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Speaker 1: What is up, Fellowsick goes, I am Danna Valley coming

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at you without my co host, mister Grant Hughes. But

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it is the third piece of fullish length content we're

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trying to release for you each week. I will do

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it solo because I'm going to react to Kenny for real,

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reacting to my trade ideas for every NBA team. I

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was actually come up with an idea that every NBA

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team should propose right now. I think it's probably like

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a few weeks old at this point. He reacted to

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it on his channel, and I figured maybe we go

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with a little reaction inception. This is me reacting to

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Kenny for real, reacting to me. If you enjoy it,

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let me know in the YouTube comments, let me know

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inn our discord, or find me on the socials all

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those links during the podcast YouTube description. If this is

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something that you enjoy seeing kind of the person who

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created these ideas reacting to other people's opinions of them.

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Maybe we'll make it a semi staple whenever it happens.

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Kenny I did not consume a lot of his content until,

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like I don't, I guess two years ago. As someone

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pointed it out to me referenced it. He seems to

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have a lot of fun covering the league, might even

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say he enjoys it. People who follow Kenny will understand

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what that means, and I really appreciate people who cover

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it in that regard. I have not watched Slash listen

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to this particular episode video that he posted, which I

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think will make it more fun. So I'll be curious

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to see what he thinks. But yeah, let me know

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how it goes. This is interesting. I want to know

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what he has to say, and without further delay, let's

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hop to it. So the one note I think is

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worth clarifying here and I'm curious to see if he

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gets into it is each of these deals are supposed

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to be proposed from the team under their actual subheading,

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where it would be we're gonna start with the Atlanta

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Hawks because it goes alphabetically, the Hawks should call and

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propose this deal. I framed it and meant to be

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in a way of No, they're not supposed to be lopsided,

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where it's can the Hawks trade Garrison, Matthews, Riihannis, Attenta

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Kumpo or something. It was supposed to be realistic, but

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it was also supposed to represent a starting point negotiations.

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I understand people aren't always gonna interpret it that way,

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but I feel like that was an interesting backstop to this.

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And finally, I don't write, analyze, propose trades to actually

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get people mad. I know that's what generates engagement.

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Speaker 2: We know.

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Speaker 1: That's why I write them a lot of Bleacher Report.

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I've never been forced to write them at Pleacher Report.

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We do have the ability to say no. I've said

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no to pitches in the past, So I don't get

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bent out of shape when people are angry, because I

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understand that's the business. But I do when I see

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the screenshots going around or even see kind of, you know,

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maybe some of the cutups, I think it's important context,

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Like I did put thought into this, and there was

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sort of a different framework involved as to how these

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were being proposed. That doesn't mean you have to like

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these deals, does mean you have to like me or

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my justification, but I thought that that was at least

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important to note. Now for real, let's get to Kenny

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for real. Reacting to my NBA trade ideas, It's not tray.

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Speaker 2: Season, but it's always trace season. If you feel what

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I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Right off the bat. He's right, it's always trade season.

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I know some people don't want to consume that on them,

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but everyone wants to talk about trades, maybe with the

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exception of like immediately after the trade deadline or a

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week or two when you know trades can't happen for

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a while. But Kenny's onto something clearly right there.

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Speaker 2: One trade every NBA team should proposed right now, leave

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a like subscribe. Let's get into it with the Thana Hawks.

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So the Atlanta Hawks are gonna propose to get Uzman

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Zan get Jalen Williams in one first round pick that

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is at least favorite between one, two, three, four, five

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different teams for Larry Dance Junior and Vic Regie. Oh.

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I mean, okay, Uzman Jag is one of those players

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interested in. Not that he's having some phenomenal seasons, actually

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not shooting the ball very well, but he's young enough.

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It was a lottery pick that I feel like teams

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will take a chance on. This is like, okay, see saying, hey,

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we have.

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Speaker 1: Zero centers for the time being Larry NaN's Jews. Actually

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now they do have centers. Back Isaiah Hartenstein is playing.

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But I did write this in the aftermath of Cat's

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injury when Larry Nanz Junior even had a smaller role

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with the with the Hawks himself, and also as a

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quick note, Usman Jang has played some small ball five

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for okay, see, but please carry.

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Speaker 2: On a pretty solid season at the center position. Well,

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we're gonna grab him and give you a first round

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pick that might not really be a first round pick

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if it's crazy. Sometimes can play. But it's one of

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those trades. It's like, eh, I mean, if you can

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get a first round pick, even if it is one

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of the ones that may not.

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Speaker 1: It's if you can get a first round pick for

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Larry Nance Junior on an expiring contract. I don't care

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how low level it is. You do it. And I

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would argue that the Thunder might be the team that

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would say no to this, just because you still do

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have that draft equity in Ushman Jang.

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Speaker 2: Can they ever in a prospect like Uzmanzang for Larry

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Nance is kind of a come up if you're Atlanta,

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because it's not like Larry Nance is part of the

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long term future whatsoever. Give a bunch of minutes even

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though they got a crazy four rotation over there. Anyway,

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this is one of those stories that have happened right now,

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I wouldn't have a video ready to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether it be insulted by that he

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wouldn't have a video for Larry Nance Junior Trade. I

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thinke that look for the first one, and we're not

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gonna spend as much time on all of these. I'll

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take it. I'll take the analysis of it. I don't

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expect anyone to get everyone, excuse me, to get excited

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about Larry Nance Junior Trade. The still are kind of

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in a different position than they were when I had

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written about that, and I thought the flyer on Usman Jang,

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pair him with Resis sche and Byson Daniels and Hunter

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now that he's healthy, and maybe you could do just

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a bunch of different things. Defensively, I still kind of

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like that one for Okasee. If they're looking for a

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little big man insurance, I just wonder if they'd be

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okay giving up a first however, like they have so many,

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and it's going to be back of the basically when

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you're looking at it, it's not going to be of

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the teams that were involved a really good first round pick,

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would they give up both Fernance? But if you're Atlanta,

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would you just take Usman Jang Fernance knowing that Okay

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Jang has another year left on his rookie scale, somewhat

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intriguing prospect at least when you look at his physical profile.

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Who knows. So we're off to not so much of

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a better start. But I don't mind anything he said.

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Speaker 2: You got the boss to Celtics a mere Coffee for

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Jada Spring in a second round pick. A mere Coffee

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is one of the most efficient shooters of basketball right now.

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It's not like the Clippers are trying to rebuild, right

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They're trying to stay competitive and waiting, waiting, waiting Ti

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Kawai comes back. So it feels weird for them to

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be selling a guy like a mere Coffee for a

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second rounder. And I'm not saying Jadis Springer can't be

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good one day, but like you feel me, so that's

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kind of a nothing trade to me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I will say Jaden Springer probably won't be good.

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Thought process there was you would have like the Clippers

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aren't doing it, but if you could give them that,

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maybe multiple seconds at that point, and you have Jaden

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Springer's salaries Boston to sort of match things with. Would

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they consider it the Clippers, Yes, they don't have control

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over their own draft moving forward. But if you don't

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want to pay coffee moving forward either, it's it's no

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one void I think at this point, because of their

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draft obligations, you're not just taking a couple of seconds

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and getting rid of a mere coffee, but a mere

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coffee on Boston would be absolute fire.

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn nets, Obi Topping and Jeris Walker for DFS and

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Dayron's sharp whoa ah do do do do do?

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Speaker 1: Do? His mind seems sufficiently blown. You're welcome, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Dude, What do I feel about this? I'm feeling a

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strong no for the Indiana Pacers, mostly because I really

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like Jeers Walker. I know he has some times where

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he could get kind of shot happy and put his

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head down and not make the greatest decision when you

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have the ball in his hands, But just last week alone,

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I saw him guard Luka Doncs, Jalen Brunson, Franz Wagner

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and half Possessions on car Anthony Towns Like I like

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that level of versatility for my young player in because

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the Indiana Pays have so many injuries, he's having an

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opportunity to really play. So I'm not really throwing him

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in the trades just yet. And if I am throwing

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him in trade, it's not for just a small upgrade.

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Well maybe as small as a stretch, but I'm not

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just an upgrade for a role player, like if I'm

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gonna trade Jerris. I'm not saying that I'm getting a

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superstar back, but I at least want to get a

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like a full, full time, no question starter.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I would agree with that overall assessment of if

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you're gonna give up the equity of invested in Jars Walker,

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you want a bigger name than Dorian Finney Smith. The

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logic here is that the Obi topping deal is kind

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of underwater. I don't think that's a deal teams want.

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Everyone was kind of surprised he got four years in

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sixty million, so that's part of the compensation. I also

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think Jars Walker has been used in a versatile fashion defensively.

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I just don't think that versatility always equates to effectiveness.

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But I do agree with Kenny's overall assessment that, again,

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if you're the Pacers, you're gonna want a bigger name

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coming back in any sort of Jarris Walker deal. Getting

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Dorian Phinney Smith for the Pacers in general, if you

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have other framework you could throw out there. I think

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he's someone who helps them because they really do need

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anyone who resembles a cap slock wing defender.

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Speaker 2: That's what Dorrian Phinney Smith is on the team, where

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Aaron Ee Smith being out but Benny mcmtthws playing, so

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who So it's like, nah, I mean, if you're the

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Brooklyn Nets, you like, sign me up right now, just

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because Jis Walker as a prospect is one of the

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ones you would love to get, especially if you're only

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cost you a role player that you're not trying to

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keep for the long term anyway. But it's one of

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those traits that I can't really see happening. I don't

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think Jerris is gonna get traded for something like that.

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Speaker 1: Again, I would agree. Also part of the value there

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for Ane out of though, is if dyarn Sharp when

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he's healthy, kind of helps Phil. You know, they've had

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two really like serious big man injuries to Isaiah Jackson

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and James Wiseman, and they could use some more backup

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depth there, I mean, especially we're gonna be trading Obi

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top and who I was watching, can't remember, was that

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the Pelicans game he got injured, So we'll have to

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check and see how he he's at actually doing. But

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that was the logic again proposed from the NETS perspective,

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which jars Walker would be super interesting there, especially given

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the way that head coach Jordi Fernandez is sort of

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steering this team at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Robert Williams for mess and two second round picks.

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That is probably just because Robert Willis can't stay healthy.

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first round pick for the talent that is Robert Williams,

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who's look pretty good in the two games he's played

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since he's been back. But because he has all of

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the injury history and he hasn't played like a full

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season almost ever, it kind of makes sense that he

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might not be worth a fool first. I would actually

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like him a lot with the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 1: Because so what I mean, they have front court injuries themselves,

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and just to give their ball handlers like another sort

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of lob option or like even just a big man

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who is going to give you some passing if you

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want him to operate out of the short role. They've

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had some really good moments from Musa Diabate this year,

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stuff that he's been able to do as a rim protector.

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R W three is just a different look for them.

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I'm not giving up a first round pick for RW three.

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I know he's playing now, but you can't count of

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him to log a ton of minutes in a vacuum. Yeah,

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that is his profile. He should be worth at least

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the first round pick. But given the injury history and

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the fact that even in his peak he was never

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really playing a ton of minutes, I can't give up

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that much for him personally.

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Speaker 2: Is there other center? Well, now you're gonna have a

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center rotation of Mark Williams and Robert Williams, the two

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guys that can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, between the two of them, don't you get like

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that's at least between Mark Williams and Robert Williams, you

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get at least forty two games of above average center play.

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That's more than half the season.

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Speaker 2: But if it's only calls to use of second round

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picks and Mesais say yes, but I don't think. I

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think Portland woud rather sit on the asset and wait

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for Robert Williams to play his way into a lot

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of reprotective first or at least a young talented player

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that you can feel comfortable in, not the thirty two

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year old backup.

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Speaker 1: That is a good point, and especially it's a better

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point now because I wrote this when Robert Williams the

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third was still not playing, and so now he's back

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and playing, and it's you know, with the DeAndre eight

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and injury and how well Donovan Klingen's been coming along.

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I think you look at before he got injured. I

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think you look at and say, we'd rather probably keep

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r W three and clinging and either way for eight

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and expire. Can we use his expiring contract over the

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summer as part of a bigger deal.

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Speaker 2: The only reason why we really made this video to

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see what they got for the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, I was, I know now because of but

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they also told me when someone I think it was

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their discording. Can you remember someone that texted me or

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discord messaged me. Kenny's a huge Bulls fan, so I

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expect him to just loathe this tread.

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Speaker 2: Oh Anthony, who basically doesn't play anymore, Jonathan and I

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is a Tristan. The silver in a first round pick

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most fable from Denver and Orlando top five protected through

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twenty twenty seven turns into two seconds if not conveyed. Oh,

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I don't like that sounds turns the two seconds for

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Zach Levine and Tory Cregg. I didn't cooking something of it.

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I didn't cooking something up here. John Nye is one

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of those guys there. Orlando Magic fans are like, no, no, no, no,

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I threw john Nygan to tray you like two years

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ago when he wasn't even playing. Orlando Magic fans like, no,

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he is untouchable. But Zach Levine is the type of

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player and I'm not saying they should do this because

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his contract is still very large, so he got a

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few years left on. This was not as bad now

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as it was last year or year before that. But

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he is the type of player. I think Orlando should

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be trying to get one of those bucket getting type

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of guys because I think that they have the defensive

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infrastructure to accommodate Zach Levine, and I don't think zach

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Lvin is a bad defender, he just kind of gets

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lost off ball. So I don't mind this trade. It

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from a Bulls fans perspective, even if this pick never

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conveys in the two years three year draft classes, because

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I'm interested in Tristan Silva. He's one of the older

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guys drafted in the first round, but I liked him

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as a prospect coming out of college, so I wouldn't

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mind this. But also I'm kind of saying that because

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I think zach Lvin. I want to see Zach Lvine

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on the team that's going to be in the playoff contention.

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It'sy Kraik doesn't really play for the Bulls anymore because

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they opted to go smaller, younger, but I think he

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can still be serviceable in the rotation this is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Magic would do this deal, even

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though if I were controlling the Magic, I would. You're

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giving up what you think would be the equivalent of

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two first round picks because Tritian de Silva was just taken,

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plus that Denver pick, which it will so you don't

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have to worry about that turning into two seconds. But

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you aren't getting out off of the Cole Anthony deal,

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which doesn't look so great right now. Maybe Jonathan Isaac

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you can consider a loss, but you have a lot

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of different big man options up front, especially when Pallo

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bank Caro comes back healthy from that oblique injury. I

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wonder if the Silva would be the sticking point. But

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add Zach Lavine shot making to what the Magic have

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done with and without Palo this season, and I think

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you start talking about them as a more serious title contender.

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Speaker 2: I think Magic fans will say no. As a Bulls fan,

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I would be interested in that there's another team, Larry

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Nance for GEORGEY Yang.

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Speaker 1: To backstory, it's Larry Nance for GEORGEI Yang in two

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second round picks. I've been trying to get Larry Nance

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Junior back on the cast for like six months now.

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I think he would be an excellent fit there.

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Speaker 2: Zach gets bring Larry back home nothing trade? Oh he's okay,

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So he's trying to get type of.

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Speaker 1: Whoa nothing trade? That seems extreme.

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Speaker 2: Larry is junior.

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Speaker 1: They got to rely on George Yang a lot amid injuries,

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and just looking at the front corner rotation, that's not

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a nothing trade. I strongly disagree with that. I think

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Larry Dance Junior would fortify a rotation in Cleveland that's

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already one of the best and probably deeper than we

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expected in basketball when you consider, oh, they've had the

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Max Drew's injury, some other smattering of injuries. Now you

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had Laron nance Junior that rotation. If they ever get

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fully healthy, that's not a nothing trade.

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Speaker 2: Come on guy, Maxically, but in a first top a

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protected for Aaron Wiggins, well, because Aaron Wiggins save basketball.

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I can't say that OKC would put him in the

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trade because what are you going to do after that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't put him in a trade. This is

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being proposed from the Mavericks perspective. I think you do

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have to look at that distant first round pick that

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Dallas would be getting or giving up. Excuse me, twenty

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thirty one. It's only top eight protected, though, could you

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loosen that a little bit? This can't go through until

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January fifteenth if anybody cares. But if you were the

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Thunder and you think, okay, well we kind of have

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enough wing sized or guard sized players and we want

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to go out and we'll get another big man in CLEEVEBA,

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but who fits what they do five out model, can

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can guard on the perimeter when he's healthy, can't play

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a ton of minutes though, and we're getting this distant

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first round pick. Would you consider it even I'm probably no,

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just because of what Okase needs the most on offense,

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and now Hartenstein is back. Part of that was we

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thought Hertenstein might be out a little bit longer. This

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is coming right after the chet Holmegrin injury.

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Speaker 2: I do understand the idea of trying to go get

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some center play or guy that can mold himself into

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a center like a Mexic Leebl's a little bit versatile there.

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But if the price is Aaron Wiggins, I'm probably saying though,

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like I would rather trade Uzman zan if I'm OKC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's just Aaron Wiggins too. He's on

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one of the best contracts now too. You always wish

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that maybe he could do a little bit more as

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a shot creator, a little bit more as a passer,

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but just the rim pressure he gives you, not a

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floorspasing liability, and then someone who can defend his butt off,

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you would absolutely rather give up Usman. You woul if

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you're OKAC, you prefer going to Larry n Junior route

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rather than this route where you're like, we're still loading

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up picks here for a future trade that we may

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or may not make.

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Speaker 2: To try to upgrade our center position, versus trading the

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guy like Wiggins who's like a real staple in the

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rotation and playing so very well on a team friendly deal.

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But you know, Sam Pressy like these things.

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Speaker 1: If you throw twenty thirty one pick on the table.

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I wonder if Sam press he is thinking about trading

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Aaron Wiggins. I just wonder. I'm not saying he would.

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I wouldn't at this point, not this trade specifically, but

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I do think he's all right. I think he starts

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at least considering it.

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Speaker 2: Press he love him a pick it two, so maybe,

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but it can't can't complete it to January. Ain't the

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name of this article of trade you propose right now.

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So you're gonna propose it right now and say that

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we say yes to January was going well done.

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Speaker 1: There's, first of all, tampering is a thing, and NBA

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teams are always having these conversations, and so much of

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the league is ineligible to be traded. Until after December fourteen,

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So I'd like to defend myself there. I know the

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title says right now, but if you I recycle a

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lot of names in this to begin with, but if

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you want even less variety, sure next time I won't

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include the the ones that can't be completed immediately.

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Speaker 2: Thenver Nuggets. The Nuggets are a team I was just

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thinking about because Zignagi is a guy with like eight

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nine million dollars on his cap, like he is the

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one tradable contract that they have. What can they get

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for him? And the answer in their eyes is Cody

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Martin and Nick Richards. Wow, that's not too bad, man.

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Speaker 1: That might be the highest praise he's given throughout this.

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I don't know if he's gonna mention it, but the

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trade actually is Cody Martin and Nick Richards to Denver

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for Zeke Naji, Dario Sharich and two first round swaps.

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So Charlotte would have the right to swap first round

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picks with Denver in twenty twenty eight and two thousand

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and thirty.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're getting up a first round pick and

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two first round swaps. I'm sorry, so not completely a

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first rounder. It's a dangerous trade man for twenty thirty.

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That's a long time from now. But like the idea

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is to continue to keep that window open for the

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Denver Nuggets. And you just don't have a lot of

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contracts that you can aggregate in order to get like

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big time role players. But I do believe Cody Martin

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and Nick Richards would be able to come to Denver

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and play.

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Speaker 1: They would. I mean, the backup set of rotation in

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Denver is is still a shit show. And Cody Martin's

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quietly put together a nice season. You're always gonna wonder

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about his shooting, but as a connective passer, someone could

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be moved around defense. I think part of the issue

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here is which is why two first round swaps seems

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like a lot. They're not guaranteed to convey. If you're Charlotte,

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you're doing this to say we'll eat bad Money's he nag.

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He has three more years left on his contract. Dario

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Charaz has a player option for next season that the

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Nuggets never should have given him. This is Reggie Jackson's

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contract all over again. So you have to that the

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premium you're paying. From the Nuggets' perspective is you could

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wind up conveying two first round picks. But you're getting

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off bad money here and you're betting on your infrastructure.

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We're not going to give up these first round picks.

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Like Charlotte's going to be worse than us in twenty

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twenty eight, twenty thirty probably gets a little interesting. And

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if you're Charlotte, you're saying, hey, we're younger, we have

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Randon Miller, t Jhon Salon LaMelo should fit into the

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long term pitcher when he's healthy. Maybe Mark Williams still

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turns into something. We could still be good. One of

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these first round swops might convey as Nicole Yokich is

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getting older or aging out, and the rest of the

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core ages out. If we could then swap picks with

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Denver at a time when we're good, that's either a

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trade chip or a way to just replenish our rotation,

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that becomes a big deal. I thought this was an

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interesting one. I do know the reception on social medt.

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I do not believe that either team's fan base really

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liked it. I thought it was interesting, though.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate this. Ooh, I don't love any but yeah,

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because two first swaps is crazy for Cody Martin bro

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I ain't gonna last. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's also crazy giving Dario shar it's a player option

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in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: But I understand the idea behind it because you don't

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have a ton of wigger room to make the roster better.

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You don't have any straight up tradable first round US.

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Every first round of US you're incorporated in the trade

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has to be a swap. You have zero second round

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picks either, yes, like, are you gonna convince a team?

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Speaker 1: Great point back, the Nuggets just don't have second round

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picks to trade right now, and so that's why you

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also have to include the first round swaps. I did

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write that in the thing, but that it's a point

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that goes sort of under the radar because Denver has

472
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,400
given up second round picks in the past, but they've

473
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,359
used They use so many of them this past offseason

474
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,839
to help get off that Reggie Jackson contract.

475
00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 2: It takes Zignaji at face value. No, you're gonna have

476
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,319
to trace some future capital. In the future capital might

477
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,440
be a swapp or too. But because these contracts are

478
00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:03,559
not that large, it's not like you could say Zeke

479
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,319
Nagy antoity swaps to go get a mid level starter.

480
00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:08,519
That just doesn't work that way.

481
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 1: I am curious if you could get to Dorianfhinney Smith's money.

482
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,599
I don't even know if these two make enough. Probably

483
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,599
not Nagi's eight. No, you can't even get a Dorrian

484
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,880
Finny Smith, like, that's what That's kind of the situation

485
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,400
that Denver is. And you could step out of your

486
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,079
way with throwing a third player in there, I suppose,

487
00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:26,319
but I might feel would you feel better with if

488
00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:28,559
you have Dorrian Finney Smith or Cody Martin Nick Richards

489
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:29,119
on the Nuggets?

490
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: What would you do?

491
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,559
Speaker 1: Let me know in the YouTube comments or in our discord.

492
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: So two random role players that could help Nick Richards

493
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,960
can help random.

494
00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:40,279
Speaker 1: Should anyone who listens to this should be offended to

495
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,119
this podcast regularly because we love Cody Martin around these parts.

496
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: So I swear to you if you can get healthy,

497
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,000
he'll showcase that. I like the talent that they're getting

498
00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:52,279
in here. I just don't know if that's the right

499
00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:54,799
package to go out. Have I liked Inhundits right so far?

500
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,640
Both ways? I don't think whoa you said?

501
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: At least didn't you say at least one of them

502
00:20:58,279 --> 00:20:58,559
was good.

503
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: Or am I misremembering the use of Nurkics in a

504
00:21:01,279 --> 00:21:06,119
first round pick for Isaiah Stewart. Still's happened a really

505
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,799
good season, man, they stop playing him at a small

506
00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:11,799
ball or a big four. He's not shooting threes at

507
00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:13,319
all this season so far. I think he was thirty

508
00:21:13,319 --> 00:21:15,000
eight percent on a couple of attempts last year. This

509
00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:16,559
year he has not hit one. I don't know if

510
00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:19,240
he's even attempt at one. So he's kind of transitioned

511
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,160
that out of his game. But if he were to

512
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,279
go to Phoenix, I would assume. But if be like,

513
00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:25,160
you know, those streets he was taking last season, fire

514
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,759
those off again because that's what they want from the

515
00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:30,680
center position. I've made myself very public about my lack

516
00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:34,079
of use of my lack of like of use of

517
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,319
Nurkics on this roster. Now he's put together a couple

518
00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:39,240
games before he just had his injury or whatever, So

519
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,440
maybe that's like going in the right direction. No, it's not.

520
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,039
Speaker 1: I mean, the use of Nurkice offensive experienced specifically for

521
00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:48,079
Phoenix isn't what they need either at this point. And

522
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000
so if you're Detroit you're playing well enough to where

523
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,880
it's a whole we get rid of who's been our

524
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,240
best big man this year. But if you can get

525
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,160
a Phoenix twenty thirty one first round pick, you have

526
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,839
to think about it. And it's probably the timing on

527
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,480
this where it's coming from the Pistons perspective. Maybe fans

528
00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:05,839
wouldn't be about that you have to eat an additional

529
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,960
year of use of Nurkic after this one, but you

530
00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:11,400
could then turn his expiring contract maybe into someone. I

531
00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:14,119
do think Pistons fans are skewing more towards Can we

532
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,960
go get Brandon Ingram, maybe go get Zach Levine without

533
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,880
having to give up too much to try to capitalize

534
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,839
on the fringes of the play in discussion that they're

535
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,319
they're currently and they've already won more games this year

536
00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:26,440
at this moment than they have with the trade deadline,

537
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,079
So I understand why you wouldn't do that. In Isaiah

538
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,319
Stewart is really good. I think he would take more

539
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,119
threes in Phoenix, just as someone who could do a

540
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920
Brook Lopez in pression pression with better rebounding probably worth shooting.

541
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,079
I really love him in Phoenix. I this might be

542
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,079
something with both teams. Say, now where if you're Phoenix

543
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,000
is well, we want someone better than Isaiah Stewart back

544
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,880
if we're playing kind of our last big trade ship.

545
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,960
But the Isaiah Stewart fit in Phoenix to me is divine.

546
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,119
And if you're Detroit and you're just looking at that

547
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,839
Phoenix twenty thirty one pick, I like that has to

548
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,240
be at least somewhat enticing.

549
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say yes. I'm just gonna say yes.

550
00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,559
I'm just yes, do it socius to use the lurkers

551
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,839
man Golden State Warriors. This is what we're here for.

552
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,519
A three teamer. So Brandon Ingram ends up with the

553
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,880
Golden State Warriors getting some Tapian talent to this team

554
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,720
that's already pretty good. It's gonna cost him Santos wigs

555
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,960
a first round pick two seconds to the Pelicans, and

556
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,000
then Gary Payton has to get traded to the Raptors.

557
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200
What a second Okay, huh? I think Wikets just looked

558
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,000
pretty good this season.

559
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: So just to boil it down, because this was a

560
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,680
three teamer, it was basically Gary Payton, Santos Andrew Wiggins

561
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,279
one first round pick this year and then two seconds

562
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640
is what it amounts to for Golden State giving it

563
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,440
up and you get brandon Ingram in return, the idea

564
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:48,279
being it seems like they need a second option. They

565
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,880
were rolling when I proposed this. Warriors fans were mad.

566
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,880
They went in some of our videos that had nothing

567
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440
to do with this trader the Warriors and commented I

568
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,480
was accused of giving up two first round picks for

569
00:23:57,559 --> 00:23:59,640
brandon Ingram. I'm reading it now, I'm looking at the

570
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,759
screen still only says one. So interesting to see what

571
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:04,640
he thinks. I know Golden State Warriors weren't a fan.

572
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480
Ingram's kind of a counterintuitive fit, but just to get

573
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:09,599
the flyer. Wiggins has been good this year, so if

574
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:11,920
you don't believe he's he's gonna be a defensive downgrades

575
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480
if you don't believe the defense, especially post This was

576
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,039
before Melton's injury. So if you don't have Gary Payton's

577
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:19,160
a defensive option, you don't have Wiggins is a defensive option.

578
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,039
That probably makes this even less palatable from Golden State's perspective.

579
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: Now, no, in order to go get another top antalent,

580
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,960
Wiggins has to be in the trade because he's one

581
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,559
of the few people that make enough money to get

582
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,200
thrown into it. This is a tough way, bro, This

583
00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:32,759
is tough. This is a tough on because not only

584
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,119
you trade it for Brandon Ingram, you were basically saying

585
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,079
yourself up to sign him to another extension once the

586
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,640
season is over. Brandan Ingham obviously really really great player, right,

587
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:42,880
Famro I'll look at it the morning.

588
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say really great. Someone who can make difficult

589
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,920
shots has value, be a little bit of a secondary playmaker.

590
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,039
He's shown that he can bump up his three point

591
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,200
volume after pulling teeth. He comes and goes on the

592
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,960
defensive end. I don't I think this is probably low

593
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,240
enough cost where if you think that Wiggins is stilling

594
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,680
a value contract, his role on the team might be

595
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,960
outsize relative to what he's actually doing. I could understand saying,

596
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,640
all right, we're not just doing this to get off money,

597
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,039
because if brand Ingram leaves, you're out of first round pick,

598
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,079
that's a big deal. And then two seconds, but then

599
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,240
you kind of cleared a bunch of money as well.

600
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:16,880
I do think, however, Brandon was not gonna get He

601
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,680
just signed with Clutch Sports. Shout out to Schimidt duav

602
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,799
in the know for reporting that before. Sean Sharani of

603
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:25,559
The Athletic, I think you could probably if you're ready

604
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:27,720
to play hardball, you could probably squeeze brand Ingram on

605
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,160
the open market. Very few teams are in position f

606
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,359
cap space and actually then go and spend it this summer.

607
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,119
As of right now, I would say maybe Brooklyn, but

608
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,759
again they're kind of op and I'm not saying they'd

609
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,240
be interested in brending. I'm just talking about cap space buyers.

610
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119
San Antonio can create some space, Brooklyn can create some space.

611
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,319
Maybe those are two teams that would be aggressive. Brooklyn. Still,

612
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
they regain control of their next two first, so I

613
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,680
don't know if they'll be looking to make big time

614
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,559
additions in advance of next season. And the Spurs just

615
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,319
Branding was not a good fit next to Stephan Castle

616
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,920
or Victor wemen Yama, so I just I couldn't see it.

617
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,519
If you're the Warriors, why not take a flyer on

618
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,680
brand Ingram, especially your offense has been dog shit lately

619
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,400
during this losing streak. Take a flyer on brandon Ingram.

620
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,200
You have that second shot creator. If it doesn't work out,

621
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,680
it's not the end of the world. But even if

622
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,480
it does, it doesn't. I don't think you're gonna have

623
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,000
to pay him unless you just go the Denver Nuggets

624
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,720
route of just randomly compensating all their own players or

625
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,799
even Dario Shartz, and you're overpaying market value if you

626
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,440
really play ball, play hardball. There is Brettinger making as

627
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:29,920
much next season as he's making right now thirty five

628
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,559
plus million.

629
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it does suck to move a

630
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,720
guy like Gary Payton in order to make the money match,

631
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:38,559
because yes.

632
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: And it does. He's right here again, this is before

633
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,599
the Meltain injury. But now that he's done for the season,

634
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,279
I think you sub out maybe Theanthony Melton as the

635
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:46,000
outgoing money.

636
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:49,039
Speaker 2: In that case, Gary Payton is like almost a perfect

637
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,599
role player for what the Warriors do. He only plays

638
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,079
well if he's in a Warrior's jersey.

639
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,319
Speaker 1: Dog.

640
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: But I'm liking it more and more the more I

641
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,200
see it.

642
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,319
Speaker 1: Now someone likes this trade. I don't even know if

643
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,960
I ran this by mister co host Grant Hughes, who,

644
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,799
if anyone knows, is a Warriors fan. Don't see how

645
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,240
he feels about it. Kenny liking this one though, makes

646
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,400
me feel in bolded, I'm gonna start proposing even more

647
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,160
audacious trades from here on until we get to maybe

648
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,000
the next trade that he might despise.

649
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,559
Speaker 2: Is a twenty twenty five pick for the Pelicans right

650
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,559
from the from the Golden State wars And at this rate,

651
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920
the Warriors are at least a playoff team, So that's

652
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,119
pick number twenty through thirty. So maybe that's not super

653
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:28,920
enticing you.

654
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's enticing in the sense that at this point,

655
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,079
just get off brandon Ingram's money. The Pelicans are kind

656
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,079
of headed nowhere. So if you let this league into

657
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,960
free agency, what value do you have of even resigning

658
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,279
if he gets thirty million dollars a year. You're still

659
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,240
trying to plan your books around Trey Murphy's new deal.

660
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,680
You have CJ. McCollum still there. I'm assuming you're going

661
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440
to pay Zion Williamson. You have Dejenttey Murray. This team

662
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:49,960
doesn't want to pay the tax. We just they're in

663
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:51,559
it right now, but they're gonna get out of it.

664
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,279
Everyone knows that their fans know it, even if they

665
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,039
don't want to admit it, and everyone around the league

666
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,000
knows it. You can get a first round pick for

667
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:00,000
Brandon Ingram. I'm not saying he's a terrible basketball player,

668
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
but the Pelicans have virtually no leverage the way that

669
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:03,279
things are going now.

670
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: The Pelicans, but like you basically made it true that

671
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,079
you don't want to pay him the amount of money

672
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,319
that he wants. So getting any type of capital for

673
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:18,000
him is pretty interesting. Yeah, sign me a blockbuster deal

674
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:21,599
Brandon Negro Golden sat Warriors. Can we convince him to

675
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,200
shoot more threes? I'm just talking.

676
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about that trade now this.

677
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: Year, he's been shooting a lot of threes. They a'n't

678
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,440
going in, but he's been shooting a lot of threes.

679
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,519
I would expect him to turn that around. Okay, Houston

680
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:36,440
Rockets Ducky Robinson for jacque Lyndale jay Sean Tait in

681
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,559
a second round pick. I mean sure, I guess a

682
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,400
few of the Rockets just to get more shooting out there.

683
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:43,039
I was hoping that the Rockets trade had to do

684
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,200
with Fred van Vlieta some here.

685
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I'm not even a shot at

686
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,960
Kenny here. And Rocket sans are mad about this trade.

687
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,400
In part, I think they were mad that I traded

688
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640
tarise in places and they don't. I shouldn't say all

689
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,440
of them, and it's fine if you want to say no.

690
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,640
But here's my pet peeve, and maybe I should wait

691
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,400
until we get to one of those trades. We'll see

692
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,200
if Kenny even mentions it. So let's look at this

693
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,640
trade specifically. You're giving up two players that don't factor

694
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,799
into your long term. I know Jock Landel's played some,

695
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,359
but they're basically two expiring contracts. You get to keep

696
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Jeff Green two, who's viewed as this important locker room presence.

697
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Your team just needs shooting. If you look at what

698
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,759
the Rockets like they are, they profile as a contender

699
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,640
in basically every department, in large part because of what

700
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,559
they're doing defensively this year. It is bonkers. By the way,

701
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,400
in the rock anyone thinks the Rockets aren't for real.

702
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,559
They've one of the best net ratings in the league

703
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,200
against top ten teams in the league, so teams with

704
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,200
the ten best point differentials. I think the Rockets are

705
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,799
like fifth in point differential versus those teams. Their offense, yes,

706
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,160
it's hovering, I think tenth inefficiency. That's a good spot

707
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,759
to be but they are still They're twenty seventh in

708
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,079
three point to tenth eight and then they're twenty sixth

709
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,599
in three point accuracy. You get Duncan Robinson in there,

710
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:53,759
who's another year left on his contract. He can become

711
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,400
a nice expiring money anchor if you ever want to

712
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,680
make that big deal. I think he comes in, you

713
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,279
play him, you don't play him a different look against

714
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,160
certain teams to get that three point volume up and

715
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,279
diversify the offense. I thought this was a really good trade,

716
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,400
and Rockets fans destroyed it. I don't know if they

717
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,920
were expecting a star name, but I viewed that after

718
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,160
they extended Shangun and Jalen Green, as a decision that's

719
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,359
going to be made over the offseason or just later

720
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,960
on when it's easier to trade Jalen Green specifically, or

721
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,359
when they just have more information on this team. They

722
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
were still rolling when I proposed this, so I don't know,

723
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,720
like adding Duncan Robinson maybe consolidating a little bit. Jehaun

724
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,359
Tate gets a chance to play more in Miami. I

725
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,079
was just surprised that Rockets fans didn't like this. Maybe

726
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,799
it's not gonna make them a contender. But I feel

727
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,680
like the only reason to dislike this would be you

728
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:43,599
want them to make a bigger move, and I just

729
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,319
think not that they're too good to do it. I

730
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640
just I'm waiting on it. You're good enough now to

731
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,960
be in the playoff conversation where some even want to

732
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,559
say that their title contenders. Why not kind of fortify

733
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,160
one of your biggest weaknesses and maybe that helps you

734
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,359
glean even more information from the players that are already

735
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400
on a team. So the response from Rockets fans, where

736
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,640
I'm not really as active on Twitter as much, but

737
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:06,240
if I get tagged, I will see it a lot

738
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,400
of time, they were pretty pissed off about this, and

739
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,519
that honestly surprised me.

740
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,519
Speaker 2: Start I'm in Thompson, hashtag it. Next Indiana Pacers Hayward

741
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,759
heigh Smith. Also, this is just this is his time

742
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,480
for the Miami Heat to sail. They trade Dugan Robinson

743
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:23,839
in this trade. Now they're trading Heywood heigh Smith and

744
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,640
this next one.

745
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, it's what the Heat should still do.

746
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,720
I know they're playing a little bit better, but it's

747
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,599
it's time to sell in Miami. I don't is that

748
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,519
a spicy take. Let me also know that in the

749
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,480
comments are coming our discord and answer the question is

750
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:37,160
is it a hot takedown to just say that the

751
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Miami needs to move on and if you want to

752
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,640
view mam Adebayo, Jimayakas and Tyler Hero as the core,

753
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,880
but it's just time to trade everyone else. That's kind

754
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,400
of where I'm still at with Miami.

755
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,279
Speaker 2: For two second round picks, that would be a como

756
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,000
for the Pacers. I can't lie, Hayward heis Smith is

757
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,279
a good defensive player, So sign me up with you

758
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,759
the Pacers. I guess if you're saying sale with the heat,

759
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,440
two second round picks ain't too bad for Heyward Smith.

760
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,119
But uh yeah, I don't know if they're locking. This

761
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,799
Is this a Kobe White track?

762
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,279
Speaker 1: He's Oh boy, I forgot about the Kobe White trade. Yeah,

763
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,599
I mean it would have to be predicated on Miami

764
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,559
just deciding to rebuild, which we know that they don't

765
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,000
necessarily do. But if you're gonna get your you're shedding money.

766
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:19,279
You're saving your tax bill here because you're not taking

767
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,599
back any players. You're just getting two seconds, which, by

768
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,480
the way, Dallas twenty twenty eight second eh, they have

769
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Luca like that's probably with Derek Lively no UTAs second

770
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,559
twenty seven. That could still be a pick in the thirties.

771
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,960
Jazz stands would riot if it is, but not nothing.

772
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240
I hope anyone who is watching on YouTube listens.

773
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: Still to watch this video. But off seriousness, obviously the

774
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,839
worst trade ever ever drawn up in the history of tracks.

775
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,240
All right, Terrence Man, Terrence Man in a first round pick,

776
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,160
top one, protected for two years, and it turns into

777
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,799
two seconds if it doesn't convey so and there's a

778
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960
world where I trade Kobe White for two second round picks.

779
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,279
Basically what hold on, hold on I wrote this article

780
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,599
was this Steve Ballmer himself.

781
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:12,279
Speaker 1: My name, I have dozens of followers, We have dozens

782
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,200
of followers on the YouTube channel. It's disrespectful that Kenny

783
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,960
doesn't know who we are. So just to clarify, Terrence Man,

784
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,200
whatever on offense, he could still defend. So Chicago wants

785
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
to roll that out there, it's a this is one

786
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,359
being proposed from the Clippers perspective. It's fine. If Chicago

787
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,880
wants to push for more. You're gonna get twenty thirty

788
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,880
first round pick from the Clippers and it's top one protected,

789
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,359
so unless they win the draft lottery, maybe you could

790
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,160
broker let's turn let's turn off the protections. Then just

791
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640
the Clippers twenty thirty or twenty thirty one first round

792
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000
pick for Kobe White plus a contract in Terrence Man.

793
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,599
That's not I mean, I guess post extension you're not

794
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,559
crazy about it, but someone you could move around, at

795
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,359
least defensively on the wings. I think this is a

796
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,960
better trade than just laughing it off. But I take

797
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,759
I take Kenny's point as a Bulls fan seriously because

798
00:33:57,799 --> 00:33:59,680
clearly this this does not appeal to him.

799
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 2: Kenny in twenty thirty, who knows what the clip is

800
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:05,640
going to look like? And I, hey, I completely completely agree.

801
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,280
I'm not about to tray my boy Alec Jacobe White

802
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,320
for something that doesn't give Fay for five six years.

803
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:14,760
And that's why I'm not the general man Joe the team,

804
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920
because I would hold on to my pieces like that.

805
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,679
Speaker 1: Well, I think Kenny's selling him short here a little bit.

806
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239
I think anyone could do a better job than Aka

807
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,360
and Company right now, but he makes it really and

808
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:28,159
I don't mean to sound shocked here, this has been

809
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,199
I've actually enjoyed this. He hasn't liked him any of

810
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,199
the trades, but this has been kind of fun for me.

811
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:34,599
I'm trying to get the hang of reacting to someone

812
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,960
reacting to something I did. Though I'm not someone who

813
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,880
likes to be super self involved or even promote my

814
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,239
own work. When it's done in tandem with Grant, I

815
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,519
love it, like I feel like we're a team. But

816
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,280
this just feels a little vain, and we also know

817
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,599
that I'm just overly sensitive around these parts. Anyway. He

818
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,440
makes an awesome point where if you're running a team

819
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,519
you don't, especially an Ak's case, you're probably not the

820
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,800
one who's making that twenty thirty selection and so objectively

821
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,119
in a vacuum. From my perspective, that twenty thirty first

822
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,199
round pick has a crap ton of value. When you're

823
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480
looking at Kobe White's contract situation where he's only gonna

824
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,360
be cheap for another year, then he's gonna need a

825
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920
mega deal, probably a point where the bulls still aren't good.

826
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,519
It still would make sense to me, how much can

827
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:16,000
you get from now now? If you can get something

828
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,559
more imminent, a better return than this, that's not that's

829
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,079
neither here nor there. But a twenty thirty first round

830
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,320
pick is the primary draw will always be a little

831
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,800
bit of a problem because teams are gonna want something

832
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,920
that gives them more instant gratification. I do recognize that

833
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,280
a Terrence Man wouldn't do that. It's also I'll loop

834
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,679
this back to the mcal Bridges trade, specifically with the Knicks.

835
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,239
People were wondering, why would you give up so many

836
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,280
draft picks for a non star. It was a valid question.

837
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,760
I'm not about to poo poo all over it, and

838
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,199
obviously you could. You could put pool all over it,

839
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,960
given how mchal Bridges has played for a lot of

840
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
this year. But they didn't send out any usable bodies

841
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,639
for the Nets, no cornerstone prospect. It was boy On

842
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,639
Bogdanovitch as the outgoing salary, then a bunch of sign

843
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,199
and trade witchcraft thermatology that they did to make the

844
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,039
math work. When you're not iin't got any players. Teams

845
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,199
like to get back something immediate, so you were getting

846
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,760
draft equity. But when there are no players attached, or

847
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,880
no one you view as someone to monitor, I do

848
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,519
think that inherently ups the cost. Or in this case,

849
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
let's say you can use the twenty thirty first round

850
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,719
or as the primary draw. You need to figure out

851
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,320
a way to include something else that's attractive to the

852
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,199
present for Chicago, not just to appease the fan base

853
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,800
or in this case, ownership, because we know Chicago's ownership

854
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,039
is just dumb as hell when it comes to this.

855
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,719
But like Ak and Cod, they're not going to be

856
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,679
the ones making that pick. And so I understand the

857
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,199
hesitants to say, well, let's just accept that to move

858
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,639
what is probably their most valuable who would be the

859
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,199
more valuable trade ass on this team other than Kobe White.

860
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,000
So I do understand Kenny's disdain for this deal.

861
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, to write it, Simia, don send this to

862
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Adam Silver right here, right now, Big vouch Man, a

863
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,840
big coach, has been playing really good basketball, if.

864
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: You have, so the trade here doesn't seem like you

865
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,760
mentioned it or I cut it off. Is Nicolo Vucevic

866
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,800
to the Lakers for d'anzel, Russell, Christian Wood and then

867
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,000
a second round pick that'll come via the Clippers. The

868
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,800
thinking just here being vuch has been playing well, having

869
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,079
the most efficient offensive season of his career without really

870
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:14,320
doing a lot differently, but he's older, he has another

871
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,280
year left on his deal. To number that's twenty plus

872
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,199
million not going to be palatable to a lot of teams.

873
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,920
I believe any Bulls fans or members of the Bulls

874
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,440
round offs who thinks they can get a first round

875
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,920
pick for Nicolo Vucevic are sorely mistaken.

876
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,639
Speaker 2: I noticed defensively is not the greatest. But if he's

877
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,519
getting traded to the Lakers where he didn't have Anthony

878
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:34,920
Davis there with them, I think he's the perfect player

879
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,639
for them. I would love to get a first round

880
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,239
pick for Vusovic. If we can't, I just don't know

881
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,159
if it's value. It would be like that, just because

882
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:42,880
so many teams across basketball already have their center. So

883
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,760
who's trading the first round pick? I don't know. I

884
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,639
actually hate this straight but I love it at the

885
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:50,599
same time. Mostly love it because still where where he

886
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,239
can play to compete a little bit. I hate it

887
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,360
because we don't really get anything from it. But sometimes

888
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,960
you just got to bite the bullet and say, hey,

889
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,039
we're trading the player. We're not getting anything back that

890
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:00,679
we like. It's grizzly.

891
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: This is interesting as he moves on at the Grizzlies

892
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,760
really quickly. Is the Lakers defense has been so bad

893
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,119
that I don't think you could just say, well, let's

894
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,360
put like Vujo grab rebounds. At least that might free

895
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,199
up Anthony Davis a little bit. But just having Anthony

896
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,880
Davis around him, this might actually be one the Lakers say,

897
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,119
Oh no, so we're giving up someone who's more of

898
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,880
a shot creator, table setter. With D'Angel Russell. You can

899
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,400
run some stuff through Vouch, but now your two of

900
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,000
your three primary offensive hubs are big men on that team.

901
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,599
They might not be crazy about it, but you don't

902
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,000
have to give up a first round pick, and you've

903
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,039
been in the market for a big man. I still

904
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,079
think they would do the trade.

905
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: It's Deandrey Hunter and Big Creggie for Brandon Clark John Consar.

906
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,639
For some reason, Brandon Clark is like, in my mind,

907
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,840
like a Nick Hollison type of player, where he's gonna

908
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,079
spend this entire career in Memphis. I don't know how

909
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,519
true that is. I don't know if they see him

910
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,360
like that. But if you're saying no, DeAndre and Hunter

911
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:47,119
is just one of those players that it is hard

912
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:49,079
for me to gage like who he is as a guy.

913
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,159
Sometimes he looks like, oh yeah, you gonna have a

914
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,159
twenty game stritcher. We're like, oh, snap, you shoulot a

915
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,639
forty percent from three and he's averaging sixteen points and

916
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,519
I'm watching him play and he gets lost on the

917
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,559
course still even when me saying that. But if it's

918
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,719
costing you two second round picks and some stuff, I

919
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
guess it's not that bad of a trade. And y'all

920
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,239
know I love when Vic Craigie end up on a

921
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,599
good team.

922
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that if I'm Atlanta. Just to be clear,

923
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,480
the full deal being DeAndre Hunter vic Craigie for Brandon Clark,

924
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,719
John Conchore and two second round picks, one of which

925
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,679
is Atlanta's own. I don't want. I don't want necessarily

926
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,880
Clark's money on my books. If I'm Atlanta. He continues

927
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,360
to be in certain pairings on the Grizzlies. He's going

928
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,400
to be a net rating darling and he probably has

929
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,400
their highest net ratings wing overall. But if you're Memphis

930
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,679
and you get off, you turn his money in contracts,

931
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,000
money into DeAndre Hunter, who looks since coming back this year,

932
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,800
he's playing pretty well. He's shooting over forty percent from

933
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,039
three on almost six attempts per game, averaging over eighteen

934
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,960
I don't know why you're doing that. If you're Atlanta,

935
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,159
the thought process would be, I mean, Vic Craigie hasn't

936
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:47,800
been playing as much. I still think he's like a

937
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,440
little bit of a diamond in the rough player who

938
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,199
does nothing elite but does a little bit of everything,

939
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,800
including on the defensive end. Has good size too, So

940
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,079
you probably need a first round pick if you're Atlanta.

941
00:39:58,119 --> 00:39:59,719
But I don't know that. Teams around the league view

942
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,719
Hunter contract as a net plus overall. If you have

943
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,400
Reesa say reesa shake, excuse me? And you have Dyson

944
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Daniels and you like the idea still of having excumeing.

945
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,320
You have Garrison Matthews on this team, who we've seen

946
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,639
him get some runs. You have Jalen Johnson. Could you

947
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,039
talk yourself into saying, hey, like, I guess we have

948
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,280
enough wings to kind of make it up. I'm still

949
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,239
not doing it if I'm in Atlanta. If I'm Memphis, though,

950
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,639
the search for their wings might be over when Gigi

951
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,119
Jackson's healthy and now they have Jalen Wells, who has

952
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:27,960
to be what top three or four Rookie of the

953
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Year voting? Who would be ahead of him? Steph Castle,

954
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,000
probably Jared McCain, and then I mean maybe Edie Who

955
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:35,639
am I forgetting there? So Jaane Wells is probably top

956
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,719
five Rookie of the Year candidate. The Grizzlies having two

957
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,559
top five Rookie of the Year candidates is kind of

958
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,039
feels like very on brand. But if I'm Memphis, I'm

959
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,880
doing that deal in a heartbeat. Rod to this Miami

960
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Heat trade, which I know I traded Jimmy Butler. They

961
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,199
were going through some stuff and still are, but the

962
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:53,599
situation was worse. We'll have to see what Kenny thinks

963
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:54,199
I sent him.

964
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: To the Miami Heat. Oh here's the one. Oh, here's

965
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,079
the one. The Anthony Melton Andrew Wiggets a twenty twenty

966
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,599
five first, a twenty twenty six second swap, a twenty

967
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,559
twenty seven first, a twenty twenty eight second, and a

968
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,480
twenty thirty first round pick protected number twenty one to

969
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,920
thirty for Jimmy Butler, Bruno, Fernando, Josh Richardson, and then

970
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:22,159
again the Toronto Raptors get Gary Payton and some other stuff. WHOA,

971
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,920
that is a lot, man. I agree.

972
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,039
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at this and there's this was done

973
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,280
to make the money work. You go different routes, giving

974
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,719
up Melton's not as big of a deal now that

975
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,320
he's injured. But you're looking at Kaminga Wiggins GP two

976
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,320
and then three first round picks, So a twenty twenty

977
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
five first round pick and then a twenty twenty seven

978
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,400
first round pick. So it's two first and two swaps.

979
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Oh no, it's no, it's it's one swap and three

980
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:50,000
first that's too much for Jimmy Butler. I'll even agree.

981
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,519
I'm curious as to what my logic would be at

982
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,360
the time. Like I know I wrote, you can go

983
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,760
read this article. I would highly suggest it help keep

984
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,280
me employed. But three for too much I would get

985
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,760
rid of, like maybe this year's first or can you

986
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,920
get rid of one of the swaps and one of

987
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,199
the first At this point where it's if it's Kaminga

988
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,280
Wiggins additional salary and then like two first somewhat reasonable.

989
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Even Golden State might say that's too much, giving Jimmy

990
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Butler's age. I think, Kenny, I'm assuming I'm looking at

991
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,119
his face right now, He's probably about to shit all

992
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:20,239
over this, and I don't blame him.

993
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:25,599
Speaker 2: And I can't convince myself that at this stage of

994
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:28,440
Jimmy Butler's career he's worth all of this. Am I crazy?

995
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:30,599
Maybe I'm not crazy. No, but at this stage of

996
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,000
Jimmy Bowl's career, I don't know if I could convince

997
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,559
myself that this is worth it.

998
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,159
Speaker 1: It's not. They might Miami might have more leverage given

999
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,760
how much Golden State's offense has recently suffered, But this

1000
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
is with Jimmy Butler might be headed towards a new deal,

1001
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,920
or maybe they look at it as, oh, he'll need

1002
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,599
a new deal, but he'll make less per year. And

1003
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:49,880
this is still someone who Okay, yeah, he's dealing with

1004
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,719
knee issues at the moment, but like in his fourteen

1005
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,119
games this year, hasn't shot the ball too well from three,

1006
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,679
but still hitting. He doesn't take many of them anymore.

1007
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,920
He's actually taking fewer than last year. I thought that

1008
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,960
number might come up this year, but still hitting fifty

1009
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,800
seven percent of his sues, can still playmate, can still defend.

1010
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,760
I think I would give up if the cost was

1011
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,239
cominga And look, what makes this tough is that Golden

1012
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,039
State people are complaining about how deep their rotation is.

1013
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:16,400
But then if you make trades any given player I guess,

1014
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
aside from Melton that is injured, that you give up

1015
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,519
in a vacuum, they're gonna claim is too important. If

1016
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,199
you want to replace and get fungible with some of

1017
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,039
this salary, where can you work it with a Kevon

1018
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:26,960
Looney going out? Do you want to try and keep

1019
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,360
Kaminga as part of this? I think the equivalent of

1020
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,199
Wiggins other salary and then two first round picks in

1021
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,239
a swap. So whether you whether it's Jonathan Kaminga a

1022
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,320
first round pick and a swap or two first round

1023
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,039
picks in a swap without Kminga going out, I think

1024
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:44,199
it's I think that would still be your reasonal price

1025
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,719
for Golden State to pay. But I do agree with

1026
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Kenny kind of looking back that this was too much

1027
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
of an aggressive offer. Now, if you're Miami, you absolutely

1028
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,440
do it. That's what you should propose, So that's the

1029
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,000
perspective it's coming from. But even by those standards, this

1030
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:56,639
was too much.

1031
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Even if that does make the war years of contender

1032
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,840
for a year, right, this is just a little bit

1033
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,079
too much for my like am, because Amy Butler just

1034
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,079
doesn't look as good as he looked two years ago,

1035
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,880
or all of his stats are just down across the board.

1036
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,679
And I'm not even just talking about the traditional status

1037
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,760
points per game rebuster for games. We're talking about eficiency.

1038
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,000
We're talking about his foul drawing rate. We're talking about

1039
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,639
the rate in which he wants to have the offensive.

1040
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,400
Look like, there's a lot and I'm not saying he's

1041
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,199
not worth getting traded at all for the Warriors, but

1042
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,599
like you're telling me, we're giving away three real rotational

1043
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:33,000
pieces and then three first round picks in a swap.

1044
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,199
That's just a little bit too rich for me personally,

1045
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:36,159
and that's fair.

1046
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: And I think look, one pointed someone on the Warrior's

1047
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,039
roster who's not a member of the rotation that coulds

1048
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,079
probably Moses Moody Melton now injury. I think that makes

1049
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:46,400
putting his salary in a little more palatable.

1050
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: At least.

1051
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: It's too much, though in a vacuum, if it's when

1052
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,119
you look at at it through the lens of Wiggins

1053
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,400
kaminga three first and a swap. I think, if if

1054
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,519
you have to include Kamena, if Miami's insisting on that.

1055
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:58,960
I probably still do it. I'm not as big of

1056
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,800
a believer in as some others are. If it's Wiggins

1057
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,800
kaminga first round picking a swap and then you have

1058
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,320
to you're gonna have to throw money in to make

1059
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,320
the math work. You can choose the contracts then that

1060
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,000
you want. But if you compare Jimmy Butler with Draymond

1061
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Green and Steph Curry for the next two to three years,

1062
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,719
I really do believe you can make stuff happen and

1063
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,320
Golden State's defense hell fire as it is, you put

1064
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,199
Jimmy Butler in there kind of, I guess in place

1065
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960
of Andrew Wiggins. I'm trying to figure out a way

1066
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,400
to keep GP two in that scenario. But I do

1067
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:27,480
think Jimmy Butler could materially help Golden State.

1068
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:29,599
Speaker 2: If you're the Miami Heat, I think you said yes

1069
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,440
it is in a heartbeat, though, yees, just because that's

1070
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,920
how bad the Miami he have lickd the season, and

1071
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,039
you'll tell me I could get some first round draft

1072
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:37,360
capital that much first round draft capital and get a

1073
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800
younger guy that we're gonna have to extend. But regardless,

1074
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,280
cominga could potentially be a building block for us. I

1075
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,400
think you said, yes, it is deal if you're Miami.

1076
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,239
I don't know if I'm even out of my old

1077
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Golden State Warriors. The Bucks whoa Dylan Brooks Tarry Easa

1078
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,039
for Chris Middleton in a first Hey, I.

1079
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:57,079
Speaker 1: Was I'm gonna get out in front of this because

1080
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,840
this was the trade that rockets or one of them

1081
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,360
we're just so angry with. They said, why would we

1082
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,039
want washed Chris Middleton, which I think is fair because

1083
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:09,280
he does have a player option. But Chris Middleton could

1084
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,599
actually help this offense when he's fully healthy. He has

1085
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,840
yet to play this season, though, but a twenty thirty

1086
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,559
one first round pick which had top one protection on it,

1087
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,480
you can try and pull that off. If you're getting

1088
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:22,760
the Bucks' twenty thirty one first round pick, that's the

1089
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,159
genesis of the value. Maybe that's not enough. Tar Eason's

1090
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,880
played really well on defense this year, not hitting as

1091
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,440
much of his threes, and I don't think he's maybe

1092
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,199
branched out his offense enough. I get well, you don't

1093
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:36,039
want to trade him, But if your goal is to

1094
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,800
turn around and trade for a star, I think you

1095
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,519
can ask the question this is moving forward. What's more

1096
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,599
valuable the Bucks twenty thirty one first round pick or

1097
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,880
Tar East and then Dylan Brooks. I think the answer

1098
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,760
probably still is Tar Eiston and Dylan Brooks. And again,

1099
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,519
this was being proposed from Milwaukee's perspective. I will never

1100
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,599
expect fans casual, religious, whatever. I really try not to

1101
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,599
insult whatever stereotypes we want to throw at fans and

1102
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:02,000
how they want to follow the league. However you want

1103
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,239
to follow the league, enjoy the league, I think you should.

1104
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,800
But I do think that we all should probably understand

1105
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,599
the value of a distant first round pick a little

1106
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,199
bit better, because I really do believe that there's gonna

1107
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:14,559
be another one where it's like, why would we want

1108
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920
kJ Martin's ass back on this team? And you're just

1109
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,719
not even gonna mention a distant first round pick coming in.

1110
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,360
I think it's a Clippers pick. That's why I wish

1111
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,800
this change. I'm not expecting Rockets fans to like this trade.

1112
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,960
And in retrospect, I thought Middleton might be playing by now,

1113
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,679
so I thought this trade might look a little bit

1114
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:33,400
more tried, And look, I really do believe he could

1115
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,440
help their offense. Anyone who is not. If you're a

1116
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,320
Rockets standing, you haven't watched a lot of Bucks like that.

1117
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,639
Dude's been so important to basically every single playoffs, even

1118
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:42,840
the ones they've bowed out early and played super well.

1119
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,639
He won't cannibalize touches from anyone else. You have the

1120
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,119
defensive infrastructure to insulate him because he's slipped there on

1121
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:51,280
that end. But he's injured. Owed a bunch of money

1122
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,960
the season after next. I understand why Rockets fans didn't

1123
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,360
like this. I would just like to note I'm not

1124
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,679
saying I'm right all the time. I try to own

1125
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,840
up to my mistakes or when my opinion diverges and

1126
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,400
it proves to be wrong. Hashtag I was okay with

1127
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,039
the timberwolve. I talk myself into this. Timberwolves trading Carlafy

1128
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,679
Towns takes a may colpus for that. Now, why don't

1129
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,239
we I just a twenty thirty one first round pick,

1130
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,119
even if you don't think your front office values it

1131
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920
for the Rockets specifically, you add that to some of

1132
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,159
these Phoenix picks that you've now acquired just with your

1133
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:23,960
other stash of assets. I let's not underestimate the usefulness

1134
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:24,920
of it is all I'll.

1135
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,079
Speaker 2: Say so, so we'd be talking about this a lot.

1136
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,079
The Bucks have not looked amazing the season, which.

1137
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,199
Speaker 1: By the way, the other thing after note the Bucks

1138
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,119
have just rattled off a bunch of victories. The defense

1139
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,280
looks great. They might say you no to this deal

1140
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,440
because they're looking at it through this lens and saying, Okay,

1141
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,079
this gets us younger, more athletic. But our problem right

1142
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:44,039
now is probably offense where you want another primary shot

1143
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,599
creator to where that's not Giannis isn't the typical when

1144
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,960
you look at the direction the directionality of how he

1145
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,440
plays basketball, like he has the mid range going this year,

1146
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,679
he can get going downhill, he has more counters. But

1147
00:48:55,679 --> 00:48:58,159
when you're looking at someone breaking down set defenses and

1148
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,639
having a bunch of counters and maybe running pick and rolls,

1149
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,760
you need someone other than a Damian Lillard in that spot.

1150
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,519
You don't want Dylan Brooks or Charie Easton doing it.

1151
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:08,599
Chris Middleton's that guy. So there is a chance the

1152
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:11,079
Bucks looking at this is well, what is Giannis's future.

1153
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:13,199
We're giving up our last best trade chip in twenty

1154
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,239
thirty one, and we're trading someone who want a title

1155
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,440
alongside Giannis, who we think fixes what is our biggest

1156
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,679
issue right now. There's a chance they say no to

1157
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,199
this as well. Just want to point that out.

1158
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:24,079
Speaker 2: It's the tradeable piece that they have. And the real

1159
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:28,400
answer was they have a pick. Nobody's probably gonna want

1160
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,000
brick low Pez other than the Lakers. But if you're

1161
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,440
trading him to the Lakers, what do you get it

1162
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,880
back to? Helps Dame and Giannis. Right now, nobody really

1163
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,119
wants Bobby Portous. That's gonna bring you anything back. So

1164
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,000
it's like, is it Chris Middleton? And then here we

1165
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:42,159
are with a trade that is Chris Midleton oriented. The

1166
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,639
problem is you cannot break up Tarry Easton and aman Thompson.

1167
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,960
So I think that's an automatic non starter.

1168
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:52,159
Speaker 1: Which from the Rockets perspective, those two are they're wreaking havoc.

1169
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,840
I'm curious to see how many. I think the Rockets

1170
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,920
probably have like three or four all defense candidates at

1171
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,719
the moment, Dylan Brooks, Tarry and aman Thompson. And you

1172
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,679
could maybe throw Ja But I know people have been

1173
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,199
a little bit down on Jabari Smith Junior's offensive points

1174
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,199
this year, but he's still really important defensively to them.

1175
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,159
But I totally understand why the Rockets wouldn't do this.

1176
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,199
I would be curious, Bucks Stands. I want to know

1177
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,000
if you would do this trade Dylan Brooks and Tari

1178
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,119
Easton for Middleton and your twenty thirty one pick for

1179
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,199
the Houston Rockets.

1180
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,039
Speaker 2: But if we look past that, this is the type

1181
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,519
of trade I will be trying to get for Chris Middleton,

1182
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,559
just like, yeah, we're trading away a guy that could

1183
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,199
be an All Star, and the posts the last year

1184
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,079
showed us that that all star thing could still be

1185
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,440
a case, but we want to trade him away from

1186
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,920
some depth pieces, two potential starters for one starter.

1187
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: But I look, they did sign Jay Crowder too since

1188
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,960
this published, so they're clearly thinking alongside those lines. This

1189
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,400
was kind of before they pulled the AJ Green and

1190
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:48,639
Andre Jackson junior buttons and Jackson. Doc Rivers has a

1191
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:50,320
short hook with him, but he's defended really well. Actually

1192
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,039
think Green has defended pretty well too. I honestly wonder

1193
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:54,719
I don't the Rockets. Stands will probably be mad at this.

1194
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,960
That's fine, they don't want to trade Tari Easton. I

1195
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,280
get it. I've they've been mad at me in the

1196
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,800
past for sending him a differ. I just think he's

1197
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,320
someone that every team should want, and you look at

1198
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,800
the Rockets structure their team what they need most. The

1199
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:07,800
payday's coming up. That's why I'm thinking alongside those lines.

1200
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,719
If you think Jabari Smith Junior is more likely to

1201
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,840
go after the shan Gun extension, I'm not gonna fight

1202
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,079
you on it. I'm very curious to know if Bucks

1203
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:15,920
fans would do this trade, though, I really do. If

1204
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,840
you're again watching listening to this, let me know.

1205
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't think the Houston Rockets are interested in is Whatsoe.

1206
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,599
I agree. I do believe that Dylan Brooks could potentially

1207
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,559
be moved, but like Tari on top of that would

1208
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:27,639
just be too much. I believe Minnesota timble was get

1209
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,039
de Lono Ben. Would de Lono just lit them boys up?

1210
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:33,039
Last night when I was watching for PJ. Dozer in

1211
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:34,880
a second round pick, all right.

1212
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,159
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, he's gonna blow through this. Delano Banton's

1213
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:41,320
been balling out for Portland and Minnesota desperately needs like

1214
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,679
some type of other game manager. I guess that's not

1215
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Benton's forte, but just as kind of an alternative to well,

1216
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360
can we play Rob Dillingham in these moments. I think

1217
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400
the Kilexander Walker has been playing well enough, but he's

1218
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:54,760
just not a point guard. I haven't loved some of

1219
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,199
the situations they've put him in, mostly earlier in this season.

1220
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,360
If the timberlves got de Lono Benton, I really think

1221
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,519
that would be like a coup for them. But I

1222
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:05,599
understand why you're gonna skip over that, Kenny, I get it.

1223
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: The Pelican's another brandon Ingram trade. This is brandon Ingem

1224
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,000
to the Memphis Grizzies for Brandon Clark, Marcus Smart, Vince Williams,

1225
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:12,960
Juni in a first round pick topic protected through twenty

1226
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,320
twenty seven turns to two seconds of not convey for

1227
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,679
brandon Ingram. So that puts them in the world where

1228
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,440
it is Jah, it is Bane, it is Ingram, it

1229
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,400
is Jaron in it this eady. I kind of like

1230
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,840
that five a lot. Sometimes I do watch them and

1231
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,880
say that they need a little bit more spice into

1232
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,480
their creation.

1233
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,519
Speaker 1: They do. I mean, look, their offense is in like

1234
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:34,199
the top six or seven right now, but they still

1235
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,119
struggle in the half court outside of the offensive rebounds,

1236
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,679
Like this is once again a grizzly team whose offensive

1237
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,599
success even for the most part when they've been healthy,

1238
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:44,760
which they always seem to be banged up. This is

1239
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,519
probably the healthiest they've been in quite some time. And

1240
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:48,840
they're still just missing dudes. But you're looking at Okay,

1241
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,480
they're fifth in points scored per possession. That's really good,

1242
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,159
but they are still around the bottom ten and half

1243
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:58,800
court efficiency. Now, they do a good job of generating

1244
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,079
second chance opportunities, they're not hyper efficient on those plays

1245
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:03,960
right now relative to the rest of the league. And

1246
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,960
so Brandingham would give you another shot creator and if

1247
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,800
it's costing you Marcus smart salary, Brandon Clark's salary, and

1248
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,800
then the Vince Williams Junior in the first of it all.

1249
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:14,840
If you're the Pelicans, you just do this like it's

1250
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,360
time to get off the Brandon Ingram money. Now you

1251
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,960
have money on the books for next year and Clark

1252
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,920
and Smart, but to get a look at Vince Williams

1253
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,480
Junior as well as an additional first round pick. You

1254
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:24,760
do it just the situation you're in his New Orleans.

1255
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:26,880
If you're Memphis, maybe you push back and say we

1256
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,239
don't want to give up the first, or we don't

1257
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,159
want to give up Vince Williams Junior. Maybe you could

1258
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:32,960
work it that way. They would be a team where like,

1259
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:35,679
if this is the cost, or if you could get

1260
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,960
it down from let's include somebody else other than Vince

1261
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Williams Junior. Here, I could talk myself into Memphis doing

1262
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,159
this and saying, even if we don't resign him and

1263
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,239
let him walk, it was worth it. Like Clark can

1264
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,000
be a good player, but the smart trade has kind

1265
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,400
of gone awry for them. He's had better moments since

1266
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,119
he's returned to the lineup, but I don't love the

1267
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,360
fit in Ingram. But it would for this cost or

1268
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,800
a little bit less, I think it would be an

1269
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,760
interesting flyer for Memphis.

1270
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,199
Speaker 2: Their offensive creation. I think Brandon Nigro can provide that

1271
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:03,039
you are committing a lot of money to that core, though,

1272
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,800
because you already have jarn and Bain and locked up

1273
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,599
and then to lock up. Yet maybe that's not a problem.

1274
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,239
Maybe that is a core that you're willing to go with.

1275
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: M Probably not. Jaron Jecks Junior is gonna be coming

1276
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:17,280
up on an a deal. You've paid Banying, you paid Morant,

1277
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,119
like he mentioned, you don't have to start paying some

1278
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,480
of these cheaper guys at certain points. Two of Vince

1279
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,360
Williams Junior or Gigi Jackson, even in Jallen Wells as

1280
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,360
a second round pick. I'm looking ahead for a year

1281
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:29,440
maybe two. It's tenable if you look at it as

1282
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,599
okay as of right now, like it's not changing the

1283
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:33,760
math of their salary structure at all by trading Clark

1284
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,880
and Marcus mart Could you float it for a year

1285
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,480
and then maybe try it or two and stomach it

1286
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:41,239
if you're good enough, I think as a flyer, if

1287
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,960
I'm Memphis, I'd still just be interested to see what

1288
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,400
it would look like with Bretton Ingram.

1289
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: The Marcuts smart thing didn't last very long. I mean,

1290
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:49,079
I just I don't know if I've seen it at

1291
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:51,639
all for more than forty minutes in a season or

1292
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:54,719
two of Vince Williams Junior is a really good prospect

1293
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,400
a half, but he hasn't been able to play this year.

1294
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,159
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, Vince william Junior, by the way, he's

1295
00:54:58,159 --> 00:54:59,800
like six to four, but he's a wing and he

1296
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,000
can give you some like point guard stuff, which is

1297
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:05,400
I mean, yes, you have Scottie Pippen junior. You have

1298
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:07,320
John Morant, you have Desmond Bayane. But on this team,

1299
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,920
with the amount of injuries that pile up and how

1300
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,559
topsy turvy, I would say, to put a charitably, Marcus

1301
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,239
Smart has been that's not giving up. That's not nothing

1302
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,679
to consider. But again, you're getting Ingram who provides the

1303
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,119
creation and theory that you're losing in Smart and a health.

1304
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:19,800
Evince Williams.

1305
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: Mine is trade. I don't think nice, don't I don't

1306
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,480
trade the Knicks to money Kamara and Robert Williams for

1307
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:29,000
Cameron Payne, Mitchell Robinson, a first round pick via Washington

1308
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,800
top protect, top to protect. It's got some protects on regardless,

1309
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,039
let's trade one injured center for another injured center.

1310
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: RW three eight injured, no more Kenny. That makes his

1311
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,440
trade a home run.

1312
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: I think it would be hard to convince Blazers fans

1313
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,320
to trade to money Kamar regard.

1314
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,599
Speaker 1: I agree that Blazers fans are pissed about this too.

1315
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,920
He's leveled up on offense, I think, and he is

1316
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,079
still I really hesitate to say this because I'm guilty

1317
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,199
of it as well, just throwing around these terms like

1318
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,000
star or in this case, five position defender. Demni's mars

1319
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
like a four and a half position defender, and he's

1320
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,519
been hitting his threes this year and he can do

1321
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,280
a little bit of work going downhill. If you were

1322
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,039
getting Mitchell robb this was our w three was injured

1323
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:11,639
at the time. If you could say that Mitchell Robinson

1324
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,440
was gonna get healthy and you're getting that Wizard's first

1325
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,519
round pick, now, will it convey That's a big question.

1326
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,119
I'm not doing this on Portland, but Tomani Kamara be

1327
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,159
an excellent fit on the Knicks. That someone I think

1328
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,559
you could sub in and closing lineups if you decide

1329
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,239
we want to play small and Kat can't be there,

1330
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,480
or more likely if McHale Bridges is not holding up.

1331
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,119
I never thought I would have those words in there,

1332
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,840
or if we want to go to a different look

1333
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,239
from Josh Smart, Josh Hart, excuse me. I guess it

1334
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,239
gets iffy from the Knicks's perspective too, though, of I

1335
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,960
think Robert Wims the third could play with Kat probably

1336
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,719
could play at his peak, though you want him playing

1337
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,760
a fewer minutes than a healthy Mitchell Robinson, but he's

1338
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,760
more dynamic offensively. I still like this trade for the

1339
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,000
Knicks the first round pick plus r W three for

1340
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:56,039
basically Mitchell Robinson and that Washington Wizards first. But it's

1341
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,840
also tough with the Knicks because anyone you acquire in

1342
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,840
theory isn't gonna be a part if you're closing units.

1343
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,599
Was it worth it to consolidate because you could? You

1344
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,880
could recently say I'd rather have Mitchell Robinson an r

1345
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,719
W three. I think long term he'll be more healthier,

1346
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,320
can soak up more minutes playoff time, though r W

1347
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,280
three is gonna be the better player. Love this deal

1348
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,800
for New York I think, especially over recent weeks, given

1349
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,639
how good tomnic Kamar has been all year, I'm not

1350
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:20,840
doing this. If I'm Portland, I'd insist on more and

1351
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,159
the Knicks could throw in a Pacombe Dottier or Tyler Kohlik.

1352
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,000
But would that make the difference for Portland?

1353
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, see do a breath for two seconds, cy play

1354
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,880
that man. I don't think he's really played much this

1355
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,280
season because you got Aiden, you got Robert Williams back,

1356
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,800
you got Donovan Klington now started with Aiden being out

1357
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,599
as injury, it's just not really a lot of role

1358
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,400
for him. So yeah, sentn to a team where he

1359
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,519
could potentially play for a couple of weeks until they

1360
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:45,559
get some of their players back.

1361
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:47,719
Speaker 1: Duo Breathe not a high end guy, but he fits

1362
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,800
the mold of a floor spacing rim protector. Again, it's

1363
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,840
it's more of this makeshift solution or store brand solution.

1364
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,880
You're not going out there and getting a christophs Porzingis

1365
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,880
or prime Miles Turner. But just as like we don't

1366
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,280
want to give up any core assets, if we could

1367
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,400
put duopre ethon here and expand the big man rotation

1368
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,079
a little bit to.

1369
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:09,559
Speaker 2: Kobe White trade, I next, I'm just gonna turn down

1370
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,920
every Kobe White trade bro. Well, hold, my bias of

1371
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,239
my fandom is to play. I don't care. I'm not

1372
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,440
accepting a Kobe White trade bro. That's one.

1373
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:19,159
Speaker 1: Oh, it looks like he's gonna go through it, so

1374
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,960
I'll hold off before I go into it.

1375
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:25,199
Speaker 2: Is ever gonna get for the next two years, people

1376
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,920
drawing up Kobe White trades.

1377
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:29,719
Speaker 1: Dang dude, I hate that seventy well, so we're skipping it,

1378
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:35,159
all right, So you're getting from Orlando Cole Anthony, which whatever,

1379
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,559
Jet Howard and then two first round picks, so Jet

1380
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:41,760
Howard in two first round picks for Kobe White. Maybe

1381
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,039
that's not enough in Chicago's size. That's a real offer

1382
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,239
for Kobe White. You want Tristan to Silvans instead, we

1383
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,239
could talk about it. You want another first round pick

1384
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,199
instead of Jet Howard, we could talk about it. I

1385
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,280
think that trade was worth a mention. I respect Kenny

1386
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,480
for saying that his bias is showing here, but that's

1387
00:58:56,519 --> 00:58:58,039
not That wasn't a terrible offer.

1388
00:58:58,679 --> 00:59:02,559
Speaker 2: Six er Star Recent and Cam More for kJ Martin

1389
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,800
and a first round pick that's a second least favorable

1390
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,119
from all the teams, and then another first round pick

1391
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,519
from the Clippers twenty twenty eight. Clippers first round is

1392
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:11,960
sounds kind of angle life.

1393
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, I'm dying because he's over here

1394
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:21,920
kind of poohing on me giving twenty thirty first round

1395
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,559
pick for Kobe White. But that twenty Clippers first round

1396
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:30,159
pick is lit. I love this. That's great. I'm honestly

1397
00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:33,239
not shading him. I just find that I respect like

1398
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,840
the Bulls allegiance throw it through. Twenty twenty eight is closer.

1399
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,840
This is the trade. By the way, that Rockets fans

1400
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,480
were also angry about where the Sixers were getting Tari

1401
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Easton and Cam Whitmore for kJ Martin and two first

1402
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:46,920
round picks. Was it three first round picks? No, it

1403
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,760
was two first round picks, one of which was that

1404
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,639
Clippers twenty twenty eight does seem a little light. I

1405
00:59:51,719 --> 00:59:54,440
think my logic here's just that Cam Whitmore has not

1406
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,280
played a ton for them. It's not necessarily looks great

1407
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,320
this year when he has. You have all this prospect

1408
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,920
equity built up in Easton and Wentmore. I understand why

1409
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,960
you wouldn't want to do this trade. It wasn't about

1410
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,400
getting kJ Martin though, It was about getting two first

1411
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
round picks to load up on an offer for a star,

1412
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:11,280
and in this case is a twenty twenty six first

1413
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,840
round pick and a twenty twenty eight Clippers first round pick.

1414
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,880
Is that more valuable to a star trade than Tar

1415
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,119
east and Cam Whitmore next summer or moving down the line.

1416
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,800
Maybe your plane is to keep one of them while

1417
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,480
still getting a star if it is Hey, But there's

1418
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:26,719
value in getting those distant first round picks, is my point.

1419
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:29,239
Would I do this if I'm Houston? He answers, absolutely no.

1420
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: Tari eas and Cam Whitmore, get some young guys in there. Again,

1421
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:37,360
I'm not a fan of trade and Tari Easton, I'm

1422
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,800
not about Tari's is the highest commodity on the block.

1423
01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's been in what two or three trades?

1424
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,639
There's thirty teams. Come on, that's not There's about to

1425
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:48,920
be some recyclage there. And also it speaks to how

1426
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,760
valuable tar Esan is as well.

1427
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: If I create Houston Rockets fans, y'all, let me know

1428
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,679
what y'all think, because y'all watching the state more in

1429
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,239
depth than I am. Do you think your front office

1430
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,679
is more likely to trade Bari?

1431
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,519
Speaker 1: Or that's maybe that's the Maybe this is the origination

1432
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,079
of how much social media hate and even YouTube comments.

1433
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:10,079
There were someone on unrelated videos. Maybe they watched Kenny's video.

1434
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:12,159
Uh so they went and they found the link and

1435
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,360
then they found the Look, if you're gonna take those

1436
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,199
steps to find me, I'll out it pretty much. Whatever

1437
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:19,840
you could see. There's stuff were you across the line.

1438
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,079
But if you're gonna go the lengths of there's no

1439
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:24,800
link that I saw in Kenny's video description to the article,

1440
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,559
so you had to go find it, then find me

1441
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:29,159
on social media and decide that if I'm not gonna

1442
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:31,880
respond on Twitter, then I'm gonna go into hardwood Knox's

1443
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,320
YouTube comments. I'm not gonna lie. I respect that level

1444
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,320
of detail to getting angry at me, and I recognize

1445
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,679
that's why I'm able to make a living off this

1446
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:42,960
as people care about sports. I personally wouldn't go to

1447
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,480
those lengths to comment on a trade. I didn't do

1448
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:47,159
it to make people angry, though. I just want to

1449
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:49,719
make that clear. I do respect now that I'm thinking

1450
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,119
about this, like having watched it and kind of processing

1451
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,360
if that's what if Kenny is the one. If Kenny's video,

1452
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,320
not Kenny specifically, is how you got angry with me

1453
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:01,559
and then went out and found me. I really respect

1454
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:02,400
that shout out to you.

1455
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:07,119
Speaker 2: But another tar Resa Tray, Hey get a tar I'm

1456
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:08,760
not doing that one Portland.

1457
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: He's not going Well, hold on, okay, that trade again.

1458
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,000
You're getting Phoenix's twenty thirty first round pick and you're

1459
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,760
sending Tari Easton and then this year's first round pick.

1460
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,639
So what you're doing is it's the second most favorable

1461
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:22,559
so it's going to be a pick. Let's just say

1462
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,840
the number twenty five pick plus Tarry Easton for Phoenix's

1463
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,119
twenty thirty one first round pick, and rocket Stents were

1464
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:32,039
also mad, what do we want with josh Eshakogi? You don't,

1465
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:35,239
but his contract is expiring, and now you get this

1466
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,599
huge trade chip. And now I've mentioned this in the text,

1467
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:40,559
and I think that this, this one's at least to

1468
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,000
me worth a discussion. Rip out the twenty twenty four

1469
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:46,039
good keep keep the additional first round pick. Then, if

1470
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:49,119
you're getting Phoenixes twenty thirty first, when you already kind

1471
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:51,880
of control their fate in three separate years, I think

1472
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,039
it's twenty five, twenty seven, and twenty nine. That's like

1473
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,840
like you want Devin Booker or Kevin Durant, Like you

1474
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,840
got your AMMO right there. I don't love Kevin Durant

1475
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,519
for the I mean I love Kevin Rant for every team.

1476
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:03,880
I'm not giving up a ton though for someone his age,

1477
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,119
but for a Devin Booker like that was also part

1478
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,400
of the calculus here. Whereas you now just control so

1479
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:11,719
much of Phoenix is hugure that when they blow it up,

1480
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,719
they have no choice but to come calling to you first.

1481
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,800
And I think this, if it's Tara Eastan for Phoenix's

1482
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,079
twenty thirty one first round pick. I think it's at

1483
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:24,079
least worth a discussion. If it's not, if rocket stands

1484
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,320
are saying, no, go fuck it. We have enough to

1485
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,039
get Devin Booker if we want him down the line anyway, fine,

1486
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,119
but this is not egregious and it's it's definitely not

1487
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:36,079
about Josha Kogy. I'm just at least at least insult

1488
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,519
me the right way. That was the kJ and the

1489
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,800
Josha Kogy of at all. I found it very funny.

1490
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: Ceurl Blazers trading to the Lakers, Jeremy Grant, Robert Williams,

1491
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,760
a first round pick is going oh, broll. I thought

1492
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,599
that was saying that they are trading away the first No,

1493
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,880
so they're getting two first round picks.

1494
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: For oh, this is okay. So there was a typo

1495
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,480
on this where I had names in the wrong fields.

1496
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:00,960
This is why it's important to have in editing staff.

1497
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:05,679
So the Portland Trailblazers are getting Jalachapino, D'Angelo Russell, Jared Vanderbilt,

1498
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:08,599
Gabe Vincent, and the Lakers first round picks in twenty

1499
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,360
twenty nine and twenty thirty one They would then send

1500
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,199
Jeremy Grant and Robert Williams a third to the Lakers.

1501
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:21,199
Speaker 2: Robert Williams and Jeremy Grant, Jala, Jussafino, D'Angel Russell, Jeered Vanderbilt,

1502
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,159
Gay Vincent. What a good thing is? None of these

1503
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,159
players have been positive impactful players as of right now.

1504
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,679
Speaker 1: They have not even gave. Vincent's been all over the place.

1505
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:30,400
Now that he's playing, Russell looks a little bit better

1506
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,480
coming off the bench. Jared Vanderbilt still not playing. He

1507
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:36,159
could argue he has value, But if you're getting two

1508
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:39,000
Lakers first round picks in twenty nine and twenty thirty one,

1509
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:41,920
how do you not do this? If you're the Lakers,

1510
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,960
it's more questionable because you're not getting a star and

1511
01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:46,840
you're playing kind of your last best trade chips.

1512
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: And one thing about jere mcgrant, he gonna hit a

1513
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,119
corner three and he's going to defend at least decently.

1514
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,480
I like Jeremygrant the Lakers so much. Is it worth

1515
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:58,000
trade and two first round picks for these two dudes?

1516
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,119
Maybe because it allows Brandon brandon ing. It allows Anthony

1517
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:04,199
Davis to move over to the four, which is what

1518
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,199
he's been wanting to do, even though he's been dominant

1519
01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:08,280
at the five right now. But also Robert Williams is

1520
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,400
not the type of dude that needs to warn a

1521
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,960
started spot, so maybe he's just taking the Jackson Hayes minutes.

1522
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:15,519
So this allows you to do some stuff like Reeves,

1523
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,679
James Hotchie, Moore, Grant, Davis, Letbron be a point guard.

1524
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:26,639
Speaker 1: Well, we got throw Dalton Connect in there, you know, Davis, Lebron, Grant,

1525
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,920
Reeves and Connect is the lineup that's that's still pretty

1526
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,360
good size, and I think Rouen could be really good

1527
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,320
on offense. He's not gonna give you a ton on defense.

1528
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Don't Connect's not going to either, but if you have

1529
01:05:38,119 --> 01:05:41,239
a d and yeah, that's probably a little bit late

1530
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,639
on defense. We got fit RW three in there somehow, though,

1531
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:46,760
So forget Dalton Connect, Let's go super big Jeremy Grant,

1532
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,119
Anthony Davis, RW three, Lebron and then you can go

1533
01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:53,599
Reeves or Connecting from in there too, get really big.

1534
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:55,880
That's a hell of a lineup. I just don't know

1535
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,360
if I'm the Lakers, Am I giving up my two

1536
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,519
first round picks for that? Can you sandwich Moni Kamar

1537
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:03,800
is involved in this deal. Would you do that, Blazer fans?

1538
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,440
You get two of those Lakers unprotected picks twenty nine

1539
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,320
to twenty thirty one. You're giving up three players, only

1540
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,280
one of which potentially factors into your real long term plan?

1541
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,639
Are you doing that? I'm that'd be interesting. If I'm

1542
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:17,480
the Lakers, I'd probably pounce on it. I don't know

1543
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:20,119
if they want to go the non star route, but

1544
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:22,320
if you're adding, no, they have no wings, like real

1545
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:25,000
wings on this roster. So to add Jeremy granted to

1546
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:27,480
Montey Kamara, well, giving up those two first round picks.

1547
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,760
I think Blazers fans will say no here, But I

1548
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,400
also think that Blazers fans should give this more more thought.

1549
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:34,199
Speaker 2: It's like he was when we first got to LA

1550
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,679
because the one thing about Danzelo Russell's minutes is one

1551
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:39,039
of the one of the few positive things about Dienzelo's

1552
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,639
game is his playmaking ability. And because he's playing.

1553
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Along by the way like they their offense is not great.

1554
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,119
Speaker 2: And he doesn't get to showcase that as much. So yeah,

1555
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:49,800
sign me up for this one too, sign me up

1556
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:53,159
like that. I thought he was gonna two seconds not

1557
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:56,079
mad at that. Oh he skipped over the Kings one.

1558
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: So for Kings fans, I had Larry Nan Junior for

1559
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,039
Trey Lyles and two seconds. I don't know if that'll

1560
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:04,519
fix the Kings. They've been all over the place they have.

1561
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,679
I will say this, if there's a team that I

1562
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,639
actually think has been impacted unfairly by NBA referees thus

1563
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:16,119
far this season, I think it's probably Sacramento, at least

1564
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,079
off the games that I've watched, Although we all know

1565
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:19,880
that I don't actually watch games or any teams or

1566
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,480
any players, and I've never seen them be a game

1567
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,880
in my life. I think it's them. They're the team

1568
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,599
I have the least feel for. But I really do

1569
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,159
like the idea of Larry Nance Junior there, maybe as

1570
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:30,159
an independent big in lineups or even if you want

1571
01:07:30,199 --> 01:07:33,199
to play him alongside Domasa Bonus Spurs, Chris.

1572
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: Bousse and Kelly Olnig on huh Zach Collins In a

1573
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,039
first round pick that turns to two seconds? Oh boy,

1574
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:44,880
I was about to say, because then the Raptors trade

1575
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,639
away a first round pick for Kelly. I got it.

1576
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,719
Speaker 1: I want to shout out Kenny because his content is

1577
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:50,440
obviously shorter form on this. I know he has a

1578
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,000
podcast too than mine is to go through this, I

1579
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:54,679
know he's clipping out the pauses. I don't tend to

1580
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,920
do that on our longer form stuff. Kudos to him

1581
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,559
for like being able to go through this so quickly,

1582
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,960
But I also like that for the most part, he's acknowledging,

1583
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,119
like the pick protections and how they turn into something.

1584
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,719
You could look at that trade and say, Zach Collins

1585
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,840
in a first round pick for Chris Busche and Kelly Olinock,

1586
01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:13,960
it's really Zach Collins and maybe amounts to three seconds

1587
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,640
Chicago's twenty twenty five second and then the two seconds

1588
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,199
that Charlotte's first round pick will turn into sing up

1589
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,279
Zach Collins in three seconds get off the final year

1590
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,720
of his deal for expiring contracts in Chris Bousche and

1591
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,880
Kelly Allinick, who, by the way, I think either of

1592
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,279
them could play next to Victor Weben Yama. They'll be

1593
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:33,079
defensive downgrades compared to Zach Collins, but they could stretch

1594
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:34,880
the floor and maybe you want to keep one of

1595
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,439
them around. But I'm I'm more focused on San Antonio's

1596
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,640
offense than anything. And we also know anyone who listens

1597
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,119
watches US regularly. Chris Bouchet is among my my siren songs.

1598
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: Leolinic and Os Bozzi's we Get One Back. Okay, this

1599
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,920
is one of those trades like whatever.

1600
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's whatever, but yeah, it compared to

1601
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,000
some of the other trades, it's whatever.

1602
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:59,119
Speaker 2: Ronald Raptors trade trade and Oo's Manjay there it is. Hey,

1603
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,359
I watch a lot of basketball. I mean a lot

1604
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,439
of basketball. Have I watched a single minute of maleev Leons.

1605
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:12,079
I don't believe I have the name. The name just

1606
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:17,560
popped up and my eyes kind of widened. Oh okay, hey,

1607
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,279
this is like two playable centers though, and uz Min's

1608
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,239
I would be saying yesterday. If I'm Asi, just go

1609
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:23,880
get another talented prospect.

1610
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: And if you're here's the problem. If you're Sam Presto,

1611
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,720
you're really gonna give up on Malevi Lions Laons. Excuse me.

1612
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,479
I don't know if you could do that. That was like,

1613
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,880
there's so the thunder is so impossible to make trades

1614
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,640
with if they don't want to give up core players

1615
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,600
because they have all these draft assets, but like all

1616
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:45,239
their salary matching tools, they're not very they're not expendable

1617
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,640
big and so you needed to find another player to

1618
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,479
kind of throw in here. And it just helps that

1619
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,319
Leyon's is like a contract that's technically on the books,

1620
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,399
even though it's not guaranteed. That was kind of like

1621
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,239
that's the thought process there, and it was go choose

1622
01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:01,720
your big chrispo or Kelly Olynnick just to kind of

1623
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,119
fortify your rotation. Again. You have Kendrick Williams, you have

1624
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:08,239
Isaiah Hartenstein playing Ched Holmgren will come back. But if

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01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:10,319
you were in the market for just another big man,

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,399
look are you gonna give up Usman jang for that?

1627
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,399
It's he was drafted pretty high. He really does. There's

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a feel there on offense. I will not I know

1629
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,479
I might have said in the off season that I

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,239
would be selling my Usman Jangstock. I'm still sort of

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01:10:23,319 --> 01:10:26,560
clinging to it. I'm bag holding my Usman jang Stock.

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01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: You know, solid, but they not part of our long term.

1633
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,079
Christmushane is a lot older than what you think. Utah

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01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,640
Jazz Cole Anthony Yes, so okay, So you know I

1635
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,520
was talking about that's excited about Anthony modeve player I

1636
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,479
want in Orlando Collins sexy kind of fits that as well.

1637
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,760
He could score man and he's a He's a talented

1638
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:46,520
guy who puts it all on the table every single game.

1639
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:49,880
Is he worth your last first round pick in a

1640
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,600
future first round pick? Maybe not, but I wouldn't be.

1641
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,319
Speaker 1: This that's interesting. So the Zach trade, since he didn't

1642
01:10:56,399 --> 01:10:59,239
go through it, Cole Anthony, Tristan de Silva and a

1643
01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:02,800
twenty twenty six first round pick, I think that's I

1644
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:05,239
guess if you're really high on da Silva, I get it,

1645
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:08,720
But there are other permutations there that you include Jet Howard.

1646
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,199
The problem is is Utah needs wings more than any

1647
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:13,560
first round picks, and so I'm insisting on d Silva,

1648
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,000
especially if I'm eating coll Anthony's money. That contract has

1649
01:11:16,119 --> 01:11:19,439
not aged all that well for Orlando, like they are

1650
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,760
there when you look at sort of their playmaking and

1651
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,199
initiation ranks. The fact that they're twenty games into their

1652
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:27,800
season and he's not playing a ton or consistently. Are

1653
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,600
they just out on him? It does seem like it,

1654
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,600
So that has to be caked into the value of

1655
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,680
any trade there. But I love the idea of Sexton

1656
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:37,800
where he kind of bridges they need shooting in an initiator,

1657
01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:40,720
and he's neither the best of both, but can provide both.

1658
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,840
I do recognize that a lot of his initiation or

1659
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,039
playmaking is gonna come when he's going downhill, and maybe

1660
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:48,720
they want someone who's gonna be well. Can they make

1661
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,680
more complicated decisions out of picking rolls or just more

1662
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,079
reliably draw two to the ball coming around screens? Sexton

1663
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:58,840
needs like a like a good level of spacing to

1664
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,680
work with to really unlie is playmaking. Do the Magic

1665
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,640
provide enough of it? I think this is still a

1666
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,479
cost though I'm giving up to bring him.

1667
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:07,319
Speaker 2: In mad at this one and all calling into the

1668
01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:11,039
league office right now, and last tray he liked that. Marcus, Sorry,

1669
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:11,720
I spoke over him.

1670
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: So we'll go to the Washington Wizards one, which will

1671
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,960
be the final one. The Wizards get John Conchar, Marcus Smart,

1672
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:19,840
Vince Williams Junior, a twenty twenty five first round pick,

1673
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:22,680
and they're sending out Kyle Kuzma and the big one here,

1674
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,359
Patrick Baldwin Junior.

1675
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,399
Speaker 2: Vince Williams Junior in the first round pick for Kyle

1676
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,880
Kuzma and Patrick Baldoman Junior. Another way to just get

1677
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,439
some more creation out there for the for the Memphis Grizzlies.

1678
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,199
I don't hate it. Mark Is Marcus Smart about to

1679
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:37,760
do that for the second half of his career or

1680
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,159
the last part of his career? Just get traded? Here?

1681
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: There is that?

1682
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,159
Speaker 2: Is that the fate of Marcus Smart?

1683
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: That would suck. Admit, I don't think I'm doing this.

1684
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,159
If I'm Memphis, I'd prefer brandon Ingram to Kyle Kuzma,

1685
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,359
who's been chucking this year. But I think in a

1686
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,479
different type of environment, with a deeper, more established pecking order,

1687
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,960
you would see him rein in his game and be

1688
01:12:57,079 --> 01:12:58,720
more of a play finisher. And I think he has

1689
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,279
improved a pretty good deal defensively. When he's locked in.

1690
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,800
He would work in Memphis. I mean, you're getting off

1691
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,399
the contract in smart contracts. But for Vince Williams Junior

1692
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,199
in a first I don't know if I'm doing that.

1693
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:11,560
If I'm Memphis. I know that I'm the one who

1694
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,680
wrote this, But this is being proposed from the wizard's perspective,

1695
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,800
which I'm jumping on this because maybe you can rehab

1696
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,039
Marcus Mart's value a little bit, and Vince Williams Junior

1697
01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:20,600
is a hell of a prospect for them to get.

1698
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,840
You almost just have a bunch of defensive talent in

1699
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,279
there with Blackhoolabali Keishawn George can defend pretty well. But

1700
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:30,880
even boh, excuse me, bub Carrington having nice eyes. But

1701
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,760
if you if you said no to like two raw

1702
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,159
first round picks last year for kuzma Er, you're saying

1703
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:38,039
yes to this one while taking on smart Maybe not.

1704
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,319
I still think I'm doing it, but that might say

1705
01:13:40,399 --> 01:13:44,279
more about how I feel. With regards to Vince Williams Junior,

1706
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:45,720
I don't know.

1707
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: It's a lot of story.

1708
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: I guess he's done there. He didn't know about that one.

1709
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,039
Didn't seem to like my final trades there. That was fun.

1710
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:54,600
Let me know if you like. This might be a

1711
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,840
little bit choppy ast sort of a first time run through,

1712
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,560
but shout out to Kenny for going through the work

1713
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,760
and providing me with a way to I guess I

1714
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,319
give you over an hour's worth of content until next time.

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I'll leave the shout out for the one, the only,

1724
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,880
the indelible, the untradeable, and not just because he's not

1725
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:33,960
in the NBA, but he is a superstar who will

1726
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,039
eventually wind up back in the NBA. Mister Frank feeling