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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone. Today is really exciting. The stars have aligned
because you are going to get the puquaj Whisper and
one of the ghost whisperers. So hang tight and I
will be right back with Don Martin. Don thank you
for coming.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 2: It is my pleasure. So the reason I specifically reached
out to you is because one of the things I'm
passionate about is the history of locations and the history
of the humans involved. And I know from what I've
seen you do a great deal of work in regards
to that.
Speaker 3: I do when I go out to do an investigation.
You normal investigations, you go in there so quick, you're
in and out in a day, so you're only looking
for your paranormal activity there. I have just expanded that,
and I'll keep going back to a location because I
want to know who the spirits are, who they were
in their lifetime, what they did for a living, where
they spend their days, and go and find their graves
and try to bring them peace if I can also.
So it's been a great mission for me and my
team discovering the spirits and being able to tell their
stories because I feel like a lot of them want that.
They don't want to.
Speaker 2: It seems like some people don't have too much of
a purpose behind like ghost hunting. It kind of break
people into like paranormal investigators in the ghost Hunters.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know some it's.
Speaker 2: Views and maybe evidence even but other people really want
to figure out some mysteries, like what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I love that part of it, and I have two
locations that I work on doing that, but the one
I go out to every two weeks and I'm leaving
Michigan to drive to Indiana to continue doing my work
for them. We don't get paid for what we do
and never ask for money. I wouldn't take it or anything.
It's just like such a deep passion, but to get
a connection with the spirits of this place, because you know,
they were people even though they lived in the early
eighteen hundred, they're still here and they want to talk
to you, but they want you to tell the right things.
And I think when you're going into places and they're
telling you get out and stuff like that, maybe because
they're sick of us coming in and asking the same
things and doing the same things.
Speaker 2: Yeah can you knock? And yeah, that stuff is probably
gets old after a while.
Speaker 3: It's so repetitive, and I feel like people really don't
think out of the box that much with it. And
this was my thinking outside of the box way, and
it helped us so much more, and we didn't realize
how much it would affect us as a team, Like
it became so passionate that we're putting in hard work
where we're going to the historical societies and talking to
people in the town, interviewing them and gathering all all
this information about a location. But then you're finding out
everything you can from ancestry, DNA to find a grave
and doing this hard work to bring people their story
because I feel like the people I found, I realized
how important they were until I found them, and then
I realized. So the place I'm speaking of is called
the Haunted Brookston Masonic Lodge. That's what me and my
team named it. With the owner, Matt, He's really nice
guy to work with. He knew he had haunting. This
building was built in eighteen fifty six over in Pittsburgh, Indiana.
I'm sorry, eighteen forty eight in Pittsburgh, Indiana, and moved
to Brookston in eighteen fifty six. This town was built
around the lodge in this railroad that lays right out
in front. Well, then we found out the first Masonic
headmaster was so important. His name was Spencer Hart. He
was the leading Masonic of the world at that time,
longest serving Mason of eighty years. He filled every seat
of that Masonic lodge and lived out his life happily
and served his community. And we were so excited to
find out that information. He was one hundred years old
when he died. He had the full Masonic funeral. I mean,
it's just so satisfying to be able to know that
how great and important these people were, and to still
be able to just talk about him like they're great people,
as great as the celebrity is to somebody else. Is
how I feel about them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's you know, probably a story of a
person's life we would not know about Otherwise things like
that kind of get lost. Is that the is that
what the person that kind of started you down this path?
Or was there something specific it was.
Speaker 3: The Actually the second Grandmaster, after Spencer died, his wife
came through to us, and that's what started our chain
of events. Her name was Adela Bostic and she kept
calling me Adela, and then she was mimbiking my voice
through a spirit box. So we were like, there's something
going on here. They're really trying to speak to us,
like they know us. So we we got the name
Joseph and then we were like, okay, let's just do
a simple Google search on Joseph Bostic and then we
were so surprised to see Joe's at Bastik was a
headmaster of this lodge, lived in Brookston, was married to Adela.
We were mind blown and then that is what really
began our journey, and we were like, there's more people here.
We need to talk to them all. We want to
find all of you and you know, share your story
like you want.
Speaker 2: It so absolutely.
Speaker 3: I'm looking up Adela's birthday. Her and Joseph were married
and moved here from the East Coast and they both
are buried together in the small cemeteryat only had about
fifteen twenty graves in there, but it was in between
two houses. We thought it was just an empty lot. So,
I mean, some of these are very challenging to find
but when it's like the gift that keeps on giving,
you go there and then you're seeing more people that
belonged to that lodge because they had a Masonic temple marking,
so we would google it, like what lodge did they
belong to? Were they there? No? Okay Adela. She was
a member of the Order of the Eastern Stars, so
that is for the women of the lodge, and they
would have did their practicing downstairs. The men would have
had the upstairs. There was other ties and people coming
through so much we had to start questioning what else
was going on. We started getting Robert Wendekoop, so we
found out Robert Windekoop was one of the first pharmacists
in town and they rented a room in that lodge
and they used that for their pharmacy. And that was
all going on during the time of the War of
eighteen twelve. Battlefield Lane was fought five miles away. That's
where every Buddy's buried, so it's like, you know, they
were coming in there by the loads, and then the
Civil War was there, so we just feel like the
pharmacy probably then turned into a makeshift hospital. So's I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: That's a there's an interesting synchronicity. So I just made
a video this morning about someone from my hometown that
ended up in Michigan during the War of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 3: Really down at the riveries in Battlefield.
Speaker 2: It was he was at Fort Mackinac.
Speaker 3: Oh raised by my house five minutes away.
Speaker 2: And he was born in my hometown.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, gives me the chills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor William Beaumont, if you want to look him up.
Speaker 3: Well, I would love to go and visit on his gravey.
Then he's probably at one of our older cemeteries called Woodmere.
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2: So I actually looked into the burial site of someone
involved in his story and they were buried in Canada.
I didn't look into his burial site, but there is
like a plaque in a statue of him somewhere in
that area. So what was his name? One more time,
Doctor William Beaumont.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love a new little discovery like that. So
sometimes you know, it's challenging trying to find your spirits
resting place. And we were wondering why are we get
to so many women, And that's when we discovered the
Order of the Eastern Star was involved there but then
we started getting children coming through, and a little boy
named Benjamin comes through and a little girl named Emma. Well,
I found Emma's grave, and I think she was traveling
from the cemetery to the lodge back and forth, because
that's what they do. I think she was literally traveling
with us when we were visiting. So I had to
kind of not invite Emma back to the lodge because
she was scared there. But I think they would bring
their children there. So it's it's weird to explain, but
it's like a gravitational pull where spirits are going there.
It's like they're lining up to talk to you and
tell you things.
Speaker 2: Do you think going back to the same place regularly
helps with that, like built, like, you know, gaining their trust.
Speaker 3: I do think that they know me by name there.
Now they know my teammate Ron by his last name.
So I'm thinking maybe we're not hearing the mister Weindolin.
But you know, they would address to properly back then,
and he's always trying to speak to them in their
grand room upstairs. I keep calling it a ballroom because
I was unsure. It just looks so grand. That's what
we call it. And there's a music player up there.
They don't like when you play music. They'll cuss you
out over playing records for him. But I think it's
more of a they don't have respect for women in
that building, but they've never had respect for women right
in the downstairs. The women love me. They come through,
they love to chat. You can hear their disembodied voices
where I think it's somebody coming in the front door.
When I heard somebody say is anybody here, and I
was like, yeah, come on in. I looked over and
there was nobody, and I'm like, yeah, we got that
on video. I'm glad we did. So it's things like that,
and I think some of the women get afraid to
come forward to talk to us from that time. They're
afraid that they're still going to be hurt. I tell
them that they could talk to me if they need
me to help them, you know, move on. I will
help them. But we haven't got any asking for help.
Most of them tell us they love staying there, and
I think it's because this was all they know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so living humans, most people are good, friendly,
some are a little cranky. You have a wide variety
of personalities, so I would imagine that, you know, the
spirits of the dead would be the same way too.
So what kind of personalities have you encountered.
Speaker 3: We've had quite a few. I won't tell you there's
a demon there because I don't believe that there is
a demon there, but there are a whole spirits. They're
very cranky, they're mean to women. But we have to
remember we're probably in their time period. So if I'm
walking into a room in the eighteen fifties, they're not
going to look at me and respect me. They're going
to say, why are you up here? You do not
belong in here, and throw things at me. And that's
a very common occurrence there. We get culture geist activity,
but I think it's because they're telling me you're in
the wrong area of this lot. So they allow our
male members to go places where when we go in it,
I think it's a little ant.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: We have women's spirit there named Brittany that is in
love with the owner. She comes through and tells them
kisses and love you. But she's possessive and he's like, Brittany,
I got a wife, you know, but all drugs aside.
She's a very possessive spirit over him, and I'm like,
that's not cool. She doesn't like to speak to anybody,
but when he's there with us, shall come through in
her voice.
Speaker 2: But his wife came. Has that ever happened that?
Speaker 3: So we actually just did that last week. We investigated
with the owners for like six hours, the owner's wife. Now,
I don't tell them every single piece of paranormal because
I'm building a story, so I like them to be
surprised with it too, but I tell them all of
our highlights. They didn't know we were getting attacked when
we went into the basement. Every woman was getting hit
in the back of their neck while him and his
wife went into the basement and she came out and
we watched it form on her skin, just one single
scratch across her neck. And I'm like, that's what that
spirit does. It gets you as soon as you touch
that bottom stair or you'll feel like you're like falling
down the last few steps, and it's not common to
feel like you're pushed forth. You really got to hang
onto the rail. So now got to act in there.
We got to keep our guard up because we know
that they're going to try to I think there's the
ones that so I think those men's spirit don't want
us in the basement. I think they don't like us upstairs, but.
Speaker 2: They want the women to stay in their place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we did have a team member his leg
went through the floor, and I'm not totally convinced that
it wasn't the spirit. I mean they were kind of
threatening him the few hours that we were there. It
was still daylight. We have it on video. His leg
went through the whole board all the way up to
his hip. But then it asked him are you okay?
And then he responded, thank you for asking. I'm okay,
And I'm like, you're hanging through the floor. No you're
not okay. But yeah, so they're respectful to you too
if they know you're I feel like if we're getting hurt,
whoever was hurting another one that is trying to be
that nice source to ask are you okay? And it
was a woman that asked him.
Speaker 2: Yep, makes sense. Yeah. Is that the location that has
the para cat?
Speaker 3: Yes, that can't adopted us, and we love it. I
that cat does things I did know cats could do.
I mean it knocks on doors too, So when we're investigating.
We have to make sure the cat is in a
room with us, because if I'm hearing a knock outside,
I need to know it's not the cat outside. So
we adopted the cat. I bring it food, but the
cat gets threatened there too from the spirits, so I
think we're always protecting it and I don't allow it
to go past that mean room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably the cat would feel comfortable in the
same place that women do. It is what my gut
would tell me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cat doesn't even act like a cat, though,
Does it make sense? I always wonder is it something
else like a It's hard to explain, but sometimes that
cat doesn't act like.
Speaker 2: A kay I say that about one of my own cats.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's using a Wiji board and the cat was
trying to use the board. It put a pauw put
its paw on the planet, and I'm like, oh, are
you trying to work for your sleep tonight? You know,
we made jokes about it, but yeah, it's all involved
in our investigating.
Speaker 2: It came out what are your favorite techniques to use?
Speaker 3: I like to do EVPs a lot. I think we
yield more results with our EVPs. But I'll put on
SB seven, so we can can hear spirits coming through
with that. Those are like my favorites to you, So
any kind of spirit box and EVPs, but I like
to have trigger objects out like anything Masonic we can find.
We've been gathering to bring to this place just to
try to show them that we love you, we respect
you here and we'll bring any gifts and things like that.
We used kay two meters there because that is the
spirit's favorite thing to communicate with. And people will argue
with me on this one. But I could put it
on a cardboard box with nothing inside the box and
no electricity around and do my yes and no questions
and it will light it all the way up to
red for yes, and it'll light it up to like
the first two lights for noes. So we start at
our baseline. It doesn't matter what you use there. It's
the most common place I've ever been to.
Speaker 2: Okay, you had mentioned two places you go regularly.
Speaker 3: Correct. The other one is a real manor that is
in Fremont, Ohio. And one of the presidents I'm trying
to think President Hayes was actually buried across the street
like Kitty Corner. So if you're on the port you
could see the president. It's a twofer kind of thing.
That place was owned by the Wolf family. They had
a piano business and another jewelry business in town, and
they decided to sell their home move to Illinois and
another family had bought it. Daisy and her husband they
both died in the house, but Daisy's mother did also.
We found out recently she came to the house, she
walked across the threshold and had a heart attack. So
there's a lot of dots that happened there prior. The
house sat empty for years. Into Lucas County, Ohio bought
it and wanted to use it for unwanted children. So
anybody that had an unwanted child, or if it was
mentally or physically handicapped or nonverbal, autistic, whatever that would be,
they were dropped off there and they had a very
loving lady that took care of them, and they had
a workshop down in the basement. Now people do get
bit down in the basement or scratch. I think it's
from my theory is nonverbal children that don't know how
to talk or act, you know, that's how they're getting
your attention. I don't feel like it's malicious, though, I
think it's really them trying to reach out to us.
That's only mine. I've been out there quite a few times.
It's one of my favorite places. The owner there is
also fantastic Carlow. He is great host. And I mean
it's so you got the little kids that lived there,
then after it shut down for that, it went to
adults with physical and mental handicaps that stayed there. So
you got all this energy from all these kids. And
one of the children died in the home from a suicide,
jumping out of a window, and I know a few
other deaths had occurred with the children there. I bring
toys from like the sixties seventies. I'll go to the
antique stores and bring them in for the kids there,
because they love the toys that they remember. So I've
been trying to incorporate that with all of my investigations. Now,
bring something that is very their time era and you're
feeling better.
Speaker 2: Have you gotten any names and stories behind those people there?
Speaker 3: We have so Miss woof her name, not Miss Book.
I'm trying to think of her last name, Daisy is
her first name. In her bedroom on the main floor.
We know that I get afraid using the bathroom right
next to her bedroom. I don't even like to shut
the door. It's a really eerie feeling. Even though you
know it was probably the sweet old lady, I just
don't think she was that sweet and nice. I think
she was a little more demanding. This house was a
very beautiful manner has a servants, so I'm sure she
would have had her servants living in the home with her,
probably up in the attic area. I don't think that
she would have had them on her main floor or
on her second story floor. The certain steps would go
all the way. You take two different stairways to get up.
But then you have the children. There's a crib room
and it doesn't matter the time of day you're in there.
We could get those children playing with all the toys
we've watched, the dolls arm lift up that we brought form.
They'll roll balls right in front of you. I mean,
it's it is fantastic. And I don't want to give
away who recently went there, but a really big, well
known TV personality one out there and did a special
two and they found out new and information that I'm
not allowed to disclose yet. I want them to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will keep my ear out for that one.
That's intriguing.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: One of the things I've seen you do is you
do you live stream a lot, and I know that
I've heard that. You know, people watching the live streams
have seen things that hasn't happened when I have been
watching them, but I know that other people have. And
what kind of evidence have you gotten from the live streams?
Speaker 3: Okay, So we will have a phone set up or
like this, or somebody walking around with it and just filming,
and you will see ultra diised activity, like in my
house that I live in right now. I have one
of my team members over last night and I said,
can you knock something off on the table over here?
That you knock it off of? And it did. So,
I mean, I really don't challenge even my own ghost here,
but if anything falls down up above these shelves, it's
just my house spirits. But I mean they will see
things like that. You will see you might see a
shadow person walk behind us or even in front of us.
We're constantly telling you tell we're doing really big moves here,
things that other teams are not doing. There's a wall
in the basement I don't. I know people know about it,
so I'm not afraid to talk about it. In the basement,
it's a stack stone wall, and then there's a cutout
where there's only cinder block where it was sealed off,
and it's a doorway. So now we're at the point
where like, do we break this wall down and see
what's behind it? And then what do we do when
we do find out? So we had the owner with us.
He took the sledgehammer. I recorded him. I was like,
let's go live with this. This is something people are
going to love this part of the story. So now
we're taking down the wall. We got about a softball
size hole in it to look through and put a
camera in there. But it had another set of cinderblocks
behind it, so I'm like, oh, this must be a tunnel.
But then you're like, they were old time masons and
don't come at me. But they did their rituals. They
were not all nice people. I'm afraid of finding maybe
skeletal remains and that would put a hole on my investigation.
I would have to call police and get it all tested.
But I mean, I feel like we're close to a
big breakthrough like that I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: And it's sounds like that's a place where spirits are,
you know, kind of congregating or drawn too, so you know,
maybe there's a reason for that.
Speaker 3: This basement is quite weird. So right off the stairway,
I told you about that spirit, then we have that
wall thing over there. But on the other side of
the basement. I mean, I can't, I don't. I tried
to photograph it. I seen something my partner that I
had with me, my ghost hunting body, he was right
there with me. He's seen it first, and we were like,
we hope we got that on video. So it's like
anomalies that are appearing in front of you and you're like,
this is wild. You just want to walk around with
a video camera and record everything because it's things are
happening in the daytime, early morning, all throughout the day,
and then a certain time at night. It's like they
check out and other ones come in and they're not
as shifts. Yeah, they are on shifts. I got an
EVP the last time I was there. I usually don't
even post them to anything, but I posted it on
my TikTok and said kill the Republicans, and I was
like what, I must have listened to it a thousand times.
But then you got to think during the wars it
was very political. They were fighting for freedom and they
they probably did say these, but I know a lot
is a residual haunting and we're capturing it. And that's
exciting too to keep getting the same thing, to find
out why they want to kill the Republic. And then
we got another one that said something about shots being fired.
Well it was a war zone, so I'm like, this
is great, this is great. It was back to back,
and so I uploaded those because I'm like, I put
them with question marks so they could be up for debate.
I'm not going to claim that's what it says. I
don't edit nothing. I just keep it all wrong and
real and let people hear what I heard. That way
they can make their own.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so it's a Masonic lodge show. It's it's
there's a lot of stone work, yes, and a lot
of people think that certain types of stone, you know,
can hold kind of the residual energy a bit better.
Do you happen to know what kind of stone is?
Speaker 3: Life zone?
Speaker 2: I am stone interesting? You've gone down.
Speaker 3: This very road too. Yeah, it's too many incidences lining up.
So I actually talked to somebody, a celebrity recently about
coming out to the lodge and them investigating because they're
a psychic. I'm like, I really think that you're going
to get things that I haven't. But I would really
like for you to contact these people too. I mean,
I just want to know more and you can't help,
but wonder. I mean, I'm obsessed. I am literally obsessed
with dead people, wanting to know how they were when
they were alive, and what their story was and what
did you like to do for fun? And it's exciting
and they want to tell you. You just got to
ask them questions. I think people get stuck in the loop.
They're in their own loop, like say what did you
do for fun? Did you play? Yeah? Think of something
new instead of the same O say.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah. Really, you know, get to know who
they are aside from you know, like the evidence you're capturing.
I live in Connecticut and so I'm in war and territory. Yeah,
And they did a lot of disservice to some people
that have passed on by not getting the correct stories out.
And that's how I got passionate about it, and I
consider myself so I'm trying to change this, but I
consider myself to be paranormal repellent. But I have linked
up with an investigation team close by. I'm hoping the
more I get around it, the more I'll start experiencing.
And I'd like to do, you know, the same thing
that you're doing out here. And you know, especially if
I can get access to any of the places the
Warns were involved.
Speaker 3: In, that would be amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you try to undo some of the damagand.
Speaker 3: And yards are on the road and call to the
spirits up there to come to your car and talk
to you, you know, drive up to the places and yeah,
it's not even hard. And people think it must cost
a lot of money. It doesn't. It doesn't cost money
to do this kind of research at a library. It's
free information for us.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 3: We all have an internet if we have phoned, I mean,
we basically can get internet usage somehow to and it's
it takes it to another level. It makes you more
connected to them, It makes you more passionate about what
you're doing, and I think it brings on more activity too.
I think maybe we're getting so much because another team
went there and they're not getting the stuff I was,
And I'm like, is it because you're going in there,
you're setting up everything and you're sitting in a circle
like this is anybody here? Can you make a sound?
They don't want that going there, like, Hi, spirits, I'm home,
I'm visiting you. Do you mind if I come upstairs? Here?
I come. I mean, I talk to them like they're there.
I know it's our newer language, but once I get
to that ballroom, I'm like, ooh, you feel it. You
set them pods out, they're just going off. My paranormal
equipment I bring is disappearing like they steal it back.
So now I'm bringing very minimal no joke. They took
my Apple AirPods out of the case and I called
the owner the day after I left. I'm like, Matt,
I couldn't find my AirPods nowhere. They were missing out
of the case. I had them on the desk. He
was like, well, there's one under the desk here, and
there's one over here. They were just on the floor
and I'm like, there's no way. And another pair of
headphones I had and I'm like, I wonder if it's
because we do esties and they might not like it,
and they're taking my headphones because of that, but they
took them, and I have a picture posted. It's about
thirty feet up this attic loft and my headphones were
all the way up there, and I'm so afraid of heights.
I would never go three steps up. I just I
can't look down. And I'm like, there's nobody else would
it did? It was an impossible impossible. We were all together,
So that's another reason why we filmed. So we got
that video documentation. We know what happened. We can't go
by hearsay.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite spirit?
Speaker 3: I do. Adella Bostic became my I bust into tears.
Got so emotional when I found her grave because we
found her husband first, and we kept searching for her,
not realizing she was at the same on the same stone,
but he put her on the backside and not on
the front because women were so inferior in the Masonic
lodges that she's not even shown. So when we really
found her, I was like, oh, but I think because
I'm trying to find an actual picture of her still
and I'm going to be contacting. There's still a few
members of her family alive. I found that out, So
I'm going to sound like a crazy woman asking for
a picture of their greatest grandmother, but I really want
to see a picture of her. I'm willing to bet
she has red hair, and she was probably around one
hundred and forty hundred and fifty pounds like myself. I
just feel like I'm probably with them calling me Adella there.
It made me more attached to her in her story
and my friend Ron on the team, Ron Wendelin, they're
calling him by his last name and speaking out to him,
and I think that's Adela's wife husband, Joseph, that was
also the grandmaster, but he has more of attachment to
Spencer Heart. So it's like they're attached us, but we're
attached up another story. But all the same, it's really
exciting and it makes you want to know everything about them.
Speaker 2: I can't get over her name being on the back
of the stone.
Speaker 3: It was so wild and I've never seen that. Yeah,
we went out there and we took lots of pictures.
We were I'm crying my eyes out, like I just
found my grandma or something, and I'm like just such
an emotional connection. I was just bawling, and I'm like, well,
where's Adella? And I'm like, who's ab? Because it's only
curved on a stone AB and then there's another couple
initials on another stone. There's only a few stones. But
theirs was very beautiful and it was a stand up
monumental because in that time you would have had the
best and there's would have been the best for the time,
but she was so inferior she was put on the backside.
So we took pictures of it. It's it's amazing.
Speaker 2: So what advice would you have for people wanting to,
you know, find a grave like that? Or do research?
Is it? You know, find a grave is great, I've
used them. What other avenues do you take?
Speaker 3: So if I know the city that somebody had passed
away in, I can do a quick search at their
library online, or I'll just start hitting their cemeteries in town,
make a list of it, call them. It's better than
driving there, and then ask them. I know this sounds odd,
but I'm looking for somebody by this name. It would
have been probably between this year and this year, like
give them even a fifty year range and they're able
to pull up everybody from that name, and usually they
have a historical part of the cemetery where these people
and if they're not historical, they can still pull them
up and it's easier to find the newer. But I
would say do it. It's so rewarding. It's it's the
best feeling ever getting to know where they're at and
how to communicate with them in a different way. I
feel like it's a more respectful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of do the opposite. I volunteer at
a cemetery, very historical section, and I will write down
the name off of stones and then go home and
you know, try to figure out more about that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting for sure, just the everyone's life
is interesting.
Speaker 3: It is. Everybody has a more interesting life than you.
I don't judge one paranormal journey with somebody else's because
we're all on our own journey with it. We're all
going to investigate a little bit different. And I don't
think anybody's right or wrong for trying to make their
own hypath of this. I don't think they're wrong for
trying to make conclusions theories. I encourage it. I encourage
you to try everything that you can to see if
you're getting the same results every single time trying it
different ways. I mean, it's about experimenting and finding your niche.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely So if people wanted to watch your live stream,
where can they do that?
Speaker 3: You can find me at the Ghost Whispers on Facebook,
and we also go live on our tictac the ghost
Whisper page. I go live on my personal page Don
Martin a lot because I'm always doing some spooky stuff
every weekend, always staying busy, but we we investigate quite
a bit, so about every other weekend we're out. I
have a team member in Germany right now, so she's
been going live Avery day from a different country and
she's going to end her trip with the Holocaust over there.
So I mean all week long we're going live still
and it's fun.
Speaker 2: And you have passed on the legacy of this to
your daughter. She investigates with you too, right I did.
Speaker 3: So My daughter hasn't been investigating since she was about
ten twelve because I've done this for so long. As
soon as she hit eighteen, I had her join the
team with me. And before she even joined a team,
she was working at a local insane asylum with me
doing paranormal tours. So she had Eloise Asylum as her
first investigation as a real I know that, and then
she went to the Hensdale House as her first paranormal
team investigation. Me and her were on a few teams
together and then it came up where I could have
my own team. Our owner of our team was just
moving on a state, so it was like, oh, okay,
well I'll just take over the team and it was perfect.
So we love it, and I think it's great when
you can do something like that with your kids and
they share that interest. She's really good at evidence review.
She will spot the odd thing in a picture. She's
very good about finding shadows or pulling out.
Speaker 4: EVPs, and a lot of people seem to not like
as much, and that takes a lot of attention, detail
and patience.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got five cameras going and you
got to think, well, right there, for one hour of
that camera time, that's five hours. So I try to
limit what I have to review versus having tons and
tons of it. But I think by us doing our
lives or recording it, I'm able to go back and
watch for things that are happening during it, And I
think that's I think you should document everything, but don't
be money hungry famous in a paranormal There's no money
to be made here. It's all about passion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, no money to be made in podcasts on
YouTube either for most people. Just to put this is
a passion project for me as well.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I see a lot of people joining our
community thinking they're making money. Let me join along. And
I don't want to discredit all these people that paid
the way for even myself. I mean, there are some
great legends just in my neck of the woods that
I one percent look up to and fan girl over
where somebody else would be like who is that? I
don't know, but.
Speaker 2: I relate to that a lot. There have been times where,
you know, I've been about to interview someone and I
tell my friends and they say who, And I'm like
dying over here, having like celebrity shock that I get
to meet these people, and then my friends have no
idea who I'm talking about. So I understand that a lot.
Speaker 3: It's even Carlo, the owner of the deal Manner. I
took a picture with him yesterday at hair con and
I feel like a fan girl, and I'm like, I've
been to your place a million times, but I'm acting
like I'm brand new. But you know I bought Uh.
He had a picture hanging up in the real manor
of the Beal manner and he had would put inside
of it, and one of them he put in a
cross shape and I was like, I want that, and
he was like, well, you could take it. I'm like,
I already locked the door and locked myself out. I'm like,
I'll see you again. So I'm going back again in July.
This would be my second time back this year, doing
a weekend trip. We were down there in February, so
we're every four or five months spending a week in
it being I feel like there was another day we went.
I've been really wrapped up in the lodge. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have your buddy there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got Adella. So they demand your attention. It's
almost like they call you back, the owner. We'll call
me and say listen to this. They're saying your name
on the spirit box. Don I'm like, this is wild.
I got to come back.
Speaker 2: So yep, yep, you found that place for a reason.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
Speaker 2: All right, don Well, thank you very much for doing this.
I had a blast, and aside from everything else, it's
so nice to talk to another woman. Yes, my my
hobbies bring me to speaking to a lot of men
who are all great, but it's not the same. It's not.
Speaker 3: We got strong women out here in this field that
are pushing forward and doing big moves and great things.
And shout out to all of them great women. And
absolutely yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: And like I said at the beginning, we have the
Puckwaji whisper and one of the ghosts whispers. I love
very special day.
Speaker 3: It is such a great thing. I love the coincidence.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was great. And the War of eighteen twelve
Michigan thing too weird it is.
Speaker 3: My coincidences have been coming in two so it was
a full circle for me, something for me to tell
my team.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa yeah. So everybody go check out Dawn's
live streams and see what you can see there. Thank you,
thanks for joining down again. Bye bye everyone.
Speaker 3: When Sluia
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