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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled my Thorntons on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Holy crap, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell we think we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Get off our show, idiots. The kids are playing or

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<v Speaker 2>turnlot and your countries are screwing it up. Gold Play

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<v Speaker 2>Inner Murals, Brother, Goldplay Inner Murals. They're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Nick Coffee? All right? Good afternoon, and welcome in

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<v Speaker 2>to a Friday edition of Coffee and Company as we

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<v Speaker 2>come to you live from the offices of Alex R.

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<v Speaker 2>White Lawyers, Sue Distracted Driver dot Com, our partners for

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<v Speaker 2>our postgame show this year, which we will have later

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<v Speaker 2>tonight because it is Game Day. A rare game Day

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<v Speaker 2>edition of Coffee and Company here on Sports Talk seven

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<v Speaker 2>ninety So we're with you up until six o'clock. So

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<v Speaker 2>hang out, make yourself at home, get comfortable. As mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>we made it to the end of the week. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday, which is always always a good thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>will apologize for our tardiness today. It's really I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick is filling in radio Rick, who is the man,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hasn't filled in to produce this show, probably

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<v Speaker 2>not since we moved afternoons, which we had a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a format change, so there used to be

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<v Speaker 2>a commercial break that would really start right around three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't had that in a while. But that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't properly communicated to the One and Only Radio Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why we were a little bit delayed. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. It gave me some more time to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get get settled in, get comfortable and enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>great atmosphere here at the offices of Alex Roy Lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>And again it's Friday. We're ready to rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got, as mentioned Radio Rick back at studio,

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<v Speaker 2>the One and Only mister Austin Montgomery. He's with us.

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<v Speaker 2>He's with me here today live for the show. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, John is out the company man, he's not here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope he enjoys his long weekend. But I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of don't want that guy around, Austin, because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean about it. Look, Louisville, they're not in a terrible spot,

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<v Speaker 2>but clearly the season hasn't gone the way that most

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<v Speaker 2>fans would have expected it at this point. Your Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>Vikings get beat last night at a tough loss, straight, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>too straight, in a game that you know they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean, I don't think many were expecting

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<v Speaker 2>them to lose, because obviously they've been a really good

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<v Speaker 2>team this year. And then here we have the Company Man,

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<v Speaker 2>his Hoosiers are doing something that if you woke somebody

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<v Speaker 2>up who'd been in a twenty year coma and told

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<v Speaker 2>them Indiana football is undefeated, top fifteen, ranked ahead of Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't believe you. No, they you'd have they would

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<v Speaker 2>not believe. You could show them evidence and they would

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<v Speaker 2>still say, you're messing with me. There's no way possible.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, in all seriousness, I hope John enjoyces long weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Be in against one college game day and then we

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<v Speaker 4>get we get the company Man taken a long location, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame him. I don't blame him at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild that Indiana is actually in this position.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wish I could tell you that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to like end up really fall and off,

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<v Speaker 2>and they may, but like they're hammering people. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>their schedule has been pretty weak, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're actually I don't think it's I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's sluky. I think they're actually pretty damn good now,

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<v Speaker 2>good enough to win the Big Ten, good enough to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, compete in the College Football Playoff. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they're there, but like with their schedule, given

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done so far and who they have left, like,

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<v Speaker 2>they could easily end up ten and two at worst,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just a crazy thing to say out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's where we are. So again, we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>you up until six o'clock. As mentioned Game Day, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>a rare game day edition of the show, because this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time this year that they've had a

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<v Speaker 2>game on a weeknight. And I think last year at

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<v Speaker 2>least three maybe four, and if it's four, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be half of your conference schedule would have been games

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<v Speaker 2>that were not played on a Saturday, which is really rare.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had the opener last year in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>that was a Friday night game. You had the NC

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<v Speaker 2>State game at their place that was a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>You play Virginia at home late in the year, in

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<v Speaker 2>a game you almost lost, and I feel like there

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<v Speaker 2>was another one, but maybe I was. No, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday night. It was a you know, Saturday night

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<v Speaker 2>at home. I guess it was just three. But still

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<v Speaker 2>three of your twelve games, three of them being league games,

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<v Speaker 2>being on a weeknight was kind of rare. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's some that just don't like football

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<v Speaker 2>games on the college level on any day other than

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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday, and I get it. And still ninety nine percent,

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly of college football games are still played on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've always enjoyed the week night games. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just because of the selfish reasons, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>it does actually give me a chance to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like it. I mean, I hate saying this

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<v Speaker 2>because it makes it seem as if like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy what I do. But I mean is it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's work and I enjoy it. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>is time consuming and a Saturday for fans. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, If you tailgate for a couple hours

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<v Speaker 2>and you go to the game at home, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving up probably six hours of your Saturday. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time. Now again, people do it because they

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<v Speaker 2>love it. But you know, when you throw in postgame

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<v Speaker 2>show and all that kind, it's just a full day.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like to have, you know, situations every now

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<v Speaker 2>and then where we'd have a Thursday or a Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night game to where I can just watch my team

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<v Speaker 2>on a Thursday or a Friday, sometimes in a standalone

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<v Speaker 2>situation right where you're not competing with other games. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if people want to watch football on a Friday or

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<v Speaker 2>a Thursday, they're watching you. And here's to hoping Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>takes advantage of that tonight. But then Saturday you get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to just watch all the games. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to just lock into one specifically. So I am

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to tonight, and I've been saying all week

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't really like there's not a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>to gain and there's a lot to lose. And I

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<v Speaker 2>still believe that is the case for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning you know, a win tonight is really what you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to. Boston College is not a team that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody would say is is good now. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not terrible. They've got a coach in Bill O'Brien who

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<v Speaker 2>I think is probably a little too good for them,

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<v Speaker 2>But the same situation worked out to where he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be in his hometown of Boston. He was looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a gig, and he took the Boston College job.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, they're better off with him than I

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<v Speaker 2>think any other coach that would have been a realistic candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to act like they're you know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're terrible. But again, this is a game that

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<v Speaker 2>is not talked about as like a big coin toss. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that knowing that they could easily play poorly

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<v Speaker 2>and lose tonight. But the teams you've lost to are

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<v Speaker 2>teams that you weren't really expected to be other than SMU.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the different. That's that's the only one of the

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<v Speaker 2>three where they came in and humbled a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 2>myself included, Like, I think Louisville clearly did some things

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<v Speaker 2>on their end to help SMU leave Louisville with a victory,

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<v Speaker 2>But also SMU just gave us that works. Do kids

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<v Speaker 2>stay that still? Is that a thing? Is that a little?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a little old? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>It's modern? Okay, yeah, it's up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt I felt really really like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was no, it's like they're cooking. Now, that's they're cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was reaching a little bit as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as as soon as as soon as I said that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait a second, you just said something trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sound like you're you're somewhat hip and.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you are.

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<v Speaker 4>The vernacular has change a little bit, but that's still

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<v Speaker 4>too much modern.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's not completely outdated yet.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, it's actually yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I think SMU when they made that quarterback change,

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<v Speaker 2>they turned into a different team. They're playing faster and

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<v Speaker 2>it certainly fits them they've been. I mean, their schedule

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<v Speaker 2>sets up to where SMU, like, I think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the team, to be honest with you, that

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<v Speaker 2>ends up and I think they're gonna be the team

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<v Speaker 2>that ends up in Charlotte. I mean, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of football to be played. But anyways, the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>you have beat up to this point, I'm sorry, the

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<v Speaker 2>teams that you've lost to up to this point, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not bad losses. And again it's I don't think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever be a fan base that celebrates a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>losses at the end of the year because we can say, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they were good teams, because Louisville wants to be a

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<v Speaker 2>good team too, and I think they are a good

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<v Speaker 2>team this year. That's what's made it really so frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>for me is that I just think this team should

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<v Speaker 2>be better than their record indicates. But you are who

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<v Speaker 2>your record is, quite literally how you define if you're good, average, bad, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know you don't win, it really didn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot. So tonight it's one of those games

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<v Speaker 2>where you look at Boston College. I think they're probably

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<v Speaker 2>the worst team you've played since Jacksonville State, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know you should win. So again, a win is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to move the needle for anybody. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to change the perception of Louisville football in the grand

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<v Speaker 2>scheme of things, and a loss would shift the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>because this would be a loss that, yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>throw Boston College in there with these other three teams

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<v Speaker 2>that have beat you. And I think the noise that

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard from Louisville fans really over the last really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean really after every loss. It's not as if

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've hit a level of toxicity. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, depressing, but a lot of fans are frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of them. I still think this team could

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<v Speaker 2>finish strong. I think they've got a chance, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they have the capability to beat every team

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<v Speaker 2>left on the schedule. But I'm not ready at this

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<v Speaker 2>point to say that, Like I expect them to do

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<v Speaker 2>that until they play a clean game with minimal mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's asking to be perfect, but just don't make killer

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes in crucial moments in a game that come back

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<v Speaker 2>to bite you. And they've done that pretty consistently this year. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>seven games in, you got to look in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your identity. So again, overall, like maybe even fans

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't think much about a big win tonight, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if Louisville comes out plays clean football, they went about

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<v Speaker 2>three scores, maybe you would say, Okay, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do. I'm still I'm still bothered by the

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<v Speaker 2>losses we had against the likes of SMU Miami and

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. And if that's the way you feel, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>Because let's be real, let's not rewrite the story. Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>had expectations this year and right now, I think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to win out to come close to getting to

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<v Speaker 2>where those expectations were. And I don't even mean the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC Championship game. I just mean finishing with around you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the best case scenario regular season, you get nine wins,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, as of now, it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to say that I expect them to do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>again tonight, what's on the line as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>positives if you win, of course and you play well,

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<v Speaker 2>is this team, like you only play twelve games every

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<v Speaker 2>year as a college football player. College football teams play

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<v Speaker 2>twelve regular season games every year. Not a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of opportunities, to be honest with you, Like, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>hear anybody else talk about it. But you can finish

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<v Speaker 2>a regular season in college football twelve games and really

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<v Speaker 2>not know if you're good or not. Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>play a decent schedule with you know, two three teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are bums, and then I don't know, five teams

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<v Speaker 2>or six teams that are average, and then you play

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<v Speaker 2>three teams that are like really good, better than you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that if you beat them, it's considered

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<v Speaker 2>can finish the season at eight and four and really

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<v Speaker 2>not know like, hey, yeah, we didn't you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>judge if you're good or not. But you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot. I mean, you know, It's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that just always irks me is that like they

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I always want to be able to learn

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<v Speaker 2>about my team. And if you're in a situation to

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<v Speaker 2>where you know you're competitive against the good teams, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't win, you beat the teams you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, it doesn't mean you're a bad team, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess it's more of a of a

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<v Speaker 2>being in denial that like, you know, look in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 2>your team's not terrible, but they're certainly not good. They've

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<v Speaker 2>had opportunities to beat these good teams and they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done it. So that was a long winded way of

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<v Speaker 2>me saying this team, because they've played seven games up

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<v Speaker 2>to this point, they need to put together a clean

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<v Speaker 2>game where they not only win and maybe have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of cushion, but they know they stayed locked in,

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't commit silly penalties that were just senseless. They

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't turn it over at terrible times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they didn't have three guys try to tackle

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<v Speaker 2>one running back and he carry them into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think this is gut check time for them

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<v Speaker 2>against this kind of this kind of an opponent in

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College, to where they need to build some confidence

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<v Speaker 2>and just at least prove to themselves that they can

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I mean, they need to prove it to everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think what will be most important for this

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<v Speaker 2>team is to prove it to themselves that yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>can go out there and avoid mistakes that seem to

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<v Speaker 2>me at times very avoidable. So again, Louisville favored tonight

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<v Speaker 2>seven and a half is the current spread, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have you know, I think Louisvill's a better team. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they should win, but I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have any feel for what to expect tonight. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College, they clearly play is if they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>their Boston College. If that makes sense, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is a direct result of having a guy like

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<v Speaker 2>Bill O'Brien, who again is like, that's one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of had me a little worried about tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not that I'm thinking, oh, we're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get pounded and Louisville doesn't have an

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<v Speaker 2>answer for the players on the Boston College side, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's it at all. But Bill Lebron's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good coach. I mean, it's a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>done it at the college level, he's done it in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, and he's clearly given this Boston College team

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<v Speaker 2>an edge that I don't think they would have if

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<v Speaker 2>it was the guy coaching him last year whose name

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<v Speaker 2>I've already forgot, who bailed to go be a coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. So in a weird way, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big game for everybody involved and I but again,

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<v Speaker 2>not a big game in the grand scheme of things

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<v Speaker 2>as far as like how the college football world will

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<v Speaker 2>start to perceive Louisville or again, there's not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot to gain other than internally with this team, because

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<v Speaker 2>they if you get to your eighth game and you

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<v Speaker 2>are four and four, or let's say you're five and three,

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<v Speaker 2>which they could be after tonight. They're gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>of those two. I mean, if you're four and four,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a tough pill to swallow, but we'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>do exactly that and just face the facts. But a win.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet you're still cutting it too close. I just think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that wouldn't be ideal. When you get to

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson at their place. Pittsburgh, who, by the way, they

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<v Speaker 2>look insanely good. I don't know if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>product of Qus being terrible, but Pittsburgh still unbeaten and

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<v Speaker 2>they played their best game of the season last night

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<v Speaker 2>against Syracuse. So you know, you go to Stanford and

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<v Speaker 2>play and I don't think they're any good. But still,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've played some teams this year that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think are that good and you could have easily lost,

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<v Speaker 2>like Virginia at their place a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, postgame show will start as soon as it ends,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we will have pregame show as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percented by percent about Jefferson Anvil Hospital as well

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<v Speaker 2>as Pellow Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we got a lot to get into today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be joined by a handful of different guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we'll be talking Coming up here on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Larry Ben's of Proria Physical Therapy is set to

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<v Speaker 2>join us. We'll talk to him. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts on Colin Lacey as far as his decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, jeff said he came back early, and id

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<v Speaker 2>be like the timetable did seem like he did return

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<v Speaker 2>a little earlier than what I was expecting. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell do I know? But could that have

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<v Speaker 2>really been a factor in why he decided. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an easy thing to bring up that

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<v Speaker 2>if he's playing and the season's not anywhere near what

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<v Speaker 2>he thought it would be one because he missed three

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<v Speaker 2>games and Louisville's losing games, and if he's not one

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little more understandable than those that just think

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<v Speaker 2>he's quitting so he can salvage another year and go

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<v Speaker 2>make more money. And by the way, if he's doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a smart guy, to be honest with you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just how I feel about it. So we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Larry about that. Also to a tug of Alowa coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember about a month ago, whatever that was,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure everybody acted like one he was dead.

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<v Speaker 2>And also he may never like play again, and now

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<v Speaker 2>here he is. Yeah, so that's I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not going to be wearing the britsack.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this. I mean not to question what

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like wearing that would make me think

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<v Speaker 3>They just look goofy to me. Yeah, sorry, I get

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<v Speaker 3>what the whole thing is. They just look goofy.

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<v Speaker 2>They do look very goofy. There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, doctor Ben's gonna join usming up here. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. We'll talk to Alex Kupper coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at four oh five, and then we will bring in

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only mister Alex R. White, who we

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<v Speaker 2>are hanging out here at his offices today. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>join us around four thirty. Very nice to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a really cool event that he's a part of. And

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<v Speaker 2>with him being an attorney, he has prepared a deposition

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<v Speaker 2>for me. He's gonna ask me deposition questions. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be basically, I'm gonna be. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about legal terms and am I gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>on the stand here if I'm getting deposed? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, again, my legal jargon's not great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's some part of the legal process. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with us for the next two and a half hours roughly.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take you up till six o'clock. Again, we are

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<v Speaker 2>coming you a live from the offices of Alex R.

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<v Speaker 2>White Lawyers. Sue Distracted Driver dot Com. It's Coffee and Company.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel about Thorton's right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety

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<v Speaker 2>it's game day Louisville and Boston College. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>not aware that that that Boston College has had as

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<v Speaker 2>much success against Louisville as they have. And that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's something that is a talking point

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<v Speaker 2>in the college football landscape or even you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC for that matter, But Louisville is not one

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<v Speaker 2>at Boston College since twenty sixteen. That was the year,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the year Lamar Jackson won the Heisman. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when it comes to you know, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to teams that you know, most people just view

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<v Speaker 2>our the weaker of you know, of the pack when

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<v Speaker 2>it was to the ACC. You don't want to lose

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<v Speaker 2>to these kind of teams. Although again, Boston College is

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting team to look at moving forward because I

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<v Speaker 2>do think they have a really good coach, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have nil resources. And as we talked yesterday with

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<v Speaker 2>the beat writer who covers Boston College for the Boston Globe,

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<v Speaker 2>is that phill Brian kind of like lets players know

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<v Speaker 2>that he that he's pursuing that like he doesn't He's

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<v Speaker 2>not He's not real big into nil I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm actually underselling it. Maybe he actually tells them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to talk about nil, then like you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't come here, which is a wild strategy to have

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four. But you know, whatever he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>this year, it's working to an extent to where they've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to be a better, better team than I

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<v Speaker 2>think most would have expected. Uh, Rick, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>Rick? Are you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here? Did did we get did we get a

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<v Speaker 2>call from from doctor Ben's not yet? Still wait? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just let me know whenever he whenever he does call,

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<v Speaker 2>and he should be calling us here in just uh

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. But anyways, again, tonight, we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>pregame coverage starting at six thirty. Postgame show we'll start

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<v Speaker 2>right after and uh, we'll see what what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more anxious for this game than than I probably

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<v Speaker 2>should be. And the reason that I say that, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as you know, I shouldn't be this anxious just

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<v Speaker 2>because it would have been nice to come into this

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<v Speaker 2>game with like a ton of confidence. And I look,

416
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a better team than Boston College.

417
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<v Speaker 2>I think their favorites for obvious reasons and That's really

418
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<v Speaker 2>the root of like a lot of the frustration for

419
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<v Speaker 2>me as a fan is because I still think Louisvell's

420
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<v Speaker 2>got it, Like they got the pieces to be a

421
00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.720
<v Speaker 2>pretty good team. They're not great at every spot, meaning

422
00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.640
<v Speaker 2>like they you know, the offensive line, you know, is

423
00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.880
<v Speaker 2>probably not viewed as anywhere near a strength for this team.

424
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<v Speaker 2>But I think you've got pieces around the offense that

425
00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you can you can scheme to where your offensive line

426
00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.799
<v Speaker 2>is not, you know, exposed so much. Now there's gonna

427
00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:33.599
<v Speaker 2>be certain matchups that's gonna be really tough for them.

428
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I thought they did a pretty good

429
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<v Speaker 2>job against against Miami, who's got a really good defensive front,

430
00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, defensively, I mean, they're kind of just it's

431
00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>just been sort of a mess. I mean, I know

432
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<v Speaker 2>it sounds foolish when I say, hey, the defense has

433
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent, given the fact that you know,

434
00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you watched Miami drag multiple Louisville defenders many more yards

435
00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.319
<v Speaker 2>than they should have gotten on the handful of those

436
00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:57.359
<v Speaker 2>plays and including a couple of them that were really embarrassing,

437
00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure to watch if you're one of those guys

438
00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.519
<v Speaker 2>that tried to arm tie and just got carried for

439
00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:05.079
<v Speaker 2>sometimes seemingly five to seven yards or something like that.

440
00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>So the pieces are there, they just haven't really put

441
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<v Speaker 2>it all together. And that's why tonight, I think is

442
00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:13.200
<v Speaker 2>such a big opportunity for this group to play a

443
00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:15.319
<v Speaker 2>clean football game. And what I mean by that is,

444
00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.200
<v Speaker 2>don't be sloppy, don't make mistakes that seem to be

445
00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:21.279
<v Speaker 2>very avoidable. Now you're going to still get some penalties.

446
00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.000
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna make mistakes. You're not going to be perfect.

447
00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.319
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you get penalties and you know, you go

448
00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:26.559
<v Speaker 2>back and look at it and you feel like you

449
00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:28.680
<v Speaker 2>got host you got a bad call. But then sometimes

450
00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, even if it is a questionable call, you know,

451
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Louisville did something to put themselves in a situation where

452
00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the ref had the opportunity to call it. And I

453
00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>haven't talked a whole lot about officiating. In fact, that

454
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:44.200
<v Speaker 2>is something that a few people here and there over

455
00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks have brought up, like why aren't

456
00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.599
<v Speaker 2>you more critical of the officials. It's not like I'm

457
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<v Speaker 2>telling you that Louisville hasn't had some calls go against

458
00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.799
<v Speaker 2>them this year that clearly had an impact in the

459
00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:58.440
<v Speaker 2>result because you know, like that's true. I believe that.

460
00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I just think that the reason officiating has been talked

461
00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.599
<v Speaker 2>about so much this year for Louisville, other than, of

462
00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>course the obvious bad calls or the reviews where you're wondering,

463
00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.559
<v Speaker 2>what were they watching that we didn't see to make

464
00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that change as far as what they were going to do,

465
00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.440
<v Speaker 2>is because you put yourself in that position that bad call, miscall,

466
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.839
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was late was so crucial because you were

467
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<v Speaker 2>in a spot to where whatever that rep decides good call,

468
00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:26.799
<v Speaker 2>bad call, it's gonna make a huge difference in who

469
00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.319
<v Speaker 2>wins and loses the game. So you know you're you're

470
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.079
<v Speaker 2>making mistakes as a team that make those missed calls

471
00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>way more memorable and way more crucial. You're going to

472
00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:38.880
<v Speaker 2>get calls go against you every every game, and sometimes

473
00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:40.559
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be worse than others, and sometimes there's going

474
00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to be egregious calls that like you wonder, what the

475
00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.400
<v Speaker 2>hell are they are they conspiring against us? Which I've

476
00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:49.240
<v Speaker 2>never once believed that, and I don't think a lot

477
00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of fans truly believe that, you know, the acc or

478
00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>anybody's just out to get them. But at times it's

479
00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:56.319
<v Speaker 2>probably seemed that way just with I mean, the one

480
00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>thing that really set me off Austin was in the

481
00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 2>game against Miami. I think it might have been Jacory

482
00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Brooks or maybe Chris Bell, where he ran to the

483
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 2>sideline and strategically did exactly what you're supposed to do.

484
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>He knew he was close enough to the line, so

485
00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:15.839
<v Speaker 2>he just reached the ball over, yeah, and he got

486
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the first down by like two yards seemingly, and they

487
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't even review it, like, and I don't even know

488
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>how they ended up going to look at it. I

489
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think Jeff burned a time out to make them

490
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<v Speaker 2>go look at it, but like the the announcers themselves

491
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>were even like are they not gonna look at this?

492
00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And we've gotten some questionable spots all year, and that

493
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.759
<v Speaker 2>that one actually set me off to where I'm like, like,

494
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you can't be making this up when it comes to

495
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>how terrible all of these most of these spots have

496
00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:43.680
<v Speaker 2>been for Louisville this year. But other than that, Yeah,

497
00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean the double pass interference call on Colin Lacy,

498
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I've never seen anything like that. That was crazy.

499
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>The yeah, and then the what was the other one?

500
00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 2>The again the fumbles, right.

501
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<v Speaker 4>There were spots different spots expect in the Virginia game,

502
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.279
<v Speaker 4>and they had a remember it was I can't remember

503
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.960
<v Speaker 4>who the running back was. It had it had to

504
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:07.279
<v Speaker 4>have been forward, no, no, no, it had to have

505
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.319
<v Speaker 4>been Isaac Brown. But they they stopped as momentum.

506
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, weird thing.

507
00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they went forward on fourth. Yeah. So look,

508
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I think the officiating has been questionable. In fact, it's

509
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>probably been further than questionable at times this year. But

510
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<v Speaker 2>I think we were noticing it a little bit more

511
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 2>than we usually do because you're in close games against

512
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.039
<v Speaker 2>good teams late and if you know, could it could

513
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>come down to one call that's really just the referee judgment,

514
00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and if it doesn't go your way, it could, it could,

515
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 2>it could have an impact on it. So it's not

516
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that the officiating has been great and not worthy of criticism.

517
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I just think you notice the poor calls that go

518
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.119
<v Speaker 2>against you a lot more frequently whenever you are in

519
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the spot that you've been in games this year where

520
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you know you made some crucial mistakes that make it

521
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>such a close game late. But again, let's hope tonight

522
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 2>they play a clean game. Take care of business. Uh,

523
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and and avoid some of these mistakes that I think

524
00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>have been pretty avoidable. All right, let's bring it in.

525
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<v Speaker 2>And he's doctor Larry Ben's from pro Rea Physical Therapy.

526
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>We certainly appreciate him as always making time for us

527
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 2>here on a beautiful Friday afternoon. How we doing, doctor Ben's.

528
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>We're doing wonderful game day, getting sight right jailgate.

529
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. So I'm I'm assuming you've been to

530
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Boston College Louisville games before up there in Boston, right.

531
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have.

532
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I have.

533
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a great place to go. Obviously, you can get

534
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a good Italian dinners and go up there on the

535
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 1>hill and go to the game. It's not the best

536
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:32.799
<v Speaker 1>stadium in the world, but good atmosphere, great campus, you know,

537
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>great school.

538
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember. So I've gone once and it was

539
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:39.200
<v Speaker 2>only for It was for a basketball game, and they

540
00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>had a big hockey game the next night, so there

541
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was more buzz on campus about that than there was basketball.

542
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 2>In Boston. College hoops wasn't in a great place at

543
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:48.599
<v Speaker 2>the time, but I remember thinking, man, this campus is

544
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 2>absolutely beautiful. But once I got to the arena itself,

545
00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and then the stadium that you mentioned, and of course

546
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't football season. I was I was a little supermitted. Again,

547
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it's not that nice of a stadium, but it is

548
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>a it is a beautiful campus. And what kind of

549
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>turnout do they usually get as far as fans, if there,

550
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends on how good the team is.

551
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not great this year, but I think they're probably

552
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 2>having a better start than they were anticipating. I mean,

553
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine they probably have some light crowds, but

554
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:13.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

555
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, it'll be interesting. You know, it's a Friday night.

556
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a big night for high school football in Massachusetts,

557
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just like it is here in Kentucky. I don't know

558
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 1>what the crowd will be like. You know, I suspect

559
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it will be pretty good. They have, you know, a

560
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>nice history there of renewed spirit with Bill O'Brien as

561
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a coach, and they've been competitive. You can talk about

562
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>how good or bad they are, but they've been absolutely competitive.

563
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And it might be one of the better offenses in

564
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a sense that we face. I mean, certainly Miami, you know,

565
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the got to get in there due but it could

566
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>be another track mate.

567
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they've got an they've got a running quarterback

568
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>who gave us some trouble last year, and obviously that's

569
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>been something that's that's been an issue for the Cards

570
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.799
<v Speaker 2>so far this season. But Bill O'Brien, man, he's he's

571
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody that I think is a little bit above the

572
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 2>job that he has, but obviously he's from the Boston

573
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 2>area and he wanted to get back into the college game.

574
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 2>And uh, these I mean, I know, Florida State has

575
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 2>not looked good at all this year. I mean, they've

576
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 2>really been probably the most disappointing team in the country.

577
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>But that didn't take away how impressive Boston College was

578
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 2>in Week two. You know, Florida State didn't know they

579
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>were that bad at that point, and Boston College just

580
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>completely bullied them. So yeah, they've had a couple of

581
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>losses back to back, but yeah, I mean there's I

582
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 2>think I think the Cards are a better team. I

583
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>expect them to win, but I also know that Boston

584
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 2>College certainly isn't gonna roll over because as you mentioned,

585
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 2>they've been they've they've been competitive this year. One guy

586
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that will be with the Louis will be will be

587
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 2>without is Colin Lacy, who has decided to shut it

588
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>down for the season. Jeff said something last week. I

589
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>think it might have been before the Miami game that

590
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>that Colin had had come back early. Do you think

591
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 2>that that is that more so just because maybe they

592
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 2>had a different timetable. They were expecting them to maybe

593
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>need a little bit more time to get healthy. And

594
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>then sure enough, working with the trainers, working with the

595
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>medical staf, he got the green light and he was

596
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 2>able to go. Because with him with his decision, there

597
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>are some folks wondering, and it's really not our business,

598
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>but folks wondering, maybe did he reaggravate it? Was he

599
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>not fully at one hundred percent? And I know that's

600
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>tough for anybody to know other than him and the

601
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>medical professionals that work closely with him. But I guess

602
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>overall that injury, that surgery that he had for him

603
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>to return when he did against Notre Dame, would you

604
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>view that as a little early? Right on? Tom maybe

605
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 2>you know in the middle.

606
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very hard to tell. I mean, he had

607
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple effective possessions in that game. It's difficult. I

608
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>think the thing that fans are having a hard time

609
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>with including myself, is that athletes. Now, student athletes have

610
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>way more options. I mean, the scales have tipped, you know,

611
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>arguably more in favor of student athletes than schools or

612
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the athletic departments. I don't mean that in a negative sense,

613
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 1>because I absolutely believe in NIL and I absolutely believe

614
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in revshare. But now you've got unlimited transfers. You have

615
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>this a bill to play four games yet keep you know,

616
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>an extra year, which is thankfully some of that's true

617
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 1>because we got a quarterback who's outstanding, who's played for

618
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>what the last ten years. Yeah, and so you have

619
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>this sort of phenomenon, and I think it's hard for

620
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>us to accept, but I could assure you that he

621
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>made an informed decision in conjunction with his advisor, with

622
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 1>his parents. I don't know his personal situation that well,

623
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<v Speaker 1>with the coaches who he deeply respects. He's a transfer

624
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<v Speaker 1>for us, and you know, let's hope for the best.

625
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's hope that he gets healthy and does stick around

626
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and play for us next year. You never know, because

627
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>we're just not used to these student athletes having unlimited

628
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 1>options like they do now.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're certainly adjusting to this new world, and it's

630
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>still relatively new in the grand scheme of things, considering

631
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.079
<v Speaker 2>for generations. You know, the NCAA rules as far as

632
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>amateurism was exactly the same. And now you know, there's

633
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a reason people keep bringing up the wild Wild West.

634
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>But we've benefited from it as well. You know, you

635
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Tyler Schuck. I mean, I'll take an eleventh year

636
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>if we can get it. Larry. I think he's been

637
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 2>he's been sensational, and he's a guy that has dealt

638
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of injuries, and you know, I don't

639
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not sure if anybody believes in Jinx's

640
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and then a knock on wood here, because you know,

641
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly healthy and he's playing some really, really good football.

642
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I feel like in the world of

643
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<v Speaker 2>those who work with rehabbing athletes who have gone through

644
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<v Speaker 2>not just one, not just two, but three pretty significant

645
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>injuries that have caused you to miss a lot of

646
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>time in your career, like this is probably a pretty

647
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>good story in that field for a guy that you know,

648
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>he's he's gone through it many times, he's gone through

649
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, recovering from different injuries, and now here he

650
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>is you know, I would imagine that when he went

651
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>down at Texas Tech. There's probably a lot of folks,

652
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>even folks close to him, Larry that thought, you know what,

653
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe it just wasn't meant to be. He just can't

654
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>stay healthy. And now he's playing the best football of

655
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>his life. And clearly it's a product of him trusting

656
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 2>in the rehab process.

657
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, he has had something incredible injuries, so he's come

658
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>back from big kid, strong kid. What most impressive is,

659
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously his maturity. Notwithstanding, I think the other

660
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>impressive thing about him is the scheme that coach Brohm

661
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 1>and they've developed around him. He's not the most mobile

662
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterback yet he has a little bit of elusiveness at times,

663
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>but the plays and the others. I know fans sometimes

664
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>get upset at certain play calls and things, but you

665
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 1>have to develop a scheme around your quarterback. And it's

666
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the reason why Tom Brady was able to play as

667
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>many years as he did. He had a coaching staff

668
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and a group that was willing to, you know, augment

669
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>his strengths and put him in his sweet spot. And

670
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, Jeff and Brian brom have done

671
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous job of coaching him up. You know, look,

672
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he played completely different offenses at Texas Tech and the

673
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>West Coast and you know now back at Louisville. So

674
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a credit all the way around.

675
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 3>But he's sure has been fun to watch.

676
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't appreciate those saxophones and a lot

677
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 1>that would get these those things like awfully painful. But

678
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>he's he's made the passes when he's needed to. We've

679
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>had some bad luck, We've had some really tough calls

680
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>that arguably a process potentially some games, and yet here

681
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 1>we are have a chance to you know, make a

682
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>little run here, have a good showing to night Weeds.

683
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yet I had had a game where we've put it

684
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>all together. I think we'll see that tonight. I'm very optimistic.

685
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, I trust I

686
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 1>trust the jockey, and I trust our horses, and I

687
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna We're gonna have a great win.

688
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, you know, with with with some of

689
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the calls, and it's not just Louisville. I've noticed it

690
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in a few other games this year. In fact, they're

691
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>both acc games the ones that come to mind, but

692
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I thought it was you. You go and

693
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you review it, and even if you're not quite sure,

694
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 2>that means you have to stick with the call that

695
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>was made, and that has worked against Louisville and worked

696
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 2>against Virginia Tech when they I mean, I think in

697
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>the end they probably got that call right in that

698
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>game as far as the Miami and Virginia Tech finished,

699
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 2>but I think they didn't have any evidence to correct

700
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>their call. So look, some people just say, hey, if

701
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you get it right, you get it right. But if

702
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you're if you're on the other end and you know that,

703
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you know you could benefit from the refs getting around

704
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 2>the first time, you'll certainly take it. But and you

705
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 2>may not know this, Larry, but what we see on TV,

706
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I've always just assumed that that that's the same exact angles,

707
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 2>in the same exact footage that they're reviewing the referees.

708
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 2>But is that the case? And if you don't know,

709
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm apologize for putting you on the spot. But there

710
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>have been a handful where you're thinking, Okay, what did

711
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>they see that we didn't?

712
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in college, I don't know the answer to that question.

713
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>The NFL, I do they have way more angles that

714
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>they look at in the NFL because I'm saying that

715
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>a more resources and more it and more film. But

716
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not one hundred percent sharing college. I don't understand though.

717
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You know this whole concept behind, you know, irrefutable or air.

718
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't dispute this evidence, and then they

719
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>turn around a call that completely looked, you know, questionable.

720
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>So we've just been on the other side of those.

721
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that'll turn a little bit here. I don't know

722
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 1>if you watched the NFL game last night, but that

723
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>could have been one of the worst calls I've seen

724
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a non calls insight or season.

725
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, and that and that's one of those that

726
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>referees I think most of them know, and and those

727
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>who want a referee press conference after the game, I

728
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.519
<v Speaker 2>think you'd be pretty underwhelmed because I think these guys

729
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>would tell you that they do make mistakes and they

730
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 2>get some stuff wrong. But for that one in a

731
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>standalone game on Thursday night, a late a late missed

732
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>call there, I mean, that's a tough tough look for

733
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>NFL officials, no doubt. But doctor Larry Ben's is our

734
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>guest joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety a

735
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>game day edition of Coffee and Company. As the Cards

736
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 2>are set to take on Boston College this evening. I

737
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you about Tuatuga below us. So he's

738
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 2>returning to action after suffering another concussion a little earlier

739
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>this year. He has cleared what is the NFL's you know,

740
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 2>the timeline he had to set out for the for

741
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the concussion that he suffered. He chose not to wear

742
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>one of those one of those caps. I think I

743
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>can't think of the name of what they're called. Maybe

744
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>is a guardian cap. Maybe that that they're wearing over

745
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>top of the helmets too. You know, I guess potential

746
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 2>to protect you if you do have another head injury.

747
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that there would potentially be a situation

748
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>where they may force players to win that if they've

749
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>had so many concussions. I know remember years ago when

750
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Siva and Elijah Justice they'd had so many concussions,

751
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>which is rare for basketball, that they were required I

752
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 2>believe to wear those helmets in practice because of the injuries.

753
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, Tua wants to not wear it, it's

754
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>certainly his choice, But would you think we could ever

755
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>see something to where they would let people know, hey, look,

756
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>if you want to keep playing in this league, we

757
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>want to keep you safe, We're going to advise you

758
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>wear that.

759
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good question. I can give you a

760
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>couple examples over the years. When I was an athletic

761
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>trainer in college, the knee braces that offensive linemen or

762
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>were effectively optional. We had them available, they were for prevention,

763
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 1>you know reasons, and very few were them. Then the

764
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 1>mandates started to happen and the research started to come

765
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>out that said, you know, these things really do prevent

766
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>knee injuries for offensive linemen, and so effectively everybody wears

767
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that that same thing could happen on concussions. Nobody has

768
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>put more money into concussions in the NFL. They have

769
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 1>had the most to risk, They had the largest financial settlement.

770
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>They are the only professional franchise that I'm aware of

771
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that has a protocol, a very defying concussion protocol to

772
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>specifically didn't help himself a few you know, earlier in

773
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the week when he said I would die playing football

774
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 1>or something to that effect, because it caused a lot

775
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of people to say, well, maybe he's signed waivers that

776
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's willing to take on the risk. Well, no,

777
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work that way. Remember, these guys are employees.

778
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>They aired their employment agreements under contracts, and they have

779
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a protocol. It doesn't matter what he says. If he

780
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get through the approval of that protocol, which is

781
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 1>in theory and independent you know physician, typically a neurologist

782
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>or as you know, head injury specialist, he's not going

783
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to get to play. I personally think at some point

784
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got to call it quits if you've had too

785
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 1>many repetitive concussions. We have seen athletes and we won't

786
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 1>necessarily name them, that obviously got their bell rang too

787
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 1>many times back in the day when they didn't monitor it.

788
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm all about safety. I believe that you can

789
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 1>have too many concussions and you have to think long tail,

790
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 1>long term. So I'm not crazy about him playing, but

791
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I respect the decision, and I respect more so in

792
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the NFL for having very very you know, effective you

793
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 1>know prevention and medical intervention for such a really damaging

794
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>injury like a concussion.

795
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the NFL being so invested in in concussion

796
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>research and whatnot, and I think that you know, it's

797
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>what they should do as far as really being worried

798
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>about and really prioritizing always looking out to be on

799
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>top of it when it comes to player safety. Rather

800
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that is learning about new things. So I guess what

801
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking. I feel like it's safe to say that

802
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>it would be tough to really criticize the NFL as

803
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>if they don't care about keeping players safe. I mean,

804
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>in fact, I think some of the criticism from NFL

805
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 2>fans is that they're they're too soft now, and I

806
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 2>think that speaks to that they you know, they understand

807
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a violent sport. There's always going to be injuries.

808
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>There's certainly a lot of risks. But I feel like

809
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't get enough credit for making sure that

810
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>they're all ways continuously making sure they're learning whatever they

811
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 2>can to keep these guys as safe as possible.

812
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely. I mean, remember they've had REVS share for

813
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 1>a long time. They've had a very progressive pension system,

814
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, depending on how many years could be as

815
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 1>low as what five and a half. Now, there's been strikes,

816
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>usually the players have won those strikes, so they've acquiesced

817
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the concussion management. They had a large financial settlement on

818
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>this year alone, we're watching a very goofy kickoff and

819
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kickoff return in part because of the data around the

820
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>injuries there. So I think they've been very, very progressive.

821
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I would not call them soft. I think you use

822
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 1>If you're not going to use evidence in data to

823
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 1>drive decisions and change the game, then why do it?

824
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<v Speaker 2>Well said? All right, last question for you. I'm a

825
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Pacers fan and the opener one of the new members

826
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>of the roster, James Wiseman. He suffered a torn left

827
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 2>achilles which is probably going to put him out for

828
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. I saw somebody speculating earlier

829
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>this was just probably just nonsense on social media. But

830
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<v Speaker 2>with certain injuries over the years, you know there's now

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can recover much quicker from certain injuries

832
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<v Speaker 2>than you could ten twenty years ago. The NBA is

833
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a long season, Like there's no scenario that he would

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<v Speaker 2>be able to like return and play this year, right,

835
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<v Speaker 2>like if they made the playoffs and made like the

836
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<v Speaker 2>second round, which is unlikely form my Pacers. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just I saw that eno thought I'm

838
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<v Speaker 2>gonna ask doctor Vin's that question because I feel like

839
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a reach there that he could he could make

840
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>a return from that kind of an injury, even if

841
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it did occur in the first game of the season

842
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in late October.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if he had a complete tear, and typically in

844
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 1>basketball you do. You can go to Reddit look up

845
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>all the great basketball players that have had complete achilles tear,

846
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and he will come back next year. I think some

847
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>people are spoiled a little bit because last year Aaron Rodgers,

848
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<v Speaker 1>in an absolutely almost irresponsible way, claimed he was going

849
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, playing by the middle or end

850
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of season and having some advanced procedure. Well, the reality

851
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.280
<v Speaker 1>is you can't. You know, you can't overcome other nature.

852
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I watched my Cleveland Browns literally with Deshaun Watson, and

853
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they had a great camera angle as it was happening

854
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>on his torn achilles. As soon as it happened, I

855
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>texted my grid folks, all who are big time Browns

856
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>fans from around the country. I said achilles because it

857
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>was so obvious. But those are tough injuries. I can't

858
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>imagine a hoops player coming back in one season, especially.

859
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean a guy that is seven foot tall. I

860
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>mean you would want to be is I mean you

861
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 2>want to be as safe as possible with everybody. But yeah,

862
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I again, I'm certainly not a professional when it comes

863
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to injuries and tom loins and whatnot. But I felt

864
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like that was a little foolish to put out there.

865
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<v Speaker 2>But hey, it's the Internet. You look hard enough, you'll

866
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<v Speaker 2>find a lot of foolish stuff on there. But doctor Ben's,

867
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>we always appreciate you making time for us, especially on

868
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 2>a game day. And let's hope the Cards can can

869
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>get the win tonight.

870
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely have a good one.

871
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's go Cars, Go Cards. That is doctor Larry Ben's

872
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>a pro reap physical therapy, good conversation with him, good stuff.

873
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>And because of the commercial breaks that we had in

874
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<v Speaker 2>place Certaly, we actually were able to have a long

875
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 2>segment there. So what we're gonna do here? And I'm

876
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of thinking out loud here, folks. You guys have

877
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>heard me talk about it more than I I mean,

878
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I should never talk about it because it shouldn't be

879
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>an issue. But I'm really bad at clock management. Think

880
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of the worst coach that you've ever watched when it

881
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>comes to football, basketball and you just think, yeah, this

882
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>guy stinks when it comes to clock management. I'm worse

883
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 2>than that when it comes to managing the clock of

884
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 2>this show. Like Mark Sooops gets criticized for a lot

885
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 2>of things, especially lately, but I feel like clock management

886
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>is something that Kentucky fans have consistently said he's really

887
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>bad at. I'm worse than that when it comes to

888
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 2>managing the clock and making sure we have balanced segments

889
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to where you know, we don't have one segment that's

890
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 2>extremely long and then one that's pretty shorter than one

891
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that's extremely short at the end. Like I want to

892
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>avoid that, but I just if I could fix it out,

893
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I already would, But now I'm kind of thinking, like

894
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe we burn that first break at the beginning of

895
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the show like Rick did, and that way I can

896
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.199
<v Speaker 2>spread it out a little bit more. Like I don't know,

897
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.559
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't by design, but maybe Rick, of all people,

898
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the legendary radio Rick Ryder, he might have given me

899
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>an idea that could help solve this problem that I

900
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>have with poor clock management. So Rick, I mean, I

901
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>think I'm gonna start rolling with this, not today, but

902
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>moving forward. So thank you, I mean, not only thank

903
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you for doing a great job every time we work together,

904
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 2>but I think this is this is the way to

905
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 2>go about it, and I will I know, I owe

906
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Alle the credit to you, my man.

907
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm giving you pearls here and Nick.

908
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh man Rick is the best, no doubt about it.

909
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break.

910
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back here. We got two more hours to go.

911
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk to Alex Kupper coming up here

912
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>in about ten minutes, former Louisville cardinal. We'll get his

913
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this matchup tonight. And you know, playing clean football,

914
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>putting it all together, avoiding sloppy play. Those are things

915
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>that you've heard me mention a lot of Louisville fans

916
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>mentioned throughout this season. I mean, if there was an

917
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>easy fix to just you know, hey, let's let let's

918
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 2>let's implement this and we won't make these same silly mistakes.

919
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>If it was easy, you know, you wouldn't have teams

920
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that do what Louisvill's doing this year. But from a

921
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>player's perspective, maybe Cup can give us, in fact, maybe

922
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>give this team some advice on how to clean some

923
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>things up. So we'll talk to Cup here coming up

924
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 2>here at about four ten four or five ish. And

925
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<v Speaker 2>then also we'll bring in the one and only Alex R. White,

926
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>who's here. We're live at his office today for the show.

927
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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate them hosting us in this beautiful office. But

928
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>he's going to join us to talk about a early

929
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>special event that he's a part of. He'll come on

930
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 2>at four thirty, and he's also he's also going to

931
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>depose me, which I'm kind of nervous about, but hopefully,

932
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I hopefully I'm able to, you know, survive. Should be

933
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 2>fun though, in all seriousness, and we're gonna have fun

934
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the next couple of hours, So don't go anywhere. It's

935
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<v Speaker 2>coffee and company fuel. Beth Orton's here on a Friday

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<v Speaker 2>game day on Sports Talk seven ninety