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Speaker 1: Start the show with Andy McCarthy, the nation's best legal analyst,
Speaker 1: you know it's going to be a very good day. Andy,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3: Dan, great to be with you as always well.
Speaker 1: So grateful for your time and I know there are
Speaker 1: a lot of demands on you always, but in particular today,
Speaker 1: so I will get right to it.
Speaker 2: And for those new to the planet.
Speaker 1: Andy of course is the preeminent analyst, National Review scholar
Speaker 1: as well as Fox News analyst, author of Ball of
Speaker 1: Collusion and so much more. But above all, you got
Speaker 1: to listen to his podcast, The McCarthy Report. I catch
Speaker 1: it every time it drops. So Andy, I've been dying
Speaker 1: to get your in person react to the part.
Speaker 3: Well, you know it's it's I said about a million
Speaker 3: times that there would be impardon and you know when
Speaker 3: Biden started in the late spring to say he wouldn't
Speaker 3: pardon his son. My reaction was that he'll keep that
Speaker 3: promise right up until the minute after the elections over,
Speaker 3: So it wasn't just a hunt. Though, if you if
Speaker 3: you closely watched Hunters prosecutions and in particular the tax case,
Speaker 3: his litigation strategy didn't make any sense unless he knew
Speaker 3: he was getting a pardon, right though. That kind of
Speaker 3: confirmed me in the in the you know, in my sense,
Speaker 3: which by the way, I didn't blame Biden terribly for
Speaker 3: I blamed him for lying. I think that was terrible,
Speaker 3: but you know, I understood the fatherly impulse involved that.
Speaker 3: The look in the country in the eye and saying
Speaker 3: something he had to know wasn't true is the despicable part.
Speaker 3: But I think the importance going forward, Dan is the
Speaker 3: pardon doesn't make any sense to me, the structure of
Speaker 3: it and the fact of it, unless there are going
Speaker 3: to be many more pardons, or at least a few
Speaker 3: more pardens, Because it looks to me that you know,
Speaker 3: he's gotten about eleven years of complete community. This is
Speaker 3: not the kind of a part you would expect someone
Speaker 3: to get who is, like you know, has lived an
Speaker 3: otherwise noble life, but has a misstepper too. Along the way.
Speaker 3: This is a complete immunity bath for everything that could
Speaker 3: conceivably be prosecuted under federal law for about an eleven
Speaker 3: year period. In fact, it's the thing. It's the immunity
Speaker 3: that in the Sweetheart Plea deal that blew up. What
Speaker 3: Hunter's lawyers wanted Wife the Special Counsel to say in
Speaker 3: court was that this was the scope of the immunity
Speaker 3: that they were talking about. And it's so absurd that
Speaker 3: Weiss politically couldn't get up and say it, even though
Speaker 3: I'm quite sure that the Hunter's lawyers were accurate in
Speaker 3: thinking that was the scope of the immunity they were getting.
Speaker 3: But it just seems to me that because he now
Speaker 3: has immunity from prosecution, he has no more Fifth Amendment privilege,
Speaker 3: so he can be put in the grand jury if
Speaker 3: the next Justice Department wanted to look at the aspects
Speaker 3: of the Biden influence peddling scheme that the Weis's Special
Speaker 3: Counsel and the Biden Justice Department averted their eyes from.
Speaker 3: So instead of like discouraging that kind of an investigation,
Speaker 3: it kind of entices it by saying, all, right, now
Speaker 3: you have a witness who is at the center of
Speaker 3: it all, who has to testify in the grand jury
Speaker 3: nless you're going to immunize everybody else who was in
Speaker 3: the scheme. Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: To me, which brings us back to Anny McCarthy. Obviously,
Speaker 1: our guest, your point about more pardons to come, where
Speaker 1: do you see that going?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't expect that Biden will pardon himself because
Speaker 3: I think that Trump has said enough times that no
Speaker 3: president or former president should ever have to go through
Speaker 3: what he went through. That I don't think the Trump
Speaker 3: Justice Department would pursue Biden. And I don't think Biden
Speaker 3: could bring himself to pardon himself because that would be
Speaker 3: like an admission of guilt when he's an adamant that
Speaker 3: he's not guilty. But I think other people who were
Speaker 3: involved in the scheme, I mean, you know, look, I
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen, but it wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 3: You know, all these names that we saw come up
Speaker 3: in the House investigation, including Jim Biden, the President's brother,
Speaker 3: and the uncle and confidant of Hunter, and a number
Speaker 3: of these other guys who helped them ructure of these
Speaker 3: payments that were coming from foreign sources. And then we're
Speaker 3: being whacked up and put in various Biden accounts. What
Speaker 3: it was like eleven or twelve different Biden accounts and
Speaker 3: some of these payments, and we're talking about twenty seven
Speaker 3: million dollars in payments of it just I think it
Speaker 3: was just a five or six year period. So I
Speaker 3: just it doesn't I mean, maybe this is a one off,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't make sense to me as a one
Speaker 3: off if you assume, as I do, that what they're
Speaker 3: worried about is a law fair type investigation by the
Speaker 3: Trump Justice Department.
Speaker 1: It doesn't Biden then have to pardon every family member
Speaker 1: who received funds, including wasn't it a granddaughter?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I guess the question you would have
Speaker 3: to ask. And I don't mind playing this out with you,
Speaker 3: because you know, you may come up with insight that
Speaker 3: I don't. But I think what you would have to
Speaker 3: weigh as the prosecutor is which targets would be worth investigating. So,
Speaker 3: for example, there was a granddaughter in the array of payments,
Speaker 3: and that was really just used as a vehicle so
Speaker 3: that they could pass through money to somebody else in
Speaker 3: the Biden family. I'm not going to do an investigation.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of it should be investigated by
Speaker 3: the way. I think it's all Congress already investigated it.
Speaker 3: To me, the statute of limitations is run. I would
Speaker 3: like to see Trump end loss there rather than have
Speaker 3: his Justice Department pursue it. But if I were of
Speaker 3: a mind to do an investigation, I would have to
Speaker 3: have a worthwhile target. So if I thought, for example,
Speaker 3: that you know, somebody higher up in the scheme was
Speaker 3: available as a potential target, I think about it one way.
Speaker 3: If I think it's a low level person who may
Speaker 3: not even have known what was going on and whose
Speaker 3: account was just used as a pass through, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do an investigation over that.
Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy from National Review and much more. Now, Andy,
Speaker 1: going back to your point earlier about Okay, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have his Fifth Amendment privilege anymore because of this pardon.
Speaker 1: How much time would he face if he simply refused
Speaker 1: to testify I refuse to appear before Congress, refused to
Speaker 1: testify in a grand jury. I know those are different issues,
Speaker 1: but how much time could he face collectively there?
Speaker 3: Well, there's no precise limit to it. I mean, generally speaking,
Speaker 3: a prosecutor will charge transactionally rather than offense by offense.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, if I call
Speaker 3: you to the grand jury and you take the fifth
Speaker 3: seventy five times, even though you don't have a fifth amendment,
Speaker 3: I can get you held in contempt seventy five times, okay, Joy,
Speaker 3: But I would probably charge you with one count of contempt,
Speaker 3: and then the jury gets constructed at the end that
Speaker 3: the government alleges that there was seventy five instances of contempt.
Speaker 3: If you find any one of them, you can convict
Speaker 3: the guy. I mean, that's the.
Speaker 4: Way it usually works.
Speaker 3: But you don't really need Everyone is like a five
Speaker 3: year account, so you don't need that much time, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it just tells you how bad the underlying
Speaker 1: behavior was.
Speaker 2: And I know we are already have.
Speaker 1: The convictions, but how bad the total behavior must have
Speaker 1: been to now be willing to expose him to this
Speaker 1: losing his immunity for the purposes of these other hearings
Speaker 1: and investigations.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess from his perspective, though, the immunity he
Speaker 3: cares about is from prosecution, right right, He cares about
Speaker 3: that more than immunity from grand jury. Patinos and let's
Speaker 3: say that he actually went in and testified to the
Speaker 3: Congressional committee, right, So he wasn't fearful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: Maybe he should have been, but he wasn't fearful of
Speaker 3: going in there and testifying. Now, you know, he may
Speaker 3: decide that he didn't go in and testify the grand jury,
Speaker 3: if I'm remembering. And then no one of course asked
Speaker 3: him but from the Biden Justice Department to do that.
Speaker 3: And he had a Livens Amendment privilege because he was
Speaker 3: under indictment, so he wouldn't have been asked to go
Speaker 3: in the grand jury. But if he's asked to go
Speaker 3: in the grand jury, now that's not going to be
Speaker 3: the same thing as being asked to testify before a
Speaker 3: congressional committee with a lot of Democrats on it. This
Speaker 3: is going to be a grand jury with a bulldog
Speaker 3: prosecutor from the Trump Justice Department. And again, yet every
Speaker 3: time I say this, I have to stress I really
Speaker 3: hope this doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Andy, in the last minute, we haven't. You've
Speaker 1: been generous with your time. What do you think this means,
Speaker 1: if anything, in terms of coming pardons from Trump? It
Speaker 1: seems to me that it just gives him a big
Speaker 1: old green light to go pardon whoever he wants to
Speaker 1: and politically at least not face the price he might have.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I kind of felt like before this
Speaker 3: even happened, Trump is of a mind like, you know, look,
Speaker 3: he's going to be a one term president. He's not
Speaker 3: running for re election, and he kind of got elected
Speaker 3: because people who support him think of him as this,
Speaker 3: you know, swashbuckling figure who doesn't give a who you know.
Speaker 3: So I think he might have done what he was
Speaker 3: going to do anyway, but Biden, what Biden has done
Speaker 3: here has certainly given him a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of running rooms.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
Speaker 1: Well, Andy, thank you for your time today and all
Speaker 1: of your great work and above all the McCarthy Report,
Speaker 1: because I can't wait for each of those podcasts to
Speaker 1: drop and look forward to the next one.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Ded. I think we're recording tomorrow, so
Speaker 3: hopefully it'll be out tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I am looking forward to it. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, You take care of that.
Speaker 1: Is Andy McCarthy best in the business eight five to
Speaker 1: five for zero five eight two five.
Speaker 2: Five to number.
Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about today and a
Speaker 1: lot of it local as well. The Denver Post editorial
Speaker 1: board in this kind of really odd and strange effort
Speaker 1: to defend maryork Johnston while criticizing him. Got to dive
Speaker 1: into that here on the Dan Caplo Show.
Speaker 5: Now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6: I don't read you something that the Democratic governor of Colorado,
Speaker 6: Guard Poulis posted about this. He's not okay with the move.
Speaker 6: He wrote in part, I'm disappointed that he put his
Speaker 6: family ahead of the country. This is a bad precedent
Speaker 6: that could be abused by later presidents and will sadly
Speaker 6: tarnish his reputation. Does this pardon does this damage the
Speaker 6: justice system?
Speaker 7: Well, I totally agree with the governor that this pardon
Speaker 7: will tarnish Joe Biden's legacy.
Speaker 2: I mean Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: Let's be clear here, he lied to us for a
Speaker 7: long time. He said categorically, I will not parton my son.
Speaker 7: He said, I will take it off the table, and
Speaker 7: he couched it in very high minded terminology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Elie Hoenig from CNN, who do often
Speaker 1: does a good job. I was more interested in the
Speaker 1: Polish piece dishonesty, right, the hypocrisy.
Speaker 8: Oh Biden, he put family ahead of country. Polis put
Speaker 8: flipping Kim Kardashian. I had of victims who were burned
Speaker 8: to death on I seventy by a homicidal trucker found
Speaker 8: guilty by a Jefferson County jury, sentenced by a Jefferson
Speaker 8: County judge. Polis puts sweet nothings from Kim Kardashian ahead
Speaker 8: of those victims in their families. And by the way,
Speaker 8: that the safety of all Colorado is because if you
Speaker 8: haven't noticed, yeah, we got a lot of great truck
Speaker 8: drivers out there, they're heroes, but you got a big
Speaker 8: part of that industry that is absolutely deadly. And Polis
Speaker 8: just sent this screaming message to the trucking industry across
Speaker 8: the country that yeah, you can come to Colorado and
Speaker 8: do that and get out after five years or so.
Speaker 1: So no total hypocrite here. Here's what's going on. Polis
Speaker 1: is going after low hanging fruit. Is virtually zero downside
Speaker 1: to Polis in taking this shot at Biden. It's not heroic.
Speaker 1: It's cowardly. And it's cowardly because a Polis wouldn't take
Speaker 1: a shot at Biden when it would have served the country.
Speaker 1: And that is what Jared Polis should have done at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the primary season, was say a few
Speaker 1: nice things about Biden and then just say, but I
Speaker 1: got to get into this race, or somebody does, because
Speaker 1: Biden's not competent.
Speaker 2: But he didn't have the courage to do that.
Speaker 1: Instead, he goes after this failing old man now where
Speaker 1: there's no downside to him. But where is this oh
Speaker 1: so honorable and noble and courageous Jared Polis when it
Speaker 1: comes to Jenna Griswold right here in Colorado, And the
Speaker 1: same thing for Crow and Hick and Looper and Bennett
Speaker 1: and the rest of them, and wiser to start with,
Speaker 1: who should be demanding her resignation first of those passwords
Speaker 1: going online, but then making the decision not to tell
Speaker 1: the county clerks, let alone the public. If there was
Speaker 1: an ounce of true intellect, actual honesty, and courage, Polus
Speaker 1: and the rest of those top Dems would have called
Speaker 1: for her resignation, then called for a special prosecutor, called
Speaker 1: for a full public report. But they didn't do any
Speaker 1: of that because they're the opposite of courageous. They're political
Speaker 1: hacks playing a political game. They hold high office. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't change their hack status. That's what's going on here.
Speaker 1: Eight five to five for zero five A two five
Speaker 1: five the number tekes d an five seven seven three nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which brings us to this Denver Post editorial, which is
Speaker 1: one of the odd editorials I've seen there. The headline's Okay,
Speaker 1: Denver's mayor was wrong to threaten armed conflict to protect immigrants.
Speaker 1: But then when you get into the full body of
Speaker 1: the editorial, that's really too long to read. It's really
Speaker 1: an effort to, in my opinion, try to reshape and
Speaker 1: kind of misrepresent what Johnston really did, because the editorial
Speaker 1: makes it out is if it Johnston was understandably upset,
Speaker 1: but he went too far, understandably upset about the idea
Speaker 1: of dreamers being you know, rounded up by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Johnston never qualified his comments that way.
Speaker 1: Johnston never limited it to quote dreamers. Johnston just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to send the Denver police out to the
Speaker 1: county line and then you know, hopefully fifty thousand in
Speaker 1: the streets. So I think the Post is trying to
Speaker 1: rewrite history a little bit to help Johnston and the Democrats,
Speaker 1: not a little bit a lot. And then in the
Speaker 1: piece and they do properly. I commend them for that.
Speaker 1: You know, they talk about Johnston should have employed this
Speaker 1: kind of violent rhetoric. But then the Post goes on
Speaker 1: to say, and this is really interesting, I think worth
Speaker 1: your time. And I think what we're seeing as a
Speaker 1: unified national play by most of the Dems now which
Speaker 1: already shows the Trump effect, the enormous positive benefit of
Speaker 1: Trump being elected, you know, long before he's actually inaugurated.
Speaker 1: And the Denver Post in this editorial is saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we have always called for the deportation of violent immigrants,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing hearing the same thing out of Kathy
Speaker 1: Hochel in New York and a bunch of other Dems.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I'm not doubting the Posts said that
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way somewhere, but it's not like they've
Speaker 1: been out there championing that right, and nor any of
Speaker 1: these other Democrats. But now they're all claiming that they've
Speaker 1: always been for this. Well, it's a very good start,
Speaker 1: right that. Now these Democrats not because they care about
Speaker 1: you or your family or any of the women who
Speaker 1: get raped or the children who get raped, or the
Speaker 1: people who get murdered by criminal illegals, those here illegally
Speaker 1: then commit other crimes. It's not that they've suddenly started
Speaker 1: caring about those people. They care about getting re elected
Speaker 1: and they see the election results, so they've done the calculation. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: in order to get elected or re elected, we now
Speaker 1: have to favor to pour in criminal illegals, because it's
Speaker 1: absolutely insane not to, even though all these Democrats haven't
Speaker 1: been for it for a long time. So anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: positive Trump effect already on that front. But wait for
Speaker 1: the rub when they start saying, oh no, that doesn't
Speaker 1: constitute a criminal illegal.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, what are.
Speaker 1: These Democrats going to say constitutes a quote criminal illegal
Speaker 1: or the other way that A lot of these these
Speaker 1: Democrats are trying to frame it a quote violent criminal illegal. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what are they going to agree constitutes a quote
Speaker 1: violent criminal illegal? And watch how they try to massage
Speaker 1: that definition, which brings us back to the question. You know,
Speaker 1: we all know, right, the reason the Democrats wanted that
Speaker 1: open border and just allowing this unadulterated flow, no vetting
Speaker 1: is is because they want those votes, right, we all
Speaker 1: know that, But this willingness to fight to the death
Speaker 1: to defend and protect those here illegally who have committed
Speaker 1: other serious crimes. Where do you think that comes from.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know your thoughts on that. We have
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about when we come back.
Speaker 2: I do though.
Speaker 1: As soon as we get back, Ryan will remind me
Speaker 1: if I forget this pro driving tip that you may
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Speaker 2: I want to pass that along. You're on the Dan
Speaker 2: Kaplis Show.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: We'll see see.
Speaker 1: Right, and folks around the country who will not violently
Speaker 1: resist on me and.
Speaker 4: The Denver mayor. We agree on one thing.
Speaker 2: He's willing to go to jail. I'm willing to put
Speaker 2: him in jail.
Speaker 1: And the oof was from Cassie Hunt on CNN, and
Speaker 1: it just makes the point, right, Why would you be
Speaker 1: surprised by that? Because the Democrats, the Democrats believe they're
Speaker 1: above the law. Not everyday Democrats, but the people who
Speaker 1: in power, the people who own and operate the party,
Speaker 1: the elect officeholders. Most of them, like Mike Johnston, clearly
Speaker 1: believes he's above the law. Right, that has to be
Speaker 1: his his dominant mindset, or there's no way in the
Speaker 1: world he would publicly say that he's.
Speaker 2: Going to Mountain insurrection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to take the Denver police, send him
Speaker 1: out to the county line, and does stop the federal
Speaker 1: officers from enforcing federal law, and we want fifty thousand
Speaker 1: in the streets to help. He'd never dream of saying
Speaker 1: that unless his operating mo was that he's above the law.
Speaker 1: So why would be she be surprised by the borders
Speaker 1: are saying, you know, put him in jail if he
Speaker 1: does that. Because the Democrats are so used to operating
Speaker 1: outside the law, it's really become at the highest levels
Speaker 1: in many ways, a very lawless party. And the latest
Speaker 1: is obviously what what Joe Biden just pulled? Eight five
Speaker 1: five for zero five eight two five five the number
Speaker 1: and the reason the Democrats are so upset about that
Speaker 1: is is because what it confirms is not just that
Speaker 1: Biden's a liar. Everybody already knew he was a liar.
Speaker 1: What it confirms is that he's corrupt. Because any thinking
Speaker 1: person understands the reason Joe Biden went back on his
Speaker 1: word to the American people and pardon Hunter Biden. Has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Hunter Biden. It's because Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is corrupt and Joe Biden needed to protect Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the far bigger impact of this. And
Speaker 1: it also exposes these media hacks for just being the
Speaker 1: Democratic mouthpieces that they are, so many of them, not all,
Speaker 1: so that that's why you know, it's so devastating to
Speaker 1: the Democrats. Hey, before we go to calls and text,
Speaker 1: I wanted to pass along this pro driving tip and
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Speaker 1: course of that, I pick up all of these amazing
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Speaker 1: And this really highly respected accident reconstruction expert made the
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Speaker 2: I had not thought about it before.
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Speaker 2: Many people would like any wy. Wel come on, Eric
Speaker 2: in Denver. You're on the Dan Kapalis Show.
Speaker 9: Tie, Dan, I wanted to answer your question as to
Speaker 9: why many Democrat politicians will fight to the death to
Speaker 9: protect illegal immigrants and illegal immigrant criminals. I guess you're
Speaker 9: talking about legal immigrant criminals, right, And I think the
Speaker 9: reason for that is that he believes and must know
Speaker 9: that his constituency wants him to do that, and that
Speaker 9: that that's because of you know, it's an overused word,
Speaker 9: but because of the woke ideology and the kind of
Speaker 9: like predominance of extreme sort of leftist views among the
Speaker 9: popular populace of Colorado or Denver at least.
Speaker 2: Well, Eric, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I think you're really onto something, I would just extend
Speaker 1: it a step. I think the reason so many of
Speaker 1: these elected Democrats, including Mike Johnston, have not been out
Speaker 1: there actively campaigning for and supporting deporting criminal illegals who
Speaker 1: commit other crimes while here is not because the average
Speaker 1: Denver right wants those people to stay here. It's because
Speaker 1: the people who can help him, so many of the
Speaker 1: big money people on the left in the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: so many of those big king makers are far left
Speaker 1: secular radicals who do not want criminal illegals deported, that
Speaker 1: they want to destabilize this nation, that they want to
Speaker 1: fundamentally transform this nation, and so they do not want
Speaker 1: criminal illegal supported. One of the reasons for that is
Speaker 1: they want to draw an absolute bright line, we're not
Speaker 1: supporting any deportations, because obviously they view everybody flowing in
Speaker 1: through the border criminal or not otherwise committing crimes or
Speaker 1: not to be potential voters. So I think that's who
Speaker 1: the Mike Johnstons of the world are trying to please,
Speaker 1: those people in power on the left who have the
Speaker 1: chance to help them. And it's very similar in my
Speaker 1: mind to the profoundly immoral trade off that almost every
Speaker 1: elected democrat makes because almost every elected Democrat must understand
Speaker 1: that abortion, as a matter of science, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, is the brutal taking of an innocent human life.
Speaker 1: Yet they support it. They support it for their own gain.
Speaker 1: They support it so they can get elected, so they
Speaker 1: can hold power, and they're willing to support this violent
Speaker 1: taking of innocent human life on a mass scal so
Speaker 1: they can get power. So their decision to oppose deporting
Speaker 1: illegals who commit crimes falls into the same category.
Speaker 2: We are willing to.
Speaker 1: Sacrifice a whole lot of innocent lives so they can
Speaker 1: get and keep power. I think it falls into the
Speaker 1: same category. Height five five or zero five eight two,
Speaker 1: five to five the number. Sorry, I didn't start the
Speaker 1: show with an apology today. I owed you one instead.
Speaker 1: We had Andy McCarthy and you can pick that off
Speaker 1: the podcast at four oh six. But the apology is this,
Speaker 1: once again, I made the mistake of forgetting and of
Speaker 1: telling you in advance what the outcome of a sporting
Speaker 1: event was going to be. And I'm sorry, I know
Speaker 1: that's frustrating. It takes the suspense out of the event,
Speaker 1: and I did that last night with the Bronco game,
Speaker 1: So my apologies. You know, when we made the mistake
Speaker 1: of mentioning before the game that, yeah, the Broncos are
Speaker 1: going to win by a touchdown or more so again,
Speaker 1: I've done that many times. I'll try not to do
Speaker 1: it again. I know that a big part of watching
Speaker 1: the game is not knowing the outcome, so when we
Speaker 1: tell you the outcome in advance, it's really thoughtless on
Speaker 1: my part.
Speaker 2: So profound apologies for that. Speaking of which I.
Speaker 1: Just saw, I just saw one of the greatest headlines
Speaker 1: I've ever seen on CNN. Let me give that to
Speaker 1: you right now.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Most people would tease it into the next segment, but
Speaker 1: I have too much respect for you for that. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to give it to you right now. World
Speaker 1: leaders scramble to flatter Trump. It's a headline I just
Speaker 1: on CNN. World leaders scramble to flatter Trump. Do you
Speaker 1: ever see that kind of headline about Biden? World leaders
Speaker 1: scrambled to flatter Biden?
Speaker 2: No, this is now.
Speaker 1: There are so many great signs, right, but this is
Speaker 1: one of the very best signs. Yeah, world leaders are
Speaker 1: scrambling to flatter Trump. Why Because Trump represents strength. They
Speaker 1: want to please him. They don't want to be on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of him. His thread of tariffs right
Speaker 1: now is already making America safer. And had to like
Speaker 1: that line right to Trudeau about how maybe we can
Speaker 1: make Canada the fifty.
Speaker 5: First day and he can be the governor.
Speaker 2: Hey when we come back.
Speaker 1: A lot of great callers and texts, But one thing
Speaker 1: I want to get into with you is, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to be a sports fan for this to matter.
Speaker 1: But over the weekend there was this explosion of violence
Speaker 1: in college football, these violent fights, and whether you care
Speaker 1: about sports or not, I think there's a much broader
Speaker 1: kind of scary lesson to be drawn from that.
Speaker 2: Here on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Another Democrat, hair Acadams ope.
Speaker 3: Hearing what their plan is to deport some of these folks,
Speaker 3: and you think the city in some circumstances should cooperate
Speaker 3: with life.
Speaker 10: Let me you know what's interesting, And I was hoping
Speaker 10: to the team the other day. I want you to
Speaker 10: all go back and google Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Speaker 10: Google what they said about those who commit crimes in
Speaker 10: our city and.
Speaker 2: What they said in our country. They said those who.
Speaker 10: Commit crimes need to get out right away.
Speaker 2: They sure did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so why and how did all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it become absolute worship on the left that the
Speaker 1: no criminal illegals had to be protected. You know, we're
Speaker 1: not going to cooperate with Ice, and we talked about
Speaker 1: that earlier, my own theory on that. But bottom line
Speaker 1: is that that's going to be changed in lots of
Speaker 1: places right now. Not because these elected Democrats suddenly care
Speaker 1: about the women who are being raped and the girls
Speaker 1: being raped and the other peoples brutally killed, etc. No,
Speaker 1: it's because they care about their own political survival and
Speaker 1: they can see what happened on election night here.
Speaker 11: Why then, Dan, this is what puts the fear of
Speaker 11: God and me. Eric Adams, who at one time was
Speaker 11: a Republican, albeit a moderate one, and now he's a Democrat.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's coming back.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I like what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2: Fronts to be pardoned.
Speaker 5: Maybe, But the mayor of New York City, a Democrat.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's practically putting on a maga hat and said
Speaker 11: I'm going to work with Tom Holman and our commedy
Speaker 11: guy here, Mayor Johnston and Denver is saying no, it's
Speaker 11: Tieneman Square, Denver PD's going to line up at the
Speaker 11: county border and keep Ice out.
Speaker 1: Well, the difference is, and I'm not calling Mike Johnston
Speaker 1: a commie, I mean, but the difference is Mike Johnston.
Speaker 1: Once again, in my opinion, all he cares about is
Speaker 1: Mike Johnston's political advancement and he's after the big money
Speaker 1: on the left so he can be elected governor.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: And so I think that that Mike Johnston, all that
Speaker 1: crazy talk about an insurrection, et cetera that wasn't geared
Speaker 1: to help the people at Denver. How does it help
Speaker 1: the people at Denver, right, Ryan, How does it help
Speaker 1: the people of Denver to poke Donald Trump in the
Speaker 1: eye right now? How does it help the people of
Speaker 1: Denver to go out and promise this insurrection? You know,
Speaker 1: you jeopardize Denver federal funds. Nothing good can come of
Speaker 1: it for the people of Denver. But Mike Johnston doesn't
Speaker 1: care about that, myke. And what he cares about is
Speaker 1: attracting attention from the billionaire donors on the far left
Speaker 1: and getting their support in the governor's race. I think
Speaker 1: that's why he's doing that craziness. But it just comes
Speaker 1: back to these Democrats have shown time and again the
Speaker 1: elected ones they're willing to They are willing to sacrifice
Speaker 1: large numbers of innocent lives to a violent death in
Speaker 1: order to get and keep power in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: They've shown that through their support for abortion up to
Speaker 1: the moment of delivery. They've shown that in their support
Speaker 1: for protecting criminal illegals. That's who I believe we're dealing
Speaker 1: with here, and I think the public's eyes are starting
Speaker 1: to open to that.
Speaker 2: Mike and Arvada, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4: Welcome, all right, I appreciate your show. I listen to
Speaker 4: you every day.
Speaker 2: Oh man, thank you on.
Speaker 4: Your traffic tip. I've always done that with my front
Speaker 4: wheels at left hand turns and driving around, I see
Speaker 4: more people running red lighte so I allow it both ways.
Speaker 4: Always at my traffic tip. A policeman told me in
Speaker 4: Illinois a long time ago that pull up behind someone.
Speaker 8: Pull up.
Speaker 4: Behind them when you can see their rear tires. That's
Speaker 4: a good way to stop in case somebody rare indured. Yeah,
Speaker 4: though is going to get You're not going to get
Speaker 4: pushed in the car in front of you.
Speaker 2: Good advice there.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, and thank you for the very kind words.
Speaker 1: I had mentioned earlier that this tip I picked up
Speaker 1: from one of the experts in one of our cases,
Speaker 1: which is, if you're waiting to make that left hand
Speaker 1: turn at an intersection, make sure you keep your wheels straight,
Speaker 1: is what he advised, because then if you're rear ended,
Speaker 1: you go straight forward in the lane you're in. If
Speaker 1: your wheels have already turned left, then you get pushed
Speaker 1: in front of oncoming traffic. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: a brilliant suggestion. Hey wanted to squeeze this in all
Speaker 1: of these brawls we saw over rivalry weekend in college
Speaker 1: football this weekend, at the broader point, and I understand
Speaker 1: you may not care about sports. The broader point is
Speaker 1: this thin veneer of civilization, This concept we've talked about
Speaker 1: before on the show where things can break down so quickly, Right,
Speaker 1: things that appear so stable and appear so certain can
Speaker 1: just all disappear very quickly if there's enough hardship. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about this in terms of broader society, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what we saw over the weekend, where in
Speaker 1: college football you normally don't see these big, truly violent brawls,
Speaker 1: But then one happened in the Michigan Ohio State game.
Speaker 1: It got a lot of attention because it was the
Speaker 1: Michigan Ohio State game. Some idiot from Michigan tried to
Speaker 1: plant the Michigan flag at the Ohio State fifty after
Speaker 1: they beat Ohio State, and a violent brawl broke out,
Speaker 1: I mean a real fight and police had to use
Speaker 1: pepper spray, etc. Then all of a sudden, what happened
Speaker 1: over the rest of the weekend, We see a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other violent brawls breakout. It says if people
Speaker 1: watching it happen at Michigan Ohio State then green lighted that.
Speaker 1: Somehow the stigma was off, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we see this copycat behavior all over the place and
Speaker 1: deeply disturbing. I hope there's lots of very serious punishment
Speaker 1: for that. But my broader point is, yeah, this thin
Speaker 1: veneer of civilization because we we just think we're so advanced, right,
Speaker 1: we think we're so superior, We think we know everything,
Speaker 1: we're in control of everything, you know, and we are
Speaker 1: so blessed, right, we're lottery winners to live in the
Speaker 1: greatest nation in the history of the world. But all
Speaker 1: I'm saying in the end is so much of that
Speaker 1: is so less stable than it appears. And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be a donor. My broader point, if you'll
Speaker 1: allow me this, is that, hey, the only thing certain
Speaker 1: is God, that the only true stability is we've gotten
Speaker 1: the rest of this stuff. As hard as we work
Speaker 1: in society, works and everything else, there's just this thin
Speaker 1: veneer of civilization doesn't move. We should get depressed, just
Speaker 1: just be realistic about what's long term and what is
Speaker 1: it