WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.520 Here we be Ross, you guys doing the big corner 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:07.320 booth thing right here on this most sacred of olive 3 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.839 garden holidays, Columbus Day. I'm assuming Actually, I don't want 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.160 to tell people necessarily what you're up to, but in 5 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:18.480 the past, that's that's been the go to so happy 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:21.039 Columbus Day. I know that you're not allowed to say that, 7 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:27.960 even though while people like to go, well, he's not 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.399 technically the one who discovered North America. No, but you 9 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.119 know what he is well or the United States? Do 10 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.159 you know what he is? Though he's the one who 11 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:40.880 kept it going. And I'm sure a lot of you guys, 12 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:47.280 Fill feels about that. For better or for worse. I 13 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.359 don't know that we need to get into a philosophical 14 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.359 debate about is the land mass better off? But it 15 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:57.320 is the reality. And think of the sheer audacity of 16 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.840 that at the time. I don't care, I don't care 17 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.920 who you are, man, like you know, Ross and ever 18 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.480 having this conversation the other day about our relatives, right 19 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:09.760 because Ross comes in and he's just like, you know, Man, 20 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:11.959 I don't I don't want to. I don't want to 21 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.879 word this incorrectly. Basically, you're like, look, how not lazy. 22 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.879 Our forefathers were right like wand to come out here 23 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:22.400 and be like, oh look, okay, we got to this place. 24 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.680 You know what, let's let's see what else is out there. 25 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.400 Well, no, it's just amazing too. I mean, like I 26 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:29.799 was thinking about it, like our ancestors were, just like, 27 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.040 you know, I'm gonna leave everything behind. Yeah, screw everything, 28 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.840 I know. I'm gonna pack it all up on a boat. 29 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:37.879 Whatever I can carry on my back. I'm going to 30 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:39.879 cross the Atlantic. And then when I get there, I'm 31 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.560 just gonna start. I'm gonna start over. That's crazy. 32 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.599 You're you're in a nice boat. You're in the nice 33 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:47.439 part of the boat, right, You're. 34 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.680 In the You're in like the boat where like if 35 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.680 you want to vomit, it'll go right off the edge. 36 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:56.120 Okay, all right, But like a master state room with 37 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.799 two levels and a slide. For me, it's just like 38 00:01:58.799 --> 00:01:59.879 a carnival. 39 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.200 Of what it takes to do that. 40 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.239 And I don't want to. Uh. I don't wanna pick 41 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:11.360 teams here, but can you know some did a lot 42 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:13.599 of them did that, but a lot of them went okay, 43 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.360 uh you know, I touch base. Uh, I mean I'm here, 44 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:20.400 I'm done. Others were like, you know what, let me uh, 45 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.439 let me go, let me go walk in that direction 46 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.360 until I hit something insurmountable or untouched. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.800 let's go. So I used to make fun of my 48 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.039 Minnesota friends, like my family homestead it here. I'm like, yeah, 49 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:39.000 mine didn't give up, not yet kept trucking. But you know, 50 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:41.599 regardless of it, the you know, the whole idea that 51 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.719 you could as Ross just said, go look at everything 52 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:48.919 around you, and not because you're on you know, like 53 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.639 the FBI's most Wanted list, just to look at everybody 54 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.840 and go, you know, this isn't working out. You may 55 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:58.879 never get worried about whether I even survive the passage 56 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:03.319 for years, for years, if you get it at all, 57 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.680 nice knowing you and then boom off you go. Now, 58 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.240 whether the motivation was that, whether the motivation was privateering 59 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:19.039 or you know, having your name on something so that 60 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.919 so that you know, a half century later, a bunch 61 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.159 of college kids on eighty thousand dollars tuition could push 62 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:33.039 your statue over and write fascist on it. Yeah, that's 63 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.719 that's when you know you made it. Whether the rich, 64 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.960 you know, it's the riches, that could be looted from 65 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:46.520 conquered lands. Whatever your motivation to sit there and say 66 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.039 that it didn't have an impact on history. And yes, 67 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:53.879 even that history is the history of the nations that 68 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.560 you know, the various nations or nation states if you will, 69 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:02.360 of these tribes that were here had an impact, and 70 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.960 not everybody's impact was positive. That's where the debate comes 71 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:12.560 in for from a long term standpoint one, you can't 72 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.840 tell me that, uh, you know, the New World would 73 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:20.920 have been undiscovered, nobody ever would have got here right 74 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.879 there we were going to get from Uh you know what, 75 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.680 let's let's go ahead leave him alone. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 76 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.920 we'll we'll be over here. We'll just evolve, especially as 77 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:38.279 we continue to evolve within Europe. I don't know like 78 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.920 that is. That's why history is not something that you 79 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:42.519 can sit here and go, you know, I have one 80 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.079 hundred percent lock on this and that guy was a 81 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:52.000 you know, a pox blanket giver and uh ignore ignore 82 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.480 the reality of it. So uh anyway, that's today. 83 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.800 People don't realize how small his boats were either. 84 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.360 No, dude, that is if you I have seen the 85 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.160 three boats the uh. 86 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.800 Right, you're pitching your big boats and they were not 87 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:06.519 big at all. 88 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:10.920 Yeah, no, they had they have they have one that 89 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.120 is that in Saint Augustine. I don't know if they 90 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.399 still have it. Saint Augustine, they have his flagship. They 91 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.160 obviously don't have it, have a recreation of it. Yeah, 92 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.360 you're like, I've been I've I've deep see trolled on 93 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.839 bigger boats than that. 94 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:26.439 That's the one I saw. There was one of those 95 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.560 Josh Gates shows, you know, the guy who explores and 96 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.120 looks for I like, I like the shows, we enjoy them. 97 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:32.800 And like he was on that. He was on an 98 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.319 on that island, I believe, with the with the recreation 99 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.439 of the ship and his scale and the thing was tiny, 100 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.279 like you expected to be this ginormous boat that you 101 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:44.079 heard about, you know when you were a kid, and like, no. 102 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.800 Dude, you don't have any dudes are on here right? 103 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:47.279 Right? 104 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:53.600 Yeah, just and and and and and remember in the 105 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:59.879 minds of some of them, they're like, we're sailing to nothing, right, 106 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.480 Remember this this is the time when on the map 107 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:07.079 it just said, you know, here be dragons, right, and 108 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:08.920 you're like, let's sail in that direction. 109 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:10.519 Right, Maybe I mean, maybe maybe we won't maybe the 110 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.600 dragons are guarding gold. I like, how you incentivize that crew, 111 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:14.079 I don't know. 112 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.519 And they're saying one of the boats. He The theory 113 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:19.120 is he purposefully destroyed one of the boats, like he 114 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:23.199 sailed into a reef and they made like a like 115 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.040 a shelter out of it. And the reason he did 116 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.480 it was so he'd have a reason to go back. 117 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.680 I mean, you know, hey, we have to go back 118 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.160 and get the guys in the boat that accidentally slammed 119 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:33.680 into the reef. 120 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:39.240 It kind of sounds like weapons of mass destruction, right, No, No, 121 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.360 you know the Pearl Harbor theory rights trying to think 122 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.480 of some of the conspiracy like, oh they did intentionally, 123 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.519 Like yeah, yeah, he knew what Pearl Harbor was gonna 124 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:47.920 get bombed. He just wanted the reason to get in 125 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:52.199 the war. I don't know. I don't know. You remember 126 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:53.879 how hard it was for those dudes to drum up 127 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:55.959 money for stuff. They couldn't just go to Congress and 128 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.839 bribe their way into appropriations. No, you had to not 129 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.959 irritated monarch, who at the time were very fond of, 130 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:08.040 you know, dealing with people that irritated them. Not only 131 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.399 was it a reason to go back. But it's also uh, 132 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.439 you know, it's it's an amazing story too. You're like, yeah, no, no, no, 133 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.279 we found a place. What's on it? Well, we don't know. 134 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.199 We had to make a camp. It's rustic. 135 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.199 But here's some of the stuff I brought back before 136 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.240 we go back and rescue these dudes. And oh, by 137 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:23.519 the way, this is called coffee. 138 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:26.279 Do you think of this? Oh? Look at that. You're 139 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.040 up not a warning person, are now? I hope you're 140 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.959 not so invigorated you want to like guillotine people here. 141 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.040 You want us to go get some more. And it 142 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.120 was at that point he told the first woman in 143 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.360 history became addicted to Starbucks? Did you even think about that? 144 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.040 Right? Yeah? 145 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.120 About what happened that on that fateful day. Oh and 146 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.160 by the way, these people haven't discovered metal, so yeah, 147 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.399 well I'm sure they've seen it. They have now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 148 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.759 Now that's forever. Your husband, who's ever slept for a 149 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:04.360 pumpkin spice latte because your pregnant wife doesn't want to 150 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:10.560 leave because it's cold out, understandable. Thank Columbus, today's your day. 151 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:16.079 You're welcome, all right. See I tie this this actually 152 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.319 now I'm now, I'm less. Now push I'm like pushing 153 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:20.959 a statue down. Pumpkins spice latte. This is how we 154 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:26.240 got here, the pumpkin spicing of America. It's Columbus, that 155 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.839 absolute terrorist. I'll be back hang on. That might have 156 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:33.240 triggered you there, sir, I'm sorry, I just look I 157 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.200 I'm not here to to sit here in debate. Let 158 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.360 me ask you a question. Do you think that the 159 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.399 the establishment of the United States, uh, through the course 160 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.279 of history has been overall right? People are like, oh, 161 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.240 I remember a time they did this. Do you think 162 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:53.039 it's been a net positive for world society? That's the bigger, 163 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.519 broader question. Do you think that the existence of the 164 00:08:55.639 --> 00:09:01.159 United States over the course of even its colonial days 165 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:06.039 under British rule and then eventually its own thing? But remember, 166 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.559 it took the it took colonial rule, and it took 167 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:12.399 you know, the king being the king, and the sensibilities 168 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.759 of the people who've come there. And in retrospect, if 169 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.919 you think about it, it's not a great way if 170 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:25.519 you are a a ruler, right one dude in charge 171 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.200 filling your country or your your territory or whatever it 172 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.960 is with a bunch of people who are who are 173 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:39.240 almost primarily motivated by individualism and you know, willing to 174 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.799 do their own thing and suffer the wounds that go 175 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.600 with that. It's not a recipe for you staying in 176 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.320 charge very long because you've now collected a mindset, you've 177 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.759 conducted a science experiment where you've got all these folks 178 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:57.159 here who frankly don't necessarily like who's in charge? Right 179 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:01.320 if you're fleeing for for a religious problem, uh, persecution 180 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.919 almost said prostitution, but hey, you know what, people had 181 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:11.440 their reasons and and and you reject that eventually, it's 182 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.200 it's the it is. Those lessons are going to be 183 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.480 taught to their kids and the next kids. And then 184 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:19.679 you're gonna pull some crap and be like, hey, doesn't 185 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:21.679 that that's kind of like the crap that made us? Uh, 186 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.279 you know, forget everyone we ever knew and come over here. 187 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.679 You're going to lead to this. So it is inarguable 188 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.600 that the you know, the the pieces that set up 189 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:41.759 the eventual populating of this country and and this in 190 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.000 this area for that matter. Obviously it was far more 191 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.600 impactful than just the United States, But like that was 192 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:52.600 the driving force there, that that's what they end, you know. 193 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.320 And and again it wasn't as though they were rolling 194 00:10:55.440 --> 00:11:00.360 up on the happy scenes from you know, f Troop 195 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:06.159 or or you know, pick any movie they were rolling 196 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.879 up One of the things I suspect you guys probably 197 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.759 didn't cover a lot in in you know, the North 198 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.120 Carolina version of US history. And it's fine, this is 199 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.720 a purely regional thing. We go a little deeper and 200 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:22.080 grow when you grow up in Wyoming, and you go 201 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.600 a little deeper because you do so much on westward 202 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.600 expansion and really the establishment of the territory in the 203 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:30.759 area in which you're living. To talk about what was 204 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:34.919 our understanding of the expansion of the crow and and 205 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.679 really the territorial wars among the nations up there in 206 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:39.840 the Western United States. I mean, there was a time 207 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.399 that they thought they had what is now the predominant 208 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:47.200 tribe in Montana essentially wiped out through expansion right just 209 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:51.279 through brutal battles. And then eventually they they kind of 210 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.200 had to make like super tribes because they were such 211 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.720 aggressive Ahole tribes further south they were trying to expand 212 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.200 up or I mean, it feels a lot like European history, 213 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:06.399 though done through different types of warfare and on a 214 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:10.759 different scale. Right, And so now you're bringing those ideals 215 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.279 as you're attempted to it. I know, you know, Columbus 216 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.879 wasn't in there dealing with Montana and Wyoming tribes, but 217 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.440 definitively those same things are what he was presented there. 218 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.440 There are accounts of where they were welcomed with open arms, 219 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:26.480 and did they return the favor on all instant. 220 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:26.600 No. 221 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.600 Sometimes they did, though, and then there were other times 222 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:33.759 where there's like, hey, how you doing. Yeah, we talked 223 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.799 to your buddies up there, and they said that you 224 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:37.720 like this stuff, so we brought you the stud all 225 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.120 you're murdering all my people. Right, You didn't know what 226 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.799 was around there, but it wasn't something that was unique 227 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.759 just to what was going on there. This is at 228 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.240 the same time that you're still dealing with the EBB 229 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.639 and flow and expansion of you know, Muslims conquering parts 230 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:59.200 of Europe, seating over North Africa, expansion closing the gap 231 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:03.080 on what previously been the Silk Road, which eventually set 232 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.440 up population centers and grew these major cities on these 233 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.519 pilgrim trails. I mean, this stuff is still actively going 234 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.320 on at the time, and it's and it's you know, 235 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:19.200 and it's all fascinating. And yet I I, I, who 236 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.480 nerd out on history, am not allowed to process it 237 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:26.480 because we don't want that holiday there. Yeah, well what 238 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.720 are we doing with that holiday? It is inarguable if 239 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.960 you think that America's if you think America has not 240 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.559 been a net positive forety society, I don't know what 241 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.440 I can do for you. We're just gonna have to 242 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.440 agree to disagree. But I think it has. I think 243 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.200 most people, even with all the problems that they have 244 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.840 with it, and and and you know, the the horrific 245 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:47.759 stuff that's also part of the American story, it is 246 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:52.240 inarguable that the influence of the United States as at 247 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.840 the very least been felt by every country in the 248 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:59.200 world short those uh, the dudes over there on North 249 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.600 Set and all Island. Although to be fair, like two 250 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.720 of the people they that we know they've murdered have 251 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.159 been from the North American continent, So I don't know, 252 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.039 maybe they you know, they weren't able to ignore. Do 253 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:14.039 you believe that? Then you have to understand the importance 254 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:18.159 of what Columbus Day symbolizes. And it's not just Columbus. 255 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.879 All right, probably, all right, go ahead and try to 256 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.159 cancel me for that. Do whatever you're gonna do. I 257 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.120 know you're very busy, all of you moonbats this morning, 258 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:32.279 all right, eight eight eight nine three four seven eight 259 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.000 seven four, all right, coming up on the show, because 260 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:39.600 I rambled on about that, Like the more I read 261 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:44.679 on this dude outside of you know, in the Palm 262 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.600 Springs area there for the Trump prowley in California, the 263 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.519 more I read about this guy, and then I read 264 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.879 other people commenting about him, like he didn't strike me 265 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.799 as somebody who was he was a would be Trump assassin, 266 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.480 And frankly, I don't Normally I don't understand why Fox 267 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.559 is still using that. I guess they're using that language 268 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:08.200 because federal officials are but like people. This dude sounds 269 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:14.000 like a super sovereign citizen. Dude, this sounds this and 270 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:17.559 which which makes it that much more dumb. Look, I 271 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:20.600 don't agree with all of the laws that they have 272 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.600 in California, especially as they pertain to firearms. I'm smart 273 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:27.080 enough to know that you don't go trapesing around with 274 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.000 a bunch of weapons at a security checkpoint going to 275 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.840 an event especially in the state of California. Any event, 276 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.679 but let alone an event for somebody who's recently been 277 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.279 you know, winged at one of his one of his 278 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.360 own events. It's not going to end well for you. 279 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.960 Because I see people like Mindy Robinson and others like, now, 280 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:53.000 this is our guy, and I understand from a sovereign 281 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.720 citizen perspective, You're like, oh, these laws don't apply to me. 282 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.559 I didn't consent to him, and I'm not here to 283 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.440 get into a debate about it. I'm just I'm one 284 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.000 of these people who's like, all right, let's figure this out. Rationally, 285 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.960 was this thing a thing? And if it is a thing, 286 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.279 what is the motivation. That's why I get so frustrated 287 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:10.279 when they do things like, well, we can't put the 288 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.600 manifesto out because you know the dangers, and I'm like, 289 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:15.639 I just want to understand this. 290 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:17.000 You know, I was thinking the same thing about the 291 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.120 sovereign citizen, right, Yeah, you've seen this all all the 292 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:20.320 time on life people. 293 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.679 I see these videos out, Yeah, I see these videos out. Yeah, 294 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:24.200 they're amazing. 295 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.200 They always have like a fake license plate that they 296 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.200 print out and which he did, right, And then a 297 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.320 lot of them always have, you know, weapons like they're 298 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:34.200 super ultra libertarians, right and yeah, and it's just like 299 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.919 the law doesn't apply to me. I'm not a citizen, 300 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.120 I'm a traveler. All this nonsense that always gets you know, 301 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.240 they try to defend themselves in court. It never goes 302 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.240 their way because it's all ridiculous. But I was reading too, 303 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:47.720 I think it was the same thing for me. What 304 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.480 you said, Mindy Robinson Mandy Robinson, Yeah, I think she 305 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:51.960 was the one I was reading where she said he 306 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.039 has ties to the old Bundy Ranch incident. 307 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He's he's he's flush with 308 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.720 those dudes. And you know, and I've gotten uh, people, 309 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.359 I have my thoughts about the Bundy Rams thing, and 310 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:09.200 I can approach it actually from somebody who's also also 311 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.359 understand And I tried to explain this. I said, you know, 312 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:14.400 there's a lot of people who don't like Bundy who 313 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.240 probably think about the government the way that he does. 314 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.240 That also are stock producers out in the Western United States. 315 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.599 We share the frustration, especially those of us who have 316 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.519 property that used to be part of our family, homesteaded 317 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.599 property for generations, and then they're like, you know, put 318 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.279 some national force over here and some other stuff. We're 319 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.160 going to start a reclamation process, reclaiming these lands. Thanks 320 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.000 for taking care of them, not yours anymore, and so 321 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:42.799 we have to go. We have are grazing, We have 322 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.400 grazing permits that we have to have to graze on 323 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:52.200 land that we owned, that the family doesn't own anymore. 324 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.440 That's the reality of it. And we don't necessarily like 325 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.559 the system. We don't like the level of federal land ownership, 326 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.920 and in Ata is the worst they have. I think 327 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.240 in the lower forty. I think maybe Alaska is a 328 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:09.000 percentage is more federally owned, but I'm sure it is, 329 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:15.559 but not by much. And so like we and we 330 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.799 can quibble over those. But that's where this guy's head's at. 331 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:23.880 He's not there to to grease Trump, who knows why 332 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:27.200 I was there, But yeah, for them to assassination attempt, 333 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.039 I'm not convinced of that, I guess is what I 334 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:31.440 would say. 335 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:33.000 Last I was reading to him out of change. But 336 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:36.480 I believe the Trump campaign wasn't calling it an assassination attempt. 337 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.440 No, And you know, I don't know that that's politics. 338 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.240 I think that's just the reality of it. You didn't 339 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.960 think this guy's a lunatic. That's fine, I think, you know, 340 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.400 trying to trying to get in within a security perimeter 341 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:51.759 with fake license plate, which is what started this, by 342 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:53.200 the way, I don't know if you know this. It's 343 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.039 the the fake license plate is really what ramped everything up. 344 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:00.799 And then once that was on there, now they're going 345 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.799 to get into it. And rightfully so, by the way, 346 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:06.119 right you got a guy coming through a security checkpoint. 347 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.240 He's he's got himself an HP printer and actually had 348 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:13.359 some ink for once. And and that's not that, that's 349 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.839 sus as the kids say. So you know, go ahead 350 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.960 and look into that. But I don't know, I haven't 351 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.680 seen any crazy writings. And frankly, if you wanted a 352 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.720 dude to Patsy, that'd be an easy dude to Patsy Man, right, 353 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.480 because he's probably written some stuff that's you know, in 354 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.480 some online form be like, oh, look there's where his 355 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.480 head's at, you know, a lot of Tree of Liberty 356 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:37.359 stuff or something. 357 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.359 Yeah, there's old video of him at the RNC talking 358 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:41.240 about like his one thing he was pissed off about 359 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.200 was that it wasn't he couldn't use just use cash. 360 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.839 It was all cashless at the rn c OH. 361 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:50.480 I hated that, dude. And you know what, and I 362 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.119 don't know if that's the old man in me or 363 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.559 either this stuff's legally tender or not. I told you 364 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:59.599 I'd never flown through the Jet Blue terminal up at 365 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:05.319 but Kennedy and I flew through last year on a flight, 366 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:09.920 and the entire terminal and I mean this the entire terminal. 367 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.519 And for those of you who uh uh no, it was, yeah, 368 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:14.160 it was Kennedy. 369 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:14.519 Yeah. 370 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.599 It's really hard to go to another terminal there and 371 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:20.759 and get back because you have to leave security and 372 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.960 then come back. And so I'm stuck in the Jet 373 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:26.480 Blue turnal, which is nice and new, and I realized 374 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.559 not only is it cash, you have to do all 375 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.720 the ordering through apps. So even though you walk into 376 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.079 this restaurant, you know, it looks like a bar restaurant, 377 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.440 like steakhouse kind of place, go in there and there's 378 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.119 a guy behind there, and you just logically assume that, like, hey, 379 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.480 how you doing, kind of see here's the menus, that's 380 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.079 what's up this And this is not during COVID, but 381 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.880 it was really open during COVID, so it and they're like, oh, no, 382 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.759 you got to scan this QR on the bar. I'm 383 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.839 not going to talk to you and then only to 384 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:54.839 have questions and then order it and then I'll bring 385 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.160 it to you. And the guy was nice, don't get 386 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.279 me wrong, but he was like, now this is the process. 387 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.039 And I realized as I went there and I went 388 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.079 another couple places, is you can't use cash there at all. 389 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:06.640 And I don't know, I'm one of these weird people 390 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.119 likes to use cash for little stuff. I don't know 391 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:11.119 why it is. So when I went over and got 392 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:13.359 like a water over at the you know, the little 393 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.160 news whatever it is that's in all the airports, Oh no, 394 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.279 I'm sorry, sure, everything, And then even then you don't 395 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:22.279 even get in line to talk to a person. Really, 396 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.559 so I share the frustration. This dude sounds a little 397 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.759 more passionate about it, but you know, everybody's got their thing. Frankly, 398 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.920 that's a harmless thing, right, because he's probably right, you 399 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.559 should take cash. I remember people used to be so 400 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:41.359 you remember back in the day that especially greasy spoon 401 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.480