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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paqua Whisper and the parent you

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can't read your network.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone. Today is really exciting. The stars have aligned

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because you are going to get the puquaj Whisper and

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one of the ghost whisperers. So hang tight and I

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will be right back with Don Martin. Don thank you

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for coming.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 2: It is my pleasure. So the reason I specifically reached

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out to you is because one of the things I'm

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passionate about is the history of locations and the history

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of the humans involved. And I know from what I've

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seen you do a great deal of work in regards

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to that.

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Speaker 3: I do when I go out to do an investigation.

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You normal investigations, you go in there so quick, you're

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in and out in a day, so you're only looking

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for your paranormal activity there. I have just expanded that,

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and I'll keep going back to a location because I

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want to know who the spirits are, who they were

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in their lifetime, what they did for a living, where

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they spend their days, and go and find their graves

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and try to bring them peace if I can also.

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So it's been a great mission for me and my

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team discovering the spirits and being able to tell their

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stories because I feel like a lot of them want that.

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They don't want to.

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Speaker 2: It seems like some people don't have too much of

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a purpose behind like ghost hunting. It kind of break

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people into like paranormal investigators in the ghost Hunters.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know some it's.

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Speaker 2: Views and maybe evidence even but other people really want

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to figure out some mysteries, like what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I love that part of it, and I have two

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locations that I work on doing that, but the one

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I go out to every two weeks and I'm leaving

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Michigan to drive to Indiana to continue doing my work

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for them. We don't get paid for what we do

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and never ask for money. I wouldn't take it or anything.

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It's just like such a deep passion, but to get

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a connection with the spirits of this place, because you know,

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they were people even though they lived in the early

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eighteen hundred, they're still here and they want to talk

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to you, but they want you to tell the right things.

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And I think when you're going into places and they're

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telling you get out and stuff like that, maybe because

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they're sick of us coming in and asking the same

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things and doing the same things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah can you knock? And yeah, that stuff is probably

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gets old after a while.

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Speaker 3: It's so repetitive, and I feel like people really don't

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think out of the box that much with it. And

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this was my thinking outside of the box way, and

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it helped us so much more, and we didn't realize

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how much it would affect us as a team, Like

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it became so passionate that we're putting in hard work

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where we're going to the historical societies and talking to

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people in the town, interviewing them and gathering all all

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this information about a location. But then you're finding out

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everything you can from ancestry, DNA to find a grave

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and doing this hard work to bring people their story

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because I feel like the people I found, I realized

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how important they were until I found them, and then

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I realized. So the place I'm speaking of is called

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the Haunted Brookston Masonic Lodge. That's what me and my

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team named it. With the owner, Matt, He's really nice

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guy to work with. He knew he had haunting. This

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building was built in eighteen fifty six over in Pittsburgh, Indiana.

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I'm sorry, eighteen forty eight in Pittsburgh, Indiana, and moved

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to Brookston in eighteen fifty six. This town was built

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around the lodge in this railroad that lays right out

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in front. Well, then we found out the first Masonic

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headmaster was so important. His name was Spencer Hart. He

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was the leading Masonic of the world at that time,

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longest serving Mason of eighty years. He filled every seat

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of that Masonic lodge and lived out his life happily

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and served his community. And we were so excited to

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find out that information. He was one hundred years old

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when he died. He had the full Masonic funeral. I mean,

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it's just so satisfying to be able to know that

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how great and important these people were, and to still

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be able to just talk about him like they're great people,

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as great as the celebrity is to somebody else. Is

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how I feel about them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's you know, probably a story of a

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person's life we would not know about Otherwise things like

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that kind of get lost. Is that the is that

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what the person that kind of started you down this path?

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Speaker 3: The Actually the second Grandmaster, after Spencer died, his wife

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came through to us, and that's what started our chain

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of events. Her name was Adela Bostic and she kept

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calling me Adela, and then she was mimbiking my voice

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through a spirit box. So we were like, there's something

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going on here. They're really trying to speak to us,

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like they know us. So we we got the name

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Joseph and then we were like, okay, let's just do

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a simple Google search on Joseph Bostic and then we

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were so surprised to see Joe's at Bastik was a

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headmaster of this lodge, lived in Brookston, was married to Adela.

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We were mind blown and then that is what really

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began our journey, and we were like, there's more people here.

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We need to talk to them all. We want to

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find all of you and you know, share your story

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like you want.

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Speaker 2: It so absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking up Adela's birthday. Her and Joseph were married

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and moved here from the East Coast and they both

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are buried together in the small cemeteryat only had about

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fifteen twenty graves in there, but it was in between

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two houses. We thought it was just an empty lot. So,

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I mean, some of these are very challenging to find

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but when it's like the gift that keeps on giving,

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you go there and then you're seeing more people that

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belonged to that lodge because they had a Masonic temple marking,

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so we would google it, like what lodge did they

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belong to? Were they there? No? Okay Adela. She was

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a member of the Order of the Eastern Stars, so

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that is for the women of the lodge, and they

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would have did their practicing downstairs. The men would have

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had the upstairs. There was other ties and people coming

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through so much we had to start questioning what else

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was going on. We started getting Robert Wendekoop, so we

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found out Robert Windekoop was one of the first pharmacists

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in town and they rented a room in that lodge

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and they used that for their pharmacy. And that was

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all going on during the time of the War of

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eighteen twelve. Battlefield Lane was fought five miles away. That's

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where every Buddy's buried, so it's like, you know, they

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were coming in there by the loads, and then the

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Civil War was there, so we just feel like the

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pharmacy probably then turned into a makeshift hospital. So's I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: That's a there's an interesting synchronicity. So I just made

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a video this morning about someone from my hometown that

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ended up in Michigan during the War of eighteen twelve.

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Speaker 3: Really down at the riveries in Battlefield.

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Speaker 2: It was he was at Fort Mackinac.

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Speaker 3: Oh raised by my house five minutes away.

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Speaker 2: And he was born in my hometown.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, gives me the chills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor William Beaumont, if you want to look him up.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would love to go and visit on his gravey.

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Then he's probably at one of our older cemeteries called Woodmere.

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Speaker 2: So I actually looked into the burial site of someone

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involved in his story and they were buried in Canada.

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I didn't look into his burial site, but there is

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like a plaque in a statue of him somewhere in

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that area. So what was his name? One more time,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love a new little discovery like that. So

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sometimes you know, it's challenging trying to find your spirits

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resting place. And we were wondering why are we get

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to so many women, And that's when we discovered the

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Order of the Eastern Star was involved there but then

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we started getting children coming through, and a little boy

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named Benjamin comes through and a little girl named Emma. Well,

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I found Emma's grave, and I think she was traveling

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from the cemetery to the lodge back and forth, because

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that's what they do. I think she was literally traveling

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with us when we were visiting. So I had to

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kind of not invite Emma back to the lodge because

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she was scared there. But I think they would bring

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their children there. So it's it's weird to explain, but

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it's like a gravitational pull where spirits are going there.

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It's like they're lining up to talk to you and

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tell you things.

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Speaker 2: Do you think going back to the same place regularly

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helps with that, like built, like, you know, gaining their trust.

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Speaker 3: I do think that they know me by name there.

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Now they know my teammate Ron by his last name.

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So I'm thinking maybe we're not hearing the mister Weindolin.

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But you know, they would address to properly back then,

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and he's always trying to speak to them in their

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grand room upstairs. I keep calling it a ballroom because

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I was unsure. It just looks so grand. That's what

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we call it. And there's a music player up there.

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They don't like when you play music. They'll cuss you

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out over playing records for him. But I think it's

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more of a they don't have respect for women in

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that building, but they've never had respect for women right

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in the downstairs. The women love me. They come through,

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they love to chat. You can hear their disembodied voices

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where I think it's somebody coming in the front door.

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When I heard somebody say is anybody here, and I

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was like, yeah, come on in. I looked over and

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there was nobody, and I'm like, yeah, we got that

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on video. I'm glad we did. So it's things like that,

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and I think some of the women get afraid to

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come forward to talk to us from that time. They're

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afraid that they're still going to be hurt. I tell

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them that they could talk to me if they need

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me to help them, you know, move on. I will

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help them. But we haven't got any asking for help.

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Most of them tell us they love staying there, and

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I think it's because this was all they know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so living humans, most people are good, friendly,

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some are a little cranky. You have a wide variety

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of personalities, so I would imagine that, you know, the

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spirits of the dead would be the same way too.

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Speaker 3: We've had quite a few. I won't tell you there's

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a demon there because I don't believe that there is

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a demon there, but there are a whole spirits. They're

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very cranky, they're mean to women. But we have to

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remember we're probably in their time period. So if I'm

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walking into a room in the eighteen fifties, they're not

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going to look at me and respect me. They're going

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to say, why are you up here? You do not

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belong in here, and throw things at me. And that's

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a very common occurrence there. We get culture geist activity,

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but I think it's because they're telling me you're in

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the wrong area of this lot. So they allow our

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male members to go places where when we go in it,

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I think it's a little ant.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: We have women's spirit there named Brittany that is in

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love with the owner. She comes through and tells them

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kisses and love you. But she's possessive and he's like, Brittany,

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I got a wife, you know, but all drugs aside.

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She's a very possessive spirit over him, and I'm like,

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that's not cool. She doesn't like to speak to anybody,

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but when he's there with us, shall come through in

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her voice.

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Speaker 2: But his wife came. Has that ever happened that?

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Speaker 3: So we actually just did that last week. We investigated

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with the owners for like six hours, the owner's wife. Now,

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I don't tell them every single piece of paranormal because

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I'm building a story, so I like them to be

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surprised with it too, but I tell them all of

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our highlights. They didn't know we were getting attacked when

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we went into the basement. Every woman was getting hit

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in the back of their neck while him and his

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wife went into the basement and she came out and

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we watched it form on her skin, just one single

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scratch across her neck. And I'm like, that's what that

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spirit does. It gets you as soon as you touch

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that bottom stair or you'll feel like you're like falling

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down the last few steps, and it's not common to

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feel like you're pushed forth. You really got to hang

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onto the rail. So now got to act in there.

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We got to keep our guard up because we know

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that they're going to try to I think there's the

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ones that so I think those men's spirit don't want

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us in the basement. I think they don't like us upstairs, but.

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Speaker 2: They want the women to stay in their place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we did have a team member his leg

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went through the floor, and I'm not totally convinced that

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it wasn't the spirit. I mean they were kind of

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threatening him the few hours that we were there. It

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was still daylight. We have it on video. His leg

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went through the whole board all the way up to

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his hip. But then it asked him are you okay?

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And then he responded, thank you for asking. I'm okay,

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And I'm like, you're hanging through the floor. No you're

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not okay. But yeah, so they're respectful to you too

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if they know you're I feel like if we're getting hurt,

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whoever was hurting another one that is trying to be

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that nice source to ask are you okay? And it

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was a woman that asked him.

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Speaker 2: Yep, makes sense. Yeah. Is that the location that has

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the para cat?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that can't adopted us, and we love it. I

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that cat does things I did know cats could do.

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I mean it knocks on doors too, So when we're investigating.

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We have to make sure the cat is in a

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room with us, because if I'm hearing a knock outside,

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I need to know it's not the cat outside. So

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we adopted the cat. I bring it food, but the

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cat gets threatened there too from the spirits, so I

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think we're always protecting it and I don't allow it

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to go past that mean room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably the cat would feel comfortable in the

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same place that women do. It is what my gut

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would tell me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the cat doesn't even act like a cat, though,

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Does it make sense? I always wonder is it something

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else like a It's hard to explain, but sometimes that

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cat doesn't act like.

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Speaker 2: A kay I say that about one of my own cats.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's using a Wiji board and the cat was

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trying to use the board. It put a pauw put

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its paw on the planet, and I'm like, oh, are

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you trying to work for your sleep tonight? You know,

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we made jokes about it, but yeah, it's all involved

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in our investigating.

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Speaker 2: It came out what are your favorite techniques to use?

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Speaker 3: I like to do EVPs a lot. I think we

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yield more results with our EVPs. But I'll put on

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SB seven, so we can can hear spirits coming through

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with that. Those are like my favorites to you, So

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any kind of spirit box and EVPs, but I like

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to have trigger objects out like anything Masonic we can find.

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We've been gathering to bring to this place just to

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try to show them that we love you, we respect

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you here and we'll bring any gifts and things like that.

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We used kay two meters there because that is the

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spirit's favorite thing to communicate with. And people will argue

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with me on this one. But I could put it

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on a cardboard box with nothing inside the box and

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no electricity around and do my yes and no questions

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and it will light it all the way up to

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red for yes, and it'll light it up to like

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the first two lights for noes. So we start at

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our baseline. It doesn't matter what you use there. It's

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the most common place I've ever been to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you had mentioned two places you go regularly.

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Speaker 3: Correct. The other one is a real manor that is

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in Fremont, Ohio. And one of the presidents I'm trying

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to think President Hayes was actually buried across the street

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like Kitty Corner. So if you're on the port you

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could see the president. It's a twofer kind of thing.

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That place was owned by the Wolf family. They had

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a piano business and another jewelry business in town, and

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they decided to sell their home move to Illinois and

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another family had bought it. Daisy and her husband they

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both died in the house, but Daisy's mother did also.

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We found out recently she came to the house, she

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walked across the threshold and had a heart attack. So

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there's a lot of dots that happened there prior. The

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house sat empty for years. Into Lucas County, Ohio bought

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it and wanted to use it for unwanted children. So

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anybody that had an unwanted child, or if it was

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mentally or physically handicapped or nonverbal, autistic, whatever that would be,

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they were dropped off there and they had a very

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loving lady that took care of them, and they had

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a workshop down in the basement. Now people do get

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bit down in the basement or scratch. I think it's

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from my theory is nonverbal children that don't know how

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to talk or act, you know, that's how they're getting

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your attention. I don't feel like it's malicious, though, I

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think it's really them trying to reach out to us.

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That's only mine. I've been out there quite a few times.

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It's one of my favorite places. The owner there is

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also fantastic Carlow. He is great host. And I mean

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it's so you got the little kids that lived there,

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then after it shut down for that, it went to

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adults with physical and mental handicaps that stayed there. So

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you got all this energy from all these kids. And

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one of the children died in the home from a suicide,

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jumping out of a window, and I know a few

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other deaths had occurred with the children there. I bring

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toys from like the sixties seventies. I'll go to the

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antique stores and bring them in for the kids there,

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because they love the toys that they remember. So I've

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been trying to incorporate that with all of my investigations. Now,

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bring something that is very their time era and you're

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feeling better.

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Speaker 2: Have you gotten any names and stories behind those people there?

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Speaker 3: We have so Miss woof her name, not Miss Book.

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I'm trying to think of her last name, Daisy is

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her first name. In her bedroom on the main floor.

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We know that I get afraid using the bathroom right

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next to her bedroom. I don't even like to shut

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the door. It's a really eerie feeling. Even though you

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know it was probably the sweet old lady, I just

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don't think she was that sweet and nice. I think

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she was a little more demanding. This house was a

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very beautiful manner has a servants, so I'm sure she

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would have had her servants living in the home with her,

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probably up in the attic area. I don't think that

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she would have had them on her main floor or

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on her second story floor. The certain steps would go

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all the way. You take two different stairways to get up.

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But then you have the children. There's a crib room

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and it doesn't matter the time of day you're in there.

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We could get those children playing with all the toys

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we've watched, the dolls arm lift up that we brought form.

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They'll roll balls right in front of you. I mean,

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it's it is fantastic. And I don't want to give

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away who recently went there, but a really big, well

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known TV personality one out there and did a special

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two and they found out new and information that I'm

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not allowed to disclose yet. I want them to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it will keep my ear out for that one.

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That's intriguing.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I've seen you do is you

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do you live stream a lot, and I know that

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I've heard that. You know, people watching the live streams

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have seen things that hasn't happened when I have been

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watching them, but I know that other people have. And

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what kind of evidence have you gotten from the live streams?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we will have a phone set up or

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like this, or somebody walking around with it and just filming,

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and you will see ultra diised activity, like in my

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house that I live in right now. I have one

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of my team members over last night and I said,

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can you knock something off on the table over here?

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That you knock it off of? And it did. So,

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I mean, I really don't challenge even my own ghost here,

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but if anything falls down up above these shelves, it's

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just my house spirits. But I mean they will see

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things like that. You will see you might see a

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shadow person walk behind us or even in front of us.

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We're constantly telling you tell we're doing really big moves here,

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things that other teams are not doing. There's a wall

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in the basement I don't. I know people know about it,

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so I'm not afraid to talk about it. In the basement,

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it's a stack stone wall, and then there's a cutout

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where there's only cinder block where it was sealed off,

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and it's a doorway. So now we're at the point

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where like, do we break this wall down and see

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what's behind it? And then what do we do when

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we do find out? So we had the owner with us.

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He took the sledgehammer. I recorded him. I was like,

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let's go live with this. This is something people are

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going to love this part of the story. So now

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we're taking down the wall. We got about a softball

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size hole in it to look through and put a

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camera in there. But it had another set of cinderblocks

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behind it, so I'm like, oh, this must be a tunnel.

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But then you're like, they were old time masons and

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don't come at me. But they did their rituals. They

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were not all nice people. I'm afraid of finding maybe

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skeletal remains and that would put a hole on my investigation.

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I would have to call police and get it all tested.

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But I mean, I feel like we're close to a

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big breakthrough like that I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: And it's sounds like that's a place where spirits are,

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you know, kind of congregating or drawn too, so you know,

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maybe there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 3: This basement is quite weird. So right off the stairway,

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I told you about that spirit, then we have that

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wall thing over there. But on the other side of

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the basement. I mean, I can't, I don't. I tried

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to photograph it. I seen something my partner that I

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had with me, my ghost hunting body, he was right

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there with me. He's seen it first, and we were like,

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we hope we got that on video. So it's like

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anomalies that are appearing in front of you and you're like,

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this is wild. You just want to walk around with

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a video camera and record everything because it's things are

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happening in the daytime, early morning, all throughout the day,

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and then a certain time at night. It's like they

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check out and other ones come in and they're not

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as shifts. Yeah, they are on shifts. I got an

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EVP the last time I was there. I usually don't

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even post them to anything, but I posted it on

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my TikTok and said kill the Republicans, and I was

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like what, I must have listened to it a thousand times.

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But then you got to think during the wars it

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was very political. They were fighting for freedom and they

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they probably did say these, but I know a lot

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is a residual haunting and we're capturing it. And that's

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exciting too to keep getting the same thing, to find

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out why they want to kill the Republic. And then

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we got another one that said something about shots being fired.

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Well it was a war zone, so I'm like, this

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is great, this is great. It was back to back,

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and so I uploaded those because I'm like, I put

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them with question marks so they could be up for debate.

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I'm not going to claim that's what it says. I

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don't edit nothing. I just keep it all wrong and

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real and let people hear what I heard. That way

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they can make their own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And so it's a Masonic lodge show. It's it's

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there's a lot of stone work, yes, and a lot

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of people think that certain types of stone, you know,

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can hold kind of the residual energy a bit better.

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Do you happen to know what kind of stone is?

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Speaker 3: Life zone?

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Speaker 2: I am stone interesting? You've gone down.

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Speaker 3: This very road too. Yeah, it's too many incidences lining up.

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So I actually talked to somebody, a celebrity recently about

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coming out to the lodge and them investigating because they're

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a psychic. I'm like, I really think that you're going

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to get things that I haven't. But I would really

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like for you to contact these people too. I mean,

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I just want to know more and you can't help,

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but wonder. I mean, I'm obsessed. I am literally obsessed

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with dead people, wanting to know how they were when

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they were alive, and what their story was and what

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did you like to do for fun? And it's exciting

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and they want to tell you. You just got to

476
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ask them questions. I think people get stuck in the loop.

477
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,400
They're in their own loop, like say what did you

478
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,480
do for fun? Did you play? Yeah? Think of something

479
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:05,119
new instead of the same O say.

480
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah. Really, you know, get to know who

481
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,680
they are aside from you know, like the evidence you're capturing.

482
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:19,720
I live in Connecticut and so I'm in war and territory. Yeah,

483
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,599
And they did a lot of disservice to some people

484
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,720
that have passed on by not getting the correct stories out.

485
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:33,799
And that's how I got passionate about it, and I

486
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:38,839
consider myself so I'm trying to change this, but I

487
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,319
consider myself to be paranormal repellent. But I have linked

488
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,119
up with an investigation team close by. I'm hoping the

489
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,720
more I get around it, the more I'll start experiencing.

490
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,519
And I'd like to do, you know, the same thing

491
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,640
that you're doing out here. And you know, especially if

492
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,599
I can get access to any of the places the

493
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,559
Warns were involved.

494
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: In, that would be amazing.

495
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you try to undo some of the damagand.

496
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,199
Speaker 3: And yards are on the road and call to the

497
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,800
spirits up there to come to your car and talk

498
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,320
to you, you know, drive up to the places and yeah,

499
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,239
it's not even hard. And people think it must cost

500
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,280
a lot of money. It doesn't. It doesn't cost money

501
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,519
to do this kind of research at a library. It's

502
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,199
free information for us.

503
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: All.

504
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,159
Speaker 3: We all have an internet if we have phoned, I mean,

505
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:46,760
we basically can get internet usage somehow to and it's

506
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,599
it takes it to another level. It makes you more

507
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,840
connected to them, It makes you more passionate about what

508
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:59,679
you're doing, and I think it brings on more activity too.

509
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:04,559
I think maybe we're getting so much because another team

510
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:08,360
went there and they're not getting the stuff I was,

511
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,800
And I'm like, is it because you're going in there,

512
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,039
you're setting up everything and you're sitting in a circle

513
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,400
like this is anybody here? Can you make a sound?

514
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,679
They don't want that going there, like, Hi, spirits, I'm home,

515
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,400
I'm visiting you. Do you mind if I come upstairs? Here?

516
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,079
I come. I mean, I talk to them like they're there.

517
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,559
I know it's our newer language, but once I get

518
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,559
to that ballroom, I'm like, ooh, you feel it. You

519
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:44,840
set them pods out, they're just going off. My paranormal

520
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,880
equipment I bring is disappearing like they steal it back.

521
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,800
So now I'm bringing very minimal no joke. They took

522
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,559
my Apple AirPods out of the case and I called

523
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:00,960
the owner the day after I left. I'm like, Matt,

524
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,800
I couldn't find my AirPods nowhere. They were missing out

525
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
of the case. I had them on the desk. He

526
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,840
was like, well, there's one under the desk here, and

527
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,960
there's one over here. They were just on the floor

528
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,800
and I'm like, there's no way. And another pair of

529
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,039
headphones I had and I'm like, I wonder if it's

530
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:24,079
because we do esties and they might not like it,

531
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,079
and they're taking my headphones because of that, but they

532
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,480
took them, and I have a picture posted. It's about

533
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,400
thirty feet up this attic loft and my headphones were

534
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,679
all the way up there, and I'm so afraid of heights.

535
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,519
I would never go three steps up. I just I

536
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:47,480
can't look down. And I'm like, there's nobody else would

537
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,400
it did? It was an impossible impossible. We were all together,

538
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,079
So that's another reason why we filmed. So we got

539
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,639
that video documentation. We know what happened. We can't go

540
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:02,360
by hearsay.

541
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:04,199
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

542
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: Yep.

543
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,199
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite spirit?

544
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: I do. Adella Bostic became my I bust into tears.

545
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:20,639
Got so emotional when I found her grave because we

546
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,920
found her husband first, and we kept searching for her,

547
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,039
not realizing she was at the same on the same stone,

548
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
but he put her on the backside and not on

549
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,760
the front because women were so inferior in the Masonic

550
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,880
lodges that she's not even shown. So when we really

551
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:45,559
found her, I was like, oh, but I think because

552
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,679
I'm trying to find an actual picture of her still

553
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,039
and I'm going to be contacting. There's still a few

554
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,719
members of her family alive. I found that out, So

555
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,800
I'm going to sound like a crazy woman asking for

556
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,320
a picture of their greatest grandmother, but I really want

557
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,599
to see a picture of her. I'm willing to bet

558
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:11,559
she has red hair, and she was probably around one

559
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,199
hundred and forty hundred and fifty pounds like myself. I

560
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,400
just feel like I'm probably with them calling me Adella there.

561
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:26,159
It made me more attached to her in her story

562
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,679
and my friend Ron on the team, Ron Wendelin, they're

563
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,639
calling him by his last name and speaking out to him,

564
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,880
and I think that's Adela's wife husband, Joseph, that was

565
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,880
also the grandmaster, but he has more of attachment to

566
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,840
Spencer Heart. So it's like they're attached us, but we're

567
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,000
attached up another story. But all the same, it's really

568
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,800
exciting and it makes you want to know everything about them.

569
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I can't get over her name being on the back

570
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,119
of the stone.

571
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: It was so wild and I've never seen that. Yeah,

572
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,320
we went out there and we took lots of pictures.

573
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,079
We were I'm crying my eyes out, like I just

574
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,920
found my grandma or something, and I'm like just such

575
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,039
an emotional connection. I was just bawling, and I'm like, well,

576
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,840
where's Adella? And I'm like, who's ab? Because it's only

577
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,119
curved on a stone AB and then there's another couple

578
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,480
initials on another stone. There's only a few stones. But

579
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:36,039
theirs was very beautiful and it was a stand up

580
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,519
monumental because in that time you would have had the

581
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:44,000
best and there's would have been the best for the time,

582
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:49,800
but she was so inferior she was put on the backside.

583
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:56,039
So we took pictures of it. It's it's amazing.

584
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: So what advice would you have for people wanting to,

585
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,679
you know, find a grave like that? Or do research?

586
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Is it? You know, find a grave is great, I've

587
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,679
used them. What other avenues do you take?

588
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: So if I know the city that somebody had passed

589
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,440
away in, I can do a quick search at their

590
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:26,559
library online, or I'll just start hitting their cemeteries in town,

591
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,519
make a list of it, call them. It's better than

592
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:34,360
driving there, and then ask them. I know this sounds odd,

593
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,639
but I'm looking for somebody by this name. It would

594
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,360
have been probably between this year and this year, like

595
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,079
give them even a fifty year range and they're able

596
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,400
to pull up everybody from that name, and usually they

597
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,840
have a historical part of the cemetery where these people

598
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:57,760
and if they're not historical, they can still pull them

599
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,000
up and it's easier to find the newer. But I

600
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,480
would say do it. It's so rewarding. It's it's the

601
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:12,159
best feeling ever getting to know where they're at and

602
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,599
how to communicate with them in a different way. I

603
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,360
feel like it's a more respectful.

604
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of do the opposite. I volunteer at

605
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:27,039
a cemetery, very historical section, and I will write down

606
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,440
the name off of stones and then go home and

607
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,360
you know, try to figure out more about that.

608
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

609
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting for sure, just the everyone's life

610
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:40,280
is interesting.

611
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: It is. Everybody has a more interesting life than you.

612
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,199
I don't judge one paranormal journey with somebody else's because

613
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,400
we're all on our own journey with it. We're all

614
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,760
going to investigate a little bit different. And I don't

615
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,679
think anybody's right or wrong for trying to make their

616
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:09,760
own hypath of this. I don't think they're wrong for

617
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,800
trying to make conclusions theories. I encourage it. I encourage

618
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,000
you to try everything that you can to see if

619
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,079
you're getting the same results every single time trying it

620
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:31,920
different ways. I mean, it's about experimenting and finding your niche.

621
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:39,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely So if people wanted to watch your live stream,

622
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,280
where can they do that?

623
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,079
Speaker 3: You can find me at the Ghost Whispers on Facebook,

624
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,119
and we also go live on our tictac the ghost

625
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:53,679
Whisper page. I go live on my personal page Don

626
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,800
Martin a lot because I'm always doing some spooky stuff

627
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,360
every weekend, always staying busy, but we we investigate quite

628
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,320
a bit, so about every other weekend we're out. I

629
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,159
have a team member in Germany right now, so she's

630
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:15,239
been going live Avery day from a different country and

631
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,280
she's going to end her trip with the Holocaust over there.

632
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,719
So I mean all week long we're going live still

633
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,480
and it's fun.

634
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: And you have passed on the legacy of this to

635
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
your daughter. She investigates with you too, right I did.

636
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:38,039
Speaker 3: So My daughter hasn't been investigating since she was about

637
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,119
ten twelve because I've done this for so long. As

638
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,159
soon as she hit eighteen, I had her join the

639
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,800
team with me. And before she even joined a team,

640
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,519
she was working at a local insane asylum with me

641
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,679
doing paranormal tours. So she had Eloise Asylum as her

642
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,920
first investigation as a real I know that, and then

643
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:09,280
she went to the Hensdale House as her first paranormal

644
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,679
team investigation. Me and her were on a few teams

645
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:20,639
together and then it came up where I could have

646
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,840
my own team. Our owner of our team was just

647
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:27,039
moving on a state, so it was like, oh, okay,

648
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,400
well I'll just take over the team and it was perfect.

649
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,000
So we love it, and I think it's great when

650
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,199
you can do something like that with your kids and

651
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,400
they share that interest. She's really good at evidence review.

652
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,599
She will spot the odd thing in a picture. She's

653
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,559
very good about finding shadows or pulling out.

654
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:57,639
Speaker 4: EVPs, and a lot of people seem to not like

655
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,599
as much, and that takes a lot of attention, detail

656
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:01,239
and patience.

657
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,079
Speaker 2: That's impressive. Yeah.

658
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got five cameras going and you

659
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,480
got to think, well, right there, for one hour of

660
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,840
that camera time, that's five hours. So I try to

661
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,159
limit what I have to review versus having tons and

662
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,280
tons of it. But I think by us doing our

663
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,480
lives or recording it, I'm able to go back and

664
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:31,639
watch for things that are happening during it, And I

665
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:36,960
think that's I think you should document everything, but don't

666
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:41,519
be money hungry famous in a paranormal There's no money

667
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:45,440
to be made here. It's all about passion.

668
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, no money to be made in podcasts on

669
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,119
YouTube either for most people. Just to put this is

670
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,440
a passion project for me as well.

671
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I see a lot of people joining our

672
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:06,760
community thinking they're making money. Let me join along. And

673
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,679
I don't want to discredit all these people that paid

674
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,519
the way for even myself. I mean, there are some

675
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,719
great legends just in my neck of the woods that

676
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,280
I one percent look up to and fan girl over

677
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:26,840
where somebody else would be like who is that? I

678
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,119
don't know, but.

679
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: I relate to that a lot. There have been times where,

680
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,920
you know, I've been about to interview someone and I

681
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,679
tell my friends and they say who, And I'm like

682
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:48,960
dying over here, having like celebrity shock that I get

683
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480
to meet these people, and then my friends have no

684
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,920
idea who I'm talking about. So I understand that a lot.

685
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,559
Speaker 3: It's even Carlo, the owner of the deal Manner. I

686
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:00,920
took a picture with him yesterday at hair con and

687
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,039
I feel like a fan girl, and I'm like, I've

688
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:08,000
been to your place a million times, but I'm acting

689
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:11,360
like I'm brand new. But you know I bought Uh.

690
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,440
He had a picture hanging up in the real manor

691
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,920
of the Beal manner and he had would put inside

692
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,079
of it, and one of them he put in a

693
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,239
cross shape and I was like, I want that, and

694
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,760
he was like, well, you could take it. I'm like,

695
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,239
I already locked the door and locked myself out. I'm like,

696
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,400
I'll see you again. So I'm going back again in July.

697
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:38,559
This would be my second time back this year, doing

698
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,920
a weekend trip. We were down there in February, so

699
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,519
we're every four or five months spending a week in

700
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,599
it being I feel like there was another day we went.

701
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:56,159
I've been really wrapped up in the lodge. Yeah.

702
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have your buddy there.

703
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got Adella. So they demand your attention. It's

704
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,280
almost like they call you back, the owner. We'll call

705
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,760
me and say listen to this. They're saying your name

706
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,800
on the spirit box. Don I'm like, this is wild.

707
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,719
I got to come back.

708
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: So yep, yep, you found that place for a reason.

709
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,079
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

710
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:29,079
Speaker 2: All right, don Well, thank you very much for doing this.

711
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:33,639
I had a blast, and aside from everything else, it's

712
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:37,599
so nice to talk to another woman. Yes, my my

713
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hobbies bring me to speaking to a lot of men

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who are all great, but it's not the same. It's not.

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Speaker 3: We got strong women out here in this field that

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are pushing forward and doing big moves and great things.

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And shout out to all of them great women. And

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absolutely yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And like I said at the beginning, we have the

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Puckwaji whisper and one of the ghosts whispers. I love

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very special day.

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Speaker 3: It is such a great thing. I love the coincidence.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was great. And the War of eighteen twelve

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Michigan thing too weird it is.

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Speaker 3: My coincidences have been coming in two so it was

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a full circle for me, something for me to tell

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my team.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa yeah. So everybody go check out Dawn's

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live streams and see what you can see there. Thank you,

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thanks for joining down again. Bye bye everyone.

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Speaker 3: When Sluia

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Speaker 2: My national spec