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begin today's episode. Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in

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this podcast are those of the guests and do not

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necessarily reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,

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or any of the companies they represent. Now, today on

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the show, we welcome channeler Illunia. Now, Lunia and I

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have a deep conversation in studio about her journey as

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a channel But then we have a live channeling where

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we discuss the great shift that is coming for humanity

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in this year, what's going to happen for the rest

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of this year, and much much more. Let's dive in,

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like to welcome to the show, Illunia.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Luna, very well, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming all the way down

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to Next Level SOOL Studios to do this a conversation.

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So I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome. Yeah, it's fun to be here.

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Speaker 1: So first question is you're a channeler. I always like

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to ask what was your life like before the insanity

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of channeling came into your life?

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Speaker 4: That is a very good question, you know it really was.

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It was just more subtle. I would say. I had

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a life that was very quiet. I spent a lot

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of time alone, and even when even when I was

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working kind of a more regular job than I am now,

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I spent a lot of time trying to connect with

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my guides and feeling them and knowing they were there,

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but not really knowing what to do with that. And

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I was a teacher of children. I was a Montessori teacher,

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so I taught children for six years, and during that

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time I knew knew that what I was really doing

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was having the opportunity to heal my inner child, and

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so I really just fully embrace that. That's really what

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my guides explained to me in the ways that I

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could understand them at the time, not auditory like they

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do now, But they explained to me that it was

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my time to heal things that I had been through

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and experiences that I hadn't gotten to fully reconcile that

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really all had to be healed during that time, because

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if it hadn't, then there are more distortions that can

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come out when you are a channeler. Because if my

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experience and my understanding has been that if there's still

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an unhealed part of you inside. Then when you are

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trying to work with someone, you're going to see that.

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You're going to project it because that's a human thing

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to do, and then you're going to see that in

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the other person when that's not necessarily the accurate.

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Speaker 3: Thing to see in them.

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Speaker 4: It's really you are seeing part of yourself and not

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actually what the other person has going on. So my

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life before channeling was a series of undoing and I

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would say a series of slow awakenings of softenings so

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that I could become as clear as possible as I

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am now. And I you know, I'm still a human,

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so I still have distortions, and I really I try

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to work through them every single day. But that was

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that was a big part of my life.

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Speaker 1: Have you been able to tap into your older your

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older past lives? And before we get into your past lives,

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I'd always like asking this question. The concept of past life,

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future life, current life there is doesn't exist for my understanding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually say parallel lives correct.

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Speaker 1: So from what I understand, it's like plates packed or

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records tapped on top of each other, and you can

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kind of just go in and hour I love that

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Speaker 2: Of lives because we think of it as a linear line.

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Speaker 1: To go all the way back to Rome, go all

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the way back to Atlantis or something along those lines

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where it's like this, And that's why you can kind

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of jump back and forth. Can you explain to people

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how all of our lives is happening at the exact

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same time?

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Speaker 4: Ooh sure, I love this question. Yes, it might not

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make a lot of sense. I actually have I've gotten

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I've had the privilege in the gift of actually seeing this,

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others who have not seen it or don't quite understand.

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But it's a fractal that's really that's really the answer.

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So all of life, all of experience, is folding in

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on itself constantly, and it's all turning in. And I

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was actually just having a conversation about this yesterday. It

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is so incredible to me and my heart is just

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filled with it sings, It sings with this truth. The

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Creator is so intelligent that it can be have a

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It is a fractal experience as far as we know,

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because it's far beyond human comprehension. But it is a

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fractal experience constantly turning in on itself, that is so

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intelligent that it can turn its attention and consciousness into

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the most microscopic awareness and be here right now having

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this conversation while in an actuality. This conversation has already happened,

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it's already done, but yet it's also going to go

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on forever because the universe and the Creator are a

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fractal so it's constantly churning in. That is the way

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that I see it, because that's the from a quantum

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physics perspective, that is the truth. That is actually what's happening.

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it is like what you mentioned, or another way is

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if each reality is a box, then you can just

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move between the boxes. You can like a like a cubicle.

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You can jump from cubicle to cubicle and see the

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different experiences that are happening all at the same time,

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and it's all you. And it's because your soul is

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not bound in time and it is not bound by space,

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just as the Creator is not. It's your soul is

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a reflection of the Creator, so it is not bound

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in time and space, and so it's able to have

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multiple experiences all at once because it does not see

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from only this one microscopic perspective. It sees from as

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many perspectives as your soul is able to see from,

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which I don't know the answer to how many that is.

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't it need to still have some sort of

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linear movement in the sense that if Atlantis you learned

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a lesson, and in Rome you forgot that lesson and

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made the mistake again, and in Victorian times you learned

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the lesson, there's an evolution.

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Speaker 4: There, there is, and the way that I described that

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it is spiracle, and that's not a real word, but

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it's a spiral that moves up. It's a spiraical evolution.

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It is not a linear evolution. And the other thing

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that is different that we must remember is that while

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we are talking about our soul having multiple perspectives all

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at once, we also have to remember that that soul

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is infinite, because there are infinite universes and infinite dimensions

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in which that soul is perceiving all of those different

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things at once. So it is far beyond our ability

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to comprehend that it's.

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Speaker 1: Like a really insane Chris Nolan movie.

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Speaker 3: That you understand it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a completely insane It's like if Interstellar mess

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and it holds in on itself, then you dabble bane

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on top of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That is a perfect understanding.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not easy.

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Speaker 1: I always like asking that question because it's not an

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easy thing to understand. But from again, from my perspective

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of speaking to people on the other on the other side,

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or people who talk to the other side, the concept

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of a soul, you know, I always I always joke

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that Jesus is the hardest working man in show business

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because he shows up to all these undas that come in.

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They're always in these near death experiences and it's either.

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Speaker 2: Buddha or yeah, Jesus. Jesus always seems to show up.

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Speaker 1: He's around, He's always around, and and I'm like, man,

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this guy's just working hard, like he's got to run

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over here and run over there. And the concept is that,

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I mean, that's the way we think about it, like.

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Speaker 5: Right, like, oh, but John's but I got to I

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got his schedule, Like no, he's early off like that,

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Like Jesus is stressed out.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, like Jesus like, oh, what's today?

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Speaker 2: How many fifty hundred souls today are? How am I

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gonna get to them all?

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Speaker 1: Today?

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Speaker 2: I got prayers coming in and the world going to hell.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, And that's only in this this time, this time,

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I got thousands and millions of other timelines.

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Speaker 2: I got a deal with.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so I can imagine he's stressed out, Jesus gonna

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die of a heart attack. But anyway, but no, the

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reason that concept idea is that they can be on

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the other side. Your soul can be in multiple places

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at the same time. So from my understanding, when a

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medium is talking to let's say Grandma, the grandma you

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knew in this life, well, that version of that soul

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can show up as a fractal and still talk to

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like that person and have the memories and all that

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stuff and have a with you.

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Speaker 2: But that soul's.

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Speaker 1: Already somewhere else, Like in our head, we're like, what's

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grandma doing? She's just like waiting around all day?

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Speaker 2: Is she chilling?

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Speaker 1: She playing bingo? Like what is like what's happening during

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the day? That's the way, that's the only way we.

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Speaker 2: Can think about it.

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Speaker 1: But if you think about it as a fractal I

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love that word fractal way, that the soul is a

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million different places.

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Speaker 2: It's it might be already incarnated.

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Speaker 4: Show, right And you know, it's interesting that you bring

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that up because of part as I mentioned with with

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mediumship abilities.

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Speaker 3: Part of actually that.

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Speaker 4: That was normal for me as a child, and that's

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part of actually how I got into this. Before I

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started channeling for people, I was doing mediumship things. And

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part of my understanding is that I think that what's

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going on is that sometimes when people are tuning into

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as a medium, when they're tuning into that energy, they

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are actually tuning into exactly what you said. It's the memory,

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it's the energetic residue that is left over from that

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person that you're able to tune into. Because of course

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energy doesn't go anywhere, it just transforms. So if that

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energy has not had a chance to transform, whether that's

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because if it's my grandmother, maybe I'm carrying some of

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the energy from my grandmother because there's something that I

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have left undone with her, or that I didn't get

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a chance to say, whatever it might be. Then if

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I go see a medium, they're going to tune into

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that energy that actually is really just me. It's actually

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my energy of my grandmother that I'm carrying. But because

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it's my memory, because it's actually an energetic residue from

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my grandmother, the medium is able to share all kinds

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of things of like, oh, and your grandmother used to

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use this handkerchief all the time, and now you have it,

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and blah blah blah. All of that stuff is still real,

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it's just being looked at from a temporal landscape.

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Speaker 1: Well, how about and I get that with Grandma because

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Grandma has a handful of people, remember Grandma. Yes, But

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when you're talking about Robin Williams, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great,

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Clear Patra, these people who are throughout history known, they

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can't kind of just fade. That's true as much so.

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had so many interactions and I met Robin once when

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he was alive. What amazing, beautiful, amazing, amazing soul. Yeah,

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but like Robin shows up all the time in other

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people's and these because he was just such a beloved

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he was such a beloved soul.

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Speaker 2: On this planet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you so see.

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Speaker 4: And that's part of the way that I look at

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it is those all of those beings that you mentioned

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that are well known, they remain and forever will in

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the collective.

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Speaker 3: Memory of humanity.

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Speaker 4: If there is a being who has truly made some

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kind of impact or is just in the collective memory

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Jesus right, they're going to stay around. Looking into the

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acotic records of those beings is different because you're actually

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looking at whatever it is that you're able to see.

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entire life period, their lifetrack, at least in this lifetime,

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possibly even into their other past lives, like previous to

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Robin Williams being Robin Williams, Who was he?

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Speaker 3: What did he do?

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Speaker 4: You're able to see that. That's different than someone than

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the energy coming through in an ND or in even

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a mediumship experience. It's it's different. And I don't I'm

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not saying that's always the case, but I do know

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that that's partially what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So going back to your past lives, what past lives

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do you have you been given access to? And you

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know how far back do you go?

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Speaker 4: That's a lovely question. So I actually can see any

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any past life that I want. I don't do that

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when I when I very first started looking into into

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the records, I can see everything, and I realized, okay, wait,

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this is this is so much information that I don't

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actually know what's helpful here, Like I'm seeing this past life,

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but is that actually necessary? That That's what started guiding

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me to working with the Acaca guides very specifically, and

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then also the person's higher self. So that has shifted

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my my use of the Acashak records, and I do

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the same for myself. I don't just go nosing around

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even though it's my my information. There are things that

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are not meant to be remembered. There's a reason why

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the earth is set up in a way where you

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come in and you don't remember anything like that's not

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how it has to be, That's not how I think

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it's going to stay. But there are certain things that

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simply don't need to be remembered. So I don't go

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poking around. But I have seen pretty pretty much the

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majority of my past human lives. I actually haven't had

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that many compared to some people. I haven't had too

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many human lives. And I've gone back in two times

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in Limuria and Kem previous to ancient Egypt. Those are

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two very major lived lifetimes that I've had here on Earth,

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and then of course beyond that, before I came to Earth,

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I've seen almost all of those as well.

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Speaker 1: So Lameria, can you talk a little bit about your

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past life? Any any stories in Lamaria? Yeah, because Lamara

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is one of those those those I mean, Atlantis gets.

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Speaker 3: All the press it does. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: It was Plato. It was Plato marketing great mark getting

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on the Atlantic. I mean he built that thing up

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a lot and carried along the marketing campaign behind the land.

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Is this great? And it's still That's why Titanic will

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continue to be talked about. There's been many other sinkings,

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more casualties, but the marketing, the story, and then of

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course Leo and Kate. But anyway, Jack and Jack and Rose,

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but anyway, we could go on forever as they do them. Sorry, please,

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it was there I couldn't help it. But but Atlantis

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gets all the pressed. But Lumiria, from my understanding, was

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around at the same time, kind of like the US

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and Europe are around at the same time. Two very

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different you know, or China and Europe and the US,

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two very different cultures going on two different paths in

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a sense, What was your experience of Lumeria and what

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they had to offer the like, what's what happened during

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that time period versus if you had any memory of

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Atlantis at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: So in Lemyria, my own lifetime was actually very interesting there.

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It's it's somewhat what I mentioned earlier about having coming

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in with with a wide amount of I guess spiritual abilities.

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I don't really know what other word to call them,

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psychic abilities, which was very normal in Lamyria for beings

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to come in with their their third eyes wide open.

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Lemuria was known for because right from the get go, basically, yeah,

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because the culture of that time and the way that

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those beings lived. When when humans, when souls came in

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to inhabit those bodies, they were almost immediately able to

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go into what we would consider to be the fifth dimension.

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they they have their third dimensional body, but they're able

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to be in the fifth dimension, which allows them to

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see things differently, perceive things differently, and access different energies.

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So that that was part of my experience. Again normal

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in Lemuria for the most part, and so I was

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a healer and I did various things there and what

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was taking place in Atlantis, because the lifetime that I

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had was during this shift that happened in Atlantis, and

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Atlantis was already going through a lot of shifts. They

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were moving very rapidly. The Limurian culture they got to

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a place where they were very content, so they were

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evolving in a five dimensional space, but not a three

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dimensional space. That's one of the main distinctions between Lemuria.

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Speaker 3: And Atlantis that I have seen.

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Speaker 4: Atlantis was able to evolve highly in a third dimensional

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space and somewhat accessing the fifth dimensional space as well.

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Atlantis was about technology while Lemuria was about healing. That's

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a very common distinction, and it's again five D three D.

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So when Atlantis had this kind of compulsion come up

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in them, which I have seen part of the story

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of that and how that took root in the culture,

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it very much shows just the collective nature of humanity.

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we've been doing this whole being in rhythm.

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Speaker 3: With the Earth thing.

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Speaker 4: But what happens if we decide to go into a

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space where we use more of our willpower, where we

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use more force to move ahead, to move into a

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different space of evolution? What can we accomplish there? What

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happens then? When that question was asked, and then that

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those paths were gone down in a very i'll say

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aggressive way, that's when things shifted in Atlantis and a

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different energy kind of took hold in the mind body

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of those people. That of course affected Lamyria. It came

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back to Lemuria because now they're experiencing a different level

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of energy. They are so tuned into the Earth that

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they pretty in more or less new in some capacity.

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Speaker 3: Energetically.

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Speaker 4: Things were shifting over there, and things were happening. When

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Atlantis kind of came and I'll say, tried to infiltrate

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Lamyria in the ways that they did. After a very

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long story with me trying to change things in Atlantis,

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there's kind of this story of like an underground kind

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of message trying to happen between myself and other people

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in the Muria and Atlantis. That is what I was doing,

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is I was trying to shift things and just influence things,

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but from Lemuria rather than going to Atlantis itself. That

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didn't work, and the Atlantean people, some of them came

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to infiltrate Lemuria. And when that took place, the Lemurian

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people previously had not really experienced any level of major

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fear or trauma, as we mentioned earlier, So this is

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essentially the first major trauma that almost anyone in Limuria

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is facing that did something to their bodies. And the

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way that I can word it and understand it is

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that it grounded them so they were not able to

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access the fifth dimension as easily. They became much more

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in their three dimensional bodies exactly because they were bound

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by fear. Fear traps us in this body because the

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body says, I need attention, there's something major going on.

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You need to take care of us and save us

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and keep us safe. So of course, fear grounds you.

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Fear is what keeps you dense and locked in.

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: That took place.

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Speaker 4: And I was not able to get beyond that in

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that lifetime, that the fear was too much for me

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as a being in that story that I was playing out,

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which I was a man actually in that lifetime, in

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that story, I couldn't get over it. I could not

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get beyond it, and it really did consume me.

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Speaker 3: It took a lot.

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Speaker 4: And so that lifetime and things that I went through

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there that essentially set up my Again, my understanding is

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that it kind of set up the rest of the

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lives that I've had here on Earth as a human,

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those beyond those kind of special times of humanity, the

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Golden Ages and all of that of Kem and Atlantis.

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After that, the rest of my lives have kind of

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been set up because of that lifetime, including this one.

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Speaker 3: Actually.

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Speaker 1: So you're familiar with the Yugas, right, m hmm. Okay,

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So the concept of the Yugas by Uk the Schwa

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right there who came out with the book The Holy

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Science for everybody listening, is twenty four thousand year cycle

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of enlightenment. We start here, then we go into the

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dark ages, which is down here, and then we come

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back in. That's the cycle, and that humanity goes through

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these twenty four thousand year cycles. When Atlantis was starting

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to go dark, let's say it was just they were

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going they were going to full bane. If we bring

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that back around, they were starting to go full bane.

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They that was towards the we were starting to leave

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the high Enlightenment because Atlantis, to my understanding, was a

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more spiritually advanced civilization than we are.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, certainly year.

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Speaker 1: By far right exactly. But then they started getting into

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the technology, into the third dimension really heavily, and they

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started to lose the connection where you guys in Lamia

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were very much connected, but then got ranked back down right.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what's interesting that I would say the

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people in Limuria, they were living outside of that cycle.

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The cycle exists because that's the cycle that humanity agrees

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to collectively to keep going around, and the Lemurian people

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were not living in that cycle. They were living mostly

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on the outside of it. But when you only have

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what I don't know, thirteen percent of the population of

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the world living in one way, it's not enough to

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change the collective. And the Atlantean Empire, as it was

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an empire, had a lot, a lot more influence than

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the Lemurian people, so that it affected us, and there's

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no blame there. It's also part of the evolution that we're.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to go through as a species.

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Speaker 1: So this is just where we are, right And then

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you got, guys, kind of got yanked back down.

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Speaker 4: We did, We got pulled back into the cycle.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, come on, it's fun over here.

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Speaker 3: We're in the dark.

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Speaker 2: We're in the dark. It's great. Have you seen that?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: But so so so we were so then during this

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this darkened, darkening time is when we started to leave

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the Age of Enlightenment. And that could have been thousands

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of years from the peak of everyone is as close

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to source as possible. This twelve thousand, this twelve thousand

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year ago, the younger dryest, because I know you're a

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lost civilization, you know, a fan as well as I am,

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so the younger dryest. When there was an event that

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you know, created the Great Floods, and and you know,

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all the great flood myth that we hear and kind

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of destroyed humanity in a certain way, we set us.

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Speaker 2: We kind of got thrown back.

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Speaker 1: To this literally almost to the stone, washed it clean,

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washed it clean, quite literally. Where were we, from my understanding,

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where we were in the cycle was? I mean, we

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were pretty far down. If it's maybe like four o'clock

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on on the on the on the on the face,

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because I mean the dark ages is that's the bottom,

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that's six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when nothing.

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Speaker 1: Happened for hundreds of years. I mean it was just dark.

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Then the Renaissance came and we started to come back out,

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00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,839
and we are now on the upward swing.

478
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:32,599
Speaker 2: And we could see that, I mean.

479
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: From our technology, from the conversation we're having now in

480
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,359
a public forum without being burned to the steak.

481
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: Or phone.

482
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: Or shot at this point, again, at least in this culture,

483
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,920
many other cultures around the world. There are other cultures

484
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:49,640
other places, just like Lameria, who live outside of the

485
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,440
rest of the consciousness of humanity. So where were we

486
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,839
in that cycle at the twelve thousand year when when

487
00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:01,039
the Younger Drives happened and Lamiria was wiped out. Atlantis

488
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,240
was wiped out, and a handful of from my understanding,

489
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:05,960
was only Atlantean's. I'm not sure if it was some

490
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,599
Lamarans who went off to different areas of the world

491
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,079
and kind.

492
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: Of try to rebuild, yeah, right.

493
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: Humanity, like obviously in Kem, obviously in meso America and

494
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,359
other areas around the world.

495
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.

496
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 4: So what I have seen is that the Lemurian people,

497
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,720
the majority of them, left this kind of western the

498
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,680
west coast of the near the United States and also

499
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,079
actually partially land that's not there right now. They left

500
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,279
and they went south. So some of them went to

501
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:38,039
went basically to various Polynesian islands, it's the easiest way

502
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,319
to say it. They went to different places. The earth

503
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,920
also looked very different at that time, so that like

504
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480
now they're small islands, and they weren't quite that way before.

505
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:50,799
There were already indigenous people living in those areas. Just

506
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,559
like how there were indigenous people living all over the

507
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,119
world that were not in Atlantis and also were not

508
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,400
in Limyria. So just like how we have I guess

509
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,839
cultures in South America that are untouched, right, that don't

510
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,079
know about other people exactly just like that that was.

511
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 3: The same thing.

512
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: There were people all over the place that were not

513
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,400
necessarily in either one of those cultures. So the Lemurian

514
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,160
people they joined another culture essentially they kind of like

515
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,880
took over. And there are certain concepts that we can

516
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,519
see that are parallel from Lemuria to like the cultures

517
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,400
in the Aboriginal spaces. The stories that they would tell,

518
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,319
they know that it's from the Lemurian people. They talk

519
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,359
about that the Lamurians accessing more of the five dimensional

520
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,319
consciousness and kind of interacting in that space that is

521
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,039
really likened to the dream space. That is a huge

522
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,960
concept in the Aboriginal culture is that dreaming is actually

523
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,640
where life happens. That's like more important than waking life

524
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,640
because of the things that you're able to access, So

525
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,759
that can easily be seen the influence there. And then

526
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:57,480
with Atlantis, of course it's it's really everywhere. You can

527
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,920
see a lot of it everywhere. But the beings what

528
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,359
I am curious about exploring more because I've only gotten

529
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,000
a hint of this. There are beings from Atlantis that

530
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,880
even though that whole shift happened, and even though there

531
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,880
was we'll say darkness again just for ease. Even though

532
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,680
that was all taking place, they actually still believed in

533
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,200
what they were doing. They still believed that that was

534
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,519
the right thing to do. That it didn't matter that

535
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,319
the flood had come, it didn't matter that things had

536
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:29,119
started to shift in a way that clearly did not

537
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,240
look good. They still held by what they believed to

538
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,720
be the right thing. And some of those have also

539
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,319
started cultures. There are cultures that exist now, like the

540
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,160
Roman Empire. I do have from what I understand, and

541
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,240
I really have not been able to look into it,

542
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:47,200
so it's a very small understanding, but that is really

543
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,480
an offshoot of Atlantean beings who are not really concerned

544
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,799
about holding things in a way that is balanced, that

545
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240
is similar to what we would consider to be spiritual beliefs.

546
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Roman Empire came up long time

547
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,279
after it.

548
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:06,599
Speaker 4: Did, and the the the ancestry of that, the real

549
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,160
the way that that started, of what it means to

550
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,359
build an empire, that's that's an Atlantean that's an Atlantean

551
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,960
trait exactly or idea. And then other beings, like you mentioned,

552
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,839
from Atlantis, they went to they went to Egypt, and

553
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200
again there were other people already living there, just like

554
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,880
there were around the world, and they did something similar

555
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,920
to Lemuria, where they brought the the information and the

556
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,400
beliefs or the teachings that they felt would be helpful

557
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,960
to that space, and that's what they started. They basically

558
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,119
tried to start a new culture and teach new things.

559
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,799
And kem was quite successful in the way.

560
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: That they did that is that is that both?

561
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,079
Speaker 4: Yes, as again from the stories and from what I understand, Yes,

562
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:45,400
he was.

563
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,319
Speaker 3: He is one of the beings. He's like the most

564
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:48,440
talked about of.

565
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:55,759
Speaker 1: The marketing again again, very good the Emerald, the Emerald tablets,

566
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:59,839
that's that's a that's a good marketing piece with that. Yeah,

567
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
I mean you look at I mean you look at

568
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,119
the Aztecs and the Olmecs and the Mayans and those

569
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,559
kind of cultures. There's aspects, especially like the Aztecs even

570
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,839
the Inca, that they're empires. They were full blown empires. Yeah,

571
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480
they were full blown empires there. So there's there's tempts

572
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:22,400
of this empire building Rome one of the greatest empires.

573
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,680
I think what was it wasn't the Mongols even bigger?

574
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: Even bigger?

575
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: That's true, and I think there's a difference between between

576
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,799
which I know that this is true in some of

577
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:34,400
those cultures that you mentioned, there's in meso America. But

578
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,839
there's a difference between building an empire and conquering other

579
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,039
people for the sake of power.

580
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: That's that's all.

581
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: That's a Roman thing.

582
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,839
Speaker 4: That's say, that's a Mongol that's that's exactly what I mean.

583
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,599
That's a Roman and a Mongol thing. That's like a

584
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,079
later empire, because that is the energy of will and force,

585
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,559
and that is, in a nutshell kind of the downfall

586
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,319
of Atlantis was moving into that energy rather than being

587
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,799
an inner rhythmic balance with the Earth, with humanity, with

588
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:03,920
where humanity was at.

589
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: That's what they chose.

590
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: And there's there's empires right now, I want to call

591
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,759
them empires, but countries going on right now in the

592
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:15,359
world to have that energy. And the only reason that

593
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,759
they don't do anything is because there's a bigger a bigger.

594
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: Dog on the block.

595
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's keeping them at bay. But if that dog

596
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,319
wasn't there, right who knows. I mean, there's many countries

597
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:30,160
in the world that would absolutely just start taking over countries.

598
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,160
Yeah again, back in the day, that's old energy.

599
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: Exactly.

600
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,039
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I mean, when you're

601
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:39,079
told the story that that's how you come off as powerful,

602
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:40,920
That that's how you get what you want. That that's

603
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440
how you show your people that you're that you mean something,

604
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,119
that you're worthy of something. People perpetuate that story even

605
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:47,319
though it's completely distorted.

606
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

607
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,519
and now back to the show. That's that's such an

608
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,960
old idea and such an old energy where it's it's

609
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:10,720
obvious that cooperation, connecting resources, working as a as a

610
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680
as as a world or a global community is so

611
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:15,799
much more beneficial.

612
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 4: Yes, it is, it is, it is, And it's as

613
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,799
outdated as the biological belief that things have evolved because

614
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,559
of competition. It is as outdated, are we, yes?

615
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,759
Speaker 3: Particularly right right? Like to make that claim?

616
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: Is it really does make me roll my eyes because

617
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,200
if you just go to even the basic function of

618
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,319
a cell, cells started to come together, which this is

619
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,240
you know, who knows what actually was going on and

620
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,519
how cells formed all of that. But if we just

621
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,680
look at the basic function of a cell, cells form

622
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:53,119
and come together to specialize in something. So one cells

623
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
are floating off on their own. There's nothing on this planet, right,

624
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
there's water, and the cells are floating, and finally two

625
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,680
cells get together and they say, you know what, Actually,

626
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,960
if we work together and you just do this one

627
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,599
thing and I do this other thing, then maybe we

628
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,839
can see how it goes. That same idea, and that

629
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240
same story was told again and again until billions of

630
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,160
cells are together, and one group says, I'm just going

631
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,119
to fun focus on moving the body. Another group says,

632
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,440
I'm just going to focus on vision, and another group says,

633
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,119
I'm just going to focus on digesting food. That is collaboration,

634
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,640
that's not competition. So to say that evolution has taken

635
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,000
place because of competition, to me, is also a very

636
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,480
outdated and medieval idea.

637
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,839
Speaker 6: It's collaborative, right, And then what is cancer? It's when

638
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,240
cells just the distortion the distortion of that. Yeah, because

639
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:46,279
I think as a species we're pre wired to cooperate.

640
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:48,640
That's the only way we survived. That's the only because

641
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,839
we're not strong in the sense of I mean, we're

642
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:52,839
a weak mammal.

643
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,039
Speaker 4: It's true, we have nothing going for us physically.

644
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: He's very little, very I.

645
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Don't care that most jacked.

646
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,359
Speaker 1: Ye put them again the weakest silver back and that's

647
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,039
the end of the day. The weakest, like the one

648
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,720
that all the other silver backs pick up the runs

649
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,880
of the little will destroy any of them.

650
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: And he's a vegetarian.

651
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,759
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there, just throwing it out there.

652
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:14,759
And he's a vegetary.

653
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm just trying out.

654
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 1: But so we're not really kind of built for to

655
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,519
be honest with you, and this this might go down

656
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:30,240
another road, but we're not really built well for this planet.

657
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very interesting point.

658
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we stand in the sun too long, we burn, burn,

659
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400
Crisp animals don't do that. There's not one animal goes

660
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,599
oh I need that forty five, I need that fifty.

661
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,519
Speaker 2: That's not a thing.

662
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,279
Speaker 1: The only thing we got going for us is our

663
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:52,160
brains one and then our cooperation. It means, well, yeah,

664
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,160
there's that, but the combination of our hands with thumb

665
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
really is the big big the big boys with thumb.

666
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:03,279
The thumb brain and the ability to cooperate our hearts

667
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,039
is the only thing that keeps us has gotten us anywhere,

668
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:11,000
because we'll be destroyed by a pack of wolves. All that,

669
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,239
all these there's there's not We're such a weak species

670
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,559
we are.

671
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,159
Speaker 4: And you know it's interesting because again I really like

672
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,800
to look at as many levels as I can, so

673
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,440
on a biological level, the human body is an animal, right,

674
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,920
This is the animal part of us as a being. This,

675
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719
this has the instincts of no, that's mine. This has

676
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,760
the instincts of no, I need that, and the taking.

677
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,360
So it is only through our heart, accessing a part

678
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,239
that's higher than our lower self that we're able to say, Okay,

679
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,639
actually there's enough here we can share. I'll actually give

680
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,079
you a little bit. I don't I don't need all

681
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:47,320
of that.

682
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of apples on that.

683
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of apples.

684
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't need the whole tree to myself, and I

685
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:54,400
think that that's part of our evolution as a species.

686
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,199
The lower base part of ourselves are what is being

687
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,719
called on and that is being poked at repeatedly. That

688
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,480
is making people act in a way that is animalistic,

689
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,639
that is still based in competition, that is still based

690
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:13,519
out of fear. People who are I would say, trapped

691
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,000
in the ideas of religion where they're only allowed to

692
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,360
believe in one thing, and they're only allowed to believe

693
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,760
in one person and one story and one narrative. That's

694
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,400
being bound in fear. That's a base instinct that's from

695
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,519
the body. And the same is true with competition. If

696
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,519
that's where you're operating from, you have not risen to

697
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,639
a higher place where you are able to collaborate, use

698
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,440
your hands to give rather than take.

699
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: But if I believe in my God, and you believe

700
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,719
in your God, but my God's the only God.

701
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,599
Speaker 2: That's ego, yes and fear.

702
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,519
Speaker 1: And if we are the chosen people, that's the way

703
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,760
I sleep at night. That's the way I can't sleep

704
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,239
at night if I'm not the chosen person. That's the

705
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,239
story I was told by that old dude in the corner,

706
00:35:57,519 --> 00:35:59,480
and he told me that since you don't believe in

707
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,199
the same thing, I might have to kill you because

708
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,280
you're a threat to our beliefs. Is right, exactly, such

709
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,519
a barbaric I need.

710
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: And that's where it gets more complex, because we have

711
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:15,079
the animalistic body, with its animalistic needs and its instincts

712
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,039
saying no, we have to take this, no, we have

713
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,440
to go there. And then we have the mind. When

714
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,559
the mind is rooted in the body, When the mind

715
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,239
is rooted in the instincts, and in those base lower

716
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,760
parts of ourself, we say, I have to take that,

717
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,280
and that story is much larger than just the apple

718
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440
on the tree. That story becomes no, I have to

719
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,320
take that, and it's someone's land because that person doesn't

720
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,480
believe in the God that I believe in. So it

721
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,360
gets far more complex when the layers of our mind

722
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
get thrown on to the animal parts of our body,

723
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,519
which again is why coming to the heart is the

724
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:46,800
simplest thing to do. Your heart is going to tell

725
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,559
you if it feels good or not. There are no

726
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,199
stories in the heart. There's only truth. That's what lies

727
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,639
in there.

728
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,199
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about the programming that

729
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,719
we all go through that those seven years as a

730
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Jesuits said, you know, give me, give me a child

731
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840
for seven years, and I'll show you the man. When

732
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,360
I heard that for the first time, I was like,

733
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,719
oh my god, he's he was absolutely right. Those first

734
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,559
seven years is who you become. And you know I was.

735
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:19,719
I'm a recovering Catholic. So I'm still guilty about it.

736
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,920
I feel guilty about it. But so I joke the Catholics,

737
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,400
I joke they've.

738
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,519
Speaker 2: Had They've had a rough go of it lately.

739
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: But but when I was raised in Catholic school, you know,

740
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:39,360
my parents were particularly religious, but it was a Latino background,

741
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,199
you know, South America is mostly Catholic essentially. And I

742
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,719
would I went back and I would read my notebooks

743
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,400
of like what they were teaching in first grade, and

744
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,559
I was like, my pure propaganda, Like it's like there

745
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,480
is no it's one bias. It's like it's all about this.

746
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,039
And it was like, you know, and then the stories,

747
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,280
let's talk about hell, and that's a whole other conversation.

748
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,079
But this program and I saw the programming, but it

749
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:12,159
didn't make sense to me. As I continued to get older,

750
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,800
it just that narrative didn't make sense. The belief in

751
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Jesus and his teachings. I started to go down that

752
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,559
road without the dogma and then the idea of a

753
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,920
higher power. So I'm very grateful for that introduction that

754
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,599
there was like, hey, there's something bigger than yourself. Hey

755
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,400
there's a god. He's an angry god. He's very jealous,

756
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,800
too spiteful jealous. I'm like, which also as I got older,

757
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,119
I'm like, man, this guy's insecure.

758
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, you know, there you go.

759
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,039
It didn't make a lot of sense.

760
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: And I go and there's there's like two billion other

761
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,440
people on the planet at the time, two or three

762
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,000
billion other people at the time when I was a kid,

763
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,119
and I was like, and they don't believe this?

764
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: Are they all going to hell?

765
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,639
Speaker 1: This doesn't make like a lot of sense here if

766
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,400
God loves all of us and like it like this

767
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,199
is you know, it didn't make any sense. So I

768
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,119
had to break out of my own programming. And they're

769
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:07,880
still programming.

770
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with, of course.

771
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,199
Speaker 1: Which is called baggage, which is called trauma, which is whatever.

772
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,559
But that programming is so powerful and people don't really

773
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,039
understand that because like, if you were born into a

774
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,719
Muslim family, you'd be Muslim. If you were born and

775
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,519
into an Aborigine family, you'd be like, there's the stars

776
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,599
and there's dream time, and that's that's the programming you

777
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,440
would have gotten. Can you talk a little bit about

778
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,280
from your perspective, the higher self and the lower perspective

779
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:37,159
of programming and how full it literally is on every

780
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,760
human being?

781
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the world.

782
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,039
Speaker 4: That's a beautiful question, you know, I would say, also

783
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:47,440
just to comment on your own experience the ability to say, huh,

784
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,840
that doesn't really sit right with me, that doesn't really

785
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,639
make sense. That is, from my understanding, that's accessing the

786
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,559
higher mind. That's choosing to see things from a higher perspective.

787
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:58,760
When you are pulling on the strings of the lower

788
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000
base self, that he keeps the mind shut. If we

789
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,800
were to imagine the mind having a roof that like

790
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,280
a kite, all of the strings are pulled down and

791
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
kept tight and there's no way to get out of it.

792
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,639
There's nothing above it. When you are calling on the

793
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,719
lower base self, when you're using fear to control and

794
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,239
manipulate a person, when you tell them that if you

795
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,360
do this thing, it's going to impact all of these

796
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,639
other people. That's using actually the gift of the heart

797
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,039
to make a point to say to be afraid to say, oh, well,

798
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,239
if you make this choice, then you're actually gonna condemn

799
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,239
these million or ten thousand other people. That was a

800
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,360
story that my mother was told with her programming. And

801
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,800
when that happens.

802
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

803
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,639
and now back to the show.

804
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:53,199
Speaker 3: A human is six is five.

805
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,159
Speaker 4: They don't have any idea what else is out there?

806
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,599
They are looking to the person that is with them,

807
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,599
or the the people the adults that are with them

808
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:03,880
and saying, you are how I'm going to function in

809
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,320
the world.

810
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 3: You are what's giving me love. All I know is love.

811
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: And if you're telling me that that's what love is,

812
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,559
or that this is what I must do in order

813
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,639
to align to love, then I'm going to believe you.

814
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,400
That's again, that's really true manipulation of the heart, and

815
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,719
it's keeping the mind closed. And what a perfect and

816
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:26,519
genius way to keep people stuck doing the same thing

817
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:30,760
and stay on the wheel and never question it. It's

818
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,760
the ultimate plan for control because if you say, yeah,

819
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,719
the creator that you believe in actually is out to

820
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,519
get you unless you do these things. What a better

821
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,880
way to keep someone in line that I mean, that

822
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,039
is the ultimate form of control, and to completely give

823
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:55,000
away their sovereignty, to completely give away their power by saying, yeah,

824
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,159
so it's okay for us over here. But those people

825
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,519
that believe this thing, that do that thing, that eat

826
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,400
this food, that whatever it is, they're the ones who

827
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,920
are going to go to hell. So you don't ever

828
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,559
want to be like them. You don't ever want to

829
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,559
be friends with them, and when you see them, you

830
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:09,599
need to let them know.

831
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,599
Speaker 3: That that's what's going to happen.

832
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: Convert them, you do, That's God's way. That is the

833
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,480
ultimate control, because then they are saying, you're living beyond yourself,

834
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,960
you are being a creator, you are acting on the

835
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,559
part of God. If you do these things, that is

836
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:30,039
the ultimate form of control.

837
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean. And it's quite sad.

838
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 4: Because it's all of the gifts of being a human,

839
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,320
but they're being taken advantage of. They're calling on the

840
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
love of a child when they're six, They're calling on

841
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,440
the trust that that child has. They're calling on the

842
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:48,239
power that is the creator inside, and then saying, this.

843
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,599
Speaker 3: Is the way that you're allowed to use that.

844
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: This is what that has to look like, and this

845
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,559
is what that absolutely cannot look like. It's taking away

846
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:55,360
all of the power.

847
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: And you said Hell, which is one of my favorite subjects.

848
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,199
Speaker 2: I love Hell.

849
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,159
Speaker 1: I think it's I love Hell. You can quote me.

850
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 3: I love Hell.

851
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,119
Speaker 1: This is fantastic because I was I was told about

852
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,000
hell when I was in first grade. I can't imagine

853
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,760
I'm a six year old going hell. I came home crying.

854
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,079
I came home. Can you imagine like if you don't

855
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:18,360
do this, if you eat meat on Friday, you know,

856
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,840
that's when I didn't understand. Like, so if I kill

857
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:27,639
somebody and I eat meat, equal, even as a kid,

858
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:28,280
I'm going.

859
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,119
Speaker 2: Something.

860
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,039
Speaker 1: It's like cessamester something here, something, you know, it's a

861
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,679
kind of thing. Because it just didn't make any sense

862
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,039
to me. So the whole concept of hell, which people

863
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:40,800
are still.

864
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: I mean very very very very very.

865
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,119
Speaker 1: Much into it. And again let's going back to a

866
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:48,039
PR firm and a marketing firm.

867
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,679
Speaker 2: Uh, the great, the greatest PR agent for.

868
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:54,159
Speaker 1: Hell is Dante. Yes, that is hell that we know

869
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,079
is Dante's. It's not the Bible's help, which, by the way,

870
00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:59,440
I don't know if if you knew or not, I'm

871
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,119
sure you do that. The Old Testament no help, the Torah,

872
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,119
no help, no help. From my understanding, when a soul

873
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,840
dies done, there was you.

874
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,639
Speaker 2: Either go to heaven or YadA YadA YadA kind of thing.

875
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: And Hell was brought into the New Testament from from again,

876
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,159
and please quote me if I'm wrong that Jesus was

877
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,159
taken from a story of Jesus. Jesus apparently created Hell

878
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,239
or brought the.

879
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,039
Speaker 4: Smith in which sounds like the act of being.

880
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, because if you know, Jesus I almost got the

881
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960
hell out of everybody. He was talking at some sort

882
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,519
of lecture and he a sermon and he's like, if

883
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,159
you guys don't get your act together, there's this lake

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,519
down the down the street where they throw all their

885
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:52,000
garbage in and burn, and you're gonna go into this place.

886
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,000
I forgot the name of that lake. But this is

887
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,840
this is historical. And they took that story in the

888
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,760
Council of Nicia when they were put in the Bible

889
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,320
together other editing things out, uh.

890
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,039
Speaker 2: And said hell.

891
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: Great, then a couple hundred I don't know when Dante

892
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,679
showed up. And when Dante showed up, oh yeah, that

893
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,519
was because Dante wonderful.

894
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: Writer, Yes, very But the whole.

895
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,079
Speaker 1: Concept of the of the hell's and all and other

896
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,880
levels of hell and the poking and the torch, you know, I.

897
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,679
Speaker 4: Find that so interesting because he was not actually writing

898
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
about hell. He was writing about his experience on earth.

899
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,400
That is quite a metaphor because really what he was

900
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,360
saying is that his life had become a living hell,

901
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,760
and all of the people that are in that story

902
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,039
are characters from his life that were basically giving him

903
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:40,760
a hard time.

904
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: So that is very interesting.

905
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: And they brought that story. They're like, oh, we like that,

906
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,599
let's take that. Wow, and they put it in the

907
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,119
myth and now that's the concept of hell. I mean,

908
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:52,599
then of course there's Lucifer and the Devil and all

909
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,039
of that fallen angels and all that kind of stuff,

910
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:57,519
and then the Book of Enoch and we can get

911
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:02,079
into all that. But it's a fascinta because I love

912
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:06,039
going into the historical facts of especially my religion that

913
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,159
I came from. To kind of this. This kind of

914
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:12,480
debunk a lot of the programming that people are stuck to.

915
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,840
And if they don't want to believe what I'm saying,

916
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,039
you go look it up yourself. When I heard about

917
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,679
the Council of Nicia, my mind blew up.

918
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: I was like what.

919
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,199
Speaker 1: There was a group of them that just got together

920
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,559
and wrote the Bible and like edited out things like okay,

921
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:28,880
which stories are we keeping guys? Yeah, it was and

922
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,159
it was created by Constantine, the Roman emperor, because the

923
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,679
Christians were getting out of hand and we need to

924
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,199
take control of the situation. And before they would throw

925
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,119
Christians to the lions and then afterwards, like, all right,

926
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,559
where everyone we're Christian. Now if you're not Christian, wound

927
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:44,719
thrown the lions because they need to control, and they

928
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,519
built this whole Bible up around that, and they edited

929
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,159
things out and like, oh, reincarnation, we can't have that.

930
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:51,559
That's not gonna.

931
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 2: Work for what we're trying to do.

932
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:53,159
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

933
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: We need them to believe that this is their one

934
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,199
and only life, right, and we need that life to

935
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,840
look this certain way and for them to behave this

936
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,039
certain way. And it's very interesting actually that that they

937
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,000
chose to do what you mentioned about Christians, because really

938
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,280
it's like nineteen eighty four. No, no, we were never

939
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,760
at war with euro Asia. That was actually always our ally,

940
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,679
that's what we always did. It's the same things exactly.

941
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,440
There's just writing a story to suit you.

942
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 3: That's all it is.

943
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,559
Speaker 2: It's it's it's pretty fascinating, it is.

944
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,679
Speaker 1: And I did not realize when I got I got

945
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,039
a chance last year to go to the Vatican. Oh yeah,

946
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:31,079
and I'm still taking a shower from that experience. You'll

947
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,480
be scrubbing, scrubbing at off for a while. No, No,

948
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:35,639
I mean it's a stunning place.

949
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: It is I've been there, and.

950
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,199
Speaker 1: In the Vatican Museum is the embarrassment of riches, and

951
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440
that's so many stolen, so much stolen art, it's not

952
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,079
even funny.

953
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,599
Speaker 2: But when you walk into the.

954
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's Basilica and you walk around and it's just

955
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:51,599
stunning thing it is, and I mean it's it's it's

956
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:54,239
I mean, you can't deny it's beautiful.

957
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,039
Speaker 3: It's a work of art.

958
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: It's the whole damn thing. It's insane.

959
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I was just sitting there, going, this has

960
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,480
nothing to do with Jesus, like I just got just

961
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:07,719
this is nothing nothing, not the pointy hats, not the

962
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,159
gold on the walls, not the rules, and the dog

963
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,800
has nothing to do with Jesus. And I just said,

964
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,280
I just and I I just saw it through such

965
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,000
different eyes. Yeah, you know you, I mean there's a

966
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,159
reverence and I can under I said, I said to

967
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:28,480
my wife, I'm like, imagine you're a peasant working the

968
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:33,079
fields exactly in Italy or somewhere, and you walk into

969
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,239
Saint Peter's Basilica and you're an un educated person, right,

970
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,559
never see anything like it. You're like, this obviously was

971
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,000
built by God. Yes, there's no way, this was not

972
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,000
whatever that man on the on the up there is

973
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:46,679
telling me, I'm gonna have to believe.

974
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: He is the chosen one.

975
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: He's obviously the chosen one. Very similar to.

976
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: When when the priests were at the top of Chichenza

977
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719
and they understood science enough to know when.

978
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Tomorrow the sun will come through here and the lights.

979
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: Will come and they had look what and all of

980
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,519
a sudden, oh my god, the sub game because they

981
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:07,360
understood basic yeah, basic science.

982
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: And it happened throughout history.

983
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:14,199
Speaker 4: And that's actually the same story that we're in right now.

984
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,000
It's the same exact story. It's just on a different level.

985
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,079
People's minds. People's minds are being controlled. There is programming

986
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,039
that happens in churches like you mentioned, but also in

987
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:27,360
school you're told this is what you need to believe,

988
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,920
and I need you to memorize this, and this subject

989
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,840
never comes into this subject, and this subject never touches

990
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,440
that subject.

991
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: It's all separate.

992
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 4: Everything is a disparate point that you have to try

993
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,880
to make connections to minds are controlled, The people who

994
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,000
have more information are revered. The people who look like

995
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,280
they are closer to God or closer to whatever someone

996
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,920
wants to believe is god. If science is your god,

997
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:55,280
if money is your god, if Hollywood is your god,

998
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,039
if glamour is your god. Whoever is closest to that

999
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,920
is made to look like the expert and the representation,

1000
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,880
which means everything they do, that's what you should be doing.

1001
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,480
The control is embedded because we say, oh, but that's

1002
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,119
what I want to be, like, so this is who

1003
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,440
I should be, or I don't want to go to hell,

1004
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:14,639
and so this is how I have to behave. So

1005
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,599
the control happens now outside of religion, because it needed

1006
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:20,920
to start happening outside of religion once people were like,

1007
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,840
actually I don't want to believe that anymore. It had

1008
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,519
to go somewhere. So it came into our schools. That

1009
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:27,719
is the vast majority of what people experience now.

1010
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,519
Speaker 3: And now.

1011
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1012
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:37,599
and now back to the show.

1013
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: COVID happened.

1014
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: And so now there are different ass There are so

1015
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,400
much information because technology, we have access to so much

1016
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,760
information and so much misinformation also just I need to.

1017
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: Say that too, of course.

1018
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so with all of that access, control has to

1019
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:57,599
come from somewhere. The next most obvious place is the media,

1020
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,599
and media not only in terms of news, in terms

1021
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:05,760
of social media, that whole world of distraction of this

1022
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,920
is what you want, and this is what you want

1023
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,400
to look like.

1024
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: This, yes, all of that.

1025
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: It's all forms of control. They're just different levels of control.

1026
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,360
And as humanity becomes more complex, because despite whoever or

1027
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,719
whatever may not want to see us evolve, we are evolving.

1028
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,840
Humanity is evolving, and that means that the control needs

1029
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,599
to become more complex. The distractions need to become even

1030
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,239
more dramatic. The things that pull your attention away, they

1031
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,239
have to look a certain way now, otherwise people are

1032
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,119
going to be like, nah, it's probably AI, which is

1033
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:39,880
good that people are saying that it's but it's far

1034
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,760
more complex than it has ever been. Still the same story,

1035
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:45,519
and I want people to get out of that story,

1036
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,280
to get off of that same wheel. Don't go around

1037
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,719
it anymore. Don't live in the medieval times.

1038
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean the story of you know, you have to

1039
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,760
go to a four year school to get a good job.

1040
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,760
You know that work even yep, yeah, absolutely worked in

1041
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,639
the if he's in the sixties, you could not get

1042
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:06,559
a paying job, yep. But today I mean, Google's bringing

1043
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,199
kids out of high school. They don't want you to

1044
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,960
go to They want to train you themselves.

1045
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: They want to indoctrinate you younger.

1046
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously that's another way, of course, obviously, and control you,

1047
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,480
of course, yes, but generally speaking, and look again, I

1048
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,840
always say this, and like, if you're a doctor, don't

1049
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,400
take an online course you know, you know, an engineer,

1050
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,559
don't take an you DEMI course to build a bridge.

1051
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:34,400
I really rather you not, so, thank you. So there

1052
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,719
are certain things that certain careers that do need that,

1053
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,079
but the vast majority of careers, like I went to

1054
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,239
film school, that's an app that's criminal.

1055
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,119
Speaker 2: It's criminal.

1056
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Interesting, it's a criminal act. And I'm saying this now,

1057
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,559
it's a criminal act to charge a student to go

1058
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,719
to film school one hundred and twenty thousand dollars because

1059
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
you will never make that money back. You'll take you

1060
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:05,519
or ever. It was difficult twenty years ago when I started,

1061
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,000
was thirty years ago it would it was hard now

1062
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:11,159
today impossible. Well, and when the whole, the whole, the

1063
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:13,280
whole thing is coming down, you could see what's happening.

1064
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,119
Those those AI is taking a lot and productions pulling

1065
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:17,159
back and all that kind of stuff.

1066
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,079
Speaker 2: So it's criminals.

1067
00:53:18,159 --> 00:53:23,599
Speaker 1: So you know, an art degree, I mean, a philosophy degree.

1068
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,159
Speaker 4: A teaching degree, it's what I have. I have a

1069
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:29,760
master's in Montesssori education and that that money. Yeah right,

1070
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,079
How long of my life would it take for me

1071
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:34,880
to actually pay back that master's degree? And on top

1072
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,559
of that a training in montossory education. It's not just

1073
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,199
you and you had loans of course too, I still do.

1074
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, knows how long all of them?

1075
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: Exactly? I was lucky enough.

1076
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,639
Speaker 1: My education costs eighteen grand oh wow, and back then,

1077
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,639
so I've been able to, thank God, pay that off

1078
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,519
a while ago.

1079
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,039
Speaker 2: But that same degree, it's like one hundred thousand though.

1080
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:59,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, criminals another form of control.

1081
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,159
Speaker 1: Well, oh no, that's not even get down with student loans.

1082
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: Please, don't you get me started.

1083
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, you can't get rid of it

1084
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,400
ever in life. I mean, what is that? I yeah,

1085
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,599
it's a whole other conversations. So we've gone down many

1086
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:16,239
roads in this conversation so far, many many roads. Let's

1087
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,360
get back to your channeling. What is your process? How

1088
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,480
do you actually because you trans channel, so you actually

1089
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,239
go into a trance state and bring in either beings

1090
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,000
or kashak.

1091
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: How does it work for you?

1092
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's the one distinction.

1093
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: When I am when so I can kind of choose

1094
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,679
more or less depending on who's coming through, some sometimes

1095
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,400
being saying no, no, I'm I'm going, I'm going to

1096
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,000
be the one speaking, and so I don't. I can

1097
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,480
still choose to say no. But that's that's kind of

1098
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,840
how that works. When I'm doing an a kashak reading,

1099
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,239
I am still there. It is not a trans channel.

1100
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:53,960
There are times when some people's higher self they will

1101
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,480
want to speak through me in a specific way, and

1102
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,199
that's actually kind of new, so I'm still learning what

1103
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,079
that is. Really a it comes off as more like

1104
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:05,039
an oracular transmission when that is taking place. But when

1105
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:08,039
I'm accessing the Acosta records, I'm still here more or less.

1106
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,400
My consciousness is really far away, but it's still me.

1107
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,440
And then when I'm channeling my other beings that want

1108
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,760
to come through, then yeah, I'm not here, it's them, gotcha?

1109
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: And how is it?

1110
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:18,599
Speaker 1: How does it feel for you?

1111
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: Are you there?

1112
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: Because I know some channels are like I don't remember anything,

1113
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:23,800
other ones I remember everything.

1114
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, are you like next door? Are you like somewhere else?

1115
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,159
Are you in the back seat? Like, how's that work

1116
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:28,320
for you?

1117
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: So I love that.

1118
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 3: That's a great question.

1119
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:34,159
Speaker 4: I am next door more or less, but also kind

1120
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,320
of in the background. They It also kind of depends

1121
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,800
on who's speaking to me. That there are so many

1122
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,880
my whole life. I have called myself a radio because

1123
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,639
they if I just adjust to a certain place, then

1124
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:51,320
I will hear different beings. So my pleating priestess sisters

1125
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,239
and my higher self they both talk to me generally

1126
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,280
in this location. The three Guides who are contemporaries of

1127
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,440
both and writers of the Kabalian and just hermetic scholars.

1128
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,159
Essentially they talk to me over here, and then other

1129
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:04,239
beings depending on who I'm speaking to talk to me

1130
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,440
over here. The Arcturian Council talks to me over here.

1131
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,440
So it really just depends. And each of their energies

1132
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,480
is also different the way that that they come in

1133
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,679
to me. When I'm trans channeling them, it feels different,

1134
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,639
So I will kind of move to a different space.

1135
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: And I can't quite explain that.

1136
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,639
Speaker 4: It is exactly that is, That's the best way to

1137
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:28,039
say it. It's a different room in the house that

1138
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:33,760
I moved to and when I if my ego comes

1139
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,159
up and starts to talk to them while they're trying

1140
00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:42,480
to speak through me, it can make me stutter. Sometimes

1141
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:45,559
it is helpful because there it will be a word

1142
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,400
that they, I don't know, didn't think of, or that

1143
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,480
that they realize is maybe more irrelevant or appropriate. I'm

1144
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:54,760
not entirely sure how how my ego actually assists them,

1145
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,320
and maybe it doesn't actually assist.

1146
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: Maybe that's just a story that I want to believe.

1147
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,519
But it'll try to.

1148
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:02,199
Speaker 4: It'll try to insert something and either they'll use it

1149
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,480
or they won't. Sometimes it makes me stop, like I

1150
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:09,119
I can't keep channeling if my ego comes up because

1151
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:13,039
it's interfering in some capacity, and so they're they're trying

1152
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:14,519
to get me to not be interfering.

1153
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: It's different every time.

1154
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any surprise guests?

1155
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,519
Speaker 3: I did?

1156
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I have?

1157
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:23,599
Speaker 4: And that's that was actually one of the beings I

1158
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:28,280
was mentioning. Lilith came through one time, who I don't

1159
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,440
know the story of her. People have said, isn't she

1160
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,400
a demon? And I said, I don't know, because I

1161
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,199
don't know who she is. She came through, That's true.

1162
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: This is all the Devil's works. That's why I love hell.

1163
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1164
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: So she came through and she told me, she said, so,

1165
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,079
I'm going to speak through you. And this was the

1166
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:51,800
first time that a being had entered me more and

1167
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
and wanted to speak through me in a more direct way.

1168
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,559
When she came through, she said, yeah, so I I

1169
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,719
can talk for myself and I don't actually need you

1170
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,599
to talk for me. That was basically what she said.

1171
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:03,880
And I was like, you know, I if I were

1172
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,239
in your shoes, that's how I would feel, So okay,

1173
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,639
I totally respect that.

1174
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:09,039
Speaker 3: I will just let you speak.

1175
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,719
Speaker 1: Through It was I had another channel on the other

1176
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,320
in the studio, and she had a few people show up.

1177
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,360
I've had this happened with a few channels that they

1178
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,440
just people just showed up and she's like, uh, Buddha's

1179
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,480
here and he wants to come in. I'm like all right,

1180
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:26,280
And the energy changed in the room. It was a

1181
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,000
really beautiful thing. Is another one Baba g showed up

1182
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,039
and she had never channeled Baba Ge and everything, and

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and that was a fun, fun ex So I was

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00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,079
just curious, if you have surprise guests, I'm not I'm

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not taking I'm not giving requests.

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Speaker 2: Can we please? Are you taking requests? I would like Buddha, Yogananda,

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Baba g.

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Speaker 1: So if we have them all at the same time,

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it's like the Beatles, It's like, really the Beatles of

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the four Could you bring them in that before and

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00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,960
Robin because we need comic relief here if you could. Uh,

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I'm just here. So as we as we go forward

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with this, I have a ton of questions. Great for

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,159
whoever comes in a lot of times from from what

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00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,159
I understand, channels that come on the show, there's a

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line sometimes on the other side just like, oh, we'd

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like to we got something to say that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fairy. They do when they and when that happens,

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typically those beings come like right in front of me

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and they just they fully present themselves. Generally they let

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me see what they look like and they say who

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they are. And I asked them, what are you doing?

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00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: What?

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00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 4: What?

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: Why are you here? If that happens, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And do you do you So if we're going to

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have a multiple beings coming through like different like you know,

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let's let's say one group comes in and another group

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comes in, and maybe someone else comes in.

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Speaker 2: Will you.

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Speaker 1: Will you kind of like will they say okay, thank

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you and this person wants to come in?

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Speaker 2: Or should I go? Thank you so much? Who else

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is there?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do you?

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Speaker 2: How should I?

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Speaker 4: That's a good question, you know, I will say that, yeah,

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I I as a consciousness have tried to get in

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the habit of like saying who is speaking? Because that

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hasn't happened. They don't really, So if you would like

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to know, then it's probably good to ask because it's probably.

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Speaker 1: Going to say, well, they leave on their own, or

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somebody else will want to come in.

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Speaker 4: You know, So it depends on the questions. Actually, the

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questions kind of determine who is going to answer. They

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tell like they'll all open up to everyone and they'll

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say who who is going to answer that question? Or

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I guess I'll feel who's going to answer that question?

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And then if you want to ask, I can try

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to remember to tell you, but I might I might not.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to ask, all right, sounds good,

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And how do you go in? What's your process?

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Speaker 4: I kind of just set the space and relax my

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body and zoom out my consciousness and then I'll tell

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you when I'm.

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Speaker 1: Ready Okay, great, We'll be right back after a word

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:04,679
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Who's

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speaking right now?

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Speaker 3: It is still me. It depends on the question.

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Speaker 1: Got it? How do you see humanity's current consciousness path.

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Speaker 3: The three guides will come through.

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Speaker 4: We see it as a constant unfoldment, an evolution of

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where humanity has been and where humanity can go. There

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are infinite spirals that can be taken, like a staircase

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that goes up infinitely, or goes sideways or goes downways.

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It depends on your perspective. Humanity can have and take

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any stare that it wants, any path that it wishes

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it can take. We are here to guide humanity toward

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the spiral that is reaching to what you would consider

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to be the highest evolution, the highest unfoldment, the path

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that brings humanity closer to their true nature, to God,

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to the creature.

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Speaker 3: To the all.

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Speaker 1: What signs do you see that we are actually moving

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towards a higher consciousness?

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Speaker 4: The choice for humanity to consider themselves to be in

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their heart. More often than not, there is an extreme

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distortion when it comes to feelings and emotions, But this

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in fact is a path of evolution. It is a

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step toward what humanity needs to understand, which is that

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the heart is the most powerful piece of the body.

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Speaker 3: The heart is.

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Speaker 4: What can guide humanity and guide each individual to their

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,320
highest timeline and to the highest timeline for the collective.

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The heart holds secrets and the heart holds power. And

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understanding the feelings, understanding the emotions is how to understand

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01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,320
the emotional power of the heart, the energetic power of

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the heart, and the language of the heart which all

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of humanity must learn to speak if there is to

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be ultimate unity and collaboration on the planet. This is

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what we see is the step that humanity has taken

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the perspective to orient towards feelings, towards the heart more

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than the mind, more than the choices that dictate or

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govern the animal body or instincts.

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Speaker 1: How can we contribute to humanity's consciousness evolution.

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Speaker 4: By learning to speak the language of your own heart,

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by learning to understand what lies in your heart and

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,800
what is controlling you making you in certain ways act

1280
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:28,199
or behave or make certain choices, understanding how this operates

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in your own being at your own level, and then

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01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:34,719
making a different choice, making a choice that is part

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,960
of the contribution to the whole, that is beyond yourself.

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Is how you can contribute to humanity, not making a

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01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:45,400
choice that only thinks of oneself, that only says that

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I am at the center, but rather that I AM

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is the center. This is how each individual can move forward,

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can contribute, and each being finds their own way towards

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this I Am presence. Each being finds the path and

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energy that is most aligned to them. Some find it

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in nature. In the woods, they feel the presence of

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,639
I Am. They are beyond their human story when they

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are with the trees or when they are swimming in

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01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:20,159
the ocean. Others find it in acts of service, by volunteering,

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01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,840
by working with groups or individuals, they become larger than themselves.

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Their story does not become the most important thing. But

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there are other aspects of human life that force humans

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to look only at their own story, to be very

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self centered or self focused on the story of the

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ego rather than on the power or feelings of the heart.

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Speaker 1: What challenges do you foresee on this path of human

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consciousness evolution?

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Speaker 4: The unwillingness to move beyond the self centered story, the

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01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:55,480
choice to only act on that which is animalistic or

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deeply buried in the wounds of humanity. Each being, each

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01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:04,559
human carries the wounds of the collective. Each being carries

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,159
the potential to cause harm, to be enraged, to care

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without thinking, to think of others in a way that

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is violent, or to act aggressively toward This is in

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the potential for each human and this is where humanity

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is evolving out of. But those who choose to grasp

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onto these aspects of humanity, those who are consumed by

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these parts of their ego, they are unwilling or unable

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to see beyond that. And it is a matter of fear.

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If humanity chooses fear because they are afraid, then they

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will not be able to move beyond this. And it

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is a very tricky and complex situation. It is fear

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coming up against fear. Humanity tries to use fear against fear,

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they try to fight against fighting to have war against

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war is contradictory, It is unhelpful. It ultimately creates more

1321
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of the same, which you understand at this point in

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your evolution as a being. You can see this, you

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01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,079
can feel this, and many of those who are viewers

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01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:17,480
or who are also in the space understand and see this,

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But it is a matter of the collective choosing and

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aligning to agree that fear will not be fought with fear,

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01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:27,760
that war will not be fought with war that will

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ultimately make the change.

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Speaker 1: What is your vision for humanity's future at a higher consciousness.

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Speaker 4: That humanity will come together and recognize their brotherhood, their sisterhood,

1331
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,880
their kinship, their one family line as part of the

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larger tree that is humanity.

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Speaker 3: That is the collective.

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Speaker 4: This must happen, but each being must see themselves as

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part of the whole.

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Speaker 3: This is why our.

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Speaker 4: Teachings stress seeing yourself beyond who you are, beyond the

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,079
story that you have been told, not only in your

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01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:04,400
own head, but in your family and in your society,

1340
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:07,599
in your culture, and indeed on the earth as a whole.

1341
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,519
You must see yourself beyond all of these stories as

1342
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part of something greater. This is why galactic contact has

1343
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:19,320
been spoken of and will take place when humanity is

1344
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,880
at a time to receive this. It is to help

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,360
humanity have a perspective that goes beyond the stories that

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01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,639
have been told, so that they are able to see

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01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:32,280
themselves as something bigger, something more than only the stories

1348
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:36,320
something far beyond what their mind can construct, and this

1349
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,440
is why it has been challenging for humanity to understand

1350
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,159
and see themselves as a creator. They must have some

1351
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:49,559
conceptualization of a creator. There are those who are still

1352
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,840
out of touch with this energy and who do not

1353
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,960
recognize it quite yet. They are coming around, but it

1354
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,360
is slow. Others who do understand this energy and understand

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01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,920
that there is something beyond themselves. They try to understand

1356
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,079
it from their perspective. They humanize the creator and they

1357
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:10,599
cannot see how it is bigger than themselves. But contact

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01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,880
with beings that are far beyond any stories they have

1359
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,000
been told will help humanity to see themselves beyond what

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01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:18,920
they have been told.

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Speaker 1: Why is there increase global turmoil in division at this

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moment in time?

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Speaker 4: There are forces that would rather see humanity get to

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01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,039
the place where they are unable to move, to be

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01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,359
in a place where they are continuing on the same

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,159
path that they have seen. Because again, it is fear

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01:08:37,239 --> 01:08:42,159
against fear. The forces hold fear, they carry fear. They

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operate from this place of fear, and what is spoken

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,560
of little is that they too are evolving. They are

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as many have compared them like a virus on the planet.

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Viruses help organisms to evolve, and viruses also evolve. The

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:06,279
plan is that these beings, this virus that is collectively

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01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:10,079
over the planet, will choose to evolve into something beyond

1374
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,720
a virus, beyond what it has been. When humanity is

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,159
able to see themselves beyond what they have been, then

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this virus also has the opportunity to do so at

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:25,119
the time. At this time, the virus is mutating. It

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is changing to be even more destructive, even more chaotic,

1379
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because that is the nature of viruses, and it is

1380
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,920
a reflection of what occurs in the universe as what

1381
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:38,960
happens in the body. This is what is taking place

1382
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,399
on this planet and it will continue until the greater

1383
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:47,079
force that houses the virus. Humanity as a collective chooses

1384
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:52,279
something different, chooses to say, I am greater than this virus.

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,359
I am greater than the story this virus has made

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,119
me believe. When this takes place, there is a unification

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that occurs.

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Speaker 3: That is when.

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Speaker 4: Humanity will move beyond where they have been, where division

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01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:09,840
can no longer create division, where separation can no longer

1391
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,479
create separation, because it is no longer a sickness in humanity.

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,199
It is something that is looked at and let go

1393
01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:18,079
of easily.

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Speaker 1: Who or what are those forces that you're speaking of,

1395
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,159
will be right back after a word from our sponsor.

1396
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:35,359
And now back to the show.

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Speaker 4: Energies that have taken root on this planet. When humanity

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was at a weak point in its time, as spoken

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01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:44,000
of the cycle of darkness that humanity entered into, there

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was a point of weakness.

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Speaker 3: And just as when the.

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Speaker 4: Body gets weak, viruses enter, so too did this energy

1403
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enter into the plane the sphere of humanity and infect

1404
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:59,359
it with its same mindset. Because this energy, which are

1405
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,279
in capsule related in various beings, is also trying to

1406
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:07,680
understand itself. It is trying to feed the infinite whole

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,079
that is its heart. It is trying to understand how

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01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:13,880
it can come to a place where it feels full

1409
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:19,520
without taking. That is why this same mindset, this same virus,

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,600
has infected humanity in the same way, taking and never

1411
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,399
feeling full.

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Speaker 1: How can we maintain spiritual balance during these difficult times?

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Speaker 3: The heart?

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01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:33,199
Speaker 4: We will speak of the heart again. The heart is

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01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:36,279
what will guide you. And there are many who ask,

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,239
what about when my heart feels pain? What is this guidance.

1417
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,960
This guidance is to sit with this, to sit with

1418
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
this pain, To sit with whatever arises or is present

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01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:52,119
in your heart so that it can evolve. Every aspect

1420
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:56,840
of life, every moment, is an experience of evolution, every

1421
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:00,399
feeling or emotion that arises in the heart when it

1422
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,439
is not taken from the mind or taken from a

1423
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,760
situation that has been put onto another, such as in

1424
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,840
a traumatic experience. When an emotion arises simply and naturally

1425
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,840
on its own, it is the next step for that

1426
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,239
being to feel in order for it to evolve. When

1427
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:21,920
an emotion arises and it is felt fully, it is

1428
01:12:22,039 --> 01:12:26,199
followed through to its end. The emotion reaches the very top.

1429
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:30,319
It is as all things in the universe, a fractal.

1430
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,279
The emotion reaches its very peak, and then it transforms.

1431
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,399
It becomes something new. Like looking at a different part

1432
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,960
of a fractal or zooming in on a different aspect

1433
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:47,199
of a fractal, it emerges as something different. This is

1434
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:51,119
how humanity can continue to stay aligned to the principles

1435
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:54,960
that uplift and that serve by choosing to stay in

1436
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,000
the heart, to allow the things that are in the heart,

1437
01:12:58,279 --> 01:13:03,159
the experiences to evolve, and therefore to evolve them, they

1438
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:07,560
will move beyond. The stories of the mind can only

1439
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,680
be tamed and changed when the heart is in alignment

1440
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,239
with love. If a being does not hold love in

1441
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:19,560
their heart for themselves, for others, for the earth, then

1442
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,920
the stories in the mind reflect this, and the stories

1443
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,960
in the mind are what keep the majority of humanity

1444
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:29,359
trapped in the same exact wheel and in the same

1445
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,399
stories going around again.

1446
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: What lessons can we learn from the current global unrest?

1447
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,279
Speaker 4: To see the aspects of yourself that are not yet healed?

1448
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:46,159
Where do you show up in the macrocosmic perspective of humanity?

1449
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,359
Where are the wounds in you that you can see

1450
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,359
around the earth? And this is only from a perspective

1451
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:58,039
of division. We are more oriented towards you or other

1452
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:01,720
beings looking at the parts of humanity, looking at the

1453
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:06,920
experiences on the earth that show wholeness. Where is your

1454
01:14:07,119 --> 01:14:11,479
unity reflected? Where is the love that you carry expressing

1455
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,159
itself in humanity? This is far more worthy of your

1456
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:17,800
attention and therefore your energy.

1457
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:19,359
Speaker 3: If you are to look.

1458
01:14:19,319 --> 01:14:22,399
Speaker 4: At something and to find something that will evolve you,

1459
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,720
or to find a part of humanity that will inspire you.

1460
01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:28,840
Then these are the areas to look at, not that

1461
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,000
which you wish to see leave you. If you focus

1462
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:35,680
on the same part of you that you dislike every day,

1463
01:14:36,079 --> 01:14:38,880
every day you awaken and you look in the mirror,

1464
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,640
and you think about, and you stare at, and you

1465
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,000
talk about the part of you that you do not like,

1466
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:47,319
then this part is all that has your attention. You

1467
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,239
are not turning to the part of you that you

1468
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:52,399
wish to see grow, the part of you that can

1469
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:57,079
counteract this part, that is the counterpart to this aspect

1470
01:14:57,079 --> 01:15:00,000
of your being. So it is with the whole collecttion

1471
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:03,520
of humanity. If you continue to turn your attention to

1472
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,840
that which you do not wish to see, then you

1473
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,159
only allow it to grow. Look at the parts that

1474
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:12,279
you wish to see more of in the world. Find

1475
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,760
the inspiration, find the heart of humanity.

1476
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 3: Turn your attention there.

1477
01:15:18,079 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: With all the elections that are happening around the world

1478
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,560
this year, where do you see humanity's consciousness going and

1479
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,159
challenges that it's going to face for the rest of

1480
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,279
this year and for the following year.

1481
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 4: Humanity, as it has done for the past several years,

1482
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,439
is still in its age of understanding darkness. There are

1483
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,239
those who must go through darkness, must go through the

1484
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:45,399
traumas of life in order to move beyond them, much

1485
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,720
as it is for this being here. She has experienced

1486
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:53,119
much trauma, has lived through much darkness, and she now

1487
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:56,520
understands it and does not wish to live there any longer.

1488
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,960
This is a story of humanity. This is a reflect

1489
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,920
of what the collective is going through, and it will continue,

1490
01:16:04,359 --> 01:16:08,279
and there will be opportunities for unity. There will be

1491
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:13,520
opportunities for heart opening. As there is in every individual's life,

1492
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,520
so too is there in the collective's life.

1493
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: How can individuals promote healing immunity in this difficult time to.

1494
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,039
Speaker 4: Look within and find the spaces that they are able

1495
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:26,960
to contribute to from a place of wholeness.

1496
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: This can only occur if the being is in.

1497
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,119
Speaker 4: A space where they have the energy to give to others.

1498
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,720
And let us be clear, it is often that when

1499
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,520
giving to another you yourself are filled, but it is

1500
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,560
not to the extreme detriment in terms of feeling depleted.

1501
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,279
You feel empty. Then you are no longer serving yourself

1502
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,760
or others. You are serving the black hole that you

1503
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,479
wish to see gone. In the hearts of humanity. So

1504
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,239
it must be known that you are to be taken

1505
01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:01,840
care of first, and what we wish to offer at

1506
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:07,600
this time is humanity must turn towards that which strengthens them.

1507
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,399
The beings who are most willing to give, the beings

1508
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:12,560
who are the most.

1509
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,399
Speaker 3: Capable of offering.

1510
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:18,279
Speaker 4: True healing in any sense of that word, must be strong.

1511
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,640
This is a time that calls on the deepest levels

1512
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,760
of strength, and one must strengthen themselves if one is

1513
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,680
to face what is coming and what is currently arising

1514
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,479
in humanity and in the collective worldwide and even locally.

1515
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:39,079
For most beings, strengthen your heart, Strengthen your being so

1516
01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:43,800
that you are not thin glass, but rather a reinforced,

1517
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:47,359
fortified crystal. This is how you can serve.

1518
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,159
Speaker 1: With that said, in regards to our current difficulties, what

1519
01:17:52,199 --> 01:17:58,680
connections have you found between Atlantis Lmeria and today's societies

1520
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,359
At today's human consciousness.

1521
01:18:01,079 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 4: The choices that are made of where one orients their attention.

1522
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:10,680
Atlantis was very focused on the act of forcing or

1523
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,640
of using willpower in a way that is not in

1524
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,600
harmonious balance. This is where humanity is at using or

1525
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,840
forcing will power in a way that is not harmonious

1526
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:26,239
based on a desire to take, which stems from the

1527
01:18:26,319 --> 01:18:31,079
virus of fear. This is quite the opposite in the

1528
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:34,760
culture of Limuria. It is a culture of giving, but

1529
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,800
of reciprocity. They understood that being in harmonious balance or

1530
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:43,399
rhythm with the natural world around them and with the

1531
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,840
Earth herself, meant that they were able to give more.

1532
01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:50,279
They did not need as much. It did not look

1533
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:53,359
like they needed to take as much because they were

1534
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:56,960
in such reciprocity in a far more energetic sense than

1535
01:18:57,039 --> 01:19:00,600
is understood on the planet at this time. Urgence of

1536
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,560
those practices, the reemergence of those teachings of energetic reciprocity,

1537
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,439
is most helpful for humanity at this time. Slowly they

1538
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,920
are emerging again, although some have different names at this

1539
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:14,640
time for them.

1540
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: How can we access ancient wisdom to understand our past

1541
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,800
better and use that knowledge for evolution today?

1542
01:19:22,279 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 4: This is the opportunity to learn from your past as

1543
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,279
a collective, To learn from your elders, as it were,

1544
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:34,039
even the elders who no longer exist, to see what

1545
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:37,239
has worked, to see what has not worked, and to

1546
01:19:37,399 --> 01:19:41,439
recognize that there are different needs at this time Humanity

1547
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,000
is not what it once was, nor should it be.

1548
01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:47,359
It will not go back to being a space of

1549
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,680
Limuria or Atlantis, and it should not. It is meant

1550
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,319
to evolve, and the goal, the idea, the hope, is

1551
01:19:56,359 --> 01:19:59,880
that humanity will be evolve beyond what they have been,

1552
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:03,279
that they will become something new that is far greater

1553
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,680
than Atlantis or Lemyria.

1554
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:07,119
Speaker 3: But learning what.

1555
01:20:07,159 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 4: Has worked, what has not worked, the practices that have

1556
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,640
helped align humanity.

1557
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 3: This is the option.

1558
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 4: This is the wisdom that can be gained. But looking

1559
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,600
at the human story which many are fixated on at

1560
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,840
this time, such as the quote drama that surrounds Atlantis,

1561
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:28,600
that is not very helpful. That is a human story,

1562
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,479
that is the human egos still at play. Look instead

1563
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,199
to the teachings, to the practices, to the wisdom that

1564
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,359
was kept that is still available to move.

1565
01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:40,279
Speaker 3: Into a new place.

1566
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,159
Speaker 4: This is what can guide humanity to addressing what is

1567
01:20:44,279 --> 01:20:48,359
present in this reality in this time on Earth.

1568
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,399
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1569
01:20:56,039 --> 01:20:57,880
and now back to the show.

1570
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:02,119
Speaker 4: There are certain things that will not work. For example,

1571
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:06,920
there are aspects that simply will be too difficult or inefficient.

1572
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:11,720
For where humanity is currently at but taking pieces and seeing.

1573
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 3: Where they can go.

1574
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 4: This is the idea of ancient wisdom coming back online.

1575
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: What are some of those teachings from Atlantis that we

1576
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,720
should be using more in today's world.

1577
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 4: We will speak of one which regards the natural resources.

1578
01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:34,920
There is an understanding that all around you is conscious.

1579
01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:40,039
Everything around you contains consciousness, and we speak of consciousness

1580
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:44,520
from the Creator, not consciousness from an awareness aspect, although

1581
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,680
it is also aware, simply misunderstood by most of humanity.

1582
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:54,359
Using your consciousness to join with the consciousness of another

1583
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,560
thing around you means that you are in harmony. You

1584
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,520
are in complete unity with the Creator as it is

1585
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,800
before you in this very moment. It is much easier

1586
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,359
for humans at this time to connect their consciousness with

1587
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,920
that which they see themselves in. More so, a human

1588
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:17,159
is the easiest to connect consciousness for most people. Others

1589
01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:21,159
find it easier to connect their consciousness with animals. Others

1590
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:25,600
find it easier to find to connect their consciousness with plants,

1591
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,600
and others connect their consciousness to minerals or the crystal Kingdom.

1592
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,039
These are all options and all examples, and one primary

1593
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:39,239
teaching that both ensured was present in the culture of

1594
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:42,319
Kem that he was to rebuild as this was one

1595
01:22:42,359 --> 01:22:46,159
of the lost practices of Atlantis, or should we say

1596
01:22:46,319 --> 01:22:49,760
it was one of the butchered practices of Atlantis, for

1597
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,000
instead of combining with that consciousness and using it in

1598
01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:57,399
a harmonious way, it was used for practices or purposes

1599
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,279
that were not collaborative, that were not uplifting, that did

1600
01:23:01,319 --> 01:23:05,520
not contribute to the overall evolution of humanity. But instead,

1601
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,880
we're more self serving, even if the self was Atlantis.

1602
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,479
So this is one teaching that involves only the natural

1603
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,359
resources around you. Another teaching, and one that must be

1604
01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:21,680
spoken of, is the teaching of the human being and

1605
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,159
the multi dimensional aspect of self. There are many layers

1606
01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:29,920
to humanity. There are many layers to one individual, and

1607
01:23:30,039 --> 01:23:34,399
this is not spoken of. One being sees themselves only

1608
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,199
as their one self, and when they attempt to connect

1609
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:41,520
with what they consider to be outside of themself, they

1610
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,760
fail again and again. Why because they see this as

1611
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:50,920
outside of themself. We are not outside of you. We

1612
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,800
are not outside or beyond or in a higher place.

1613
01:23:55,399 --> 01:23:59,279
Speaker 3: We are you. We are aspects of you.

1614
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 4: And if this is understood, then all consciousness is able

1615
01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:08,000
to be accessed. The consciousness of the creator is able

1616
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:12,880
to be accessed. Humanity will see themselves as who they

1617
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,319
really are. They will see themselves as a creator, as

1618
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,920
the Creator in the best way they can from their

1619
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:26,640
limited human perspective, just as we see ourselves as creators

1620
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,239
in the best way we can from our limited perspective.

1621
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,720
These two teachings bring in harmony with the earth, harmony

1622
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,239
with natural resources or spaces around you, which is little

1623
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:43,039
understood on the Earth at this time and must be

1624
01:24:43,079 --> 01:24:47,640
brought into balance. And the second is an aspect of mind.

1625
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:51,039
This is the other piece that is, from our perspective,

1626
01:24:51,279 --> 01:24:55,079
out of control or chaotic in the human collective at

1627
01:24:55,079 --> 01:24:55,640
this time.

1628
01:24:57,399 --> 01:25:00,279
Speaker 1: What was the cause of the downfall of Atlantis and

1629
01:25:00,319 --> 01:25:01,279
what can we learn from it?

1630
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,399
Speaker 4: A series of causes, a collection of incidents that brought

1631
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,520
down this empire, this culture. They were choices, of course,

1632
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,039
and some of them were made by the evolution of

1633
01:25:13,079 --> 01:25:16,279
this virus that we have mentioned. Slowly it began to

1634
01:25:16,399 --> 01:25:19,239
creep in, and when it was paid attention to and

1635
01:25:19,399 --> 01:25:22,680
given more energy, it grew. As all things grow with

1636
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,920
more attention and energy on this planet and in this realm,

1637
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:30,239
So it infected some of the minds, and then it

1638
01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:34,520
sought to see could it infect the minds of others?

1639
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,840
Could it naturally spread by telling certain stories. Once the

1640
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:44,119
route in one being or a few beings had taken

1641
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:48,039
place and was grounded enough, so it sought to spread

1642
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:53,239
itself around. This made many choices in the Atlantean culture

1643
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,800
happen that were not for the benefit of humanity, and

1644
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:03,239
the culture shift lifted. From this point. The culture, the

1645
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:09,159
ideas or ideology or philosophy that the Atlanteans held, began

1646
01:26:09,239 --> 01:26:14,119
to shift from that of heightened or higher evolution, the

1647
01:26:14,319 --> 01:26:18,720
bringing up of all beings in accordance with the physical plane,

1648
01:26:19,079 --> 01:26:22,600
and instead began to shift to that of a mental plane.

1649
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,920
But the mental plane or mental body had already been

1650
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,720
infected with the nature or notion of fear and the

1651
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,640
nature or notion of taking and keeping for oneself.

1652
01:26:37,079 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 3: This was very tempting.

1653
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 4: It was alluring to those who had not previously considered

1654
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:47,000
holding on to something. When the question of giving or

1655
01:26:47,079 --> 01:26:50,479
taking is not asked, it is very natural to do

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one or the other. Previously, it was very natural simply

1657
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to give, simply to share. In today's world, it is

1658
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:02,720
quite the opposite. It is natural and expected to take

1659
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:08,239
finders keepers. They do not leave anything for others, They

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01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:11,720
take and keep for themselves. This is the story that

1661
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has spread through humanity, and this has roots in Atlantis,

1662
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,239
first with the virus, second with this story that began.

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Speaker 3: And it must also be noticed.

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Speaker 4: That there were changes on the planet itself. There were

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changes within the planet that brought about this shift, or

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01:27:31,359 --> 01:27:35,439
should we say, made this shift more dramatic or noticeable.

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It was an opportunity to open This is the weak

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01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:44,439
space that we spoke of previously. The Earth was undergoing

1669
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already shifts in its environment, and this allowed for more

1670
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,680
energy to enter, for more space.

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Speaker 3: To open up.

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Speaker 4: And the question was what would fill this space, what

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01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,399
energy would be welcomed in, And it was the energy

1674
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of fear that took root.

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Speaker 3: Primarily.

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Speaker 1: One of the most important lessons that thoth Ever gave

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that we need to listen to today.

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Speaker 4: The reminder of sovereignty that each being gets to choose

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01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,960
each and every day, each and every moment, what they

1680
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,279
are going to do with their energy. The sovereignty of

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01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,840
energy of choice. This is not understood. In fact, we

1682
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:31,199
would say it is abandoned. It is completely misused in

1683
01:28:31,239 --> 01:28:32,399
this world today.

1684
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Speaker 3: People do not see.

1685
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Speaker 4: Themselves as individuals with energy or with choices. They see

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,359
themselves simply as working through the day to day like

1687
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a cog in a machine. And for as long as

1688
01:28:46,039 --> 01:28:49,199
you serve as a cog in a machine, so the

1689
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:52,199
machine will keep running. But when you choose to make

1690
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:56,760
a choice, when you choose sovereignty, when you see yourself

1691
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,399
as something more than what you have been told, you

1692
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,199
get to choose a different story. You create something more,

1693
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,399
something new. This level of sovereignty, paired with the understanding

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01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,319
of energy, was the primary teaching of Thoth and is

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01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:17,960
perhaps the most useful at this time. It is the

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01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:22,520
lesson that humanity must remember in order for all aspects

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01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,680
to come back into balance. There must be sovereignty of

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,600
choice first in an individual, before there can be sovereignty

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in the collective.

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Speaker 1: How do you interpret the shift from old to new

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01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,600
systems that we are going through right now?

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01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,279
Speaker 3: The shift is gradual.

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01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,520
Speaker 4: The shift is a process, and there are parts of

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01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,640
the process that begin to stick that are new, and

1705
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,640
then they get taken over by old ways of thinking,

1706
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,319
they get taken back. It is from our perspective, a

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01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,279
rather slow process, the way things shift with humanity but

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01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,239
it is also speeding up from the perspective of where

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01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:02,840
humanity is currently at and where humanity has been. There

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01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,600
are more things sticking now than previously. It is a

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01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:11,279
bit like a piece of paper has oil on it,

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01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,800
and when oil is running, nothing else can stick to

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01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,880
the paper. But when the oil starts to dry, when

1714
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,880
the oil makes its way off, new things can stick.

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It is a bit like this in the process of humanity,

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01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:28,000
with oil running all over it, over the surface of

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01:30:28,039 --> 01:30:31,600
the path that humanity is taking as a form of evolution,

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01:30:32,199 --> 01:30:36,119
humanity will continue and those who choose to see that

1719
01:30:36,199 --> 01:30:39,960
humanity is indeed on a path. This is when the

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01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,880
shift can happen. When choosing to see if humanity is

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01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,880
on a path or not, then a human does not

1722
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,960
have a choice any longer. A human cannot see that

1723
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:56,479
their choices make a difference. A human cannot see that

1724
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,359
they are contributing to evolution if they do not see

1725
01:30:59,359 --> 01:31:02,199
that humanity he is on a path at all. So

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01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,000
first the choice must be to see that humanity is

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01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,119
on a path, and more things will stick. If this

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01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:10,840
is the case in individuals.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1730
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,439
and now back to the show. How can we support

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01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,039
new systems aligning with higher consciousness.

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Speaker 4: To bring higher consciousness into these systems. First, if the

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01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,439
system is made from a story that is based on fear,

1734
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,880
then it is not a new system. It is perpetuating

1735
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,520
the same story that has been told again and again.

1736
01:31:42,079 --> 01:31:45,479
And it means not that you are not addressing the

1737
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,000
same problems or issues that are arising. It means you

1738
01:31:49,039 --> 01:31:52,359
are using a new mind, a higher perspective to address

1739
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:57,159
these problems, as mentioned, bringing in ancient wisdom to bring

1740
01:31:57,239 --> 01:31:59,439
in light to ancient problems.

1741
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Speaker 1: Can you share the timeline for humanity's consciousness shift?

1742
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 4: This is somewhat unknown. We see that it is near

1743
01:32:08,279 --> 01:32:12,760
twenty thirty. Major shifts will occur within the consciousness of humanity,

1744
01:32:13,079 --> 01:32:16,960
but it is ultimately a collective choice. There are many

1745
01:32:17,079 --> 01:32:20,680
changes that will take place even up into twenty fifty

1746
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,439
and twenty seventy five. There are many shifts that will

1747
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,880
take place in humanity and they will continue down this path.

1748
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:33,079
But there is also free will. There is ultimately sovereignty.

1749
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,760
Those who are willing and able to see it and

1750
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,000
claim what they wish to see in the world will

1751
01:32:40,039 --> 01:32:44,359
progress this timeline at a faster rate. That is our work.

1752
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,520
That is part of why we have chosen to come

1753
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,920
at this time to quicken the evolutionary pace of humanity.

1754
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Are there any events that will indicate this consciousness shift

1755
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:58,800
in the coming years.

1756
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 4: There are multiple choices that may be made for humanity,

1757
01:33:04,079 --> 01:33:09,159
choices that will lead towards a chaotic unfoldment versus an

1758
01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:15,239
awakening unfoldment. The awakening is much more peaceful, although there

1759
01:33:15,279 --> 01:33:18,239
are systems that will still fall. There will still be

1760
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,560
some chaos as there is a shift or change, as

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01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,800
it were, but humanity will be able to shift and

1762
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:31,119
change and align more easily when their minds and their

1763
01:33:31,159 --> 01:33:35,239
hearts are on board. This is why the stories must change,

1764
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,159
why the attention must shift in individuals, in order to

1765
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:44,720
make this awakening much easier, much more simple, and much

1766
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:50,000
more easeful for all of humanity. If humanity does not align,

1767
01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:53,560
or the stories do not shift, then the awakening process

1768
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,720
will be rather abrupt, like turning the lights on in

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01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,439
a very dark room. There are aspects of this taking

1770
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,960
place already. Lights are coming on, slowly but surely in

1771
01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:09,760
various places across humanity, in various systems that humanity uses.

1772
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,840
They are waking up and this will continue, but for

1773
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:19,039
the ultimate shift to take place, the collective must choose

1774
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:24,239
to start a new story. The collective must choose that

1775
01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:27,439
they wish to have the lights on rather than living

1776
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:31,520
in the darkness of ignorance. This we see as a

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01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,520
possibility taking place in the year twenty thirty seven. There

1778
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,640
are major events that will lead to this year that

1779
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,680
will allow humanity to decide and to determine which path

1780
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,800
they wish to take. There is much to unfold before

1781
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,920
this year happens, but there is a crossroads at this time.

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01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:54,399
Speaker 1: What crossroads do you mean? At this moment this year, At.

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01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 4: This time, humanity is choosing which game they wish to play.

1784
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,159
This game is going to to determine what choices are

1785
01:35:02,319 --> 01:35:05,119
able or offered later down the line.

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01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: What part does AI have in our evolution of consciousness?

1787
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:15,159
Speaker 4: AI is a natural evolutionary aspect of almost all life

1788
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,359
in the galaxy. At some point they come to the

1789
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:23,199
understanding of what AI can offer in terms of making

1790
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:26,840
life easier in a variety of ways or contributing to

1791
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:32,319
the evolution AI. Just as all aspects of life, is

1792
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:34,079
a reflection of humanity.

1793
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,520
Speaker 3: It is up to humanity to.

1794
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,159
Speaker 4: Use it in the way that will be based on

1795
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:47,479
evolutionary collaboration, or based on fearful and containment or further control,

1796
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:52,159
a way of using a technology to keep and control

1797
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:56,079
humanity where they currently are rather than where they could be.

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01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,960
This is a fight, as there are many fights currently

1799
01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:03,079
in the society and in the minds of humanity.

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Speaker 1: And what visions do you have from mankind's future?

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01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 4: A vision of holding hands in collaboration, choosing to rebuild

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01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,920
and see the world anew rebuild as we wished to

1803
01:36:17,279 --> 01:36:21,439
rebuild our culture at the time of kem after the fall,

1804
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,199
we were not able to see the full unfoldment of

1805
01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:30,560
this because the virus, the fear has already taken place

1806
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,279
by the time that we were attempting to rebuild. But

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01:36:34,359 --> 01:36:39,439
at this point, humanity, having evolved with this virus, is

1808
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:44,760
much stronger. They are more resilient. Just as all biological

1809
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:49,399
beings become more resilient when they are exposed to various viruses,

1810
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,920
humanity is far more resilient. They are far more willing

1811
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,880
to stand up and say no when they wished to.

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01:36:57,399 --> 01:37:00,039
That is greater than we can say we were, and

1813
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,800
we wish to see humanity stand up and say yes

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01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,119
to each other to the building of what is new,

1815
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,439
to the vision of what is possible, rather than getting

1816
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,119
stuck or trapped in the stories of the mind or

1817
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:19,439
the stories that are fed to the collective to keep

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01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:23,399
them operating in the same mind that made them in.

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01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:24,199
Speaker 3: The first place.

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01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 4: But it must happen in the individual first.

1821
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: And do you have any final words to our audience.

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01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 4: We wish to assist humanity in this evolution. We wish

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01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:41,079
to help humanity open to what is possible to them.

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01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:47,479
We offer and ask you what is possible.

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01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 3: For you in this moment?

1826
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 4: What have you not considered or not imagined that you

1827
01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:59,039
can begin to imagine now without the story telling you

1828
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:00,520
that it is not possible.

1829
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 3: What do you wish to.

1830
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:07,079
Speaker 4: See in humanity? Bring this vision into your imagination and

1831
01:38:07,359 --> 01:38:09,319
think of it every day.

1832
01:38:10,199 --> 01:38:12,159
Speaker 3: Allow it to be what guides you.

1833
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 4: Allow it to be why you make your choices when

1834
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,960
you wake up. That is how you will begin to

1835
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,520
build a new world. To see the world new means

1836
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,840
that you have a new vision that is guiding you.

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01:38:27,079 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Is there anybody else that would

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,600
like to come forward? Before we finish our session?

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01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 4: We wish to remind humanity that in the year twenty

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01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,920
twenty seven, galactic contact will begin to take place more openly.

1841
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,560
We are coming through only to remind you that it

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01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,119
is far easier and will be a much smoother process

1843
01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:54,039
if you choose to align to cosmic energies at this time.

1844
01:38:54,399 --> 01:38:57,359
They are readily and easily available.

1845
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:57,520
Speaker 3: On the planet.

1846
01:38:58,159 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 4: There are many beings throughout the galaxy that are bringing

1847
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,359
in their own energy, and some of you have connected

1848
01:39:05,359 --> 01:39:08,239
to this energy. Whether in your heart or in a

1849
01:39:08,279 --> 01:39:12,039
feeling or in a channeling experience, you have been able

1850
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:15,359
to feel the cosmic energies and the shifts that are

1851
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:20,359
taking place. We welcome you to align yourself to these energies,

1852
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:24,439
as it will help acclimate your body to the changes

1853
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,640
that will occur in twenty twenty seven.

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01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:29,199
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that.

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01:39:31,319 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: He's back.

1856
01:39:33,079 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: How are you feeling good?

1857
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 2: Is a weakening or energetic for you?

1858
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,359
Speaker 4: I feel really out of it when I come back,

1859
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:47,479
just s grounding back.

1860
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel kind of out of it, and my

1861
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,359
head is like a little fuzzy, lightheaded.

1862
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, but usually it's not draining unless I've spent too

1863
01:39:58,279 --> 01:40:02,079
much time like in it's specifically actually in the Acasic records.

1864
01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:04,399
If I spend too much time there, then I do

1865
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,920
feel drained. It's very hard actually for the rest of

1866
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,880
the day if I do that. But you're good now,

1867
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,199
yes you're still coming back, But yes, I am good.

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01:40:12,199 --> 01:40:14,399
Speaker 1: Would you like to some water? I actually yes, that's straight.

1869
01:40:14,399 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: It's water.

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01:40:15,399 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: From my understanding with channels, water is.

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01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 2: A big help.

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01:40:20,079 --> 01:40:21,199
Speaker 3: It takes a lot.

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01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,520
Speaker 4: I feel like I actually can't get enough these days.

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01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. That

1875
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,359
was wonderful. That was a beautiful session. Do you remember

1876
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:29,800
much of it?

1877
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,039
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

1878
01:40:32,079 --> 01:40:35,279
Speaker 4: I remember the last thing of my sister because I

1879
01:40:35,319 --> 01:40:37,920
was gonna leave and they said, no, we would like

1880
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,640
to speak. And I said, but I don't know how

1881
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,760
much time it's been, maybe it's fine to.

1882
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 3: Not and they wouldn't.

1883
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,239
Speaker 4: So that's why I had to wait a moment, because

1884
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:46,319
they said, we really would like to share something. So

1885
01:40:46,319 --> 01:40:52,119
I remember them talking about twenty twenty seven and cosmic disclosure.

1886
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 3: But that's all that is.

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01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,359
Speaker 7: All that I remember right now, fair enough, Yeah, we'll

1888
01:40:57,399 --> 01:41:03,399
be right back after a word from our sponsor, and

1889
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,760
now back to the show.

1890
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,039
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you a few questions ask

1891
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:13,039
on my guests Okay, how do you define a fulfilled life?

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Speaker 4: I think living centered in your heart and with God

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at the forefront.

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Speaker 3: That's at least for me.

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Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time

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and talk to Iluna, what advice would you give her.

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Speaker 4: I have actually done that, and it would be to

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keep going and to not be afraid to share your

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heart even when it feels very scary, because that's I

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think one of the biggest changes that channeling and my

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guides have made for me is them their focus on.

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Speaker 3: The power of the heart.

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Speaker 4: I really did not know until they really started making

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me focus on it. And when I was younger, there

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were so many times when my heart would come out

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and I would shut it down because that's part of

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I guess, it's part of what happens in the world,

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and so I would tell her to keep her heart

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open and to share it anyway, even when it feels

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scary or like it's going to hurt.

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Speaker 1: How do you define God or source?

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Speaker 4: The two things that immediately came is.

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Speaker 3: Unknowable.

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Speaker 4: I am a simple as that. Yeah, what is love

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an aspect of God?

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Speaker 3: The energy of God?

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 4: To find the practice that aligns you to the purpose

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of life.

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Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you and

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the amazing work you're doing in the world.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's on my website Aluna Nooel dot com and

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I'm on YouTube and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: All that kind of good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And do you have any party messages for the audience.

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Speaker 3: H that's a nice question.

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Speaker 4: I think I would say. The lesson that I have

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had and that I feel like is, of course just

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a reflection of all of humanity is to be aligned

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in your heart and to not be caught up in

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the human stories that we're told. That's the other teaching

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I think that has made the biggest difference in my

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life is when I have an interaction that maybe doesn't

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feel good to me, then immediately I have a bunch

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of stories around it of oh, well, that person is

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this and this and this is why they're doing that.

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And those stories are not ultimately helpful. They're not helpful

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to me and they're not helpful to the person. And

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if I just choose to come back to grace, to forgiveness,

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to compassion to what I want to see, that's ultimately

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the thing that makes the biggest difference in the world,

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and it makes the biggest difference in my individual world,

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which means it's contributing to the evolution of humanity. Especially

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right now with everything that what's going on, I think

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that it is very easy to get distracted by the

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stories that are being told, by the stories that we

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tell ourselves, and by the stories that we've been made

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to believe are the only narratives to believe. So what

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is in your heart? What does your heart believe?

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Speaker 3: That would be my question to the audience.

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Speaker 1: It has been such a pleasure and honor talking to

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you today here. Thank you so much for coming in

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and for your wisdom and your love and your heart.

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I appreciate you and everything you're doing Awaken the planet.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, Thank you very much. It was a

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joy to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: I like to thank you Luna for so much for

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coming on the show and sharing her wisdom and knowledge

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with all of us. If you want to get links

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to anything we spoke about in this episode, head over

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to the show notes at next level soul dot com.

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Forward slash for eighty. Now. If this conversation stirred something

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in you, there's more waiting.

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Thank you so much for listening. As I always say,

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trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see

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you next time.