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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number three ot B.
Let's talk a little New Orleans Saints. And to do so,
our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football joins us.
Speaker 4: Nicholas, how are we doing today, sir? Doing good, doing good,
you know, strong to quite.
Speaker 3: Strong as Florida week. And you know that brings a
little last year extra juice to this show. We just
were Gator haters, you know, and so anytime Florida's coming
to town, we just we turned the hate up.
Speaker 4: Nick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look in a little soft right now though, so
it might be a good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I mean actually I don't love that.
Speaker 3: It's like the only time, like I kind of want
to Florida to win, So it could be like this
nice top like twelve matchup, but they let the bulls
of South Florida I take them now. But it's Okay,
our hate still doesn't go away. So we're excited, we're
fired up. And look, I actually I think it's a
lot of good to take away from the New Orleans
Saints on Sunday against the Cardinals because this year, for me,
like I want to see them continue to develop, continue
to grow, continue to get better, because there's a lot
of new and nobody on this show, any show, really
was calling for the New Orleans Saints to be a
playoff team. We all know that. So actually, look, it
was a loss. There's no moral victories. I understand all that,
but the operation of everything, for the most part, it
actually looked like it's on schedule and there's some benefits
and things that you can take from that game, I
think moving forward.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really comes down to how just how you're
processing it and what your expectations are. And for me,
it felt like it felt like, you know, a good game.
And I'm not someone looking for moral victories or anything,
but right now, like I'm just I just don't see
a team that's gonna win nine to ten games and
make the playoffs. Like you just want to see young
guys make plays. You want to see progress, you want
to see Kellen Moore system makes sense. You want to
see Brandon Staley system fitting guys and how people make
them plays, and I think we saw all of that.
And I know that that Spencer Rattler's yard per a
time yards peray times was like four point six, which
is way too low, and you don't want that most weeks.
But I thought, overall, I thought you kind of managed
that game pretty well. And if you're going against an
Arizona team and the whole week we're talking about how
good those safeties are, probably don't want to challenge them
too much. So even on some of that stuff like
where I'm arching in maybe one eyebrow, I'm not arching
too like, just let's wait and get more information. The
only thing I really didn't like in this game was
the thirteen penalties. I think eight of them were preached. Now,
the thirteen penalties were the most that the States I
think have had in the last eight years. But the
difference between I think this team and when we were
having these same types of conversations about penalties and operationals
and all this stuff, you know, two three years ago,
is that I actually think they'll get sixed now, Like
I think that Kellen Laura and the staff. I think
they're legitimately smart, intelligent people. I think they're going to
see problems. I think they're going to address them, and
I think that stuff's going to get better. So definitely
could have been worse. It was a watchable product and
really that's all I'm looking for right now is that
it just isn't an act and punchless and like they looked, okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you talk about the penalties. Like, to me, that
was kind of the theme of that game, when when
you look at everything, you talked about the yards per
a tempt with Rattler, and you're watching this game're like,
all right, like push it down the field, push it
down the field. But when you put yourself, when you
back yourself up and you put your put yourself in
non normal down in distances, defenses can just play shelling
right and just make you beat them by taking the
short stuff, making you check it down, making you take
the underneath rout. And it seemed like that's what Arizona
was doing the entire game. They were they said, all right,
you're not going to beat us deep. We're going to
make a young quarterback go the distance of the field.
We're going to make him be patient, be patient, be
patient and beat us that way. And at the end
of the day, we just didn't execute enough. But uh,
like I know you've broken down all the numbers and
watched the film and seeing what coverages and things like that,
but it was did that seem like did that translate?
Did that opinion kind of translate that they just made
took everything deep away and made Spencer play underneath.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for sure. I mean I think I
was definitely their playing. And I also think that the
Saints made the decision not like Okay, they're going to
try to do that and we are going to challenge
it and let Spencer get in trouble by you know,
trying to hit the whole throws against you know, these covers.
Like it's just not that that's not smart, Like you
shouldn't be trying to do that. And I think I
think there was like an element two of done maybe
keeping you know, some pages of the playbook closed it
in this one, but I think that's what you should
be doing. Like I think they need to fill out
this quarterback and probably not expect him to win them games.
And I don't think you're gonna play that way and
over time he might earn that and might earn that trust.
But I think it's a little bit of both. I
think Arizona absolutely what was playing that brand of football,
and I think the Saints weren't really trying to challenge it.
And I think that's okay for now, Like you got
to figure it out, you got to feel it out
like these are. You know, it's it's not Aaron Rodgers
like a quarterback, like you got to play a certain
type of way. And I think their best bet of
winning a game, stealing a game from from Arizona, and
they almost did, is to play kind of safe and
be a little bit conservative and not make mistakes because
this isn't a team that's going to be good enough
to overcome you know, an intersection or or you know,
you're giving up points, like there's just not there's not
enough firepower there right now. So I think we're gonna
probably see a lot of tighter game plans at times,
and they're going to just try to stay in games
helped they get a break and help things go their way.
And it almost did like that throw it can to
the game that Juwan Johnson like that that's like a
Drew Brees level throw, Like like if he catches that
thing like that, that goes on the canton reeal for
like guys that go in there like that was an
incredible throw and it probably should have got caught, Like
a very hard play to make. But you know, you
give a guy thirty four million dollars to be a
big guy that makes tough touches. But they got you know,
I think I think he got to make that one.
I'm not killing him for it. It's just one that
that you know, you're you're paid to come down with.
You know. The Washington game last year too, that two
point conversion was another one that he that he probably
should have caught hit him in the ance. But yeah, I
mean I definitely agree with that. I think that that's
what it looked like. And uh, you know, I'm not
I'm not not out of them for for not ask
con Spencer Ratler to push it in game one under
a new regime, Like I think that's that's probably smart football.
Speaker 6: Right now, the narrative for quarterbacks and head coaches are
so wild because of a little like you're so relying
on the execution of everybody, right it's the greatest team sports.
So what's the Like, the narrative for Spencer Rattler's game
if he comes down with that catch is so much Yeah,
it's so much different. It's so reliant on your teammates
on everything, because you're right, he did. He took what
the defense gave him and he We all were like,
he played pretty darn good. We're not gonna say played
grave though, like it was a safe game plan, but
like you make that catch, The narrative of Spencer Rattler
is like, holy hell, we got a guy that's two
minute drive.
Speaker 3: It to the nixt point when when you are in
there for that reason, was it an easy catch?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: But with Juwan Johnson, we've seen his run blocking, we
saw it Sunday. You're in there for that play and
you expect him to make it.
Speaker 5: Absolutely Yeah, No, you guys are told the right like
if he catches that, or like if there's like another
another deep throw, like the yards first coup goes up.
So that's not a narrative. And by the way, Joe
Burrow was at four point nine and Boonix was at
like four, so like, you know, all this frasing gets
done off of one game is like so stupid, Like
it's just so point just kind of got to see
where it was in Seawle Belzie. Yeah, if he makes
that catch, Yeah, they stole the guy. And then the
people are probably like, well why did they draft shocked?
They could have Bill Johnson and like, you know all
this stuff, like it's completely completely different, you know, And
I go back to game one of the Jamis regime
when he threw pro like I can't even remember. It
was like one hundred and eighty yards of five touchdowns
against dream Day in that first game, and it was like,
oh my god, chomping and like created another Hall of Famer.
And then you know, it turns out his gamus wants
to like but the framing of the whole thing is
completely dependent on that one play. And if he makes
that play, yeah, right now, the conversation we're having it
did they steal a guy? And oh my god, could
he be it? Like it just changes the conversation so much.
Speaker 6: Nig did you see the the Cas Brock party throws
the game winning touchdown in Seattle this week? Did you
see that play? Like he throws it, he scrambles out
and it was going right to a defender. It should
have been interception. This guy, his teammate comes out of nowhere,
jumps in front of the guy and he catches up.
Of course it goes down, game winning drive, game winning
touchdown pass. It's like Spencer's throw was so much better
than like that one was a terrible decision, but you
know he gets the game when it's just it's it's
a football is a crazy game like that, and when
you you either get your flowers or you get the hate,
and it's all dependent on other people usually.
Speaker 7: So pretty well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially in like small sample season when it when
it's one game like it gets a little out of control. Man,
it might be Matt Jones week this week though, So
that's what I'm definitely a watch. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting and U hey, can you confirm or deny either way?
That to Mario Davis has found the fountain of youth.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: The way he's playing is crazy. The way was playing
was crazy too. And you know, one of the things
I heard from a lot of the guys on defense
the last couple of years, and things go bad, you
guys know how it goes, like people sid to get
frustrated with stuff and when it's working well, like the
smartest thing in the world, but like they were starting
to get a little frustrated the last couple of years
that they felt like they weren't being put in the
rules where where they featuring the playmakers on defense was
the phrasing that was often used, and it was just really,
you know, a tight scheme and there wasn't a lot
of freedom within it. I think there's a little bit
of freedom within what they're doing. I think that they're
doing a good job of trying to feature these guys.
I was talking to the Mario yesterday. He told me
this is the most fun he's ever had playing football,
and I think it kind of looks like that, you know.
I think those run plays behind those big guys in
the three fourth front when God shots beating up a
couple of blocks and you can just go fly through
a gap and make a play like you see that
showing up and then the Mario's reading reactability I think
really shot it in those situations. There's a play though,
like where he's like sitting in the middle of the
field and he breaks down into the right flat and
snuffs out a screen for a lots of the yard,
which was absolutely an insane play to see him make
they kind of had like that that middle screen to
the receiver. Dorsch he saw that and lit it up.
I mean you could go through and probably make it
cut up of about probably twelve to fifteen plays and
of him just doing things that is, you know, plus
moments and that's huge. I mean at some point he's
going to look like an older guy. But I think
just you know, the ability to see and react to
things and then the scheme change in just a little
bit that maybe highlight that like shows up for him
and then for Cam, like you know, I think a
lot last last year, like you would see see him,
you know, line up over the tackle five Tex seven,
like they're out in that like wide nine and the
wive nine so wide that it should probably be like
a why to eleven. It was like their replaced when
you're watching the end zone, you where they have the
defensive line and you they actually had to like zoom
out to get Cam in the frame. And like it's
just a completely different role than we've seen over the
last couple of years. And now, you know, I think
allowing him to get another step, you know, get a
little bit of ahead of steam going, you can turn
speed into power like that very first sack like you
saw that, I think on the past fit the same thing. Like,
I think it's given him a little bit more room
to operate. I think allows him to make plays. And
that was the biggest shock to me in the world because, like,
you know, the last couple of years, you're looking at
him and you kind of think, you know, something's happening,
and this is just like a complete turnaround. Not you know,
I don't expect him to get a sack and a
half every single week, but I do think that maybe
this scheme, like it'll be able to operate a little
bit better, might put him in better position to succeed.
You know, he's kind of done on a very open
and honest you know, every time he talks about Todd Grantam,
like he says his name and he tells you what
he thinks about him, and you know it wasn't a
very high opinion, and you know, maybe it looks like
maybe he was right. Man. You know, Todd Grantham gives
up sixty nine points on Saturday to the docs is
Oklahoma States defensive Coordinator? Like not a good week for end?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick one thing that stuck out to me during
the game in a negative way was the missed opportunity
to call a time out at the end of the
first half to you know, have a chance to be aggressive,
try to steal three right there at the end when
you get the ball back. Now, I think the thing
that underthought about or under talked about is Kellen Moore
has to learn how to be a head coach and
a play caller at the same time.
Speaker 7: It's not an easy thing.
Speaker 6: Most offensive play go So I was in Green Bay
Mike McCarthy was a play caller. There, there's a guy
that was in charge of clock management, like, there's a
guy that is there somebody on that staff that is
in so hey, Kellen has to learn how to juggle
all these things. Okay, so the defenses out on the field.
As a play caller offensive coordinator, all you're thinking about
is your next series on offense, Like what pow do
I want to hit him? How do I want to
attack this defensive coordinator? Looking at the things that they're
they're doing to me like what are they what kind
of pressures they bring you? You can't do that as
a head coach. You can't go look at the pictures.
You can't sit there and dissect it, so you have
to worry about like the clock management. But usually for
play calling head coaches, there is somebody that is in
charge of those special situations. So even though the head
coach gets the blame and he has to make that,
there's no excuse really for it. And I know there's
probably is an excuse, but you're looking at it. It's
a national footballg there's no excuse for not wanting to
do that, be aggressive and score points. Is there somebody
on staff that is that you know of, that is
kind of in.
Speaker 4: Charge of that role?
Speaker 5: He has good questions, probly sathing I should have like
gotten specific clarity on yesterday, so that that's a that's
a week one hit off me and I'll get that
thing up and get better.
Speaker 4: Take that question.
Speaker 5: I'll definitely, I'll definitely ask it. You know, this week
he did bring in Scott line in and I think
that's probably the guy that that's probably in charge of
that stuff. He's a senior offensive assistant. Kind of seems
like that would probably be his role. He's been around
for a while. I think the game management aspect would
probably be you know, with with him, I think everybody
else that we see on the offensive staff is down
on the sideline. So I'm assuming he's up in the
booth kind of handle on some of that stuff. But
it's definitely you know, look a couple of things here, like, yes,
I think he needs to develop. And when they hired him,
I had talked to somebody with another team I had
previously interviewed Keelim Moore and They're like, then, he's really smart,
but it's probably gonna take him sometime develop as a
head coach. And I think that's true. I mean, look,
even last night we saw in the Bears game then
Jasin like totally screwed up that end of game situation bad.
They should have kicked the ball out of bound to
get ball at the forty you get the two minute warning.
Like I think there's just stuff that you have to
go through, and I think people here probably forget how
bad Trump Payton was his first couple of years at
game management stuff Like I think you just kind of
have to learn it and you get better at it,
and you know, you grow. I think the one thing
that he probably didn't do as well as he could have,
and it turned into two day stories I just did.
I felt like the explanations of it on the first
day weren't great. And if you just came out when
somebody said yesterday, which was basically, hey, look, we saved
the timeouts because they had their three and we didn't
want to go three and out and give him a
chance to score at the end of the half. Like
if you just say that, I don't necessarily agree with
the approach that I can understand that, Like this is
an offense. I wasn't moving the ball very well. You're
playing tight, you're kind of like not trying to make
a mistake, and you think points for at a premium
and maybe you can steal the game and guess what,
Like he was almost right, Like if Juwan touches that
pass and another thing, we're narratives change, Like it's like, well,
they played tight and you catch the pass and you
hit the two point conversion. Like we're getting into a
lot of hits here. But like the whole game management
theory wasn't necessarily all the way around, even though if
I I don't like playing type there, But like if
you had just explained it, it wouldn't it wouldn't have been
a two day story. It would have been a one
day story. But like, again, I think that just goes
into to learning how to handle things as the head coach.
That's the first time he's ever been questioning about, you know,
clock management. It's the first time he's ever been into
a clock management situation. You learn, you grow, and like
the good thing is is that this is probably a
five win team and those mistakes probably aren't gonna cost
you too many games, Like they are' gonna be a
difference three in the playoffs probably, So you know, I
think it's okay. I think he's I think he's really
smart though, Like you look at some of the offensive
plays on Like some of the stuff they're doing is
just you know, I've been watching you know, kind of
the same offense for so long, Coop back a little
bit last year, but like there's just stuff in there
that's so much different. And you know, they didn't hit
on all the plays, but like you see the creativity,
you see the intelligence behind everything they do. Like I'm
okay with him needing sometimes to get better as long
as he learns from the stuff. And again, I think
he's a very self aware individual. And I think you
will clean up his own mistake and figure out how
to get better out of him pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: All right, there he is Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot
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You're listening to Off the Bench Cross.
Speaker 4: Show. You shut just across? All right? Welcome back heah
O TV Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3: Alright, Uh, the New Orleans Saints could be facing a
very very banged up San Francisco forty nine er team.
No George Killer going to be in this contest. They
might be facing McCorkle. Oh, McCorkle, who's that Mac Jones?
Speaker 4: This his real name. Mccorky still plays, He's the only
team he might play.
Speaker 3: Rock pretty questionable for this game, sor Kittle out, Juan
Jennings questionable for this contest now. Also in the Saints
injury report, Chase Young questionable, Trevor Pinning questionable. Uh, Jordan
Howden questionable, Juaga questionable.
Speaker 7: So did did Alva end up on the injury report?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 8: Or guy, they're out there trying to kill him.
Speaker 2: You mean more injured than he Yeah, like more injured
than he is.
Speaker 8: Like he's just permanently injured.
Speaker 4: We're not going to put on there.
Speaker 7: You know, we don't need.
Speaker 2: To put him on the already.
Speaker 4: I appreciate him fighting to get back in the game though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's something that we talked about like last year,
like what's the point of trying to fight that fight
and get back right?
Speaker 3: Well you did, Yeah, I'm a meat heead sure. I've
been like, let's shoot it up. It's a concussion, Yeah, sure,
shoot an opportunity to hit someone. I don't care for
roh and fifty exactly, never will care. So we got
another shot this weekend. Then I think they do say
we loven't care too. I'm officially lead. I mean certainly
if rock Party doesn't play yeah, now like Kittle Party
did not play great this past no, and Kittle being
out like that's his safety blanket. Like Brock Party is
only at his best when George Kittle's in the lineup.
And that's like I'm not saying like there's a lot
of quarterbacks that have that right, but like Kittle is
without question his when he's not playing great, he's like, Okay,
I gotta find my guy.
Speaker 4: Where's he at.
Speaker 3: Let me let me get comfortable, let me throw him
a ball, and let's get going a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, when you didn't have Juwan Jennings last week, that showed.
And then like to your point, when Kittle went out
of the game, it was let me lock on to
Ricky Pierce Hall and like, I like Brock Party, but
like he went to Ricky Pierce Hall and then they
kind of started locking in on everything was great. He
was great, but.
Speaker 6: Some good shot one year to playing pretty well the
next literally literally shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he had four for over one hundred.
Speaker 9: I mean, we talk about the bright spot of the
Saints is their defense. So I feel like if you
don't have Brock Party, you don't have George Kittle, that
makes it a little easier for them. Get some stops
out there. Spencer Rattler, rat Pack, let's go, let's go.
I'm kind of feeling a win games. I'm kind of
feeling it's in the dome. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's funny when that's why it's going.
Speaker 4: Let's go right here.
Speaker 2: It's funny though. When the forty nine ers gave up
their three first round picks a couple of years ago
to move up to three overall, people questioned, are they
taking Mac Jones or Trey Lance. They've had both and
they're both backups. So that's kind of fun, really good.
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 4: This is super fun. Life's a circle man life has.
Speaker 3: Right now, the forty nine Ers are a four and
a half point favorite on the road. Last week, the
Cardinals were six and a half. Now they covered whatever,
it's going down a little bit. It's going down, I
throw a little something on it is going four.
Speaker 7: And a half points? Is they don't see that throw
that was dropped?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not even like I know. I guess we
were kind of kidding with with Nick about that. But
and I'm not saying it's an easy catch.
Speaker 4: It's not. But it's one.
Speaker 3: That when that's what you are, that's who you are
talking about, the one that the third down or bat shouldered.
It's in his hands and he when that's who you are,
you have to catch it. Because we talked about this
on Monday. That's why you're in there. Like, okay, let
me pull up Juwan Johnson's grades. Okay, because he had
some moments. He graded out overalls a fifty seven. You're like,
wait a minute, he had a pretty good game. Well,
it's because his run blocking grade was a thirty four,
Like You're not in there to run block.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: You're in there to make that play. And the NFL
is a harsh reality. That's what you're in there for. Like,
if Flynn was in the game, he was in the
game to make difficult throws. If I was in the game,
I was in the game to make difficult blocks. He's
in the game to make difficult catches. So like, I'm
not saying it was easy, but I'm not going to
give you a pass when that's why you are there,
it's to make that play. To high point the football,
it's a very difficult catch, but it was in his hands,
he was bringing it down and he allowed to defend
her to knock it out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good life lesson. We live in a
results oriented world. Football in the NFL certainly is a
results oriented league. And you didn't make the play. You're
not out there for a good try, not out there
to try hard.
Speaker 7: You're out there to do and didn't get it done.
Speaker 6: And it is it is fresh, and it would have
been a hard catch, it would have been a grow
you would have you know, the announcers would sayd.
Speaker 4: What a great throw, what a great catch, great play.
All around.
Speaker 6: I remember I threw a pass like that in the
igains the Vikings one year and it was to a
tight end right at the middle. He was number three,
and it was one of those you know, two man separation.
Now number three the third guy, third guy lined up
so in that he became my number one because it
was like cover two man. So he's running like a
seam and you're catching the linebacker and transition you throw
it over the top of his head. It was like
the throws i' you know, watched Aaron do a billion
times in a game, and like I did it during
the game. Yeah, made a good throw and he dropped
it and in the end zone. That was the game
we tied. It was like, oh, man, like, do you
want that on your highlight film? And yeah, I'm still
definitely over it.
Speaker 4: Tight end. What year that would have been? We can
look it up, or you can just give us a name.
Speaker 6: I don't want to call names. Okay, we'll look it up.
I mean we had a lot of tight ends.
Speaker 3: Okay, what year the year they tied the Vikings, that's
when you came back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, two thousand and thirteen. He was a good player.
I mean he wasn't like, he wasn't our starter. He
was gonna play them. Yeah, actually, I don't remember. It
was one of two people.
Speaker 4: Now you're awful.
Speaker 6: And Andrew Corlis was our tight end for the big
part of that year.
Speaker 3: I never heard those are I can't remember who it was.
Those are two names I've never heard.
Speaker 2: Andrew Corliss never heard. I'm gonna say there was a
better chance it was Bostic. He was targeted six times,
only one catch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably that's not great.
Speaker 8: Michael Finley, he.
Speaker 4: Would have caught it.
Speaker 7: He even played that game.
Speaker 4: He would have caught it. He was very underrated.
Speaker 7: He was incredible. Was like he was.
Speaker 4: It was a short period of time, a short period.
Speaker 7: Of time where I was like, Wow, that guy is
gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: A lot of injuries.
Speaker 4: He had a lot of a lot of concussions.
Speaker 9: Someone's asking if we should, if they should take the
Saints and their survival.
Speaker 8: That, I mean, we're guaranteeing you should.
Speaker 7: Who's got who what's a survivor pick.
Speaker 3: I'll take it this way. I mean, I don't know
who it is, but I'm saying I'll take it was
the Eagles. Yeah, they got here, Well, Harry, it should
have been good, good pick.
Speaker 7: Though, good pick, a little.
Speaker 2: Nervous, actually, Dac out there having the game still wasn't
good enough.
Speaker 6: Give me your Taylor and Landry, give me your super
Bowl predictions right now. Not the winner the game based
on one week super way too early early reaction.
Speaker 2: Just based on how they looked week one. Hill's Packers, Bill's.
Speaker 9: Packers, Okay, Bill's for sure in there. I don't really
know about it. I didn't watch the Packers, so I
don't have an opinion on that.
Speaker 6: The clips that I saw I follow a lot more.
I get a lot more Packers fed to me in
my social media. So the clips on defense and I
want to see maybe we can pull it up next segment,
like the clips on them flying around to the ball.
I said this term yesterday and I hate to overuse
it by like football, it's great. So it was like
defensive football porn watching this, Okay, So it is like
it is people flying around football and flying and running
to the football is a choice. It is a choice
on defense. You either choose to do it or you
choose not to do it. Oh, those guys got it,
they'll handle it. There's already three over there. Watching them
is like watching a zombie apocalypse movie. Like it is
like is eleven guys flying to the ball, like watching film,
like you're the Commanders watching the film right now.
Speaker 7: It's like, man, these guys are flying to the ball.
Speaker 6: They are playing with an extra level of effort that
you just don't see all the time in the NFL
in the regular season. They're playing playoff football right there,
and it is a fun watch to go see these
clips these guys and like it was I think it
was one of the guys with Jamior Gibbs making great moves,
like a great run. He jokes like two people, but
he's still like within one yard line of scrimmage. He
bounces it out, there's like eight more guys attacking him,
fighting at his knees, fighting his knee caps.
Speaker 9: So I think the Bills. And then I'm looking at this.
I'm just looking at the divisions and.
Speaker 4: I'm going to Commander's Chargers Super.
Speaker 7: Bowl right now.
Speaker 8: I like Commanders, Charger.
Speaker 3: Oh, we don't like the Chargers that beat the Chiefs
that aren't going to make the playoffs, and the Bills.
Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs. The Chiefs are I'll bet you.
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs again, but I mean my ball,
I don't think they win the division.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm. I don't know if it's bold anymore.
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't really I don't feel about Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the n who you say?
Speaker 8: I don't know, like I'm looking at it. I like
the Commanders, but good Josh, Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: If you if you can take home home field homes big,
it's home is huge for them, Like they're one of
those teams they need to be at home. Josh Allen
all jokes aside, like the Chargers doesn't really like no offense.
Speaker 4: I mean we all know they don't have home field advantage.
Speaker 9: I know they played the Giants, but the Commander's defense
looked really good and then Debo looks like he's back
in rear form, so I don't I mean, again, it
was the Giants, so who. I can't really make that
much of a judgment off of it. But I do
like the Commanders. Again, I didn't watch the Packers, so
I don't know, but I don't know. I guess I'll
go Commanders bills. I gotta stick with my guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, did you say that some packers bills.
Speaker 4: All right, let's write those down. That's definitely turnover chain worthy.
If you make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But you have both of you have really good teams.
That's It's all convenient, isn't it.
Speaker 4: They can choose either one of them, and we're going
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Speaker 7: A little bit of a teaser.
Speaker 2: One of them is getting eliminated.
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back here and OTB.
Speaker 3: On this Tuesday morning, we are going to throw it
to Tata and we are going to eliminate some teams.
A little NFL bachelor Tata, who are we getting rid
of as we try to find you a new home
now that the cowboys have left you and you've left
them in the desert.
Speaker 2: Because we did some soul searching last night. And I
have to eliminate the New York Jets. I can't do it.
I understand that Justin Fields had a good game. He's
gotta go. I look for so long, Jerry Jones has
held me hostage. Am I really gonna pull for a team?
Woodie Johnson owns absolutely not. His son was picking players
based on their Madden Radians last offseason, and they made
a joke about it.
Speaker 7: Can't do it.
Speaker 2: I've been a laughing stock as a Dallas Cowboys fan.
I would be in the exact same position as the
New York Jets, and I should have eliminated them yesterday.
So the New York Jets are out. It's a good call,
good pick. The Chicago Bears are eliminated. I cannot get
behind Caleb Williams. Just not my vibe at all. After
last night's game. Going into the fourth quarter, they had
the lead, they blew the lead. I know what it's
like to pull for a team that chokes in big moments.
The Chicago Bears certainly did that last night. So therefore,
Chicago Bears are eliminated. We're also going to eliminate the
Jacksonville Jaguars. I don't know if I could do a
long distance relationship thing, and their owner is just that
right there. Should have eliminated them off the back. But
I don't know if I can do the long distance
relationship thing, and their ownership seems just determined to move
them to London. They played more and more games there
every year. I couldn't do a long since relationship. I've
never done one. There's a lot of unknown right now
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're eliminated as well. The Denver
Broncos gone. As much as I love bow Knicks, I've
been a big bo Nicks defender on this show, I
just can't get behind it, you know, going to somebody
who has hurt people that I'm close with, as Sean
Payton as their head coach. It just feels slimmy to me,
like I wasn't in a relationship with the Saints, but
I know a lot of people who are. I can't
back a Sean Payton led team. I just can't do it.
And the final team eliminated today, the Green Bay pack.
Speaker 4: They look.
Speaker 7: NFL Bachelor.
Speaker 2: I'm as my Super Bowl pick out of the NFC.
They looked great. We're watching Michael Parsons and a package
Jersey hurt me, and for that reason, I can't do it.
They much oh my toxic act. They remind me of
the one who got away, and I can't do it.
I can't jump back of it because they just remind
me too much of the guy that just broke my
heart two weeks ago. So for that reason alone, look,
Packers look great. Jordan Love finally starting to play well.
They looked dominant there on Sunday. I can't do it
because of the Micah Parsons fact. That's for the same
reason you left. Y'all have the same intentions. I get it,
but doing that is just same is following the Mark Michaeh.
Parsons train a little too much for my liking. I
love everything about the Green Bay Packers. I love the
city and everything. I can't do it because of Micah Parsons.
They are eliminated and we now have ten teams left.
Speaker 4: Do you get a ten? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We got Saints, Bucks, Titans, Vikings, Lions, Chargers, forty nine, Ers, Rams, Bengals, Bills.
Speaker 8: Don't do it to yourself and go ahead and eliminate
the Saints. You'd basically be rooting for the Cowboys all
over again.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, Landre, can I interest.
Speaker 4: You in the Packers.
Speaker 9: I'm a Saints fan, but I'm very, very interested in
the Commanders.
Speaker 8: Might have to cheat a little bit like watching.
Speaker 2: I like to eliminate everybody in that division because it's
Cowboys fans hated the whole I couldn't.
Speaker 6: I'd like to say that, like I'm not upset, like
I'm not hurt by this, but like, I'm taking this
a little harder than I thought I would.
Speaker 4: He wore a little green shirt and everything.
Speaker 5: Around.
Speaker 7: I got a green shirt on too.
Speaker 6: I thought that like you and like persons would be
kind of kindred spirits a little bit like we hate Jerry?
Speaker 7: Do you hate Jerry?
Speaker 2: Did I listen to the outside noise a little bit?
Speaker 4: Yes? I did.
Speaker 2: But I've always prided myself on not being a Bandwagon fan,
and that screams it. If I just follow Michael Poisons
to his new team, It's nothing the Packers did. It's
just a personal feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you're the right, all right. I think it's
a great list. I think it's a great list. I
think you're doing out standing. I think it's ten great
franchises to be able to choose from, so well done.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 8: I feel like if you know, you might already know
the direction he's.
Speaker 4: I think I know the team, and like even I
don't want to say it on air state.
Speaker 6: Even for suspense of this of the of this SEGMENTA
Packers need to be top three for the suspense, but
at least take an overnight date with them. We had
a great date Sunday after create the anticipation of the segment.
Speaker 2: Their date Sunday afternoon with me could not have went better.
But when I looked in the mirror and did some
soul searching, and I was like, you know what, it's
just not the right fit for me right now. It
is me, it is not them. I am not ready
to commit to Michael Parsons. Once again, I can't do
it too much.
Speaker 4: Bag.
Speaker 6: You should have spent one night with him overnight. You
gotta see because they play Thursday night before you pick
on Friday.
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm passionate.
Speaker 4: Listen, passionate, listen.
Speaker 3: You're trying the text through it and it's getting worse.
You're trying to text through it.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's right.
Speaker 7: I got the I got like the long message.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's reading it, but she's not writing back
right now.
Speaker 4: It's just good.
Speaker 8: You don't want I'm not reading that essay.
Speaker 7: We don't want you to be an owner.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sorry that happened to you, or a congratu.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't want you to own an NFL franchise.
Speaker 8: Are the Chargers still I know you said, but they're still.
Speaker 4: In there uniforms.
Speaker 8: Chargers are still in the if he picks the Chargers.
We already know who is favor out of Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: I mean I think you already did because you eliminated
the Packers, and the Chargers are still available, and so
are the Saints. So our two teams are still there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you suck today, Thank you? Terrible listen, awful your voice.
You don't even look good when you say it.
Speaker 4: Terrible.
Speaker 2: I love cheese curds.
Speaker 7: I do. It was hard for me. Yeah, yeah, in
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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, you can make fun of whatever you want.
Take back the hair they take. Don't mess with the
de I bet your yard is in shambles as well.
Last week I saw I think someone of the day
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you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't think you did. I think you said it
was regrets. Yep, no regrets. Not even one letter, not
even one single letter. Ask the bitch. How much hazing
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Speaker 8: Taylor used to get bullied by T Bob.
Speaker 4: All right, Ask the bench.
Speaker 3: Have y'all gotten the painfully long text from tea Bob yet?
Speaker 4: What context we're talking about here? I hadn't got a
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Speaker 8: He's a little emotional watching Last week US.
Speaker 4: Now he is.
Speaker 3: He is our competitor. He is they have a morning
show that is in the same time slot as ours.
So we gotta treat T Bob just like we treat
macroyin Cole. That's right, same thing. Yeah, I don't know him.
Ask the bench. Was this Flynn's villain turn moment?
Speaker 4: Yes? This is my hill turn. That's right.
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