Speaker 1: I made a decision pay sunny sound. I had a vision.
It's nice. Hey everybody, what's up.
Speaker 2: It's our Friday Patreon and we thank you guys for
being here with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, I love you guys.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Let's see what's been going on since we
last talked.
Speaker 1: Well, in my world's still a lot of college a
lot of college angst. Yeah. I got this email from
my kid's college counselor who works at the school, and
she said that it's not a good idea to apply
undeclared to UC's, which I was kind of excited about
the idea of Xander doing. But now I'm hearing that's
not a good idea. That a good idea. Yeah, so
UCLA Communications. The major is impacted. Like when LB applied
for psychology, there's not a lot of other majors that
he's interested in. So if anybody out there can think
of like a good major that I haven't thought of, that, yeah,
is less crowded. And I know, okay, I know what
you're going to say that you people are going to say, well,
just get in with a different major like whatever, sociology
or something with a high acceptance rate and then transfer
and I guess that is possible. Yeah, but what if
there's no room in the major he wants to transfer into, Well, what.
Speaker 2: Is the college? You don't have the coach, do you?
I mean, yeah, I could ask her. I'll ask her
that question. Yeah, yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Sadie's so easy. I was. I was had to talk
with Sadie and she was like, mom, I really like
barely even want to go to Seasun. She can get
into Seasun really easily because it's it's in our yeahborhood basically.
So she's like, I don't you know, I just I'm
not feeling any of it, you know. And I was like, okay, well,
she applied to CESEN. She applied to SDSU, and I
was like, look, if you want to go to Pierce
and like just take some fun classes, you know that
would be fun? Now? Good? Yeah? Yours? Yeah that's fine.
And she was like okay. I was like, but you
already applied to CESEN, so you'll see and like you'll
look at the schedule and see if there's classes you
want to take, and if you're not into it, don't
do it. Right, I'm all about no pro it's good. Yeah.
So Xander had. This was a few weeks ago, and
I was almost going to talk about this on Patreon,
but I kind of feel like other parents might relate
to this right now, so I'll just say what's going on.
But so, he had a speech competition coming up, which
spoiler alert are overused term he did not go to.
He was trying to write this speech. He was also
trying to do college applications. He's also the assistant director
of the current school play. Wow. He's also in like
a number of clubs. He also is playing in his band. Yeah,
has all these shows to do, but he's trying to
write these essays, you know. So he comes in my
room and he's trying to get me to help him
write some stuff for this speech. Yeah, and it's not
it's very half baked, like he can't figure out what
the idea is. He kind of knows, but then he's
getting frustrated telling me because I'm not really understanding it.
So he's like, I can't really articulate what it is.
And then I said, well, if you can't articulate what
it is, it's going to be pretty hard to give
a speech about it, right, you know. Yeah, the first
thing you really have to nail down, is like, what
do you what do you want to say? Yeah? Right,
what are you trying to just try to tell me?
Like if you're just telling me what you want to
say about this topic? And he's like, I know, but
I have all these different ideas, and he's just getting frustrated.
And then he's getting a little bit frustrated with me
for not understanding, even though I know he's not. I
know he's not mad at me, but he's right. He
So then I realize, So I didn't realize this at
the time. This is on a Wednesday. The competition that
he's trying to write a ten minute speech really was
for that Saturday. Oh my god. And this is on Wednesday.
This is on Wednesday. Oh my gosh. Then I was like, well,
I don't want to be I don't want to be
the mom that's like, well, why why are we with
this on a Wednesday? Like I know that's not going
to help him, right, So I was like, well, it's
already Wednesday. M hmm. Okay.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's such a typical thing that parents
have to deal with with their kids. Yes, you know,
they come to you, they're frustrated. You don't you know
why they're frustrated. They're also feeling the pressure because they
waited too long, waited to the last minute. But then
you don't want to be like, well, what the fuck
why'd you get wad you wait this long? Because you
don't want to add to the frustration. Then you're trying
to help them, but they're not. You guys aren't connected.
It's so typical. I mean, this happens all the time.
Speaker 1: And here's the problem. He hadn't waited until like that
day to start. It's just that he'd been thinking about
it and running ideas. He'd met with the speech coach
several times. It's just that every time he sat down
to kind of write it, it wasn't coming to him. Yeah.
So now it's Wednesday, so I was like, well, here's
the thing you're not oh, but then he's starting to
just be really upset in general, and I was like,
let's talk about what's really going on here. Yeah, because
we're not going to solve this part of the play,
like by Saturday, you're not you haven't even written it,
So you're not going to write it in one night
and then memorize it into like, it's just not going
to happen. And I said, you have too many things
going on, and I told you, I did say, I said,
I told you when you signed up for all of
these things. Remember when I said, I hope he doesn't
do the school play, but he did anyway, I was like,
I told you, because he has a rehearsal till six
o'clock every day. This kid is busy, I know. And
I was like, now you're tired, and now you're stretched
too thin. It's getting that. Something's got to go. And
the first thing that has to go is this speech,
because you don't have to do all the Listen, the
person who gets hurt is me because I wanted to
touch you know. But yeah, there's plenty more of these competitions.
And I was like, it's it's so he doesn't have to.
It's option on this Saturday, I have to just wants
to because he wants to do everything and because he
hates to disappoint anyone. So he says to me, well,
my speech coach already said last chance to back out,
and that was I think the day before. Uh huh,
like she told me yesterday, this is your last chance.
Otherwise I have to, like the school pays for these entries, right,
And I was like, I don't care. I'll pay your
I'll pay your entry fee, but you're not doing it.
It's too much. So then he starts freaking out about
like I was like, let's talk about time management and like,
what is what's our priority right now? Because I think
your priority should be get the college stuff out of
the way. Yes, then you can do whatever the hell
you want, right, but now you've taken on this play,
so now you're the assistant director, so now that has
to happened first. Then he starts getting like so upset
about the college stuff, and he says it's so much.
He it's basically that he feels a lot of pressure
to figure out what do I want to do with
my life? That's tough. What do I want to be?
What do I want to study? And I think he
knows because we do talk about it a lot, like
college is expensive. I don't want to send him. I've
told him, I don't want to send you to Emerson
to study comedy the comedy major, because I don't have
two hundred thousand dollars to spend for you to go
enjoy Boston when you could be in the groundlings here exactly.
I took that to heart and he was like, well,
I don't even know why I need to go to
college anyway at this point, because you know, what I
want to do is like I'm not going to get
to do what I want to do in college. Uh huh.
I meem. I had to channel like a different mom.
It's so tough. I hate that. I know, tough being
a mom like us. Yes, we're like, well kind of
kind of. Yeah, we figured it out right right right. Yeah.
It's like, so what does he want he seems to
enjoy he a stand up comedian. Yeah, he seems to
enjoy that sketch comedy. So he's never done stand up
and he doesn't currently do sketch comedy, but like he
has this idea like he loves it. Yeah, and listen,
before I ever started to try to be a comedian,
I loved comedy right like I loved it. I was
like him, I loved it from a young age. I
went to see stand up shows. I was like, that's
my dream. Yeah, yeah, I don't think I could ever
really make it happen, but god, I love to do
that before I die. Yeah, that's what I was thinking
at sixteen.
Speaker 2: Right, and he seems like a chip off the old block.
But you know, he lives in the perfect town for that.
He's got great parents that would support him. Like he
could start doing that's what he wants to do. That's
what I told Sunny. If you want to do sports broadcast,
you can just open up your computer and start your
own live YouTube show doing sports recaps. Right, So you
start doing it now, that's what you want to do,
and that's what you enjoy.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 2: But he's got a lot on its plate though, right now.
Because that's what I said.
Speaker 1: I was like, but if you want to do sketch comedy,
get some friends together, write some sketches, film them and
put them on YouTube. Oh there you guy. He's like,
with what time? Yeah, And I'm like, okay, good point.
But like and the stand up thing, like he was
going to try to do it. He took the class, right,
and he couldn't do the showcase because he had to
go do a gig. Yeah, because he's spread very thick
spread then. But the thing is what I said to
him is I did channel a different mom. That's not me.
That's like, great, save me. The money, go to community
college and go and go do yeah, be in the Groundlings. Right.
I didn't say that, I said right, but I said,
the the great thing about college is that like you
can get a degree that and just having a college
degree can open other doors for you after college. But
also while you're in college, you join a sketch group
or you you know, as and if you're in California,
you're in southern California, you can do groundlings classes. You
can do it over the summer, you can you know. Yeah.
So he was like yeah, and I said, you just
have to take something that's interesting to you, because why
why start your life right now if you don't have to,
if you can go to college and like figure out
what you want to do. And anyway, he started like
calming down about it, and I was like, there's nothing
set in stone, but that's why you don't need to
go to Emerson to study comedy, because you could study
it here. And he was like, no, I know that,
and now I don't even really want to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was tacking in a town too
about this stuff. She really got bit by the showbiz
bug by working at Kimmel over the summer, and she's like,
I really enjoy being in that fast paced environment like production.
And she's like, I really like start to think why
am I going to school if I could, you know,
get a job at an early age like I did
and get to work and start doing what I really
want to do.
Speaker 1: But then I was told her.
Speaker 2: You know, my nephew, Anthony, he after high school, moved
out here. He worked eight years at Jimmy Kimmel Alive,
worked his way up to a writer's assistant. But it's
not there's not a lot of money unless you're like
head writer or writer or whatever. I mean maybe eventually,
but there's going to be classes that you're going to
need to take and stuff like that if you want
to write and do that kind of stuff. And she's like, well,
I don't know if I want to write. But it's
tough because he Anthony left because he wanted to have
a family kids, you know, and it just doesn't pay
that well. It just production doesn't pay that well, you know,
unless you're like the star or whatever.
Speaker 1: So usually writers assistants jobs are for people that really
want to.
Speaker 2: Want to writer writer, right, So yeah, and you know,
so he had to leave and do a totally different.
Speaker 1: Is so nebulous exactly to just get a job.
Speaker 2: You can't just be a producer, right right, So yeah,
so she's kind of she was. She brought that up
to me the other day and I was like, all right, well,
you know, whatever you want to do, I support you.
But then she's like, I still want to get I
want to graduate college and I want to continue here.
So I'm like, okay, oh, I don't know. I think
that she's going to continue taking her classes and working
on her transfer and you know, and then I don't know,
we'll see. But she does love that, and I knew
she was going to love it. I knew it because
that's totally Natalia. She likes fast paced move being busy
all day. She loved it. And of course also it helped.
You know, the people are so nice there, and people
were so funny to be She's like, they're so everybody
was so funny. Everybody had such a great sense of
humor and blah blah blah. She liked that environment so.
Speaker 1: Because the creative people are fun, they are it is.
It's fun. Yeah, it's fun business. I cannot imagine like
having a corporate job. Yeah. See I liked. I liked
working in the corporate side. I don't.
Speaker 2: I never wanted to be in production because it was
I always felt like you work and then you're on hiatus,
and then what do you do when you're on hiatus?
I had to pay bills. So I was like, I
think I liked being in the corporate side. And then yeah,
and then ABC was like the best job I ever had.
It was so fun.
Speaker 1: I loved it, but so it was like fun like
the day to day, Yeah, it was. It was fun
that what was a typical daylight. I just loved being.
Speaker 2: In that environment where you're working on the top floor
where the president of the of the network is, and
then you also have the drama department that's developing dramas,
and then you have the comedy department, and then you
have the alternative series department, and then they're giving you
scripts to take home to read over the weekend, and
then you know, they're like, if you have any notes,
let us Like it was very collaborative and just you
felt like a part of something. Then you had the
upfronts coming up once a year, you know, where you
go to New York and they do the whole presentation
of their lineups, and it just and then I just
loved my job, which was programming and scheduling, which is
talking to CBS and all the other networks, you know,
and what they're airing, and what original episode are they airing,
what repeats their airing, and then what we're going to
put up against their repeats or against the original.
Speaker 1: It was just like that were people like were the
network secretive about it? No, they trying to find out
or did now For the most part, they were very
because that's how the business was. You know.
Speaker 2: You just have your counterpart at CBS or NBC that
you talked to, and you know, are you running repeats
of whose line is it anyway? Or are you running
a special or movies or what. The only secretive part
was when they announced the phone lineup for all the
shows that they're picking up. That was the secretive part.
But yeah, I mean it was just it was felt good.
It felt fun to be a part of it. I
love TV, you know, so I get you know, I
get it.
Speaker 1: I get to go to all the events.
Speaker 2: I went to the upfronts a couple times, and all
the press tours that they did in Pasadena of our
new shows. Yeah, it was fun. You know, there was
things like that, I love my department. My department was small.
It was just me and two other guys in that department.
It was great. I and then there's the people that
have been there since fucking Batman was on the primetime schedule.
I mean, there was like some of these old older dinahs.
They're mostly like a executive assistants that have been there forever,
and they were you know, it's just was like, it
was a fun. And then I got my friend's jobs there.
I got Melissa, my friend Scott, Suzanne, and they all
stayed and you know, Suzanne's still there. So it's just
it's fun being in that environment. I loved it.
Speaker 1: So I get it. You did.
Speaker 2: You quit when you were pregnant after I got married
and Adam bought the house that he tore down and refurbished.
Once he bought that house right after we got married,
he was like, I want you to help me with
the house.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't need to go to work and then we're
gonna have kids. So I quit. And were you sad?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was. I loved it, I had it.
Speaker 2: I liked it, but at the same time, I was
just newly married, and I was excited to have kids
and get started having babies and bought this new house.
Speaker 1: So I mean I felt torn.
Speaker 2: But you know, were you always like I want to
be a stay at home mom, or did you know
pressured into it?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I was nervous to quit my job because I always
had a job where I got up, went somewhere, I
got like a routine.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Now it's like, I don't even have kids yet, and
I'm not gonna have a job, you know.
Speaker 1: But at that.
Speaker 2: Time, we were also Gina Kimmel and I were starting that
lush spa business that we were working on, so we
did have something that I was going to every day
and working on.
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2: And then I got used to it, and then we
had kids, and then we had the twins, and then
that was that.
Speaker 1: How long did the working on the spa thing last?
Speaker 2: I think it was about a year and a half,
maybe because it was tough because then you have to
get you had to get all the licenses for the
massage therapist, which took time, and we eventually got it.
But then we eventually got but then the house that
we were renting. The lady was the owner was shady,
and when I gave birth to the kids, Gina came
in that day to tell me that she sold the
property and that we had thirty days to move our
stuff out.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like grand opening and grand clothes
and that was that. And Adam didn't want me working there,
and he was like that you don't need you need
to take care of the kids and take care of
the house. And then and then yeah, he was doing
morning radio and then he then he started to podcast.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to answer it if you don't
want to, but fine. When you were in like in
the hospital, and I remember that Adam was like very busy.
He was filming The Hammer when I gave birth. Right,
he took two weeks.
Speaker 2: He planned it so that when when I was giving
birth and the kids were being born, that he would
take two weeks off of the radio show and film
The Hammer. And that's what he did. Or no, I
think he did do the radios, but he filmed.
Speaker 1: But I remember he was like broadcasting a lot, like
he was doing it from the hospital. Yes, yeah, yeah,
you just told me that he wasn't or you've told
the audience that he was not very present, right he wasn't.
Did you feel at all.
Speaker 3: Like, uh oh, like this doesn't bode well for like
their future him being well, not for their future, but
for him being like a present, like helping me with
the kids, because I know he was the one who
was like, you need a night nanny and like a
day nanny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna yeah, yeah that at the time.
Did you feel like, well, I love this guy and
like I knew what I was getting into because he's
very busy and successful, and like or was there a
part of you that was like this is not great.
I don't say.
Speaker 2: I think during the time, when you're in the middle
of it, it's hard to really see. I mean I
remember having like second thoughts when we were good to
get married. I was going to the therapist and I said,
I'm just concerned because his parents were not present for him,
didn't go to any of his games and all that,
and the therapist said, don't worry, because he's gonna She said, basically,
most people like that overcompensate and we'll be there at
all their.
Speaker 1: Games, like we did, right exactly, So yeah, I was
wrong about that.
Speaker 2: But you know during the time now, when I gave
the birth to the kids, I was in the thick
of it, so I was like, okay, I trusted you know,
he was like, don't worry, we'll get a night nurse.
We'll get the nanny because you know, he was doing
morning radio. He didn't want to wake up in the
middle of the night and we had twins to feed,
so you know, shit's hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he.
Speaker 2: Was like, well, we'll hire help because we don't have
family that can help us, you know. So luckily we did,
we hired the help and then and then you know,
you're just in it. You know, you don't realize what's
coming down the pike. You know, like I'm not changing
any diapers, you know, making that proclamation like I'm not
changing diapers. That's why i'm you know, that's what you're
for and that's why I pay somebody. But I'm not
changing any dipe and not feeding in the middle of
the night. I'm not doing any of that.
Speaker 1: So, so, did you have any moments because I know,
I know I did at the beginning where you were like, god,
I miss ABC.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yeah, I wanted to go back. I
loved it, and I was like, why did I quit
so early on? But you know, I'm newly married and
I have a husband that wants me to to you know,
stay home and take care of the house and take
care of his businesses and stuff like that, and you know,
and then he wanted me to take over Mangria and
blah blah blah, and then you know, going to the
podcast studio and working there with those guys. So then
I had other things going on, and then I enjoyed
it that stuff it, but yeah, I missed I missed
working like on my own at my own company by
you know, that didn't any anything to do with the
Corolla universe.
Speaker 1: You know, when you started the parent experiment, was it
your idea? Were you like, I want to know.
Speaker 2: You know what happened is Jimmy did Yeah, Jimmy did
Serious XM. Bruce Springsteen channel like DJ for the Day,
but they also had civilian people doing that too, like
not just celebrities. And I was like, I would love
to be DJ for the day. So I did it,
and I was on Serious XM. Bruce Radio.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Yeah, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2: I was just one, you know, like two hours of
talking about play this song, this song means this to me,
and this I wish I could get a recording of it.
Speaker 1: So you like talked on the thing yes on.
Speaker 2: The Bruce on the Serious XM channel for like an
hour and a half or something and just played music
and talked about stories of what what songs meant to me? Yeah,
just by yourself, just by myself. And it was so fun.
It was great.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: And uh then at the time she Adam was doing
the podcast, Donnie and Kathy were working for us, and
Kathy was like, and Teresa was around, and Kathy was like,
we should do you know, Adam has shit his show
because you did. You were so great on Serious XM.
You should have your own podcast. Why don't we do
a show about parenting? And Teresa wants to be a
mom and she's going to be a mom and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1: Like let's do it. And so I was like, okay,
thinking like this is not gonna last very long. And
so Teresa hadn't had a baby yet at thought. I
don't think so. I think she was trying to get pregnant. Yeah,
because her kids are quite a bit younger than the kids. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So I was like okay, you know, and then it
turned into like, oh, well we want to Then Adam
would talk about me on the show, and then people
would go like, then, you know, like what's Lynette's side
of the story of that argument? So I would like
talk about my side of the story on things and
kind of bag on him since he was bagging on
me blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And did you like that right away or were you
I was so awkward. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel comfortable talking, like I was like m
and Teresa was like, You're gonna be fine. And Teresa's
the pro like She's like, You're gonna be fine. And
then it was you know, then we had guests, remember,
like booked guests coming in, so I have to do
that much. But then I started to enjoy it, you know.
Then Teresa left and then I got the other co
host and I was like, well, now this sucks.
Speaker 1: So when Teresa left, though, were you like, well, I'm
just gonna not do this anymore or were they like no,
or were you liking it at that point and like, well,
now I want to do it?
Speaker 2: I was liking it, and Kathy was like, we knew
Teresa was leaving. She gave us plenty of time, and
Kathy was like, well, just get another co host. And
I remember her sending me different people that she liked
that she found, and there was something about what's her name,
Susannah Ris. There was something about her that I thought
was kind of funny, Like she wrote some thing about
being a mom, and I thought it was funny and clever.
So I was like, how about her? And then she
came in and she was super nice and sweet. She
always was nice and sweet. Yeah, I wasn't the problem. Yeah,
so but then we just weren't working out together and
then people were like fuck it. Yeah, they didn't like her.
Then they were also diehard Teresa's fans. It was big
shoes to fill too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but she was a how do I put this?
Because I'm not saying like I'm great or anything or that,
but she was I think trying to be a character.
She let it, and I don't I think with podcasting,
especially in the early days, people see through that really fast. Yeah,
I just want you to be real, right right, not
being yourself. She wasn't. She was playing a caricature, and
they're like, that doesn't seem true, right, because even when
I came in, and I think I guessed only one
time with her, maybe twice with her, once with Teresa.
But I do remember being like she's a lot. Yes
she was, and she was trying to trap me into
She was telling some stories that I was like really.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, I mean, first of yeah, she I
think you're right. She came in doing like a caricature
of what she thought people wanted to hear, Like, Oh,
my kids drove me so nuts that I drove to
an insane asylum over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh you did? Did you weighs it? Where is
this this insane asylum? You know that?
Speaker 2: Or I'm so in love with my husband we have
sex all the time, blah blah blah blahlah. I'm like
really really so, I just I didn't like that about her.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the stories.
Speaker 2: I smelled bullshit, and I was like, just be really, like,
just tell your real people don't want to hear that kind.
Speaker 1: Of fluffy stuff. You know. She couldn't help herself.
Speaker 2: She wanted to be funny, and she wanted to be
a performer. She was trying to perform every week, and
I didn't like, that's not me. And I was like,
I just I'm not vibing. I can't. I didn't even
care that people didn't like her. I'm like, oh, it's
growing pains. They love Teresa. Eventually they'll probably you know,
like her whatever. Don't listen to who cares what, you know? Whatever?
Speaker 1: It was more me. I was like, I am not
jiving with her. I just is not. She's not my person, right,
you know? Did you tell Kathy? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like, I don't know much longer I
can do this. And also I don't think we were
making any money or anything. I was just like, I
don't you know, if I have to do the show
with her, I'm not going to continue doing it for
too much longer.
Speaker 1: Then Stephanie Wilder Taylor came in.
Speaker 2: And oh, and then Kathy was like, well, what guest
would make you happy? And then she was like, I'm
going to go after Bruce Springsteen's wife.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, You're.
Speaker 2: Not getting Bruce Springsteen's wife to come on my podcast?
Will you never know unless you ask? And I'm like, no,
that's not realistic. And then I read about you and
I thought about you, and I was like, I think
we I would love for her, but I don't think
we're ever going to get her. I think she you know,
she's a big time author, Like she's not coming on
our show.
Speaker 1: I didn't think we could get you. And then next
week you were there. And then she wrote to me
and I was like, what's a podcast. She was like,
it's like the radio, but it's on the internet. And
I was like, all right, I'm in right right, sure, yes,
And then it was fun that episode.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh my god, I had
so much fun with her, Like that's who I want.
Speaker 1: That's what that was Meiki the Viky episode, We're yeah,
we were talking about the vik Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That
was a good a good vibe. So then when I
came back when Suzette, that was really good with you
and me and Teresa. Right then I came back and
it was Susanna and I was like, this is a
very different vibe. And I I was like, Lynette doesn't
seem happy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And then I got a Facebook message from
you like it.
Speaker 1: Was a Twitter message. It was yeah, it was Twitter. Yeah,
I tweeted. I twitter messaged you and I was like,
I was like, hey, you might need me or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you could. Net I think you you yeah,
you said I.
Speaker 1: If you ever I think, I said, I had a
great time. I loved doing it. And I said, and
if you ever decide something like that, I might need me.
If you ever do something like that, I knew you. You
wrote back like, yeah, I think I do.
Speaker 2: I got what you're putting down. Oh yeah. I was like,
let's go have lunch. And then I was like, well
it's got to be Kathy's decision. Yes, what I was thinking.
But yeah, but she went along with it. She did
till she didn't.
Speaker 1: It's just it's funny that like literally and then it
was really fun at the beginning, and I did. I
went and I like traveled to San Diego with Kafy.
Oh that's trying to help her do well. I was
trying to not come in and immediately go like, no,
this is what we're doing. Yeah. But I did feel
very strongly that podcasting was a meet the reason. I
felt that the reason that Susannah didn't work, even though
she's a funny person and super nice, I felt that
the reason it wasn't working was what people wanted was
just real talk, yes, right, and that's what you had
to offer. And then when she was trying to go,
don't talk ever talk about having a nanny yet, I
felt like it was a lot of pretending and then
a lot of And that's why I was pushing back
and going, I don't think that's yes.
Speaker 2: And I loved it because I was like, yes, Stephanie,
go you talk like, speak up. I tell her like, no,
I don't think that's right. Yeah, you're like, just talk
about who? And then you and I would talk around
without Kathy involved, and you were just like, just.
Speaker 1: Be yourself and talk about whatever the fuck you want
to talk about, right. But then I would get mad
because she would book guests without telling us and she
would just be like because she wanted to be the producer, right,
which I was like, I don't think we really need
a produce. Like in my mind, I was like I
don't know what the producer really does because I was
already a TV producer. So I was like, Oh, we're doing,
but we don't want like pitch us the guests, like
just book a shitty guest, yes. And that's when I'll
never forget when I was like got actually mad was
because she booked the guy and she presented it to
us this was this was the tree guy guy, and
she pitched it to us like this guy is this
is a great opportunity. And then I went and looked
on Amazon and his book was that like ranked it
like number one million. Yes, And I was like, this
is not an opportunity. This is an opportunity for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you saying anything with us, Yes, yes,
we're doing more for him than he's doing for us, right,
so at least like and.
Speaker 1: I think then we interviewed him and he was such
an asshole. He was He was just a blow hard asshole,
like very challenging to any questions we had. And I
was like, there's no point of that we helped him,
he didn't help us. Like if we're gonna have guests,
like have them be people that are right that we
want to a yeah.
Speaker 2: And then there was like the Betsy Brown Beretsy Triple b.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the triple Bot.
Speaker 2: She came on like a couple times, right, a lot
of times, yeah, and she would lecture us and so
that was a little tongue in cheek too, like she'd
come in and then we'd be like taking the piss
out of her, you know, like, oh, come on, like
one kid's gonna have their own special day and then
the other kids.
Speaker 1: Like, well she didn't get our hour. And we're like,
we're trying to do less, not more. She'd be like,
you gotta challenge yourself. You really got to like oh,
she was like, don't call them be twin Oh that's right.
She would correct us, right right right, and we'd be like, well,
they're not here listening, they'res I know. Oh that was
so funny. Oh my god, I ever got. She'd be like,
every yeah, you're you have to give each of the
kids a special day, and then she would make us
feel bad by going, I did it with triple triplets. Yeah,
everybody gets their special day. And then they can pick
what color sippy cup they have and what color plate
and what. And we're like, they're how tired we already
are just listening to that.
Speaker 2: I mean cover, I know it didn't apply to our
real reality, right of being moms, right to multiples.
Speaker 1: So it's like sometimes we thought she was a little
bit in on the joke, but then you'd push back
a little bit and she'd get kind of actually salty,
and then you'd be like, oh, no, she's not thinking
this is like right.
Speaker 2: Right, because I think even our audience was in on
the joke, like oh my god, they were talking about
like talking about conversations where we were pushing back and
then yeah, and then she kind of got yeah, she
got a little h but then she helps.
Speaker 1: To come back on. And I remember because this was
after we were it was for crying out loud, and
producer Gary would be like, Betsy Brown Brown want to
come back on and we'd be like no, and he's like, oh,
she's really like she keeps asking, and we'd be like, okay,
one more time, but we're not going to put up
with our bullshit, right right right, that's right, And then
we'd both be like two little yes, like go right,
look at the principal's office. Yes, she's so bossy. She
was really.
Speaker 2: Then we had Gary who like changed our lives because
he was like, we'll do the show you guys want
to do. We don't need to book guess. You guys
don't want guess, we don't need guests.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, hellelujah, I know, thank God, and Kathy
in one ear are just going I'm going to produce
this great show and we're gonna and then I but
then I went and sat with you and Gary after
one of our shows, and Gary was like, listen, we're
going to keep doing the show. We're not going to
miss a beat. We have our same audience. You guys
do whatever. What he he like blew smoke up our assles.
Yet he was just like, what you guys do is magic.
You guys know what you're doing. Yeah, you don't need
a producer like that, right, you need somebody to get
out of your way and just let you guys. That's right, Yes, God,
I les, Gary, Yeah, that's right. And then we got Kaylin,
and Gary was fun too. Gary was fun. He was fun.
Speaker 2: He brought some stories and we goofed on him. He
goofed on us. You know, Yeah, he was fun.
Speaker 1: He's fun. I'm trying to think he must it must
not have been that long with him though, at least
a year, right, I think so? I think so. And
then he started training Kaylin, who we thought was named
Brandon right for so long because he looks like a Brandon.
Oh my god. And then remember the story, Kaylen doesn't
listen to our episodes anymore. Remember when I thought I
got a d M. I know you're gonna I got
an inappropriate at DM from Kaylan. Right. It was like
and I don't remember what it was, but it was
like I can't stop looking like it was something very
like flirty yes, yes, and like I know, like I've
been catching your eye something remembered and then I was like,
oh my god, I pulled you aside and I was like, Lynette, like,
I don't know, I feel really weird. I don't know
if it was that blatant, but it was something, and
it was a series of messages. Yeah, and I told you,
and I was so uncomfortable. Very We're like, that is
not Kaylan, right, But who was it? Somebody like hacked him?
I think that's like, how does that happen? I don't know,
but you were like he would be mortified if you
said anything. He it was not him. Didn't we ask
him though? He must have been.
Speaker 2: He was like what, yeah he was somebody hated him. Yeah,
and he was mortified. Yeah, it wasn't him because that
is just not his person, right whatsoever?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It was kind of back in the day when accounts
were hackable. Yes, yeah, yees, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Was hilarious, you know, and I was like, oh my god,
I don't know if I can keep doing the show
with the rest or like he's being inappropriate. It wasn't.
That's so funny, I know. And thank god though you
were just like no, no, And I was like, oh
you think and you're like no, he was like a
little kid back then. No, a little bait baby Kaylen.
He was like twenty one. Yeah, he was so young. Yeah.
I don't think he even knew how to flirt.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't, No, little kattle Kitlen. He was the sweetest.
Yeah he tried, he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But so any like shows that we need
to catch people up on recommendations, you're, oh, we need
to talk about the is it Murdoch or Murdo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it's. It's the more tragedy
that's on. Is abound Murdoch or Murdach murder Murdoc?
Speaker 1: Okay? Herd Doc Okay. So my friend Kathleen will Hooyt
plays Gloria the housekeeper.
Speaker 2: She does she's doing a great job, right, Yes, yeah, yeah,
I don't think I seen the most recent episode.
Speaker 1: Are you caught up? No, I'm not caught up. But
it's good. It's on Hulu.
Speaker 2: It's on Hulu, and she's playing the nanny that they.
Speaker 1: Call her Go Go or whatever. Yeah, because her name
is Gloria. Oh is that like their go Go Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And the last episode I saw, they were out of
town and she had an accident on the stairs, and
that's how it ended.
Speaker 1: They just got back from me and out of town. Okay,
because they took her with them out of town, right, No,
they didn't take her Okay. They showed more of her
life at home and what kind of life she had,
so they delved into her story a little more while
they were on vacation and Kokomo or whatever the fuck.
And then they came back and they asked her to
unload the car their suitcases, and she had an accident,
tripped and fell on the stairs. Now, when you're watching this,
aren't you just like how crazy is it that this
isn't actual? This is like a doctor true story. Crazy.
It's so many right with that family that would never happen,
right did it did? It's real?
Speaker 2: And I mean so many things going back to Dy's
and also another cover up that they did from years
earlier that happened with the older brother Buster and just unbelievable.
But the acting is so good and our girl, Patricia
Arquette's doing phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's just so great. I love her.
Her voice is different. She is like on Meryl Street.
She is because you think back to like True Romance, Yeah,
Quentin Tarantino movie that she was in that she was
so good in. Yeah, playing Alabama, right, and she was
so like just blonde, and she has this kind of
hot voice and she's like, oh my Alabama, you know,
and now cut to this like right matriarchs and yeah, yeah,
and it's so like her voice is lower. And then
that compared to also to Escape from Dana.
Speaker 2: Mora, right, and how she wasn't there like she just
and and also she's also a star of Severance on
Apple TV and she does a phenomenal job on that show.
Speaker 1: She's just she that she plays totally diff She was
played the lead of she was Medium on Medium for
minutes she.
Speaker 2: Was medium, and she was the mother of, uh, the
kid in the wheelchair.
Speaker 1: What's her name?
Speaker 2: Oh, Gypsy Gypsy she rose yeah, Blanchard, Blanchard, right, She
played that that. She was great into she's so great.
Speaker 1: She is underrated. She is underrated, I really think. So.
She does an amazing job. She should all be ashamed
of yourself. Yeah, under estimating Patricia R or forgetting about
her or whatever you're all doing. It's not cool, right.
Speaker 2: Go.
Speaker 1: Check out on her other stuff. Yeah, she's great. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm watching that, and I'm also watching Devil in
Disguise the John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 1: I'm a couple episodes creepy. It is creepy.
Speaker 2: But I listened to an interview on a podcast or
the director of that show, and he said, I don't
want to glorify any of the murders, and I want
I wanted to tell the victims stories. So each episode
is named after a victim, you know. Uber Episode three
is like Johnny, you know, and he shows who they
were before they were killed, and he does it in
a really respectful way.
Speaker 1: So it is it's interesting. So a couple episodes into that, well,
you had recommended the ed Gaining and I was like
watching it, just going, why am I doing this to myself?
This is so creepy. It was creepy. It's really creepy. Yeah.
Did you stay with it? No? Yeah, but I did watch.
I watched the whole second season of Nobody Wants This.
I feel like you would love. It's about to their sisters,
Kristen Bell and her and not her real life sister,
but it's about two sisters that have a podcast, right,
and they make lots. What I love about it is
they make a lot of really modern jokes. Like at
one point, Kristen Bell's character is like Joanna or Joanne
is like, you know what I want? I just want
to like be by myself and watch Love Is Blind.
I'm like, really, Yeah, they make like they speak in
a way that is familiar to how millennials kind of tall. Yeah,
and it's just fun. It's fun.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it. I don't know why I didn't
watch it when it first came out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I missed it. But yeah,
when I watched the whole first season, I told Elbe
to watch it, and Elbe, you know, does not like
to watch stuff that I recommend. Yeah, so she was
like okay, and then all of a sudden she was like, Mom,
I'm watching Nobody Wants Is. I love it so much.
I binge the whole season. Really Yeah, now I told
her that there was second season was out, and she
was like, oh my god, I'm so excited, and she
got Then she told her roommates about it and they
were and how much she liked Adam Brodie and then
her roommates were like, oh, you like him in this,
you'll love them in the OC. Now they're watching the
o C. That's so funny. Well, I'm gonna watch it. Yeah.
Don't you love when your kids listen to you for
a change. I know, and then I'm are happy and
like it. Yeah, I'm trying to see if there's something
else that I saw that I wanted to tell you about. Oh,
by the way, I got a jury summons.
Speaker 2: I did too, you did, yes, but I'm pissed because
it sat at the accountant's office.
Speaker 1: So I missed the deadline by two days. Oh we
can still go in there. I know I'm gonna call.
So you got a jury So I got a jury
summons and I went in and check it out because
I was like, this is going to be really hard
to serve jury duty when I teach rights. I teach Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday at five, so even if I got out by four,
it could be dicey. Yeah, like if I have to
go to my car and there's traffic, I just don't.
I was nervous. But you can postpone it. So I
postponed it to the week that my classes are done, okay,
and then I'm off for the rest of the year,
like December tenth. Okay. So I probably won't get pulled
in for a trial because of the type of time
of year. I hope I do, because I'll bring stories, right,
I know me too. I'm gonna cough go in and
say you missed the deadline or call I'm gonna do that,
and then you can postpone, right, Okay, I'm gonna do that,
So that'll be fun. I'm excited for that, right, Yeah,
I'm excited. And then I think I think that's all
the stories. Oh, listen to Drunkish So today is Friday,
but go back and listen to my Tuesday episode because
I interviewed rosebud Baker, who is She just finished like
four years writing for SNL. Oh wow. Yeah, she's a comedian.
She's hilarious, and her story was like she has a
really good story. Oh nice mom. Yeah, she's a two
year old and she's like funny. All right, you like
her cool? Yeah, all right, let's say hello to our
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