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Speaker 4: Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for supporting

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the on the screen hanging on a second. Great Americans, Yeah,

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they are great Americans. Danny, you are absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: Indianos know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that jeep. That jeep is a

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U jank unbelievable product.

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Speaker 2: What they're they're selling it cheap.

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Speaker 1: So Danny came in and it's just Danny and I

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on this episode, and uh sorry, which is always no,

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I don't say it like that. I'm talking to the audience.

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I enjoy those, I enjoy those. I enjoy the variety

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of people on this podcast. I have come to like that.

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It was pitched to me years ago to do a

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radio show like that. Uh, and I thought, how can.

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Speaker 2: You do that? You need consistency stories. You really don't.

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Speaker 1: And when the podcast came, it just sort of by nature,

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I guess naturally just went that way because people's schedules

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are different. But everybody seemed to enjoy doing it and

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kind of locked in on certain days. And I've really

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really enjoyed that myself.

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Speaker 6: But they like those Christmas nuts that you used to get,

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remember with the nutcracker, Like you need a natural nutcracker.

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Speaker 5: To open up each nut.

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Speaker 6: Each one of us is a different variety of nut

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in the podcast, right, you got Bills the nutcracker right itself.

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And then you know, you got your wal nuts like Kevin,

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you got your Macadamian nuts.

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Speaker 1: Like me.

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Speaker 5: You got you know those other nuts that are like

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hard and dark.

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Speaker 6: And you can't really open them, you know, like the

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ones that like they look like they look like hardened

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like orange peels, but they're brown.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what they are. You got those? Yeah,

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it's it's an array of nuts.

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Speaker 2: I just went and plugged the tree and that's what

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I was doing.

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Speaker 1: So Danny came in a little early because I said,

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I have a heart out again, and I've been open

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about this and I'm not gonna go into too much detail.

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But I've been doing the talk therapy thing and I

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have an appointment this evening, and this one's gonna be different.

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And Danny has a preview as to why and all.

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Speaker 2: This stuff and heard me.

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Speaker 1: I think that may have been pretty raw moments. Was

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it not very honest?

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Speaker 5: It was very honest. So a couple of them, I will.

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Speaker 1: There is nothing that I do that I don't usually

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talk about. At some point, I'm not going to talk

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about this right now. I want to wait till after

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time to breathe after that because there are other players

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that I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want involved in it.

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Speaker 5: I can understand that it just doesn't doesn't have to

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know everything.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right, I mean, he's got to know.

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Speaker 2: That's what I heard.

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Speaker 5: I know who to dress as for Halloween.

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Speaker 4: I could just be myself, but Danny came in and

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I was.

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Speaker 2: It was on.

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Speaker 1: I haven't there's all these different platforms now, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's even a platform for platforms.

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Speaker 1: There was a you've done zoom. Yes, yeah, okay, there's

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also teams. There's teams. I did teams for many years.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so today I had a Google meet. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: If I'm not pushed, I will do nothing. And I've

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noticed that about myself. You get comfortable, you just kind

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of get your routine, and all these things that you

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have ideas to do, you don't do.

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Speaker 5: It's never a good time to do anything.

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Speaker 1: So for many, many, many, many many years, I have

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thought that it would be great to write a book

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about all the shit that goes on behind the scenes

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in radio. And I thought, but who's going on to

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you know what I mean? You need like a personality.

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You need to have people that everybody knows, right. I

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mean I was Western New York and a little bit

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around the country, but more playing classic rock music, no

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big deal. So it's not as though you got more

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Zzy Top you know what I'm saying, Like you're just anybody.

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You're just anybody they plug in.

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Speaker 4: So so i's what they're doing now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, no, I understand that. But that's what I'm

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gonna lose this right, I have said I was part

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of the problem I think that radio. But anyway, so

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I always thought it would be funny because there were

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all these crazy, wild stories between management and things that

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did not no matter how authentic a show was, there

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were things that were.

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Speaker 2: Not discussed, and I go, so that would be great.

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Speaker 1: And then it grew into could we do it as

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a podcast where we just interview the person and just

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share stories, And then my fear with it was would

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have become a bit session about radio and I'm like,

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I don't want Yeah, I don't want that. I don't

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want that. I want the stories that are relatable. So

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somebody we know who works in television, our friend Alex. Yeah,

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Alex has been on me to do radio Days. And

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I bought a camera and I bought the lights that

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we use in the studio now, all really to go

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shoot radio days. And guess what I didn't do. I

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didn't shoot Radio Days because I again couldn't conceptualize exactly

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what this was going to be. And then she said

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to me we should start writing a screenplay, because I

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said the book that I was thinking of could then

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be turned into a modern da WKRP in Cincinnati. Okay,

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but again the sitcoms, I don't know how they're I

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mean they're okay. Look, the Midwest loves loves the sitcom

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they do, but you got to have somebody that they

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think is funny.

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Speaker 6: Like How I Met Your Mother is all and what's

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another sitcom that like? They made a ton of money

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with the nerds and my wife watches the Big Bank.

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Speaker 1: Big Bang Theory.

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Speaker 5: The Midwest has kept those shows, but.

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Speaker 1: Those were really those were well written. I think Abbott

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Elementary is very funny.

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Speaker 2: I think you're white.

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Speaker 5: It's it's really the office in the school setting, right.

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Speaker 2: In a school setting.

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Speaker 1: So I had so. Alex has since started a production

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company of her own, Oh Wow, with another guy who

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has stuff, and she's got projects in the pipeline, and

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she wanted me to pitch Radio Days, Oh Wow to

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the guy d A Z. Yeah, that's how I always

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called it Radio Days. That was my title for it.

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Speaker 2: That's been the final for it.

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Speaker 1: So I go, okay, So it's on my account under

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it's three thirty and I have stuff going on today

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that I had other things. And then I'm running because

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your life. Jameson's got a game. And then James's like, hey, Dad,

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can you get Travis and me snacks, and I'm like, yeah,

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what do you want? Bananas and apples? Come on, dad,

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you know what I want. So I'm running here. I'm

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running there, and I had some other thing I.

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Speaker 2: Needed to be home for.

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Speaker 1: I just just busy stuff, like everybody busy stuff. So

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I end up texting her. I go, hey, listen, and

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one thing was a schedule change on the time. I said,

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I got it. I'm going to be like maybe ten

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minutes late to this, And sure enough I come flying

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in here at three forty. Now, I've never formally pitched anything.

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like a TV show. I have never pitched a TV show.

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the guy goes, well, that's a lot of information. Because

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I'm thinking in my head as I'm driving, I go,

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what the fuck am I going to say about this? Like?

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What am I going to say? So I throw out

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two stories, one about me and radio and an incident

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that happened, and one about somebody who was had a

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nationally syndicated show who I know and what happened? And

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nobody knows these stories outside of the people who were

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involved in them. They don't never got out. These stories

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never got out, and I know that, so I go,

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that's kind of it. The guys like, I like it,

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and uh, he goes, but you know this that sort

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you know, you could have a scripted in the nonscripted version,

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and he said, and I love this. What if you

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did a hybrid scripted unscripted in other words, much like

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Speaker 5: Curb your enthusiasms, trying of like that, what'sn't it?

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Speaker 1: This would be different though that, you know, not like

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that drunk history.

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really well known radio personalities and TV personalities and some

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not so much, and I want to talk to them

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about the crap and radio and then what we get

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the story going, Then we go to scripted, so it's

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acted out by actors or it's animated, okay, and then

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we so you have kind of me walking in to

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interview this person, kind of setting up what I'm looking for,

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sitting down with the person interviewing the person getting to

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this one story and boom and out of each person,

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you could probably get three or four episodes and then

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we're going.

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Speaker 2: To try to sell that.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: So that's what came out of that meeting today. But

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that meeting ran, I think we're supposed to be done

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by for you came in at four twenty.

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Speaker 2: We were over an hour talking about that.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, we'll see, we'll.

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Speaker 2: See what happens.

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Speaker 6: A good sign when the meetings go over, when when

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it's when it's your pitching something.

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Speaker 5: It's not a good sign when.

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Speaker 6: You're when you have a meeting that goes over and

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you're talking about stuff that we handled in an email.

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Speaker 1: Having been on both, I don't like. I have always

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bitched that I didn't like. I don't like meetings and

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blah blah blah. I always thought there were too many

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meetings and things and it's a waste of people's time.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm doing a one eighty in my entire life.

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I said the same thing about talk therapy keeps you

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stuck here going tonight? Yeah, but I go I go.

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Speaker 2: Hard at these things, you know, and then I look

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like an idiot.

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Speaker 5: But that's pretty cool though, I could see the scenarios unfolded.

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the name, right, and then from there we could work

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Speaker 2: But I think there would be some really great stories.

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not interview them separately, have their versions of each It

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could be a really fun, nostalgic, behind the scenes, you know, funny,

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funny way of doing it, and just a more creative way,

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then you got to figure out like, well, how long

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Speaker 2: But that's that's the idea.

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soone good.

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would never be the same somebody could, you know? I

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love where people go, oh they stole my idea? Well

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did they?

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Speaker 2: Or is it?

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Speaker 1: People can come up with it.

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Speaker 5: You have the most refined version of it.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the way I'm hoping.

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Speaker 6: I had an idea for a show once and I

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was hoping to pitch it to one of your friends

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of friends. The idea would be, it's a late night

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talk show, right, like let's say Guy Lake, like whose

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name is Fimmy Jallen? Right, Fimmy Jallen is doing like

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you know this show like the Shanitoe and.

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Walks the guy from The Deer Hunter. He interviews him

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playing a young Vito Corleoni. And then the last guy

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is me is Meet the Fockers. So you're interviewing the character, Yeah, hey,

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we want to thank You're interviewed them as if they're

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real people, right, and you put it on Netflix, you

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do thirteen episodes, you get thirteen actors, or you just

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get like three actors one night, like Tim Allen playing

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you know who.

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Speaker 1: Ever, and like or Santa Claus.

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Speaker 5: But they're playing like the Yeah right, they're playing like

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these characters.

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Speaker 1: It's not them, no, you know, I think that might

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be cute and funny. It could be.

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Speaker 2: It could be very funny.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you'd have to like find the budget to

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do it, because these guys are like, you know, well

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right now I'm working on a project in Hollywood with

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Speaker 1: Right, but it could be a great way for them

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to write.

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Speaker 6: Like can you imagine Jim Carrey, like you know, going

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to be Avantura and then he's going to be the

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cable guy and then he plays the Riddler or whom

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all the I mean, like it's like we want to

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thank the Riddler, and I would need writers to give

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you up an arison day look at this like a

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I think that TV is I've

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called it for a long time now the new Golden.

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Speaker 5: Age, and because because well now they have to fill all.

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Speaker 1: The stuff, you know, and so the platforms you've got

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Disney you've got Netflix, Hulu Prime, Uh, they've got to

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BT that's looking for stuff, the Weed Channel, which I've

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dropped the ball a little bit there, but we'll have

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the podcast up there eventually. And there's all kinds of

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stuff that is out and available. So yeah, you know,

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if you have an idea. But the thing is, I

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think when you're doing a formal pitch to a network.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be slick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have you have to have what they

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call a really good looking deck so people can go

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through they get the show, but it's it's it's polished,

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it is high level pledge.

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Speaker 6: Well you got to remember, like Jerry Seinfeld and Larry

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David the first time they pitched Seinfeld it didn't go well,

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you know, but they they eventually came back to the

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idea like years later, and we know we have now.

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But I mean, yeah, you can be you gotta be sharp.

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Speaker 1: Ye every well butt just it is. And I think

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it was like it was something my father used to say.

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Speaker 2: To me all the time.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember in fourth grade we had to make

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our own almanac, like like Benjamin Franklin, and so my

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father's like all right, and he got me like a

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felt cover. We put in glitter almanac, you know, with

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glue and glitter, and then a ribbon that tied it

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because that's what they use. And he got some kind

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of special paper and the type set was different.

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Speaker 2: I think it was all in script or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this all came about, because I

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think I lost interest halfway through. But he would say

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to me, if you can't dazzle them with your brains,

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you'll blind them with your bullshit. And I go, yeah,

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slickness matters, right. If somebody comes in sloppy, I'm not

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as intrigued as somebody who comes in has their shit

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together when they're talking to you and pitching it. If

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I'm going to invest my money in something, I want

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somebody who's going to be a little.

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Speaker 6: More know your audience, like David Chase the Sopranos, Right.

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He pitched it to all the major networks like no, yeah,

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So then he goes to HBO, and nobody wants at

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that point HBO, like you won't want.

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Speaker 5: To put a television show on HBO.

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Speaker 6: All HBO had at that point was Larry Sanders in Odds,

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which ended up become one of the greatest shows ever,

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but like years later it got the acclaim that it deserved,

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but like it.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't no television.

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Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden, the Sopranos comes out at

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nine o'clock, and all of a sudden, that's the place

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you want to be in television, right, not the network.

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Speaker 5: All the game's moved over here. Yeah you know, I mean,

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but yeah, it's it's it's not easy.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I will apologize on the podcast. I'm

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hoping he'll hear it. At some point. Kevin has an idea,

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a really good idea for a show that he has

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already talked to Alex about and asked me to bring

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it up again, and there was no time. We just

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got so on angles of how to do this that,

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and the guy you heard him, he goes, I got

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to jump on another meeting of five minutes and blah

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blah blah. And I I over an apology because he

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texts me, he goes, hey, will you bring up my

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idea again?

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Speaker 2: And I said, I sure will, or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't because I suck.

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Speaker 2: There'll be more.

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Speaker 5: It's a good premise.

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Speaker 1: What his Yeah, do you know the one he's is

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the one involves a sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

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a great premise. I think I think it'd be a

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really good premise. He's Kevin has got creative ideas, but

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does think he's he does his stuff, all right, Danny,

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there's a lot of things to get to today. We'll

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take a moment, but I would say there's something in

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the water. When we hear about a teacher and inappropriate behavior,

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I would say there's something in the water. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: How can you go.

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Speaker 1: For all this education, very focused, spent the money to

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get the job, to take the test, to do the things,

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to go through all this to have to sabotaze yourself,

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to sabotage yourself for a penis or a vagina basically, right,

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I mean, that's what we're saying. And by the way,

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attached to a fifteen year old. In most cases that

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we've heard over the years, I'm not saying that that's

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the case here. I don't exactly know, but this is

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one that's a little closer to.

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Speaker 5: Home, okay, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I just have lots of questions about it, lots

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of questions, and I figure if anybody would be willing

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to discuss with him. His name is Den Barrillo because

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Danny has I don't know thoughts?

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Speaker 4: How do you drop it?

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Speaker 1: I almost got you a shirt that says, I.

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Speaker 5: Have to tell thoughts.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's gonna be my I don't even know

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what my thoughts are gonna be.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to you. You'll got me a book about thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Did I did get your book about thoughts? Don't believe

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Speaker 5: Eddie did a nice job with this. He wrote it,

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surprise you with theirs too.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is Eddie, I think solo, is it not?

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Speaker 5: This is Pearl Jam. It is this is Pearl Jam.

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Speaker 2: Is my point?

474
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

475
00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have another hit? That's what I'm saying.

476
00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:00,759
There's there's still more songs there and on the talent,

477
00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:02,119
the creativity, you can tap back.

478
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: Yet the bands come under fire lately because their concert

479
00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:10,640
tickets have now like skyrocket ye. And while they're saying like, oh,

480
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,400
we're gonna we're gonna keep prices down, they really can't

481
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:17,640
and it's not really in their control that that's part

482
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,640
of it. The other they say, well, look we got

483
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,640
to do a tour somehow. In other words, they've lost

484
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,799
the battle with take a Master, even the fan club,

485
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,079
Like they don't come to places like Buffalo, let alone

486
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Rochester anymore. You have to flight of them. So they'll

487
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920
go to Pittsburgh twice, and they'll go to Nashville twice,

488
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,039
and they'll go to San Francisco twice, and you have.

489
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 5: To basically go find the band now, So that's part

490
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:35,839
of it.

491
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 6: The other thing is their last record, which came out

492
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:42,079
in April. Debuted at number one the fun but now

493
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,599
with streaming you could track how many listens. It's getting

494
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:48,920
real tie. In week two it fell out of the

495
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,200
hot one hundred. In other words, America kind of said yeah,

496
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,319
and I thought it was their best record in like

497
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:55,880
thirty years.

498
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that that happens. But you know, even that's

499
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:04,680
stuff streaming, It's hard to tell. Art is a subjective thing.

500
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,000
The really things taking on the life of their own

501
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:10,079
later on too, who knows. I just thought that song

502
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,200
if you listen to the words and everything is just

503
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,759
so uh tapped into life. Yeah, I think more just relax, Yeah,

504
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,680
just breathe with me and breathe. Every life must end,

505
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:23,319
you know, everyone must go.

506
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: But that think.

507
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 5: About all the people.

508
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 6: You could think about all the people, Like if you

509
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960
could count on both hands the ones you love, Yeah,

510
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,400
I could go beyond both hands.

511
00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:33,519
Speaker 5: I'm pretty lucky.

512
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I know What'll pardon me while I take

513
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,440
over a shoe and count some more lovers, not lovers,

514
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:40,759
loved ones ones.

515
00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

516
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 5: And by the way, I think they love me too.

517
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,839
I think, yes, I don't know, I could be wrong.

518
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: I believe that, I absolutely believe that you ever.

519
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 6: Go to people's funerals and go, Holy count man, I

520
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,400
thought this guy or this woman deserved better. Ah, like

521
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:01,920
more of a response, because I've had that feeling now

522
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,240
with several people in my life.

523
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: The fuck no, I hope I fucking live so long

524
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,160
that no one's left. That's one thing. But the other is,

525
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:17,079
I know what you're saying. But a lot of times, yeah,

526
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:25,559
I guess, how do I say this? I gotta I

527
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:28,200
need this. I can to formulate exactly how to say it,

528
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,000
because I have found over the years that when I

529
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:35,640
speak really off the cuff, it comes out worse than

530
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,160
I wanted to.

531
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,839
Speaker 5: Maybe get that, but that's me, that's my whole life.

532
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, me too. But the I would say, yes,

533
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,440
I know what you're saying. When someone dies and there's

534
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,880
a huge like line at the funeral home to pay

535
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,240
their respect for people to pay their respects, it gives

536
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,000
you a sign, right that people. But I would say, like,

537
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,240
we had a prominent person in where we live pass

538
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:06,079
away recently.

539
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,519
Speaker 5: Yes, right, you know a couple of them.

540
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,759
Speaker 1: Well, I'm thinking of one in particular, Yes, one in

541
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,200
particular that you and.

542
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,839
Speaker 5: I both know.

543
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, I knew him. You knew him.

544
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,319
I did not, But I had a rant about that

545
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:21,640
person one time. Okay, yes, all right, now I would

546
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,240
say that I'm sure there are people that probably didn't

547
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,799
have great feelings about that person but showed up out

548
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,720
of respect because it's the right thing to do. Or

549
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,079
they were always sort of kissing that ass, so let's

550
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,640
kiss it goodbye. You know what I'm saying. And I go,

551
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:40,119
how authentic is that? Now?

552
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:41,519
Speaker 5: I do have to that's a great point.

553
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 6: That's the only thing I actually when you said that,

554
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920
I thought of another person in my life back home

555
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,799
whom I know. People did not like this guy, but

556
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:50,720
he had a huge funeral because he had money.

557
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, see, like everybody came out. I was.

558
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: There were people who loved him. I loved the guy.

559
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,519
Speaker 6: I thought he was great, but there were people he

560
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,759
had enemies, but those enemies still managed to show up.

561
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,759
Speaker 1: Right, I got it. No, No, I mean I know exactly

562
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:05,960
what you're saying. Now. On the other side, I know

563
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,559
somebody who had lost a parent. I went to pay

564
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,559
my respects and I had to wait an hour in line.

565
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,680
An hour I was wrapped out and around the door.

566
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,039
And this was strictly because this wasn't a guy with

567
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,319
great power or influence or anything. This was just a

568
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,440
great fucking human being. Well I didn't really know, all right,

569
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:35,279
and I'm like, wow, so that's what I think you're saying.

570
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,839
And on the other side, my aunt Irene died great

571
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:39,400
an Irene.

572
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: She was ninety. She was I was in a home.

573
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,279
Speaker 1: It was me, my kids, my wife at the time,

574
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:50,200
my mom, and my dad, my aunt, my uncle.

575
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,039
Speaker 2: That was it.

576
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: Oh wow. She outlived all her friends that.

577
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: She was ninety.

578
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, she outlived her two sisters. She was the

579
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:07,119
youngest she had outlived them. And uh, her name was Irene.

580
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,039
And it weirded me out because she loved Rod Stewart.

581
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,599
And I think Rod Stewart has a song good Night Irene,

582
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,759
and we all sang it. That's the leg closed.

583
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:21,319
Speaker 2: Oh fuck enough.

584
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, there weren't I think some friends and other

585
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,279
family came, but there was like nobody there. There wasn't

586
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:32,319
a line nor you could walk in and like, you know,

587
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,920
you know what I'm saying. So I did she deserve more? Probably,

588
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,119
I guess, but she wasn't. She didn't have kids of

589
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,960
her own, and she didn't have you know that other soul,

590
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,519
I all that plays into it, and then the other is,

591
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,920
you know, kept to herself kind of.

592
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: I don't know that can happen too, Yeah.

593
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,119
Speaker 1: But I it is. Do you feel bad when someone dies?

594
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,960
And that's the case. I don't know, I think when

595
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,119
someone dies. I saw something online, some stupid meme or whatever,

596
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,279
but it grabbed my eye or real and I think

597
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:11,960
it was Sylvester Sloan, but it had captions and I

598
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,880
was in a place that I wasn't turning on the volume,

599
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920
so I read the captions and he goes, when you die,

600
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,039
you know, everybody's sad for an hour or so, and

601
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,559
then they go and you know, they gather after the

602
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,680
funeral for something, and they're thinking about where they need

603
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
to go next and what happens and this and that,

604
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,960
and you are forgotten. So why do you care what

605
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,599
other people really think? Was kind of the message there,

606
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,359
But I was thinking, yeah, because life goes on, because

607
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,079
life is for the living. Yes, life is for the living.

608
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,400
And as stupid, as clear as dumb as that may sound,

609
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920
sometimes we don't think that way, right. We hold on

610
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
to something so hard, and you hold yourself back from living,

611
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,960
you can you can be dead while you're alive if

612
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,319
in certain ways you really can. And we got off

613
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,680
on this tangent, but that's that's right. I just caught

614
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,480
a glimpse of myself on the camera. And I've been

615
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,480
open about substitute teaching. And today these girls in front

616
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,599
row of tenth grade class, all of a sudden they

617
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:11,279
start giggling.

618
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: So I look over and they're.

619
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,039
Speaker 1: Kind of laughing or whatever, and one of them goes

620
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,920
looks at me and goes, what And I said to her,

621
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,839
I go, let me just tell you something right now,

622
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,279
if you do that to a parent or a teacher

623
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:31,200
and they know that you're guilty of something, because you

624
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,279
don't just blurt out what unless you're doing something you

625
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,359
don't want me to know about. And then they started

626
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:40,920
giggling and the other girl goes, yeah, that's pretty true.

627
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,000
And then it turned out that they were comparing me

628
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,240
to somebody. They were looking up pictures of Alec Baldwin

629
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:53,119
in Cat and the Hat. They said that I looked

630
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000
like Alec Baldwin, and I went, yeah, cause I got

631
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,319
fucking fat in the face and I got to lose weight,

632
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,279
and thank God for your TV twelve that I have

633
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,559
been looking at I wait to do the recipes and things.

634
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,480
I'm not kidding, and I was like, I got I

635
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,759
got to drop some weight. And they weren't being mean.

636
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,279
They're like in a good way, in a good way,

637
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:13,680
you look like this is what you look like. Yeah,

638
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,720
and then these kids now imagine me as your substitute teacher,

639
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:21,160
just as you know, you know what I'm saying. I

640
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,559
never thought this would be something I did and really enjoy,

641
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:29,920
Like I like kind of interacting with the kids, and

642
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,720
I like when I could actually teach something like I go, boy,

643
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,319
I kind of dig this. I don't know where I'll

644
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:40,519
go with it, and maybe nowhere, but I've enjoyed it.

645
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,839
So today though, I was covering Spanish class, not a

646
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:48,039
whole lot of teaching for me there, but the teacher

647
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,359
leaves these strict instructions and she says, like, for example,

648
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,440
Dan Burrillo can help you with attendance, and he will

649
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,039
make sure that everybody's phone is in the phone hotel. Okay,

650
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:07,079
So how do you think I present that to the class?

651
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,000
How do you think that Bill Moran walks in and says,

652
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,480
Danny here, and Danny goes, yeah, I go Danny apparently

653
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,000
you are the.

654
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: Police officer for the the snitchka the snitch.

655
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:23,079
Speaker 1: I go, Danny's the snitch, guys.

656
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the one.

657
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,839
Speaker 1: You're the informant that's gonna tell everybody that their phones

658
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,039
are not in the phone hotel, so you better check

659
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:29,359
them in.

660
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,119
Speaker 5: This poor guy. Oh yeah.

661
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 6: It's like I was a terrible baseball player. I was

662
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,599
a terrible athlete. So but I knew the game really well.

663
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Like I even begged the JV coach he can I

664
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,960
give signs to sending no and but they go. So

665
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,000
when we had a substitute coach because our one coach

666
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,319
was he was out for a game. The substitute coach

667
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920
comes in, who had already coached before. He goes Dan, mister,

668
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:56,960
mister so and so says that you're the first base coach.

669
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,640
You know the signs, so I expect you to be like,

670
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,160
oh he told you, Yeah, okay, sure, I'll go do it.

671
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400
I hated coaching first base. It was basically looked like, well,

672
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160
you're smart. It's like being a team manager. Yeah yeah,

673
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,440
so you know the signs, but if if the idiot

674
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,880
at first base doesn't get the sign, it's your job.

675
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, and these guys didn't want to listen to me.

676
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:18,119
Speaker 6: I can't just say, hey, he wants you to steal

677
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,799
second base, bro, give him a nod.

678
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,839
Speaker 1: You know, well, it's an a position for you to

679
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,359
be in because you're a peer. Yes, And I'll say

680
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,640
it this way, and I think you will agree. But

681
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000
it's not a nice way to say. They look down

682
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920
on you, yes, because you're not. You didn't have the

683
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,839
ability to make the team.

684
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: So what well I.

685
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,039
Speaker 5: Made the team. I was just like the nineteenth guy

686
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:42,000
in the Rochester.

687
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 6: All right, so you're way down on the team. Yeah,

688
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240
and while I got to play non league games.

689
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: And what and what makes you think that you get

690
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,119
to tell men what to do. I know this game

691
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,119
better than you. Yes, yeah, I get it. I know

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,039
that I'm seeing that.

693
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,759
Speaker 6: I get I get all the crap when they didn't

694
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:59,000
steal second base. Yeah you know it sucked. Yes, it

695
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,200
was awful, So I know it. Like to be the snitch.

696
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I called these one kid and so this

697
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,240
one kid who's like, you know, five aps and something else,

698
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:10,000
and he's like yeah, he like totally rolls with it.

699
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,000
Other class I say it, and the kids like comes

700
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,639
up to me later on and goes. I mean, I

701
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,760
don't like to think of myself as a snitch. But

702
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:22,280
whoever has number twelve in the phone hotel, they did

703
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,199
not put their phone in there.

704
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: So I get up and go.

705
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 1: Everybody's just go get your phones, which is the worst, right.

706
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 6: I know a guy who's a teacher, I go, can you,

707
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,960
I go? How about you take attendance with their phones

708
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,599
if their phones are on?

709
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,119
Speaker 5: He goes.

710
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,199
Speaker 6: Then what happens is if the phone gets damaged or

711
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,880
something or gets stolen, you are, as a teacher now

712
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,119
responsible for the phone getting damaged or stolen.

713
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: These kids are well, yeah, these are well behaved kids.

714
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,159
Yeah this is in grease. Yeah, all bets are off

715
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,519
in Greece speaking of teachers and things. Though, I don't

716
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:58,760
know if you saw this, but a rush Henrietta teacher

717
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,679
named Scott Stradley. He's fifty two years old. He lives

718
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:06,079
in Pittsford. He got arrested on Friday and charged with

719
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,800
predatory sexual assault against the child, a class A felony.

720
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,280
Now we have we live in a world where it

721
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,079
is supposed to be proven guilt, thank you.

722
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 4: However, I hope he didn't do it. When these things happen.

723
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,599
Speaker 1: We I think, I think the stink is on you,

724
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,360
and I don't know that I can ever come off.

725
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:34,000
There was the guy in Webster basketball coach forgetting his name, and.

726
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: That's a good thing.

727
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: He fought. He got accused of that. I think he

728
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,840
was a girls basketball coach. He got accused of inappropriate

729
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:47,760
behavior and fought and sued and won. They went to trial.

730
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,920
It went to trial. And I know people who were, like,

731
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:57,519
you know, married to the guy and one person he

732
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,960
had been married before. No, no, no, no, this is low

733
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:04,119
And I knew the guy, uh somewhat And the.

734
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,559
Speaker 5: Way he said, I know people who were married.

735
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: He married a friend of mine's sister, sister in law.

736
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,239
But I've got a whole crew.

737
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 4: But I go so and that guy fought, but I go,

738
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,000
I thought, the stink.

739
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,639
Speaker 1: Is on you.

740
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 6: Like your name is always gonna have to leave the area,

741
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,280
because when like people google your name for whatever reason,

742
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,320
that's gonna that's the first thing that's gonna come up.

743
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Mm. And this one was an arrest, a charge, a

744
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,440
criminal trial, whole thing, you know, accusations or accusations. I

745
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,519
wouldn't believe anything unless there's something hard and fast of

746
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,920
a legal document. Otherwise it's fucking hot air and bullshit

747
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,360
and somebody who's got an extra grind is my way

748
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,760
of looking at it. But that one was real. I

749
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,599
don't know, this guy got arrested. They don't usually rescue

750
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:05,920
without some sort of evidence. Okay, so the victim was

751
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,159
a child he knew personally, not a student. So if

752
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:14,639
you're in the Rush Henrietta district, you just go not right, So,

753
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,800
I don't know. Here's the letter they put out from

754
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,039
Rush Henrietta. We are at we are at liberty to

755
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,199
share the following. A faculty member who works at this

756
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,440
high school, junior high school, was arrested off campus on

757
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:31,039
Friday the thirteenth. Man that motherfucker hates that day. Now

758
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,000
from this day far, Friday thirteenth, it's one of those

759
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:40,119
ones you go. The Monroe County Sheriff's Office and the

760
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,239
school district have no evidence at this time to suggest

761
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,440
that are any allegations involving Rush Henrietta students. The employee

762
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,039
has been placed on administrative leave. The district will continue

763
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,639
to cooperate. Blah blah blah. Now, this is what I

764
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,760
was really really impressed with that the school district did

765
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,719
in their letter to parents. Please keep in mind that

766
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,400
news and rumors, especially in the hands and on the

767
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:13,760
devices of our teenagers, spreads rapidly, not accurately rapidly.

768
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,079
Speaker 2: Right, So, as.

769
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: Best we can, we will continue to work as a

770
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,000
school in a district to address comments, questions, or concerns

771
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,400
from students by attending to their social emotional needs. Without

772
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,320
discussing any of the specifics of this ongoing investigation, please

773
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,400
take time to explore the following resources to help you

774
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,920
your students. Blah blah blah blah blah. Wouldn't you love

775
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,159
to know what the kids are saying? Oh? Yeah, I

776
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,639
would love to know, because how many times I remember

777
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:45,039
a teacher that big, bushy beer somewhat effeminine, always stood

778
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,760
with his wrist like this and had an earring in

779
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,840
the opposite ear or whatever, and I think everybody decided

780
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,559
that guy was gay, and the rumors just flew. Yeah. Man,

781
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,880
so I'm looking at your butt when you left the room,

782
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,559
like all these awful things that probably weren't true at all. Right,

783
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,360
that's that's I go. I would love to know what

784
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,159
the kids are saying, because you know, we don't even

785
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:13,360
know if this is really true.

786
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, when I was in school, there were a

787
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,679
couple of teachers whom I don't want to like, you know,

788
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,039
say specifics, but the people questioned their their sexual preference

789
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,159
at the time, and we would come back and we

790
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,760
would say it in front of my mother, and she goes, oh, yeah,

791
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,760
there have been rumors about.

792
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:31,599
Speaker 5: Those two fuck years.

793
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,559
Speaker 6: So my mother, my mother had graduated like thirty years

794
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:37,960
before I diet or something like that.

795
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:39,679
Speaker 5: So I'm like, holy cow.

796
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 6: So this is like a generational thing, you know, like

797
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,360
these rumors have gone off for it's gotta be true.

798
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: She goes, No, that's not, that's not the point.

799
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,159
Speaker 6: The point is is that people perpetuating rumors about these

800
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:51,400
people for years.

801
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: You can't necessarily blame that.

802
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: And how long what's the statue of limitation from one

803
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,920
a rumor becomes what we believe? You know what I'm saying,

804
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:03,960
Like all of a sudden win from a rumor, it's

805
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,239
to a hard and fast like fuck man, you know

806
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,639
that guy, you know they're Oh, they go in the

807
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,840
faculty room, they make sure nobody's in there, and there's

808
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,039
sixty nine and on the table.

809
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always something.

810
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,599
Speaker 1: Or something terrible.

811
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, my brother told me. My brother told

812
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,199
me that he was a story about like and then

813
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,440
all of a sudden, well, your brother's on the football

814
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,320
team and he's really cool.

815
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 6: It's gotta be true, right, So everyone wants to kiss

816
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,239
this guy's you know what because his brother's on the

817
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,920
football team.

818
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 5: So of course we're going to enhance the story. Hey,

819
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,000
do you hear what Jerry said?

820
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Right?

821
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

822
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: But and you always when something came out about a

823
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,000
teacher like something like this, always, I always knew there

824
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:42,519
was something.

825
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: Creepy about that guy.

826
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you he was looking at your ass

827
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,920
when you want that. Yeah, you know that sort of thing.

828
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:54,199
But I don't know. You still have to know what

829
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,639
is and what isn't. Like I'm sure this guy was

830
00:40:56,639 --> 00:41:00,239
probably a great teacher late in his career, right fifty

831
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,960
two years old, later in his career, or maybe maybe

832
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,800
second career, who knows. Uh, here's my thing. Are you

833
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,880
able to keep anything private anymore?

834
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,639
Speaker 5: I don't know, And it's scary because anyone finds out.

835
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:18,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yes, and I think that I mean,

836
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,639
I think there's certain things that you that need to

837
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,239
be exposed if you're doing something wrong.

838
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,679
Speaker 5: Obviously, here's the problem though, here's the slippery slope with that.

839
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,159
Speaker 6: Okay, it's America and nobody should like that's like allowing

840
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,079
a police officer to just go into your house and

841
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:33,960
just check your house for random searches of anything possibly illegal.

842
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,159
You know, this is still America. Like Bill Martin a

843
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,039
whole thing about it. In New Rules about a year

844
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,199
or so ago, the iPhone Apple was going to detect

845
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,679
child pornography on your phone. If you had an iPhone

846
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:48,840
and you had child pornography, they're going to ratch you out,

847
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,599
And which sounds like a great idea. It is, except

848
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,360
for one thing.

849
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Is how to naked picture of your baby in the bathtub?

850
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:56,079
Speaker 5: Right, which is.

851
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Not uncommon rights to Grandma.

852
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the AI says, according to the algorithm, you've.

853
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 6: Got child pornography. Or let's it's America. Even though that

854
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,079
is awful. At the end of the day, there are

855
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,039
procedures to uncover stuff like that, right, you know what

856
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,239
I'm saying, Like, you can't just go because then if

857
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,159
you allow that, guess what, You're gonna allow everything and before.

858
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,599
Speaker 4: You're not, you're gonna have it.

859
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,199
Speaker 5: You're not gonna have any privacy.

860
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: What if I like sent you a text about Kevin

861
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,320
right that was really dirty or okay, and then all

862
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
of a sudden it comes out that because of like

863
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,199
some search that oh yeah you said this is that true?

864
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,039
Speaker 5: Yeah we were joking. Well, it didn't look like you

865
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:36,480
were joking in this text message.

866
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

867
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: It was just a mere joke.

868
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: The point is is that, like we we should be

869
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,840
able to protect our privacy.

870
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,519
Speaker 1: Well, I bring this up because we don't know what

871
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,960
happened in this case. It's upsetting to think that you

872
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239
were sending your kids to somewhere where they would be

873
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,400
danger by those that are there to protect them.

874
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,679
Speaker 2: Right.

875
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: The worst thing you're hoping is an elbow in the

876
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,960
ribs from a classmate maybe, uh not something where somebody's

877
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,039
grooming them or doing whatever. Right, But Kelli Watkins, what's

878
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:09,039
the guy couldn't remember the name? The coach in Webster, Okay,

879
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:12,480
And he was accused of some stuff with an underage

880
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:13,519
girl or whatever.

881
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: It was followed through.

882
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: He was arrested, the whole thing, and he man, he

883
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,760
went to the mat and he was found to be

884
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,920
not guilty. Good for him, not guilty, right, And that's

885
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,480
why I'm saying even with this story, we don't look at.

886
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,119
Speaker 6: The Duke la cross case. It just came out that

887
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,599
the accuser. Yeah, it made the whole thing up.

888
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: I always do wonder though, when you do find the

889
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,280
stories about they did right, made the whole thing up. Yes,

890
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,360
I'm sorry to cut that off, that is a very

891
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,719
important fact. But I because you were taking what people

892
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,840
thought were rich spoiled white guy.

893
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,079
Speaker 5: And the DA got involved.

894
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna use this as a way to celebate my

895
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,480
own political career.

896
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 5: What happened. I think, yeah, he had up paying dearly.

897
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,599
Speaker 1: But it sure because you think that it makes sense.

898
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, on the option of it. It makes sense,

899
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:01,719
all right.

900
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,639
Speaker 1: If I tell you a fifty two year old guys

901
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:08,639
accused of sixteen year old girl who could be well

902
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,719
developed and look like a woman, and put makeup on

903
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,400
her and send her into a club, and I bet

904
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,760
she doesn't get carded. She looks twenty four to twenty five.

905
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,519
It happens, you know, But he shouldn't be doing this

906
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,760
and he knows better, right, and he's been educated if

907
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,559
that's the case, But we don't know. Kelly Watkins turned

908
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,039
out not to be And do you know how hard

909
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:29,840
it is to fight something like that, how expensive it is,

910
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:33,280
how emotionally draining on your family this guy maybe I

911
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,559
don't know anything about how long it takes, but I

912
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:37,679
don't know if this guy's married or not. You're the

913
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,760
spouse of this person. You're trying to support them, You

914
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,320
love them, no matter what right you want to see.

915
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,719
But God, the stuff is horrible. What's the rumor mill saying?

916
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,119
What are people saying behind your back? What are your

917
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,159
girlfriends saying that?

918
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: Or not?

919
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: If it's the wife, it's like, holy shit, man that

920
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,679
it's a horrible accusation. And I go, you almost I

921
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,840
would say, I it's right for the sake of all involved.

922
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,360
I guess I don't know one for somebody to be believed.

923
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:11,199
Then how about the person the victim right right, who

924
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:13,639
feels it's like something was done to them? The whole

925
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,400
fucking thing is wild. But I always think with teachers,

926
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,599
I go, you went through all that education, got a

927
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:23,039
master's degree, narrowed in on exactly what you wanted to

928
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:27,039
do for the purpose of raising young people up, helping

929
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,000
them fill their minds and rich their lives, give them

930
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,039
better perspective on stuff. And then a fourteen or fifteen

931
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,239
year old Peenis or Vagina comes by and you're throwing

932
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,840
it all away.

933
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: Makes no sense.

934
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 6: I don't get it either. Remember like Mary A Kaila Turner,

935
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,880
she's since passed away. But that was like the first

936
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,960
major case in America where you had a female.

937
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:48,199
Speaker 5: Teacher, yeah, you know, and a sixth grade student.

938
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 6: Well that we knew of that, we knew of it, right,

939
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,760
And all of a sudden, then it started they all

940
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,360
started coming out. It was like it was like it

941
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,639
was like a monthly thing. Even Jim Rome made a

942
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,440
joke about it on.

943
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,079
Speaker 5: The show Where were these teachers when I was in

944
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high school?

945
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,159
Speaker 6: And it's like, but and that showed the double standard

946
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:08,000
of it because like guys could joke about that stuff, Oh.

947
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,599
Speaker 5: That's so cool, But if it's a girl, that's awful.

948
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719
You know, it's really awful for both. Right, So there's

949
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,360
even a double standard about how we as people look

950
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,519
at you know.

951
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

952
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,199
Speaker 6: Then there's the flip side where remember the mea hold,

953
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,119
the whole me too movement, It got carried away to

954
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,039
a point where all of a sudden, like even like

955
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,000
light accusations.

956
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,639
Speaker 5: Became like oh me too.

957
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And like it was like, okay, now we're

958
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,039
now you're discrediting real victims here by making.

959
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: Everybody a victim. Yes, you weren't a victim.

960
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: We can we could also say this. There was behaviors

961
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,519
and things that were be said in the.

962
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,639
Speaker 5: Office, right, like flirting back and forth.

963
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,119
Speaker 1: We had a couple of former radio people who now

964
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,440
run a big agency in town, stopped in one night.

965
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480
I don't think you were here there, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

966
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,119
do you remember what she said?

967
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: What did she say?

968
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: Julie said that like told us to put on our

969
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,639
closing skirt.

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00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: That's right clothing.

971
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: It went on our closing skirt. Imagine that being fucking

972
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,360
said today And there was no malice really behind it,

973
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,119
but you would be brought up with that kind of

974
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:15,599
a charge.

975
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 5: That's what I was told.

976
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,079
Speaker 6: Like when I first got into radio, I was told

977
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:20,880
by a couple of like broadcasts, they go, I go, yeah,

978
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,880
there's a lot of good looking saleswomen here, and they

979
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,760
go yeah, there's a reason for that.

980
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could.

981
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 5: Show a little leg they call it.

982
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

983
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: I go oh oh.

984
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 6: But maybe in a naive twenty three year old of like, well,

985
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:34,400
I'm just they're smart business people.

986
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,599
Speaker 1: No, then well, yes, but the point being like, you

987
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,719
wouldn't say that, Yeah, in twenty twenty.

988
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: Four, you don't say that now, you don't even joke

989
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,719
about that.

990
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, sales. But there was never I

991
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,840
don't think there was any There was no malice palace

992
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880
behind it. And I almost wonder, and I don't know

993
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:56,119
anybody will admit to it, but if you were told that,

994
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,119
it meant you were it was sort of a compliment, yes,

995
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:02,360
because they weren't that to Lori Califonso, put on your

996
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,239
closing skirt, put on your closing moo moo. You know

997
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,360
what I mean, like and again mean horrible, but that

998
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,039
we we can't do that today. And I think that

999
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,920
that's the point where people would be canceled, let's say,

1000
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,000
for that right, or lose a job for saying something

1001
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,519
like that making me uncomfortable. That making me uncomfortable, you

1002
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,199
should give the person a chance to not do it again.

1003
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,119
And if we're to evolve in any way and we're

1004
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,760
looking for better, then we have to kind of give

1005
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,199
people a little bit of breathing room to prove that

1006
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,440
they've learned and go forward, unless it's something so egregious

1007
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,840
that you would wind up in jail or we absolutely

1008
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,880
can't tolerate this at our company whatever it is, right, absolutely,

1009
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,280
you know, but I think that there's got to be

1010
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,119
a little bit of room with that.

1011
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,079
Speaker 6: Yes, we need room, and we need to take a breath,

1012
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,880
just breathe, just Frank says, and let the circumstances play out.

1013
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, can we because we have to have an

1014
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,800
opinion right now, Billy, right now, damn it.

1015
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:06,039
Speaker 5: Hot take Cot, take Cot take.

1016
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,679
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, the Candace Owans is

1017
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,920
a conservative pundit, right yeah, And she she became a

1018
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,760
conservative when she was involved in a situation where some

1019
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,159
white kids treated her badly because she was black, and

1020
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,880
the whole school and everybody got involved.

1021
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 5: As soon as the case was over.

1022
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 6: Everything vanished. Those kids' lives were ruined. And then she

1023
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,000
went back to just like blending in with the wallpaper.

1024
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,880
And she goes, wait a minute, you're gonna trast these

1025
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,599
kids lives the rest of their lives because something that

1026
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:34,639
happened in high school.

1027
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because you're a victim.

1028
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,159
Speaker 6: She's like, well, yeah, but like I we addressed it,

1029
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:41,360
We talked about it, and she saw the way that

1030
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,320
people used her to further their agenda and trash these

1031
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,239
kids to make an example, and then realized, oh my gosh,

1032
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,599
what was it worth it?

1033
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,679
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't worth it.

1034
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,599
Speaker 1: But you being a man of the Bible. Yes, I

1035
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:59,199
always thought that the story of Saul becoming Paul is

1036
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:05,280
a great examp as evolution, right and speaking and giving

1037
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,320
you a chance to evolve, repent and.

1038
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,519
Speaker 6: Change, and people should be allowed to change. Exactly if

1039
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,159
my father weren't allowed to change, I wouldn't be here.

1040
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 5: That's the power of the Gospel. Some people be like, like, uh, so,

1041
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,639
what's the problem.

1042
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: Why are you here?

1043
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, alright, no, but but yeah, I mean that that's

1044
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,639
you should be allowed to repent and change, and you

1045
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:27,480
have until the final breath to do that.

1046
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,559
Speaker 2: We are gonna take a moment.

1047
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts, I know, on on

1048
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,519
the bills, Lions bills moving forward. There's three games left,

1049
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:40,840
two of them against New England won at home, won away,

1050
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,400
Jets in between there, I believe, right, yes, uh Jets

1051
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Sandwich and uh Cody Bellinger, Yeah, yeah, we'll get to

1052
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,039
uh all that because it's got to be abbreviated.

1053
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:53,039
Speaker 2: I have a heart out tonight.

1054
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Speaker 5: Let's go hard on, a heart out a Spanish accent.

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Speaker 8: Police stop my car, at lease stop my car. They

1095
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:35,519
police made me stop walk straight line and Bloway by

1096
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:43,079
loaning out. Police stop my car at least stop my car.

1097
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:48,039
The police may me sed up straight line and low

1098
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:54,400
by Lord enough, they want to wish me soul Christmas.

1099
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: There you go. Bob Rivers, who is a radio personality,

1100
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,320
spent most of his career out of Seattle, but was

1101
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,039
in Baltimore for a minute or two, Boston, Worcester, and then.

1102
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 5: He's still hanging on.

1103
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I think health wise, he's okay, Okay,

1104
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,000
I know there was cancer. I don't. I don't. I

1105
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:14,039
don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Out of the loop.

1106
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be one for radio.

1107
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 5: He tell you some great story.

1108
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,079
Speaker 2: There was probably some good stories.

1109
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 6: But my favorite Christmas spoof is Grandma got forked over

1110
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,679
by the Grandpa got forked over by the mafia.

1111
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know that.

1112
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard it in years, but that's it's somewhere.

1113
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to find it for tomorrow. Yeah, so, Danny,

1114
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,679
only because I have to abbreviated version of the pod

1115
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,679
tonight with you, and I because I I have the

1116
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:41,039
thing I gotta go to get to. But thoughts on

1117
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:44,599
the Buffalo Bills right now. Josh Allen, I'll ask this question,

1118
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,840
secured the MVP or not.

1119
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: I believe he has. Yes.

1120
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,039
Speaker 6: I think there's a national game bias. And when everybody

1121
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,400
sees how miraculous you are, like last year, Lamar secured

1122
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,840
it on Christmas when he beat the crap out of

1123
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,599
the forty nine ers.

1124
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the guy.

1125
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 6: And I think at the last like twenty years fifty,

1126
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:01,760
the MVPs have gone to the team of the best

1127
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,119
record in the NFL or a number one seed. So

1128
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,760
I mean, yeah, I mean Josh Allen may have secured

1129
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,519
like the greatest player ever.

1130
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: At this point.

1131
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 6: Well there's people, I mean, who's played better than Josh

1132
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:13,159
Allen ever.

1133
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: I just read a breakdown I think it was on

1134
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,360
I follow the silly site called bro Bible. I went

1135
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,239
to bro Bible and I'm looking through the headlines and

1136
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,719
they go the ranking the top ten quarterbacks in the league.

1137
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:30,039
Speaker 2: Currently or whatever, or maybe it was the top.

1138
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:33,159
Speaker 1: Maybe they're all thirty two and Josh Allen was number one,

1139
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:35,119
and they go, who's playing better than Josh Allen in

1140
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,119
the league. He is so fun to watch, buddy.

1141
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah No.

1142
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,519
Speaker 1: And that chess pass he almost wishes that somebody didn't

1143
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:41,559
hold that was.

1144
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 5: That was a player of the Year candidate.

1145
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,119
Speaker 1: Well, these are just things that he's doing that Mahomes

1146
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,480
has done, the behind the back pass, all the improvisational

1147
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,960
stuff that I wonder if you get to a level

1148
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,199
where the game almost slows down for you and you

1149
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,239
see opportunities to just play.

1150
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:03,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's called it. Like Jordan said, being in the zone. Yeah,

1151
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,639
of like the basket to him was like a Hulu hoop.

1152
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1153
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching with my own kid, right basketball,

1154
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:12,039
And one of the things he's saying to me is

1155
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,800
I don't get He goes, I can look at the plays,

1156
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,599
I can understand the plays, but then I get out

1157
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:19,679
on the on the court and he's like, I can't

1158
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,639
sometimes remember where I'm going what I'm doing, And he goes,

1159
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:24,840
it's so frustrating. And I said, this is a higher

1160
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,320
level of Is this a higher level of basketball than

1161
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,880
you were playing in Alabama and he goes yeah, he

1162
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,360
goes absolutely, And I said, okay, I said, it's a

1163
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,639
real team thing. Like there, I said, when you learn

1164
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:40,480
this system, it is the system all the way through.

1165
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,000
You get it. Now, you got it, build on and

1166
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,960
build on it, build on it, and we'll work on

1167
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,400
the other skills in the off season and stuff. But

1168
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,000
so I'm just thinking with the NFL, an NFL playbook

1169
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,039
is like it looks insane.

1170
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:56,119
Speaker 5: I mean we talk about like reading text code.

1171
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,679
Speaker 1: We say things like the you know the dumb jock,

1172
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,440
you're the dumb football player.

1173
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:03,639
Speaker 5: All their brain cells are into the football playbook.

1174
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, it is on our believable. It's hard

1175
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:12,480
first to go to college. Yes, but I think a

1176
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:16,199
quarterback more than anything is the one. You've got to

1177
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:19,239
know everything that's happening on every play. Yep, running back,

1178
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,079
I just got to block. Here's got to find the hole.

1179
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:23,159
Yeah right, Receiver, I gotta run the route. I got

1180
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:24,639
to read the defense a little bit. But the quarterbacks

1181
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:26,599
got to know the protection. He's got to know where

1182
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:28,719
the blitz is coming from. He's got to know he's

1183
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:30,599
shut down. He's got to be on the same page

1184
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:33,440
as receivers. Like sometimes if you see, like like Super

1185
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,480
Bowl thirty, Neil O'donnald throws a famous interception to Larry Brown.

1186
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,599
Larry Brown takes off for a touchdown, game game ends, and.

1187
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, the game's fixed. That was a clear

1188
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,280
he clearly No, the receiver ran the wrong route. Yeah,

1189
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:47,559
they weren't on the same page.

1190
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:50,079
Speaker 1: Well, we saw that early in this season with Josh.

1191
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 5: We saw it with Gave Davis last year.

1192
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:53,719
Speaker 2: Coleman. I think Coleman r.

1193
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 5: Coleman ran the wrong round route.

1194
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: It was pretty obviously. Yeah, that was that.

1195
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the Miami game.

1196
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that, you know, you see that

1197
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:03,599
stuff and normally go where the hell is he thrown to? No,

1198
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:06,639
he's thrown to where he needs to. But it's his

1199
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:09,519
seventh year in the league, Josh. Now we go, Josh

1200
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,840
throwing it where he needs to go back a few

1201
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,280
years ago, Josh is inaccurate. Look at that. The guy

1202
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,320
was on the opposite side of the field the Josh.

1203
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:19,039
Speaker 5: Start first year.

1204
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1205
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: For a couple of years.

1206
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now there's almost like a hang on a second,

1207
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:26,719
this guy has done so much stuff, so when you

1208
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,800
watch the Lions game, was there any I mean, I was,

1209
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,119
We watched it together. I was kind of on the

1210
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:35,559
edge of my seat, very nervous that something would fall apart.

1211
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,519
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

1212
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, because he blew a three touchdown lead almost. I mean,

1213
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,159
you didn't blow the lead, but you, I mean you

1214
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:45,119
gave up like a three touchdown deficite of one.

1215
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1216
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 6: I was pretty relaxed the entire game because I went

1217
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,000
into it thinking they were gonna lose. Everything else was

1218
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,440
a bonus, but like they were like coasting for a while.

1219
00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you said.

1220
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, I thought they're gonna lose.

1221
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1222
00:58:56,639 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 6: The difference between this, you gotta remember in two games, well,

1223
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:01,440
Josh Allen on the offense has put up eighty six

1224
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,960
points or whatever the Bills or eighty eight porard or

1225
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,119
something like that. The Bills defense is given up seventy nine.

1226
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:08,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, right.

1227
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:09,079
Speaker 5: The difference in.

1228
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 6: The Rams game and the difference in the Lions game

1229
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:13,360
was in the Rams game there was a block punt

1230
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,400
return for a touchdown against the Bills. In the Lions game,

1231
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:19,440
the Lions, you know, Saint Brown fumble the football, Bills

1232
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,760
recover end up going and scoring.

1233
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.

1234
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 6: That's that's the difference. So your defense still has to

1235
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,079
show up. And I know there's a lot of people saying, well,

1236
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,400
maybe you know McDermott and Bobby Babitch, the defensive coordinator,

1237
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,480
are holding things back.

1238
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: They think they could beat these guys. I don't think

1239
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,679
you were holding anything back against the Stroit.

1240
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1241
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 6: You're the best team in the NFL. You don't have

1242
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,320
a full They stopped their run games.

1243
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,679
Speaker 1: These are these are we don't even know the names

1244
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:44,920
of the people out there, right, do we right? I

1245
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,679
mean we do, yeah, some of them, I don't know.

1246
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,239
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I mean, Rasul

1247
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Douglas missed, you know, missed the game because and by

1248
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,000
the way he's getting up there, like when corners go,

1249
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:54,800
they go quickly.

1250
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: I mean that defense is still a liability. He's like, well,

1251
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,920
they stopped the run game. Okay, they stopped the run,

1252
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,880
but they still threw for like you know, yeah, for

1253
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,440
the ages.

1254
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,159
Speaker 6: I mean, Detroit still played a heck of a game,

1255
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:05,719
and it was a six point game when it ended.

1256
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,559
Speaker 5: And you could make the argument that if Campbell.

1257
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 6: Doesn't decide to like on side, they kick the ball

1258
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,920
with eleven minutes to go, you may have a different outcome,

1259
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,199
But but you gotta do you love a coach like

1260
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:18,280
that or do you hate it? Gas I do love

1261
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,760
a coach like that. But you gotta be smart. You

1262
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,159
can't be reckless. He's reckless. He was reckless in the

1263
01:00:24,199 --> 01:00:26,880
NFC Championship game last year and it flipped the entire game.

1264
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:29,480
Lions were head to the Super Bowl, and they just said, yeah,

1265
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:30,960
let's go for it when a field goal would have

1266
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,199
put you up like three scores.

1267
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 5: Now, let's not do that. And so again like he

1268
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,840
didn't have to do that.

1269
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,039
Speaker 6: Now, I think the philosophy was, we're not going to

1270
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:42,920
stop the Bills offense, okay, but you still gotta you

1271
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,719
still gotta try eleven minutes to go.

1272
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,719
Speaker 5: Because in the old days, you could just kick an

1273
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,320
on side kick. Nobody would know it's coming.

1274
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,079
Speaker 6: And believe me, Buffalo special teams they would not know

1275
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,119
it's coming. They're not that good, all right, But now

1276
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:55,760
you have to announce it. You have to basically send

1277
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,199
it a grave devitation. We would now like to odd

1278
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,880
sides kick the ball. By the way, the second eyd

1279
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,880
Sight's kicked they almost didn't get it Buffalo. They only

1280
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,039
won by six, and it wasn't like a back and forth.

1281
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:08,480
You know, the Bills had a lead and then they

1282
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:11,239
held on for dear life. I'm not saying I'm unhappy

1283
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,440
about it. I'm very happy.

1284
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: Now you got three games where if you take care

1285
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:15,320
of business one.

1286
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 6: Way or another, you could probably if they're going if

1287
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,519
they're going for the number one seed, they're probably gonna

1288
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:23,199
have to win out if they figure out by the

1289
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:25,199
next by the second game, the Jets game, that they're

1290
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:27,480
only gonna lock up a two seed, you're probably gonna

1291
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,719
be treat the last Patriots game as a bye week. Yeah,

1292
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,679
like Josh is not gonna play, Your stars are not

1293
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:36,239
gonna play. It's gonna be backups and stuff. We're gonna

1294
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,559
get ready for the first game of the playoffs. So

1295
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:40,360
but I mean, the Bills are a good shape. But

1296
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,599
the goals to win the Super Bowl, let's not forget that.

1297
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:46,599
Speaker 1: And the chances on that in your thought, in your opinion.

1298
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:49,119
Speaker 6: I think they're more likely the two seed. But the

1299
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:50,480
thing you gotta remember though, well.

1300
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: The two seed. But I'm saying still an opportunity. Yes,

1301
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,199
super Bowl, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

1302
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,679
Speaker 6: I mean, look, do you realize that if you take

1303
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Josh Shouting off the Buffalo Bills, they may be one

1304
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,920
of the five worst teams in the NFL. Look at

1305
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,000
their coaching, look at their special teams, look at their offense.

1306
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,599
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a quarterback league. You're only as good

1307
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,280
as your quarterback. I don't care who you are.

1308
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 6: But some coaches can overcome that. Like I mean, a

1309
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,519
lot of people are killing Shanahan and San Francisco. Do

1310
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:19,800
you realize he took two Super Bowl two guys in

1311
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:20,400
the Super Bowl.

1312
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:23,559
Speaker 5: One guy's last name was irrelevant, first name mister yeah.

1313
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 6: And the guy before them was a guy named Garoppolo

1314
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,159
who he left San Francisco.

1315
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:28,159
Speaker 4: What has he done since?

1316
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,679
Speaker 5: Nothing? Right, He's a pretty damn good coach. Oh, by

1317
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:33,840
the way, he made Matt Ryan an MVP.

1318
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: There's rumors or talk, I don't know, about him possibly

1319
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,719
being traded Shanahan to the.

1320
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,119
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears compensation. I could see it because they think

1321
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:47,039
he can work with Caleb Williams. I don't know. I

1322
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:49,480
think it's I don't know, we'll see.

1323
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 6: But there's also rumors that last night, Kirk Cousins, I mean,

1324
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:54,079
not last night.

1325
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 5: But the other night he was benched.

1326
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1327
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,559
Speaker 5: And it's gonna be the Michael pennoxara coming up. Okay.

1328
01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:59,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

1329
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,639
Speaker 6: They guaranteed him ninety million more dollars or whatever, and

1330
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,599
so he could go to San Francisco sign because like

1331
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:07,079
Atlanta still got to pay him that money.

1332
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1333
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,039
Speaker 6: Period, that money's already accounted for and it's gonna count

1334
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:10,639
against the Caps.

1335
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:11,519
Speaker 5: So what do they do?

1336
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,119
Speaker 6: He could refuse the trade or he they kindomy can

1337
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:17,480
go to San Francisco or wherever Shanahan goes for the

1338
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:20,440
league minimum and still get his money from Atlanta.

1339
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 5: And those guys work well together. They work well in Washington.

1340
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:27,159
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins, Yeah, Kirk Cousins like Mike Shanahan or Kyle

1341
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:29,159
Shannahan could rebuild quarterbacks.

1342
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,199
Speaker 2: Man, well, I would like you could.

1343
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: Can you imagine what he would do with Josh Allen?

1344
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,239
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

1345
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,960
I just like what's happening. Yes, I'll get the leaver there.

1346
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:42,519
I got to wrap it up in just a second here.

1347
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:46,239
But Cody Bellinger, yes, loved him with the Dodgers now

1348
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:46,679
in New York.

1349
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 5: Yankees now New York Yankee.

1350
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: He went to the Chicago Cubs in between renown directed

1351
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,599
his career. There is something that is being highlighted about

1352
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:57,079
this trade.

1353
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:58,599
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know this.

1354
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,159
Speaker 5: Okay.

1355
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger's wife in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen dated Gian

1356
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:10,960
Carlos Stin. Oh, okay, And so the question is will

1357
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,800
there be awkwardness?

1358
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,079
Speaker 2: Now?

1359
01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger has been married to this woman for a

1360
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,559
couple of years. They have two daughters together. She is

1361
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,960
a former swimsuit model or whatever it is. But I mean,

1362
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:27,079
will it be will there be strained in the locker room?

1363
01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:28,079
It could be funny.

1364
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,159
Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, I don't think so at all.

1365
01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:34,119
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that I don't get sometimes because

1366
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:34,639
I think they I.

1367
01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 6: Think guys like being guys of course, of course about it,

1368
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,920
have some fun break balls about it or not whatever.

1369
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1370
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,719
Speaker 1: But how do you handle the situation like that? You

1371
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,760
got to be secure enough to realize she is with

1372
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,440
you and not him. And there's a reason why probably,

1373
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,559
and I go, But how about the couples that get divorced,

1374
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:00,719
have kids, get divorced, go on to new part and

1375
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,599
then everybody gets together for holidays and they get together

1376
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:03,960
for this.

1377
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,519
Speaker 5: Wasn't that like with Laura's situation?

1378
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Well sort of, but I go, do they But sometimes

1379
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,639
they do that for years, like continue for years even

1380
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,679
after everybody's grown and now new families right there, ghost

1381
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:17,760
kids are grown and have families and they're own and

1382
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,880
the original couples still get together, And I go, is

1383
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,639
that weird? Maybe it's not.

1384
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's weird if you make

1385
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:27,800
it weird.

1386
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

1387
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,639
Speaker 2: What do we say here all the time?

1388
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: There is no meaning unless attack the meaning you give it.

1389
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,239
Speaker 6: That's it, you know, I mean, I mean, so one

1390
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:37,800
time I was at I was at a Christmas party

1391
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,760
at a radio station when we first started working together,

1392
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:42,519
and my then girlfriend at the time, we're going up

1393
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,440
the stairs and this girl that I, you know, had

1394
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,960
a brief relationship with is coming down the stairs and

1395
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,920
my then girlfriend at the times awkward.

1396
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,119
Speaker 1: Huh.

1397
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, only because you said awkward.

1398
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,599
Speaker 1: Oh I think I was behind you. Yeah, I'm like,

1399
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,519
she said it really loud. Yeah, yeah awkward.

1400
01:05:56,719 --> 01:06:00,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's only awkward because you said awkward. I

1401
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:03,079
think we're both adults. We both moved on. I'm with you,

1402
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:04,480
and she's with whoever that dude is.

1403
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:08,239
Speaker 1: We've all seen each other naked, folks, I mean, do

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we have to like?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's only awkward, like when people Sometimes it's

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the people outside that make it awkward, but it's awkward

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to us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw a story that made me laugh kind

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of a little bit here Will Levis. Will Levis's model

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girlfriend that he broke up with, who I think came.

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Speaker 5: With him at the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she got famous at the draft. He fell to

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the second round. She became famous. Attractive girl, pretty, I

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would say to me, just pretty, But okay, she did

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a whole thing. Get ready with me. I'm going to

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my first Titans game this past week. And she goes,

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I've had all this Titans gear in my clauses.

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Speaker 2: Has just been rotting.

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Speaker 1: That's what she said. It's all she was with Will.

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Will gets drafted by the Titans. There, Will has a

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horrible game and gets benched in the third quarter, and

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I go, he not that it was in his head.

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I'm not saying that, But that's the game you want

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to show out, you know what I mean. I mean,

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take it down to our own level, you know, Beer

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Softball League yeah, you're playing your ex wife's a new

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boyfriend or husband's team. You want to show out, even

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with your big old beer belly. You're coming around second,

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you're plowing someone over. You're you want to show off

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here a little bit right, You're hoping the other guy

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flames out. I felt bad for Will.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't even matter in his head, but boy,

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I think headline, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it does a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Young enough, your quarterback, you dropped in the draft. Your

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girl's mocking you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I have all this Titans gear that's

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rotting in this closet.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's because now all these you got to remember

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the call Wag's wives and girlfriends and athletes, they all

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had their own personal brand. Now, I mean Josh Allen's

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ex Brittany, she wants to let the world.

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Speaker 5: Know how often my life is without Josh Allen. I

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mean she's going out of her way to do it.

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I mean like these like they have no they have

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no skills.

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Speaker 6: Their whole their currency is they're hot and they were

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with a former athlete or I'm.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, they're they're they're they're they're in the x of

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an athlete. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Well it yes, yes, but it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: It is interesting for us.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because they have the confidence to

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do that and say who they are, and it's slightly

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different world those things. I don't know, Yes, because you

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got to stand up there, because you're gonna get ship

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unless you turn off the comments. I mean, you're gonna

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get some ship back. There's gonna be people who say

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stuff to you. So I always go, well, maybe that's

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a confidence thing, and that's okay.

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Speaker 5: It could be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to really think

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about it. I haven't given a whole lot of thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Jeanine Talley, who's Terrell Tally's wife, once said that when

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Britney Mahomes was like after like Patrick Mahomes and the

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Chiefs had finally won a Super Bowl, she became this

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big internet celebrity and a lot of people her and

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she so she goes, I know what that's like because

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I lived it. I know what it's like to be

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the wife or a girlfriend of the next of a jock.

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Speaker 5: And she goes, life will start to humble you. Sure

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one day, it's just hasn't hasn't done it yet?

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I gotta wrap it up. Dan, Sorry,

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it's okay, it's all right. For Dan Burrillo, for Cody Bellinger,

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for Joan Carlos, John Carlos, Josh Allen, for Will Levis,

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Bill Levis, for the teacher Rush Henrietta, who may be innocent.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have his day.

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Speaker 1: Afore, for people who don't have a lot of people

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at their funeral home at their funeral. Yeah, your radio days,

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I Bill Morett.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow.

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