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<v Speaker 1>The first shift, the great shift. Welcome to the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of midnight. Dave Scott, Canadian. What was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>vacation you ever had?

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<v Speaker 2>Every staycation I was forced to take by Rogers Media

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<v Speaker 2>Company was Because they didn't pay me enough to put

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<v Speaker 2>money away to actually have a true vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever people say, well, you know, I think I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>stay home and have a staycation. I know they're broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will never have another staycation in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to have too many of them when I

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<v Speaker 2>worked in radio back in the 90s and early 2000s.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just figured, you know what, from now on,

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<v Speaker 2>Why waste my time sitting at home twiddling my thumbs

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<v Speaker 2>when I could at least be getting paid for it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think by federal law, federal Canadian law, that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in radio, you're working in radio, you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Rogers used to force us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to travel. No, a smart company will

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<v Speaker 1>make you take the vacation. What I've said to my

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<v Speaker 1>friends is you got to understand they're paying you to

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<v Speaker 1>take time off. Therefore, it must be very important. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>you should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought about it that way. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And people who don't, I know people, big jobs who

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<v Speaker 1>don't take vacation. Well, you know, I don't take vacation

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<v Speaker 1>because I love my job.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with liking or not liking

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<v Speaker 1>your job. Everybody needs a different perspective and a break.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if you're like very serious about your vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>you will learn something. about yourself, or about the world

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<v Speaker 1>that will help you do your job. And especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you travel, I am so glad that I took a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the sweetest trip. I took a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>the Park Hyatt across from that spectacular theater in Sydney, Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sydney Harbour at the Park Hyatt overlooking the Sydney Harbour.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for 10 days because I had so

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<v Speaker 1>many hotel points and so many American airline points that

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<v Speaker 1>the whole trip cost me $ 800 for the rent-a-car. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was just great. But I learned a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>because I listened to Australia radio. And the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I heard on Sydney radio, number one talk station in Sydney, 2GB,

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<v Speaker 1>their big star, I turn on the radio and I

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<v Speaker 1>hear him cursing. And Cursing in ways that if you

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<v Speaker 1>or I did, we'd be fired. But it's legal in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what? Nobody died. Nobody in Sydney was

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<v Speaker 1>reported dead because they heard a guy cursing on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, it literally is. Nobody died. That amazes me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're trying to, instead of using proper English, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to make up these terms like unalive and pew-pews

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<v Speaker 2>for guns. You know, it's ridiculous how that's going, that

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<v Speaker 2>they're censoring us on social media and other places because

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<v Speaker 2>words can hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, what's the name of your FCC? I just

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<v Speaker 1>slipped my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>The CRTC.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting at a convention, the Canadian Music Week Convention,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the best convention I've ever been to. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting next to a member of the CRTC on

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<v Speaker 1>a panel And they're going over things that they had

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<v Speaker 1>to censor. And he's going, da-da-da, and when we did this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Power Rangers. I said, what? Yes, there was

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<v Speaker 1>an incident with the Power Rangers. We were afraid it

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<v Speaker 1>would incite violence in children. I looked at him in

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<v Speaker 1>front of 500 people. I said, that's a cartoon. And

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<v Speaker 1>the place went crazy. They went crazy. It was an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>Your CRTC, the guy was saying, Yeah, we've censored a cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cartoon. It's silly what they get excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>And throughout history, as you know, the standards change. They move.

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<v Speaker 1>Our culture changes. To put in absolutes about what you

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<v Speaker 1>can and can't say always at some point makes you

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<v Speaker 1>look ridiculous because it has evolved. Lucy and Desi could

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<v Speaker 1>not sleep in the same bed is the favorite example.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love Lucy. They couldn't sleep in the same bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hopefully we grow up a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, my friend. All right, Dave Scott, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have to report from outer space?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a new UFO poll out put up by Gallup,

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<v Speaker 2>the famous polling station. And every few years, about every

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<v Speaker 2>70 years, they do this poll about whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Americans believe the government is withholding UFO information. The question is,

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<v Speaker 2>In your opinion, does the United States government know more

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<v Speaker 2>about UFOs than it is telling us? Now, in 1996,

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<v Speaker 2>it was 71% yes, 19% no, and 10% had no opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Those numbers switched a little bit in 2019, going down

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<v Speaker 2>to 68% yes, 29% no, and 2% no opinion. Fast

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<v Speaker 2>forward to today, it is now 78% of all Americans

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<v Speaker 2>believing that the government is playing shenanigans. I'm using that

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<v Speaker 2>word again two nights in a row because I know

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<v Speaker 2>you like it. Shenanigans with UFOs. No, 17% people don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that there's anything UFO related here. And 5% is

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<v Speaker 2>no opinion. Now, this is an incredible stat that It

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<v Speaker 2>really goes to show that the American public is starting

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<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to the whole UFO subject, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>that we may not be alone in the universe. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the highest number that I've ever seen at 78%. So

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<v Speaker 2>good on you, United States, for starting to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens are here, and maybe you're going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>us some toast.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it match your numbers, what you believe?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be around 55%, 60%,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest. I mean, to be over three-quarters of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States believing this, I think the disclosure movement,

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<v Speaker 2>it means that it's moving forward on a public level. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean the government is going to come out

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<v Speaker 2>with any sort of disclosure, but the American public's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're probably there. It also gives me hope that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to see a bunch of wingnuts go crazy

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<v Speaker 2>if all of a sudden the president comes out and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we are not alone in this universe.

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<v Speaker 1>My concern is that let's say the files that have

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<v Speaker 1>been released so far and there's nothing. In fact, as

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<v Speaker 1>you pointed out and you revealed, one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>files is a Walter Cronkite interview of an astronaut that

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<v Speaker 1>was aired on the secret network known as CBS. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's how ridiculous they've been. But let's say that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that all the files that are going to be released

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<v Speaker 1>are in fact all of the files, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's in there. If that's the case, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute truth, the government will never be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sell it. We won't believe that that's the absolute truth.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, and it comes down to the technology, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why I'm very staunch on reminding people there is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge difference between UFOs and what the government is

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<v Speaker 2>calling UAP, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. My sources over the years

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<v Speaker 2>have told me that UAP are man-made objects, man-made objects

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<v Speaker 2>being from drones to any sort of weather balloon or

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<v Speaker 2>anything that could be flying in the sky. And as

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<v Speaker 2>long as we're discerning what is right from wrong, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to give up the UFO story because they

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<v Speaker 2>got their UAP story to cover it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting how many people who used to work in

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<v Speaker 1>the government come out and say, yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff there. There are alien bodies. There are aliens alive.

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<v Speaker 1>There's technology. They come out. They reveal it. They say

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. And then they don't talk anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get that all the time. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like they just want to get that off their chest.

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<v Speaker 2>That way they can say that they did their little part.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they are on their last breaths on this planet,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe that they are just tired of the secrecy.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe they worked for government agencies where they saw things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is all possible. I mean, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more people, like you always hear the argument, Walter, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was really out there, more people would speak up.

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<v Speaker 2>More people are afraid of their nondisclosure agreements than their pensions,

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<v Speaker 2>their social security checks, what could happen to their families,

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<v Speaker 2>than they are about talking about UFOs. And the last

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<v Speaker 2>thing they want is to be ruined financially because they

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<v Speaker 2>spoke when they should.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I shared some of that letter I sent to

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<v Speaker 1>you and Ross. A listener wrote in saying, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful what I say about technology that

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<v Speaker 1>the government might have. I didn't say the person's name.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say what their job had been. But this

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<v Speaker 1>piqued your interest quite a bit. Why are you so

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<v Speaker 1>interested in that note?

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<v Speaker 2>Three little letters that they used to work for.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, got it. Do you think it's legit?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could be somebody who's fear-mongering. The only

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<v Speaker 2>way we're going to find out is if Ross and

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<v Speaker 2>I are able to talk to the person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you can, because there couldn't be two

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<v Speaker 1>better reporters, and I would feel very safe with both

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<v Speaker 1>of you making that call, because you're not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to trip anything, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out information. I think it would be very exciting

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<v Speaker 1>and interesting. Now, more importantly, do you have any Sasquatch information?

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<v Speaker 2>Not tonight. I'm taking a week off my Sasquatch, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do have something for you. Because last night you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of threw a quick story that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do because you're going on the air Saturday morning. Yes, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted... A number of people, a few people to

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<v Speaker 2>put together a panel about alien abduction, people who have

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<v Speaker 2>been taken. Man, have I got a panel for you coming.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So this Saturday, bonus track. Usually I don't

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<v Speaker 1>work Saturday morning, but this weekend I'm working Saturday. They

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<v Speaker 1>had some scheduling challenges and asked Walter Sterling if he

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<v Speaker 1>could step up and help the family. And the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is yes, of course. And I thought, well, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>something special, something promotable. So something special is we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have on a panel of abductees. And Dave Scott

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<v Speaker 1>has put it together. Dave, tell us about this panel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's four people coming on with you, Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a lady named Beth, who is... She doesn't like

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<v Speaker 2>to call herself an abductee. She likes to call herself

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<v Speaker 2>a contactee, who has had contact numerous times over the decades.

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<v Speaker 2>A lady named Nicole is coming on. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>love her. I could actually see you bringing her on

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<v Speaker 2>as a guest frequently, because she's so well-versed in the

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<v Speaker 2>UFO world. After having her own personal experiences from ports

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<v Speaker 2>putting aliens scaring her dog inside her house to missing time.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Rutledge from MUFON in Phoenix is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>joining you. He's an abductee who is able to summon

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<v Speaker 2>down UFOs. And Grant Baker, my UFO reporter, is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be joining you. So that way he could tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about his missing time and UFO experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be fantastic, and you and I will talk

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<v Speaker 1>and coordinate how to do it, but my plan is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a three-hour show, my plan is to have them

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<v Speaker 1>on for about two hours and really tell their stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the time, take us there, what it felt like, everything, beginning, middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and end, and what the result has been in their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>in their thinking, in their view of the universe. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that sound like a good plan?

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<v Speaker 2>It does, and I will tell you that Nicole's She

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<v Speaker 2>is so excited to finally chat with you. She listens

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<v Speaker 2>every night when I'm on the air with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole, I'm really sorry, but you've got to do something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ice cream or something, Nicole.

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<v Speaker 2>She eats peanut butter at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to know how you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she told me. She's one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good. And she's been listening to you since

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<v Speaker 2>you were on KMOX a long, long time ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>she's been listening to you for years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. We're still on KMOX every night. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>KMOX right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know. And that's where she tunes in to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the king of the 50 clears, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that means. I'm way too Canadian

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have 50 clears, like CFRBs have 50 clear. 50,000-watt

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<v Speaker 1>signal without limits.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. All right, you're my friend, Dave Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I will talk tomorrow. We're going to coordinate that,

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. I'm very excited. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an entire show with abductees Saturday morning. Great shift, the

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<v Speaker 1>first shift, and really give them the time to tell

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<v Speaker 1>their stories. Dave Scott, Spaced Out Radio. YouTube, every show

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<v Speaker 1>he's ever done, spacedoutradio.com, the other side of Midnight,