WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:13.720 Ready, get ready. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:16.640 For May twenty one of twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:19.239 Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, This 4 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:23.559 Theocelli effect. You listening and thank you for it. Anyway, boy, 5 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.640 the month of May has gone by quickly. I mean, 6 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:30.839 it just seems like yesterday was May Day. Anyway, I 7 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:33.880 have Larry Hancock with me Larry dash Hancock dot com. 8 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.479 Of course, he's going to be authoring an upcoming article. 9 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.960 I just had one minor thing that I wanted him 10 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.719 to maybe, you know, touch up on, and we'll get 11 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.759 that probably next week. So you will see an article 12 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.399 on the Weekly Reader at Ochelli dot com. But also 13 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:50.960 you can check out Larry's blog at Larrydshancock dot com. 14 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.039 Oh and a highly recommended set of books out there, 15 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.280 including the most recent one, which is The Oswald Puzzle. 16 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.159 But we'll be telling talking more about that as we 17 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:05.000 get closer to Lancer time, I'm sure. And oh, by 18 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:09.079 the way, spoiler alert, we will be talking UAPs sometime 19 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.959 in the next couple of weeks. But today, Larry, first 20 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:16.400 of all, I know it's not gonna be UAP discussion tonight. 21 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.719 We're going to discuss other things that might be otherwise unidentified, 22 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:27.640 but they're not a real phenomena anyway. 23 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.200 I don't know. Was that a bad joke? Probably? Larry, 24 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:31.040 How are you doing tonight? 25 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:33.439 I'm doing good. Check as you say. 26 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.959 It just seems like the month just started. I think definitely, 27 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.840 time is ahead of me. I just can't keep up 28 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:41.159 with it. 29 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.799 Yeah, so three weeks into the month already, I mean, 30 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:45.480 doesn't that I don't know. 31 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.920 It just doesn't feel right right. It's like, where did 32 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:48.480 the time go? 33 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:49.920 You know? 34 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.680 They say that as we get older that happens, but man, 35 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.799 sometimes months just vanish on me. 36 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:55.280 I don't know. 37 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.200 What I can't really understand is time is supposed to 38 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:03.239 slow down as you go faster, so I generally think 39 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:05.519 I'm going slower and that's not happening. 40 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:07.599 It's something's out of saint. 41 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.759 But otherwise otherwise I'm fine. It just does never seems 42 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:12.599 to be enough time. 43 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:14.319 Who knows time dilation? 44 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.199 Maybe again, we'll have to talk about that when we 45 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.159 get to some UAP stuff. But this week there were 46 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:26.039 some well new hearings right on the JFK declassifications, et cetera. 47 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:31.599 Were they new hearings on declassifications? Well, in part, Doug 48 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.879 Horn was there, Dan Hardaway was there. I was a 49 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:37.639 little surprised to see Doug Horn there. Actually, of course 50 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:40.280 he made his you know, very standard remarks about the 51 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:41.879 things that he would even if he wanted to talk 52 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.719 about World War two, he would mention exactly what he 53 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:48.960 mentioned during his JFK comments before Congress, So very much 54 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:49.719 in character there. 55 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:51.800 Judge Tunheim there, and as a. 56 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.719 Matter of fact, I want to play a little audio 57 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.759 because maybe you want to talk about the doctor a bit. 58 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:02.000 Yet again, one of the medical wits this is in part, 59 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.840 you know, always going to be dissected and vivisected in 60 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.520 one way or another when a living witness comes forward 61 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.039 in any way, shape or form. 62 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:10.960 Oh and Abraham Bolden was. 63 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:16.919 There as well, although there were audio difficulties during his testimony, 64 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.479 but I think some of that stuff got on the 65 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.159 record anyway. And there were also other remarks that weren't 66 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.280 broadcast or even read out that were put into the 67 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:32.560 Congressional record. So that took place only what two days ago, now, right, 68 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:34.840 Larry Gosh, I. 69 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:40.360 Was yeah, two days like yesterday, you know, yes, it's 70 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.919 this is is still real news. People are still listening to, 71 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.599 you know, copies of recordings of the thing. It's still 72 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:52.879 a lively discussion. I think for one intent, the second 73 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.879 hearing was much different than the first, when in some 74 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.960 ways this, the hearing that we just had, is probab 75 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:05.360 probably more on target for what this this committee hearing 76 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:08.199 is all about. One of the things this kind of 77 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.319 like we always do in setting the context. 78 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:15.680 You know, Representative Lena really has two charters. Uh. 79 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:20.360 One of her charters is under the President's Transparency Initiative, 80 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.360 which is to force it out documents and materials and 81 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.279 get them on the record that haven't been available to 82 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.399 the public. You know, that's one agenda, and then the 83 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.920 first the first hearing dealt with that to a large extent. 84 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.839 But her committee, really, if you look at the title 85 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.720 of her or hearing or hearing here is is an 86 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.879 oversight a government oversight committee. 87 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.680 It's kind of like, did the government do its job correctly? 88 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.000 You know, did it screw up whatever? You know, really 89 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:53.079 two different things. 90 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.800 And that's why I think there are two hearings and 91 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:59.759 two sets of witnesses, and we can't confuse them, or 92 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:04.199 we shouldn't confuse them, because it creates the it creates 93 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.160 a misunderstanding for what's really going on in the hearing 94 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.720 with these two different missions that she's both carrying out 95 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:11.279 in a way. 96 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.040 And the thing is, you know, we were dealing with 97 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:18.000 a very say, disruptive pattern break in kind of administration 98 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.399 for the most part, and a lot of executive orders 99 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.439 flying around. But in truth, the fact that the Oversight 100 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.160 Committee is dealing with this right now is probably proper 101 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:32.360 should have been done earlier, frankly, because look, you're talking 102 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.639 about okay, documentation collected starting in nineteen. 103 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.519 Sixty three, that's the earliest that could have started. 104 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:41.519 Then you have other investigations that took place in the sixties, 105 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:45.160 the seventies, even possibly the eighties, but maybe that's a 106 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.319 point of contention. You have the assassination records of view 107 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:53.199 Board and Executive Branch Office an executive branch not office 108 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:59.000 agency created in order to what gather up documentation from 109 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.759 all the other agencies and make it public, and then 110 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.040 a twenty five year delay on that, and then more delays. 111 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.240 So it is time for Oversight to get involved and say, hey, 112 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.720 did we follow the law, did we do what we 113 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.160 were supposed to? Is this the job well done or not? 114 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.600 And how are you going to examine that? Unless you're 115 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:21.560 semi familiar with the material. For the most part, both 116 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.800 of these hearings reveal many committee members not familiar with 117 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:30.040 the material, really making political points, etc. But this time 118 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.759 when you have a really interesting mix bag here again 119 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.800 everyone from Abraham Bolden to Judge Tunheim in a very 120 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.439 interesting mix and yet again another guy there to complain 121 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:44.680 about the bad release of Social Security numbers and stuff, which, 122 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:46.439 by the way, I'm fed up with. I don't know 123 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.399 why that's got to be a concession to somebody who 124 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:50.560 wants to complain about. 125 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.120 The Trump administration's behavior here. 126 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:56.439 But realistically, come on already, all right, that is such 127 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.000 a minor issue when it comes to all this mess 128 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.759 that they created for themselves in my opinion. Anyway, enough 129 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.439 of my opinions, let's listen to mister Garcia, you know, 130 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.040 kind of like finish the questioning with Judge Tunheim and 131 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:15.120 then begin the questioning with the doctor witness, yet another 132 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:21.720 doctor of sorts. Various residents, student, doctors, nurses over the 133 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.639 years from Parkland Hospital have said many things. Curious choice 134 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.720 for this guy to be on the committee. Maybe I'll 135 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:29.680 ask you about that after we get a few words 136 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.480 from him. But first let's listen to Tunheim and Representative 137 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.839 Garcia go back and forth here for just a moment 138 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.000 before we get to the doctor's statement. 139 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.600 Similar to what I to I asked, miss Co, do 140 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.199 you think that this release of the records that just 141 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.879 happened has added any substantial new information to what we 142 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:51.360 already know? 143 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.839 You know, I think any release of records gives you more, 144 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.480 more color, more pieces of the puzzle. So does and 145 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.279 I think this has been very interesting. I haven't a 146 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.079 chance to look through a lot of the materials, but 147 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.639 a lot of the materials that have reactions in were 148 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.480 materials we never saw, so they weren't shown to us before. 149 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.839 So I think that is significant that there are documents 150 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.959 being released there. I don't see any answers, any new 151 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.360 answers to any of the old questions here, but it's 152 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.120 filling out the record more. And I'd like to see 153 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:29.040 a time when everything has been released unredacted. It's sixty 154 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:34.320 some years since the assassination. It's the assassination was closer 155 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.240 to World War One than we are to the assassination. 156 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.240 Let's release the materials. And that's my plea here is 157 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.480 just get everything out. Let people decide what they want. 158 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.960 Well think, so now really quickly, Larry, I interrupt this 159 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.720 because Tuneim has just given us context, a advocate point 160 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:58.279 of view about transparency, and rather concisely, and just a 161 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:02.120 few moments there, pivoting away from the question a little bit. 162 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:05.240 But I was pretty satisfied with that. 163 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.399 Conclusion to two Nime's testimony, like, yeah, that's about where 164 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:10.000 I'm at with it. 165 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.240 And indeed, let's put that context there. 166 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.639 We're now closer to uh, you know, it was closer 167 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.360 to World War One when this happened than we are 168 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:19.919 to the assassination today. 169 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.519 Interesting, I think, but you know, anyway. 170 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.879 Back back to it, we'll hear the progression into the 171 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:29.960 doctor's comments, and then i'd like to get your thoughts 172 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:30.440 on all this. 173 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:32.360 With a heel back. 174 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:38.279 Thinking, Rep Garcia, the chair would now like to recognize, 175 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.759 mister Birchett, that's misty. 176 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:41.840 Chair, Doctor Curtis. 177 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.600 What happened when the Warren Commission called you to testify 178 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:53.759 about what you knew about the JFK ones, Doctor Curtis, Yes, sir, 179 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:55.200 I'm sorry, I've got hearing aids. 180 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.000 Just don't worry about it, brother. What happened when the 181 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:00.519 Warren commissioned. 182 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:04.320 Called you to testify about what you knew about JFK's ones. 183 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.120 Okay, that's Representative Burchett. By the way, b U R 184 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:09.200 C H E T T. 185 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.519 I think I'm pronouncing that correctly, which is also curious 186 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.600 because he's got supprud or frames behind him up on 187 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:20.759 some interesting display boards. But anyway, let's hear the doctors 188 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:22.919 at least opening that's the first question they asked him. 189 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:31.759 Apparently, Well, the one commission that hasn't called me to 190 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:38.480 testify at all, not at all. Okay, the uh I 191 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.320 didn't use up all my time, and I like to 192 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:44.480 make some additional comments regarding sir. 193 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.320 You have the time that you need, so please proceed. 194 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:48.200 Okay. 195 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.600 Yeah, because his opening statement, he apparently didn't get everything 196 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:53.879 out he wanted to get out there. So this is 197 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.360 where the commentary begins. But first off, he's got a 198 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.799 correct the same guy who seems to have an interest. 199 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.200 But what did you say before the ward commission? I 200 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.960 wasn't actually called before the ward commission. A little reminiscent, 201 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.559 but not quite as bad as you wrote a book, 202 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:12.480 mister Stone, and she had the wrong mister Stone. 203 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:16.639 But that was the previous hearing anyway, Well, let me 204 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:17.639 know when I can do it. 205 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.799 Well, now, sir, I believe mister Burchette has a line 206 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:23.399 of questions for you, so you're free to talk to 207 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:24.039 mister Burchett. 208 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:32.240 Yes, sir, can you explain what condition when President Kennedy 209 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:33.960 arrived in the emergency room? 210 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.799 What was his condition at that point? 211 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:37.360 He had already died? 212 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.000 Okay, how many wounds did you observe on President Kennedy? 213 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.840 How many wounds? President Kennedy had a wound to of course, 214 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.639 the big wound to his head, right, but he also 215 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.840 had a wound to his throat. And I've got a 216 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:55.320 little diagram here I can point out out how that 217 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:56.279 worked if you'd let me to. 218 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.480 And that wouldn't have been a single bullet wound though, 219 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.559 right they talk about this magical bullet that traveled. 220 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.000 That would have been more than one bullet. 221 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:06.799 You think that magic bullet was not It didn't strike 222 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:07.879 the president at all. 223 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:09.840 Okay, that was a clean bullet. 224 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:15.399 I saw the picture given, Do what what. 225 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:17.720 Play? 226 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:18.919 Show the diagram? 227 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:27.120 Okay, the bullets that were fired. The blue bullet is 228 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:31.440 the bar. It was the bullet that arrived first, and 229 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:36.120 you can see it started from probably from the railroad 230 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:40.279 trestle which is to the southwest, and came up and 231 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.720 first struck President Kennedy before he got out from under 232 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:51.279 the tree. That prevented the window shooter from shooting then. 233 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:56.639 And we know that because the Zapruder film showed the 234 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:03.399 President Kennedy holding his throat real distress when the separator 235 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:04.399 film started. 236 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.240 Okay, the reason why I'm playing all this And by 237 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.759 the way, now he's got an aerial shot of Dally 238 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:14.480 Plaza behind him with colored diagrams about trajectories of bullets 239 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:20.159 and all these things. This kind of gets into some 240 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:26.639 of the messiness that went on during this hearing, and 241 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.759 the messiness of both hearings actually, where it seems like 242 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.000 things were well planned out, but they weren't. You know, 243 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:36.320 like people were asking questions of the wrong people. They 244 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.720 had the wrong context for stuff. They're asking this guy, 245 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:40.600 what did you tell the Warren Commission? He wasn't called 246 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.039 before the Warren Commission. All you'd have to do is 247 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.080 go to the you know, go to a website somewhere 248 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.759 and you could find was he even a witness before 249 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.799 the Warren Commission? This guy anyway, I'm just saying Larry, 250 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.480 I think it's emblematic of what went on during a 251 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.480 lot of the hearings. If you add in the political 252 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.960 grandstand from one side or the other. Well, I want 253 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.960 to make the Trump administration look bad. Well, I want 254 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.080 to make the Democrats look stupid here, And you put 255 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.080 that aside, and you put it the chaos aside. What 256 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.200 do we actually boil this all down to, Larry in 257 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.559 your mind as far as you would represent it. 258 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:24.000 Yeah, I think the focus what you obviously have is 259 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.159 a lack of focus and and and that it makes 260 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.159 sense in some extense because you have, you know, you 261 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.399 have different members with different views, with different political agendas, 262 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:40.480 with obviously radically different knowledge of this incident and event. 263 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:43.159 You know, and it's it turns into a free for all. 264 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:49.639 And that's it is neither an investigation, right, because you 265 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:54.120 don't have people that as you would in a jury. 266 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.600 Process, much less. 267 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:00.399 A criminal investigation, who've prepped themselves, who you know the 268 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:05.000 background in detail. Look at ton time as much as 269 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.360 I like Tonne in you know, he's talking about well 270 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.799 we didn't see this or that. 271 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:11.600 Well he hasn't looked at. 272 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.279 It since the ARRB releases, and we know the majority 273 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.919 of what we see today they didn't see and that 274 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.039 is a problem, But it doesn't mean that we haven't 275 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.600 seen it for twenty years now. So when you make 276 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.159 a comment like I think it should finally all be 277 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.000 released because I'm seeing new stuff, that just means you 278 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:31.960 didn't see it decades ago. 279 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:34.399 It's almost irrelevant. 280 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:36.639 Well, and you're so curious. 281 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.440 Thing that people need to keep in mind as they 282 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:40.639 look at this and if they're coming into this even 283 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.480 you know, with a let's just say they have a 284 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.759 passionate interest, but they don't have you know, the years 285 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.919 and years and years of reading through this stuff. You know, 286 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.000 they've read a couple of books, they understand the case basics, 287 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:56.480 all of that. Look, there is a lot to this 288 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:01.639 that I don't even blame the Congress people or other 289 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:05.759 people with lives outside of you know, the thousand of 290 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.799 us that are complete lunatics that know this stuff like 291 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:10.480 this right in and out. 292 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:12.279 And I do. 293 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.720 Think there's literally like a thousand people on the planet 294 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:18.240 that really know the material. Seriously, I think that's an 295 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:23.279 honest number. The people in Congress are not among them. 296 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.080 The people in the media are not among them. The 297 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.440 people so you know, here we go. You have people 298 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.440 that are not well informed on the minutia the details. 299 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:35.639 Like I said, they would have no idea whether this 300 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:37.240 guy was before the Warrant Commission. 301 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.519 They mix up the House Select Committee. They think the 302 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.440 ARRB was an investigation. 303 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.320 And meanwhile, they haven't even been through our one oh 304 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.759 one class on this right where we. 305 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.080 Went through the investigations. 306 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.320 They haven't even been that far into it to even 307 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:57.279 begin to identify what box to put these things in. 308 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.639 Even when they do see brand new document or they 309 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:05.440 see slightly less redacted documentation or oh, we never saw 310 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.519 that page of this before. They don't know what we 311 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:11.559 saw before, So how are they going to even know 312 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.920 what's new or what you know what I'm saying. 313 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:19.079 So we can't have unreasonable expectations here, exactly right, And 314 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.160 I think a lot of people that are panning it 315 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.880 are do have I see post all the time that 316 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.559 you know, they're not investigating this. They're not investigating that. 317 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:33.680 It's not an investigation. If you had two simple questions 318 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.200 to ask you guys, okay, congress person that you can't 319 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.240 ask anything other than this question. 320 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.160 One, are there documents. 321 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.680 Or records relating to the assassination that you're aware of 322 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.519 that should be released that haven't been released, or should 323 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:51.640 be collected. 324 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:52.920 That haven't been collected. That's all we want to know. 325 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.000 Just we'll cut this Short's that's what we're there for. 326 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:59.200 One set of questions, and that would have been the 327 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:04.039 first here, second set of questions, you know, second set 328 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.680 of questions, and the second witness is like the doctor. 329 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.880 The bad news here is they're treating the doctor and 330 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.160 the doctor has kind of moved himself into mode which 331 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:20.319 we've seen before when witnesses start becoming involved in solving 332 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.519 the assassination, things go bad. 333 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:22.920 Right. 334 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:27.400 He's an extremely critical witness. He's been on record with 335 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:31.160 his own personal observations from what went on in that 336 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.279 trauma room. That's what he should be talking about. He 337 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:38.519 shouldn't be talking about trajectories. He's talking about womans. What 338 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.240 did you see as a witness. But that's where you know, 339 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:46.599 we've run into that people with witnesses before that decide 340 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:47.720 their investigators. 341 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:50.279 Well, and here's the issue with it, right, is that 342 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.599 someone who is knowledgeable. This is where I truly wish 343 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.640 and I'm not trying to put anybody down here, but 344 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.319 I really wish that among those of us that do 345 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:05.839 have enough knowledge to direct somebody like Birchant, that somebody 346 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:09.880 would give him some notes that say, look, stick to 347 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:16.079 this guy's observations, because that's what's important here. That's where 348 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:20.400 the information that he actually has in his brain is 349 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:21.839 relevant and important. 350 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:24.680 Here, tell me what. And he's kind of started that way. 351 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:26.240 You know, after he. 352 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.279 Got over the whole Warren commission, what did you tell them? 353 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:32.079 Once he got past that, he said, well, what condition 354 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:33.920 was he in? Tell us about that? 355 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:39.880 And you know, the sad part of it, check is 356 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:41.920 he is a smoking witness. 357 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:44.359 I will say this right out loud. 358 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:46.920 If he had been, he will correctly And he's been 359 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.519 interviewed before, and it's on record before. He did an 360 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:55.839 interview with a newspaper before. He literally, if you believe 361 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.920 that man, the ruling Commission is a fraud, He literally 362 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.839 describes what went on in the trauma room. He literally 363 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:08.240 describes what Kip Clark did, what he showed the doctors, 364 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:12.599 what all their doctors agreed to as to the major 365 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.960 damage to the president's head to a frontal entry, and 366 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.799 they all were aware of that. And then you go 367 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.880 on to any true oversight committee where said, well, why 368 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:29.039 was why doesn't that information treated? Why did the government 369 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.799 mess it up? And that leads you into all the 370 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.200 dialogue which. 371 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.319 He would which he would relate to. 372 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.279 And which would the other doctors relate to about the 373 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.599 Secret Service and warring commissioned people coming down and suppressing 374 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:43.359 that information. 375 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.039 That's the topic for this oversight hearing. 376 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.720 That's this is like if they had just gone that direction, 377 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:54.640 the rest of it is meaningless. Just that doctor alone 378 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.160 pursuing that line of inquiry could shift this whole narrative. 379 00:20:58.319 --> 00:20:59.079 Right, I'll give you. 380 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:00.680 I'll give you a simple thing, and I want you 381 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.880 to think about this real quick, because you have talked 382 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.240 to a few I know you have at least encountered 383 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.160 one or two of the doctors from Parkland and talk 384 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:13.079 to you personally, So I have to McClelland is the 385 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:14.400 one that I got to the most. 386 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:17.759 But anyway, here's a weird thing about that. 387 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:20.960 And I've always been curious about this as to whether 388 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.599 it was encouraged by the government or if it was 389 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.960 like sort of a silent thing, or if they agreed 390 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.319 to it. But here's the weird thing that this guy 391 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.599 does that others don't. I asked, and I could get 392 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.079 them to say something. If I'm not going to take notes, 393 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.119 if I'm not going to record it, I could get 394 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.960 them to say, you know, basically, he was dead. 395 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:39.400 When he got there. 396 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.920 Okay, like there was no point in the life saving 397 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:46.039 stuff that went on. 398 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:49.920 They wouldn't say that on the record anywhere. 399 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:55.680 Okay for me, this guy's always said that, and that's 400 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.880 the beginning of where his testimony is different. Okay, there 401 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.599