Speaker 1: Mone Brown's in the building.
Speaker 2: Good morning, can rewind introduce your organization and your movement?
Speaker 3: Mom?
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, good morning.
Speaker 4: So my name is Monae Brown, me and my husband
Speaker 4: Aaron Brown. We started not our kids, and let me
Speaker 4: just take it back. I am a retired probation officer
Speaker 4: from Alameda County, which is Oakland, give it up to Oakland.
Speaker 1: And during the course of my job, I.
Speaker 4: Used to supervise kids that were trafficking or being trafficked
Speaker 4: and they back then it was my Space.
Speaker 1: I don't everybody, Yes.
Speaker 4: That was where it started. Yes, started, it was popping.
Speaker 4: It was, yes, my Space and red Book remember red Book.
Speaker 4: Red Book was how kids would solicit themselves on these
Speaker 4: websites to meet people.
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm not sure how young you are.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to tell you.
Speaker 3: Sare We definitely know that yeah, back back before back
Speaker 3: page too.
Speaker 4: And so do you remember how back when we were
Speaker 4: more mature or how they met predators?
Speaker 1: It was the Cadillac pimp.
Speaker 4: Remember, our parents were worried about this older person pulling
Speaker 4: up to our growing up, used to hang at Cassamont,
Speaker 4: you know, pick us up, take us to McDonald's for
Speaker 4: two ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Right then it moved to the tennis shoe pim.
Speaker 4: That was the young person who couldn't afford a car,
Speaker 4: but he would walk around schools. Then it was the
Speaker 4: bicycle pimp. Right now it's the cyber pimp.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The huge difference between the previous three is that you
Speaker 4: can't see the pimps in your children's phones, right, And
Speaker 4: many of us can't see it because one, we never
Speaker 4: suspect that there are pimps in our children's phone, however,
Speaker 4: and we're not monitoring either. When we were growing up,
Speaker 4: it was a bunch of dues and don'ts. It was
Speaker 4: what don't open that door, I'm not here right, y'all?
Speaker 4: Remember what was.
Speaker 3: Don't sup no candy, talk to.
Speaker 2: Stranger, don't take no rides from nobody, don't talk to
Speaker 2: anyone you don't know exactly walking?
Speaker 4: What about the don't answer the phone and tell them
Speaker 4: I'm not here right? But now with this digital world,
Speaker 4: we say your uber's outside. We allow our kids to
Speaker 4: get in cards with strangers, and what else do we do?
Speaker 4: We tell them to share your location. We tag our
Speaker 4: children online. So for instance, you're my child Sonna, and
Speaker 4: I say g biz is my son and he's graduating
Speaker 4: next week from Cameo Middle School.
Speaker 1: Okay, Samario said, let's do the scenarios.
Speaker 4: And then I taxed. Say, I taxed seven people, including
Speaker 4: mister Brown, my husband. Every one of those people have
Speaker 4: a thousand people including me. Yep, So in twenty seconds,
Speaker 4: I have put g Biz to eight thousand exposed, sposed him.
Speaker 4: Now you know, heaven forbid if those people share him again. Right,
Speaker 4: The statistics say one of those people is going to say, hey, gee, Biz,
Speaker 4: you hack.
Speaker 1: To hand some how you doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they're usually going to send them a message
Speaker 4: right through his back. How many message you probably get
Speaker 4: someone that man, And it's a lot of unsolicited, unwanted right, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then what happens is what we do as parents.
Speaker 4: We also share our children's vin Mo and cash app. Parents,
Speaker 4: pimps pay your children through cash app and zell and Veno.
Speaker 1: Think about it. When's the last time you really have
Speaker 1: got money? Youth?
Speaker 4: He has you know, youth he said, hey you want lunch? Yeah,
Speaker 4: cashp ben Mo me. Right, Well, that's how pimps pay
Speaker 4: our children. They pay them through cash app then Mo. Right,
Speaker 4: But those names, those accounts are in our names.
Speaker 1: So if the children aren't.
Speaker 4: Doing things illegal, the police what I used to be
Speaker 4: is coming to look for the parents, right because what
Speaker 4: they're going to say is why didn't you know?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you know that he was getting those things? Attention?
Speaker 4: You're not paying attention, so I need I'm calling out
Speaker 4: to parents, please, parents, have conversations, ongoing conversation with your
Speaker 4: kids about the dues and don'ts of the internet, because
Speaker 4: think about it, we're giving kids phones as early as
Speaker 4: five to communicate with the community.
Speaker 1: Let them, we let them play games, games.
Speaker 4: I get to the games. Don't get to the games
Speaker 4: right as early as five. But we're not talking to
Speaker 4: them about sex because it's too early.
Speaker 1: But you give them my phone? Right, all right?
Speaker 3: There one search that's easy.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So do you want to ask me some questions? Oh?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: He directs me because I get getting long winded. Absolutely right.
Speaker 1: It's not paying attention.
Speaker 2: So you know with the apth thing, because we were
Speaker 2: talking about my daughter a second ago, okay, and we
Speaker 2: had a rude awakening because I would she knows my rules,
Speaker 2: but they don't follow I didn't when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: even taking out the freaking house and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, they don't even know right
Speaker 4: where did you go? Wherever I wanted to go? But
Speaker 4: did y'all parents know where to find you when you last?
Speaker 1: Well, they were asleep.
Speaker 2: Girl. I rolled my sister's transam out the driveway and
Speaker 2: down the street, started it up down the way and
Speaker 2: took off.
Speaker 1: But I was bad. I guess I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: alive so here.
Speaker 2: But my point is is where we were in a
Speaker 2: physical state. Then now with the CyberWorld that it is,
Speaker 2: you know, you know you can't It's like driving stealing
Speaker 2: somebody's car and driving in the middle of a million people.
Speaker 1: Then anyone can be out there to snatch you up
Speaker 1: at any time.
Speaker 2: So my daughter has Snapchat, she has Instagram and all
Speaker 2: the things, and I trusted her and I said, you
Speaker 2: cannot add anybody that you don't know. You got to
Speaker 2: physically see them and know them, then you can add them.
Speaker 2: But these kids get so caught up in like how
Speaker 2: many followers they have and how many likes they have,
Speaker 2: because they glorify this crap on all these social media platforms.
Speaker 1: Well, she ended up getting a penis picture. Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Just the Peith yeah, they getting more than penis. Well,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean that's you know.
Speaker 2: And she swore that this person and other girls in
Speaker 2: her class and he was following people at her old
Speaker 2: middle school.
Speaker 1: Oh, they they follow him to they know him. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we find out this person has
Speaker 2: like ten different accounts and it very may well be
Speaker 2: a young person or maybe in dirt.
Speaker 1: I don't know who they are, but you know.
Speaker 2: And she was like telling me, admitting that she made
Speaker 2: her profile public for a little while, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you knew the rules, but it wasn't even that she
Speaker 2: thought that because other people knew this person, yes, and
Speaker 2: they had had conversations with them online, that it was
Speaker 2: okay for her that they knew her and they knew him,
Speaker 2: and that person was okay to talk to. Plus he
Speaker 2: put up a cute little picture of some scrawny looking
Speaker 2: white boy with blonde hair on the beach, like.
Speaker 1: They know what to do right to attract these people.
Speaker 2: So I think what people get confused about, aside from
Speaker 2: making time to have those conversations, is how do you
Speaker 2: approach it without button head and being like, look, I
Speaker 2: need you to do this well, why I don't want
Speaker 2: to well, because this is why. And I think pulling
Speaker 2: up important videos like the one we talked about with
Speaker 2: the little boy on the trampoline and this cat pulls
Speaker 2: up in the.
Speaker 1: Suv, where's your mom? Where's your mom? You told me
Speaker 1: your mom is pretty and she's single. Where is she?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Who knows what could have happened at that point?
Speaker 4: And I agree with you, son, I think the days
Speaker 4: of chestising our children needs to move back, because soon
Speaker 4: as you do, they're going to figure out another way
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So we had a presentation last week and a parent's like,
Speaker 4: you know what, this stuff is not even relevant to
Speaker 4: me because my child don't have a phone. And so
Speaker 4: I said, I understand. Let me say, listeners, I get
Speaker 4: it that some of your children don't have a phone.
Speaker 4: But do they go to school? But kids have a
Speaker 4: phone or have internet at or have internet? Do they
Speaker 4: spend a night at someone's house that have a phone.
Speaker 4: Do they go to school and have a school computer.
Speaker 4: We gonna get about the education system real soon because
Speaker 4: they still have accents and the reality is this is
Speaker 4: the digital world is their world, so it's nothing we
Speaker 4: can do to prevent it. But we need to get
Speaker 4: in front of it, right because when they get eighteen,
Speaker 4: they're still going to have access. Just they're going to
Speaker 4: be rampant if you decide to not give them a
Speaker 4: computer now because I have someone said, well, homeschool, My
Speaker 4: children don't have that accent, but they will. That's the thing, right,
Speaker 4: the things are going away you bank. Here's a scenario
Speaker 4: in zoom world. I'm sorry now, zoom with COVID, you
Speaker 4: didn't have to leave the house for nothing.
Speaker 1: Let's be real.
Speaker 4: You could have found a man, you could have got drugs,
Speaker 4: you could work, you could get everything you needed without
Speaker 4: getting out your being right. And the reality is that
Speaker 4: is still true today that many people don't leave home
Speaker 4: for anything, the groceries, the medicine, the man, the drugs,
Speaker 4: everything right from access from your phone. So imagine putting
Speaker 4: that on tim with a child, right, what can a
Speaker 4: child do with so much access? Parents don't give children
Speaker 4: rules of the phone. They panic when they find out something. Right,
Speaker 4: it's like, you shouldn't have done that, But how would
Speaker 4: they have known if you didn't say you can't, you can't,
Speaker 4: don't or look for it. Look, how many of your
Speaker 4: listeners have their children's passwords. I did, I will go.
Speaker 4: I graduated from Saying Mary's. In twenty twenty two, sum
Speaker 4: kum laide.
Speaker 1: I wrote guy, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be going back there next week to speak.
Speaker 4: I did my thesis on parents' awareness of their children
Speaker 4: being sex tracked through electronic devices. I found that seventy
Speaker 4: percent of parents never had the passwords, have never went
Speaker 4: through their kids phones because why they trust them?
Speaker 1: I get it. Should you trust probably not.
Speaker 4: But if you do trust them, you shouldn't trust who
Speaker 4: they're talking to. Noah, that's just the bottom line. Yes,
Speaker 4: you may trust your kid, but listen, they're young, mined.
Speaker 4: Think about you as a kid, and then add the
Speaker 4: Internet on.
Speaker 2: It, right anless possibilities?
Speaker 1: What can you do and getting in try.
Speaker 4: I tell people your children can go from here to
Speaker 4: Africa laying right next to you and never physically lead
Speaker 4: right and so imagine, let's talk to im talk. I
Speaker 4: want to really speak to my father's. Your sons are
Speaker 4: being groomed through them gaming devices, roadblocks, Minecraft, rand theft Auto,
Speaker 4: they have chatting components to them. I just learned yesterday
Speaker 4: that on roadblocks there's games in there where they can
Speaker 4: beat up prostitutes. Wow, there's a section of it where
Speaker 4: they can go into a room. Like they said, it's
Speaker 4: called p Diddy. It's a p Diddy child parents. Look,
Speaker 4: I just posted on my social media there's a Diddy section.
Speaker 4: They can beat up pregnant women.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: What is that doing for a child's mind? Making it
Speaker 1: seem like it's okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I encourage parents, if your kids want to play
Speaker 4: this game, go play with them.
Speaker 1: See what they're playing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: And the chatty component is scary because it goes like this.
Speaker 1: Hi, sona G. Where is your mom? Oh that came here?
Speaker 1: Huh right? Well what kind of car she drives? Right?
Speaker 4: And what happens is that person continues to look for
Speaker 4: your child to play because he's giving information. And so
Speaker 4: what will happen is he'll know so much information on
Speaker 4: sogna G. He'll start looking for his mother. Right, Oh
Speaker 4: she's at work. Oh what's she doing talking to them
Speaker 4: on a brown Right? Any kind of information they can.
Speaker 4: And I tell you, when your child is traffic, you
Speaker 4: are traffic too. And so I really want to get
Speaker 4: it across here that this is the crisis. And then
Speaker 4: the flip side is our education system. I want to
Speaker 4: talk directly to the education system. And I want to
Speaker 4: talk and say, the education system gave all our kids computers,
Speaker 4: they gave them WiFi, they gave them email. I recently
Speaker 4: have to when and I'm crossing my fingers with the
Speaker 4: Senator and I just wrote a legislative law. The law
Speaker 4: would look like that the education system would need to
Speaker 4: educate parents and kids about internet safety. Because think about it,
Speaker 4: you guys handed computers like candy right. Kids is young
Speaker 4: five and six had computers and emails, right, But they
Speaker 4: did not educate us, right. How is it staff keeping
Speaker 4: our kids safe? For instance, at your baby school, if
Speaker 4: a child gets a dig pig, how would you get
Speaker 4: any information about your daughter received a dig pic through
Speaker 4: the school computer?
Speaker 1: Sna hmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would contact me. I mean
Speaker 2: I guess they would.
Speaker 4: What happens, Sona if your kid gets traffic through the
Speaker 4: school computer. I mean I would hope they'd have blocks
Speaker 4: on certain right on different websites or.
Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. But I'm not sure how
Speaker 2: their computers will set up.
Speaker 4: I want to challenge the parents today, get your kids
Speaker 4: computer and see how many websites you can access. I'll
Speaker 4: just tell you my daughter has a school computer, I
Speaker 4: can get on Facebook. Facebook is the number one side
Speaker 4: of kids being trafficked? Can you get on Instagram through
Speaker 4: your child's computer? Can you access your child's computer? One
Speaker 4: thing the education system does do remind you if they
Speaker 4: lose it or break it, you gonna get the bill.
Speaker 4: You don't get it right, But what happens if something
Speaker 4: happens to them through that school device. The other thing
Speaker 4: I wrote about is why should children under the age
Speaker 4: of twelve through the school system have an email? If
Speaker 4: they have an email, remember I said children are predators too.
Speaker 4: My youngest pimp was under twelve.
Speaker 1: What it was a girl? She was peeping out her friends.
Speaker 1: She was a pimp. So here's the thing.
Speaker 4: If you find out your child is being pimped by
Speaker 4: another child in your child's classroom, what's the first thing, sona,
Speaker 4: you should do?
Speaker 1: Go see your mama. Okay, after you do that.
Speaker 4: Our children, yeah, they're not old men anymore. What does
Speaker 4: a parent do? Right if you find out your daughter
Speaker 4: If you found out your daughter received a inappropriate picture
Speaker 4: from her class mate, yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you do? You obviously reported to who, to.
Speaker 2: The head of the school, and then say you wanted
Speaker 2: the police contacted.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: And see, here's the thing. Everyone's had a different answer.
Speaker 4: The thing is we don't know, right, and I want
Speaker 4: the education system to invite me. Let's have conversations about
Speaker 4: how are we keeping kids safe through the digital world.
Speaker 4: There are so many beefs being started, oh man, through
Speaker 4: school that school time, through these phones, the cyberbullying, the
Speaker 4: sex stortion, the blackmailing. Right, and so I have just
Speaker 4: a little bit of more about me. I have my master's,
Speaker 4: I'm waiting to take my licensure tests. I'm in I'm
Speaker 4: working Country Crostic School District as a therapist.
Speaker 1: It is amazing what I see that is happening.
Speaker 4: And so many of these beefs are starting because of
Speaker 4: social media. Once again, parents are not monitoring, right. Sex
Speaker 4: stortion is having children's Let's let me say, some parents,
Speaker 4: your kids is taking pictures of themselves and they uploading
Speaker 4: it and right while you sleep or maybe you sit
Speaker 4: right next to them, right. And I want us parents
Speaker 4: to be able to get in front of some of
Speaker 4: this stuff because the things are that some of our
Speaker 4: children are doing, it's going to mess.
Speaker 1: Up them going forward. Oh it will.
Speaker 4: Some of the stuff could possibly destroy their lives and
Speaker 4: not on. When our children lives are destroyed, our lives
Speaker 4: are destroyed as well, because usually what happens is signa
Speaker 4: that was your baby? How you didn't know because I didn't,
Speaker 4: but you should have, right, And we are paying for
Speaker 4: things that we have no access. So it's just like
Speaker 4: SNA go put your money in Chase, right, you don't
Speaker 4: have the number to get your money out.
Speaker 1: So he said, well, how much money is in there?
Speaker 1: I don't know. The bank telling you listen, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know.
Speaker 4: Just keep putting your check in there every month, right,
Speaker 4: But I needed to pay my bills too bad. And
Speaker 4: that's what's happening with these phones, these iPads and gaming devices.
Speaker 4: We're paying monthly for things we have no access to.
Speaker 4: But anytime the FBI, the police, Right, let's look at
Speaker 4: what's happening with P Diddy. Allegedly his youngest victim was nine,
Speaker 4: we would also look at Epstein, right, R.
Speaker 1: Kelly.
Speaker 4: So if it's happening on a global level, what do
Speaker 4: you think is happening right next to us? California is
Speaker 4: the number one state of trafficking, then you have San
Speaker 4: Francisco city wise, San Jose, Oakland.
Speaker 1: Right, have you been to Oakland lately? East fourteen?
Speaker 4: It is so sad to see those babies out there
Speaker 4: being traffic.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you, they all are holding a phone.
Speaker 1: To being in contact with.
Speaker 3: Phone be the biggest thing on them. Not they closed.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. Damn Yeah, for real, the phones.
Speaker 4: Right, and even down here in San Francisco, Right, the
Speaker 4: phones is because that's the connection to the pimp, whoever
Speaker 4: the pimp is, right, how they get their victims, right,
Speaker 4: how they meet their people that pay the johns. And
Speaker 4: so I'm asking parents, this is a crisis that these
Speaker 4: phones are getting our kids in trouble, and our kids
Speaker 4: are running away from us, being lured from us because
Speaker 4: of the phone.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So if your daughter came up missing today, Sana, do
Speaker 4: you know her friends? Okay, a lot of parents don't.
Speaker 4: They don't know that they've never met their kids' friends
Speaker 4: or the parents. Right when I was a p'll be like,
Speaker 4: you want to hang at Johnny house. You met Johnny mother? No,
Speaker 4: we have to get their business. Yeah, you can't just
Speaker 4: drop them off at the door.
Speaker 1: And the way that I'm right, and I encourage parents
Speaker 1: to read your children's messages.
Speaker 4: I absolutely do it is not and explain why, say, listen,
Speaker 4: this is about safety. I'm doing this to keep you
Speaker 4: safe and me safe. Right, it'll be random. Maybe think
Speaker 4: about a contract between you and your children. Right about
Speaker 4: the phones and all people, Mom, Hey you grazy. No,
Speaker 4: I've seen so much with these phones and iPads and
Speaker 4: gaming devices. It's all you gotta do is gonna TikTok
Speaker 4: and put it in and watch the parents talk about
Speaker 4: internet predators.
Speaker 2: You know, I saw this video the other day really
Speaker 2: quick at least parents who saw something going on with
Speaker 2: their child. And she had been communicating with an adult.
Speaker 2: But what she didn't know is is he was a
Speaker 2: decoy that they put there to show her physically what
Speaker 2: could happen to her if she talks to strangers. So
Speaker 2: the man pulled up in a van, she gets in
Speaker 2: the car and they don't show her face. She's a minor,
Speaker 2: but she couldn't have been more than twelve thirteen years old.
Speaker 2: Grown ass man. He was a good looking dude that
Speaker 2: they had in the thing, and I'm sure they had
Speaker 2: him use this real face and whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: Here come the mom and dad with a man, ask
Speaker 2: on and gloves and grab her and she's screaming, her.
Speaker 1: Screaming, and they were like, it's us stop scream. Apps.
Speaker 1: Now you see what we've been talking about.
Speaker 2: You cannot talk to anybody on you know, whatever, but
Speaker 2: you can put guidelines on their apps or have like
Speaker 2: I'm monitoring what you have going on. So after that
Speaker 2: situation with Naya, I put that in there. But I
Speaker 2: think this is why it's important that people not only
Speaker 2: hear what you say here, but if they need help,
Speaker 2: reach out, because I think in a lot of parents' minds,
Speaker 2: one they use the phone as okay, good, you're doing
Speaker 2: something else that I got stuff to do, and I'm like, great, whatever,
Speaker 2: not really, I mean the same stuff you look at,
Speaker 2: they're looking at you, they get pop.
Speaker 1: Ups, they get all the things.
Speaker 2: And then also if I have to take accountability for
Speaker 2: what I made did not express to them, then I'm
Speaker 2: a bad parent and I don't want to admit that.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple different things I think that come
Speaker 2: into play with, you know, knowledge about the Internet and
Speaker 2: the harms that it can create with these young minds,
Speaker 2: Like if we approach it wrong, like you said, it
Speaker 2: could create long lasting damage. So when I initially found
Speaker 2: out about ny. I got upset and I blamed her, like,
Speaker 2: I told you not to make it public. So after
Speaker 2: a while and she calmed down, she cried at school
Speaker 2: and all the things.
Speaker 1: She was like, but it was somebody I thought. I knew.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a rando that followed me while I
Speaker 2: was a public profile. But she has shown me like
Speaker 2: profiles of grown men that have been trying to follow her,
Speaker 2: and I was like, block them, block them. She's like,
Speaker 2: I don't add the mom, I don't add them, like,
Speaker 2: but they're out there constantly looking. So you're not failing
Speaker 2: as a parent. It's what I'm trying to say. You're
Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes every day.
Speaker 1: That's just a part of it.
Speaker 2: Nobody's perfect, not you, not me, biz in the future,
Speaker 2: no your husband exactly.
Speaker 4: I just want parents to know it don't matter where
Speaker 4: you come from. It could happen to me into a
Speaker 4: lot of law enforcement. Right, we're in the position, right
Speaker 4: if you not, mom, turn it or if you think
Speaker 4: not maybe not my kid, maybe your kid. Right, there's
Speaker 4: this thing on sign I want parents to understand. It's
Speaker 4: called adverse childhood experience. Let me just briefly speak of
Speaker 4: just an example of diverse. Say you have a parent,
Speaker 4: your parent that has to work two jobs, and your
Speaker 4: child is always at home. Maybe your baby is being bullied,
Speaker 4: maybe they have some identity issues, maybe they have.
Speaker 1: Suffered some type of trauma.
Speaker 4: These things places a child at more risk to talk
Speaker 4: to someone, right, And so I want parents to understand
Speaker 4: advers childhood experience heightens children to speak to people.
Speaker 1: Right. You could be maybe your father was incarcerated.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's domestic violence in the child, seeds in the home, right,
Speaker 4: maybe they're unhoused. Any of those things places children at
Speaker 4: a greater risk. If us parents think about what are
Speaker 4: some things as when we were kids growing up that
Speaker 4: wasn't a little shaky, right, that may have made us
Speaker 4: talk to someone that may have said, you know what,
Speaker 4: sona you pretty today? Maybe your mom or your dad
Speaker 4: never saw you. I told you you were pretty, right,
Speaker 4: But the people online will tell you handsome, You are
Speaker 4: so pretty. That's how the laur is you like. They
Speaker 4: like the compliment. Maybe they'll send you two dollars to
Speaker 4: get ice cream, right, right, so let me cam yo,
Speaker 4: let me cash af you ten dollars to get you
Speaker 4: some breakfast to tomorrow. Those things are lowering a child
Speaker 4: in right, And let's just go there. As as an adult,
Speaker 4: we like compliments. We like when people like our stuff, right,
Speaker 4: we like when they share it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So imagine that as a kid right, righted and a
Speaker 4: neglected kid right. And now they're starting to seek that attention.
Speaker 4: So there will to do more things to be seen
Speaker 4: by that person, right. And so I want parents to
Speaker 4: think about that all that on the time that your
Speaker 4: child is not paying attention to you.
Speaker 1: Who are they paying attention to?
Speaker 4: Are they gaming middle of the night all night and
Speaker 4: you hear them always talking?
Speaker 1: Or are youing with somebody? Tune in?
Speaker 4: Parents go in there, or they go to bed early
Speaker 4: and they own the phone and you don't say, why
Speaker 4: are you up, sir?
Speaker 1: Late? Are they late to school? Right? Are they having
Speaker 1: beefs at school? Right? Get involved with the beefs at school? Right?
Speaker 4: And so the last thing you want parents is somebody
Speaker 4: knock on your door and say, hey, we got a warrant,
Speaker 4: or hey your baby is missing, or and you first
Speaker 4: thing you say is, I don't have no idea who
Speaker 4: they could be with. I don't know any of my
Speaker 4: child's friends. They only have social media friends, right, And
Speaker 4: then they say, well, what's the password? I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe the child lead the phone, can you get in it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: You must be able to get access to your child's phone, parents,
Speaker 4: because I tell you, probably ninety percent of the answers
Speaker 4: of what's happening is in that phone. It's right in
Speaker 4: front of you, right, and you can't access it. But
Speaker 4: who could if they wanted to? As minus an Apple
Speaker 4: phone is the police department. And you don't want that, right,
Speaker 4: So I'm not Our kids came out of love and pain,
Speaker 4: especially during Zoom. How many things were happening during that
Speaker 4: Zoom time, Sana is that we saw a lot of
Speaker 4: predators getting on zoom on kids. And if people look
Speaker 4: at that's why now they have codes to Zoom, because
Speaker 4: people were getting on showing a lot of nudity through
Speaker 4: Zoom during class, during class, exactly during classes. And I
Speaker 4: just want parents to know teachers are predators too. You
Speaker 4: can't always assume that the people who are teaching your
Speaker 4: children are are moving in a right mind. That and
Speaker 4: so that's why I feel like, especially with under twelve,
Speaker 4: that parents should have access to their children's emails, right
Speaker 4: and and say, well, only the teacher can email. Why
Speaker 4: I'm not trusting the teachers either, and no dig at
Speaker 4: my teachers because you guys have a very hard, hard job.
Speaker 4: But it's also the safety of the student because what
Speaker 4: if the student is trying to solicit the teacher? How
Speaker 4: as a parent can you say you may No, my
Speaker 4: baby didn't do that. And so I would like more
Speaker 4: access for parents, especially with the school computer, because these
Speaker 4: kids have the same computer for four years at some
Speaker 4: school districts. Right, so imagine you've never been able to
Speaker 4: access your kids' school computer. You have no idea what's
Speaker 4: in your kid's email or what's on your kids school computer.
Speaker 4: It's same thing with the cell phone. I could just
Speaker 4: set the cell phone off because I pay for it.
Speaker 1: But the right.
Speaker 4: What if I don't want my kid to have a
Speaker 4: school computer because they've had some previous history, would be
Speaker 4: in traffic Why in the school district?
Speaker 1: There is an alternative?
Speaker 4: Why if say, SONA, you don't want your baby anymore
Speaker 4: to have a school computer. We have paper when wet
Speaker 4: through school. I think we turned out pretty well. Listen
Speaker 4: you on Cambiel, it's not our kids. But what if
Speaker 4: you don't want your children to have access through a
Speaker 4: school device. What is the alternative with the education system.
Speaker 4: I know, I have yet to hear an answer, and
Speaker 4: I would like to would like to because everyone can't
Speaker 4: learn the same right and so the dangers are out there,
Speaker 4: and so I would love for the education symptoms to
Speaker 4: invite me to the table and let's have conversations. And
Speaker 4: I would like conversation around how do we keep these
Speaker 4: babies safe in the digital world.
Speaker 3: So do we feel like your books provide some of
Speaker 3: those answers?
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, I'm let me speak on my books. So
Speaker 4: my books are called up so it's not k N
Speaker 4: O t oh, you are kids with a Z K
Speaker 4: I d Z dot com. And so my first book
Speaker 4: is called Operation Chat Don't Chat Back, and that's Nia,
Speaker 4: and Nia is talking to someone that she believes that
Speaker 4: it's her friend that looks like her.
Speaker 1: And then we have Operate.
Speaker 4: We have ready set game which is Nico and it's
Speaker 4: talking to my father's especially because our sons are being
Speaker 4: groomed through gaming devices. So he's playing games and his
Speaker 4: mother and father is telling him about the importance of
Speaker 4: not chatting with people. As of October first, we put
Speaker 4: the books in Spanish, both books because we understand that
Speaker 4: our brown population are being trafficked at.
Speaker 1: A very high rate.
Speaker 4: And so we have Luna which means to take it
Speaker 4: to the moon, and we have Leone and he's the
Speaker 4: ready said game.
Speaker 1: And then my Blue Book. And there's called cyber Pimp.
Speaker 4: But every parent should know to safeguard their children from
Speaker 4: online predators. And it just talks about how pimping has changed.
Speaker 4: It has moved from Cadillac to cyber pimp, and so
Speaker 4: it's talking about ways parents should think about keeping their
Speaker 4: children safe. For instance, stop sharing your children on social media.
Speaker 4: If you if your children's on social media, you should
Speaker 4: also be their friends. Talking about having a contract, don't
Speaker 4: tag your children, always have ongoing conversations while you give
Speaker 4: them a phone, during the phone and after the phone, right,
Speaker 4: and so it talks about those things. And I am
Speaker 4: I have been speaking at several churches. I was at
Speaker 4: San Leande School last year. I'm sorry last week I
Speaker 4: would be on crime for on November seventh. I was
Speaker 4: on KTVU last month. So I'm open to come and
Speaker 4: to speak at any and Double ACP sorry, thank you
Speaker 4: my husband Aaron Brown, so and Double ACP. They have
Speaker 4: picked me up as an ambassador and Valao. This is
Speaker 4: a new phenomenon, but then again it's not because pimping
Speaker 4: has been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: I just want parents to know.
Speaker 4: I found a statistic that said pimps are making anywhere
Speaker 4: from between three hundred to six hundred thousand a year
Speaker 4: per child. Think about how many times that child would
Speaker 4: get sold and that is a lot of money. And
Speaker 4: it's very difficult for police to catch things because one
Speaker 4: the child has to cooperate, right, They have to be
Speaker 4: able to get in the phone. You have to identify
Speaker 4: the there's so many and listen, everybody's short staff right now, right,
Speaker 4: And so what's happening is they're usually what say, sign
Speaker 4: of our kids ran away, but really you might believe this.
Speaker 4: They've been lured away our children. And I'll just say, parents,
Speaker 4: get on Megan's Law. Find out the pimps that and
Speaker 4: predators and sex offenders that's in your neighborhood. You get
Speaker 4: on Megan's Law website, you probably will see people in
Speaker 4: your neighborhood who are our sex offenders that should be
Speaker 4: registering every year. That is a website you should always
Speaker 4: look at no matter where you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot.
Speaker 3: I'll certainly say that it is a lot. And I
Speaker 3: feel like you know a lot of the parents out there.
Speaker 3: This is actually it's absolutely an episode to lock into because,
Speaker 3: like you said, it's nothing new. It's just has a
Speaker 3: new face, you know what I mean. It's we're a
Speaker 3: long ways away from the VHS tapes my mama used
Speaker 3: to popular, and they be watched, and it's important to
Speaker 3: have the information.
Speaker 4: And so I would I would ask you know, some
Speaker 4: of your viewers, what would you do if you found
Speaker 4: out your son or your daughter was a pimp?
Speaker 1: What would you do?
Speaker 4: The other thing is these pimps are and pretters are
Speaker 4: encouraging our children to self harm. There the suicide rate
Speaker 4: is very high right now. Mental health is very high parents,
Speaker 4: and a lot of it is due to these phones
Speaker 4: and what these children are seeing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And so you can save your baby mental health by
Speaker 4: getting in their business right and letting to them know
Speaker 4: that they can come and talk to you. Don't be
Speaker 4: so tight where your children can't come talk to you,
Speaker 4: because let me tell you something that if they not
Speaker 4: talking to you, they talking to somebody, true, And wouldn't
Speaker 4: you want them to come and talk to you that
Speaker 4: I believe the ages of At least when I came
Speaker 4: up sna we couldn't come talk to my mom about
Speaker 4: anything sex noney, you scared, right, But these days we
Speaker 4: need to be able to talk to our parents are
Speaker 4: paying Our children should be able to because all they
Speaker 4: have to do is google anything you don't want to
Speaker 4: tell them.
Speaker 1: They's okay, cool, right, look it up.
Speaker 3: Seconds they got it right.
Speaker 4: And when you want to be the person that they
Speaker 4: can get the information from. Because the Internet, the information
Speaker 4: can be skewed. It's not always truthful, right, and so
Speaker 4: any questions they have, regardless of fness, of where you
Speaker 4: come from, your background, your children should be able to
Speaker 4: ask you just cringe, say say wait one second and
Speaker 4: take a break, right and come back and allow them
Speaker 4: to ask you the question and be very truthful because
Speaker 4: a lot of times they may have already did the
Speaker 4: research to me, she's gonna lie me, she gonna tell
Speaker 4: me the truth. And so I think you'll be viewers.
Speaker 4: You guys can purchase the books off my website not
Speaker 4: our Kids dot com. We're also on Amazon and please
Speaker 4: buy the books. I am come and I will come
Speaker 4: and speak at any of any place all my speaking
Speaker 4: if you want to book me for speaking engagements on
Speaker 4: my website. And I'm telling you parents, please, if anything
Speaker 4: you heard me today, go to your school systems and
Speaker 4: ask them who's keeping my baby safe? Because I tell
Speaker 4: you it's the ITD staff. Do they get off with
Speaker 4: us at four thirty? Do they work weekend? Because listen,
Speaker 4: when are our kids are they online? They're online after
Speaker 4: four thirty and on weekends. So if your child was
Speaker 4: god in some nudity or something that's happening, will they
Speaker 4: only notify you Monday between a thirty to four thirty?
Speaker 4: And if in fact your child is found to be
Speaker 4: traffic through a school device, what are the resources not
Speaker 4: only for the kid, but we have to also have
Speaker 4: had resources for predators too, right we defn especially if
Speaker 4: they're children. And so I just want to thank you
Speaker 4: Sona for giving me this platform.
Speaker 1: Did you have any questions? You guys have any questions
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 3: I thought you covered a whole lot, and it's it is,
Speaker 3: It's all.
Speaker 1: Important, it's all important.
Speaker 2: I think it's just repeating it over and over again
Speaker 2: like anything, because again, like parents.
Speaker 1: Are busy, we're all busy. But what you can't be
Speaker 1: too busy for is the safety of your kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we absolutely have to pay attention. You have to
Speaker 2: ask questions, you have to you know, some parents it
Speaker 2: shocks me. They're like, man, NYA tells you that my
Speaker 2: kid doesn't tell me anything, and I'll tell them about
Speaker 2: Oh so I heard you know so and so is
Speaker 2: dating so and so what dating who? And I was
Speaker 2: like oh, and then I have that slight.
Speaker 1: Hoodman telling like oh damn, I'm stitching.
Speaker 2: And then and then the next step it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like NYA told me that they apparently are holding hands
Speaker 2: in school or whatever. But having those conversations and being
Speaker 2: a community too is helping. Like if you know your
Speaker 2: kid is into some bs or somebody's kid, is you know,
Speaker 2: and that you seem like that the parents don't are oblivious,
Speaker 2: say some yes, say some because the next thing, I
Speaker 2: got in trouble with something of some girl I guess
Speaker 2: came out to one and I as friends group and
Speaker 2: said I have feelings for you, and then that girl
Speaker 2: said nope. And the little girl said, well, what do
Speaker 2: you want me to do? Kill myself? And whenever I
Speaker 2: hear a kid or it and that I will never
Speaker 2: like the parents of the girl who apparently rejected the
Speaker 2: girl who was expressing herself kind of distanced themselves from me.
Speaker 2: And I wrote them a message and said, I understand
Speaker 2: if you feel like maybe I'm meddled.
Speaker 1: And this may be an old issue, but if.
Speaker 2: Any parent, anytime ever tells me that a kid said something,
Speaker 2: or my daughter tells me a kid said something about
Speaker 2: somebody killing themselves, I'm gonna get involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's just a guarantee.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that if it was your child, you
Speaker 2: would want me to do the same thing. And if
Speaker 2: it's my child, I want you to do the same thing,
Speaker 2: because it's different.
Speaker 1: The world is different. It's just different.
Speaker 2: And just to worry about people like you said rolling
Speaker 2: by the block, which I've also had happen. My daughter's out,
Speaker 2: you know, playing in the water slide with you know,
Speaker 2: when she was younger.
Speaker 1: Here comes is full with his phone. Yes, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta watch all angles. It's just more
Speaker 1: of them, more of.
Speaker 4: Them, yes, and some of them not secret. That's the
Speaker 4: thing they holding the phone just up and just film.
Speaker 4: And I tell you that what she said with the
Speaker 4: self harm stuff, imagine parents, if your children wants to
Speaker 4: harm themselves and they wrote a letter and you have
Speaker 4: no way to access the phone. There's the suicide rate
Speaker 4: is very high. And the thing is, they say, it's
Speaker 4: so like it's just conversation.
Speaker 1: I want to die. Yeah, now it's like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill myself. I'm like, is this do you really mean that?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: They have this app that makes gunfire sound? Have you
Speaker 2: heard about this? This is a new trend at my daughter's school.
Speaker 2: And I was like, if you dare download that thing
Speaker 2: or use it? Like if a kid says, oh my god,
Speaker 2: so and so likes me and like a person's tired
Speaker 2: of hearing it, like another kid, they'll turn it on
Speaker 2: like they're trying to shoot them and it's like a trend,
Speaker 2: that's a And I'm like, there's so many things that
Speaker 2: they just make up every day.
Speaker 1: I know it's taxing to pay attention.
Speaker 4: But how would a kid know that's not cool? Because
Speaker 4: you got to tell them.
Speaker 1: You have to tell them it's a norm.
Speaker 4: Right, If it's a norm, how would they know, yeah,
Speaker 4: that not to be especially because things go so viral
Speaker 4: on TikTok bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And that's probably where they got it.
Speaker 4: The TikTok and so I parents, please please check your
Speaker 4: baby's phones and let them know why you're doing it.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate this.
Speaker 4: I think this is something hopefully listen, we can get
Speaker 4: it on Pixar have a.
Speaker 1: I was wondering.
Speaker 4: I was thinking it should be like and you know
Speaker 4: how you take your baby to the movies and be
Speaker 4: like a small trailer because we're giving kids film like
Speaker 4: don't chat.
Speaker 1: Back, right, that's one of my hashtags. Not our kids.
Speaker 4: Don't share your past words, right, start grooming them early
Speaker 4: in a good way of telling them. We don't share ourself.
Speaker 4: We don't tell people our names. It's the mama, don't
Speaker 4: don't put me on your Facebook, right. We almost need
Speaker 4: to get there, like, don't share anything on social media
Speaker 4: because once it's south there, it's it. Can you imagine
Speaker 4: somebody if you were a small kid that walk home
Speaker 4: and say, hey, son.
Speaker 2: You I know your mother back of the day.
Speaker 3: Right, you and social media age it is just different
Speaker 3: media it has.
Speaker 2: If you're convinced that that's how you prove yourself as
Speaker 2: you're popular, you mean somebody because you've got a bunch
Speaker 2: of likes. So it's better to work on the other
Speaker 2: side of it, because it's like working against a mountain.
Speaker 1: I know it is media thing and it's only gonna
Speaker 1: get worse.
Speaker 3: It is, well, this is all day, but we appreciate
Speaker 3: you
Speaker 4: Again, not our kids, k n O t oh U
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