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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be talking this week about social Security benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this is one that always gets a

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the program. Speaking of the closs Quiz question week,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get rolling on this week's conversation, let's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the question and answer there as well. Eric, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the program. Let's take a look back actually

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks Sean, we had a great show last week.

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<v Speaker 2>In our congratulations first of all to our winner, who

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<v Speaker 3>With your thirty one thousand dollars in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>class financial dot com. So today we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Social Security benefits in the various ages folks may

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<v Speaker 1>become eligible to receive certain benefits and CJ. What do

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first off, I hope you can hear me.

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<v Speaker 5>So to begin our discussion, I want to outline the

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<v Speaker 5>various types of social security benefits someone could become eligible

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<v Speaker 5>to receive throughout their lifetime. Now, for those who have

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that we've ever talked about on this show.

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<v Speaker 5>So for those who are interested in sociecurity benefits, whether

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<v Speaker 5>you're drawing it now or drawing in the future, this

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<v Speaker 5>various types of benefits that soci security provides, along with

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<v Speaker 5>But the various types of sociecurity benefits include the following

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<v Speaker 5>number one, retirement benefits. This is what most people think

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<v Speaker 5>retirement benefits, but believe it or not, Outside of retirement benefits,

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<v Speaker 5>there are the following other benefits, disability insurance benefits, survivor benefits,

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<v Speaker 5>family benefits, and supplemental Social Security income benefits. Now, according

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<v Speaker 5>to SOCI Security Administration, here are quick definitions of each

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<v Speaker 5>type of benefit, someone could become eligible to receive throughout

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<v Speaker 5>become eligible to receive any one of those five different

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<v Speaker 5>types of soci security benefits I just mentioned at different

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<v Speaker 5>points throughout your life. So let's define them first. The

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<v Speaker 5>soci security retirement benefit is a monthly check that replaces

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<v Speaker 5>your monthly expenses as you age. Again, everybody, these are

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<v Speaker 5>actually definitions right off the Soci Security website. So again,

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<v Speaker 5>that was just a definition for Social Security retirement benefits.

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<v Speaker 5>Now here's a definition for Social Security Disability Insurance benefits

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<v Speaker 5>also known as SSDI. Soci Security Disability benefits provides more

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<v Speaker 5>or limits their ability to work. The third type of

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<v Speaker 5>benefit is the Social Security survivor benefit, and that provides

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<v Speaker 5>monthly payments to eligible family members of people who worked

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<v Speaker 5>and paid Social Security taxes before they died. So again,

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<v Speaker 5>survivor benefit would be say I have a parent who

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<v Speaker 5>The fourth type of soci security benefit is Social Security

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<v Speaker 5>Family Benefit. This provides monthly payments to certain family members

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<v Speaker 5>of people who are eligible for retirement or disability benefits.

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<v Speaker 5>And finally, Social Security Supplemental Security Income Benefit known as

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<v Speaker 5>This is known as s SI provides monthly payments to

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<v Speaker 5>income or resources. So listen, everybody, here's the example of SSI.

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<v Speaker 5>What happens when somebody is born with a disability? Right,

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<v Speaker 5>There's no you know, no employer that's going to pay

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<v Speaker 5>So here's what I want everybody to realize. With those

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<v Speaker 5>and retirement. I believe we should all be proud of

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that we have a social security benefit. Now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying this is not a political statement, right,

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<v Speaker 4>It is rather just to say that as.

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<v Speaker 5>A as a developed society like ours, it is nice

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<v Speaker 5>to know that they're that there are these kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like five fallbacks for people as the age or become unhealthy,

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<v Speaker 5>or become disabled or born with a disability. Is nice

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<v Speaker 5>to know that we we have developed the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking this morning with CJ. Closs and Eric Schwartz, they

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<v Speaker 1>You alluded to and as folks kind of heard you

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<v Speaker 1>discuss those those five different different types of benefits, folks

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<v Speaker 1>could experience multiple, if not all of these in their lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right. So a couple things on this.

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<v Speaker 5>So we do understand that social Security can get a

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<v Speaker 5>bad reputation due to its funding problems or how politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Use it for political leverage.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, just just watch a couple of the

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<v Speaker 5>more recent debates in political land, and it's like social

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<v Speaker 5>Security is a big topic. However, as I mentioned, at

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<v Speaker 5>its core, social security is a modern financial marvel and

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<v Speaker 5>it positively impacts the lives of tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 5>Americans and it keeps countless more out of extreme poverty.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the key, right, it keeps countless more out of

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<v Speaker 5>extreme poverty. Now, I'm not saying there's not abuse in

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<v Speaker 5>the system. I'm not saying that politicians haven't managed it well,

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<v Speaker 5>that it doesn't have funding problems. Those are all true statements,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm not disagreeing with that. But at its core,

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<v Speaker 5>what a blessing to our American society that we have

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<v Speaker 5>found a way to try to provide minimum sustenments. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>with all of this being said, today, we will be

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<v Speaker 5>primarily focusing on social Security, retirement benefits and family benefits

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<v Speaker 5>for the remainder of our show. And the reason is

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<v Speaker 5>because these two categories, again, retirement benefits and family benefits

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<v Speaker 5>account for about sixty five percent of all Social Security

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<v Speaker 5>benefit recipients. So that is where the remainder of our

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk a little bit about I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big questions every time we talk SOS

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<v Speaker 1>security is the when, and we'll find out from Cjan Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do that and so much more. As Money

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<v Speaker 1>here on thirteen ten. WIBA talking this week Social Security

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<v Speaker 1>Closs and Eric Schwartz. Again, they are our retirement planning

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<v Speaker 1>professionals from Class Financial. Hope you've had a chance check

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<v Speaker 1>number six so eight four four two five six three seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking this week about social security and CJ laid out

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<v Speaker 1>rundown from CGEN those various types of social Security benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've got to think for most folks, Eric, they

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sean, That's that's pretty much what everybody wants to know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the most common question we get from from our clients,

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<v Speaker 2>from the general public. And I mean, unfortunately my answer

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<v Speaker 2>It is accurate, though it depends on a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just talk a little bit first here about where

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<v Speaker 2>deductions area, A portion of that is going to Social Security.

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<v Speaker 3>So six point two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Your employer also kicks in six point two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy six thousand, one hundred dollars per individual.

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<v Speaker 2>So we often hear folks that we talk to who

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<v Speaker 2>longer being being taken out. Now that changes when they

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<v Speaker 2>flip into the new year, obviously, and they start, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we start the clock over. But the funding mechanism for

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<v Speaker 3>Is is payroll taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>But more to your question here, let's let's talk a

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<v Speaker 2>remember there's a difference between when you can first take

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<v Speaker 2>to get some level of benefit.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you receive your full.

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security benefit, which is at your full retirement age. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's begin with a little bit of a background

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<v Speaker 2>here on what is meant by full retirement age so

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<v Speaker 2>accordinate to social security. If you were born between nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty three and nineteen fifty four, your full retirement age.

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<v Speaker 3>Is sixty six, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But for those born between nineteen fifty five and nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>Your full retirement's a little more complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sixty six plus some number of months based on

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<v Speaker 2>sixty that's all age sixty seven. So your full retirement age,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also known as your FRA, and you'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>us refer to that here throughout the show, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>agent which you become eligible to receive your full unreduced

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security benefit. Okay, So notice I said you're full

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<v Speaker 2>and unreduced social Security benefit. You are actually able to

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<v Speaker 2>collect as early as age sixty two, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people do.

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<v Speaker 3>You're able to collect as early as sety two. You

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<v Speaker 3>can also wait until you're seventy. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>A moment, but you know, really between sixty two and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy you can collect anywhere in there, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of down to the I think whole a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 2>think okay, I can take it at sixty two, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five and my full retirement age. Not true.

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<v Speaker 3>You can take it any month in between there, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security is actually going to you know, pro rate

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<v Speaker 2>your benefit so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>If let's say you take it at sixty two.

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<v Speaker 2>And six months, okay, so you'll get a larger benefit

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<v Speaker 2>than at sixty two, not quite as much as if

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<v Speaker 2>you wait until you wear your sixty Let's talk to

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<v Speaker 2>here a little bit about how much you actually received

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<v Speaker 2>as a benefit. This is a really really difficult calculation

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<v Speaker 2>and that try to recreate it on our own.

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<v Speaker 3>And it can be done, but it takes a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have a great resource available to us at

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<v Speaker 3>Create a profile for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see your earnings history, you can get an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what your actual benefits.

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<v Speaker 3>May be based on the age at which you start.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really really great tool, So encourage all listeners

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<v Speaker 2>to go out there and create a profile on SSA

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<v Speaker 2>dot gov so that you can you can get an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what your benefit might be. But talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the best time to collect okay, so again depends on

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<v Speaker 2>your situation. In most cases, it is generally advisable. You said,

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<v Speaker 2>generally advisable to wait at least until you've reached your

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<v Speaker 2>full retirement age to start collecting Social Security because the

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<v Speaker 2>monthly benefit is so much higher. Okay, So, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were born in nineteen fifty five and your full retirement

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<v Speaker 2>age is sixty six and two months, that is the

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<v Speaker 2>age at which you are able to collect your full

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<v Speaker 2>unreduced benefit. Now, what if you wait beyond your full

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<v Speaker 2>retirement age, because we do have.

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<v Speaker 3>People who do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're still working, they don't need income, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, it's part of their retirement income strategy

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<v Speaker 2>to push Social Security off until seventy. Okay, So the

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security benefits are increased if you wait after your

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<v Speaker 2>full retirement age any number of years up until seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>and depending on your data birth, you are getting what

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<v Speaker 2>are called delayed retirement credits, and that can allow your

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<v Speaker 2>benefit to increase up to eight percent per year until

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<v Speaker 2>you actually start taking benefits. Now, once you hit seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no more increases. So most people should not wait

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<v Speaker 2>beyond seventy to take their Social Security benefits. But even

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<v Speaker 2>if it means using some of you the income that

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<v Speaker 2>you've saved in your retirement account. For example, it can

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<v Speaker 2>still be worth it to put off that Social Security

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<v Speaker 2>until seventy. It's because you're getting a risk free eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent annual benefit increase. Now at Class Financial, we have

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent investment management team here. Great, they did great work,

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<v Speaker 2>but they will tell you that to have a guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent rate of recurry that is really, really really

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<v Speaker 2>hard to beat. Okay, So pushing it off till seventy

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<v Speaker 2>can be really really valuable if you have the assets

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<v Speaker 2>to create income in between there and last thing Sean

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<v Speaker 2>here before we go to the next question. Is I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this earlier, but you don't when you start taking

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<v Speaker 2>your Social Security benefits, you don't have to do it

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<v Speaker 2>like on your birthday each year. Depending on how old

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<v Speaker 2>you are, social Security either gives you a five ninths

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<v Speaker 2>of one percent or a five to twelfths of one

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<v Speaker 2>percent increase for each month that you wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you are getting credit for that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to underline here there's almost no reason to.

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<v Speaker 2>Not pull your retirement benefits once you've reached age seventy

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not getting any more of those to layed

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<v Speaker 2>retirement credits.

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<v Speaker 1>Really important information there. Eric Schwartz and CJ. Closs out

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<v Speaker 1>retirement planning professionals from Class Financial online Class Financial dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Coss k l aas Financial dot com. So CJ,

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<v Speaker 1>how is this your specific soci Security benefit? How is

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<v Speaker 1>that determined? And does that increase what's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>understanding there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good question.

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<v Speaker 5>First, you need to have enough credits to even qualify

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<v Speaker 5>to receive Social Security benefits. So for our listeners who

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<v Speaker 5>listen quite often, up till now, we've talked about a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of things you maybe haven't heard on social security.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's where we're going to get into some fun

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<v Speaker 5>these last two sections. We're going to talk about these

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<v Speaker 5>calculations and it's it's quite interesting, so stick with us. So,

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<v Speaker 5>as you work and pay taxes, you earn Social Security

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<v Speaker 5>that are credits.

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<v Speaker 4>They're known as credits.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty twenty five, you earn one credit for each

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<v Speaker 5>one eight and ten dollars in earnings, up to a

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<v Speaker 5>maximum of four credits per year. The amount of money

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<v Speaker 5>needed to earn one credit usually goes up every year,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, but most people need forty credits or

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<v Speaker 5>ten years of work to qualify for their own retirement benefit. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>notice I emphasize the word their own retirement benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>Harken back at the beginning of.

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<v Speaker 5>The show, we talked about there's actually five different benefits

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<v Speaker 5>that soci Security can pay. We're honing in on a

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<v Speaker 5>your own retirement benefit. You need at least forty credits

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<v Speaker 5>are about ten years worth of earnings to even qualify

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<v Speaker 5>for your own retirement benefit. Now, if you do not

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<v Speaker 5>have at least forty credits, you are not currently entitled

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<v Speaker 5>to a retirement benefit. Stop working before you have enough

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<v Speaker 5>credits to qualify for benefits.

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<v Speaker 4>Your credits will stay on your record.

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<v Speaker 5>If you then return to work later, more credits will

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<v Speaker 5>be added. So again, you can go to the SSA

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<v Speaker 5>dot gov website and read their publication how you Earn

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<v Speaker 5>Credits for more information. Now, assuming you have enough credits,

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<v Speaker 5>your Social Security uses a calculation based on your highest

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five year inflation adjusted average of covered wages.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's dig a little deeper on this. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 5>Every American begins with one hundred and forty credits or

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five years worth of zeros in their Social Security

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<v Speaker 5>retirement benefit calculator. Okay, so again, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>use thirty five years worth of inflation adjusted earnings or

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<v Speaker 5>paid wages into Social Security, those zeros start getting replaced

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<v Speaker 5>by wage is that are inflation adjusted to create a

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<v Speaker 5>present value purchasing.

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<v Speaker 4>Power for dollar for those dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>For purposes of determining the highest inflation adjusted figures over

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<v Speaker 5>the thirty five year working career. So some people will

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<v Speaker 5>say to us, Hey, I've worked for thirty years, but

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<v Speaker 5>my last final five years are going to be lower,

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<v Speaker 5>Eric and I go, no, You've still got five years

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<v Speaker 5>my retirement benefit, now I'm going to potentially have lower income. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you've already filled in the thirty five. Now interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 5>I will just tell you, guys, social Security has to

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<v Speaker 5>project your benefit. So sometimes at the very end, if

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<v Speaker 5>are less than what Social Security is anticipated you to have,

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<v Speaker 5>then yes, their projection would be wrong. So listen, we're

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<v Speaker 5>project your benefit. What I would encourage you to do

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<v Speaker 5>inconsistent future income as you get closer to retirement, or

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<v Speaker 5>lower than expected income for your final five years of work,

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<v Speaker 5>I would just sit down with a good qualified advisor

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<v Speaker 5>or somebody soci security specialist to say, hey, can you

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<v Speaker 5>run a custom calculation instead of me just relying on

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<v Speaker 5>the default provisions of the Social Security projection, can we

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<v Speaker 5>run a custom now. Consequently, if someone works less than

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five years or one hundred and forty credits of

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<v Speaker 5>Social Security covered wages over their lifetime, then as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>they will still have those zeros. They work more than

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five or one hundred and forty one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>forty credits of Social Security, then they will simply remove

438
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<v Speaker 5>the lowest inflation adjusted dollars within that formula. So everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>when I say inflation adjusted dollars, here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>Our brains are not taught to think in inflation adjusted dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>So often we'll say, well, when I, you know, first

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<v Speaker 5>started working, I only made fifteen thousand dollars and I

444
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<v Speaker 5>had to walk uphill barefoot. You know the whole story, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Here's the problem. That fifteen thousand dollars forty years ago

446
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<v Speaker 5>is the equivalent of seventy thousand dollars now, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>so Social Security knows that, and the inflation adjusts those

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<v Speaker 5>prior earnings to bring it forward. So when someone wants

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<v Speaker 5>to draw retirement benefits, here's where it gets fun. A

450
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<v Speaker 5>calculation is performed to create what's called an average indexed

451
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<v Speaker 5>monthly earnings known as AIM for short, that's a new point.

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<v Speaker 5>Your inflation adjusted earnings from your highest thirty five years

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<v Speaker 5>are added together, and then the total is divided by

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<v Speaker 5>four hundred and twenty that's the number of months in

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<v Speaker 5>the thirty five years to get your AIM. A formula

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<v Speaker 5>LA is then applied to your AIM to calculate your

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<v Speaker 5>primary insurance amount, also known as your PIA, or the

458
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<v Speaker 5>amount you would receive at your full retirement age. The

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<v Speaker 5>formula applied to your aim to your average indexed monthly

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<v Speaker 5>earnings to create your PIA primary insurance amount is as follows.

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<v Speaker 5>You get ninety percent of the first one two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty six dollars of your aim, You get thirty

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<v Speaker 5>two percent of the amount over one two hundred and

464
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<v Speaker 5>twenty six up to seven thy three hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 5>one dollars of your aim, and you only get fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>percent of any amounts over seven three hundred and ninety

467
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<v Speaker 5>one dollars of your aim. Listen, your head should be

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<v Speaker 5>spinning right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, should go what what what?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What?

471
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<v Speaker 4>What? What's happening here?

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<v Speaker 5>These are known as social security bend points. Boy, we're

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<v Speaker 5>getting into the weeds. These bend points. You need to

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<v Speaker 5>know social care already is what a social program. It

475
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<v Speaker 5>is designed to provide a backstop, a backstop socially. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 5>the calculation provides the largest benefits to the lowest aim

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<v Speaker 5>calculations aka the lowest income earners. It provides a lower

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<v Speaker 5>benefit to the highest income earners because when you run

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<v Speaker 5>that aim calculation, they then apply the ninety thirty two fifteen,

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<v Speaker 5>And as you can already see, your top dollars are

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<v Speaker 5>only getting a fifteen percent return on them when it

482
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<v Speaker 5>comes to that aim calculation, your first dollars were getting

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<v Speaker 5>a ninety percent, right. So what you need to know

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<v Speaker 5>is that while this is complicated, you just need to

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<v Speaker 5>understand Social Security was designed to be a social program

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<v Speaker 5>that provides a backstop to people. Therefore, do not think

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<v Speaker 5>that you are getting a linear benefit replacement up to

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<v Speaker 5>that up to that income cap we were talking about

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<v Speaker 5>that Eric was talking about earlier, You're not. If you

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<v Speaker 5>were hitting those income caps and paying in all that

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<v Speaker 5>Social Security, the amount of money you get back in

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<v Speaker 5>retirement is much lower than if you had earned just

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<v Speaker 5>fifty thousand dollars per year. So I know this is

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<v Speaker 5>getting really complicated. I don't want to freak people out

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<v Speaker 5>on this, but I would just really encourage you to

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<v Speaker 5>understand this aim calculation, and just for a reference point

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<v Speaker 5>so people understand one other element. There's also known as

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<v Speaker 5>a cost of living adjustments. So people often confuse this.

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<v Speaker 5>They say, guys, I heard that you said my Social

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<v Speaker 5>Security benefit if I wait, can grow by seven or

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<v Speaker 5>eight percent a year that's good. That's good. But then

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<v Speaker 5>one of my friends just said that Social Security grew

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<v Speaker 5>by two point five.

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<v Speaker 4>Percent, So like you, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, listen, if you're not drawing your benefit, your benefit

506
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<v Speaker 5>can grow for delayed withdrawal, but if you are already drawing,

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<v Speaker 5>then they want to try to keep your purchasing power

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<v Speaker 5>up with inflation. And so even after you've drawn, there

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<v Speaker 5>will be annual inflation adjusts months if there is inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>So boil boy, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure everybody's heads are spinning in the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>spinning around, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully this is helpful. You can reach out to us

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<v Speaker 4>with any questions ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Have, Bendpoint and Aim. I don't think we've touched on either.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very fascinating stuff. This week, as always, talk with CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Closs and Eric Schwartz, our retirement planning professionals from class

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<v Speaker 1>financial website COSS Financial dot com. That's Coss k l

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<v Speaker 1>a A S Financial dot com. We'll take it down

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<v Speaker 1>the home stretch next as Money in Motion continues right

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<v Speaker 1>here on thirteen ten WIBA talking with CJ. Closs and

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Schwartz. They are our retirement planning professionals. From class

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<v Speaker 1>Financial Online Cossfinancial dot com and they're telephone number six.

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<v Speaker 1>So eight four four two five six three seven just

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<v Speaker 1>moments away from the class quiz question week Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, though, real quick, we've got a good

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<v Speaker 1>question involving figuring out the best age and this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those areas too. I know that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people wonder, and there's a little bit more that

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<v Speaker 1>goes into it. So how can you kind of figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the best age to start your benefits? And if

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<v Speaker 1>you start collecting earlier, what kind of reduction are we

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<v Speaker 1>then looking at there?

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<v Speaker 2>Great question, John, But first I have to blame you

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<v Speaker 2>for the fact that we're talking about ben points and

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<v Speaker 2>aims today because you made the mistake of telling CJ

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<v Speaker 2>how much you've learned from the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have the.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly Thank you. It's not my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's let's get to the answer to your question here.

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<v Speaker 2>So if figuring out when when to start collecting your benefits,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm going to say, it depends it's

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<v Speaker 2>ingrained in me.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't I can't help it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what are some of the things we want to

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<v Speaker 2>consider when we're thinking about when to start benefits, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know things like your income sources. When you retire,

548
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<v Speaker 2>you have a pension, are you going to be working

549
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<v Speaker 2>part time? Would you receive spousal Social Security benefits? And

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<v Speaker 2>then at the same time, we want to think about

551
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<v Speaker 2>things like do you still have debt? Do you have

552
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<v Speaker 2>a mortgage and auto loan that you're paying off? So

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<v Speaker 2>these are some really important topics when we're we're thinking

554
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<v Speaker 2>about when to start benefits. But we also have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about life expectancy, right because security is a benefit

556
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<v Speaker 2>that play that pays while you are alive, but it

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<v Speaker 2>obviously ends at depth, you know, different from like a

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<v Speaker 2>pension for example, that may have some sort of joint

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<v Speaker 2>life benefit.

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<v Speaker 3>So none of us knows how long we're going to live.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, if we did, we could we could make this

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<v Speaker 2>social security calculation pretty exact. That's where it becomes a

563
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<v Speaker 2>little bit more of an art than a science. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said earlier, a lot of people, you know, say

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<v Speaker 2>they have a If somebody has a health issue, they

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<v Speaker 2>may say, I'm going to start earlier because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going to be living long enough to make

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<v Speaker 2>up what I what I left behind by by waiting

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<v Speaker 2>and other people may have longevity, longevity in their family

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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, I'm going to wait till seventy get

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<v Speaker 2>the largest benefit, and you know, that's how I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get the largest benefit out of Social Security. But

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of when you decide to take it, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>look really quickly here at you know what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reduction you get for taking it early. So let's say

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<v Speaker 2>that your full retirement age is sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>In two months.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're in that kind of odd ten year stretch

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<v Speaker 2>where where it's sixty six in some months. In this case,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sixty six and two months. That's your full retirement age.

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<v Speaker 2>If you draw at sixty two, you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy four point two percent of your monthly benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're losing, you know, a little over twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>If you waited until you were sixty five, you receive

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<v Speaker 2>around ninety a little more than ninety two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>your full benefit. Okay, so these are the really tough calculation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not we're not going to get exact. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>where again your access on SSA dot gov is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really really.

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<v Speaker 1>Helpful, great great stuff this week, and you mentioned that website,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know there's a little bit of information to there,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric that you wanted to add.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the last last piece here. I even though

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<v Speaker 2>we know that benefits go up the longer we wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Social Secure any data from a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>tells us that the average age that people start benefits

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<v Speaker 2>is sixty five, which is not all that surprising. This

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<v Speaker 2>generally when people are getting on Medicare and dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>the Social Security administration anyway, so they tend to get

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<v Speaker 2>started them.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking this morning with Eric Schwartz and CJ. Closs, our

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<v Speaker 1>retirement funding professionals from Class Financial website class Financial dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>There telephone number six oh eight four four two five,

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<v Speaker 1>six three seven. Want to hold on to that telephone umber,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's time not for the class quiz question in

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<v Speaker 1>the week. It works like this just a moment, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask you the class quiz question the week. You will

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<v Speaker 1>then have thirty minutes from the today's program to call

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<v Speaker 1>the Class Financial office right here in Madison at six

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<v Speaker 1>oh eight four four two five six three seven. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are the first call correct answer when this week's prize,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a twenty five dollars gift card to pet Smart.

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<v Speaker 1>This week's Class Quiz question week is this true or false?

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<v Speaker 1>Your full retirement age, known as your FRA, is the

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<v Speaker 1>age at which you become eligible to receive your full

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<v Speaker 1>unreduced Social Security retirement benefit. True or false? Telphone number

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<v Speaker 1>six O eight four four two five six three seven. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cross financial office right here in Madison in their

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<v Speaker 1>website class financial dot com. CJ. Eric, It's always great

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<v Speaker 1>chatting you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a great day, Thanks Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks take care guys. Doctor Greer joins us in sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds here on thirteen ten w I b I
