, large scale trafficking network, certainly, but
some investigators fear could also point to something even darker,
the systematic harvesting of human beings treated essentially as live
sit for biological materials.
Speaker 1: Which brings us back to the motive for the face peelers.
The black market exactly.
Speaker 2: The global black market for human organs is a multi
billion dollar industry. A single healthy human body, if harvested
for all its usable parts organs, tissues, bone, blood, can
theoretically be worth millions on this illicit market.
Speaker 1: So if the Pella cars weren't just after the thirty
six thousand dollars a gallon face fat, but potentially involved
in a broader organ harvesting operation.
Speaker 2: Then the motive becomes terrifyingly clear and economically potent. Remote
villages like San Antonio de Pintoacu, with limited oversight and
vulnerable populations become ideal hunting ground.
Speaker 1: But again, the means traffickers and organ brokers, even wealthy
ones don't typically have silent hover platforms and laser scalpels
and bulletproof exoskeletons. Who does have that kind of tech?
Speaker 2: If we assume the attackers are human, the list is short,
primarily the military and intelligence agencies of major world powers
operating with black budgets shielded from public scrutiny.
Speaker 1: And this is where the timeline gets extremely uncomfortable. The
US military connection undeniable.
Speaker 2: It's not speculation, it's a documented fact. At the exact
time these Pellikars attacks were peaking, the US military was
conducting a major joint exercise called Resolute Sentinel twenty twenty three,
and where with its base of operations.
Speaker 1: Aikido's Naval base, which is located just.
Speaker 2: Upriver from San Antonio to Pintoaco, right there in the vicinity.
Speaker 1: Okay, proximity is one thing, but the timing that's the kicker.
Speaker 2: The source material confirms eighty seven US Marines were physically
present boots on the ground conducting operations as part of
Resolute Sentinel in that region right up until July twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 1: And the main wave of Pelicars attacks, including the one
on Talia Diaz begin.
Speaker 2: July eleventh, a two day gap, the major US military
presence pulls out, and two days later these high tech
assaults begin in earnest. That correlation is intense.
Speaker 1: It demands an explanation and who was involved in this exercise?
Just marines?
Speaker 2: No, it was a joint operation multiple US branches, including fascinatingly, the.
Speaker 1: Space forces of force in the Amazon jungle. What were
they doing there?
Speaker 2: That's the multimillion dollar question, isn't it. Officially it's about
integrated training, but Space force involvement in jungle warfare training
raises eyebrows. It suggests interests in advanced surveillance from above,
maybe satellite support, maybe testing communication systems, or potentially even
deploying assets related to advanced aerial platforms, things that fly
high and see everything, or perhaps even operate quietly in
the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: So, if we put this together, could the attacks have
been a field test using the exercises cover or perhaps
continuing covertly after the main exercise ended.
Speaker 2: It's a theory that suddenly makes the villager's descriptions sound
less like alien encounters and more like eyewitness reports of
bleeding edge military tech being tested in a permissive, unobserved environment.
Let's connect the dots.
Speaker 1: Okay, the silent hovering.
Speaker 2: Experimental lift systems Advanced ducted fans are one possibility, quiet
compared to rotors, but electromagnetic propulsion or something similar involving
fuel effects could potentially offer near silent hovering if you
have the power source. Military black projects are where you'd
expect to find that kind of tech.
Speaker 1: The armour seven feet tall, bulletproof superhuman strength and agility.
Speaker 2: Sounds uncannily like the design goals for advanced combat exoskeletons.
The US military has been working on things like the
tallow Suit Tactical Assault Light Operator suit for years. The
concept is exactly that, a powered armored suit providing ballistic
protection and enhancing the sordier's speed, strength, and endurance. Seeing
sparks from shotgun pellets hitting it that fit.
Speaker 1: Glowing yellow eyes.
Speaker 2: Simple advanced night vision or thermal imaging goggles integrated into
a helmet display standard issue for high tech units operating
at night, looks like glowing eyes from the outside and
the weapons.
Speaker 1: The laser beam that knocked out Pablo, the laser scalpel
used on Talia.
Speaker 2: Directed energy weapons dws. I know these exist high powered
microwave or millimeter waves emitters. They can be used to
disable electronics detonate missiles, but scaled down they can absolutely
be used to cause intense pain, disorientation, and localized burns
on human skin by rapidly heating water molecules matches the
humming sound, the burning smell, the incapacitation effect.
Speaker 1: So the technology described by the villagers maps almost perfectly
onto known, albeit highly classified areas of military research and.
Speaker 2: Development, frighteningly well. And then you loop back to Talia's testimony.
The absolute lynchpin.
Speaker 1: The two voices local Peruvian American gringo accent.
Speaker 2: Which screams joint operation, local assets providing ground knowledge, guidance,
maybe translation, working alongside foreign operators handling the high tech equipment.
The Amazon is the perfect laboratory, dense jungle, limited government oversight,
almost zero chance of independent media stumbling onto something they
shouldn't see, ideal for testing controversial tech, or perhaps for
running a highly profitable, deniable side operation like harvesting.
Speaker 1: And this idea of using monsters or mimicking local legends.
It's not unprecedented for intelligence agencies, is it, there's a.
Speaker 2: History here, a deeply disturbing history. Psychological operations or psyops.
Exploiting cultural fears is a documented tactic the CIA in
particular has used it.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the Philippines example that sounds relevant.
Speaker 2: Chillingly relevant. Back in the nineteen fifties, the huckballa hap
or hucks or a communist insurgency gaining ground in the Philippines.
Conventional tactics weren't working well in some areas, so the CIA,
specifically Edward Lansdale's SiOx unit, decided to leverage local folklore.
Speaker 1: Which legend did they use?
Speaker 2: The swan, a particularly terrifying creature in Filipino myth sort
of a vampire ghoul hybrid known for draining its victim's blood,
sometimes using a long prepasis like tongue.
Speaker 1: Okay, so how did the CIA mimic that horrifically?
Speaker 2: Lansdale's team would stage ambushes. After a firefight, they'd find
a huck body punching the neck with two holes mimicking
the oswang's bite, hang the body upside down to drain
all the blood, and leave it on the trail where
the next huck patrol would find.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's monsters.
Speaker 2: It's brutal psychological warfare. The effect on the superstitious huckfighters,
finding their comrades drained of blood in the exact manner
of the Aatswang legend, was devastating. It broke morale, caused
defections and surrenders in ways that bullets hadn't.
Speaker 1: And Vietnam Operation Wandering Soul.
Speaker 2: Similar principle, different myth. The Vietnamese belief is strong that
the dead must be buried in their homeland to find peace,
otherwise their souls wander aimlessly. So US forces recorded these
incredibly eerie tapes, ghostly voices, whales, screams, sounds purported to
be the souls of dead Vietcong sould lamenting their fate,
calling out to their comrades, and.
Speaker 1: Broadcast them into the jungle at night.
Speaker 2: Exactly from helicopters or hidden speakers, trying to prey on
the soldier's fear and guilt convince them they were being haunted.
Reports suggest it was quite effective, unnerving the Viat con Apparently,
it even terrified Allied South Vietnese troops who heard it.
Speaker 1: So if intelligence agencies have a documented history of faking vampires,
and ghosts to achieve military objectives.
Speaker 2: Then the idea of deploying advanced technology exoskeleton silent flight
energy weapons to deliberately mimic the ancient Peruvian legend of
the pishtaco face peeler suddenly seems less like sci fi
and terrifyingly plausible.
Speaker 1: It becomes a potential strategy. Drive people off land, facilitate
resource extraction or trafficking, conduct tests, all while ensuring the
victim's stories sounds so outlandish, so rooted in superstition, that
they're instantly dismissed by the wider world. The perfect cover.
Speaker 2: Precisely the horrifyingly effective way to operate with impunity.
Speaker 1: So the official story was clearly inadequate, likely deliberately so.
The villagers were left terrified, isolated. But help did eventually arrive,
didn't It Not from the government, though, No, it.
Speaker 2: Came from private citizens. In October twenty twenty three, a
few months after the peak of the attacks, a privately
funded expedition went in, led by an American investigator named
Tim Alberino and crucially accompanied by a former US Marine,
Doug Thornton. What was their goal primarily humanitarian aid, but
also to investigate first hand, to talk to the witnesses,
assess the situation, try to figure what was really going on,
since the official channels were clearly offering no answers.
Speaker 1: What did they find when they got there?
Speaker 2: What was the state of the village dire Alberino described
a community living in constant fear. The men were patrolling, yes,
but with ancient, rusty shotguns, some barely functional. They had
desperately tried to clear the jungle, cutting down huge swathes
of trees around the village perimeter just to get a
better line of sight, to try and see these things coming.
Speaker 1: Trying to defend against an enemy that floats silently overhead hopeless.
Speaker 2: Pretty much. They were brave, they were determined, but they
were completely outmatched and lacked even basic defensive training against
a modern, technologically superior adversary.
Speaker 1: And that's where the former marine came in, Doug Thornton exactly.
Speaker 2: He couldn't give them advanced weapons, but he could give
them knowledge. He recognized their immediate need wasn't just guns,
but tactics. He spent time teaching the village men basic
patrol formations, how to move as a unit, safe weapon handling,
Apparently they were almost as much danger to each other
in the dark as the attackers were. How to set
up a basic defense.
Speaker 1: Practical skills, giving them some agency.
Speaker 2: Back, tangible skills in the face of an almost unbelievable threat.
It was about giving them a fighting chance, or at
least a safer way to try and protect themselves.
Speaker 1: And Alberino, the investigator, after speaking with everyone, interviewing dozens
of witnesses, what was his conclusion. Did he believe them?
Speaker 2: He stated on a quivocally that he was convinced the
villagers were telling the truth about what they saw, the
seven foot figures, the hovering, the armor, the yellow eyes.
He believed their descriptions were accurate accounts of their.
Speaker 1: Experiences, but he didn't think it was aliens.
Speaker 2: No. His conclusion after synthesizing all the information, including the
Pieshtaco context in Talia's testimony, was that they were facing
a powerful, highly organized international human criminal network involved in
what he suspected large scale sex trafficking and organ harvesting.
He believed this organization had somehow gained access to extremely
advanced technology, the kind usually associated with black budget military programs,
maybe even reverse engineered non human tech, though he focused
on the human element, and.
Speaker 1: They were using this tech y to terrorize.
Speaker 2: The locals into submission or drive them out. The motive,
in his view, was profit, pure and simple, derived from
the horrific black market in human bodies and tissues. The
method was overwhelming technological terror and the alien app aspect.
That was the perfect cover story.
Speaker 1: The built in deniability. If witnesses describe something that sounds
like aliens, they're immediately dismissed as crazy or superstitious, allowing
the real perpetrators to operate freely.
Speaker 2: Exactly Alberino's conclusion, The story itself becomes the shield for
the operation.
Speaker 1: So, bringing all these threads together, what's the strongest conclusion
we can draw from the available sources.
Speaker 2: It seems overwhelmingly likely that the phase peelers, those pilicatas
are human actors, highly organized, technologically superior human actors.
Speaker 1: The motive seems clear now grounded in both ancient legend
and modern black markets.
Speaker 2: Right the pushtaco legend provides the historical context for fat
harvesting and the documented thirty six thousand dollars gallon trade,
plus the broader organ trafficking market provides a brutally clear
economic driver profit.
Speaker 1: And the means the technology.
Speaker 2: Explained by access to advanced military or black market hardware,
silent lift systems, powered exos, skeletons, directed energy weapons. These
perfectly match the witness descriptions and explain the attackers' capabilities
in a way jetpacks or aliens simply don't.
Speaker 1: And the most crucial takeaway, perhaps for anyone listening to this,
is how the very nature of the attacks creates its
own cover story.
Speaker 2: Precisely, the alien angle, or even the jetpack minor story,
serves to immediately discredit the victims. These are isolated, often
indigenous people, easy to dismiss as unreliable or superstitious. It
allows the perpetrators, whoever they are, to operate with near
total impunity. They've turned a terrifying cultural nightmare into a
brutally efficient, modern, profitable industry built on human suffering.
Speaker 1: The official story isn't just wrong. It feels like a
deliberate obfuscation, a lie to make a very complex, very
ugly problem just go away.
Speaker 2: It certainly seems that way, whether the people in those
suits were rogue military testing tech off books, private military
contractors working for a shadowy corporation or sophisticated traffickers who
somehow acquired this gear human beings profiting from the terror
and disappearance of other human beings. The technology is real,
the victims are real, and the potential profits are horrifyingly
very real.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just quickly recap this incredibly dark journey we've taken.
We started with those screams in the jungle, the bullets
sparking off impenetrable armor.
Speaker 2: We track the horrifying consistency of the face peeling method
from Hans Servantes back in twenty thirteen, with those surgical cuts,
right up to the attempted procedure on Talia Dias in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Confirmed by her hearing those two voices the local Peruvian
and the American Gringo speaking Spanish worried about ruining the flesh.
That detail is just bone chilling.
Speaker 2: Then we connected it all back to the five hundred
year old Pishtaco legend, the fat stealing entity born from
colonial trauma and saw its grotesque echo, and the modern
thirty six thousand dollars a gallon black market for human fat,
allegedly for cosmetics.
Speaker 1: We looked at the animal mutilations nearby, suggesting a wider
pattern of sophisticated biological harvesting. And then we overlaid that precise,
undeniable timeline the major US military exercise Resolute Sentinel twenty
twenty three, involving Space Force operating right there, ending just
two days before the attacks.
Speaker 2: Exploded, strengthening the theory that this could be a clandestine operation,
possibly military or intelligence linked, field testing advanced tech under
the perfect psychological cover of mimicking a local monster legend.
Drawing on historical precedents like the CIA's Oswung operations.
Speaker 1: The inescapable conclusion from the sources seems to be this
is human evil amplified by technology that shouldn't be in
the hands it's in operating in a place where oversight
is minimal and victims are easily ignored. The Amazon is
a laboratory and its people as disposable subjects.
Speaker 2: Which leads us to the final, deeply unsettling question. A
provocative thought for you listening at home to really chew
on after this deep dive is over.
Speaker 1: If this kind of advanced terrifying technology is being deployed
like this systematically brutally against defenseless people and remote, unmonitored
parts of the Amazon.
Speaker 2: What does that imply about other unexplained phenomena. Think about
the weird lights in the sky reported all over South America.
Think about those surgically precise animal mutilations from New Mexico
to Argentina. Think about the tens of thousands who vanish
with it a trace every year across the continent.
Speaker 1: Could some of these seemingly disparate bizarre events be connected.
Could they be manifestations of similar clandestine operations using advanced
tech under different covers.
Speaker 2: If the face peelers have successfully evolved from an ancient
legend into a high tech, profitable industry in Peru, it's
hard not to wonder if their business model or similar
ones might have a far wider and more terrifying global
reach than we currently imagine. The Monster, it seems, is
no longer just a story. It's an industry.