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Speaker 1: I want you to picture something for a second. It's

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a mundane tuesday. Maybe you're out walking your dog in

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the woods behind your house, or maybe you're in your

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backyard finally getting around to digging that hole for the

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new apple tree you bought. Or maybe you're just standing

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on a beach skipping a stone across the water. You

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are completely zoned out thinking about what to make for dinner,

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or that email you forgot to send, and then clink

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your shovel hit something hard, or your dog falls into

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a hole that wasn't there yesterday, and in that split second,

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you haven't just found a rock or a root. You

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found a thread that, once pulled, unravels thousands of years

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of human history.

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Speaker 2: It is a terrifying and exhilarating thought, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: We like to think of history as this carefully curated

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library where we know where all the books are and

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they are alphabetized. Yeah, But the reality is we are

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walking on top of a massive, silent, chaotic archive. And

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sometimes the librarian isn't a PhD with a brush and

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a trowel. Sometimes the librarian is a goat or storm

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or sheer dumb. Look.

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of a goat as a librarian.

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Welcome to thrilling threads. We are pulling on those loose

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strings of history to see what unravels. I like that

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today isn't about the planned expeditions or the dusty academic

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papers where everyone knows what they are looking for. It

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is about the sheer blind luck that has given us

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some of our greatest treasures.

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Speaker 2: Serendipity is the word of the day. We are looking

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at how accidents pure chants have shaped our understanding of

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the human story.

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Speaker 1: I honestly love this topic because it makes you wonder

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what we're missing. If these massive discoveries were accidents, what

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are we walking past every day?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is currently under a parking lot in

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Ohio exactly? That is the question that keeps archaeologists up

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at night. We are going to explore ten specific ancient

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discoveries found entirely by.

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Speaker 1: Accident, and our mission here isn't just a list cool

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stuff found in the dirt. We want to understand how

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these accidents forced us to rewrite the textbooks on religon,

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technology and daily life in the ancient world. We are

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going to look at the chemistry, the mechanics, and the

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sociology behind these fines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting into the weeds on this.

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Speaker 1: And just so everyone knows, we are pulling this directly

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from a collection of historical accounts, forensic reports, and archaeological

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records regarding accidental finds. We have got the facts, we

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have got the dates, but we are going to read

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between the lines a bit.

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Speaker 2: Shall we start digging?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it so. Our first section involves the people

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who are arguably most intimate with the land, farmers. You're

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tilling the soil looking for a crop, and you find

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an empire.

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Speaker 2: This brings us to nineteen seventy four in China's a

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shunk Se.

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Speaker 1: Province, right, and the setting is crucial here. It's not

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a glamorous treasure hunt.

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Speaker 2: It is a drought, a really bad one.

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Speaker 1: These farmers are desperate. They aren't looking for gold, They

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are looking for water. They are digging a well near

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the city of Sheen.

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Speaker 2: It is a survival situation. And as they are digging,

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their shovels strike hardened earth. Now, if you are a farmer,

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you know the difference between a rock and something else,

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something manufactured exactly. They start pulling up fragments.

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Speaker 1: At first, they think it's just broken pottery, right, like, oh, great.

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Speaker 2: Old trash exactly. But then they look closer. These aren't

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just pot shods. These are pieces of sculpted human faces. Wow, torsos,

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and bronze weapons.

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Speaker 1: I want to pause on the moment of discovery. Farmers

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digging a well, we usually picture them pulling up a

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clay pot, but you mentioned weapons. Bronze weapons buried for

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two millennia usually come out looking like green lumps of corrosion,

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but these didn't.

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Speaker 2: That is the detail that baffled scientists for decades. When

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they pulled out the swords and arrowheads, specifically the Kin swords,

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they were.

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Speaker 1: Pristine, pristine, how shiny.

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Speaker 2: Sharp enough to split a hair for roughly forty years.

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The prevailing theory was that the Kin dynasty had figured

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out a form of anti rest technology that we didn't

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reinvent until the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about chrome plating exactly.

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Speaker 2: Chrome plating tests and then I teen seventies showed traces

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of chromium on the blades, So the narrative became ancient

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Speaker 1: Plating, which is a huge story.

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Speaker 2: It was a huge story. It fit perfectly with the

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narrative of the Kin as technological savants. But and here

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is where modern science ruins a good story. A study

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in twenty nineteen completely flipped this.

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Speaker 1: How do you disprove chrome plating that is physically.

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Speaker 2: There by looking at where the chromium was. It wasn't

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evenly distributed on the blades like a plating process would be.

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It was clumpy, and crucially, it was found mostly near

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the handles where the wooden fittings used to be.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't on the tip of the sword.

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Speaker 2: Right. It turns out that chromium wasn't technology, it was contamination.

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The Kin used a specific lacquer to treat the wooden handles,

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which was rich in chromium. As the wood rotted over

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two thousand years, it leached onto the metal.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a high tech rustproofing recipe.

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Speaker 2: No, the preservation was actually due to something much more

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mundane but equally lucky, the soil chemistry. The pH level

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of the she and soil is exceptionally high and is

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very dense. It essentially vacuum sealed the bronze, preventing oxidation.

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Speaker 1: Actually makes it more impressive to me. It means the

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miracle was the earth itself. But let's go back to

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the faces. You mentioned individuality.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thousands of them, and no two are alike.

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Speaker 1: I've read that some historians think they weren't just modeled

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on real people, but that there was a quota system involved.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is the logistics of eternity. You don't build

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eight thousand unique statues without a supply chain. That would

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make Amazon jealous. I mean, the scale is just it's staggering.

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We have found inscriptions on the backs of the statues,

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essentially made by stamps. They tracked output by workshop. If

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a batch of soldiers was substandard, the emperor's overseers knew

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exactly which artisan to execute.

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Speaker 1: So the variety in the faces, the different earshapes, the hairstyles.

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Speaker 2: In a way. Yes, it was a method of accountability.

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It also suggests that every single soldier in the real

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army was considered a distinct asset to the emperor. Historians

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estimate hundreds of thousands of workers spent decades constructing this.

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Speaker 1: You just rewrote our understanding of ancient Chinese craftsmanship and

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the absolute control of the emperor held totally. And here

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is where it gets really interesting or maybe really scary.

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The emperor's main tomb is still sealed. Right, We've only

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seen the army.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, The main event the central tomb mound. We

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haven't opened it.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Well, historical records from a historian named Sima Kian mentioned

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rivers of mercury flowing beneath the tomb, simulating the Great

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Speaker 1: Rivers of mercury. That sounds like a myth, like something

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out of a fantasy novel.

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Speaker 2: People thought so for centuries, but then they did soil

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tests and they found unusually high levels of mercury in

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the area directly above the tomb, sometimes one hundred times

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the normal rate.

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Speaker 1: Hit nop.

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Speaker 2: It suggests the legends might be true. So the terra

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cotta army, as massive as it is, might just be

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Speaker 1: And to think, if those farmers hadn't been thirsty in

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nineteen seventy four, we might still be walking over their

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heads today.

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Speaker 2: One careless shovel strike changed history.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to another group of farmers, this time in

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Turkey in nineteen ninety four. This one really flips the

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timeline of civilization on its head.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about go Beckley Teppe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so similar setup in a way. Farmers in southeastern

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Turkey are plowing their fields, they keep hitting these large

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carved stones. Now, for decades, people just thought this was

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medieval rubble, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, It was just some old rocks, broken gravestones. Maybe

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until archaeologist Klaus Schmidt examined the site in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Four, and he knew right away.

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Speaker 2: He took one look and realized, this is not medieval,

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and this is certainly not rubble.

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Speaker 1: What made and so sure? What was the giveaway?

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Speaker 2: The shape in the style? These were massive T shaped

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limestone pillars, some weighing up to fifty tons, and they

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were buried deliberately.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean deliberately?

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Speaker 2: This wasn't a destroyed building that collapsed. It was a

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site that had been carefully filled in with dirt by

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the people who built it, presuming it.

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Speaker 1: What did he find when they started digging properly?

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Speaker 2: He found what is now considered the oldest known temple

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in the world. But the significance here isn't just the age,

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which is staggering it's the implication.

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Speaker 1: Break that down for us. Why does this place matter

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so much?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the conventional timeline of human history went like this. First,

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we invented farming the Neolithic revolution. Because we had farming,

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we could settle down in one place. Because we settled down,

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we developed religion in complex society. So farming leads to civilization.

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Speaker 1: Here you get the bread, then you get the church exactly.

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Speaker 2: But Goubicle Tepi throws a grenade into that timeline. These

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massive pillars arranged in circles with intricate carvings of animals.

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They were built by hunter gatherers. Hunter gatherers people who

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Speaker 1: So they built the temple before they built the farm.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the theory now is that the need to

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feed the massive workforce required to build this temple actually

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drove the invention of farming.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge shift. So religion didn't come from civilization.

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Speaker 2: Civilization precisely organized religion and ritual. The desired to congregate

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may have been the spark that forced us to settle

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down and domesticate wheat. Wow, and get this. Genetic studies

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show that the closest wild relative of modern domestic wheat

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grows right near gubiicly Tepe.

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Speaker 1: The evidence is right there.

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Speaker 2: It's all pointing in the same direction.

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Speaker 1: There's also a darker theory emerging about this place. I

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read something about skulls.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, the skull cult. It's not all peaceful spiritual gatherings.

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Recent excavations found human skull fragments with deep grooves carved

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Speaker 1: Grooves for what.

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Speaker 2: The thinking is. They suggest the skulls were suspended, maybe

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with ropes or displayed. So while we call it a temple,

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which sounds peaceful, it might have been a place of intense,

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perhaps terrifying ritual.

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Speaker 1: So not a church, more like a site for ancestor worship.

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Speaker 2: Or a necropolis. Yeah, a place involving defleshed bones. It

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really complicates the picture.

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Speaker 1: It makes you look at a pile of rocks and

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a feel a little differently. It completely overturned established history,

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and again it was hiding in plain sight, annoying farmers

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who just wanted to plow their fields.

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Speaker 2: It certainly does all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's move from farmers to our next category of accidental archaeologists.

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This one is my favorite category. Animals.

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Speaker 2: Animals have a knack for finding things we overlook. They

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don't care about history. They care about smells and holes exactly.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to France nineteen forty. World War two is raging,

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but in the French countryside, four teenage boys are just

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hanging out.

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Speaker 2: With their dog, a very famous dog named.

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Speaker 1: Robot, Robot the Dog. So the dog falls down a hole.

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The boys, being good dog owners, try to widen the hole.

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Speaker 2: To rescue him, and in doing so, they slip into

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a vast underground cave system.

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Speaker 1: And they aren't met with bats and damp walls. Well

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maybe damp walls, but the walls are covered in art.

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Speaker 2: This is the discovery of the Alasco Cave paintings. We

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Speaker 1: Well kind of.

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Speaker 2: Animals, bulls, horses, deer, bison, huge powerful animals and also

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abstract symbols that we still don't fully understand.

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Speaker 1: And this wasn't just doodles, far from it.

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Speaker 2: That's the key. These paintings are dated to roughly seventeen

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thousand years ago, during the Upper Paleolithic period, but the

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quality it's stunned the world.

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Speaker 1: The source mentions they used techniques that people thought were

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impossible for that time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they used mineral pigment's iron oxide for red, manganese

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oxide for black. But they also used shading, perspective and contouring.

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make the animals look three dimensional.

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Speaker 1: It's sophisticated, incredibly. I've heard about the animation theory.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain that this is fascinating? In the flickering

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light of a torch or a grease s lamp, the

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images appear to move. What do you mean The multiple

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legs drawn on some of the animals create a strobing

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effect when the light source moves. It's essentially proto cinema.

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Speaker 1: No way.

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Speaker 2: They weren't just painting pictures. They were creating an immersive,

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moving experience, a ritual.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. I think we have this stereotype of

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the caveman as this grunting blute who hits things.

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Speaker 2: With clubs, and Lasco shattered that myth. It proved that

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prehistoric people possessed complex symbolic thinking, ritual behavior, and artistic mastery.

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They weren't just surviving. They were observing and creating beauty.

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Speaker 1: There's a tragic irony to this story, though there is

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a very sad one.

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Speaker 2: The discovery was so exciting that thousands of people flocked

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to see it after the war. But human breath creates

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moisture and carbon dioxide. The artificial lights introduced heat and

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encouraged algae growth. And then came the white sickness, a

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calcite fungus bred by the bacteria on visitors shoes.

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Speaker 1: We loved it to death.

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Speaker 2: We did our presence began destroying the paintings rapidly. Authorities

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had to close the cave to the public in nineteen

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sixty three to save it.

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Speaker 1: It's a heavy lesson. We found it, but our curiosity

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almost erased it.

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Speaker 2: Luckily they've built exact replicas Lasco the Fafth, so we

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can still experience what those boys found, but the original

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is now sealed away, protected by silence.

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Speaker 1: Again, from a dog in Franz to a goat in

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the Judean desert, this is arguably one of the most

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famous accidental discoveries of all time.

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Speaker 2: The Dead Sea Scrolls nineteen forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Set the scene for us.

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Speaker 2: A Bedouin shepherd Mohammed ed deeb. He is searching the

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cliffs near the Dead Sea for a lost goat classic

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he sees a small cave opening. Now he doesn't want

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to climb down there if the goat isn't there, So

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he does what anyone would do. He throws a rock

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into the.

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Speaker 1: Dark, hoping to hear a bleat right.

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Speaker 2: But instead of a bleat, he hears the unmistakable sound

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of pottery shattering.

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Speaker 1: That sound must have stopped him cold. That's not a

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goat sound.

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Speaker 2: Curiosity took over. He climbs in and finds tall clay jars,

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some still sealed inside our ancient scrolls wrapped in linen.

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Speaker 1: Did he know he had just found the archaeological equivalent

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of winning the lottery?

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Speaker 2: Not at all. He had no idea. The scrolls were

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eventually sold to antiquity dealers for a pittance before scholars realized.

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Speaker 1: What they actually were and what were they exactly.

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Speaker 2: Over nine hundred documents, they date from roughly three hundred

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BCE to one hundred CE. They include texts from the

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Hebrew Bible, religious rules, hymns, and writings from a Jewish

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sect believed to be the a.

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Speaker 1: Scenes and the significance here is the age right.

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Speaker 2: It is a time jump. Before this discovery, the oldest

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complete biblical manuscripts we had were the Aleppo Codex or

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the Leningrad Codex from the tenth century AD.

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Speaker 1: Tenth century eighty and these are from three hundred BCE.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. We jumped back over one thousand years in a

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single moment. And the shocking thing was.

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Speaker 1: The accuracy right, Because for centuries people assumed that the

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Bible had changed like a game of telephone, you know,

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monks making mistakes, changing words.

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Speaker 2: That was the assumption, a reasonable one. But when they

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compared the Great Isaiah scroll found in the cave with

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the version we have today from a thousand years later,

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they were nearly identical.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about minor spelling variations or grammatical shifts,

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but the core text was preserved with astonishing fidelity, that.

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Speaker 1: Is mind boggling. The Lost Goat led to a revolution

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in biblical scholarship.

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Speaker 2: It deepened our understanding of early Judaism and provided critical

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context for the origins of Christianity. It showed us the

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apocalyptic mindset of the time. These scenes were expecting the

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end of the world, which is why they hid the.

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Speaker 1: Scrolls and the simple act of throwing a rock started

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it all.

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Speaker 2: A very lucky throw, okay.

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Speaker 1: Section three Hidden in plain sight. These are discoveries that

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were right there, but we either didn't see them or

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we were looking for something else. Entirely, we've got war, weather,

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and vegetation playing the role of the archaeologist here.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with War seventeen ninety nine Egypt.

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Speaker 1: Napoleon is on the move.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Napoleon Bonaparte's came campaign. French soldiers are reinforcing Fort

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Julian near the town of Rosetta, so it's.

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Speaker 1: A military operation totally.

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Speaker 2: They aren't looking for art. They are digging in to

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build defenses against the British and the Ottomans.

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Speaker 1: They are looking for rocks to build a wall.

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Speaker 2: And they find one, a black stone slab grenadier rite

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to be specific, embedded in an old wall. But this

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one is covered.

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Speaker 1: In inscriptions, the Rosetta Stone.

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Speaker 2: The soldiers, to their credit, realized it looked important. The

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stone featured the same text written in three different scripts,

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Ancient Greek, Demotic, Egyptian, and hieroglyphics.

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Speaker 1: And this was the key, right because nobody could read

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hieroglyphics anymore.

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Speaker 2: Exactly hieroglyphics had been unreadable for over fourteen hundred years.

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It was a dead language in the truest sense, but

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scholars could still read Ancient.

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Speaker 1: Greek, so it was a translation cheat sheet. But it

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was an instant right. It took a long time to crack.

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Speaker 2: It took decades. A lot of very smart people worked

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on it. The breakthrough came from Jean Francois Champoleon. He

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was the one who had the key insight. He realized

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that the hieroglyphs weren't just pictures ediograms, which is what

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everyone assumed, like a.

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Speaker 1: Picture of a bird means bird, right.

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Speaker 2: He realized they were also phonetic. They represented sounds like

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an alphabet.

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Speaker 1: Wait explain that.

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Speaker 2: So a picture of a bird wasn't necessarily the word bird,

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It might just represent the sound uh or ooh. Once

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he figured that out, using the names of kings like

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Ptolemy and Cleopatra that were circled in Cartouch's as the key,

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the whole language unlocked.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we take this for granted now, but

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imagine the moment that clicked. Suddenly, every temple wall, every tomb,

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every monument in Egypt went from being pretty pictures to history.

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Speaker 2: It literally gave a voice back to a civilization that

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had been silent. It transformed Egyptology overnight. We went from

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guessing to reading.

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Speaker 1: And it was found because soldiers needed to patch a wall.

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Speaker 2: Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's go from the desert to the jungle. Nineteen eleven.

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Speaker 2: Peru Hiram Bingham. He's an American historian and he is

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on a mission. He is looking for the lost stronghold

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of the Inca, a place called Vilca Bumba.

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Speaker 1: So he is looking for a specific city.

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Speaker 2: He has a goal, yes, a very specific one. He

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is searching for the last place the Incas held out

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against the Spanish. He is climbing through the Andes and

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local farmers guide him up a steep ridge.

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Speaker 1: And again, the locals knew it.

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Speaker 2: Was there, They absolutely did, they were farming on the terraces.

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But to the outside world, to the scientific community, it

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was unknown.

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Speaker 1: So Bingham climbs up, pushes through thick jungle vegetation, and finds.

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Speaker 2: Machu Pichu, a perfectly preserved city in the clouds.

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Speaker 1: It had been abandoned centuries earlier, likely.

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Speaker 2: Due to smallpox, before the Spanish even got there, which

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is why It wasn't destroyed by the conquistadors. They never

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found it.

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Speaker 1: That's the key. It wasn't plundered. But let's talk about

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the engineering. I was reading about how they built this

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on a fault line. Why build a stone city on

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a knife edge ridge in an earthquake zone.

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Speaker 2: It seems insane, doesn't it. But the Incas were master engineers.

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They used a technique called ashlarmi. The stones are cut

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so perfectly that they fit together without mortar. No mortar,

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but crucially, they aren't glued tight. When an earthquake hits,

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the stones dance, They vibrate and shake, and then settle

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back into place. If they had used mortar, the walls

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would have cracked and fallen.

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Speaker 1: So the lack of mortar is actually a seismic safety

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feature exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's genius. And the drainage that ridge gets massive rainfall.

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If they hadn't built a sophisticated underground drainage system to

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channel water away, the whole mountain slope would have slid

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off into the valley.

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Speaker 1: So the real magic is underground.

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Speaker 2: The engineering below the ground is just as impressive as

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the walls above.

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Speaker 1: But Bingham wasn't looking for it. He was looking for

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something else. He stumbled upon the jewel of the Inca Empire.

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Speaker 2: By mistake, he actually thought for a long time that

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Machu Pichu was bilk Obama. He died believing that.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So he found one of the wonders of

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the world and thought it was something else.

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Speaker 2: It makes you wonder how many other lost cities are

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just sitting. They're known to the locals, but unknown to

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the history books.

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Speaker 1: I suspect quite a few. Moving on to section four,

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the sea and the soil, This is where we see

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how accidents rewrote our understanding of technology and culture. Let's

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head to the ocean first.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen oh one, the island of Antikythera, Greece.

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Speaker 1: Sponge divers. I love that this is a profession.

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Speaker 2: A dangerous one. They were returning from a dive, but

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a storm hit a bad one. They took shelter off

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the coast of Antiquethrier, and.

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Speaker 1: Since they were stuck there waiting out the storm, they

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decided to do a little diving.

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Speaker 2: Might as well work while we weigh exactly.

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Speaker 1: They dive down and find a shipwreck. It's loaded with

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statues and pottery, but among the art they recovered these

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corroded bronze.

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Speaker 2: Fragments, just green, clumpy lumps of metal.

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Speaker 1: Initially they seemed insignificant compared to the beautiful statues, but

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closer examination and later X ray imaging revealed something shocking.

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Inside the corrosion were gears, dozens of them.

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Speaker 2: We throw around the word computer loosely has a chip

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in it. We call that a computer when we say

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the anti Cathera mechanism was an analog computer. What are

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we actually describing because I assume it didn't have a screen.

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Think of it as a gearbox, a gearbox of frightening complexity.

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The core of the mystery and the thing that shouldn't

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have existed in one hundred BC is a specific component

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called a differential gear.

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Speaker 1: Define that for the non engineers listening.

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Speaker 2: A differential allows two shafts to rotate at different speeds

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while powering a third shaft that represents the difference or

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some of those speeds. In your car, a differential allows

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your left and right wheels to spin at different speeds

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when you turn a corner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: We didn't think humans invented this mechanical concept until the

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sixteenth or seventeenth century, yet here it was sitting in

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a bronze box from ancient Greece.

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Speaker 1: So they use this car axle technology to do what

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drive the universe.

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Speaker 2: In a way, Yes, they needed to reconcile the cycles

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of the Moon with the cycles of the sun. The

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mechanism had a dial for the metonic cycle, a period

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of nineteen years where the lunar and solar calendars aligne

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but it also tracked the Sorrows cycle.

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Speaker 1: The Sorrow cycle.

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Speaker 2: It's an eighteen year cycle used to predict eclipses. But

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here is the kicker. The device didn't just tell you

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when an eclipse would happen. It told you what time

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of day I get this, what color the eclipse would be.

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Speaker 1: It predicted the color.

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Speaker 2: No yes, based on astrological winds and atmospheric refraction theories

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of the time. It had glyphs indicating if the moon

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would look red or black.

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Speaker 1: That is insane.

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Speaker 2: It was essentially a mechanical smartphone app for the cosmos,

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and the miniaturization is what scares archaeologists. The teeth on

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these gears are millimeter perfect triangles hand filed. If you

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mess up one tooth, the math of the universe.

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Speaker 1: Breaks It's like finding a jet engine in a medieval castle.

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Speaker 2: It's forced a total rethink of Greek technological sophistication. It

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proved that they weren't just philosophers and sculptors, they were

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master engineers. And it was sitting at the bottom of

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the ocean waiting for a storm to blow some sponge

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divers off.

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Speaker 1: Course from the bottom of the sea of the English

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Countryside nineteen thirty nine, Sutton who This.

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Speaker 2: Is a great story because it starts with a hunch.

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Edith Pretty a landowner in Suffolk. She has these large

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mounds of earth on her estate.

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Speaker 1: Right, just these big lumps in the ground, and she's curious.

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Speaker 2: It's not a professional university dig She just hires a

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local amateur archaeologist named Basil Brown.

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Speaker 1: I think there's something in my backyard. Can you take

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a look?

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Speaker 2: Basically, And what Basil Brown uncovered was the ghostly imprint

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of a ship.

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Speaker 1: I want to visualize this ghost ship properly, you said,

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the wood rotted away. So if I'm Basil Brown digging

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with a trowel, what am I actually seeing?

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Speaker 2: You are seeing a shadow. The acidic soil of Suffolk

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is incredibly aggressive toward organic matter, over thirteen hundred years,

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it ate every splinter of the oak timber okay, but

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as the wood turned to dust, it was replaced by

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sand that had been stained dark by the organic decay. Furthermore,

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the iron rivets the nail holding the ship together stayed

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exactly where.

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Speaker 1: They were, so it was like a connect the dots

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puzzle made.

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Speaker 2: Of rust precisely. Brown had to gingerly brush away the

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light sand to reveal the dark sand. If he had

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dug too hard, he would have shoveled right through the ship.

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He wasentually sculpting the negative space of a vessel that

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wasn't there anymore.

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Speaker 1: And inside this shadow ship.

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Speaker 2: A treasure that forced us to retire the term dark ages.

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Speaker 1: We always hear dark ages and think of people in

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mud huts forgetting how to read.

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Speaker 2: That was the Victorian bias. They looked at the fall

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of Rome and assumed civilization collapsed until the Renaissance. But

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Sutton revealed a globalized economy in six hundred AD. How So,

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we found garnets red gemstones that were chemically traced to

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Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: We found silverware from Byzantium, which is modern day Istanbul.

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We found bitwomen on the helmet that came from the

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Middle East.

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Speaker 1: So this primitive chieftain in England was wearing Sri Lankan

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gems and eating off Turkish plates.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It wasn't a time of darkness, It was a

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time of transition and vast trade network works. The craftsmanship

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of the gold shoulder clasps, using a technique called clisina,

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is so precise that modern jewelers struggle to replicate it

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without magnification.

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Speaker 1: And Edith Pritty just had a hunch.

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Speaker 2: A hunch and some spiritualism. She allegedly had dreams of

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warriors marching on the mounds. Whether you believe in ghosts

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or not, her intuition rewrote the history of early medieval Europe.

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Speaker 1: We're coming into the final stretch here Section five. Frozen Moments.

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These are discoveries born from catastrophe where time just stop.

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Speaker 2: And you cannot talk about frozen moments without talking about

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Pompeii and Herculaneum.

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Speaker 1: The ultimate time capsules seventy nine AD Mault Vesuvius erupts.

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Speaker 2: It buries these Roman cities under layers of ash and pummics.

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But the discovery story is actually really interesting because it

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happened twice right.

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Speaker 1: The first time was in fifteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Workers were digging an underground water channel. They hit walls

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covered in frescoes and Latin inscriptions.

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Speaker 1: And what did they do?

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Speaker 2: They didn't understand it, or perhaps the content. Remember Pompeii

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had a lot of erotic art was considered too scandalous

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for the time, so they reburied it.

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Speaker 1: They put it back. Nope, nothing to see here.

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Speaker 2: It hit snooze on the discovery for another one hundred

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and fifty years. It wasn't until seventeen forty eight that

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systematic excavations began under the Kingdom of Naples.

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Speaker 1: And once they started, they realized this wasn't just ruined.

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Speaker 2: No, it was a frozen city because of the ash.

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Everything was preserved exactly as it was. Bakeries with bread

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still in the ovens, braid was still there, carbonized. But yes,

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graffiti on the walls, political slogans, caverns.

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Speaker 1: It's the intimacy of it that gets me. Usually archaeology

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is about kings and temples. Pompeii is about life and death.

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Speaker 2: We have to mention the plaster casts, the ash hardened

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around the bodies of the victims. The bodies decomposed, leaving

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hollow voids. Archaeologists poured plaster into those voids and got

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perfect casts of the people in their final moments. Horrifying

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families huddled together, people shielding their faces to.

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Speaker 1: Ask about herculanium, specifically because it's different from Pompei. Right,

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Pompei was ash, but Herculaneum was.

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Speaker 2: Worse, much worse in a way. Pompei was buried by ashfall,

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which suffocated people. Herculaneum was hit by the pyroclastic flow,

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a superheated avalanche of gas and rock moving at one

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hundred miles an hour. The heat was so intense it

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vaporized soft tissue instantly. Recent studies on victims found in

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the boathouses of Herculaneum found something horrifying. Vitrified brain tissue vitrified.

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The heat turns their brains into glass. Good Lord, it's gruesome,

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but scientific. It tells us exactly how they died instantly.

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They didn't suffer like the people in Pompeii might have,

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but that heat also carbonized wood, food, and even scrolls,

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preserving them in a way that ash didn't.

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Speaker 1: A different kind of preservation aw much more violent one

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and finally we have perhaps the most famous discovery of

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them all, King Tut's Tomb nineteen twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Now you might say, wait, Howard hard was looking for this.

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Speaker 1: He was. He spent years searching, so it's not a

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pure accident, right.

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Speaker 2: But the actual find was an accident born of persistence.

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Explain that he was on the verge of giving up,

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his funding was running out. He was in the valley

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of the King's an area that had been dug up

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one hundred times. Everyone said it was empty.

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Speaker 1: So how did they find it?

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Speaker 2: They were clearing away rubble left by ancient.

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Speaker 1: Workers, ancient construction trash.

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Speaker 2: Essentially the huts of the workers who built the tomb

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of Rameses. The sixth had been built over the entrance

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to Tut's tomb.

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Speaker 1: So the later kings literally built on top of him,

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burying him deeper exactly.

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Speaker 2: The debris hid the tomb so well that grave robbers

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missed it for thousands of years. Carter's team, while clearing

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this rubble, found a stone step, and that step led.

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Speaker 1: To the only nearly intact royal tomb ever found in

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the valley.

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Speaker 2: It offered an unprecedented look at royal burial practices, the

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gold mask, the chariots, the shrines. It sparked egypnomania across

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the globe, and.

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Speaker 1: The irony is just chef's kick. The trash from ancient

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workers is what saved the king's treasure.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes being forgotten is the best way to be preserved.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so let's unpack this. We've got a lost goat,

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a thirsty farmer, a storm, a lost dog, and some

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ancient trash.

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Speaker 2: It really highlights how fragile our knowledge of history is.

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We think we know the story of humanity, but so

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much of it relies on these random, chaotic moments of discovery.

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Speaker 1: It makes you think, if we found all of this

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by accident, what are we currently walking over right now?

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Speaker 2: That is the provocative thought. What is sitting just one

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foot beneath the surface of a construction site in New

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York or London or Beijing or your own backyard.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for a shovel ah or a heavy rain or badger? Exactly? So,

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I have to ask you, and I want the listener

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to think about this too, which of these accidental discoveries

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shocked you the most?

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Speaker 2: For me, it has to be go Bickley Tepe. The

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idea that religion predates farming. That changes the fundamental understanding

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of human psychology and society. It rewrites the software of civilization.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. I'm stuck in the anti Keithra mechanism,

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the idea that they had that level of tech differential

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gears and then lost it right, It just feels so

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sci fi. It scares me a little. It reminds me

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that progress isn't a straight line. We can go backward.

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Speaker 2: It is humbling listeners.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. Which discovery blew your mind?

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Is it the complexity of the gears, the sheer scale

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of the terra Cotta army, or maybe the tragedy of Pompeii.

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Leave a comment if you can, or just annoy your

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friends with these facts at your next dinner party.

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Speaker 2: Please do. History is meant to be shared.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on thrilling threads. Keep your

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eyes on the ground. You never know what you might

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stumble over.

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Speaker 2: Until next time.