WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.320 Oh bed Desar, Hello and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:51.679 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan. 3 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:52.719 I'm Jacob. 4 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:56.240 And for anybody that is on Patreon watching this video, 5 00:00:56.399 --> 00:01:00.320 you'll be able to see the two beautiful, glorious gray 6 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.239 aliens that are very well known within the alien and 7 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.319 UFO culture. Jacob, have you seen these these kinds of 8 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.280 this picture or these creatures before. 9 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.120 I've seen pictures and things. This looked very similar to these. 10 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:17.040 I don't know I've ever actually seen these specifically, but yeah, 11 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.799 the the voldemort looking nose, the big black eyes, the 12 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.920 bulbous heads, the like slender jaw lines. This is kind 13 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:27.159 of an iconic look of what most people think of 14 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.680 when we talk about aliens ets things like that. This 15 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.480 is one of like five archetypes, these iconic images that 16 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:35.879 will come to mind for sure. 17 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.879 One hundred percent now and for anybody that wants to 18 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:40.680 be able to watch us over on Patreon, you want 19 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:41.719 to be able to get the shows a couple of 20 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.040 days in advance. You want to be able to listen 21 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:49.599 to the shows completely. Damn, you took my completely from me. 22 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.040 That's all right, hey, it's it's the best way to 23 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:53.920 be able to support the show. Also, if you want 24 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.120 to come join us every Tuesday night at nine pm Central, 25 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.000 you'll be able to join us for the Third Eye 26 00:01:59.000 --> 00:01:59.799 all the way open to you. 27 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.519 That is the cult member live show. 28 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.439 So it's the best way to be able to support 29 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:05.879 the show, and we appreciate all the good cult members 30 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:07.560 that have already done so. But I did want to 31 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:11.479 say this picture rate here is very well known within 32 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:16.759 UFO pop culture, alien pop culture. This is the gray 33 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.479 alien that most people think of and refer to of 34 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.240 And this is from a guy very well known within 35 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.879 the alien community. Whitley Streeber. Is what we're gonna be 36 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:31.879 getting into today. This is unlike a lot of other 37 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.840 UFO stories, but also similar to some other UFO stories 38 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.919 and alien kind of stories, close encounters of the third kind, 39 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.199 close encounters of the fourth kind. It's not so much 40 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.639 the fifth kind that doctor Stephen Grew talks about. 41 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.680 But this is like in person and so. 42 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.960 What does that mean the third, fourth, and fifth kind fifth. 43 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.400 I know that Richard Greer, he's out there in the 44 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.919 in the desert and they take some sort of ainogenics 45 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.599 and then they have an experience, and that's considered in 46 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:04.560 a fifth kind. 47 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:06.360 What is the third and fourth? Because I know there 48 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:08.000 was a movie right. 49 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.400 Of the third kind or something, and it's basically like 50 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.599 you physically are either taking up on their ship or 51 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.680 you have a physical exposure of some type. 52 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:18.319 What's the fourth kind. 53 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.599 I'm actually gonna look it up because I want to 54 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.919 be able to describe it perfectly. I have a pretty 55 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:29.599 good idea about what they are, so let's see. So yeah, 56 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.800 because it's they're all very different, but it's still contact 57 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:36.080 in one way or another. So, yeah, you have close 58 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:40.039 encounters of the of the first kind. It says visual 59 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.080 sightings of an unidentified flying object less than five hundred 60 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.879 feet away that appear to be structured and demonstrate intelligent movement. 61 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:48.439 So that's close. 62 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.639 I've had one of those with that flying El Camino. 63 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.280 I've done seen. That's a strange encounter of the first kind. 64 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.520 Close encounter. Yeah, yeah, excuse. 65 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.039 Me, close encounter of the first kind. 66 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:57.439 All right. 67 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.960 Then you have close encounters of the second kind, which 68 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.120 which is a UFO event that leaves a physical effect 69 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.680 on the environment or the witness. So an example would 70 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:11.479 be burned or flattened vegetation, so crop circle kind of thing. 71 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:16.639 Radio or car, electrical interference, imprints or marks on the ground, 72 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:21.879 malfunctioning electronics, and animals reacting unusually. So that's a close 73 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.720 encounter of the second kind. Close encounter of the third kind, 74 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.959 which is the kind that this guy had. It's an 75 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:32.920 encounter with visible beings in association with a UFO sighting. So, 76 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:34.720 and then it talks about the types of beings that 77 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.160 are reported with close encounters of the third kind, such 78 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:42.079 as humanoid like so human like entities, grays like the 79 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.639 little gray alien, small bodies, large head, black eyes, and 80 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:49.160 some people talk about reptilians, Nordics and insectoids also as 81 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.759 being a close encounter of the third kind. 82 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:52.920 But then you have does a. 83 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:56.120 Craft of some kind, you have visual confirmation of a 84 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.560 living being associated with it. 85 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.920 All I'm with you, yes, yeah, And then it says 86 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:05.480 that there are sub categories originally proposed by researcher Ted Bloker. 87 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:07.399 I think it's how you say his name. So you 88 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.839 have type type A all the way through type G. 89 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:14.040 But basically type A is an entity scene outside of 90 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:18.160 of outside the UFO. Type B is an entity scene 91 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:22.360 inside the UFO through a window. Type C entity scene 92 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.959 with no UFO present, but within context. Type D is 93 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.079 communication with entity, whether it's be whether it's telepathy or speech. 94 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.600 Type E, which is a contact and confrontation without sighting 95 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:38.759 of the craft. Type F entity leaves the physical evidence, 96 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:43.120 such as footprints or hair. Oh, who'd have thought aliens 97 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:44.519 had hair? You know, you never hear about the hair 98 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:45.160 of the aliens. 99 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:47.199 I mean, most of. 100 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.360 The aliens we hear about don't have hair. But at 101 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.279 the same time, there is a school of thought. Now 102 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.800 I don't personally believe this, but that being said to 103 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.319 say that Sam squanch is a type of alien. 104 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.600 So point, we don't know if a squanch is. 105 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.839 An interdimensional tree being or an interdimensional planetary like, we 106 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:05.399 don't know. 107 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:07.720 But all right, yeah, I mean, who's to say we've 108 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:09.480 never seen a bigfoot to be able to say one 109 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.199 way or another kind of thing? You can only just 110 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.120 hear it from other people's stories. Type G the final one. 111 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:19.759 It says entity performs a specific action toward the witness. 112 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.360 So if you hear about like the weird, like the 113 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.160 weird types of astral surgery that are put on by 114 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:31.920 the mantis insectoids kind of stuff. So that's the the 115 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.000 close encounters of the third kind, the Close Encounters of 116 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.600 the fourth kind, which is a great show by the way, 117 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:39.920 or I think it was a documentary or something like that. 118 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.560 But so this would be an abduction or forced interaction 119 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:48.319 involving a person and alien entities. The common features would 120 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:53.680 be missing time, medical procedures, or implants. Oh, that might 121 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.399 be what he also experienced. I think it's third and 122 00:06:55.480 --> 00:07:00.959 fourth and also conscious or unconscious recalls sometimes recovered via 123 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.639 hypnosis and telepathic messages or memory downloads. So I believe 124 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.920 that this is rate up the alley of Chris Bledsoe 125 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.199 a lot of the things that he talks about. And 126 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.199 then ultimately, finally you have the close encounters of the 127 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:19.240 fifth kind, which is voluntary conscious communication or contact with 128 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.680 alien intelligence. So this would be what Stephen Greer talks 129 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.199 about and the technique. 130 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.240 Richard ger earlier, I meant to say, Steven, not Gerabile boy. 131 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.199 We talked about alien boy in my bad. 132 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:31.519 We knew what you meant. We knew what you meant. 133 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.360 But so that there are certain techniques to be able 134 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.720 to have this kind of close encounter of the fifth kind, 135 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.879 which I actually just talked about the other day on 136 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.560 Meta Mysteries. We talked about summoning aliens. It would be 137 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.439 through the CE five way, which would be through meditation 138 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:51.000 and intention setting, a use of coherent thought sequences, okay, 139 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:57.800 and group contact experience and field work. So human initiated contact, 140 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.879 peaceful interaction. Damn, they have a sixth kind and a 141 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:03.600 seventh kind. I've never heard of these. 142 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:06.600 Well, let's fucking learn together, brother, I've never heard of this. 143 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:07.959 Wow. Okay. 144 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.639 So the sixth kind would be a UFO encounter that 145 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.040 results in a death or injury to humans or animals. Oh, 146 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:17.959 let's be like cattle mutilation. 147 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.839 Okay, could be right, or one of these surgeries that 148 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.279 goes awry, or if there are craft lands on top 149 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:24.879 of a person. 150 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.560 I could see all these being possibilities. 151 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.240 The examples of the six kind would be burns, radiation, sickness, 152 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:36.799 and mysterious death. Also alleged military incidents alleged. 153 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.360 Funny how they just place that word right there. 154 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.240 Well, you know, it's both known and unknown, you know, But. 155 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.440 I mean that could be if like a fighter pilot 156 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:49.759 sees something that he can't understand, and so he gets 157 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:51.960 in to get a closer look at it, and for 158 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:54.679 some reason feels like it's a threat or some shit. 159 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.360 So the next thing, you know, the fire pilot gets 160 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.639 the clearance to take a shot at this thing and 161 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.039 then he gets his brain fry. That would be an 162 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.120 encounter of the sixth kind. I could see that as well. 163 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:08.519 Okay, oh yeah, well oh and then the seventh oh shit, 164 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.279 so the close encounters of the seventh kind, and then 165 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.399 it finally stops there. Oh my god, and it goes 166 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:14.720 all the way to ten. We're not going to read 167 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.360 all these fuck it yeah, learn it so much here, bro, 168 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.639 let's go all right, So the close encounters of the 169 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:26.120 seventh kind would be hybridization, involving the creation of a 170 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.639 human alien hybrid being hold. 171 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.600 Like an ovipositor, which is sex toy for that purpose. 172 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.960 But like, okay, yeah. 173 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:39.639 Well, the reports include sexual encounters or reproductive extraction. 174 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:43.960 We have had a guest on the show that has 175 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:46.120 claimed that this has happened to her. 176 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:47.200 Yes you did. 177 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:47.879 Yes. 178 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:54.480 Also parental connection to hybrid children fucking alien chimeras, dude. 179 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.960 It could be like your children from a past life 180 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.759 or a pair of well life or some kind of shit. 181 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.519 Maybe what the fuck? 182 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:08.720 Okay, all right, so we're already getting into the mind 183 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.039 blowing here. I mean, everything with aliens is considered mind blowing, 184 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.480 and I get that, but straight up, could you imagine 185 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.919 you and your wife you're chilling. Next thing, you know 186 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.440 she's pregnant, and you know it ain't from you because 187 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.039 you got snipped, but you also know that she ain't 188 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:25.440 cheating on you, and then this baby comes out half gray. 189 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.799 I mean, yeah, I like immaculate conception kind of shit. No, dude, 190 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.799 implanted by aliens is what I'm saying. 191 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:33.679 I know, immaculate. 192 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.559 They they abducted her in your sleep and gave her one, 193 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:38.440 put one in her. 194 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.799 I don't tomato fucking tomato, all right? 195 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:48.279 And then it says visions or interactions with hybrid offspring. 196 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.919 Oh my god, could you fucking imagine that you see 197 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.600 little You see a little gray alien who's calling you. 198 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.879 Daddy, Daddy Jacob, Daddy, Jacob, I'm your son. Did you 199 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:02.679 don't remember me? You forgot about me? How dare you? Dude? 200 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:04.159 You gonna fucking shoot that thing? 201 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:05.080 Boy? 202 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.039 Don't you come at me with that evil Ricky, Bobby? 203 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.440 Won't you put that evil on me? I don't know 204 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:12.360 how i'd feel about that. I'd be like back Waite 205 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:13.480 even get out of here. 206 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.639 You know what I'm saying. I'll find out if it's 207 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.480 bulletproof or not. We'll figure out the rest later. 208 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.480 So oh okay, yeah, And this says so this close encounters 209 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:24.000 of the seventh kind. It says it is common in 210 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:25.600 Whitley Streeber's work. 211 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:27.320 Day. 212 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:29.240 This guy's just encompassing a lot of them here. 213 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:34.200 The seventh kind is connected with Whitley Streep does he? 214 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:34.639 All? 215 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:34.840 Right? 216 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:36.639 Before we even get to let's read the rest of 217 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.480 the ten and then we're gonna figure out this guy's story. 218 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.559 Because I thought it was gonna be a third, maybe 219 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:45.159 a fourth, something along those lines, maybe one of those 220 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.200 subreddits of a letter designation. We're over here at the 221 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.679 seventh meaning either a he was impregnated, or he impregnated 222 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.120 an alien or his kid is half alien. I don't 223 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.679 even know. I don't know yet. I'm excited to learn more. 224 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:58.759 What's going on with number eight? 225 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.360 I guess we're gonna find I mean, does he have 226 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.320 a little hymn alien running around? Interdimensional? Could it be 227 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.120 from another planet? That's the thing, dude, Like, I feel 228 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:09.279 like a lot of this shit. And this is why 229 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.200 I always say that I believe that the aliens are 230 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.879 probably more likely interdimensional because it's like different realms of 231 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.519 fucking thought in realms, and like, you know, I don't know. 232 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.480 We're gonna keep on. It could be both. It very 233 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:24.240 well could be both. 234 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:29.720 So then you have optional fringe classifications, it says, and 235 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.759 this is where we get into close encounters of the eighth, ninth, 236 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:34.000 and tenth kind. 237 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:40.159 So the close encounters of the eighth now we're getting fringe. Well, 238 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:41.000 these otherything up. 239 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.440 Until this point is seen as regular, regular type shit. 240 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:45.399 Now we're getting into the fridge. 241 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.240 That's why. Oh, I see why it's fringe. 242 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.519 Okay, okay, So the close encounter of the eighth kind 243 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:55.679 would be time manipulation or dimensional travel, being taken to 244 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:56.559 other realms. 245 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:58.600 There's no way to prove this, you know. 246 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.480 Closing kount of the ninth kind would be integration or 247 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:07.919 enlightenment experiences such as total ego death, divine contact, or 248 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:10.240 merging with alien consciousness. 249 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:12.320 See why that's an. 250 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:13.639 Alien psychedelic trip. 251 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:16.720 Well, no, I think that would be close encounters of 252 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:17.240 the tenth kind. 253 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:21.240 Here here we go, Oh, okay, close encounter or the 254 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.679 tenth kind or ce x if we if we will 255 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:29.879 contact with non physical interdimensional beings that manifest only in 256 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.879 altered states, such as d MT realms or astral projections. 257 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:36.159 Wow. 258 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:42.440 Uh, Machino machine, I'm learning so much on this episode 259 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.919 already we are less than ten minutes, or less than 260 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:48.799 fifteen minutes, I should say, in and uh, I've never 261 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:51.080 heard of most of these classifications. 262 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.000 I'm glad we went through the list, though, I mean, 263 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:54.799 you know, I. 264 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:56.720 Hopkin it only went up to the fifth. I didn't 265 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:57.639 know about the other five. 266 00:13:59.039 --> 00:13:59.440 Wow. 267 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.039 Okay, all right, So with all of this understood and 268 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:06.559 out there, let's talk about our boy Whitley, and let's 269 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.559 figure out what exactly his story is, which of these. 270 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.039 Classifications he falls into. I'm fucking stoked man. 271 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:13.720 All right. 272 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.200 So I'm gonna read it to you almost like story mode. 273 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.360 And then once we get through the story of his 274 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.720 life and you know what he suggests he's gone through, 275 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:26.240 then we'll get into some of his books that he wrote. 276 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.519 So all of this happened, so he I believe he 277 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.360 was a filmmaker before all of this. He was a 278 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.519 really good storyteller, really good filmmaker. He was really into 279 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.039 like the horror type of films, and he was like 280 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.279 super into making those and then in nineteen eighty five 281 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:48.600 all at all like changed big time. He got abducted 282 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.279 in nineteen eighty five. But we're I don't want to 283 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.120 get ahead of ourselves here, We're going to get into 284 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:57.919 where it begins. So communion is what he calls it, 285 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:00.440 all right, And he wrote a book called can Union. 286 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.360 There was actually a movie called Communion, Bro. 287 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:06.480 And the guy that was playing Whitley Streeber in the 288 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.399 movie is oh what is his name? Almost stab you 289 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:14.639 in the face with a soudery iron Christopher Watkin, Christopher Walkin. 290 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.279 Oh wow, okay. 291 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.120 Young Christopher Walkin. 292 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.120 That movie came out in like eighty eight, eighty nine 293 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.960 something like I think it was eighty nine. Actually, wow, 294 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.559 you can actually you can actually watch that movie for 295 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.559 free on YouTube. I was watching like the first fifteen minutes. 296 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.200 I was like, holy shit, this movie's free on here. 297 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.120 It's pretty cool, no shit, all right, And you can 298 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.799 tell like it's you can tell it's like like a 299 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.159 an eighties movie, you know, like it's like dark and 300 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.759 grungy and shitty quality video and stuff like it's still 301 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.519 very mysterious. But you know, I was, I was kind 302 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:49.320 of skimming through it and like looking at some of 303 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:53.559 the like the props and the aliens and stuff like that, 304 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.600 and it's like, dude, you feel like, yeah, it's low budget. 305 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.840 Like you feel like you're almost watching like ET, but 306 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:02.639 like lower budget. 307 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:04.320 Hey, you be careful now. 308 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.519 ET was the one of Spielberg's greatest Although I'm fully 309 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.919 with you one hundred percent. It's you could tell the 310 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.960 movies that were kind of they're not indie, but they 311 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.600 very well could have been classified as an indie film. 312 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:17.879 You know, Yeah, I'm with you. 313 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.720 Yeah, it's almost like, so I grew up watching Power Rangers. 314 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.960 Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles was my shit growing up, right, 315 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.720 and nowadays, like if you go back and watch all 316 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.399 those old Power Rangers, you're like, did I fucking fall 317 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.840 for this? Because this is the fakest shit I've ever seen? 318 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.080 How How did I used to think that this was 319 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.200 so awesome and everything? And now you're watching You're like, dude, 320 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:42.480 this is the the shittiest fucking show ever put together 321 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.039 in history. Now, the movies, I will say, the Power 322 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.120 Rangers movies still go hard. But the TV show, my god, 323 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:49.519 that was like super low budget. 324 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.080 It looked like, oh, it was. 325 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.919 It was absolutely low budget. But I mean, that's the 326 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.000 thing when you're a kid, you see these fight scenes 327 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.399 were like they don't even come close to hitting the 328 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.000 bad guy's face and he goes fly with a backflip 329 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:04.440 and somehow sparks are flying from their hands and it's like, bro, 330 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:06.960 what But to six year old us, this. 331 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:08.960 Was the realest shit we'd ever fought. 332 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:13.640 Because, oh yeah, shout out to the Green Ranger aka 333 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:15.119 the White Ranger. 334 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:16.559 Rip Rip. 335 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.960 What was his name again, Tommy tom No, the name 336 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.480 of the show, the show. 337 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.319 No, Yeah, it's Tommy. But anyway, all right, let's get 338 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.000 to it. So we we we get into this whole 339 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.960 Whitley Streeber conspiracy it. So here we go tonight, we 340 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.160 step into the shadows, into the crack between worlds. We're 341 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.359 talking about one of the most bizarre, deeply disturbing, and 342 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.519 profoundly spiritual alien abduction cases ever recorded. This isn't just 343 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.720 lights in the sky, This isn't just missing time. This 344 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.880 is about being taken, broken open and shown the nature 345 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.240 of reality by something not human. 346 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.839 Whitley Streeber. He was a novelist. Is he's still alive? 347 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.200 I actually thought that he was dead because it happened 348 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:00.359 a while ago, you know, like this happened before I 349 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.960 was born, before we were both born. And so he 350 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:09.960 was was a novelist, experiencer controversial profit of the Unknown 351 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.880 claims that he was abducted by non human beings in 352 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:16.000 nineteen eighty five. But what makes this story different isn't 353 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.960 just the experience, it's how deep the rabbit hole goes, 354 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:24.480 from implants to secret teachings, government shadow games to mystical encounters. 355 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.720 Whitley Strieber's life is either the ultimate truth or the 356 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.799 ultimate deception. And I got to say, anytime the CIA 357 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:35.640 or governments are very interested in a person or inn, 358 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:38.720 a UFO case or an alien case or something like that, 359 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:42.240 I'm I'm all the more intrigued. Like that's why I'm 360 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.960 so fascinated about Chris Bledsoe. Dude, all of the big 361 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:52.119 government government entities are so interested. They've shown so much 362 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.599 interest into Chris Bledsoe. It's like one of the most 363 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:58.720 documented cases, if not the most documented case of all time. 364 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.000 Like the amount of research done into Chris Blood, so 365 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.920 Willie Streeber is that level. 366 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.200 He was very well documented. 367 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.400 And dude, they took him to go get a scan 368 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.119 of his fucking brain because he kept on saying that 369 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:15.759 he felt like an implant behind his ear after this abduction. 370 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.319 And this is this is where it gets kind of 371 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:20.880 crazy because a lot of a lot of alien abduction 372 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:22.519 stories they always talk about an implant. 373 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.880 Remember we went over that. 374 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.559 Like a couple of years ago and showed like a 375 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.000 couple of the cat scans and X rays and stuff 376 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.440 like that about how people literally have implants. Well, so 377 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.160 this guy he gets implanted and nobody believes him, but 378 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:39.759 the CIA takes an interest and they actually send him 379 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.000 to a doctor and we're gonna get into that whole story, 380 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:44.440 but they send him to a doctor to get scanned, 381 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:48.279 and nevertheless, like there's something behind his ear. They don't 382 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.000 know how it got there, there's no incision mark or anything. 383 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.920 The CIA was like trying to get him to take 384 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:55.559 it out so they can study it, and he was like, no, 385 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.359 you ain't taking that shit out. Like he feels connected 386 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.359 to it now. So it's like a alien integration almost. 387 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.759 So yeah, this is going to be a wild ass story, dude. 388 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:08.960 So let's go back. 389 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.599 So this is before the visitors, who was Whitley Streeber 390 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:17.319 Before the visitors. Willy Streeber wasn't just some fringe lunatic 391 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.759 screaming about aliens in the desert. He was a New 392 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.960 York Times a New York Times bestselling author, respected successful. 393 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.480 He was living in Manhattan with his wife, Anne and 394 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.880 their son. He was born in nineteen forty five in 395 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:33.640 San Antonio, Texas. Whitley grew up Catholic, educated and steeped 396 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.720 in traditional values. He went to the University of Texas 397 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.759 and later the London School of Film Technique. He was 398 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.240 a smart guy, rational. In the seventies and eighties, he 399 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:47.000 hit it big with horror novels like The Wolfing about 400 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:51.079 shape shifting wolf creatures stalking New York City, and another 401 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.799 movie called The Hunger, which was a seductive vampire tale, 402 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.160 later adopted into a film starring David Bowie. So he 403 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.039 was already into the shape shifting wolves and the vampires. 404 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:03.519 That's the kind of shit that he was into. 405 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:03.880 You know. 406 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.880 He was never really talking about the alien kind of stuff, 407 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.559 just like you know, old lore kind of stuff. 408 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:10.559 Yeah. 409 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.799 So he wasn't a crank. He was a storyteller with 410 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:17.079 a serious career. But in nineteen eighty five everything changed 411 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:20.480 and It all started in a remote cabin in upstate 412 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:21.039 New York. 413 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:24.759 Okay. That reminds me, dude. 414 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:26.880 Whenever we went to Brogrove last year and I was 415 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:30.160 really really on the idea of buying this cabin in 416 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.440 the woods, and then what was hobo, Hobo Jimmy or 417 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:36.160 something like that, hippie Jimmy. 418 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:40.240 Hippie Jimmy, hobo, Sorry, hippie Jimmy. I mean, a fucking 419 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.480 guy was not wearing shoes, you know what I mean, six. 420 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.200 One half dozen in the other they're hippies. 421 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.119 It's basically hobo's with tydeye, like, let's be real. 422 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.880 You're not wrong, You're not wrong. So anyway, he was, 423 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.240 he's known as a traveler, you know. But but me 424 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.519 and Nick were talking to hippie Jimmy and he goes 425 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.839 just out of nowhere. He's like, you know what, I 426 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.680 One thing I gotta tell you, dude, is one of 427 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.160 the worst mistakes I ever made was moving into a 428 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.759 cabin in the middle of the woods all by myself. 429 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:08.799 Never do that. Don't ever do that. He says that 430 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.200 out in the middle of nowhere. Meanwhile, that whole trip, 431 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.039 I was talking to you, and I was talking to 432 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:15.559 Nick about this cabin that I was looking at in Texas, 433 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:17.640 right deep in the middle of the woods, no neighbors 434 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.799 or anything around. So I heard that story and I 435 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:21.759 was like, I'm just gonna take it as a sign 436 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.079 I'm not getting that fucking cabin. 437 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.680 Then look hindsight twenty twenty, thank god that he said that, 438 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.279 because look at where your life is currently with everything 439 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.160 going on right If you were in the middle of 440 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:35.880 trying to move into this cabin or get approved for 441 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:37.960 that and all of this with everything else you got 442 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:40.559 going on right now, that would have fucking ruined you, 443 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:42.839 oh dude, and then you'd be stuck with this cabin 444 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:44.440 that nobody wanted, which is why I was on the 445 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:45.279 market for the way it was. 446 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.119 It would just yeah, yeah, Jimmy was on one. 447 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:51.200 Jimmy was definitely on one for sure. 448 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:55.039 So this guy also, you know, he's talking about how 449 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.519 he was he was in a cabin in the middle 450 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:02.279 of the woods essentially. So this happens in December twenty sixth, 451 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:06.359 the day after Christmas in nineteen eighty five, so it 452 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.079 was just after Christmas. Whitley and his family were at 453 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.160 their vacation cabin nestled in the woods, a peaceful setting 454 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.240 until the night of December twenty sixth. That's when Strieber 455 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.400 says that he was taken in the middle of the night. 456 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.079 He woke up in a state of absolute horror, paralyzed 457 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.480 a terror. He was terror filled a strange presence in 458 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.640 the room. He couldn't move, he couldn't scream. The room 459 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:31.200 seemed filled with an electrical buzz, like the static charge 460 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:35.440 before lightning hits. Then came the figures, small humanoid with 461 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.839 large black eyes, not the classic gray is exactly. Some 462 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:42.680 were different. One tall being had a narrow, almost insect 463 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.839 like face. Another was squat and robotic. He felt them 464 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:51.039 touch him, He felt something inserted at Whenever I first 465 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:52.359 read that, I was like, in sorry, are we talking 466 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:53.240 about butt probes here? 467 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.240 But no ib to say nose, belly, buttons stabbed in 468 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:56.920 anal probe? 469 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:58.039 What are we talking about here? 470 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:01.400 That's the behind the ear thing right on the temple 471 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.119 or no, that's not the temple. 472 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.759 What is that back there? That pressure point right behind 473 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:06.799 your ear? What is that one called? 474 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:09.119 I know what it's called, but I know that it hurts. 475 00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.759 Whenever you got that the thumb shoved up in it 476 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.119 right dude, that's. 477 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.119 Not like one of the worst ones. 478 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.039 So he felt he felt it inserted right behind his ear, 479 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.359 and he remembered floating, He remembered a needle in his brain. 480 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.160 This was no dream, he says it was. He was 481 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.319 changed by it. He says it broke his mind and 482 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.400 his reality. That seems like a fucking damn t trip, bro, doesn't. 483 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.079 It kind of. 484 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.960 Kind of So imagine waking up and seeing something that 485 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.799 your brain isn't supposed to Uh, I'm sorry that your 486 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.279 brain says isn't supposed to exist. 487 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:47.680 Do you lose your mind? Or do you wake up 488 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.440 to something greater? So? After go ahead, did you want 489 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:50.880 to say something? 490 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.240 I'm just curious here. So he was in this cabin. 491 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:54.839 I don't know if he was living there. If you 492 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.319 just it was just a vacation for a camping trip, 493 00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.279 right whatever? Glamping instead of camping? 494 00:24:59.519 --> 00:24:59.720 Cool? 495 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.160 Did he see a craft land? Was he in bed 496 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.039 and woke up with these things on top of him? 497 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.319 I like, to what level did this just happen? 498 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.000 I believe he was laying down, So I think that 499 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.279 this is a what is it called sleep paralysis? 500 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:16.680 Oh shit? 501 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.400 Okay, yeah, I believe it was a street paralysis because 502 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.599 it said that he couldn't say anything, he couldn't move. 503 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.519 It's that's like telltale signs of a sleep paralysis. And 504 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.880 also he was the only one to experience it at 505 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:32.960 that time, I believe. And that's why, you know, because 506 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.559 you got to imagine he was alone, right, No, his 507 00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:36.400 family was with him. 508 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.720 Oh I thought he was alone in the cabin my bed. 509 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.759 Yeah, his family went up there with him. So yeah, 510 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.079 I mean, it's fucking wild, dude. But after the incident, 511 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.400 he was obviously shaken, and not in a I had 512 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.279 a weird dream type of way. He was physically ill, disoriented, 513 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.119 he couldn't sleep, he kept replaying strange images. But but 514 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.279 what was worse, there was missing time, hours that he 515 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:01.960 that he couldn't have out for. He turned to hypnosis, 516 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:06.720 as a lot of et experiencers do. They turned to hypnosis, 517 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:09.640 and sometimes that tells the story. Sometimes, you know, it's 518 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:12.359 hard to tell, like, how do you prove hypnosis? And 519 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.519 I'm a hypnotherapist, how do I prove that you actually 520 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:16.680 experienced a past life? 521 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:18.640 I can't, there's no way of doing that. 522 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.920 But for some reason, the story's there, and so this 523 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.599 is he ends up doing the hypnosis, and that's when 524 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.920 the memories flooded back. He saw himself being led through 525 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.799 metallic hallways, He saw strange instruments. He heard a voice 526 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.680 inside of his head, not speaking in words, but thoughts. 527 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.519 He was told things that he couldn't understand but felt 528 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:44.720 were important, ancient and cosmic. Really described the beings as 529 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:49.440 conducting something akin to medical procedures, but spiritual, not clinical. 530 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.799 They were interested in his soul, not just his body. 531 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.599 And then the dream started. Dreams of the world ending, 532 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.799 of skies cracking open, of a flood of consciousness washing 533 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.640 over humanity. He didn't know what was real anymore. This 534 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.119 is how I would imagine that alien contact would happen, 535 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.680 I mean, just me personally, Like I feel like it 536 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.799 would literally shake everything you thought you knew, you know, 537 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.759 Like I get this. 538 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:19.200 But that's the thing. 539 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.480 This this Now we're talking about him in a dream, 540 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.599 or at least within his own mind. 541 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.240 He's seeing these things play out, right, Well. 542 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.240 He's yeah, the the dreams are almost like like dream 543 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.880 prophecy kind of thing. Actually electro. Nick talks about this 544 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.680 a lot. And dude, he's been keeping the receipts. So 545 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.759 anytime Nick has like a dream. He'll document it on Facebook. 546 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:43.400 I don't know if you've been seeing this, but every 547 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.119 single time something like major crazy event happens, like super 548 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:52.000 specific crazy event happens, like Nick just shares it and 549 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.000 then he shares the post that he shared two or 550 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.759 three years ago from the dream that he had, and 551 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.799 they perfectly correlate. 552 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.440 So what the fuck is that, dude, that I can't 553 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.680 call it? To be honest with you, I don't know. 554 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.759 I love it though, I think it's so fascinating. So then, 555 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.920 so he had this whole experience, He had all these wild, 556 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.200 almost prophetic type of dreams, and so he decided to 557 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.400 write a book about it, and that book was called Communion. 558 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.480 And you know what, as a matter of fact, I'm 559 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.519 going to play a little clip from the interview that 560 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.960 he had with Danny Jones. Shout out to Danny Jones, dude, 561 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.680 one of the best podcasters in the game. So I 562 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:35.319 want to share this real quick, and here we go. 563 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.200 So this is him at This is Whitley Streeber right now. 564 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.160 I think this this episode was not that long ago. 565 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.720 And this is him talking about the alien implant, which 566 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.880 was like three and a half minutes long. But super 567 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.599 interesting to hear him talk about it. So I kind 568 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:54.400 of wanted to bring some of his and maybe we'll 569 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.680 eventually get him on as a guest one day. I 570 00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.920 in preparation for this show, I just assumed that he 571 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.799 wasn't around anymore, as most of these like alien experiencers are, 572 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.359 and because it happened a while ago and everything. But 573 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.519 now that I know that he's alive, we're gonna definitely 574 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:10.200 try and get him on. But this is in his 575 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.079 own words, speaking about the alien implant to Danny Jones. 576 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:13.640 Check it out. 577 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.880 Okay, the visitors, the grades, oh, you know, people that 578 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:18.799 are connected to them? 579 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.880 Of course, Oh I am. It's an implant. That's what 580 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:27.000 it is. That's why what the implant in my ear is. 581 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.279 It'll turn on during the interview and you'll be talking 582 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.279 to me and to them. 583 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.200 You don't have an implant to pull my leg. 584 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.559 No, I'm not telling you the truth. You don't know 585 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.039 about it. You never read the. 586 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:40.160 Books I read Communion. 587 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:41.720 Oh okay, you've only read Communion. 588 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:42.680 You've only read Communion. 589 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.680 Okay, yeah, I have this. 590 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.359 Well, i'll tell you the story. 591 00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.880 I'll just give you a brief precis now perfect it 592 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.640 was put in in nineteen eighty nine. I was wide 593 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.880 awake when it was done. Was done by two people people. 594 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:56.960 There's a whole lot of people who are connected with 595 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.079 the visitors are connected with them, and these were two 596 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:05.359 of them. I couldn't use it for years, but after 597 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.799 my wife died it began to become useful and it 598 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.720 now is my absolute go to. It's like having an 599 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.319 unbelievable AI, only whatever's on the other side of it 600 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:23.359 is not artificial but brilliant. It works with me when 601 00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:27.720 I'm writing at three o'clock every morning, I get up 602 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:33.359 and there's a dialogue that goes on. It's not like channeling. 603 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:39.039 It's much more direct than that. It's very direct, and 604 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.920 during interviews it will be working most of the time. 605 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.000 Can you see it behind your feel it? Yeah? You 606 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.759 can feel it right here. Yeah. Have you ever had 607 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.640 a doctor look at it? 608 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.319 Absolutely? I've got an MRI scan of it. In fact, 609 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.839 I'll send it to you on my FILT. I mean 610 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.640 a CT scan of it. That CT scan was done 611 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.200 by some one in the CIA what who wanted it 612 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:08.039 very badly to be taken out, but I wouldn't let him. 613 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.799 Yeah, how did you get a CT scan done by 614 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:12.319 somebody in No. 615 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.319 No, it was done. 616 00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:17.160 The CT scan was done privately at his request by 617 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.440 a doctor who he called and sat up. 618 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.920 Okay, how did you get How did a CIA person 619 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:33.000 get to find out about your implant? 620 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.720 I'm known to them, to the IC to be a 621 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.359 legitimate close encounter witness, and they are interested in that. 622 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.359 Why do you think the CIA is so interested in 623 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.880 people who have had close encounters? 624 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.160 Well, you know, I think they kind of backed into 625 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:55.599 it because their brief is foreign intelligence and this is 626 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.480 about as foreign as foreign intelligence can get. And when 627 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:06.359 the CIA was first founded, the Roswell incident occurred, the 628 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.119 Army Air Corps became the Air Force, and the CIA 629 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.799 was founded, and the National Security Act was passed all 630 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.920 in the same few months. And this was like July 631 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.279 July forty seventh, July to October of forty seven, and 632 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.359 so all the infrastructure was then in place, and I 633 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.400 think it was just a very natural thing that CIA 634 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:34.279 would be the go to agency to study this. 635 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.279 Bro what do you think about that? 636 00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:42.119 I'm going. 637 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.599 I know it sounds wild on the surface, right, like, because. 638 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.880 Honey, yes, kind of no, kind of yes, kind of no. 639 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.559 Right, this it makes sense to me that the CIA 640 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.920 would take a special interest in, for lack of better words, 641 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.960 let's call them, I want to say victims, because now 642 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.799 everybody who has a exposure to extraterrestrials or whatever you 643 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.640 want to call them, not all of them are negative. Right, Yeah, 644 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.319 so I don't want to call it victims, but let's say, uh, 645 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.039 case studies or whatever. You put whatever tidle you want 646 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:18.559 on this, Right, it makes sense to me that the 647 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.599 CIA would take a special interest in this group, and 648 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.920 maybe not even the CIA directly, maybe one of their 649 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.079 like sub units, right, like the uh, what was the one, 650 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:32.519 the North American Aeronautic Phenomena Association, or what basically the 651 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.079 Men in Black? Right, it would make perfect sense to 652 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.079 me that some sort of acronymic government agency would come 653 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.039 in and want to talk to this guy and do 654 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.799 some scans on them. 655 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:42.680 We're doing something. 656 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.000 It actually brings that up that group that we've actually 657 00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.079 talked about that group in the past, like the real 658 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:48.839 men in Black. 659 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:51.759 Yeah, it's uh, he mentions them. 660 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.759 But and I don't want to start throwing shade because 661 00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.039 I'm not. But it's also I find it odd that 662 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.960 this would happen to a horror movie writer, or a 663 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.200 horror movie author, or a horror book author. 664 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.440 Movie screenwriter, all these things. 665 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.360 It's like somebody who already has a pretty wild imagination 666 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:13.480 from the rip. 667 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.920 Now, I'm not saying that that takes credibility away. 668 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.679 I am just saying that I could see why people 669 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:20.519 that would be calling this like a hoax or some 670 00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.639 shit would instantly say, well. 671 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.840 Of course it happened to him. 672 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.800 But I mean that also, that's not a necessary you know, 673 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:29.840 correlation here. 674 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:30.559 Two. 675 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.320 And conversely, you could actually make an argument that if 676 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:39.519 the aliens are as intelligent as many people believe they are, 677 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.000 wouldn't you go after somebody like that to be able 678 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.559 to kind of spread the word, somebody who's already well known, 679 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.519 somebody who might put pen to paper and talk about it, 680 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.199 might write a movie script. And you know, I'm just like, 681 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:53.480 I guess. 682 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.000 They want to be talked about, if they want to 683 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.360 be exposed, and if they want humanity to know that 684 00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:57.760 they're here. 685 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.239 And that's I can see that that's the message. That's 686 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.599 the message that we're talking about here, is that that's 687 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.000 what they want. They want to be known, and that 688 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.800 actually leads us into our next video. 689 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.480 This, wait real quick, he said, humans implanted that into 690 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:14.679 his head, not. 691 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:19.079 Aliens, No no, no, no, no, not humans. The aliens implanted 692 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:20.320 into his head. 693 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.320 And there was human beings that are also connected to 694 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:25.840 them took him and implanted this. 695 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.360 Maybe I'm misunderstood from what. 696 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.480 I don't I don't remember hearing that, But from what 697 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.280 I understood, it was actually the aliens that implanted it, 698 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.719 and it was the humans that were interested in taking 699 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:36.719 it out to be. 700 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:37.480 Able to observe it. 701 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.119 So and this, and this is going to go a 702 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.519 little bit deeper into the implantation. So and this is 703 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.320 gonna this is gonna get kind of wild, but it's 704 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.880 already there, so let's just go there, all right, all right. 705 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.320 I was gonna call it body terror because it was 706 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.239 so physically terrifying, And she said. 707 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.079 Sorry, So I'm sorry, little contacts about this. This is 708 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.800 about whenever he's getting ready to write his book called Communion, 709 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.760 which is the first book that came out after his experience, 710 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.000 and this was the movie that was inevitably created with 711 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.280 Christopher Walkin. But and so he's a writer, you know, 712 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.039 so he's already pretty well versed in how to you know, 713 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:20.840 construct a book and a story and all that kind 714 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.119 of stuff, And so he was thinking about, well, what 715 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.159 am I going to name this? Because there was like 716 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:27.920 some horrific experiences, but then there was also some like 717 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.880 really nice, kind of blissful experiences. And I guess he 718 00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:38.559 was communicating somehow with the aliens or something along those lines, 719 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.639 and he's trying to like ask them, what should I 720 00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:42.119 call it? 721 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.280 You know, how what direction should I go here? 722 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:46.920 You know? 723 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:48.880 And this is where we pick up. 724 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:51.599 I was going to call it body terror because it 725 00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:56.840 was so physically terrifying, and she said no quickly. One night, 726 00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:02.800 when she was half asleep, she suddenly says, Quiddley, call 727 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.880 the book communion because that's what it's about, and that 728 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:13.599 is the defining reality. Here can we do it? And 729 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.559 another part of that reality? Come? 730 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.719 Oh, sorry about that? I got that mixed up with 731 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.760 another story. This was not an alien that was talking 732 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.000 to him. This is his wife that was telling him 733 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.599 that they were going back and forth about what they 734 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:24.159 were going to call it. 735 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:25.760 Sorry about that, I got Just to clarify. 736 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:31.960 It's from Colonel Philip Corso. Phil Corso who had an 737 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:38.119 encounter in New Mexico where he was asked by the 738 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.719 visitors to turn off some radars so they could safely 739 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.880 leave a cave that they were in, and to turn 740 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.400 them off for ten minutes, and he said, well, in 741 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.159 my profession, ten minutes can be a long time, which 742 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:56.320 is quite an understatement. And what's in it for us? 743 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.960 And the answer is the defining reality of this along 744 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.719 with the word communion, the answer was a new world 745 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.360 if you can take it, and that means if you 746 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:14.079 can rest it out of our hands, if you can 747 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.480 bear it, if you can stand it, if you can 748 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:23.119 understand it, if you can steal it, beg for it, 749 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.079 buy it, borrow it. However, there's a new world waiting 750 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.840 for us, and that world that circles back to Communion 751 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.519 because it is in that level of relationship that this 752 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.239 new world is going to come. Because what will happen 753 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.559 to us is that all kinds of abilities that we 754 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.440 see the visitors in possession of that look like magic 755 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.480 to us will become part of us as well. 756 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.199 Okay, so this is what he's talking about, and that's 757 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.679 why the book is called Communion because essentially it's like 758 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.559 you know, when you hear about this kind of stuff 759 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:05.360 with like even within religion. You know, well, who was 760 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.280 it that said that one day there's going to be 761 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.760 a new heaven and a new earth? Right, and then 762 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.119 there's even Dolores Cannon talks about it. There's going to 763 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.280 be a new Earth and it's just gonna be it's 764 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.440 gonna be kind of the same, but very different in 765 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.039 the way that we perceive it, in the way that 766 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.840 we act according with it. And that's what he was 767 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:23.320 talking about. And so that's why he wanted to call 768 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:27.079 the book Communion, because it's not necessarily that you're just 769 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.320 gonna blip onto another place. It's that it's going to 770 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.440 integrate into who you are, into what everything else is, 771 00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.519 and it's going to be essentially like an advancement of humanity. 772 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.159 And I know that sounds like kind of woo woo 773 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.079 and kind of crazy, But now we're going to get 774 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.280 into the rest of the story and maybe give what 775 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.559 he's saying a little bit more context. Okay, So all right, 776 00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.000 so he wrote the book called Communion. So in nineteen 777 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.079 eighty seven, Whitley published Communion. He didn't know if anyone 778 00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.920 would believe him, but the book blew up the now 779 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.840 famous cover pale face with giant black Eyes burned itself 780 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.320 into the public consciousness. It became the definitive image of 781 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.920 a gray alien. But Communion wasn't a typical UFO book. 782 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.239 It was deeply psychological. Streeber wasn't just trying to prove 783 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:18.239 aliens existed. He was exploring the trauma of the contact, 784 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.639 the way that these experiences tear apart your sense of self, 785 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:26.360 reality and truth. The book was terrifying, intimate at times, 786 00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.800 it was spiritual. He described the visitors as not just aliens, 787 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:36.199 but possibly something beyond our understanding, time travelers, interdimensional beings, angels, demons. 788 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.360 He didn't know what the fuck they were. What's wild 789 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.599 is that after publishing Communion, Willie Streeber received thousands of 790 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.119 letters from people all over the world saying that they 791 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.639 had experienced the same thing, but they were too scared 792 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.079 to talk about it until they read his words. And 793 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.119 so for many Streeber became kind of a prophet to 794 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.519 these kind of people like this, so you can understand, 795 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.119 you know, this is why it's so important to talk 796 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:04.760 about your stories, dude, you know, like and even like 797 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.360 even for example, my story about the mushrooms and the 798 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.400 elohem and stuff like that, dude, I can't tell you 799 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.159 how many fucking people have reached out to me and 800 00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.760 said that a very similar thing happened to them. That 801 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.039 was that, dude, that's me telling that story is what 802 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.360 got Electro Nick to reach out to us. 803 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.559 You know what I'm saying, Like, and people like. 804 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.840 That, like you sound crazy whenever you talk about it, 805 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.000 like you sound like you're fucking losing your mind. 806 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.800 But no, one hundred percent agree with you, dude. I mean, 807 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.400 it's the same with like my demon's story. 808 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:31.719 Right. 809 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:33.400 For the longest time, I didn't want to talk about 810 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.719 it for a number of reasons. But ever since I 811 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.719 spoke on it and released that, I've had so many 812 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.079 people to throw love my way and hatred my way 813 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.639 because there is a group of people out there to say, 814 00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:49.719 for a demon to be tormenting you and for an 815 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.800 angel to come to your intercession, that can't happen biblically speaking, 816 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.400 because blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, Okay, 817 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.559 you can have that opinion. That's cool. I'm not like 818 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.039 here to argue or debate this week you. But then 819 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.000 so many more people have come out and said, oh, 820 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.079 I had a very similar experience, and this happened, and 821 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.599 this happened, So yeah, I went with you one hundred percent. 822 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.400 This guy speaking on it and writing a book about it, 823 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.239 I absolutely believe that this would validate a lot of 824 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:18.000 people's experiences that they couldn't speak on or they were 825 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.159 afraid of speaking on it for fear of retribution or 826 00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:20.719 something like that. 827 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:21.440 One hundred percent. 828 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.920 And how is it so that, like whenever somebody speaks 829 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.079 about it, I mean, think about it like this, people 830 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.800 who speak about gray aliens, it's always pretty much the 831 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.840 same story about them. They're always described in very similar 832 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:41.400 ways and similarly like Pleadians or Octorians or Andromedons or 833 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:45.599 Reptilians or fucking you name them, the Nordics whatever. It's 834 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.719 like everybody that experiences them talks about the same exact 835 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.280 characteristics and traits, like as far as they look, and 836 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:56.639 the message and how they're communicating and how it changed 837 00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.159 their reality and it changed their perception of everything. You know, Oh, 838 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.360 it's always such similar stories. Now, those could be grifters. 839 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.360 Maybe they heard a story and they were like, oh, 840 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.039 you know what, I'm gonna describe this story. But I 841 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.000 don't think that I don't think there's that many grifters. 842 00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.239 I mean, yes, there's absolutely a lot of grifters out there. 843 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:15.800 Don't get me wrong. 844 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:17.679 There's a lot of Charlatan's. There's a lot of people 845 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.559 that just want to get famous in some kind of way. 846 00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.000 Some people are just lonely, and so they make up 847 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.239 these stories and so that they can be involved into 848 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.480 some kind of community and now they have a similar 849 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.159 experience to somebody who actually did experience it. And it's like, 850 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.320 there's definitely a lot of people full of shit out there. 851 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.039 You'll always run the risk of that, especially with something 852 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.519 that is this fantastic, right, something that is this so 853 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.639 far out of the box and all that, You're gonna 854 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.760 have copycats. You're gonna have people that are trying to 855 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.719 like coattail it and get their own little fifteen minutes 856 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.639 of fame for it. But I gotta say it's the 857 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.199 same thing as I feel about towards psychics and shit 858 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.079 like that. True psychics are not worried about their fifteen 859 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.800 minutes of fame because this is their daily life. This 860 00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.199 is something they can't turn on and off. The ones 861 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.199 are out there, look at me and what I can do. 862 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.440 I feel like that's more grifter than not. I can't 863 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.559 say that with one hundred percent certainty, but it feels 864 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.559 like there's a spirit of grifter mentality with it. People 865 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:14.760 with true alien experiences, if they are spreading awareness, Okay, 866 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:15.760 I'm with you. 867 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.039 I'm I'm not gonna say that they're immediately a grifter. 868 00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.880 If it's somebody who is trying to do everything they 869 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.480 can to market it, that's kind of looking kind of 870 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.079 GRIFTERI ish to me, I don't know. 871 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.559 A little bit, but I don't even the more I 872 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.519 look into this kind of stuff. Even the people that 873 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.119 write books or make movies or even I don't give 874 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:35.760 a fuck if they make a dollar off of it. 875 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.840 Like if if somebody can listen to it and connect 876 00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.159 to the story, I mean, that's that's the most important thing. 877 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.599 And like even like psychics. 878 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:47.119 I mean, and I've talked to a lot of psychics 879 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.880 over on meta mysteries, and some some are a little 880 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.000 bit more connected than others. I'm not gonna say, you 881 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.800 know that they're they're grifters, or they're fakes or whatever, 882 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.960 but I will say that, like just whenever people think 883 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.599 about a psychic, dude, it doesn't work. Work how you 884 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.000 think it works like it is, and it's not always 885 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:08.440 spot on, you know. It's sometimes they're close, sometimes they're 886 00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.719 they're connecting to some other kind of information or whatever. 887 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.639 And some people are very new and they're learning about 888 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.760 how to be a psychic, and you know, and and 889 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:22.000 just stuff like that. And so I don't want to 890 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.639 say that, you know, psychic. Some people are, I guess, 891 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:26.840 are born being a psychic, you know from what you hear. 892 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.880 You hear about certain stories like that, but then you 893 00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.079 hear other people that like it's a learned thing, you know, 894 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.519 like maybe maybe you had a little spark, and I 895 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.079 think that we all kind of got that little spark. 896 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.559 I think that if you have an imagination and if 897 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.719 you have some kind of spiritual connection to the all 898 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.880 that is, then maybe that's how it's really being done. 899 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:46.280 You know. 900 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.840 It's it's not so much like nuts and bolts of 901 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.320 like is there a certain gene that this person have. 902 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:53.719 I don't think that that's what it is. 903 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.840 I think that that gene would be literally whatever is 904 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.599 our connection to the universe or to God or whatever. 905 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.320 That's that's my perception of it. 906 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.679 I use the term throughout psychics as an example right, 907 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.039 I can't speak with any kind of authority on the matter. 908 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.280 I'm completely speaking from a place of ignorance. 909 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.760 But there's been so many people that have come forward 910 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.400 and said that they had an alien experience, they saw 911 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.199 a flying tic tac, They have a video of this 912 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.039 thing flying in the sky that they can't explain. 913 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:23.639 They don't get rich off of that. 914 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.199 Yeah, that clip might go viral, and that will be 915 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.199 the only thing that goes viral, and like, that's it. 916 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.000 I am more likely to believe that video than somebody 917 00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.480 who claims to be an expert in UFOology and all 918 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.800 these other things. But then again, when those experts can 919 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.400 come forward and back their claims and show receipts and 920 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.039 show how and why they got involved with this, like 921 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.400 the Bledsoe's for instance, he's able to call them down 922 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.760 on a regular basis. It's like, Okay, he wasn't trying 923 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.239 to make money off of this twenty years ago when 924 00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:57.320 he started having this I want to use the term ability. 925 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.920 But whenever this really started to pick up like momentum 926 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.039 for him, he wasn't trying to get famous. 927 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.760 If anything, he was trying to keep it a secret. 928 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.360 Oh dude, and That's the thing is that, you know, 929 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.039 there's been many of stories about how he's able to 930 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.760 put hands on people and heal them, like, and that's 931 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.920 what's crazy about it. 932 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.920 I haven't heard that yet. You're the only one I've 933 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.000 heard that says this about him. 934 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:18.920 Yeah he uh, he actually talked about that on the 935 00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:19.920 Sean Ryan episode. 936 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:21.000 Wow. 937 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.519 Yeah, And like he doesn't even like to really say 938 00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.159 that kind of stuff because then you'll start getting fucking 939 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.239 people out the woodworks. 940 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:30.360 Hey my little daughter. 941 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.079 Has cancer, Hey my son is blind, or you know 942 00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.360 what i mean, Like, and you can't help everybody. You're 943 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.880 not gonna have a fucking life kind of thing, you know, 944 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.559 like and so, And I'm sure he feels bad about 945 00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:43.400 that because what if what if he actually does have 946 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:44.079 that ability? 947 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.119 You know, like, what if you had that ability? 948 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.119 I'm sure, like you know, you would be happy to help, 949 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.280 But dude, you still gotta fucking pay bills, You still 950 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.079 got to spend time with your family, You still got 951 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:55.400 to go to work, you know what I mean, you 952 00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.239 still got all these other things. And if you got 953 00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.159 a fucking a thousand people lined up outside of your 954 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.960 house every day, I mean, it almost turns into a 955 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.440 fucking job. And at that point, I don't I mean, 956 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.480 how much healing does one have? Does it run out? 957 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.920 You know? Do you have to regenerate it? Is it 958 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:11.480 like a chi kind of thing. I don't know. 959 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.119 If I had that ability, I would be using it 960 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.159 to spread a ministry. But that's just me with my 961 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.880 background and all of that, you know what I mean. 962 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.920 But like that's my point though, Bledsoe. I'm not saying 963 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.239 he's a grifter or his family or any of these things. 964 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.280 But what I'm saying is he was very private about 965 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.679 it for the longest time, and he's even still kind 966 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:33.519 of like shelled in certain regards to certain aspects of it. 967 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.159 That makes me believe him a little bit more than 968 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.159 the guy who's like trying to become insta famous for 969 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.119 a abduction that he claims that nobody else can verify 970 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:43.519 that kind of thing. And I'm not saying that this 971 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.000 is what our guy Whitley Streeper had going on, right, 972 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.920 I'm just saying there's you could tell that there's a 973 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.519 spirit of grifter with some people full on Charlatanism. It's 974 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.000 for the story, it's for their fifteen minutes of fame, 975 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:56.880 and there are some people that are actually like, listen, 976 00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.280 this is just information that needs to get out there. 977 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.000 Yeah, and you can oftentimes tell if somebody's telling the 978 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.960 truth by all the bullshit that they have to go 979 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.440 through just to be able to have a platform to 980 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.079 tell the truth. You know, like Chris Bledsoe for example, Dude, 981 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.400 he was fucking segregated from the rest of his family 982 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.400 for years, Like he wasn't invited to Thanksgiving and Christmas, 983 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.199 and every time that he you know, his kids would 984 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.119 go to school, that his kids would get made fun of, 985 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.960 you know, his his own like family and parents would 986 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:29.920 make fun of him. Oh, your dad's out there doing 987 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.519 drugs and seeing little green aliens. 988 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:32.079 Huh. 989 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.079 You know, like that's and so I don't know, I'm 990 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.599 less inclined to believe that that's grifter shit. 991 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.920 You know, I'm with you, I am, And like I said, 992 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:43.480 I'm not saying that is what Whitley is experiencing by 993 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:47.000 any means. It's it sounds terrifying in a certain regard, 994 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.000 but it also sounds. 995 00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:49.360 Like he's at peace with it. But he's also had 996 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.440 decades to get there. 997 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.119 So let's learn more about this man. 998 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:58.920 So, after the Communion Book was released, Whitley wasn't done, dude. 999 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.840 He kept on right and writing and writing, trying to 1000 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.039 dive deeper into what this whole thing was really about, 1001 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.239 you know, and sometimes you know, writing, you know, especially 1002 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.400 back then, writing is as therapeutic as podcasting is to 1003 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:13.320 us nowadays. 1004 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:13.719 You know. 1005 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.960 That's the kind of way I like to look at it. 1006 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.639 But in fact, the real revelations weren't were just the beginning. 1007 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.840 So in his follow up books called Transformation that came 1008 00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:25.840 out in eighty eight and Breakthrough that came out in 1009 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.440 ninety five, and then The Secret School, which came out 1010 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.119 in ninety six, Streeber dove deeper, even deeper into the 1011 00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:37.079 metaphysical nature of the visitors. He began to wonder, what 1012 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.639 if they weren't extraterrestrial at all? What if they were 1013 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.719 part of an ancient hidden reality or dimension or intelligence 1014 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.920 that had always been with humanity, appearing throughout history in 1015 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.480 different forms, angels, fairies, gods. Streeber claimed that he was 1016 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.159 being quote unquote taught by these things, initiated into what 1017 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.320 he called the Secret School. This wasn't an abduction anymore, 1018 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.559 It was aniation. He described being taken out of body, 1019 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.400 shown complex geometric patterns, star systems, and visions of Earth's future. 1020 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.320 Sometimes it was terrifying, other times it was blissful. The 1021 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:14.360 theme was clear. The visitors were here to, in quotes, 1022 00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.960 awaken humanity to a new level of consciousness, but only 1023 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:22.000 through suffering and ego death. So now we get into 1024 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.920 the implants, the visitors and the mystery. So it's gonna 1025 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:26.639 get even fun. 1026 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:30.480 Man, I understand trying to get humanity on another playing 1027 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.079 field of consciousness. I get this through suffering ego death. Fine, 1028 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.840 I'm with you. Cool, cool, cool they're talking about. Yeah, 1029 00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:40.559 looks like the human ray's gonna have to suffer a 1030 00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.280 little bit for you already for the next phase. 1031 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:43.559 It's like, bro, what bro? 1032 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.719 Ego death is one of the most sufferable things you'll 1033 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.320 ever go through. 1034 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:53.480 It can be it can be very profound. It could 1035 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.840 also be very terrifying. I mean, everybody's got their own 1036 00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.280 versions of it, I suppose. 1037 00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.119 Yeah, yeah, I mean it was the most terrifying thing 1038 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:03.360 that's ever happened to me in my life, So I 1039 00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.840 get it. I mean I and for everybody else that's 1040 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.119 ever had like a crazy ego death and a psychedelic experience. 1041 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.480 Fuck me, dude, it'll change you. 1042 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.880 So you had the you you went to the void, right, 1043 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.320 and you would call that a ego death with you 1044 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:18.039 one hundred percent. 1045 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:19.840 Well, it wasn't just the void. 1046 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.400 It was everything that I was thinking and everything that 1047 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.519 I was feeling in the moment that I was in 1048 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:25.000 the void. 1049 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.679 Yeah, you know what I'm The. 1050 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:28.639 Point is, though, would you say that you had suffered 1051 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:33.199 an ego death prior to that no psychedelic experience, or 1052 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.280 would you say that you thought that those were ego deaths. 1053 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.440 I may have thought that maybe you have an ego death, 1054 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.039 and you know, maybe I was kind of looking at 1055 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:47.199 what an ego death meant, possibly in philosophical ways kind 1056 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.920 of sure, but no literal ego death. Remember, I kept 1057 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.760 on telling you, dude, I fucking died, bro, Like, not 1058 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.079 only did I die, everybody else died. And not only 1059 00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.679 did everybody else die, the Earth died, the universe died. 1060 00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.559 Like fucking every thing that I ever knew existed was deleted, 1061 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.880 you know, And and that was on me, you know, Like, 1062 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.320 and that's the ego death is. Whenever you know that 1063 00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.320 you don't exist and nothing you ever experienced has will 1064 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.559 ever exist again, and it's your fault, Like you want 1065 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.400 to talk about a fucking completely reshaping of how you 1066 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.000 look at the world after you go through such a 1067 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:27.679 treacherous experience like that, You're you're you can't not change. Yeah, 1068 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.360 like it it's impossible to not change. It's like, I 1069 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.679 don't imagine the worst thing that you can I don't 1070 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.719 even don't even imagine the worst thing you can happen, 1071 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:37.800 because I don't even want to go into that. 1072 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.880 It's it fucking sucks. I'll just say that. 1073 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.400 My question is because we've had other people say that 1074 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.559 they had tried mushrooms and they experienced an ego death. 1075 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:47.840 But most of the time when they say that, what 1076 00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.000 they mean is their perspective was shifted. 1077 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.000 They were able to remove. 1078 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.360 That inner thought and that inner voice from their heads, 1079 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.039 and they were able to just exist in that time 1080 00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.039 and place, And a lot of people believe that that 1081 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.000 is an ego death. 1082 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.519 Possibly, So I mean, everybody has you know, who am 1083 00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.639 I to say that somebody's experience isn't what mine was, 1084 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:05.960 you know? 1085 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:06.400 Right? 1086 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.360 But like, even as that he's saying that the aliens 1087 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.800 are telling him that humanity needs to suffer. 1088 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.079 A mass ego death. 1089 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.519 That okay, that could be terrifying, that could be a 1090 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.079 bit enlightening and a bit profound. 1091 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:21.159 Different versions, different strokes of different folks. 1092 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.760 I get that, But suffering, now, that only leads to 1093 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.119 negative connotations. And I mean suffering also has different levels 1094 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:31.599 and degrees of severity to it. 1095 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:33.719 So I don't know exactly what they mean. 1096 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.599 But could this be why whenever we see movies about aliens, 1097 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.800 they're always seen as the quote unquote bad guys or 1098 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.360 the enslavers, or trying to wipe out the human race 1099 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:43.920 or whatever. 1100 00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.199 I don't know, Well, I will say this, as far 1101 00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.639 as suffering goes, suffering is something that there is never 1102 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.159 going to be any person to have ever lived that 1103 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.039 has not gone through a period of suffering. It is 1104 00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.440 literally part of the the human experience is suffering. And 1105 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.719 some people, even like great philosophers, they say to live 1106 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.280 is to suffer. You know, you think about all the 1107 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.239 shitty things that you go through in life, like maybe 1108 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.320 it's heartbreak, maybe it's somebody close to you dies, maybe 1109 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.760 it's you know, whatever tragic thing that you go through. 1110 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.519 I mean, it literally reshapes how you look at the world, 1111 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.599 every single thing, and it makes you stronger, It makes 1112 00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:25.719 you aware of what not to do next time. It 1113 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.800 makes you aware of what to look for next time. 1114 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:32.719 You know, it completely transmutates what you once were into 1115 00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:35.960 what you know you're growing to be. So, I mean, 1116 00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:40.440 suffering is terrible, but it's almost like you know, the 1117 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.559 it's what is it? Like the saying is it's always 1118 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.159 darkest before the dawn. So even literally, like the if 1119 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:49.960 you look at like the earth for example, like it 1120 00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:51.960 has to go through a period of darkness in order 1121 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.599 for the sun to rise, you know, like, and that's 1122 00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.079 just the that's the fucking dualistic nature of our reality. 1123 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:00.679 And it's and it shows itself in many different ways 1124 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.239 that even whenever a cow takes a fat shit and 1125 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:06.440 you think that you can't do anything with it, well 1126 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.280 there you go. Now you can plant it and it's 1127 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.239 gonna grow a bunch of amazing vegetables and it's the 1128 00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:13.559 one of the best fertilizers you can get, right, And 1129 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.000 you can also get fucking psychedelic mushrooms out of it, 1130 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.880 So even filth, you get amazing shit out of it. Literally, 1131 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.840 So you need suffering, and nature needs suffering, and humanity 1132 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.639 needs suffering, and fucking your your psyche needs the suffering. 1133 00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.480 So that's the only way you can grow, you know, 1134 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.039 I mean even whenever think about it. 1135 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:34.760 I'm sorry. 1136 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.719 One more example, Like I'm sure you played sports when 1137 00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:41.760 you were growing up, like you played baseball. Right when 1138 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.760 you were playing baseball when you first started, you probably sucked, right, 1139 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.360 like everybody sucks their first time ever playing a sport, 1140 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:51.559 relatively sucking compared to what you eventually evolved to, right, yeah, yeah, 1141 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.400 but you remember, like people on your team, there's always 1142 00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.000 gonna be somebody better than you, Like, there's never it's 1143 00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:59.920 it's very rare that you're the best at something, you know, like, 1144 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.880 no matter what it is. And so you know, you 1145 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.000 compare yourself and you're like, oh my god, I gotta 1146 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.280 fucking stay in this batting cages or I got to 1147 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.320 work on my fastball, or I got to work on 1148 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.000 how to catch ground balls or fly balls or you know, 1149 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.199 turn a fucking six four three or something like that. Right, 1150 00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.559 there's all these these things that you got to learn. 1151 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.400 But in the beginning, it's suffering because you can't do it, 1152 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:21.840 you don't know how to do it, and so it 1153 00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.159 fucking it distresses you, and you know, but it's it's 1154 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.480 through that distress that ultimately it turns you into the 1155 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.599 fucking you know, the baseball player that you want to 1156 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:30.320 be eventually. 1157 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:32.280 And that's what I'm saying. 1158 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.599 If by suffering they mean experiencing a loas that we 1159 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.760 can appreciate the highs Okay, I could see that. Could 1160 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:44.719 it mean wiping out half the planet, the unenlightened half 1161 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.840 or something. I don't know to what level they mean, 1162 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.440 but I see what you're saying as well. Maybe maybe 1163 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.119 it is more of the philosophical suffering in the philosophical 1164 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.320 ego debt that the aliens are speaking of, and not 1165 00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:59.960 a physical uh you know, Oh woe is me wailing 1166 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:01.360 of the human race either. 1167 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:02.960 I mean, we'll see, we'll see. 1168 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.039 I mean, it probably happens in every way that you 1169 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.159 can suffer. I'm not even just saying from the philosophical 1170 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.719 standpoint or from the personal standpoint. You know, the worst 1171 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:12.320 thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing 1172 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:13.199 that's ever happened to you. 1173 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:15.840 Fair, Yeah, And that's different for everybody. 1174 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.079 I'm with you, right right. 1175 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:20.519 So So now let's get over to the transformation and 1176 00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.760 the Secret School. Oh wait, we had already started to 1177 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:26.400 read that. Sorry about that, oh, here we are the implants, 1178 00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:29.400 the visitors, and the mystery. So one of the strangest 1179 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.400 aspects of Streeber's story is the implant. He believed that 1180 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.840 something was physically inserted into his ear during one of 1181 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.880 his abductions. Medical scans later showed a small foreign object 1182 00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.039 that the doctors could not not identify. It gave off 1183 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.159 a radio frequency. He had it tested, and some researchers 1184 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.800 claimed that it was unlike any any known material. The 1185 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:53.320 theories vary, was it a GPS tracker, a neuro interface, 1186 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:57.679 or something even stranger, like a device to influence thought, consciousness, 1187 00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.559 or behavior. Streeber also categorized the beings into different types, 1188 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:06.079 the classic grays, tall insectoid beings, blue humanoids, and even 1189 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:11.559 mechanical like figures. Some seemed caring, others seemed cold and scientific. 1190 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:16.119 He often emphasized that these experiences were both spiritual and invasive, 1191 00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.360 like being cracked open by something older than civilization itself. 1192 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.400 He began to question if this was really about aliens 1193 00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.920 or something more archetypal, where the visitors reflections of our 1194 00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:30.800 own unconscious mind, or were we the experience or the 1195 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.320 experiment rather so, now you know it's going to get 1196 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:39.119 into the government's surveillance and the military encounters and everything 1197 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:42.519 that transpired after he started kind of telling his story, 1198 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.480 So Streever started receiving visits from strange men, some of 1199 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.519 them in suits, some in military uniforms. He claimed that 1200 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.559 they asked detailed questions about the visitors. You know, he's 1201 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.440 just calling them the visitors. Don't know if they're aliens, 1202 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.280 don't know what the fuck they are. They're just visitors, right, 1203 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:03.679 detailed questions about the visitors, his experiences, and they what 1204 01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.679 he thought that they wanted. He believed the US government 1205 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.679 was well aware of the phenomena and possibly working with 1206 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:14.039 or studying these entities. He even described encounters with military 1207 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:17.159 style abductions called my labs, that's what it was called 1208 01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:24.800 my Yeah, Yeah, where humans dressed in uniform participated in 1209 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.679 the experiences. Remember we were going over this about like 1210 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.679 essentially like the Men in Black style shit, where the 1211 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.039 government would simulate some kind of frequency or would put 1212 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:38.239 the subject into some kind of hypnotic trance, or maybe 1213 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:40.400 they'd give them some kind of drug or something like 1214 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.400 that to really manipulate the mind into thinking that they're 1215 01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:48.960 actually being abducted. Right, like essentially simulating an abduction experience, 1216 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.880 and dude, like, there's a lot of people with experiences 1217 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.559 out there like that, you know, and it's not always 1218 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:57.480 just a drug that you slip into somebody's drink. We 1219 01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.239 don't know the technology that the government has, you know, 1220 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.199 we've talked about some of them, like some of the 1221 01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:05.760 frequency guns that they have that causes people to get, 1222 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:07.920 you know, all sick just by sending out like a 1223 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.840 disturbing frequency that interrupts how your cells communicate with each 1224 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.199 other and shit like that, and about how it, you know, 1225 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.159 would have some kind of like a hypnotic effect into 1226 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:21.679 your mind. Dude, the government is so far ahead as 1227 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:26.400 far as technology and especially technology weaponized technology like that, 1228 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.280 and it's just a shame that our fucking tax dollars 1229 01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:30.199 are going to that bullshit. 1230 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.239 But anyway, so it. 1231 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:37.440 Says there were moments where the lines between government ops 1232 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.880 and alien contact blurred. Were humans using alien tech or 1233 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:46.239 were the aliens masquerading as military personnel. Either way, Whitley 1234 01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.519 became convinced the government knows more than it's saying, and 1235 01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.239 communion the book may have been kind of been a 1236 01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:55.960 kind of litmus test for soft disclosure. 1237 01:01:57.480 --> 01:01:59.639 Okay, you never know, dude, you never know. 1238 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:04.079 So then it gets into symbolism, consciousness and the apocalypse. 1239 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:06.639 Whoa so. 1240 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.920 In his later years, Strieber's story took on a deeply 1241 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:12.599 mystical tone. He talked about the visitors in the same 1242 01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.719 breath as angels, demons, and archetypes from Youngian psychology Carl Jung. 1243 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:19.880 He claimed that they were showing him visions of the future, 1244 01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:25.400 environmental collapse, war, and thinning of the veil between worlds. 1245 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:28.920 He explored the idea of death as a doorway, and 1246 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.760 that the visitors might be gatekeepers or guides between dimensions. 1247 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.800 Whitley often said that these things or these beings were 1248 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.159 not just teaching him, they were changing him. That contact 1249 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.400 was a form of initiation into a greater reality. His 1250 01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.400 work began to center on the idea of human transformation. 1251 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.320 That these contacts, terrifying as they are, are about awakening 1252 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.559 the soul. We're not just being visited, We're being confronted 1253 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.800 with our own potential and unknown consequences of ignoring it. 1254 01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.960 This is how I would imagine. 1255 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.800 The a in contact would happen if they are interdimensional. 1256 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:05.480 I mean, I'm not talking about the physical ones. Maybe 1257 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.320 they can fucking manifest themselves in the physical reality if 1258 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.400 they are interdimensional. I don't know, I'm still learning all 1259 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.199 this shit, but I would imagine if you're talking about 1260 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.119 interdimensional shit, especially if it's coming from you know, we 1261 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:18.920 talked about string theory and all these different dimensions and 1262 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:23.320 the capabilities of what you have with these other types 1263 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.840 of dimensions, I would imagine that it would be something 1264 01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:31.119 so foreign. The concept of whatever they're here to do 1265 01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.159 or whatever they're trying to teach us so foreign to 1266 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.119 us that it sounds sci fi, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1267 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.119 it sounds so far out there. We would think, because 1268 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.199 we live in this materialistic kind of physical reality, which 1269 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:43.840 we actually don't. 1270 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:44.559 We just think we do. 1271 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.360 But we would think, coming from this reality, well, they 1272 01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:49.280 must be coming here to mind gold, they must be 1273 01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.480 coming here to mind insects. They must be coming here 1274 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:55.280 to mind fucking organs or something like that. But I 1275 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:59.400 don't think that it's necessarily materialistic like that, especially if 1276 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.639 you're coming from higher dimension, because what the fuck are 1277 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.760 you gonna do with a human liver on the sixth dimension? 1278 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:05.639 You know what I mean? 1279 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.159 That's that's been my big thing. I'm not saying that 1280 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:11.280 they're here for gold. I'm not one of those people, 1281 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:14.519 or water, or whatever the case is. I'm saying, if 1282 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:19.039 these beings are operating in another dimension, like literally on 1283 01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.840 top of our own, but we can't see them, why 1284 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.599 would they be making themselves known to us. I cannot 1285 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.440 imagine a world where they're doing this to better us. 1286 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.719 I can't necessarily imagine a world where they're coming here 1287 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.199 just to fuck our shit up because they hate us either. 1288 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:35.719 I'm saying that they would have to have a purpose. 1289 01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:38.760 There would need to be a point, right, and we 1290 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:43.239 may not have the faculties to understand what that point 1291 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:43.639 might be. 1292 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.840 You know what I'm saying, I feel that same thing. 1293 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:50.800 We don't know, you know, it could be something so foreign, 1294 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.719 Like think about it, like I know that some people 1295 01:04:54.760 --> 01:05:00.360 will look at dreams or meditations or psychedelic experiences as 1296 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.599 if as if it's just the mind. That's what the 1297 01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.320 mind does. You know, it's just filtering in information. And 1298 01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:09.639 that's why you saw that fucking purple flying elephant in 1299 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.000 this dream. You know, that's just your that's your that's 1300 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.519 your mind on meditation or on drugs or whatever. Right, 1301 01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.440 But what if it's not, Like what if we just 1302 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.320 fucking don't get it yet, Like, who's to. 1303 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.840 Say that we have it all figured out? Think about it. 1304 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.920 Science is always evolving. What was it you know they 1305 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:29.599 used to think the fucking earth was flat? Some people 1306 01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.280 still do? You know? Like they used to what was 1307 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.079 it called? They would drill into the fucking head to 1308 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:37.440 alleviate demons or to get rid of demons? What was 1309 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:37.840 that called? 1310 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:40.159 Oh, you're talking about the botomy. 1311 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.719 Lobotomy, dude, that was being performed in the fucking nineteen hundreds. 1312 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.119 Yeah, the other thing had just stopped doing it in 1313 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:50.440 like the late sixties, dude, secure gayness. 1314 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.440 Exactly, and and to get rid of demons, and you 1315 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.440 know what I mean, Like that was not that long ago. 1316 01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.559 So just to imagine that we have it all figured out, 1317 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:00.679 there's no fucking way. 1318 01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:03.760 So let's say one of these entities and once they 1319 01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:09.079 like gets unleashed and everything. Everybody now knows that aliens exist, right, 1320 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.199 and we don't speak their language, so we just assume 1321 01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.840 they come from another planet or another dimension or something. 1322 01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.400 We can acknowledge that something not from here is now 1323 01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.519 manifesting itself physically. We can see them all it's an 1324 01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:25.239 understood thing across the world. Whatever they're about to ask 1325 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:28.079 for next or whatever, is the thing that they keep 1326 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:29.440 like going towards. 1327 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:30.639 Is it human beings? 1328 01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:33.199 Is it for some reason like house cats? 1329 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.960 For whatever reason, they just like they want all of 1330 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:38.519 the house cats on their shit. 1331 01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:41.639 We might be inclined to believe that they're eating them. 1332 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:44.320 We might be inclined to believe that maybe they're like 1333 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.719 worshiping them in some way. Maybe there's so many things 1334 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:51.000 that could be, but like we don't know why, because 1335 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:55.719 possibly we can only see so many colors on the 1336 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.960 entirety of the color spectrum. Okay, these science that these people, 1337 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.480 all these entities excuse me, are operating under is something 1338 01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.079 that I don't think we even have the mental bandwidth 1339 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:10.960 to conceptually get, like even as an abstract concept, you 1340 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:13.159 see what I'm saying. So to say that they're talking 1341 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:16.440 to human beings, I don't inherently think that they're coming 1342 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:20.280 here to destroy mankind. I equally don't believe they would 1343 01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:23.559 be coming here to better mankind either, But again I 1344 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.679 don't know either of those to be a fact. 1345 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:27.079 I mean it could be. 1346 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.320 I mean, we look at certain secret societies and We're like, 1347 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.800 you know what, they're fucking crazy. They believe in a 1348 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:33.880 lot of wild shit. 1349 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:34.199 You know. 1350 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:37.559 You got the Freemasons believe in a grand architect. You 1351 01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.719 got some secret societies that are are are doing like 1352 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:44.039 blood letting and blood magic and stuff like that, and 1353 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.159 we just look at them like they're evil or they're crazy. 1354 01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.480 But I mean, what if there's actually I'm not suggesting 1355 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:51.960 people do fucking blood magic or anything like that, but 1356 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:55.119 what if there's something even deeper to all of that, 1357 01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:58.599 you know, like what if there's something deeper to prayer? 1358 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.320 And what if there's something deep to meditation, you know 1359 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.480 what I mean, Like just because we can't see it, 1360 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:07.079 and maybe because we can't even sense it's you know wholeheartedly, 1361 01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:10.199 but what if there's something really extra, really going on 1362 01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:12.920 there that I don't know. I just I think about 1363 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.280 all this kind of stuff, and I wonder about all 1364 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.439 the crazy wonders of the world, like how the fuck 1365 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:18.359 did the pyramids get here? 1366 01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:20.920 Nobody knows, nobody has any answers. You know. I know 1367 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.800 that some people think it's just a pile of rocks, 1368 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:23.279 you know. 1369 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:27.720 Situated have the blueprints and the architects that design them. 1370 01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.119 Some people have no fucking clue, dude. 1371 01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:34.399 You listen to that fucking asshole that Zahi Hawas or 1372 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.319 some shit on the chemist clips. 1373 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.119 I haven't watched any of them, but I keep seeing 1374 01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:43.239 clips of this guy talking to Rogan and apparently he 1375 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.479 is getting fucking flayed alive on the internet right now. 1376 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:47.359 Now, what did he do? 1377 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:51.800 He's a fucking moron. A he's essentially the Egyptian Pyramid 1378 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:55.760 gatekeeper to a lot of the information. A lot like uh, 1379 01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:57.800 I guess, a lot of the artifacts and a lot 1380 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.720 of the findings are very like hush hush, and they 1381 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.560 don't want to talk about it, such as certain chambers 1382 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:09.039 and certain you know, burial grounds and certain uh tunnels. 1383 01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:09.880 And you know, like weird things. 1384 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.279 Dude, they don't even fucking let people go over there 1385 01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.199 and like inspect a lot of these things, like nobody's 1386 01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.000 allowed to even fucking really come close, like even we're 1387 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:23.880 talking about like even uh like radar technology or satellite technology. 1388 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:25.520 They don't want him being touched. 1389 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:27.840 And this guy is seeming like some kind of gatekeeper, 1390 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:29.840 and he believes, oh, it was just the slaves that 1391 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:33.000 build him. You know, it was just fucking idiots that 1392 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.920 were somehow to new, somehow nude to to make these 1393 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.359 exact dimensions and line them up perfectly with Orion's belt. 1394 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.560 And they were just slaves. They didn't know anything. And 1395 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.960 it's like, dude, this guy is essentially he's the Neil 1396 01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:49.840 Degrass tyson of Egypt bro Like that's that's really what 1397 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:52.399 he is. Like you want to talk about somebody who 1398 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:53.840 thinks that he fucking knows it all? 1399 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:55.000 Who you know? 1400 01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.800 Damn well, he knows more. But he's just some kind 1401 01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.000 of puppet, you know what I mean? Like, that's that's 1402 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.720 what I get from them. 1403 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.920 I mean to say that they were idiots that were 1404 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.520 building it. Does he mean like the actual grunt labor 1405 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:08.640 force that was cutting the stones and was moving them 1406 01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.840 from point A to point B were idiots? Or is 1407 01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.119 he saying that even the designers were just kind of 1408 01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:16.680 like guestimating and figured it out to this level, Because 1409 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:18.279 I mean, I got a cop problems with that. 1410 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:19.600 I'll see now, Okay, if. 1411 01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.319 You're talking about like the grunt labor force that was 1412 01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:23.039 just moving the rocks from point A to point B, 1413 01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:25.279 they didn't know what they were doing. They were just 1414 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.479 following orders at the behest of the do with the 1415 01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:29.800 whip in there in his hand. Okay, I could at 1416 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.479 least see what you're trying to say there. To say 1417 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:37.000 that the architect and the designers of those structures were 1418 01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:40.680 clueless is preposterous to me, There's no way. 1419 01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.119 Yeah, And so you got people like that that are 1420 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.520 ultimately in some kind of control, and there's not a 1421 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.039 lot of information that's allowed to be let out. You know, 1422 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:50.920 it's almost like a Vatican Library type of situation, Like 1423 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.159 why is it that so much information is not allowed 1424 01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.720 for public eyes and everything? And if you really think 1425 01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.119 about it, it's the same now as it always been. 1426 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:02.560 You know, there's always been information that's that's been hidden, 1427 01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.479 and there's always people who are allowed to or the 1428 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:07.880 initiated or the only ones that are allowed to get 1429 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:10.119 to this kind of information. It's just nowadays we call 1430 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:12.239 them experts. You know, it used to be called they 1431 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.119 used to be called masters and fucking initiated ones and 1432 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.000 or or gurus or mystics or fucking rabbis or whatever. 1433 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:20.840 Nowadays they're just called experts. 1434 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:21.199 You know. 1435 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.119 It's the same shit. 1436 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:24.359 Yeah, But I mean, you don't all have to take 1437 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:27.359 keepers inform entire life to these things. Either to become 1438 01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.359 an Egyptologist, you just have to like go to school 1439 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:33.840 and study Egyptian like historicity. You don't have to like 1440 01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:36.399 dedicate a portion of your life and do a blood 1441 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.039 sacrifice and join the occult and all these things. It's 1442 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.680 not like secret knowledge. You could just go to school 1443 01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:43.560 for long enough and you are one kind of thing. 1444 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.279 I will see going to school distinction. Going to school 1445 01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.399 for four to ten years. Is that not still some 1446 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:49.520 kind of sacrifice. 1447 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:52.399 I got a sacrifice and a regard, but not like 1448 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:56.560 these like mystery schools used to require their postulates and 1449 01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:57.279 things like that. 1450 01:11:57.399 --> 01:11:59.840 I mean, there's no I mean it more so back 1451 01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:01.680 like back then, you know, there wasn't a lot of 1452 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:03.760 people that could read, and so you would have like 1453 01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.920 one you know, uh elder in the community that would 1454 01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.279 relay all this information and maybe he would give the 1455 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:11.239 whole story. Maybe he would kind of tell it pair 1456 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:16.600 you know, uh, parabolically or paradoxically or whatever or paraboli 1457 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:21.800 parable fucking imparables, you know what I mean? Yeah, And 1458 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:24.000 you know, I just think that there there's always been 1459 01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:28.279 gatekeepers information and right now it's no different. But anyway, 1460 01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:30.119 I don't want to spend too much on that fucking 1461 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:33.199 hawas s guy becaus fuck him. So we're gonna go 1462 01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:36.880 a little bit more here as far as so to 1463 01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:40.800 do all right, so his legacy. So today, Whitley Streeber 1464 01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:44.199 continues to speak and write. He runs a podcast called Dreamland, 1465 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:48.279 where he interviews experiencers, scientists, and mystics about the nature 1466 01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.680 of contact and reality. He's older, now, more reflective and 1467 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.479 openly spiritual. He no longer tries to prove that the 1468 01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:57.319 visitors exist. He knows what happened to him, and that's enough. 1469 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:01.279 His books, especially Communion, became a call turning point. They 1470 01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.439 gave a voice to the silent experiencers, the abductees, the 1471 01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:08.439 people who who saw beyond the veil. Whitley often says, 1472 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.720 it's not about them, it's about us, what we're becoming. 1473 01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:14.800 Whether he's a prophet or a victim or a mystic 1474 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.920 who touched something most of us never will, his story 1475 01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.640 has left a permanent mark on the conspiracy world and 1476 01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:24.359 the UFO lore. And maybe, just maybe the visitors are 1477 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:27.520 still watching, still waiting, and the next step in human 1478 01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:32.600 evolution might already be underway. So that's more of an overview. 1479 01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:34.239 Now we're going to go into a little bit more 1480 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.840 about his books, but first I want to get into 1481 01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:42.359 what happened exactly, step first step that night, December twenty sixth, 1482 01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:45.159 nineteen eighty five. We kind of had an overlay, but 1483 01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:48.000 let's hear the actual story, you know, as if as 1484 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.319 if we're there, as if we're a fly on the wall. 1485 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:53.199 Let's find out a picture. Dot's let's go there. 1486 01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:57.159 So Whitley, his wife Anne, and their son were spending 1487 01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:00.479 the holidays at their rural cabin. The area was remote, 1488 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:06.000 heavily wooded, and silent, ideal for peaceful, a peaceful winter retreat. 1489 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:09.640 He recalls a normal evening dinner, reading and heading to 1490 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:13.680 bed around eleven pm, But shortly after midnight everything changed. 1491 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.399 Whillie woke up suddenly to a strange noise, a mechanical 1492 01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:22.680 whooshing sound, almost like wind, but oddly artificial. He became 1493 01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.319 instantly alert, sensing that something was in the house. At 1494 01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.479 first he suspected an intruder. He grabbed a flashlight and 1495 01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:33.399 started down the hallway, but then his memory cuts out. 1496 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.760 He would later recall under hypnosis that he was frozen 1497 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.439 in place before even reaching the door. That's exactly what 1498 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.159 Chris Junior Bledsoe fucking went through dude. 1499 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.239 Wow, So it wasn't sleep brolysis. He was going towards 1500 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.560 the door and got stuck, so to speak. 1501 01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:53.560 Yes, yes, almost like a frozen like raid in time. 1502 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:58.720 And this is something that so whenever when the whole 1503 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.720 story with Chris Bledsoe and how these like are parallel 1504 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.359 in a sense, is that Chris Bledsoe, they were all 1505 01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:08.000 like out on some kind of work gig right, I 1506 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.319 think there were longers or they were doing something out there, 1507 01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:12.880 some kind of carpentry or something. And so they went 1508 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:14.560 out into the woods and they were gonna go fishing. 1509 01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:17.239 So they go out fishing, and Chris Bledsoe and they 1510 01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:20.399 built like a bonfire and everything. Chris Bledsoe, he happened 1511 01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:22.319 to just go take a little gander, just a little 1512 01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:24.079 walk through the woods, and the next thing you know, 1513 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.600 he's being visited and he's being fucking taken. And he 1514 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.800 didn't remember most of it until he had to go 1515 01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.640 through under hypnosis to try and remember all that missing 1516 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:34.720 time because he thought that only fifteen twenty minutes had passed. 1517 01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:38.239 But whenever he came back to it was dark outside. 1518 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:40.920 You know, he went back to the fire where everybody 1519 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.399 else was, and nobody was really there. His son went 1520 01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.720 to go looking for him, and then you find out 1521 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:47.840 that his son while he was looking for him. I 1522 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.439 guess his son was looking for him for like a 1523 01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.199 couple of hours. But then his son comes up on 1524 01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:56.159 this alien, right, and this alien fucking freezes him in time, 1525 01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.880 like literally, he's aware, like he sees what's going on. 1526 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.600 He can't move, he can't speak, he can't do anything. 1527 01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:06.680 And what Chris Senor says is that the aliens basically 1528 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.399 froze him there in time to protect him, to keep 1529 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.479 him from going anywhere farther, maybe from animals or maybe 1530 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:15.359 from getting lost or whatever. They almost wanted to keep 1531 01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.840 him there, frozen, to protect him so that whenever his 1532 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.159 dad got back, he'd be able to find him and 1533 01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:23.319 he'd be safe and everything. But it's just wild how 1534 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:28.680 these stories parallel like that. But so then the visitors appear. 1535 01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.920 He was suddenly paralyzed, not just unable to move, but 1536 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:35.319 mentally frozen, as if time had paused. We're back on 1537 01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:36.520 Wheey Streamers story. 1538 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:36.720 Now. 1539 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:40.720 He remembers seeing a small figure in the doorway, something 1540 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.720 non human with a large head, dark eyes and a 1541 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:48.319 tight grayish suit. Then more of them appeared different types. 1542 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:52.520 One was short, robotic or insect like. Another one was tall, 1543 01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:57.279 with a spindly frame, almond shape, black eyes, and pale, 1544 01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:01.760 waxy skin the now icon gray alien as most people 1545 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:06.199 would know. One entity had wrinkled bluish skin, almost resembling 1546 01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.880 an old man. These beings took him, not physically dragged him, 1547 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.840 but somehow floated him out of the cabin through the air. 1548 01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:16.119 Whoa little levitation ship going on here? 1549 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:17.479 Yeah? 1550 01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.960 His memory out of the of the cabin blacks out 1551 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.960 completely after that moment. Then there is It says that 1552 01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.560 he came. He came to in what he described as 1553 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:33.279 a metallic room, dome shaped and glowing faintly. He was 1554 01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.399 naked in this room, in this chamber, so he so 1555 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:37.439 he calls it. 1556 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:38.640 He was. 1557 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.119 He was naked, cold and lying on a hard surface. 1558 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.399 Sounds kind of surgical, right, Yeah. He was strapped down 1559 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:51.520 or immobilized by some unseen force. The entities moved around him, 1560 01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.640 observing and examining him in a clinical, detached way. He 1561 01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:59.439 recalls a long needle like object being inserted into his 1562 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:03.159 head near the temple. It caused a sharp jarring pain 1563 01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:08.000 that he later said felt as if it penetrated into 1564 01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:12.119 his mind. One being with hypnotic black eyes leaning close 1565 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:16.920 to him, conveying complex thoughts telepathically, but their language was alien, 1566 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.239 so it was hard to grasp. Another entity inserted something. 1567 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:26.840 Oh shit, another antity inserted something into his rectum. There 1568 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:31.319 we go an experience that left him humiliated, violated, and 1569 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:36.119 psychologically shattered as it would right, damn, I didn't know 1570 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:37.800 there was butt stuff involved in the story. 1571 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:42.159 So we got a temple injection for lack of better words, 1572 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.800 and a anal probing, and we're just getting started from 1573 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:45.920 what I get the gist of. 1574 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:47.000 Yeah, baby. 1575 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:51.399 So when the encounter ended, he was back in his cabin, 1576 01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.560 but not in his bed. He was sitting upright in 1577 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:58.560 the living room, disoriented and confused. The fire had gone out, 1578 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:01.199 the house was freezing, and it was nearly it was 1579 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:04.439 early morning. At first, he rationalized it maybe I just 1580 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:08.039 had a nightmare, maybe I sleepwalked. But over the following days, 1581 01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:12.560 pieces of memory leaked through flashbulb images, emotional flashbacks in 1582 01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:15.880 a growing sense that something real had occurred. He began 1583 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:20.279 to experience night terrors and walking and waking visions, symptoms 1584 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:23.880 like bruises, a bloody nose, and a small circular wound 1585 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.399 on his head, an overwhelming fear of the night sky. 1586 01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:31.760 Now I haven't heard anything about the chip behind his 1587 01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:32.920 ear just yet. 1588 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:36.319 Yeah, we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. There's there's. 1589 01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:39.920 This is a deep story, dude, and I love that's 1590 01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:42.119 the thing, dude, If you're making up a fucking story 1591 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.680 to be so detailed about all this kind of stuff, 1592 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.119 you know, Like, I mean, it's sure, it's possible, but 1593 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.239 like either one, this guy has a crazy fucking imagination, 1594 01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:51.880 which he does. 1595 01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:54.920 He is an author of horror books, you know. 1596 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.399 But wouldn't that be the perfect mind and the perfect 1597 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:01.159 type of human to operate rate and fuck with. I'm 1598 01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:03.600 not fuck with, but initiate. 1599 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:07.800 Almost possibly, And I'm not I don't want to start 1600 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.760 going on the whole like trying to call the shade 1601 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.399 or call the bullshit before we get the whole story here. 1602 01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:18.119 But I mean, HP Lovecraft very similarly was a sci 1603 01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:20.880 fi writer who started religion. Everybody's like, oh my god, 1604 01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:24.279 who else would be better to relay this information? And 1605 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:29.840 it's like, uh, probably not a sci fi writer. Well, 1606 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:30.399 I don't know. 1607 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.560 I'll tell you something that I don't know if this 1608 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:35.039 does anything for you. But all of his books and 1609 01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.039 all of his screenwritings and everything before, they were always 1610 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:38.960 labeled as fiction. 1611 01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:39.640 Right. 1612 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.840 Whenever he created this Communion book, the first one it 1613 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:46.079 was labeled it was his first book that was nonfiction. 1614 01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:49.079 I mean, that's up to the author to list it 1615 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:50.960 as one versus the other. It's not like that goes 1616 01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:53.600 before a border of review to fact check. 1617 01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.239 Things, right, But typically whenever it's nonfiction, you don't fluff 1618 01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.640 it up at all, even you know fair. It's like 1619 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.039 usually the experience, the emotions that were felt, everything that 1620 01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:05.800 was taken from it, You're not like turning it into 1621 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:06.880 some kind of fantasy. 1622 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:08.000 It's like as it was. 1623 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:10.680 I don't want to believe that this guy is making 1624 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:12.840 this shit up. I want to believe that well except 1625 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.079 for the anal probing, of course, I want to believe 1626 01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:16.960 that his experience is genuine. 1627 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:17.319 For sure. 1628 01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:19.600 I'm not trying to be the skeptic at this moment. 1629 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.600 I'm gonna be completely. 1630 01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:23.680 Forth right here. As of this very. 1631 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:27.079 Moment, I'm going at this like there's no bullshit detected. 1632 01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:29.359 We are one hundred percent with him on this. The 1633 01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:32.720 story is as he says, it happened. I'm here, brother. 1634 01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:34.720 Yeah, there's still there's still more to it, so we 1635 01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:39.159 haven't come full circle just yet. So so, yeah, he 1636 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:44.399 was experiencing all those crazy things, night terrors, circular wounds 1637 01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:46.680 on his head, and then he had some weird, overwhelming 1638 01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:50.800 fear of the night sky. Then he gets into the regression. 1639 01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:52.680 So those are all the things that he was he 1640 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.359 could remember up until the point, and this is where 1641 01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.479 we get into the regression here. So he goes under 1642 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:03.319 a regression hypnosis dreamer. He eventually turned to hypnotherapy, which 1643 01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:05.239 unlocked even more memories. 1644 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:06.319 Of that night, as they usually do. 1645 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:10.239 The feeling of helplessness of being treated as a specimen, 1646 01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:14.279 the moment of psychic intrusion when the beings accessed his 1647 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:18.600 thoughts and implanted alien images or codes, The realization that 1648 01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:20.920 this wasn't the first time that he had encountered them, 1649 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:26.119 he had been taken before, possibly as a child. Wow, okay, 1650 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:27.880 uh what shook him the most? 1651 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:29.880 Wait? Possibly as a child. 1652 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:31.640 I feel like that's kind of a big detail to 1653 01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:35.000 bring up in the beginning, Or it is more like 1654 01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:36.840 he might have thought it was a dream or something 1655 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:37.079 like that. 1656 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:38.479 Yeah. Possibly. 1657 01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:41.600 And that's the thing, like how these things a lot 1658 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.880 of people, how they describe these stories is that it's 1659 01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:47.319 so out of this world that it has to be 1660 01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.279 like what frame of reference do you put it in? 1661 01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.840 You know, like, especially as a little kid, you. 1662 01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:55.560 Don't even fucking know what reality is yet, you know, 1663 01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:57.560 Like that's why I do. Whenever I was little, I 1664 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:01.279 used to believe that, like what what Matilda could do 1665 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.560 was real, that that was something that that could absolutely happen, 1666 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:06.199 you know, Like I watched that movie when I was 1667 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:07.520 like five years old. I was like, dude, I was 1668 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:09.680 fucking trying to do it and trying to move things 1669 01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:11.760 with my mind and all that shit, which I will 1670 01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:13.920 be learning telekinesis before we go to bro Gove. 1671 01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:14.880 Go to bro Grove. 1672 01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.159 Dot com to go get your tickets and join us 1673 01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:20.640 in Florida, June twentieth and twenty first. It's gonna be 1674 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:22.560 a fucking banger fest, and we're gonna be talking about 1675 01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:23.520 all aliens. 1676 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:23.880 That's it. 1677 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.279 We're gonna be bringing up fucking experiencers, We're gonna be 1678 01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:27.720 bringing up researchers. 1679 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.239 It's gonna be a full on alien night. It's going 1680 01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:30.960 to get crazy. 1681 01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.840 So if you love that type of shit, come check 1682 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.000 us out at bro Grove dot com and go get 1683 01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:37.319 your tickets. If not, then hey, you can always just 1684 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:39.079 come hang out with us after the show. I mean 1685 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:41.479 we're good either way. We're gonna be hanging out with 1686 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:43.760 Matt Rife and all the good cult members out there. 1687 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.960 So you want to come hang out, do whatever you can, 1688 01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:49.520 get a babysitter, you know, tell your job to go 1689 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:52.359 fuck itself for a weekend and come hang out at 1690 01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:54.000 bro Grove with your good cult members. 1691 01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:59.119 Okay, indeed, indeed, for the record, that's Brohmian, not Bohemian. 1692 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.279 We keep seeing comments of people that do not get 1693 01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:02.920 what this is. 1694 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:06.439 Look go to Brogrove dot com and it will make 1695 01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:08.720 a lot more sense to you. While you're there, check 1696 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:10.680 out the availability of the tickets. 1697 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:13.840 All right, that's all we're saying, Yes, yes, and there's 1698 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.720 gonna be a lot of amazing people there, Like we're 1699 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.680 we're just like a piece of the pie, and probably 1700 01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:23.159 even a small sliver of the pie, not even big 1701 01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:23.800 pieces of. 1702 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:25.319 The that are gonna be going there. 1703 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:27.800 But not to not to tear us down by any means, 1704 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.640 because what we're gonna bring is fucking awesome too. So 1705 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.199 fuck yeah, definitely go check out brogrove dot com, especially 1706 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.119 if you live in Florida or their surrounding states. 1707 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:39.079 Dude, we got is steph She's flying from Arizona. 1708 01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:41.960 Dude, that's across the idea of contry flying over there. 1709 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:43.239 That's a true cult member. 1710 01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.560 Be it be a Stephanie. Okay, be a Stephanie with 1711 01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:48.760 that third eye all the way open. Distance ain't no 1712 01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.800 thing when your third eye is all the way open anyway, Okay, 1713 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.439 it's all just illusion, but anyway, all right, So now 1714 01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:58.760 we get to the emotional fallout. So what shook him 1715 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:03.119 the most was not just the violation, but the spiritual dimension. 1716 01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:07.439 Despite the trauma, he had a deep, unsettling sense of familiarity. 1717 01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:09.920 It felt as though the beings had always been there, 1718 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.760 just beyond the veil of awareness. They were not merely 1719 01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:17.720 scientific observers. They were architects of something of some deeper mystery, 1720 01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:20.840 interacting with his soul, not just his body, he would 1721 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:21.560 later write. 1722 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:33.640 They were not human. He would hear anything. I don't 1723 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:34.439 know what the fuck that was. 1724 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:42.439 Maybe he's outside, I don't know, he would later write 1725 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.720 in his quotes, they were not human, but they were 1726 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:49.920 also not monsters. They were other and they had been 1727 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.199 with me perhaps all my life. 1728 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:55.560 That's his experience. You know. 1729 01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.279 From starting to finish, we're going to get into a 1730 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:02.159 little bit more of his book books also, because that's 1731 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.720 going to take us even deeper. There's so many breadcrumbs 1732 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.359 to this story and it's going to be hard to 1733 01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:09.720 try and piece it all together to really get a good, 1734 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:11.359 you know, foundational understanding. 1735 01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:13.560 Is this guy a grifter? Is it a true story? 1736 01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:17.399 I'll say, you know, I kind of I've always heard 1737 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:19.399 about this story, you know, you always hear about the 1738 01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:21.319 name Whitley Streeber and all the books that he wrote, 1739 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:24.720 and you know, all the research that he's done and everything, 1740 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.359 but I never dove into it like to this depth. 1741 01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:31.359 So I'm I'm learning even now with all the good 1742 01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:34.720 cult members out there. So this is I mean, I 1743 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:38.439 find it fascinating. But so let's get into the first 1744 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.760 book that he writes in nineteen eighty seven called Communion. Okay, 1745 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:43.439 you heard him talking about it earlier in the video 1746 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:47.720 with Danny Jones, So we're gonna dive into that book 1747 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:51.159 a little bit here. So the first part it talks about. 1748 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:52.640 In the beginning of the book, it talks about the 1749 01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:57.319 actual abduction experience. So Communion begins with Whitley Strieber's shocking 1750 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.359 personal account of an alleged abduction from his remote in 1751 01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:02.880 Upstate New York on the night of December twenty sixth, 1752 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:07.199 nineteen eighty five. He describes waking up paralyzed, encountering non 1753 01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:11.520 human entities, and undergoing bizarre invasive procedures. The experience leaves 1754 01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.000 him confused, terrified, and questioning his sanity. Much of the 1755 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:18.439 early book centers on his attempt to make sense of 1756 01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:22.680 the incident, including his exploration of hypnosis to recover fragmented memories. 1757 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:26.640 This initial encounter becomes the catalyst for a broader investigation 1758 01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:31.520 into what really happened and whether these beings were extraterrestrial, interdimensional, 1759 01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:35.000 or something even stranger. Then the book goes into the 1760 01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:39.159 trauma and the transformation. So Streebird does not simply present 1761 01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.319 his story as a UFO encounter. He treats it like 1762 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:46.479 a psychological and spiritual wound. Almost the book is written 1763 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:50.600 with an intensely personal tone, folks, focusing on the emotional 1764 01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:55.960 and existential fallout of the event. He discusses feelings of violation, fear, 1765 01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:59.520 and isolation, describing how the experiences shattered his sense of 1766 01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:04.600 reality through ongoing encounters and dreamlike memories. Streeber begins to 1767 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:08.279 suspect that his contact with these entities didn't begin that night. 1768 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:11.479 He had been but they had been happening since childhood. 1769 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:15.479 He compares the abduction not to scientific study, but to 1770 01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:19.079 an ancient form of initiation or spiritual awakening, one that 1771 01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:24.439 strips away the ego. Nextly we get into the further 1772 01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:28.399 deeper you get into the book. He's describing the visitors 1773 01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:32.000 as he calls them. The entities Streeber describes are not 1774 01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.199 limited to the popular grays of UFO lore. While the 1775 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:38.199 cover art of Communion features a classic gray alien, his 1776 01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:43.000 encounter involves a variety of beings, some with insect like features, 1777 01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:46.720 others mechanical or humanoid. These visitors, as he calls them, 1778 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.359 seem to operate on the broader, or on the border, 1779 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:54.359 between physical and metaphysical reality. They use telepathy, time distortion, 1780 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:59.000 and often cloak themselves in screen memories to mask their presence. 1781 01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.359 Streeber never definitively claims that they are aliens. Instead, he 1782 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:08.000 explores the possibility that they may be spiritual beings, ultradimensional intelligences, 1783 01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:10.680 or even aspects of human consciousness itself. 1784 01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:14.199 Fuck, I love that. I hope that that's what it is. 1785 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:18.159 Like I prefer this story over the physical they're from 1786 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:21.760 Mars story, Like this is like way deeper kind of shit, 1787 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:23.359 Like I mean. 1788 01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.319 Especually, I disagree with that, but I mean I'm good 1789 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:28.319 with them either way. You know, I think both could 1790 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.199 very well be happening at the same time, interdimensional and interplanetary. 1791 01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:34.640 Maybe they're one and the same. Maybe they are completely 1792 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.119 separate entities altogether. 1793 01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:39.640 I don't know, So interplanetary is more interesting to you 1794 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:40.600 than interdimensional. 1795 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.359 I put them both in the same category, like as 1796 01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:46.520 far as like how cool they are, how interesting they 1797 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:50.039 are all that, Like not from Mars, obviously, right that 1798 01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:54.199 that sounds fucking preposterous. But to say that a living 1799 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:59.159 entity got here from two galaxies away in some way, 1800 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.760 shape or form, and they bringing themselves here to Earth 1801 01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:07.000 to establish communication with the human race, that is fascinating 1802 01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:10.760 interesting all that stuff to me. Same time, to say 1803 01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:15.439 that this is a seventh dimensional entity that is making 1804 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:19.000 itself known to us three dimensional plebs over here is 1805 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:19.760 equally like? 1806 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:20.720 Bro what like? 1807 01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:22.319 Both sound cool as. 1808 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:22.600 Hell to me. 1809 01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:25.479 I'm not saying ones more or less than the other. 1810 01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:29.279 It's just you know, me and you have very different 1811 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:32.119 perspectives on reality, so I could see why one would 1812 01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:34.640 seem more appealing to you versus one over mine. 1813 01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:38.479 That's all which is I find it fascinating because a 1814 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:42.520 lot of people will come to their conclusion as to 1815 01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:45.680 what aliens are and where they come from, mainly based 1816 01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:50.159 upon their own personal experiences. Now, you never witnessed an 1817 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.960 alien per se, but you did witness a being that 1818 01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:59.359 was a nine angel that was absolutely not from a planet, 1819 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.399 right right, So it would be more in the dimensional 1820 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:06.960 than it would be the physical planet. I mean, call 1821 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.560 it dimensional, call it Heaven, call it Hell, whatever I mean. 1822 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:12.680 Let's just say that Heaven and Hell are more like 1823 01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.359 dimensional places than they would be physical places. 1824 01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:16.359 Would you disagree with that? 1825 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:19.720 I don't know if I necessarily agree or disagree with 1826 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:20.239 that statement. 1827 01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:21.439 I'm gonna be honest with you. 1828 01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:26.720 Could it be that Heaven is another dimension overlaid on 1829 01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:28.479 top of ours that we can't see. 1830 01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.640 I understand the talking point. I don't necessarily agree with that. 1831 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:35.880 I also don't necessarily agree with Hell being at the 1832 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.199 center of the Earth with all the magma, Like, I 1833 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:41.840 don't necessarily agree or disagree with either of those points, right, 1834 01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:47.119 But I also don't believe that my experience of what 1835 01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:51.199 I saw and and all of the things came from 1836 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:52.279 a different planet. 1837 01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:55.000 Not at all. It's more preposterous. 1838 01:31:55.479 --> 01:32:00.319 It's well, I'm sorry, it's so it's more preposteros that 1839 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.239 they would come from a planet, that then it would 1840 01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:05.800 be from a dimension. Speaking on the demon and the angel, right, Like, 1841 01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:08.439 it would be more believable if they came from a 1842 01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:11.199 dimension than a planet, I guess, is what I'm trying 1843 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:11.560 to say. 1844 01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.720 Yeah, I could see it being more believable, But I 1845 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.880 still don't necessarily get down with that. I don't, And 1846 01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:20.880 I'm not saying that just because I'm being the stick 1847 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:23.199 in the mud here. I'm saying that I don't. I 1848 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:27.840 don't fully get down with the theory that Hell is 1849 01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.560 a dimension and that Heaven is a dimension. I don't 1850 01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:35.239 disbelieve them. I just don't like throw my lot in 1851 01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:36.800 with that one, you know what I'm saying. 1852 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:40.840 But let's just say that it's not even disregard the places, 1853 01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:45.319 but the beings. You know, call them angels, demons in 1854 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.800 your in your circumstance, you know, Like now, I just 1855 01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:50.119 wonder how they would get here. 1856 01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:58.039 I think they're always here personally. I And again, I'm 1857 01:32:58.079 --> 01:32:59.520 not trying to make this religious. 1858 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:01.760 Episode, no, no, no, I'm just genuinely curious how you 1859 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:02.279 look at it. 1860 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:06.920 I see this as there is a spiritual warfare going 1861 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:10.079 around us at all times right now. 1862 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:12.520 There could very well be an angel in my studio 1863 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:12.880 with me. 1864 01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:14.800 Right now, as well as there could be a demon 1865 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.239 in my studio with me as we speak right at 1866 01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:20.760 all times, there is a greater than zero percent chance 1867 01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:22.720 that there is something else of that nature in the 1868 01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:26.520 room with you now. Most ninety nine point nine nine 1869 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:28.640 nine percent of the time, these entities will never let 1870 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.680 themselves be known to you, right, They're never gonna show themselves. 1871 01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:33.680 They're never gonna let you hear their voice or whatever. 1872 01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:36.600 Sometimes they may choose to, And there's usually a reason 1873 01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.000 for that, right, And we don't know that reason until 1874 01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:41.279 way after the fact and we look back on it 1875 01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.279 and realize, oh, that's what that was for whatever the 1876 01:33:43.279 --> 01:33:46.359 case is. But I believe that at all times there 1877 01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:50.079 is not just the dochotomy of good and evil ying 1878 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:55.119 Yang conversation. I believe there's actual warfare, actual fighting going 1879 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:58.199 on on the spiritual front around us at all times, 1880 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.359 so I don't see it as necessarily the other dimensional. 1881 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.760 So how do you separate that though, because exactly what 1882 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:08.880 you're saying is what people would describe as dimensional overlays 1883 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:10.079 on top of this reality. 1884 01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:12.159 It's the same concept. 1885 01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:15.560 Remember when we talked about flat Land, right, It's not 1886 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:18.680 like the three dimensional world was happening on top of 1887 01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:22.399 the two dimensional world. Okay, it was the three dimensional 1888 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:26.239 shape came to flat Land and made itself present to them. 1889 01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:29.560 He took the two dimensional object and brought it into 1890 01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:32.600 the three dimensional realm. It was a whole different place, 1891 01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:35.479 a whole different world, not stacked on top of each other, 1892 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:41.159 completely separate locations. I believe that that's more likely the case. Now, 1893 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:44.359 how do you jump from dimension to dimension? I believe 1894 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:47.119 that that's more in a lone of like wormholes possibly 1895 01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.119 or tearing through the fabric of time and space. Which 1896 01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.319 is why I believe that if just personally Jacob speaking 1897 01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:55.600 on be half of Jacob, let's say that there is 1898 01:34:55.640 --> 01:35:00.800 a extraterrestrial life form living and not necessarily eating oxygen, 1899 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.000 but by all senses of what we would call living 1900 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:07.520 a life on another planet two three, five galaxies away 1901 01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:11.600 and they are jumping here. Maybe they have developed how 1902 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:15.560 to travel at light speed. Maybe maybe it's more likely 1903 01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.359 to me personally that they have found a way to 1904 01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:19.680 tear through the fabric of time and space and basically 1905 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:21.359 teleport from point A to point B. 1906 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:23.560 But there's still a physical entity. 1907 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:24.840 Still living in the third dimension. 1908 01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:28.319 Yes, Now, does that mean that they are able to 1909 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.479 step into the fourth dimension for travel, because that fourth 1910 01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:34.560 dimensional would be time, so they're able to step into 1911 01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:37.359 and out of it. And maybe that's a whole Maybe 1912 01:35:37.359 --> 01:35:39.880 that's a technological thing that they've broken the veil on. 1913 01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.720 I see that as a possibility, But per just my 1914 01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:48.199 personal beliefs, Angels, demons, God, the Devil, Heaven, Hell, all 1915 01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:52.760 that is completely separate from the dimensional conversation. Like I 1916 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:55.319 don't believe that God resides in the tenth dimension. I 1917 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.800 believe he created all of the dimensions tenth included. 1918 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:04.760 Okay, and that's in outside of the dimensions. Angels and 1919 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:09.119 demons would also live outside of those dimensions that God created. 1920 01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:12.239 Yes, Now, are they able to jump into an out 1921 01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:14.800 of them as they see fit to do their bidding. 1922 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:16.800 That God or the devil or whatever has told them, yes, 1923 01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:19.880 one hundred percent, they can do whatever the fuck they want. Right, 1924 01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:22.119 they have free will, Otherwise they wouldn't have chose to 1925 01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:24.600 rebel all the things like, that's a whole philosophical hypothe 1926 01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:27.520 got a conversation. I'm with you, but it's kind of 1927 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.239 the same concept. I'll talk to you like the video game. 1928 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:33.079 Let's say, all this is a matrix, right, Everything from 1929 01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:35.239 the first dimension all the way the tenth dimension is 1930 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:38.079 all a part of the computer program. We just happen 1931 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:40.920 to find ourselves on level three. Just for the sake 1932 01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:45.119 of this conversation. The programmer and all of his IT 1933 01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:49.079 texts are outside of the program. They can jump in 1934 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:52.000 at level eight to rewrite some code. They can jump 1935 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:55.439 in at level three our dimension and tell somebody, Hey, 1936 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:57.399 you need to act this way, or you're fucking this up, 1937 01:36:57.479 --> 01:36:59.119 or hey, I need to collect some data from you. 1938 01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.800 I e anal p, I eat this who knows who knows? 1939 01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:02.359 Right? 1940 01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:04.720 But they're able to jump in and out of because 1941 01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:08.880 they are removed from yet able to go into the program. 1942 01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:11.640 I see that as more of a and this is 1943 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:14.239 just my own understanding. I think that's more along the 1944 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:16.800 lines of how angels, demons, God, Satan all that plays 1945 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:18.439 into our physical existence. 1946 01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:22.119 Okay, No, that's understandable. I guess I was just thinking. 1947 01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:25.239 And it's always fun to get like different perspectives like that, 1948 01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:28.239 because you know, if you stay only in your perspective 1949 01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:30.439 and you think you know everything, then it almost becomes 1950 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:32.520 an echo chamber and you never really learn anything or 1951 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.880 different perspectives to even be able to balance up against 1952 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:36.920 other perspectives, you know. 1953 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:37.960 So I think that's important. 1954 01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:43.279 But just a question though, whenever they talk about and 1955 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:47.840 this is I'm not I'm not going religious here, that's 1956 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.840 not where I'm trying to go. But because I think, 1957 01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:54.079 in my opinion, angels, demons, God, all that stuff, aliens 1958 01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:58.760 are all in the same kind of category of they 1959 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.880 exist but may be not here where we don't know 1960 01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:06.239 kind of thing. But whenever you hear about the fallen angels, 1961 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.640 for example, you know, we talk about the fallen angels, 1962 01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:12.399 some of them call them an Anaki whatever that eventually 1963 01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:15.640 they end up mating with earth women, right, if we're 1964 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:18.479 looking at that in a physical type of way, Whenever 1965 01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:21.640 they fell I guess how I would look at that is, 1966 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:24.319 if let's say they exist in the seventh dimension. 1967 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:25.960 Let's just throw a number out and you. 1968 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:30.279 Would have to fall and somehow incorporate yourself into the 1969 01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:34.000 third dimensional reality that we exist in, and then they're 1970 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:37.159 able to I don't know, manifest themselves into some kind 1971 01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:40.479 of physical body, because from your example, the demon was 1972 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:43.319 like physical but also not physical at the same time, 1973 01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:47.439 which maybe you would be able to call dimensional overlay 1974 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:48.239 kind of thing. 1975 01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:51.199 Right, It was able to touch me, so I know 1976 01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:53.399 it is at least able to have some sort of 1977 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:56.399 physical appendage. So I mean take that for what it is. 1978 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.000 But I also believe that they are also shape shifters. 1979 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:03.640 Okay, but all right, so even whenever the thank God 1980 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:07.840 for the blessed Angel Jonathan came and saved you, whenever, 1981 01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.520 let's say, so he shot that fucking demon with the 1982 01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:14.000 flaming arrow, right, what happened to that demon after that? 1983 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:16.159 Did he just poof out of existence? Did he crawl away? 1984 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.199 Did he walk away? Do you remember what happened? 1985 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:18.960 No? 1986 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:22.279 He uh he more or less like de materialized. 1987 01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:27.560 Okay, interesting, so you saw him almost like pixel out. 1988 01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:31.119 Well, okay, so we're getting off topic, but I ain't 1989 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:34.159 mad at it. So when I was five, and the 1990 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.640 first time I saw it, dematerialized in a way, he 1991 01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:43.520 pretty much swirled into himself and then disappeared, like it 1992 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:46.520 looked like it was like going through like a swirling 1993 01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:49.199 in a toilet bowl, if you will, into the center, 1994 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:51.600 and then he was gone. Now cut to when I 1995 01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:54.960 was sixteen, it was more or less him phasing out 1996 01:39:55.039 --> 01:40:01.000 of existence, like uh, I guess uh, I want to say, 1997 01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:04.680 like just kind of like slowly fading out, so to speak. 1998 01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:07.279 But that's the best way that I could describe what 1999 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:09.600 I was seeing. And it wasn't just one shot. It 2000 01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:11.960 was like every time he got shot, he was going 2001 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.960 a little more, a little more, a little more. 2002 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.640 Kind of thing, okay, and just getting kind of weird here, 2003 01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:21.199 Like you know, I don't necessarily believe in in demons 2004 01:40:21.239 --> 01:40:24.439 and all that kind of stuff. But you mentioned something 2005 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.119 very interesting earlier, and you said shape shifter. 2006 01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:33.239 Yeah, because he's presented himself in different forms over the years, right, 2007 01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:35.159 I mean, hell, even when I was twenty five, I 2008 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:36.840 think it was the last time I saw him, he 2009 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:38.840 presented to himself in a completely different way. 2010 01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:42.000 Right, And so I'm kind of looking at that as 2011 01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:45.000 if could it have been an alien that shape shifted 2012 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:47.760 into a demon and that's how it represented to you, 2013 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.000 because that was kind of I don't know if that 2014 01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:51.720 was your beliefs. You're only five years old, Like what 2015 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:53.159 beliefs do you have at five? 2016 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:53.800 You know? 2017 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.600 But yeah, I was a Christian, but not I didn't 2018 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:01.399 have the bounds of knowledge into my faith as I 2019 01:41:01.439 --> 01:41:03.600 do now. Is more like you know, Bible stories out 2020 01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:05.119 of the picture book and shit like that. 2021 01:41:05.239 --> 01:41:08.159 I guess, like it's I feel like it's kind of 2022 01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:12.239 fun to look at it through not an abduction, but 2023 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:17.399 almost like an alien visitation. Like just substitute demon for alien, 2024 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:19.680 an angel for alien, you know what I mean? 2025 01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:23.239 Like, if you look, there's a lot of Christians that do. 2026 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:25.640 And because demons are known to be shape shift, he's 2027 01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:26.600 not just by my story. 2028 01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:28.039 A lot of stories tell us this. 2029 01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.439 A lot of people say that if it's an alien, 2030 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:32.760 oh no, I don't believe in aliens. I believe in demons, 2031 01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:36.680 and that a demon could materialize themselves to look like 2032 01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:39.119 the picture behind your head right now, right and so like, 2033 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:43.880 and that's that's a thought, and I don't disregard that 2034 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:46.840 as an impossibility by any means, But that's I also 2035 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:50.039 somebody who believes that they are happening. At the same time, 2036 01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:53.560 I believe in aliens and I believe in demons. I believe, yes, 2037 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:57.199 demons could show themselves as an alien if it was 2038 01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:00.279 like to draw fear out of somebody, or to achieve 2039 01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:02.079 a goal that they have or something like that. But 2040 01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:04.479 I don't believe that every alien out there is just 2041 01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:05.520 a demon in disguise. 2042 01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:06.159 That's just me. 2043 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:08.359 Well, I guess I'm just trying to put it into 2044 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:11.359 these terms because if you think about Willy Streeber, he 2045 01:42:11.399 --> 01:42:13.800 talked about how there were good ones and then some 2046 01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:17.359 like cold and more clinical type of ones, you know, 2047 01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:19.960 almost like to me, almost like evil, you know, like 2048 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:22.399 I imagine the good ones ain't gonna be fucking inserting 2049 01:42:22.439 --> 01:42:24.319 to probe up your ass, right Like, I wouldn't look 2050 01:42:24.359 --> 01:42:26.760 at that as a good thing. But if you look 2051 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.239 at it through those lens like I guess, if you're 2052 01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.119 looking at it through like you know, depending on what 2053 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.239 your lens of spirituality is, maybe you would look at 2054 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:37.880 that as a demon, right like kind of thing. 2055 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:38.479 I could see it. 2056 01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:41.680 But also, at the same time, are all dogs going 2057 01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:45.479 to attack you. No, but there are dogs that will, 2058 01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:48.399 and there are dogs that will drag you out of 2059 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:49.640 traffic and save your life. 2060 01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:50.640 You know what I'm saying. 2061 01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:52.520 And it's just a dog that you've never met before. 2062 01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:55.760 It didn't have to be your pet or anything like that. Humans, 2063 01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:59.119 is every single person you meet got the best intentions 2064 01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:01.680 for you or do? Some of them truly have evil 2065 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.680 within their hearts and they want to do you harm. 2066 01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.399 I feel and this is just again my own opinion. 2067 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:09.199 I feel like aliens are in that same regard. Some 2068 01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:13.119 of them are truly out for their own interests and 2069 01:43:13.159 --> 01:43:15.439 they do not care if they kill you or not. 2070 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.119 I think some might be out to try to help you, 2071 01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:20.960 give you some wisdom, give you some some insight. Some 2072 01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:23.359 of them might be just neutral. They're just out here 2073 01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:25.359 to take a little sample and they're out of here. 2074 01:43:25.399 --> 01:43:28.000 And you may take that experience as evil because like 2075 01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:31.079 not to take away antoprobing. Fine, it's got such a 2076 01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:35.079 stigma of nightmares. They say nightmares, sure, but like you said, 2077 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:37.439 the chip in the ear, Let's say that if an 2078 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:40.640 alien came to you and you felt like a needle 2079 01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:42.800 go behind your ear, it didn't kill you, But then 2080 01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:44.880 the next day you've got like a bump behind your ear. 2081 01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:48.600 You might take that as evil, but in reality, it 2082 01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.640 was scientists on a mission and they were chipping a 2083 01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:55.560 new subject, if you will. And it wasn't inherently good 2084 01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.319 or evil. It was just kind of a scientific neutral 2085 01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:00.199 kind of thing. But it's about how did you take 2086 01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:03.359 it with your perspective. I see aliens as being able 2087 01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:05.079 to be across the entire spectrum on. 2088 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:08.960 That well, and even comparatively, I mean even the demons 2089 01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:10.760 or the fallen ones or whatever. They used to all 2090 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:13.239 be angels, right, or they used to all be like 2091 01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:16.600 in God's realm, right, so that they were all one thing, 2092 01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:19.000 and then some of them converted and you know what 2093 01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:21.239 I mean, yeah, like, and so maybe that that even 2094 01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:24.840 proves the almost dualistic nature of everything at that point. 2095 01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.079 Right, So, whether you're talking about will, whether you're. 2096 01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:30.600 Talking about good aliens, bad aliens, demons, angels, us. You know, 2097 01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:32.319 there's some really great people out there, there's some really 2098 01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:34.239 shitty people out there. You just made the dog grifference. 2099 01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:35.800 Some of them will bite you, some of them will 2100 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.279 save your fucking life. It's just like the dualistic kind 2101 01:44:38.319 --> 01:44:41.399 of nature. And I don't know. I like, this is 2102 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:42.960 a fun thing. This is a fun conversation. 2103 01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:45.279 Oh, I agree, And I think that that also goes 2104 01:44:45.319 --> 01:44:48.720 towards like existence can't happen unless we have free will. 2105 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:50.640 And I know that a lot of people will disagree 2106 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:52.880 with me on that, and they believe in destiny and fate, 2107 01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:55.520 and I don't necessarily disagree with those either, but I 2108 01:44:55.560 --> 01:44:58.920 believe that those are also happening interwoven at the same time, 2109 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.000 and it take way religiosity out of it. I think 2110 01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:04.680 that we inherently have the free will to do and 2111 01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:06.840 be and say and act however the hell we want. 2112 01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:09.840 There's consequences for that in this life and the one after, 2113 01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:11.880 and all that with you one hundred percent. But I 2114 01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:16.000 believe the aliens, angels, demons, all these things also have 2115 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:21.079 free will. Otherwise the harmonious balance of what makes existence 2116 01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:22.880 exist can't work. 2117 01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:27.560 Yeah, yeah, for sure, just my perspective. Yeah yeah, I mean, 2118 01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:31.119 you know, like a fly has free will. Does it 2119 01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:34.079 want to go fly? You know, with I don't know, 2120 01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:36.840 does it want to go eat shit? Or does it 2121 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:38.600 want to just go be off in the wind or 2122 01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:40.880 be stuck in your fucking window or whatever? 2123 01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:43.800 You know, all right, So talking about flies insects, let's 2124 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:46.760 talk about insectoids as far as aliens are concerned. 2125 01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:49.239 Now, again, just my beliefs. 2126 01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:52.479 I believe that certain creatures are completely instinct driven, and 2127 01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:54.920 they don't have hopes and dreams and aspirations and all 2128 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:59.039 of these things. It's strictly survivalists. It is strictly based 2129 01:45:59.079 --> 01:46:02.720 off of instinct. Exactly, lower mind, if you will. I 2130 01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:07.840 believe insectoid aliens might be of that variety. They might 2131 01:46:07.880 --> 01:46:10.279 be more of a hive mind, if you will, and 2132 01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:12.680 they're only out to accomplish one goal, and that is 2133 01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:15.760 to survive. Right now, I could be wrong, and maybe 2134 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.840 there are some insectoid aliens that are operating at a 2135 01:46:18.880 --> 01:46:21.319 mental capacity that we cannot even perceive, and they are 2136 01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:22.760 way more intelligent than we are. 2137 01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:24.880 It's possible, but it. 2138 01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:27.439 Leads more credence to me that they would be more 2139 01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:29.760 of the drones, if you will. They go out, they 2140 01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:31.520 perform their function, they get the fuck out of there, 2141 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:32.520 whatever the case might be. 2142 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:37.279 Right right, like, maybe a mosquito doesn't know anything other 2143 01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:40.920 than you just suck blood, you know, That's all it knows. 2144 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.840 Exactly, So to say that an insectoid alien, the praying mantis, 2145 01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.920 droid like exactly. They're not over here trying to break 2146 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.079 the laws of physics and do scientific research. They're performing 2147 01:46:52.079 --> 01:46:54.199 a surgery of types for whatever that purpose is, and 2148 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:56.800 they're kicking you out afterwards and they're gone. It's just 2149 01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.199 very possible. But that being said, there's more than just 2150 01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:02.760 the insectoids. There's more than just the grees, there's more 2151 01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:05.159 than just the reptilians. This is why I believe there's 2152 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:07.880 more species of aliens out there than we perceive. 2153 01:47:07.960 --> 01:47:08.159 Now. 2154 01:47:08.199 --> 01:47:11.039 Some of those might be the interdimensional variety. Some of 2155 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:13.439 those might be from a galaxy to galaxies away or 2156 01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:15.319 something like that. I think all of them are so 2157 01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.279 possible and very much within the realm of the conversation 2158 01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:18.720 for sure. 2159 01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:21.199 Well, and this is why the conversation that he brings 2160 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:24.560 up as far as evolving consciously or spiritually or something 2161 01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:26.920 like that, if you think about it, you know, you 2162 01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:30.239 can be of that lower mind, of that animalistic kind 2163 01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:33.359 of primal mind. You're just here to eat, sleep and fuk. 2164 01:47:33.399 --> 01:47:34.000 You know what I mean. 2165 01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:36.279 That's all you really care about, that's all you think about. 2166 01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:39.079 That's lower mind. You can almost call that droid like, right, 2167 01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:41.520 like you can almost call that droid like, but you 2168 01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:45.199 do have the capability of transcending those things and seeing 2169 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:48.640 more beautiful things and the different perspectives of the nature 2170 01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:50.600 of reality and stuff like that, and that would be 2171 01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:52.960 almost like what he's trying to say is almost like 2172 01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.439 raising your consciousness, that you're not necessarily succumbing to your 2173 01:47:56.520 --> 01:47:59.279 droid like nature of what it means to be a human, 2174 01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:03.600 but you're a sending spiritually and you're having more awareness 2175 01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:06.159 and your third eyes opening up and all that kind 2176 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:08.560 of stuff. So whenever people talk about this, I feel 2177 01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.880 like people might think, like, oh man, he's getting woo 2178 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:11.239 woo wee. 2179 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:13.119 He's talking about consciousness and stuff like. 2180 01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:16.800 It's like, dude, we need to understand that seriously, because 2181 01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:18.560 there are a lot of people out there that are 2182 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.359 very only animalistic in their mind. It's fight or flight 2183 01:48:21.399 --> 01:48:25.199 all day, and some people are motivated by fear. That's 2184 01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:27.359 all they That's all they gotta do, you know, Like 2185 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:29.279 I gotta go to work. Are also I'm gonna get 2186 01:48:29.319 --> 01:48:30.920 kicked out of my house, or all right, I gotta 2187 01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:33.520 go to work, or my car's gonna get repolled, or 2188 01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:35.000 I got to take care of my kids or all 2189 01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:37.359 CPS is gonna come get them. It's like an you're 2190 01:48:37.399 --> 01:48:39.920 operating out of fear, which is a lower vibration. And 2191 01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:41.840 what this guy's trying to say, and what many others 2192 01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:45.960 have tried to say, whether it be psychedelic experience or 2193 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:49.840 alien experience, or religious experience or whatever, is to transcend 2194 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.279 that lower mind to become more, because we all have 2195 01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:55.800 the capability of becoming more. So just want to clarify 2196 01:48:55.800 --> 01:48:57.600 that for anybody who just thinks of this conversation as 2197 01:48:57.640 --> 01:48:59.520 woo wood that like, there's some real shit about it. 2198 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:01.640 Oh, one hundred percent. 2199 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:04.720 So now getting back to the story here, right, So 2200 01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:07.640 he wrote a book about his first experience and he 2201 01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:10.159 breaks it all down, start to finish. 2202 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:12.680 Now what do you do after the book? 2203 01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:14.840 Well, there's still more to the book that I wanted 2204 01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:18.560 to get to. So it says, as Strieber shares his 2205 01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:22.119 experience in the book, he draws parallels to ancient mythologies, 2206 01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:26.199 religious visitations, and folklore. He speculates that these visitors have 2207 01:49:26.279 --> 01:49:30.079 interacted with humanity throughout history, appearing as oh. 2208 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:32.960 Fuck me, we were just talking about this. There we go. 2209 01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:36.880 He speculates that these visitors have interacted with humanity throughout history, 2210 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:40.560 appearing as angels, demons, or gods in earlier times. He 2211 01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:43.680 theorizes that their goal may be to awaken human consciousness 2212 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.600 or to guide us through some kind of evolutionary transition. 2213 01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:51.560 Streeber's courage to publish Communion inspired thousands of people around 2214 01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:54.479 the world to come forward with similar stories. The book 2215 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:58.000 helped validate the experiences of abductees and launched a wave 2216 01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:01.800 of serious public discussion about alien contact. And then the 2217 01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:05.880 book finishes. It says the journey of mystery not certainty. 2218 01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:11.680 So Communion is not a conventional alien book. It's deeply introspective, philosophical, 2219 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:14.720 and often unsettling. Streeber does not claim to have all 2220 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:17.399 the answers. Instead, he invites the reader to sit with 2221 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:21.720 the mystery. Are the visitors real? Are they benevolent or manipulative? 2222 01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:25.239 Are they a reflection of our own psyche? Or actual 2223 01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:29.560 beings from another realm. Streeber's ultimate message is that something 2224 01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:34.039 is that, something deeply strange and intelligent is interacting with humanity, 2225 01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:37.279 and it may require a total transformation of consciousness to 2226 01:50:37.319 --> 01:50:40.479 truly understand it. In the end, Communion is less about 2227 01:50:40.479 --> 01:50:43.880 aliens and more about the fragility of reality, the mystery 2228 01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:46.840 of the mind, and the terrifying beauty of the unknown. 2229 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:49.520 Fuck, I need to read that now. 2230 01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:54.319 Wow, that sounds awesome. So then he had other books, 2231 01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:56.920 and we're gonna delve into those because it's more of 2232 01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.880 like the evolution, the next steps and maybe what he 2233 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.279 he you know, meditates on or experiences more or something 2234 01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:07.960 like that. So it says each one dives deeper into 2235 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:12.319 the mystery of introduced mystery introduced in Communion, but approaches 2236 01:51:12.359 --> 01:51:15.880 it with new insights and levels of depth. So the 2237 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:21.399 next book that was came after Communion is Transformation, that 2238 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:24.199 came out in eighty eight, so right the year after 2239 01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:26.960 or no, he wrote the first book in eighty eighty seven, 2240 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:29.840 wasn't it? Yeah, eighty seven, And then the next book 2241 01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:33.319 comes out in eighty eight called Transformation. So in Transformation, 2242 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:35.640 Streeber and these are shorter, I just wanted to dive 2243 01:51:35.640 --> 01:51:39.880 a little bit deeper into community. But in Transformation, Streeber 2244 01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:42.920 continues to explore his contact with the visitors, but the 2245 01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.560 focus shifts from fear to spiritual awakening. He begins to 2246 01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:50.439 interpret the experiences less as alien Abductions is in more 2247 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.119 as a kind of mystical initiation process. The trauma is 2248 01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:59.239 still present, strange beings, paralyzing encounters, and moments of raw terror, 2249 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.880 but now now there's a growing recognition that something profound 2250 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:07.840 and possibly benevolent is at work. Strieber shares his new encounters, 2251 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:13.159 including visions of humanity's futures, of humanity's future, and increasingly 2252 01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:17.520 symbolic dreamlike experiences. The central theme of Transformation to the 2253 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:21.239 book is a personal evolution. Streeber grapples with how the 2254 01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:24.319 visitors seem to be challenging him to grow beyond ordinary 2255 01:52:24.399 --> 01:52:27.960 human consciousness. He suggests that their methods, though invasive and 2256 01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:31.079 often terrifying, are designed to break down his ego and 2257 01:52:31.159 --> 01:52:35.520 expand his awareness. He compares their presence to ancient initiatory rights, 2258 01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:39.159 where initiates must face death to be spiritually reborn. The 2259 01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:42.199 book becomes not just a recounting of events, but in 2260 01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:47.520 meditation on consciousness, mortality, and transcendence. Streeber also widens his lens, 2261 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.920 connecting his experiences with historical, spiritual teachings and mythological archetypes. 2262 01:52:52.840 --> 01:52:56.439 He theorizes that these entities have been guiding humanity behind 2263 01:52:56.479 --> 01:53:00.600 the scenes for millennia. Unlike Communion, which leans means into 2264 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:05.359 terror and mystery, Transformation is more speculative and philosophical. It 2265 01:53:05.399 --> 01:53:08.039 marks a turning point in his journey from victim of 2266 01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:15.279 the unknown to a willing participant in a grand metaphysical experiment. Wook, 2267 01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.520 sign me up, baby, sign me up. 2268 01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:20.000 I'm reading all these Oh yeah. 2269 01:53:20.039 --> 01:53:23.640 The next book that came after was Breakthrough, and this 2270 01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.199 was six years later, in nineteen ninety five. So a 2271 01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:29.800 Breakthrough is Streeber's attempt to consolidate and make sense of 2272 01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:33.239 his years long contact with the visitors. By this point, 2273 01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:36.039 he's more confident in his belief that the experiences are real, 2274 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:39.119 but still mysterious. He now frames the encounters as part 2275 01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:42.039 of a long term relationship between these beings and humanity. 2276 01:53:42.359 --> 01:53:45.640 While still strange and often unsettling, the tone is more constructive. 2277 01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:49.119 Streeber now asked the question what is the purpose behind 2278 01:53:49.159 --> 01:53:53.239 these contacts? In this book, he begins to focus on communication, 2279 01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:56.560 not just telepathy or symbols, but what the visitors are 2280 01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:59.079 trying to teach us. He suggests that the human soul 2281 01:53:59.119 --> 01:54:01.960 may be at the center of their interest. He introduces 2282 01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:05.319 the concept of communion of souls, a sort of spiritual 2283 01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:08.479 network or higher consciousness that the visitors may be connected to. 2284 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:11.479 He also discusses the possibility that these beings are either 2285 01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:15.760 monitoring or influencing our development, perhaps even warning us about 2286 01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:20.479 environmental or societal collapse. Strieber also touches more explicitly on 2287 01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:25.000 cover ups and secrecy he suggests. He suggests that intelligence 2288 01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:28.520 agencies may be aware of the visitors and possibly interacting 2289 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:31.800 with them. There are stories of surveillance interference and a 2290 01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:35.640 sense that certain powerful forces do not want this information 2291 01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:39.880 becoming public. But above all, Breakthrough reinforces his central message, 2292 01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:42.880 which is that we must overcome fear if we are 2293 01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:46.279 to understand what is really happening. Contact with these beings 2294 01:54:46.359 --> 01:54:49.760 isn't about aliens, It's about human evolution, the mystery of 2295 01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:54.119 the soul, and are forgotten place in the cosmos. That 2296 01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:57.520 sounds like a fun book. And then there's one more book. 2297 01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:00.640 I'll just read the read it quickly here, So the 2298 01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.279 last book on this category. I don't know if he 2299 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:06.960 wrote more books after this or not, but I'm sure, 2300 01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.600 I mean why not. I mean a writer going right? 2301 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.359 You know, podcasts are going podcast that's what we do. 2302 01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:17.760 So then so He wrote that that previous book Breakthrough 2303 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:20.079 in ninety five. Then in ninety six he wrote another 2304 01:55:20.119 --> 01:55:23.720 book called The Secret School. So in The Secret School, 2305 01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:27.199 Streemer turns the clock back and examined strange memories from 2306 01:55:27.239 --> 01:55:31.479 his childhood Oh Here we Go, revealing that his contact 2307 01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:34.600 experiences may have started much earlier than he realized. He 2308 01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:38.000 recalls being taken along with other children to what he 2309 01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:41.920 describes as a secret school where mysterious beings taught lessons 2310 01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:45.520 about the stars, consciousness, and destiny. These early memories had 2311 01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:48.199 long been buried in the book acts as a recovery 2312 01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:51.760 of forgotten knowledge. The quote unquote school wasn't a physical 2313 01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:55.119 place in the traditional sense. It felt like a liminal space, 2314 01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:59.319 both real and dream like. The lessons he remembers weren't academic, 2315 01:55:59.359 --> 01:56:03.399 but cosmic, learning about death, time, spiritual power, and humanity's 2316 01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:06.439 role in the universe. He speculates that these teachings were 2317 01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:09.439 meant to prepare certain people to help guide humanity through 2318 01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:13.279 a coming shift. The book blurs the lines between mystical initiation, 2319 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:18.560 abduction narrative, and metaphysical allegory, Unlike his earlier books, which 2320 01:56:18.680 --> 01:56:22.840 focus heavily on adult trauma and confusion. The Secret School 2321 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:26.720 has a nostalgic and almost sacred tone. It presents a 2322 01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:31.119 more hopeful picture of the Visitor phenomena, not as an invasion, 2323 01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:34.880 but as a form of divine instruction. Strieber suggests that 2324 01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:38.640 there may be others like him, initiated in childhood, forgotten 2325 01:56:39.119 --> 01:56:42.000 and now awakening to their mission. The Secret School may 2326 01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:45.279 be ancient, timeless, and still active in the shadows of 2327 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:45.840 our lives. 2328 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:47.720 Wow. 2329 01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:52.159 Either he's a one hell of an imagination on him, 2330 01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:56.039 which we know he does, or dude, just can you 2331 01:56:56.079 --> 01:57:01.640 put yourself in the frame of mind that what if 2332 01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:02.319 this is real? 2333 01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:05.840 Like? What if he's not full of shit? Oh? 2334 01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:09.880 I don't at this moment believe that he inherently is, Okay, 2335 01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.000 I think that he is drawing on a lot of 2336 01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:15.479 things that sound very esoteric and very occult. 2337 01:57:16.239 --> 01:57:18.760 Right at least rhymes with that. 2338 01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:23.640 And I'm not saying that his experience wasn't necessarily esoteric 2339 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:26.760 and what some might call a cult like in nature. 2340 01:57:28.239 --> 01:57:30.319 It's interesting, it's very interesting. 2341 01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:31.720 Brouh. 2342 01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:34.399 I put up an article about the guy, and I 2343 01:57:34.439 --> 01:57:36.560 don't know if we need to read it. If we 2344 01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:39.760 are gonna keep our third eye all the way open, then, 2345 01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:41.800 like all the way open. 2346 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:43.159 We need to look at it from all sides. 2347 01:57:43.199 --> 01:57:44.880 But I also don't want it to seem like I 2348 01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:46.760 want to throw shade at the guy because I don't. 2349 01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:49.439 I don't inherently think that he's a liar or anything 2350 01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:53.159 like that. It's it's just like I'm listening to this 2351 01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:56.439 and the first story of his experience and the abduction 2352 01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:59.920 and all that interesting, fascinating with Johanna. 2353 01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:03.640 It's like the more he looks back on it, the more. 2354 01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:05.800 He's trying to make sense of it in a way 2355 01:58:05.840 --> 01:58:09.399 as one does, and right, right, right, And the way 2356 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:12.039 that he has made the most sense out of it 2357 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:18.399 is seemingly of a very esoteric flavoring, which sure, which 2358 01:58:18.399 --> 01:58:21.279 I vibe with personally, right, no doubt, no doubt. 2359 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.119 Not to say that it's right or wrong. I mean, 2360 01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:25.520 I'm not saying that I one hundred percent believe it. 2361 01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:28.199 I'm just I like to put myself whenever we hear 2362 01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:30.840 stories like out there kind of stories like this, or 2363 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:33.119 out there kind of conspiracies. And I know a lot 2364 01:58:33.119 --> 01:58:36.239 of people are like, oh, Jonathan, he just fucking believes everything. 2365 01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:37.960 It's it's not like that. 2366 01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:40.720 I just want people to understand how my mind works 2367 01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:43.960 and why I tend to like agree with everybody, especially 2368 01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:45.720 in the realm of like while we're. 2369 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:46.119 On the show. 2370 01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:50.720 It's because the only way I can personally understand something 2371 01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.520 is if I believe every word that this person is 2372 01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:57.319 telling me, and then afterward I kind of gather my 2373 01:58:57.399 --> 01:59:00.920 thoughts and then I'm like, Okay, well, this is where 2374 01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.640 I may disagree, this is where I may agree whatever, 2375 01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:06.119 But I always try and put myself in the in 2376 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:09.640 the realm of believing it before trying to dice it 2377 01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:11.520 up and call it bullshit, Like I like to hear 2378 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:14.439 the whole fucking thing, and then I'll come to a 2379 01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:17.119 conclusion that's where I that's where That's how my mind 2380 01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:18.760 works personally, and you. 2381 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:20.600 And me are very different in that regard as well. 2382 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:24.439 Like even in high school, right whenever your teacher would 2383 01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:27.600 be teaching you a new concept, something you had never 2384 01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:31.880 heard before, and not just history write something like that math, 2385 01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:36.119 they're teaching you algebra two, and it's a concept that like, yeah, 2386 01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:37.279 you can see on the board, you see all the 2387 01:59:37.319 --> 01:59:37.880 numbers work. 2388 01:59:37.920 --> 01:59:39.680 You understand that this does work. 2389 01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:43.640 But you would take like, okay, I'm just gonna initially 2390 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:46.199 write out the rip, assume that this is all true, 2391 01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:49.159 and just go from there and then dissect it. I 2392 01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:51.600 am on the opposite scale of it. I'm dissecting it 2393 01:59:51.800 --> 01:59:54.119 as I see it. Sometimes it doesn't make sense to me. 2394 01:59:54.199 --> 01:59:57.199 Sometimes I need a little more clarification on things, and 2395 01:59:57.279 --> 02:00:00.000 I kind of ask questions as I go along, because 2396 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:04.800 because that's how that's how I gain an understanding of something. Yeah, 2397 02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:06.960 I stain things you can hear and you just like, Okay, 2398 02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:08.720 you could see all the pieces fit together, and it's 2399 02:00:08.720 --> 02:00:11.800 all good. Some of those Okay, the pieces fit together, 2400 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:14.159 but I don't understand how they fit together. Can you 2401 02:00:14.199 --> 02:00:15.840 break that one down for me a little bit further, 2402 02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:16.720 you know what I mean? 2403 02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:17.439 Yeah, I guess. 2404 02:00:17.479 --> 02:00:22.159 And whenever I'm learning something new. I've never seen myself 2405 02:00:22.199 --> 02:00:24.920 as the brightest kid. I got straight c's whenever I 2406 02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:27.640 was in school. I did barely the fucking bare minimum 2407 02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:29.960 just to get by because I knew for sure I 2408 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:31.920 was not going to go going to go to college, 2409 02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:33.159 and if I was, it was going to be on 2410 02:00:33.199 --> 02:00:35.600 a football scholarship. That was the only thing I really 2411 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:38.960 gave a fuck about, right, Yeah, I just wasn't interested 2412 02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:42.479 in doing these things that was just my mentality. But 2413 02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:45.640 whenever I was trying to understand, I would assume that, 2414 02:00:45.880 --> 02:00:48.479 all right, well, this is the story. I want to 2415 02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:52.319 try and learn it through your perspective first, because maybe 2416 02:00:52.359 --> 02:00:56.199 my perspective isn't broad enough to really grasp the reality 2417 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:59.199 of what I'm trying to be taught and trying to learn. 2418 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:01.720 So I want to learn it from the other person's perspective. 2419 02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:03.319 That's probably the best way that I can put it, 2420 02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:05.479 is that I'm trying to get into their mind and 2421 02:01:05.720 --> 02:01:06.640 outside of mine. 2422 02:01:07.439 --> 02:01:08.920 I could never do that, man. 2423 02:01:09.199 --> 02:01:11.840 I'll tell you exactly the class where I really had 2424 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.399 to start questioning things as it was being told to me. 2425 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:17.279 Freshman year of high school, I had a Civics teacher. 2426 02:01:17.399 --> 02:01:19.760 All right, miss McCrory. I will never forget this woman. 2427 02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:23.720 I loved her to death. But here here was the situation. Okay, 2428 02:01:23.760 --> 02:01:26.439 we walk in. There was a big old wall sign 2429 02:01:26.520 --> 02:01:28.800 on one of her walls saying agree, and on the 2430 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:31.039 other side it was a big old sign saying disagree. 2431 02:01:31.600 --> 02:01:35.000 And once a week she would bring up something could 2432 02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:38.600 be anything, could be the use of nuclear warheads, could 2433 02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:44.079 be gay rights, could be, gun laws, could be something 2434 02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:46.079 from class because I also had her for Civics and 2435 02:01:46.119 --> 02:01:49.239 then American history, so it could be something from history, right, 2436 02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:53.119 whatever the case was, just a situation is presented to 2437 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:56.000 the class, and you would go sit on the side 2438 02:01:56.000 --> 02:01:57.920 that most aligned with you. And if you didn't know, 2439 02:01:58.000 --> 02:01:59.680 there was even a section in the middle for neutral 2440 02:01:59.880 --> 02:02:01.439 or I don't know, or I needed to learn a 2441 02:02:01.439 --> 02:02:03.319 little bit more about it, whatever the case is. And 2442 02:02:03.439 --> 02:02:05.279 as class would go on, we would have an open 2443 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:08.640 form debate and you would move. There would be kids 2444 02:02:08.680 --> 02:02:10.800 that would move whenever they learned new information about a 2445 02:02:10.840 --> 02:02:15.000 topic or whatever the case might be. But she, although 2446 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:17.319 she did a very good job of presenting the question, 2447 02:02:18.079 --> 02:02:22.439 she was a bleeding heart liberal, bleeding heart liberal, and 2448 02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:26.239 she wasn't shy about it. She didn't look down on anybody, 2449 02:02:26.319 --> 02:02:28.760 or she wasn't disrespectful to a kid who was ultra 2450 02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:30.119 conservative or anything like that. 2451 02:02:30.640 --> 02:02:31.920 But you would tell there'd be. 2452 02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:34.479 Like slight little digs, slight little nudges to where you 2453 02:02:34.560 --> 02:02:37.199 knew where she lined up. And she would propose certain 2454 02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:39.479 questions in a way, and she would propose questions on this, 2455 02:02:39.600 --> 02:02:40.760 or she would play devil's advocates. 2456 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:41.560 She did it very well. 2457 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.199 But I learned very early on that even though the 2458 02:02:45.279 --> 02:02:47.920 question just got asked and I could just go off 2459 02:02:47.960 --> 02:02:51.319 of it, what did you mean by that? Explain this 2460 02:02:51.439 --> 02:02:54.000 point before I even take a stance on this. I 2461 02:02:54.039 --> 02:02:56.680 want to know exactly what you're asking because you may 2462 02:02:56.680 --> 02:02:58.479 have just given it to me in a certain way 2463 02:02:58.520 --> 02:03:01.439 through a certain lens, and I don't. I don't get 2464 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:05.600 down like that. So and I understand why that was 2465 02:03:05.640 --> 02:03:08.039 the point. She didn't want kids to take it right 2466 02:03:08.079 --> 02:03:09.840 off the rip at face value, or maybe if you're 2467 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:11.760 initially gonna do that, you would sit down that seat, 2468 02:03:11.760 --> 02:03:14.239 but as the class would continue, you would shift over 2469 02:03:14.279 --> 02:03:16.600 and you go to a different spot, whatever the case is, right, 2470 02:03:17.319 --> 02:03:19.279 And so from that day I pretty much was like, okay, 2471 02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:22.119 so I'm just gonna get all the information I can 2472 02:03:22.279 --> 02:03:26.359 period before I say yeay or nay to any fucking thing, right. 2473 02:03:26.279 --> 02:03:28.920 And I think that I guess I just looked at 2474 02:03:28.920 --> 02:03:32.199 it differently because I always just assumed that, like, who 2475 02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:35.279 am I to assume that my lens is the correct 2476 02:03:35.279 --> 02:03:38.000 one to even be able to justify if this person's 2477 02:03:38.079 --> 02:03:39.239 lens is correct or not? 2478 02:03:39.439 --> 02:03:39.920 Like I didn't. 2479 02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:42.560 I never looked at anything politically, especially in high school. 2480 02:03:42.560 --> 02:03:44.840 I didn't know shit about politics. I never paid attention 2481 02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.119 to what was happening in politics. I didn't care. I 2482 02:03:47.159 --> 02:03:49.600 still don't care, Like honestly, I literally don't give a 2483 02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:52.479 fuck about anything political unless it's on this show. 2484 02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:55.520 Then we dive into it, and you know, that's that story. 2485 02:03:55.560 --> 02:03:59.399 But I never looked at anything through a lens, because 2486 02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:02.439 once you used to looking at certain things through your 2487 02:04:02.479 --> 02:04:06.279 own lens, it's almost impossible to be able to connect 2488 02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:09.279 to the other person, to connect to the other story, 2489 02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:12.720 because now it's almost like that lens is giving you 2490 02:04:12.920 --> 02:04:16.119 almost right to judge before you even finish the story 2491 02:04:16.239 --> 02:04:18.560 or before you even understand the other perspective. You know 2492 02:04:18.600 --> 02:04:21.359 what I'm saying, Judge, judge not and like, oh this 2493 02:04:21.399 --> 02:04:23.760 person's demand. Not that I'm not saying like that in 2494 02:04:23.800 --> 02:04:26.640 that sense, but like, I try not to have a 2495 02:04:26.680 --> 02:04:31.039 specific frame of reference because then it won't allow me 2496 02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:34.279 to really fully connect and understand. And that's that's basically, 2497 02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:36.560 that's all I was trying to say about how I interpret, 2498 02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:39.439 you know, stories and stuff like this. I mean, look, 2499 02:04:39.479 --> 02:04:42.920 whether it's real or not. Like I'm interested in the esoteric. 2500 02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.600 I love when people start getting esoteric and more deeply 2501 02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:48.960 intertwined into the spiritual understanding about what it means, because 2502 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:52.039 we know that we're temporarily here. We know that we're 2503 02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:55.279 just fucking souls inside of meat suits. So let's understand 2504 02:04:55.319 --> 02:04:59.039 what the soul meaning behind it is, because what purpose 2505 02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:05.279 does it even like make it to understand uh, human 2506 02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:08.640 physical reality if it's only a fucking fart in the 2507 02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:10.399 wind compared to the soul, which is eternal. 2508 02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:12.279 That's the way I kind of look at it, you know, 2509 02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:14.680 I agree. I agree that. 2510 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:16.680 I mean, for my own beliefs, I believe that what 2511 02:05:16.720 --> 02:05:18.600 we do in this life will affect us in the 2512 02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:19.119 next one. 2513 02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:20.640 So I mean, and you could take it to a 2514 02:05:20.720 --> 02:05:21.800 karmic way. 2515 02:05:21.640 --> 02:05:23.199 Right exactly. 2516 02:05:23.359 --> 02:05:27.319 Yeah, yeah, it does play into what happens next, whether 2517 02:05:27.399 --> 02:05:31.520 that be final judgment or the next cycle. How you're 2518 02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:34.199 born and what level you're born into and all these things, 2519 02:05:34.239 --> 02:05:34.479 you know. 2520 02:05:34.560 --> 02:05:36.119 So that's the thing. 2521 02:05:36.279 --> 02:05:38.760 We got to understand that, yes, we are physical entities, 2522 02:05:38.800 --> 02:05:40.600 and while we're only here, like you said, for a 2523 02:05:40.640 --> 02:05:42.920 fart in the wind, a fucking vapor in the wind, 2524 02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:46.520 as some texts might say, we do got to take 2525 02:05:46.560 --> 02:05:49.000 every second of it as a gift. We got to 2526 02:05:49.039 --> 02:05:52.560 apply ourselves to the absolute best that we can for 2527 02:05:52.600 --> 02:05:53.880 the next journey. 2528 02:05:54.319 --> 02:05:55.359 Sure that may look. 2529 02:05:55.199 --> 02:05:58.079 Like yeah, sure, sure, so you know what, I'm actually 2530 02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:00.800 gonna go against you here for a second. I don't 2531 02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:03.840 want to hear the negativity that's being talked about, because 2532 02:06:03.880 --> 02:06:06.039 I want people to listen to this and just sit 2533 02:06:06.079 --> 02:06:08.520 with it, like what do you think from it? From 2534 02:06:08.600 --> 02:06:11.720 you know, an actual standpoint, through your own specific lens, 2535 02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:13.920 before you start to hear backstories. And I don't even 2536 02:06:13.920 --> 02:06:15.880 know the backstory. I don't know the shit that's connected 2537 02:06:15.880 --> 02:06:16.279 to this story. 2538 02:06:16.319 --> 02:06:16.920 I don't. I don't. 2539 02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:20.000 I literally just started researching this today and it was 2540 02:06:20.079 --> 02:06:23.279 more so aligning with like what's the story? How did 2541 02:06:23.319 --> 02:06:25.359 it go? How is he presenting it? That kind of 2542 02:06:25.399 --> 02:06:29.079 thing whenever you start getting into like, okay, maybe he 2543 02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:33.079 and I don't know the story, but just I, for example, 2544 02:06:33.239 --> 02:06:35.920 maybe he like scapegoaded on his taxes and didn't pay 2545 02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:37.319 him Like, oh, I don't care, you. 2546 02:06:37.279 --> 02:06:41.479 Know, like I glazed over the article briefly, and some 2547 02:06:41.640 --> 02:06:45.079 of it is strictly hatred. It's somebody sip and hater 2548 02:06:45.239 --> 02:06:48.399 raid way too hard for sure. There are sections of 2549 02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:50.119 it where they show that he has also been a 2550 02:06:50.159 --> 02:06:52.520 fan of the occult for years and years and has 2551 02:06:52.520 --> 02:06:56.039 followed the teachings of two different Armenian occultists and so, 2552 02:06:56.600 --> 02:06:59.399 and I don't know if that necessary plays in or not. 2553 02:06:59.600 --> 02:07:01.800 Are me and occultists? You don't hear about that? 2554 02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:03.960 Yeah, yeah, there's two of them. 2555 02:07:04.039 --> 02:07:05.760 I actually, as I was kind of typing because some 2556 02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:07.800 of those words, I saw these words at the bottom, 2557 02:07:07.840 --> 02:07:08.760 and I'm like, that is. 2558 02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:11.760 That a person? Is that philosophy? What is this? 2559 02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:16.640 They are two scholars that also delved into esotericism and 2560 02:07:16.680 --> 02:07:19.520 mysticism and things like that and all. So to say 2561 02:07:19.560 --> 02:07:22.920 that this his experience, I'm not taking away from it. 2562 02:07:22.680 --> 02:07:25.159 It's I'm not saying that I one hundred percent believe 2563 02:07:25.199 --> 02:07:27.439 him or one hundred percent and trying to debunk him 2564 02:07:27.520 --> 02:07:27.880 at all. 2565 02:07:28.159 --> 02:07:28.760 I'm taking it. 2566 02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:31.479 At face value that he had an experience that MRI 2567 02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:34.039 scan that he has. I'm taking it at face value 2568 02:07:34.039 --> 02:07:36.600 that he absolutely has a chip implanted in his brain. 2569 02:07:37.319 --> 02:07:38.279 I'm with you, Yeah, I guess. 2570 02:07:38.319 --> 02:07:40.640 I just I don't want people to hear you know, 2571 02:07:40.760 --> 02:07:42.640 And like I said, I don't know the information, but 2572 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:44.600 people are real quick to throw the baby out with 2573 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:47.520 the bathwater, and I don't want that to get lost 2574 02:07:47.720 --> 02:07:51.159 in that narrative, you know what I'm saying, Because you can, 2575 02:07:51.279 --> 02:07:53.079 you can be a piece of shit and still have 2576 02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:55.279 an alien experience, you know what I'm saying, Like it 2577 02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:59.760 still is possible, Like bad people go have amazing experiences 2578 02:07:59.760 --> 02:08:00.960 all the time, you know. 2579 02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:02.920 So that's where I'm I'm wrong. 2580 02:08:03.279 --> 02:08:06.359 Chris Bledsoe is of the Christian variety, is he not? 2581 02:08:06.720 --> 02:08:07.680 Or Am I making that up? 2582 02:08:07.800 --> 02:08:08.880 Yeah? Yeah, he's a Christian. 2583 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.239 Okay, So this could be looked at in a very 2584 02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:18.680 similar but different light. Okay, So Bledsoe sees these orbs 2585 02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:20.720 and he believes they are something angelic. 2586 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:26.560 Correct, not in the traditional sense, but more of like 2587 02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:31.600 the I guess you would say New age sense. Interesting, 2588 02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:36.479 he combines, he combines the esoteric with his Christian understanding, 2589 02:08:36.600 --> 02:08:39.199 Like they're not separate. It's just that he looks at 2590 02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:41.560 the Bible in a different way, like he interprets it 2591 02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:42.399 in a different way. 2592 02:08:42.479 --> 02:08:43.680 So, I mean each of their own. 2593 02:08:43.680 --> 02:08:45.960 I mean there's eight hundred different sectors of Christianity anyway, 2594 02:08:46.000 --> 02:08:47.399 I mean, what's what's eight hundred and one? 2595 02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:47.960 You know what I mean? 2596 02:08:48.039 --> 02:08:48.159 Right? 2597 02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:50.119 But that's kind of a point. 2598 02:08:50.279 --> 02:08:53.640 So he is making the most sense he can out 2599 02:08:53.640 --> 02:08:56.359 of the experience that he is having, right, and through 2600 02:08:56.439 --> 02:09:00.600 his lens, he is putting it to a Christian christ Esque, 2601 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.800 whatever you want to say, type of lens. This guy, 2602 02:09:04.520 --> 02:09:07.479 if if he has some sort of a background in 2603 02:09:08.279 --> 02:09:13.039 esotericism and he has a real interest in the mystery 2604 02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:15.640 schools of old and these types of things, it only 2605 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:17.920 makes sense to me that he would try to make 2606 02:09:17.960 --> 02:09:21.439 sense of this experience through some sort of a mysticism 2607 02:09:21.439 --> 02:09:24.399 and esoteric lens. I'm not saying that to detract from him. 2608 02:09:24.840 --> 02:09:28.159 I'm saying that any person having an experience like this, 2609 02:09:28.279 --> 02:09:31.239 especially a traumatic one like he's describing, would try to 2610 02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:33.840 make sense of that in whatever way that they can. 2611 02:09:34.199 --> 02:09:35.960 And if you're somebody that was brought up with a 2612 02:09:36.520 --> 02:09:40.560 Hindu background, you might think that this was a shape 2613 02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:44.119 shifted version of Krishna coming in and doing something to you, 2614 02:09:44.159 --> 02:09:46.000 and you would use that to try to make sense 2615 02:09:46.039 --> 02:09:47.640 of it in some way, shape or form. 2616 02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:49.520 That's all I'm saying, right. 2617 02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:52.159 It's almost like you always have to have something to 2618 02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:55.720 compare it to, you know, For example, like I played 2619 02:09:55.720 --> 02:09:57.760 football for a long time, and there was times that 2620 02:09:57.800 --> 02:09:59.960 I fucked people up, and then there was other times 2621 02:10:00.119 --> 02:10:03.039 where people fucked me up right, and of those times 2622 02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:04.840 that let's say I got I got hit by like 2623 02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:06.880 a blind side, which I got plenty of blind side 2624 02:10:06.920 --> 02:10:09.600 hits in my life. They suck, right. The only thing 2625 02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:11.680 that you can compare that to is being run over 2626 02:10:11.720 --> 02:10:12.520 by a mack truck. 2627 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:13.439 You know what I'm saying. 2628 02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:15.720 You've never been hit by a mack truck. You also 2629 02:10:15.760 --> 02:10:18.039 have no frame of reference to compare it. Again, it's 2630 02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:20.079 the only thing I can compare it to, you know. 2631 02:10:21.479 --> 02:10:24.119 So, yeah, I thought that this was This is a 2632 02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:26.800 fucking this is a very kind of like deeply almost 2633 02:10:26.840 --> 02:10:30.520 philosophical kind of conversation and I dig those. So yeah, 2634 02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:34.239 any of the good cult members you enjoy this, you 2635 02:10:34.399 --> 02:10:37.359 like the topic, Maybe you want to input your two cents. 2636 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:39.159 Maybe there was something that we missed. You know, we 2637 02:10:39.239 --> 02:10:41.920 are human, I mean, mistakes happen and stuff like that. 2638 02:10:42.039 --> 02:10:44.279 This was my research that I was able to find 2639 02:10:44.319 --> 02:10:45.680 to try and get to the core of the story. 2640 02:10:45.720 --> 02:10:48.119 What does it mean? What was he experiencing? Is the truthful? 2641 02:10:48.199 --> 02:10:50.960 Is he not? Whatever? Let us know what is the 2642 02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:52.159 best way for them to let us know? 2643 02:10:52.279 --> 02:10:55.680 Jacob, Absolutely, the best way for you to actually before 2644 02:10:55.680 --> 02:10:57.239 I even talk about the best way to let us 2645 02:10:57.279 --> 02:11:01.079 know the best way that you can install a little 2646 02:11:01.079 --> 02:11:04.439 bit of that, maybe even extra dimensional, a little bit 2647 02:11:04.439 --> 02:11:07.640 of a futuristic looking into the future to see what 2648 02:11:07.800 --> 02:11:08.560 might come to be. 2649 02:11:09.079 --> 02:11:10.880 And you know what, you decide you don't want. 2650 02:11:10.720 --> 02:11:11.680 To be poor in the future. 2651 02:11:12.079 --> 02:11:13.319 And I'm not saying you want to be rich, but 2652 02:11:13.359 --> 02:11:14.520 you at least want to have some sort of a 2653 02:11:14.520 --> 02:11:17.520 comfortable nest egg for yourself. You don't need the aliens, 2654 02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:21.159 you don't need mysticism, you don't need philosophy and prophecy 2655 02:11:21.199 --> 02:11:23.560 to tell you these things, but you do need some 2656 02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:26.079 precious metals, some silver, some gold, some bullion. What you 2657 02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:27.520 could do right now is go to the link below 2658 02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:30.399 at cocsilver dot com and check it out if you 2659 02:11:30.439 --> 02:11:31.880 want to get your start in the buying, selling, and 2660 02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:34.920 trading of gold and silver, bullion, minted coins, weight and 2661 02:11:35.159 --> 02:11:37.840 artifacts and all the things which honestly, I would call 2662 02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:38.920 some of these things artifacts. 2663 02:11:38.920 --> 02:11:42.119 There's this one. It's like a platinum scab shits fucking fire. 2664 02:11:42.319 --> 02:11:44.079 But anyway, if you would like to get your hands 2665 02:11:44.079 --> 02:11:46.039 on some of this while it's still affordable, and you 2666 02:11:46.079 --> 02:11:47.920 can do this, listen, the price of silver and gold 2667 02:11:47.960 --> 02:11:51.000 keeps going up, up, up, while you are able to 2668 02:11:51.039 --> 02:11:54.119 get your hands on some Now is the time cocsilver 2669 02:11:54.159 --> 02:11:56.560 dot com again link in the description below. 2670 02:11:57.239 --> 02:12:00.279 I like that you put down the third eye. Hell yeah, brother, absolutely? 2671 02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:00.840 Uh. 2672 02:12:00.880 --> 02:12:02.680 But the other way, what you could do to let 2673 02:12:02.760 --> 02:12:04.880 us know what you feel about this episode, what you 2674 02:12:04.880 --> 02:12:07.760 feel about our back and forth conjecture on this How 2675 02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:10.039 do you feel about our guy here? Do you think 2676 02:12:10.039 --> 02:12:11.399 that this is a hoax? Do you think that he 2677 02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:14.479 is onto something here? Do you believe that his experience 2678 02:12:14.560 --> 02:12:17.319 was esoterry? Do you believe his experience was a physical 2679 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:21.079 and interdimensional in applarents Harry whatever, let us know. We 2680 02:12:21.159 --> 02:12:24.039 want to hear your opinions, and the place and time 2681 02:12:24.119 --> 02:12:27.439 in which you could do that would be too Please hit. 2682 02:12:27.319 --> 02:12:29.159 The five stars, hit the shares of the life, suscribes, comment, 2683 02:12:29.239 --> 02:12:31.000 leave a postly review, and shares with your frience family, 2684 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:31.600 shares everyverere. 2685 02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:32.159 Here's the deal. 2686 02:12:32.399 --> 02:12:34.720 The more activity our algorithms see across all of our 2687 02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.119 listening platforms, the more we get promotes and more potential 2688 02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:39.039 listeners who could that become potential cult members? 2689 02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:40.479 Actor Steve, Fine, Ladies and gentlemen. 2690 02:12:40.640 --> 02:12:42.600 And while you're at it, why you're letting us know 2691 02:12:42.640 --> 02:12:45.319 what's going on. 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