WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:06.799 Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:11.039 It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacey, Hervella me, 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.000 Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson Stacy. 4 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:19.839 Today's topic plants that like to move and plants that 5 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:23.359 don't like to move. And I've been thinking about this 6 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:27.000 and I need to share with you that I'm not 7 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.800 so sure I've ever found a plant that I don't 8 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.159 want to move. Wow. 9 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:34.439 If that's a good thing or a bad thing. 10 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.960 I know I'm not saying it's a good thing, but 11 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.200 you know, rejuvenation is a good thing. For years when 12 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:43.679 I ran my business, I always had a small bottle 13 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.960 of Tabasco sauce on the ledge because Tabasco sauce always 14 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:50.880 was a good reminder for me that just adding a 15 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.280 little bit to a dish can change the whole dish. 16 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:56.880 Right, That's very true. Yeah. 17 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.520 I think that it's important for people to understand that 18 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:04.680 moving plants is a normal thing to do as a gardener. 19 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.560 You know, I think there's this kind of myth or 20 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:11.560 belief out there that gardeners, especially people who have many 21 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.599 years of experience like you and I get it right 22 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:18.640 the first time, and newsflash, we do not even maybe 23 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.200 we do when we change our mind and it doesn't 24 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:24.200 feel so right anymore. It's not like multiple choice tests. 25 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.239 There is an open ended essay exam and so yeah, 26 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:31.879 you have the opportunity to for most things. There are 27 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:35.560 certainly exceptions, but you do have the opportunity to change 28 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.159 your mind and move the majority of different types of plants. 29 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:41.439 Thank you for saying that. I appreciate that because that 30 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.760 gives me permission, and what I'm trying to do is 31 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:48.040 give folks permission to do it. Also because you reach 32 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.200 a point, of course with some plants where you need 33 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.319 you just simply need to move them. They're too close 34 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.959 to the house, or you're sick of them in that location, 35 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.400 they're getting too big or whatever. I think the key 36 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:03.560 is recognizing, number one, you can do this. I mean, 37 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:08.360 they move houses, for crying out, true, If they move houses, 38 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.240 you can move some plants and take a shot at it. 39 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:16.240 I think the key from my experience, Stacy, is don't 40 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.240 do it during prime time, that is for sure, and 41 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:25.000 that means for both the individual and the plants. So 42 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.680 as an individual, don't go out there and move plants 43 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.039 when it's sunny and it's beautiful outside. Do it when 44 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.319 it's overcast, kind of drizzly, not real nice to be outside. 45 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.639 And the same applies to plants. Don't move them when 46 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.599 they're in their prime, move them during their. 47 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.960 Off season, yeah, the dormant season. So I think this 48 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.280 is great timing. We did another show back in October 49 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.960 called bus to Move that was more about how to move, 50 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.639 and now we're going to talk about specifically plants that 51 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.719 want to be or that can be moved, and those 52 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.120 that maybe are a little more resentful of being moved. 53 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.159 But the overall thing, the reason we're doing this is 54 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.599 because we are coming up on a perfect time for 55 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.919 moving plants when they are dormant. And of course the 56 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.360 ground is not frozen and covered with two or three 57 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.800 feet of snow as it is at the moment. So 58 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.759 perhaps in another you know, six weeks or so here 59 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.599 in Michigan, we're getting into prime plant moving time when 60 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.439 those plants are dormant. Is a great time to move 61 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.120 things that you have been thinking about switching around. 62 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:31.439 Exactly, And you know, I guess I think about moving plants. 63 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:36.080 You know, I remember clearly sitting on a Chase Lounge 64 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.960 in Las Vegas, sipping on an adult beverage and watching 65 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.439 them move trees and large plants from the old desert 66 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.280 into the wind resort. They were moving some of these 67 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.719 plants with helicopters. 68 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:50.319 Wow. 69 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.039 And the same applies an interview I did back in 70 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.400 twenty ten with individuals who were restoring the tree that 71 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:01.039 survived the collapse of the Twin Times in New York 72 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.039 and bringing that tree back to life and then moving 73 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.240 that tree to the Memorial Plaza where it stands today. 74 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.120 My point is, Stacey, the attitude I take is where 75 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:14.479 there's a will, there's a way. 76 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:17.439 For the average person, some of those things may be 77 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.519 a little out of reach. It's not beat around the 78 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:21.000 bush here. 79 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:21.560 You know. 80 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.480 Moving trees, I think is one place, especially if they're 81 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.879 more mature trees like the ones that you just described, 82 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.040 is an area where it is possible, but the expense 83 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:33.600 and effort may not be worth it. And certainly you 84 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:37.000 can find online amazing stories of you know, huge oak 85 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:40.519 trees being relocated, and those are all very very interesting 86 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.360 to see. But you know, overall, unless something has you know, 87 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.879 huge historical or esthetic value, it's not easy to do 88 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.399 for mature trees, but almost anything else, even young trees, 89 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.839 you know. But I think, as with everything else in horticulture, 90 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:58.480 the key is to have realistic expectations about what happens 91 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.480 after you move something. An interesting situation from my own 92 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:05.920 garden where several years ago I bought two pawpaw seedlings, 93 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.639 so papa are a native edible papaw, and planted them 94 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.000 in my garden and they're fairly slow growing. But it 95 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.480 soon became obvious that the way that we had positioned 96 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.360 them was not right, so I moved one of them 97 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:22.360 about a year after I planted. Now, poppas are trees 98 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.360 with a tap root, so this is something that you 99 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.240 need to look for. I'm sure we're going to be 100 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.160 going there later. If a plant has a tap root, 101 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.279 so think a little bit like a carrot, you know, 102 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.000 deep root like that, rather than a large spread out 103 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.680 root system. They tend to not take to transplanting quite 104 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.279 as well, and Papa's are one of those. So I 105 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.560 dug my hole, I moved the tree, and it is 106 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.959 pretty much fine now, But for about two or three 107 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.560 years it was pretty surprising to see how two of 108 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.519 the same plants planted at the exact same time. One 109 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.240 of them was so severely set back from this movie, 110 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.000 so it probably took about two years for it to recover. 111 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.680 That first year after I moved it, it didn't grow 112 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:04.480 hardly at all. 113 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:04.759 On top. 114 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.839 It was alive, it leafed out, it was okay, but 115 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.040 it was like, whoa, I am recovering. 116 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:10.800 I'm not growing. 117 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.279 I just need to take a year off and then 118 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.160 almost like resetting, you know, sleep creep leap. It was 119 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.240 a sleep year for that first year, it was a 120 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:20.800 creep year for the second year, and then by the 121 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.160 third year. Now they're almost back together. But you do 122 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.160 have to understand that even though we do freely move 123 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.439 plants around, there is a little bit of a plant 124 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:31.480 penalty there to pay. 125 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.759 Oh, I agree, And when I say I haven't met 126 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.800 a plant I don't want to move, I do say 127 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.519 that tongue in cheek. I've done some pretty crazy things 128 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.800 in my life. But your point is well taken. We're 129 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:48.120 primarily talking here about perennials and shrubs, not necessarily trees 130 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.959 and stacy. A couple of examples rhododendrons. You know, people 131 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.360 have said to me, well, you can't move a big, 132 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.560 beautiful rhododendron. Well, you can. The root system is it's 133 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:03.800 not a it's a smaller root system proportionately to the plant, 134 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.439 and you can stump it, you can cut it back, 135 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.480 maybe sacrifice the flowers for one year. Another example would 136 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.399 be p and ees. People have always said to me, 137 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.120 while P and e's are a perennial that doesn't like 138 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.040 to move, and I'm like, I've moved them almost any 139 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.120 time of the year and had success. Sure, you don't 140 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.000 want to plant them too deep or too high, because 141 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.759 you're going to have problems with blooming. But again, where 142 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:29.920 there's a will, there's a. 143 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:34.160 Way, And you know, I think it's important to question 144 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.279 some of that quote unquote conventional wisdom about things like 145 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.759 moving p and e s or even clematists. I mean, 146 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.800 you need to do your research and understand perhaps why 147 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.600 those beliefs are in place. And I think the one 148 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.639 for penis is primarily because when they're move people do 149 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:52.600 often plant them too deep. It's very easy to plant 150 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.199 them too deeply, and we've answered that question in mailbag 151 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:56.439 a couple of different times. 152 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:58.439 But you know, do your research. 153 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.240 If someone says, oh, you can't possibly move this, think 154 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:04.079 about the reasons why, you know, think about why are 155 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:05.839 they saying that in the I'm sure people say you 156 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.639 can't transplant a popa either, And I wouldn't say it 157 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.519 was the most well advised thing that I've ever done. 158 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:13.480 But you know, that's the other thing about being a 159 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.000 gardener is you if you're willing to take on those risks, 160 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.759 risk your investment in the plant, risk your investment in 161 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.360 that time and effort, then you know that's that's your decision. 162 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:23.439 And are you glad you did it? 163 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.240 Stay, I'm very glad I did it, very much so. 164 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.519 And that's the point. So, I mean, you know, again, 165 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.800 some things just don't want to move. I'm standing on 166 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.200 my deck looking at my patio furniture. I'm saying, you 167 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.360 guys got to move, and they're like, no, we're good. 168 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.600 We're gonna sit this one up. Bad dad joke. But 169 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.960 getting back to the taparate thing that you were diving into. 170 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:47.039 So if you think about some perennials like baptisia, or 171 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:51.039 you've talked often about the roots on clematis yep, yep, 172 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:56.919 the heart leaf brunera, or coral bells foamy bells. What 173 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.879 about our high biscus, like our summarific high biscus. 174 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.879 Well, I just moved a lot of summarific Hibiscus ampaptesia 175 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.200 at the end of fall last year, so I am, 176 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.720 you know. And it is easier for us to move 177 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:12.399 things living in a sandy soil than people who have 178 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:15.399 clay soil, because it's a lot easier to expose those 179 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:19.399 roots and to get more of the roots. But I 180 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.120 am eager to see what might be happening with those pronouns. 181 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.559 I have every confidence that they're alive. I'm not worried 182 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.440 about that. But whether or not I'll see flowers this year, 183 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:33.120 and if so, how many will be to be determined. 184 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.759 So stay tuned for the update this June and August. 185 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:39.799 That's very interesting. You know. My general rule of thumb 186 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:44.399 is if it's a clumping plant and divides easily, it 187 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.240 moves pretty easily. If it's a single stem, even lavender 188 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.559 that acts like a woody plant single stem more difficult 189 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:58.039 than let's say, daylilies or hostas. Yeah, so you know again, 190 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.360 and if you have a s situation where it simply 191 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.000 has to go and you're facing just eliminating the plant, 192 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.399 why not at least give it a shot. It's great 193 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.879 exercise and fresh air. 194 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:09.639 And you learn something. 195 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.159 And that's what gardening is all about, is, you know, 196 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.360 taking an educated approach to what you need to need 197 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.720 or want to do, making the right decision, acting on it, 198 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:21.720 and then seeing what happens. 199 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.399 Well, let's see how Stacey ties it in and plants 200 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:27.440 on trial. That's coming up next here on the Gardening 201 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:28.399 Simplified Show. 202 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.200 Beautify your home and community with proven Winner's Color Choice 203 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:40.320 Shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique varieties 204 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.000 to choose from. 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And Rick, I can't believe 212 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.320 you went the whole first segment without your famous saying 213 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.240 that your plants have been moved so often they're eligible 214 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:11.440 for Frequent Flyer miles. 215 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:14.919 Yes, or I just bent over and split my plants 216 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:15.919 now I. 217 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.960 Have to ask you something. It wasn't all that long 218 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.399 ago that you moved from a house where you had 219 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.879 lived in garden for many years to a new home. 220 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.480 And when you did that, did you move any plants? 221 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:28.799 Yes? 222 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.080 I do, how many? Like roughly, I'm going. 223 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:32.919 To say probably about twenty. 224 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.960 Oh wow, that's pretty impressive. And was it shrubs, perennials, a. 225 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.320 Mix primarily perennials and grasses? No surprise. 226 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:42.879 Oh, you were brave enough to dig up a grass. 227 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:43.480 That's uh. 228 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.639 I mean, you know, you know with grasses, they're readily 229 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:51.240 they're pretty easy to divide and move as far as 230 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.519 they're being willing to do so. It's whether or not 231 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.399 the individual wants to go through the grief. Right. 232 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:58.039 Absolutely. 233 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.440 There was a condo down the street from me, and 234 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.840 last summer I saw some guy trying to dig out 235 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.519 some ornamental grasses from the front yard and he caught 236 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.399 my eye as I was walking by, and I said, oh, 237 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.360 tough job, good luck. Went back the next day nothing 238 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:12.919 had been moved. 239 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:14.759 He gave up on the whole thing. 240 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:17.200 I believe it. 241 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:21.519 So, if you're listening, mister, I understand. But anyway, it 242 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.519 is great that we can move plants, and I have 243 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.200 often moved plants. And when I moved, I ended I 244 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.840 was moving in July, and it wasn't the ideal time 245 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:30.600 to move plants. But I wasn't going to just leave 246 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.799 them my rental and not have them at my house, 247 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:34.440 So I moved a bunch of stuff too. 248 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.159 This past summer. You know, you tore out the entire lawn, 249 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.360 you had to move some plants too, right. 250 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.399 I didn't have to move too much at the beginning 251 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.919 of the project. I saved all the moving really for 252 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.480 the fall, Okay, because by the time the whole line 253 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:49.840 project got sorted out, I just said, you know what, 254 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:53.080 it's getting too close to hot weather. So I didn't 255 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.279 move that much then. But I spent every single free 256 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.960 weekend in September and October moving plants. So I'm also 257 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.320 very experienced, and that really is one of the great 258 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.480 things about perennials and shrubs. Now, as we said, you 259 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.120 can't really successfully move more mature trees, you can try. 260 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.120 We had a question in mailbag not too long ago 261 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.399 about someone who had a little Japanese maple that was 262 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.279 really struggling. We advise them to move that, and we 263 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.639 also advise someone in the last episode to dig up 264 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.799 their gink go that was getting girdling. So you know, 265 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.840 within maybe a couple of years of being planned in 266 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.919 one two to three years, if you get a kind 267 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.360 of a smaller plant, a smaller tree, you can typically 268 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:34.159 get away with it. 269 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:37.000 But if you're going to do that plan ahead, I 270 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.120 still think taking a spade cutting into the roots a 271 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.480 month or two before moving it, trying develop some hair 272 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:44.600 roots will help. 273 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:45.080 If you can do that. 274 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.879 If you can do it, I mean, if if you 275 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.799 thought of doing it in time, is really the main thing. 276 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.080 So it's great that we can move things. But just 277 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.320 because you can move plants that and most plants are 278 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:02.159 very adaptable to being moved, doesn't necessary mean that you should. 279 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:04.519 Because as I said, there is a little bit of 280 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.200 a plant penalty to pay. It does set things back, 281 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.320 and how much it sets something back can be based 282 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.600 on a lot of different factors and the reaction can 283 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:15.759 be different. So a plant might not flower for a 284 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:19.840 few years, it might grow very little. It might you know, 285 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.960 kind of just sitting there and sulking whatever other features 286 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.240 you're growing it for. You just might not see that, 287 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.679 you know, in its full effect. For a couple of years, 288 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.240 and some plants that people say don't like to be 289 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.679 moved really just don't ever recover from it. You know. 290 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.360 There's certainly some plants that just they'll never really get 291 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.240 back to where they were, and you're better off just 292 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.639 starting with something that was grown a container and you 293 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:46.639 can put into your yard. But in all of my 294 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:51.360 years of helping gardeners with gardening questions, I would have 295 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.759 to say that the plant that I have been asked 296 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:59.320 the most frequently about whether it can be moved is 297 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:03.240 big leaf hyde hydrange of macrophilla. That makes sense, Yeah, 298 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.919 So I think it's for a couple of reasons. Number one, 299 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.639 because hydrange of macrophilla or big leaf hydrangea, is the 300 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:13.080 type of plant that is highly sensitive to its spot. 301 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:13.919 Uh. 302 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:16.960 You know, where you plant a big leaf hydrangea, especially 303 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.919 if you live in a cooler climate, can make or 304 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.480 break your experience. You can have a great experience and 305 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.000 feel like you are a rockstar gardener, or you can 306 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.559 have a terrible experience and feel like you have You know, 307 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:31.559 you're never gonna have success growing a plant again. It 308 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.480 really needs to be in kind of the right spot. Again, 309 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.600 because it has its flower buds for the following summer 310 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.120 all winter. It's important that it is kind of more 311 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:43.559 protected in these colder climates so that it's not getting 312 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:47.519 you know, huge blasts of cold air, heavy loads of ice, 313 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.480 all of that kind of stuff. So it's got that 314 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:51.600 site sensitivity. 315 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:53.639 Number two. 316 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.639 I think it's a plant that when a shrub, it 317 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:57.600 is a shrub, it is a true woody shrub. But 318 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.120 I think when most people look at it, they got so, 319 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:01.919 you know, what that looks like a plant that could 320 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:04.120 probably be moved. Sure, it kind of looks like a 321 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.039 perennial clumpy, Yeah, look clumpy, And so people maybe have 322 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.039 the sense that looks like something I could move, compared 323 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:14.120 to something that maybe is really really large or you know, 324 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.279 has a trunk and it resembles more of a tree. 325 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.639 And the third one goes back to what we were 326 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.000 saying a few weeks ago about dwarf Elberta spruce, which 327 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.000 is that when people get their hydrange of Macrophilla at 328 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.840 the store, they're like, oh, look at this cute little thing, 329 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.799 And especially older varieties of big leaf Hydrangea can easily 330 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.159 get to be five feet tall and wide, and it 331 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.559 can be very difficult to believe that this cute little 332 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:43.120 one gallon blooming hydrangea that your you know, darling child 333 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.000 got you from Mother's Day or whatever, is going to 334 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:49.240 grow into a five foot by five foot shrup. 335 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.039 I'm with you here. I've seen it, been there, done that, 336 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.759 you know. I can't believe if I look back, the 337 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.759 number of people I've suggested move a macrophilla hydrangea because 338 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.960 it's on the west or south facing of their home 339 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:05.680 and their struggling. Yeah, so it's easy to say, well, 340 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.319 you need to move that plant. But I agree with you. 341 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:12.119 I think that because it has this clumping nature, people 342 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:13.519 are willing to give it a shot. 343 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:13.839 Yeah. 344 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.519 And it does have a shallow fibrous root system, and 345 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.400 it is very easy and amenable to moving. And if 346 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:25.039 you have one that hasn't been doing well and you 347 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.160 do want to move it, this coming March, when the 348 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:30.559 ground is finally workable again and the plant is dormant, 349 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.920 would be a perfect time to go ahead and do that, 350 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.319 or to replace it with a higher performing, proven winners 351 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.200 hydrange Just saying like let's stance Skyview or Letstance can do. 352 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.440 But those aren't today's plant on trial. No, today's plant 353 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.519 on trial is a hydrange of Macrophylla that is so 354 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.440 small you won't have to worry that it's going to 355 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.319 need to be moved. Oh I love this And this 356 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.720 plant is we bit grumpy big leaf hydrangea, so you 357 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.240 can guess by the name we bit that it is small. 358 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.720 It reaches two feet tall and about two and a 359 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:05.599 half feet wide, So that's a perfect size for you know, 360 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.000 landscaping around a condo or an apartment or other small space. 361 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:11.920 Very easy to incorporate in things like flower beds and 362 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:16.039 perennial gardens. And you know, just one that's not going 363 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.119 to outgrow its space or overgrow your dining room windows, 364 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:19.519 because I feel like that's what most people do with 365 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:21.799 big leaf hydrangeas, right plant them in front of their 366 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.160 front windows. Think it's going to be great, and the 367 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:25.599 next thing you know, they're five feet tall and they 368 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:29.640 can't see out their windows. So wee bit grumpy small. 369 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.480 And you might be wondering about the grumpy part of 370 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.200 its name. It is not because it is a difficult 371 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.640 to grow big leaf hydrangea. It most certainly is not 372 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.440 just as easy to grow as any other proven winter's 373 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.440 color choice big leaf hydrangea. But I like to tell 374 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:45.519 the story of its name, because it's kind of a 375 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.279 funny story. So when we get plants in for our trials, 376 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.880 whatever that trial group is, it gets a working name. Right, 377 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.000 we're humans trialing these plants. So even though it would 378 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.240 be probably more objective to give it a number, no 379 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:00.880 one remembers numbers. I mean, you know, they need like 380 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.759 some sort of name, so they have. Our R and 381 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.680 D team has used everything from like planets, dog breeds, 382 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.799 different things like this, and those become the working names. 383 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.519 So with its particular Hydrangea Macrophila trial, there were seven 384 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:17.960 plants and they were named for the seven Dwarfs as 385 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.720 their working names from the Snowed and the Seven Dwarf story. 386 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:27.079 And when the trial was complete, we Grumpy was not 387 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:28.839 wee bit grumpy at the time. It was just Grumpy 388 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.839 was the last plant standing. And we loved the color. 389 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.440 So it had this like beautiful, moody, dark purple flowers 390 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:38.519 on it, and it was one of those things that 391 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.160 every time someone looked at the tag to say, oh, 392 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.000 you know, hey, which plant is this and they saw Grumpy, 393 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:45.599 they got a little kick out of it, you know, 394 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.680 they kind of chuckled. And so when it came time 395 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.160 to name the plant. You know, we're like thinking about 396 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.759 all these you know, conventional plant names like oh, beautiful 397 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.759 and pretty and magically, you know, all of these kinds 398 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:00.160 of names, and we're like, let's just go with grumpy. 399 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.119 And what I love about the name is it's still 400 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.400 making people laugh when they see it. So because everyone 401 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:09.039