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Speaker 2: our postgame show this year, which we will have later
Speaker 2: tonight because it is Game Day. A rare game Day
Speaker 2: edition of Coffee and Company here on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 2: ninety So we're with you up until six o'clock. So
Speaker 2: hang out, make yourself at home, get comfortable. As mentioned,
Speaker 2: we made it to the end of the week. It's
Speaker 2: a Friday, which is always always a good thing. I
Speaker 2: will apologize for our tardiness today. It's really I mean,
Speaker 2: Rick is filling in radio Rick, who is the man,
Speaker 2: and he hasn't filled in to produce this show, probably
Speaker 2: not since we moved afternoons, which we had a little
Speaker 2: bit of a format change, so there used to be
Speaker 2: a commercial break that would really start right around three o'clock.
Speaker 2: We haven't had that in a while. But that wasn't
Speaker 2: that wasn't properly communicated to the One and Only Radio Rick.
Speaker 2: So that's why we were a little bit delayed. But
Speaker 2: it's okay. It gave me some more time to kind
Speaker 2: of get get settled in, get comfortable and enjoy the
Speaker 2: great atmosphere here at the offices of Alex Roy Lawyers.
Speaker 2: And again it's Friday. We're ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 2: So we've got, as mentioned Radio Rick back at studio,
Speaker 2: the One and Only mister Austin Montgomery. He's with us.
Speaker 2: He's with me here today live for the show. And
Speaker 2: you know, John is out the company man, he's not here,
Speaker 2: and I hope he enjoys his long weekend. But I
Speaker 2: kind of don't want that guy around, Austin, because I
Speaker 2: mean about it. Look, Louisville, they're not in a terrible spot,
Speaker 2: but clearly the season hasn't gone the way that most
Speaker 2: fans would have expected it at this point. Your Minnesota
Speaker 2: Vikings get beat last night at a tough loss, straight, yeah,
Speaker 2: too straight, in a game that you know they didn't
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I don't think many were expecting
Speaker 2: them to lose, because obviously they've been a really good
Speaker 2: team this year. And then here we have the Company Man,
Speaker 2: his Hoosiers are doing something that if you woke somebody
Speaker 2: up who'd been in a twenty year coma and told
Speaker 2: them Indiana football is undefeated, top fifteen, ranked ahead of Alabama,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't believe you. No, they you'd have they would
Speaker 2: not believe. You could show them evidence and they would
Speaker 2: still say, you're messing with me. There's no way possible.
Speaker 2: So again, in all seriousness, I hope John enjoyces long weekend,
Speaker 2: but you know, I've.
Speaker 4: Be in against one college game day and then we
Speaker 4: get we get the company Man taken a long location, and.
Speaker 2: I don't blame him. I don't blame him at all.
Speaker 2: It is wild that Indiana is actually in this position.
Speaker 2: And I wish I could tell you that I think
Speaker 2: that they're going to like end up really fall and off,
Speaker 2: and they may, but like they're hammering people. And yes,
Speaker 2: their schedule has been pretty weak, but I mean, I
Speaker 2: think they're actually I don't think it's I don't think
Speaker 2: it's sluky. I think they're actually pretty damn good now,
Speaker 2: good enough to win the Big Ten, good enough to,
Speaker 2: you know, compete in the College Football Playoff. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're there, but like with their schedule, given
Speaker 2: what they've done so far and who they have left, like,
Speaker 2: they could easily end up ten and two at worst,
Speaker 2: which was just a crazy thing to say out loud,
Speaker 2: But that's that's where we are. So again, we're taking
Speaker 2: you up until six o'clock. As mentioned Game Day, I said,
Speaker 2: a rare game day edition of the show, because this
Speaker 2: is the first time this year that they've had a
Speaker 2: game on a weeknight. And I think last year at
Speaker 2: least three maybe four, and if it's four, that would
Speaker 2: be half of your conference schedule would have been games
Speaker 2: that were not played on a Saturday, which is really rare.
Speaker 2: I mean, you had the opener last year in Atlanta
Speaker 2: that was a Friday night game. You had the NC
Speaker 2: State game at their place that was a Friday night.
Speaker 2: You play Virginia at home late in the year, in
Speaker 2: a game you almost lost, and I feel like there
Speaker 2: was another one, but maybe I was. No, that was
Speaker 2: a Saturday night. It was a you know, Saturday night
Speaker 2: at home. I guess it was just three. But still
Speaker 2: three of your twelve games, three of them being league games,
Speaker 2: being on a weeknight was kind of rare. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that there's some that just don't like football
Speaker 2: games on the college level on any day other than
Speaker 2: a Saturday, and I get it. And still ninety nine percent,
Speaker 2: seemingly of college football games are still played on a Saturday.
Speaker 2: But I've always enjoyed the week night games. And it's
Speaker 2: not just because of the selfish reasons, which is that
Speaker 2: it does actually give me a chance to you know,
Speaker 2: it's almost like it. I mean, I hate saying this
Speaker 2: because it makes it seem as if like I don't
Speaker 2: enjoy what I do. But I mean is it is.
Speaker 2: It's work and I enjoy it. But you know, it
Speaker 2: is time consuming and a Saturday for fans. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about it, If you tailgate for a couple hours
Speaker 2: and you go to the game at home, like you're
Speaker 2: giving up probably six hours of your Saturday. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of time. Now again, people do it because they
Speaker 2: love it. But you know, when you throw in postgame
Speaker 2: show and all that kind, it's just a full day.
Speaker 2: So I like to have, you know, situations every now
Speaker 2: and then where we'd have a Thursday or a Friday
Speaker 2: night game to where I can just watch my team
Speaker 2: on a Thursday or a Friday, sometimes in a standalone
Speaker 2: situation right where you're not competing with other games. Like
Speaker 2: if people want to watch football on a Friday or
Speaker 2: a Thursday, they're watching you. And here's to hoping Louisville
Speaker 2: takes advantage of that tonight. But then Saturday you get
Speaker 2: a chance to just watch all the games. You don't
Speaker 2: have to just lock into one specifically. So I am
Speaker 2: looking forward to tonight, and I've been saying all week
Speaker 2: that I don't really like there's not a whole lot
Speaker 2: to gain and there's a lot to lose. And I
Speaker 2: still believe that is the case for the most part,
Speaker 2: meaning you know, a win tonight is really what you're
Speaker 2: supposed to. Boston College is not a team that I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would say is is good now. They're
Speaker 2: not terrible. They've got a coach in Bill O'Brien who
Speaker 2: I think is probably a little too good for them,
Speaker 2: But the same situation worked out to where he wanted
Speaker 2: to be in his hometown of Boston. He was looking
Speaker 2: for a gig, and he took the Boston College job.
Speaker 2: So you know, they're better off with him than I
Speaker 2: think any other coach that would have been a realistic candidate.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to act like they're you know
Speaker 2: that they're terrible. But again, this is a game that
Speaker 2: is not talked about as like a big coin toss. Now.
Speaker 2: I say that knowing that they could easily play poorly
Speaker 2: and lose tonight. But the teams you've lost to are
Speaker 2: teams that you weren't really expected to be other than SMU.
Speaker 2: That's the different. That's that's the only one of the
Speaker 2: three where they came in and humbled a lot of us,
Speaker 2: myself included, Like, I think Louisville clearly did some things
Speaker 2: on their end to help SMU leave Louisville with a victory,
Speaker 2: But also SMU just gave us that works. Do kids
Speaker 2: stay that still? Is that a thing? Is that a little?
Speaker 2: Is that a little old? Now?
Speaker 3: It's modern? Okay, yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 2: I felt I felt really really like I.
Speaker 3: Was no, it's like they're cooking. Now, that's they're cooking.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was reaching a little bit as
Speaker 2: soon as as soon as as soon as I said that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, you just said something trying
Speaker 2: to sound like you're you're somewhat hip and.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you are.
Speaker 4: The vernacular has change a little bit, but that's still
Speaker 4: too much modern.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not completely outdated yet.
Speaker 3: No no, no, it's actually yes.
Speaker 2: And look, I think SMU when they made that quarterback change,
Speaker 2: they turned into a different team. They're playing faster and
Speaker 2: it certainly fits them they've been. I mean, their schedule
Speaker 2: sets up to where SMU, like, I think they're going
Speaker 2: to be the team, to be honest with you, that
Speaker 2: ends up and I think they're gonna be the team
Speaker 2: that ends up in Charlotte. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of football to be played. But anyways, the teams that
Speaker 2: you have beat up to this point, I'm sorry, the
Speaker 2: teams that you've lost to up to this point, they're
Speaker 2: not bad losses. And again it's I don't think we'll
Speaker 2: ever be a fan base that celebrates a handful of
Speaker 2: losses at the end of the year because we can say, well, hey,
Speaker 2: they were good teams, because Louisville wants to be a
Speaker 2: good team too, and I think they are a good
Speaker 2: team this year. That's what's made it really so frustrating
Speaker 2: for me is that I just think this team should
Speaker 2: be better than their record indicates. But you are who
Speaker 2: your record is, quite literally how you define if you're good, average, bad, whatever.
Speaker 2: So you know you don't win, it really didn't mean
Speaker 2: a whole lot. So tonight it's one of those games
Speaker 2: where you look at Boston College. I think they're probably
Speaker 2: the worst team you've played since Jacksonville State, and you
Speaker 2: know you should win. So again, a win is not
Speaker 2: going to move the needle for anybody. It's not going
Speaker 2: to change the perception of Louisville football in the grand
Speaker 2: scheme of things, and a loss would shift the conversation
Speaker 2: because this would be a loss that, yeah, you can't
Speaker 2: throw Boston College in there with these other three teams
Speaker 2: that have beat you. And I think the noise that
Speaker 2: you've heard from Louisville fans really over the last really,
Speaker 2: I mean really after every loss. It's not as if
Speaker 2: I think we've hit a level of toxicity. That's just
Speaker 2: you know, depressing, but a lot of fans are frustrated.
Speaker 2: I'm one of them. I still think this team could
Speaker 2: finish strong. I think they've got a chance, you know,
Speaker 2: I think they have the capability to beat every team
Speaker 2: left on the schedule. But I'm not ready at this
Speaker 2: point to say that, Like I expect them to do
Speaker 2: that until they play a clean game with minimal mistakes.
Speaker 2: Nobody's asking to be perfect, but just don't make killer
Speaker 2: mistakes in crucial moments in a game that come back
Speaker 2: to bite you. And they've done that pretty consistently this year. Therefore,
Speaker 2: seven games in, you got to look in the mirror.
Speaker 2: That's your identity. So again, overall, like maybe even fans
Speaker 2: wouldn't think much about a big win tonight, Like maybe
Speaker 2: if Louisville comes out plays clean football, they went about
Speaker 2: three scores, maybe you would say, Okay, that's what we're
Speaker 2: supposed to do. I'm still I'm still bothered by the
Speaker 2: losses we had against the likes of SMU Miami and
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And if that's the way you feel, fair enough,
Speaker 2: Because let's be real, let's not rewrite the story. Louisville
Speaker 2: had expectations this year and right now, I think you'd
Speaker 2: have to win out to come close to getting to
Speaker 2: where those expectations were. And I don't even mean the
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game. I just mean finishing with around you know,
Speaker 2: the best case scenario regular season, you get nine wins,
Speaker 2: and you know, as of now, it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to say that I expect them to do that. So
Speaker 2: again tonight, what's on the line as far as the
Speaker 2: positives if you win, of course and you play well,
Speaker 2: is this team, like you only play twelve games every
Speaker 2: year as a college football player. College football teams play
Speaker 2: twelve regular season games every year. Not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of opportunities, to be honest with you, Like, that's why
Speaker 2: I mentioned this every now and then because I never
Speaker 2: hear anybody else talk about it. But you can finish
Speaker 2: a regular season in college football twelve games and really
Speaker 2: not know if you're good or not. Like if you
Speaker 2: play a decent schedule with you know, two three teams
Speaker 2: that are bums, and then I don't know, five teams
Speaker 2: or six teams that are average, and then you play
Speaker 2: three teams that are like really good, better than you,
Speaker 2: and you know that if you beat them, it's considered
Speaker 2: an upset, Like if you just beat who you're supposed
Speaker 2: to beat and you lose to the good teams, you
Speaker 2: can finish the season at eight and four and really
Speaker 2: not know like, hey, yeah, we didn't you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess again you'red is quite literally how you can
Speaker 2: judge if you're good or not. But you know, there's
Speaker 2: not a whole lot. I mean, you know, It's one
Speaker 2: thing that just always irks me is that like they
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not asking them to play more games,
Speaker 2: but like, I always want to be able to learn
Speaker 2: about my team. And if you're in a situation to
Speaker 2: where you know you're competitive against the good teams, but
Speaker 2: you don't win, you beat the teams you're supposed to
Speaker 2: be like, it doesn't mean you're a bad team, but like,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess it's more of a of a
Speaker 2: being in denial that like, you know, look in the mirror,
Speaker 2: your team's not terrible, but they're certainly not good. They've
Speaker 2: had opportunities to beat these good teams and they haven't
Speaker 2: done it. So that was a long winded way of
Speaker 2: me saying this team, because they've played seven games up
Speaker 2: to this point, they need to put together a clean
Speaker 2: game where they not only win and maybe have a
Speaker 2: little bit of cushion, but they know they stayed locked in,
Speaker 2: They didn't commit silly penalties that were just senseless. They
Speaker 2: you know, they didn't turn it over at terrible times.
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't have three guys try to tackle
Speaker 2: one running back and he carry them into the end zone.
Speaker 2: Like I think this is gut check time for them
Speaker 2: against this kind of this kind of an opponent in
Speaker 2: Boston College, to where they need to build some confidence
Speaker 2: and just at least prove to themselves that they can
Speaker 2: do that. I mean, they need to prove it to everybody,
Speaker 2: but I think what will be most important for this
Speaker 2: team is to prove it to themselves that yeah, we
Speaker 2: can go out there and avoid mistakes that seem to
Speaker 2: me at times very avoidable. So again, Louisville favored tonight
Speaker 2: seven and a half is the current spread, and I
Speaker 2: don't really have you know, I think Louisvill's a better team. Therefore,
Speaker 2: I think that they should win, but I don't really
Speaker 2: have any feel for what to expect tonight. You know,
Speaker 2: Boston College, they clearly play is if they don't know
Speaker 2: their Boston College. If that makes sense, and I think
Speaker 2: that is a direct result of having a guy like
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, who again is like, that's one thing that
Speaker 2: is kind of had me a little worried about tonight.
Speaker 2: And it's not that I'm thinking, oh, we're you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to get pounded and Louisville doesn't have an
Speaker 2: answer for the players on the Boston College side, because
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it at all. But Bill Lebron's
Speaker 2: a really good coach. I mean, it's a guy who's
Speaker 2: done it at the college level, he's done it in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he's clearly given this Boston College team
Speaker 2: an edge that I don't think they would have if
Speaker 2: it was the guy coaching him last year whose name
Speaker 2: I've already forgot, who bailed to go be a coordinator
Speaker 2: in the NFL. So in a weird way, it's kind
Speaker 2: of a big game for everybody involved and I but again,
Speaker 2: not a big game in the grand scheme of things
Speaker 2: as far as like how the college football world will
Speaker 2: start to perceive Louisville or again, there's not a whole
Speaker 2: lot to gain other than internally with this team, because
Speaker 2: they if you get to your eighth game and you
Speaker 2: are four and four, or let's say you're five and three,
Speaker 2: which they could be after tonight. They're gonna be one
Speaker 2: of those two. I mean, if you're four and four,
Speaker 2: that's a tough pill to swallow, but we'd have to
Speaker 2: do exactly that and just face the facts. But a win.
Speaker 2: But yet you're still cutting it too close. I just think,
Speaker 2: you know, that wouldn't be ideal. When you get to
Speaker 2: Clemson at their place. Pittsburgh, who, by the way, they
Speaker 2: look insanely good. I don't know if it was a
Speaker 2: product of Qus being terrible, but Pittsburgh still unbeaten and
Speaker 2: they played their best game of the season last night
Speaker 2: against Syracuse. So you know, you go to Stanford and
Speaker 2: play and I don't think they're any good. But still,
Speaker 2: I mean, you've played some teams this year that I
Speaker 2: don't think are that good and you could have easily lost,
Speaker 2: like Virginia at their place a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: So again, postgame show will start as soon as it ends,
Speaker 2: and then we will have pregame show as well, so
Speaker 2: you'll get a thirty minute break for me, and then
Speaker 2: we will fire up the pregame show starting at six
Speaker 2: thirty percented by percent about Jefferson Anvil Hospital as well
Speaker 2: as Pellow Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky. All right,
Speaker 2: so we got a lot to get into today. We're
Speaker 2: going to be joined by a handful of different guests.
Speaker 2: Today we'll be talking Coming up here on the other side,
Speaker 2: doctor Larry Ben's of Proria Physical Therapy is set to
Speaker 2: join us. We'll talk to him. I want to get
Speaker 2: his thoughts on Colin Lacey as far as his decision.
Speaker 2: You know, jeff said he came back early, and id
Speaker 2: be like the timetable did seem like he did return
Speaker 2: a little earlier than what I was expecting. But again,
Speaker 2: what the hell do I know? But could that have
Speaker 2: really been a factor in why he decided. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it's an easy thing to bring up that
Speaker 2: if he's playing and the season's not anywhere near what
Speaker 2: he thought it would be one because he missed three
Speaker 2: games and Louisville's losing games, and if he's not one
Speaker 2: hundred percent like I think that makes it make a
Speaker 2: lot more sense. I still get why fans are pissed
Speaker 2: about it, but like from his perspective, I think it's
Speaker 2: it's a little more understandable than those that just think
Speaker 2: he's quitting so he can salvage another year and go
Speaker 2: make more money. And by the way, if he's doing that,
Speaker 2: he's a smart guy, to be honest with you. That's
Speaker 2: just how I feel about it. So we'll talk to
Speaker 2: Larry about that. Also to a tug of Alowa coming back.
Speaker 2: If you remember about a month ago, whatever that was,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure everybody acted like one he was dead.
Speaker 2: And also he may never like play again, and now
Speaker 2: here he is. Yeah, so that's I mean.
Speaker 3: And he's not going to be wearing the britsack.
Speaker 2: Yeah cap, Yeah, I raw dog in it. He's I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like this. I mean not to question what
Speaker 2: kind of real impact that those caps can can provide,
Speaker 2: but I feel like wearing that would make me think
Speaker 2: a little too much about the previous concussions that I've had,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be I wouldn't be in a good
Speaker 2: mental place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They just look goofy to me. Yeah, sorry, I get
Speaker 3: what the whole thing is. They just look goofy.
Speaker 2: They do look very goofy. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: So again, doctor Ben's gonna join usming up here. On
Speaker 2: the other side. We'll talk to Alex Kupper coming up
Speaker 2: at four oh five, and then we will bring in
Speaker 2: the one and only mister Alex R. White, who we
Speaker 2: are hanging out here at his offices today. He's gonna
Speaker 2: join us around four thirty. Very nice to talk about
Speaker 2: a really cool event that he's a part of. And
Speaker 2: with him being an attorney, he has prepared a deposition
Speaker 2: for me. He's gonna ask me deposition questions. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be basically, I'm gonna be. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know anything about legal terms and am I gonna be
Speaker 2: on the stand here if I'm getting deposed? I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, again, my legal jargon's not great,
Speaker 2: but it's some part of the legal process. So I'm
Speaker 2: a little nervous. But you know, we're gonna watch his sweats. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll have some fun with it. So again, hang out
Speaker 2: with us for the next two and a half hours roughly.
Speaker 2: We'll take you up till six o'clock. Again, we are
Speaker 2: coming you a live from the offices of Alex R.
Speaker 2: White Lawyers. Sue Distracted Driver dot Com. It's Coffee and Company.
Speaker 2: Feel about Thorton's right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 2: it's game day Louisville and Boston College. And I was
Speaker 2: not aware that that that Boston College has had as
Speaker 2: much success against Louisville as they have. And that's you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's something that is a talking point
Speaker 2: in the college football landscape or even you know, in
Speaker 2: the ACC for that matter, But Louisville is not one
Speaker 2: at Boston College since twenty sixteen. That was the year,
Speaker 2: that was the year Lamar Jackson won the Heisman. So
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to you know, when it
Speaker 2: comes to teams that you know, most people just view
Speaker 2: our the weaker of you know, of the pack when
Speaker 2: it was to the ACC. You don't want to lose
Speaker 2: to these kind of teams. Although again, Boston College is
Speaker 2: an interesting team to look at moving forward because I
Speaker 2: do think they have a really good coach, but they
Speaker 2: don't have nil resources. And as we talked yesterday with
Speaker 2: the beat writer who covers Boston College for the Boston Globe,
Speaker 2: is that phill Brian kind of like lets players know
Speaker 2: that he that he's pursuing that like he doesn't He's
Speaker 2: not He's not real big into nil I mean, and
Speaker 2: maybe I'm actually underselling it. Maybe he actually tells them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about nil, then like you
Speaker 2: shouldn't come here, which is a wild strategy to have
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. But you know, whatever he's doing
Speaker 2: this year, it's working to an extent to where they've
Speaker 2: been able to be a better, better team than I
Speaker 2: think most would have expected. Uh, Rick, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Rick? Are you there?
Speaker 2: I'm here? Did did we get did we get a
Speaker 2: call from from doctor Ben's not yet? Still wait? Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: just let me know whenever he whenever he does call,
Speaker 2: and he should be calling us here in just uh
Speaker 2: in just a moment. But anyways, again, tonight, we'll have
Speaker 2: pregame coverage starting at six thirty. Postgame show we'll start
Speaker 2: right after and uh, we'll see what what you know,
Speaker 2: I'm more anxious for this game than than I probably
Speaker 2: should be. And the reason that I say that, as
Speaker 2: far as you know, I shouldn't be this anxious just
Speaker 2: because it would have been nice to come into this
Speaker 2: game with like a ton of confidence. And I look,
Speaker 2: I think it was a better team than Boston College.
Speaker 2: I think their favorites for obvious reasons and That's really
Speaker 2: the root of like a lot of the frustration for
Speaker 2: me as a fan is because I still think Louisvell's
Speaker 2: got it, Like they got the pieces to be a
Speaker 2: pretty good team. They're not great at every spot, meaning
Speaker 2: like they you know, the offensive line, you know, is
Speaker 2: probably not viewed as anywhere near a strength for this team.
Speaker 2: But I think you've got pieces around the offense that
Speaker 2: you can you can scheme to where your offensive line
Speaker 2: is not, you know, exposed so much. Now there's gonna
Speaker 2: be certain matchups that's gonna be really tough for them.
Speaker 2: But you know, I thought they did a pretty good
Speaker 2: job against against Miami, who's got a really good defensive front,
Speaker 2: you know, defensively, I mean, they're kind of just it's
Speaker 2: just been sort of a mess. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: it sounds foolish when I say, hey, the defense has
Speaker 2: a lot of talent, given the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: you watched Miami drag multiple Louisville defenders many more yards
Speaker 2: than they should have gotten on the handful of those
Speaker 2: plays and including a couple of them that were really embarrassing,
Speaker 2: I'm sure to watch if you're one of those guys
Speaker 2: that tried to arm tie and just got carried for
Speaker 2: sometimes seemingly five to seven yards or something like that.
Speaker 2: So the pieces are there, they just haven't really put
Speaker 2: it all together. And that's why tonight, I think is
Speaker 2: such a big opportunity for this group to play a
Speaker 2: clean football game. And what I mean by that is,
Speaker 2: don't be sloppy, don't make mistakes that seem to be
Speaker 2: very avoidable. Now you're going to still get some penalties.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make mistakes. You're not going to be perfect.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you get penalties and you know, you go
Speaker 2: back and look at it and you feel like you
Speaker 2: got host you got a bad call. But then sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, even if it is a questionable call, you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville did something to put themselves in a situation where
Speaker 2: the ref had the opportunity to call it. And I
Speaker 2: haven't talked a whole lot about officiating. In fact, that
Speaker 2: is something that a few people here and there over
Speaker 2: the last few weeks have brought up, like why aren't
Speaker 2: you more critical of the officials. It's not like I'm
Speaker 2: telling you that Louisville hasn't had some calls go against
Speaker 2: them this year that clearly had an impact in the
Speaker 2: result because you know, like that's true. I believe that.
Speaker 2: I just think that the reason officiating has been talked
Speaker 2: about so much this year for Louisville, other than, of
Speaker 2: course the obvious bad calls or the reviews where you're wondering,
Speaker 2: what were they watching that we didn't see to make
Speaker 2: that change as far as what they were going to do,
Speaker 2: is because you put yourself in that position that bad call, miscall,
Speaker 2: whatever it was late was so crucial because you were
Speaker 2: in a spot to where whatever that rep decides good call,
Speaker 2: bad call, it's gonna make a huge difference in who
Speaker 2: wins and loses the game. So you know you're you're
Speaker 2: making mistakes as a team that make those missed calls
Speaker 2: way more memorable and way more crucial. You're going to
Speaker 2: get calls go against you every every game, and sometimes
Speaker 2: it's gonna be worse than others, and sometimes there's going
Speaker 2: to be egregious calls that like you wonder, what the
Speaker 2: hell are they are they conspiring against us? Which I've
Speaker 2: never once believed that, and I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of fans truly believe that, you know, the acc or
Speaker 2: anybody's just out to get them. But at times it's
Speaker 2: probably seemed that way just with I mean, the one
Speaker 2: thing that really set me off Austin was in the
Speaker 2: game against Miami. I think it might have been Jacory
Speaker 2: Brooks or maybe Chris Bell, where he ran to the
Speaker 2: sideline and strategically did exactly what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: He knew he was close enough to the line, so
Speaker 2: he just reached the ball over, yeah, and he got
Speaker 2: the first down by like two yards seemingly, and they
Speaker 2: didn't even review it, like, and I don't even know
Speaker 2: how they ended up going to look at it. I
Speaker 2: don't think Jeff burned a time out to make them
Speaker 2: go look at it, but like the the announcers themselves
Speaker 2: were even like are they not gonna look at this?
Speaker 2: And we've gotten some questionable spots all year, and that
Speaker 2: that one actually set me off to where I'm like, like,
Speaker 2: you can't be making this up when it comes to
Speaker 2: how terrible all of these most of these spots have
Speaker 2: been for Louisville this year. But other than that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the double pass interference call on Colin Lacy,
Speaker 2: I mean I've never seen anything like that. That was crazy.
Speaker 2: The yeah, and then the what was the other one?
Speaker 2: The again the fumbles, right.
Speaker 4: There were spots different spots expect in the Virginia game,
Speaker 4: and they had a remember it was I can't remember
Speaker 4: who the running back was. It had it had to
Speaker 4: have been forward, no, no, no, it had to have
Speaker 4: been Isaac Brown. But they they stopped as momentum.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, weird thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they went forward on fourth. Yeah. So look,
Speaker 2: I think the officiating has been questionable. In fact, it's
Speaker 2: probably been further than questionable at times this year. But
Speaker 2: I think we were noticing it a little bit more
Speaker 2: than we usually do because you're in close games against
Speaker 2: good teams late and if you know, could it could
Speaker 2: come down to one call that's really just the referee judgment,
Speaker 2: and if it doesn't go your way, it could, it could,
Speaker 2: it could have an impact on it. So it's not
Speaker 2: that the officiating has been great and not worthy of criticism.
Speaker 2: I just think you notice the poor calls that go
Speaker 2: against you a lot more frequently whenever you are in
Speaker 2: the spot that you've been in games this year where
Speaker 2: you know you made some crucial mistakes that make it
Speaker 2: such a close game late. But again, let's hope tonight
Speaker 2: they play a clean game. Take care of business. Uh,
Speaker 2: and and avoid some of these mistakes that I think
Speaker 2: have been pretty avoidable. All right, let's bring it in.
Speaker 2: And he's doctor Larry Ben's from pro Rea Physical Therapy.
Speaker 2: We certainly appreciate him as always making time for us
Speaker 2: here on a beautiful Friday afternoon. How we doing, doctor Ben's.
Speaker 1: We're doing wonderful game day, getting sight right jailgate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So I'm I'm assuming you've been to
Speaker 2: Boston College Louisville games before up there in Boston, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: It's a great place to go. Obviously, you can get
Speaker 1: a good Italian dinners and go up there on the
Speaker 1: hill and go to the game. It's not the best
Speaker 1: stadium in the world, but good atmosphere, great campus, you know,
Speaker 1: great school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. So I've gone once and it was
Speaker 2: only for It was for a basketball game, and they
Speaker 2: had a big hockey game the next night, so there
Speaker 2: was more buzz on campus about that than there was basketball.
Speaker 2: In Boston. College hoops wasn't in a great place at
Speaker 2: the time, but I remember thinking, man, this campus is
Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful. But once I got to the arena itself,
Speaker 2: and then the stadium that you mentioned, and of course
Speaker 2: it wasn't football season. I was I was a little supermitted. Again,
Speaker 2: it's not that nice of a stadium, but it is
Speaker 2: a it is a beautiful campus. And what kind of
Speaker 2: turnout do they usually get as far as fans, if there,
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how good the team is.
Speaker 2: They're not great this year, but I think they're probably
Speaker 2: having a better start than they were anticipating. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would imagine they probably have some light crowds, but
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting. You know, it's a Friday night.
Speaker 1: It's a big night for high school football in Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: just like it is here in Kentucky. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the crowd will be like. You know, I suspect
Speaker 1: it will be pretty good. They have, you know, a
Speaker 1: nice history there of renewed spirit with Bill O'Brien as
Speaker 1: a coach, and they've been competitive. You can talk about
Speaker 1: how good or bad they are, but they've been absolutely competitive.
Speaker 1: And it might be one of the better offenses in
Speaker 1: a sense that we face. I mean, certainly Miami, you know,
Speaker 1: the got to get in there due but it could
Speaker 1: be another track mate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got an they've got a running quarterback
Speaker 2: who gave us some trouble last year, and obviously that's
Speaker 2: been something that's that's been an issue for the Cards
Speaker 2: so far this season. But Bill O'Brien, man, he's he's
Speaker 2: somebody that I think is a little bit above the
Speaker 2: job that he has, but obviously he's from the Boston
Speaker 2: area and he wanted to get back into the college game.
Speaker 2: And uh, these I mean, I know, Florida State has
Speaker 2: not looked good at all this year. I mean, they've
Speaker 2: really been probably the most disappointing team in the country.
Speaker 2: But that didn't take away how impressive Boston College was
Speaker 2: in Week two. You know, Florida State didn't know they
Speaker 2: were that bad at that point, and Boston College just
Speaker 2: completely bullied them. So yeah, they've had a couple of
Speaker 2: losses back to back, but yeah, I mean there's I
Speaker 2: think I think the Cards are a better team. I
Speaker 2: expect them to win, but I also know that Boston
Speaker 2: College certainly isn't gonna roll over because as you mentioned,
Speaker 2: they've been they've they've been competitive this year. One guy
Speaker 2: that will be with the Louis will be will be
Speaker 2: without is Colin Lacy, who has decided to shut it
Speaker 2: down for the season. Jeff said something last week. I
Speaker 2: think it might have been before the Miami game that
Speaker 2: that Colin had had come back early. Do you think
Speaker 2: that that is that more so just because maybe they
Speaker 2: had a different timetable. They were expecting them to maybe
Speaker 2: need a little bit more time to get healthy. And
Speaker 2: then sure enough, working with the trainers, working with the
Speaker 2: medical staf, he got the green light and he was
Speaker 2: able to go. Because with him with his decision, there
Speaker 2: are some folks wondering, and it's really not our business,
Speaker 2: but folks wondering, maybe did he reaggravate it? Was he
Speaker 2: not fully at one hundred percent? And I know that's
Speaker 2: tough for anybody to know other than him and the
Speaker 2: medical professionals that work closely with him. But I guess
Speaker 2: overall that injury, that surgery that he had for him
Speaker 2: to return when he did against Notre Dame, would you
Speaker 2: view that as a little early? Right on? Tom maybe
Speaker 2: you know in the middle.
Speaker 1: Well, it's very hard to tell. I mean, he had
Speaker 1: a couple effective possessions in that game. It's difficult. I
Speaker 1: think the thing that fans are having a hard time
Speaker 1: with including myself, is that athletes. Now, student athletes have
Speaker 1: way more options. I mean, the scales have tipped, you know,
Speaker 1: arguably more in favor of student athletes than schools or
Speaker 1: the athletic departments. I don't mean that in a negative sense,
Speaker 1: because I absolutely believe in NIL and I absolutely believe
Speaker 1: in revshare. But now you've got unlimited transfers. You have
Speaker 1: this a bill to play four games yet keep you know,
Speaker 1: an extra year, which is thankfully some of that's true
Speaker 1: because we got a quarterback who's outstanding, who's played for
Speaker 1: what the last ten years. Yeah, and so you have
Speaker 1: this sort of phenomenon, and I think it's hard for
Speaker 1: us to accept, but I could assure you that he
Speaker 1: made an informed decision in conjunction with his advisor, with
Speaker 1: his parents. I don't know his personal situation that well,
Speaker 1: with the coaches who he deeply respects. He's a transfer
Speaker 1: for us, and you know, let's hope for the best.
Speaker 1: Let's hope that he gets healthy and does stick around
Speaker 1: and play for us next year. You never know, because
Speaker 1: we're just not used to these student athletes having unlimited
Speaker 1: options like they do now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're certainly adjusting to this new world, and it's
Speaker 2: still relatively new in the grand scheme of things, considering
Speaker 2: for generations. You know, the NCAA rules as far as
Speaker 2: amateurism was exactly the same. And now you know, there's
Speaker 2: a reason people keep bringing up the wild Wild West.
Speaker 2: But we've benefited from it as well. You know, you
Speaker 2: mentioned Tyler Schuck. I mean, I'll take an eleventh year
Speaker 2: if we can get it. Larry. I think he's been
Speaker 2: he's been sensational, and he's a guy that has dealt
Speaker 2: with a lot of injuries, and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure if anybody believes in Jinx's
Speaker 2: and then a knock on wood here, because you know,
Speaker 2: he's clearly healthy and he's playing some really, really good football.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I feel like in the world of
Speaker 2: those who work with rehabbing athletes who have gone through
Speaker 2: not just one, not just two, but three pretty significant
Speaker 2: injuries that have caused you to miss a lot of
Speaker 2: time in your career, like this is probably a pretty
Speaker 2: good story in that field for a guy that you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's gone through it many times, he's gone through
Speaker 2: you know, recovering from different injuries, and now here he
Speaker 2: is you know, I would imagine that when he went
Speaker 2: down at Texas Tech. There's probably a lot of folks,
Speaker 2: even folks close to him, Larry that thought, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe it just wasn't meant to be. He just can't
Speaker 2: stay healthy. And now he's playing the best football of
Speaker 2: his life. And clearly it's a product of him trusting
Speaker 2: in the rehab process.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, he has had something incredible injuries, so he's come
Speaker 1: back from big kid, strong kid. What most impressive is,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously his maturity. Notwithstanding, I think the other
Speaker 1: impressive thing about him is the scheme that coach Brohm
Speaker 1: and they've developed around him. He's not the most mobile
Speaker 1: quarterback yet he has a little bit of elusiveness at times,
Speaker 1: but the plays and the others. I know fans sometimes
Speaker 1: get upset at certain play calls and things, but you
Speaker 1: have to develop a scheme around your quarterback. And it's
Speaker 1: the reason why Tom Brady was able to play as
Speaker 1: many years as he did. He had a coaching staff
Speaker 1: and a group that was willing to, you know, augment
Speaker 1: his strengths and put him in his sweet spot. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Jeff and Brian brom have done
Speaker 1: a tremendous job of coaching him up. You know, look,
Speaker 1: he played completely different offenses at Texas Tech and the
Speaker 1: West Coast and you know now back at Louisville. So
Speaker 1: it's a credit all the way around.
Speaker 3: But he's sure has been fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't appreciate those saxophones and a lot
Speaker 1: that would get these those things like awfully painful. But
Speaker 1: he's he's made the passes when he's needed to. We've
Speaker 1: had some bad luck, We've had some really tough calls
Speaker 1: that arguably a process potentially some games, and yet here
Speaker 1: we are have a chance to you know, make a
Speaker 1: little run here, have a good showing to night Weeds.
Speaker 1: Yet I had had a game where we've put it
Speaker 1: all together. I think we'll see that tonight. I'm very optimistic.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I trust I
Speaker 1: trust the jockey, and I trust our horses, and I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna We're gonna have a great win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, with with with some of
Speaker 2: the calls, and it's not just Louisville. I've noticed it
Speaker 2: in a few other games this year. In fact, they're
Speaker 2: both acc games the ones that come to mind, but
Speaker 2: you know, I thought it was you. You go and
Speaker 2: you review it, and even if you're not quite sure,
Speaker 2: that means you have to stick with the call that
Speaker 2: was made, and that has worked against Louisville and worked
Speaker 2: against Virginia Tech when they I mean, I think in
Speaker 2: the end they probably got that call right in that
Speaker 2: game as far as the Miami and Virginia Tech finished,
Speaker 2: but I think they didn't have any evidence to correct
Speaker 2: their call. So look, some people just say, hey, if
Speaker 2: you get it right, you get it right. But if
Speaker 2: you're if you're on the other end and you know that,
Speaker 2: you know you could benefit from the refs getting around
Speaker 2: the first time, you'll certainly take it. But and you
Speaker 2: may not know this, Larry, but what we see on TV,
Speaker 2: I've always just assumed that that that's the same exact angles,
Speaker 2: in the same exact footage that they're reviewing the referees.
Speaker 2: But is that the case? And if you don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm apologize for putting you on the spot. But there
Speaker 2: have been a handful where you're thinking, Okay, what did
Speaker 2: they see that we didn't?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in college, I don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1: The NFL, I do they have way more angles that
Speaker 1: they look at in the NFL because I'm saying that
Speaker 1: a more resources and more it and more film. But
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sharing college. I don't understand though.
Speaker 1: You know this whole concept behind, you know, irrefutable or air.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't dispute this evidence, and then they
Speaker 1: turn around a call that completely looked, you know, questionable.
Speaker 1: So we've just been on the other side of those.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that'll turn a little bit here. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you watched the NFL game last night, but that
Speaker 1: could have been one of the worst calls I've seen
Speaker 1: a non calls insight or season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, and that and that's one of those that
Speaker 2: referees I think most of them know, and and those
Speaker 2: who want a referee press conference after the game, I
Speaker 2: think you'd be pretty underwhelmed because I think these guys
Speaker 2: would tell you that they do make mistakes and they
Speaker 2: get some stuff wrong. But for that one in a
Speaker 2: standalone game on Thursday night, a late a late missed
Speaker 2: call there, I mean, that's a tough tough look for
Speaker 2: NFL officials, no doubt. But doctor Larry Ben's is our
Speaker 2: guest joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety a
Speaker 2: game day edition of Coffee and Company. As the Cards
Speaker 2: are set to take on Boston College this evening. I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about Tuatuga below us. So he's
Speaker 2: returning to action after suffering another concussion a little earlier
Speaker 2: this year. He has cleared what is the NFL's you know,
Speaker 2: the timeline he had to set out for the for
Speaker 2: the concussion that he suffered. He chose not to wear
Speaker 2: one of those one of those caps. I think I
Speaker 2: can't think of the name of what they're called. Maybe
Speaker 2: is a guardian cap. Maybe that that they're wearing over
Speaker 2: top of the helmets too. You know, I guess potential
Speaker 2: to protect you if you do have another head injury.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there would potentially be a situation
Speaker 2: where they may force players to win that if they've
Speaker 2: had so many concussions. I know remember years ago when
Speaker 2: Peyton Siva and Elijah Justice they'd had so many concussions,
Speaker 2: which is rare for basketball, that they were required I
Speaker 2: believe to wear those helmets in practice because of the injuries.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, Tua wants to not wear it, it's
Speaker 2: certainly his choice, But would you think we could ever
Speaker 2: see something to where they would let people know, hey, look,
Speaker 2: if you want to keep playing in this league, we
Speaker 2: want to keep you safe, We're going to advise you
Speaker 2: wear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I can give you a
Speaker 1: couple examples over the years. When I was an athletic
Speaker 1: trainer in college, the knee braces that offensive linemen or
Speaker 1: were effectively optional. We had them available, they were for prevention,
Speaker 1: you know reasons, and very few were them. Then the
Speaker 1: mandates started to happen and the research started to come
Speaker 1: out that said, you know, these things really do prevent
Speaker 1: knee injuries for offensive linemen, and so effectively everybody wears
Speaker 1: that that same thing could happen on concussions. Nobody has
Speaker 1: put more money into concussions in the NFL. They have
Speaker 1: had the most to risk, They had the largest financial settlement.
Speaker 1: They are the only professional franchise that I'm aware of
Speaker 1: that has a protocol, a very defying concussion protocol to
Speaker 1: specifically didn't help himself a few you know, earlier in
Speaker 1: the week when he said I would die playing football
Speaker 1: or something to that effect, because it caused a lot
Speaker 1: of people to say, well, maybe he's signed waivers that
Speaker 1: you know, he's willing to take on the risk. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. Remember, these guys are employees.
Speaker 1: They aired their employment agreements under contracts, and they have
Speaker 1: a protocol. It doesn't matter what he says. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't get through the approval of that protocol, which is
Speaker 1: in theory and independent you know physician, typically a neurologist
Speaker 1: or as you know, head injury specialist, he's not going
Speaker 1: to get to play. I personally think at some point
Speaker 1: you've got to call it quits if you've had too
Speaker 1: many repetitive concussions. We have seen athletes and we won't
Speaker 1: necessarily name them, that obviously got their bell rang too
Speaker 1: many times back in the day when they didn't monitor it.
Speaker 1: So I'm all about safety. I believe that you can
Speaker 1: have too many concussions and you have to think long tail,
Speaker 1: long term. So I'm not crazy about him playing, but
Speaker 1: I respect the decision, and I respect more so in
Speaker 1: the NFL for having very very you know, effective you
Speaker 1: know prevention and medical intervention for such a really damaging
Speaker 1: injury like a concussion.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the NFL being so invested in in concussion
Speaker 2: research and whatnot, and I think that you know, it's
Speaker 2: what they should do as far as really being worried
Speaker 2: about and really prioritizing always looking out to be on
Speaker 2: top of it when it comes to player safety. Rather
Speaker 2: that is learning about new things. So I guess what
Speaker 2: I'm asking. I feel like it's safe to say that
Speaker 2: it would be tough to really criticize the NFL as
Speaker 2: if they don't care about keeping players safe. I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, I think some of the criticism from NFL
Speaker 2: fans is that they're they're too soft now, and I
Speaker 2: think that speaks to that they you know, they understand
Speaker 2: it's a violent sport. There's always going to be injuries.
Speaker 2: There's certainly a lot of risks. But I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe they don't get enough credit for making sure that
Speaker 2: they're all ways continuously making sure they're learning whatever they
Speaker 2: can to keep these guys as safe as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I mean, remember they've had REVS share for
Speaker 1: a long time. They've had a very progressive pension system,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on how many years could be as
Speaker 1: low as what five and a half. Now, there's been strikes,
Speaker 1: usually the players have won those strikes, so they've acquiesced
Speaker 1: the concussion management. They had a large financial settlement on
Speaker 1: this year alone, we're watching a very goofy kickoff and
Speaker 1: kickoff return in part because of the data around the
Speaker 1: injuries there. So I think they've been very, very progressive.
Speaker 1: I would not call them soft. I think you use
Speaker 1: If you're not going to use evidence in data to
Speaker 1: drive decisions and change the game, then why do it?
Speaker 2: Well said? All right, last question for you. I'm a
Speaker 2: Pacers fan and the opener one of the new members
Speaker 2: of the roster, James Wiseman. He suffered a torn left
Speaker 2: achilles which is probably going to put him out for
Speaker 2: for a long long time. I saw somebody speculating earlier
Speaker 2: this was just probably just nonsense on social media. But
Speaker 2: with certain injuries over the years, you know there's now
Speaker 2: I mean, you can recover much quicker from certain injuries
Speaker 2: than you could ten twenty years ago. The NBA is
Speaker 2: a long season, Like there's no scenario that he would
Speaker 2: be able to like return and play this year, right,
Speaker 2: like if they made the playoffs and made like the
Speaker 2: second round, which is unlikely form my Pacers. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I saw that eno thought I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ask doctor Vin's that question because I feel like
Speaker 2: that's a reach there that he could he could make
Speaker 2: a return from that kind of an injury, even if
Speaker 2: it did occur in the first game of the season
Speaker 2: in late October.
Speaker 1: Now, if he had a complete tear, and typically in
Speaker 1: basketball you do. You can go to Reddit look up
Speaker 1: all the great basketball players that have had complete achilles tear,
Speaker 1: and he will come back next year. I think some
Speaker 1: people are spoiled a little bit because last year Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: in an absolutely almost irresponsible way, claimed he was going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, playing by the middle or end
Speaker 1: of season and having some advanced procedure. Well, the reality
Speaker 1: is you can't. You know, you can't overcome other nature.
Speaker 1: I watched my Cleveland Browns literally with Deshaun Watson, and
Speaker 1: they had a great camera angle as it was happening
Speaker 1: on his torn achilles. As soon as it happened, I
Speaker 1: texted my grid folks, all who are big time Browns
Speaker 1: fans from around the country. I said achilles because it
Speaker 1: was so obvious. But those are tough injuries. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine a hoops player coming back in one season, especially.
Speaker 2: I mean a guy that is seven foot tall. I
Speaker 2: mean you would want to be is I mean you
Speaker 2: want to be as safe as possible with everybody. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I again, I'm certainly not a professional when it comes
Speaker 2: to injuries and tom loins and whatnot. But I felt
Speaker 2: like that was a little foolish to put out there.
Speaker 2: But hey, it's the Internet. You look hard enough, you'll
Speaker 2: find a lot of foolish stuff on there. But doctor Ben's,
Speaker 2: we always appreciate you making time for us, especially on
Speaker 2: a game day. And let's hope the Cards can can
Speaker 2: get the win tonight.
Speaker 1: Absolutely have a good one.
Speaker 2: Let's go Cars, Go Cards. That is doctor Larry Ben's
Speaker 2: a pro reap physical therapy, good conversation with him, good stuff.
Speaker 2: And because of the commercial breaks that we had in
Speaker 2: place Certaly, we actually were able to have a long
Speaker 2: segment there. So what we're gonna do here? And I'm
Speaker 2: kind of thinking out loud here, folks. You guys have
Speaker 2: heard me talk about it more than I I mean,
Speaker 2: I should never talk about it because it shouldn't be
Speaker 2: an issue. But I'm really bad at clock management. Think
Speaker 2: of the worst coach that you've ever watched when it
Speaker 2: comes to football, basketball and you just think, yeah, this
Speaker 2: guy stinks when it comes to clock management. I'm worse
Speaker 2: than that when it comes to managing the clock of
Speaker 2: this show. Like Mark Sooops gets criticized for a lot
Speaker 2: of things, especially lately, but I feel like clock management
Speaker 2: is something that Kentucky fans have consistently said he's really
Speaker 2: bad at. I'm worse than that when it comes to
Speaker 2: managing the clock and making sure we have balanced segments
Speaker 2: to where you know, we don't have one segment that's
Speaker 2: extremely long and then one that's pretty shorter than one
Speaker 2: that's extremely short at the end. Like I want to
Speaker 2: avoid that, but I just if I could fix it out,
Speaker 2: I already would, But now I'm kind of thinking, like
Speaker 2: maybe we burn that first break at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the show like Rick did, and that way I can
Speaker 2: spread it out a little bit more. Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't by design, but maybe Rick, of all people,
Speaker 2: the legendary radio Rick Ryder, he might have given me
Speaker 2: an idea that could help solve this problem that I
Speaker 2: have with poor clock management. So Rick, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna start rolling with this, not today, but
Speaker 2: moving forward. So thank you, I mean, not only thank
Speaker 2: you for doing a great job every time we work together,
Speaker 2: but I think this is this is the way to
Speaker 2: go about it, and I will I know, I owe
Speaker 2: Alle the credit to you, my man.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm giving you pearls here and Nick.
Speaker 2: Oh man Rick is the best, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back here. We got two more hours to go.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Alex Kupper coming up here
Speaker 2: in about ten minutes, former Louisville cardinal. We'll get his
Speaker 2: thoughts on this matchup tonight. And you know, playing clean football,
Speaker 2: putting it all together, avoiding sloppy play. Those are things
Speaker 2: that you've heard me mention a lot of Louisville fans
Speaker 2: mentioned throughout this season. I mean, if there was an
Speaker 2: easy fix to just you know, hey, let's let let's
Speaker 2: let's implement this and we won't make these same silly mistakes.
Speaker 2: If it was easy, you know, you wouldn't have teams
Speaker 2: that do what Louisvill's doing this year. But from a
Speaker 2: player's perspective, maybe Cup can give us, in fact, maybe
Speaker 2: give this team some advice on how to clean some
Speaker 2: things up. So we'll talk to Cup here coming up
Speaker 2: here at about four ten four or five ish. And
Speaker 2: then also we'll bring in the one and only Alex R. White,
Speaker 2: who's here. We're live at his office today for the show.
Speaker 2: We appreciate them hosting us in this beautiful office. But
Speaker 2: he's going to join us to talk about a early
Speaker 2: special event that he's a part of. He'll come on
Speaker 2: at four thirty, and he's also he's also going to
Speaker 2: depose me, which I'm kind of nervous about, but hopefully,
Speaker 2: I hopefully I'm able to, you know, survive. Should be
Speaker 2: fun though, in all seriousness, and we're gonna have fun
Speaker 2: the next couple of hours, So don't go anywhere. It's
Speaker 2: coffee and company fuel. Beth Orton's here on a Friday
Speaker 2: game day on Sports Talk seven ninety