WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.560 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:17.359 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book two, Carl's Doomsday Scenario chapters 3 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:27.480 twenty three through epilogue. In these chapters, the way that 4 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:33.079 this wraps up raises more questions than it answers and 5 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:41.280 is also appropriately infuriating. I think also, I, like so 6 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.520 many of us, I'm just in a bad place, so 7 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:50.640 I think I'm more angry than usual. Buckle up, Welcome 8 00:00:51.320 --> 00:01:12.239 to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. 9 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.879 Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. 10 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:18.719 Michael isn't in the chat yet, but hopefully he will 11 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.400 be able to join us. And today there is Sarah, 12 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.319 fem and Henry are in here with me. So lovely 13 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:27.840 to see you all. I'm actually gonna turn this light 14 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.719 off because i feel a little bit over over lit 15 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.599 these chapters, so I'm gonna have to kind of go 16 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.120 quicker than normal through some of this because this is 17 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.560 actually a really long section. It's about an hour and 18 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.799 a half of the audiobook, which is longer than usual. 19 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:52.159 So then and there are it's there are a lot 20 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.879 of things that I would like to stop and dig 21 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.439 into a bit more. So it's possible that I may 22 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.680 have to continue coverage of these chapters into the next section. 23 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:09.240 We'll have to see. But there is a like when 24 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:14.159 we start off and have picked up just where we 25 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.759 left off with Dona killing Burgundy with the magic missile, 26 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:24.520 Carl is first of all thinking about how he needs 27 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:29.000 to improve his skill at getting up and down, jumping 28 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.360 or flying needs to be added to the list. So 29 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.240 whenever that sort of thing is purposely mentioned, sometimes it's 30 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.080 not really a major plot point. It's just something that 31 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.479 he's like tangentially focusing on as he levels up. But 32 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.599 sometimes it becomes something, you know, So I've got my 33 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:48.360 eye on that in terms of whether or not he 34 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:50.800 is going to find an item, if the AI is 35 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.240 going to explicitly help him, if there's going to be 36 00:02:53.280 --> 00:03:00.520 anything in particular that's like, you know, make this Achilles 37 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:05.960 heel for him, I guess. And he sees that Quill's 38 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:11.400 body is right underneath him and is wanting to loot her, 39 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.479 of course, but there is just no time. And then 40 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:18.680 he has this thing sparkling, and he finds a glass 41 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:24.080 case like for glasses, No, no, a glass case that 42 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.240 has I think a beanie baby's in it right. The 43 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.199 plush creature within was an armored man atop a black horse. 44 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:33.039 I ap peered at the tag which said Kimaris, I 45 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.080 pulled it into my inventory, So, you guys, there is 46 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.800 still a possibility that my thing that I was wondering, 47 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:40.680 which is whether or not any of these beanie babies 48 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.199 are actually beings that have been turned into beanie babies, 49 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:47.560 might actually come true and be something. So I guess 50 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.560 we'll see. I really was like, I was sort of 51 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.960 thinking that if she, if it were missus Quill that 52 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:59.199 did this or miss Quill apologies ma'am who did this, 53 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:06.199 that if she does, the enchantment would relent. But if 54 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.960 it hasn't relented, it's possible that's just not how the 55 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:14.919 spell works, or it's possible that it's nothing. So we'll see. 56 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.079 And Dona is sort of like, I feel like we 57 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.839 pretty much finished the quest. Why isn't it marks finished? 58 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.199 And Carl is like, we needed to find out why 59 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.120 this is happening, and we actually don't have the whole story. 60 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.040 So then they run into as they're making their way 61 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:40.480 to the next location, the dude who is related to 62 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.560 the woman they got the anklet that is the fallen 63 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.720 oak inklet, the wooden jewelry that Doughnut hate so much. 64 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:52.480 They run into a man related to her, and also 65 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.959 the one who killed the divider, that huge thing that 66 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.560 was in the swimming pool that Carl landed on at 67 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:07.000 one point disgustingly. And this dude is in the shape 68 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:13.240 of a tiger, and later on is sort of mentioning 69 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:18.560 that he regrets taking this form. His name is Daniel 70 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:26.040 Bautista II. His class is Swashbuckler, which is lovely, and 71 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:31.319 he was furry and orange, very furry, very orange. He 72 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.839 had the head of a human big cat hybrid with 73 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.920 the orange, white and black markings of a Siberian tiger. 74 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:41.160 It's very much giving the creatures from Skyrim whose names 75 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.759 I forget. And it turns out that he is the 76 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.399 one who had the quest that got fucked up by 77 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.199 Miss Quill being killed early, and he's actually really not 78 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.279 that upset about it. So that's good because I had 79 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.480 said to you guys that I would be livid, and 80 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.040 I really stand by it that I probably would. But 81 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:06.399 like once we meet him, it becomes clear he has 82 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:10.959 fucking bigger issues that he is distracted by and completing 83 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.519 this quest is really like not super high on his 84 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.639 list of concerns and things that are sort of consuming 85 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:22.319 his spirit right now, which makes sense. He says that 86 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:27.000 her apartment was filled with these beanie babies, over a 87 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:30.160 thousand of them, and that he took them all. I 88 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.120 don't know, guys, these beanie babies. They may be something. 89 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:35.519 It would be so cool if we can create like 90 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.600 a little tiny army. Obviously it's not Karl that has them, 91 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:45.879 it's him, but potentially still potentially still, you know. And 92 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.319 he's asking all these roundabout questions, clearly wanting to know 93 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:54.079 whether his family is still alive. And Carl has to 94 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:58.600 say that nobody is left. But they were able to 95 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:03.360 kill the lemurs that were responsible, and he says, yeah, 96 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.319 I was with them when this happened, and it was 97 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.560 so fast, it was like seconds, and there were five 98 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.399 of them. I was with my other cousin and we 99 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.839 barely got away. There had only been three bodies, but 100 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.639 I remembered thinking at the time there'd been enough blood 101 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:24.759 for more. And he says my cousin died the next day. 102 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.000 He'd given up. I had four brothers and sisters, fifteen cousins, 103 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.560 I don't know why I go on. I wish I 104 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.160 hadn't chosen this body. I should have remained true to myself. 105 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.040 We all die anyway. How can we make it to 106 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:44.199 heaven if God doesn't recognize us? Which is just so sad, Like, 107 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:47.639 you know, I'm not somebody who really believes that that 108 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.439 kind of thing matters, but what do I know? And 109 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:55.920 it's devastating to think that maybe people who really do 110 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.480 kind of feel that way or have that fear are 111 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:03.759 walking around without even the comfort of like the afterlife 112 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:08.040 being something that they can hold onto, or is potentially 113 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:13.680 corrupted somehow. Also through all of this, and he says, 114 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.879 I owe you a debt, call me if you need me, 115 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.759 and I will come. And he does a fist bump 116 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.279 with Carl so that they can have the chat between 117 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.800 each other, because that, like physical contact is how you 118 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:29.279 enable that to happen. And Carl hesitates on doing the 119 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.639 fist bump, which like I get on one level, but 120 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:34.360 on the other level, I was sort of like, Carl, 121 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:36.600 I really don't think you need to worry about this guy, 122 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.879 Like why would you hold back on this at all? 123 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:45.399 And Donut is observing what you know? I have been 124 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:48.879 kind of taking note of this whole time, which is 125 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.519 the way that the game guides vary so much that 126 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:59.000 it really has a massive influence over who winds up 127 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:05.039 successful because of the advice that they are given. One 128 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.080 of his sisters or cousins had that been that weird 129 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.519 tree thing. It's like their God wanted them to look stupid, 130 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.960 and Katchia's game guide won't help her. And remember that 131 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.320 floating brain thing that talked them into murdering people. I 132 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.240 think most of these guides don't like their jobs very much, 133 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.559 and they take it out on the crawlers, which is 134 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:30.720 what afore it's really I really need everybody to stop 135 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:34.879 pretending that we all start off life from the same place, 136 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.600 because the quality of support that you have is critical, 137 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.360 and it is impossible for us all to have the 138 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:51.639 same quality of support. It just doesn't happen. So then 139 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.679 Carl starts talking about how nobody really has jobs that 140 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:57.799 they like, and Donna asks him what it is that 141 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:01.240 he would like to do, and he says that he 142 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:06.879 would like to become a forest ranger and that he's like, 143 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.759 you know, seen enough of the ocean, and that that 144 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.960 sounds so peaceful and Donut says I'd write TV shows. 145 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:16.600 Zev and I are going to start a television writing 146 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.799 team and we're gonna make gossip Girl, but with an 147 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.679 intergalactic slant. Zev says, the shows on Earth are better 148 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.440 than anything she's ever seen. We can make new ones 149 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.080 and bring them to the universe. Maybe if the television 150 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.639 shows are good enough, people wouldn't be so interested in 151 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:36.120 watching real life people kill each other. So just knowing, 152 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.080 like what both of them would prefer to do is 153 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:44.279 just lovely. I really liked this little moment. You know. 154 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:49.000 It's the sort of thing that feels as impossible as 155 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.080 it does in real life, where you know, whenever somebody 156 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:53.639 asks you, like, what would you do if you could 157 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:57.840 do anything, most of us it's just simply a pipe dream. 158 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.399 It's not going to happen, whether we like to admit 159 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.799 it or not. We don't all have the opportunities to 160 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:11.080 do certain things. But I like to think that perhaps 161 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.279 saying this out loud might mean something relevant about it 162 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:24.720 comes up in the crawl somewhere, you know, Oh my god, Kaji, 163 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.919 thank you guys in the chair for reminding me that's 164 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:34.279 the name of the cat creatures in Skyrim, so they 165 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:41.320 go to the swordsman depot, and it says I was 166 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.279 more worried about the suits of armor than the lich. 167 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.120 If those guys ever woke up, we were fucked. Even 168 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:49.000 though I was the town's magistrate, nobody seemed to acknowledge 169 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:52.320 that fact, which I did think was kind of surprising that, like, 170 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:59.120 even for official, like what's the word I want? For 171 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.039 people who are like linked to the government, that it's 172 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.519 not affecting them at least it would make sense to 173 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:07.480 me if like the citizens didn't really recognize him, But 174 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:13.399 I would expect for the accompanying. I can't think of 175 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:17.039 the word. You guys, what would you call this? Like branches? 176 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.279 That's not really it, but what I'm saying, like, I 177 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.360 would think that it would apply to them, and apparently not. 178 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:27.639 So there would be a let's see the metallic body 179 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.840 swirled with a yellow aura, all of it leading to 180 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.120 a point in the ceiling. There would be a soul 181 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.960 crystal up there. Someday. Mordecai said at night the guards 182 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.799 were in stasis mode and that they were invulnerable. I 183 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.000 entertained the notion of locking them in their warehouse and 184 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.679 just blowing them all to hell over and over till 185 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:47.559 they died, which would result in an obscene amount of experience. 186 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.840 But it looked as if that wasn't going to happen tonight, 187 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.759 and I wish he hadn't even mentioned it, because I 188 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.679 really love this idea. I would have loved to see 189 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:02.679 that just a group that you can bet on for 190 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.759 god knows how long and just rack up the points 191 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:16.000 like that's incredible. So he is preparing to set off 192 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:19.399 this massive bomb, and there are all these people starting 193 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.720 to gather around and watch their progress. As they are 194 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:27.480 setting this all up. Donut says that she doesn't like 195 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:32.559 the plan, and we have a bit of a flashback 196 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.679 sort of here where we have Mordecai explaining to them 197 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.440 what lyches are and that the best way to handle 198 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:45.919 them is use the fact that they are huge narcissists 199 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:52.360 who want to share their plans against them somehow, and 200 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:58.279 he does a come a conversation in chat where he says, 201 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.840 since the earlier boss you met was a neighborhood boss, 202 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.519 I think this is a borough boss, so even if 203 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:08.240 he's been weakened, you need to come to the fight prepared. 204 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.799 Which once we meet this guy, it's just you know 205 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.279 they got themselves all hyped up and prepared for nothing. 206 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.759 Carl winds up giving Kachia the detonator and she is 207 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:24.399 really uncomfortable with it, and she says, here, Hecla warned 208 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.120 me that you were crazy, which later on he is 209 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.720 told by Odette Hecla thinks that you're unbalanced and is 210 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:36.240 wanting to take Dona for herself and probably kill you 211 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.879 in order to get her. And I know that a 212 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.960 lot of you are going to be like Natasha. You 213 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.759 thought she wanted to bang him. You were so wrong. 214 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:46.200 She just was looking at him because he was crazy. 215 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.039 And I stand by what I said, and I think 216 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.720 she still wants to bang him. And I will not 217 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:57.320 be taking questions at this time, so we'll get there eventually. 218 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:04.879 So we find out that it is a character named Remix, 219 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:11.519 a bereft minion of miss Quill who has been brought 220 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:18.000 back to life and he has basically been turned into 221 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:25.039 this weird like middleman between life and death where he 222 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.399 holds a bunch of power and then it gets leached 223 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:35.039 off of him by miss Quill. But because now she's dead, 224 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.759 that's not going to happen. And I really I don't 225 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.559 know if it's just that more power gets poured into 226 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.799 him until he just like fractures or exactly what would 227 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:54.720 happen to him and the whole Like I, So, let's see, 228 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.159 there's a soul crystal here, which function very similar to 229 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:03.240 soul gems in Skyrim. It's very funny, guys, because, like 230 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:08.559 I've mentioned before, how little I have, how a little 231 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:13.039 experience I have in gaming, and that the only games 232 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:17.360 that I've really played a lot are like Skyrim, Breath 233 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:21.919 of the Wild and Animal Crossing, And now I've gotten 234 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.399 some hours under my belt playing Stardi Valley, and I 235 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.279 really didn't think that was going to come in handy 236 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:29.399 too much. But like, there is a lot of Skyrim 237 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.240 references in this so far, and it may just be 238 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:38.039 this particular level is like particularly Skyrim inspired, and so 239 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.360 the next level it won't have as many references potentially, 240 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.080 But it just did catch me off guard because I 241 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.639 thought that there would be a lot of things that 242 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.919 didn't feel familiar at all, and instead I keep going, oh, 243 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.159 like Sky, Oh, like Skyrim. Oh, another thing like Skyrim. 244 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.720 So and maybe it's just something that's very easy to 245 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:59.600 reference because it is super popular and you know, people 246 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:02.919 are gonna get it. And I'm certain too that there's 247 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.119 lots and lots of references to things that are not 248 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.720 anything I've played, and they simply just go over my 249 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.759 head because I am not familiar with them, so I 250 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.839 would think of them as original ideas when maybe they're not. 251 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.119 But if you guys have anything like that, we run 252 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.759 across while I'm covering stuff that you're like, oh, this 253 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:25.000 is like such and such from you know, Soul Caliber 254 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:29.160 or Final Fantasy or something I am interested to know, 255 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.559 I would just want to, you know, just a little detail. 256 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:34.160 I think that kind of adds a little flavor to things. 257 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.759 I'm sorry. In the chat, Saraham says I didn't have 258 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:41.680 a single thought of Heckla wanting him at the time, 259 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:46.039 but I totally see it. And Michael's here, Hey, Michael, 260 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.480 our zoo says you can think someone's crazy while you 261 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.359 also want to bang them. The two things are not 262 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:56.400 mutually exclusive. A men are a zoo. Yes, indeedy that 263 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.400 is fine, Michael says, God life would be my easier. 264 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.160 I of knowing someone was potentially bad news removed all attraction. 265 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:08.599 That's a word, Michael. Yeah, it's really annoying. I won't 266 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.240 say that I'm potentially more attracted because somebody is bad 267 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.359 news exactly. It's not that because they are bad news. 268 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.599 It's often like the type of bad news they are. 269 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.359 Like if they're a dude who tends to get a 270 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:27.720 little too agro about defending other people, I know that's 271 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.039 not a great thing, but I also can't help but 272 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.200 be like, this man is very protective and that is 273 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.559 extremely attractive, which oftentimes turns into them being real controlling 274 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.039 and like. It's not a good thing ultimately, but it 275 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:43.880 can be easily mistaken for something that seems appealing, you know, 276 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:48.440 Seraphim says, I think it's more. Skyrim is such a 277 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.640 major archetype of the genre that all sorts of things 278 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.319 that are common to open world RPGs are easy to 279 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.960 relate to it, which is fair, Rob sad. Skyrim is 280 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:58.440 such a perfect milange of all its inspirations. It's one 281 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:00.200 of the best games to give you a good example 282 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:05.319 of modern gaming. Okay, okay, that makes sense. Actually, guys, 283 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.759 are they doing a new Skyrim anytime soon? Because, like 284 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:12.440 I going back, the story in Skyrim is not good. 285 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.039 Just to be frank, guys, it's just not a compelling story, 286 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:23.640 but the actual aesthetic of the game is so incredibly gorgeous. 287 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:30.039 I am very very frequently playing Skyrim Ambiance YouTube videos 288 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.640 where it's just like the music from the game paired 289 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.599 with scenes of the fall foliage in deer Haven or 290 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.400 whatever the fuck the towns are. Like, can somebody just 291 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:46.240 like make that game look a little bit more modern 292 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:51.079 and add a story that we care about. That'd be cool, 293 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.359 because there's like Elden Ring, which is also gorgeous, but 294 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:01.039 also littered with the most hideous creatures alive. Like they 295 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:05.759 are so ugly. They've made the monsters so repellent that 296 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.039 it's hard for me to call that game as beautiful 297 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.680 as Skyrim, even though it is when you take just 298 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:16.039 the like landscape or the different sets and you know, 299 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:20.680 but then the monsters are just really hideous, So it's yeah. 300 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.480 And it's also just like I will never play aled 301 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.400 In Ring because you can't pause, So just that's absolutely 302 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.599 not going to have it for me. Michael says Fallout 303 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:34.640 New Vegas might be worth looking into. I have my 304 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:39.240 husband is obsessed with Fallout, and it's not for me. 305 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:44.599 There's too much rusting technology in it. I like that 306 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:52.359 classic like ruins of Celtic, you know, or churches and 307 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:58.000 whatnot in Skyrim. But and Rob says, I think reference 308 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.000 why I was having an appreciation for dungeons and dragons 309 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.680 is probably the other super helpful thing I have, like 310 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:05.599 a general knowledge, not super deep. I've played it a 311 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.079 few times. But okay, I gotta get back on track 312 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.519 because I have so much to get through here. So guys, 313 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:16.000 this creature, I feel so sorry for him. He says 314 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.880 something at one point about the girls that are brought over, 315 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.599 and he says, I could see it in their eyes. 316 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.960 Some of them were tenors like me. Don't be undead. 317 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:32.640 They say, don't be undead. So what we're hearing is 318 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.480 that literally every single person who made a deal to 319 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:41.799 get out of the game at a certain floor, all 320 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:46.359 of them advise waiting until the next floor because getting 321 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:51.839 out early isn't worth it. And I think that is 322 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:58.000 also just a metaphor for how every time you think 323 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.240 you're going to be somewhere safe and get a deal 324 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.119 that works for you, it turns out not actually be true, 325 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.000 and you were going to be sacrificing something of yourself 326 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.119 in a way that you could never have predicted. I'm 327 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:16.920 still very curious about Mordecai's whole situation, you know, and 328 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:21.880 this dude, it turns out that he has to tell 329 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.799 the story of what happened to get him here, and 330 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.640 that nobody has like allowed him to tell it before, 331 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.720 but if he gets somebody to let him say it, 332 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:35.839 he will be done with this assignment, which is he 333 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:37.559 doesn't explicitly say that. He just says, all I had 334 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.000 to do is tell the story and I would be done. 335 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.960 And that's how I'm taking it. I don't know if 336 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:46.200 it's just like they know that everybody's going to kill 337 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.759 this guy the moment that they meet him, and so 338 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:53.839 they gave him an assignment that they knew was going 339 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.720 to be particularly difficult for him to fulfill, and out 340 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.680 of either spite or just because they want to hold 341 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.480 on to him as long as they can, or if 342 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:09.079 there was something personal going on here or what. So 343 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:13.359 he starts he's like really focused on telling this story 344 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:18.559 but needing to stick to a script, and he talks 345 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.519 about Featherfall not liking the guards and how he wanted 346 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.559 more control over them. He asked me what must be done, 347 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.960 and I said that they must. One must know what 348 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.680 they are, how they are animated, how they came to be. 349 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:36.240 Don't ask about that. That's not important. It's a tangent. 350 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:41.039 We have to avoid tangents. And I'm like dying because 351 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:44.160 I believe you, like I do believe that he is 352 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.920 trying really hard to stay on the thing. But also 353 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:49.920 now I want to know Featherfall was short sighted. He 354 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.880 had no ambition other than his power over this small town. 355 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.559 Skyfowl ruled this world. Did you know that before that 356 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.000 demon destroyed it all? I like to think of it 357 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:01.960 as a metaphor. I'm say the primals. No, I can't. 358 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:07.599 That's off script. Sorry, Sorry, this kind of storytelling continues. 359 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.240 I think the audiobook narrator really does a good job 360 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:15.599 of somebody who's trying to piece their thoughts together as 361 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:20.599 he's telling the story. Donut tells Carl our views are skyrocketing. 362 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.920 Something's going on, and eventually we find out that this 363 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.440 guy is like an old player that was quite famous, 364 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:29.960 and so people are tuning in because their story is 365 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:39.799 overlapping with somebody who's already notorious. And let's see, after 366 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:44.160 I passed, Featherfall approached my wife, miss Quill. But I 367 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.759 don't know why they added the miss He asked her 368 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:50.160 to help him cast the spell. Wait, so miss Quill 369 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.160 knew you'd be ripped from death and turned into this 370 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.960 And she was okay with that. Oh, yes, she's not really. No, 371 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:58.960 I can't say that. I was assuming that this was 372 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.920 going to be. She's not really my wife, Like we 373 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.720 didn't actually like each other. We were made into a 374 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.759 couple for the game, you know, like this is That's 375 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.160 what I'm assuming. She also knew Featherfall was making a 376 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.720 grave error by casting the spell too close to the amplifier. 377 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.440 The roof is the antenna. The soul crystal store is 378 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.599 the power. She'd been planning it all along. I was 379 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.599 damned the moment I became her husband, I was now 380 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:29.119 a capacitor. She pretended as if the magistrate was still 381 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.519 alive and took up the duties of running the settlement, 382 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.720 and Mordecay tunes in and is like, you guys got 383 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.759 to wrap this up because time's starting to run out. 384 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:42.039 And this is when he says about the women that 385 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.920 she first he gets into. She tricked all of the 386 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:49.440 elves by pretending to be an angel. She never liked 387 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.960 getting her hands dirty, so she used avatars for intimidation 388 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.119 corpse removal. My avatars one looked like my son, my 389 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.559 boy lost in time, but they couldn't move from here, 390 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.440 and I was wondering, here, is it his son really 391 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.759 like his son before this game and that's what it 392 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:12.559 looks like. Or is it his son in the story? Yeah? 393 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.799 Here it is. They were like me a tenor don't 394 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.200 get undead? They told us, don't get undead, it's not 395 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:26.079 worth it. Wait ignore that, Yeah, don't ignore that. Why 396 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.720 did she bring the women? For two reasons? My wife 397 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.079 had grand plans, but she needed help that couldn't be 398 00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:35.119 accomplished by the city elves. The crafts, who are easy 399 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.920 to control, easy to make the act of generating them 400 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.240 creates a powerful spike of soul power, adding to my energy. 401 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.359